0:00You know when you're locked in, focused and fearless.
0:02Welcome to the WNBA. Your vision narrows. You can't look away.
0:05Every assist, every stop, every logo three. From beyond.
0:08Every did you see that moment. You bet. What records are going to be broken this season?
0:12All of it right here. Lock in. It's the WNBA on ESPN all season long.
0:16Damn, Cass looking for a fish number 30 today.
0:19And whoop, whoop, whoop, I got a big one!
0:21I got another big one! It's a... Oh, what kind of garbage is this?
0:25No one wants to... And who's calling me? I'm fishing right now.
0:28Fantasy Football? It's not Fantasy Football season. It's fishing season is what it is.
0:32Oh my gosh. It is Fantasy Football season and I am not prepared.
0:36What am I going to do? I gotta call all my friends.
0:39Field, are you ready for the Start of Fantasy Football season?
0:42Field Yates data initializing. Projections processed. Rankings in place.
0:44Key matchups located. Draft strategy prepared. Hot takes determined.
0:47Field Yates data complete. I'm ready. Wow, AI field is super locked in already.
0:51All right, I'll call Mike. Mike will know what to do.
0:54Daniel Dopp. More like Daniel. Stop calling me. Hello?
0:56On vacation for the first week of the year.
0:58Of course Mike's on vacation. I'll call Liz. Liz always knows what to do.
1:02Liz, are you ready for the start of the football season?
1:05Hey, Daniel. Um, yes. I have been recording Facts vs.
1:08Feelings for weeks. I am so ready. Are you?
1:10Huh. I am on Facts vs. Feelings every week.
1:13I gotta get ready for the start of the season, though.
1:16It's go time. Ah. Da. Da. Da. Greatest running back of all time.
1:19I'm sure we're ready for the start of the season.
1:22Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football. Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football.
1:25Welcome into Fantasy Focus Football. Field fiddles with fiddlesticks.
1:27Field fiddles with fiddlesticks. Rubby baby bunker. Rubby rubber.
1:29Field fiddles with fiddlesticks. That one works. You can do this, Daniel.
1:33You are ready for the start of the season.
1:35You are prepared. You are good to go. You are the third prettiest person on Fantasy Focus Football after Liz and Field Jake's.
1:41We can do this. It's the start of the season.
1:44You and the 06010 Focus. Friends, welcome into Fantasy Focus Football.
1:47Excited to be back. A little bit of cold open action there.
1:50That was incredible. That was fun, guys. Thank you for leaving in.
1:53Starting the season with an absolute banger. It was a good time.
1:57We always knew that Field was memeable, though. That's terrific.
1:59AI Field, 100%. Oh my goodness. Already locked in, Liz.
2:02You and I have been doing Facts vs. Feelings for a minute.
2:05That is true, actually. So we're ready to kick off Fantasy Focus here, though.
2:09Super pumped. I'm so happy to see your guys' faces.
2:12It has been a minute since I've seen you guys.
2:15Listen, we got a lot of stuff we're going to talk about.
2:18We're going to dive into a bunch of really fun football today.
2:21The biggest storylines of the offseason. We're going to give you a bunch of logistics.
2:25But first, if you guys will just indulge me, I haven't seen you two beautiful people in a minute.
2:30Yeah. Like what happened during your offseason? Give me like two or three things that happened in your life.
2:35Let's see. You know what? We went to Hartford-Yargoats game.
2:38Stop it. You're burying the lead. Did they win?
2:41They did, yeah. I watched several seasons of Love Island.
2:43Okay. Oh, no. I had a kid again. I just cannot stop having children.
2:47Congratulations. Three girls. So yes, a little over a month ago, a month and a day ago, I became a father of
2:53my third daughter, Tatum, who has been absolutely awesome.
2:55It's been the wildest month of our life, for sure.
2:58The jump from two to three is real. If there are parents out there that have three or more children, shout out to you.
3:05It is an absolutely insane adjustment, but we're having a great time.
3:08It's great to be back here on Fantasy Focus.
3:10We've had a very, very fulfilling month. Soup, she's adorable.
3:13I love that. And I will be, I just want to announce, I will be working until I'm 94.
3:18I now have three daughters between weddings, wardrobes, Barbies.
3:20Don't get me started on college. I'm hoping for either a scholarship or like, I don't know.
3:25There's got to be some sort of other solution.
3:28So like we knew obviously that Field and Chapin had welcomed Tatum.
3:31And one of my favorite pictures that you sent was you holding the car seat, like the car seat that locks in.
3:37Casually, he's got this, like a little bit of a tricep showing too in the back.
3:41Not letting yourself go. I mean, obviously, because you've got your third kid.
3:45Yeah, I mean, I don't have a choice. I actually just stay in shape by carrying children at all times.
3:50That's fair. Because the irony is that my four and a half year old, who's, I mean, she now is a runner.
3:56Like we go on runs together. So she's like, that's capable mobility wise.
3:59But she always is like, can you carry me, dad?
4:02I'm like, why? She's like, because you carried the baby.
4:05So we're dealing with all that stuff here. But it's been an awesome month.
4:09So happy to be back, though, guys. And we do go like every day now.
4:13Yes. Until basically the end of time. Until the end of time.
4:16Yeah, we got a lot of that. Nice of Liz to actually show up for work.
4:20Mike Clay is currently, do we think it's on a beach?
4:23He's on an island. Yeah, on an island, on a beach.
4:26Liz, you did your island vacation appropriately earlier in the offseason.
4:29So we appreciate that, that you're here. But tell me about your offseason.
4:33What have you done? Um, it's been awesome. Well, I went to Vegas for the Scott Fish Bowl live, which is an incredible experience.
4:39And then the family and I flew to Seattle to take in a World Cup game.
4:43My son's birthday present. He's very into soccer. He plays on his school's team.
4:47Teenage son. He turned 13. What? It was a very, oh, there we go.
4:51Look at that. That's something. Yes. Me and my glasses and no makeup on.
4:55Thank you very much. Social team. Eating clams and wine.
4:57Also not showing me the picture of us in Hawaii, where I look fantastic and tan, um, took the kids on a snorkel adventure.
5:04We did a zip. There we go. Oh, look at it.
5:07A zip lining adventure. My little one, my nine-year-old did nine zip lines, two of which were half a mile long.
5:13She was the first one to jump. I was so proud.
5:16And then we, we, uh, paddled around a waterfall, but it was mostly the big one and the little one and me in the middle on the paddleboard.
5:23Also working my triceps so that we could fall out and fall down the waterfall.
5:27But yes, it was an awesome eventful. I love that.
5:30The perks of living in LA. Hawaii is not like for us right now.
5:34Hawaii is like the odyssey to get out. That's right.
5:36And my dad's from Hawaii. I would love to go back there with my family.
5:40And it's just like, yeah, good luck getting my kids on a trip.
5:44It takes less time for me to fly to Hawaii.
5:47That's fair. For me to fly to Connecticut. I'm just saying.
5:50So besides fishing, Daniel, what did you do this off-season?
5:52So first off, for what it's worth, I did take up fishing.
5:56And I want to give a big shout out to my buddy, Ray Scott at Yakety Yak Kayaks in Seaside Park, New
6:02Jersey, as well as my buddy, Ray, who works at Grumpy's Tackle.
6:05Ray, lifelong diehard Cowboys fan. The man bleeds that blue star.
6:08His two kids are actually named Troy and Emmett.
6:10Come on. After that, yeah. So huge diehard Cowboys fan.
6:13But big shout out to those two guys that hooked me up because I have been fishing a lot.
6:18I just did a whole... You guys know I don't always do social media super well.
6:22Yeah. I did a big disconnect. So I was just like, I want to go somewhere where I'm not doing stuff.
6:28Oh, you got off the grid? I got off the grid a little bit.
6:32So you stopped answering texts? Most of the time.
6:34Really new vibe. Really new thing for me. I also went on tour, which most of you guys know because I talked about it incessantly.
6:41But I went out with my buddies in the band Emory.
6:44Did a little over 4,000 miles. It was a ton of fun from Bloomington, Indiana to Jackson, Mississippi, all the way up
6:50to Quebec, all the way on the East Coast.
6:52Did a festival up there and back down. So it was a blast.
6:56Just a really great time. And now we're here.
6:58And now we're ready. We're back five days a week.
7:01Field, like you said, Monday through Friday, 10 a.m.
7:03Eastern time, 7 a.m. Liz Loza time in case you live over in the West Coast.
7:08You can find us a million different places, by the way.
7:11You ready for this? Live on the NFL on ESPN YouTube page.
7:14You can find us on the ESPN Fantasy app live.
7:17You can find us live on the ESPN app.
7:19We're also live on Facebook. You can find us everywhere that you listen to podcasts, Apple, Spotify, iHeart.
7:24Just you name it, we are there. And you can catch us on ESPN 2 every Wednesday this offseason, which is going
7:30to be really great being able to have those shows on E2.
7:33And then we'll get into a regular season cadence on E2 as well.
7:37So a lot of places to be able to catch us as you are coming back, getting ready for fantasy football season.
7:43And how about a big shout out to our buddy Eric Moody as well, who was in the chat.
7:48We love it. If you guys could hang out in our YouTube chat, ask a ton of questions.
7:53And with all the things going on, guys, it's important that we let you know live on August 20th in New York
7:59City, we are doing a live show. Let's go.
8:01It's going to be a ton of fun. Me, Liz, Field, and Mike Clay are going to be there.
8:06It is going to be a blast. Go to fantasyfocuslive.com for all of the details that you need.
8:11And honestly, last thing, we have a mock draft tomorrow.
8:14It's going to be a ton of fun. So a little bit of prep for that.
8:18Mock drafts are always a blast because I love being able to just hear your guys' thought process while you're making your decisions.
8:24But I think that's all the logistics. Got a bunch of this stuff out of the way.
8:29We're going to continue to have fun. We'll take some questions a little later on in the show.
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8:56Call 1-800-GRAINGER, clickgrainger.com, or just stop by. Let's dive into the 10 biggest storylines of the off-season field jates.
9:01It's kind of tough to narrow it down just to 10 different things that happened.
9:05We did our best, though. We did our best.
9:07And we're going to start with the one that took a while to actually get done.
9:11But AJ Brown is officially a patron. I want to apologize to those that are watching the show right now.
9:17If you see me staring at my phone right here throughout the show, there's a reason why.
9:21Is that we are in the same studio as last year.
9:24We have new microphones. These are on sort of wheelies.
9:27And I had a cup of tea. I'm trying to, in my three-kid world, trying to keep my caffeine intake steady, but not drink too much coffee.
9:34Okay. Had a cup of tea. Immediately nailed it.
9:37Knocked it over. Complete moron move. Thankfully, we cleaned it up.
9:40It was literally a group effort. Yes. Like six minutes before the show.
9:43So I have no more paper notes. Those got washed out.
9:46But I do have my phone. And then five minutes before the show, Liz spilled her drink immediately after you did.
9:52You didn't throw her under the bus? You're season for all of them.
9:56All right. We're talking high. All right. AJ Brown, officially a Patriot.
9:59The deal got done after June 1st for salary cap reasons.
10:02The Eagles got nothing for this year back. There's no player going back.
10:05There was no draft pick in the 2026 draft.
10:08It is a first-round pick in 2028, plus a 2027 fifth-round pick.
10:11Sort of a salary dump. Philly feels like they can get better.
10:14Let's talk about the A.J. Brown side of it, guys, though.
10:17But the Patriots and their offensive coordinator, Josh McDaniels, has already said that AJ Brown's closest comparison that he can kind of
10:23come up with was Gronk, who, of course, was a tight end.
10:26AJ Brown gives the Patriots their best receiver, I think at least physically most talented receiver since Randy Moss.
10:31Yes. They haven't had a great run of receivers since then, but they've had guys like Julian Edelman who are very different body types.
10:38But AJ Brown, one of the best deep threats in the NFL.
10:41There's a trivia here. I was sort of stunned by this number.
10:44What do you think the average length of AJ Brown's touchdown catches is in his career?
10:49I'm going to say 14.5 yards. Oh, I was going to say 18.7.
10:52Okay, both of you not quite there. 26.5. 26?
10:55I was wondering if it was over 20, because we know that he is consistently hitting those marks over 20 yards.
11:00Amongst the best deep threats in the NFL, Drake May led the NFL in deep completion percentage last year.
11:06One of the best deep ball throwers, not just in the NFL now, but over the past call a decade or so.
11:11He had seven games last year with a 30 plus yard touchdown pass.
11:15The upgrade from Kayshaun Booty and Kyle Williams to AJ Brown is that deep threat for the Patriots is real.
11:20They paid a big price for him. He's the most talented receiver they have on the team.
11:25Drake May is a stud. AJ Brown checks in his wide receiver 10 for me.
11:29I think that's about right. I think I have him ranked similarly.
11:32I love the, as you're pointing out, the marriage of skill sets between this receiver and this quarterback for the exact reasons you pointed out.
11:39Also 102 targets vacated with Stefan Diggs no longer on the field.
11:42And remember, Diggs was working back from that ACL injury.
11:45So his snaps were being managed. So there should be more volume there, especially when accounting for the addition of Romeo Dobbs as well.
11:51I am a little bit curious about this Kayshaun Booty hype in camp.
11:55It wasn't Kyle Williams. He hasn't been making the noise that we thought maybe it was.
11:59And there were certainly some trade rumors buzzing around Booty, but he seems to be showing out at camp.
12:04I'm not saying obviously that he's going to be a draftable option, but just someone to maybe listen for a drumbeat on as we progress.
12:11But as far as AJ Brown, wide receiver 10 for me as well.
12:15I've got him at wide receiver eight. And I love everything that you guys just mentioned because marrying Drake May's deep ball
12:21ability with the skill set that AJ Brown has just feels like a match made in heaven for this offense.
12:26So I think we're in a really great spot there.
12:29How about the Eagles? Like, are you optimistic now?
12:31Like, is Devontae Smith ready for prime time? This was the Heisman Trophy winner.
12:35First round pick. I don't think he's not ready for prime time field, but I also don't think that he's going to
12:41vault into that, like wide receiver 12, low end wide receiver one status.
12:44He's still in that Eagles offense, right? Yeah. They add Mekhi Lemon in the draft.
12:48We can talk about him and all the things, you know, why they decided to bring him in.
12:53When they made that move, it was the writing on the wall.
12:57We all knew that AJ Brown was gone as soon as they drafted Mekhi Lemon, right?
13:01But I do feel like with Devontae Smith, I've got him right in the middle, probably like wide receiver 16.
13:06And I think that's fairly like where I'm going to see him more often than not.
13:11He will be the guy in this offense. I'm not that worried, even though they added Dontavian Wicks also in the offseason
13:17and they added Eli Stowers eventually to take over for that Dallas gutter.
13:20They've got some pass catchers there, but I still feel like Devontae Smith is kind of where he was, to be honest, even before AJ Brown got traded.
13:28He was in that wide receiver 15 to 20 to 25 range week in and week out.
13:32I don't think that really changes. Any thoughts, Liz?
13:35Wide receiver 15 range. I'm worried about the skill set of, I don't believe that Devontae Smith has a traditional alpha skill set.
13:41I do think he'll see 120 targets. And I think he benefited, frankly, from AJ Brown on the opposite side of the field to work as a compliment.
13:48Nick Sirianni said himself that in order to replace the 100 plus targets that AJ Brown left, he was going to have to use everyone.
13:55Regardless, I do think Smith will lead the way.
13:58I'm just not sure he's going to be this top automatic.
14:01It's not going to be a copy and paste situation.
14:03He's not going to automatically replace what AJ Brown did.
14:06They're very different players in terms of skill sets.
14:08But again, I think probably 120 targets. Yeah, I think I'm in the same range as you guys.
14:13So a strong wide receiver too. And the reason why I'm not in like the top 10 range from Devontae Smith, which
14:19I think is a not unreasonable thing for someone to want to leap to is, if you look at the guys inside
14:25my top 10 rankings for wide receivers, I would say other than Rashi Rice, who I think kind of makes his way
14:31into the top 10 in part because of the circumstance.
14:34Like I don't think Rashi Rice is some premier wide receiver talent.
14:37He just absolutely soaks up targets. We're going to talk about him in just a minute.
14:41Yeah, we will. Devontae Smith is like a cut below an AJ Brown, a Drake London, Justin Jefferson, of course.
14:47I'm on Ross St. Brown. These guys that are just supernova wide receiver talent.
14:51So Devontae Smith a little bit lower. Plus guys like question marks about Jalen Hurts.
14:55He stunk. Last season is the thrower stunk. Now, optimism because of this new offensive system, which does seem like it's going
15:01to feature more of a rhythm and timing passing game, but not enough for me to push Devontae Smith into the top 12 of my wide receivers.
15:08I'm with you on that. All right, let's move ahead and talk about kind of you alluded to it, the Kansas City Chiefs.
15:14Big news here is Ken Walker III coming over to this offense.
15:17And there's some things with KW3. Liz and I talked about this on Facts vs.
15:21Feelings last week. The good news with Ken Walker III last year, 1,300 yards from scrimmage most of his career.
15:27Played 17 games. That's the first time that's happened.
15:29We love being able to see that, but he was only running back 22, in part because Zach Charbonnet just stole all
15:35the goal line work, scored all the touchdowns in that offense.
15:38But we saw how good he was in the playoffs.
15:41We saw that Super Bowl run. And now that he's going to be the lead guy in this Kansas City offense field,
15:47there's a lot of different moving parts here because you got the Mahomes returning from injury.
15:51You got the wide receivers that we've been talking about.
15:54Travis Kelsey is another year older. When you look at Ken Walker III, how high is too high when you're looking at
16:00ranking this guy being what this offense could be?
16:02I think if you put him RB8, that would be too high.
16:05But Adam is RB9. Okay. RB9 for me is Ken Walker III.
16:09So there are a lot of things working in this field.
16:12True RB1 though. Yeah. I mean, he got a big contract.
16:15He's a very talented player. It always felt like Seattle was not ready to fully embrace Kenneth Walker III because there are
16:21elements of his game that I think will, could drive a running backs coach or even offensive coordinator a little bit bonkers.
16:27One thing that Ken is very focused on and this has been one of his great strengths and perhaps a limitation is
16:32he always wants to hit a home run, right?
16:35Like he's like a baseball player. It's like he either smash it out of the park or strikes out.
16:40Yep. Has a four yard opportunity, bounces it outside, turns it into a one yard opportunity, right?
16:45The Chiefs are desperate for home runs right now.
16:47The Chiefs had one running back rush. One of 20 yards last year.
16:5120 yards. Like that's not that far in the NFL.
16:53And they had one run from a running back last year of 20 plus yards.
16:57So they had one of the most explosive backs in the NFL.
17:01And I was an Abbott Johnson fan. It's their fifth round pick out of Nebraska, but not enough that I'm sitting there
17:07going to myself like, wait, Kenneth Walker III got this money.
17:09He doesn't have to share carries. Like, no, he's got a clear path to, I always have to do the math now because it's a 17 game season.
17:17Like you could easily push 250, 260 carries for Kenneth Walker III.
17:20Yeah. Fully capable as a pass catcher as well.
17:23I think 40 to 50 catches in range. I think he's an RB1.
17:26I'm on the lower end of that because last year was the first time he actually managed a full 17 game slate.
17:32So it was a little bit of a durability concern there.
17:35Fair. But I agree with you that the thing that he does the best is explosive play.
17:40I think he was the RB3 in breakaway runs and the RB6 in evaded tackles last year.
17:44And as you mentioned, the Chiefs were desperate to invigorate this otherwise listless running game.
17:48And by extension, his presence takes some pressure off of Mahomes, especially coming off of the knee injury.
17:53So there should be less scrambling. We like that.
17:56It opens up the middle of the field for Travis Kelsey, probably in his last season.
18:00And also, I think as it pertains to Rashe Rice, there's some play action opportunities that he could benefit from as well
18:06with defenders keying in on KW3 as well. So holistically, I like it for KW3.
18:10High end RB2 for me. Yeah. And I like it for the pass catchers because if, I mean, just like any other
18:16football team, if you have a better running game, it's going to make it easier for your pass catching across the board, period.
18:22And with Patrick Mahomes coming back from that ACL injury, Fields, you had started to talk about Rashe Rice.
18:27He's a, I think he's an easy top five wide receiver when he's healthy and on the field.
18:32The problem is he's had some concerns off the field.
18:35Dude was in jail this off season recovering from knee surgery.
18:38Yes. So there's definitely, there's red flags, not just yellow flags, there's red flags.
18:42When the guy's out there, he's one of the best wide receivers in fantasy football.
18:46Do you feel like he's one of those guys that you would want to try to stay away from in drafts?
18:51Are you like, you know what? He's still a good value to me.
18:55I like what, I like his skill set. I like what he does.
18:58I've been drafting him as normal so far. Okay.
19:01On Saturday, we did the back together football weekend show and Shefty was on there and he was talking about how like,
19:07he did not in his response to questions about Rashe Rice's availability make it seem like he is anticipating punishment sometime soon.
19:13We will see until, you know, until the NFL has concluded its own investigation and said one way or the other we don't know.
19:19Last off season, we were bracing for some sort of punishment and we eventually got that significant punishment for Rashe Rice.
19:25To be clear, he's a greater risk than other wide receivers in the top 10 for not just, I don't think he's
19:31as talented as a Drake London or Malik Nabors but also like, the guy needs to put it together off the field as well.
19:37I have a point where you have enough off the field things where you're wondering is the next one going to be
19:43the one that costs me the fantasy manager how many games?
19:46He's got to make a choice like as an individual.
19:49If he stays healthy and stays behaved, he's got a chance to make 30 plus million dollars per year.
19:54If he doesn't, then he might be out of the league in two seasons.
19:58That's the choice that he has to make. I think the Chiefs side is fairly straightforward on the running back front.
20:03I'm not totally certain what to do with Jadarian Price yet, Daniel.
20:07I want to hear your thoughts on how high you guys are or maybe not.
20:11I got thoughts. So I would love to give you my thoughts.
20:14I'd love for Liz to go first but I want to hear from you because you did first draft with Mel and Greeny obviously the entire time.
20:21So when you're looking at Jadarian Price coming out of the draft, what can you tell us in case we didn't watch enough college football?
20:28So I mean, it's tough to like, it's tough when the other running back is Jeremiah Love.
20:33He was a true backup running back for Notre Dame.
20:35He was also a kick return maven for Notre Dame.
20:38He did not handle much work. He had one game with 15 carries in his career.
20:4215. He never had more than 15 carries in his career.
20:45So he had the fresh leg benefit. He had the benefit of, you know, defenses are keying in on him much differently than were Jeremiah Love.
20:52In college football, as we know, you're seeing great variants week in and week out in terms of competition.
20:58He's an excellent peer runner. Like he is a fun guy to watch.
21:01He's powerful. He's strong. He is fast as all get up.
21:04The pre-draft process is really good to him. There's a little bit of a chicken versus egg situation though with him as a pass catcher.
21:11Six catches last year for Jadarian Price. Six. Six.
21:13Total. That's like a game for Jeremiah Love. Now the question is, is that because Jadarian Price isn't capable of catching the football effectively?
21:20Or is it because, oh yeah, if we're going to throw the ball to a running back, we're going to throw it
21:26to the guy who went third overall in the draft.
21:28Right. So I have him as RB25 on Jadarian Price.
21:31But that's sort of a pass catcher plus a little bit of accounting for eventually Zach Charbonnet being in the mix and
21:37maybe Emmanuel Wilson being good enough to take a little bit of work out of the way early.
21:42Are you guys more optimistic? I am more optimistic.
21:44I don't think he's just a passive option when compared to Jeremiah Love.
21:48I do understand and we also have to recognize that this year's draft class was pretty weak at the position in terms of overall talent.
21:55So all of that being said, Price did score on a higher percentage of his carries in 2025 than Love behind the same offensive line.
22:01And you did mention the Zach Charbonnet situation. His timeline from his recovery timeline does make Price a little bit tricky because
22:07we're not quite sure the volume that he's going to receive.
22:10But also, he's on an offense that managed to win the Super Bowl with the third highest rushing rate.
22:15Why would they change that? Right? So Price is going to get his.
22:19I do like him as a low-end RB, too.
22:21And he's great value where he's going in a draft, by the way, a fantasy draft, by the way, where the position dries up so quickly.
22:28Who is it ever? I'm with you. I'm with Liz and I'm even higher on Price than Liz is.
22:33I've got him as running back 19 inside my top 20.
22:36A part of that is the idea that the guys behind him I'm not worried about.
22:41I'm not seeing you mentioned Emmanuel Wilson, George Alani, like those guys just don't scare me from that perspective.
22:46And you look at what the Seattle running backs have done.
22:49Ken Walker III was a top 20 running back for two of the last three years was Zach Charbonnet.
22:54Wasn't last year because Charbonnet stole all of those touchdowns.
22:57But now we're going to have half of a season without Zach Charbonnet.
23:00And I'm using half of a season as air quotes.
23:03We're not sure how much time he's going to miss.
23:06Are you pointing out the difference between return to sport versus return to Yes, even once he comes back he's going to
23:12have to be able to return to that performance level.
23:14So there's a rush that needs to occur. So like, yes, there is a chance that like down the stretch I think
23:20Jadarian Price could maybe lose a little bit of value while Zach Charbonnet ramps back up.
23:25But beginning of the season, middle of the season, I think there's enough value that he's going to deliver RB2 numbers and
23:30I've got him inside my top 20 because of that.
23:33Can I follow up on that just strategically speaking?
23:36Because I feel like the quick narrative is to say that Price is going to be a sell high guy, right?
23:41Like you can hear every fantasy analyst saying well you're just going to have to sell you have to figure out before Zach Charbonnet comes back.
23:48Figure it out. But if everybody knows that how effective is that strategy?
23:52Great question. Probably not very effective. And I honestly, with where this kid landed and the way that Seattle wants to run
23:58the football with how often they ran the football last year and they don't have Zach Charbonnet to do it with, it's
24:04going to be Jadarian Price and two dudes. And I say that more disparagingly than I mean.
24:08But like it's just average guys. Two guys. I'm in.
24:11Yeah, I don't. Dudes is more of a positive term.
24:14Dudes feels like yes. Just two guys. You're right.
24:16But I am in on Jadarian Price because of that.
24:19So I'm interested to see. You've got him as running back 25.
24:2225. Yeah, 25. And by the way, it's not all that different.
24:25But you know, I think we're all on the RB2, depending on how your draft falls and the number of people in your league RB3 flex area.
24:33So we do, by the way, we have rankings throughout the rest of the week.
24:37We're going to talk about why I think tiers are valuable.
24:40I have my tiers dropping. And another thing that I think we're going to try to key in on more during the
24:46preseason is not just ranking players by position, but also giving you context on like the next player that we're going to
24:52talk about feels low in his positional rankings. For me, I'm sure people will be like that.
24:56That is way lower than most of your colleagues.
24:59That's correct. But relative to all other positions, it's still high enough that I can reinforce that I believe in the talent.
25:05So we're going to talk about not just where he fits amongst running backs, but where like if you're doing a Brock
25:10Bowers versus Justin Jefferson conversation, like that's a really important one.
25:13If you're at the back end of the first round or you're at the beginning of the second round, like you're not getting Brock Bowers.
25:20If you don't take him at pick, if you're in a 12 team, if you don't take him at 13, you're not
25:26getting Brock Bowers at the end of the third round.
25:29These are important conversations for us to have that we will vet out over the next five weeks.
25:34Well, we just dove into Jadarian Price after that.
25:36Let's talk about the other rookie running back that everyone's more excited about field.
25:40I was a little bit confused from, and we're not a football show.
25:43We're a fantasy show. I was a little confused from a football perspective, but I do want to know Jeremiah Love, what
25:49made him the number three overall pick by the Arizona Cardinals?
25:52What is it that he brings to the table?
25:55Everything. There's really no hole in his game. He is like Bijan Robinson.
25:58We've had a couple of running backs in recent years that were categorized as like sort of can't miss top end prospects for their position.
26:05Beachon and also Ashton Gentry. Jameer Gibbs has emerged as that, but Jameer was not being regarded in that same light when
26:11he came out of Alabama just a few years ago.
26:14Jeremiah Love, think of him like Beachon Robinson and more like Beachon Robinson than Ashton Gentry.
26:18I think Ashton Gentry can get to huge fantasy heights.
26:21I think it's more down like Gentry if he becomes a top five running back is more in the Jonathan Taylor model
26:27where it's like absolutely slay as a rusher and maybe add 30 to 40 catches.
26:31He's both Jonathan Taylor and Ashton Gentry are capable pass catchers.
26:34Their best value was just dominating as a runner.
26:36Jeremiah Love can be like Beachon in which he rushes for a thousand plus yards but also snags 75 catches.
26:42I just have questions about how quickly it's going to happen in Arizona because have you guys seen this team?
26:47Yes. This team is, I want to say they're over DraftKings Sportsbook favorites, I'm sorry, underdogs in every game but one this upcoming year.
26:53I believe the projected win total is three and a half.
26:56Okay, so it's lowest in the NFL like people are already jersey swapping Dante Moore into Arizona uniforms for next year like
27:02it's going to be a bad year. The offensive line is fine.
27:06It's not, I mean it's fine at best. I'm not like super optimistic about the offensive line.
27:10I don't think that this offense is going to be scoring a ton of touchdowns other than maybe in garbage time.
27:16And there are some good numbers to support top 10 running backs in their rookie seasons.
27:20Over the past 15 years you've seen top 10 rookie running backs top 10 picks average 17.4 fantasy points per game.
27:26There have been some useful ones for sure like Saquon was unbelievable as a rookie.
27:30We've also seen a lot of just like pretty solid guys like examples Ashton Gentry RB15 last year on a points per game basis.
27:36Bijan RB17 as a rookie. Christian McCaffrey RB13 as a rookie.
27:39So we've seen guys that have similar skill sets to him Bijan and CMC those are like models for Jeremiah Love have just kind of average rookie seasons.
27:47I have him as RB14 I have him as the 25th player overall.
27:50So I still think he is deserving of being a top three round pick and he'll be going much earlier than 25th overall.
27:57I'm just concerned about this being a hot mess offense.
27:59Yeah. I do think it's going to be a hot mess offense but I also think that because of his formats he
28:05can perform he's my RB10 and it's interesting that you say like these are average performances.
28:10Ashton Gentty yes 14 fantasy points per game is an average performance also in the top 11 players at the position by the end of the season.
28:17The last nine running backs drafted in the top 12 of the NFL draft all finished top 12 in fantasy points as a rookie.
28:23So 12 team league you finish 12 that's an RB1 especially with the disparity at the position right now.
28:29So RB10 for me PPR friendly format. I love it.
28:31Also I love that you mentioned the skill set 40 scrimmage touchdowns over his last two collegiate ridiculous incredible.
28:36The one thing that does give me maybe a little bit of hope about this offense is that Jacoby Brissett has shown
28:42garbage time like he's a garbage time king. Right.
28:45So he might be too much of one like they might have to play Carson Beck.
28:49Well that's a possibility. That's if you're in garbage and new head coach Michael floor obviously also record number of head coaching vacancies.
28:55Lots of changes in that. Last thing I want to mention is I should have mentioned this much sooner is like they
29:01began their offseason signing Tyler Algier to a two year 13 million dollar contract.
29:05Yes. Buzzing camp as well. And you know I don't put too much stock into preseason depth charts.
29:10They're going to always put rookies low but like I don't think Tyler Algier is going to just collect dust all year.
29:16If they're on the goal line I think there's a really good chance that Tyler Algier is going to get first crack.
29:22James Connor for now is still on the roster.
29:24We'll see how that and Trey Benson's future shakes out.
29:27But it's not like Jeremiah Love part of the thought process behind Ashton Gentile last year which to be clear we were
29:33too optimistic on Ashton Gentile was like that running back room stinks.
29:36It's awful. Jeremiah Love goes into a solid running back room like I mean it's a decent running back room at least.
29:42So I have some questions about the overall utilization.
29:44I have some questions about the offense but I love the player so I do have him as a top 25 player on the overall board.
29:51All right. We had a coaching change and offensive coordinator change actually in Los Angeles with the Chargers.
29:56Mike McDaniel comes over a couple layers here that we can talk about with this one and I want to start with
30:02Omari and Hampton because I think he's going to be the highest drafted Charger here.
30:06That hype train is rolling. It feels like right now earlier this offseason he was in the running back 12 to 13 range for a lot of us.
30:14Now he has moved up for a lot of ESPN rankers inside the top 10 and I am curious Liz Loza I
30:20want to start with you when you look at Omari in Hampton.
30:23Has the hype train gone too far or are you in on him being an RB1 for fantasy squads this year?
30:29I do have him ranked as an RB1. We look at the offensive line both Joe Alt and Rashawn Slater cleared for practice back in the game.
30:36O-line is healthy. Also obviously you mentioned McDaniel like all McDaniel is fascinating to me because he is as innovative a play
30:42caller and as creative a run game genius as he is awkward public speaker.
30:46So those things can live at the same all the things can be true at the same time.
30:51But we also have the the addition of blocking tight end Charlie Kohler coming over.
30:55I believe now he's the highest paid blocking tight end in NFL history.
30:58So there is some clear indication of how he's going to be used though especially with that sort of investment.
31:04All of those things lead me to believe that Hampton who last year coming out reminded me a lot of David Montgomery
31:10in terms of a skill set could really perform when all of the pieces come together and he's you know hopefully going
31:16to stay healthy unlike last year when he was hampered by that ankle issue.
31:19Yeah I feel like negative Nancy. I have him as RB 13 so a little bit lower than Liz.
31:24There's one thing that I keep coming back to with Amari and Hampton.
31:28One thing. Two years and 10 million dollars might have been 12 for Keaton Mitchell.
31:32That's I knew you were going to say that.
31:34This is like one of those signings I just can't let go of and Mike McDaniel teams are so good about behind
31:40the scenes content now and Mike McDaniel has made it it's been made very clear like the reason why Keaton Mitchell is
31:46a charger is because Mike McDaniel wanted him. What does Mike McDaniel love more than anything in a player?
31:51Speed. Keaton Mitchell flat out flies. Hampton really can run too for a guy of his stature who's a 4-4-4 guy at 220 pounds.
31:58He's a beast but Keaton Mitchell is like different level of speed.
32:01That's I can't quite get that out of my cross.
32:04That's why I'm a little bit lower on Amari.
32:06Running back 13 there. Running back 13. The player I'm most excited about in this offense.
32:11Hold on. Okay. No. Because I have him as a Wow.
32:14Whoa. Hold your horses. Let's go. I love it.
32:16I got Amari and Hampton all the way up at RB5.
32:19Five of his nine games as a rookie has healthy games.
32:22He was a top 20 running back. Three of those games.
32:25He was a top 10 running back. So in a third of his games as a rookie, he was a top 10 running back.
32:31Tasty. Showed incredible pass catching ability which is something that I really like as well.
32:35Four of his games. He had five or more catches which is great.
32:39Tons of ability within that pass catching ability and you bring in Mike McDaniel and you give me all that goal line
32:45work and I think this offense takes another step.
32:47I get Keaton Mitchell. I look at it though as a team mismanaging their salary cap.
32:52Then I'm worried about it being a Overspending in Los Angeles?
32:55Never. I think that's the way that I look at it.
32:58So I am all in. I am very high on Amari and Hampton have him as RB5 right now.
33:03I freaking love that. By the way, you have to sign a contract for at least five million dollars to afford a one bedroom in Los Angeles.
33:10So that's the actual reason why there's a lot of other parts.
33:13Liz can speak to that much more than I can.
33:16That's true. Yeah. Liz is renting out her second house for a little under two and a half million a year.
33:22So false. No, I'm not renting out anything. Do you think I know how to clean a gutter like be a project manager?
33:28I try that. Can you see me on a ladder like fixing things?
33:31I tried that this offseason. OK. Let's just say DIY not my strength.
33:35A lot of other pieces though. Justin Herbert, Lad McConkie, Quinton Johnston.
33:38How are you approaching this Chargers offense? No Keenan Allen.
33:41Yeah. We'll see if that, you know, that could see a classic like end of training.
33:45Late signing. I'm back. I'm still sorting through the wide receivers.
33:48Lad McConkie, clearly the number one amongst the guys were ranked right now.
33:52But again, the player that I'm most excited about is Justin Herbert.
33:55Tua Tungavailoa has become radioactive. He is in a battle to win the, I think he will win, but he's in a
34:01battle to become the Falcon starting quarterback. He was not good.
34:04The Dolphins took on the largest cap hit of dead money ever in the lead to get rid of him.
34:09And he's still in a battle. He was freaking awesome for a couple of years there for Fantasy Purple.
34:14He led the NFL in passing yards than Tua for a full season.
34:18He had a lot of highs there with Mike McDaniel.
34:21Justin Herbert is a better thrower than Tua. He's a far better runner than Tua.
34:25And I think that the supporting cast is not as good, but the offensive coordinator is good enough that I've got Justin
34:31Herbert all the way up as quarterback six. He's an excellent runner.
34:34I had seven games last year in which Justin Herbert threw for at least 225 passing yards and ran for 30 or more yards.
34:40Now, some of that's scrambling, but still it's a tool he's got at his disposal.
34:44I've got Herbert way up there as quarterback six ahead of the likes of Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, Jackson Dart.
34:50So optimistic on Herbo this year. I love that.
34:52That must be value also in ADP. Yeah, the ADP draft that if you've got him at six, you could wait and get like target him.
34:59Round. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about him a bunch too.
35:02I do want to mention something about Lad McConkie really quickly if we can.
35:06Bring it. Only because I'm sure that we all get asked all the time, like who is this year's JSN going to be?
35:12Yep. Right? And I am not all because that was last year's surprise.
35:15So who's it going to be this year? Now, I don't think every year, obviously we know, can't copy and paste.
35:21But if you look at the circumstances that allowed for JSN's breakout, third year player, that gone, new play caller, heavily targeted
35:27since his rookie season, all of those apply to Lad McConkie as well.
35:31So I do think he is an interesting breakout.
35:33And because he kind of slumped in his sophomore effort, there's a value, there's a discount that you can get to him.
35:39So if you feel like throwing a dart, and it sounds like we're all high on the Chargers heading into this season
35:45because of the offensive line, because of the offensive coordinator changes.
35:48I definitely would like a piece of this offense if I can get it.
35:52One we want to invest in that still is being discounted maybe outside of Hampton because of last year's slump.
35:57Yeah. All right, let's move and talk about DJ Moore being traded to the Bills.
36:01Chicago's offense is now adjusting, Liz. It looks like we got that trio, that Roma Dunze, Colston Loveland and Luther Burden trio.
36:07As our resident Bears fan, can you just help us kind of like decipher what it is that we should be doing with these pass catchers in fantasy?
36:15Well, you can decide if you want proven talent and a traditional alpha with Rome or a potential wildly efficient breakout candidate
36:21in Luther or scrap that and just invest in the tight end.
36:24Colston Loveland out of Bliss, Idaho. I love this kid.
36:27I think I have him as I think my tight end three on the season.
36:31That is the place that I'm going. Now, you're going to have to pay up.
36:35If you don't want to draft a tight end early, then he's not for you because he's going around the fourth round.
36:41Sure. So, Liz, good call there. I was going to say the headline is DJ Moore gets traded to the Buffalo.
36:46We'll talk about the Buffalo side in a minute, but my biggest takeaway I think there's more takeaways for Chicago than yeah.
36:52Yes. Colston Love is my guy this year. He's the one I'm walking away with the most in drafts right really now he's at tight end three.
36:59It's going to be hard to crack that top two tight ends Brock Bowers and course, Jerry McBride playing a different game
37:05right now, but this is why overall rankings are so important.
37:08If you go to an ESPN doesn't have an average of every one of our rankers top 100 top 150, but if
37:14you just go look across the board and others Mike and I think Carabelle and Tristan have theirs up already Colston Love
37:20and way higher in mind than other people. I think I haven't like 34th overall right now.
37:25Wow. This guy's an absolute star. He looks like the next great tight end in the NFL.
37:29He was ridiculous for the Bears when he got the opportunities last year.
37:33This trade was a confidence boost to or maybe a confidence shout out to him and Colston and excuse me, Luther Byrd in the third and Roma Dunze.
37:41I've got both of those guys in my top 30 for wide receivers, but my headline is Colston Love.
37:46That's my headline here. I'm all in on that player.
37:48Also, if you cannot decide between the two wide receivers, you don't need to and you also don't have to invest in
37:54Love and I just want to say this in terms of strategizing for the draft over the past decade with the exception
38:00of Tyreek Hill, number one wide receivers who shared the field with tight ends averaging 15 or more fantasy points per game.
38:06All were pushed outside of the top 15 fantasy producers at the position.
38:10So basically it's hard to have an elite tight end and an elite wide receiver unless you're Travis Kelsey and Tyreek.
38:15Exactly. If you think that Loveland is going to be elite, these two wide receivers are not for you.
38:21That'd be discounted accordingly. On the bill side, DJ Moore is an interesting one.
38:24I think he's a really good player and he reunites with Joe Brady where he played probably his best football.
38:30I'm glad that you started this way because my question was basically, do you think he's a premier wide receiver still?
38:35I don't think he's a premier wide receiver. I also don't, like Buffalo, Joe Brady talks all the time about everybody's got to eat.
38:42I thought it was a really good return for Chicago.
38:45I thought a two for DJ Moore was surprising candidly.
38:47So I had DJ Moore as wide receiver 27.
38:50Josh Allen's going to get his as a runner.
38:52Yeah. James Cook led the NFL in rushing last year.
38:55He got a lot of guys in that offense.
38:57In some ways, trading a second round pick for a guy making $28 million a year is like, oh my gosh, could
39:03this be like, could he step into a Devante Smith type value?
39:06I'm not there yet. I still have him as wide receiver 27.
39:10I also think the trade was more for Josh Allen to give him a surefire vetted, reliable, go-to receiver that you could
39:16trust, especially downfield, which was something Buffalo didn't have.
39:18So if you look at it in terms of trying to capitalize on this generational talent that you have a quarterback in
39:24the Super Bowl window at your avail, just give him someone reliable.
39:27Yeah. Hopefully that will work out for everybody. He's pretty cheap right now if you want to go after DJ Moore.
39:33He's not considerably expensive based on his ADP. He'll draw 100 targets.
39:36Exactly. He's going to be the wide receiver one in that offense.
39:39But I do think that his days of being a low end wide receiver one, high end wide receiver two are behind him.
39:46It does feel like we're in a different spot.
39:48Agreed. All right. Before we move on, we want to take a couple of questions from chat.
39:53Shout out to our buddy Eric Moody. Make sure that you follow him at Eric and Moody.
39:57He's answering all our questions, hanging out with the people.
40:00This first one comes from Chris S. 6, 2, 7, 0.
40:03A lot of running back handcuffs this year. Any specific ones to keep an eye on?
40:07Feels like a lot of backfields are going to be splitting carries to start the season.
40:12Common on guy. Common on guy. It's field. I'm with you on that.
40:15Common on guy. I know he's currently dealing with some sort of soft tissue thing right now in training camp.
40:21Not worried about it at all. Every, every couple of years we have sort of a backup running back just overtake the
40:26starter during the middle of the season. The starter is not a bad player.
40:30It's the backup is just that good. Common on guy.
40:33That's my name. My favorite, my favorite running back.
40:35Ben Johnson. All he pipped him once. That's right.
40:38That's right. I really like Kenneth Gainwell. Really late as a value pick in PPR friendly formats coming off of a career
40:44season replacing the Rashad Wright white role in Tampa Bay.
40:46Baker Mayfield loves to use the safety of Alv.
40:49I believe he targeted the running back position eight or nine, the eight or nine most times at for quarterbacks last season.
40:55So I think he's going to see a lot of volume there.
40:58And I would have picked both of those two running backs to be honest.
41:02I will say that and you can call me a homer here.
41:05I think that if anything were to happen, Jameer Gibbs, Isaiah Pacheco would become a low end startable running back in this Lions offense.
41:12I don't expect him to split time and be a David Montgomery the way that Demo was the last couple of years with Jameer.
41:18But if anything happens, heaven forbid, Jameer Gibbs has to miss time.
41:21I think Isaiah Pacheco is going to be a starting running back for those weeks.
41:25One more Blake Horm. I don't know if we can call him a handcuff anymore because I do think it's right.
41:31I'm with you, Liz. But I think that that's a RB2 in terms of second RB that is rising.
41:36All right. We got one more question here. This next one from our chat comes from Veronica Townsend.
41:41How about Patrick Mahomes? Are we going for him or staying away?
41:44Is it Mahomes or the field for week one?
41:47It seems like he's looking pretty good on recovery.
41:49I did see that Dan Graziano did a little sit down with Andy Reed, field jates, talked about Mahomes recovery, what their expectation is.
41:56Week one is not a guarantee, but that is what we're searching for.
41:59It's a guarantee. Let's think so. Okay. I think the NFL is putting Monday night football in Denver, Colorado with the Chiefs
42:05playing in the game if Mahomes is not expected to play.
42:08You don't think Justin Fields is going to bring the zhuzh for week one if he needs it?
42:13I believe Patrick Mahomes is, I've never, I don't know if you guys have heard this before, but like built different.
42:19Yeah. Oh, okay. Got it. Okay. Got it. I have a more gelatinous form myself, so I would say he is built different than him.
42:25So yeah, he's playing week one. Veronica, I have a little bit, I have him as quarterback eight, I believe, and that's
42:31so much less a reflection of Mahomes, the real player than it is the fantasy asset.
42:36The secret sauce for him last year was of course that he absolutely scrambled his life off.
42:40He ended up getting hurt on a scramble, by the way.
42:43Patrick Mahomes got hurt against the Broncos on a Thursday night football game many, many years ago.
42:48He ruptured his kneecap or dislocated his kneecap and it was on a quarterback sneak.
42:52He has not quarterback sneaked since. The Chiefs are going to be smart about Patrick Mahomes around this year.
42:57Now he can still throw the football very effectively.
42:59You can't totally reduce his rushing upside. He's going to just scramble naturally.
43:03I don't think he'll be running nearly as much, which is why he's quarterback eight for me.
43:07I am not out on Patrick Mahomes, but I'm not really targeting him in drafts unless it is one of those things
43:13where it's like he's on the board and I'm like, oh, this just feels like it's been too long and he should come off.
43:20I think there are at least some concerns with his return from injury.
43:23Another year for Travis Kelsey. When is that going to potentially not happen anymore?
43:27Xavier Worthy hasn't taken a step. What happens if he still doesn't pay off?
43:31What happens if Rasheed Rice gets into another situation and now he doesn't have all the guys like there is enough there
43:37that I can be concerned for it, but I still feel like Patrick Mahomes is Patrick freaking Mahomes.
43:42So like, you know, he could be a QB one, but I'm not targeting him in drafts.
43:46Yeah, I agree. I haven't QB 10. Here's the beauty.
43:49You don't have to Veronica draft Patrick Mahomes because the position is so sinking deep and as Field already said, Justin Herbert is available much later.
43:56So you don't need to waste that early round capital on the brand name if you don't want to.
44:01All right, let's keep it moving. We got a couple more topics we want to get to.
44:06Yeah, we're going to rip through this. Kyler Murray traded the Minnesota Vikings.
44:09We'll talk about Kyler in a second, but like where this really matters.
44:13I heard some dummy last year. I don't remember what next year was talking about how he was.
44:18What was the phrase? This quarterback quarterback agnostic. I heard someone say that ridiculous.
44:22It was Mike. That's what it was. Mike's gone.
44:24He's on a beach right now. We can blame him.
44:27Justin Jefferson had five straight top 10 seasons and then finished as wide receiver 30 last year.
44:31What are you thinking about him? We already have a discount because all those years he was coming off the board as
44:37wide receiver two, wide receiver three, maybe the number one wide receiver in the game.
44:41Now he's coming off the board right now looks like it's about wide receiver seven.
44:45We're back and I'll tell you why we're back.
44:48Okay. And this is not reporting. This is just me putting my logic hat out so don't aggregate this happens a lot
44:54more in the NBA than the NFL. If the Vikings do not get Justin Jefferson back on track this year, he's gone.
45:00Justin Jefferson will be saying trade me. Yeah. Okay.
45:02This is a guy who in his first six seasons has four with 1400 or more receiving yards.
45:07Last year he had two receiving touchdowns. Kyler Murray will get him on track and Kyler Murray's wearing the job by the way.
45:13Did you see Liz's face when you said that?
45:16I don't, I agree with you. This is the way it should be because you've they have chosen a quarterback to give
45:22homework to and this man don't like homework like of all the quarterbacks to choose you're going to give him a brand new playbook.
45:28This much on the line. I'm a little nerd.
45:30Okay. They have to get it right. They have to.
45:33Yes. We agree. Have to. Have to. Have to.
45:36Imagine having to get this right and Kyler Murray is the guy that you're like that guy.
45:40I mean JJ McCarthy is the other option so.
45:43Sure. Huge indictment on your first round pick to bring in a guy like Kyler Murray by the way.
45:48But I am in on Justin Jefferson. He is going to have a bounce back year.
45:52I'm telling you right now. Bounce back yes from wide receiver.
45:55Yes. To me he's he's the rare five for you.
45:58He's the rare. I think he's wide receiver five right now.
46:01Why is here four for me right now. I got to check that but good question.
46:05He is the very rare player going in the first like 10 or 12 picks who also could be a steal right.
46:11Like what you want like absolutely. Yeah. Like he's a steal like I guess I'm on rise for so he's five.
46:17We can't say that about most guys in the you know going 10th or 11th or 12th overall.
46:22Nope. But he could be the best player in fantasy football this year.
46:25He could be the best wide receiver in fantasy this year.
46:28Three seeds with 100 plus catches four with 1400 plus receiving yards like Justin Jefferson winning the triple crown is possible.
46:34He's Justin Jefferson capital J capital J on both of those names.
46:37Do not let him down again this year Minnesota because I just I'm not Justin has never expressed anything other than great
46:43affinity for where he plays quick crazy. There's no way he would be happy if they have another crap season.
46:48No no I would be and if I was just Justin Jefferson I would want out to maximize my skill set while
46:54I have it before I get before I don't because this is a game where it did it disappears quickly.
47:00Crazy stat on a per game basis. Kyler Murray has been a top 12 quarterback every single season of his career except for last year.
47:06QB 11 QB 4 QB 4 QB 7 QB 9 QB 12 and then QB 19 last year.
47:11OK but 30% of those fantasy points came from rushing.
47:14Yes. Not passing. We're talking about getting the ball to Justin Jefferson.
47:17Sorry I was just pivoting ahead too. Now when you look at this we've done a lot of mock draft stuff.
47:23There's not a lot of quarterbacks that are being drafted outside the top 15 that have had the chance to potentially be a top five guy.
47:30We've seen Kyler Murray be a top five guy twice.
47:33Yeah. Have either of you drafted him at all in our mock draft project throughout this off season?
47:37Kyler Murray. We did these like in succession last year.
47:40This year we're spreading them out. So my answer is probably yes but not as a target.
47:45Not someone that you were specifically targeting in the later rounds.
47:48OK. Just wanted to put that out there. All right.
47:50Let's move ahead. Talk about the Denver Broncos as well as long as you guys are good with the Minnesota Vikings.
47:56Yep. All right. Jalen Waddle. We're always good with moving on from Minnesota Vikings.
48:00Yes I'm with you girl. All right. Jalen Waddle traded over to the Denver Broncos guys.
48:04New weapon for Bo Nix. Waddle has been trying to recapture the first two seasons of his career for a minute.
48:10His first two years in the NFL were unbelievable.
48:12A top 15 wide receiver both of those years and then he was wide receiver 34 wide receiver 46 wide receiver 24 in Miami.
48:19Things just fell apart Liz. Now he gets to move on.
48:22He becomes what I believe is the wide receiver one in this Denver offense.
48:26I don't think it's Cortland Sutton. I think it's Jalen Waddle.
48:28I feel it. So I want to know how are you approaching Waddle in drafts this year.
48:33Are you more in on him being that guy that he was earlier in his career or you still have a little
48:39bit of nervousness as you go into the draft season.
48:42My only nervousness is Sean Payton who is sneaky like a fox.
48:45Right. Like we can never really rely on him to rely on one person though.
48:49The fact that the team gave up a first a third and a fourth to obtain him does suggest a heavy investment
48:55and I do think that Sean Payton can finally get his joker now if you will.
48:59We can move all over the formation. We thought maybe Ingram would be that guy last year.
49:04Definitely wasn't. And for the first time in a long time Waddle now has a complimentary skill set on the other side.
49:10It's not duplicative. Right. It's not him and Tyreek who are similar.
49:13And I do think that will help him. I have him as a why as my wide receiver 19 right now.
49:19But I do think he has wide receiver one meaning inside the top 12 upside.
49:23Well, I've got him exactly as wide receiver 19 as well.
49:26I have I don't have as much optimism. I guess that wasn't like crazy optimism.
49:30I'd be surprised by top 12 only because it's a fairly crowded room.
49:33Right. Like Cortland Sutton got a I think it was four years.
49:37Got a bunch of money in dollar deal last year.
49:39The team has like they spent a third round pick on Pat Bryant.
49:43This is what Sean Payton does. He just keeps throwing funneling assets into players.
49:47And so and I do think they want to run the football.
49:50They've got a great offensive line. There's a feels like a little bit of like an egalitarian approach amongst the pass catchers.
49:56I think he deserves to be right there in that top 20 of wide receivers.
50:00He's super talented. I love the fact that as a rookie Jalen Waddle was basically Jarvis Landry for Miami.
50:05Everything was at or near the line of scrimmage because they couldn't throw the football down the field.
50:10And then he emerged one of the best deep threats in the league.
50:13So you can do it all. I just so I just am not quite as bullish on like top 10 or 12 upside.
50:20But top 20 is reasonable to me. I think the upside could be that high.
50:24But I have him I think realistically drafted where you guys are ranked where you guys do.
50:28I have his wide receiver 20. The thing that makes me frustrated when I look at this kid that those rookies that rookie season was unbelievable.
50:35Even his second year was great. He's only top 75 catches one time in his career.
50:4075 is not a big number for a guy that's supposed to be a superstar wide receiver.
50:44He has never had a career target share. Never had a target share over 23 and a half percent.
50:49He has never topped. Not even 24 not 25.
50:52That's not an elite number for your biggest season ever for your target share to be 23.2 percent.
50:57That is not elite period. So I wonder here in this offense with what they spent on him.
51:01But given all the pieces that they have that you just mentioned.
51:05That's why I have him more as wide receiver 20 than moving up into that like high end wide receiver two range.
51:11A solid wide receiver two is what you're... I think his talent and skill can be higher but not with all the pieces that are going on.
51:18Then you're happy where he's being drafted as well.
51:20Absolutely. What about Travis Etienne? Hold on. Hold on a second.
51:23Time out. Biggest story of the offseason and you butchered it right away.
51:27Travis Achan. How did you miss this one? Dang it.
51:30You're right. A very notable NFL player story after five seasons in the league was like you guys have been saying this wrong.
51:36I've been saying my name wrong. Yeah. His name is Travis Achan and we've been calling him Travis Etienne for like a
51:42decade because in college we called him Travis Etienne as well.
51:45Yeah. Can you imagine if we were just calling you Daniil for the past decade?
51:49No. That's the French for when you go to Paris.
51:51I'm sure that happens to Daniil Hunter because his name was spelled kind of like Danielle right?
51:56So it's like that definitely happened. Have you seen Daniil Hunter though?
51:59I would never. I would not come at him.
52:02I would just be like Mr. Sir. Mr. Hunter.
52:04Mr. Sir. Yes. Whatever you want to be called works by me.
52:07The guy is so apologies I guess to Travis Achan for waiting this long to not knowing for all these years that
52:13this is how you pronounce it but we won't mess it up going forward.
52:17You did that on purpose Daniel so that Field could do that.
52:20That's exactly right. Personally apologize as a team to Travis.
52:23Thank you. And to his brother Trevor as well.
52:25Trevor Achan the running back for the Panthers. But yes he ends up with the Saints.
52:30Yeah. Thoughts on how this impacts the backfield here Liz?
52:32Dude has been awesome. I mean he was really good last year.
52:36He was revitalized by Liam Cohen and Liam Cohen isn't in New Orleans so that's a little problematic.
52:41Also Alvin Kamara did is coming back for his 31 year 31st year.
52:44How do you say that? 31st year. Year 31.
52:47Age 31 season. Age 31. We got there. Age 31 season.
52:50I do think that might take a little bit of a chunk out of.
52:53It'll shine off. Out of Achan's receiving work but otherwise I think he's a solid RB too.
52:58I'm not wildly excited but he does. He is expected to command the lead here and I do like a Kellen Moore led offense that is fairly uptown.
53:05I like the Saints this year. I like this offense.
53:08I like Tyler Shuck. I like Tyler Shuck a lot.
53:11I'm in on him. The lobby just got paid.
53:13Yep. And Jordan Tyson like I think they're in a good spot where they could be an offense that surprises us this year.
53:20I think a couple years ago they started out super hot in a surprising way and then like came back to the
53:25earth the way that we all thought that they would.
53:28Yeah. I could see them being a legitimate offense that's going to contend in the NFC South this year.
53:33Yeah. They're right there in that division. The wind was kind of taken out of the sails when that Alvin Kamara deal got got done.
53:40Now he's a franchise legend perspective. Yes. Yes. Obviously they want to keep him there.
53:44I don't know that he's a particularly effective player but what's the point of keeping Alvin Kamara for six and a half
53:50million dollars if you're not going to use him at all.
53:53Like I get loyalty that part I respect but like I don't think they're so loyal that they're like here's six and
53:59a half million dollars to be a game day inactive.
54:02Like it would be more like a million dollars to be game would be the Devin Singletary restructure where it's like you're
54:08making the minimum with a chance through incentives to get some money back.
54:11How do you feel about the other side of this?
54:14Are you in on Basial Tootin being a guy that you need to target in drafts as an RB2?
54:19I'm going to put this out there right now.
54:21The Jaguars offense is probably the most confusing one to give ranks.
54:25Thank you field. Thank you. Yeah. It's tough all the way around.
54:28I thought maybe the most surprising contract to free agency amongst running backs was Chris Rodriguez.
54:32Like if I told you Chris Rodriguez just sound like a one-year deal during the middle of OTAs for like sort of
54:38the minimum, I would be I'd be like, oh yeah, that's right.
54:41He got like two years and 13 million bucks.
54:44It was like an incredibly specifically targeted move by the Jaguars.
54:47That's more money than Keaton Mitchell got. Yeah. That's right.
54:49And Keaton Mitchell's healthy. That's true. And Chris Rodriguez has a history with Liam Cohen.
54:54They were together at Kentucky back when Liam Cohen was the OC there.
54:57So this was a Liam Cohen move for sure.
54:59I don't think this is like fully handing the reins to Basial Tootin, but Tootin's way more explosive.
55:04He's going to have a lot of big play upside.
55:07He's going to catch the ball more effectively than Rodriguez.
55:10So I have him as RB22. I'm more optimistic on him than any other Jags back.
55:14I have him on the RB2, RB3 bubble there.
55:17I think that that means Tootin, not Rodriguez. Rodriguez, by the way, is still dealing with this foot injury.
55:22So Tootin has been absorbing all of the first team reps and that's giving him more familiarity.
55:26I think what's head scratching is that Tootin played against type last season, right?
55:30He profiles as more of a space guy, but was the short yardage option as playing behind A-Chan last season.
55:35So I think he's going to have to grow and stretch a little bit here, but I do like Tootin, especially where
55:41he's being drafted because there are some question marks and concerns as an RB2.
55:45Not a high price tag right now in fan drafts.
55:48So it's not a bad spot. The next month will be really helpful.
55:51Call it 25 days because we want people to draft.
55:54Before, yeah. We got some time actually. The next month will be really influential and like finalizing my thoughts.
55:59Like all the receivers in Jacksonville kind of confusing.
56:02The backfield, not as confusing, but you can kind of talk yourself into a few different outcomes there.
56:06But this is a good problem. Like this team is very talented and Trevor Lawrence, incredible value rating.
56:11It all works for Trevor Lawrence. Speaking of, help me figure out what it is that I need to know.
56:17Again, from a draft perspective, Carnell Tate. Last year, the Titans went out, grabbed their quarterback, Cam Ward.
56:22This year, they gave him a premier pass catcher.
56:24Is this one of those situations, field, where like we can trust this rookie right away in this offense and fantasy or?
56:30I'm optimistic. I've got him as wide receiver 22, which is the highest amongst our ESPN rankers right now.
56:35Consensus rank is wide receiver 28. So people that have him in the 30-ish range, I'm up at 22.
56:40Like the player a lot. I thought he perhaps got mislabeled during the pre-draft process.
56:44He went fourth overall, and there are people, and I think I said this at times too.
56:49They're like, I don't know that he's ever going to be like a dominant number one wide receiver in the NFL.
56:55But if he were, I probably would have him at like wide receiver 15 or 16 as opposed to wide receiver 22.
57:01Total pro, like a professional wide receiver before he even entered the NFL.
57:04Wouldn't surprise me, and this is not just an Ohio State thing, if he has like a little bit of the Emeka
57:10Abuka trajectory here, which is like Abuka, I had him as maybe like the 30th player of my 32, my final big board.
57:16He ends up going 19 or 20 or something like that in the draft, and he ended up having this really, really
57:22solid run last year for Tampa, and the system, the situation, the performance, like all kind of mesh at the right time.
57:28I'm optimistic on Cam Ward. I'm optimistic on Carnell Tate.
57:31I think this guy is going to be legit enough.
57:34I was going to say the truth, but the truth would be higher than wide receiver 22.
57:38Wide receiver 22, legit. I am happy about the landing spot here for Carnell Tate.
57:42They got a block in Tennessee, but otherwise, I think this team's going to be okay offensively.
57:47I think what you're also saying is that his transition to the pros should be very smooth given his polished skill set and pro readiness.
57:54Also, I also like him Chicago kid, so a little bit biased.
57:57Second easiest strength of schedule for the position, Tennessee.
57:59So that's a nice extra little something to know.
58:02Yeah, I would expect to the Titans to be throwing the ball a lot as they try to figure out their offense and find some wins.
58:09They're going to be good on defense though, man.
58:11That front four is ridiculous. The front seven is good.
58:14I like Tennessee. Real question marks about the offensive line.
58:16I think this team's going to make a leap forward and Cam Ward, who we'll talk about quarterback ranking soon.
58:22So I'm not like, oh my God, Cam Ward's a top 12 option, but 10 touchdowns, one pick following the bye last year.
58:28So he amidst really poor circumstances became a decidedly improved player on the flag.
58:32Speaking of, go ahead. I was just going to say also should be buoyed by the addition of Wandel Robinson, who's uniting
58:38with Brian Dable and a fantastic PPR value. God, he's so holding it.
58:41He's not going to see 140 targets like he did last year, but he will hold it down in the slot.
58:47He will. He certainly will. Yeah. Speaking of bad situations, the entire Las Vegas Raiders team last year was bad.
58:52Really bad. Should we end it here with the Raiders and their offensive hall this offseason?
58:57I think so. Let's finish it out with that because I'm hoping that we can get something different here because we got Ashton Gentey.
59:03Yep. Ashton Gentey let people down, but wasn't as disappointing as it may have felt.
59:07Perfect. That's the thing that you have to realize still a very good running back.
59:11We love Brock Bowers. And now you're going to get Fernando Mendoza.
59:15Who's going to start here at quarterback? I think Kirk Cousins will start week one, but you know, Drake May sat on the bench to begin a season.
59:22Then it was like, oh yeah, this is definitely not the right play.
59:26We'll switch him out after four or five games.
59:28So I think we'll be on that plan for Fernando Mendoza.
59:31The quarterback play I think will be steadier this year overall.
59:34They are healthier amongst the pass catcher, specifically Brock Bowers.
59:37It's a way better system. I think it's an improved offensive line with Tyler Linderbaum.
59:41They paid a bolt load. They sure did. But the reason why I still have Gentey as RB12 and not as like
59:47RB6, which he's going to be ranked really high for some people.
59:50It's an improved offensive line. It's a much better system.
59:53I don't know that it's like a quantum leap better situation yet though.
59:56Like the offensive line is still a major work in progress.
59:59Wow. Okay. Still a major work in progress. And so as we know last year it was basically Ashton Gentey creating all the yards for himself.
60:06Nearly two-thirds of his yards rushing came after contact.
60:09The guy was... He did all the work. It was amazing.
60:12That Houston Texans game late in the season was one for the ages from Ashton Gentey.
60:16But I really like the player obviously. Still optimistic but not as in as some of my colleagues.
60:21I have him inside my top ten. I mean despite averaging what 3.7 yards per carry?
60:25That's right. He was the RB5 and in evaded tackles per touch which alludes to Field's point about just him creating after
60:31contact when he was able to you know get past the first level.
60:35So I really do. I have him actually as my RB7.
60:38I'm a little more optimistic. Oh there we go.
60:40I'm optimistic because of the talent and you know maybe it's a bit of a talent crush but I also was really high on him last year.
60:47Talent and Clint Kubiak coming over. I think that's in part going to help unlock what it is that he can be
60:53hopefully add more as a pass catcher. Are you closer to Liz or me?
60:57Are you in the middle? I am exactly where Liz is.
61:00I have my 7. Remember if everybody thinks alike no one is thinking.
61:03That's right. I was just looking at your running back rankings to see you had in front of him.
61:09I can't argue with any of these. Also it's too early to argue.
61:12No it's never too early to argue. I mean you're right.
61:15I can. Okay. It's too early. I can argue with the baby at 1.30 to go back to sleep this morning.
61:21Go back to bed. Okay. That's fair. That's fair.
61:23Do you get a lot of fantasy thoughts in while you're doing that or are you just sort of like in a
61:29fever dream in the middle of the night? It's usually about a 30 minute process to feed a child right?
61:35Feed, burb. It's like all kinds of stuff goes through your head.
61:38That's when AI field really comes to life. He's locking in.
61:41Diapers, Ashton Genti, evaded tackles per touch. Yeah. Where's the.
61:43Shout out rocking chairs. Had not a lot of use for them until I became a dad.
61:48Wow. Shout out rocking chairs. Now they're awesome. That's not a thing that young cool people say usually.
61:53Well Daniel I'm no longer young. I was never cool.
61:56So that's what I talk about these days. Yeah right.
61:58Tender age of 39. Hey this has been fun.
62:01What a great first day back guys. Thanks for hanging out with Liz.
62:04Thank you for being here when Mike decided not to show up.
62:07We can always count on you. We appreciate it.
62:10Field always great to be able to see you and we are pumped to be back tomorrow.
62:15Shout out to our buddy Eric Moody. Follow him on social media at Eric and Moody hanging out in the chat as he always does.
62:21We're going to be back tomorrow. 12 team PPR mock draft.
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62:29That's going to do it for us today. Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
62:34You guys you deserve it. We love you. We'll see you on Tuesday.
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