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0:45I see you in the 0601. Friends, welcome to Fantasy Focus Football alongside the Field Yates and Mike Clay.
0:50My name is Daniel Dopp and we are very excited to talk about week one.
0:54It is in the books with the exception of Monday Night Football, obviously, but we have a lot of games to get into.
1:01Very excited to be here. We're just going to dive right into some football because we have so many things to talk about.
1:07We don't have time to mess around. We don't care about your weekend.
1:11We're going to mess around. We'll mess around in the middle of the show.
1:14We each took a game to be able to grab.
1:17We're going to kind of lead a game here and there.
1:20So we're just going to go around with our week one recap.
1:24Field, why don't we start with you, my friend?
1:26The old Colts versus the new Colts, the Ravens at the Colts in Indianapolis yesterday.
1:30And I want people to understand that when we give you a take, in a lot of cases, it's just not like for the rest of this season.
1:38This is what we expect for this player. But as we enter week two, this is kind of how we feel about specific teams.
1:44In Baltimore, oh my Zay Flowers. That guy looked like one of the best wide receivers in the NFL yesterday.
1:50And he got paid like one this offseason. Despite playing a part-time role, Zay Flowers had 26 fantasy points, five catches for 150 yards, and a touchdown.
1:57He is incredibly explosive. He had six targets only, in part because this game was a blowout, and he left at halftime.
2:03He did not return in the second half. There's been some reporting this morning from NFL Network that Zay Flowers could have
2:09returned if it was a playoff-type game. That might bode well for week two.
2:13But in the meantime, guys, we mentioned Zay Flowers as a potential breakout candidate.
2:17Week one, this new Declan Doyle offense. Very exciting for Zay Flowers.
2:20And then I have news for you guys, and I've been sitting on this all offseason.
2:25It turns out that Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry are still freaking awesome.
2:28Still good at football. How good were those guys yesterday?
2:31Derrick Henry had not one, not two, three rushing touchdowns.
2:34He does not age. It's insane to me that Derrick Henry does not age.
2:37He played 55% of the snaps, and he had almost 55 fantasy points.
2:41Actually, it was 35, but still. He was amazing.
2:43Just one catch. It doesn't matter. There is no player who has a better bet to rush for 100 yards and a touchdown in a game.
2:51Then Derrick Henry. He looked awesome. I mentioned him as one of my favorite players coming into this season.
2:56He was No. 11 on my big board, and part of the reason why was I thought a fast start was coming because of the Ravens' schedule.
3:03Lamar was amazing. Nobody else in this Ravens roster at the moment, to me, merits fantasy considerations.
3:08You guys disagree there? Nope. You're right. Certainly not Rashad Bateman, who had zero catches on 26 routes.
3:13Yeah, that would be not good. That's a typical Rashad Bateman.
3:16And Mark Andrews, probably more of a tight end, too, for right now.
3:19Yeah, I agree there. On the Colts side, we can probably keep it pretty narrow, which is that Jonathan Taylor, he's awesome as well.
3:26Even a game in which they got smoked. JT found the end zone twice.
3:3016 carries for—sorry, 19 carries for 98 yards. He also had four targets, which that's a good enough number for Jonathan Taylor
3:36because he can win in the Derrick Henry way, which is like maybe a target.
3:40But when he's getting close to a handful of targets, Jonathan Taylor reminds us why he was right there on the periphery of that RB1 tier, right?
3:47The B. John Robinson and Jameer Gibbs and Christian McCaffrey conversation extended to the likes of Jonathan Taylor and James Cook.
3:53A disappointing day from Tyler Warren, who ran 30 routes, had five targets, got a late, cheap touchdown to kind of salvage the day for 10.3 fantasy points.
4:01But not going to lie to you guys, I would have thought in a game in which the Colts are trailing, you'd
4:07expect bigger numbers out of Tyler Warren. Agreed. Still going to be a tight end one for me, but— Yeah, keep in
4:13mind Baltimore ran three safeties basically throughout the entire game, and they're very talented there.
4:17Like Jalen Hawkins was a starter for the AFC champion Patriots last year, and he was their third safety in this game, not to mention Roquan.
4:24I mean, that's a tough matchup for him, so not too worried.
4:27At least we got bailed out by the touchdown.
4:30Last thing I'll say on the Colts, and then you guys can add whatever you want.
4:34Josh Downs was their wide receiver one in terms of snaps, routes, run, was not wide receiver one in terms of targets,
4:40but he played 89% of the snaps, ran 32 routes.
4:43He was not coming off the field, which in prior years is their slot receiver.
4:47He had been. That might be in part influenced by the fact that Alec Pierce is still kind of recovering.
4:52He played just 59% of the snaps. But again, as we enter week two, the Colts go to Arrowhead next Sunday night, by the way.
4:59I don't view any Colts wide receiver as auto start.
5:02Not auto start. I think Alec Pierce, I'm optimistic.
5:05He was only eight behind downs and routes. He ran 22 routes and actually tied for the team lead with six targets and in receiving yards with 61.
5:12So he made some plays there. I'm feeling better about that mid-round draft investment, so he's at least on the flex radar.
5:18Anything you guys want to add from this game other than what I have covered up to this point?
5:23No way, you crushed it. One for one. I think that was pretty good.
5:27Bang! There we go. 12 to go, right? By the way, we've got four more days, including two leaner days, Wednesday and
5:33Thursday, that we can kind of lean into more of whatever we left on the cutting board today.
5:38Yeah, this is, it's on the screen. Recap. We're recapping today.
5:41We're going to start looking forward tomorrow. Yes. All right, let's talk about Saints and Lions, my friends.
5:46Make a victory laugh, Daniel Dobbs. 31-30 for the Detroit Lions.
5:49Love that. Also, I did kind of, you know, pound the table a little bit for my guy Tyler Shuck.
5:55It took some garbage time, guys. That was one half a play.
5:58Imagine if he played like that the whole game.
6:00Inside of the football. Jared Goff, pretty average day throwing the football.
6:04206 yards and two touchdowns. Mostly found his dude, Amon Ross St.
6:07Brown, who continues to show why he is one of the most consistent wide receivers in football.
6:12Only 67 receiving yards, but 10 catches on 14 targets.
6:14Just absurd. Yes, two touchdowns there. 28.7 fantasy points.
6:17The real story is Jameer Gibbs because he was unbelievable.
6:2033.6 fantasy points behind 29 carries for 156 yards and two touchdowns, plus five catches for 30 receiving yards.
6:25I love and hate this because I do not want him to get into the flow of 34 touches a game, guys.
6:31Who else is going to get touches for them, though?
6:34Sione Vake? That's a great question. The answer is just Sione Vake.
6:37Yes. Yeah, that looked unbelievable, though. If you had Jameer Gibbs, he was everything that you expected out of the guy that you drafted 1.01 or maybe 1.02.
6:44I mean, I think the race is over because B.
6:47John only scored 31.7. There we go. So it's clear that Jameer Gibbs was the right.
6:52There we go, guys. And keep in mind, this was an overtime game, so that added a few touches as well.
6:57Yeah, he's not going to be in the 30s for touches most weeks, which is good.
7:02Yes. If you took him first overall. We're fine at capping out at 24-25.
7:06Exactly. Laporta still looked like Sam Laporta. Wish there could have been a little bit more there in this game.
7:11Any targets you'll take, though? Yes, absolutely. And Jameis and Williams, nine targets.
7:15Had a couple of drops, unfortunately. Could have had a few more bigger plays.
7:18Only 8.5 fantasy points, but he did not look terrible other than that.
7:22Kind of status quo there for the Lions. They're kind of a chalky team.
7:26Yes. Let's look on the other side, though, because Tyler Shuck struggled in the beginning, friends.
7:30Most of this was in the second half, but he finished.
7:33And luckily, we went into overtime, which definitely helped us here.
7:36410 yards on 56 pass attempts, by the way.
7:39Three touchdowns, two interceptions. Didn't run the ball a whole lot.
7:42Only eight rushing yards, but he did finish with 23.2 fantasy points.
7:45And most importantly, he got the ball to the guy that we wanted him to get the football to.
7:50Chris Olave. 10 catches for 182 yards on 13 targets, 28.2 fantasy points.
7:54Do you think that we're in a spot now?
7:56That kind of made sense. We saw that about Chris Olave.
7:59He's the number one wide receiver in this offense.
8:02Do we need to pay more attention to Devon Vele as a part of our waiver conversation potentially going into next week?
8:08I believe so, at least until Jordan Tyson is back.
8:10Definitely. We talked about him on Fantasy Focus Countdown yesterday.
8:13Got it. Long shot. Good job, buddy. Got it.
8:16Was he a long shot? He was Adam Schefter's long shot.
8:19He was Adam's long shot. We had him in our DFS cash lineups in your tournament lineup.
8:23He was a popular play yesterday. No surprise with Jordan Tyson that he was very busy in this game.
8:29And as you said, seven for 69 and a touchdown.
8:31No doubt about it. I think when we do our rankings this week, he's probably going to be...
8:36Who are they playing this week? Do we know?
8:39The Saints are playing down in New Orleans. I think they'll be on the Flex Rater.
8:43I was lying. Is that at Baltimore? At Baltimore.
8:46A little trickier. He'll probably be at least on the Flex Rater.
8:49Certainly the top 40, 45, I would imagine. And the receiver's so deep.
8:52That's the only problem with him. Travis Olave briefly left the game to get some medical attention.
8:57So Valle led the team in both wide receiver snaps and routes.
9:00He ran 58 routes yesterday. That's a lot of routes.
9:03Hey, by the way, how many snaps or how many plays did the Saints run yesterday?
9:07A lot. An enormous amount. Yes. 70... Like 78?
9:10Yeah, yeah. So definitely within the field range of...
9:12Yes. Valle ran 52 routes. I had 58. Whatever.
9:15Different sources we're pulling from, but I had 58.
9:17Travis H. And kind of got game scripted a little bit because they got down in the first half.
9:23Only nine... I think the problem was early in the game, really.
9:26He came around. It was early on. By the way, in our Raheem Sanders...
9:30And Raheem Sanders, if either of you picked CJ Donaldson...
9:32Oh my gosh. Like he didn't score a touchdown, but I would have still been impressed because that was the most out
9:38of nowhere guy who got lots of snaps of week one for sure.
9:42Yeah. It kind of helped replace Alvin Kamara in a way, but...
9:45Right. Can I explain why I'm a tiny bit concerned about Travis H.
9:49And right now? Please, yeah. Yes. 59% of the snaps yesterday, which is an okay number.
9:53That's fine. Not a dominant number, but it's an okay number.
9:56But his production came as a pass catcher. Yes.
9:59Nine targets, seven catches for 32 yards. When Alvin Kamara returns, and it sounds like he could return as soon as next
10:05week, at least some of that passing game utilization probably goes to Kamara, right?
10:09So if you were to ask me, stock up, stock down, stock neutral for Travis H.
10:13And after just one game, despite having nine targets, which is a great number, I would probably say a slight stock down.
10:19I would say a slight stock down as well.
10:21I think though, when Kamara plays, you might get more of the carry share because he did split carries with Kendra Miller.
10:27But if Kamara is there, Miller maybe doesn't have much of a role.
10:31And then that goes to H. And who, by the way, ran it well.
10:35Nine for 46. It's 5.1 yards per carry. So, but again, my main concern is the first half where he was barely on the field.
10:42So that changed in the second half. And we just got our first buzzer.
10:45Yeah, first buzzer to move on with that one.
10:48All right, let's keep on going. Bills and Texans.
10:50Bills and Texans. What a game. The Bills win this game at absolute Barnburn, 36-31.
10:55I have more breaking news. Yep. I told you guys earlier exclusively that Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry are good.
11:00So is Josh Allen. Yes. Shout out to Daniel for not wavering one bit.
11:04Josh Allen is quarterback two on the week with a monster four total touchdown game.
11:08There's not really any analysis other than like, the only week this year where you're going to wonder, do I play Josh Allen was this one?
11:15And only 4% of leagues on ESPN.com did somebody sit Josh Allen.
11:18Wow. So nevermore is there a question. He plays the Lions on Thursday night.
11:22His projection might be 30 points. Is this like patting yourself on the back, but you're massaging yourself?
11:27No, no, no, no. It's just, I do have my therabody out here to be able to.
11:32It just, I was carrying the water for Josh Allen all week that it just, it hurt.
11:36Carrying the podcast. Let's talk about the more important stuff here for the, uh, bills, a kind of a wonky game.
11:42We're not going to take too much away from Josh Allen, but there were a couple of things that did work out really well in his favor.
11:50DJ Moore went for five catches at a hundred yards and a touchdown on eight targets.
11:54So he actually caught, excuse me, had a target on eight of his 26 routes.
11:58Like that's a gigantic number for only 26 routes run.
12:01His touchdown was a long one. Yep. It was also one of those plays that very easily could have just been an
12:07incomplete pass that nobody would have talked about. So I think that DJ Moore obviously and clearly is the bills wide receiver
12:13and pass catcher that you want to start the most.
12:16Yes. But I, I don't think he's, I don't think DJ Moore becomes a top 20 wide receiver for me.
12:21Well, maybe in week two, because of the matchup, just because of what we saw yesterday.
12:25Dalton Kincaid was a really interesting story as like the player that the bill is drafted in the first round.
12:31There's been all kinds of hype basically every year surrounding him.
12:34Yep. Well, great. Five catches, 130 yards, six targets for Kincaid, probably good enough to put himself in that borderline tight end one conversation for week two.
12:41Otherwise bills pass catchers moving on. Let's go to the Texans here.
12:45And I think this is really interesting. Strong start for Nico Collins.
12:48He had 10 targets on 37 routes. CJ Straub was okay yesterday, but clearly Nico Collins is so consistent.
12:53So consistently good guys. That's right. I mean, Nico's the guy seven for 75 and a touchdown wide receiver eight going into Monday night football.
13:00Nobody else, no wide receiver. And I would argue no tight end is an auto start for the Texans right now.
13:06Agreed. Is David Montgomery the ultimate sell high candidate after week one?
13:09Because you might be saying to yourself, the guy was amazing at three touchdowns, 29 fantasy points.
13:14He's RB six going into Monday night football. I don't think, I don't think I would sell.
13:18Go ahead. You said, I was just going to say the snap counts in this one.
13:23He played 50.7% of the snaps. It was virtually an even split.
13:26Yeah. One more snap than Woody Marks. It was very busy in this game.
13:30I mean, it depends. Woody Marks had more run routes run.
13:33Yeah. He averaged way more yards per carry. David Montgomery averaged three yards per carry.
13:37I just, I'm just telling you like we, the leagues we play in are serious and almost everybody is pragmatic.
13:42I know how fantasy football is. Weird stuff happens after week one.
13:46Someone's going to offer David Montgomery for Jamar Chase this week.
13:49It's going to happen. Like I'm just telling you, we'll talk about Jamar Chase in a little bit.
13:54I think there is a case that David Montgomery, after what happened yesterday, is a legitimate sell high.
13:59I agree. I think there's a chance that's, here I go out on a limb.
14:03There's a chance that David Montgomery does not score 29 fantasy points in the game this season.
14:07And I think people are going to be saying to themselves, wow, this guy is like, he's rejuvenated.
14:12He's the guy in the Houston backfield. This offensive line might be a little bit better than last year.
14:17David Montgomery will be a name. I mean, he'll be ranked as a top 22-ish back for me going into week two.
14:23I would consider selling high. And remember, they scored four touchdowns in this game.
14:27In the C.J. Stroud era, at least the last couple of years, they're closer to like two.
14:32I mean, this is not an offense that usually scores a lot of points.
14:36And going into the week, we said this is not a defense we're that afraid of anymore in Buffalo.
14:41So they kind of took advantage of that at home.
14:44The touchdowns went his way. He scored three of their four touchdowns.
14:47That's usually not going to happen. And yes, there's some possibility that he follows what Joe Mixon did a couple of years
14:53ago and continues to put up the big touchdown numbers and the heavy volume.
14:57But I agree. He's at his peak right now is the key.
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16:39All right. Moving on, Mike. Browns and Jaguars. You take the reins here.
16:43Browns and Jaguars. Maybe just the Jaguars? Maybe just the Jaguars.
16:46Yeah, I don't think we really want to talk about the Browns very much in this one, but the Jags did what we thought they would.
16:53They crushed them. 34 to 10 in this one.
16:55Trevor Lawrence did his thing. Four passing touchdowns. Just 23 attempts.
16:58They didn't have to throw the ball much in the second half, but he was highly efficient.
17:03Our guy, Parker Washington, came out firing. Fortunately, he did his damage early in this one.
17:08Five for 83 and a touchdown. He only ran 17 routes, so this could have been a lot better had this been a more competitive game.
17:15By the way, Brian Thomas looked good early. Did.
17:17All three targets for 40 yards. He left injured.
17:20He did only miss 10 pass plays, again, because they ended up throwing much in the second half, but we'll keep an eye on that this week.
17:27I think the most interesting thing here was the running back snaps.
17:30It was a lot of Chris Rodriguez early. That changed as the game went on.
17:34Bashal Tootin, 27 snaps by the end of the game.
17:37Chris Rodriguez, 23. The other two running backs barely played.
17:40Combined six for Amir Abdul and LeQuinn Allen, but this one kind of surprised me.
17:44The carries. Tootin, 15. Rodriguez, 6. And they basically split pass routes as well.
17:4810 for Rodriguez, 9 for 2, and they combined for one target.
17:51So not much passing game involvement for these guys.
17:54Again, they didn't have to use them, but I think the routes is interesting.
17:57They were basically even. We'll keep an eye on that.
18:00The only other thing I have for Jacksonville is not much Travis Hunter on offense.
18:04One carry, two routes. We might not have to mention him again this year unless we're talking about receiver corner matchups at
18:10some point because he is not involved with the offense very much.
18:14I don't think I learned, I don't think yesterday was the right game for us to learn much about the Jaguars backfield.
18:20The numbers are what they are, but that's one of those games that so much was gotten, they did such an amazing job through the air.
18:27Kind of whatever they did in the backfield was just basically killing clock.
18:30Yeah. Right? So like you could make the case, oh, Basial Tootin's playing in the second half when they're trying to kill
18:36the clock because Chris Rodriguez is so valuable. You got to, he's the number one.
18:40Yeah. Or conversely, you could say, hey, they want to run the football in the second half to kill the clock.
18:46They think that Basial Tootin's giving them a better chance to run the football for consecutive first downs and kill more clock.
18:52So I'm largely ignoring week one for the Jaguars backfield, but I agree with Mike on the sentiments surrounding the pass catchers.
18:58For the Browns. We're ignoring all of the Browns for week one, right?
19:02The answer is yes. Yeah. Judkins, Fannin, obviously duds.
19:04I think that it was good to see the rookie receivers out there and impactful.
19:08So if you want to keep Concepcion and Boston on your bench, Boston did have the long garbage time touchdown, which is good.
19:15Concepcion was busy as well. And that's about it.
19:17I mean, Dylan Sampson left hurt on his second special team snap.
19:20That's not really going to affect Judkins much. Maybe a little in the passing game he did to get more involvement there.
19:26But our guy, Raheem Sanders. Literally. Had an expanded role for Cleveland.
19:30Made one of their only good plays in the game.
19:32But yeah, that's it. I mean, I think this week we're still...
19:36Judkins, borderline RB2. Fannin, borderline tight end one. That's it right now for what you're starting?
19:40It's gross. By the way, get this charade over with.
19:43Stop playing Deshaun Watson. Yeah. Like, it does you no good.
19:46It was an embarrassment yesterday, and the Browns know it.
19:49But every time they chart him back out there, it's even more embarrassing.
19:52I don't know if Shador Sanders is going to be the Browns' answer at quarterback.
19:56I have questions about that. But at least go find out.
19:59And the best way to figure that out is to, like, let the guy play.
20:03So, they play Tampa this upcoming week. There's no reason when the Browns go back down to Florida.
20:08Deshaun Watson should still be their starting quarterback. Yeah, and they have, if not Sanders, you have two other quarterbacks you've got
20:14to take a look at this year, too. Yep.
20:17Taylor Green, Dylan Gabriel. So, uh... Gabriel and I are for three more weeks, but at some point...
20:22Take a look at these other guys. I want to say so many things.
20:26Sorry. I wanted to say so many things in that moment.
20:29I decided not to. Okay. All right, let's move ahead.
20:31We really don't have to say much about the Browns for a while, for fantasy.
20:35Like, the only one that I think... I mean, I guess Harold Fannin, too.
20:39But, like, Quinchon Judkins is the closest to the radar.
20:42And they might just get game scripted out of Quinchon Judkins' good weeks.
20:46That's how bad they were yesterday. Only somebody said that coming into this season.
20:49We'll see. It's not over yet. I still believe in Judkins.
20:52That guy's super talented. He's very talented, yes. I think he's going to soak up the volume.
20:57You know who else is talented? Everybody that plays for Ben Johnson, guys.
21:01Oh, boy. Guys, 59 points from the Bears yesterday.
21:03Are you kidding me? The most bizarre box score of maybe not just week one...
21:07Unbelievable. ...that we might see all season is the Bears scored 59 points.
21:1159! Ben Johnson called a shot and delivered. And Colston Loveland scored zero of those points.
21:15What?! Colston Loveland, who ran a team high 35 routes.
21:18And the Bears, I could tell this. Late in the game, the Bears had the ball first and goal from the one.
21:24And Ben Johnson dialed up a play for Colston Loveland.
21:27You know that Ben knew that Loveland had not gotten any production up to that point.
21:31That's wild. He had zero points and they scored 59.
21:34Next thing you're going to tell me is Khalif Raymond led them in receiving or something.
21:38Well, Mike, we'll get there in a second. But Colston Loveland, I mean, what are you going to say other than this is incredibly unlucky.
21:45He was a terrible pick for starters of the week, it turns out.
21:48Loveland's going to be fine. Fine. Fine. Fine. It's a very good offense.
21:52He's playing all the time now. Played 86% of the snaps.
21:55We're going to talk about some other stuff in just a minute.
21:58But how about our guy, Daniel Duff? Wasting no time.
22:01He is on the board of the Raheem Sanders fund.
22:04He's going to come back. Find the edge of it in week one.
22:07Let's go. Great pick. Thank you very much. Thank you.
22:10I didn't get anybody last year. You guys had it.
22:13So for me to be able to do this.
22:15You had none last year? No, I had none last year.
22:18So for me to hit it here in week one felt so good.
22:22Again, listen, he was what? Plus? He was like plus 650 this week.
22:25Yes. Something like that. That was great. Just again, you're in the money, honey, if you are following these picks so far.
22:31And it doesn't matter that Khalif Raymond actually had a legitimately good game as a wide receiver who I believe Mike picked.
22:38He was my pick. Oh, you picked? Okay. Yes.
22:40I knew that Khalif Raymond was going to play a real role.
22:43He was legit. And Johnson loves him. And he had a team high nine targets, a team high eight catches, a team high 84 receiving yards.
22:50I think he'll be on the waiver column tomorrow.
22:53In deeper leagues, I think it's going to be a name that you need to know.
22:57So past catchers, I'm going to largely like the more important takeaway is not that Luther Burden had 9.5 fantasy points and Romo Doonzey had just 7.2.
23:05To me, the bigger picture is Caleb Williams looked amazing.
23:07Great. Quarterback one for the week. The Bears passing offense was ridiculous.
23:11They scored 59 points. There are going to be a lot of good days for the guys that we care about most.
23:17Colston Loveland, Luther Burden III, and Romo Doonzey. Agreed.
23:19DeAndre Swift. Absurd. Shout out to you for shouting out Courtney Cronin, who was shouting out DeAndre Swift field.
23:24She was on it. She said it. And we talked about it on the show.
23:28Yes, we did. She said it like DeAndre Swift is just becoming the most overlooked, really good player in fantasy.
23:34He's not going to score 32.4 fantasy points every week.
23:37He looked apart though yesterday. 18 carries for 124 rushing yards.
23:40He had three touchdowns. Kyle Moon Nungai also had 20.4 fantasy points.
23:43One big run. He got a lot of that on like a 61-yard touchdown run.
23:47But for the Bears, you want as much of Caleb Williams, DeAndre Swift, and the pass catchers as you can get.
23:53For the Panthers, I thought the most... Wait. Before you move on, is this a...
23:57I mean, I know this is going to seem obvious, but like, would you send out panic trade offers to Bears managers?
24:03Absolutely. Roma Dunze, Luther Burden, Colson Loveland. In week one, if you've got those David Montgomerys or someone that you think overperformed,
24:09just saying that so that it's like, I doubt someone's going to want to move off of them, but why not try?
24:15Yeah. I mean, this is probably DeAndre Swift's best game as well.
24:18I mean, it almost certainly is his best game.
24:21I believe in him more than David Montgomery. Obviously, you know, we thought that during draft season to some extent.
24:26So, and the offense obviously looked good, which just helps his value.
24:30But it's still, I mean, when a guy has a game like that, you definitely consider moving, you know, making a deal.
24:36All right. Panther side. I thought the most important thing that I think...
24:39The Panthers went nuts through the air, right? Bryce Young, it was great.
24:43Galen Coker had eight catches for 138 yards and two touchdowns yesterday.
24:46He went nuts. We talked about him as a sleeper coming into the season.
24:50Kind of a quiet day for Ted Arone and McMillan, but it's Coker and it's McMillan, the two wide receivers that matter the most.
24:56Coker will be on the waiver wire list as well tomorrow.
24:59But to me, the most notable thing that I think is like sticky for next week and important for next week is
25:05that it was a Chuba Hubbard show. And, you know, I felt in the preseason the Panthers were not going to lean
25:11heavily into Jonathan Brooks because he's coming off of back-to-back seasons with a major knee injury and he was banged up at the end of the preseason.
25:19So, that was the case in week one. 70% of the snaps for Chuba Hubbard, 69.4 to be specific.
25:24Less than 20% of the snaps for Jonathan Brooks.
25:26He's going to get healthier and he is still an explosive player.
25:30But I think for week two and going into the early portions of the season, Chuba Hubbard can hang around that low-end RB2 radar.
25:36Maybe, you know, low-end RB2 slash flex consideration. And Jonathan Brooks for now is a bench dash.
25:41I would agree he did have a 40-yard catch.
25:43Yep, that was sweet. But the snaps is the big one, yeah.
25:47Hubbard will be ranked as probably an RB2 this week.
25:49I'm with you. There was a little garbage time that affected Carolina a little bit.
25:54It led to some carries for A.J. Dillon late.
25:56So, there will be more volume overall for those running backs.
25:59But I agree, Hubbard's the guy for now, not even a close call.
26:03Another guy who's going to potentially have his best week of the season here in week one, Chuba Hubbard, because of game
26:09script and the way that everything played out with the 24 points he almost scored here.
26:13Let's talk about the Bucs and the Bengals, my friend.
26:16Talk to me. If I told you that 60 points were scored in this game, you'd be like, oh man, my guys smashed.
26:22Yeah, Jamar Chase definitely went for like 25. Then what if I told you that there were two defensive touchdowns and six field goals in this game?
26:29And it wasn't the guys that you wanted to score touchdowns that got in the end zone.
26:34Stop me if you've heard this before. Bengals start the season slow from a fantasy perspective.
26:39They actually won this game. They scored 33 points.
26:41Joe Burrow, unfortunately, doesn't reach 255 passing yards, but does get a touchdown.
26:45Chase Brown does the Chase Brown thing. Unfortunately, inefficient again, but he is so good through the air.
26:49Five catches for 22 yards there. 18.8 fantasy points.
26:52Finds the end zone. And he's the only one, honestly, in this offense that you started that paid off.
26:57Because Jamar Chase, unfortunately, the number two thing, like the second most Googled thing yesterday was, did Jamar Chase get hurt?
27:03No way. Because fantasy managers were trying to wonder, what's going on?
27:06What was number one? Why? Did Colston Loveland get hurt?
27:09Because he had zero fantasy points. I promise you.
27:11I did not think you were going to go that direction.
27:14Oh, that's where it was. I thought it was going to be inappropriate.
27:18No. No, no, no. I thought you were going to say like Sidney Sweeney new commercial.
27:22Oh, yeah. T. Higgins. That's probably factually true. That is probably, yeah, yeah, yeah.
27:26Don't fact check mine, actually, just in case. But T.
27:29Higgins, at least three for 59. But honestly, all of these guys in the passing game just kind of let down.
27:35This is one of those things that I hate to say it, but the Bengals sometimes start slow.
27:40This is a game I'm super, or they're pumped that they won.
27:43Nothing's going to change for us next week. This is the chalkiest of chalky teams.
27:47We're going to roll them out there just like we did this week.
27:51What do you do about this? Well, if it makes you feel any better, it could get worse.
27:55As Jamar Chase did have a game worse than this at one point in his career.
28:00Just one time. Oh, great. It was week 15 of his rookie season.
28:03Okay. He had 1.3 fantasy points as opposed to three points, two fantasy points.
28:07But yeah, not his day. Superman forgot his cape for one Sunday afternoon.
28:11He'll be back next weekend. Yeah. I'll give you a Montgomery for Chase.
28:14Anyone? I mean, that's what I'm telling you. Someone's going to do it.
28:18Oh, it'll definitely happen. Let's talk on the other side here because also for the passing game for the Bucs, it was
28:24pretty easy to see Emeka Bucca clearly the wide receiver one.
28:27Nice to see Chris Godwin out there. Four for 40.
28:30Most of that came on one 30-yard catch. The rest of it was kind of dink and duck for him.
28:35It really was just the Emeka Bucca show through the receiving game.
28:38The real conversation here is holy smokes, Bucky versus Kenny.
28:41And we talked up Kenny Gainwell so much with everything he does as a receiving back, all the things he's going to be doing in this offense.
28:49And that Kenny Gainwell did not show up on Sunday.
28:51At all. Not at all. Bucky Irving, 8 for 45 and a touchdown on the ground, plus 7 catches for 48 yards on 7 targets.
28:58A total of 20.3 fantasy points. On the other side, Kenny Gainwell, 5 carries for 15 yards.
29:03Only 1 catch for 3 yards on 1 target.
29:052.8 fantasy points. What was the running back split with these guys?
29:0921 to 14 in routes. Okay. 22, 13. And then 61.5 to 46.2 in the snaps.
29:13Man. I mean, did we just get this one wrong?
29:16I think it's too early to tell. I agree.
29:18It's odd to me that you would pay Kenneth Gainwell $7 million per year, which is the first real contract of his,
29:24like first big money contract of his career, to then utilize him the way that they did yesterday.
29:29I would have thought that he would be the ultimate security blanket in a game that they were trailing, by the way.
29:35And they were trailing pretty considerably. Yeah. So I am very surprised that Kenneth Gainwell had one target yesterday.
29:40And by the way, he played 46% of the snaps at Gainwell.
29:44That's a big number for a number two running back.
29:46Like he's still plenty involved and the touches will go his way.
29:50And we know from Pittsburgh last year, this guy can make plays.
29:53So he's going to be involved. I think the only variable as it pertains to Irving's fantasy stock is, yeah, we might
29:59get Mark Gainwell, but when Sean Tucker is back, does he take goal line work?
30:03That's still a variable that was not in play yesterday because he was out.
30:07Josh Williams was there and he didn't play any snaps.
30:10So I'm going to keep an eye on that.
30:12But for now, Irving, at least for the moment, back in the running back two conversation.
30:17There's nothing like saying right before we come into the week.
30:20Bucky Irving doesn't have a ceiling anymore because there's no touchdowns because of Sean Tucker and there's no receiving game value because of Kenny Gainwell.
30:26Well, there was no Sean Tucker yesterday. No Sean Tucker.
30:29By the way, do you guys recall in Fantasy Focus Countdown when we were interviewing Kimberly Martin, who's covering the game?
30:35Oh, yes. Yeah, Ted Johnson's like, you can quote me on this.
30:38We got the best wide receiver room in the NFL.
30:41Can we just, let's put that one in the back burner.
30:44Pump the brakes a little bit. Yeah. Nice group.
30:46He also ran six routes, so that must be his justification for not getting on the field.
30:51He had negative receivers. He was so loaded. He had negative fantasy points yesterday.
30:55Minus .4. Oh, yeah, he did. He had a carry for a loss.
30:58Ted Hurst, by the way, ran in place of Jalen McMillan, ran a ton of routes in this game.
31:04Only three targets. Yeah, but that's probably Jalen McMillan's job when he's back.
31:07So, nothing to see there. Guys, I didn't think the day would come.
31:11What? But we really, and I mean really, really, really, really need Tua Tungo-Bailoa back in our lives.
31:16What? Did you guys watch the Steelers-Falcons game? Yeah.
31:18Unfortunately. I tried not to. Those that did, I'm sorry.
31:21For those that didn't, smart decision. This one set back football.
31:24I mean, it was ridiculous. It's a legitimate miracle.
31:26It's a testament to the brilliance of B. John Robinson.
31:29That he had 31.3 fantasy points in a game in which his team was disgustingly bad.
31:33He is so good. God, 10 targets yesterday by far.
31:36He had six more targets than anybody else. Because of Cooper Rush, the Steelers are like, we'll blitz the heck out of you.
31:42We'll pressure you. If you're going to beat us down the field, it's going to be by a miracle only.
31:48So, if you want to dink and dunk your way to 13 points, have at it.
31:52And that's what they did. Yeah, what do you have?
31:55A 52% target share? That seems good, right? That's like double a great target share.
31:59It's insane. So, eight catches for 90 yards, 83 rushing yards, touchdown as well.
32:03The guy's just an unbelievable player. And everybody else got totally neutered by Cooper Rush.
32:07Drake London had four targets. Two catches, 29 yards.
32:10That stinks. Gross. He did have that one rush for six yards.
32:13Doesn't help the things that much. Kyle Pitts had a bagel.
32:16Kyle Pitts had a bagel. I had a bagel for lunch yesterday.
32:19I'm not blaming him for this one. Of course not.
32:22I'm telling you, the quarterback stinks. That's why I want Tua back.
32:25Yeah. Until we get Tua back, these guys who are playing a lot are almost useless for fantasy.
32:30Feels that way. Like, if we think that Cooper Rush is going to start in week two, good luck trying to decide where to rank Drake London.
32:38By the way, Michael Penix might play in week two.
32:40He said week two or three. Yes. I'll take him.
32:43I would take Penix over Tua for sure. Like, I want Penix in there yesterday.
32:47Like, I think Michael Penix Jr. can sling that thing.
32:50I might bring Matt Ryan back out of the booth and take that over Cooper Rush.
32:54He almost walked down there. Yeah. I mean, geez.
32:57So, Falcons, we absolutely need quarterback stability because yesterday was gross.
33:00For the Steelers, to me, the most interesting thing from the Steelers was the running back split in the backfield.
33:05Mike, if you have different snap percentages, let me know.
33:08But my number was 58% for Rico Dowdle, 36% for Jalen Warren.
33:11Correct. A clear edge for Rico, which might be in part because they were winning this game, right?
33:16They're winning this game. Even if it wasn't by a huge margin, seven points felt like 17 points against that decrepit Falcons offense.
33:22Yep. Jalen Warren, though, had more rushing attempts. He had one more target, six to five.
33:27And he had five catches for 27 yards compared to Rico Dowdle's two catches for six yards.
33:31My bigger takeaway coming out of this one, other than, like, Rico playing way more snaps, I think in part because of
33:38the game script, is this one feels a little dead zone-y to me.
33:41That was my, I was like, man, you know what?
33:44Like, even if things were okay for one or the other here, 10.3 fantasy points for Jalen Warren, I'd rather pass than start either of these guys.
33:51Yeah, Warren had the, Dowdle the edge in snaps, Warren the edge in usage.
33:55I think it was just a interchangeable deal because Dowdle ran seven more routes than Warren did.
34:00But I think it was a hot hand thing where Warren was playing better.
34:04He was clearly more efficient in this game. I don't think that, Dowdle's good.
34:07Like, that's not going to be the same every single week.
34:10Kind of same with Tampa Bay, what we just talked about.
34:13Like, you're going to get more gain while when he makes a play or two.
34:17They're going to put him out there more. I think it's going to be the same kind of thing in Pittsburgh.
34:23So, I'm with you. It's a situation to avoid, which is what we said going into yesterday.
34:28It feels like with Rico Dowdle or Jalen Warren, I guess, but these are two guys that you will consider basically from week four to week 12.
34:35When bi-weeks hit and you need someone off the bench to give you that 9.8 or 11.2 fantasy points, but when you
34:41have the full complement of the entirety of the NFL, no.
34:44I don't want to start any of these guys from that perspective.
34:48They're bi-week fill-ins for me. Probably touch on, like, the five dead zone running backs.
34:52Absolutely. Groups in the NFL right now. Encouraging, by the way, from D.K.
34:55Metcalf. Ten targets yesterday. It's a big number. Yeah.
34:58They were not efficient throwing the football down the field, but they were attempting to throw the football down the field.
35:04So DeKalen Metcalf had easily the most targets on the team.
35:07Ten. Next up was Roman Wilson at six. I don't feel great about starting a Steelers pass catcher.
35:11Not even D.K. Metcalf. Yeah. And Pittman led the team in receiving, but only three targets in the game.
35:17On all three of those. It's kind of disappointing.
35:19Rodgers attempted 40 passes. We would have liked to see more production.
35:22If you told me that he had... From the pass catch.
35:25Yes. He threw 40 passes. I would not expect eight points from D.K.
35:29And 8.8 from Pittman. I mean, they were losing for a big chunk of this game.
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37:19How about them? J-E-T-S. Jets. Never in doubt, fellas.
37:21Ageno Smith-led Jets, baby! Mike had confidence all offseason.
37:24A setback massager. J-E-T-S. Gino Smith is good to go.
37:26Yes. Look at this. Feel it, Mike. Go ahead.
37:29You've been carrying that water. That's right. J-E-T-S. Gino Smith's serviceable.
37:32If I told you J-E-T-S. Gino Smith was going to be 19 of 24.
37:36Shut this off. 19? You hold a button. There's a button that you hold down.
37:40Don't worry about it. That was too much. You need to focus.
37:43He absolutely smashed in this one. And for him, I mean, he smashed because he helped the guys that we wanted to help.
37:49We weren't starting J-E-E-T-S. Gino Smith anyways. Garrett Wilson.
37:52That's what we wanted to see. Six for 79 on seven targets.
37:55Nobody else had more than three targets on this team.
37:58Garrett Wilson, clear and far away. The number one wide receiver.
38:01Of course, we would love a little bit more than six for 79.
38:05But I will take that, especially seeing the way that this offense looked.
38:08I do not at all feel nervous or uncomfortable about Garrett Wilson.
38:11Field, I know we were a little, you, Mike, and I were more on the Gino Smith is serviceable.
38:17And we're okay with what that makes us feel about this Wilson value.
38:20How do you feel after one week understanding it was against the Titans?
38:24I believe the term nonplussed means you have no emotions.
38:26Okay. You don't feel anything. You're still nonplussed? I'm nonplussed.
38:29All right. This one talked to me. They actually have a good matchup this weekend.
38:33The Vikings, I'm sorry, the Packers defense, not great.
38:36No. No, that didn't go well. That did not go well.
38:39We'll talk about that in a minute. Well, I say that because they're playing them next weekend.
38:43Yes. So an opportunity for Gino to throw the football next weekend effectively.
38:47But the rubber will meet the road against more difficult matchups.
38:50I think there are four teams at the bottom of the NFL right now.
38:54Three with a fourth kind of hanging in the balance.
38:57Three teams that I think are like competing for Jeremiah Smith, number one overall player in the draft next year.
39:02Tennessee Titans. Yes. Miami Dolphins. Yes. Maybe the Atlanta Falcons.
39:05Not the Cardinals anymore. No, not the Cardinals anymore.
39:07Who's the other obvious one that I'm missing? Did you say the Titans?
39:11Titans. I said the... Gosh, just... Great radio. Dolphins.
39:13Titans, Dolphins. No Raiders. Browns. Thank you. Browns. There you go.
39:16Browns, Dolphins, and maybe the Falcons. Falcons, I got to see when they get the quarterback situation figured out.
39:21One thing with the Jets is they tried a couple wheel routes to Braylon Allen, who, by the way, split pass routes with Brees Hall in this game.
39:29And one was called back on a penalty. It was a touchdown.
39:32One was a near miss in completion. I'm like, throw the ball to Garrett Wilson.
39:37The guy's getting you down the field. Okay? Let him finish the job.
39:40Six for seven for 79 yards. Get him near the...
39:43I needed some touchdowns. Truth be told, the two guys that you invested in, though, in fantasy football, Brees Hall and Garrett Wilson...
39:49That's good. Yeah. Did not disappoint for you. Yeah.
39:52Brees Hall, 22 for one or two in a touchdown, plus two receptions.
39:55And good game script for them. So, Gino only attempted 24 passes.
39:58Yes. So, they came through pretty good considering. So, whenever we were talking this offseason about planning for this upcoming year ahead,
40:04we were like, yeah, you know, we're talking about, like, you know, wanted to preview every game, wanted to recap every single game.
40:11And we'd always, as we were talking about how to organize our thoughts, well, you know, remember, like, when the Titans play
40:17the Browns, like, we can keep it tighter on that one going forward.
40:20Yeah. After week one, if they play each other, maybe we can just not cover that game.
40:25Just not do it. Because full punt on the Titans.
40:28Yeah. Full punt. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This would have been a quick recap later.
40:32But it's a post-week one. We have, like, some details to get to in here.
40:36But no doubt about it. Even this game was not great.
40:39No. Reese, Garrett, good. Everything else. Yeah. Bad. Yeah, it was rough for the Titans.
40:43All right. So, really quickly here on the Titans.
40:45All right. And Chargers and Cardinals coming up next.
40:48Mike. Yeah. No, really. There wasn't. I mean, truly, for the Titans.
40:51Let's talk about it. It was a woeful day.
40:53Like, Cam Ward, very discouraging performance. You take over or under on his 20 pass attempts.
40:58Or 20 conclusions. Yes. Did he get over or no?
41:01Yeah, 19. 19 for 32. I actually think I had a decent day in red zone.
41:05We'll find out. Oh, yeah. I don't know. I don't know.
41:08Cam Ward, the only one to top 10 fantasy points in this one.
41:12Wondell Robinson, top five for 38. Carnell Tate, four for 38.
41:15Just none of this looked good. Running game didn't look good.
41:18It was awful. And they played the Eagles this weekend.
41:20It was a throwaway game. It feels like this is unfortunately going to be a...
41:24Long season for Cam makes a leap. But not the progress we wanted to see in week one.
41:29We were hoping we'd come out and see a different Cam Ward.
41:33Big leap forward didn't happen. Agreed. All right. That was the early slate.
41:36All of the 1 p.m. Eastern games. Now we're going to switch on over to the 4 p.m.
41:41games. Who's leading us off here? I have a question for you guys.
41:45Oh, yeah. Go ahead. What time zone is Los Angeles in?
41:48West Pacific. The PST. Are they like... Is the PST like 10 days behind us?
41:52Like a week behind us in timing? Why? What do you mean?
41:55Oh, because they played like... Did the Chargers and the Rams not realize the NFL season freaking began this week?
42:01There we go. Are you kidding me, Chargers? Yeah.
42:03What an embarrassing performance that was. Jim Harbaugh, who had never lost a game as a head coach in week one of the NFL.
42:10I'm hot on this one. That was terrible. You were hot and it didn't look like you were going to have to
42:16be hot after the beginning there with the connection with Justin Herbert and Ladd McConkie.
42:20Rad McConkie. Thank you. That's right. Yeah, red hot out of the gate for those guys, for sure.
42:25McConkie actually missed half of this game with a chest injury, but at 5 for 82 and a touchdown.
42:30So I think if you drafted him, even though he missed half this game, as long as he's able to play in
42:36a week or two, and we'll keep an eye on that.
42:39He might be fine for next week. We'll keep an eye on it.
42:42But you probably feel pretty good about that investment because that was a really good connection early on in this one.
42:48But that's really it for the Chargers passing game.
42:51Now, O'Marion Hampton did score a touchdown on the ground, but he was inefficient in this one.
42:55Kind of disappointing. He handled 12 to 16 running back carries, but he had, guys, zero targets.
43:00Zero targets. That won't always be the case. He'll probably get a couple, but that is a concern.
43:05They need to get an uptick in the passing game where he's not going to live up to his ADP.
43:10Can you help me here? I think my numbers may be off.
43:14Did he play 47% of the snaps? That sounds about right.
43:17Let's see. I'm at, oh no, 57. 57. I'm at 57.
43:2031 for Keaton Mitchell. Okay, I was off like 10% for him.
43:23Yeah. 59's not terrible, but we need passing game usage.
43:26It's an okay number, but there's no passing game usage.
43:29That was just a brutal offensive. It feels like we got gaslit by Mike McDaniel.
43:33Because we assumed that this offense would look like the Mike McDaniel offense that we've been envisioning in our head.
43:38I mean, it was woeful. It was pathetic. It was awful.
43:41Like, I was the anti-Hampton guy coming into the year.
43:44And even I can't say like, yeah, you know what?
43:47Like, I thought he was going to mash in week one.
43:50Keane Mitchell, 11 routes. Hampton 10, by the way.
43:52So, kind of an even split there. The guy I'm going to keep an eye on is David Njoku, though.
43:58Five targets, 58 yards. Maybe he gets back into the top 15 conversation tight end.
44:02We'll keep an eye on that. But a disappointing effort from them in a game we thought they should have crushed for sure.
44:08Actually, more storylines on the other side of this one for sure with Arizona.
44:12And not just because they won this game, but Trey McBride doing what he does.
44:16Nine for 95 and a touchdown on 13 targets.
44:18He was outstanding. Oh, it wasn't Drew Petzin that was making him good.
44:22Okay, got it. Yeah. It turns out it was Trey McBride.
44:25It was Trey McBride that was making Trey McBride good.
44:28One of the biggest surprises of the week. Kendrick Bourne.
44:30Eight for 75 in this one. Ran 29 routes.
44:33I will say this. Wait, the wide receiver, Kendrick Bourne?
44:36Yeah. Do they not have Marvin Harrison Jr.? I guess not.
44:39Because I would say hold your horses. He was still third in line here for routes here.
44:43And snaps. Michael Wilson actually led the team with 36 at seven targets.
44:47Marvin Harrison, he was out there for 33 routes, guys.
44:50But one catch for 33 yards in this one, it was rough.
44:53Is it over? What's that? Is it over? No.
44:55Okay. You say that. Can we hold this conversation?
44:58I don't think it's over. All right. I don't think it's over yet.
45:01Waning optimism. We'll talk about. They're going to be interesting guys to rank this week.
45:05So I think we'll get to that for sure.
45:08But it was still Wilson and then Harrison and then Bourne in terms of route run.
45:12But all three of them were out in the field.
45:15For pretty much the entire game. So we'll keep an eye on that.
45:19It was definitely a rough start. It's over. It's over.
45:21They play Seattle this week. That's going to be tough.
45:24Talk just about the running backs. This was very interesting.
45:27It doesn't feel good. Guys, the other part of this is, of course, the running backs.
45:31First drive of his NFL career. Jeremiah Love gets in the end zone.
45:35Yeah, he does, baby. That was about all we got out of him.
45:38Algier ended up with a snap lead in this one, 41-32.
45:41I'm not shocked by that. Remember, we thought Love would be limited in this game.
45:45Algier had the edge in carry, 17-11. In the passing game, though, Love did have an edge, which is a good sign.
45:5114-12 in routes, 4-2. In targets, I'm going to expect Love to take on more in Week 2.
45:56I think I'll maybe lead this team in carries.
45:59They'll probably be close. And, of course, he's already the better passing game option.
46:03So we're pointing in the right direction. But for now, probably a back-end RB2 for the moment.
46:07Love. For Jeremiah Love. He's going to work his way up.
46:10Tough matchup was beginning against Seattle as well. Yes, no doubt about it.
46:14And they do have a tough schedule. But for now, that's where he is.
46:18I think he's just going to slowly work his way up our ranks.
46:21But for now, that's where he falls. All right.
46:24Let's talk about Packers and Vikings, friends. Wow. How about that?
46:27This was a crazy game. Crazy. Which side do you start on this?
46:30Because the Vikings... I think the Packers are easy to just rip through because...
46:34They very are easy to rip through. Definitely with this one.
46:37So here's the thing. They're defenses either. Oh, Michael.
46:40Jordan Love. Had some garbage time in this one.
46:42387 yards, two touchdowns, and an interception. Most of it went to Christian Watson, guys.
46:46Christian Watson, unbelievable. You're welcome. A couple of your guys you liked a lot.
46:50He looked really good. Good call on that one field.
46:53Thank you, Mike. Where's that massager? Right here. That's right here.
46:56Christian Watson. Henry Watson. Yes. I think you had a couple others, too.
46:59You had a good start. We all have hits and misses.
47:02Six for 147 and two touchdowns. By the way, the stack in the DK Millie-Maker winning team.
47:07Really? Love to Watson. Yep. Here's what was important to me, to be serious about it.
47:11Daniel, this is your game. Go ahead. I just would say, is that the hope was this was kind of a condensed
47:17passing game and they were more pass aggressive. I know Love threw the ball a lot in the second half, but Christian
47:23Watson, that 81-yard touchdown was early in the game.
47:26This was not him mashing because they were down 20 points.
47:29Yep. However, Matthew Golden. 12 targets. That was mostly late.
47:32That was a lot in the second half. 25, 12 targets.
47:35You still love being able to see that. I am not trusting anybody in this rushing game.
47:39I don't care about any of the running backs.
47:42Is Marshall Lloyd good? No. I don't think so.
47:44Oh, that was the concern, right? All the hype around it was like, we don't know if he's good or not.
47:50It was. You know what that reminded me of?
47:53And it's different in the sense that one team kind of let a running back go by design.
47:57But remember the year that Alexander Madison took over for Dalvin Cook?
48:01And it was like, this guy's got some pedigree.
48:03They re-signed him this offseason. And then it's like, oh, Alexander Madison, not very good.
48:07Correct. I, we're only one game into the Marshawn Lloyd experience, but it was not impressive in week one.
48:12Yeah. And he got out snapped too. And he got maybe over again there.
48:16Zero catches. Yeah. No, no. Keep going. That's it.
48:19Chris Brooks played 37 snaps. Marshawn Lloyd played 30.
48:21He got out snapped. Not good. He's not even their clear number one right now.
48:25We had this conversation about a couple of other players.
48:28There is a legitimate chance that this is the highest scoring week for Christian Watson.
48:32Would you look to sell high potentially on him given the 32.7 fantasy points?
48:36Or are you holding tight because you're like, this is what he can be?
48:40I am a Christian Watson. Christian Watson. Go ahead.
48:42One more time. Christian Watson. I am a Christian Watson, optimist and believer.
48:46But anytime you have a game this big, you're going to at least field some offers.
48:50You got to field offers. Yeah. Let's look on the other side.
48:54Unfortunately, Kyler Murray got really banged up in this one.
48:56Left with a concussion. It looked like a pretty gnarly injury.
48:59We're really hoping for the best for him. As soon as we get more information, we will let you guys know.
49:05But Carson Wentz stepped in and did what we needed him to do to get the ball to Justin Jefferson.
49:11This is what we've been saying. That's it. We need Carson Wentz to save Justin Jefferson.
49:15That's what we've been saying. We've seen it all offseason and it happened.
49:18Eight for 92 and two touchdowns. 31.2 fantasy points.
49:21I don't care about anything else. The idea that we got 31 fantasy points for Justin Jefferson is it.
49:26TJ Hawkinson did also get in the end zone.
49:29Both of the running backs found their way into the end zone through the ground as well.
49:33But the conversation here is we got what we needed.
49:36We got what we needed, boys. Yeah, we absolutely did.
49:39It's funny. Wentz only threw for 133 yards and yet Jefferson had 92.
49:42That's okay. So I feel a little bit lucky in that regard.
49:46But Jefferson is so good. But, you know, we also said throughout the offseason or the question we asked was, can they
49:52support more than one fantasy relevant pass catcher? And at least if this game's an indication, the answer is no.
49:57I know TJ Hawkinson scored a touchdown. That was a good game for him.
50:01It was. Actually, 13.6 fantasy points. But no one else.
50:04I mean, the rest of the team besides those two, Jefferson and Hawkinson, combined for 23 yards and no touchdowns in this game.
50:10Jordan Addison, 26 routes, zero catches. So Jawan Jennings, also zero catches.
50:13So even with Kyle under center, I'm very worried about them supporting anyone else.
50:17Jefferson's the only clear starter in this offense. And that's despite the fact that both running backs found the end zone.
50:23Yeah, I think you said this, but wide receivers not named Justin Jefferson had three targets the entire game.
50:28So running backs feel dead zoning to me as well.
50:31Agreed. Yeah, they did split it. Kind of went how we thought it would.
50:35Yes, yes. I'm with you on that. All right, let's move ahead and talk about this next one, Mike.
50:40Your Eagles and the Commanders. The Eagles tried to blow it, but alas, they did not.
50:44They hung on and won it. You know, for the Eagles, Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley kind of did their thing.
50:50You know, nothing really to write home about that.
50:52Barkley didn't do much in the passing game. Actually lost three yards on his lone catch, but better days ahead for him in that area.
50:59We know that. Dallas Goddard, all that guy does is score touchdowns now.
51:03Seriously. He was one of the cheapest tight ends in drafts this year for some reason, but he got the job done.
51:09Only five targets. But again, they didn't have to throw the ball very much.
51:12They were ahead throughout basically this entire game. Only 25 pass attempts for Jalen Hurts.
51:17So Goddard got in the end zone twice. He's fine.
51:19Your guy, Dontavian Wicks, that's another one. You were talking up 73 yards and a touchdown.
51:24He only had four targets. I'm not going to carry it away there.
51:27And one of the reasons for that is that Makai Lemon actually ran 25 routes.
51:31So the leaders here were Smith at 27. He had 53 yards.
51:35It was a quiet day for him. He'll be fine.
51:37Wicks, 26. Lemon right there at 25. Kind of hilariously, Lemon had negative five yards.
51:41Negative five. Four targets, which is almost impossible. It is.
51:44That's almost impossible to do. He'll obviously make some plays and have some better games.
51:48But I think the only guys we're starting from the passing game here, Smith and Goddard's going to be – Goddard's a back-end tight end.
51:55Low-end tight end one. Yeah, he's a – Big talk this offseason about like this reshaping of the Eagles offense.
52:01And you felt it. Like it looked way different compared to where it was.
52:04He ends up with three passing touchdowns, including two late.
52:07Did you feel like it was a good fit for Jalen Hurts?
52:10I feel like – I didn't think they looked super sharp.
52:13I was a little underwhelmed, but it's also the first game.
52:16It's the first game. I thought it was a good matchup.
52:20I was concerned by the end of the game.
52:22Yeah? Okay. I didn't love it. I wouldn't say panic mode, but I felt a little – it felt a little better
52:28than last year, but they were also playing Washington.
52:30So – Yeah, the thing is the defense is so damn good that they're going to win a ton of games this year.
52:37But I would say the first week and I was like, all right, it's a work in progress.
52:42Yeah, I would agree with that. There was nothing that they can't – they certainly didn't look like Chicago.
52:47You know what I mean? Like they didn't look like they were going to come out and light it up.
52:52But that's also typical for Jalen Hurts, too. He just kind of matriculates, you know?
52:56With you talking about the defense just on the other side, the Eagles defense is so good.
53:01Are you worried about Jaden after what you saw in this one, or do you think that this is – the defense is just that good?
53:08Yeah, I mean, I think you are. We talked about it a little before the show, so I'll let you lead with that.
53:15Yeah, my test just is not nearly as favorable to Jaden Daniels as it was after his rookie season.
53:20After his rookie season, it felt like we were going to talk about Jaden Daniels and that – remember at the time
53:26the QBs were like Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, a lot of the guys that are still in that conversation right now.
53:33Jalen Hurts, and it was like, has Jaden Daniels already sort of pierced that bubble and he is in that mix?
53:38I would say that right now, waking up on the morning of September 14th, my answer is no.
53:43He ended up scoring two touchdowns or throwing two touchdown passes later in the game, so he ends up with, what, 17.66 fantasy points?
53:50He had a rushing touchdown – or had 31 rushing yards, I mean.
53:53So he was fine, not a great number, but remember his rookie season, it was a cheat code.
53:58Every week it was like, who cares? It doesn't matter who he's playing, he's going to have a monster week.
54:04Felt like he was a cheat code week in and week out because of his legs, and now with what we're seeing,
54:10and he's supposed to have a slightly better offense around him even with some of the pass catchers we would like to think.
54:16Stephon Diggs, although Diggs had a tough drive. Yeah, well, and again, playing a very good defense too.
54:21Yeah, of course. That's a part of that. Yeah, there's better days ahead perhaps for Jane Daniels.
54:26It feels funny to kind of pick on him when he had two touchdowns, no turnovers, had 30 rushing yards against a really good defense.
54:33It didn't feel great to me. Yeah, I agree it didn't feel great, but – Hated the play call and the two-point conversion as well.
54:39Yeah, oh yeah, no doubt. The running backs for the commanders.
54:42I think we have to take a look at this because we're wondering if this is also a dead zone or if
54:48someone could kind of leap into the running back two conversation.
54:52If somebody is going to do it, it looks like it's going to be Ja'Cory, Kroski, Merritt.
54:56Led the backfield with 33 snaps, ran it very well, which is what he did successfully last year.
55:01Pretty well. 16 for 63 and a touchdown. That's a good rushing line.
55:05He'll take that. Under four yards a carry. I mean, the efficiency is not great, but 16 carries and a touchdown.
55:10I mean, that's a good sign for sure. Rashad White played 27 snaps, only six behind, but only seven for 22 on the ground.
55:17They split pass routes. That is a reason for optimism.
55:20Now, he had negative seven yards on his lone target, did Kroski, Merritt.
55:23But the fact that he ran 14 routes and Rashad White ran 14 routes, he only had two targets, that's a good sign.
55:30We need more JCM involvement in the passing game if he's going to get in the running back conversation, Ktron Allen, the
55:36rookie, also played seven snaps, but it was pretty much a non-factor.
55:39So JCM stock up slightly, but not a running back two yet, but pointed in the right direction.
55:44I'm sure we'll talk about him on waiver wire.
55:46Antonio Williams, a rookie, four for 64 and a touchdown.
55:49But guys, fourth in line at wide receiver. Ten routes.
55:52Terry, Stevon Diggs, Diami Brown, all well ahead of him, so I'm not going to get carried away there.
55:57Terry McLaren, dud, but he was on the field a ton.
56:00Stevon Diggs is good. Nine targets. Four for 55 on nine targets, also scored seven.
56:04Yeah, Diggs in the flex conversation. McLaren, we're going to stick with him as a wide receiver three.
56:09They're the only pass catchers we're touching for now in Washington.
56:12Let's dive into the Raiders. I like how you led into that one.
56:16That's right, taking on the Miami Dolphins. Good win.
56:18Listen, the Raiders had a great win in this one.
56:21Ashton Gentry looked absolutely phenomenal. Biggest story of the day.
56:24Very different. He looked very different than he did last year.
56:2742 yards. Plus, he had six catches on six targets for 45 yards, two touchdowns.
56:3132.7 fantasy points. Michael Mayer, six for 32 in his replacement of Brock Bowers.
56:34He kind of did what we thought he would do without Brock Bowers being there.
56:39Honestly, what it felt like to me with Ashton Gentry was almost perfect game script.
56:43This team gets up. They get to run the ball a lot.
56:46It puts them in a really great spot. They get terrible defense.
56:49There's no Brock Bowers. And because there's no Brock Bowers, because it's not the rookie quarterback starting, I got a veteran.
56:55And you know what I'm good at as a veteran?
56:58Dumping the ball off to my safety valve as a running back is like putting my socks on in the morning for Kirk Cousins.
57:04And that's exactly what it looked like. I mean, Ashton Gentry and him looked fantastic together.
57:09He had a couple of really nice catches, obviously being able to get in the end zone.
57:13If this is what he's going to look like week in and week out, I would feel very different about Ashton Gentry.
57:19This is not what I think he will look like week in and week out.
57:23I do not think he will get this much receiving game work because once Brock Bowers is there, we're going to see
57:30him eat up a lot more of this target volume.
57:32I think a couple of things. This is not a sell high for me.
57:36Agreed. Maybe it's his best game of the season.
57:3932.7 fantasy points, but not putting it past him to get there again.
57:42Running backs are very scarce. They had a plan.
57:45Like this was mastery by Clint Kubiak and his staff.
57:47Crushed it. Ashton Gentry had room to run, which is wild.
57:50I got to check out how many yards before contact he had yesterday.
57:54I'm sure it was the most he's ever had in a game.
57:57Well, he had 13 rushing yards over expectation, so he was efficient.
58:00Yep. But on top of that, his six catches on six targets, the second receiving touchdown that he had is this play
58:06that we see it often, but it was designed.
58:09He actually, there were two backs on the field.
58:11Yeah. He gets motioned into the backfield, kind of works his way towards the slot and runs what we call an option route, right?
58:18Like he goes, he attacks the linebacker. If the linebacker's got inside leverage, he goes out.
58:22If he got outside leverage, he goes in. Easy money.
58:25I mean, it was like a walk-in touchdown for Ashton Gentry.
58:28This is an elite playmaker who at least has the scheme.
58:31I'm still not totally sold on the blocking because it was the Dolphins.
58:35Yes. But definitely a red hot start for Ashton Gentry.
58:37Yeah. That's what I wanted to, you know, remind.
58:40I mean, we might've had Gentry ranked fourth at running back if he was 100% healthy because he was facing Miami.
58:46This is what we expected. I mean, you're at home against this Miami defense.
58:49You should crush it. And he did. Even Mike Washington only had seven carries, almost six yards per carry.
58:55I mean, anyone who had an opportunity in this game was effective.
58:58Agreed. It is what it is. On the other side, is there anyone else that you want to talk about for the Raiders?
59:04Because that was it for me. Nope. Your boy Jack Besh scored a touchdown, but 13 routes, so we're not starting him.
59:10And we'll get some more news. We got some news late that Brock Bowers might not miss a ton of time.
59:16I played next week. Yeah. So if we get more information, obviously throughout the week, we will let you guys know that.
59:22Let's talk about the Dolphins, though, because I was disappointed in a major way.
59:26Devon A-chan, the one thing that was important to me in many ways.
59:29Maybe, okay, maybe you were some ways. I was disappointed in many ways.
59:33Devon A-chan only having five targets when they're trailing mostly the entire game is a problem.
59:37That means to me, kind of like we had said with Kyler Murray and Justin Jefferson coming into the season, like, is he going to understand the assignment?
59:45Malik Willis needs to understand the assignment. Get the football to your running back at or behind the line of scrimmage.
59:51So we talked about this on text last night, because I was a little less discouraged by the receiving work for A-chan.
59:57Five targets, map that out over the course of the season, less than where he was at last year.
60:02But he could easily hit 65 catches. Yeah, it's a very healthy number.
60:0619% target share. I think he was maybe at 21 last year.
60:09I mean, that's pretty close. It's just that he was amongst the most efficient runners in the league over the past few
60:15years, and he only had 36 rushing yards and 11 carries.
60:18Wasn't great. That wasn't good. Yeah. Felt like the entire offense didn't look good, to be honest.
60:23Well, there were a couple of nice plays. Yeah, there were a couple of nice plays by some rookie wide receivers.
60:28Yeah, Caleb Douglas got Caleb Douglas 5 for 94 in this game and ran a ton of routes.
60:33Waver wire. Something there. Yeah, waiver wire for sure.
60:36That's about it for the passing game. But, I mean, Malik Willis did what we hoped you would do if you took him as a sleeper.
60:43In fantasy, 220 passing yards and ran for 39 in a touchdown.
60:46Yep. Totally fine. I mean, that's what your... The thought right was, I'm going to take him as a late sleeper.
60:52Stop it. On behalf of everybody that's listening, we did not want positive...
60:55And there's no offense. We don't care about Malik Willis.
60:58Okay. We want Devon Achan. That's fair. I mean, yeah, I want Devon Achan too.
61:02But, I mean, if you took that flyer, that late flyer, that was the goal, right?
61:07Like, hey, this guy could Justin Fields' way to top 10, top 12 numbers.
61:11Let's put out a poll. Are you more excited to see Devon Achan or Malik Willis?
61:15Look, if I had a choice, I'd pick Achan.
61:17I agree with you. Yes, of course. That poll will run until tomorrow, by the way.
61:22Anything else you guys want to talk about with the Dolphins other than potentially throwing a couple of darts at those wide receivers tomorrow.
61:28Ah, nice segue. On to what we're doing into the next one.
61:32Guys, almost... I almost... My prediction was Dart would lead all quarterbacks at fantasy points in week one.
61:37But Josh Allen and Caleb Williams messed it up.
61:39Dart was almost there. He was outstanding. I mean, outstanding.
61:4223 of 29, 230 yards, three touchdowns in this one.
61:44And added 54 yards on 11 carries as well.
61:47He was terrific. Perfect. He attempted 29 passes in this game.
61:50Malik Nabors, who we didn't even know if he was going to play, ran around on 24 of the 29.
61:55A really good sign. Nine targets in the game, 69 yards.
61:58He's back in as a clear lineup block. Good to go moving forward.
62:02Very encouraging. And if we were low on someone from the Giants offense, not everyone was, but maybe I was.
62:07Isaiah Likely was terrific. Eight for eight. Caught all eight targets, 78 yards, two touchdowns.
62:12He only played 50% of the snaps. Don't even worry about that.
62:15He ran 23 routes in this one. He was exceptional.
62:18So that's the pass catchers, the passing game. The running backs were very interesting to me.
62:22Cam Scadaboo and Devin Singletary basically were a committee.
62:24There was no Tyron Tracy. Played two snaps in this game.
62:27Fumbled. He fumbled and that was it. He's inactive next week.
62:30Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, Najee Harris will probably play next week.
62:3441 snaps for Scadaboo, 25 for Singletary. But Scadaboo did all his damage on the ground.
62:3918 for 81 and a touchdown, which was great.
62:41Nine routes, zero targets. Devin Singletary rarely did anything on the ground, but 18 routes.
62:45Doubled him up, had four catches, 22 yards, and caught a touchdown.
62:49So very clear what they're doing there. Scadaboo is the runner.
62:52Singletary is out there in passing situations. That's concerning for Scadaboo's fantasy output.
62:55You're really going to be counting on high-end rushing production.
62:58You need like Derrick Henry rushing production if this guy's going to get into the running back one conversation.
63:03Hopefully that role evolves, but for now it wasn't there.
63:06And then on the Dallas side, not much to say here.
63:09I mean, it's kind of, you know, obviously. It's the same four guys.
63:12George Pickens and Joke Farterson disappointed. Jake Ferguson, underwhelmed.
63:15They'll be fine when they throw the ball a little more.
63:18Pickens is going to be fine. Ferguson's going to be probably a fringe tight end one.
63:22CeeDee Lamb had a good game. Javante Williams had a very good game, but it was kind of what we expected.
63:28There's really not much to say about the Dallas offense other than keep doing what you've been doing.
63:33I'm really, I'm pumped for, by the way, we talked a lot about this Dallas defense.
63:37On paper, they were supposed to look a lot better.
63:40How did you feel about them? Or did you feel like this was Jackson Dart just like looking like a superstar?
63:46I'm going to go with not better. I mean, Jackson Dart looked awesome, but I'm going to go with not better by the Cowboys.
63:52Yeah, it was a really slow start. They scored on what?
63:55They had two drives in the second half and scored a touchdown on.
63:59Both. They was just too, like they couldn't, the defense couldn't stop the Giants.
64:03I mean, they just, again, they used the word twice now in this show, but matriculated the ball so slowly.
64:08It was a very slow pace of that Giants.
64:11And it was, it was impressive. I mean, that's a good way to protect the defense.
64:15Shout out Matt Nagy for week one. They crushed it.
64:18They crushed it. Very impressive. Let's move ahead and look at Monday night football.
64:22We got a big game tonight. Broncos taking on the Chiefs in Arrowhead.
64:25Going back to the name Arrowhead, I believe, at the new stadium.
64:29I believe it's no longer whatever they called it some random sponsor.
64:32It was, it was a sponsor. Now it's not.
64:34Oh, it used to be called Patrick Mahomes Stadium, but they're like, hey, Mike, that's a good funny right there.
64:40Yeah. Hey, there you go. Way to go, Michael.
64:42All right. Broncos and Chiefs. We got Kenneth Walker as lineup blocks with Rashi Rice, Jalen Waddell, and Cortland Sutton.
64:48All three of them. No Bo Nix as a lineup block.
64:51No Patrick Mahomes as a lineup block, Mike. No quarterbacks.
64:53I wrote about that in the playbook. Tough, tough matchups here.
64:56Mahomes hasn't had a good game against Denver since 2022.
64:59And I think Nix, if I'm not mistaken, similar against the Chiefs.
65:02So, guys, they're both QB twos. But again, you probably, your lineup's set.
65:06Yes. You're not doing that. I don't know if we have much to report in week one on this one.
65:12We previewed it. And, you know, you know who you're starting.
65:15I would say so as well. Any lineup decisions tonight?
65:17Nope. Just need 19 fantasy points from Rashi Rice.
65:20I need a big, I need a big Rice game for one specific reason.
65:24And that is our fantasy-focused knockout league. Yes. I had an ugly week.
65:27Tough week. I would have thought CMC getting 13 would be my best scorer of the week so far.
65:32Everyone else is in the single digits. Absolute disaster.
65:35Rashi could save me tonight. We'll see. Yikes. All right.
65:38That's going to do it for tonight. Tomorrow, we got Monday Night Football Recap.
65:41I'll be gone. Field's not going to be here.
65:44Yeah, I'm gone. One day I'll miss. And then we'll be doing Waver Wire, of course.
65:48Yes, I'm going to Miami. Flying to Miami. One day.
65:51Monte Carlo. Yeah. That's it. With the lay flat stuff, right?
65:54You can get down there to Miami real quick.
65:56Travel didn't go so well for the Rams, so I'm just going to stay local.
66:01Yeah. All right. That's going to do it for us today.
66:04Love you guys. Thank you so much for hanging out with us.
66:07Peace. Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
66:10You deserve it. Have fun watching Monday Night Football.
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