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0:44My name is Daniel Dopp, and we had some football last night.
0:47We're going to dive into that. It's going to be a lot of fun to recap Wednesday night football.
0:52Is it going to be fun? That part's not going to be fun.
0:56The fun part is going to be the week one preview, the storylines we're going to dive into today.
1:01It's going to be a blast getting into everything.
1:04But really quickly, before we do all that, a couple of logistics really quickly.
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1:45Sweet. That didn't belong in like a league in like Colorado or Texas.
1:49By the way, you said second screen experience for Eric Moody.
1:52I actually watched a second screen experience of my own last night.
1:55You did? I watched Grey's Anatomy during the game because every player kept getting hurt that I felt like it was only appropriate.
2:02Was that a crossover? That was good. Players were showing up.
2:05I was trying to learn something about what's going on.
2:08Congratulations, Field. Isn't Grey's Anatomy based in Seattle? Yes.
2:10Yeah, so Grey's Anatomy, Hospital in Seattle. Yes. So Christina, our producer, confirms that is accurate.
2:15I watched like the first like 11 seasons of Grey's Anatomy, but now that they're on to like- It's McDreamy, right?
2:20Yes. Yeah. Steamy and McDreamy. People don't know that before you worked here at ESPN, you were just McDreamy.
2:26That's, yes, that's what I did in life. Yes.
2:28Oh, many hats. No comment. Let's talk about Wednesday night football, to be honest.
2:32And we will hit the Brock Bowers news right after Wednesday night.
2:36Yes, agreed with that. It's a big kick in the- I love watching football, but you can probably miss me with Wednesday
2:42night football from here on out, guys. Wasn't really great.
2:44A lot of injuries, unfortunately, that really derailed this game.
2:47Let's start right off the top because right off the rip, unfortunately, Sam Darnold goes down.
2:52And that, we thought, was going to have a major impact on what happened.
2:56Turned out JSN is still pretty legit at football, even without him.
2:59How do you feel about what Sam Darnold's missing time is going to do to this offense field?
3:04Yeah, so we're talking at 10.02 a.m. on Thursday morning.
3:07We'll see whether we get more information. I'm assuming we'll get more information today.
3:11The good news is that Mike McDonald, the coach of the Seahawks, after the game last night said, we got some great
3:17news on Sam, which I, reading between the lines there, I think there was an initial fear that, like, this might be serious.
3:23It's a hip injury. Could this be the kind of thing that derails Sam's season before it really gets going?
3:29Not the case. No fractured hip. He sounds like he could miss some period of time.
3:33They do have 10 days before their next game, but it doesn't sound like worst-case scenario.
3:38We don't know how long he's going to miss, but I think we can agree that until Sam Darnold returns, while JSN
3:44did absolutely mash last night, eight catches, 122 yards and a touchdown, what a player he is.
3:49He's awesome. The downside of JSN is decreased a little bit without Sam Darnold.
3:53For sure. Like, the touchdown equity for this offense, they scored just one last night.
3:57I'm not saying JSN's going to be a wide receiver 17 for me in my Week 2 rankings, but when the tier
4:03is either three or four players, JSN plus Jamar Chase, Pukunikua, and maybe Amon Ross St.
4:08Brown, I think it's fair to say that going into next week, my confidence would probably be the lowest of JSN out of those four guys.
4:15Yeah, no doubt. And I think that if you look at the Seahawks offense going into, even to yesterday, or going into
4:21the season, you were probably only starting two guys.
4:23You were starting JSN, of course, and you were probably starting Janarian Price.
4:27I don't think that changes going forward. The matchup's going to be lighter as well.
4:31I will say this about Drew Locke. 16 of 22, 187 yards, had that touchdown to JSN.
4:36JSN did a lot of that work. He did.
4:39Short pass, made a great play. He was fine.
4:41He was serviceable. But if you look back at his 24 career games in the NFL for Drew Locke, just 14.9 fantasy
4:47points per game, he's reached 16 points once in his last 10 games.
4:51And I know it's a quarterback side. He does that a little bit with his legs, but that shows you that he's not putting up enormous passing numbers.
4:59I don't think that's going to change in the Seattle offense.
5:02It's going to try to run the ball. And as you saw last night, their defense is outstanding.
5:07It's amazing. With all those injuries, they're still amazing.
5:09Yeah, game script is going to be in their favor going forward.
5:13So who would you say their next two games are?
5:15He said they're a lot. Arizona and Washington, both on the road.
5:19They're probably going to be ahead or competitive. They're going to be able to run the football.
5:24I know we'll talk about Janarian Price in a second, but I think it's beneficial for him.
5:28And again, at the end of the day, it doesn't change a lot in terms of who you're sitting or starting in this offense.
5:35JSN's locked in. Price, you're probably starting. That's it.
5:38Let's talk about Jadarian Price. I was going to say, yeah, how did you guys feel about him?
5:43Because when I watched Janarian Price out there, he clearly looked like the better of the backs.
5:47He even got a little bit of passing game work.
5:50But there was a commitment to get everybody the ball.
5:53Do you want me to give you those numbers first?
5:56He played half of the snaps in there. He played 24 snaps, 21 for George Halani.
6:00That's 44%. And then Emmanuel Wilson, who they liked in short yardage, I guess, came in and played three snaps in the game.
6:07The positives, I would say, for Price, though, in terms of that usage is he was the lead ball carrier.
6:12He had 10 carries. Halani had eight. But when it was early downs and they wanted to run the football generally, they wanted to lean toward him.
6:20He did outplay Halani in that area also. And this one's a big one.
6:24Routes run. 11 for Janarian Price. Not a big number, but it was number one at running back.
6:29It's not like they leaned heavily on Halani. He ran seven routes, just one for Emmanuel Wilson.
6:34So that, plus that was his first game. They're going to go into game two.
6:38The run defense is going to be easier. I think this was a point in the right direction for him.
6:43I think no matter what side of the Jadarian Price argument you were on coming into the year, you could make the
6:49case for or make the case against. Yes, you could.
6:52The good news is he looks awesome. The guy's a very talented runner.
6:56No surprise there. We knew that coming into this year.
6:59Next week when they play Arizona, he might get 20 carries.
7:02He might turn those 20 carries into 120 yards and a touchdown.
7:05The case against him was, is he going to have any passing game involvement?
7:09Well, he had six receiving yards last night. So a minimal role in the receiving game compared to guys that we are
7:15profiling as top 15, maybe top 10-ish running backs.
7:18He's going to have to be an elite, elite rusher to have anywhere close to that value going forward.
7:23I will say that Mike brought the Emanuel Wilson point up.
7:26That was annoying. Like at one point, the Seahawks had the ball second and one at like the four-yard line, an opportunity to punch it in.
7:33And Emanuel Wilson was on the field. They ended up getting called for a false start.
7:38So it changed the complexion of the situation right on the spot.
7:41But I would like to see Seattle be a little bit more committed to Jadari and Price in those gotta-have-it situations.
7:47But I would say still like a, I think he enters, well, next week will be a different story.
7:52I would say generally after one game, if you said to me, how would you value Jadari and Price?
7:58I would say he's right on the borderline of a low-end RB2 or a strong flex.
8:02I am. I'm left feeling optimistic in part because I think with week one, I felt like they had a game plan
8:08that they knew they wanted to distribute the football.
8:11And when you saw Jadari and Price get the ball, he showed that he was clearly the best of the three guys in that backfield.
8:18We already knew that. That wasn't a question. But when you look at it now moving forward, do we decide, okay, now we saw it in week one.
8:26Do we decide to give maybe just a couple more snaps to Jadari and Price?
8:30Do we see it slowly start to expand over the next couple weeks?
8:33I don't think it'll be a big jump, but I'm interested to see if that slowly starts to increase.
8:39Hopefully it expands, and then we just hope that once Zach Charbonnet is back, it doesn't retract.
8:44Correct. Yeah. Field, how many NFL plays, how many NFL snaps do teams usually average?
8:48Roughly? Roughly? I think we concluded the answer was like 62.
8:51Yeah, 62, 64 in that range. Well, Seattle only ran 47 plays last night.
8:55So that also is not going to continue, which is why all the numbers, like they had 24 pass attempts, they had
9:0122 total carries, two of which were by Drew Locke.
9:04So in a normal game, there'd be about 15 more plays.
9:07That probably gets Jadari and Price to maybe an extra target, maybe five more carries, you know, and that looks a lot better.
9:13So I wouldn't be totally concerned about the overall counting stats for him.
9:17I think it's a good sign kind of where he fell in the totem pole, like going forward.
9:22My main concern is like when Charbonnet comes back.
9:24I do think they're going to split it. But we'll talk about that.
9:28That was a draft season conversation right now, at least for the next few weeks.
9:32You could feel good starting price. Feeling good about that.
9:35I am feeling concerned, unfortunately, other side of the ball.
9:38A.J. Brown left the game dealing with a high ankle sprain.
9:41We saw him get banged up. Kind of took like a knee right to the ankle when there's a defender landed on it, unfortunately.
9:48A couple weeks, I would assume without A.J. Brown.
9:50Obviously, we don't know an official timeline, but when you just think about historically high ankle sprains and what it means, you're
9:56probably thinking of a couple weeks you're going to be without A.J.
10:00Brown. How is that going to impact Drake May and this offense and the way you guys are looking at them?
10:06On the plus side for the Patriots and Drake May, matchups get easier, right?
10:09It's probably hard to find a matchup as difficult as Seattle.
10:13Maybe Houston would be in that same territory when they play Houston later this season.
10:17That being said, I mean, this Patriots wide receiver room completely changed when A.J.
10:21Brown was off the field. Going into next week when they play home to Pittsburgh, my snap reaction is nobody from the
10:27Patriots wide receiver or tight end room is going to be a lineup block for me.
10:31That's my snap reaction when I think about this because what we saw last night, and Mike, you can highlight this a
10:37little bit more, is that Romeo Dobbs was out there when they were passing, but he also was not, at least at
10:44the beginning of the game, playing as much as a player who now makes $17 million per year you would think would be playing.
10:50Yeah, I talked about this throughout earlier this week.
10:53I look forward to week one to get a good feel of like snap counts and routes and that kind of like usage for these players.
11:00Probably the biggest surprise last night was Matt Collins clearly running ahead of Romeo Dobbs.
11:04Now, to your point, when they were running the ball, Collins was out there when they were throwing, Dobbs was out there.
11:10He still ran 28 routes. That was second on the team to only Pop Douglas, who ran 32.
11:15He would have been third had A.J. Brown not got injured, but it's not a it's not a role that's going to
11:22lead to any sort of fantasy relevance. That's a bad sign.
11:25They paid him a lot of money to come in and you're running behind Matt Collins.
11:29I'll do respect to Matt Collins. He has a role and he was targeted a lot actually last season.
11:34Frankly, he might be targeted a lot over the next couple of weeks.
11:38So I agree with you. I'm not going to touch any of these guys.
11:42I think that you can look if Brown didn't get hurt.
11:45I would have came in here and said, look, if you took a late flyer and Dobbs cut him like it's just not going to happen.
11:52He's not going to play enough. He said he had three targets last night, even with Brown missing half the game and didn't have a single catch.
12:00Bad drop. Yeah, bad, bad, bad. Bad, but with Brown out, I mean, he in theory should be their number one receiver.
12:06I mean, again, he still ran 28 routes. So I think you could hang tight if you want.
12:11You can cut him loose if you want to go out and have a lot of good waiver options.
12:16But I think it's possible he's going to be on the flex radar.
12:20It's likely he'll be on the flex radar next week.
12:23But certainly not a lineup block. I wouldn't go that far.
12:26Tough night for Drake May. I mean, just bad, like real life story bigger than fantasy, in my opinion, because he has
12:32like Drake May has got to get it going against good teams.
12:35Just period fact. End of story. This guy who nearly won MVP last season.
12:39He was not the MVP last night. And this is now five straight concerning performances from Drake May against quality teams.
12:45Trevor Lawrence needs to get 9.83 fantasy points for Mike and I to win that week one board bet.
12:51Let's get to the news on Brock Bowers, though, Daniel.
12:53Let's talk about it. Unfortunately, we got news yesterday from Adam Schefter.
12:57Brock Bowers underwent a surprise surgery, guys, that I don't think any of us knew anything about.
13:01We are told he's going to miss a game or two for what it's worth.
13:06Unfortunately, this is major news for us because we had no idea coming into week one that this was going to be
13:12a thing they're taking on the Miami Dolphins here.
13:14We're going to throw up Adam Schefter's tweet on the screen as well, but it really kind of shuts down the number
13:20of people you're looking to play in this game.
13:23We'll talk about the game in a moment. But Brock Bowers underwent.
13:26Sorry, I got this tweet here. Underwent a meniscus trim Tuesday in Dallas.
13:30Expected to miss a game or two. Sources told Rap Sheet and Schefter got banged up in a little a little bit in camp.
13:37That's it. I'm trying to find silver linings here.
13:39You know, a game or two is important. We'll see whether it ends up being a game or two.
13:45But Adam Schefter does not just tweet things for like, you know, for craps and giggles.
13:49He does it because he believes it's good information.
13:51Dan Cooper is the he's the go to guy for knees.
13:55This is Patrick Mahomes surgeon. He's as good as it gets.
13:58So, you know, one or two games to me still feels in play for Brock Bowers.
14:02Other than when the guy you drafted gets hurt on like the opening drive.
14:06This is like about as close to like this is a gigantic kick in the pants.
14:11Right. Brock Bowers. And I made the case for hot take.
14:14Like he's going to set the NFL tight end single season receiving record.
14:17And we were drafting him as a top 20 to 25 player.
14:21And now you're not going to have him to begin the season sucks.
14:24Really sucks. That's a gigantic, gigantic, gigantic blow. Yeah, it absolutely is.
14:28It's unfortunate. I think if there's probably a handful of people still drafting tonight.
14:31I still think he's tight end to a game or two.
14:35Totally agree. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of pushback when I put that on social.
14:39But Loveland, I mean, I guess you can make a case.
14:42But I'd still go Bowers. You gotta see it.
14:45His, yeah, Bowers can get to that level that maybe no one else at tight end can get to.
14:50So I stand by him as tight end two behind McBride.
14:53I will say this. If you have Bowers and Michael Mayer still out there, just scoop him up and file him.
14:59And that's the one, maybe that's the silver lining.
15:01The only silver lining. You can plug him in.
15:04There was four games last year that Brock Bowers was out and Mayer played.
15:08Listen to these numbers. You tell me if these are good for a tight end.
15:12Or honestly, a wide receiver. 93% of the snaps.
15:1525.5% target share. That's huge. Enormous number. I mean, that's in the vicinity of what Bowers is at generally.
15:20He filled right in. One of those games was a 31-0 loss where they had a ridiculous 28 offensive snaps.
15:25I don't know if you remember that they got blown out by the Chiefs and the offense was not in the field.
15:32So that was obviously a throwaway game. The other three games, so he averaged 13.9 fantasy points per game at least 16 in two of the three games.
15:39They're also facing Miami this week, which should be a great matchup for the Raiders to get off to a good start.
15:46So Michael Mayer, I'm at tight end 12. You could plug him right in, though, if you had Bowers.
15:51I mean, he's out there on a ton of waiver wires.
15:54I know people were scooping him up yesterday, but you can get him and plug him in.
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17:14I'm going to do, I'm going to ask Daniel about the Raiders running backs here in a second.
17:19But I'm going to do a PSA. So I'm letting our production team know.
17:23Can we please clip what I'm about to say in like five seconds?
17:27A lot of people have been asking us after the Brock Bowers report from Adam Schefter and Ian Rappaport.
17:32Why can't I put him on IR? We have said this many times before.
17:36It's worth doing it again to start this year.
17:38Designations on the ESPN Fantasy app are controlled. We outsource them to our friends over at Rotowire.
17:43They do a great job. But until a team makes a move or announces a player to be out, whatever reporting there
17:49is, that player is not going to be ruled out.
17:52And that's just how it has always been. I know this is not a thing that happens often.
17:57But there was a time when Ben Roethlisberger was reported to be out.
18:01And then he ended up playing in the game on Sunday for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
18:05The problem is that while our reporters are amazing, until a team comes out and says, this guy is out, like when
18:11the Falcons said recently, Michael Penix Jr. is going to be inactive in week one.
18:15And so if you have Penix, you can put him in your IR spot.
18:19Jordan Tyson's been placed on IR. You can put him in your IR spot.
18:23I know it's something that frustrates people. It's a very fine line.
18:26I get it. But until Brock Bowers is ruled out by the Raiders and their head coach, like two hours before this
18:33report came out, said we expect to have all of our guys on the field on Sunday, until they make that ruling,
18:39as things presently stand within our game, Brock Bowers is not IR eligible.
18:42I get why you're frustrated. That's how it goes.
18:45None of the three of us can make that change by ourselves.
18:48That is how things are. We will see if things adjust at some point.
18:52But until Brock Bowers is ruled out, he is not going to be IR eligible.
18:56If you do want to tweet at us and let us know how frustrated you are, at Mike Clay NFL is our Twitter handle.
19:03Trust me, I've already gotten those because I address this on social and people are very mad at me about it.
19:09Still not. I'm like, direct it to the Raiders.
19:11Like, they're the ones that said everybody's playing. Exactly.
19:14If they said Bowers is out, then he'd be out.
19:17Last thing really quickly, Michael Mayer's $2,700 if you want to use him in DraftKings this week at the tight end spot
19:23is a really great punt play to be able to save some money and go somewhere else with some bigger money in your roster.
19:30All right, let's talk about the running backs. Mike, what does this mean?
19:33Did this do anything for your Ashton Gentry projection with where we think he's going to be?
19:38Not really. I mean, maybe he gets an extra target out of this.
19:42I think they'll try to distribute them again. Michael Mayer, his target, Chairman Bowers, has been out, has been the same.
19:48Plus, they brought in Ian Thomas too. That guy, you know, could see a target or two.
19:52Not a big number, but there's ways they can spread these out.
19:56I don't think it's going to affect Ashton Gentry a lot.
19:59We've talked about this throughout the week. This is a great matchup for the Raiders running back.
20:03So, we expect Gentry to be active. You guys just buried the lead.
20:07He practiced in full yesterday. Yeah, practiced in full.
20:10So, we're not really worried about it. It's possible maybe they are like, you know what?
20:14Mike Washington's been playing well. He had the injury.
20:17Maybe we roll him back a little bit from where we might normally be.
20:21Not really concerned about that, but even if it's 80% of normal Ashton Gentry, you're going to start him.
20:26He's a terrific player. He's going to play a lot regardless, and it's a great matchup against Miami.
20:31He can be limited and score two touchdowns in a game where this should be one of the Raiders' best games of the season.
20:38Certainly, their highest winning percentage chance at home against this Dolphins team.
20:41So, it should be all systems go for Ashton Gentry.
20:44You have him. You're firing him up without pause.
20:46And he's the only running back that you're even considering.
20:49I'm not playing Mike Washington Jr. anywhere unless there's a reason why he's...
20:53The Mike Washington factor is how much he detracts from the value.
20:56Correct. If at all of Ashton Gentry. Exactly. No standalone value there.
20:59Insurance. Elite insurance running back, but you're not starting him.
21:02You saw on the lineup lock screen that Miami has won.
21:05It's Devon Achan. Unless you guys feel differently, there's no Dolphin that I am intrigued by playing in week one.
21:11And hopefully Malik Willis plays well. But otherwise, not trusting a Dolphins wide receiver.
21:15Yeah, I'm going to be watching those two rookie third-round receivers closely, though.
21:18Chris Bell and Caleb Douglas. I love that they are not messing around.
21:22Some teams are like, ah, they're rookies. And Bell missed a lot of time at the ACL.
21:27We're going to bury them. No way. They're listed as starters.
21:30And they're getting the vote of confidence that if they're the best receivers, they're going to play.
21:35And Chris Bell, I mean, as you know, he could have been a first-round pick.
21:39So, if you're in a deep league and he's still out there on waivers, not a bad guy to add to the end of your bench.
21:46Most important thing to watch in this game is the same thing that we're watching in a handful of other games.
21:52How often does Malik Willis put the ball in the hands of Devon Achan through the air?
21:57If he has three targets, it's going to be a problem, and we're going to start panicking majorly after week one.
22:03Yep. All right. Who you guys got in this game?
22:05We're going to pick every game, by the way.
22:08The Raiders. Raiders. Yeah, we got game picks. I think they're all...
22:11Are they not up there? Oh, I thought we...
22:14I picked the Raiders in this one. There they are.
22:17Oh, there we go. Oh, I guess I picked the Dolph...
22:20Oh, no, I picked the Raiders too. Yeah, thank you.
22:22Yeah, I'm going to forget my picks. You guys can just flash mine.
22:26There we go. Love that. Three for three on the Raiders.
22:29Oh, dang. Okay, thank you. Producers helped us on that one.
22:32Thank you. The Dolphins. All right, let's move forward here to the game tonight.
22:36Got a big one. Yeah, bring it. We got a game.
22:39I guess it's tonight slash tomorrow, depending on which continent you're in.
22:43The Los Angeles Rams and the San Francisco 49ers go down under.
22:46There are four lineup blocks in this game. Christian McCaffrey, Kieran Williams, Puka Nakua, and Devontae Adams.
22:51I'm not doing it. No, you've got to do it now.
22:54Come on. That was too good. I'm bad at this.
22:57Look, I had to do it as a punishment last year, and it was awful.
23:01Yeah. Mike failed before he even got away. I know my lane.
23:04Did you guys ever watch the show Summer Heights High?
23:07One of my favorite shows of all time. Great comedy back in the day.
23:11Yes, this game is being played in Australia. I'll stop speaking in an Australian accent.
23:15You did a great job. It wasn't bad. But yes, the game will be played tonight in the States, tomorrow in Australia.
23:21That's right. This is a huge one. Did you see the thing about Raheem Morris, how he's going to miss his whole birthday?
23:28His whole birthday. Yeah. Because he's traveling. The time change.
23:30Shut up. So he's literally leaving the day before his birthday, and when they get there, it will be the next day.
23:37The best part is, he left when he was 49, and by the time he got there, he missed his 50th birthday.
23:43He's so committed to the 49ers that he refused to turn 50.
23:46I didn't know that part. That's funny. I love that.
23:49All right. So yeah, you saw the four lineup blocks.
23:52No surprise there with the Rams. I am interested in Blake Corum to see how much of a role he plays tonight.
23:58I say that because our friend Adam Schefter, who's amongst the most tapped in people in anything in life, did draft Blake Corum and Kyron Williams.
24:05He drafted Blake Corum early in the War Room League, which I think his thought process was just, I want all of the Rams backfield every game.
24:13It'll be productive in aggregate. It's a 16-team league, so running backs fly off the board there.
24:17But obviously, I have my eyes on Blake Corum.
24:20But let's talk about, to me, I think the most interesting thing, Mike, of this game is George Kittle, who's off the injury report tonight.
24:27Are we cranking him up? I am not cranking him up.
24:30I have him at tight end 17. It's just hard to imagine him missing so much time, being in doubt to even
24:36travel for this game, and then playing a full complement of snaps.
24:40I know, you know, look, it might be a simple, we know what tight end is.
24:44Like, he could just have two targets and catch a touchdown and end up tight end 11.
24:49Eli Rarity. Yeah, exactly. So, look, if you're in a really tight spot at tight end and you want to take a shot at it, fine.
24:56But I would stay away from this one. He's tight end 17 for me.
25:00I'm not going to start him, and I'm certainly not going to start Jake Tonjes either.
25:04We are keeping an eye on him in case Kittle was out.
25:08If Kittle is a surprise inactive, Tonjes, you can file in.
25:11He averaged just a hair under 12 fantasy points per game in place of Kittle last season, which would have ranked eighth over the full season.
25:18So that's the only path I'm considering. A Niners tight end this week is if Kittle's out, Tonjes could be filed in.
25:24That's it. Our rankings all reflect a similar value for George Kittle.
25:28I think another question for the 49ers offense is, are you playing a wide receiver tonight?
25:32I think at some point this season, like this 49ers wide receiver room is so old, right?
25:37Mike Evans, Debo Samuel, Christian Kirk, who's on IR.
25:39But that's three very tenured receivers. With Dejan Shribling as like the man waiting in the wings.
25:44He generated all the hype during the preseason. I just don't think that Shribling is going to be a thing coming out of the chutes here.
25:51I think it's going to take some time before Shribling plays a meaningful role.
25:55And while Mike Evans was not exactly the most exciting target in drafts, worth noting he does make $17 million a year now.
26:02And the Niners have been saying all the right things about Mike Evans.
26:05I have him as wide receiver 36 in this game.
26:08Prior years when you're playing against the Rams, you were concerned about the pass rush, but you were not concerned about the cornerback room.
26:15Now you are, as the Rams imported the Chiefs cornerback room.
26:18And they now have Trent McDuffie and Jalen Watson playing behind, well, not Aaron Donald, but Miles Garrett and the rest of that outstanding front.
26:25So a tough matchup here tonight. Yes. I've got Mike Evans as wide receiver 36.
26:29Debo Samuel as wide receiver 43. And Dejan Shribling right on the border of my top 50.
26:34Do you guys agree or disagree that if you're playing a Niners wide receiver tonight, it is Mike Evans?
26:39I agree with Evans. I have Shribling second, but it's close.
26:42I think that'll be a close call. I'm pumped to see Shribling though.
26:46One of the most anticipated players of the week, I would say.
26:49I'm nervous for all kinds of outcomes. In the sense that like, if he plays every single snap and has 12 targets,
26:55I'm like, damn it, I was way too low on the guy.
26:59Or if it's like... I think he'll be busy.
27:01Or it's like, yeah, he plays 12 snaps and you're like, oh, I forget the preseason is different.
27:06I'm more in on Shribling than I am on Mike Evans.
27:09Frank Tice? Yeah. In terms of draft capital spent or exposure, yes.
27:13Week one. But I think week one, Evans. Oh, you like Shribling over Evans week one?
27:17Yeah, I would play him over Evans. Interesting. Okay.
27:20Yeah. I'm deferring to age and experience. And frankly, like Mike Evans, obviously not the same level of player, but like the
27:26upside on Mike Evans is still pretty damn high right now.
27:29Did you see those routes he was running? He was doing this.
27:32Yeah. He wasn't trying real hard, guys. He was running some routes.
27:36He's a touchdown machine and a high efficient offense.
27:38He might be able to have some unsustainable efficiency this year in terms of yards.
27:42Some Devontae Adams like... Yeah, very much. That's his best chance.
27:46I did not... Again, I have very little Mike Evans exposure.
27:49I don't think I have any Mike Evans exposure, honestly, in drafts this year.
27:53Two for you? I have none. I have a lot of Shribling, so...
27:56I just have one Mike Evans in a deeper league.
27:59He also feels like... You could tell me week five rolls around.
28:02Mike Evans is wide receiver 13 on the year.
28:05And we're like, holy crap, we missed the boat.
28:07And then by Thanksgiving, you could be like, I don't know.
28:10That is exactly my expectation. It's like the reverse Jeremiah Love.
28:13Slow start for Love, and then he's going to be worth it.
28:17Evans is the opposite. I think he'll come out.
28:19He'll be like, all right, three touchdowns in four games.
28:22And then it's going to start to cool a little bit.
28:25But... Quinton Johnston, like last year, kind of a thing.
28:28Actually, a lot of guys did that. Ibuka, Dunze, had a good first month.
28:32Let's calm down on the Ibuka hate. All right.
28:34Hey, no hate at all. All right, for what it's worth, I would just say this.
28:39I think that with Mike Evans and DeJount Stribling, if there was someone that I thought the defense would be more keyed
28:45in on, it would be Mike Evans. Maybe a slightly easier matchup for DeJount Stribling in this one because of that.
28:51He's going to be on the perimeter. He's going to see.
28:54McDuffie might shadow him in this game. I'm taking the Rams in this one.
28:58Yeah. I have... The Rams. There we go. Thank you.
29:01I'm going to forget literally... I'm going to forget all of them.
29:04We'll find out. The really obvious ones, yes. Did we do our Super Bowl picks, by the way?
29:09I don't think we did that yesterday. No, we did not.
29:12We'll do that. Mine is Rams, so... Yeah, mine was Ravens over Rams.
29:16They don't pick on them. Life insurance is one of those things that's easy to put off because it doesn't feel urgent today.
29:22But it's not just another financial box to check.
29:25It's about having a plan in place, so if life throws something unexpected at your family, they're not left dealing with the financial side without support.
29:32We'll be right back. We'll be right back. Mike, I want to talk about some running backs.
29:37Okay. These running backs are a tough one to figure out because Steelers, all draft season, it's kind of been back and forth.
29:43Is it Rico Daudel? Are you in on Jalen Warren?
29:46Are you in on Rico Daudel? Which side are you on?
29:49They're taking on the Atlanta Falcons here. I've got, when you look at these lineup blocks, we've got Bajon Robertson, obviously, Drake
29:55London, Kyle Pitts, all the Falcons that you expect.
29:58Should I try to read the lineup blocks and the accent of the game or where the game is being played?
30:04I like that field. Steelers? Yinzas. Yeah, I don't really have...
30:07You guys? I need to import Tone Diggs, our buddy from Pat McAfee's show.
30:11Maybe it's Pat himself. He, of course, Pittsburgh legend.
30:13I would screw this up, so I'm not even going to bother trying.
30:17Michael Pittman Jr. and DK Metcalf are flex considerations, potentially, not lineup blocks, I would assume, Mike?
30:22I put them as lineup blocks, both top 26, and I kind of lean toward 12-team leagues.
30:26So, yeah, I think if you have them in this matchup, I'm firing them up.
30:31Well, let's talk about the running backs then. Those are the lineup blocks, by the way, on the screen.
30:36That's what we show. I've got Rico Daudel ahead.
30:38of Jalen Warren in this one. I'm curious where you guys are at, but I just like Rico Daudel as the one better pure running back.
30:46When I look at what I think this Mike McCarthy offense is going to be, I just think he's the better runner.
30:52The Pittsburgh style of a running back as a part of that.
30:55I know Jalen Warren's more like the pass-catching guy that we think of.
30:59Jalen Warren was a starter for the entire season last year, right?
31:02Rico Daudel was a part-time starter halfway through the year because of injury.
31:06He only had one less reception than Jalen Warren.
31:08He wasn't that bad of a pass-catcher from that perspective.
31:11So right now, just like with the way that I think the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to play offense week one, until
31:17I see Jalen Warren prove to me that he needs to be the guy, I think Rico Daudel just feels like the
31:23better, safer, potential, low-end RB2 play, and Warren is more like a low-end flex consideration.
31:28Probably a better pure runner is Rico Daudel, a better finisher at the goal line.
31:32Definitely. He'll have more touchdown upside. And familiarity with Mike McCarthy all working his favor.
31:36I think Jalen Warren is a good runner. I think he's a very capable pass-catcher, and there's obviously familiarity, reliability, and play there for him as well.
31:44So I have Daudel. Shoot, I screwed this up.
31:46I have Daudel at RB27. I got to recall my Jalen Warren rank, but the bottom line is...
31:51We're all close. I mean, I have one ahead of Daudel.
31:54The hope here is, I actually think for our purposes, like the better thing for us would be that we avoid dead
32:00zones, which is like they both kind of play enough to render them, not saying this is Jadarian Price's future or destiny,
32:06but like last night, where it's like everybody plays enough and none of the roles are impactful enough and what we don't
32:13think is going to be this amazing offense in Pittsburgh, that it's like, yeah, they both get 12 opportunities a game, 12
32:19to 15 opportunities a game, and they both average between like 10 and 12 fantasy points per game, something like that.
32:25Yeah, look, if they have 64 offensive snaps, it might be 32-32 or 33-31.
32:29You know what I mean? I think this is going to be a true committee 50-50 split with a lean towards Warren
32:35and passing situations to out on early downs. That's not good enough for me to consider one of these guys for my RB2 slot.
32:41Yeah, maybe at some point one moves ahead a little bit and becomes a flex option, but also Mike McCarthy, hates running backs from a fantasy perspective.
32:49Brutal, bad target. Hasn't been nice. Every season. So I've talked about this throughout the offseason.
32:53So staying away for week one. A couple of things here.
32:57I know they're lineup locks, but I'm legitimately curious how Tua plays for Drake London's purposes.
33:01Not that Drake London got great quarterback play last year, but Tua was so awful in the preseason.
33:06And this feels like the shortest leash in the history of starting quarterback leashes.
33:10Like, please, Tua, keep it together enough to feed Drake London into the football 12 times.
33:14Yeah, and he's done that. It's hard to believe he would just fall out.
33:18It's not like he's 40 years old. You know, he's still a prime agent.
33:22In Miami, he was able to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers.
33:26I know. They've had some big fantasy seasons, so hopefully he can do it here.
33:31Just feels like, I mean, is there anybody that I'm missing that's had what feels like a worse preseason than Tua?
33:37Well, there's a couple. Isaac Tesla. Deshaun Watson was pretty poor as well.
33:40Yeah, that's a good one. Okay. KJ McCarthy would probably get out there as well.
33:44QB three, right, in Minnesota? I went after one of your Lions and you just took it in stride, so well done.
33:51Mispronounced his name. I didn't even hear it. Didn't even hear it.
33:54Who are you guys picking in this game? Steelers.
33:56Steelers. I mean the Falcons. Wow, you're talking about the Falcons, huh?
34:00We're bad at forgetting who we are. We're bad at remembering in this one.
34:04Yeah, Steelers. Falcons, what's your confidence level in that Falcons pick?
34:07My confidence level players in the game. That's weird.
34:09That's weird. That's weird you picked a team that's going to lose.
34:13I thought your sister picked a team that's going to win.
34:16If I didn't do it, I would have jinxed the entire thing.
34:19So you guys should be grateful. I took Falcons.
34:22I think Mike and I are almost perfectly aligned so far.
34:25We're picking the winners, you know? That's what you're supposed to do.
34:28Did it last night. Yeah. Yep. Next up. This is you guys.
34:31Sorry. Oh, here we go. All right, Mike, let's talk about the Packers and the Vikings.
34:36And I believe you wanted to discuss the value of Marshawn Lloyd.
34:39We're going to see the lineup blocks here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:43This game is being played Sunday, 425 in Minnesota.
34:45We're going to wait on the lineup blocks in just a moment.
34:48So, Mike, while we wait for those, does Marshawn Lloyd crack that lineup lock list?
34:53He does not. He's RB26 this week. This is a wait and see.
34:56Very similar scenario to Jadarian Price, actually. This guy is entering his third year in the NFL.
35:01He's only appeared in one game. It's a little bit different, but a lot of excitement around him with no Josh Jacobs there.
35:07He finally gets an opportunity former day two draft pick.
35:10So, I'm, again, very fascinated to see what kind of role he plays in this one.
35:15But I do expect to see quite a bit of Chris Brooks, who is a good change of pace guy, along with
35:21Emmanuel Wilson behind Josh Jacobs the last couple of years.
35:24And I expect that tomorrow, or what day is it?
35:26Thursday on, so, Sunday. We get the promotions on Saturday.
35:29Yes. We will see Pierre Strong activated as well.
35:32Could see a few touches as well. So, probably going to be a three at a backfield.
35:37I would think Marshawn Lloyd is in the 50-55% snap share range.
35:40Should be the lead ball carrier. Maybe not a lot of pass catching involvement.
35:44What percent? And pretty good defense here in Minnesota.
35:46So, at the end of the day, no 55 jokes, okay?
35:49Why not? Are you out? Yeah, I'm out. This is serious business.
35:53The season's here. Two things. Okay. I don't agree with that.
35:56You don't agree with what? Oh, the 55 jokes?
35:58Yes. Being out on that. But you do it wrong, so you just ruined it a long time ago.
36:04So, we just don't do it anymore. Wow. You're ruined?
36:06You just yell 55. And then the fantasy footballer crowd gets mad at us.
36:10That's true. Wow. Because you do it wrong. How do you do it right?
36:14No, I'm not doing it. No, Mike, come on!
36:17No, it's ruined. 55% of the carries. The way you described what you think Marshawn Lloyd's outlook could look like sounded almost exactly like Jadarian Bryant.
36:24Yeah, very. That's what I'm kind of expecting in this one.
36:27But we also don't know for sure what it's going to look like.
36:31Is he even going to be an effective NFL running back?
36:34We've seen him in one game. We don't know.
36:36We don't know. I am heavily invested in this game because I do have some Marshawn Lloyd shares.
36:41But also because our boss, Scott Clark, plays in Dynasty League that the three of us play in.
36:46It's about half ESPNers and half former colleagues of ours here at ESPN.
36:50And we made a trade probably four, maybe three or four years ago.
36:54He was kind of pivoting to get younger and I kind of saw an opportunity to make a push.
36:59And I acquired Derrick Henry for Javante Williams and there was some flotsam involved as well.
37:03One of the players going from my roster to his was Marshawn Lloyd.
37:07And now like ever since Four years later. I guess it wasn't four years later.
37:11And like one of the jokes he always would be like you know, it'd be random like week nine he'll be like
37:17currently anticipating 22 points from Marshawn Lloyd. Right? It's just like he continues to hang around on Scott's bench.
37:23Sooner or later. That's me with Trey Benson. I'm going to keep Trey Benson forever in Dynasty for no reason.
37:28So this is a big moment here for Scott Clark's team.
37:31Yeah. Huge. Yeah. So you're going to start him?
37:34We have a lot of fluxes. Dynasty is probably in there.
37:37That's why Dynasty is the best by the way.
37:40It's because Scott made a big trade last year himself in which he acquired Josh Allen for the cost of two future first round picks.
37:47Plus and this was like early last season. Like I think even before the season.
37:51JJ McCarthy and Travis Hunter. And think about where we were last year at this time with both of those players before the season had begun.
37:58Could JJ McCarthy they be a breakout top 12 quarterback?
38:01Is Travis Hunter going to be a potential top 15 wide receiver?
38:04Yeah. It's a Dynasty can be the best. It can also It can also be the worst.
38:09The worst. Oh that's so fun. Alright so Marshawn Lloyd that's where Mike is at.
38:13I wanted to discuss the Packers wide receivers as always they are kind of an enigma.
38:18How do you rank all of these players? Worth noting before I get into the receivers.
38:22Tucker Craft full go yesterday. He is going to play in week one.
38:26We were expecting that but just an update on where he stands health wise.
38:30Here is how I have this kind of reminds me of my 49ers analysis earlier.
38:34Less so like I know exactly what's going to happen more so here's how I have them ranked in case you want to follow said rankings.
38:41You guys know that I think Christian Watson's ready for his best season yet.
38:45Yep. He has wide receiver 26 for me. So inside my top 30 I consider him a borderline lineup lock.
38:51He's certainly a strong flex consideration. Matthew Golden wide receiver 37.
38:54Jayden Reed wide receiver 44. Jayden Reed will probably have five games this year where he looks like the best Packers wide receiver.
39:00I think the other 10 to 12 games are going to be games where you're saying to yourself why would I ever bother starting this player?
39:07Golden is super intriguing because of the breakout possibility.
39:10The Packers made this big investment in him a year ago.
39:13He also had zero touchdowns as a rookie. So Watson is my guy out of the three Packers wide receivers or either
39:19of you confident in any Packers wide receiver to the point he would be inside your top 30.
39:24Nope. Not this week. They're all outside my top 30 but I do have Watson the highest for this week.
39:30But again it's 32 33 and then I've Jayden Reed down at 39.
39:33Remember the Vikings we expect to still be very good defensively.
39:36Yeah. And they allowed the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers last season quietly.
39:40I feel like like the I think because of what went on with the offense they kind of quietly got the job
39:47done but they shut down receivers last year and again they should be very good in that area again this year.
39:52Even shut down Jefferson Jefferson last year. Yeah you're right they did they were that good.
39:57They were just so good in practice that they couldn't even get going and when the game happened.
40:02It was confidence filled all his confidence. Yeah I'm avoiding these receivers for week one for the most part.
40:07Mike took the Packers. You took the Packers. I took the Packers in this one.
40:11Where did our producers go? Packers all around. Wow.
40:14Yikes. That's in part because Quinton is a Packers fan so they had to do it.
40:18Please please please please please Kyler Murray do your job.
40:21No that's the only thing we want. What's that job to be clear?
40:25Throw the football early and often to Justin Jefferson.
40:27That's it. Okay. I'll do respect to Addison and Jennings.
40:30I was going Parkinson. I was going further down.
40:33I was going to say TJ Parkinson. How dare you?
40:35He needs 10 at least 10 targets or a 30% target Sheriff.
40:39Kyler only throws the ball 27 times which is he probably.
40:42Justin Jefferson needs to have at least nine of them.
40:45We need a career high target share from Justin Jefferson which he had last year but needs to be more efficient.
40:51It's going to be the same thing. Let's take a couple of questions from our chat.
40:55This one comes from Isaac Smith wants to know someone dropped Josh Jacobs in my league.
41:00Is it worth the waiver claim this early in the season?
41:03Absolutely. I agree. Speculative. I think it's you know again we've been using sort of like five-ish games missed as a potential guess for Josh Jacobs.
41:10We don't know obviously but yes I would say he deserves to be rostered right now.
41:14Agreed. Deserves sounds like the wrong choice of words.
41:17I know what you mean. I think he is a player that would bring value on your fantasy roster right now based off what we know.
41:24You're right. With you on that. All right next one from our chat.
41:28By the way thanks for hanging out with us in there.
41:31We love the community you guys have been able to foster with our buddy Eric.
41:35Again follow him at Eric and Moody. This one is from Lalo Garcia.
41:39Should I start Quinchan Judkins, Marshawn Lloyd, or Carnell Tate?
41:41In my flex. I have an answer here. What do you guys think?
41:45Yeah Judkins for me. Judkins easy call for me.
41:48I did look at I don't know. Are we doing Titans today?
41:51I don't know when we're doing that one. Carnell Tate.
41:54We'll get into that but basically it's very similar to what you did with Jeremiah Love like where yeah they have good
42:00first seasons but how do they do in that first game right?
42:03And for guys drafted in the top 15 and wide receiver and again all the numbers at another point but basically solid but not spectacular.
42:10Usually I don't see a huge games from these guys.
42:13right out of the gate so a little bit of hesitation there enough to start him as a wide receiver three or
42:19flex yes but enough to put him over Quinshawn Judkins who should have pushing for 20 carries in this game.
42:25No go Judkins. We're all in this together. That's why I was excited in my arms to you guys.
42:30I can't quite reach. We're all in this together.
42:33Do you guys remember when Marvin Harrison Jr.'s first game that was a four Cardinals went up like 28 to three over
42:39the Bills and you're like if I told you the score would be 28 to three at half would you believe that Marvin Harrison Jr.
42:46would finish with four points? It was like one catch for 30 yards in his first NFL game.
42:51And that was again that's rare for those guys drafted that early.
42:54They usually have a solid first game but he did not.
42:57Sadly it was like some sort of foreshadowing. I think he's one of two of those top 15 receivers over the past decade.
43:04A lot of times it's cool to be like one of two.
43:07This is not one of those top 10 in a bad way.
43:10Another couple questions here before we move on. This one comes from another YouTube listener.
43:15Full PPR George Kittle or Michael Mayer? Michael Mayer.
43:17I think Michael Mayer as well. I think that 25% target share.
43:20Remember Mayer was a second round pick. This guy would be probably a tight end one in fantasy if he was starting for another team.
43:27What are we laughing at? I'm getting better at my job is what we're laughing at.
43:32The user my. If you're watching you can go back and rewind it.
43:36I missed it. What'd you do? This is the user my.
43:39Yes. We've had this user on the past before that has left some comments in our chat.
43:43But we love having him in there. Them. Him or her.
43:47Whoever it is. We got one more. Tell me later.
43:49I don't know. Just hit the rewind button for like 20 seconds.
43:53You'll see it. This last one comes from Dale.
43:55Oh, wow. This last one comes from Day. Dale and Ike.
43:58Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe not. Dale and Ike off.
44:01Dale and Ike off. All right. Parker Washington versus Cleveland.
44:04Oh, come on. Or Josh Downs versus Baltimore for flex two.
44:07Oh, flex two. I mean, do you like having fun?
44:10Do you like having fun when you play fantasy?
44:12Yes. I do. Yes. Parker Washington. Are you kidding me?
44:15Again, one of the guys I cannot wait to see over.
44:18Do you want to watch Josh Downs? Like Josh Downs maybe outscores him if Washington doesn't have a big player to like.
44:24No, it's all going to be short range. Little throws and like that has value.
44:28But come on. First of all, you drafted Parker Washington before him.
44:32Yes. And that is a fun player. Yeah, he's a fun player.
44:35Come on. Parker Washington. I agree. News or noise on Parker Washington being named the team's punt returner?
44:40Oh, I don't care. Was Kyron Williams named the Rams punt returner again?
44:44I don't. Oh, actually, I forgot about that because I saw the tweets and I was like, man, how many recent examples
44:50are there of guys who handled punt return duties that also had a big offense?
44:54Did Kyron really handle punt return duties for that long into the season?
44:58He had one punt return. It was in week one and then he never did it again.
45:03Right, because it might happen in week one. Just, you know, teams want to just kind of get off the tee to borrow a golf metaphor.
45:10Yeah, he did handle Parker Washington. He was very good last season.
45:13As we know, he handled 96% of their punt returns last year.
45:17Oh, well, for the whole season, that was 25 punt returns, including the playoffs.
45:20By the way, he was awesome in the second half of last year.
45:24Yeah, he was and he was still their full-time punt returner.
45:27Let's talk about the Bucs. Let's do it. Baker Mayfield used to have two chips on his shoulder.
45:32Then he got both of his pockets full of money.
45:35Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure how that one's going to work here in this one anymore.
45:39We look at the lineup blocks. Joe Burrow, Chase Brown, Jamar Chase, Teagans, the entire Bengals offense that you expect.
45:45Mecca Abuka practiced in full yesterday. That's a good sign for Abuka, of course, dealt with that toe.
45:50Yeah, you were nervous. Mike, is there a second page to this lineup blocks or is Mecca Abuka the only lineup block from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
45:58Yes, he is. Who else? Yeah, we're not putting Bucky Irving on there.
46:01He's the one that's you're probably starting in, but I wouldn't go as far as to call him a lineup block.
46:07I agree. Let's talk about it because remember he was the RB 22, 21.
46:11So yeah, might have two better options. I don't I just don't feel good about Bucky like he's still the RB one
46:17of this team, but I feel like you've got two guys.
46:20Didn't happen. Yeah, I was able to hold it in.
46:23Bless you. Yeah, it's bad for audio listeners. I feel and we're still waiting.
46:27Sean Tucker has been banged up, but he's got two guys.
46:30I feel like on both sides of his the role of his job that are just vulturing his volume.
46:35He's got Sean Tucker that I think is a really good end zone guy and we watch Sean Tucker on a points per touch basis.
46:42Sean Tucker was RB 11 last year, which is insane.
46:45That just shows you that his like he is a touchdown vulture at the goal line.
46:50That's what that says to me. And Kenny Gainwell is an unbelievable pass catcher.
46:54There is no more ceiling. It doesn't really feel like for Bucky in the same way, not in the same way.
46:59So because of that, it's just if you're starting him, he's like a low end RB to that you're hoping falls into
47:06the end zone falls right outside of the top 20.
47:08I would guess for Mike because he's not a lineup lock interested to see how this Bengals run defense looks this year.
47:15I mean, they were a disaster across the board last year.
47:18So the miles Garrett trade one of the biggest defensive trades of the offseason.
47:22Yeah. Dexter Lawrence, like they think he can be a one man fix for the run defense.
47:26Hey, it wasn't just that Jonathan Allen, boy Mafe can stop the run.
47:30I mean, they made some big change. Yeah, they made some big changes up front.
47:34I don't think that's going to be. I love when teams do that.
47:38Sometimes teams just continue to ignore weaknesses every year and you're like, what are they doing?
47:42And the Bengals are very guilty of that. They did not do that with the interior of that defensive line this year.
47:48They added some B or the whole front of the defense.
47:52I feel like Bucky really fell off from an efficiency standpoint, like between his first four weeks.
47:56He was amazing. He was. And then he got banged up and it was tough.
48:00Health issues, sort of ambiguity surrounding those still makes it hard to fully evaluate it.
48:05But yeah, he was not the same player after he returned as he was in the first.
48:09He was like, I think like a top 10 in terms of total touches in the first four weeks of this season.
48:16Yeah, definitely with you. I am very curious how this Bucks backfield plays out.
48:19I feel like the league finally got it right.
48:22Right. With Kenny Gainwell making $7 million per year.
48:25And that's the kind of money that tells you he is going to play a real role.
48:29Like this could be a Jadarian Price situation based off what we saw last night from Price for Bucky Irving.
48:35I had a really quickly just a fun stat that I want to say because it was while I was researching these
48:41guys looking at it last year, Bucky Irving 48th out of a qualified 57 running backs and fantasy points per touch.
48:47Just unbelievably inefficient. You know who was RB1? Kenny Gainwell.
48:50His backfield mate, Kenny Gainwell. Oh, wow. And how many carries inside the five yard line did Bucky Irving have last year?
48:56That's a great question, Mike. How many? He had zero.
48:59Zero. Sean Tucker. Sean Tucker had 11 inside the five yard line.
49:02I think it's 8 for maybe it was 8 for 52.3% of the Bucks.
49:06It'll be interesting to see the way that everything is deployed.
49:09We'll talk a lot about it at the snap share and how everyone is utilized here in week one after this.
49:15Baker has my attention for this week. It's kind of a weird week for quarterbacks because we have a couple of like
49:21otherwise no brainers that are in tough spots, right?
49:24Drake May. We saw that why that was the case last night.
49:27Josh Allen. Now our confidence is not as low as at least mine and Mike's confidence was going into last night for Drake May.
49:34And you can make the case that there are a couple other QBs that, you know, Jaden Daniels, he faces a tough Philadelphia defense.
49:40If you're going to pivot off of those guys, who might be amongst the pivot options?
49:45Baker Mayfield. And I don't think the Baker Mayfield's upside is just like you can pivot to him in week one and
49:51he can be your starter to begin the season.
49:53Like I think Baker Mayfield could claw his way back in to back end top 12 quarterback conversation.
49:58They were awful last season. Awful as an offense just across the board.
50:02Two years ago, they were lighting things up. Now part of that was because their defense was so bad.
50:07They were throwing, they were like the Bengals a season ago as far as defense and offense is concerned.
50:13I just generally think this Bengals, sorry, this Buccaneers offense will be a lot better.
50:17And while I'm not, I think this Bengals defense is better as Mike discussed, not convinced they're fixed.
50:22Right? So I think Baker can throw the football around the yard a little bit this week.
50:27I've got him as quarterback 13. I'm a hair lower than you.
50:30I agree. I think like two years ago, he needed enormous passing numbers to get into that top 10.
50:35I think they could do it again though. If he said, remember the reports were, and he's not the kind of guy
50:42that's going to come out and complain that he's hurt, but the reports were like, he was pretty beat up last year.
50:48And the same thing with Emeka Abuka and that really affected things.
50:51You know, Chris Godwin, Mike Evans is out. I mean, there was a lot of things that went wrong for them.
50:57So they come in healthy to this, this season.
50:59No doubt about it. I'm with you. There's, he's one of them guys that could sneak back into relevance.
51:05How much does he now make per year? Almost as much as Mike.
51:08Beat me to it. You know, field always makes that joke and I thought I had my opportunity there and you stole it from me.
51:15I'm sorry. How many million per year? I don't know.
51:18What is it? You don't know. 55. Is it?
51:21It is. Yes. Oh, that's amazing. I'm trying to serve you up.
51:24Come on, Michael. Nope. Bump set spike. You got to do the spike.
51:28Bump set. No, it's not. You can't just show 55.
51:31It's 55 burgers, 55 fries, 55 dogs, 55 milkshakes.
51:3355 million. 55 million. 55 touchdown passes. Who are you guys taking in this one?
51:3755 fantasy points. Oh, wow. We're some mixed there.
51:40I am taking the Buccaneers. I'm going Bengals. I'm taking the Bengals in this one.
51:44You know what makes me the most disappointed? Week one.
51:47Last year, we said one thing about the Bengals defense.
51:50Start your tight end every single week against them.
51:52We're not even talking about Kaye Dotton in this one.
51:55We'll see. Brian Cook might help erase things on that category.
51:58I want to see. Maybe that happens. Raheem Sanders later.
52:01Anyone have Payne Durham? Stop. Stop. Don't want that.
52:03Payne Durham touchdown here. Yeah, I'm going Bengals. The Bengals famous for their quick starts.
52:07Yes, they are. They are. They are. Let's talk Lions and Saints, Michael.
52:11Oh, here we go. That was a fun one for you.
52:14You got your Lions and your guy Tyler Shuck on the other side.
52:18Absolutely. Got a little bit of everyone. The lineup block page is full here.
52:22Jameer Gibbs, Amonra St. Brown, Jameson Williams, Sam Laporta, Travis Achan Jr., and Chris Olave as well on the other side.
52:28Honestly, if I was going to build a DFS lineup, which I may, a little bit of foreshadowing, you might see that on my Twitter.
52:35It'll be popular. This will be a big game to stack because it's the second highest implied total on the week.
52:40Got a very, very angry message on social media last night.
52:43Oh, no. From somebody telling me, telling us, we have to stop confusing Devon Achan and Travis Achan.
52:49Pronounce his name correctly. This is like typical of you guys.
52:52Did this person miss the news? I guess so.
52:54Missed the news. Apparently, like legitimately missed the news of the offseason.
52:57That was me. That's my burner. Gotcha. Travis. I'm sorry.
53:00Gotcha. That was it. All for this moment. Gotcha.
53:03Formerly, Travis Etienne has made it clear that he wants to go by his proper pronunciation.
53:07You call him what that guy wants you to call him.
53:10You change his name. So, person who was really, like really mad.
53:14That's really tough. Yeah. That's weird. Someone on social was really mad about him.
53:18That doesn't usually happen. That's never happened before. That's so weird.
53:21All right, guys. Talk to me about this game.
53:23Speaking of guys who you hear his name pronounced quite differently, should we talk about some secondary targets for the Saints?
53:29There's no reason to start Devon Valet, right? Devon Valet rhymes with Valet.
53:33Dang it. See, I did it wrong. That's where I was going with that.
53:37It's because, of course, Jordan Tyson is out for at least the first four games of the season.
53:42Yep. Might be closer to six games, but we'll keep an eye on that.
53:46Hopefully he's back sooner rather than later. We're excited to see him.
53:49But in the meantime, Devon Valet is a guy that will step in.
53:53Likely he's an every down player opposite Chris Alave.
53:55Five games last year. He was a full-timer for the Saints.
53:58One of them he left hurt. Average 5.6 targets per game.
54:01Solid number in what we expect to be an okay offense this year.
54:05Wasn't super consistent, but he did have that one big game in week 13.
54:09Eight for 93 and a touchdown. So that shows you what he could potentially bring to the table.
54:14The other thing we also like is, and this applies to Jawan Johnson I'll get to in a second, but the Lions
54:20already struggled against receivers last year and they are beat up in the secondary right now.
54:24No Brian Branch. No Kirby Joseph. Not Tracy Walker.
54:27That's right. Kirby Joseph. And of course, Terry and Arnold's no longer with that team.
54:31Rock Yacin, now the number two cornerback. Yeah, so they have problems in the secondary right now that opens up some opportunities for Valet.
54:38And then Jawan Johnson. I have a trivia question for you guys.
54:41Yes, I'm so ready. Where did Jawan Johnson finish last season?
54:44No, I don't have that one. Where did he finish in top 12 fantasy weeks among tight ends last year?
54:50Sixth. Ooh, I'm going to say seventh. Second. You believe that?
54:53Trey McBride, huh? Yeah, he was second. He was tied for second with nine top 10 fan, top 12 fantasy weeks last season.
54:59Career highs across the board. I do believe that.
55:02Um, yeah, he was eighth or better at tight end in targets, catches, yardage, and fantasy points.
55:07So, uh, we thought we didn't like him as much in the drafts because they brought in Tyson, right?
55:12But obviously things changed without Tyson. He's very much on that tight end one radar this week.
55:17Where did they go to college? Uh, Kutztown University.
55:19Eastern, correct. I know that's wrong. Eastern, coastal Carolina.
55:22Also incorrect. He is the Aaron Dolan of NFL players.
55:25Oh, okay. Oregon and then Penn State. Or Penn State and then Oregon.
55:28I think Aaron was the other. Yeah, I think he was a wide receiver in college who became a test in the NFL.
55:35I think I like Jawan Johnson a little bit more than you guys this week.
55:39And you highlighted a really positive case for him.
55:41I did the same thing. Like, you look at everything he did last year.
55:45Once Tyler Shuck took over, he was tied at nine points per game, averaged 11.5 points per game with Shuck as his
55:51starting quarterback, which is more than serviceable. And again, the negative last year, do you want to know how many end zone targets he had?
55:58Seven. Zero. Seven. Zero for Jawan Johnson. Zero. That means that there's only room for that to go up.
56:04He was tied at nine when he had zero end zone targets.
56:07So there's at least room for there to be more there.
56:10And I'm expecting some garbage time again with a lot of points being scored in this one.
56:15I like Jawan Johnson. I don't know if he had four.
56:18Jawan Johnson? I have him with four. Are we sure about that?
56:21Four end zone targets? Yeah. I don't know. That's not what mine said.
56:25I have him with four. But we'll have to see.
56:28I'm looking at end zone targets right here. Should we do a board bet?
56:32Did Jawan Johnson have, I say Jawan Johnson had four end zone targets last season.
56:36He had zero end zone targets with Tyler Shuck as his quarterback.
56:39Oh, with Tyler Shuck. Okay. Much smaller. He was top seven in receptions.
56:43Top five in receiving yards with Tyler Shuck as his quarterback.
56:46Like he was really good. Yeah. Okay. All right.
56:49Gotcha. Chuck, Chuck. Lions, Lions, Lions, Lions, Lions. Yeah.
56:51Lions, Lions, Lions. By the way, the only reason I'm a little lower on Johnson than you is that tier.
56:57It's so close. There's so many guys like Goddard, Andrews, Kelsey, Ferguson, likely, Mayer, Talkinson.
57:01All those guys are right in that range. But if you want to start him this week, no qualms with that.
57:07Did we have to admit that we all were required to pick the Lions to be nice to Daniel?
57:12Yeah. No, you don't have to admit that. He put that in his contract.
57:16That's exactly right. No negativity about the Lions here.
57:18All right. That's true. Sweet. Next one. The Commanders and the Eagles.
57:22Mike's Eagles, of course, is a big one. Cannot wait for that.
57:25Here are the five lineup blocks according to Mike Clay.
57:28No major surprises. Jalen Hurts, Saquon Barkley. Hurts in a tasty matchup.
57:31Devontae Smith, big breakout year potentially. Jaden Daniels in a difficult matchup but still good enough to be started.
57:37Terry McLaurin, same goes. Difficult matchup but still good enough to be started.
57:40Maybe he sees some Quinjon Mitchell tonight. Mike, you wanted to discuss wide receivers.
57:44Knott's name, Terry McLaurin and Devontae Smith. Yeah, exactly.
57:47There's a lot of notable names here but the question is are we starting them in week one in the matchup for both sides?
57:53So we'll start with Stephon Diggs here. I'm a wide receiver 44.
57:57I have not, again, I have no exposure to him.
58:00You know, he was more palatable early in the offseason before he signed but when he signed his ADP spiked a little
58:06bit too much for me so I've been out on him and I just don't see a path here against a really good Eagles defense.
58:13Remember, he was the number one target in the Patriots high-scoring offense last year one that was high volume in the passing game.
58:19Easy schedule. No doubt about it. Now he goes to probably the number two in a much lower volume passing attack.
58:25Remember, no more Cliff Kingsbury. That's probably going to slow down the offense a little bit and of course with Jaden running
58:31that's going to lower the volume so I just don't know if there's enough there for frankly an older wide receiver to
58:37be a consistent fantasy option that we feel really good about so I'm not starting him in a tough matchup.
58:43You remember, the Eagles allowed six touchdowns wide receivers the entire season last year six touchdowns to receivers.
58:48So much of that secondary is back besides Reid Blank.
58:51Yeah, exactly. With Tariq Willen at it too. Yeah, yeah and you're going to see Cooper DeGene at safety more often this
58:57year he'll still be in the slop at State Lake.
59:00Yeah, they're in a really good spot so I'm avoiding Diggs this week in this matchup he might be a flex option in better matchups we'll see.
59:07For the Eagles you know, you have the clear number one with Devontae Smith after that I think they're going to shuffle guys around early on.
59:14Now, they took Makai Lemon in the first round but he missed a huge chunk of the offseason so I expect a
59:21slow start for him I'm not starting him Dontavian Wicks will benefit from that he'll be on the field more but you're
59:27really hoping that he has a long a long a big play a big touchdown something like that but I thought this
59:33was really fascinating Dontavian Wicks that three seasons with the Packers right?
59:36He had exactly one game with at least 24 fantasy points in all three seasons exactly one When will that game come?
59:42Exactly one in all three seasons otherwise in all of his other games he averaged 5.3 fantasy points per game Wow Just
59:49kind of an unreal sort of Good enough to get traded for you know, and get an extension for decent money but
59:55not good enough to be playing Yeah, and I've said Yeah, I don't Sorry, finish your I said not good enough to
60:01be in your lineup Yeah, yeah I was going to say we talked about this through August I don't know if they're
60:07going to be able to support a second consistent fantasy receiver with Jalen Hurts under center so this is an avoid for
60:13me I don't know You guys give me a different example Is there a backfield that feels like it may be more
60:19likely headed for a dead zone than the commanders backfield this season?
60:23Yes Who is it? The Panthers Panthers? Okay I think the I think the commanders are more I agree with you I
60:29think the commanders are more likely to be a dead zone I just don't know unless Rashad White takes control but I
60:35don't get that indication Yeah, so there are a few that come to mind I just wanted to explain my They're both
60:41right there Yeah, sort of my pessimism for them going into this game specifically I've got Rashad White clearly as the preferred
60:47target for week one He's my RB 33 but still well outside my top 20 I'm much more likely to start a
60:54flex wide receiver than I am a running back Bill Krosky-Merritt to Corey Krosky-Merritt is my running back 42 and there was
61:00a time remember going into last season we were like oh my god could the commanders really rely on this diamond in
61:06the rough day 3 selection well it's worth noting that the Eagles are the 4th biggest favorite of the week if you're
61:12favored to be up that means that the team who is down is more likely to be passing the football here's a
61:18little Mike Clay trivia for you over the last 6 games of last season how many targets did Bill Krosky-Merritt see?
61:24Zero Correct zero targets in the last 6 games now new system new coordinator first time play caller maybe David Blau taps
61:30into more of Bill Krosky-Merritt's passing game skills than we saw from Cliff Kingsbury but I mean this guy makes Derrick Henry
61:36look high volume in the passing department he had like 13 targets all year 9 catches he really needs to have 80
61:42plus yards and a touchdown to pay off so until further notice I am down on Bill Krosky-Merritt's his projection on the
61:49screen 11 carries for 45 yards 1 catch for 7 yards looks a lot like what we saw last night from Jadarian
61:55Price we keep making that comp but that might be the usage like Rashad White might be in a George Helani role
62:01and that's kind of what we're expecting and that's why these guys were so inexpensive in fantasy drafts they were just dead
62:07zone flyers I found myself drafting more JCM than I did Rashad White because he was the one generating the hype throughout
62:13the offseason so hopefully they do expand on his role he's an exciting player but we'll see I need to stand on
62:19business and just say that comparing Jadarian Price to Jokori Krosky-Merritt doesn't sit well with me and I understand the numbers might
62:26be the same that was basically Jadarian Price's line line I understand I didn't like it I hear you didn't like it
62:32you made the joke that he had almost as many targets last night as he had his entire college career that's factually
62:38correct he was about a third of the way there not bad we're all taking the Eagles in this game I'm assuming
62:44yes we are I was actually obligated to take the Eagles the producers taking the commanders getting frisky I think that Jaden
62:50Daniels I believe his best ever fantasy game was against the Eagles there was a high scoring game he had like five
62:56touchdowns and like 33 points so I don't know love that it's gonna be a tough one so a couple things here
63:02the game tonight is a reminder 835 is kickoff so later than a typical primetime game again they're playing in Australia oh
63:09that's no big deal for us on the east coast we'll just stay up a little bit later even it felt like
63:15an affront to society last night for me to have to be up until almost midnight like I did get to feed
63:21the baby I did the dream feed were you on the couch was last night I was downstairs on the couch I
63:27brought the baby has we have a rocking chair in her bedroom so it's you know what I'm tired this morning it's
63:33the cutest friggin thing in the world so of course it is yeah we're it's football season starting is not just football
63:39season it's also back to school so now I'm getting up much earlier than I need to normally because I have to
63:46get the kids on the bus into school and that so yeah I was hoping they didn't go to overtime last night
63:52I will say that for a minute there except for the fantasy points it should have went to overtime if he doesn't
63:58throw that pass that probably goes over this goes back this is back to couch season for me oh my god we
64:04don't do a lot of TV watching we don't do like but like once you get to football season it's like I'm
64:10there non-stop do you bring like a blanket and a pillow out with you for these late night games in case you
64:16fall asleep or do you refuse to allow yourself to fall asleep you guys know that I never fall asleep during the
64:22day we do know that me the dad with three young kids I mean don't you just have blankets and pillows on
64:29your sofa we do but do you sleep with those like when you take a nap do you sleep with those I
64:35don't nap you're not a napper I can't do it I don't like it I just feel like my days ruined if
64:41I nap I feel like I'm in a haze of course a computer would feel that way I don't nap either I
64:47wish I did but like I will fall asleep on the couch but that's like me falling asleep that's like you actually
64:53go into bed I don't nap no wow trust me I wish I would I'm power on in the morning one coffee
64:59and then I power off power on there is no standby mode alright well I'm curious if you guys nap please tell
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