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0:41What's up, friends? Welcome into Fantasy Focus alongside Mike Clay.
0:44My name is Daniel Dopp because Field Yates is gone.
0:47It's just a duo today. It's a whole field taking vacation.
0:50I would never. Always taking vacation. I would never take a personal day.
0:54Vacation day. You know me. I'm here. I'm ready to grind.
0:57You've never, never once. I would never do that.
0:59Been accused. I would never do that. By the way, if you watch the show every day, you probably notice that every
1:05time we start, I immediately go like this. Yes, yes.
1:08Because you reach down. I'm quiet when we're talking in here, and then the show starts, and you start talking louder, and
1:14I'm like, oh no, my volume is so loud.
1:16I have to turn it down. Daniel, I was up till like midnight last night.
1:21Come on, man. You and me both. Get easy on me.
1:24All right. We're going to talk about that. We got a very fun show planned for you today.
1:29Obviously, we're going to dive into all the things that were the Monday Night Football game.
1:33We're going to talk about waivers as well, which is always big for us.
1:37A Raheem Sanders payoff. We've got the knockout league, which we're going to talk about as well, and maybe a little overreaction if we have some time.
1:44Who knows? Mike and I are going to dive into as much as we possibly can.
1:49Exactly. It's our first week recapping a week, so we're just kind of figuring it out on the fly here.
1:54With that, we're not figuring it out on the fly.
1:57We did, in fact, have a show note and a meeting.
2:00Oh, we did? Mike, don't let Mike make you think we didn't.
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2:32We're all over the place, Michael. And with that being said, why don't we dive into a quick recap?
2:37Yeah, speaking of a team that's still sleeping and maybe didn't get good rest going into the week, I don't know.
2:43There's a joke here somewhere, but the Broncos were not ready.
2:46The Chiefs playing at Arrowhead were ready for this one.
2:48Yeah, the Denver Broncos lost 10-31 to the Ken Walker.
2:51Honestly, Ken Walker scored. That was the whole thing.
2:54He had more yards, I think, than their whole team.
2:56Almost had more yards. Did he? Yeah, I think he might have.
3:00He had 191 yards. It looks like Denver had 131 passing and 51 rushing.
3:04192. Almost the same. That's almost the same. That's incredible.
3:06Wow, yeah. K9, I mean, this is the story.
3:09Of all the things that happened in Monday Night Football, which honestly, the biggest thing that happened is, you know, Field's not here.
3:15Mike and I, he asked us to house hit the house last night, and it was really fun.
3:20Mike broke into Field's fancy liquor cabinet. And obviously, we had a bunch of the really expensive clear stuff.
3:25Yeah, it's really fun. And then when we filled it back up with water so that Field won't know, the expensive glass
3:31waters that Field keeps in the fridge that everyone knows about.
3:34But while we were doing that, Ken Walker III absolutely just smashed.
3:38I thought you were going somewhere else with that.
3:40I was waiting for you to decide. I was going to decide.
3:44I thought there was a hook somewhere. You never got there.
3:47Anyway, let's move on to Ken Walker. Wow. He was the only storyline.
3:50I mean, there were some negative storylines. He was the only positive storyline.
3:54The dude looked unbelievable. When you talk about first game with a new squad, this is what you're hoping happens.
3:59Ken Walker III was unbelievable. Mike, major takeaways for you.
4:02Yeah, let's talk about that. 23 carries, 173 yards, and a touchdown.
4:05Also involved in the passing game, 15 routes. And they didn't have to throw much.
4:09Only 27 pass attempts. Nope. Six targets, three catches, 18 yards, and another touchdown.
4:13And look, they didn't need to use him a lot in the fourth quarter.
4:17This game was pretty much in control for the Chiefs.
4:20Or perhaps he might have done even more damage.
4:22We saw St. Mehmet Johnson, the rookie, looked fine.
4:25Especially in the passing game, he had two catches for 44 yards.
4:28But probably going to get a smaller share in the future, certainly.
4:32You know, if the game script is a little bit different, they're not always going to be up by two or three touchdowns.
4:38So, obviously, Walker was highlight. I would also say something else that, you know, a positive for the Chiefs is Patrick Mahomes running the football.
4:45Had a rushing touchdown early. Yep. Seven for 23 and a touchdown.
4:48I believe he had three of his seven carries were scrambles, which is a good sign.
4:53So, he looks good. That was our concern with him, right?
4:56We know he could throw the football. How much is he going to add with his legs?
5:00He looked fine to me. He doesn't look like a guy who tore his ACL late last year.
5:05Agreed. I'm with you on that. The one thing about Mahomes from a passing game perspective, didn't disappoint.
5:10But he didn't really have to do a whole lot because there was a lot of running because of that.
5:16Yeah, his average depth of throw, I believe, was four and a half yards.
5:20I mean, it was clearly the game plan was, we're not bothering with our wide receivers.
5:24I mean, Rasheed Rice, if he doesn't break that tackle and score a touchdown, it's basically a zero for him.
5:30He had two for 19 and a touchdown, but only had two targets.
5:33But that was clearly the game plan. Yes. Snap the ball to Mahomes, immediately throw it to Xavier Worthy or Walker out
5:39of the backfield or whoever's in the short area.
5:42That's not going to be the case most weeks.
5:44But they were protecting themselves against one of the best defenses in the NFL.
5:48They did an excellent job game planning, and they just ran it through Ken Walker.
5:52And as long as he's running well, which he was in this one, 101 yards over expectation in this one for Walker.
5:58Wow. Just a surreal number. It was working, and they just kept doing it.
6:02They did just keep doing it. Travis Kelsey is going to look like he had a nice day in this one, Mike.
6:0810.1 fantasy points. Most of that came on like one big catch where he had almost 60 yards on one play.
6:14So how are you feeling about the rest of this squad when we're just like looking ahead, right?
6:19Ken Walker III definitely going to be a start for us next week.
6:23Mishi Rice still going to be a start. This was a tough matchup.
6:26We'll talk about him more. Not worried about that.
6:29He was still there. Worthy and Rice were the one-two punch at receiver pretty clearly.
6:33Do you think that Patrick Mahomes has worked his way up with the rushing that you've seen to potentially be in the
6:39starter conversation with week two when we talk on Wednesday?
6:42Yeah, he's definitely a borderline QB1. We'll see where he falls in our rankings.
6:45I have to look at who they are playing, which I'm looking at right now.
6:50They're playing the Colts. So yeah, he'll certainly be playable.
6:52It looks like I'm going to have him right around QB8 through 10, right in that range.
6:57So we definitely feel better. Now that we know he's not going to have one carry for two yards, we can feel
7:03better about him as a back-end QB1. He didn't look limited.
7:06It looked like he was fine from that perspective.
7:09That really helps alleviate a lot of fears. Let's talk about the other side because it wasn't very fun if you were a Broncos manager.
7:15What positives did you see from the Denver Broncos from a fantasy perspective, Mike?
7:19Uh, well, Jalen Waddle and Cortland Sutton were 1-2 in pass routes by a lot.
7:24Okay. Maybe that's it. I guess that... No, I would say Evan Ingram played more than he did last year.
7:29Had four for 43 and caught a touchdown. That, you know, maybe it gets into the streaming conversation.
7:34I'm pessimistic because he went basically all of last year being fantasy irrelevant.
7:38So not super optimistic, but if you're in a tough spot at tight end, not the worst add in a 12-team league.
7:44Pat Bryant looked good, but again, he was well behind Sutton and Waddle in routes.
7:48And those guys are not going to go two for 11 and one for two at all.
7:52I mean, that's... Maybe they're both of their worst game of the season.
7:56They're going to have better games. Maybe this is a really good thing to make sure that everyone understands too.
8:02Because when you look at the box score, what you see is Pat Bryant, four catches for 42 yards on six targets.
8:08Cortland Sutton, only two for 11 on five targets.
8:10And Jalen Waddle, only one for two on three targets.
8:13So Pat Bryant clearly was the biggest target getter and was the most, you know, productive from that perspective.
8:18But wasn't on the field, wasn't running as many routes.
8:21Don't expect this to be the thing week in and week out.
8:24Clear cut number three receiver, but he played 57% of the snaps compared to Sutton and Waddle who were in the 70s.
8:30Numbers that may have been higher if they weren't just running out the clock.
8:34They actually kneeled out the game to end it because it was over.
8:38So that could change in the future. Similar in the backfield as well.
8:41RJ Harvey actually led in snaps 25 to 19 over JK Dobbins, but it was Dobbins early on.
8:46He's still the primary ball carrier. Harvey, clearly the primary guy in passing situations.
8:50Jonah Coleman only played three snaps. So he is an insurance option at best.
8:54You know, you don't have to keep him on your roster.
8:57You can cut him. We're going to talk waiver soon.
9:00You can cut him loose. But Harvey and Dobbins are the one-two punch.
9:03And honestly, we've said this several times this week already.
9:06Dead zone-y. Yeah. You know, they are in the dead zone.
9:09There's nothing really appealing about starting either of those guys.
9:12Maybe when the matchup's really good. Like if they're going to be a heavy favorite, which I don't know if they can
9:18be in the short term after the way they played last night.
9:21But when they have a, you know, it's going to look like a positive game script for them.
9:26Maybe JK Dobbins is a little more appealing, but mostly you're going to avoid.
9:30Yep. All right. Good call on this one. Did you take the Broncos or the Chiefs?
9:35I think I took Denver in this one, which was a bad call.
9:38That's a bad call by me. Yeah, that was a bad call.
9:41The Broncos, a major letdown, frankly, on both sides of the football.
9:45They still stopped the pass well. Both teams had a similar game plan offensively, which is like we don't even have wide receivers.
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9:56Otherwise, for Denver, it was a disaster. Chiefs, it was just running the football.
9:59But disappointing for Davis Webb in his first game calling plays.
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11:20Let's dive into the waiver wire targets here heading into week two, Mike.
11:24Week one is going to be a little bit of a more robust list than usual.
11:28We thought we'd be volume shooters here. Make sure we mention just a handful of guys that had some really good weeks.
11:34When we have field back next week, we'll be a little bit tighter on the guys that we're going to talk about.
11:40But we got a little bit more space here.
11:43Yeah, I agreed. We did this yesterday as well with recaps where we mentioned as many names as we could because you
11:49have to get that feel for where guys are.
11:51But, you know, I used Travis Hunter before the show we were talking about it.
11:56I used Travis Hunter as an example. Like, yeah, he had three opportunities on offense.
12:00We don't need to give you a Hunter update on offense every single week, right?
12:04If he's not an offensive factor. But now we know that.
12:07We got that out of the way in week one.
12:10And if something changes, we'll report back. Similar with waivers.
12:12We're going to roll through a bunch of names here.
12:15And these guys might be borderline waiver ads every week.
12:18But, you know, once we say, hey, don't bother.
12:20Yes. We'll report back. We'll let you know when it's time to bother.
12:24There's any news on some of these guys. But, yeah, let's roll through them.
12:28Exactly. All right. Let's start with Bryce Young. Scored 31.4 points, Michael.
12:31How much of this do you believe is Bryce Young?
12:34And is it worth considering on the waiver wire?
12:36And how much do you think it was because they played a team that scored 59 points?
12:41Yeah, it's definitely a big part of it. He, I guess, looked a little bit better at times than that one.
12:47Had a couple good throws. But I'm not buying this one yet.
12:50This is not a guy I will be targeting on waivers this week, even though he's available in almost 90% of leagues.
12:56It should probably stay about that way. Look, this guy has yet to finish the season better than 20th in passing yards,
13:0210th in rushing yards, or 24th in fantasy points per game.
13:05And here's the thing. He had a big game.
13:08And maybe you think, okay, maybe he's turning the corner.
13:11But, Daniel, it's not the first time. It's not.
13:13I've seen this before with him, okay? I'll give you some examples.
13:16Okay. Week 18 of 2024, 36 fantasy points. He comes out in the season opener last year, 8.2.
13:21Then in week two, he had 21 points. Next week, 12.
13:24Actually, he had 12 or fewer each of the next three games.
13:28Week 11 last year, 31.8. Very similar to what he did yesterday.
13:31Yeah. Next week, 8.3. And then week 13 last year, 22.5.
13:34All right, we're going back the right direction. Nope, 15.4 the following week.
13:38He also had a rushing touchdown in this game.
13:40He had three of them total all of last year.
13:43So, that's a little bit fluky. They play Atlanta this week.
13:46I think he's still a mid-to-back-end quarterback, too. No, thanks.
13:49Just not going to bother. You're not going to start him every week.
13:52Agreed. Not going to do it. I agree with you on that one, unfortunately.
13:56If we start to see something and this materializes more consistently, but I feel like you're showing me peaks and valleys in his game law.
14:03I love guys like that, and that's not who you, especially with the depth of quarterback, you don't need to bother with that.
14:09Exactly. So, unless you're in super flex, I just don't see the appeal of spending much fab on this.
14:15What about Tyler Shuck? Tyler Shuck, another guy that had a positive game script, unfortunately.
14:19Struggled in the first half of that game, taken on the Detroit Lions.
14:22Yep. Threw for over 400 yards. Three touchdowns. Clearly has a good relationship with Chris Olave.
14:27Worth maybe considering? Yeah. So, Bryce Young's available on 89% of ESPN leagues.
14:30Shuck is about half of ESPN. Okay. There's a big difference in this one.
14:34He was drafted as a QB2 quite a bit.
14:37If he is out there, yeah, I think he's a better QB2 than Bryce Young.
14:41Yes, he lit it up. Most of it was in the second half and overtime.
14:45But, a couple red flags here. First of all, he had 56 pass attempts, and he averaged 7.3 yards per attempt.
14:51That's exactly where he was last year in yards per attempt.
14:54So, keep in mind, this is very inflated, not by efficiency, but by volume, because of game script and the overtime.
15:00Something else that's concerning, eight rushing yards and four carries.
15:02Correct. We need a little bit more from Shuck if he's going to get into the quarterback one conversation.
15:08And, we kind of called a shot on this one coming into the week.
15:12He was in your start of the week. He was.
15:14I mean, they were playing the Lions, beat up secondary.
15:17Actually, it was really concerning how bad he started.
15:20First half was tough. Because of that matchup, but eventually it turned on and he got rolling.
15:24So, definitely some concerning things here, but some positives as well.
15:27This week's the big test. Yeah. They go to Baltimore.
15:30Obviously, the Ravens had a terrific week one defensively, so this is the big test for me.
15:35I think you just leave him on your bench.
15:37Yep. Week two, we'll see how it goes. If he looks good in week two, we might be having a different conversation.
15:43I think he's worth an add, and I as well would leave him on the bench against Baltimore this week, but I do like Tyler Shuck.
15:50Not often you can grab a guy off waivers that's leading the league in passing yards.
15:55So, you know, week one is always fun. Yeah, no doubt.
15:58From that perspective. By the way, a little bit of positivity I want to say on this.
16:03He had 23.2 fantasy points. That is with basically no rushing, like you had talked about.
16:07And he had two interceptions and a fumble. So, that's six points that he lost there because of turnovers.
16:12If he cleans up the turnovers, there's even more ceiling available there.
16:16So, like him as well. What about one more guy, one more person at quarterback?
16:20Jordan Love. I just think part of this is like the narrative of that running game looked so awful, Mike.
16:25Is this one of those things where it's like, they're just going to have to throw the ball a ton until we
16:31get more clarity on the Josh Jacobs situation? I don't know.
16:34I mean, Matt LaFleur's history is we're going to have a balanced, slow-moving offense to protect our defense, stay fresh.
16:40And I don't know if that's going to change necessarily.
16:43It might be by force if the defense really struggles.
16:45At some point, Micah Parsons will be back. Maybe the defense gets cleaned up.
16:49But I don't know. In the meantime, it's hard for me to see Love getting into the quarterback one conversation.
16:55I mean, look, he was sixth in 2023. So, he's dabbled with it.
16:58But he's been 17th and 21st the past two years.
17:01He only had five top 15 fantasy weeks all of last season.
17:04It's just hard for me to imagine a big change here.
17:07Keep in mind, he didn't have an especially great week one.
17:11He had 19.5 fantasy points. He averaged 17.5 per game last year.
17:14So, it wasn't that big of a difference. And, again, he was not good in fantasy.
17:18Also, non-factor with his legs. Zero rushing yards on one carry in this game.
17:22They do have a good matchup this week. They're playing the Jets, who allowed second-most fantasy points in week one to the opposing quarterback.
17:29So, wait, is that right? Who did they play in week one?
17:32That doesn't sound right. They played Minnesota. The Jets played the Titans in week one.
17:36Yeah, I don't think Cam Ward was QB2. He was not.
17:39That's wrong. I don't know why I said that.
17:42I don't know. Apparently, my Excel sheet is also in.
17:44Oh, no! I don't know what that's about. I don't care for it at all.
17:49But I will investigate and figure that out. In the meantime, though, yeah, I mean, against the Jets, which I view, I mean, let's just be frank.
17:56We don't have a lot of data on defenses yet.
17:59I think they're a mid-range defense. They're a lot better than they were last year.
18:03So, I'd consider this a neutral matchup. He's my early QB20 for the week.
18:07Not buying it here. Yeah. Not buying it. I understand if, especially in a super flex league, I would want to add
18:13him just because I think that the running game is so bad.
18:16There's a chance for high volume. But I'm not, I don't think there's necessarily a lot of production.
18:21I don't know. Those wide receivers looked really good.
18:24I got to give, because I have been out on Watson.
18:27You know that. They look really good. Again, if he's going to have, and he'll run a little more.
18:32Look, he's not going to have zero yards. Only a little.
18:35But, you know, it didn't, I'd feel better if you were like, all right, he had, you know, six carries for 27 yards or something.
18:42One carry for zero yards is a big difference.
18:44And again, he didn't even get to 20 points.
18:47So, this one is not appealing to me. All right.
18:50Let's talk about some running backs then, Mike. This will be quick.
18:53Mike. I know that reference. Hey. That is Disney.
18:55Good company man right there. That's right. That's right.
18:58We're going to start with Tyler Algier, because Tyler Algier, 17 carries, Michael.
19:0161. Already. Thanks on the 17 carries. Oh, okay.
19:04Okay. 61 yards, two catches for nine yards, only nine fantasy points.
19:07But this is just as much, in my estimation, a conversation about maybe another week of having nice flex value with where
19:13Jeremiah Love is at, as well as potential insurance back for the rest of the season.
19:18Uh, he's my early RB 50 for this week.
19:2050, Michael! So, no. Uh, look, he's, first of all, this guy is, uh, rostered about a little over 40% of leagues.
19:26He still doesn't have much standalone value to me.
19:29Still an insurance back. They play Seattle this week, which, first of all, is very tough.
19:33It's going to be hard to justify this guy.
19:36He did hold an edge in carries by six over Love, 17 to 11, but he was already behind in the passing game department.
19:42Love, 14 to 12 in routes, had that edge, and four to two.
19:46In targets, yes, Algier had the edge in carries and snaps.
19:49But they spent the third overall pick on Jeremiah Love, and he looks awesome.
19:53He looks awesome. If his role doesn't just progressively increase something, there's a problem with decision making, I feel like.
19:58I don't know why that wouldn't change. Um, Maliflor did say that Love was not on a pitch count necessarily, but it
20:04was kind of how the game was going. They were ahead in this game, surprisingly.
20:09Yep. And that led to, let's just lean on Algier down the stretch in a game that was not, not really competitive
20:15once they got control of that game. I mean, the Chargers couldn't score.
20:18Like, it just, the Cardinals had control of it.
20:21So, I think as the games are more competitive, you're going to see more and more Jeremiah Love.
20:26I'm projecting him for a slight edge in carries this week, and obviously to continue leading in the passing game department.
20:31But again, very tough matchup for both backs. Yes.
20:34Not going to be great either way. I would push back and just say that I think he needs to be rostered,
20:40again, as one of the most important insurance backs.
20:42If anything did happen or Jeremiah Love were to retweak an ankle, he looks to me, at least after week one.
20:48Yeah. I hear what you're saying. I think that there's a big, huge pile of like borderline rosterable guys.
20:54Yeah. A lot of them are insurance running backs.
20:56And you kind of just have to say, there's five insurance running backs.
21:00I'm just going to pick one and it's a lottery ticket for the end of my bench.
21:04And I think he fits that bill. I think the, I think the problem with some of those guys too is like,
21:10yeah, Algier might week to week outscore. Or like, I don't know, Braylon Allen or Kalen Black or Ray Davis, but are you ever going to start him?
21:18And I don't think that you're going to. Unless Jeremiah Love gets injured.
21:22Yeah. Right. But that's what I'm saying. He doesn't have standalone value.
21:25So your bench is just for those guys who if someone else goes down, they become startable, but he just doesn't have, he just doesn't have standalone value.
21:33Let's talk about Kalen Black then. Cause you mentioned him with the way that CMC looked and the split that they had.
21:39Do you think that Kalen Black is at least worth a dart throw here on the waiver wire?
21:44Yes. I think he's very much like Algier. He's fine for your bench.
21:47We did get new information from when we react, when we initially reacted to this game.
21:52Like why was CMC not, what do you have two carries in the first half?
21:56He was dealing with cramps going into the game.
21:58So that's why Kalen Black got more run. He had 14 carries, just one target in the game.
22:03So he does not have standalone value at this point.
22:06You're going to see more and more CMC as the year goes on.
22:10He's just not going to be limited like that as he was as a rusher.
22:14The good news is, you know, much like the bears in week one, you might have two fantasy relevant running backs in this one.
22:20They're playing Miami here at home. So they're both going to be busy.
22:24And if they're in control, you might see Kalen Black a little extra in the second half of this game, the reverse of last week.
22:31So I'm not going to start him. I have him at 43.
22:34So you'd have to be in a deep league to throw him in your flex.
22:38I just think you have more reliable options. And I still feel better about CMC as the player back in San Francisco.
22:44Nothing bold there by any means. But again, Adam, to the near the front of the long list of insurance running backs.
22:51I have Kalen Black in a handful of leagues because of my concern about CMC long term.
22:55I definitely think he should at least be rostered.
22:58And if he's not rostered, at least be on your Doppler radar as you move through these weights.
23:03Doppler radar? Doppler radar. Yeah, 15% is too low.
23:05I would agree with that. We're at 15% rostered for Black.
23:08We're at 42% for Algier. They should be closer.
23:11They should be much closer. Yeah. Yeah. Let's dive into some wide receivers.
23:14Wide receiver is where it gets tricky, Michael. Because we had a lot of big guys in week one that we could consider.
23:21Let's start with Jalen Coker because Jalen Coker, much like with Bryce Young, had a massive game against the Chicago Bears.
23:26Eight catches. 138 yards. Two touchdowns. Mm-hmm. 33.8 fantasy points.
23:29That seems good. This guy's been a sleeper and he's been on the sleeper radar for a while.
23:34A name that has been on the, you know, we're waiting for him to potentially do more.
23:39Is week one the coming out party or are you still holding out hope?
23:43Is he at least worth adding? Let's start there.
23:45Is he at least worth adding off of waivers?
23:48He's available in half of ESPN leagues. Certainly a guy that scores almost 34 points.
23:52You want to add to your bench at the very minimum.
23:55Am I starting him yet? Maybe. I have him at 33 in my initial rankings.
23:59We'll dive into that more tomorrow. But borderline top 30 option.
24:02He was very impressive in this game. And also cemented as, I'm going to say the number two receiver.
24:07I know he outscored and out-targeted Tedderone McMillan. Tedderone McMillan was an early first round pick last year.
24:12The guy was very impressive as a rookie. Agreed.
24:15They both were the only two Panthers to get to five targets in this game.
24:19So McMillan wasn't his day per se, but it might be his day next week.
24:23I think both guys are fantasy starting caliber options, but McMillan's still the better player.
24:27I will say this though. Much like what we talked about earlier with Bryce Young, we've seen this from Jalen Coker.
24:33We have. If Young comes back to earth, Coker may as well.
24:36I look back at his career so far. Coker, 22 career games in which he played over 50% of the snaps.
24:42He's had 14 fantasy points eight times, but has been held under eight points 12 times.
24:46Even more so. But since he's gotten healthy late last season, he's been good.
24:50He has 16 plus fantasy points in three straight games going back to last year.
24:54Play Atlanta this week. It's a secondary I think you can get behind and make some plays against.
24:59Big divisional game for the Carolina Panthers. So yeah, when it comes down to it, I think he is very much now
25:05in the wide receiver three slash flex discussion. Super talented wide receiver that I agree.
25:10Once you get into the, if he's in the flex consideration now, once we get into bye weeks, that means he could
25:16bump up even a little bit higher as you're taking guys out of the player pool.
25:20I think he's one of the bigger ads based on what he did at the wide receiver spot this week.
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26:19Void where prohibited. What about Devon Vele? We saw him also do really well.
26:23Seven for 69 and a touchdown on nine targets.
26:2619.9 fantasy points. Again, some of this is the game script that we talked about with the Saints going into overtime, having
26:32to catch up with the Detroit Lions. Until Jordan Tyson comes back, though, did you see enough from him as the wide
26:38receiver, too, that he might be worth it for fantasy managers?
26:41Yeah, a little bit. I mean, this is one of them weird ones where last week we were saying all the positive
26:47things about Vele because we kind of saw a good game coming for him, and now you have to, like, kind of bring people back to earth.
26:54You know, I like to do that. If you're too high, I'm going to bring you here.
26:59If you're too low, I'm going to bring you here, right?
27:02So that's what I'm going to do. Yes, he played 78 snaps in week one.
27:06Most teams didn't have 78 snaps. They had 86 at the Saints because of the overtime situation.
27:11Nine targets. But that's important context here, okay? Nine targets, 86 snaps.
27:14That's a 17% target share did he have. That's not an especially good number.
27:18That's, like, maybe a flex, but 17%. You need that proper context there.
27:22Did fine. He had seven for 69 and a touchdown.
27:24Remember, last year, he had an eight for 93 in a touchdown game.
27:28That was his only game with 12-plus fantasy points last season.
27:31It was. They only played basically six healthy games as the number two.
27:35But still, like, we've seen this from him before.
27:37They're playing the Ravens this week. Much tougher matchup, as we noted earlier.
27:41So, for me, going to be borderline top 50.
27:43I'm going to say in 12 team leagues, deep ones, maybe he's in your flex, but probably not.
27:48And I would say it would be tough once Jordan Tyson comes back, and as long as Jordan Tyson stays healthy, there's a big if with that statement.
27:56It would seem like he would probably fall back into the third or fourth pass catcher role.
28:00He's only going to have a short-term value for you if you do pick him up.
28:05Yeah, he won't be startable in that scenario, so now's the only time you can maybe take advantage.
28:10But, again, he's available in about 87% of ESPN leagues.
28:13You can add him to your bench if you want.
28:15I think he's fine to add to your bench, but I don't think he's going to be usable much this season, so
28:21I'm not going to spend much there. But let's put two guys together that led their teams in receiving just like we expected.
28:28Now we're getting into the good stuff. Now we're getting into the good stuff.
28:32This is going to be fun. Kendrick Bourne for the Cardinals, who smashed and obviously outperformed both Michael Wilson and Marvin Harrison Jr., had 15.5 fantasy points.
28:39And Kalief Raymond, who led the Bears in receiving as well with eight catches in this one in week one.
28:45Are either of these two veterans, given the number of mouths to feed in their offenses, worth putting a dart on in the waivers?
28:51I have a lot to say here. Why'd you combine them?
28:54We have a long time to go here. Okay, bring it.
28:57We have plenty of time to talk. No, no, no.
29:00All right. Then let's start with Kendrick Bourne. Yeah, we'll start with Kendrick Bourne.
29:04I was half kidding here. First of all, Bourne did play a lot in this game.
29:08You look at pass routes. McBride, 33. Marvin Harrison.
29:11Or, excuse me, let's start with Wilson. Michael Wilson, 35.
29:14McBride, 33. Marvin Harrison, 32. Kendrick Bourne, 28. So he was out there plenty when they were throwing the football.
29:19But, look, he had a 21% target share in this game.
29:22It's the 13th highest he's had in a game in his 134-game career.
29:26He's 31 years old. That's going to come down.
29:28Also, remember, he played a pretty big role for the 49ers in the first half of last season.
29:33He averaged four and a half targets and 8.8 fantasy points per game during that span.
29:38This guy has never been consistently fantasy relevant. You know, he's had runs here or there during certain seasons.
29:43They're going to Seattle or they're hosting Seattle this week.
29:46It's hard for me to imagine that this guy is going to be a flex option, let alone worth adding.
29:51He's 0.1% rostered. I mean, I'm not putting claims in for Kendrick Bourne.
29:55I am with you on that one, especially with all the other options in this offense.
29:59It feels like they have... When you just go through the pecking order of who does Arizona want to put the ball in the hands of?
30:06Jeremiah Love, Trey McBride, Michael Wilson, who they paid $75 million to, Marvin Harrison Jr., who they just want to be good at football, please.
30:13I'm with you, unfortunately. This was more of a pass.
30:16If this continues and they're just not going to throw it to Harrison at all, then they might as well trade him.
30:22Like, what are you doing? I mean, there's no way the game plan is just not to use Marvin Harrison.
30:28It's not going to go that way. That might be what Marvin Harrison needs.
30:31It's just like a change of scenery, new place.
30:34Let's try to get into a new dude. Maybe, but again, I mentioned this all offseason.
30:38In those four games last year with Michael Wilson, Trey McBride, and Jacoby Brissett, the four games they played, and Harrison was involved as well.
30:45He outscored Wilson in all of them, and his fantasy production was pretty good.
30:49He averaged around 14 fantasy points a game. So I'm not giving up on this one yet.
30:54I think, you know, Harrison's less of an appealing start this week, but I think there's a chance he bounces back.
31:00All right. Michael Clay has not given up on Marvin Harrison Jr.
31:03Ben Johnson not giving up on Kalief Raymond. He gave up on him in Detroit, so why would he not?
31:08But then he brought him to Chicago, and of all the people that could lead the Bears in receiving, it wasn't Luther Burden.
31:15It wasn't Roma Dunzey. It wasn't Colston Loveland. No, it was the safety blanket.
31:19Kalief Raymond, Michael. Again, let's talk a little bit about usage in this game.
31:22Let's talk about it. Colston Loveland led the team with 32 pass routes.
31:26He's going to be fine. Luther Burden was second with 25.
31:29Roma Dunzey, who was limited a lot in the first half of this game.
31:33He was not playing a lot, which certainly helped Kalief Raymond.
31:36He was still fourth with 21. Kalief Raymond, yes, 8 for 84 and 9 targets in this game.
31:41He is 32 years old and a career depth player.
31:44He's never had more than... I'm just going to give you some numbers here.
31:48Please. I know the numbers. I don't want people to waste fab on this one.
31:52I don't feel my disagree, but he's never had more than 652 scrimmage yards in a season.
31:56He's been held under 300 yards each of the past two seasons.
32:00One of those was with Ben Johnson in Detroit.
32:02Yes. He might hit for the occasional big play, especially in this offense, but he's so far down.
32:07This guy has... He's played 10 seasons, Daniel. How many touchdowns do you think he has in 10 seasons?
32:12Offensively. I was going to say offensive touchdowns. Maybe four.
32:15Ten. Which one per season. I mean, really bad.
32:18Really bad. He is not a... Listen, I watched him a lot when he played for my Detroit Lions.
32:23He is that guy that when he needs to step in, the coaches love because he'll be in the spot that you tell him to be in.
32:30He runs his routes. He's really good about that stuff.
32:33But no, he's not going to be like a consistent contributor.
32:36Where we will be a consistent contributor is usually on special teams.
32:39He's a really good returner. Yeah. And that's not going to do anything for us here in fantasy more often than not.
32:46I've watched him return a number of kicks for touchdowns.
32:48But I am with you, unfortunately, with all the other people in this offense.
32:52As much as I love Khalif Raymond, and we saw this in week one, if this happens again, it means things have gone terribly wrong in Chicago.
33:00Yeah, exactly right. You just have too many mouths to feed.
33:03You have the running backs. You have Caleb Williams running in addition to passing.
33:07And then you have Burden, Odunze, and Loveland. There's just no path here.
33:10There's no path for Raymond to be a consistent fantasy option.
33:13You're right. If you're putting up flex numbers, there's a problem somewhere.
33:16Something's going on. Yes. So again, much like Bourne, I'm not spending a penny on Khalif Raymond.
33:21If I'm wrong, I'll take the L on it.
33:24And by the way, they play Minnesota this week, which, you know, they're outstanding against wide receivers.
33:28I mean, it's going to be – I know they weren't in week one.
33:32A couple guys got behind them. But this is a very good defense.
33:36They shut them down last year. What about someone younger then?
33:39All right. You don't like the old guys. Let's talk about Caleb Douglas.
33:42Now we're talking. Caleb Douglas was exciting. He was already like a low-end sleeper.
33:46Who's going to be the guy that emerges in this Miami Dolphins receiving core?
33:50Five for 94 on seven targets, 14 and a half fantasy points in week one.
33:54Did you see enough to make him at least a waiver target for you?
33:58Yes. Maybe my favorite target other than Jalen Coker on this list.
34:01Wow. Okay, love that. This is the guy I'm going after.
34:04The Dolphins are looking for a number one wide receiver.
34:07And he had a 26% target share in this game.
34:10There was a clear one-two puncher receiver. It was Malik Washington, who – Yep.
34:14He's not going to emerge as fantasy relevant. And then Caleb Douglas, who perhaps could.
34:18He's looked the part. And I did a little digging because I was like, man, first NFL game, not season, first NFL game for a third-round receiver.
34:25When you came in, you looked like you'd been out digging.
34:28I have been. I've been out digging stats. I could tell.
34:32That's what I was doing late last night. Oh, okay.
34:34Like, even like Klee Freeman and Kendrick Bourne, just like digging up random stats about why these guys are not mid-wave rads.
34:40Yes. But I looked at Caleb Douglas' production in this game.
34:43He had 94 receiving yards. How does that compare over the past decade to wide receivers in their first game?
34:49And look at this list on your screen. This is the most receiving yards by rookie wide receivers in week one over the past decade.
34:56Here's the list. Mark Keese Brown has won. Terry McLaren, Huka Nakua, Jamar Chase, A.J.
35:00Brown, Caleb Douglas, D.K. Metcalf, Zee Flowers, Cooper Cup, Drake London.
35:03Find me one guy on there who's a bad fantasy option.
35:06Wow. Or who has been a bad fantasy option.
35:08So he had the sixth most receiving yards ever as a rookie wide receiver.
35:12That's incredible. 14 and a half fantasy points was really legit as well.
35:16I mean, imagine if this offense had found the end zone or had more scoring opportunities available to them, what that could have meant as well.
35:23I know. But I mean, look at the guys around him.
35:26If that's a... That's a good list, Mike. Exactly.
35:29All of these guys are weekly fantasy starters right now, except, well, The weakest one is at the top.
35:34Yeah, Hollywood Brown. Number one. But again, Hollywood Brown, the next, what, five years after that was a weekly fantasy starter.
35:40Yes. So Barry, if that's an indicator, that's a really good sign.
35:43If he doesn't turn out to be a good NFL player, then he's an exception to that rule.
35:48So that gives me a point in the right direction, as is the fact that he played 45 of 50 snaps in this game, led the team in...
35:56He was... Or he was up there. He was second in targets to Malik Washington in this game.
36:01But only two receivers from Miami played more than half the snaps.
36:04It was Washington and Douglas, to my earlier point.
36:06Much tougher matchup this week. Yes. They're playing the Niners.
36:09Remember, they held Matthew Stafford to 155 yards and no touchdowns in week one.
36:13So, tempering expectations. Douglas still a borderline top 50 play.
36:16Not going on my flex yet, but Daniel, he's available in 84% of ESPN leagues.
36:20We talked about him as like a late round flyer during draft season.
36:24We already liked him. Yep. And so that remains the case.
36:27This guy should be on benches. All right. So let me ask you this question then.
36:31Because with it being week one, sometimes the hype really helps or hurts a player or managers when they're trying to make a decision, right?
36:38Because you kind of get emotional about what you think a player can be.
36:42When we're talking about fab, and not everyone uses fab.
36:45We're talking waivers. But give me fab and the order that you would do it.
36:49But we've seen Jalen Coker at times flash. We know what he can bring to the table.
36:53Would you prioritize him and spend a little bit more on him, knowing that he is also potentially the number two in that offense?
37:00Or would you go with the young flashy rookie in Caleb Douglas, who has a chance to be the wide receiver one of his squad?
37:07All right. You know what I don't like about this is we're in a lot of leagues together.
37:12Yes, I know. I know. Trust me. So the people listening.
37:15So the people in our ear. So is Field, who's probably out there listening somewhere.
37:19This is great information for the people, is what it is.
37:22I don't want to tell you. Can I tell you tomorrow?
37:25No, you can't tell me tomorrow. Can I whisper?
37:28You don't listen? Yeah, look, Coker, I'm going to, as I just said, he's more of the priority.
37:33But I'm not going to get too carried away.
37:35I think he does cap out as a wide receiver three.
37:38So I'm probably looking in the 15% range. So $100, $15.
37:41Douglas, probably more like $5. Again, I'm still worried about this offense overall.
37:45I don't know if Douglas is going to get to a weekly flex or wide receiver three.
37:49It's possibly certainly the best bet right now from this group.
37:52Maybe in the $8 range for Caleb Douglas. It also depends on my situation.
37:56If it's in a 10-team league and my bench is low, like I have a 10-team league that are FFC league where Roma Dunze is on my bench.
38:04I think I have like Debo. Like I have a lot of good guys.
38:08I don't have to spend a lot there. I need that capital for other positions potentially.
38:12So I might not be as aggressive. But 12-team leagues, yeah, I might be a little more aggressive, especially if you start
38:18three receivers and a flex like we do in a lot of our mats.
38:22All right. Let's talk about a couple more rookie wide receivers really quickly.
38:26Antonio Williams found the end zone. I mean, that was not a lot looked great, unfortunately, for the commanders in this one.
38:32You're buying Antonio Williams potentially. I like the four for 64 and a touchdown.
38:36That part was nice. That was really good. The problem is we talked about this yesterday.
38:40He ran 10 pass routes in this game. That was fourth, not third, fourth at receiver.
38:45Wait, doesn't that mean that he was targeted on 40% of his routes?
38:48Why didn't you start with that stat? Yeah, well, if he plays 40 snaps, then that's notable.
38:53Then that's notable. But Terry McLaren's Fondake still the one-two punch there.
38:56McLaren had a dud game. That's, you know, he very well could bounce back in a big way in week two and Williams disappears.
39:03But also, Diami Brown was third in line. Now, if Williams is able to leap Diami Brown, then you think maybe.
39:09But then you're like, wait, but they still have Terry McLaren and Stephon Diggs.
39:12And Jemiel Conk will miss some time in this game.
39:15He'll be healthy. Jaden Daniels is still going to add a lot with his legs.
39:19It's hard to see Williams getting to the flex conversation.
39:22So I agree. Like him in Dynasty, not there in season long.
39:25To add him, I would need an injury to McLaren or Diggs.
39:29What about with David Boston? David Boston. Sorry, Denzel Boston.
39:31Apologies. Yeah, Denzel Boston. You're not the first person to do that.
39:35Casey Concepcion is there. Harold Fannin is there. He did have 13.9 fantasy points, but he only had two catches, and it was just because of that touchdown.
39:43You buying into it, potentially? I'm not there yet.
39:45The touchdown was in clear garbage time. Yes. I mean, the game was added.
39:49And Deshaun Watson was horrendous until then. Maybe when Shador Sanders gets there.
39:52The good news for Boston is he was their number one receiver in this game.
39:57Easily in snaps. He ran 24 routes. Judy ran 20.
39:59Concepcion ran 15. So it was a clear edge for Boston as the number one perimeter option.
40:04I don't know if Watson's going to get him there.
40:07Watson's going to start in week two. It sounds like Todd Monk has said there were some good things on tape.
40:13I'd like to weigh in. Watson's not going to get him there.
40:16That's just, I'll put that out there. Yeah, I would agree with that.
40:20I think Shador Sanders, if he plays a little YOLO ball, maybe he can get it done for him.
40:25But Boston is available in 75% of ESPN leagues.
40:27I'm fine to leave him on my bench. I think he's, I still think it's Concepcion in terms of who I prefer.
40:33He was drafted earlier, but more importantly, they manufacture touches for him.
40:37He had three carries in the game in addition to his target.
40:40So Concepcion's still my preferred Browns receiver. But Boston, I think there's a good chance he's the real deal as a football player.
40:46So that's enough for me to just keep guys like that on my bench.
40:50What we need is for Cleveland to give the car keys, obviously, to Shador Sanders and let Shador play the YOLO ball that you talk about.
40:57And we need to have like the Jameis Winston type season out of Shador Sanders.
41:01I hope so. Like that's what I, if I could comp him, especially with what this Browns team is going to be,
41:08they're not going to be super competitive. He's going to have to throw the ball a ton.
41:12Unfortunately, it might cap some of the running back value that we have in Quinchan Judkins.
41:17But that's what we need to happen for both of these wide receivers is just let Shador be a young kid slinging
41:23it because this offense doesn't have a whole lot else anyways.
41:26And they go to Tampa Bay this week. It's gonna be very similar to Jacksonville.
41:30I think the situation will be similar. Probably if Tampa Bay jump ahead in this game, the Cleveland defense is not as good as it used to be.
41:38They're going to be playing from behind. Maybe you get some garbage time, but then maybe when they come back home, maybe
41:44you see a switch in quarterbacks if Watson struggles.
41:46But this is not the week to start a Cleveland pass catcher.
41:49Can you imagine? Maybe Fannin, but probably not. You have Harold Fannin, who's unbelievable.
41:53You just drafted two first round wide receivers and Quinchan Judkins.
41:56And the guy that you put out there to lead the entire thing is just not taking advantage of any of the weapons that you're putting out there.
42:04I mean, they're trying to make it work. So bad.
42:07I, you know, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.
42:10I think the plan there was that you can't really do it the opposite way.
42:14I know. If Sanders struggles, you got to start this way.
42:17And then you have to take a look at Watson.
42:20I think you just kind of get it out of the way with these two early road games.
42:25And if he, you know, if he surprises and does well, good.
42:28If, if he's, if he doesn't, everyone's been ready for Shador Sanders for a while.
42:33So you make the switch. So I think it's coming pretty soon.
42:36Mike, this is a two part true or false question.
42:39Part one, true or false. Dontavian Wicks wide receiver one in Philly.
42:42Part two should be considered on waiver wires. False.
42:44And maybe again, there's just so many names. It's like, you can only keep so many guys in your roster, right?
42:50Yeah. So, uh, again, I kind of stand by what I said in the off season and maybe even more so now.
42:56Can the Eagle support a second wide receiver, especially with another good Dallas Goddard game?
43:00That guy's not going anywhere. You have Barkley. You have Goddard.
43:03Devontae Smith will have many better days. I don't know if there's room for anyone else.
43:08And the reason I say even more so now, first of all, he had four targets in this game.
43:13Yes. 73 and a touchdown. Yes. He's been boom, boom, bust throughout his career.
43:17That sounds like a stat line from Green Bay right there.
43:20He did run 24 of 28 pass routes, but Smith ran 25 and Makai Lemon, who missed a lot of the off season, 23.
43:27So he's already a factor in this offense and he was a first round pick.
43:31So at some point you would expect his role to continue to increase in terms of targets or touches per snap.
43:37Um, I'm, I'm pessimistic on this one. They go to Tennessee.
43:40Maybe he can get behind a corner and get another long touchdown, but I have them.
43:44My early ranks have him at 60. So obviously I'm not prioritizing a guy that's available in 90% of ESPN leagues right now.
43:50I would agree. This feels like, uh, I've seen this movie before kind of a thing.
43:55And then if it becomes more consistent, he'll be one of the guys that's just on, on my radar as a part of it.
44:01But until I feel like there's something more there, it's just, this feels like a classic Dontavian Wicks game.
44:07He would have to cement the number two job.
44:09And I, I think week one showed us that that's not going to happen.
44:13Yeah. Lemon's there. He's a factor. There's just too many mouths to feed in the Eagles offense.
44:18Isn't as good as it was a few years ago either.
44:21Yep. You know, they're not scoring three, 3.3 touchdowns a game.
44:24It's not as good. So nah, not buying it.
44:26Let's talk about a couple of tight ends here really quickly.
44:29Kenyon Sadiq found the end zone as a rusher.
44:32Sure did. We've been waiting for rookie tight ends and not maybe not waiting, but we've seen a lot of rookie tight ends be valuable.
44:39He wasn't really drafted because we didn't think he was going to be a guy.
44:43Didn't have a lot of time in the off season here.
44:46Did you see enough in week one from a usage standpoint to maybe consider adding him?
44:50Yeah, definitely. Again, he, he, I would put him in my top five waiver ads here.
44:55If he's available on waivers, I'll probably go through and we'll prioritize.
44:58Yeah. I'll put a couple bucks toward him. Remember I talked about this in the off season.
45:03The last, I think it's six tight ends drafted in the first round finished top 12 and fantasy points as a rookie.
45:09Uh, Kenyon Sadiq of course was the first round pick for the jets.
45:12And I was, I felt pretty good about his usage considering he also missed a big chunk of the off season.
45:18It looked like with Jeremy record there and obviously Mason Taylor involved that Sadiq probably wouldn't be a factor at all in week one.
45:25And instead he plays over 41% of the snaps, 46% of the pass routes.
45:29Again, I thought for week one, that would be much lower.
45:32It was not three targets, 21 yards. There had the three yard rushing touchdown, which is good.
45:36Um, he did run four fewer routes than Mason Taylor in this game.
45:40Keep in mind a rare game for the jets in which game script very much was in their favor for them.
45:46Yeah. They're playing the Packers this week. You would expect them probably to be competitive or trailing in this one.
45:51Uh, and that's going to open up more and more for Sadiq as the year goes on.
45:56So yes, a player of this caliber that is massive receiving upside.
45:59That is what your bench was built for. Okay.
46:02This isn't bi-weeks, Daniel. No, you don't need, you don't need depth.
46:05You don't need like, I don't know, wide receiver 45, like, cause you need to plug them into your flex for the week.
46:11This it's built for upside, especially this point of the season he's available in about two thirds of ESPN league.
46:17So I would keep a scoop up a city.
46:19All right. What about Mike is sickie? Obviously the number one wide receiver.
46:23Okay. Passing on Mike is sickie. I'm okay with you just saying that because we can move on.
46:28Honestly, just keep in mind. He played 33% of the snaps, a lot of targets, but, uh, he had last year, he
46:34played more than this and average five and a half fantasy points per game in the same offense.
46:39And he just doesn't, he scored exactly two touchdowns down three.
46:42No. Yeah. Apparently Mike is sick. He is not the new Jamar chase.
46:46No, he is not. No. Unsubscribe to that. Here's the thing.
46:49Mike is sick. He had more targets, more receptions, more receiving yards, more touchdowns and more fantasy points than Jamar chase Anteagans combined.
46:55Yeah. I doubt that happens again. Chase that and good luck to your fantasy season.
46:59Yeah. What about David and Joku? David and Joku in a new home now over in LA.
47:04Mike, did you see something there? Because we don't really have a number one tight end.
47:08Yeah. He, I mean, he was the leading pass catcher there.
47:11Uh, he initially was listed third on their depth chart, which was like, ah, maybe actually is behind gas situations.
47:17That was not the case. As our colleague here, Michael F.
47:20Florio points out, led the Chargers tight ends with 29 snaps.
47:23That was 57% snap share. Also led in routes.
47:25And, uh, with targets around a Gatson, just eight snaps.
47:28So Gatson's a guy, if you took a late flyer on him, I mean, I could not have been more out on
47:34that guy in the off season, kind of, you know, cut him loose.
47:38And Joku's the guy that you can keep as a tight end too, but not startable.
47:42Charlie Kolar is going to have a big role as a blocker as well.
47:46Lad McConkie. We have to keep an eye on that.
47:49We actually didn't mention that yet. We'll get into that this week.
47:52Lad McConkie, uh, is not fully healthy. He's considered day to day right now.
47:56I expect him to play this week, but if he's out, maybe in Joku sneaks into the top 15 to tight end,
48:02but I wouldn't prioritize in Joku on waivers. Yeah.
48:05What about Pat Frymouth? Pat Frymouth found the end zone being that nice blanket for Aaron Rogers worth it at the tight end spot.
48:11Yeah. Yeah. This one is definitely more interesting to me than Gusecki, uh, five for 46 and a touchdown in this one.
48:17It was his best fantasy game since he had 28 points in week seven last season.
48:22That was the only game of 12 points all of last year.
48:25So that might say, wow, I might tell you to stay away.
48:28However, he was only on the field for 54% or his route participation.
48:32Cause sometimes your pass blocking is a tight end.
48:34His route participation was 54% last year, 72% in this game.
48:37That's a big number for a tight end. So when they're throwing the ball over 70% of the time he's running a
48:43route, that is a good sign that maybe he can get back into that tight end one conversation.
48:48So, uh, for me, mid range tight end two for now, but he's going the right direction.
48:53Possibly could get into that top 12 conversation. So as far as week one goes, I just want to run through really quickly priority targets at each position.
49:01If we were at the quarterback spot, Mike, we would both agree.
49:04Tyler Shuck would be the guy that we would be going after there from the running back spot.
49:09Kalen Black or Tyler Algier, which one would you go in with or neither of them?
49:14I would lean toward black, I guess, but it's really the answer is no stand-alone value.
49:18Okay. For the wide receiver spot. It sounds like Jalen Coker and Caleb Douglas are the two obvious at the top.
49:24They're the top two overall as well. Those are the guys I'll be looking at.
49:28Agreed. And then at the tight end spot, Kenyon Sadiq because of what we saw and the pedigree where they drafted him
49:34and what he could potentially be in an island position for us.
49:37Yes. Agreed. Sound good? That's it. Love that. Not, not the strongest waiver I we've had post week one, but there's some okay names.
49:44There's some names and there's enough names that we had to mention given what they did in week one.
49:49Like we said, the waiver wire will be tighter in the following weeks.
49:53We just want to make sure we get to as many people as we can.
49:57I think if you forget to do waivers in week one, you're like, oh, it's, you know, we're back here.
50:02It's the first week. Oh no, I forgot to do waivers.
50:05You're not going to, it's not going to crush you.
50:08Correct. You'll be all right. Other years, it would be a problem.
50:11Not this year. I should have had that one.
50:14You should have had that one in the bag.
50:16I'm not the best in the business. Yeah. I'm still in progress, you know.
50:20Them Bengals boys, PTO during fantasy football season. You know, I know.
50:24Who would do that? Who would dare? At least I save mine for preseason.
50:28Oh, is that? Okay. Yes. Like some people. Yes, exactly.
50:30Eugene's 203. Should I be worried about having Devonta Smith in two leagues?
50:34No, he'll be okay. He's going to have a big target share.
50:37They're going to feature him. They're going to move around the formation.
50:40Definitely will. He will not panicking on Devonta Smith just yet.
50:44No. And their schedule, by the way, remember, the regular season is outstanding.
50:47Yep. It does get very tough in the fantasy playoffs.
50:50So keep that in mind. After maybe a few good games, I mean, it's like your trade deadline and he's crushing it
50:56and he's wide receiver nine for the season or something.
50:59That's your time to maybe consider it if you're going for a title run.
51:03Agreed. Shout out to everybody in the chat, by the way, that joined us.
51:06Me and Eric Moody, mostly Eric Moody on Sunday.
51:09Sunday, fantasy-focused Sunday kickoff was a ton of fun being able to hang out and answer questions from you guys in chat.
51:15Go back and check it out again as a part of the second screen experience.
51:19Another one we have here from the mailbag, Birdmatic wants to know, do I panic on Drake London or is Panic's coming back stat?
51:26That is one guy we have not talked about yet, really.
51:29And Drake London, I mean, he was certainly clipped by the quarterback.
51:32This isn't Drake London's fault. Are you panicking going into week two if they don't have someone else under center?
51:38Week two? Yeah, probably a little. Okay. The squirt that came across your face as you thought about it.
51:43It depends who the quarterback is. If it's Tua, I feel fine.
51:46Tua, if you want to man, he's at least able to get the ball in the hands of his pass catcher.
51:52Agreed. Michael Penix, if he's back, which I thought, if you look at the projections now for week two, I have Penix
51:58in there because initially it sounded like he might go this week.
52:01Now it's sounding a little more pessimistic. So we'll see if it's, but again, if it's Tua or Panix, I'm fine.
52:07If it's Cooper Rush, I'm going to have to move him down a bit because that was.
52:12That was really bad. That was not great from Cooper Rush last week.
52:15And again, he didn't even really try to get it to him.
52:19He was just like, Bajon, Bajon, Bajon, literally over half the time.
52:22So not good. Panic long-term? No. Panic for week two.
52:25If Rush is the quarterback, yeah, we're going to move him.
52:28Potentially, yes. Yeah, with you on that. All right.
52:30One more question we have here from our chat.
52:33This one comes from Carnivore Lifestyle. Too many words.
52:35It did not fit on the screen. I won my knockout league by .3 points, avoiding elimination, Xavier Worthy.
52:41Well, I don't want to have you panic and ruin your day, but just keep in mind scoring adjustments come tomorrow morning.
52:47Oh, no. Make sure you check tomorrow morning. Oh, no.
52:49Although, how does that work? Wait, how does that work for knockout?
52:53That's a great question. All of your players were cut loose for the other team.
52:57So maybe scoring corrections are a non-factor in knockout.
52:59Good question, Michael. Think about that, actually. We'll have to look into it a little bit.
53:04That is interesting. But anyway, in other leagues, if you won by a couple points.
53:08Yeah. Scoring corrections Wednesday morning. You know, one of the people that might have helped you win by a couple points was
53:14one, Cole Komet, who was chosen as a Raheem Sanders Fund of the Week.
53:18Raheem Sanders Monopoly Fund. I took Cole Komet, found his way into the end zone, rostered in less than 1% of leagues.
53:24We are already starting out on fire. Honestly, even with the rest of these picks, Khalif Raymond didn't find the end zone, but he was so heavily utilized.
53:32We talked to him about him in the waiver wire section.
53:35Hutchinson was the two for Houston as well. He played a ton of snaps as we thought, which is why I went
53:41that direction, but he did not get near the end zone in that one.
53:45No, unfortunately not. Three great picks. Good call, though.
53:47Yeah. Killed it. Coming out firing. Love that. Some reaction on social because people just get it.
53:52Like, we just continue to hit these. You know, if we, I'd say if we get one every other week on average,
53:58that's a pretty darn good hit rate for these because they're usually like, what, 10 to 1 or 15 to 1.
54:04So maybe longer shots than that. So we're going to keep it rolling.
54:07We'll do it again on Thursday. I am very excited about that.
54:10By the way, Thursday, we got Lions and Bills.
54:13It's going to be a ton of fun Thursday night football this week.
54:17That's a good, good, good first real Thursday night game.
54:19That's a good Thursday night football game. The season opener is a little different, but this is the first like normal.
54:25Agreed. We're in the regular season cadence Thursday night football game.
54:28And usually it's like Browns and Jets or something.
54:31Yeah. Nope. Not this time. Not this time. No.
54:33What about the knockout league? We're going to do this real quickly.
54:36And next segment. Oh, no. You know what? This isn't, I know it's named after fantasy focus, but oh, oh, there we go.
54:43I thought it was me. Oh, no. Oh, good.
54:45All right. Fields Yates NFL knocked out with 56.3 points.
54:48I don't know why it has my name under there too.
54:51The team name is Field Yates NFL. I don't know who changed their field name or their team name to Field Yates NFL.
54:57No one would have definitely changed that immediately after being eliminated.
55:00Oh. Main. Yes. You know what? I don't care for the fact that I have to talk about one of my four knockout leagues.
55:07The other three, I did so good. But this one, absolute week one disaster.
55:11That's tough. I don't know if we have my roster, but I think actually, you know what?
55:16I think it's one. CMC. You had CMC taking on the Rams in Australia.
55:19He was my only, it's on the screen now.
55:22My only double digit point scorer was CMC. And that was the first guy that played.
55:26Holy smokes. I thought like, okay, well, my other guys will pick up the scraps here, right?
55:31Nay. That didn't happen. Let's start at the top.
55:34Yeah. Stafford with the dud, four points. Quinshawn Judkins, seven.
55:36Rasheed Rice last night, he made the play to get me in the end zone.
55:40He did. I thought I was going to get Tristan in advance.
55:44Agreed. But he only had two targets. It was really disappointing.
55:47DK Metcalf, eight. Sam Laporta, 9.8. Quinton Johnston. Wow.
55:49We were hoping for that one long pass. Seriously.
55:52Everyone thought it was coming in this game. Our buddy Joe Fortenbach called the longest pass for Herbert would be over, what, 34 and a half yards.
55:59That never came to fruition either. Yep. And he let me down.
56:03I thought he was a good week when flex.
56:05That was kind of the strategy going in. But, yeah, sometimes it just doesn't work out.
56:09You have short starting lineups. So if your guys let you down a little in week one, it's over in a hurry.
56:16And I'm out. I'm done. How many points did you lose by?
56:19Like one, one and a half. One. Something like that.
56:22It was Tristan. It was me or Tristan that were going.
56:25He had JK Dobbins and he snuck by. So if you had started Kalon Black over Quinton Johnston, you would have survived.
56:31Obviously, you would have never made that decision. By the way, if you check my bench to see who else I had.
56:37Oh, yeah. They were all bad, too. That's what I was looking at.
56:40I was looking to see if you could you have made a decision.
56:44Yeah. But not a real one. No, no, no.
56:46You wouldn't have done that. No one would have played both of the 49ers running.
56:51I did Rodriguez over Johnson. I just, you know what I did?
56:54I drafted poorly in this one. That's what I did.
56:57You know what? Apparently, drafting live on air is not my thing.
57:00It makes it tough, doesn't it? Yeah. It's because I lost in the regular focus league as well.
57:05I mean, I did win that one last year.
57:07Difference between this league and the regular focus league, Mike, is that now, unfortunately, that you have lost as the first team
57:13out in a knockout league, all of these players go out and hit the waiver wire for the rest of us in
57:20the league to be able to put in some bids on.
57:23So we have CMC and Rashi Rice and Quinshon Judkins available.
57:26Oh, my gosh. All right. That's rude. Keep in mind.
57:28Now, I got it. We got we just threw this up on.
57:32I got to say this for audio listeners at home.
57:34Our production team threw up a quick tweet. We don't need this from our YouTube chat, actually at ball knowledge.
57:40My mom drafted a better team than Mike's knockout.
57:42Keep in mind, this is an 18 team league.
57:45So I thought coming out of it. You don't know how big of a team, how big of a league that guy's mom is.
57:52You know what? You're right. She could be an expert.
57:54That's right. She could be. I don't. I think this team would have been fine after week one, to be honest.
58:00CMC. I think so, too. After week one. Stafford would have been much better.
58:04DK Mecca have had a ton of targets in that game.
58:07It's just. I mean, that's the game. This is the game we play.
58:11Yes. One bad week. One horrible week. It's over.
58:13Matthew Stafford will honestly. He will never have another game close to 4.1 points this year.
58:17And that was you had it in the wrong.
58:20I've been CMC's worst game. Rice's worst game. Judkins' worst game.
58:23Maybe. I could see. But a lot of these guys.
58:26Stafford, certainly. Most. That's the game. Most available players.
58:28And I don't have the list in front of me.
58:31We'll see it once it actually officially comes out.
58:34Most available players in knockout leagues. You got to think that Colston Loveland is also going to be on that list.
58:39Probably. Yeah. The other two leagues. The other two leagues are like our company leagues that we're in in knockout.
58:45Drake May and James Cook are both. Drake May and James Cook.
58:48They were both good options. On both of the teams that got knocked out.
58:52One was Rich Eisen's team actually. And the other one was Tristan as well.
58:56They both had those two players. That's the fun thing about knockout leagues is that you get these superstars available on waivers.
59:02And then you've got to decide how much do I want to go out and spend in my fab.
59:07Oh yeah, I only have to do waivers for 15 leagues.
59:10Okay. Okay, Michael. So joke's on you, sir. Do you have any final words as you depart the fantasy-focused knockout league, Michael?
59:16I'm going to get to bed five minutes earlier than you tonight because I have one less league to do waivers in.
59:22No, I'm mad about this team. I'm mad about this team.
59:25I thought it was fine. I thought it was fine and would get me through week one.
59:30I'm mad at the Chiefs for not calling up a few extra plays for Rasheed Rice because last night I was watching that one closely.
59:37You know what, though? You know what I will say about knockout leagues?
59:41It's fun. Tell me. Usually the first month or two of the season, I'm not sweating matchups too hard because you're like,
59:47all right, if I take it all this week, I'll bounce back next week.
59:51I'll get rolling. I felt like I had a playoff matchup last night against Tristan.
59:55Like I had the sweat of like a fantasy playoff matchup because it's like you lose your out.
60:00It was the sweat of a fantasy matchup. And you normally don't get that early in the season.
60:05And that's what I had last night. So that was fun.
60:08One of the fun things about this format is as you get closer in and you start getting closer to the playoffs
60:14too, you start, you get these super teams that are forming and it's a very fun format to be able to have.
60:20Luckily, I have a bunch of other ones. So I will continue to do my best and see if they go better.
60:26I just want to ask you though. You're in that league.
60:29How much are you bidding on CMC tonight? Bad question.
60:32I'm probably not going to bid a lot on CMC.
60:34It's going to be expensive. I will bid on Kalen Black though because he was on your squad.
60:39And I might even be able to get him for free, to be honest, in a league like this.
60:45We'll see. Remember, there's 17 teams. So you're bidding against 16 others.
60:48That's what's so difficult. And how much do you want to do?
60:51How early do you want to do it? Do you want to like load up to make sure you're good in the middle rounds?
60:58Are you just trying to be... We all think that we're going to be a little bit better than whoever the last place team is.
61:05Someone's unfortunately got to be last. Someone will spend most of their money on CMC, I would bet.
61:10Well, and this week against Miami. Yeah. I mean, great matchup this week here in week two.
61:14So... All right. Hey, fun show, Michael. Give me a fist bump.
61:18Yeah. That was awesome. All right. That's enough of this.
61:20Okay. Okay. Thanks for hanging out with Mike and I.
61:23Field's going to be back tomorrow. We'll talk week two rankings.
61:26A bunch of fun conversations as we try to figure out what was real and what wasn't real from week one.
61:32Don't forget to love each other and be kind to yourself.
61:35You guys, you deserve it. On behalf of Mike and I, we will see you tomorrow.
61:40Field, we're sorry about the liquor in your cabinet.