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0:05Grainger, for the ones who get it done. Hello everybody, welcome into the Fantasy Pros Football Podcast.
0:10I'm Ryan Wormley, joined by Andrew Erickson. We are talking some running backs to buy and sell.
0:16Also throwing some quarterbacks in here as well. This is our typical trade show that we do every week in season.
0:22Erickson, we are splitting this, just so the listeners know.
0:26Last week, this was one episode. This week, this is going to be split into two episodes.
0:31It will be running backs and quarterbacks is one episode, wide receivers and tight ends is the other episode.
0:37So if you're looking to hit all the different positions, be sure to check out both episodes on YouTube and on Spotify
0:44and everywhere else you get your podcasts. Erickson, how are you doing here through week two now of the NFL season?
0:51I wish my fantasy teams were healthier. I think that we all can admit that.
0:56Where you look up this week, apparent to last week, when week one, points galore, man.
1:01Everyone was scoring so many fantasy points. There weren't nearly as many injuries.
1:06And this week, man, the matchups just like scrolling through my fantasy teams, it was brutal, man.
1:11You saw teams winning with like 70 points scored, 75 points scored total, because there were just so many low outputs from
1:18a lot of these offenses that was tied to the injuries.
1:22And I think that bearing the lead here with what happened on Monday Night Football, exactly that.
1:27The New York Giants lose Jackson Dart on the first quarter on their first possession.
1:32He takes a hit to the knee, doesn't get play for the rest of the game.
1:37Now, we got reports afterwards that confirmed that he has a sprained MCL and that it's not considered season ending or anything
1:45like that, which is really, really good. But do the MCL is still something that's really, really tricky.
1:50And when you look at how effective Dart is as a rusher, the fact that he now has a sprained knee ligament
1:58is really, really concerning, especially with how bad Jameis Winston looked last night.
2:02Like, he looked nothing like the Jameis Winston that is the YOLO ball guy, 11 of 27 for 111 yards and a pick.
2:09The Giants basically could do nothing offensively. They were gifted a red zone possession after Kyrie Williams fumbled, and they couldn't even punch it in for a touchdown.
2:18So Malik Nabors also got banged up in this game, suffered this like arm shoulder injury where he was getting looked at
2:26on the sideline, looked like he was in a lot of pain.
2:29I'm not sure if it's like his shoulder like got knocked out of the socket and they'd like pop it back in or something like that.
2:38So just a really bad game overall from the Giants.
2:41Really, unless Cam Scadaboo was getting the ball, they didn't really do a lot.
2:46Isaiah Likely, target leader for the Giants, but way more inefficient than he was in week one when he was basically perfect with Jackson Dart as his quarterback.
2:55So those are some takeaways from the Giants side from Monday night.
2:59Yeah, I feel like if you're looking at this game as a whole, the micro level takeaway, the short term takeaway is the injuries to the Giants.
3:07The macro level takeaway is the Rams seem to be OK.
3:11Now they were going up against a team with their backup quarterback and, you know, missing their best receiver at a certain
3:18point in the game and all that stuff. So, you know, take it with a grain of salt.
3:24But there was some degree of, hey, are the Rams maybe not all that in a bag of chips like we thought
3:31they were going to be over the summer? And they looked a lot more like the team we kind of expected going
3:38up against a team that had looked very good in week one itself in the Giants.
3:43You know, obviously, like you kind of hit on these injuries on the Giants side.
3:48But, you know, the Rams, like Devontae Adams, the biggest story, obviously eight catches, 195 yards, two touchdowns looking like prime Devontae.
3:55And Terrence Ferguson, a guy that I talked about all summer long on the Dynasty show with Fitz and then started to
4:03talk about on the redraft shows by the time we got to August as a player that I really liked as a late round tight end.
4:11Absolutely my favorite late round tight end this season.
4:14And he went six catches, 54 yards and a touchdown after a poor week one.
4:19Stafford looking a lot more like his MVP self, right?
4:22327 yards, four touchdowns. Kyron Williams gets in the end zone, thankfully through the air because he didn't on the ground like he usually does.
4:30But he and Blake Corum just continue to be like the same player.
4:34Basically 12 carries, 85 yards for Kyron, 12 carries, 79 yards for Blake Corum.
4:39So, yeah, the Rams winning 28 to 6, like definitely felt like more of what we expected to see out of the Rams.
4:46Even if this was maybe a lighter opponent than we expected going into the night, Erickson.
4:52Yeah, Devontae Adams when Puka is out is just a total turbo smash of a play.
4:57And I was not high on Adams during the season.
5:00But in the back of my mind, this was always the worst case scenario when Puka Nakua was forced to miss time.
5:07Whether it's injury or suspension, I knew that I was totally screwed in games where Devontae Adams is going to play in the featured wide receiver one role.
5:16So, did layer on some touchdown bets for Devontae Adams because I knew that I was going to get absolutely cooked in
5:23terms of fantasy rankings with Devontae Adams. Although I did rank him pretty high this week because there was that late news about Puka Nakua not playing.
5:32And this is usually what we get when Adams is put into that role.
5:37Happened last year when Puka Nakua missed a game, I think, against the Jacksonville Jaguars in London.
5:42And Adams scored three touchdowns in that game. So, we shall see.
5:46It seems like Puka was at least close to playing in this game.
5:50I know that he downgraded to out as the week progressed.
5:54But it doesn't seem like it's going to be a long-term thing.
5:58We'll see what happens with Puka. Obviously, Adams is a top five fantasy wide receiver.
6:03Top three. He's up there if Puka is going to miss time.
6:07And Ferguson, I would even say, too, he left some production on the table last night.
6:12There were a couple drops for him where he had open space to run.
6:16Stafford hit him on a really quick pass where he just basically wasn't ready for the ball to get there.
6:23But I do think that it is a positive trend for him that with Puka out, they invited more opportunities for their young second-year tight end.
6:31And for the most part, he did deliver again.
6:34There's always going to be growing pains with some of these younger players.
6:39But the fact that they put him into a larger role, playing 59% of the snaps.
6:44Still behind Kobe Parkers in terms of total snaps played.
6:47But in terms of the routes, targets, it was very obvious that they were trying to get their tight end more involved.
6:54And he is kind of like their de facto wide receiver three on this team.
6:59Which is, there's no Tutu Atwell or these other guys really getting a lot of action because those guys aren't special in any way.
7:07Like, Ferguson at least has another element and dynamism that he can add to this Rams passing attack now when they also get back Puka Nakua.
7:15So, the Kyron thing and Blake Corum thing is also so just, it's so crazy, man.
7:20Like, both the guys just absolutely smashed. Josh Kyron gets the touchdowns in the past game work.
7:26But Corum is a little bit more explosive. Even though in this game, they were both just like ripping off big runs against this Giants deep.
7:34I made the joke on X which people didn't like.
7:38It was like, Blake shot out of a Corum.
7:41You know, I like the phrase. Like, Blake shot out of a cannon.
7:45But, uh... I like that. I thought it was okay.
7:48And then I guess I just logged off after then, so...
7:52It's not your all-time best, but I did like it.
7:55Not my best work. They both look great. And they're both scoring fantasy points.
7:59So, you just keep starting them until proven otherwise.
8:02Yeah. In any week where Puka is not playing, where are you ranking Terrence Ferguson?
8:07Because I feel like this is proof of concept of, like, when either receiver...
8:12Devontae Adams is older. Puka has all his stuff going on.
8:15If either of those guys is ever not in a game, I feel like it is very clear.
8:21Ferguson... Like, this is what I expected it to look like in terms of target share in those types of scenarios.
8:28Devontae Adams, 10 targets. Terrence Ferguson, 9 targets. Nobody else more than 2.
8:32That is what I would have expected before the season as somebody who was projecting this Ferguson breakout.
8:38So, to see it play out that way, even though Ferguson did leave some of that production on the table, like you
8:45said, is, you know, obviously highly encouraging. So, in any game where one of Devontae or Puka is not on the field, in that week...
8:53Like, you can't... It's hard to say for a rest of season ranking what you're doing with Ferguson because you just don't
9:00know how many games are going to have one of those guys out.
9:05But in those games when they happen week to week, where do you think you'll be ranking Ferguson amongst tight ends?
9:11Probably a top 15 tight end at least. Oh, I don't think that's aggressive enough.
9:16I was going to say, like, top 10, honestly.
9:19If one of those two is out in any of those weeks, I think it'll look a lot more like this.
9:26Low end fantasy tight end one. Yeah, that's probably the right range for him.
9:31Obviously, it's going to depend on the week in certain matchups.
9:34But when you just look ahead at the schedule for the Rams and just correct me if I'm wrong here, Warren, but
9:41I want to make sure I have the right matchups.
9:45Week three, they're playing at the Denver Broncos. So, that's on the road.
9:49You look at where are the strengths of this Denver Broncos defense.
9:53It's in their secondary, right? They have a really, a lot of talented cornerbacks.
9:57If Puka's out in this game, you have Devontae locking up with Sertan.
10:02Like, that's obviously going to happen. And that leaves Terrence Ferguson against some of these other defensive backs and linebackers where he can be a mismatch.
10:10So, Terrence Ferguson, definitely, if he's floating out on waivers, maybe he got dropped after week one because he didn't do a lot.
10:17This was obviously a step in the right direction.
10:20And, yeah, there's more meat on the bone here with Terrence Ferguson.
10:24You're right. Yeah, probably like a fringe fantasy tight end one in the weekly rankings if Puka or Adams miss any more time.
10:32Yeah, I'm looking at the names that are in that range right now in terms of the rest of season rankings.
10:39It's like Travis Kelsey. How is he going to hold up over a full season at his age?
10:44Harold Fanna Jr., major quarterback question marks. I'd say likely maybe we'll have some, you know, quarterback question marks here this year.
10:52If Dart misses time, Kittle's older too. Jawan Johnson and Dalton Schultz we like in their own ways.
10:57But there's, you know, it's like they're superstars. So, like, those are the guys who are ranked 9 through 13 in the tight end rankings.
11:05I think Terrence Ferguson easily belongs at or near the top of that group of names in weeks where Puka's out.
11:12Definitely the upside shot play with Ferguson because of what he can do from a skill set perspective.
11:18I think just his talent profile is so different than someone like Dalton Schultz where Schultz is a compiler.
11:24Like, that's what he's going to do. He's going to just get a bunch of targets.
11:30Not necessarily going to be super dynamic with those targets.
11:33I know last week he obviously had a career game.
11:36But so much of that came with in the fourth quarter when the Texans had no shot left in the game.
11:43And CJ Stroud threw the ball 55 times. That is not usually what they're going to want to do on a week-to-week basis.
11:50So, that is a very inflated total. So, again, Terrence Ferguson, Dalton Schultz.
11:55That could be an interesting trade potential. So, let's jump into the show here, Erickson.
11:59Our week three buys and sells for running backs and quarterbacks.
12:03As a reminder to everybody, as always, these are not buy lows and sell highs.
12:08They could be. But they also might be buy highs and sell lows.
12:12It is just a buy and a sell because I think there's all sorts of names that you want to be looking at trade-wise.
12:20Not just guys who are buying low and selling high.
12:23That's my weekly reminder there. Before we jump into the actual running backs, though, Erickson, some trade strategy advice.
12:29Anything high-level you're thinking about as we enter week three?
12:33Similar to last week when we talked about targeting teams that are dealing with injuries, whether it was A.J.
12:39Browns, A. Flowers, and then as the week progressed, Nico Collins was another player that missed time.
12:44Well, now, even more managers are dealing with injuries in their league.
12:48So, if you are one of the lucky managers who has a healthier roster, I think that this is a really good
12:55week to send trade offers to teams that have glaring holes in their roster that are probably debating, do I make a
13:02trade or do I try to run out the clock here with depth on my roster?
13:08And I always find that it's more beneficial to try to be aggressive here with trades because people are trying to make moves.
13:15And even if you do like the depth on your team, I think right now is an opportunity where you can make some two-for-one trades.
13:23Where, hey, I have this really talented elite player, and that's usually what helps separate you the most in fantasy.
13:30But if you are just so beaten down by the injuries and you can't put out a starting roster that feels good
13:37enough to compete, then I think that makes more sense to take one of your best assets and redistribute that into multiple starters.
13:44So, I'm always on the side that you want the best player in the deal, but in certain situations, if your overall
13:51roster is going to get better and you're getting multiple starters, I will be willing to trade off a more premier piece
13:59to get more startable assets if my team has just been bludgeoned with injuries.
14:03Are you thinking about this in the context of a specific position at all or just kind of across the board, this is the strategy you're taking?
14:12Kind of across the board, honestly. I know this past week, right, I have a dynasty team with A.J.
14:18Brown, with Nico Collins, with Zay Flowers, and they were all out.
14:22So, I had to start my depth. It's a little bit different in dynasty.
14:27So, I had guys like Octavian Wicks. I had Rashad Bateman.
14:30I had Jaden Reed. So, a couple of those plays ended up working out for me, but you may not be as
14:37lucky in your redraft league, especially if it's a deeper format 12-team league or 14-team league where these waiver-wire wide receivers that
14:44we've been talking about, maybe they aren't available to you and you really need to make a trade, whether you have a Parker Washington or Christian Watson.
14:53Those two guys in particular have been a lot of questions about, do I sell high on those players?
14:59And, obviously, I don't want to sell those players because I like both of them entering draft season and they've been big
15:06hits through the first two weeks of the season.
15:09Parker Washington looks like a top eight fantasy wide receiver rest of the season.
15:14Christian Watson is going to see concentrated targets with Jaden Reed on the shelf for a little bit.
15:20Him and Matthew Golden are just eating up in this Packers offense.
15:24But if you are dying at running back and you have a flurry of receivers because you're getting production from Watson and
15:31Washington because you drafted them in rounds five or six, then, yeah, I think you've got to make a move for a
15:38position of need based on the injuries that you're potentially dealing with.
15:42Those guys, Washington and Watson, are both inside my top 18 rest of season.
15:46Like, if I'm sitting down and actually, like, thinking out who I want, I just, I believed in them during draft season.
15:54I've seen nothing to stop believing in them. You mentioned, like, the target share is going to get even more concentrated in
16:01Green Bay, especially, and Parker Washington just looks awesome.
16:04Like, I know there's a lot of really good receivers, but there aren't 18 that I want more than those two guys rest of season.
16:12You know where I have Parker Washington rest of season rankings?
16:15I don't off the top of my head. It was pretty high when I was looking at consensus earlier.
16:22So I'm curious where you have him. Where is he rest of season?
16:26Watch receiver eight. Oh my God. Dude, he has a 35% target share for the first two weeks of the season.
16:33I'm not arguing with it. It's like, you know, it's crazy that it's like we're already here, but we're already here.
16:39Dude, like we have arrived. Some of the names in the consensus, like ahead of him, right?
16:45He's 14th in consensus. And it's like neighbors is ahead of him.
16:49Got injury stuff and quarterback questions. Zay Flowers is ahead of him.
16:53If he comes back healthy, that will probably look correct.
16:56But if, you know, who knows if the hamstring lingers.
16:59There's question marks around those guys in his range.
17:02And it's like, do you have any reservations about Parker Washington?
17:06And the answer is like, no. You're right. It's crazy how quickly we have gotten to that point.
17:12All right. Let's jump into the actual running backs we're talking about here.
17:16Erickson, we've each got a running back to buy.
17:19We'll start with yours. Who do you got? Please don't throw up any liquid that you're potentially drinking while listening to this program or watching this show.
17:27But I'm going to name a Cleveland Browns player here, Quinshon Judkins.
17:31And I was by far one of the biggest faders of Quinshon Judkins during draft season.
17:37Didn't want any part of him because he plays on the Browns, bad offense, bad offensive line.
17:42And the first two matchups of the season, I thought were really bad spots for him playing on the road against Jacksonville
17:49and playing on the road at Tampa Bay. And I was not surprised that he struggled in both.
17:55When I did my social shorts the last two weeks, Judkins was my state of the week in both of those matchups.
18:02And he did not deliver, especially as a rusher.
18:05But the conversation has changed a little bit here heading into week three.
18:09Part of the reason I like Judkins as a cheap buy is because his stock is way, way down.
18:16After two games that he did not play well in, I think that the managers are having buyers remorse about, man, I
18:23took this guy in the fourth round. I'm excited about a second year running back.
18:28What's happened here? And he's disappointed. But I think that's really due to the matchups.
18:32I really think that's why he has been so poor with his offensive line still trying to gel.
18:38But now where does he go? They're going back home to play the Carolina Panthers defense that two weeks ago just got
18:45absolutely destroyed by the Chicago Bears run game. Other thing that works in Judkins' favor, and this was the reason I didn't
18:53like him as much in draft season, was I had question marks about him as a receiver.
18:58Well, that's no longer in question because Dylan Sampson is no longer part of the equation in the Browns' back because he
19:05was put on injured reserve after week one. So his workload has been steady for the first couple weeks of the season.
19:12He's had 12 carries. Obviously, the yardage has not been there, but the target share went up significantly from week one to
19:19week two, going up from 8.7% week one, 16.7% in week two, five catches for 27 yards on five targets.
19:26So you're looking at a three-down bell cow workhorse, played 67% of the snaps last week, and you can buy him dirt
19:33cheap against the Carolina Panthers defense at home. So I think that he's a sneaky buy.
19:38Again, can't guarantee he's going to be super successful all year long, but right now if you're hurting that running back and
19:45you need a stopgap option, I think Judkins, especially as a player, I think is pretty talented.
19:51I think that he's a sharp player to buy on the cheap.
19:55This is the buy low category. I talked about at the top of the show how we can do buy highs in
20:02any sort of direction we want to take. This one, obviously, he's coming off two games where he's got 24 carries for a combined 54 yards.
20:10This is you are looking to buy low. I don't know.
20:14Emotionally, it feels really tough to say go out and invest in a Brown, especially since they got the win, meaning like
20:21Deshaun Watson maybe has a little more leash here.
20:24Like that's, that is tough to sort of rubber stamp that from an emotional perspective.
20:29It makes sense the case of what you're laying out for why you would be interested in.
20:35I'm glad you called him like a sneaky buy as opposed to like, you know, a screaming buy where you're really trying
20:42to heavily convince people to do it. He's ranked outside the top 24 running backs right now in the consensus rest of season rankings.
20:49He's dressed outside. He's RB 25. It's funny because he's a player that I didn't really like in draft season, like NFL draft season.
20:57I mean, when he entered the NFL and then he impressed me really early and I felt like, okay, I was wrong.
21:04He like is a good running back. And then now obviously a slow start to the season, but tough matchups in a tough offensive situation.
21:13Where do you think is the right spot for him rest of season?
21:17Like again, he's RB 25. I get it given what he's looked like so far and the continuing offensive environment question marks, but also a good player.
21:26You think there's brighter days ahead. Where's the right spot for him?
21:29Yeah, I think that the RB two range makes sense for him.
21:33I'm trying to check right now where I had him in my rest of season running back rankings because, you know, moves
21:40I'm thinking about making because unfortunately I have a lot of teams that have guys like Jonathan Brooks.
21:46I have guys like Marshawn Lloyd. I have. So those teams, I look at Judkins as he's like an immediate upgrade from
21:53those types of players where you have a hole in your RB two slot.
21:58Yeah, Judkins is not the sexiest name, but I have an RB 24.
22:02So I think that's pretty spot on. Let me ask you this.
22:06Would you rather have the gross committee of the New Orleans Saints with Travis Achan?
22:11Or would you rather have Quinshon and Judkins who at least, yeah, offense we're not excited about, but you know, he's the bell cow.
22:19Like, you know, he's going to get the volume.
22:22Whereas Achan, dude, they've been, they're using CJ Donaldson on third and long because he's the best pass protector on the team.
22:29And he was a free agent rookie running back.
22:32Like, I don't know what the Saints are doing.
22:35So that's a deal you can definitely get done.
22:38Easy. Achan, Travis Achan for Judkins when, so again, like that's an example and I have them back to back in my rest of season rankings.
22:46So that's something that I would maybe consider, especially if I am hurting an RB2 with Broke or something like that.
22:53I think I would just break the tie with the Saints are the better team and so I'd rather have Achan.
23:00It obviously has been quite gross. I mean, he did get seven catches in week one.
23:05So maybe the pass catching will be there more in future weeks unlike in week two.
23:10They just, they paid him so much. I'm like, how are they not using Achan?
23:15I think he's a decent player and again, it's a good team.
23:19So I think I lean Achan but I don't feel good about it.
23:23I think it's totally fair to go for Judkins.
23:26Quinchard Judkins with Bill? Brodsky, Merritt? They're five spots apart in consensus.
23:30I don't, I don't think you, if it were a negotiation involving me, I don't think you could.
23:36I would want a little bit more but I think with the right person, like I think it's worth asking.
23:42I think, I think for the right manager, again, this is also contextual.
23:46I think in your league, it could totally happen.
23:49I think that's on the table. Yeah. And then too, again, pointing out that needs are going to be the biggest things
23:57that move trades, roster needs and it's very easy to tell, especially with all the injuries, what managers need what.
24:03So a potential wide receiver for running back trade could also be a better avenue to be successful with a Judkins trade.
24:10Let me give you my running back to buy here, Erickson.
24:14It's Brees Hall and I'm going to be talking about this a bit more in the wide receivers show, which again, I
24:21hope everybody checks out since we're splitting these shows in two.
24:24But the schedule for the Jets is something I'm very interested in, particularly in the next two weeks at Detroit, at Chicago.
24:32We know Detroit, Coors Field of the NFL. You love to say it.
24:36We know Chicago. I mean, this last week with the terrible weather aside is likely to have one of the worst defenses in football.
24:44So that's a really appealing couple of weeks. And then even beyond that, Erickson for the Jets after Detroit and Chicago the
24:51next two weeks, it's Cleveland, but on the road for Cleveland, which we know the defense doesn't travel as well.
24:57At New England, pretty good defense. And then Miami and Las Vegas.
25:01That's through week eight. And then even beyond that, Buffalo's in week 10.
25:05They're a much better offense than a defense. They get Miami again in week 12.
25:10The Chargers defense hasn't looked that good. That's week 11.
25:14You know, Denver has been run on, run on all over in at least one of their games this season.
25:20That might've been more of a Kenneth Walker stat than a Denver stat, but that's on the list here too.
25:27I just think it's a really appealing schedule, really, quite frankly, for all the Jets players.
25:32And the Jets are functional, right? Like we didn't know that they would be this year.
25:37I'm not saying they're great. I'm not saying they're a playoff team, but they look functional, which A, I didn't really expect.
25:44And B, was not what they were last year.
25:47And Rhys Hall is a great enough talent to take advantage of being in a functional offense.
25:52So far this season, and I did a show, a short form with Tara Roberts yesterday, and she had this phrase that
26:00I'm going to, you know, lift from her because I think it was really good.
26:05She said that what we've seen so far from Rhys Hall is the floor, right?
26:09That's, that's what she is, is viewing him as.
26:12And I think that we can see more ceiling going forward.
26:16And she, actually, let me, to be clear, she was saying that about Garrett Wilson, but we talked about it in terms
26:23of all the Jets as kind of seeing their floor in terms of the fantasy output so far, and there's more ceiling to go there.
26:31I don't want to say that she was talking about Breeze because it was Garrett Wilson, but we, we had that conversation about all the Jets there.
26:40And I think it applies to both of them.
26:43He's been RB12 and RB13 in the first two games this season.
26:47That RB13 is despite going 16 carries for 29 yards because he has the pass catching ability as well.
26:53Five catches on five targets for 63 yards to help lift that floor.
26:57So I think he's an RB2 right now price-wise.
27:00He's RB17 in consensus rest of the season, but I think he's going to have closer to an RB1 output rest of the season.
27:08I like him as, I'll call it a buy medium right now.
27:12I don't think it's a buy low or a buy high.
27:15I think he's just a buy. Okay, sis, give me the scoop.
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29:31Does Travis A. Chan get Reese Hall? That's a move that I definitely would co-sign on.
29:36I also agree with you on Reese Hall being a mega buy Jets players in general.
29:41In my Beyond the Waver Wire article for week three, which will be out when you guys are listening to this, I
29:49sign off the Jets section with, dare I say, buy all Jets, start your engines.
29:53Are we gonna land this plane? Because, dude, the schedule is so amazing.
29:58This makes Geno Smith like a legitimate quarterback streamer if you've been hurting at quarterback, you've dealt with some injuries or something along those lines.
30:06Yeah, you're missing Caleb Williams, dude. Geno Smith next couple weeks.
30:09Dude, this guy could absolutely cook given the matchups that they have upcoming and you hit the nail on the head with Breece Hall.
30:17He failed as a rusher last week, but because he's super dynamic and he has a three-down skill set, he made up for it as a receiver.
30:26So, game script proof I think is so key with some of these running backs here where it doesn't matter if the
30:33Jets are getting blown out, the Jets are destroying another team, Breece Hall is gonna get his and yeah, the occasional Braylon Allenrushing touchdown vulture is gonna happen.
30:42That happens to a lot of running backs. But, yeah, I could not agree more.
30:47Definitely. You brought the more exciting running back to the table here of who to buy.
30:52I think by far. Than my gross bi-low Quinchon Judkins play.
30:56Some of the names that are around Breece Hall that I would rather have Breece Hall than.
31:01David Montgomery is ranked very closely in rest-of-season rankings.
31:04Cam Scadaboo is three spots behind in rest-of-season rankings.
31:07Bachel Tutin obviously can be an exciting player, but he's in that range that I'd rather have Breece Hall.
31:13I think I'd rather have Breece Hall than Jeremiah Love who's two spots ahead of Hall in the rest-of-season rankings just given
31:21the respective situations and who I expect to be in at least more competitive games throughout the season even if Arizona's been,
31:28you know, they had the impressive week one. I would still rather have Kyron who's back-to-back with Breece Hall in rest-of-season rankings.
31:35I think that's too low on Kyron. DeAndre Swift, I would consider.
31:39Like, he's RB14, Hall's RB17. I consider trading Swift for Hall if I had to make that choice, especially with Caleb Williams stuff going on.
31:47The one that I would go really back-and-forth on is Bucky.
31:50They're back-to-back in rest-of-season rankings. Bucky over in reverse Breece Hall.
31:54I think I would prefer Hall, but I wouldn't fight somebody who wants to say, I think the Bucs have had just
32:01a weird first two weeks of the season and Bucky has looked good and that offense is going to get better and
32:08he's getting the usage and this will look better going forward.
32:12Like, I wouldn't fight anybody who wants to make that point on Bucky.
32:16He's also getting a ton of past game usage, but like Hall versus all those other names I read who are all
32:23within the same range as him in the consensus rest-of-season rankings, like, I'd rather have Hall pretty clearly, I think, you know, at least for most of them.
32:32No, he's a good buy and I think that he as a trade target will come up when I do my top
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33:19Erickson, who's your first running back to sell? I should say you have both of our running backs to sell today.
33:26So give me the first one you want to talk about.
33:30Yeah, so I'm going to talk about Armerian Hampton because I have some concerns about the Chargers offense, the Chargers backfield, and
33:37I think it's really worth discussing, especially with Hampton being a player we actually talked about last week where you talked about
33:44him as a buy and I think that we kind of dove into some of the futures for this Chargers team.
33:51Obviously, we didn't expect them to have back-to-back duds offensively, although Hampton was actually one of the main bright spots of the
33:58Chargers offense last week at least if you look at like the box score like almost rushed for 100 yards.
34:05He had 23 carries for 94 yards and a touchdown he got more targets than he did in week one, two targets, two catches for 21 yards.
34:13He actually had a couple calls back in terms of rushing production so his true rushing line was actually 25 carries, 105
34:20yards if you include those plays that were removed by penalties.
34:24So the workload has been there for Armerian Hampton through two weeks.
34:28He has been a clear-cut RB1. His volume actually increased in week two compared to week one where it wasn't nearly as much.
34:35However, I do have concerns about the way that this schedule is kind of shaping up for the Chargers.
34:42Now they get Buffalo this week. That's a good matchup on paper, especially if Ed Oliver doesn't play.
34:47We know the bills can be run on but after that and this was something we talked about in the tailgate show,
34:55the Chargers just have a brutal schedule like rest of the season like weeks one and two were supposed to be their
35:02layup spots where they were supposed to just absolutely truck stick these opposing defenses and that was hardly what we've seen from them.
35:09Now you also layer in the injuries that are continuing to pile up on this team.
35:14So during the preseason they lost Tyler Biotis their starting center.
35:18They have now just put their two other tight ends that play a big role in the run game especially Charlie Kolar.
35:25He's on injured reserve. David Njoku he's on injured reserve.
35:28So what happens to these heavy personnel sets where you're creating more lanes for the run game?
35:34Do those cease to exist now in this Mike McDaniel offense that has really not been awesome the first two weeks of the season?
35:42They also put one of their starting guards not on injured reserve but he's going to miss some time with an injury as well.
35:49So the interior offensive line injuries are piling up.
35:52Joe Walt in particular has not played like the guy that was healthy last year.
35:57Rashawn Slater still stud but these injuries on the offensive line are piling up and Omarian Hampton the eye test is the guy is just looking for contact.
36:06Like I don't see him going out and bursting off these big explosive plays it's just him like trying to find the
36:13nearest defender like truck stick that guy and then fall forward.
36:17I'm not trying to bury Omarian Hampton but I just don't know if this is going to last for him favorably when
36:24you look at injuries on the line the schedule coming up and the fact that the past game usage has really not been there.
36:32So through two games Hampton ranks 40th among running backs in routes run which is the same as Keaton Mitchell.
36:38No running back with a 60% or higher snap share has worse receiving usage than Omarian Hampton does through two games.
36:45So for all of these reasons I feel like he's a player that coming off a pretty strong game I get the
36:52vibes around the Chargers are not super high but I think you can still get something decent for him even if it's
37:00a little bit like 80 cents on the dollar where I just kind of want to wipe myself clean potentially of Hampton
37:07when I see a lot of flaws in his projection for the rest of the season and there's a lot of good
37:14running back then we just talked about a guy like Brees Hall right?
37:18I get that his offense isn't nearly as exciting but you just talked about how Tara outlined the floor for the Jets
37:25we're starting to see a ceiling potentially with their schedule coming up what if it's the opposite with the Chargers where it's
37:32like oh this is actually potentially like how good it might get at least from a Hampton perspective and against tougher teams
37:40what's it going to look like then? And that's where I get concerned about a player like Hampton who I think still
37:47has like the draft capital attached to him because he was like a high second round pick I still think you can
37:54get a lot for him so that's my take on Hampton I know that you talked about him as a buy last
38:01week do you still feel the same about him after this week?
38:05Again, he had a good game in the box score so I'm interested to see what you have to say because again
38:12I have liked Hampton too coming into the season I thought the two weeks of the year were going to be really
38:19good for him not as impressed as I thought I was going to be so I was kind of prepared for week
38:26three to come along and think okay Hampton are we buying or selling and I feel like I'm a little bit more
38:33on the sell side especially when you have the juicy matchup of Buffalo coming up that you can really use to get
38:41a strong return It's a great question because fundamentally I don't want to be some barring like an injury or some sort
38:48of like huge change in circumstances I don't want to be somebody who on the show one week says I think this
38:55guy's a buy and then literally seven days later says no no he's a sell like I don't want to be just
39:02that react that feels reactionary yeah yeah no 100% 100% having said that I definitely feel more nervous than I did despite
39:09the big game and the box he was RB6 this week and I feel worse about it the lack of passing game
39:16usage is tough and that is like we just talked about with Brees Hall like that sort of in Bucky Irving that
39:23sort of thing really does lift your floor and ceiling as a running back with the nature of fantasy scoring if he
39:31doesn't have that with just two targets throughout the season to start two weeks in they need to be winning games for
39:38him to be having a chance here again I know he had 94 yards at a touchdown this week and they lost
39:45but generally speaking if he's not getting pass game usage they need to be up in these games for him to really
39:52hit it big as a fantasy running back and boy I don't know when are they going to be leading these games
39:59with that schedule I mean you talk about how tough it is Buffalo, Seattle, Denver, Kansas City, the Rams, Houston and Baltimore
40:06is their next seven games like that's tough man and later on in the season they're going to get Kansas City again
40:14San Francisco who looks really good while they're healthy right now Tampa Bay is usually very good against the run I mean
40:21New England's defense isn't I just don't know when they're winning all these games frankly and I don't I don't want to
40:28write off a team after two weeks I don't want to write off a guy that I said you know was touting
40:35as a bye one week later but I agree the production we've seen added all up and it's been fine but the
40:42profile hasn't and the projection for the future doesn't feel very fine to me so I think for me he is probably
40:49more of a hold than a sell but he is not a bye for me anymore I don't think I've totally done
40:56the 180 and gotten him all the way to sell but I'm totally comfortable moving him from bye into hold range and
41:04you're just kind of hoping and praying honestly because I I this charge I wouldn't say there's a 0% chance they turn
41:11it around I don't think it looks good right now but it's a non-zero chance that this offense maybe does like hey
41:18just took a few weeks it's a new offense coordinator Herbert's still getting more comfortable there you know all starts playing better
41:25and boom maybe not off to the races but they look a lot more competent and fantasy friendly in the coming weeks
41:32and maybe the fact that their defense isn't very good and I think they're going to be trailing in these games will
41:39just simply force them to throw to Hampton more like we can hope on that right so I think there's a world
41:46where the offense does look better going forward but I don't think the team's record is going to start looking much better
41:54going forward and I do think ultimately that will just kneecap O'Marrion Hampton's fantasy value one thing too and I can't believe
42:01I didn't mention this when I was digging the grave for O'Marrion Hampton he's fumbled back-to-back games lost fumbles we know we
42:08know Aharbaugh is not going to like that like that's the thing that scares me the most is I would like and
42:15to your point but not want to jump ship one week after but a lot of the equation has changed I mean
42:22they lost offensive linemen they lost their two starting tight ends and they didn't and they laid another egg right like part
42:29of the reason you were talking about buying Hampton was because yeah they're going to bounce back against the Raiders and he
42:36did Hampton did have a good game so technically you were right he was an improved asset but now it's like okay
42:44like I definitely don't feel nearly as good about him rest of season you got the Bills matchup here which should still
42:51be a good spot so if you can't get anything for Hampton strongly I think that to your point he still can
42:58be a hold but man like it's it's tough when you look at the rest of season schedule for the Chargers and
43:05if they don't get it together then he's a player that I feel like you're going to be starting him every week
43:12because you have to and he's hurting you more than helping you make a difference listen I said this you know there's
43:19a non-zero chance that they kick it into high gear there's also non-zero chance that we look back and say this was
43:26the best selling opportunity for Hampton all season coming off of 94 yards and a touchdown I hope that's not the case
43:34but that's that's a possibility all right Erickson who's your other running back to sell I'm going to go with Ja'Cory Krosky
43:41Merritt running back for the Washington Commanders also known as Bill I am concerned about what this offense looks like rest of
43:48season with Marcus Mariota taking over for at least the next couple weeks we're still not exactly sure what Jaden Daniels and
43:55how long he'll be out for but considering it's a re-injury of his elbow injury that he didn't get surgery on the
44:02only way to fix it is with surgery so we shall see but for the time being it's going to be a
44:09lot of Marcus Mariota and Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt actually works than or he was worse last year with Marcus Mariota as his
44:16starting quarterback versus check out check out the tool you can see for yourself but yeah it's a fall off when Marcus
44:24Mariota is the quarterback and I don't think that's really surprising he is a worse quarterback than Jaden Daniels is so that
44:31concerns me about what Bill can do rest of season and then when I look at this particular matchup what we saw
44:38last week Rashad White was out there commanding the majority of targets I don't think that this Washington defense can stop anybody
44:45and that concerns me about how much Troy Krosky is actually going to be playing in this particular offense if the commanders
44:52are always trailing in games because they have a worse offense because their defense can't stop anybody because that's what happened last
44:59week Rashad White six targets for 40 yards tied for the second most targets on the team he also had 43 rushing
45:06yards seven carries which was actually the same yardage as Bill but on five fewer attempts so I've always been on high
45:14on Rashad White you know through the off running back but I just think that Bill is facing an uphill battle and
45:21although he has some decent box score stats through the first two weeks of season and I admittedly he looked really great
45:28against the Philadelphia Eagles I do get concerned about his recipes and outlook with a backup quarterback starting with things kind of
45:35going or getting unraveled here with the commanders team overall without having Jane Daniels for the foreseeable future so for those reasons
45:42I think that especially trading him to a team that might need a running back he is a sell for me it's
45:49you know the upcoming schedule to like Seattle they're not going to score anything on Seattle then and you can maybe use
45:56this as a selling point after Seattle is Indy and the Giants I think you can make a selling point on him
46:04being a good buy for managers then but then after that it gets tough at San Francisco I don't think he's going
46:11to do very well there Philly again I know he the Rams in week nine it's not really that enticing and then
46:18to end the season Erickson his last four weeks so if you're thinking ahead already like oh I want to have this
46:25guy for the playoffs everything like that weeks 14 through 17 Houston Atlanta at Minnesota at Jacksonville like how are they especially
46:32in the running game I just don't see him being very effective for the commanders in that end of season schedule in
46:39the playoffs so I think in the medium term and in the long term this is a smart move to try to
46:47sell off if you can on the basis of that week one performance and to to me he's a player that you're
46:54going to feel obligated to start when he's getting volume but then he's a player that you start in And, you know,
47:01it's just hard because it's so league dependent, right?
47:04Like in the consensus versus season rankings, he's QB4.
47:07I think folks who do what we do professionally, I think, are going to be very recognizing of the schedule and the talent and say, even though A.J.
47:16Brown is still out for a while, like we're just a believer in this guy.
47:21And again, he didn't have A.J. Brown last year, MVP runner up.
47:25But I think if you look to maybe in the right league, which again, it's all contextual and it's all worth asking,
47:32I think you could try to swing other trades.
47:35I wouldn't even be opposed to something like, hey, I'm going to trade you like Tyler Shuck and another piece for Drake
47:42May or Jared Goff and another piece for Drake May.
47:45I'd be fine like trying to tear up at quarterback and and going for the big upside swing with Drake May, who
47:52I think is going to finish a lot closer to his QB4 ranking rest of season that he's at right now, as
47:59opposed to where he's at currently, obviously. I agree.
48:02Let's do some buy, sell or holds, Erickson. We've got a couple of running back ones and then a QB1 for you.
48:09Then we'll get out of here. I want to put some big names into one of these.
48:15So I've got Devon A. Chan, Javante Williams, Kyron Williams.
48:18Again, for those who are maybe new to the show this year, this is not a ranking of the three.
48:25This is one to buy at their current market value, one to sell at their current market value and one that you
48:32want to hold at their current market value. So buy, sell or hold A.
48:36Chan. That's Devon A. Chan. Javante Williams, Kyron Williams.
48:39So I think I'm going to buy Devon A.
48:42Chan because I think that he plays on the Dolphins and that's why he's cheap, but he is a full-blown bell cow running back that's catching passes.
48:51That was the biggest knock on A. Chan was, oh, what's going to happen?
48:55Mike Willis is the quarterback. He's not going to get targets.
48:59I think that he might be the target leader for the Dolphins over the last two weeks.
49:05He's had at least six targets, I believe, in both games.
49:08So he's someone that is seeing passing. He has 11 targets this season just for what it's worth.
49:14It's five in the first game, six in the second.
49:17Okay. So he's seeing plenty of volume through the air, which that was like the biggest point against him, obviously playing in this environment as well.
49:26But so explosive, can rip off big plays. If you just want to lock in a fantasy volume play, especially in full PPR, I still think A.
49:34Chan is an interesting buy. So especially just given.
49:37I will say, by the way, of those 11 targets, he's only caught seven of them.
49:43He would three for six, which you often see for running backs because it's usually a bit easier just catching the check down.
49:50So just throwing that out there. Yeah. I would say, so he's the buy for me.
49:55And then Javante Williams would probably be the sell, as weird as that sounds, because he plays on a wagon offense of the Dallas Cowboys.
50:03But matchups aren't nearly as good. I mean, Javante has had two amazing spots the last two weeks.
50:09And his rushing production has been really bad to start the year against the Giants and Commanders.
50:15What does he have? 24 carries for 71 yards, I think.
50:18That's exactly right. Yeah. So I remember writing that in the beyond the waiver wire piece because you want to list them as like a sell.
50:27But you also recognize, dude, like there's really no one else they're going to get volume to in this backfield.
50:33But if it's a scenario where someone really wants to pay a lot for Javante because he is the Dallas Cowboys star
50:40running back and you can get a really strong return for him.
50:44That's who would be my sell here. And then Kyron Williams, I think, is just a hold, man.
50:50I can't project exactly how this Rams backfield is going to play out.
50:54All I know is Kyron Williams scores fantasy points.
50:57Like, I'm just kind of throwing my hands up.
51:00I know Corum's good, too. They're both good. They were both going to pay off their ADPs.
51:06Like, I'm so sick of having to take a side.
51:09It's always usually against Kyron. And they're just both good.
51:12You both play him. So he'll be my hold.
51:15Javante has nine targets this season. And that was something that, like, I know in the summer I talked a lot with
51:22Fitz about how Javante is kind of a nothing burger in the passing game, especially after the first few weeks of last
51:29season where he was catching passes and then just totally stopped.
51:33If he's catching passes again, he's somebody that I do want to be buying.
51:38We'll see if that lasts the whole season. But eight catches already on the season, including a receiving touchdown.
51:44I'm kind of interested in buying all these guys at cost, honestly.
51:48I don't want to pay up for any of them, but I'm willing to pay market value, I think, for all three.
51:55So that's kind of why I want to include all three.
51:58So all three guys, would you take over on Marion Hampton?
52:02Yes or no? Yeah. Okay. I don't love saying it, but I think you have to, honestly.
52:07But that's the tier, though, right? All three are ranked behind him in expert consensus rankings for rest of season.
52:14So that is a very doable trade. Hampton is where?
52:17RB 11, 8 chance 12, Javante 13, Kyron 16.
52:20Yeah. I also have Hampton at 11 because I think – I feel like my ranking is more projective of what the market price for him should be.
52:29Like, this is how he should be valued, even though we just outlined how this could go very south for him in the upcoming weeks.
52:37And this is – might be the time to cash out.
52:41Another trio here. David Montgomery, Cam Scadaboo, Travion Henderson.
52:44Henderson getting the explosive touchdown this week. Scadaboo obviously has the offensive questions with darts, injury, and David Montgomery having nowhere close
52:51to the game he had in week one. And buy, sell, or hold Montgomery, Scadaboo, and Henderson.
52:56Man, I wish I had been more defined about selling David Montgomery last week.
53:01I wrote about it but did not bring it to the show.
53:05Instead, I was a coward and said Chuba Hubbard was a sell, and I got what I deserve for him.
53:11Got what I deserve because Jonathan Brooks is not coming back.
53:15That was the worst advice I gave last week, trading away Chuba Hubbard.
53:19But we will keep on keeping on. Going to sell David Montgomery anyway because I just don't – didn't like him in
53:26draft season, didn't score the touchdown, still have issues with this offensive line for the Houston Texans, especially without Nico Collins.
53:33This offense just isn't the same. Keep Cam Scadaboo because he is so good and so fun.
53:39And if Jackson Dart misses any more time, it's just going to be Cam Scadaboo, Wildcat formation.
53:44Dude, I would sign up for that type of offense.
53:47Like, that would be fun to watch. And then Henderson will be the bye, right?
53:52You know, Ramondre's never going to go away. But every time the guy fumbles, it gives Henderson a shot.
53:58And I think that the fact that Henderson scored right away after Stevenson fumbled in the same drive is just a reminder
54:06of, like, a subtle nudge at the coaching staff for Ingen doing him to be like, dude, like, we got this guy
54:13with a rocket attached to his back. Let's give him more opportunities and less for Ramondre.
54:18No, we said this all last year. But, hey, streaks are meant to be broken, man.
54:23Maybe this is the time that they finally shift back towards Henderson.
54:27So, that's what we'll go with. Let's quickly do a quarterback trio here, Erickson.
54:32Justin Herbert, Tyler Shuck, Jordan. Love three interesting names from the fantasy perspective.
54:36Love, obviously, losing Jaden Reed this week. You know, a player that I really liked coming into the season, honestly.
54:42Shuck has looked awesome ever since he got into the second half of that Lions game.
54:48And then Herbert, you know, we could not have been higher on in August.
54:52He's a mid-round quarterback and has certainly not panned out.
54:55So, at this point, two weeks in, buy, sell, or hold.
54:59Herbert, Shuck, and Love. So, we're going to buy Shuck because his schedule is really good the rest of the season.
55:06Just buying the Saints in general. Basically, if you're a Saint not named Travis HN, I want you on my team in some way, shape, or form.
55:14So, Shuck's a buy. Love would probably be my sell for me.
55:18I feel like both his quarterbacks feel like sells.
55:21But right now, the stock for Herbert is so...
55:24He's going to get dropped. And like, you can't...
55:27I don't know if you can sell Herbert for really anything.
55:31So, he'll be my hold because I just don't think that anybody's going to want to acquire him.
55:37Even though you've got a matchup here against the Buffalo Bills.
55:40Where even if Hampton doesn't show out, it could be a game where Herbert has to do a little bit more and plays better.
55:48So, I like Herbert probably as the hold. And Jordan Love would be the sell for me.
55:53Losing Jaden Reed is not good. And as bad as the offensive line has been for the Chargers, Packers offensive line is worse.
56:01So, that concerns me about him long term. Took more injuries this week too.
56:05Yep. So, they're playing on a short week against the Falcons.
56:09They don't have a pass rush. You're probably not going to see that happen this week.
56:14But that's where I would be concerned. So, I would sell Jordan Love.
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