0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hello everybody, welcome to Fantasy Pros.
0:04I'm Ryan Warmly, joined by Tara Roberts. We are giving you 5 moves to make before Week 6.
0:09We're in the middle of October. Season is flying by as it always does.
0:13Tara, a little bit easier of a week this week.
0:16Not going into the week with some of the bye weeks and the injuries heading in.
0:21But the actual Sunday viewing experience, like lots of fun touchdowns, big games, crazy finishes.
0:25There are injuries as there always will be in any season of NFL football, but it wasn't quite as bad as the last couple of weeks had been.
0:33Again, there were still some as we were talking about before we started recording, but generally speaking, I think a pretty positive Week 5.
0:40Yeah, no, I think so too. I was thinking that as I was making the waiver wire list, I was like, ah,
0:47you know, it's not a thrilling one because, you know, nothing really catastrophic happened.
0:51Yeah, so it was good. Overall, we had a fun ending to the funny ending to the Sunday night game.
0:56Great week for me as a Packers fan and a Clemson fan because they didn't play.
1:01So I have no, no embarrassing losses. Very nice.
1:04Yeah, I was, I was all ready to come on here and be embarrassed by Mark Andrews ruining the week for me
1:10and giving me a very sour note to end Sunday on with his performance in Sunday Night Football.
1:15But they pulled it out in an exciting finish at the end of the game.
1:20Shouts to Tyler Huntley. So yeah, that was a good one to finish.
1:23I mean, a weird way to start the day with, you know, the ending to the Eagles-Jags game.
1:29Weird middle of the day with the ending to Commanders-Giants and then a weird finish with Ravens-Falcons.
1:34So quite a day there. A reminder for everybody that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at fantasypros.com slash rankings.
1:41We also have our consensus rest of season rankings.
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1:50who have actually updated their rankings since the games have been played.
1:53So you're getting nothing out to add a date there.
1:56If I mentioned any consensus rest of season rankings on the show today, as a reminder, it will be those updated consensus rest of season rankings from fantasypros.com.
2:04Tara, you've got, it looks like three buys and two sells for us today.
2:08Let's start with one of those buys. Yeah, this is a, this is a goodbye.
2:13I feel like we're not giving enough attention to Denzel Boston.
2:16We are consistently, consistently seeing him get it done week to week.
2:20It might feel shaky from the Cleveland Browns, but it feels shaky because there's never really high receptions, high, massively high yardage totals.
2:26But regardless, Boston just gets it done one way or the other.
2:30He's had a minimum of 12 fantasy points and full PPR in every game, but one this season.
2:35He's had a very nice ceiling game in what has proven to be a pretty difficult defensive matchup for receivers.
2:41Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay defense that was shutting down CD lamb in week two, he had 95 yards and a touchdown against them.
2:47He's the very clear and consistent wide receiver one of this offense on a week to week basis, both snap count and routes run prove it.
2:55And he's proving that he can get it done in any type of game script or whether doesn't really matter.
3:01So I have complete trust in him. And we were talking about a rookie that has stepped in and immediately ascended to the wide receiver one.
3:08He didn't have to work his way to it.
3:11And he's maintained it through five straight weeks, even with a shaky quarterback situation.
3:15So this is the kind of player that we often see having those back half of the season rookie breakouts where it's a bad team.
3:22Well, you know what, actually, you know, let me be kinder to Cleveland.
3:26You're not a bad team. You're doing well overall.
3:29That was kind of your exceeding expectations. It's just unexpected team.
3:32And we're always feeling like we're looking for something more from them offensively as we continue through the back half of the season and they continue to rise.
3:40We'll see a potential higher breakout for Denzel Boston.
3:43And you want to be in on that. He's still very reasonably priced and his playoff schedule is pretty nice with the Giants, Baltimore and Indianapolis.
3:50Yeah, the overall rest of season schedule, I would say doesn't really lean in one direction or the other too strongly.
3:56But that finish when it's going to matter most in the fantasy playoffs and when you would expect a rookie receiver to
4:03maybe be at their best, they often will break out late in the season, could kind of come together for a really nice finish for fantasy managers.
4:11He's in the 30s in terms of the rest of season rankings.
4:14He's at wide receiver 34, actually back to back with Carnell Tate, interestingly enough, another rookie.
4:19I think I've had a lot of conversations with Fitz and Dynasty shows in context about Denzel Boston and how he would
4:25be the rookie wide receiver one if we were doing rookie drafts again today.
4:29And just the impact he's made right away and the eye test, right?
4:33Just watching him, you can tell this guy looks like a really good NFL receiver.
4:37And so I think excitement about when they do upgrade the quarterback there.
4:41But we're thinking rest of season just on this show.
4:44And I still think he's a good call there.
4:47And I think he's probably undervalued. Like I find it hard to believe, barring injury, that he will be as low as
4:53wide receiver 34 in scoring rest of season. The last three weeks he's been, or really just every week I'll say, you
4:59know, wide receiver 24, 12, 52, 30, and 20.
5:02So outside of that game against the Carolina Panthers, he has been better than wide receiver 34 in every game this season.
5:08So yeah, it just seems like a good player who's making an early impact like you expect good players to do.
5:15It's almost pretty straightforward. Is there a type of player you have in mind that you would consider moving to go get a Denzel Boston?
5:22Yeah, I think you don't have to try and find a deal and find somebody that's lower value.
5:27I think you can sell him from someone who has a perceived higher market value.
5:31You could look at maybe a Roma Dunzee still holding on a little bit or perhaps a Dosh Downs.
5:37I think a DK Metcalf is a very interesting one.
5:40And then also Ladd McConkie. At this point, the way that the Chargers offense is struggling, inconsistencies, injuries that he's playing through,
5:46and the fact that they're just not competitive. Ultimately, I would rather have Denzel Boston on a weekly basis than a guy like Ladd McConkie.
5:53Yeah, I think McConkie's a really good one to highlight because they're very close in ECR.
5:58McConkie's got the name value. There are maybe managers out there who are going to say like, hey, once this offense does
6:05get going, it's going to get going. I don't personally believe that, of course.
6:09But I think he's a name that is movable.
6:11It's not a guarantee, but I think it's worth trying.
6:14A guy like that is a good call there.
6:17All right, let's go to your next player to buy who, ironically, I already mentioned is right next to Denzel Boston in the rest of season rankings.
6:25You did. Yeah, same kind of concept, a little bit different team environment, but Carnell Tate.
6:29You'll notice that when I was talking about players that you could sell, I did not mention Carnell Tate because I think they're very similar.
6:37I don't think a one for one flip would really do much.
6:40They're both guys that I would like to target.
6:43And I view them very similarly. Again, rookie wide receivers operating as a clear wide receiver one in their offense, but held
6:49back by inconsistent play of their team in general.
6:52It's just that the inconsistency is a little worse for Tennessee.
6:55I thought after we got that big boom game that our buy low window on Carnell Tate because you always get the rookie hype.
7:02So once you get that big confirmation, everybody wants in and they're unwilling to part.
7:06Luckily, Tennessee hit us with a really embarrassing loss to the OVM four Texans and offense looked terrible.
7:11Now, in no way, shape or form did I expect Tennessee to win the actual game, but 170 yards through the air in a blowout, pretty unacceptable.
7:19So we all know the struggles that Cam Ward is having in terms of just maxing out very infrequently over 200 yards.
7:26I mean, conveniently, the one game where he did throw for over 200 yards was the Carnell Tate breakout game.
7:31And it was just barely over 200. We're not asking for much from Cam Ward.
7:36We're just asking for just a little bit more volume and consistency from him that can allow Carnell Tate to be that clear wide receiver one.
7:43Going through struggles. And while I can't promise that the offense as a whole in Tennessee is really going to turn things
7:50around, I can see the progress for Carnell Tate as he continues to push forward and really just ascend and have the
7:56potential to have something that I kind of thought preseason that he might have a similar season to that of Ted Arroa McMillan's rookie season.
8:03Right. Where you're in an offense, not pushing a lot of hefty volume, but you are still the alpha in that offense
8:10and you can produce and you can still have a rookie of the year type of season.
8:15So there's still promise here for him. And luckily for us, they gave us another little buy low window on him where we can still get in.
8:23And honestly, there are better days I've had. We've got a great rest of season schedule plus, you know, a decently nice playoff schedule.
8:30The only really difficult matchups that he's truly going to face rest of season is like, you know, the two matchups against Jacksonville understandable.
8:37We won't expect a lot out of that. But outside of that, there are really no major issues.
8:42I have a lot of confidence in Carnell Tate having some big weeks rest of season.
8:46I have a lot of confidence in him as a player, first and foremost.
8:51And then I have confidence in him having some big games like he had against the Ravens in week four.
8:56And he's obviously going to get into the end zone.
8:59I love the Tedder O McMillan sort of comp there, like a guy who we liked as a player, high draft capital, maybe struggling offense.
9:07It just wasn't getting the end zone as much as we felt like he should, particularly early in the season.
9:12That could flip in the second half of the season.
9:15I think it's a great, great comp, great call, all of it.
9:19I do feel like there will be some inconsistency here, like more so than some of the other high level receivers.
9:25I would imagine this will be not like a full on roller coaster, like going to make you sick at King's Dominion type of roller coaster.
9:32But like a light roller coaster where there are some up and downs, not that intense, but like still, I think it's
9:39going to be shaky week to week. Now, that is also the nature of the wide receiver position, as we have talked
9:45about on the show earlier this year before. So you kind of ascribe that to all receivers, but especially somebody as talented
9:52as you may be in an offense that is as limiting as this one has appeared to be so far this season.
9:58So I say all that to say I like Tate as a buy if the consistency can go up at all.
10:04I think it could look really good. You just have to be, in my opinion, willing to take some of those down
10:10weeks and just kind of know going in like he's going to have some big games, we think, but he's also going to have some duds.
10:18If you are okay with that, then I'm fully on board with this.
10:22But I don't think you should be going after him if you're like expecting him to say, oh, he's going to be
10:28a wide receiver when he's going to be getting me 13 plus fantasy points every week.
10:33Yeah, yeah. But a good player. No, that's a very valid point, for sure.
10:37His inconsistencies will come. You're holding. Perhaps when you look at this, this is a move that you are making as a
10:43very confident team that is looking ahead. You don't have problems.
10:47You're looking ahead for the future and the potential end of the season impact that he could have with a playoff schedule.
10:53You've got another wide receiver that you're looking to buy here.
10:56Yeah, I am. Michael Wilson. I know your instant thought when you hear this is no one is going to be willing
11:03to buy Michael Wilson directly after the Marvin Harrison Jr.
11:05trade. But, oh, people, they are out there. And I think there are valid reasons why people might be a little bit
11:12scared and might be willing to sell thinking that they're selling high.
11:15And that's really the key there is that you're buying from someone who has the perception that he is selling high out
11:22of what could be a shaky situation in an offense where he's not the first look.
11:26It's Trey McBride, right? And it helps that we had the performance that we had against Detroit, which can reinforce that narrative
11:33because Detroit should have been an extremely plus matchup for the receivers, particularly Michael Wilson in your first game without Marvin Harrison Jr.
11:39But Detroit's most glaring vulnerability is specifically to the tight end position.
11:43We have seen it in literally every single game with the exception of the Carolina game.
11:48And this game was absolutely dominated by the Arizona tight ends, not just Trey McBride, right?
11:52Trey McBride had around 21 fantasy points in PPR, but the entire tight end group literally doubled that.
11:57So it was just this weird scenario where we got the volume we were looking for from Jacoby Brissett in terms of
12:04having nearly 300 yards, three touchdowns, pushing it. It just all went to the tight ends.
12:09Yeah. And this aggressive volume is going to continue, right?
12:11It's going to continue because they are going to be consistently playing from behind.
12:15So realistically, there's just such a baseline in expected targets on a weekly basis.
12:20And he does because of the fact that he is playing behind Trey McBride and they will have bad matchups, right?
12:26There is a lower floor that we would like.
12:28You know, it can be a single digit fantasy point floor that we saw in week five, but he has an outrageously
12:35high ceiling and that's not gone away. That is the boom player that we are looking for that can win your week
12:41hands down on any given week with the capability of getting 15 targets.
12:45I think if you're looking at trying to buy a Michael Wilson, you're saying, hey, he had just had a game without Marvin Harrison Jr.
12:52And he only had 30 yards. It's a great matchup against the Lions.
12:56And then you point to the next several weeks at the Rams, Broncos, at Dallas, which is good, at Seattle, home for the Rams again at Kansas City.
13:04Those could all be really tough matchups defensively. Some of them might not be as bad as you might expect by reputation,
13:10depending on health or, you know, like you even to your point about them.
13:15Chasing points and just needing to throw late and getting some garbage time stuff.
13:19All that totally valid. But those are a lot of tough matchups, too.
13:22That wouldn't scare me off, but maybe you can use that to your advantage in a negotiation and kind of highlight that
13:29if you are trying to find the Michael Wilson manager to strike a deal with in your league.
13:34Because I do agree that, like, the volume will be there this season.
13:38Week to week, sure. Maybe there are weeks where it's a tight end week, something like that.
13:43But I think we're going to look up at the end of the year and say, hey, he got, like, enough targets
13:49for us to all be pretty, you know, pleased with the situation.
13:53And he's a good enough player to take advantage of that.
13:56So, yeah, I'm with you if this is doable.
13:58In your opinion, is there, like, is there a running back or another receiver that you think lines up well to try and make this do?
14:06Is Wider receiver 17 in the consensus rest of the season ranking?
14:09So it's not like he's ranked that low in those rankings.
14:13Correct. Yeah. But what do you think it would take to get him?
14:16Oh, from a running back perspective, I feel like it would, you know, you know, it's interesting.
14:21You could panic sell some people if you have certain players that are stepping into increased volume.
14:26I don't know. We'll talk about it in a little bit.
14:30But I would probably try to make more of a wide receiver flip.
14:33Perhaps people that are would like a more stable quarterback situation, a stable offensive situation.
14:38And perhaps they look at a Luther Burden and you've got those Luther Burden truthers out there.
14:43They know that Caleb Williams is coming back. We know that this is a high functioning offense that is going to be pushing points.
14:50We've got common on guy injuries. So perhaps they lean a little bit more on the pass.
14:55So perhaps that's one that you could target. Maybe flipping for guys who are kind of around that area that have the
15:01same inconsistency issues, but better name value guys like Jalen Waddell, Luther Burden, something like that.
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15:18Analyze your next deal at fantasypros.com slash analyzer. All right, Terry, you got a couple of sells for us.
15:23Who's the first? I do. Tip my hat there.
15:26We're selling Jalen Waddell. My hope was this week, I had a whole plan baked into this week, that we would get
15:32Sean Payton taking over play calling, and that would result in him trying to prove a point because he's Sean Payton.
15:38And we would get hyper targeting to the guy they traded for, Jalen Waddell, and get some creativity with him.
15:44And technically speaking, he did get a little creative.
15:47He had a carry for nine yards, but two receptions for just 19 yards.
15:51I was hoping we would get that boom game so that we could sell, because I think the inconsistency is just going to continue.
15:58I don't think it's going anywhere. But I would rather start shopping him around and try to sell rather than waiting to
16:04see if we're going to get that boom game.
16:07Because in reality, that boom game is not coming this week.
16:10We've got Seattle. It would come the week after in week seven against Arizona.
16:14If you want to wait for that, cool. But the further you push it, you might be risking a window in terms of his value dipping out.
16:22Because again, we talk about the name value that he has, and Jalen Waddell absolutely has that.
16:27I believe we talked about him as a sell high back in like week three or so, and this was the exact reason.
16:34The volume in this offense is not trustworthy. And who you want to blame it on, whether you want to blame it
16:40on play calling, or you want to blame it on Bo Nix, whatever it is, too many bodies, there are a thousand reasons it could be.
16:48But flipping him now, rather than messing around with this offense where we see so much inconsistency across every single position, and
16:54I don't think it's going to change. Yeah, I wonder if the only thing I would disagree with is just time it better, right?
17:01Like wait until he has one more big game and try to do it.
17:05I mean, if you are that concerned, then maybe it's worth saying, hey, the longer you wait, maybe the more the price
17:11goes down if the struggles and lack of production continues.
17:14But obviously, like he's only had one game this season inside the top 24 at the position.
17:19He had another where he was wide receiver 25, so that was close, obviously, when he had the touchdown against San Francisco.
17:26But it has been so up and down that I almost would just say like, the only thing I disagree with here
17:32is don't sell him coming off of a game with 19 yards.
17:36Wait until he has that one game where he's going to get 95 and a touchdown, and then go sell him then.
17:42Try to say, oh, he's finally broken out here.
17:45Because I don't disagree with you at all on the overall analysis of the situation.
17:49And again, another guy that you can maybe use the schedule to your advantage.
17:53If you're trying to sell, looking at that December schedule with the Dolphins, Jets, Raiders, Bills all in a row from week 13 to 16.
18:00So definitely agree. I just wonder if maybe the timing could be improved.
18:04But again, like sometimes you fall into that trap and that boom game never comes.
18:08And all of a sudden, you got to hold the back when you could have traded him earlier.
18:14Like a David Montgomery, right? Yeah. How long did you wait for it to turn around?
18:18And now you're looking at it like, oh, man, I'm stuck.
18:21Yep, absolutely. Great, great comparison. So yeah, let's try to time this well would be my only piece of advice here to add to that.
18:29One more sell for us, Tara. It's going to be Woody Marks.
18:32And no offense to him whatsoever. I'm pro Woody Marks.
18:35Quite frankly, he has looked like the better back in this offense from the jump.
18:40We did a bold predictions video during draft season.
18:42One of my bold predictions was that David Montgomery would finish as a mid-tier RB3 at best.
18:47It was bold. And I'm not saying that it can't turn around.
18:51Expecting David Montgomery to... My problem was is that expecting David Montgomery to have the numbers that we got from Joe Mixon,
18:57it just felt like a big reach. And expecting him at very least to perform as he did in Detroit was a
19:03little bit flawed as well because the Texans offense is straight up not Detroit.
19:07The offensive line is nowhere near even Detroit's worst version.
19:10So this was just a poor setup for everyone involved from the jump, particularly the running backs.
19:15And there was always going to be contributions from Woody Marks.
19:18And now Woody Marks finds himself in the ability to showcase as the three down back.
19:23And we got the news that it's a multi-week injury for David Montgomery.
19:27He's week to week. So use this opportunity. If you need Woody Marks, hey, I'm not saying you have to 100% bail
19:33out, oh my God, it's going to be catastrophic.
19:36No. If you don't need Woody Marks and you were already good and this was a guy that was sitting on your
19:42bench and now you're going to be questioning, ah, do I flex him this week or do I not?
19:48Do I flex him over Denzel Boston? If that's going to be the thought process for you, then go ahead and shop
19:54him around to a running back needy team that is going to overpay.
19:58Because as of right now, we look at the trade market values.
20:01They haven't updated because now we have to look at him and try to figure out what is the realistic expectation for him rest of season.
20:09Because it's possible that he can just perform so well that he takes over the bulk of the workload and we come
20:15back and we get David Montgomery maybe at the goal line or something like that.
20:20And the usage flips and it's more of a 60-40.
20:23But at the end of the day, we technically already saw this same show last year in 2025 of the Woody Marks situation with Nick Chubb.
20:30And I would say that David Montgomery is better at this point probably than Woody Chubb or Nick Chubb was last season.
20:37So remember, yes, we have optimism. But there was also a lot of 15-plus carry games for 60-something yards and that was it.
20:43So limited checkdowns in this version of the offense as well with CJ Stroud.
20:47So look around. Bi-weeks are hitting people. They're out of running backs.
20:51They're desperate. Someone could absolutely use Woody Marks and well overpay for market value on him.
20:56Yeah, this one's interesting because they say multi-week injury for Montgomery.
20:59It's hard to know exactly what that means. If you just throw – let's call that a three-week injury.
21:04I'm not saying that's what it is but just for the sake of argument.
21:08Well, Woody Marks' next three weeks are at the Jags in London.
21:12But the Jags, which is an excellent run defense, the Giants, and then a bye week.
21:16So two of those three weeks is either probably going to be bad or actually unusable in the bye week.
21:22Beyond that, you get to the Chargers, at Cleveland.
21:25Then there's Indy on there. It does open up a bit but then Montgomery might be back by then.
21:30You might have missed that window. So yeah, the upcoming schedule isn't doing him any favors and we don't know the exact timeline of Montgomery's absence yet.
21:38Now if it comes out that it's actually going to be like several weeks for Montgomery and he's going on IR, maybe then it's a different story.
21:46But like the rest of season rankings, for example, Woody Marks have him at RB35.
21:51That's including the knowledge that Montgomery is going to miss time.
21:54He's not getting much higher than just inside the top 36 of the position.
21:58So I think this is a very classic example of selling high on the enthusiasm and the hopium for a guy who's
22:04about to get an opportunity that we're just not sure is all that good.
22:08I mean this is another one to mention Fitz again.
22:11On the Dynasty show, all summer he was talking about how he just didn't think Woody Marks was that good of a player.
22:18Like last year he had this opportunity in certain scenarios and was just okay.
22:22And I imagine he still feels the same way.
22:25I haven't talked to him about this scenario specifically this year.
22:28But yeah, it just makes me feel like I wouldn't mind having Woody Marks on my team and I'll play him against
22:34the Giants for example and all that sort of stuff.
22:37But if you can go solicit offers, I think this is a good one to try to capitalize on whatever degree of enthusiasm there is for now.
22:45Like, oh hey, Texans, like maybe they're going to start winning games, turn around now after they got the first win of
22:51the season, sort of broke the seal there. And now you get to starting running back on this team.
22:57They're going to start scoring more because they traded for Marvin Harrison Jr.
23:01Like all that stuff, there's going to be enthusiasm out there that I think you can take advantage of.
23:06You're not going to trade him for like a superstar, but I think you can get better value than he will give you.
23:13Yeah, maybe you could go and reach and somebody says, hey, I need a running back.
23:17I'll give you Carnell Tate. You know, just go and look for offers like that and see what you could get.
23:24It's not going to be a superstar unless it's some kind of crazy situation.
23:28But if you don't specifically need Woody Marks and what you mentioned about the schedule was quite literally perfect, it's not ideal in the first place.
23:35And someone might be willing to overlook that because they need someone to start over the next couple of weeks.
23:41The guys in the same range in the receiver rankings as he is ranked in running backs rest of season are guys
23:47like Tate in Boston, Roma Doonze, just taking an upside swing.
23:51I see even DK Metcalf who I don't really love.
23:53Like I think a lot of those make sense as if you are okay not using a starting running back the next
24:00few weeks and find the manager in your league who desperately needs one.
24:04And I promise there's somebody out there who really needs one.
24:07And then I think you can take advantage. That's a good call.
24:10All right. We'll go ahead and wrap things up there.
24:13Those were our five moves to make before week six for Tara.
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26:14It was the most sexist job I think you could have.
26:18Until one day, a group of stewardesses spark a revolution that reshapes America.
26:21Listen to The Girlfriends, Flight or Fight, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
26:27This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human.