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0:15Joe Pisapia. And today I thought we'd do something special.
0:18In honor of the World Cup, we're going international.
0:21It's the UK takeover of the show. Tom Strachan is here with us.
0:25Also always on a lot of the Fantasy Pro shows.
0:28The Best Ball Show with Andrew Erickson. And I brought in one of my other favorite folks from across the pond.
0:34The host of the 5 Yard Rush Podcast, which is huge, over in the UK is Lord Adam Murfit.
0:40So he is here today with us and we are going to talk with Murf and Tom about some of the potential
0:46high ceiling players that you want to put on your rosters in 2026.
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1:16Tom, you edit people don't know this a lot of the podcasts that I do.
1:20And I got to say, this must be like a new hell for you and a special torture that now you've got to be on one with me.
1:29Do you have to edit the show as well in the back end?
1:33That's that's brutal. I'm pretty relieved to find out that it's actually Joe editing this one, Joe Pisapia.
1:38So, yeah, I mean, normally I come off the best ball podcast with myself and Andrew, which can run to be like
1:45an hour and a half long during the draft.
1:47And then immediately have to sit down and edit my own voice for another two or three hours as well as Andrew's little chuckles.
1:54But this should be just in and out and job done.
1:58There we go. I don't want to take up too much of your time, Tom, God forbid.
2:03Now, Murph, I got to ask you, too. I don't know if you and Tom realize that even if your analysis is
2:09just mid-level, it's going to sound much smarter to this audience.
2:13Because here in America, we always believe that anything that someone says in a British accent is automatically going to be taken
2:19as like, well, that must be true. Is it sounds really good.
2:23Are you aware of that? I've seen this in comments from time to time.
2:27However, what I will say is this. People like Tom and I have to watch games at one in the morning.
2:33So I'm hoping the analysis is going to be slightly more than mid given that our level of dedication to the sport.
2:40But there we go. It's definitely gonna be way more.
2:43You guys are. I think also I love both of you so much is that you are a representation of of how beloved our game is.
2:51Is becoming throughout the world. And the fact that, you know, in places like UK where you have five yard rush being
2:57a popular show and and Tom all the work that you do with how seen in fancy pros, it just goes to
3:04show you that it is more than just the World Cup that has everybody a buzz across the globe.
3:09It's also a little football as well in the NFL.
3:12So I love that our game is becoming more international.
3:15I've got a lot of feelings still about the latest World Cup game that I've been sharing on every show that I
3:22still don't think it's a red card. I don't understand it.
3:25I also don't understand why you can appeal a red card situation on the video replay for more suspension time, but not less.
3:32Tom, can you explain that to me? You're a very smart guy.
3:36I don't understand that. I'm a one sport man, Joe, and ball is not round the one that I follow.
3:41Oh, God, you're such an OG guy. I mean, I can help you out here, Joe, in the sense that Flo Balogun,
3:48by the way, is a player I've seen quite a few times because he came from my club, Arsenal's Academy.
3:54So I've actually seen him live a few times, played a few games for us before we sold him for a nice, tiny profit to Monaco.
4:02So the reason they you can't appeal it, it's a FIFA long regular regulation, because by the time the appeals process goes through, the next game happens.
4:10So it's you've never been able to appeal a red card in tournaments.
4:14If only had we the technology, Murph, where we can go in and see things instantly over and over and over and over again.
4:21I'm so glad that now you get to witness what I have to put up with games a season over here where
4:27we've got this rubbish, which is even worse. We have to get binoculars out to work out where imaginary lines that are drawn incorrectly are.
4:35So, you know, I've always said the NFL replay is one of the best replays in the world.
4:40Well, rugby replay is also one of the best in the world.
4:44And yet soccer, football, whatever you want to call it, depending on where we're listening from, has somehow come up with a system that is just bad.
4:52I love it. Excellent. God, I'm so happy you two are here.
4:55All right. Let's talk about some of these high ceiling players here and let's jump in with some of the early guys
5:02here, the guys in the top 75. And you can find that ECR, the expert consensus rankings and the consensus ADP over fantasy pros dot com.
5:10So go check that out today. Let's start here with you, Tom.
5:13Let's go in house to the first guy you selected.
5:16ECR of 34 overall Zay Flowers. I know that's a guy that Bogman is very in on.
5:21So for Bogman to be that in on a Raven says a lot because he is Mr.
5:26Stealer. So it must like keep him up at night.
5:29I am also in on Zay flowers. Talk to the people of why he carries a different ceiling in 2026 than we've seen before.
5:37I think Zay flowers is just one of these players that people struggle to get on board with because he doesn't look
5:43like an alpha wide receiver, but the production he gives you is so verging on it outside of one small caveat and that's touchdowns.
5:50Like, you know, he scored 14 touchdowns across his first three seasons in the NFL and it's just never really happened.
5:57There's never been that season where all of a sudden he becomes the guy in the red zone.
6:02Of course, in week 18 outside of fantasy season, that's when he started getting into red zone last year.
6:08But the Ravens, they were just truly terrible when it came to the red zone last year.
6:13Lamar Jackson ranked 35th out of 36 quarterbacks in red zone completion rate and it wasn't all on Lamar.
6:18A lot of this was part of the Ravens just systemic problems across the board.
6:23The offensive line allowed a 62% pressure rate last year, which was 9% higher than any other quarterback faced.
6:28Jackson was sacked on 12.5% of dropbacks again, due to that poor offensive line play.
6:33And then when he did get the ball out, Ravens pass catchers were dropping the ball at 16% rate in the red
6:39zone, which was 3% higher than any other quarterback dealt with flowers.
6:43Didn't get enough targets down there. He's typically quite reliable when he does get the ball.
6:48You know, we've seen him increase his production for three straight seasons coming off 1200 receiving yards.
6:53And he did that with Lamar banged up and missing time.
6:56He's clearly their number one choice. And sooner or later, that touchdown regression is going to hit.
7:01And the way that the new offense is being talked about, I think that this is the year.
7:07He's my 28th player overall compared to the ECR of 34 and he's my wide receiver 13.
7:12Murph, you have a running back as the first guy you're going to talk about today with a high ceiling.
7:18His ECR is 32 right now in the ADP is going off as the 14th running back off the board.
7:24And in his second season of 2023, everybody said he can't do it.
7:27He can't be the guy. It's going to be Royce Freeman or it was Daryl Henderson, I believe was in that conversation.
7:34And then guess what? Kyron Williams did it and he was RB six.
7:38Then they said, I can't repeat it. And he did again in 2024 and he was RB seven.
7:43And then last year they said, well, eventually this is going to turn here.
7:47And then he was RB nine. It feels like we're back in the Aaron Jones cycle.
7:52Every year, everyone keeps telling you that Kyron Williams can't do it yet.
7:56We all love the Rams offense. We love Sean McVay.
7:59Matthew Stafford's coming off an MVP season. The Rams are the favorite to win the Superbowl.
8:04I mean, I don't understand. Like at some point, yes, Blake Corum certainly did eat into the touchdowns a little bit, but Kyron Williams is still a thing.
8:12And I think people still ignore the upside that he has.
8:15Yeah. And also you've got to think that Blake Corum is not a bad thing for Kyron Williams.
8:21Yes. Blake Corum is going to come in. He did last year and he's going to carry some of that workload and that's going to be fine.
8:29But Kyron Williams still remains the trusted third down back and also the red zone back in one of the NFL's best offenses.
8:36And that Blake Corum thing, whatever you want to call it, is just driving his price down so far that he becomes a significant value.
8:43I mean, you're talking a guy that is consistently, as you say, continuing to put numbers up three straight years as an RB1.
8:50And the great thing when Corum came in last year is actually Williams' efficiency approved from 4.1 to 4.8 yards per carry.
8:57So actually it's great. They're taking away some of the work between the 20s and they're allowing him just to be a little bit more productive.
9:04There are some things about him that aren't necessarily impressive.
9:07He's not the most explosive runner, 21st in explosive run rate and 25th in missed tackle rate, but he continues just to continue to pound the numbers.
9:15And it's the red zone touches that are really going to help here.
9:19He did have 63% of the red zone rushing attempts last year.
9:23I think that's still going to remain high this year as well.
9:26So I'm looking at him thinking, RB14, I've got him as RB8.
9:30I think he's a nice significant value if you're looking for wide receiver, wide receiver starts, picking up a running back in the third round.
9:37And Kyron Williams can tick that box and get a nice value for you in round three.
9:42Tom seems to think that's a little high. I can tell by his reaction.
9:47You think it's too, you think eight is too high considering he finishes six, seven, nine, literally the last three years.
9:53Yeah. I've got Kyron Williams at RB15. I think I'm just a couple of spots below.
9:58And I agree with what Murph saying about like, uh, he's definitely the third down back.
10:02That's not really something we see, uh, Blake Corum and Blake Corum definitely is more of the explosive between the runners guy.
10:09But I think that the split was so significant last year that if you've got a runner like Blake Corum on the
10:16field, who ranked RB15 out of 54 running backs in explosive run rate or rushes over 15 yards.
10:21Some of those are going to break for touchdowns, which then reduces the amount of opportunities that you can get on the field for goal line work.
10:29So yeah, I'm just a little bit lower, but I agree in general that Kyron Williams still deserves to be a significant amount above Blake Corum in ADP.
10:37All right, let's go to the next guy on your list, Tom, because it's a, it's a great one.
10:43ECR of 65, uh, usually about in ADP, the fifth tight end coming off the board.
10:48It's Tucker craft who last year, second and fancy points per game.
10:51A lot of people forget because of the injury and you know, he became a distant memory for a lot of us, but he was crushing it.
10:59Okay. We'll see how that works out. But at the end of the day, that's all a lot of ifs.
11:05I feel like the one sure thing in this offense, even when you go to the running game, the Josh Jacobs scenario
11:12was kind of got a lot of ifs around it.
11:15Yeah. I know the injury return is an if, but Tom, it does feel like we have craft as like this screaming
11:21of value where you watch the top couple of guys go off a tight end.
11:26And if you want to get in on that, you can do it on the cheaper craft.
11:31And he has the same exact upside as the others to finish the tops of the fantasy points and tight end anyway.
11:38Yeah. I can guarantee you took a crafts ECR is going to jump significantly when we get into training camp and he's cleared reasonably early.
11:45There's a little bit of talk that you might miss a week or so, but all impressions from the team, from the
11:52beat reporters, from the Twitter doctors who yes, they hit and miss, but all of them seem to be aligned with the
11:58fact that took a craft is making excellent progress and going to be out there early.
12:03And to your point, Joe losing Romeo dubs from this team opens things up so much more.
12:08Yeah. He's a player who scored 21 touchdowns in the last four years that he was there.
12:13They traded Don Tavian Wicks as well. Tucker craft already was the red zone option.
12:18He had a 26% target share there last year.
12:20You look at what Tucker craft does across the entire field.
12:23He's not one of these tight ends who needs to be scoring huge amounts of touchdowns because he is the best tight
12:30end in the league when it comes to yards after the catch.
12:34Last year, he had 10.6 yards after the catch.
12:36There was no other tight end with 25 or more catches who was over eight.
12:41You go back to 2024 when he broke out 9.3 yards after the catch per reception.
12:46Nobody else over eight. He's just an absolute yak monster.
12:49He was third in yards per route run, second in yards per target.
12:52And this offense, as you say, it's kind of condensing down a little bit.
12:57It's making it easier for us in the fantasy game.
13:00And the moment that Tucker craft is cleared and the moment that it looks like he's going to play week one, his
13:06ADP is absolutely taken at least around jump. That's interesting.
13:09I don't think he can take any sort of jump in terms of the order in which he's selected.
13:15Bauer's love is off the charts. Trey McBride is still going to go top three.
13:19Me alone talking about coast and love on, I think incessantly for the next two months, I don't think he's going to leapfrog him.
13:26Maybe you can leapfrog Tyler Warren. What do you, what do you think, Murph?
13:31Do you think that there is a, there is going to be a significant bump there?
13:35Uh, as Tom is alluding to when craft takes the field again and starts to look like his old self.
13:41I think you're going to see this switch between, I do think he can get above Warren.
13:46I think people are going to look at that Colts offense.
13:50We'll talk about that more through the show, but, and there's a lot to buy into there, especially with the amount of
13:56vacated targets and people initially pointing them quite a significant amount to Warren.
14:00I don't think that's necessarily the case. I think he's going to get a little bump, but as you, as Tom has
14:07alluded to with Tucker craft, he is shown in an offense that actually really requires him to step up and play.
14:13That offense has been, dare I say it average the last couple of years, and it's really going to need some big time ball players.
14:20Christian Watson, you're never betting on Matthew golden could take a leap this year.
14:24I'm not overly impressed with what I saw in year one.
14:28That's not to say you can't do it going forward.
14:31So really you're looking at the big playability. The Packers really fell off a cliff when Tucker craft went down.
14:37So he is that big play weapon in this offense and they're going to need him to get running, uh, and get off the ground quickly.
14:44So I actually think it's going to be a lot of force fed targets to Tucker craft because they're going to need to make those chunk plays.
14:53And he's the only reliable one in that offense you can depend on.
14:56So now I think people might hold Warren above him just because of the situation.
15:01And, but I, for me would take craft over Warren any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
15:07So you can tell Murphy's a really good host because he kind of did my work for me already.
15:12And speaking of the Colts, as you know, we kind of alluded to the transition.
15:17Alec Pierce is on your list. The ECR of 71 currently now.
15:20Andrew made a really good comment on the tailgate show the other day talking about if, if Pierce had signed somewhere else,
15:27we'd be talking about him as a fade for the amount of money they're paying him.
15:32But because he resigned with the Colts and it's the same QB and the same quarterback, it feels like the situation is
15:38tidy that we can absolutely see Pierce being a high ceiling play.
15:42Pittman's gone. Josh Downs is there. Warren is still a guy that I prefer, you know, to, to draft at his return on investment.
15:49But the ceiling for Pierce is real, especially if the health goes in the right direction, which again, that was another little, little tidbit information.
15:56I wish we had a little earlier about Pierce, but now we got it eventually.
16:01So talk to me about Pierce and what his ceiling is this year.
16:05I think Pierce's ceiling is absolutely incredible. I think you're looking at, first of all, you've got to look at the contract.
16:11And I know one of the things that Rich, sorry, Tom's co-host Rich talks about a lot is, you know, you follow the GMs, you follow the money.
16:20If GMs are putting investments into players, you have to really pay attention to that.
16:24And again, an $84 million guaranteed over $100 million contract is telling you that they are banking on Pierce to be a significant weapon in their offense.
16:32Now it doesn't always track. It doesn't always pan out, but you have to really like the fact that he's got that.
16:39Then you look at his big play ability. You know, you're talking about over 21.3 yards per catch last year.
16:45And the thing I really love about Pierce, especially as ADP is people are always in for these volume plays.
16:51You look around that, that tier, people are going to be looking at the volume plays.
16:55You don't need significant volume out of Alec Pierce this year.
16:59You know, last year he had a thousand yard season of just 47 catches.
17:03Now he had a little over 80 targets, 84 targets last year.
17:06There's 140 vacated targets in Indianapolis coming into this year.
17:09Alec Pierce doesn't need a lot more additional targets to get into that range into getting into that 1200 yards kind of season here.
17:17So really, if he can see an uptick of 20, 25 targets, which I think is more than realistic, given what's available,
17:23you can see Alec Pierce jump up significantly this season.
17:26And again, as you say, there's that continuity factor.
17:29He's partnered with Daniel Jones, who, you know, was having an excellent season until he went down with injury.
17:34But you also, for me, I just really like drafting guys in this range that have got that big play ability that
17:41you're not relying on these needs to have 15 targets a game to be productive.
17:45You know, Alec Pierce averaged 65 yards a game last year very easily with a few extra targets can get into those 80, 85 yards a game average.
17:54And then that's what you're talking about, a true sort of top 15 wide receiver.
17:58And you're getting him at a really good range at wide receiver 27 here.
18:02All right, let's move on to the guys in the middle rounds.
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21:11Murph, we'll start with you this time. Over in the middle rounds, you're talking about a guy who started off in the
21:17offense pretty well for the Denver Broncos. And then it feels like the inevitable J.K.
21:22Dobbins injury always shows its head. They drafted Coleman in this offseason.
21:25I don't know how that's going to impact necessarily what this run game is a three headed monster.
21:31How's it look? But what's your case for J.K.
21:33Dobbins? Because I want to hear this because I seem to want to take the cheapest guy in Coleman later than even
21:40go for the ECR of 95 at Dobbins. But I do understand your point of view sometimes, which is like, hey, you
21:47want that guy early on, get you off to good start, who has touch on equity.
21:51And that is Dobbins, Murph. Yeah, it really is.
21:54And listen, again, I go back to the point that made earlier.
21:58This team has made a significant investment in J.K.
22:00Dobbins. They've given him a fresh contract with new money.
22:03And that's, again, significant. They've looked at J.K. Dobbins.
22:06They saw what he did last year. And even despite this injury, they're telling you that this is our guy moving forward
22:13in the short term at the very least. Now, you know, the point about the end of the season, that's a real one.
22:19There is some risks here, of course. And, you know, this Frank injury is definitely not something to not pay attention to.
22:26It is significant, especially a player that has had Achilles injuries, knee injuries, et cetera.
22:30But the thing I look at with J.K. Dobbins is how productive he was in this offense and actually how poor this team was without him.
22:38You know, they really started to really falter down the stretch.
22:41They got over the line in a lot of closer games.
22:45But really, you're looking at what he delivered. 195 carries, 905 yards and nine TDs when he was with the Chargers.
22:51And then he backed that up in 2025, 153 carries, the 70, 72 yards and four scores last year.
22:57You know, he is still as a career back averaging 5.2 yards per carry.
23:01And I just look at what he's able to produce again weeks one through 10 last season, 16.4 touches, 80 yards a game.
23:08You know, he was on pace and I know it wasn't going to hold up, but for 1300 rushing yards, you know,
23:14he was also last year, the third most explosive run rate back and eighth in missed tackle rate.
23:20So he's still got juice for a guy who's been around that long.
23:23So I look at those metrics and just think there is a player here in a situation with a good offensive line,
23:30with a good play caller who knows how to utilize him where we've seen production before.
23:35And again, I just look at his value and the yes, it comes with risk and that's why he's priced the way he is.
23:42But you know, you're picking a player in the in sort of the 90 overall, you're picking him around RB 29, RB 30.
23:49And I think you've got a genuine starter who will get you off to a good start.
23:54And those guys are definitely significantly underrated because back end of the season, you can pick up a wave of wire darling
24:00if the production drops off, if Coleman comes along.
24:03But I think take, take the value now, get yourself off to a good start and then just see where it goes.
24:10Because if he's continuing to produce, he's still going to be in this roster.
24:14It's just the injuries, the probably the bigger concern for me than it is for Coleman.
24:19All right. Let's talk about Makai Lemon, Tom, because I know that's the one that you have circled and I have circled too.
24:25I've been very upfront about my thoughts on Makai Lemon going into this year.
24:30It's not a knock on Devonta Smith. It's an investment on Makai Lemon.
24:34That's what I keep saying to everybody. It's I just, it's not a, what is it?
24:38It's not a no, but it's a yes. And that's how I feel about him.
24:43So talk to me about Makai Lemon and where his upside might be for him.
24:47He is a rookie, but we've seen rookie wide receivers time and time again in the right scenario, come in and be incredibly productive right away.
24:55Yeah, exactly. And typically first round, first round wide receivers tend to be a fairly good bet in fantasy football.
25:01Yes. You're going to get guys like Matthew golden every now and again, but there was plenty of holes that you could
25:08poke in Matthew golden as a prospect. Like Makai Lemon, he wasn't necessarily in the conversation to go top five, top six,
25:14like some of the guys that we saw up there, but for a good bit of a draft process, he was definitely being held very highly.
25:22And like yourself, Joe, I'm betting on the Eagles offense in general to take a step forward.
25:27I'm betting on their offense in general to be much better this year.
25:31I've got to shout out Jake Seeley, who on numerous shows this year has talked about how Jalen Hurts, people say that
25:37he can't throw out of the middle of the field.
25:40And it's not that he can't throw out of the middle of the field.
25:44It's just, he hasn't been asked to do it very much.
25:4885th out of 88 eligible quarterbacks in percent of throws between the numbers below 15 air yards over the last five years.
25:54So yeah, it's not often, but when he does, he has the fourth lowest off target rate on these passes, the highest
26:01touchdown per attempt rating and ranks eighth in completion rate to those areas.
26:05Now you take the new offensive coordinator and it's clear that they're pushing towards making Jalen Hurts throw in ways that he's
26:11not done a lot of in the past. And Eli Stowers as well.
26:15These are two guys who are going to work the middle of the field and that short distance really well.
26:21Mekhi Lemon's so quick, really gives defenders troubles and he can get open with ease, which I think is always important when
26:28you have these kind of dual threat quarterbacks. You want the players who can create when plays break down.
26:33And he, to me, when you watch a tape is absolutely that person.
26:37And I don't necessarily believe that he's going to be a top 20 wide receiver necessarily, but getting him all the way
26:44down like ECR of 93, I think I've got him 82nd overall.
26:47Yeah. Murph, Devonta Smith at his ADP or Makai Lemon at his, what do you prefer?
26:52It's easily Makai Lemon. What I would say with a bit of a buyer's beware, I think it's going to be a slow start for Makai Lemon.
27:00I think that if you're drafting him, especially with where you're drafting him, you've got that luxury at the price to sit
27:07and hold and wait for it to happen. I don't think you're going to see, you know, I could be wrong here.
27:13I don't think you're going to see a big score in week one, week two.
27:18But I think as Tom is saying with this offense, they are on their fifth offensive coordinator in five years.
27:24It is going to look a bit funky for a couple of weeks as they're settling in and this, they're trying to get things right.
27:31This is a whole new look offense. So don't be surprised if it's a slow start.
27:36If you're going to draft Makai Lemon, you're going to have to do it.
27:40And you've got the price to the luxury to do this, to just sit and wait.
27:45Because I think, especially as you're looking at the back half of the season, the schedule opens up quite nicely for them.
27:51They do have at this point in time, the easiest for wide receiver fantasy football strength of schedule.
27:57Now, obviously no games are played, but if you look at total points of last season, their schedule allows for the most
28:03fantasy points allowed to fantasy wide receivers last year in scoring.
28:07So they're especially towards the back end of the season fantasy playoffs.
28:10That schedule looks pretty juicy at this point. And we don't know enough with the data yet for him to have a
28:17really big end of season, mid end of season.
28:19All right. Let's move on to another wide receiver and an offense that's remade a bit.
28:24Same quarterback, new head coach, new OC and a new wide receiver.
28:28Michael Pittman shows up in Pittsburgh. So obviously there's limitations with Aaron Rodgers skill set.
28:32We know that Murph, but it feels like if Pittman gets off to that right start and they craft his role correctly,
28:39that there is a path there for him, you know, maybe not Jeremy Bernard.
28:43Maybe it is Michael Pittman, who is that guy that is kind of the beneficiary of those shorter intermediate targets.
28:49It seemed to be kind of where Aaron Rodgers lives at this point in his career.
28:54Yeah. And I think that's exactly it. And you're getting a target hog at wide receiver 41.
28:59And again, you look at the value, you look at the contract, you look at how much he was paid.
29:05This is telling you where they significantly value Michael Pittman as an organization, as a franchise.
29:10And now people are going to laugh at me because I've touted Michael Pittman for years.
29:14For me, I still feel he's one of the league's most underrated wide receivers in terms of skill set, in terms of the routes that he runs.
29:22And yes, last season wasn't particularly pretty in an offense that was all set up for him, especially in that Shane Steichen offense.
29:29But there is an easy path right now to connect Michael Pittman to 140 targets this year.
29:34And you telling me you can get a player who has a pathway to 140 targets and you can get him at wide receiver 41.
29:42Sign me up to the value. It's there. It's screaming, especially in the PPR league.
29:46I think there's going to be some problems with this offense for sure.
29:50I don't think he's going to get in the box too many times, but I do think that when you're looking at
29:57the money paid, you're looking at his skill set in particular with that target volume.
30:01I think he's going to massively outperform that wide receiver 41 placing.
30:05And I think you're looking at a player who will be sort of the bottom fringes of wide receiver two.
30:11But I think it just conflicts volume as well.
30:13I think to me, Pittman's most potential appeal is in the full PPR because I still think very much of the Steelers offense currently constituted.
30:21So that's my own problems that I'll have to deal with this offseason.
30:25But in full PPR, we don't care where you just want volume.
30:28You know, if he feels like the kind of guy that could have a lot of days where he's got like eight
30:35catches, but for 66 yards, you know what I mean?
30:38Like that kind of stuff where it's going to get you some fancy points, but maybe not have like some of those
30:44big days unless he has a touchdown attached to it.
30:47But in PPR leagues, again, some valuable continuity there on a weekly basis.
30:51And when he does have the touchdowns, those will be some good weeks.
30:55Let's talk about the other end of the Colts situation.
30:58So we talked about Alec Pierce. But Tom, you have some thoughts on Josh Downs at ECR 113 that you want everybody to know about.
31:06I mean, Josh Downs has been one of the easiest buyers of the offseason ever since that move for Michael Pittman.
31:12And even before then, I remember writing articles back in February before free agency opened up saying one of Michael Pittman or
31:18Alec Pierce is most likely not going to be on this team this year, which opens up a role for Josh Downs in 2026.
31:26Everybody pushed back. Everybody says yes, but he doesn't play outside.
31:29What happens? We get through mini camp OTAs and all the reports are that they're looking for ways to get him involved outside.
31:36You look at what he's done for this team over the last couple of years.
31:40Yes, it's not been insane volume, but the distance between him and the wide receiver three on this team is massive.
31:46Like Ashton Doolin is the wide receiver three. I don't think anybody even holds Ashton Doolin in like dynasty leagues these days because it's just non-existent.
31:54And for Josh Downs' part last year, yeah, he only played 62% of snaps, which you had Pittman and Pierce both above 80%.
32:01But when he was on the field, he was still drawing targets at a really solid rate.
32:06He had a 0.24 targets per route run, which was the highest of any player on the Colts.
32:11And even what was perceived as a down year for him, he had 84 targets.
32:16Like now you remove Michael Pittman from the offense, opens up a lot more targets.
32:20Yes, some are going to go to Tyler Warren, who you'd expect to take a second year jump.
32:26Yes, it's possible that this offense in general just isn't as fruitful as last year.
32:30But the areas we feel that Josh Downs wins in, I think, are completely going to work very well without Michael Pittman there.
32:37And the only real concern is whether Keenan Allen ends up signing there because it has been touted a little bit.
32:43But I'm not going to go through June, July, avoiding Josh Downs because Keenan Allen might sign and then regretting it if he doesn't.
32:50Yeah, we're going to keep a close eye on that Keenan Allen signing and the impact he's going to have.
32:56I mean, I think the commanders might be thinking about him too after that latest Brandon Ayuk post.
33:02Every time Brandon Ayuk posts, I feel like he's putting money into the pocket potentially of Keenan Allen from Washington.
33:08Either that or Stephon Diggs. Somebody. Yeah, well, Stephon Diggs.
33:11I mean, talk about choosing your poison between those two guys.
33:14I love it. Good luck, Washington. Good luck. All right.
33:17Next up here are some of the late round guys, the deep dart throws that have some high ceiling.
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34:37All right. Let's talk about some of the guys that are deeper down here.
34:41Tom, this is an interesting one. It's Tyler Algier, who's kind of a spoiler at ECR 133.
34:46We wanted nice things in B. John Robbins' rookie season.
34:49Tyler Algier kind of spoiled him a little bit.
34:52Are we in for another repeat of that from a couple years ago, Tom?
34:56Well, that's definitely part of the bet. And I've been in on Tyler Algier for a couple of years now, pretty much going back to his rookie season.
35:05And my one big hope in free agency was that he would find a spot where it was clear and it would be easy.
35:12Then you fast forward to the draft and obviously nothing can be easy.
35:16But I don't think that we should assume Tyler Algier can't have good fantasy value or at least really strong contingent value behind Jeremiah Love.
35:23Like Jeremiah Love is a rookie. We've seen so many rookies come in and, you know, struggle at times.
35:29And Algier is like Mr. Reliable. He's had over 650 carries in the NFL.
35:33Never once fumbled. He's a reliable pass catcher. Strong pass protector.
35:36And, I mean, you only need to go back to look at the Falcons to see that they were more than happy
35:43to use him around the goal line. He had 32 red zone touches last year.
35:4743% of the carries inside the five-yard line. And I'm kind of banking on the idea that one of James Conner or
35:54Trey Benson is probably not going to be on this roster come September.
35:58If they are, then this probably looks like a bit of a poor take.
36:02But for now, I think for somebody they saw as a priority in free agency and for a team that is clearly
36:08trying to move away from him, and Pat keeps making this point, but they are not going to throw the ball at
36:15the highest rate in the league like they did last year because they're investing so heavily in the run.
36:21So, yeah, I mean, I'm not ready to give up on Tyler Algier.
36:24All right. Let's go to you, Murph, here for a second for some of your later picks.
36:30Let's start with a quarterback, Daniel Jones, who, again, first 10 weeks of the season, Colts were riding high.
36:35Colts were the number one seed. Daniel Jones was the top five fantasy quarterback.
36:39Everything was going right. Injury happened. Everything fell apart.
36:42So a lot of this is about Daniel Jones health going into this year.
36:46But if he is healthy, there's a lot of reason to be hopeful, especially if you like to take if you're in
36:53a deeper league or you like to take, you know, late round quarterback stabs at a couple guys.
36:58You could take a Daniel Jones. You could take him to leak was you could see what what works certain weeks or in super flex as well.
37:06Daniel Jones's value is going to be suppressed based on that injury and based off the track record of underwhelming at times.
37:13But you still see a high ceiling in Daniel Jones if everything does break right and things are good when it comes to his health.
37:20I mean, absolutely. You're looking at a player that's going off the board at QB 25.
37:25As you just said last year, he was top five fantasy quarterback before the injury.
37:29You know, and this is not necessarily a bet on the player, although the player has always seemed to perform admirably in
37:36fantasy football, but a bet on the Colts offense in general.
37:39Shane Steichen is still for me one of criminally the most criminally underrated head coaches on offensive minds in the NFL.
37:46I look at what this team did last year.
37:48We've talked about it already at length with the wide receivers here, but he completed his you know, he completed almost 70
37:55percent of his passes last year, which was a near career high.
37:58He brings you a nice sort of rushing floor that comes along with him.
38:03You know, you'd expect him to probably pick up if he plays a full 16 game season, well over 300 rushing yards.
38:09And you're just looking at that big play ability.
38:12You've got a nice combination between a big play wide receiver and Alec Pierce.
38:16He's pulling off 21 yards per play. You're talking about Josh Downs, Tyler Warren.
38:20He's got great playmakers there. He's got Jonathan Taylor.
38:23That offense will continue to move the ball efficiently down downstream and will continue to put up points.
38:28So the question and the bet here is how healthy is he?
38:32And I still think that Daniel Jones, you know, Daniel Jones is seen as a bit of a joke to the casual
38:38NFL fan, which does sort of means you can always get him at a bit of a bargain.
38:44But I like the rushing floor, you know, I'm thinking of a player who could easily finish inside the top 10, especially
38:50with that rushing production and that offense if he plays 17 games.
38:54And I'm quite happy to take take the go at QB 25 in the hopes that he does.
38:59Dylan Sampson is another guy you want to highlight, Tom.
39:02And Sampson obviously had a couple moments last year where he flashed.
39:06He seems like a guy in PBR leagues could be a useful running back.
39:10What do you think that Browns running back situation looks like in 2026?
39:14And how can Sampson be the benefit? Well, you look at what Todd Monken did for the last few years in Baltimore
39:20and, you know, any Ravens fan will tell you it was infuriating the way that Derrick Henry was rotated for Justice Hill
39:27so consistently and so consistently in obvious pass catching situations.
39:30Now, Dylan Sampson versus Quinshawn Judkins when it comes to pass catching is just obliterating in every stat.
39:352.0 yards per outrun versus 1.17. 7.13 yards per target versus 5.03.
39:398.21 yards per reception versus 6.58. It's not even remotely close.
39:42And then this is a defense which isn't going to be as strong this year.
39:47The departure of Myles Garrett, loss of Jim Schwartz's defensive coordinator.
39:50They're going to be in situations where they have to pass the ball a lot more.
39:55Last year you'd see the score was kept close so much more.
39:58So they didn't need to force the passes to the running back.
40:02But I think that this year we're going to see much more of that.
40:06They're going to be in pass heavy scripts and that's obviously going to benefit Sampson.
40:10I think in PPR a very easy bet. And then, you know, the contingent upside for the RB2 who the RB1 Quinshawn
40:17Judkins is coming back from a dislocated ankle and a fractured fibula.
40:21We've seen players come back from fractured fibulas before and struggling their first year back.
40:25Mark Andrews, Tony Pollard. Yes, those players were slightly older than Judkins is now.
40:29But I think it's at least a little strange to me that Dylan Sampson is going so dramatically far behind Quinshawn Judkins.
40:36Yeah, that's I think the biggest thing to point out, Tom, is like the gap between the two, especially if an injury should happen, right?
40:43All of a sudden, you know, Sampson could potentially be elevated in a different way, especially in that Todd Monk in offense.
40:50It's been very run heavy throughout his tenure in the NFL.
40:53Last guy to talk about here is another rookie.
40:56Let's talk about Kenyon Sadiq of the New York Jets.
40:59Now, Murph is a renaissance, a tight end. So many good guys this year.
41:03The top eight are stunning. You can make a case for any of them somehow finding their way to the top one or two.
41:10But Kenyon Sadiq is a guy that you want to point out there.
41:14So let's talk about that because it's tough sometimes to get excited about New York Jets, especially with Geno Smith running an offense.
41:21So why can Kenyon Sadiq actually be a surprise for folks?
41:24I mean, first of all, if you didn't watch him in college, go and find some highlights of him at Oregon.
41:30Oh, incredibly talented. Yeah. You're talking about a guy at the Combine who absolutely blistered the tight end record, ran a 4-3-9 on a 241-pound frame.
41:38His broad jump, his contested catch rate. I think for me where he needs very, very little introduction to the NFL is
41:45how he dominates and finds space in zone coverage.
41:47That for me is a real standout point. He's going to face a lot of zone, especially in that AFC East.
41:54I look at everything he's going to produce. He's going to get open.
41:57He's going to get open a lot. You can line him up absolutely anywhere.
42:02You want to play him in the slot. You want to play him in line.
42:06You want to play him up the middle, flex wide, whichever way you want to look at him.
42:11He's got every route in his bag. He's got every opportunity to win early.
42:16Now, with the Jets, we know they're going to get a little bit more aggressive this year.
42:21Yes, it's not exciting to be behind Gino, but Gino had a good year before last season in Seattle.
42:26You're going to look at that coaching. There is some good weapons there that he can aim at.
42:32You're looking at Garrett Wilson there. You're looking at they've invested in the wide receiver position and Omar Cooper, who again is a talented player.
42:39You've got now Sadiq there. You have got options.
42:42You've got Brees Hall there. This offense is not a terrible offense.
42:45It just people are dinged after the Gino experience last year and who can blame them because it was pretty bad in Oakland.
42:52But I think he will see. Listen, he's not the most exciting quarterback, but he is efficient and he can deliver some results.
42:59And I think Sadiq has got to have those opportunities, especially over the middle, to really get open and to make some explosive plays.
43:06Again, he's a player that you're going to draft.
43:09It's not going to start particularly well and particularly early, but I think he is a player who is going to dominate
43:16as the season gets on and he gets bigger and better and he's going to earn more and more touches in this offense.
43:22So when you're thinking about down the stretch and getting yourself a value that everyone's going to run to the wave of
43:29wires for, don't wait for the wave of wires.
43:32Pick him up in your last round. He's going to be available for you and you'll be happy that you've stashed him
43:38a few weeks because you'll see the production. Yeah.
43:41One of the things I always like to do, Murph, in all my drafts too, is the drafts are about acquiring talent on your roster.
43:48So if you think Sadiq is a talent, even though you have a Tucker Craft, we're telling you to go draft him.
43:55Sadiq then becomes an interesting trade ship at some point.
43:58Value is still there, even if you already have that spot filled with somebody that might be better.
44:03It doesn't mean that that player doesn't have value on your roster, but more importantly, on someone else's roster too, when you
44:10go ahead and make a deal like that. So always keep that in mind, everybody.
44:14The draft is for acquiring talent. It's not for just, you know, S's and G's.
44:19Continue to acquire talent, even if you think, oh, I'm really good at quarterback.
44:23I'm really good at wide receiver. Everybody thinks they're really good at everything until injuries happen and the NFL season happens.
44:29All right. And one of the things you need to do is make sure you use the tools of fantasy pros as well.
44:36Tools like the cheat sheet creator where you build your custom rankings and you can go check it out at fantasy pros
44:43dot com slash sheet or download the fantasy pros app.
44:46Sync your leaks for free. Don't be a tool.
44:48Use the tools and take some of this advice from these two gentlemen to get some of these players with high ceiling for you.
44:55Now, I'm very appreciative that everybody joined us. I know it is evening where you are, gentlemen.
45:01So I will bid you adieu and a good night.
45:03I've still got a football tournament to coach. It's 100 degrees here.
45:07We're playing indoor. Or that air conditioning better be working in that facility.
45:11I can tell you right now we go to that bubble and it better not be 110 inside that bubble.
45:17I'm hoping not. But this was a hot show.
45:20Gentlemen, great to see you. Check out Five Yard Rush podcast as well.
45:23If you've never listened to it, you absolutely should.
45:26And of course, check out all Tom's work here on fantasy pros, especially those best ball streams that here and Erickson are doing.
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45:42That'll do it for us. But the story of the game goes on.
45:46For Tom and Murph, I'm Joey P. We will see you next time, kids.
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