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0:10Oh! Caleb Williams is back! It's mid-October. Halloween is in 12 days.
0:14The Browns are 4-2. The Rams are 2-4. What a league, Trevor.
0:18What a league. The Cardinals win it! And the Rams drop to 2-4.
0:22Wow! We have a lot to talk about on today's show.
0:25First things first, we had a couple star players returning to the lineup this week.
0:30Caleb's back. A.J. Brown's back. Fairly mixed results, I would say.
0:33Let's start off with Caleb. He started this game against Atlanta 10-for-10.
0:37Over 12 yards per attempt. Touchdown. Damn near perfect passer rating.
0:40Ended up 30-of-36 on the game. I was a little bit worried about his mobility, right?
0:45How elusive is he going to be compared to what we're used to with Caleb Williams just getting out of sacks.
0:52And I didn't really notice a difference. He looks completely back.
0:55Yeah. Caleb was awesome in this game. Now, it wasn't the most challenging Caleb Williams script he's ever had to go up against.
1:02And certainly, if we don't go back to the USC days where his defense was giving up basically 50 a game and
1:09he had to try to outscore them. But no passes in this game over 20 air yards.
1:143.6 air yards per attempt, which is the second fewest in a game in his career.
1:19There's also only his third game in his NFL career without a deep pass of 20 or more air yards.
1:25Forget 20 yards down the field. 27 of his 36 attempts were below 10 air yards.
1:30So, the script wasn't super difficult for Caleb today, but he looked really good.
1:35Especially on those opening drives, like you mentioned, how he started this game.
1:39He looked very confident. The zip was still there.
1:41Because, like, with lower body injuries with the quarterback, of course, you know, mobility is the thing that comes to your mind first.
1:48But so is power. You know, when you're setting up to throw, your base is your power.
1:54And if you have any sort of lower body injury, even like a hamstring injury, and you're just a little bit light
2:01on wherever that injury is, sometimes that can affect, you know, how fast the ball comes out of your hand, how much power you can generate.
2:09I didn't see any limitations at all from Caleb Williams in this game.
2:13And so, I think that it also went to the fact that they had 29 design carries to running backs in this game.
2:20I mean, Chicago, for as much as people want it to just be the Ben Johnson-Caleb Williams show, like, they're gonna run the dang ball.
2:27And it just gets a lot easier to run the ball when you have Caleb Williams as your quarterback.
2:33Because you just never know what kind of magic that he is gonna pull out of hat as well.
2:39So, great game from Caleb Williams. Love to see it.
2:42He's one of those talented players in the league.
2:45And so, it was great to see him back on the field playing really well right away.
2:50And it's the machine-like efficiency of this offense when they have their quarterback, when they have their offensive line, when they have their run game.
2:58Like, that's what's really impressive to me. He had 24 clean pockets in this game, which the Falcons' pass rush was getting after it this season.
3:06He had 24 clean pockets. And he went 24 of 24 for 248 yards in this game from a clean pocket.
3:12His 24 attempts are the most without an incompletion from a clean pocket in a game since at least 2018.
3:18Why since 2018? That's as far back as the stat goes.
3:22So, as far as we're concerned, when NextGenStats is measuring your efficiency from a clean pocket, this was the best game NextGenStats has ever measured.
3:30They were in control from the start. Even though technically it ended up fairly close on the scoreboard, I never really felt
3:36like the Falcons were a threat to win this game.
3:39And it's just because of how efficient this offense was.
3:43And it's worth pointing out, who thought that this was gonna be what Caleb was going to be in the NFL?
3:49Probably not a lot of people. This super efficient passer?
3:52Throwing wide open his burden. Holds on among the big hit.
3:55The people who looked at who Caleb Williams was, even at his best when he was at USC, he was gonna land
4:02probably somewhere on the Jameis Winston to Josh Allen spectrum of how you play the quarterback position.
4:08If it was on the good end, obviously it would have been a lot closer to sort of what we see from
4:14Josh Allen week in and week out, which, my goodness, what Josh Allen was able to do this past week, which I
4:21feel like we could say every single week, or Jameis, which I know we'll touch on the Giants a little bit later.
4:28I think a lot of people thought that's the type of quarterback that Caleb Williams is going to be.
4:34This is legitimate growth. This is maturation of how talented he is and how good he could be.
4:39I think what I've seen from today, just eliminating the catastrophic plays.
4:43He's never been a big turnover guy, but in that situation, you know the play's over, get out of your hands, so
4:50it doesn't, third and six is long enough. You don't want to go third and 10, third and 11.
4:56Smart football. To see this game one from him coming back from injury, dude, it's just, you gotta feel great about this.
5:02If you're a Bears fan, look, look closer than what they wanted at the end of this one.
5:08But I think overall, you gotta feel good about this one.
5:11If you're a Bears fan. And then on the other side of the coin, AJ Brown, he doesn't look back like just
5:18watching him play, let alone the stat line. The stat line wasn't great.
5:22You know, he's had a pretty high drop rate this year, but his calling card was, Hey, I'm the big, strong vertical threat.
5:29That is way faster than I have any right to be at 225, 230 pounds.
5:34Like I can still stack on a corner and get vertical.
5:37And I'm going to catch everything thrown my way.
5:40He's doing neither of those. And I think the ankle really is slowing him down.
5:45I kind of take out week one. Cause he got hurt early in that one.
5:49But if you're looking at his average speed on vertical routes in this game, his average speed on vertical routes was 13.87 miles per hour.
5:57If you're going back to 2025, his average speed on vertical routes was about 15 and a half miles per hour.
6:03And the year before that 15 and a half miles per hour.
6:07So that's a significant decline in speed. And when your whole thing is I'm bigger than you, I'm faster than you.
6:14I'm going to moss you. Anytime you throw me a 50, 50 ball.
6:18If you take away one of those elements, let alone two of those elements, then it's like, all right, well, what are you then?
6:25I'm not sure right now. They taking a shot.
6:28Incomplete. Right through the wickets of AJ Brown. You think that, that this is one that you see AJ Brown make all the time.
6:35Surprising that he can't track that football. I think a healthy AJ Brown obviously would be helping this offense a lot.
6:42He's not healthy right now. And so I just, you're giving a guy routes that is not nearly what we expected.
6:48And I'm, I'm not sure if he's helping more than hurting.
6:51Yeah. I mean, when you look at his EPA per target from 2022 to 2024, which is when he was absolutely cooking
6:58with the Eagles, it was plus 0.12. 2025 last year, it was less than half of that.
7:04It was 0.05. And then this year it's zero.
7:06It's negative 0.15. So this is the first year in a long time that AJ Brown has a negative EPA per target on what he is doing.
7:15He is mainly a contested catch receiver. So if you're dropping the footballs that are coming anywhere close to your hand, you
7:21start really, really losing your calling card. And unfortunately for him, I mean, it was just a terrible day.
7:27Not only were there touchdowns that he dropped in this game, dude, he dropped the, the onside kick.
7:33He's on the onside kick hands team for this exact reason, for the ball to hit his hands and for him to come away with it.
7:41And he just didn't. So it's worth monitoring. But of course, like if you're a Patriots fan, you still feel pretty good
7:48about it because you won this game. And Drake may look great without AJ Brown looking fantastic.
7:53So yeah, definitely the other side of the coin from the way that we talked about Caleb Williams.
7:58But obviously if you're a Patriots fan, it's great to know that you don't quote unquote need him to always win these games.
8:05Totally forgot to mention this, by the way, speaking of guys who came back for the bears this week and played out
8:12of their mind, Kyler Gordon had eight pass rush snaps in this game, five pressures, all of them under two and a
8:19half seconds, three sacks, three tackles for loss, two quarterback hits, multiple force fumbles.
8:23He's the only DB in the last 40 years to have three plus sacks and multiple force fumbles in the same game.
8:30He is tied for the most sacks in a game for any DB.
8:34Since they started recording the sack stat in 1982, this was an all time pass rush performance by a defensive back.
8:41And the amount of impact plays that he was making, I mean, this, this looked like old Kyler Gordon.
8:46Like I didn't expect him to look like that immediately.
8:50Like he didn't miss a beat. Looking like young Rondé Barber out there with all the pass rush production from the cornerback position.
8:57No, he was, he was awesome and utilized in exactly the right ways.
9:01It's so cool. When a defensive coordinator has the exact game plan to maximize a certain player in his skillset.
9:07And it actually comes to fruition. And that's, that's exactly what happened with Kyler Gordon.
9:11It was great to see. Another big play from this bears defense is Kyler Gordon down there around the ball again.
9:18All right, Trev, let's talk about the upset of the century of the week.
9:22The Cardinals went down to SoFi again for the second time.
9:26Yeah. Thank you. Second time this year. His sixth field goal of the afternoon, the Cardinals win it.
9:31Their second win of the season, both here at SoFi.
9:34They're actually undefeated in SoFi by the way, this season.
9:37What if they have a better record in SoFi than at home this season?
9:42What happens then? What do we do? What do we do with that point?
9:46Their special teams, EPA per play in that stadium has to be absurd because they had six field goals in this game.
9:53They had like a blocked punt against the charge.
9:55Like for whatever reason, when this special teams unit gets into the hallowed grounds of SoFi stadium, they play out of their gourd.
10:03This was an unbelievable game by the Cardinals, terrible game by the Rams for a bunch of reasons.
10:08I think some coaching decisions, which we'll get into were pretty bad.
10:12I think the offense played poorly. I think the defense held on as long as they could, but you know, six field
10:19goals, they couldn't keep them out of field goal range, just a complete collapse by the Rams.
10:24But I do want to give credit to the Cardinals.
10:27What a game by Arizona and brand new coach, Michael floor.
10:30Yeah. And you know who else I want to give credit to their linebacker, Mack Wilson, senior.
10:36You know why? Cause over the summer, when miles Garrett was traded to the Rams, he was quoted saying, saying, how do you feel about miles?
10:44They got to deal with us. At the end of the day, they got to deal with us.
10:49The quote tweets that flew off that bad boy for a statement like that.
10:53And here we are. The Cardinals end up defeating the Los Angeles Rams in their house.
10:58It's a shout out to the Cardinals. And I think a team where the record was one of the lower records in the league, obviously.
11:06And I think there were a lot of people that thought that the Arizona Cardinals were going to be a team that
11:13was going to be in very close contention for the number one overall pick.
11:17And who knows how this season is going to go.
11:20Maybe it ends up that way. But I always felt that, especially looking at this offense, how it was going to give them a chance every single week.
11:29Now, funny enough, this wasn't the game where the offense scored 30, 33, 37, whatever the point total was, it was lower.
11:36And it was actually the defense that showed up here.
11:39And so I want to make sure that we're given the Cardinals credit here first.
11:43But at the same time, this is a major stumbling now for the Rams.
11:48This is not jet lag off the Australia game.
11:50This is not, oh, we had a couple of guys, you know, hurt.
11:54Oh, poking to cool wasn't in the lineup and things like that.
11:58This is now you're running out of excuses type of thing.
12:02And I think that you kind of feel that everywhere with this team.
12:06And sure, they don't have miles Garrett yet, but there's no way that I'm going to let anybody get away with the statement.
12:13Yeah, but the Rams don't have miles Garrett yet.
12:15Shut up. It's the Rams. This was, this was absolutely a right there roster with the Seattle Seahawks.
12:21And whoever wins that game in the playoffs probably ends up winning the Super Bowl.
12:26So yeah, miles Garrett was supposed to take them over the top.
12:29But Brett, I'm going to repeat something that I've talked about for multiple weeks now on this podcast, that it just looks so difficult for the Rams.
12:38Every single week, it looks so difficult. I mentioned, I can't remember if it was last week or the week before, that
12:44the Rams had the lowest average separation with their wide receivers of any team in the NFL last year, of any team in the NFL this year.
12:53And both of those averages were right around 3.0 and 3.1 average of separation for their wide receivers.
12:58Brett, guess what it was this game? 2.9. It was less.
13:02Everything looks so difficult. This entire offense to me is Puka.
13:05Please save us. Now, something else that I think is definitely worth noting here is Matthew Stafford.
13:10Last year, he had both good and bad under pressure.
13:13Brett, this year, it's only the bad. We don't even have the good.
13:17Oh, now Stafford goes down, lost the football. You saw the Cardinals, 41.7% blitz rate this week against the Rams.
13:24If you look at their weeks one through five, their blitz rate was 25.2.
13:28So you go from 25.2 to 41.7. Why are you doing that?
13:32Because Stafford has not been able to handle the blitz this year because their only get out of jail card is Puka Nakua.
13:39If you pressure Matthew Stafford, and if you have a game plan to get close coverage or even like cap coverage on Puka Nakua, what more are they?
13:47What answers do they have for you? And I think that that's where a lot of the frustration comes from for a
13:54team that you hear McVay talk in the post, the post game press conference about the self-inflicted, you know, turnovers or penalties
14:01or special teams or whatever it is. Obviously no coach wants to see that, but I think certainly we didn't think the
14:08Rams margin for error was this thin, where if you have a couple of those, that's it.
14:13All of a sudden you're losing football games when maybe you shouldn't.
14:17To me, this is like when a pitcher that throws 104 has no ability to locate the ball.
14:22And if you have that much gas, but you can't locate it, what else do you have?
14:27If you're looking at the Rams fastball offensively, it was their ability to throw out a heavier personnel groupings.
14:33That's what they did all last year. It's what they're trying to do a lot this year.
14:38And specifically today, it did not work. If you're looking at 12 and 13 personnel groupings, they passed out of that grouping 56% of the time.
14:46That's a lot. Even last year where they were one of the top teams in terms of passing out of heavier personnel
14:53groupings, they did it 40% of the times last year.
14:5656% is insanity. And they were doing that because the Cardinals were matching base into these heavier personnel groupings.
15:0284% of the time, they weren't playing nickel into it.
15:05They were playing base into it. And so the Rams were like, good, that's what we want.
15:11We're going to throw in your linebackers and safeties.
15:13And the Cardinals still stopped it anyway. That was the remarkable thing.
15:17If you're looking at matching base against these heavier personnel groupings, they allowed 3.9 yards per play.
15:22That is awful. And I think if you're looking at how, you know, the downstream effect of that, okay, we don't get
15:29our fastball because we're not throwing the ball well out of heavier personnel groupings.
15:33We had a 42.9% success rate today. Last year, it was 56.6%.
15:37That is a massive decrease in terms of success rate from big boy personnel groupings.
15:42So we're not doing that well, which means we're in, you know, second and forever, third and forever.
15:47And now we're going into 11 personnel grouping. Our receivers aren't separating like we want to, not to mention the Cardinals due to injury at safety.
15:55Their nickel personnel grouping was four corners. So nobody can separate because we're not running routes against safeties.
16:01We're running routes against corners. Garrett Williams was playing free safety for this team and he's a corner.
16:06Yes. Yeah. So it was just this, this confluence of events that, that weirdly made the Cardinals the perfect matchup defensively against this Rams offense.
16:14And I think the most crucial play that nobody is talking about, this was a tackle for loss on a second and
16:21short that swung the win probability by 9% in favor of the Cardinals in this game, which is unbelievable that a TFL
16:28has that kind of effect on win probability, but it was that good.
16:32So I'm going to walk you through this fourth quarter, 437 left in the game.
16:36Rams are driving. They're in Arizona territory. It's a very tight game.
16:40They're down by six, but okay. So it's second and short.
16:43We have four corners on the field again for nickel for Arizona.
16:47Buddha is the only safety. He's kind of creeping towards this line of scrimmage.
16:51And as soon as he sees Puka Nakua motion into the backfield and do the normal Puka thing where he's looking like
16:58he's going to be an insert blocker, Buddha Baker just triggers because he knows it's probably going to be a man blocking
17:05scheme with Puka as the insert, which means there's going to be double teams firing off the ball.
17:10So if he times it well, he can sneak in between these double teams, get in the backfield, get a TFL, and
17:17then set up an even longer third down. And that's exactly what happens.
17:21So he gets a two yard TFL on this because he's Buddha Baker and he's great at playing the run from depth
17:28as the only safety that's even on the field.
17:31That sets up a third and five, which is a two yard catch by Puka.
17:35And then you get a penalty and then it's fourth and eight, right?
17:39And they call a screen for some reason on fourth and eight.
17:43Sean, come on, come on, man. And then after that, the Cardinals are in control.
17:48It's three minutes left in the game. They have a six point lead.
17:52So that it, you know, the Rams ended up scoring.
17:55Then the Cardinals went down and kicked another field goal.
17:58But the fact that they were able to stop that drive, then and there bled enough time off the clock where it
18:05limited the total number of possessions left in the game and set the Cardinals up to be the last ones with the ball.
18:12That's, that's a Buddha Baker game winner right there.
18:15Game winning TFL, so to speak. So just a, a remarkable day by this Cardinals defense.
18:19They, they held up in base. They held up in nickel, which like it's just unreal.
18:24Absolutely unreal by them. Great day by Rallis. Great day by Buddha.
18:28Great day by everybody. Like I just, I can't praise them enough for this.
18:32The defense of the Cardinals was incredible. They're the story of the day.
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20:05Let's move on. Let's talk about the London game.
20:08Let's talk about your Houston Texans. Get the dub against Jacksonville.
20:11Funny, Jacksonville playing in London two weeks in a row.
20:14And for the second week, it comes down to a buzzer beater field goal.
20:18You know, last week, obviously, they were on the great end of a Cam Little buzzer beater field goal.
20:24And then this week, they were not on the fun end of it.
20:28But if you're a Houston Texans fan, man, you got to feel alive right now.
20:33Not just because of that game, but because you are quite literally still alive in that division.
20:38You hold all the cards now at this point where, Brad, I don't know if you've seen the next five games for the Houston Texans.
20:46But it's pretty favorable because they're sitting here at 2-4.
20:492-4, yeah. They play the Giants next week. Then they have a bye.
20:53And that it is at the Chargers, at the Browns, versus the Colts.
20:57Winnable games all around. And you hold a game now on Jacksonville when it comes to that tiebreaker, if it gets to
21:04that point at the end of the season. And the next Texans-Jacksonville game is in Houston.
21:09So they get to host the next one. So you feel pretty good if you're a Texans fan.
21:14But what's the big takeaway for you here in this game?
21:18You want to talk Texans? You want to talk Jags here?
21:21I think we could talk a little bit of both.
21:24I mean, this was a great football game. It was extremely entertaining.
21:28I'm West Coast, so it was 6.30 a.m. So I got my morning coffee, got my coffee cake and my eggs.
21:34And, you know, watching the Texans and specifically C.J.
21:37Stroud play out of his mind. I thought this was such a fun back and forth.
21:42You had really good quarterback play on both sides.
21:45I think, you know, Stroud was on another level.
21:48But Trevor still had plenty of great throws throughout this game.
21:51He was really aggressive. He was working the intermediate middle of the field.
21:55And he kind of had to go toe-to-toe with Stroud, who was just unbelievable as far as his efficiency.
22:01His EPA per dropback was plus .31. And that's really just because of the end zone interception by Travis Hunter.
22:07But that was his second best EPA per dropback this season.
22:10His completion percentage over expected was plus 12.8%, fourth highest of his career.
22:14He was absolutely incredible. Over 10 yards, 7 of 10 for 164, a touchdown and that pick.
22:20Plus 26.7% completion percentage over expected on throws over 10 yards.
22:23He was spectacular against the Blitz. That, to me, was so validating, relieving, a combination of those two things.
22:29Because we knew it was still in there from his rookie year.
22:33He kind of wandered through the wilderness in 2025.
22:35But we knew these kinds of throws were still in there.
22:39And to see them happen week after week after week, especially in a big spot.
22:43Have to win this game. Like, cannot lay an egg in this game.
22:47Have to be your best. And he was his best.
22:50To me, as a Texans fan, I just felt such a sigh of relief.
22:55Oh, thank God. We have a quarterback. He's for real.
22:58He's still for real. He's still that guy. Like, we needed him to play his best and he did it.
23:04Thank God we have one of those kind of quarterbacks.
23:07So, I felt immense gratitude for that. That we have a future still.
23:11But even then, you know, Jax fans, I know they're pissed about how this game ended.
23:16But I wouldn't feel any less confident about my ability to win the AFC South of Oz Jags fans either.
23:22Like, it's just one of those, like, ah, tip your cap.
23:26CJ played out of his mind. But, like, I don't think the Jags played poorly in this by any stretch.
23:32No, I don't either. And really quick, just going back to the CJ Stroud thing.
23:36Like, it's been very frustrating for Texas fans. There's no doubt about it.
23:40Because Stroud's been unbelievable. And the defense has been less than stellar.
23:44I think it's a way to put it kindly.
23:47And the defense was supposed to be the part of the team that carried you.
23:51But, I think if you sat down and asked every Texans fan, which one would you rather have to start a struggling
23:58season, knowing there's a chance that it all kind of turns around for you in the second half of the season?
24:05Would you rather have your defense be elite and Stroud still be bad?
24:09Or would you rather have Stroud kind of looking elite and the defense is a lot worse than you thought it was going to be?
24:16You would, I think everybody would understandably pick the Stroud part of that.
24:20You want Stroud to be the one to look good, especially because defense is often a rollercoaster ride up and down.
24:27Like, even if you have the same players, year to year, it's never the same.
24:31So, there is a much easier path to redemption for the defense to turn around in the second half of the season
24:38when you know that CJ Stroud is playing the way that he is.
24:42So, I think that, again, as frustrating as it is, I think everybody would take the way that it has played out.
24:49If it's got to be frustrating, this is the way that you would want for it to be.
24:55If you're Jacksonville now, let's go to Jacksonville really quick.
24:58I think that the frustrating part is you weren't really able to generate a lot of pressure on the pocket the way
25:04that you thought you would have been able to against what has been a struggling Houston offensive line.
25:10Now, Houston's offensive line has struggled more as run blockers than they have pass protectors, but still, you would like to see
25:17your defensive line for Jacksonville, especially Trayvon Walker, Josh Hines Allen, be able to generate a lot more pressures than they did in this game.
25:25All that to say, I do think that you're correct where you watch Jacksonville play and you go, this is still a really good football team.
25:33And the thing that really stands out to me is Travis Hunter and everything that was Travis Hunter in this game because,
25:39you know, going into this season, I think it was fair and we heard a lot of these conversations of, hey, you know, was the trade worth it?
25:48What do you think about this player? And I think a lot of us were forced to answer and ask the question,
25:55if Travis Hunter is only a corner, how do you feel about the trade, right?
25:59I think that we even talked about that here on this show.
26:03Boy, does it feel good to no longer have to think that way after watching him over the last couple of weeks
26:10because he plays the most offensive snaps as a Jag this season.
26:14He has a interception on defense. He has a touchdown on offense, but Brett, it's more than that.
26:19It's how he looks. It's the eye test. It's watching him.
26:22It is the confidence in which he is playing whenever he steps on the field, whether it is on offense or on defense.
26:30He is, I mean, dude, the interception in the end zone, the speed at which he recovers when the receiver breaks on
26:36his route to the opposite direction was unbelievable. He was playing at the speed versus the rest of the players, like how
26:43fast he was running versus everybody else on the field.
26:46It looked like the Colorado tape. And it's so rare that you get a player who is able to make it look
26:53easy in college and then also at times can make it look easy in the NFL.
26:58And then when you watch him on offense, brother, he ran a Texas route.
27:02I mean, Liam Cohen is absolutely diabolical for that touchdown to Travis Hunter.
27:06He's running a Texas route. He puts Travis Hunter in the backfield.
27:10Forget about receiver. Forget about him moonlighting as a wide receiver.
27:13They made him his offensive weapon. He's moonlighting as an offensive weapon.
27:17They put him in the backfield. They took a look at the poor linebacker on the other side of the Lions Crimmage
27:24and said, I'm sorry it had to be you, buddy.
27:27And they send Travis Hunter in motion on a Texas route that no linebacker outside of maybe Fred Warner himself would have a chance in hell at stopping.
27:35And it's just, that's the beauty of Travis Hunter.
27:38And I love that we don't have to ask these questions anymore that are, well, if he's just a corner, how valuable is he?
27:46Because now we get to continue the conversation of, my goodness, how valuable is this player and how good can he be?
27:52Where is the ceiling? Because the ceiling, it looks so incredibly high after what we've seen from him over the last couple of weeks.
28:00He's bulked up a lot since last season. Like, you could just see it on him.
28:05He is huge compared to college Travis Hunter and rookie Travis Hunter.
28:08And you could tell, you know, the Jags were like, hey, man, put on some body armor.
28:14We're going to be using you this season. And they followed through on that promise.
28:18He is bigger. He is stronger. Didn't lose a step as far as explosiveness.
28:23And somehow, like, when's the last time you saw somebody put on that much muscle and still be as fast as they were?
28:30Especially corners. Especially corners. Yes. It almost never happens that way.
28:33And I think that game is a good transition to our next segment that we have here on the show, which is simply called, What Are We Doing?
28:42The first topic of What Are We Doing is about Liam Cohen, who I praise constantly for his offensive creativity, how aggressive
28:49he is as a coach, how much faith he puts in his players to really put the ball in their hand to go win the game.
28:57I think he believed he was doing that in this situation here at the end of the game, but it wasn't the correct decision to make.
29:05It's fourth and four. Houston's 42-yard line. Okay? The Jags are down three.
29:09And you have Cam Little, who... It is a positive thing having Cam Little on your team.
29:14I want to be very clear that I say that.
29:17But I think that having a kicker as good as Cam Little, who can blast a field goal from up to 70 yards, right?
29:24So maybe even beyond 70 yards, honestly. It's a great thing to have, but I think in this case, it swayed Liam Cohen in the wrong direction.
29:33Because they opt to kick a field goal well within Cam Little's range.
29:37And Brett, all they did was simply tie the game 31-31, giving the ball back to Houston.
29:42What was it? A minute 49 seconds left was when they hiked the ball for the first time.
29:47And Houston had all three timeouts. And all they had to do...
29:51The game was tied. All you were doing was tie in the game.
29:55You weren't even going up three. You were just tying the game.
29:59All Houston had to do was get into field goal range, and that was it.
30:03And guess what? They got into field goal range.
30:06It was over. You have to choose the path where you control your destiny more than that.
30:11Offenses are too good. CJ Stroud, in this very game, was too good.
30:15Your defensive line was not getting home at all in this game.
30:19And I think that this was a unique fault where having a kicker as good as little may have gotten in Cohen's head a little bit.
30:27To just think about how easy it would be to tie this game for him to make that field goal.
30:33And obviously he made it. But then we saw the consequences that followed.
30:37When you do not control your own destiny in the last two minutes, the last minute, whatever it is, it is often not the right decision.
30:45And in this case, it obviously was not the right decision because Jacksonville got exactly what they wanted out of that decision to kick the field goal.
30:54They made the field goal. And it didn't matter at all.
30:57And they still lost this game. And to me, it was an indefensible decision, which keep in mind, you know, next gen
31:04stats had it as like a plus 14.6% go.
31:07Yeah. This is one of the largest decisions of the year as far as going against the model.
31:12And I think it's to your point. It's because he had Cam Little.
31:16It's like 60 yard field goal. I have Cam Little.
31:19It's like, it's not about whether or not your kicker can.
31:23It's about whether or not you should. Right. And he should not have because up until this point, remember the Texans had scored 31 points on this defense.
31:31You couldn't get a stop all day. CJ's playing out of his mind.
31:35You know you're going to have to go through CJ Stroud on third down.
31:40And you know how many incompletions CJ Stroud had on third down in this game?
31:44None. He was seven of seven. So like I just, I have no confidence in this defense to stop CJ the way he was playing.
31:52So why even risk it? I think you, you have a much better chance of my highly paid first overall pick quarterback
31:59with my, you know, genius offensive coach and my myriad of weapons.
32:02Like I have a much better chance of converting a fourth and four taking way more clock kicking a field goal and
32:09it at least getting to overtime or maybe we just score a touchdown in the games over.
32:14That to me was just an indefensible decision. And it's the third week in a row now that I have had.
32:21Gripes of varying degrees with how Liam Cohen has managed fourth quarters.
32:25It happened in the Bengals game. It happened last week.
32:28It happened this week. He's a great coach. That is the one area that still needs to improve.
32:33Yeah. And, and it feels as though there's a lot more of these than there should be.
32:38There's a lot of coaching staffs, if not all of them in the NFL that like have analytics coaches.
32:44Now, I don't know how close they are on the sideline.
32:48I don't know if they're right next to where the head coach is.
32:52I don't know how much they're leaning on them, but there are a lot more of these decisions that I just did
32:59not think that we would see this season that we're seeing this season.
33:03From head coaches. And there's even stuff that doesn't require a coach to be in your ear.
33:08It should just be common sense. Like, hey, if the Bucs are trying to set up a field goal with a running
33:15clock, don't call timeout Mike McCarthy and let them swap to the K ball.
33:19I don't know. That's just common sense. Even the, even beyond the, the, even beyond the kicker ball, which the, the commentators
33:26did a good job of, of pointing out that if the Steelers would not have called the timeout there, not only would
33:32the Buccaneers have had to have sort of tried to collect themselves to then make the field goal as the clock was
33:39winding down and the clock was running. They also would have had to kick it with the game ball, not the specialized
33:46K balls that they get to sort of prep the kickers for that makes it.
33:51I'll say easier. I feel like the word's doing a lot of heavy lifting.
33:55It's little things that you can do to the ball that help out the kicker.
34:00It's not like it makes him, you know, automatic from 70 or something every single time.
34:04But it helps, but it helps. And again, we're talking, we're talking about decisions that are giving you the advantage in the slimmest of margins.
34:12And I just felt that was another example there of, I was so surprised that McCarthy bailed the Bucs out in two
34:19different instances by calling that one timeout. I can't tell you how many times I looked at the TV and said, what are we doing this week?
34:27Right. Kellen Moore pulling the starters with 10 minutes to go and then having to put them back on the field because they fumbled immediately.
34:35Right. You have, you have Harbaugh in the postgame presser be like, oh, we, we didn't, uh, we weren't trying to bench Skadabo.
34:42It's like, what, you accidentally gave him no carries in the game?
34:46Dude, do you think we're stupid? Skadabo even said after the game, Skadabo's like, yeah, I was being punished.
34:52Like he, he, he, he used that word. He's like, I was punished this week for what I did the previous week.
34:58Skadabo said it. He gets it. I don't know.
35:01I, I, obviously head coaches have a very difficult job because you're, you're not only like a, you're not only a coach,
35:08you're also a CEO of the team. You're also a, a people manager for these players.
35:13And you're also a politician to the media. Like there's a lot of things that you have to be as a head
35:20coach, but like, come on, man, you could just, you could just say it.
35:24No, just, you can lie to me. Don't call me stupid while you're doing it.
35:29It's fine. You could lie. I know you're paid to lie.
35:32Just don't insult our intelligence. Now, I think, I think, I think the reason why he didn't want to admit it is obviously because they lost, right?
35:40If they don't lose that game, he probably has no problem saying like, yeah, I mean, we, we, you know, Skadabo can't
35:47put the ball on the ground and he knows that.
35:50And we are giving guys another chance because of that opportunity.
35:54But I think because they lost a lot of fans would probably be like, why is Skadabo not getting the ball?
36:00So it's a lot of things, but ultimately, yeah, you don't have to, you don't have to lie to us like that.
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37:37All right, let's do a quick whip around on some of the other games that we didn't get to do as deep of a dive into.
37:45But obviously, we have fans of every single fan base that watched this show.
37:50So we want to acknowledge what happened around the league this week.
37:53Start off with Baltimore-Cleveland. Fun fact, Trevor. The Ravens are 0-5 when Derrick Henry loses a fumble.
37:59Every single one of those losses, by the way, was one possession.
38:02Ooh. And also an important game. Half of those were also against division opponents.
38:07It always happens at the worst time. In this particular game, his fumble set up the only Browns touchdown of the day.
38:14This season, Henry has lost negative 19.2 EPA on carries.
38:17That is the sixth most EPA lost in the NFL.
38:20And that fumble resulted in a negative 5.6 EPA.
38:22And even worse, a negative 14.2% win probability. So that one fumble was the play of the game.
38:28But it wasn't the only play in this game.
38:31The rest of the day, it's not like the Ravens offense was playing awesome.
38:35And I think, if anything, it was indicative of just the style that the Browns play.
38:40They will drag you into a mud fight. And typically, they're better at winning those than you are.
38:46Yeah, and Brett, I think it was just overall from the Ravens in this game.
38:50Now, I know Browns fans are going to be like, hey, talk about our team.
38:55The Browns on offense still don't have a lot of explosives.
38:58Obviously, they got the one big explosive that mattered, the passageary Judy, which put them in field goal range for them to
39:05win this game, which I'm not trying to take anything away from them there.
39:09But overall, just the efficiency and the overall explosiveness of this game from both sides wasn't what it needed to be.
39:16And I think it just shines a massive spotlight on what this Ravens team is without Lamar Jackson, even if Derrick Henry is in there.
39:23Because even beyond the Derrick Henry fumble. Okay, you look at this team, especially in the run game.
39:29Their best rush concepts this year. It's mainly outside zone.
39:32Outside zone, they've been fantastic this season. In this game, week six, they had six carries for only 22 yards.
39:383.7 yards per carry average and just a 33.3% success rate on outside zone runs.
39:43It was their lowest such success rate in a single game this season.
39:47And their fewest yards per carry on such runs in a game this season.
39:51So, again, hat tip to Cleveland's defense, which has played at a very, very high level this season.
39:57I want to give them their credit here. But I think it also goes to the fact that when Lamar is not
40:04out there, this team is just far too easy to defend.
40:07You know, Zay Flowers is going to get anywhere from 50 to 90 yards, probably somewhere within there.
40:13Maybe there's a touchdown in there. Maybe there's not.
40:15But who else outside of Zay Flowers? And that includes Derrick Henry.
40:19And I just think that it's a lot less of a guarantee that Henry's just going to be able to take over without Lamar out there.
40:27So, to me, it's just this Ravens team is not really a threat if they don't have Lamar out there.
40:33I know, I know. When the multi-time MVP isn't out there, I mean, great analysis, Trev.
40:38But seriously, it drops off even more than you would think for a team that you can name a lot of players that they have on their offense.
40:47It's just they're just not explosive when it's not.
40:49Yeah. I mean, if you're just looking at the carries that Derrick Henry had against stacked boxes, he had five carries for zero yards.
40:57Because what incentive do the Browns linebackers have for not just shooting gaps?
41:01Like, they don't think that they're going to get beat deep, right?
41:05So, it's just, it's a... If anything, this shows that Lamar might be underpaid.
41:09And he's one of the highest paid players in the NFL.
41:12Moving on to Jets-Patriots. Now, I know this might be the least sexy way to talk about this game, but it's the one I'm most passionate about.
41:21So, the Corey Kiner legacy drive in the fourth quarter, that's real football.
41:25Eight straight carries, bro. I need people to know that in the pre-show production meeting that we had, you very casually for
41:31this game was just like, yeah, I'm going to talk about the Corey Kiner legacy drive.
41:36And we were all like, the Corey Kiner legacy drive?
41:39What are we talking? And you were just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:43I'm going to lead with the Corey Kiner legacy drive.
41:47So, go ahead. So, gets the people going. The people just needed to know how passionate you were about this.
41:53You don't love it when you see Corey Kiner right tackle for 12 yards.
41:57Corey Kiner right guard for four yards. Corey Kiner up the middle for five yards.
42:02Just repeat ad nauseum for like five minutes of game clock while he chokes the life out of the New York Jets.
42:08Oh my God, dude. Like, this was great. He had a 66.7% success rate.
42:13He had like 44% missed tackle. Like, he put the team on his back.
42:17Carried them to victory. Literally. Really. That, to me, was an inspired performance.
42:21And speaking as a millennial that, you know, remembers Jonas Gray and all these other random Patriots running backs, which just have these legacy drives and legacy games.
42:30This is like peak Patriots. That's what I needed to back.
42:33Sports Illustrated cover athlete, Jonas Gray. May we never forget.
42:36Two guys that I also want to highlight in this game, obviously, other than Corey Kiner.
42:41Drake May, I think, has totally calmed down. Right?
42:44I mean, we talked about A.J. Brown and how much of a non-factor and even, honestly, a negative factor he was in this game.
42:51It didn't matter. It didn't matter. May looks so comfortable and confident right now.
42:56Now, specifically, you remember through the first couple of weeks when he was really struggling?
43:00And he was struggling. Something that I pointed out is when he held onto the ball for longer than two and a half seconds, it was not pretty.
43:09It was like he just really started to panic.
43:12Two touchdowns and fantastic stats when holding onto the ball for longer than two and a half seconds in this game.
43:18And I think that's been a trend over the last couple of weeks.
43:22So I'm not here to just, like, proclaim, like, oh, Drake May is fixed.
43:26But he really does look like he has totally calmed down, which is great to see because that's what you want to see.
43:33I think when we talk about the great quarterbacks in this league, a lot of times we focus on ceiling and what they have the potential to be.
43:42But to be honest with you, probably the most telltale sign of what makes a good to great quarterback in the NFL
43:49is your ability to go through your lulls and then bounce back.
43:53And not just, like, kind of bounce back, like, for a couple of games.
43:57Like, legitimately bounce back. Like, fix it. And right now it looks like Drake May has, not that he'll never struggle again, but he understands.
44:05Like, he was able to get over this hump and really be able to attack an area that he really struggled at the beginning of the season.
44:13And then I also want to shout out Elijah Ponder, the edge rusher from the New England Patriots, who is having one heck of a season.
44:21And he did another heck of a game. Five pressures in this game.
44:2519.2% pressure percentage. I mean, Ponder is, to me, the most underrated player on this team.
44:30I mean, he is just such a standout stud for them this season.
44:34So, I wanted to shout out both of those guys and how they played this game.
44:39And shout out Cal Poly San Luis Obispo. Mustang legend.
44:42There it is. There it is. That's where my parents met, so I followed his career very closely.
44:47I might be the only person in national sports media following Elijah Ponder, but I have to.
44:53Anyway, Giant Saints, bar burner over at MetLife. Brother, absolute classic Jameis Winston game.
44:57Okay. Over 400 yards of offense. Now, I know a good chunk of that wasn't Jameis.
45:02But, like, it had the microcosms of a Jameis Winston football game.
45:06Over 400 yards of offense, but bad turnovers, and you lost the game.
45:10I can't tell you how many times as a beat reporter for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I witnessed in person this exact movie.
45:17I got my popcorn out. I kicked my feet up, and I said, I love this film.
45:22I've seen that. I could quote every line in this movie, and that's what it felt like we got in this one.
45:29This is Transformers 1, man. This means something to me.
45:32Can I mention, by the way? So, J.J. McCarthy came in because they were, like, losing by a gazillion.
45:38Oh, you mean 18? 18? 18? Yeah, no longer 9.
45:41He's 18 now. Yeah, 18 came in. He went through a full metamorphosis.
45:45Dude, 243 yards. That's what I had to say.
45:48In a quarter! That's why I had to say, like, it wasn't all Jameis, but, like, the whole theme of the game was Jameis.
45:55The whole theme was Jameis. To the very end.
45:58That was unbelievable. He actually got them, like, they were close to scoring in the final second.
46:03Like, he got them down there. He had a huge run.
46:06Had a dot. Like, 243 yards in a quarter.
46:09That's on 11 completions, dude. Unreal. Unreal. Yeah. By the way, the reason why the Saints had so many points, because you
46:16look at Tyler Shuck, it's like, he had, like, 140-something yards passing, three touchdowns.
46:20It's like, how is that possible? He had 30-something points.
46:23How is that possible? So, this is where, like, numbers can lie to you a little bit.
46:29If you're looking at the scoring drives for the Saints, they had four of their scoring drives in this game that were
46:3516 yards long, 28 yards long, 30 yards long, and 21 yards long.
46:39These four Giants turnovers absolutely killed them in, you know, classic Jameis fashion.
46:43But what it meant was, the Saints, if you're looking at, like, success rate and yards per play and all, like, the
46:50play-to-play offensive stats, they weren't that good in this game.
46:53But each drive was so short, it didn't matter.
46:56They put up a bunch of points regardless. And Tyler Shuck, again, he capitalized.
47:00He made some good throws. Good throw to Olave down the boundary.
47:04But, man, if they just didn't turn the ball over, the Giants had a realistic shot of winning this game.
47:10So, we talked Corey Kiner legacy drive. How about Jeremy Bernard legacy game?
47:14It's true. It's true. Like, Jeremy Bernard was great in this Bucs game.
47:18What was the final route total for him? He ran 44 routes, got 12 targets, 11 catches, 87 yards, and a touchdown for young Jeremy Bernard.
47:26It was great to see. Not a ton to talk about in this game.
47:31We kind of already talked about the McCarthy decision.
47:33Obviously, Pittsburgh wins this one. One thing that I will note, though, for as much as I love Jalen Daniels, and I
47:40love that he's getting an opportunity to play here in his rookie season.
47:44I have seen a lot of people be like, oh, he's better than Mayfield.
47:48He's not the problem. Obviously, the Bucs have a lot of different problems on their team.
47:53But I do think that we have to be honest with how Daniels is playing.
47:58When he was pressured in this game, he was 2 for 10 with 15 yards and an interception.
48:03Just overall, his pocket management isn't good. He's still playing like he's at Kansas.
48:08Now, it gives you some of the fun plays, like on the fourth down play where he scrambled for the first down,
48:15and then he took that big shot, and it makes you believe, and you get pumped up and everything.
48:20And obviously, those plays are great to watch. But in the grand scheme of things, this is still somebody that struggles to
48:27see the field, struggles to read the field, struggles to feel pressure, struggles to navigate the pocket.
48:32And so the Bucs just aren't in a great spot right now.
48:36Or maybe they are, depending on if you just want them to get a higher draft pick.
48:41So I think that's kind of it. For a lot of Bucs fans, this was like ideal.
48:47It was an entertaining game. It was close. At this point in the season, yeah.
48:51I mean, it's hard to see light at the end of the tunnel here outside of the 2027 NFL draft.
48:57Yeah, you just have to watch Ohio State on Saturdays.
49:01There's your light. And I do. Anyway. And I do.
49:04Can't mention names, but, you know, just throw on the Buckeyes.
49:07It's fine. Let's talk Bills Vegas. There's a lot of Bills fans in Vegas today, by the way.
49:13I've seen the Bills Mafia travel well in person when I went to a game at SoFi.
49:18They really showed out in Vegas. It sounded like a Bills game in there.
49:22No shade to Raiders fans. It's just when your team is in, you know, one of the tourism capitals of America, you're
49:29going to get a lot of away fans. It happened again, especially for a fan base that likes to travel a lot.
49:36If you're looking at the Bills offense in this game, beyond Josh Allen making one of the most Josh Allen plays I've
49:42ever seen, that like shot put touchdown that he had late in the game, which was ridiculous.
49:48If you're looking at the Bills run game, they had 4.3 yards per carry, still a 50% designed rush success rate.
49:54That was higher than their designed run success rate from weeks one through five.
49:58So they didn't have a crazy yards per carry.
50:01In fact, their yards per carry in the first few weeks was higher at 5.1.
50:06They had the fourth highest yards per carry, but their success rate was higher in this game.
50:11As in, we are getting the yards that we need to get with each carry.
50:16It's not flashy. It's not sexy. Not getting explosives.
50:18But we need four yards. We're getting four yards.
50:21And we're doing it like 30 times in this game.
50:24It was just a crushing, crushing run game. And it did exactly what they needed to do.
50:30Josh made the exact amount of plays that he needed to make.
50:33Some of them crazier than others. And while the Raiders did give them a scare in the end, and they put up
50:40a good fight and showed that this is not a bad team.
50:44Like, they are right there. It's the second time this season where I still felt like they were a year away from winning that kind of game.
50:52I agree with you. And look, it's not a moral victory type of a league, but I'm not on the Raiders coaching staff.
50:59So I'll talk about it as a moral victory.
51:02I mean, you look competitive against a team that could potentially win the Super Bowl this year.
51:07And not just competitive, like you were there at the end.
51:11And this is not the only time that this has happened.
51:14The Raiders have been able to go toe-for-toe with the best opponents that they have played so far this season.
51:20I like the way their O-line played in this game.
51:23Specifically, four out of the five offensive linemen had pressure percentages below 5%.
51:27While Cousins had a time-to-throw of 2.89. So it's not like Cousins was getting rid of the ball in 2.45 seconds.
51:34Like, he was holding onto the ball at an average amount that you would see around the NFL.
51:39And the offensive line was really able to hold up.
51:42So it doesn't always all come together in one week.
51:45But it can show up in every single area of your team.
51:49And I think that we've seen that throughout the Raiders.
51:52So again, a year away, I agree with you.
51:55But man, it's good to... It's cool to look at this Raiders team and think like, yeah, I mean, we're already excited
52:02about what this team could be next year with another year of growth.
52:06And they're not even playing Mendoza yet. Yeah. So...
52:09All right, let's get to Eagles, Carolina. You know, the Eagles, it's...
52:12Oh boy, it's been a rough week for them.
52:15You know, you're losing Jalen Hurts. We think potentially for the season.
52:19It's indefinitely on IR with blood clots. Who knows?
52:21Obviously a very serious thing. We do not want him to get rushed back from this.
52:26So we'll see how long that takes. I'm just happy they caught it before something horrible happened.
52:32Obviously, yeah. But, you know, you're down offensive linemen.
52:34You're on RB6, I guess, at this point. You know, starting quarterback.
52:38It's just a mess in Philly. It's a lost season for them at this point.
52:43But that being said, they did hold Bryce to his worst game of the season.
52:47The point that I want to make on that, though.
52:50So his EPA per drop back was plus .04.
52:53Worst game of the year for him. That would still be 16th among 31 starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
52:59His passer rating today was 91.7. That would still be 17th in the NFL.
53:03So his worst game of the year was an average starting quarterback.
53:07That is how well Bryce has played this year.
53:10So I know you look at the box score and you're like, oh, didn't see a typical Bryce day.
53:16Hey, that's good if that's your reaction. Because that means a typical Bryce day is like a top seven quarterback in the league.
53:23Right, right. And I think his connection with McMillan was awesome to see because we've praised their coaching staff, you know, whether
53:30it's Canales or Brad Idzik or like whoever is the main design of this.
53:34Putting Tetrault and McMillan in the slot and letting him win is like a big slot.
53:39Obviously, that's a great thing to see. But you also want to be able to see McMillan line up on the outside and win on the outside.
53:47And in this game, Young completed season high 13 of 21 attempts for 193 yards when targeting receivers aligned out wide against
53:54the Eagles going seven for 14 for 88 yards and two touchdowns on all other attempts.
53:59And so like Bryce was great at it. I think McMillan was a big part of that.
54:04And so it was just good to see them being able to attack outside the numbers as well.
54:10I think that that just speaks to the versatility of all this.
54:13Chargers Chiefs. Good God, Trevor. This is a bad football team.
54:17I'm talking about the Chargers. Obviously, the Chiefs are a good football team.
54:21L.A. is bad, bad, like horrifically bad. Like the last time they started 0-6, their head coach was their starting quarterback.
54:27That was when Jim Harbaugh was starting for them.
54:30It's been a long time since we've seen a Chargers team this bad.
54:34Yeah, thank Twitter for that one. It wasn't me.
54:37But boy, this is like a historically awful time to be a Chargers fan.
54:41And that's kind of a low bar to clear if we're being honest about it.
54:46This is year three of Harbaugh. In the previous two seasons, he went 11-6 and 11-6.
54:51He was second in the division. Yeah, they lost in the wild card both times.
54:55And obviously, you wanted to see that progress. So this is a major hit.
55:00But outside of the vibes, just getting absolutely horrendous.
55:02I can't see them moving on from either Herbert or Harbaugh.
55:06So I think the most likely thing that's going to happen here is they're going to take a good, hard look at their coordinators.
55:13I think we're getting some changes that are probably going to be made even in the middle of the season because they
55:20have to at this point with you having no wins.
55:23But ultimately, like a total down-to-the-studs type of a rebuild, I don't see that happening with this team.
55:29I think it's just you've got to find some building blocks going into the next season.
55:33And specifically, really the only thing that matters at this point for the Los Angeles Chargers is what is wrong with Justin Herbert.
55:41Does Herbert just not like McDaniel's offense? Does he just not want to play behind an offensive line of second and third stringers?
55:48I wouldn't blame him for any of that. But you have to definitively answer that question of what is wrong with him.
55:54Because even for the harshest of critics of Justin Herbert, this season's a different level of what we've seen from him.
56:01And that's the worst part of it. On the Chiefs side, I mean, Kenneth Walker is still ridiculous, which I feel like we've said every single week.
56:09Plus .15 EPA per touch. Only JSN is averaging more with a minimum of 50 touches.
56:14Also, Kenneth Walker became the first player with 750-plus scrimmage yards and eight touchdowns through the first five games of the season since Priest-Holmes for the 2002 Chiefs.
56:23So it's been almost a quarter century since somebody started this hot.
56:27Also, their pass rush showed up for the first time since week one.
56:31So maybe they just have to play every game against the AFC West.
56:35They had four sacks. Their first sacks in like three and a half games.
56:39The pass rush basically disappeared since week one and then came back.
56:43Which, what does that say about the Chargers' pass protection, I guess?
56:46The Chargers only had a 27% success rate on offense.
56:49Just domination from start to finish. Whether it was Kenneth Walker, whether it was the pass rush.
56:55I mean, all phases, they just kicked their ass.
56:57Alright, next game on the docket. Titans-Colts. Shout out to the Tennessee Titans, by the way.
57:02Getting their first win of the season in dramatic fashion.
57:05At halftime, they had, I'm looking at it right now, a 4% chance to win.
57:10Because it was 13-0. They rattled off 26 second half points.
57:13Got a bunch of help from their defense. A bunch of help for their special teams.
57:18Had a pump block for a touchdown in this one.
57:21Both of their safeties, by the way, had 12 plus tackles in this game.
57:26Jeff Simmons had six pressures and two sacks. Like, it was a complete team win.
57:30I'd say more so defense and special teams than offense.
57:33But hey, they won a game. It's great. Everything's hunky-dory in Nashville for a week.
57:38Yeah. Meanwhile, everything awful in Indy. Talk about bad vibes.
57:41I have not seen Colts fans this... It's not even irate.
57:44It's broken. I have not seen a Colts fan base this broken in a very long time.
57:50And they've put up with a lot in the last decade.
57:53Well, Brad, I think the problem is that, like, when you get to a point where your fan base just has complete
58:00apathy, like, whether it's wins or losses, it doesn't really matter.
58:03That's when you know that you're in a bad place as a franchise.
58:07So, obviously, shout out to the Titans. Obviously, it's a team that...
58:11It's a new coaching staff. It's still a relatively young team.
58:14This is a great win to get, especially the comeback type of a win.
58:19And it gives you belief. It stokes the flames of the competitiveness that you have throughout the next couple of weeks and the rest of the season.
58:27Like, this is great for the Titans to obviously get this win here.
58:31For the Colts, it goes kind of back to what we've talked about with the Colts.
58:36And that is, they're fine, I guess. Right? I mean, like, if the Colts made the playoffs this year, Brett, would you really care?
58:43Would you give them a chance against any team that they played?
58:47I would care in the sense that it's like, cool, I get to watch Jonathan Taylor and DeForest Buckner and maybe eventually
58:54Alec Pierce play football for another week. Those are fun players to watch.
58:58Josh Downs. Like, I love watching some of their players individually play football.
59:02They're really, really good. As a team, are they anything close to what a Super Bowl contender should be?
59:08That's what I'm saying. And, like, I'm not trying to be overly harsh on the Colts who, like, do things, do some things well.
59:15But I think the ceiling of this team was a wildcard victory at best.
59:19And I felt like they just ran it back.
59:22Like, I felt like that was the team last year.
59:25The record that they had through the first, what was it, eight, nine weeks of the season, obviously it was incredible.
59:32But they were basically playing perfect brand of football.
59:35And you knew that that wasn't going to last.
59:37If you thought that it was going to last, you were sipping the Kool-Aid on it.
59:42So I just, I felt like they ran a team back with an extremely low ceiling.
59:47A little bit of a different show today. We tried to hit a lot of different teams while also going in-depth on
59:54the ones that we really wanted to spend a lot of extra time with.
59:58So if you enjoyed this format a little bit more, let us know.
60:02Because we're a show of the people. And obviously we want to make this show as good as possible for you guys
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60:12Shout out to the internet outage at my house, which is why I'm in a new setting at my father-in-law's house.
60:19But you know what? You know what? Big internet tried to keep us down.
60:23Can't do that here on NFL Pro. We're powering through.
60:26This is a Sunday slate. We had to get to it.
60:29We had to react to it. Shout out to the NGS people.
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60:40Shout out to the production team for bringing this all together and making our nonsense hopefully sound a little less nonsensy.
60:47Shout out to Brett Coleman, my co-host here. And I'm Trevor Sikama saying thank you guys so much for watching.
60:53And we'll see you guys later this week for the next preview show on Week 7.
60:58See you guys then. Thank you for listening to our Week 7 reaction show.
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