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0:29Welcome to another edition, a let's get it week six edition of the NFL Report.
0:34We're presented by Nationwide. It is good to be back from our studios in Los Angeles.
0:39My name is Andrew Siciliano. Who's up? Who's down?
0:42Thursday night football in Denver. Lance Zierlein joins us shortly with that.
0:46We begin, however, with what is news to me, our latest headlines.
0:50And there is a lot of news today out of Philadelphia.
0:54The short version is Jalen Hurts is out this week.
0:57The long version, there is no news to me.
1:00No public timetable for his return. No public timetable for his return.
1:04He has what the Eagles are calling a superficial blood clot in his calf.
1:09The team made the announcement today. Hurts showed up on the injury report this past Friday in London as a full participant with a calf injury.
1:17He played Sunday. Wednesday said the injury was a unique experience.
1:21And then today the Eagles midday hit send on a press release saying Jalen's okay, but he has this issue and we don't know when he's coming back.
1:30Zach Berman has covered the Eagles for years and does it in a fantastic way for the athletic.
1:36Zach, any idea how long he's going to be out?
1:39It's a good question. It's a good question. And it's one I would be disingenuous if I gave you an answer to
1:46because I still think they're in the process of figuring that out.
1:50They're in the process of figuring out what the best course of action is, what the best treatment is.
1:57It's not the type of thing where it's a sprained ankle or a twisted knee and you have precedent for it.
2:04It's fairly unprecedented or fairly unique in its approach.
2:07So the short answer is no. And talking to players in the locker room today, they didn't know either.
2:13They just knew it was going to be Tanner McKee on Sunday.
2:17Yeah, blood clots are serious. This is not a one week thing where you're like, oh, no, he's fine next week.
2:24It's indefinite and indefinite could be any number of weeks here.
2:27You mentioned Tanner McKee. He is the new number one.
2:31He has had a shot twice over the last couple of years in the final game of the season when the Eagles
2:38were arresting starters, but they do need another quarterback.
2:41Is Andy Dalton still a possibility? Andy Dalton was obviously here during the summer.
2:45They released him last week after demoting him for Tanner McKee.
2:49You would think it's a possibility. Cole Payton, though, their fifth round pick.
2:53As of now, he would be their backup quarterback this week.
2:57So there have been some the last couple of years that have wondered aloud.
3:01I wonder what Tanner McKee would look like in this offense.
3:05So he gets his shot now midseason, not week 18 when it means nothing.
3:10But he gets his shot, Zach, without Saquon Barkley, Devontae Smith.
3:13The backfield is just a disaster. What kind of shot is this?
3:17Well, it's a meaningful game because, as you referenced, his previous starts came in week 18.
3:22So it's a game of significance, which is different.
3:25But it's a tough spot for Tanner. And I'll be honest with you, Tanner McKee is someone who two years ago looked really good.
3:33He entered the game in week 17, helped Eagles win the NFC East in the second half of that game through two touchdowns on four passes.
3:42And he was a good fit in Eagles' previous offensive scheme.
3:45He struggled this summer in competition with Andy Dalton, did not win that competition.
3:50But he does have a good arm. He's a good processor.
3:54He's more used to this offense than he was, let's say, six weeks ago or three months ago.
4:00But we'll see who he's playing with or more specifically without.
4:03He's down at least three day one starting offensive linemen.
4:06Their starting wide receivers are dealing with injuries. You mentioned Saquon Barkley.
4:10He wasn't at practice today for the second consecutive day.
4:14So there could be as many as six backups in the starting lineup in this game.
4:19I snicker there because he's used to playing with reserves in week 18.
4:23He's playing with half of the reserves this week in week six.
4:27There's symmetry here. His OC, Sean Mannion, was in the same position.
4:31He twice started the final game of the season for the Rams when they were resting Jared Goff for the postseason.
4:38That was his basic starting experience in the NFL.
4:41And now he's calling plays for Tanner McKee, who is in the same position.
4:46It's always a what if, because obviously we know the discourse around Jalen Hurts.
4:50What if Tanner McKee plays well? You never know, right?
4:53And it's something we've seen in Philadelphia before. Howie Roseman would tell you that no organization has benefited more from a backup quarterback than the Eagles.
5:02I mean, there's a Lombardi trophy in this complex I'm in right now because of Nick Foles.
5:08So you never know. Tanner McKee is someone, too, who there is credibility within this locker room, within the huddle.
5:14I was talking to Jordan Mailata, the Eagles left tackle today.
5:18And he spoke about the confidence he has in Tanner from being with Tanner before, that the high energy Tanner brings.
5:25And it's a different type of personality than Jalen Hurts, who's more kind of the calm, cool, collected, to use the term that Jordan Mailata used.
5:33So we'll see what happens. Frankly, the Eagles can't look beyond one week here.
5:38They've lost three in a row. It's the first losing record they've had since the 2021 season.
5:43They just need to win a game, and then they can figure out everything else thereafter.
5:49It's against the Carolina Panthers. Mailata, as you tweeted, said this has been, he said, last week was a week from HE Double Hockey Sticks.
5:57And now this. He spoke too soon, he said.
6:00Yes, he spoke too soon. Zach Berman from The Athletic with the Eagles.
6:04Appreciate you, Zach. We continue here on the NFL Report, and we do so with more quarterback news.
6:10Looks like Baker Mayfield is going to miss another game for the Buccaneers.
6:14OC Zach Robinson says Mayfield is, quote, just not quite ready to practice.
6:19He has a thumb injury. It's his right hand is throwing hand.
6:23So get ready for Jalen Daniels making his third straight start beat the Cowboys last week in primetime.
6:28Bucs at home this week against the Steelers. In Chicago, far more positive for Caleb Williams.
6:34Once again, a full participant Thursday. He has missed the last three Bears games, who, oh, by the way, are in Atlanta Sunday.
6:41They get the Falcons. Do not know before you start asking.
6:45Do not know if I'm playing yet. Have to go through a bunch of medical protocols.
6:50Obviously, have to get out there and practice. Do the stress test thing that, obviously, you do when you're trying to come back from injury or serious injury.
6:59Caleb, what would you say was the injury? What would you tell us was the injury?
7:05It was a hamstring tear and a pretty serious one.
7:08Did they give you a grade? Yeah, we got a grade, but I wouldn't say it's deserved to be put out there after all the false ones.
7:17So, next question. Caleb Williams not showing you his hamstring report card.
7:21We can show you, however, Sam Darnold, Drew Locke, the Seahawks quarterbacks in the building in Denver, getting ready to face the Broncos.
7:28There is Jackson Smith and Jigba, who leads the NFL in touchdown receptions from those two quarterbacks, Seahawks and the Broncos.
7:35Let's get a primetime preview presented by Nationwide here on the NFL Report.
7:39And for that, we welcome NFL.com. It's Lance Zerlein.
7:42Lance, great to see you. Let's talk the other quarterback, Bo Nix, who on the podium this week seemed like, honestly, like it was a therapy session.
7:51Like, what is good play, what is bad play, first quarter versus fourth quarter, letting it rip versus confidence and lack of confidence.
7:59Like, what do you need to see from Bo Nix in the first half tonight that gives you faith he's the guy?
8:06Yeah, he needs to come out with an attacking mindset.
8:09What's happened? So, he has 190 yards passing or less in three of his last five games.
8:15And what's happened to him is that it's the same thing I saw in college.
8:20There were different instances during college where he turned in to check down Charlie.
8:24And he was just comfortable taking the short throw.
8:27They aren't good enough to incrementally move down the field with 14 and 15 play drives.
8:33They've got to hit explosives in Denver. Sean Payton's taking over the play calling.
8:37So, Davis Webb, the former offense coordinator, is no longer the problem.
8:41They've kind of turned their attention to Bo Nix.
8:44And he's got to look down the field and be a more explosive quarterback and be a more aggressive quarterback.
8:51That's the big problem right now that Denver faces and Bo Nix faces.
8:55Now, for Seattle, they've got to run the football.
8:58It's an offensive line that is really poor when it comes to yards before contact.
9:03Their running backs are taking contact in less than one yard.
9:07So, in less than one yard gained, they're already getting contact.
9:10It's one of the worst numbers in the NFL.
9:13So, what are you going to do? Well, Denver's got a bunch of guys out in the secondary.
9:19So, you'd think throw the ball, throw the ball, throw the ball.
9:23But more than likely, Denver will protect that backup secondary that's playing right now, which means lighter boxes.
9:29It's a Denver running game, run defense. That's, you know, they're fourth from last in the NFL right now.
9:35So, I think Seattle has to continue to try and establish the run.
9:39And things will take, the passing game will take care of itself.
9:43So, run the football today. And for Denver, you've got to go get explosives from Bo Nix.
9:49As they're playing in Denver tonight without Sertan and without Talanoa Hufunga.
9:53But Riley Moss is up. He had been questionable.
9:56So, at least some sense of normalcy there in the Denver secondary.
10:00Thank you, Lance Zerline. Let's move on here to Baltimore for the second consecutive day.
10:05Lamar Jackson officially did not practice. Remember, he did not play in week five with the ankle injury.
10:11Tyler Huntley was the Ravens quarterback. They won it overtime in Atlanta.
10:15What does that mean for Sunday? Who knows? But it is an AFC North battle this week with the Ravens taking on the Browns.
10:22That game is in Cleveland. Last year, the Ravens swept the Browns.
10:26But that was John Harbaugh's staff. This is Jesse Minter's staff facing Deshaun Watson, who is 2-0 as a Browns starter against the Ravens.
10:34Yeah, they're playmakers. You know, those guys are especially, you know, Hamilton, all pro guy.
10:39He starts, I think, year two, you know, on his way to be an all pro.
10:44You know, those guys are playing really high-level football for that defense, and they have other guys on that defense too.
10:51So, you know, this is a great challenge for us to be able to go out there and test where we are.
10:59And, you know, we've just got to be on the same page and see what they're doing and make sure that we,
11:06you know, have those guys accounted for each and every play.
11:09This week, Lance Deshaun Watson could not pull out the fourth quarter comeback on the road in New York against the Jets.
11:17They lost that one this week. He likely does not have a running back in his backfield that was there during training camp.
11:24Jaleel McLaughlin could be your starter. Audrick Estime, fresh off the Vikings practice squad, could be your number two.
11:30How do they beat this Ravens defense? Well, they're going to have to create offense.
11:35I'm not sure how it's going to happen because they're beat up on the offense.
11:40As you mentioned, the offensive line wasn't very good last week.
11:44They are really in a problem spot at the running back position.
11:48So Todd Munkin's going to have to figure out how to get the ball outside the tackle boxes.
11:54Quick passing game, find ways to get extended handoffs through tunnel screens and jet sweeps.
11:59He's going to have to become very creative offensively for them to win.
12:03The other problem you have is Derrick Henry. I mean, Derrick Henry is a monster, and you are hurt down the middle.
12:10There are injuries galore along the defensive line for the Cleveland Browns.
12:14Carson Schwestinger right now is not practicing. And you've got Derrick Henry, who's a monster.
12:19Of course, Todd Munkin was his play caller last year, so he knows a little something about what he does well and where he needs help.
12:28And so maybe that can help the defense a little bit.
12:31But more than likely, when you just do the math on this, it's going to be really difficult on both sides of
12:38the ball this week for the Cleveland Browns. Yep, you mentioned Carson Schwestinger.
12:43He has yet to miss a snap this season, but he did not practice in each of the last two days.
12:50Plus, Mike Hall, Mason Graham, both also out of practice today for the Browns.
12:54Lance Zerlein coming right back. Don't go anywhere, Lance.
12:57We continue on the NFL Report, and we continue with this question.
13:01Can the Texans in Lance's backyard make the postseason at 1-4?
13:05Well, no one at 1-4 is making the playoffs, but you get my point.
13:09That's next on the NFL Report. You know, sometimes as we continue on the NFL Report, you look at numbers and you say, how is this a thing?
13:19How are the Cowboys averaging nearly 28 points a game?
13:22That's number seven of the NFL. And how are they two and three?
13:26Well, they lost in primetime last week to the Buccaneers, as bad a loss as you have seen this season.
13:33This week in primetime, they get the Packers at Lambeau.
13:36And Matt LaFleur knows slowing down Dak Prescott ain't easy.
13:39It's a different offense than what we run, but I think it's pretty damn effective.
13:44I think Dak's an elite quarterback. And then you've got two legitimate number one receivers that they're capable of scoring on any play.
13:52Let's look at the quarterbacks side by side. Jordan Love, a just ridiculous performance last week with the deep ball against the
13:59Bears as they carved up the Chicago secondary. These two quarterbacks, Lance Zerlein, pretty darn similar.
14:04And remember, when last they faced, which was a primetime game in Week 5 in Dallas a year ago, they combined for 80 points.
14:12It was a 40-40 tie, if you remember. So the topic bar here is very Sunday morning, Lance.
14:18Not a shot at the topic bar. Which quarterback has the edge Sunday night?
14:23Ooh, I'm going to go slight edge with Jordan Love, and let me tell you why.
14:28He is 20. The Green Bay Packers are 24th in league in scoring offense.
14:33Not even 21 yards a game. They're last with a running game, producing 60 yards on the ground per game.
14:39The offensive line's not as good as what Dak Prescott has.
14:43But you know what? Jordan Love is making it happen with explosives.
14:47Right here, that's a great example. Christian Watson and Matthew Golden are averaging 17.4 yards per catch.
14:52And they've got a total of nine touchdowns between them.
14:56That's the reason that they're 3-2 right now, is because Jordan Love is taking a heavy burden on his shoulders, and he's
15:03delivering when he needs to with explosive plays. That's been the real key here.
15:07Dak's done a great job. But the duo that Dallas has versus the duo at wide receiver that the Green Bay Packers
15:15have, this is a fantastic matchup this week. I just want to mention them because it compliments the two quarterbacks, Love and Prescott as well.
15:23Yeah, absolutely. And as for that Cowboys defense here, Christian Parker, their D.C., who had never called plays before they brought him
15:30in from Philadelphia, where he was an assistant or Vic Fangio, brought in Mike Pettin this week, the former Browns head coach, for a second set of eyes.
15:39Parker says he is going to likely remain on the sideline calling to defense after earlier in the week, owner Jerry Jones,
15:46on his weekly radio spot locally, said Parker would move upstairs.
15:50All right, so there's that if you're scoring at home.
15:53And if you are as well, it's the Giants and not the Cowboys who sit atop the NFC East to open up week six.
16:01New York has, and I'm going to spin this positively, yet to lose a game with Jameis Winston as the starter.
16:08A tie is not a loss. They're 2-0-1. I just think, you know, the coaches are doing an incredible job, you know, catering to our playmakers.
16:17I think that's so important. You know, football can be very simple when you say, hey, this is who we have.
16:24How can we make them look good? We make them look good, we in turn will look good.
16:30So just hats off to those guys upstairs, working their tail off day in and day out to give us the best
16:37chance to go out there and give our best players the ball.
16:41All right, Lance, 2-0-1 with Jameis. 3-1-1 overall. Then it's the Eagles at 2-3, the Cowboys at 2-3, the Commanders at 1-3-1.
16:48Let's play true or false. I beg your pardon.
16:51True or false, Lance, the Giants are the best team in the NFC East.
16:55Hmm. Let's go true. I don't really have a choice, do I?
16:59You don't sound very convincing. Well, look. Look, the Eagles are a mess.
17:04We can't say the Eagles. The Cowboys, defensively, they're a mess again.
17:08Another year where it's a real problem for them.
17:11They got shut down offensively by Todd Bowles last week, although I think Dallas is obviously a good offensive unit.
17:17The advantage here, and this is going to sound strange, I look for all these numbers to find how I could convince myself that it's the Giants.
17:26You know what they do well? They punt well.
17:29And the reason that matters is because they are a good team when it comes to taking away the football with interceptions.
17:36They've got six, and they've only had three interceptions against.
17:40They're good against the pass. So when you get field position for the Giants, they're doing a good job of maintaining good field position for their offense.
17:48So I can't really find – they've got one rushing touchdown.
17:52They're not explosive as a passing team. They're okay defensively in general, but they do just enough to be tops in that division.
18:00It helped that Washington doesn't know much about clock management last week.
18:03But, hey, you are what your record says. You are 3-1-1.
18:07They punt well. Tip of the cap to Jordan Stout.
18:10They punt well. Why can't we talk – hey, Harbaugh's a third-phase guy, right?
18:15He was a special teams coach. And he brought Stout with him from Baltimore.
18:20All right, let's transition to the Bills. We saw them at a Classic on Monday night.
18:25But rhetorical question, can you win a championship without a defense?
18:28Statistically, they do not have a defense, at least not one that could historically win a championship.
18:34True or false, Lance, the Bills are the team to beat in the AFC despite the number 28 defense.
18:40False, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm going Chiefs.
18:44I've been writing the Chiefs off for like three years now, and I thought this was finally my year.
18:50I thought this was finally my year. And Pat Mahomes comes back, and the Chiefs look good again.
18:56Look, I love Josh Allen, my favorite quarterback to watch in the entire NFL.
19:01Love watching the offense perform. Defensively, they're just not very sound.
19:05I think there are some personnel issues that are not going to go away no matter how much they try to coach it up.
19:13And with that in mind, there's just too many teams that can get hot at the right time in the AFC, I
19:20think, for you to just shoot it out with everyone.
19:23So I'm going to have to say Kansas City, once again, is going to be the team that is the best team
19:30in the West right now, rather than the AFC right now.
19:34Wow. Wow. Okay. The Texans were in that conversation when the season began.
19:38They are no longer in that conversation now that they are 1-4.
19:42But, hey, they got a win. Let's show you some Texans defensive numbers, if we could.
19:47Because the first month of the season, when they were facing Josh Allen and Joe Burrow and Dak Prescott, their defense was bad.
19:55But then last week against Cam Ward, well, all of a sudden, they're the Texans defense again.
20:00And, Lance, what if I told you, and I know you know this, you're in Houston, that the schedule sets up pretty well for them.
20:09Now, this week, not easy in any way, shape, or form in London against a very good Jaguar team.
20:15But then it's the Giants, and you just said they punt well.
20:19Then it's a bye. Then it's the Chargers. And then you see the right side of the screen.
20:25Not easy, but not out of the realm of possibility that they could get something going here.
20:30So, Lance Erlein, true or false, the Texans at 1-4 can still make the postseason.
20:35I'm going to say true. Now, you know, come find me after Sunday's game in London because if they lose to the Jaguars, we're shutting it down.
20:44But if they beat the Jaguars, which is definitely possible in London, then all of a sudden you're really looking at needing
20:51to go 5-1 in your next six. That's completely – or rather, 4-1 in your next six.
20:57That's completely possible. They would be 6-5 after that.
21:00And we saw the schedule, it's certainly doable. And then you'll worry about, you know, the colder weather teams as you get to them.
21:08But the Texans right now added Marvin Harrison Jr.
21:11That's – once Nico Collins is on the field, they're scoring almost 30 points a game right now.
21:17So adding Marvin Harrison Jr., Nico's healthy. The defense, I think, is going to become the defense once again.
21:23And the schedule sets up well for them. It's not over just yet.
21:27Don't count them out just yet. Marvin Harrison Jr.
21:30set to play in London. He does have a passport.
21:33Lance Irline, we thank you kindly. Stay right there as we continue on the NFL Report.
21:39Coming up, we go back to Denver. More Thursday night football as the Seahawks and Broncos get ready for a Super Bowl rematch.
21:46One from 12 years ago. Now granted, the fifth time they've met since then.
21:51But why not make it a Super Bowl rematch?
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22:13Plus.nfl.com slash fast. Terms and conditions do apply. How about this in Pittsburgh, where Steelers players took part in the Pittsburgh Next
22:20Youth Career Resource and Opportunity Fair Tuesday at Accrashire.
22:23Cam Hayward was there. It's Cam's Kindness Week. Steelers looking to empower young adults with ready-to-work resources, networking and career opportunities, mock interviews, networking opportunities, job resource tables.
22:33A lot there. Great job by the Steelers in the community.
22:36Let's get some quick hits, some headlines from around the NFL.
22:40We mentioned the Texans. They are going to have a few empty seats on the plane going over to London.
22:46Tankdale, David Montgomery, Jalen Petrie, all ruled out already for that divisional head-to-head with the Jaguars.
22:52None of them will make the trip. Keep it an eye on Jeremiah Love Meantime, the rookie running back, at the top five pick in Arizona.
23:00He was not at practice again today. The Cardinals are in L.A.
23:04to face the Rams at SoFi. Mike Evans, not at practice today.
23:08Up in Santa Clara, he has Achilles soreness. That is in addition, Kyle Shanahan says, to his rib issue.
23:14Niners play Monday night. They get the Commanders in Santa Clara.
23:18And Rasheed Rice out of practice today. He has a hamstring injury.
23:22The Chiefs and the winless Chargers. That game is in Kansas City coming up on Sunday.
23:27All right, let's get one more thing in here before we go.
23:31Show you some Jameis Winston numbers last week against the Blitz.
23:35He was fantastic. Also fantastic. Jameis Winston on the podium.
23:38Here to make you smile. Your daily dose of Jameis.
23:41My take on the Jameis Winston experience is that I am called to be the light of the world and the salt of the earth.
23:50Right? Like every time that I'm around someone, I am driven to increase that man or that woman with every action that I take.
23:57So if you're defining that as the Jameis Winston experience, I'm telling you that is the Jameis Winston experience that I intend to give.
24:05He is. He's my favorite. He is flat out my favorite.
24:09Jameis Winston, one of my favorite, not players in the NFL, but people, hands down, in the NFL.
24:15Also among my favorite people, Bucky Brooks, Cody Kessler, and Mike Yam.
24:19They are coming up game day preview with any and everything you need to know about the Seahawks and the Broncos and
24:26Thursday night football in week number six. Among the Denver injuries, Pat Sertan and Talanoa Hufanga.
24:31They are both out, but Riley Moss is up.
24:34So the corner opposite Pat Sertan is up. And for the Seahawks, it's Sam Darnold and company trying to bounce back after losing this past week.
24:43A game viewed by 26 million people. The head-to-head against the 49ers.
24:47I'm Andrew Siciliano. So long, everybody. This is an iHeart Podcast.
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