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The Insiders Podcast: NFL Declines Brendan Sorsby’s Supplemental Draft Application and Packers WR Christian Watson Joins the Insiders

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43 min
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Jun 24, 2026
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Wed, June 24, 2026
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Kyle PittsChristian WatsonBo NixBrandon AiyukBrian Thomas Jr.Brock PurdyDaniel JonesDJ TurnerGeno SmithGeorge KittleGeorge PickensJalen CarterJayden DanielsJoe Burrow
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Bo Nix

PositiveInjury0:05

Nix fractured his right ankle in the divisional round playoff game against the Bills on the game-winning drive; he participated in mandatory minicamp doing individual drills (not team drills); he joked that his ankle is as good as new and he's even more mobile than before; he had a second surgery in April to deal with bone spurs; Sean Payton said his quarterback will clearly be ready; Nix has never missed a regular season snap in his NFL career.

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Brandon Aiyuk

NegativeRole25:25

Brandon Aiyuk continues to pursue a trade away from the San Francisco 49ers, a legitimate playoff contender, to join the Washington Commanders. Adam Rank criticized Aiyuk's approach, noting that while Jaden Daniels is a good quarterback and both played at Arizona State, Aiyuk's desire to leave a perennial playoff contender for a team with inconsistent success is questionable.

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Brian Thomas Jr.

PositiveRole22:19

Brian Thomas Jr. had a disappointing second season but has made a huge step in spring workouts, focusing on the mental element and chemistry with Trevor Lawrence. Cam Wolfe reports that Thomas is expected to be used heavily on vertical routes down the field, where the Jaguars believe he can take the next step. He is projected to be one of the two leading receivers in Jacksonville alongside Parker Washington.

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Brock Purdy

NegativeRole31:33

Brock Purdy is one of two quarterbacks George Kittle is sharing time with at Tight End University 2026, held at Vanderbilt's new stadium.

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Christian Watson

PositiveRole0:12

Watson bounced back to have an explosive return from injury just nine months after ACL surgery, and now has a normal offseason without rehabbing; his body feels significantly better than when he was playing at the end of last season with heavy legs, and he's focused on football-specific work throughout the offseason.

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PositiveRole0:14

Watson expects the Packers' wide receiver room to be explosive and dynamic with him and Jaylen Reed having played significant snaps; Matthew Golden entering his second year is expected to show much more than he did last year with more opportunities; the room also includes Bo Mellon and Savion as deep contributors who can make plays.

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Daniel Jones

PositiveInjury0:07

Jones tore his Achilles in Week 14 against the Jags and signed a two-year, $88 million deal in March in part because of the Colts' 7-1 start; he participated in mandatory minicamp individual drills and said he'll be working on running faster, cutting harder, and progressing; when asked if he'll be ready to be the Week 1 starter, he answered without hesitation with a one-word answer: absolutely; the question with quarterbacks coming off Achilles is how effective they'll be out of the gate, but Jones is younger and has been unbelievable in attacking his rehab, making it a surprise if he's not ready Week 1.

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DJ Turner

PositiveBreakout24:11

DJ Turner stood out as Cincinnati's number one corner in his first opportunity in a big role last season and is having a strong spring. In the final year of his contract, Turner chose to participate in workouts rather than sit out, signaling commitment to elevating his game. Cam Wolfe reports that position coach Charlie Burke wants Turner to evolve into one of the elite top-five corners in football, with Turner's ability to shadow receivers in one-on-one coverage being key to the Bengals' Super Bowl contention.

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Geno Smith

NegativeInjury0:11

The Davie, Florida Police Department said battery accusations levied against Jets quarterback Geno Smith were not an active case, but they have announced the situation is under investigation; Smith has neither been arrested nor charged.

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George Kittle

NegativeRole31:33

George Kittle is hosting Tight End University at Vanderbilt's new stadium with 90 current and former tight ends and 2,500 fans in attendance. Kittle is sharing his time with quarterbacks Brock Purdy and Matt Jones, and the event features instruction from Tony Gonzalez, Kyle Juszczyk, and former tight ends coach John Embry, who coached both Gonzalez and Kittle.

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George Pickens

NegativeValue43:03

George Pickens is the only remaining player on a franchise tag as of mid-July, with contract negotiations still pending. His tag status represents one of the final major free agent/contract situations heading into the season.

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Jalen Carter

PositiveRole28:00

Jalen Carter is part of the Philadelphia Eagles' defensive line alongside Jonathan Grunard and Jordan Davis. Grunard described Carter as someone who brings energy every single day with humbleness, and the two feed off each other to create a disruptive force on the defensive line.

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Jayden Daniels

NegativeInjury0:08

Daniels had a rough 2024 season with multiple injuries that led him to miss 10 games, including a dislocated elbow that caused the Commanders to shut him down for the final three games; he doesn't even want to talk about the season; however, Dan Quinn said Daniels is doing well and is healthy, and he's become a much more vocal quarterback in expressing what he wants out of the offense; the Commanders have revamped the offense hoping Daniels can return to the brilliance of his rookie season.

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Joe Burrow

PositiveProjection27:12

Joe Burrow is healthy and ready to go for the 2026 season. Adam Rank highlighted Burrow's recent comments comparing the Bengals to his 2019 LSU championship team, noting the key difference is that his LSU team had a stronger defense. Rank emphasized that the Bengals are Super Bowl contenders if their defense can be at least average, with Burrow's health being critical to the team's success.

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Jonathan Greenard

PositiveRole27:30

Jonathan Grunard was traded to the Philadelphia Eagles and is healthy after ending last season with a shoulder injury. He is excited to play alongside Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis, describing the defensive line trio as a disruptive force. Grunard praised both Carter and Davis's physical traits and work ethic, indicating he will be a key part of the Eagles' defensive line rotation alongside other contributors like Moe Jomo.

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Jordan Davis

PositiveRole28:00

Jordan Davis is a key member of the Philadelphia Eagles' defensive line alongside Jalen Carter and Jonathan Grunard. Grunard described Davis as a quiet type who can turn it on at any point, and the two feed off each other to create a disruptive defensive presence.

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Jordan Love

PositiveProjection0:15

Watson describes Jordan Love as finding ways to get better at things he's already been great at; Love's consistency is improving even further, and his biggest strength is bringing the guys around him along—his energy and vibe elevate the entire offense, with the team getting better in the offseason because of his leadership.

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Kyle Juszczyk

NegativeRole32:00

Kyle Juszczyk is teaching at Tight End University, focusing on the fullback position, which many tight ends are now playing in modern offenses.

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Kyle Pitts

PositiveValue0:04

Pitts signed a three-year contract worth up to $54 million with the first two years containing $36 million fully guaranteed, equating to $18 million average per year if all three years are completed.

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PositiveProjection26:21

Kyle Pitts signed an extension with the Atlanta Falcons. Adam Rank expressed enthusiasm about Pitts' fantasy outlook, drawing a comparison to Kevin Stefanski's success developing tight ends like David Njoku and Harold Finnin Jr., suggesting Pitts could benefit from similar scheme optimization under Stefanski's offense.

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PositiveRole43:12

Kyle Pitts is part of Atlanta's young skill player core alongside other offensive weapons, with the team having secured quarterback play. Pitts' contract extension signals the Falcons' commitment to building around him as a centerpiece of their offense.

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PositiveValue44:12

Kyle Pitts signed a three-year, $54 million contract extension with the Falcons, re-signed by executive Matt Ryan. This represents significant financial commitment and security for the tight end position, validating his role in Atlanta's offense going forward.

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Matthew Golden

PositiveBreakout0:15

Golden is entering his second year with the Packers and Watson believes the world hasn't seen a fraction of what he's capable of; with more opportunities, Golden is expected to show significantly more production than he displayed in his rookie year.

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Michael Penix Jr.

NegativeInjury0:09

Penix is working his way back from a torn ACL suffered in Week 11, which is his third ACL tear in seven years; he was in a great mood during mandatory minicamp and said he'd be ready to go right now if they allowed him; however, there's more pressure on him to get back because the Falcons brought in Tua Tunga-Vailoa, meaning Penix could be fighting for his starting job; he was drafted by a prior regime and everyone involved in that pick is now out of the building with Kevin Stefanski coming in.

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Parker Washington

PositiveRole23:00

Parker Washington was a revelation late in the 2025 season as a playmaking option in space and is expected to continue receiving usage in that role. Cam Wolfe reports Washington had a great spring and will be difficult to take off the field for the Jacksonville offense, projecting him as one of the two leading receivers in Jacksonville alongside Brian Thomas Jr.

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Patrick Mahomes

NegativeInjury0:06

Mahomes tore his LCL and ACL in Week 15 and had surgery on December 15th; he was out at mandatory minicamp doing individual drills but not fully participating; he said he's trying to use the fact that he can't be mobile right now to his advantage by forcing himself to sit in the pocket and make his reads; Andy Reid said Mahomes has absolutely attacked his rehab but will only be able to do some things during training camp, indicating cautious approach with the highest-paid player in NFL history.

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Travis Kelce

NegativeRole32:00

Travis Kelce is mentioned as part of Tight End University, with George Kittle noting that Kelce talks about the top of his route, sharing technique instruction with younger tight ends.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00This is an iHeart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. That's all on the Insiders starting right now.
0:04Hey everybody, welcome to a Tuesday edition of the Insiders.
0:07Patrick Klebbon here in the newsroom with Tom Pellissero, our NFL Network Insider.
0:11And we are in missing woman formation because Judy Batista is there via remote.
0:15But Judy, one day we are going to effort you out here to be with us on the Insiders.
0:21The problem with travel is sometimes you're in the air like Tom was today and news breaks.
0:26And this was new today coming into the newsroom during Tom's travels.
0:29The NFL announced Tuesday it will not be a good day.
0:33Will not in fact be holding a supplemental draft this year means former Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby is ineligible to play in the league in 2026.
0:41Tom, it was a lengthy letter going out to Sorsby detailing some of the decision making.
0:45Some of that was very firmly worded as to why they made this decision.
0:49Patrick, this is a very complicated situation. Many ways it is an unprecedented situation, but the legal rationale is pretty straightforward.
0:56Under the collective bargaining agreement, the NFL has the sole authority to decide whether it's a whether to hold a supplemental draft in any given year.
1:03And based on a variety of different circumstances, the league felt it was not in their best interest to do so.
1:10There's a ton to unpack in terms of Sorsby who went away to handle a gambling addiction back in the spring, had a fight with the NCAA.
1:17He was ineligible. Then he was eligible. Dropped the lawsuit, ends up applying to the supplemental draft.
1:22Even if the NFL had time to unpack all of that and get the information that clubs need, they felt like it
1:29would create a lot of noise right before the start of training camps.
1:33It's their option. They decided not to go that direction.
1:36Of course, Patrick, you mentioned the very strong wording in that letter in part, essentially saying that the application from Sorsby and
1:42his representatives was insufficient and lacked evidence. Well, the office of his attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, released a lengthy statement a short time ago, basically firing back against that.
1:50We'll make you read every word that's on the screen right there.
1:54But basically saying, we gave you the opportunity. We asked, do you need any more information?
1:59The NFL said no. Therefore, they decided that they were in the clear.
2:03We're going to be able to move forward. It did not work out that direction.
2:07Kessler has been in consultation with the NFL PA, but it's my understanding the union has not decided how or even if
2:13there's legal justification to get involved in the Brennan Sorsby case.
2:17The other line in that letter from the NFL and Larry Ferrazani to Brennan Sorsby today that stuck out was the very last one.
2:24And it said in part that he can work toward the possible inclusion in the 2027 NFL draft.
2:29Here's my understanding on that piece. As it sits here right now, Brennan Sorsby is eligible.
2:34He is not banished. He doesn't need to go through some separate application process.
2:38Obviously, Judy, if there were some type of additional issue between now and April, that would, in many ways, handle itself and
2:44teams could draw their own evaluations on that. But as it stands right now, Brennan Sorsby is set to be eligible in
2:51a very, very talented quarterback class in 2027. Well, this letter that the NFL sent to Sorsby read very much like saying
2:57you cannot use the NFL as your get out of jail free card.
3:01They basically said you were ineligible in the NCAA and then you decided you were just going to go into the supplemental draft.
3:08You can't do that. You gave us only three days to review your case.
3:12Then they went deeply into the issue of gambling, saying you didn't show any accountability.
3:16You didn't show any contrition. You didn't indicate how you would make sure that this would not happen again, that you would
3:23not be caught gambling in the NFL. Well, don't forget the NFL has suspended players, Calvin Ridley, for gambling violations that were
3:29much less than what Sorsby did while he was in college betting on his own team.
3:34And so the NFL is basically saying you can't use us to get out of punishment that you should have served in the NCAA.
3:41What does this mean for Sorsby? Well, he's got a few options.
3:45Certainly they can pursue the legal route. They did that in college, so it certainly wouldn't be out of the norm for
3:51them to go to court and see if they can do something in court against the NFL.
3:56But the other option failing that is that he takes a year.
4:00Maybe he plays in Canada. He can't play in the NCAA.
4:03Maybe he plays in Canada. Maybe he just takes a year and gets ready on his own privately for the draft.
4:09And as you mentioned, the 2027 class is a loaded class at quarterback.
4:13That is what we expect. He would be one of them.
4:16This is not over, I don't think, for Sorsby.
4:19I certainly think there are going to be some machinations by Jeffrey Kessler to see if they can change the direction of this now, Patrick.
4:26Yeah, and we'll discuss some of those possible machinations coming up later on in our show.
4:31You mentioned the CFL, Judy. They're already in week four of the UFL.
4:35Congratulations to Louisville. They already celebrated their championship earlier this month, so the options are getting a little bit more limited.
4:41Let's get to a former top five pick that was drafted into the NFL.
4:45That is Kyle Pitts. Got some contract news for him today.
4:48This coming from NFL Network insider Ian Rappaport. They franchise tag Kyle Pitts earlier in the offseason.
4:53Now there's a three-year deal. Could be worth up to $54 million.
4:57The first two, according to Ian, $36 million fully guaranteed.
5:00If you go by percentage of average per year, the annual percentage average, you get Kyle Pitts at $18 million.
5:06And that's what things would work out if all three of those years happen.
5:10Also, congratulations going out to the Buffalo Bills. They cut the ribbon before the opening of the new Highmark Stadium right around
5:16three years after breaking ground on the facility that's across the street from the old stadium.
5:21The estimated price tag north of $2 billion. Congratulations to those in upstate New York.
5:26Bo Nix ended the Bills season and his own at the same time with that win in the divisional round as he
5:32fractured his right ankle in what would be the game-winning drive.
5:35Nick's one of a few quarterbacks rehabbing this offseason.
5:38Let's discuss those QBs with our Sarah Walsh joining us on the Insider.
5:42Sarah, a few marquee guys, marquee names in the AFC starting with Bo Nix.
5:46Yeah, and that clock is ticking. We'll start in Denver because that's where I am, where Bo Nix is.
5:51And, you know, he participated in that mandatory minicamp, not the team drills, the individual portion of which he was allowed.
5:58But if you want to take the temperature of how he's feeling, he joked about the fact that his only concern right
6:04now is that perhaps he's even more mobile than before because he said that ankle is as good as new.
6:10You mentioned when he got hurt against the Bills in the playoffs and then he had a second surgery in April.
6:16That was to deal with some bone spurs. But he is doing great.
6:20Sean Payton said his quarterback will clearly be ready.
6:23And by the way, Nix has never missed a regular season snap in his NFL career.
6:27Now, Nix is going to open the season on Monday Night Football against a division rival and against a quarterback who is
6:34also trying to make a comeback from season-ending surgery.
6:37That would be Patrick Mahomes, who tore his LCL and his ACL in Week 15.
6:41He had surgery on December 15th. Much like Nix, he was out there at mandatory minicamp, not fully participating but doing individual drills.
6:48And he said he tried to use that to his advantage, the fact that he can't be mobile right now.
6:54So he said it forces him to sit in the pocket to make his reads.
6:58Now, Andy Reid has said that he has absolutely attacked his rehab.
7:02But Reid also said that he will be able to do, quote, some things during training camp.
7:07And what that tells you is that they're going to obviously be very cautious with the man that they made the highest paid player in NFL history.
7:15Another quarterback that is trying to come back from season-ending injury and also got paid, that would be Daniel Jones, who got
7:21a two-year, $88 million deal in March. And that's in part because of how the Colts started last season.
7:27A tremendous start led by Jones. They started 7-1, and then things started to unravel.
7:31But it was Week 14 when he tore his Achilles.
7:34I was at that game against the Jags, and that was really the dagger in the Colts' season.
7:39And Jones out there participating during mandatory minicamp and the individual drills, he said what he's going to be working on from
7:46now until the time training camp starts, running faster, cutting harder, and progressing.
7:50But when he was asked if he's going to be ready to be the Week 1 starter, Tom Pellicero, he answered without hesitation.
7:56It was a one-word answer. He said absolutely. The question with quarterbacks coming off Achilles is just how effective are you going to be out of the gate?
8:05We've seen the likes of Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins, where it can take months, if not an entire season, to get back to 100%.
8:12The difference is Daniel Jones is a younger guy.
8:15Everything that I've heard from that building is he's been unbelievable in terms of attacking his rehab.
8:20The time that he is spending on task here still remains to be seen again, Patrick.
8:24They'll be cautious here, but based upon what Daniel Jones was doing through the course of the spring, it'd be a surprise
8:31if he's not ready to roll Week 1. Yeah, incredible bounce back considering the volume of injuries he was dealing with.
8:37The volume of injuries a problem. As we go to the NFC, Sarah, for Jaden Daniels, elbow injury, a part of a
8:43season that was so bad, Jaden doesn't even want to talk about it, Sarah.
8:48Let's start with him and the NFC. Yeah, you can't blame him.
8:51Your two was not kind of Jaden Daniels, and you mentioned the elbow injury.
8:55There was multiple injuries that led him to miss 10 games, and then finally the commanders, you mentioned the dislocated elbow.
9:01They just shut him down for the final three games of the season.
9:05When I talked to Dan Quinn this offseason, he told me that Daniels is doing well, that he is healthy, that he's
9:12actually a much more vocal quarterback in expressing what he wants out of this offense.
9:16This is going to be a revamped commander's offense as they hope that Daniels can return to the brilliance.
9:22We saw his rookie season where things get really interesting.
9:25We know Daniels is going to be in charge.
9:27This is his team. Down south, that is not the same story.
9:31And what Michael Penix Jr. is dealing with as he's trying to work his way back from a torn ACL suffered in week 11.
9:38That is the third ACL tear he's had in seven years.
9:41So he knows what it's like to try to rehab and come back from that.
9:46He was in a great mood during their mandatory minicamp, said that he would be ready to go right now if only they would allow him.
9:53Obviously, they're going to be careful with him. But there's a little bit more pressure on him, right, to get back because they brought in Tua Tunga-Vailoa.
10:01So Penix could be fighting for his starting job there.
10:04And quarterbacks coaching Atlanta, Alex Van Pelt said, obviously, they're going to be asked all the time, who's your starter?
10:10He said they can't begin to start evaluating that until these quarterbacks are competing at the same level, which they haven't been doing yet.
10:17But you better believe of all the quarterbacks, Tom, that we just discussed, it's Penix Jr.
10:22that's in a little bit of a different situation when it comes to the pressure of trying to return.
10:27Also important to remember, Michael Penix Jr. was drafted by a prior regime.
10:31Everybody involved in that pick is now out of the building.
10:35Kevin Stefanski coming in, obviously Matt Ryan being a part of the decision-making process, along with their GM, Ian Cunningham.
10:40They bring in Tua on a minimum deal. The Dolphins are paying him the other $53 million that he has owed this season.
10:47We've seen Tua play at a pretty high level when he's been 100%.
10:51He played at a high level last year, despite his eye being partly swollen shut from that allergic reaction or whatever he had in Atlanta in that game.
10:59We've talked so much about Kyler Murray. What can he do for himself before he hits the market again in 2027?
11:05Don't overlook the possibility, Patrick. The Tua with the opportunity to get those reps on tape the whole offseason when Michael Penix Jr.
11:12was not able to, maybe he's given himself a little bit of a leg up, at least entering camp.
11:18Yeah, and we saw why Michael Penix Jr. probably pushing to get some of those 11-on-11 reps as Tua comes closer and closer to taking that job.
11:26An update on quarterback injuries with our very own Sarah Walsh.
11:29Thank you, Sarah. Let's go to the Jets, where the Davie, Florida Police Department said this week battery accusations levied against Jets
11:36quarterback Geno Smith were not an active case. But today they have announced the situation is under investigation.
11:41Smith has neither been arrested or charged. A meeting of the tight end minds.
11:45Tight end you in the second half of its first decade.
11:48We'll hear from founding member George Kittle coming up later on on this edition of the Insiders.
11:53And Christian Watson bounced back to have an explosive return from injury.
11:57So what does a start look like when he doesn't have to do all that?
12:01He tells us when we come back on the inside.
12:04Shotgun snap to Lovey, bobbles for a moment. Now lofts it right side of the end zone.
12:09Watson leaping grab. Oh, sensational touchdown catch. It's Christian Watson.
12:12My oh. They beat Corey Black. And Christian Watson used every bit of his 6'4 frame to go up and grab that one.
12:19All right. What a bounce back season for Christian Watson.
12:22Just nine months after having ACL surgery. He's back.
12:24He's back on the Insiders. Thanks for spending time with us, Christian.
12:28A lot of changes going on in Green Bay.
12:31How's your offseason been? It's been real smooth. Obviously, you know, a blessing to be able to have a normal offseason this
12:37offseason, not, you know, rehabbing or doing anything crazy.
12:40So just, you know, grateful to just have a smooth and, you know, normal offseason.
12:44It's been really good though. Obviously, you came back and played last year following the knee injury, but you've had a smooth offseason.
12:51You've had a healthy offseason. How much different does your body feel right now than it did even when you were playing at the end of last season?
12:59Just a whole lot better for sure. I mean, obviously, you know, you know, it seems like, you know, obviously not having
13:06done, you know, football for nine months and everything.
13:08It seems like, you know, you'd be feeling, you know, pretty good.
13:12But, you know, obviously just the amount of work and everything that you have to put in, you know, legs were feeling
13:18heavy, you know, my first game back, you know, and everything.
13:22So, you know, definitely feeling a lot better. You know, obviously, I've gotten, you know, able to recover the body, you know, to a really good point.
13:30And, you know, obviously just, you know, just focused on, you know, football specific stuff now throughout this offseason.
13:35And, you know, I'm feeling feeling really, really good.
13:38As far as the team, Christian, because you've always had that continuity at the top with Coach LaFleur.
13:43But the changes in the wide receiver room, is this the biggest amount of change you've experienced since your arrival in Green Bay?
13:50Yeah, it definitely is. You know, I wouldn't say that, you know, it's too, too big of a change.
13:55And I mean, it definitely, you know, isn't, you know, for me specifically, you know, it haven't been, you know, a coach
14:02that I have, you know, been coached by in the past, you know, in college.
14:06But, yeah, no, it's definitely, you know, different. You know, the whole, the wide receiver room as a whole, you know, with
14:13the guys that have left, you know, the coaching obviously is similar.
14:16But, you know, the wide receiver room is definitely different.
14:19But, you know, I think that, you know, it'll be different in good ways as well.
14:24So I'm excited to, I'm excited to see where our room goes this year.
14:28What should we expect from this wide receiver group?
14:31You've obviously seen some glimpses during the offseason work.
14:33What should we be looking for when the season starts?
14:36Just an explosive and dynamic room. You know, I think that, you know, obviously, you know, we have, you know, me and
14:43Jay Reed who have, you know, played, you know, a significant amount of snaps, you know, with the Packers.
14:48You know, obviously, I feel like, you know, everyone knows what to expect from us.
14:53You know, obviously, you know, we're going to make plays when our number is called.
14:57And then you have guys like, you know, Matthew Golden who are, you know, coming, he's coming into his second year.
15:04You know, I don't think that we saw, you know, a fraction of what he's capable of, you know, last year.
15:10I think, you know, the more opportunities he gets, the more, you know, the world's going to know exactly who he is.
15:16So, you know, I'm excited for that. You know, obviously, and, you know, beyond, you know, even MG, we have a deep
15:23room of a bunch of guys who can make plays, you know, Bo Mellon, Savion.
15:27You know, I feel like we're going to have a really solid group this year for sure.
15:32And, of course, another season of Jordan Love. As you guys have been able to grow and mature together, what has Jordan added to his game?
15:40Where do you think you've seen the most improvement?
15:42Honestly, I just feel like he just finds a way to, you know, get better at the things that, you know, he's already been great at.
15:50You know, I think that, you know, his, you know, consistency, you know, is, you know, somehow finding, you know, ways to get even better.
15:57You know, I feel like he's always been kind of the anchor of the offense in terms of, you know, his poise and his consistency.
16:05You know, since he's got the starting job, he just finds ways to continue to build on that even more.
16:11You know, his, I think that his biggest strength is just bringing the guys around him along.
16:16You know, I feel like we all just kind of, you know, lean on his energy, lean on his vibe.
16:22And he kind of just brings, you know, everybody else up with him.
16:25I think that's definitely his biggest strong suit. And I feel like, you know, we've gotten a lot better in this offseason because of it.
16:33You know, the Packers were rolling early last season.
16:35And then obviously at the end, Micah gets hurt.
16:38It slides. It ends in a devastating way. All of those losses in a row.
16:42How much, even with time having passed, how much does that fuel the team going into next season?
16:48I mean, it's definitely, it's definitely fueling us 100%.
16:50I mean, obviously, you know, we'd like to, you know, move on from those things, but I mean, you know, it's hard
16:57to move on from, you know, the reason, you know, behind losing those games.
17:01And I mean, I think it really just comes down to not being able to finish, you know, in crucial, you know,
17:08moments, you know, in crucial games, just not being able to finish.
17:11So I think that, you know, that's been a huge staple for us in terms of our mindset throughout this offseason of
17:18just, you know, consistently, you know, finishing, finishing everything, finishing every drill, every practice, you know, every play.
17:23You know, we've got to be able to, you know, build on that and carry that into this training camp and, you
17:29know, start the season that way so we can finish it that way.
17:33I think, you know, finish is a big emphasis for us this year.
17:37Well, coming back and finishing rehab, you've certainly set the path.
17:40Hopefully Tucker and Micah will be able to recover and return as well as you did.
17:45And Christian, we're also looking forward to your camp in your hometown coming up later this month.
17:50What can you tell us? Yeah, no, just excited.
17:53I'm excited. This is, you know, the first time that I'm, you know, I'm holding a camp in Tampa.
17:58So, you know, I'm excited to just, you know, be able to put something on at home.
18:03You know, obviously I want to, I want to be involved in my community as much as I can.
18:09You know, obviously it hasn't, you know, worked out in past years, you know, just with, you know, injuries, rehab and, you
18:15know, just stuff I've been doing that way. But, you know, just excited to get involved with the community a little bit,
18:22you know, throw something, you know, for the kids, let the kids run around, have a good time.
18:27And, you know, just, just get more involved. You know, I think that it's, that's going to be a big part of,
18:34you know, my life outside the field. You know, going forward is going to be, you know, the impact that I can
18:40have on my community and my hometown. So I'm excited to, to get it done this weekend, you know, Saturday at 10
18:47o'clock, you know, have a hundred kids running around and having a good time at playing high school in Tampa, Florida.
18:53Love that. And love that it's open for all ages, between six and 12 boys and girls.
18:58Christian, thanks for giving back to the community. And thanks for spending time with us here on the Insiders.
19:03Thanks, man. Thank you for having me. This is what's new today coming into the NFL LA newsroom.
19:09Kyle Pitts gets a new deal. It's three years worth up to $54 million.
19:1336 of those first two years are fully guaranteed.
19:15Congratulations to Kyle Pitts. And in a letter today to former Cincinnati and Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Soresby, NFL representative said Soresby's
19:22litigation efforts against the NCAA to avoid sanctions don't provide a basis for the league to have a supplemental draft.
19:28And as he was the only player seeking entry in a supplemental draft, there will be no supplemental draft.
19:33We're back here with our NFL Network Insiders, Tom Palacero and Judy Batista.
19:37Tom, so I guess the only draft he can look forward to is in 2027.
19:42And this was how it was supposed to play out when Brendan Soresby was going to play at Texas Tech this year.
19:48He factored in as one of the key figures in what NFL executives have anticipated being one of the most talented quarterback
19:55drafts we have had in recent NFL history. Arch Manning, highly regarded as a top prospect, of course, from the Manning family there at Texas.
20:02Dante Moore, if he had come out of Oregon in this past draft, I talked to scouts and coaches who would have
20:08had him rated pretty close to Fernando Mendoza, maybe even being the number one pick.
20:13You got Jaden Maiava, you got Julian Sane, you got other big names in this draft as well, like Trinidad Shabalos at Ole Miss.
20:20Brendan Soresby has all the ability, the talent. It's a matter of how do you develop him?
20:25How do you get him ready to play in an NFL offense?
20:28Teams were scrambling a little bit. They've done a lot of homework, Judy.
20:32Last fall, in anticipation, he might have come out in the 2026 draft.
20:36Now, a little bit more time in terms of the evaluation, even if there is no more tape to evaluate before next day.
20:43Well, we've likely got quite a few more steps before we can turn our attention to the 2027 draft.
20:48Jeffrey Kessler, who is the super lawyer who is representing Soresby in this case, who has been a thorn in the side of the NFL over the years.
20:57He has negotiated CBAs on behalf of the NFL.
20:59PA came out and said that this decision was a violation of the CBA and that they would take the case to the NFL PA.
21:07Okay. Soresby is not a member of the NFL PA yet because he hasn't been drafted and he hasn't signed a free agent contract.
21:14So he is not covered under the CBA. The question is, would the NFL PA step up on his behalf and challenge this decision by the NFL?
21:22Let's be clear, though. The NFL has asserted the authority.
21:25They changed their own personal conduct policy a couple of years ago to assert the authority to discipline players for infractions they committed in college.
21:32They reserve the right to do that. We will see how it plays out.
21:36But certainly there are a number of steps before we can turn our attention to the 2027 draft and Soresby.
21:42Yeah. And as you mentioned, Judy, the history of Jeffrey Kessler and the NFL's litigation, so long and storied that we don't
21:49even use the gate suffix anymore, part of multiple gates, the bounty gate, the flake gate.
21:53And this one, thankfully, has no gate attached. And we're not going yet to do that.
21:58Oh, no. Let's get to Campbell. There's no gate involved here.
22:01This is the Wolf of Ball Street as Campbell joins us on the insiders.
22:05We're looking towards some guys who really broke out during the spring.
22:09Who can achieve superstar status based on your reporting coming up this offseason, Cam?
22:13Patrick, let's start the Wolf of Ball Street in Jacksonville, where there's been a lot of talk of wide receiver usage.
22:19But the two best players I've been told by multiple people on the staff in minicamp in the spring, Brian Thomas Jr.
22:26and Parker Washington. Those are my two guys to watch.
22:29This is a Jaguars offense that was really good over the second half of the year.
22:33They could be even better in year two under Liam Cohen.
22:37Brian Thomas had a disappointing second season. I'm told that he really has come back on this spring, really focusing on the mental element.
22:44Trevor Lawrence has talked about how they were off chemistry a lot last season.
22:48A huge step being made in there. One source told me night and day, look for Brian Thomas to be used a
22:54lot down the field on vertical routes. They think that's where he can really take that next step.
23:00The other guy I mentioned, Parker Washington. He was a revelation late in the season as a playmaking guy open in space.
23:06Continue to expect his usage there. He's had a great spring, too.
23:10And he's going to be a guy that's going to be hard to take off the field for this Jacksonville offense.
23:16And look, they're going to do a lot of sub packages with two tight ends and different reps.
23:21Travis Hunter is still going to get some time.
23:24Jacoby Meyer is still going to get some time.
23:26But don't be surprised if Brian Thomas Jr. and Parker Washington are two leading receivers in Jacksonville.
23:31Next, let's go to Philadelphia, where Rick Woolen is my pick here.
23:35He has had a splashy spring, getting his hands on the ball, a lot of pass breakups, and what has been described
23:41to me as a dominant spring for the defense in Philly.
23:45And they've been waiting for that cornerback to fill in opposite Quinion Mitchell and Cooper Dejean into Rick Woolen, who had already
23:51had a productive 25 season, but had to answer some questions about off-field stuff, some maturity.
23:56He has an opportunity to have a big, big season and set himself up in free agency.
24:01I had one coach ask me, how did we get this guy for $12 million after the spring he has?
24:07Picture him in that secondary with Q and Cooper Dejean.
24:10This could be the best cornerback trio in the NFL.
24:13And finally, let's go to another cornerback in Cincinnati in DJ Turner, a guy who really stood out as the number one
24:19corner last year in his first opportunity to the big role.
24:22He's also having a strong spring. He's in the final year of his contract.
24:26He could have chose to sit out workouts, but he wanted to come and take his game to the next level.
24:33And he's got a really good position coach in Charlie Burke that wants him to evolve into one of the elite top five corners in football.
24:40How does he get there? He's got to elevate that defense with him.
24:44He's got to help change how we talk about the Bengals' defense.
24:48I've mentioned them all offseason as a Super Bowl contender.
24:51If the defense can be at least average, DJ Turner's coming off a year where he had a lot of one-on-one coverage, shadowing receivers, doing it excellent.
24:59Can he do that again in a wide-open AFC North and help the Bengals be that Super Bowl contender that Joe Burrow believes they are?
25:06Keep an eye on guys that are poised for breakouts.
25:09It's Cam Wolfe. It is our Wolf of Ball Street spending time with us here on The Insiders.
25:14Thank you, Cam. One of those defenses he mentioned, the Philadelphia Eagles.
25:18They got a huge addition. Jonathan Grenard, he compares and contrasts Vic Fangio and Brian Flores in an interview with me and
25:24Judy Batista coming up next on The Inside. Let's look at some of the recent contract extensions for some of the best defensive linemen in the NFL.
25:32Three of these guys have something in common. Will Anderson Jr.
25:35started his career in Houston with Jonathan Grenard. Jordan Davis is a new teammate of Jonathan Grenard, and Jonathan Grenard is now on our show.
25:43He has something in common with JG because he's Jonathan Grenard.
25:46He's on The Insiders, the new Philadelphia Eagle. Thanks for spending time with us.
25:50Congratulations on the deal, on the trade. I say new Eagle.
25:53Does it still feel new even this far after the trade and you arriving in Philadelphia?
25:58Yeah, man. Football is football, but every time you get to go play for a franchise like this, man, it definitely gets you more excited.
26:05Obviously, you get a chance to continue to climb that ladder as an NFL player to get to that ultimate ring.
26:12But, man, I'm blessed. I'm just glad to be able to be playing again my love as a kid and not for an organization like this.
26:19You obviously ended last season with an injury. I know you did some individual work this offseason.
26:24You didn't do the team stuff. How's the shoulder feeling, and where do you think you're going to be by the time training camp opens?
26:32Yeah, shoulder's good. They just took some precautionary stuff, you know, back when during OTAs and I didn't need to be doing all the extra fire stuff.
26:40But I could if I need to. But, shoot, I'm ready to go whenever it's time to strap the helmet up.
26:46And looking back to last, the way things ended and the trade process and navigating all of that, when you finally found
26:52out that you were going to be an Eagle, I heard that you had to make a quick trip to the airport to even make it all possible.
27:01But what was that process like for you? Yeah, it was crazy.
27:04Once it all went through, I got the call from Howie and realized that, hey, it's really real.
27:09How is the Florida guy as well? So definitely that was some mutual friendships in that aspect.
27:14But, yeah, I had to get on a quick flight.
27:17I literally was taking a nap with my wife.
27:20Now I'm about to be five months old son.
27:23And I literally had to jet an hour and some change to the airport to catch a flight.
27:28And I was going to leave in about an hour and 30 minutes.
27:32You know what I mean? So I literally had to run through there.
27:36Somehow I was able to get through there. But, you know, what's for me is for me, man.
27:41And I knew that me making that flight, I knew I was in the right spot.
27:46You've talked about how excited you are to play with Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis.
27:50Like, what do you envision that that's going to be like when you're on the field with those guys?
27:56Yeah, man, it's going to be a disruption. I think those two guys can destroy and take over a game at any
28:02point in time, just knowing that they're physical traits.
28:05But, you know, just being around the guys so far in OTAs, man, it's just been pretty cool just to get a
28:11feel for how they are as human beings outside of football.
28:14And they're great guys. I mean, J.D. is already, you know who you're going to get.
28:19He's going to bring the energy every single day.
28:22But humbleness about him as well. J.C. is that quiet type of, you know, he can easily turn it on at any point in time.
28:29But those two together, man, they just feed off each other.
28:32And I told those guys, I'm going to just feed off of y'all and just add what y'all have already built here.
28:39So, having those two guys there to obviously hold it down.
28:42And obviously guys like Moe Jomo as well, he's going to be doing his thing.
28:47So, I'm excited just in totality for our D-line to disrupt some games and win some games for us.
28:52Jonathan, looking back at your career, you've been under some great defensive minds.
28:56Can you kind of compare and contrast these last two between Brian Flores and now Vic Fangio?
29:01Yeah. I mean, they're two masterminds of just trying to have the pin last when it comes to defensive play calling.
29:07They're going to try to take away your best option out the way every time.
29:12Make you beat us in a different variety of ways.
29:15While also still keeping it straight up to make sure we can just, hey, play line up and play football as well.
29:21So, having a D.C. like him now, you can kind of already understand how he wants to take over games and how to trick with the opponents.
29:29He loves to put guys in good positions that have better matchups against certain guys, similar to Flo as well.
29:35Flo, he's going to send it however many ways he possibly can.
29:38Same with Vic. I just think it's pretty cool to kind of see how they both model their games, you know, to
29:45their respected, you know, mentors or guys that model their schemes off of.
29:49But to have both of those guys, you know, know how to use their guys and have done it at a high level for a long time.
29:57And I'm definitely excited to be able to be a part of this team for sure.
30:01I wonder what your initial interactions have been with Nick Sirianni because he comes across as intense, at least from the outside.
30:08Pretty intense guy. Pretty excitable. What have you gleaned from being around him these first few months?
30:13Yeah. You know, one thing I can respect the most is when we, when I first met him, he doesn't like to blow smoke on people's ass.
30:21Excuse me. I don't know if he blows a cussler.
30:24But he's just not one of those guys. I mean, he's going to give it to you straight up.
30:29He's just going to demand the best out of every single person in that building.
30:34Nothing goes unnoticed. They're always watching everything, evaluating everything.
30:36He's very intense. I mean, I've seen him just from the outside looking in and I'm like, yeah, I mean, I love
30:43to play for a guy like that. I mean, because if he's like that already, he's going to be passionate about you
30:49when you step between those white lines. So every coach that knows me knows that.
30:54Listen, when I'm bought all into the coaches, man, I run through a brick wall for him.
30:59So definitely looking forward to building that. And I've kind of already started doing that in our little short time period in OTAs.
31:06But man, it's going to be another great season.
31:08I mean, he's a great coach in the work, speaks for us.
31:12And Jonathan, I think the people in the region are completely fine with that level of swearing.
31:17It's going to be fine as you ingratiate yourself to the community.
31:20But you got a chance coming up here on the 26th to get back home with your third annual 7-on-7 camp.
31:27Can you tell us what we're looking forward to?
31:29Yeah, man. I have it. Obviously, it's only my third year, but I started out of my former high school, my alma
31:36mater, and pretty much just kind of growing it that way.
31:39Each year, whoever wins the tournament, they get to host it at their school for a grand prize of $5,000 to the winner.
31:46Each year could go up and go down just based off of how we want to set it up.
31:51But, I mean, each year has been pretty good, and we continue to get the same participation from coaches.
31:57The community loves it. It gives guys that, you know, whether you're playing a 5-8 school, you know how Georgia is, and it might be 8-8.
32:05Whether it's those classifications, got guys in 5-8 and smaller schools like that, they get a chance to play with guys that
32:11are going to be future, you know, all-Americans, future first-round draft picks potentially, you know.
32:15Creekside, Douglas County, and Langston Hughes, Southwest Decap, Wilco coming out of Macon, and, of course, my high school, Hiram.
32:21And those are really a good variety of teams.
32:24You've got teams that have won the state championship in Creekside last year, and guys are trying to get to the playoffs,
32:30or at least just trying to get their guys to be like, hey, listen, if you want to play at a high
32:37level, these are the guys you're going to have to play against.
32:40And I love the competition. Love the exposure for the guys.
32:44It's a great time. We have food out there, music, you know, trees.
32:48So it's like an event we're going to continue to grow every year, but it definitely want to make it like a
32:54family-type environment to where guys, you know, have their families come out and see them play.
32:59And it's right before the dead week they have in high school to where they can't do anything.
33:04So it's pretty much a good segue to get them a little break afterwards where it's kind of lighthearted while still competing.
33:11Yeah, a chance to play with and against the best and a chance to learn from the best as well.
33:16Jonathan Grunard, thanks for spending time with us here on The Insiders.
33:20Good luck to you and the Eagles here in 2026.
33:23Appreciate y'all, man. Have a good one. It's time for Ranks for Nothing with Adam Rank back here with us in studio.
33:29Hey, man. Oh, it's so great to be back in studio with you.
33:33I love it. I'm sorry. I'm wearing a tie.
33:36I know it wasn't supposed to. But you know what?
33:39The time is now to take a look back at some of the things that we learned over the long holiday weekend.
33:45And at number five, Joe Burrow is back. And I think we can all agree that the NFL is better when Joe
33:52Burrow is healthy and ready to go. And recently he told reporters, you go back and watch what I've said before.
33:582019 season at LSU. I feel very similarly about this team.
34:01The only difference being is that my LSU team spent way more on defense than the Bengals.
34:06You go. Yeah. I got it. They did. They would have signed Trey Hendrickson.
34:10All right, let's move on to number four. Number four, Steelers getting used to Mike McCarthy.
34:15That's right. The Steelers conducted off-season workouts with first-year head coach Mike McCarthy.
34:19And while there are some similarities to Mike Tomlin, I don't want to say two.
34:23Two. Right. Two. The shirt meme again. There's no similarities at all.
34:27None? No. Not a little bit? Even the weird AI Mike McCarthy looks nothing like that guy.
34:32All right. Fine, fine, fine. You're right. Back to the shirt meme.
34:35Ah, but the Mike McCarthy tenure in Pittsburgh is a lot like those reality TV DIY shows like Bar Rescue.
34:41Now you have to imagine Mike McCarthy rolling in like John Taffer, yelling at people, removing benches and parking spots, making somebody cry.
34:48And instead of sticking with a concept that made the franchise what it was, he's now trying to shoehorn in another concept
34:55with his own quarterback, like that celebrity chef who comes in and it's failed in other markets.
35:00And you know what? Listen, he had that quarterback back when he was young and actually cared about football.
35:05Those days are over. What you should have done is knock this thing down to the studs, cranked up Renegade on the jukebox and tried something different.
35:13Instead, we're going to get another miserable season from the Steelers and a post-credits scene that says Mike McCarthy was fired after one year with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
35:21Or maybe not. Number three, Brandon Ayuk stays on the offensive.
35:25Speaking of life imitating art. Yeah, I'm calling Bar Rescue art.
35:28It is art. It is art. It is art magic.
35:31Brandon Ayuk continues to take a page out of the Larry David playbook, trying to get fired from the 49ers.
35:37Let me see if I get this straight. A team that is a legitimate playoff contender year in, year out, and he's
35:43looking to get traded to the Commanders. A team that has had as many name changes as playoff appearances over the last decade.
35:50Got it. I get it. I get it. I get it.
35:53Jaden Daniels is good. You both played in Arizona State.
35:56But still, it's something to behold. But if you really want to do this, you got to match the energy of George Costanza.
36:03Maybe run around San Francisco in one of Joe Montana's historic jerseys.
36:06Maybe drag one of the Lombardi trophies. Through the parking lot there or whatever.
36:11But just whatever you do, remember, pools can be very cold.
36:14That's all I'm saying. Yeah. It was in a pool.
36:17Anyways, I do like that for fantasy. And speaking of fantasy, Kyle Pitts has been extended.
36:21That's right. Kyle Pitts is signing an extension with the Atlanta Falcons, which means you're going to listen to me for the
36:28next two months telling you to draft Kyle Pitts on your fantasy deep.
36:32How can you not look at what Kevin Stefanski did for David Njoku, Harold Fannin Jr., and not be excited?
36:38I love talking about Kyle Pitts every single year.
36:40But eventually it gets to the point of Friends references where it's like the one where the show was funny.
36:46At a certain point, the people know you wanted to draft Kyle Pitts, right?
36:50They firmly understand that at this point. But some people might want to pivot.
36:54Okay. Never. Okay. Anyways, NFL players. Number one. NFL players like free stuff.
36:58Yes. Cam Curl says it's crazy that he has to pay full price for World Cup tickets.
37:03By the way, have you ever tried to pay for a Super Bowl ticket, Cam?
37:08Anyways, but you're still Cam Curl. Great player, but you're not Patrick Mahomes.
37:12And even then, we got a glance at just how huge football is, or sorry, American soccer is this week when Cape
37:18Verde goalkeeper Verzina went from 56,000 followers on Instagram to more than 13 million after he made a bunch of saves against Spain.
37:25And that's more than Mahomes. That's more than Travis Kelsey.
37:28That's more than Taylor Swift. No, it's not Taylor Swift.
37:31That's right. Listen, you're Cam Curl, though. Realize, like, you would be surprised that the celebrities were hitting me up for World Cup.
37:37This guy's been hitting me up. Oh, wow. Seriously.
37:40This guy just recently slid in my knees. That's a very famous person hitting up Adam Rank.
37:45Thanks, Rank, for Ranks for Nothing. Back for another year of tight ends gathering for a meeting of the minds and technique at Tight End U.
37:53George Kittle sharing not one, but two of his quarterbacks this year, Brock Purdy and Matt Jones.
37:58He also shared his time with ESPN's Lindsay Theory.
38:00George, you're six of Tight End University. Could you have ever believed it turned into an event this big?
38:06No, I was just trying to get Greg Olson to come, like, teach me some tricks of the trade.
38:12And then it turned into something that continued to grow and grow and grow.
38:16And, I mean, really just a shout out to all the guys who just want to continue to come back.
38:22And now, hey, we're in Vanderbilt's brand new stadium, which is beautiful.
38:25We have fans in the crowd. We have sponsors on the field.
38:29And we're going to have some fun today. I'll tell you that much.
38:33Big, meaning, yeah, 90 guys. Current and former on the field.
38:362,500 fans in the stands. It's pretty cool. What is it that you guys want to kind of get across to some
38:42of these younger players who come out here to learn from you?
38:46Well, you know what was fun? This year we had Tony Gonzalez was up.
38:50He talked. Kyle Juszczyk, because of the fullback position.
38:53A lot of tight ends are playing it now.
38:55And then my old tight ends coach, John Embry, who's been coaching the NFL for like 25 years, coach Tony Gonzalez and myself.
39:02So he's pretty good. And so all I want for these young guys to like take like one thing, anything that you
39:08learn, maybe from Tony Gonzalez's mindset, maybe from Travis talking about the top of his router, me talking about my mindset when I am doing a run play.
39:17It's just like take one thing and just add that to your skill set so it gives you a better chance to become a good player.
39:24You guys are all competitors, obviously. We are. You play against each other a lot of days of the week now.
39:31We do. What made you want to help guys who play for other teams?
39:35Well, like at the end of the day, it's I'm not we're not really like sharing any secrets of like our offenses or tendencies and stuff like that.
39:43Like it's like, all right, what I want to help guys because I want the tight end position to continue to grow.
39:49And I think in the last several years, you've seen more tight ends go to the 12 personnel with two tight ends
39:56and the 13 personnel like the Rams with three tight ends and have a ton of success with it because every time
40:02you have a really good tight end on your roster, you have a great team.
40:07And when you have multiple good tight ends on your roster, you have a playoff team.
40:12So we're just trying to continue to build this position up, make guys help them earn a ton of money and just build us up.
40:1949ers off season. Kyle Shanahan called it an early one, called it a quick one.
40:23Yeah. How awesome was that? You have to tell me how awesome was that?
40:27Thank you, Kyle Shanahan. For you coming off the Achilles injury.
40:31Can you tell us where you are in your recovery?
40:34And are you eyeing a week one return? I am definitely, I'm trying, you know, they, my surgeon, Dr.
40:39Elitros has told me since the start, he goes, if you take it, do everything the right way, you have a chance.
40:46And so I still have a chance. I've had no setbacks.
40:49We're having a good time so far. I mean, I was running this morning.
40:53I do my rehab already this morning. Feels great.
40:56And we're just going to just take it one day at a time.
41:00That's all it is. Injury riddled season for you guys last year.
41:03Let's not do that again. How do you bounce back from that?
41:07Let's keep everybody healthy and just, just stay safe out there, boys.
41:10We can do it. And then George, when you look at the NFC West, you have the Super Bowl champion Seahawks.
41:16You have the Rams who just added a two-time defensive player of the year.
41:20And they still have Matt Stafford. And they still have Matthew Stafford.
41:24He's pretty good. He's pretty good. When you look at the division, what kind of work do you guys have cut out for you?
41:31Oh, I mean, I feel like we've been in one of the toughest divisions for the last five years.
41:37I mean, the Seahawks are always good. They have incredible home field advantage.
41:40The Rams are always super talented. Sean McVay is a genius up there, over there.
41:45He's so good. And we're always talented and super gritty.
41:48And so that's all we have to do is just take advantage of the plays that we have in front of us,
41:54stay as healthy as we can, and just enjoy ourselves.
41:57Have fun out there. Football's a lot easier when you're having fun.
42:01And final one, the season opener is Down Under in Australia.
42:04Yes. How much are you looking forward to, and will you travel to that game?
42:08If I'm playing, I'll be there. Actually, I mean, I'm probably a couple weeks from that conversation.
42:13So I want to be in Melbourne. I can't wait for it.
42:17I've never been to Australia. It's going to be a great time.
42:21I don't know, 15 hours is a great, you know, for your body.
42:24But I do know the experience will be one of a kind.
42:28And I'm going to take full advantage of that.
42:31George, thanks for the time. Enjoy today. You guys enjoy Tide and You.
42:34It's going to be a blast. We will. Thank you.
42:37Well, and I certainly enjoyed Tide and You today.
42:40That's Kyle Pitts going through the gravity drop machine, which is more difficult than it looks.
42:45As we're back here with Judy Bautista and Tom Pessera.
42:48But before we go, Tom, a big deal. And congratulations going out to Kyle Pitts.
42:52No doubt Kyle Pitts, three years, $54 million contract extension.
42:55A guy who started his career playing with Matt Ryan now gets re-signed by executive Matt Ryan to that new deal.
43:01Best news for all of us who cover the news.
43:04July 15th becoming more and more irrelevant because there's only one person left, Judy, who's on a franchise tag.
43:10That is George Pickens. But this is also good news for B.
43:13John Robinson because he is presumably up next with the contract in Atlanta.
43:17They got a lot of young skill players there.
43:20Do they have a quarterback? Yes. We got wide receivers on the show tomorrow.
43:24Tito Atwell joins us. Thanks for watching. This is an iHeart Podcast.
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