0:00There has been a massive shift at the quarterback position in your fantasy football drafts.
0:04Last year, four quarterbacks went in the top four rounds.
0:07This year, just one quarterback drafted right now, Underdog, in the top four rounds.
0:11Hayden, simple question, why? Well, last year they didn't perform very well.
0:15So some of those players, Lamar Jackson, Jayden Daniels got hurt.
0:18Jalen Hurts didn't have quite the same level season.
0:21And I was just looking over at four for four.
0:24They posted quarterback fantasy points by year by, you know, the first player, second player all the way down.
0:29And you can see in 2021 and 2022, quarterback scoring was off the charts.
0:33Even in 2024, quarterback scoring was really high as well, which is why we had this quarterbacks drafted so early.
0:39Then this last year, everything kind of fell off the clip.
0:43I think for the most part, that small sample size noise, Lamar Jackson, Jayden Daniels, Joe Burrow, these guys get hurt.
0:49We're not going to have the same type of finishes.
0:52And at the same time, maybe a little bit of the personnel stuff, a little bit more run heavy, a little less
0:58explosive down down the field because of the two high shell.
1:01I think that accounts for a little bit of it, but I don't think this is going to be like a forever downwind trail here.
1:09I think it's going to be these guys are going to bounce back here.
1:13The hard part is everybody's grouped together. And try to figure out which quarterback three versus quarterback five.
1:18I think that's the difficult part of the season.
1:21We talked about this among the tight end group, how that conversation, how that narrative has changed year to year.
1:26I would say over the last seven years, there's been a big shift in where to draft quarterbacks.
1:32Typically in all of your leagues out there that are redraft that are season long, you know, eight years ago, all about
1:38grabbing the late round guy with rushing upside. Then the entire fancy industry, they all fancy drafters like you got smarter and drafted those guys much earlier.
1:46I know I was in the camp last year of willing to draft only quarterback very, very early on.
1:52I'm not saying that that was wrong. I am saying that I think it's becoming more and more difficult to like find
1:58the one difference maker outside of the top 15 quarterbacks that then becomes a tried and true starter out there for the entire season.
2:05I mean, Drake may was the quarterback 13 last year.
2:08We ranked him even higher than that. And, you know, he finished as one of the top scorers.
2:13And in fact, Trevor Lawrence, I guess, really became that late rounder as they quarterback 19 last year and finished much, much
2:20higher than that for a vast majority of the season.
2:23Yeah. A lot of the guys like the Malik Willis, Kyla Murray tier, who I would kind of qualify as like this year's like sleepers.
2:30There's still, you know, ranks quarterback 14, quarterback 18 in that range.
2:34So I think it's gonna be pretty difficult to find that total freak that came out.
2:38I do think Jackson Dart was that to an extent this last season because he was so dynamic as a rusher.
2:44So rushing is always going to help out here a lot.
2:48I just will say a lot of the top 10 quarterbacks right in the smack in the middle of their primes.
2:54So I think it's a good year to kind of be buying into like the top 15 or so quarterbacks here.
3:00And I'm not doing as much late round quarterback because man, we have to figure out how, how many of Jacoby's percent
3:06starts are we getting the Falcons quarterbacks, those type of guys.
3:10So I'm kind of just hovering at the top.
3:12I'll also add that I believe that coaching changes and specifically offensive coordinator and play caller changes impact quarterback and quarterback scoring more than maybe any other position.
3:21And four of your eight top quarterbacks have changes in that department this year.
3:25So we're going to dive into all of that conversation here today.
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3:46This will surprise no one. Josh Allen is your quarterback one on an island here as a 27th overall player with a
3:52jump to the next one down to 53rd overall.
3:55Why? He's just so consistent over the last four seasons.
3:58This is fantasy points over replacement per game, which is my favorite metric to look by position across positions.
4:04And he's finished 14th overall, 25th, 30th. And then last year, another 30th overall finish is ADP 30th overall.
4:09I don't know how you can argue against it.
4:12He took some more sacks this last year actually wasn't even his best season versus some of the other seasons that he just had.
4:19But in incomes DJ more who we didn't love the price tag that they paid, but DJ more is certainly an upgrade
4:25versus the wide receivers that they had. The offensive line is mostly back.
4:29They're switching out one guy. They're switching out the offensive line coach and obviously the new head coach, but it's an internal promotion.
4:36So I think for the most part, nothing's really changed with Josh Allen aside from, I would just say that the wide
4:42receiver group is a little bit better. And then hopefully Dalton Kincaid stays a little bit healthier this year.
4:48So I don't know what you can even say poorly about Josh Allen right now.
4:52I think there were only four weeks last season where he finished outside of the top 13 quarterback scores.
4:58I mean, he is the short yardage quarterback rusher now as well.
5:01So often we think of Jalen Hurts when we think about goal line scores.
5:05That is Josh Allen. He led the NFL of all ball carriers, including running backs with 13 rushing scores inside of the 10 yard line.
5:13And we'll talk about Jalen Hurts and his decline in that department too.
5:17And so, Hey, six points is more than four, which many of your leagues out there score passing touchdowns and six points
5:23and touchdowns matter in the end, more than anything when it comes to fancy points overall on Josh Allen continues to bring that to the table.
5:311.1 inside the five other carries per game, like easily the most, even ahead of Jalen Hurts.
5:36Like, I mean, that's, it's incredible stuff. Your next quarterback is Lamar Jackson and we're already starting a tier break here.
5:42He's your 53rd overall player right now. He's being drafted on underdog in the middle of the fifth round 55 overall.
5:48Once again, that's a massive shift versus where he was being selected last year as the 29th overall player towards the end of the third round.
5:56So why the big shift? And can Lamar Jackson get right next to Josh Allen by the end of the season?
6:02He absolutely can. You just can't trust him the same way you can with Josh Allen because of some of the injuries.
6:08And then also the Baltimore Ravens, they didn't really add to their skill group this season.
6:13So they got better on the, I mean, they probably got about the same.
6:17They lose Linderbaum draft a guard inside the top 14.
6:20But for the most part, it's like kind of the same thing with Lamar Jackson in terms of the skill guys and
6:26just like has not been good enough. And then Lamar Jackson just has been dealing with some of these injuries.
6:32And I hope that his hamstring is healthy and you can keep running around like he was.
6:37But last year, even aside from the hamstring injury, he just did not feel quite as comfortable inside the pocket as he
6:44did two seasons ago when I thought he was the best quarterback in the NFL by far.
6:49But he can easily get back there. So three previous seasons to the bad one last year, he finished 45th overall, 43rd overall, and then 24th overall.
6:57So I'm kind of believing in that three year sample size a lot more than this last one when he was like very clearly playing through injuries.
7:05So I wish the Ravens did more for him.
7:07I like Jesse Minder as the head coach, but offensive quarterback, coordinator wise and skilled position wise, nothing too crazy.
7:13I kind of love this price tag for Lamar Jackson.
7:16I understand it's just ahead of this huge chunk of quarterbacks that go in round six.
7:21I mean, right now there are five of them, but like at the start of round five, it's it's Dave Montgomery, which
7:27we really appreciate the volume that Dave Montgomery is going to get.
7:31But I think we can maybe poke a few holes in that profile because it is all volume based.
7:36And then it's like DJ more right in front of him.
7:39And again, that's a volume based wide receiver. At the same time, it could easily make the case that DJ more has
7:46had like his best season ever as a professional.
7:49It might be downhill from here. What I'm most fascinated by with Lamar Jackson, though, is Declan Doyle coming in as his
7:55play caller, because we saw Todd Monk and now the Browns head coach take him to the next level.
8:01So what will Declan Doyle do with him? I mean, Doyle comes from the Ben Johnson staff and the great Ted Nguyen
8:07over at the Athletic pointed this out that Lamar his EPA per drop back and under center play action over the last
8:13two seasons was number one across the league. So if we get like 10 to 15 to 20 percent more of that,
8:20which I expect here with Monk and who like to really spread things out, work in that shotgun aspect, that could be
8:26a really interesting and new wrinkle here from a former MVP quarterback.
8:30Yeah, Lamar Jackson play action rate last year was only at 23 percent, which is about league average.
8:35So that would be helpful there. You really just got to be back to full health.
8:40And, you know, he's still in the athletic prime of his career if he can get back on the football field.
8:46He was out there for what the first practice of the offseason.
8:49That was a big deal in Baltimore. We have to, you know, remove the flu like symptoms from the Baltimore area when
8:56it gets to November and holiday time in December.
8:59Yeah, I mean, he has missed games in five of seven seasons so far.
9:03Your next quarterback, I think, kind of goes against the grain of the styling of quarterback that we like to take recently at the top of drafts.
9:11That is Joe Burrow as your quarterback to 56 overall.
9:14Excuse me, quarterback three, 56 overall, just a couple of spots later.
9:17Five of this final six starts were quarterback 11 or better.
9:20So what are you expecting with the changes to the Cincinnati Bengals and how that impacts Burrow here?
9:26So we have underdog projections right now in the Pickham lobby for the upcoming season.
9:30He has the highest touchdown projection right now at 32 and a half for passing.
9:34And then he's one of just a handful of quarterbacks over 4000 passing yards.
9:38Obviously, that's what we should expect is he could be the league leader in the passing volume stats.
9:44He says this is one of the most talented rosters that he's been a part of in a very long time.
9:50And I do believe that the offensive line is not elite, but is way better than where it was three, four seasons
9:56ago when, you know, Joe Burrow was a top five fantasy quarterback.
10:00So it's just kind of gone. Is he healthy or is he not?
10:04And right now he's healthy, ready to go. And usually in the offseason, he's coming back.
10:08Yeah, but usually he's like on crutches at this point or all of a sudden he's in the hospital.
10:14I don't want to laugh at a guy who gets banged up, but like he has missed large chunks of seasons.
10:20You know, the last three years and offseasons like they simply have never had a easy preseason.
10:25That would go a long way here. It really would.
10:28Yeah, I think this is a great year to kind of like the Bengals, like reentering themselves into like the NFL conversation.
10:34Like the defense should be much better than it was last year.
10:38But just by default, they added some pieces this offseason in the draft and in free agency and especially in like the secondary.
10:45And then Joe Burrow is healthy. T Higgins and Jamar Chase are healthy.
10:49I think the offensive line is squared away. So like this seems like this could be, you know, the 4,500 passing yard season from Joe Burrow again.
10:56We're going to have this discussion with Dak Prescott to how even going from awful to average defensively.
11:02I think a lot of people out there might say, oh, that sucks.
11:06You know, they're not going to be chasing points.
11:08They're not going to be chasing scoreboard. It's not pure dropbacks every single time.
11:12My opinion with this has been wildly different than a lot of drafters out there where I actually like when defenses improve
11:19because it sets you up to have better field position.
11:22It sets you up to lead on the scoreboard.
11:24It sets you up to have more wins. It, you know, sets you up for shorter fields, right?
11:30And I think oftentimes we think about garbage points and only throwing and all that type of stuff in second halves.
11:36Whereas, you know, the best teams that win can also put up the most points.
11:40And I think Joe Burrow and the Bengals and Dak Prescott and Dallas Cowboys will actually benefit from having improved defenses.
11:46I think it's only a bad thing when your defense is really elite and you're just blowing teams out and then you're
11:53not getting third and fourth quarter production. But if you have an OK defense in your the games are tight, you're passing the ball.
12:00If you have a Joe Burrow and if your defense stinks and you're trying to come back, you're still passing the ball.
12:06So I think the only thing with if Joe Burrow all of a sudden had the best defense in the league, which
12:13we are a decade away from that ever being a possibility.
12:16I think it's fine either way. Like we've talked about it with Jalen Hurts in the past where how few passes he's
12:22attempted in second halves and fourth quarters. But at the same time, in those seasons, Jalen Hurts is also a top three, top five quarterback score.
12:30Because if your team is leading by that much in second halves, then your quarterback has probably had a heavy hand in producing points on the scoreboard.
12:38Yeah. Other note here, similar to this strength of schedule, like over the last week or so, there's so much strength of schedule analysis.
12:45I just looked at the difference between the easiest strength of schedule and the least difficult strength of schedule from this last season.
12:52The EPA difference is like point one. It's almost nothing.
12:55So we make a big deal out of it because there's nothing to say in a strength of schedule.
13:00It doesn't really matter over the entire course of the season.
13:03We can nitpick like, hey, we like this guy in week one and we should focus on that.
13:09But over the entire course of the season, it doesn't really matter.
13:12I'd say how good your defense is also largely doesn't matter.
13:15Okay. Your first, I wouldn't say big shift, but shift from ADP where the public is drafting is you have Caleb Williams as your quarterback for right now.
13:24He's being selected as the quarterback six, but again, in that same round six territory.
13:28So what gives you the confidence to put Caleb here?
13:31He's just like bread for fantasy points. So the way that he scrambles around, he can be used inside the red zone.
13:37He could have crazy explosives down the football field and the arm talent is just so out of control.
13:43And his just ability to throw on the run is so out of control that I just want to believe in him
13:49going to his third season, his second season with Ben Johnson.
13:53I want to believe in Colson Loveland, Luther Burden and Roma Dunze.
13:56He has like a very real trio moving forward.
13:59The offensive line, they fixed it the last season.
14:01They've got a little bit of a left tackle issue right now, but they've got a lot of depth to throw at it.
14:08I just fully believe in Ben Johnson, Caleb Williams in the playoffs and in December looked a lot better and more comfortable than he did in September.
14:16And then some of the initial reports out of training camp and before that.
14:20So I'm just like believing in the trajectory here when he was coming out at USC, he was supposed to be like
14:27one of the best players in the NFL. And like what happens in like year three, year four, year five, that's when we actually see it.
14:34So I'm pretty much like throwing away the rookie season.
14:37I'm throwing away some of the September games. And like we kept talking about on stats versus films, like, hey, you watch the Bears game on review.
14:45And then we both say yes, as like Caleb played way better than he did the previous week.
14:50We kept saying that. So I just think that I'm going to take that and push it to this next season.
14:57And last year he was already the quarterback seven.
14:59Yeah, I mean his I would say athleticism pops his scrambling pops and kind of feel for that area.
15:05His arm obviously is outstanding when on the move.
15:07The torque that he brings the table is simply fantastic.
15:10And with that said, there are still obvious areas where he can improve his game.
15:15And if those get better and namely like these intermediate and specifically downfield passing, I'm not saying it's all him.
15:21You know, some of it's the connection that he had with DJ Moore or lack of with Roma Dunze.
15:26Shout out James. Then, you know, the timing, the placement, a lot of those passes being on, you know, the same area
15:33of the field and on the same wavelength. It just wasn't there enough.
15:36Hopefully more time on task, more time together here in year two of this entire system and this almost all entire personnel comes back together.
15:44And that simply improves because the arm is certainly there for him to be one of the best vertical passers and downfield passers in the NFL.
15:51We just haven't seen that like work itself out game to game.
15:55So far, his accuracy has not been that of the first overall pick yet.
15:59And hopefully he kind of squared that away. And I think that playing on time, you know, his wide receivers being in
16:05the right spot, they're not running out of bounds in the middle of the plays.
16:10Those type of things, I think, will improve kind of the little weaknesses that we still have.
16:15Yeah, look, progression isn't linear, but you can see in this chart from like week 13 and then you get to week
16:2117 that like that's a pretty good trajectory. And that's certainly what it felt like for a large portion of his season
16:28that the stats might have some blips and some holes in them.
16:31And again, certainly not a perfect and complete player at this point.
16:35But I think the tools are there for him to be a complete player on top of it.
16:40All right. Jayden Daniels is up next as your quarterback five, someone who I was relentlessly drafting right now and previously last year.
16:47And that didn't work out because of an injury.
16:49And I was drafting him mainly in that area because his rookie season, he finished as the quarterback five in points per game.
16:56So I might argue we're getting a bit of a discount here because of that second season.
17:01Yeah, last year, I'm like largely just throwing it away.
17:04I mean, he was injured the entire time. We got a new play caller in there two seasons ago as a rookie.
17:11He was the 39th overall player in that metric.
17:13I keep referencing. He's being drafted way after that.
17:16I rank him way after that. So there's room for upside with Jayden Daniels here.
17:20I will say the skill group is not my favorite.
17:23They have no running backs. They have, I guess we like Chico Cuonco and they're blocking tight ends to some degree.
17:29We like Terry McLaurin, maybe more as a fringe two slash one than a true number one.
17:34And they don't have a wide receiver to wide receiver three right now.
17:38Unless Antonio Williams becomes a guy. So there's a way where all this stuff kind of pieces together.
17:43And Jayden Daniels is amazing. He also is one of the guys is the most narrowly built quarterbacks like we've ever seen.
17:50And then unfortunately, it was like three different injuries last season because of him getting hit specifically.
17:55So I think that he's going to project extremely well whenever he's out there.
17:59And then I would put him towards the top of most likely to miss time because of his play style and size.
18:05I can't wait to see him in this change of an offense like the cliff King's very stuff his rookie year.
18:12They really took it easy on him early on.
18:14It was quite simple, quite basic. But man, he mastered all of that.
18:18And then Cliff kind of added more and more as the season went along.
18:22A lot of stuff was wide open. There was yards have to catch opportunities.
18:26But again, he had playmaking ability and they maximized everything with it.
18:30Now you have David Blau in his really first time calling plays.
18:33He was already on the staff. So it's not like he doesn't know Jane Daniels or doesn't know his skill set.
18:39But they really want to kind of combine this Ben Johnson-esque passing game.
18:43I mean, from our buddy Rich Rebar, Jane Daniels only has 33 dropbacks from under center so far in his career.
18:49That has led to just overall an offense with low pre-snap motion, 24th in that same span of time, and then 18th in play action.
18:57So if you're talking about this styling of an offense that they want, you're going to be top 10, top 12 in both pre-snap motion and play action.
19:05And if Jane Daniels can handle that, and if this offense, despite the lack of true difference makers, can handle that, then
19:11I think that Jane has a chance of finishing, I think, as the overall quarterback one this season.
19:17Again, despite having a lesser surrounding cast than many of the names we're going to talk about here.
19:22He's going to have to rip off some explosives and really showcase that elite speed that he has.
19:27And he has to be at full health in order to do that.
19:31But I do think this entire tier that we're talking about, they have the chance to match Josh Allen, if not surpass him in the best of seasons.
19:39And then I had the same exact notes for the play action.
19:43Caleb Williams was second in play action rate last year.
19:46Jared Goff was top 10. And then you have to scroll all the way down to find Jane Daniels, like you said.
19:52And I found it interesting that Marcus Mariota was actually really high on play action rate last year in the same exact offense.
19:59So they're still trying to figure things out exactly up front, skill possession wise, the offense in general.
20:04Jaden's just been a fantasy football print fest, even going back to the LSU days.
20:08Now, they have invested a ton in the offensive line.
20:11Like it's Larry Tunsell. It's Sam Cosme at right guard.
20:14Josh Connolly at right tackle. They bring the same left guard back in Chris Paul and a different center now with Tyler Biotish.
20:21But at that same time, if that group stays healthy, that should be, again, a platform for them to work off of.
20:28They did give away their starting center, Tyler Biotish, for nothing.
20:31And that was something that was very commanders. Wasn't reading the market very well with how all these centers were getting paid.
20:37No, the Chargers signed up for more money than they saved by releasing it.
20:41Never, never good. Very, very true. By the way, my voice, I apologize for it.
20:46Just the greatest football club in the world. You know, just our European champions.
20:50So, you know, had to rep it and lose my voice a little bit.
20:54Okay. Jalen Hurts is your quarterback six. Big conversation here.
20:57All right. We know about the passing struggles last season.
21:00We know Sean Mannion was brought in, former quarterback himself, to fix things.
21:04We can talk about the passing here in a moment, but maybe more from a fantasy lens, Hayden.
21:09My big question is this. Seven rushing touchdowns inside the 10-yard line last year.
21:13In 2024, that was 13. Is this a concerning trend for us?
21:17Well, we talked about this with Dallas Goddard. There was a couple of those, like, tush pushes that he was flinging the
21:23ball over to Dallas Goddard for a touchdown himself there.
21:26So, yeah. I mean, 13, 15 rushing touchdowns. Like, those type of seasons are, like, the outlier seasons.
21:31And that's when Jalen Hurts was right up there.
21:34I was, like, in the mix for quarterback one overall.
21:37Now, the baseline projection whenever you're doing things is, like, Jalen Hurts is going to score eight and a half touchdowns this upcoming season.
21:44So maybe the offense wasn't quite as good as we were hoping for last year, and it came down even further than that.
21:51I think the baseline would be somewhere between those two numbers that you just threw out there and that he will finish in this range.
21:58I think, like, to me, the biggest thing with Jalen Hurts is how good is the offensive line?
22:03Because last year it was more mediocre than elite because of all the injuries.
22:07And now all those guys are back and they're healthy today.
22:10But it's about, you know, is their back going to give out?
22:14And then second is Jalen Hurts has been fantastic against man coverage because he has two superstar wide receivers.
22:20Well, one of them is not on the team anymore.
22:22And I really like Mekhi Lemon and Eli Stowers is interesting.
22:26But it's not A.J. Brown in his prime. And Jalen Hurts has not been, like, Mr.
22:30Read It Out against zone coverage. So is Sean Mannion good enough versus what we've been dealing with at O.C.
22:36to make up for the difference between prime A.J.
22:39Brown and Jalen Hurts was a top three fantasy quarterback versus where I think I'm more comfortable with him?
22:44He's going to be a mid-range quarterback one. I think the odds of him getting back to the top three are not my favorite.
22:51And that's why he's now in the 60s, 70s rather than in the 30s or 40s.
22:56You know, we've seen two drastically different, let's say, on the spectrum play callers here for Jalen Hurts.
23:01You have the ones that go on to be head coaches in Shane Steichen and Kellen Moore.
23:06And they can coax, pull, like, certain elements of Jalen Hurts' game where he's uncomfortable, but they make him trust them.
23:13And he can, you know, work multiple parts of the field.
23:16The other ones in the Brian Johnsons and everything else that we've gotten since then, it just doesn't work.
23:21And when it doesn't work, like, Jalen kind of goes into a shell and it really impacts the passing game because only certain concepts can be run.
23:29Like, I don't think that Jalen Hurts is going to miraculously be better at targeting certain areas of the field that he didn't love before.
23:37But the big key is, can they run the ball successfully in order to generate single high looks?
23:42That is the entire difference, right? Can Saquon Barkley and this offensive line be ahead of the chains and create explosives enough
23:48that you can have Devontae Smith and Makai Lemon work man-to-man coverage and single high looks?
23:53And if that's the case, then you're going to have a really successful season.
23:57So as, you know, critical as I am of Jalen Hurts is like a pure passer.
24:02I can also say it wasn't just him why the offense was different last year.
24:06And I would say even more so, it was the regression of the rushing game.
24:1117th in EPA per carry last year. So right there in the middle of the pack that used to be first or second every single season.
24:18So he's a system of, you know, the Eagles like just elite front office and skill players and offensive line.
24:24And when he has it all, he can win a Super Bowl with ease.
24:28And then when it starts to fall apart, he looks more average.
24:32So I think we're probably in the middle of the both polls because I thought last year play calling wise for the
24:38Eagles was pretty close to a disaster in terms of like scheming things up and pass protection rules and that type of thing.
24:45And I'm guessing that's just going to get a little bit better, even if we are going to miss AJ Brown.
24:51Not like AJ Brown was like an all pro player of last year.
24:55No, he's definitely had his flaws last year, too.
24:58He Jalen Hurts was being drafted as the 43rd overall player last season and is being drafted as the 67th overall player this year.
25:05Another thing from Ted Nguyen over at the athletic, the Packers ranked fourth in explosive rush rate from shotgun over the last
25:11two seasons where Jalen Hurts loves to live. Outside of what that Vikings game last year where they scored like two big
25:17time touchdowns that, you know, was going back against their tendencies.
25:21And then he's like, actually, I'm never doing that again, despite it working.
25:25Obviously, Sean Mannion is coming from that Packers coaching staff.
25:27And since 2020, Jalen Hurts ranks 85th of 88 eligible quarterbacks in percentage of throws between the numbers below 15 air yards.
25:34So, again, it goes to areas of the field that he is simply not comfortable with.
25:39But, again, he is just tied to like the rushing success because that gives them advantageous looks that he can maximize.
25:45I will say that Packers offense is very vertical, you know, and the shotgun play action vertical shots.
25:50That's kind of what Jalen Hurts is good at.
25:53So, like out of all of the there's there's a lot of similarities between the two.
25:57So I think that I mean, obviously, how he Roseman's in a really smart GM him looking at this Packers offense and
26:04being like this is the best version for my quarterback is just smart game planning by them.
26:09And I do think the offense is not going to feel a whole lot different than what it was the last couple of seasons.
26:16Hopefully just like the down to down consistency and like all the little details that we're not privy to.
26:21Hopefully that just gets cleaned up. Plus, you know, Dickerson playing better.
26:25Like Jordan Love, you wouldn't say that he is a dice him up over the middle field type quarterback.
26:30He's more of an ambitious thrower down the field, outside the numbers, all that type of stuff.
26:35I do want to rewind this quickly to the start of this conversation.
26:39I mean, Jalen Hurts just isn't the type of mover and scrambler and athlete that he was, I think, a handful of years ago.
26:46There was that game early on in the season where he basically won it because of his scrambling.
26:52But I actually think that he is less willing to take a pounding when it comes to the tush push and the short yards rushing things.
26:59So I think I'm a bit more skeptical of him, you know, getting back to a double digit rushing score or even
27:06close like the 13 that he had a couple of years ago.
27:09Yeah, I think that's probably pretty fair. He's at 474 rushing yards in the projections right now.
27:14Who's quarterback six this last season? It probably that feels about right to me.
27:18Next up. Drake May in this same tier. What a season for him last year.
27:23Talk about ambitious throwers just launching the pill to a lot of wide receivers like Kayshawn Booty that we didn't have a lot of expectation for.
27:30You get Matt Collins out there now. Not too much has changed as of this moment.
27:35We are hoping that AJ Brown joins the party here after, you know, June 1st.
27:39And if that's the case, Hayden, what can Drake may be here in year two with Josh McDaniels and staff?
27:45Yeah, I mean, his arrow is just continuing to point straight up.
27:49The offensive line is still a little bit shaky to me at left tackle there.
27:53He's got a new center in there. He's never played NFL center before.
27:57So there's some parts of this Patriots offense that is not perfect.
28:01But the skill group, we're going to feel a lot better with AJ Brown there.
28:05They've got some depth and Kyle Williams, Eli Raritan is the tight end to now instead of Austin Cooper.
28:10So it's not the worst case scenario for Drake May.
28:13I will acknowledge there's some negative regression stuff just based off the profile here.
28:18Last year, he led all quarterbacks and completion percentage over expected, which is how often you complete passes versus how far the
28:24ball is being thrown down the football field. He was by far number one in that metric.
28:29That typically kind of comes down a little bit.
28:32And a lot of that was because all of his numbers, like 20 yards down the football field and more.
28:37It's like, I mean, he didn't miss the entire football season.
28:41So maybe he's that good. But and this is just what we're going to get used to here.
28:46Didn't want to mention six, four, two 30. And he can run like Josh Allen.
28:50So like we don't see like the crazy rushing stuff like we have with Josh Allen.
28:55It's it's within his capabilities if they ever wanted to pull that trigger.
28:59Yeah, I think you can do more than he did last year.
29:02And, you know, going back to his rookie season when it was turmoil with John Mayo and company, they didn't have a
29:09design run call from him at all. Obviously, his scrambling is outstanding.
29:12He did have 450 yards, which is the fourth most among all quarterbacks last year.
29:17But it did stand out to me just for rushing scores.
29:20Like I think he has it in his back pocket that he could have a like Trevor Lawrence.
29:25What is it like nine rushing score season, seven rushing score season?
29:29If just a couple things go a bit differently inside the seven or inside of the five yard line.
29:34That's just, you know, kind of the regression area of the field where it sometimes works out for the Russian quarterback and the scrambling quarterback.
29:42And sometimes it doesn't. Other things people are going to talk about the strength of schedule from this last season.
29:48It's like I really struggled in the playoffs, which like there is definitely like a degree of some truth to that.
29:54That said, I have my my new website here.
29:56I have filters where you can change it by how good the defense was.
30:00And when he's playing above average defense, the Patriots were still fourth in EPA for drop back.
30:05That includes those postseason games on top of that.
30:08So in general, quarterbacks are just as good in year three as they were in year two.
30:13And we're about to get better at the skill group here.
30:16So Drake may this is a little bit lower than where he ranked last year because of the regression stuff.
30:22But all these guys could finish as a quarterback one, two or three.
30:26And that's why they're all grouped right next to each other.
30:29Well, let's talk about the next name because he is your quarterback eight.
30:33And I believe he's being drafted as the quarterback nine.
30:36He's going to start the next year. I would argue as we go throughout this offseason, I think he's going to vault up into the next grouping.
30:44And I think you can make an argument that Justin Herbert selected right now as a 11th pick in the seventh round
30:50might be the best value at quarterback on the board.
30:53What are you expecting here with, I mean, some significant changes just from getting two healthy first round offensive tackles back and
31:00adding Mike McDaniel as a play caller. Yeah. And in the interior to be outage is like a real center.
31:05We're complaining with Jada Daniels like they just added him as well.
31:09So they have to figure out the guard spot.
31:12But in between the guards, you have very good players at all spots.
31:15Obviously, we have a lot of faith in the coaching staff and Justin Herbert to figure it out.
31:21The skill group is largely the same as it was this last season.
31:25I just think they're going to be way more dynamic with McDaniels, who we love versus, you know, the great Roman of it all.
31:32So he's somebody that I think the pick a lobby, he's sitting there a little bit too low.
31:37His passing touchdowns only at 24 and a half.
31:40His passing yards are in the middle of the 3600 club.
31:43I like him more than that. Last year's staff, it's hard to even like factor any of it in because he was just getting absolutely hammered.
31:50I mean, like I don't even know what you can say about any of last season.
31:55And still, he was a quarterback 14. I mean, with Greg Roman and no offensive line.
32:00There are some on-off splits, Hayden, that just let me say some words here because he was the quarterback two and overall
32:06scoring through nine weeks before the Joe Alt injury.
32:09Wow. Now he gets Ray Sean Slater, Joe Alt, Mike McDaniel, as you said, Tyler Bejadish.
32:14And look, Mike McDaniel, defense is caught up to Tua's limitations, right?
32:17Certain areas of the field he could not throw to.
32:20Certain time to throw, he can't hang the ball, right?
32:23Physical limitations in terms of an athlete outside and on extended plays.
32:26He just doesn't have it. Herbert doesn't have any of those limitations.
32:30So, like, what is Mike McDaniel, who already generated a top five, top six offense with the quarterback with major limitations?
32:36Going to be able to do here with Justin Herbert.
32:39Herbert, again, citing this 10 to win piece, Mike McDaniel discussed in his news conference last week that maximizing the yardage when
32:45Justin Herbert threw for 2.4 seconds or faster. He talked about changing his footwork and changing where his eyes are on those concepts.
32:52That change will allow Herbert to get rid of the football faster, more accurately, which should lead to more yards after catch opportunities.
32:59We know last year, all those passes were kind of static.
33:02It was hitches. It was just stuff to Greg Roman specials, and we hated it.
33:07So we have, like, the extended play, put the team on your back stuff with Justin Herbert when you need it.
33:13And now there's just going to be easy button stuff more often, too, if he gets in sync on the timing and rhythm and the landmarks of everything.
33:21I am so excited for this. I understand there's a section of football, you know, podcasting and Twitter and content out there
33:27that hates us glowingly talking about Justin Herbert. But, man, this stuff can go to the moon this year, and I'm so pumped for this combination.
33:35If man, yeah, I think that he belongs in this tier because he's just not going to run quite as much to
33:41be a top three fantasy quarterback over the course of the season.
33:45But I would be stunned if he's not a top 10 quarterback this year.
33:49The Chargers are going to win a lot of games.
33:52Well, with that in mind, the people are drafting pocket passer Dak Prescott ahead of Justin Herbert.
33:57So what are your thoughts on Dak heading into another season with two elite wide receivers on the outside and the inside?
34:03He's one of three quarterbacks projected for over 4,000 yards in the underdog pick-em lobby right now.
34:08And, I mean, this offense returns everybody and will actually have CeeDee Lamb probably for the entire season rather than him missing
34:15about half the quarter of the season due to injury.
34:18So this offensive line is not as good as where it was when Dak Prescott was like an MVP candidate, but it's functional and it all returns.
34:26And now he has, you know, freaking George Pickens as a two, even though he might be like a top 10 freaking receiver in the NFL.
34:33So he's in the ball out. There's nothing negative I can say here.
34:37Maybe two years ago, I thought his accuracy was falling off.
34:40And he was like forcing those like seam balls, which he always does.
34:44But the accuracy wasn't there. At the same time, he's playing through injuries in that season.
34:49This last year, all the accuracy numbers that I look at completion percentage over expected.
34:53They all go back to where his rest of career baseline looks.
34:57So there's not like an age cliff that we're worried about or too many injuries.
35:01Two years ago, he was just injured. We're not expecting him to be injured right now.
35:06So I think that he's going to throw the ball around the yard.
35:10And I think this team is going to be really good.
35:13I already mentioned the defensive changes and how the improvements can actually help Dak Prescott.
35:17Also, Dak has been a top eight score in points per game in five of his past six seasons.
35:23He's just so effective, so efficient, throwing those seams, throwing those downfield passes.
35:27And so while he's listed as quarterback nine, we can have some injuries ahead of him that vaults him into that quarterback eight.
35:33Like Dak is, I think, one of the safest picks out there, despite him, you know, really not having any of that scrambling juice.
35:41As he used to prior to those, what ankle injuries, those foot injuries.
35:44And then now he's just still so cerebral, I think, as a pocket passer.
35:48Yep. George Pickens round three. Sometimes you can get him with Dak Prescott.
35:52I mean, that's that's easy money right there. Let's talk about Jackson Dart, who's being selected 91st overall.
35:58You have him 89th overall. Interesting rookie season with play calling, not changes, but head coach getting fired midseason, despite him, you
36:04know, doing some really solid things and really good things here with Jackson Dart.
36:08And now it's not Nagy entering the time frame.
36:11So will we see the same nine rushing touchdowns in 14 games that Jackson Dart played last year?
36:16Probably not. Brian Dable definitely wanted Jackson Dart to get going there.
36:19That said, Jackson Dart is like a really thick quarterback who's got athletic traits and like he's ran throughout his entire collegiate career on top of that.
36:27So he's not going back to zero when it comes to the rushing stuff.
36:32It's going to be somewhere in, you know, the Dak Prescott range where you're adding some in the prime of your career,
36:38even though you're not going to be Jalen Hurts.
36:41I will say this. He didn't have any games with Malik neighbors last year, and he was still a quarterback one for the season.
36:48Like that's that's outrageous stuff. And his EPA per play and success rate were about league average when he was throwing to
36:54Wandale Robinson as by far his best wide receiver.
36:57The hard part is Malik neighbors is probably going to miss September.
37:00So like if you're only drafting for a redraft, the Jackson Dart projections might not be quite as good.
37:06But by the end of the season, if Malik neighbors is like back to himself and Jackson darts taking his second year
37:12leap and reading things out, because last year he he was explosive in every capacity.
37:17Reading things out was still there's some development that needed to happen, and we should expect that to only get better moving forward.
37:23He had some crazy splits with Cam Scadaboo as well.
37:26I think that Nagy offense is going to be generally pretty balanced here, but it is Matt Nagy, and we've not we've
37:33not loved him calling plays whenever he has. I wanted to get a temperature check from you on Matt Nagy and Jackson
37:39Dart, because like if Todd Monken didn't get the head coaching job with the Cleveland Browns, he was going to be the offensive coordinator here.
37:47And I think you and I would have been freaking excited for that.
37:50Yes, Matt Nagy a little bit less because like there's nothing.
37:54I would say exciting about Kansas City system over these last couple years.
37:57And now that's not even Andy Reid calling this offense.
38:00It's Matt Nagy calling it. And like there's also been tons of conversation about how run heavy Harbaugh wants this Giants offense to be.
38:07So just temperature check overall with the Giants passing game.
38:10I think they will be really run heavy. I think they're going to lean on Cam Scadaboo a ton, but I also
38:17think they're going to use Jackson Dart and they can steal a lot of the concepts they had with Lamar Jackson, with
38:23Jackson Dart, even if they like the rushing styles are a little bit different there.
38:28So I still think the rushing stuff is going to be like help him be a top 12 quarterback.
38:33I would be I will not be stunned if this is a bottom 10 and neutral pass rate in just like pace of play.
38:40The offensive line should be better, though. You get Andrew Thomas like not dealing with crazy injuries.
38:45Francis Malinoa moving to guard is like a total brick house up front.
38:49So that's really promising. And then this is another one of these defenses, Josh, whereas like they were dead last in like every rushing category.
38:56Like they could not get off the football field.
38:59So there were many second halves where the Giants would just like not have the ball a ton because their run defense was so bad.
39:06And that should get a lot better. Even if they traded away Dexter Lawrence, like Harbaugh being in there, they draft Sonny
39:13Styles or Arvin Arvel Reese that high. And I think the defense should look a little bit better, too.
39:18Yeah, we've heard from Harbaugh that the world might end if they give up an average of 4.1 yards per carry on defense.
39:25So we don't want the world to end. We want to watch some football games.
39:29That's for sure. All right. My guy, Trevor Lawrence, winds up as your quarterback 11.
39:34He's being drafted around in that same area. Last year at this time was being selected as the quarterback 19 and drastically overperformed that.
39:41And to the degree, Hayden, from week seven to the end of the year, Trevor was the quarterback one in points per game.
39:48Yeah, I have it when Jacoby Myers was a part of the football team.
39:52He was the quarterback two. That's the last eight games, including the NFL postseason, only behind Josh Allen.
39:57And without him, he was the quarterback 15. So it's like Jacoby Myers is like it's also a biweek.
40:03There's like a lot of these factors going in.
40:05It's also, you know, Travis Hunter getting injured. It's also with Jacoby Myers.
40:09And it makes sense here. They actually had someone who was effective at working the intermediate portion over the middle of the
40:16field and would be willing to make those catches versus coming short with them alligator arming or like in Travis Hunter's case,
40:22like not knowing where to line up and everything of that sort.
40:25So he had a true NFL veteran wide receiver attacking the area of the field that Liam Cohen's offenses are built around.
40:32And then Parker Washington, like copy paste all that.
40:35We just talked about Parker Washington was like even more effective than Jacoby Myers was.
40:39So like everything kind of came together. I think what you said is the true part is like the more time on
40:45task with Liam Cohen, who top five play caller in the league.
40:49I mean, this is like back to back seasons where he's just like a total maniac calling plays.
40:54He should get a lot better as a head coach, because like you said, while his play designs were good, getting the
41:01frickin play called in was a total, total debacle.
41:03So hopefully they kind of clean up the operations here.
41:06Trevor Lawrence was running enough to like bring up his fantasy point total.
41:10And then he can get hot in a game because when he's accurate, he wants to push the ball down the field.
41:16When those balls are being completed, he can really take off.
41:20Sometimes he'll throw some bad interceptions. The ball will get away from him at times, which is why he's not all the way up there.
41:27But I think like we've created a baseline here.
41:30Like last year when he was like hovering between quarterback two and quarterback 15, like he's going to live there.
41:36And then just kind of comes down to how good is Brian Thomas?
41:39How much wide receivers Travis Hunter playing? Is Parker Washington legit Jacoby Myers holding the line?
41:44So I think he's in good shape. I think you could argue that the rushing attack might be worse this season, too.
41:50So the reliance on his passing game and short yardage rushing could still be there.
41:55Like nine rushing scores every single year just isn't going to happen for Trevor Lawrence.
41:59But it might happen again this year just with, you know, some of the scrambling and some of the design rushes inside
42:06the seven inside the five yard line. He's always had that dating back to his time at Clemson, too.
42:11He just didn't really see it in his first few years.
42:15Yeah. Inside the five carriers. I have a Josh Allen, one point one per game.
42:19Jalen Hurts, point eight. Trevor Lawrence, point seven third in the NFL.
42:22You know, big guy. Not a big guy. It's Kyler Murray.
42:26And he's your next quarterback right after Trevor Lawrence.
42:28Kyler Murray, now a Minnesota Viking. His last team, the Arizona Cardinals simply did not want him.
42:33So now he's playing in the league minimum here with the Minnesota Vikings.
42:37So we always talk about it. This is the Mick Shanahan tree.
42:41Are we getting a Mick Shanahan tree discount at quarterback?
42:44Not for my rankings. I'm ranking where I think he belongs.
42:47I think the ADP is a little bit too low for Kyler Murray.
42:51First of all, I don't think it's gonna be a quarterback competition with JJ McCarthy, who every single scatter plot I pull up.
42:57He's in the very bottom left of Kyler Murray.
43:00When I went back to watch his tape from last season, because we had a bunch of Michael Wilson and Marvin Harrison
43:06and Trey McBride stuff to go through. And then Kyler Murray was changing teams.
43:11When I went back and watched those games, how many times did his receivers just drop the football?
43:16So I know his stats last year were just completely, completely like not up to standard.
43:20I thought his film was a little bit better.
43:23And more importantly than all of that, Kyler Murray has not had this environment in years.
43:28And when he did have DeAndre Hopkins with Cliff Kingsbury and the offense was fast and they're throwing the ball down the
43:34football field, he was a top five fantasy quarterback.
43:37It's been many years since we've had that. But we get Kevin O'Connell, who, by the way, with Kirk Cousins three and
43:43four years ago, he was a top 100 overall player in fantasy.
43:47Then with Sam Darnold two seasons ago, he had his best fantasy season.
43:51He was 109th overall player. Those guys don't run.
43:53And they were fringe top 100 overall players. Kyler Murray should be healthy, ready to go and running around on top of that.
44:00So I think out of all the guys in this tier, like who has like the highest fantasy appeal, like in terms of raw upside.
44:07I think it is Kyler Murray. Like he is does obviously has not earned our trust to like vault in there.
44:14Yeah. But after week one, if he has 260 yards and 35 rushing yards and he throws a couple of deep passes
44:20to Jordan Addison, like we're going to be like, all right, it's ready to go.
44:24Like immediately. He's being drafted as quarterback 17. And that's just too low when we're talking about the potential upside here, because
44:31in this area, like I just want to draft for a guy that, you know, can win me weeks.
44:36Literally win me weeks. And this is one of the coaching trees.
44:40And I think a play caller that can definitely do that.
44:43On the same time, I don't want to overlook how his time in Arizona just ended.
44:48Like, I understand that they technically said he's, he's injured.
44:51He's on reserve, all this type of stuff. Dude, he was practicing for multiple weeks and they just did not want to play it.
44:58Right. And they weren't a good football team. And I think you can look to some of the stuff on the field.
45:04Maybe I'm a bit more critical of him than you are that Kyler Murray just doesn't follow through with the scheme and the game plan of a play.
45:12Probably often enough that elite quarterbacks do. And so I think there are some negatives to his actual play style.
45:18On the other hand, I can also say that he has obvious physical attributes in terms of athleticism, in terms of arm, especially downfield passing.
45:26And he's attached to a play caller and Kevin O'Connell that has literally won us weeks with random quarterbacks.
45:31Like Nick Mullins. Dobbs from the Cardinals off the airplane.
45:34On three days notice. Right. And so I believe I trust in KOC to extract enough from Kyler Murray and to build
45:41an offense around Kyler Murray strengths that will mask some of the flaws and accentuate a lot of the strengths.
45:47So I am much closer to you as the quarterback 12 and I am where the public is drafting him as the quarterback 17.
45:54I wouldn't be surprised if we do our final August quarterback rankings episode and I have him like next to Dak Prescott,
46:00like keep moving him up throughout it all. I mean, it's not really going to be a competition.
46:05I think there's stylistically like similar quarterbacks between Kyler and Sam Darnold who they want to throw the ball down the football field.
46:12They have crazy arm talent and the rest of their profile can be a little bit inconsistent.
46:17And that's how Kevin O'Connell wants to play. It's like no pass protection rules, throw the ball down the football field.
46:23And if we complete them, we win 14 games.
46:26If we don't, we win eight games. Last year stuff.
46:29And like, obviously he did. It was not well liked in that building.
46:33It's also the Cardinals building. I mean, it's a, it's a complete, complete travesty.
46:37What's going on over there. And the Vikings are completely well run.
46:40They're always like first in the NFL. Yeah. But at the same time, like better environment.
46:45He also made Trey McBride much worse than Trey McBride should have been like some of the not seeing him in the
46:51end zone and like not targeting him in that area of the field.
46:55Like that stuff was legitimate to me. He was wide open a lot of that stuff.
47:00And we saw Trey McBride and Michael Wilson just explode without Kyler Murray, a quarterback.
47:04Yeah. But you don't have to throw the ball six yards down the football field.
47:09We got here comes a post route. Jordan Addison, another post route from the other side with Justin Jefferson.
47:14And like, let's, let's party. He's gonna be very inconsistent, but let's ride the wave.
47:19All right. Continuing on. Let's talk about Brock Purdy here.
47:21I drafted a ton of Brock Purdy last year, mainly because of the schedule that the San Francisco 49ers had.
47:27It was right up there with the New England Patriots as the easiest on the board.
47:32He has finished higher than this quarterback 13 ranking in each of the last three seasons, including years of quarterback eight and quarterback six and points per game.
47:40The schedule obviously isn't anywhere as soft, but the team was also ridiculously injured last year, including himself.
47:46And we saw that once he returned to the field.
47:48Yeah, I think Purdy is a really fun quarterback to watch.
47:52He can throw guys off of them for how like small or he's short.
47:56He's not even small. He's like pretty thick out there.
47:59So you get some of the Russian stuff with Brock Purdy.
48:02He wants to throw the ball down the football field.
48:05Mike Evans is an upgrade versus what they had.
48:08Hopefully Ricky Pearsall is an upgrade over what he was himself this last season.
48:12And then throwing Christian Kirk, Deshaun Stribbling. And then maybe you have something here.
48:16I think there's more question marks going into the season just because of the age concerns with everybody, including the offensive line.
48:22Like Trent Williams is probably not going to be the all pro version of himself.
48:27Is the offensive line going to be a lot closer to average?
48:30At the same time, Brock Purdy is just so much better now than where he was a couple seasons ago.
48:36And he's been Mr. Reliable when it turned in terms of his fantasy points whenever he's out there.
48:41He does not have top five quarterback within his range of outcomes.
48:45But I do think that he is like a fringe quarterback one, no doubt about it.
48:49He's the first pick of the ninth round right now, 97 overall.
48:53And you have him right at 97 overall. Okay, moving on.
48:56Fascinating conversation about Patrick Mahomes, who is swinging a golf club.
48:59He was injured late last year. They did not make the playoffs.
49:03And that wasn't just because he was injured. It's also because that offense freaking sucks to watch.
49:08And what did they do to fix that offense this year?
49:11Got rid of Matt Nagy. I mean, that's hey, we can't talk about Jackson Dart and not bring it up with Patrick Mahomes.
49:18That's a start. Maybe Rasheed Rice is out there in himself this year.
49:22We'll see about that. That's going to be a big hang up here.
49:26The offensive line rotating some bodies at the tackle spot.
49:28But that should be fine enough. I think the enemy over Nagy should matter to some degree here.
49:34Patrick Mahomes has never been like a goal line rusher.
49:37So we shouldn't expect that. But he has been buying time and creating some fancy points that way.
49:42So do you think that's going to last like with this injury?
49:45Like it's always in big contests. He scrambles a lot.
49:48And last year, he actually did a lot of it.
49:51He was the quarterback for in points per game because he was last season.
49:55Right. Because of his running. I am just nervous that after this injury, we get even less of that.
50:01Yeah. I almost believe that Mahomes is doing that out of necessity, though.
50:05Great. I do wonder if like they have to do that again.
50:08Well, I mean, yeah, Kenneth Walker is going to help.
50:11I think all this kind of averages out and then he's going to be in this range.
50:16I don't think he's at risk of missing week one.
50:19I think he's ready to go. I think he's going to be out there really early into training camp.
50:25And it's just going to be like you said, what percentage of Mahomes is he this year?
50:30Not how many games is he going to play?
50:32He's going to be out there. I think Rasheed Rice will most likely be out there week one as well as much of a headache.
50:40It always is for May and June. He's literally in jail right now.
50:43But I think that in week one, he will be out there.
50:47Yeah. He's not going to reach the highs that he did when he was, you know, throwing 50 touchdowns.
50:53They're just like the offense has completely changed since then.
50:56But I feel better about the enemy than Nagy.
50:58And to me, that matters to some degree here.
51:01I think you pointed this out. Their first two games are primetime contests.
51:05So the NFL probably expects Patrick Holmes to be on the field in week one.
51:09I think we should. It's Monday night football and then Sunday night football.
51:13Like if he's not out there, it's Justin Fields on Monday night football.
51:17That's not what they want. Bo Nix is next up for you.
51:20I don't know how much I should say. I had some interesting conversations about Sean Payton giving up.
51:25Play calling to Davis Webb and the effect that that can have here.
51:29I don't know if he really wanted to do that.
51:32Kind of wonder if this is not a force change, but something that can be difficult for those of us on the
51:39outside to know what extent a shift in Sean Payton calling down, down plays to Davis Webb is going to be.
51:45But what are your expectations here for O Nix in 2026?
51:48I also mentioned that like the Nix and Sean Payton, you know, relationship for as many ball games as they're winning has been very odd in the media.
51:56So yeah, I think all that's just offseason noise.
51:59And then for the most part, we're going to get to the season and Sean Payton is going to be awesome, you know, setting up his protections.
52:07The offensive lines and play way better than their talent is.
52:10And they got a lot of talent up front.
52:13And then he gets Jalen Waddle. I mean, they threw so many screens and I looked at RPOs to Troy Franklin was
52:19like the leader in like targets on RPOs this last year.
52:22And then like Martin, one of like the leaders in terms of red zone and inside the 10 yard line targets to not good enough.
52:30Like not good enough. Like get Jalen Waddle in there instead.
52:33And like this thing can absolutely take off. And Cortland Sutton being like a very legit number two instead of the alpha
52:39of the team makes a ton of sense. So I mean, Bo Nix, the last his first two seasons has finished 99th
52:46overall and 104th overall in fancy points of replacement per game.
52:49And he's adding Jalen Waddle. The only reason why I haven't ranked this like in this spot is because the ankle injury
52:55and there's been like a lot of noise and how many ankle injuries he's had, but, and I think because we don't
53:02trust Bo Nix as much as we do some of the other quarterbacks in this tier, but I mean, he finishes here without Jalen Waddle.
53:09Like you can tell me that Bo Nix gets even better in his third season.
53:14Jalen Waddle makes a huge difference. And then Bo Nix finishes at the quarterback six this year.
53:19Like that's definitely possible. Next is Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford finished last season as a quarterback three.
53:24And points per game. He had the touchdown score and Devante Adams.
53:27When Pukenakua is out there, Pukenakua is freaking awesome.
53:30They just threw the rock over and over and over again.
53:33We also don't have the weirdness of the back injury and the airstream at training camp.
53:38Hopefully this all season, or maybe hopefully we do because look what it turned into Matthew Stafford this season when I was so nervous.
53:45I thought one hit boom, who knows what's going to happen.
53:48And then there was in week seven calling this team the best in the NFL, which they could easily be once again in 2026.
53:55Yep. If he runs really hot, you can be the quarterback three.
53:58And then he, you know, go back to somewhere in his Rams averages.
54:02He's somewhere in the low end quarterback one mix.
54:05Then you start adding the age concerns. And then I'll just say like the fragility of the wide receiver room, then, you
54:11know, break a couple of ties against him. But he's firmly in this tier, like Justin Herbert, Matthew Stafford are absolutely in
54:18the same fancy tier to me heading into the season.
54:21I had a crazy note on the Devante Adams stuff.
54:24So he had the most red zone targets this year at 32.
54:27He scored 12 touchdowns that led the position. He averaged 2.0 yards per target in the red area because they had so
54:34many like one yard line throws from that spot.
54:36So obviously all that stuff helps out Matthew Stafford and his touchdowns.
54:40They're projected for the most points in the league and we should be buying them.
54:44Okay. This next one is an awesome ranking because it's very against consensus.
54:48You have Malik Willis as your quarterback 17 right now.
54:51He's being selected as the quarterback 21. Why do you expect a, you know, sizable gap between you and the public?
54:57And do you think that'll shrink and more and more people will come to your side as the summer goes along?
55:03I'm guessing so, especially in redraft leagues where you don't need his scoring for the back half of the season.
55:09You just need right for September. Like he's going to project awesome.
55:13I mean, he's the small sample size King, not even just as a rusher, like his passing stats over the last couple
55:19of seasons are like quarterback one in EPA per play.
55:22He throws the ball down the football field. I don't know who he's going to be throwing the ball down the football field to this year.
55:30That's going to be the big problem, but I don't think we should say the entire dolphins team is going to be
55:36so bad and not at least say, well, by the way, they do have a new first rounder that's going to play guard or right tackle for them.
55:44They have the best center in the league and then their left tackles and athletic freakazoid who's on his way to being a perennial pro bowler.
55:52So like for what he wants to do, which is stand next to Devon HN and then run like crazy that I think that's going to work.
56:00Like, is the defense going to be able to stop anybody?
56:03I don't think so. Are they going to consistently have a third and eight conversion because they have a wider receiver that can get open?
56:10Probably not. But like the fantasy stuff for Malik Willis is there and there's, you know, what 20% chance that Malik Willis
56:17is actually just like a good NFL quarterback. You know, that's certainly possible too.
56:21And where he actually makes makes up for the difference of the bad pass catchers, but the rushing stuff is going to be out of control.
56:29Isn't this the late round quarterback formula that we just want to draft every single year?
56:33Yes. And it's more difficult, as I said, to open the show to find that.
56:38And this is the obvious one that's staring you right in the face.
56:41Uh, he's going the 11th, 12th round turn at this moment.
56:45I'm drafting a ton of Malik Willis at this point.
56:48And if it blows up, guess what? In redraft, I can just drop him and pick someone out, stream that position based on matchups very easily.
56:55And if it works, then you're probably getting someone that's scoring much higher than even the quarterback 17.
57:01You're probably getting someone that's scoring in the top 15, top 14 quarterbacks out there.
57:05And look like Bobby Sloick is not Matt LaFleur who recently got the best out of Malik Willis after he was kind
57:11of, I'll say like left for dead from the Tennessee Titans who drafted him.
57:15But Bobby Sloick did have an awesome protection plan for CJ Stroud during his rookie season and created these wide open downfield crossing routes.
57:23Now, granted that was with Nico Collins and tank Dell and Noah Brown, who had a really good season there.
57:28And he does not have experience that I know of, uh, you know, working with a mobile quarterback like Malik Willis, but
57:35it certainly sounds like he's building the playbook from the ground up and doesn't just want to copy and paste what they
57:41have done both in Miami and then previously in Houston.
57:44Uh, and just planting that here on Malik Willis.
57:47And that's the case. We're gonna get some design rushes and we just crave those when drafting quarterbacks.
57:52We were drafting Justin. Fair enough. We, you guys were drafting Justin Fields way earlier than this when the, there was overwhelming
57:59data for multiple years that Justin Fields was not good.
58:02And Malik Willis, the small, the small sample, but there's some evidence that he actually has a chance of being good and
58:08he gets drafted way later than him. And are they really going to bench Malik Willis who signed a two year contract
58:14with guarantees going into the second year for, uh, what's his face from Texas?
58:19Um, I'm not sure. Quinn Ewers. Quinn Ewers. I don't think so.
58:22I don't think so. We'll move along. Jordan Love is up next.
58:26Former teammate of Malik Willis. We know he missed some time last year, got hit in the gut.
58:31Uh, but boy, does he love to throw the football down the field?
58:35And, uh, he has basically three wide receivers to throw to now.
58:38He does, which is refreshing. There's not going to be that crazy rotation.
58:42Uh, we hope. I mean, they're going to be making up names for, for that to work this year.
58:48It can't be like save you on Williams as like a legit wide receiver.
58:52I hope not. At least, um, Jordan Love is much better than this ranking in real life, but the Packers are always
58:58low in volume and Jordan Love doesn't run pretty much at all.
59:02He can run. They just like do not use him in that capacity.
59:05So I rank him lower in fantasy than where I would in real life.
59:10If he's not that dissimilar from, you know, Trevor Lawrence, Matthew Stafford, Dak Prescott and those guys, like he can easily have those seasons here.
59:17So like this is where I think the hard part for, for picking in fantasy is all these guys look extremely similar.
59:23It's like, when do you actually want to spend your quarterback capital in redraft?
59:27You can sell me on just waiting and waiting and waiting and best ball.
59:32The quarterbacks are so valuable in half PPR that I still want to invest into it.
59:36But I mean, we're talking about what quarterback 18 already.
59:39And like Jordan Love could, I mean, he's not that far off from the quarterback nine every year.
59:44Yeah. I almost want to put like Malik Willis in his own tier because he's a different type of quarterback than all
59:51these next ones that we're about to discuss that are mostly pocket passers.
59:55Um, but let's keep on that conversation because Jared golf is up next.
59:58Uh, you have him one of seven overall. Again, these guys are all in order for you.
60:03Uh, this is a big change for him. I mean, we know Dan Campbell took back play calling last year and incomes drew petsing.
60:11And I actually think drew petsing and Jared golf are a nice combination in terms of like, Hey, we need to be
60:17precise in our timing, the rhythm base of it all.
60:20Uh, and then, you know, drew petting loves to build his passing attack around tight ends and Sam Laporta definitely has receiving chops on top of that.
60:28Plus I'm on Ross St. Brown. Um, and Jameson Williams.
60:31And on top of that, hopefully just the offensive line plays better than it did last year.
60:36Yeah. They are at least trying adding some new guys up front.
60:39Um, new center should be helpful. I do like petcing, um, over the last couple of seasons when he's been involved with the offense.
60:46So yeah, Jared Goff's been pretty damn reliable from season to season here.
60:50He's finished between 68th and 132nd overall in the last four seasons.
60:54And I kind of have them ranked right between those two numbers and my overall rankings here.
60:59There's not a whole lot to say. There's not going to be like a new version of Jared Goff.
61:04He's right. Skill guys are fantastic. The offensive line is probably a little bit closer to average than being like one of the best in the NFL.
61:12Like it was three, four years ago. Um, so he's, I think an upside quarterback too.
61:17And in any given week, the lines are going to be projected for 32 points at home against a bad defense.
61:23And we'll be ranking Jared Goff is like the quarterback eight in that week.
61:27Talk to me about Tyler Shuck, who you have a couple rounds later than Jared Goff.
61:32So there's a bit of a tear break here.
61:34Small one, um, heading into year two, uh, Kellen Moore play caller.
61:38Tyler Shuck came in about halfway through the year.
61:41You had Chris Olave, uh, and now you add in Jordan Tyson at wide receiver as well.
61:45Yeah. Everything's going up for, for Tyler Shuck. Uh, it wasn't really fantasy relevant for a lot of his rookie season, but
61:52I appreciated what he was doing, throwing the ball down the football field.
61:56He had, he had some moments where he was running by a lot of guys, which, uh, I think it's 40.
62:02They caught people off guard with zone read stuff.
62:05They only did it in like one or two games.
62:07And I don't, I don't think it's going to be like a weekly part of the playbook, but in those games, they really shocked opponents.
62:15I kept calling him Ryan Tannehill in my scouting reports and man, did he really feel like Ryan Tannehill this last year?
62:21And by the way, Tannehill had some, some seasons or some, at least like some months where he was running by a lot of guys.
62:29Um, yeah, I think that Tyson's definitely an upgrade versus what they had at wide receiver two after Shahid was out of there.
62:35And that's when Shuck started playing. Um, and then Jawan Johnson's a serviceable receiving tight end.
62:40The offensive line is actually really good. I think left tackle Calvin Banks is going to be a really good football player.
62:46They got a great right tackle as well. They got a lot of investment into the interior to varying degrees, uh, but
62:53a brand new left guard on top of that.
62:56And we like Kellen Moore and we like Kellen Moore cause he runs a ton of plays.
63:01It's like one of the fastest paced offenses out there.
63:03And I can see them doubling down with that now that they have better wide receivers and Shuck going into year two.
63:10Like if you had to say who's going to be the fastest paced offense in the NFL this year, you had to make a guess.
63:17I would say it's always Kellen Moore. Yeah. I would say it's the trend continues because Willis new play caller love same
63:24Jared golf, new play caller, Tyler Shuck same. And here we go with big Baker Mayfield, new play caller here with Zach
63:30Robinson, who was coming over from the Atlanta Falcons staying in the same division.
63:34Um, and this might be associated and attributed to the quarterback who was working with, but some interesting numbers here for Zach
63:41Robinson, he called play action at by far the lowest rate in the league at just under 10%.
63:46Uh, that could be a thing because they had to run pistol with Kirk cousins and Michael Penix, but it's also tough
63:52to wrap your brain around not running play action.
63:55When B John Robinson is in the backfield behind you.
63:58Uh, and I also felt like as a season went on for Baker, those, those crazy moments that we got to open
64:04the season when he was red hot and among the top scorers at quarterback, he had crazy sack avoidance.
64:10And every time he threw into a tight window, his wide receiver called it.
64:14And then like the final six weeks of the year, uh, he was being brought down every single time there was pressure.
64:21And then every time he threw into traffic, it was being tipped or intercepted.
64:25And like, that's this high wire act. He tries to operate in a quarterback.
64:29I don't really have too much more to say than that.
64:32Like when he's really streaky and the downfield stuff is working, he's a low end quarterback one.
64:37And then when it's not working, he's like in the super flexed here.
64:41So this is, this is like averaging those two things out, losing Mike Evans hurts.
64:45I do think there's a chance a Mecca is like one of those guys and can make up a lot of the difference.
64:52Um, and obviously they got a pretty good offensive line upfront.
64:55So there's a, there's a lot of question marks.
64:58This thing is kind of, it's the variance of the Baker Mayfield throwing the ball down the football field, you know, which is good luck projecting that.
65:06Who was Zach Robinson to you? Or do you want to just want to like table that conversation as we go along this summer?
65:13Uh, he's not a lot. I haven't spent a whole lot of time thinking about Zach Robinson, to be honest.
65:19Yeah. I mean, just looking at his finishes last year for Baker, when you go from week 12 and on quarterback 27,
65:2518, 20, 14, 20, 12, and 17. And that was, you know, compared to a lot of top 10 quarterback stuff early on in the season.
65:33I'm going to add the finish weekly finishes on these little player webpages in the future.
65:37Good note. We've got some time before release. We'll release it to all of you in the public.
65:43So this is just a tease whenever we do one of these videos and you're going to see it a lot more
65:49when you're going to be able to use this site.
65:52Okay. Speaking of play callers, uh, I was amped for what Nick Kaley could bring to CJ Stroud last year.
65:58Uh, and then it got to about week nine and I couldn't tell you like one thing different that Nick Kaley brought to this Texans offense.
66:06So are there any changes that can coax a higher scoring season than quarterback 22 here out of CJ Stroud?
66:11I think he's got the talent for it to matter.
66:14I just think it's such a tight needle to, to thread here because he's not going to be running that much.
66:20And I think if you're just looking at, you know, the David Montgomery addition, and then the guys that they're bringing in
66:27on the offensive line and Nico Collins, there was that report that he's kind of frustrated by the offense.
66:33I wonder if he's kind of reading the tea leaves and be like, Hey, we're going to be a really run heavy offense again.
66:40And it's like, okay, quarterback that doesn't run a lot, run heavy.
66:43CJ Stroud's got to be, you know, like Dak Prescott level to matter at that point.
66:48And I think he can do that. I think we've, we've seen it in glimpses, but I don't think he's earned our
66:54trust for that to be the case in like a baseline ranking.
66:58So, and then on top of that, I would put him into the circling back to our conversation earlier.
67:03His defense is so good that it actually does hurt his fantasy outlook.
67:07You don't have, you don't have to force it.
67:10Like on a third and four, they're going to run the ball and then they'll punt it.
67:15Worst case. And another team with a bad defense, they're throwing the football on those situations.
67:19So I think like the Texans, the Seahawks, like when you get to that tier of defense, your fantasy projections on offense do come down.
67:27And that's the only time where I think that your defensive stats actually matter.
67:31A nine point lead. If you're the Houston Texans is a lot different than if you have a nine point lead as you know, a Dallas Cowboys quarterback.
67:39Yeah. Um, I mean, even as rookie season, CJ Stroud was the quarterback 18 in total points, you know?
67:45So it's just this archetype of a quarterback. Like you said, it's a tough needle to thread in terms of fantasy production.
67:51Now just overall, what can make CJ Stroud get closer to that rookie season with Bobby slowick?
67:56It's being ahead of the sticks on offense. And if they have successful running game, that doesn't lead to third and eight
68:03plus constantly, then that's just an easier avenue to operate in at the quarterback position.
68:07And it just felt like over the last two years, they've been stuck in that department.
68:12And their answer was to, you know, trade for Dave Montgomery and then continue to draft and kind of shuffle these pieces around on their offensive line.
68:20And while maybe not one of the offensive linemen stands out as like a world beater, we always know that if the
68:26five gel, then that can be enough if they all stay healthy.
68:29And if that's the case, then yeah, I mean, getting in third and three and second and four situations would just be
68:36so massive for CJ Stroud to, I think, bounce back in a lot of areas.
68:40I have my doubts on the offensive line still.
68:43If new bodies every year and you look at them, you're like, are they actually any good?
68:48Because at some point they actually, the new bodies have to be good.
68:52And then also is David Montgomery going to be like ripping off like eight yard carries?
68:56I'm not sure. I have my doubts here. Well, one spot after in your rankings is Bryce Young of the Carolina Panthers
69:03as your quarterback 23 low key, a new play caller here with it's taking over for Canales.
69:08I keep saying I think that means some anticipated changes, but I'm kind of the only one bringing that up.
69:14I think they're gonna be more pass heavy just to kind of looking at the changes on the offensive line.
69:20Like they got like smaller and more athletic up front.
69:23Monroe Freeling, I think is going to be excellent on the screen game.
69:26And that he's a very athletic left tackle. That's going to be coming in there.
69:31And obviously when T Mac goes crazy as a rookie and they keep doubling down, I think they're just going to pass
69:37the ball a little bit more here with Bryce Young.
69:40And I think that he actually does run. So his fantasy appeal, you can actually sell me on this.
69:46So I don't think there's pretty much any difference between I would say from shock down to Bryce Young.
69:51I think it's basically the same. And I think that you could sell me that Bryce Young should actually be towards the
69:58top of that, even if I don't like fully trust him all the time.
70:02I do think he played better football and I do think that T Mac makes a huge difference here going into year two.
70:09Yeah. And Jalen Coker being out there, hopefully at all times.
70:12And Jalen Coker wasn't on the field for the start of last season is a big change.
70:17And I have some optimism more so than any other Tennessee wide receiver for Chris Brazel and what he can bring in terms of like stretching defenses.
70:25Yes. They really haven't had like they have towering presences that can, you know.
70:29Really aggravate defenses at multiple areas of the field, but no one of Chris Brazel's skillset here.
70:34Yeah. I think they're going to throw the football down the field more rather than, Hey, it's in the fourth quarter.
70:40It's, you know, fourth and 10 against the lost in this Rams.
70:43You have to convert this past Bryce Young. And oh yeah.
70:47Then there's a 32 yard touchdown pass, like willingly calling those plays.
70:50There was a, in stats versus film, we had this conversation back in like early November that, you know, they were 31st
70:57in attempts of passes, 15 plus yards down the field, 20 plus yards on the field.
71:01And then immediately after that show, they started throwing the football down the field.
71:05And if you always look at those situations, the big time throw rate, the completion percentage, the touchdowns are always very, very high for, for Bryce Young.
71:13So I think like that's an area of the field versus just like clogging everything, the stick routes that we got in his rookie year.
71:21That it's just a nightmare to try to operate in like condensed space.
71:25And I do think my favorite part of Bryce is when he's playing closer to like Joe Burrow, like point guard, throw it out to the sideline immediately.
71:33And even downfield to the sideline immediately. Like that's the best version of Bryce Young.
71:37And I think what we're talking about here is like, that's the style offense we're going to rather than like under center
71:44play action, him having to turn his body and then try to see over his offensive line.
71:49I feel like I didn't like that much with Bryce.
71:51But if they're going more towards where, what he was doing in Alabama, which does feel like that that's where we're going.
71:58I think that would be good news for him.
72:01I do think there are some positives under center play action.
72:04They get some explosives out of there too, but I just think Canal is like, didn't totally get it with his play calling.
72:11Like the, it never felt good to open each of the last two seasons and they kind of figured it out in the second half of the year.
72:19So, uh, you know, being a head coach and a play caller is, is kind of a difficult thing.
72:24It's a lot. Okay. Cam Ward stands here next up year two.
72:28We're kind of fitting that it's talking about Bryce Young right before, because hopefully we can just throw out his rookie season
72:34because it was surrounded by misery from a play caller and a head coach being fired halfway through the year to offensive
72:41linemen, not showing up and wide receivers, not catching the football.
72:44Hopefully a lot of that changes here with Brian Dayball now calling plays and many more added weapons around it.
72:50Yeah. Dayball wants to run his quarterback. I cam Ward is, he has enough athletic tools to run a little bit, but he's never ran before.
72:57So that'd be a little bit interesting to see what they're going to do there.
73:02I'm guessing he's just not going to run that much.
73:05Uh, he was by far the worst quarterback against the blitz negative, uh, 0.40 EPA per drop back there.
73:10Um, the completion percentage on downfield passes was nowhere near good enough.
73:14He was kind of inaccurate there, but also his wide receivers were just beyond brutal down the football field.
73:19And that's where Cardinal Tate's going to come in.
73:22And then Calvin Ridley, like even though we're not expecting Calvin to be Calvin, like he's probably going to play more snaps,
73:29which is means Elika human or it's like not going to be on the good on the football field, which is a good thing for cam Ward.
73:36So offensive line makes me really nervous. Dayball is fine enough for fantasy.
73:40Um, but he's not like a difference making offensive coordinator either.
73:43Cam Ward showed a lot of flashes with his arm to like how many of those like sideline throws did he have
73:50last year where there's like sensational stuff, but the down to down consistency was nowhere near good enough.
73:55And if you look at the negative reports, uh, the negative side of the scouting reports, it was always that he has
74:02this kind of gunslinger mentality that you have to rein in the NFL for it to work.
74:07And like, we didn't see that as a rookie.
74:09So at some point we have to get the consistency going for cam Ward, but I'm expecting a jump here.
74:15I'm actually quite excited about cam Ward. I mean, he had the seventh highest average time to throw last year at just under three seconds.
74:22Um, a lot of that was kind of waiting for his students to get open, uh, and trying to avoid some quick
74:29pressures up front to, um, Wanda Robinson, not a total complete player, but he can win quick, right.
74:34And knows his Brian day ball offense. And then now you have Colonel Tate who could win outside.
74:39He can win down the field. He is a technician.
74:42He is so trustworthy. Um, and then going back to your stuff with the rushing, I remember you and I talking about
74:49Ward coming out of Miami that if table can make cam Ward more of a decisive scrambler, then I think something's there,
74:55you know, when getting North and South and like planning his foot, there was always some hidden rushing upside there with cam Ward.
75:02He just never really liked to do it or wanted to pull that lever.
75:06So it's something that if it can be unlocked, uh, can be a real asset for us here in fantasy.
75:12Yeah. Same thing with Stroud, like Stroud, whenever he takes off, you're like, Oh, like he's a good enough athlete to go do that.
75:19And he just like rarely does. Um, I put cam Ward in the same bucket there.
75:24Let's talk about Sam Darnold, super bowl winner, Sam Darnold.
75:27Uh, some people might say, dang, he was good last year.
75:30Uh, and then he's ranked here as the quarterback 25.
75:33How is that possible? Well, despite having the wide receiver to score last season and just about everything going perfectly from a
75:39Sam Darnold standpoint, he finished about this spot last year and scoring as well.
75:43So I, I kind of think it's just a cap situation, both from a defensive perspective and in just how they want this offense to operate for perfect.
75:52I should put him ahead of cam Ward, at least just looking at this, just, you know, optics wise.
75:57Uh, but like you said, it's the defense was so elite that he did not have to pass the ball at all.
76:04Like there were so many second half where he was like not throwing the ball, uh, that much, he gets really hot
76:10and he's got Jackson Smith and Jigba. And then hopefully she, he, they get like the best of him, um, going into
76:17like a legit, uh, full season with Sam Darnold.
76:19But losing Clint Kubiak has to matter to some degree here.
76:22Um, the defense is probably not going to be quite as good as it was this past season, but they still look really, really good on paper.
76:30So he doesn't run around that much to make up the difference.
76:34So he just has to get red hot in a game or two to have a spike week.
76:39And as you can see on the chart there, he has about two, every 10 games.
76:44And then the rest of the games are pretty mediocre.
76:47So yeah, he's a better real life quarterback than a fantasy quarterback.
76:50Moving on. Uh, and I believe the last name in this tier, it is Daniel Jones.
76:55And I should have mentioned Daniel Jones's name at the start of this because he was being selected as quarterback 29.
77:01And we know that in games that he played in finished much, much, much higher than that in scoring.
77:07Uh, unfortunately he's now being ranked and drafted much closer to that quarterback 29 standpoint.
77:11So are we just dumb? Are we blind or are we just ahead and thinking that he can't get back to the
77:18miraculous play that he had last year? It just depends on the split that you're looking at because I mean, the first,
77:24what, eight games of the season before he actually had his, his setback there, um, or his first injury, he was the quarterback six.
77:31And then the next set of games when he was dealing with that injury, you can see he kind of falls off
77:37into quarterback to land and the offense did not feel as great.
77:41And I think a large part of that is because Daniel Jones is like a legit athlete.
77:46When he's not being, he can't play like an elite athlete, then the rest of the warts kind of creep up more.
77:52And that's what makes you nervous when it's not just an Achilles tear, it's an Achilles tear, uh, in week 14 and
77:59it's to your back foot, which is how you generate power throwing the football down the football field.
78:04You also lost Michael Pittman. It didn't really replace them.
78:07You got a new right tackle who they like in house, but it's not, um, Braden Smith.
78:12Who's been old reliable over there. So I really like Shane Steichen.
78:16The offensive line is still really good. I like downs.
78:18I like Warren. I like, uh, Alec Pierce. The injuries is not good.
78:22So he's at the end of this tier. And they kind of tied themselves to him once they traded all those picks for sauce Gardner.
78:30Okay. Let's go rapid fire through this final tier.
78:32Cause we'll talk about these offenses as we go through this entire off season.
78:36I hope not. Gino Smith. I mean, a lot of jets being drafted early Hayden.
78:41So we're going to talk about Gino Smith and his return to the jets.
78:45Um, this is again, a tight needle to thread when we talk about fancy scoring, because he just has to throw a
78:51bunch of touchdowns in order to be fancy relevant for us.
78:55He was less accurate than he usually was. He was making way worse decisions than he typically was.
79:00I mean, he was just throwing the ball over the football and then over in the middle of the field, right to the linebackers way too much.
79:08Um, and then it's your guy, Frank Reich calling plays over there.
79:11Um, I will say this, but not my guy.
79:14I will say this, not my guy. Um, the jets offensive line is good.
79:18And the skill group has potential. I'm not going to call it good yet because breeze hall has been too inconsistent.
79:24Garrett Wilson is good. And then the rookies, I like the appeal of, but I don't, I'm not sold that they're like
79:31elite players, even though they're both first round picks.
79:33Um, so the good news about Gino Smith is like, could you name the quarterback too?
79:38Like he's not going to get benched for a while.
79:41So in basketball, you're going to get lots of starts out of him.
79:45They're projected for almost no points this season, obviously.
79:47Um, and he played really bad football last year versus the last couple of seasons.
79:52So I don't know what to think about this.
79:54Yeah. It's Bailey Zappy or Brady cook or fourth rounder Cade club.
79:58Nick. I forgot. Oh, I mean, I thought they're going to make a move for, for Andy Dalton or Carson wins or some Russ.
80:05I mean, we, I cannot believe you brought up Russell Wilson's name in this episode.
80:09Cannot believe it. Okay. They asked Gino Smith. Who do you want?
80:13He said, I like Russ. That's what he said.
80:15Speaking of, uh, Aaron Rogers soon to be Russell Wilson, uh, is up next.
80:20I mean, he sucked last year, but he's back in our lives.
80:23I like the Steelers roster. I really do like the rock.
80:26The offensive line has a chance to really gel, whether it's Broderick Jones or Maxi on a chair, what one of the
80:33spots, their other tackle sensational, their center is one of the best centers.
80:37And he's a young player as well. Michael Pittman.
80:39I mean, what a huge upgrade for wide receiver to Michael Pittman over Calvin Austin, whoever else they were throwing out there.
80:46Um, and they still got two nice tight ends and DK Metcalf.
80:49So like you look around, like the, if he can play the guitar at all, they've got a chance.
80:55I don't think he can, you know, I don't, he can't move.
80:58He didn't want to take hits. So I do think Michael Pittman's like perfect for Aaron Rogers though.
81:04Like all those little RPO passes and stuff, you're going to get that out of them.
81:08Um, Rico Dallas basically tried to make DK Metcalf, Michael Pittman last year.
81:12He, he, they tried, they really tried. And that to be fair, they did have that one slant for an ADR touchdown, which was pretty sick.
81:20It's the Vikings. Yeah. Yeah. I remember it. Cause I was going into one of our wider receiver rankings episodes.
81:26Like I can never get DK Metcalf's ranking. Correct.
81:28And I had him really low that week. And then like, right when I turn on the TV, there he is for an ADR.
81:35Okay. Let's talk about the Raiders quarterbacks. You do have Fernando Mendoza ranked ahead of Kirk cousins.
81:40Um, I'm assuming that's because you believe that Fernando Mendoza obviously has more ability.
81:44I do wonder, like, I think Fernando Mendoza is going to start more games this year, but I don't think it's a
81:510% chance that Fernando Mendoza only starts like five games as well.
81:54I think Kirk is probably going to play the first, I would say five to 14 games of the season.
82:00I think that they, I think they want Kirk cousins to be out there for as long as he's capable, you know, which they have all said this.
82:08Tom Brady said, Hey, sitting early helped me. And then if the team owner is saying this, then spy tech is saying it.
82:15Clint Kubiak is saying it who just worked with Sam Darnold, for example.
82:19And so this is like imprinted in the walls of the Las Vegas facility at this moment of, Hey, Kirk cousins is
82:25going to start a whole bunch of games until he basically can't anymore.
82:29It seems like the first report I saw from OTAs, the ESPN reporter who covers the Raiders said Mendoza is not even on the first practice field.
82:37They established a second practice field where Mendoza is going, hanging out with it's AOC behind Kirk cousins.
82:42And so we haven't even gotten him onto the first practice.
82:46It's hard to learn from Kirk cousins when you're not even on the same practice field as Kirk cousins is a weird strategy.
82:52Again, we're going to talk about these offenses a lot throughout the summer.
82:56Jacoby Brissett right now is next up for you as quarterback 30.
83:00Jacoby Brissett, speaking of bad defenses, he had, I think 20 something touchdowns or 19 touchdowns when trailing.
83:05He also had 10 passing touchdowns when leading. He just rips the rock, but right now he's holding out.
83:10He should hold out to be honest, looking at his contract, he's probably five to $10 million under sold because they told
83:17him he's going to be the starter. I don't think he's gonna be the start of the entire season, but it's one
83:23of those that unless the Cardinals are sneaky competitive, Jacoby Brissett's not going to start every game like they will want to
83:30see, you know, their young draft pick. Have you seen their schedule early on?
83:34I'm not into it. The schedule early on, it's like, I mean, it's just like you played the Super Bowl winner five street seasons.
83:41It's not good. Okay, moving on. Let's talk about Deshaun Watson.
83:44Somehow, someway, he's still in our lives. And somehow, someway, he's going to be the starting quarterback if you read every single
83:51report out there from Browns and national writers. So does Deshaun Watson have anything left at this point to, you know, be close to a top 20 score?
83:59Because I would argue like 21 through 31 is just going to change in a given week.
84:04But there's also a chance that he's just so bad that he is stuck in this 26 through 32 every single week of the season.
84:11Most likely scenario is he's a bottom five starting quarterback and then eventually gets benched for Shadour.
84:16I think that there's some scenario that he goes somewhere between where he was an MVP candidate versus where he's been previously.
84:23Did want to just mention like a lot of the guys ahead of him right now, Jacoby Bursette, Geno Smith, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield.
84:30Like a lot of these guys have been fully written off and then like they somehow get back.
84:36Obviously, Deshaun's pathway of doing that is a lot lower odds, but it does happen on occasion.
84:41We like Casey Kinsepsion. We like Fannin. We're okay with Jerry Judy for what he is, I guess.
84:46The offensive line might be one of the worst in the league and Deshaun Watson's sensitivity to pressure.
84:51It's really, really, really brutal. And then Todd Monkens is a good coach.
84:55He is. But for fantasy purposes, it's going to be really slow paced, really run heavy.
85:00Good news is Quintra Judkins looks really healthy right now.
85:02That was really promising. He's gonna be very important for them.
85:06So I think I would take the higher on how many games Deshaun Watson's going to start this year versus the consensus out there.
85:13I think that Monkens and the whole staff doesn't really believe in Shador Sanders and they they're paying Deshaun Watson.
85:19And they know Deshaun's more talented than Shador in general, that they're going to like give him as many chances as as
85:25they possibly can, which is why they keep calling Mary Kay Cabot to release the report that he's going to start.
85:31Like every single week she reports that he's going to be the starter.
85:35Let's close with the Falcons quarterbacks and to a tongue of Iloa and Michael Penix.
85:39I think it's very easy to project and try to predict what Tua looks like in this offense because we just saw
85:46Dylan Gabriel, a lesser version play in a Kevin Stefanski offense.
85:49A little bit less so here with Michael Penix since you know, there's some under center stuff and definitely attacking over the middle field and all of that.
85:57But boy, oh boy, does this quarterback room freaking suck.
86:00It's not going to be fun. It's Drake London, Bijan Pitts and then nothing else beyond that.
86:05But Pitts was really good last year. Yeah, no, Pitts was really good.
86:09And then Drake London's really good when he's out there as well.
86:13So I do think they can do this kind of like RPO style offense with Tua if they wanted to.
86:18And then it's with Penix. It's just a race to get back there.
86:22His ACL tear was in week 11. This is his third or fourth ACL tear.
86:27I forget what it's either one of those. It's never good.
86:30So I'm not sure how quick he's going to be back out there.
86:34I think they would want to see Michael Penix for most of the season.
86:38But if Tua is like keeping them competitive after starting the season because Penix can't get back there in time, I could
86:44see Tua playing for a large chunk of this.
86:47So in basketball, it's hard because you just don't know the exact split.
86:51I think early on it's probably going to be Tua would be my guess.
86:55Even if Penix is already out there practicing, which was kind of surprising to me.
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