0:00Oh, we have a lot to talk about. Week 2 is in the books and it felt a whole lot different than week 1.
0:07Fewer points. And I would say when there are fewer points, then we really get to know exactly how these coaches want
0:14to utilize the football, who they want to get the football to.
0:17Hayden, what's the number that you said? I mean, just an embarrassment of lack of touchdowns to certain positions today.
0:23Yeah, we went over the first hour without a touchdown to a wide receiver or a tight end.
0:28It was an hour and three minutes before Devontae Smith got there.
0:32There's a lot of running back touchdowns, but a full hour in week two is not a good start.
0:38So that means if you're feeling it in your fantasy football lineups, all of us are feeling it in our fantasy football lineups.
0:44Obviously the game by game recap show. We got Ray Garvin, we got Matt Harmon, and we're first going to send it
0:51over to Hayden Winks where yeah, we wouldn't regularly start with a game that's not going to be a good start.
0:57Finish 9-3 as the Vikings top the Chicago Bears.
1:00But there's a whole bunch to dive into here, Hayden, in terms of fantasy assets performing or not.
1:05And then maybe most importantly, at the end of the game, Caleb Williams looks like he's about to scramble in for a
1:12touchdown, grabs his hamstring, slides down, gets carted to the locker room as the Bears fail to score a single touchdown after
1:18putting 59 points on the board last week. Let's start with the Vikings because they won this game 9-3.
1:24They did not score a touchdown. The primary two takeaways were, once again, this is a very run-heavy game script for the Vikings.
1:3013 out of their 20 series started with a run.
1:33And who was out there? It was Aaron Jones for nearly almost every single snap.
1:38He left momentarily with a knee injury, but he did return.
1:41It was 90% of the snaps at halftime finishes with 23 carries in this one.
1:46The Bears did a pretty good job of slowing things down in general.
1:49And then through the past game, they just did not have to rely on Carson Wentz.
1:54Carson Wentz had a really bad almost interception on the first drive.
1:58Then had a really hilarious sequence where he was trying to set players in motion before the snap.
2:03The ball goes over his head. There was immediately too many negatives, and then they just said, we're going to get rid
2:09of the Carson Wentz stuff because the defense was so successful.
2:13Justin Jefferson, he had a defensive holding called on Tyreek Stevenson.
2:16That probably would have been a 70-yard touchdown. Aside from that, not a whole lot through the past game.
2:22So maybe, Matt, I'll kick it over to you.
2:24Aaron Jones, 90% of the snaps at halftime, 23 carries in this one.
2:28We're not going to get Jordan Mason for a long time.
2:31I'm not sure if we're going to get Aaron Jones for a long time, but I'm kind of looking at this as like a top 15 running back.
2:40Is that too crazy? I don't think that's crazy.
2:42I mean, again, this is a weird game too, right?
2:45I mean, you watched more of it, obviously, than I did, but weather-impacted game for sure all throughout.
2:51But at the same time, I think Aaron Jones comes out of this pretty well.
2:55And yeah, he might not be around for long, but I mean, this is one of those moments where it doesn't feel
3:01like I'm tempting fate by saying, what else are they going to do?
3:05Like DJ Dallas is a special teams player. Damond Claiborne is a rookie that is a sub 190 pounds.
3:11Like this is going to be the Aaron Jones show for as long as he can handle it.
3:16And I'm certainly going to be more interested in this offense next week when it looks like Kyler Murray will be back.
3:23Hey, Dan, talk us through the opposite end, because I know that really weather won in this one.
3:28That's why we only got 12 points combined. How much of a factor was that?
3:33And then how different did the Bears offense just generally look versus last weekend's laser show?
3:37Yeah, definitely weather mattered here a lot. Even KOC after the game, he said when he was walking on the field, like
3:44as a coach, like his feet were like completely sinking into the grass there.
3:48So weather definitely impacted this one. The Bears, though, it was not just because of the hamstring injury with Caleb.
3:54They were not moving the ball very successfully at all.
3:57And they're still doing the weird stuff with the rotation.
4:00Like, for example, Luther Burden, 55% of the snaps at halftime.
4:03That was behind Kalief Raymond. By the way, Luther Burden, it's the non three wide receiver set snaps.
4:08That's been the hang up at one point. That was about 27% of them.
4:12But then even like Colson Loveland, who obviously we've been drafting super high on him.
4:17He had some moments as like a wide zone blocker, but he's been blocking a whole lot more than receiving.
4:23He comes up empty on this one. Fantasy points.
4:25And unfortunately, on the last play of the game with Tyson Bajan trying to march in for like a rescue game winner.
4:32He's left in not as a receiver. He's left in the block.
4:35Dallas Turner, who walks him back for the sack to walk this thing off.
4:40Dallas Turner, by the way, he's been an absolute monster for back to back games.
4:44Like there's some free pressures for him, certainly. But he's a way more physical player for them.
4:49Like that's the type of player that makes his Vikings defense really go.
4:53The Vikings once again blitz 77% of the time.
4:56Ironically, though, it was the place without the blitz were the problem for the Bears against the blitz.
5:01They were actually OK. There's the problem was like Dallas Turner was kind of chasing down Caleb Williams, who was not very comfortable for most of this game.
5:09Ray, I got to ask you, I know you haven't reviewed the tape, but let's say in one of your leagues, you
5:16drafted Colson Loveland through two games, one reception for three yards in that round four territory.
5:20That was so rich with talent. What's your panic meter right now?
5:24Total panic right now on Colson Loveland. I'm not at coping corner, which is like the most extreme of panic meter panics.
5:30But this is not what I signed up for.
5:33It's it's I mean, and then just to put the icing in the cherry on top, he gets absolutely destroyed by Dallas
5:40Turner to give up the sack at the end of the game.
5:43One catch three yards. It's if you would have I'm telling you all right now, I would have bet my mortgage if
5:50you would have said, right, what's the probability that Kalief Raymond would have 13 catches on the season in the combined trio of burden?
5:57Odunze and Loveland would have 14 on the year.
5:59I'd be homeless. I'd be out on the street right now because I say there's not a chance in hell that would even be possible.
6:07I am on full panic mode. And like Hayden said, the Bears look kind of stank before Caleb Williams went out.
6:13And I get the fact that the weather was bad, but I don't know how you slice this like this is not
6:20what you signed up for two weeks in the season.
6:23But on Kalief Raymond, his A.D. this one, 1.4 yards down the football field, that was something that the Chicago Bears were not able to do.
6:30And I think a lot of times when you think like Brian Flores bringing all this pressure, just beat him over the top.
6:37Pretty much no team playing Brian Flores even tries to pass the ball over the top.
6:42There was one completion from Caleb Williams beyond eight air yards in this one.
6:46When you have like six guys crowding the line of scrimmage, you don't know who's coming.
6:51Typically what happens is the running backs don't go out in the route.
6:54Sometimes the tight ends don't go out in the route.
6:57And they just kind of pepper like this little slot player.
7:01And that's exactly what Brian Flores wants because those guys were kind of swarming there.
7:05So it wasn't even like the most effective stuff from Caleb or Kalief Raymond.
7:09And then some of the Roma Dunes stuff, that was kind of like out of out of structure as well.
7:15It's like nothing came easy for Caleb Williams and Tyson Bajan at the end of there.
7:20And if they didn't get DeAndre Swift for a couple of nice receptions underneath, which was like kind of like throw the
7:26ball out to the flats, a little screen play, kind of catch them slipping a little bit.
7:31That was like the only effective stuff that they had here, because even against the ground, like DeAndre Swift, 2.8 yards per carry.
7:38Kyle Menunga had a couple of nice runs, but nothing too crazy here.
7:42And just the Vikings defense was swarming. And then last note real quick, DeAndre Swift at the goal line, Jalen Redman, a
7:49defensive tackle for the Vikings, who's just been a monster.
7:51He keeps popping up on tape every single time I watch him punches the ball out.
7:56That was like obviously a huge part of this game.
7:59So, yeah, really like nothing going here from the Bears moving the ball down the field.
8:04Matt, just to reset here. I just want to go through the Bears receivers.
8:08DeAndre Swift, leading receiver, five receptions, 54 yards. Roma Dunes, three for 43 on four targets.
8:13Kalief Raymond, as we put up on the screen, five for 40.
8:16Luther Burden, three for 32. Then all the way down below Sam Rauch is Colston Loveland, one for three.
8:22So Hayden mentioned, you know, some rotation here or there.
8:25And Matt, I don't want to spend an eternity on Kalief Raymond.
8:28But if I was to zoom out and try to picture why a 32-year-old Kalief Raymond with a history with Ben Johnson
8:35is heavily involved in comparison to some other pieces that we highly drafted that are not heavily involved.
8:40Some of it's the defenses that they faced, like with the Panthers.
8:44They have great outside corners. They try to play coverage in the back half.
8:48And he was just open on the reads underneath in the quick areas.
8:52Right. This one, some of the same thing as Hayden mentioned, they'll rush and muddy up the gaps and then they'll play coverage in the back half.
9:00And then you have that open area. I would say, obviously, the Bears scored a bunch of points last week.
9:06But if you want to be better in that area, then like get guys who can win after the catch a little bit more.
9:13Obviously, with Colston Loveland and Luther Burden there. But Matt, I would love your input here.
9:17Yeah. I mean, Raymond is a really solid player.
9:20You know, he's had his moments in the NFL.
9:23Like you said, he knows the system. He's an inside out option for this team.
9:27Good news, bad news for the Bears. They play on Monday night.
9:31So theoretically, next week, theoretically, Caleb Williams can get back for that one.
9:35Maybe if he's got a little extra day. Bad news.
9:38They play the Philadelphia Eagles, which is not exactly the unit I'd be wanting to go up against if I got to fix some of these problems.
9:46You know, I also think, too, just on specifically on Raymond, I think he's going to be a little bit pesky for this team all year.
9:53And I kind of think that was something we maybe should have talked about in the offseason more.
9:59I know Nate and I briefly talked about it on players that were better in real life than fantasy football, that he
10:05was going to have an impact for this team.
10:08I think it's going to continue to happen. And I do think it really like his skill set, at least how they've
10:14used him so far in the short areas and kind of finding soft spots and zones.
10:19That is probably going to be a problem for a guy like Luther Burton, who I still want to say is probably
10:25not 100 percent healthy after being injured throughout training camp.
10:28But I am a little worried there's a little bit overlapping skill sets between those two guys.
10:33In addition to the fact, like, Hayden, I thought there was one point like Sam Rauch got like a designed target inside the scoring area.
10:41I don't know. It did not end well. Spoiler alert for everybody else out there.
10:45It does feel like maybe the Bears are maybe a little bit too cute, maybe feeling themselves after a great week one.
10:52Yeah. Sam Rauch dropped a couple of passes in this one just was really brutal spots.
10:57But I agree. Just watching both the Luther Burton games, he's not getting like a bunch of like the manufacturer touches that you would necessarily see.
11:04There's also like a really interesting sequence at the end of the game when Bajam was trying to win that game.
11:10Luther Burton gets tackled inbounds. I thought there was a chance that he could have got out of bounds.
11:16They're kind of scrambling around. They throw the ball up to Luther Burton, who wasn't even expecting the ball to come his way.
11:23And that was almost an interception. It's kind of like back to back plays from Luther Burton where like not everything was kind of checking out.
11:31So, yeah, I agree. The Khalif Raymond stuff, like he's just kind of sitting there underneath.
11:35And that's been like a lot of like the most successful plays.
11:39Like those, they have been working, unfortunately, for Chicago.
11:41Hayden, I know you haven't watched all 22. How would you use Colson Loveland differently?
11:46Yeah, I mean, I would use him. I mean, I don't even know differently.
11:50I would just use him. Can I just use him?
11:53I don't even know what's different about it. Just use him.
11:56Yeah, I'll have to go back and watch this one.
11:59You can't even say it's like the weather, though, because he's not going to be winning down the football field all that often.
12:06There was a couple of times where he was like isolated out there, but the ball is just like not going his way.
12:13I will say I did not like the games on the line and he's blocking the defensive end now instead of being out there.
12:20Right. To me, like that's like, OK, we can at least do better than that.
12:24Final question. We know that Caleb gets carted off in tears, gives a thumbs up.
12:29I mean, as soon as it happened, it looked really bad.
12:32I'll be it. You saw him grab that hamstring.
12:35Hayden, what is the latest? Like apparently he walked through the locker room with reporters with no limp and no crutches or anything.
12:41So it's not a complete tear off the bone.
12:44I mean, seeing that visual and then with him potentially after imaging maybe tomorrow, maybe not missing that much time would be truly amazing.
12:51Yeah. Hamstring just depends on the severity of it.
12:54It was definitely the hamstring kind of that move where he's like picks up both of his feet when he's getting chased down.
13:01And he does evade a lot of sacks and that.
13:04But in the rain, it was just a little bit too much here.
13:07So, yeah, who knows? Like if it's a really serious one, it's it's months.
13:12Most of the time it's weeks. I will say this.
13:15A lot of the best plays from Caleb Williams this year and last year is him buying time, throwing the ball down the field and obviously the scrambling.
13:23Like even if he does come back and let's say like hopefully it's in the next couple of weeks, like is it going to be the same version?
13:31Because that's a lot of the plays in that week one game where we're him buying a lot of time or scrambling himself.
13:38Yeah. All right. We'll move on. There were two games in week two where the eight and a half point underdogs won outright.
13:45And that includes here the New Orleans Saints on the road in Baltimore beat the Ravens 24 to 17.
13:50And I'm kind of looking at this box score, Ray, and I can't really tell how they did it.
13:56OK, now Tyler Shuck does have two touchdowns in the day, one passing, one rushing, 252 yards.
14:01We'll go through all this. Obviously, Chris Olave, fantastic with 10 targets, eight receptions, 86 yards.
14:06But it's not like we got any answers with our backfield weirdness, did we?
14:10We did not. And well, actually, Josh, I may change it.
14:13I think we did get a little bit of an answer.
14:16And it's not the answer that anybody wants to hear.
14:19I just don't know if Travis A-Chan is that dude for this offense.
14:23It does not appear to be so. Going into halftime, it was nine rush attempts or nine touches for Alvin Kamara to two to Travis A-Chan.
14:31It does not seem like they want to feature him for whatever reason.
14:35Yet I'm watching this game. And it was very obvious that the coaching from Kellen Moore, he outcoached the other side of the ball.
14:42Jesse Minter and the Baltimore Ravens. Tyler Shuck outplayed Lamar Jackson.
14:45I know their numbers are close, but it just felt like Baltimore never really, never really could get their foot on New Orleans and to put them away.
14:53Going into halftime, the game was, I believe, 14 to six going into halftime.
14:57And Baltimore only got, what, three more points. They only scored one more touchdown after that.
15:02It was 14 to six at halftime. And then they only managed a few more points after this.
15:07And you look at what Baltimore did. It was Lamar running around for his life.
15:12I've talked about it at great length that Lamar Jackson does not prioritize the wide receiver two in his offense.
15:18And I'm watching this and it's a problem. Okay.
15:20Rashad Bateman had a great game, but you know what?
15:23He wasn't the wide receiver two today. He was the wide receiver one.
15:27So he sort of stepped in to the Zay Flowers role.
15:31Downfield stuff. He got a shot early in the game.
15:33A seam route up the middle for a touchdown.
15:36Like he was the primary target. And Mark Andrews, I asked you about him last week, Josh.
15:41He looked good again. And he left a couple of yards on the field due to a couple of penalties.
15:47So Mark Andrews is a strong play. But there is nobody else to take pressure off of Lamar.
15:52And when the running game really couldn't get going today, Derek Henry had a couple of decent runs.
15:58But by and large, it was three yards here, five yards there, a six-yard game.
16:02But he wasn't able to get loose. And then New Orleans just kept chipping away, chipping away, chipping away.
16:08Devon Vele is a solid role player. Juwan Johnson, a very solid tight end that people don't like.
16:13Chris Olave is a stud. And when you look at this backfield rotation, Alvin Kamara, five catches for seven yards.
16:19I don't know what the average is for that.
16:22What, a yard per catch for Alvin Kamara? A little over that.
16:25But they continue to utilize him throughout the entire game.
16:28Thank goodness Travis Etienne got one of those plays where he had almost scored a touchdown.
16:33They call it back through to a penalty. But I do think there are answers, Josh.
16:38And the answer isn't what we want to hear.
16:40I don't think he is the bell cow running back for this Calamore offense.
16:44Harmon, is this Travis Etienne contract just money laundering staring us in the face?
16:49I mean, it's more that than like, hey, we're going to use you as a workhorse.
16:53Is it not? I didn't hear a single kind of justification last week from any fantasy content creator that I consume, you
17:00know, about like why this was going to be okay for Travis Etienne with the rotation that we saw in week one
17:06that didn't involve, but they paid him a lot of money.
17:10Are they paying a lot of money? I mean, that's great.
17:13Like the direct deposit is hitting for Travis Etienne, but the fantasy usage is not.
17:17And he comes away, you know, with the touchdown taken back here, which I guess you could say, like if that had
17:24happened, we'd probably save the day for him. But he is someone that I'm worried that when we do the episode tomorrow
17:30that I might be putting him in the coping corner already.
17:34I mean, what else is going to change about this?
17:36I don't know. On third and fourth downs, CJ Donaldson, 15 of 17 snaps.
17:41So that's the first problem. Someone that we've never heard of is playing almost every single snap, even with Alvin Kamara.
17:47So that leaves Alvin Kamara with playing on the early down snaps, which is what Travis Etienne was supposed to get 90% of this one.
17:54So I think he is going to get the goal line role like we saw that in this one.
18:00But you can't be a 50% player on early downs and get zero of the third and fourth down snaps and be a fourth round player.
18:08So it's pretty much over for Travis Etienne until something changes.
18:11I mean, Ray, maybe it's pointless of me trying to work through this decision making.
18:15But is it potentially that Kellen Moore and company signed Travis Etienne?
18:19They got in camp and they kind of just realized he's not as good as we thought he was.
18:24Or is this all, hey, we want to split the backfield as much as possible and we'll pay him, you know, that
18:31type of running back salary and still only use them a third to a half of the time?
18:36Can I say both things can be true? I mean, everybody on this panel has had multiple conversations with players who have
18:43played in the NFL, listening to what happens behind the scenes on the practice field.
18:47It doesn't take long, right? Once you get into camp, once you start playing, like it doesn't take by week six for
18:54the NFL coach to figure out if this guy's good or this guy's going to be a player or have a bigger role or a smaller role.
19:02Like, you know pretty quickly what you've got in somebody very early on.
19:05And I'm trying to think back to the summer where there are tea leaves that we were just ignoring and missing, that
19:12they were using multiple backs in camp, that he wasn't going to be this workhorse.
19:16Watching the flow of the game, y'all, it wasn't like they got blown out and they take him off the field.
19:23Alvin Kamara was on the field early down situations, third down situations.
19:26He was not on the – it was never, never one point in time did you feel like, oh, this is a Travis Atran drive.
19:34It's – he gets a few touches, then they pull him off the field, they put in Alvin Kamara.
19:39I think both of these things could be true, Josh.
19:42Maybe he's not as good as they thought he was and maybe they just want to use multiple running backs.
19:48But through two weeks, I'm with you, Harmon. Like, what's the excuse this week?
19:52I don't know. I don't have a good one, I'll tell you that.
19:56Can we talk about the player who's good on this team, Chris Olave?
20:00How many receivers in fantasy football would we all want to have rather than Chris Olave right now?
20:05I think it's a short list. Good question. I closed with him as a fringe top 20 player in my overall rankings,
20:12and he has been just every time I've watched the tape, seeing the game today.
20:16Like, he's a stud. He's doing everything right now.
20:19There's not – like I remember saying a couple times on the pod, it might have been with – I mean, it
20:25probably was with all three here because we all talk so much.
20:29But I was like, what's the difference between Chris Olave and Drake London when Drake London was going in the second round
20:35and Chris Olave is going in the third round?
20:38Quite a bit of a difference now between what's going on with Drake London and what's going on with Chris Olave.
20:4423 targets for Olave through two games. 23 targets and I'd say conservatively another 40, 50 yards left on the field due to some drops or a penalty.
20:52He looks outstanding. Every quadrant of the field, Matt, when you chart him at some point in the season, I mean, it's
20:59just going to be green all over. The place because he's running every route, coming down with every catch, and he just
21:05looks like he's having fun with that mushroom on top of his head.
21:09At this point, it's going to take Carson Loveland the whole season to get 23 targets.
21:14Okay. Oh, yeah. On the Ravens, last week, I thought that Declan Doyle and Lamar Jackson were awesome together, that they were on the same page.
21:22Ray, did they still look good together? Like, were they chaining runs and passing plays and bootlegs and movement and all that type of stuff?
21:29And was the difference that, hey, Zay Flowers isn't out there and he is by far and away their best pass catcher?
21:36The first scripted, like the first scripted package that they came out with, I was like, okay, this is Baltimore.
21:42They look good. Rashad Bateman is stepping up. He's going to be in the Zay Flowers role.
21:47But once they got through that first 15, 20 plays on the play sheet, they didn't have answers.
21:52They didn't have answers. I know there were some issues and some concerns about Ronnie Stanley playing, and then they've got Carson Benson in there at offensive tackle.
22:00Lamar was under duress all day. Derek Henry really couldn't get going.
22:04And Josh, I truly believe the biggest problem with Baltimore, probably if you go back the past couple of years, is their
22:10inability to find somebody else to throw to when the primary target is occupied or covered up.
22:15Rashad Bateman had a great game. But we need Bateman to be good when Zay Flowers is on the field.
22:21We need when one of them are out, somebody else has to step up.
22:25Maybe that was supposed to be Jacoby Lane. Maybe that gives you some hope for one of those younger guys down the line.
22:32But it's a big problem. When Bateman was covered up, there were no other answers.
22:36It was pray to Mark Andrews, dump the ball to Derek Henry or Lamar Jackson, scramble around.
22:42They have to find another option. Yeah. I'm sure Ravens fans thought that, you know, a 14-point fourth quarter would leave when
22:48Harbaugh left and these wonky, weird losses would go away.
22:51But that certainly was not the case here. All right.
22:54It is time to talk about the most disappointing team in the NFL.
22:58Not just to me, but also to the markets.
23:00That's the LA Chargers as they lose 26-14 at home here against the Las Vegas Raiders.
23:05I'm going to take you to the end of game sequence because I think it's very indicative of where the Chargers are at right now.
23:13So they're down three, five minutes to go with the ball in their hands.
23:17They're down three, five minutes to go with the ball in their hands.
23:21Deep in their own territory, Justin Herbert fumbles on a sack on third and eight, but the ball falls forward.
23:26They recover it. So it turns into a fourth and one.
23:30Clint Kubiak on the opposite sideline calls a timeout.
23:32Out of that timeout, the Raiders then have 12 men on the field.
23:36So they have to run a play. The Chargers get a new sequence of events.
23:41Automatic first down at midfield. On the very next carry, Amar Hampton fumbles it up the gut and the game ends with Cody White.
23:48Yes. Name seven teams that Cody White has played for in the NFL.
23:52Scores his second touchdown of the game. And his first, by the way, was one of the best catches of the weekend.
23:58Ripped it out of the Chargers' DB's hands. I mean, this game was so sloppy on both ends, but especially when we're talking about the LA Chargers.
24:06There were three false starts for Joe Alt at home.
24:09If you want to call this a home game for the LA Chargers.
24:13A beautiful ball to David Njoku that he bobbled led to Justin Herbert's first interception.
24:17By the way, David Njoku carted off with, I believe, a knee injury.
24:21A cover two hole shot to Quentin Johnson that was dropped along the sideline.
24:25Brennan Thompson drops a 15-yarder because he was playing a lot more than Ladd McConkie in the first half.
24:31And then third and short for the Chargers on one snap.
24:34Order of operations not there. The snap hits Trey Harris in motion and the Chargers fall on the fumble.
24:40Really, truly, the best part of this game, other than Cody White, was Hayden's guy, Trey Tucker.
24:45He made good on a slip early in the game that caused an interception.
24:49But man, he made up for it. 40-yard touchdown.
24:52Deep post in the first half. Kirk longest throw of the season.
24:55Until another post shot to Trey Tucker later on for a 42-yard gain with intense interior pressure on Kirkko.
25:01It's almost a no-look pass. And don't look out now, Hayden, as the Las Vegas Raiders are 2-0.
25:06Yeah, Trey Tucker better be on the sting thumbnail.
25:09That's all I'll say about that. I think what's shocking about the Chargers, and obviously we'll get to their offense, is the
25:15defense is just giving up big chunk plays. And then Derwin James in the first game on one-on-one situations, he was getting beats.
25:22Like, their best players aren't really showing up. They don't really have any edge rushers right now that are standing out.
25:28And some of those deep passes from Kirk Cousins there, he's got all the time in the world.
25:34That is as big of a problem, the defense is, as the offense.
25:37And that's shocking because the defensive coordinator, he left.
25:40But you figure that they would have some semblance of a defense.
25:44I hear you. However, they were fantastic at stopping the run in this game.
25:48Ashton Gentry goes 21 carries for 48 yards. Ashton Gentry was a part of the problem, too.
25:53He had three drops in this game, multiple on third and fourth downs.
25:57There's also a sequence where he got three carries inside the five-yard line, including a wildcat on fourth and one, and never
26:03got into the end zone on that. So there's a huge difference between his week one and his week two.
26:09But Hayden, like, other than Trey Tucker, like, Derek Young was the next leading receiver for the Raiders at 27 yards.
26:15Jack Bash at 25 yards. To me, it kind of comes back to the offense is putting the defense in terrible, terrible situations.
26:22Like, the Chargers really had one good drive. It was out of half, let off with a 53-yard catch by Trey Harris,
26:29wide open after Justin Herbert climbs the pocket. And they had a red zone touchdown very shortly after that to a Rondé
26:35Gadsden, where there was this weird, awkward action in the backfield that makes Justin Herbert look in the opposite direction.
26:41Max Crosby is left unblocked somehow, some way Justin Herbert freezes him, climbs the pocket, and throws the touchdown.
26:47But other than that, it just looks like the Chargers are not practicing between these games.
26:51And I understand that they are. But, Matt, it really has gotten to this point where this Mike and Daniel offense, it wasn't ready in week one.
26:59It's not ready in week two. And I question when it is going to be ready because the Chargers really needed to
27:06win their first two games against the Cardinals and the Raiders.
27:09Because after this, it's the Bills, Seahawks, Broncos, Chiefs, Rams, Texans, Ravens.
27:13Good luck to you. Oh, man. Brutal, brutal schedule coming in here now at this point.
27:17I mean, this is one of the biggest shocks of the first two weeks of the season that this team has been.
27:24I could see them being like a slow, you know, slow-ish start team just because it's a new offense.
27:29It's really different. All the motions and all the personnel groupings that they want to put on the field, that's fine.
27:36I also think without Ladd McConkie, they're banged. And Ladd McConkie was, at least to the route participation numbers, like fake active today.
27:42He was out there, but he was not in a full-time role, which is at least, you know, I think you can pretty much expect that.
27:50I know he had like one great catch that I saw in cut there.
27:54Also got looked like he got kind of smoked on that one, too.
27:58That's going to be tough for Ladd all season long.
28:01But yeah, I don't know. This is one of the biggest shocks to me of the first two weeks of the season
28:08that they have looked this bad and this like disorganized so far to me, Josh.
28:12Yes. Yeah. It's just way too much window dressing and stuff going on before the snap rate.
28:17Go ahead. No, I'm just going to say this is a fantasy football show.
28:21But I truly believe that I am surrounded by three of the best just straight-up ball knowers in the fantasy football game.
28:28So kudos to this crew. I want to give some flowers and appreciation to Clint Kubiak.
28:32Like this Raiders team, we're talking about how big of a shock it is for the Chargers.
28:37I don't recognize this team. Like they look completely different on both sides of the ball.
28:42It's not perfect, but I tweeted it out. If there was a coach of the year two weeks into the NFL season,
28:49Clint Kubiak has got to be at the top of the list.
28:52I mean, they're playing good on both sides of the ball.
28:55And it almost makes you forget that they picked Fernando Mendoza number one overall in the NFL draft because it's like Cousins is serviceable enough.
29:03This takes credit to the culture change in Las Vegas because this team is playing damn good football right now.
29:09To that point, Ray, we just talked about, and we'll get into Ladin McConkie with the Chargers, but their passing game not looking solid without him.
29:16You could kind of say the same thing about Zay Flowers and the Ravens who we just talked about, a bunch of these other teams.
29:24And yet the Raiders have not had Brock Bowers in the first two games, and they are 2-0.
29:29That is just good coaching. When you elevate role players like Trey Tucker is, like Derek Young, like Jack Bash, like Cody
29:36White over these last two weeks, like that is exactly what good coaching is.
29:40Just quickly on Ladin McConkie, I think he played like three of the first 14 plays for the opening 13 snaps.
29:46Okay. That included third and five, third and eight, third and 11.
29:50He was all on the sideline. Now that changed in the second half when this team had to have him on the field.
29:56He ended up, I think, running a route on 24 of 34 dropbacks.
30:00And he then did play a bunch of third downs.
30:03But it just, it wasn't enough. And yeah, without him, like again, when a veteran David Njoku drops a pass and QJ
30:10drops a pass and all this type of stuff.
30:12And again, as we have seen with Justin Herbert, when things are kind of going poorly and he feels like he has
30:19to play Superman Hayden, he just forces throws that he shouldn't.
30:22He forces mistakes and he doesn't live for the next down.
30:25And that definitely came back to bite him in this game too.
30:29I'm a little bit worried about Justin Herbert in that looking at the numbers, the pass protection, it's not like that he was under duress.
30:36According to PFF, it's like 26% pressure rate. And when I was watching the first game, there were some times where I
30:43thought Justin Herbert was just like either not pulling the trigger or like a little bit more inaccurate.
30:48Now, obviously you have drops to Quinton Johnson. I saw one with a rookie as well.
30:53The David Njoku interception drop, fumble, whatever we're calling that, was just like hilarious.
30:57But there's been some times where there's like keeping a lot of guys in.
31:01There's like two guys out in the route and there's, you know, seven, eight guys in coverage and Justin Herbert's not seeing it well.
31:08And he just kind of chucking it downfield with like very little success.
31:12Like I'm a little bit worried about just Justin Herbert's feel in this offense early on.
31:17Yeah, none of it looks easy at this moment.
31:19And while we can say the running game, which should be Mike McDaniel's staple, 23 carries, which is a career high for
31:26Martin Hampton, 94 yards and a touchdown. And he and Keaton Mitchell had this one nice drive.
31:31It was like chunk gain after chunk gain. And that's when Hampton got down to the one yard line and scored again.
31:37He fumbled the game away and he is just like a magnet to contact.
31:42The dude wants to like get hit every single time he carries the ball.
31:46He doesn't want to juke anyone out. He doesn't want to run this space.
31:50He just wants to run into three defenders. And that shows up a lot.
31:54And that's very different than like the Devon H.
31:57And of the Miami Dolphins and a bunch of the other backs that have had a lot of success here.
32:03So there's not much else to say here. I mean, again, the Chargers need to start 2-0 and they're 0-2 and they
32:09have to learn on the fly fast. I think we, you know, made the point that these new play callers, it's going to take some time.
32:17But I would say that the Chargers are the most behind of any team in the league right now.
32:22And the markets keep giving them a lot of credit.
32:25And I think that's about to change swiftly here in week three.
32:29All right, Matt. Let's talk about it. Broncos, Jaguars, some of our favorite players that we drafted this summer are involved here.
32:35But there was one man, one name that we needed a big rebound from.
32:40And his, for our pride, name was Jalen Waddle.
32:4210 targets, 8 receptions, 138 yards, which is 106 more than the next closest Bronco, whose name is Nate Atkins, as the
32:49Broncos win at home 20-13 over the Jaguars. Thank God for, yeah, all the YouTube comments for the at mentions.
32:55Jalen Waddle has a big game. And it was pretty apparent pretty early, even before the Broncos offense found themselves that Jalen Waddle was going to be back.
33:03He had 92 of his total yards from the slot, but he wasn't a primary slot player.
33:08He was like 26% from the slot in terms of snaps.
33:11But when he was in there, you know, the targets per route juiced up.
33:15They really want to get him these explosive plays.
33:18They also manufactured some stuff for him. But it was really within the flow of the offense, too, just both down the
33:24field and also like in cuts in the intermediate area.
33:27This was the theory of the case of why you get Jalen Waddle here.
33:32And again, this was not a perfect outing by the Denver Broncos offense by any means.
33:36But they did settle down in the second half.
33:39I think a good chunk of that, like a good bit of the credit does have to go to Jonah Coleman getting
33:45in there, who is going to be one of the biggest waiver wires of the week.
33:50We'll be like the first people to tell you that we won't be the last.
33:55Um, because after he was dropped last week by a lot of people.
33:58Yeah, seven. He was dropped in 7% of Yahoo leagues.
34:01He's currently rostered in 26% of Yahoo leagues. So yeah, I mean, listen, he's going to be picked back up.
34:07He should be picked back up. I don't think J.K.
34:10Dobbins has looked all that great to start the season.
34:13And now he's dealing with he's dealing with the hamstring injury also in pass protection to J.K.
34:18Dobbins has made a lot of mistakes that continued once again today, which is weird because he's a veteran back and played for this team last year.
34:26And Jonah Coleman is one of the best pass protecting backs in the NFL draft class.
34:31Uh, I actually had him on the forecast at one point during the, the off season.
34:36And he talked about, uh, before the draft, you know, just how much pride he took in like pass protection, uh, catching
34:42the ball, like being a reliable player. And you gotta, you know, that Sean Payton had to love that Jonah Coleman with
34:49about two, less than three minutes left in this game slides in bounds to keep the clock rolling so that they can
34:55just ice this game to ultimately win it. Cause like I said, not a perfect outing by the Denver Broncos offense.
35:01They still have some things they need to work on here.
35:05Um, Bo Nix through a ghastly interception in the end zone, uh, on a slot fade to Cortland Sutton that just like, wasn't even close.
35:12But I think Jonah Coleman kind of settling down the run game and Jalen Waddle being exactly what they bargained for.
35:18And we all bargained for in fantasy football. It was the biggest stories of the day.
35:23Matt, can we double click on Jalen Waddle? I see that he got a couple of screens, but if you remove those
35:29screens, his ADOT was 20 yards down the field.
35:32Could we, uh, explain why and how that happened?
35:35That is one thing like coming out of week one.
35:38And I wrote this for a RP that like was maybe a difference in what I expected his, you know, kind of usage to be.
35:45It's a little bit like all or nothing in that way.
35:48I'm not going to call it like the Marvin Mims role.
35:52Uh, but it is very much like, you know, where, where Mims is pretty much all screens and go routes and corners
35:58and posts, but there is a decent bit of that for Jalen Waddle here.
36:02So they're definitely going to, he might be a little bit more boomer bus than I Bart, than I like really wanted him to be.
36:10If he's going to reach that absolute upside case.
36:12But I mean, again, the offense was not clicking today and he still had these major, major booms.
36:18So, um, even his first like big play of the day, it's on a post route from the slot, uh, where he
36:24just gets loose against zone coverage and he goes down at the one yard line.
36:29They don't punch the ball in by the way.
36:31Uh, cause that was when the offense was not in, in a good spot in short yardage situations.
36:37But yeah, so I do think there might be a little bit more volatility to his role, but I think that's something
36:43really worth living through because you see what the upside is here.
36:47Ray, just to rewind here on, on Jonah Coleman.
36:49I think it was three different shows. I talked about it this week where the Broncos in week one against the chiefs kind of lack sparks everywhere.
36:57And I'm glad they got Jalen Waddle involved here.
37:00But to me, when you have the compounding RG Harvey being out JK Dobbins at his age, and then maybe some frustration
37:06about the offense being able to at least move the chains efficiently that all kind of stepped up for a guy in
37:13Jonah Coleman that got zero snaps in week one, once he gets his opportunity.
37:17And once he looks good to then like rip away and bite into some real opportunity.
37:22And it looks like from listening to what Matt is saying, Ray, that he did that.
37:27Yeah. And this is one of the guys coming out of college, right?
37:30Before he was drafted out of Washington, Jonah Coleman was the same physical, no nonsense, explosive hammer at the University of Arizona.
37:37And when you think about Sean Payton, the running backs that he's had of the past, and then Jonah Coleman sort of
37:43archetype and profile, very, very reminiscent of a Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas type player.
37:48I'm watching JK Dobbins the same way y'all are.
37:50He just doesn't even look, he doesn't look good at this point.
37:54The injuries are taking a toll on him. RJ Harvey, you kind of know the role that he's in.
37:59This is one where I'm just going to say, I would be very aggressive with going after waiver claims or bids for
38:06Jonah Coleman, because the fit in Denver and his style, it's like chef's kiss with Sean Payton.
38:11I said this during the game. I think there's a non 0% chance like if Jonah Coleman, and again, we don't know
38:17how long the injury is going to be for JK Dobbins here, if he even misses one game.
38:23But if he got like a couple games here, I would say there's a non 0% chance.
38:28He just, he keeps the lead back job there going forward.
38:31Yeah. And Harvey's a big part of that too, because we know that Sean Payton loves to dial up the red zone work for RJ Harvey.
38:39And if he's out too, then even more goes to Jonah Coleman.
38:42Matt, I want to go over the Jaguars end.
38:45Trevor Lawrence goes 17 of 29 for one 89, zero touchdowns, one interception.
38:49I see Basial Tootin versus Chris Rodriguez being 13 carries 65 yards and a wildcat touchdown near the goal line for Basial
38:55Tootin compared to the six carries for Chris Rodriguez and 13 yards.
38:59And then the wide receivers is once again led by Parker Washington, 12 targets, seven receptions, 98 yards.
39:04So overall, it looks like the Broncos defense bounced back, but some of our favorite players still got there with the Jacks.
39:11Yeah, definitely a much better. Like, Hey, let's respect ourselves outing from the Broncos defense here.
39:15According to next gen stats, Trevor Lawrence was under pressure on 40% of his dropbacks.
39:20And it really felt like that. Like if you could pick one nit with this Jaguars offensive just ecosystem here.
39:26And I don't even know that this is really a nit.
39:29It might actually be a problem. Like pass pro is the issue, especially right up the gut.
39:34I mean, Zach Allen was dominant in this game.
39:37He took Emmanuel Pregnon, the rookie guard for a ride several times here.
39:40Zach Allen's is one of the more like under maybe underappreciated nationally defenders in the NFL.
39:45He was excellent in this game. Their tackling was better, but still Basial Tootin was able to get home.
39:51Tootin had the wildcat touchdown. He had a couple of really nice runs in this game.
39:56I don't think he's going to be some massive RB1 hit in fantasy, but he's pretty clearly their best back and somebody
40:02that is going to continue to get there. I think if you're looking for like touchdowns and obviously some bigger plays, I
40:09think they'll continue to give him more and more work.
40:11He was impressive to me in this one. Not overwhelming, but pretty impressive.
40:15And in the passing game, it was kind of what we have expected here where Parker Washington was awesome.
40:21Parker Washington even like maybe left a couple of plays on the field and Trevor Lawrence's interception was like reverting to bad habits.
40:28Trevor were. I don't really know what he was doing other than like kind of staring down Parker Washington under a little
40:34bit of pressure and he throws it basically right to Riley Moss who had him blanketed man coverage there.
40:40BTJ had a couple of nice moments, but it's not going to really be great for you in fantasy because he's still
40:46running a lot of those clear out routes. And there was one play where I mean, it was unfortunately like he's going
40:53in the air looking for that defender to hit him before the ball gets there.
40:57And ultimately, he ends up dropping it. So nice moments for BTJ, but it remains the Parker Washington show in Jacksonville as expected.
41:04Are we not at the point where it's Parker Washington fringe top 15 fantasy wide receiver and you can't start the other two guys?
41:11I mean, looking at it, Jacoby Myers, it's 5% targets per route this season.
41:15And he just never get like, why would you scheme up the ball to Jacoby Myers?
41:20Like I get that. He's a big part of the offense in other ways, but like you don't need to actually throw the ball to him.
41:28And then once again, in the non 11 personnel snaps, Brian Thomas won out of 21.
41:32Travis Hunter had more snaps in the non three wide receiver sets than Brian Thomas in this one.
41:38So like brutal. I mean, I don't think that you can totally play Thomas.
41:42That is the pecking order like on display. Yeah.
41:45That's designated X stuff right there. Do y'all think they can move a trade?
41:49A trade? Like do you think that if they're not going to use him like that?
41:53But they kind of need him though. Like who else is going to do that though?
41:58Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do kind of need him.
42:01Because what about Josh Cameron? Josh, can he do that stuff?
42:04Yeah, no, Josh. No, I don't think so. Josh Cameron is like he's actually going to make.
42:09I know it's only been two games, but he's going to make a nice little career for himself as a dirty work guy.
42:16The problem is like they already have a dirty work guy in Jacoby Myers, and I don't know that you're not ready to throw.
42:23Yeah, he's basically Jacoby Myers, but like the very, very poor man's version.
42:27But he again had some really nice blocks in this game.
42:30So there's there's that. Question to raise point. If Brian Thomas Jr.
42:34Is barely playing in three or two wide receiver sets and only in three wide receiver sets, and they get to a
42:40point where they actually feel comfortable with Travis Hunter playing more on offense.
42:44Couldn't they just play him in that X receiver spot and then move BTJ for like a second round pick?
42:50If not more. Would they get a second round pick for him right now?
42:54Probably, probably. But I don't know. I mean, it's just probably a second round pick, and it might be worth it if
43:01they were willing to give Travis Hunter that kind of work.
43:04And like Hunter had some moments at corner today.
43:07He did actually draw a DPI against Corlin Sutton that was a very obvious DPI.
43:11And yet Liam Cohen still went absolutely ballistic to the point that he got a personal foul.
43:16And they had the two penalties in one moment.
43:19Liam was hot in the second half because that offense just like, like I said, just completely hit the wall.
43:25Matt, my final question is on Basial Tootin. If we can throw back on that Michael F.
43:30Florio tweet with the usage. This backfield split three different ways, but Basial Tootin had the vast majority at at over 50%, right?
43:37So we still don't have like a pure explosive from Basial Tootin.
43:40His longest rush here went for 16 yards. But Matt, if we're just talking about like stacking good weeks and forced missed
43:47tackles and not falling on your face and earning more and more trust, isn't Basial Tootin doing that to the degree where
43:53we shouldn't really even factor in Chris Rodriguez and this equation at all so far?
43:58Yeah, we talked about this on Fantasy Football Live this morning.
44:01Chris Rodriguez, one of the most dropped players in fantasy last week.
44:04And yeah, I mean, he's going to totally need an injury to to be relevant because he's not even getting goal line work.
44:11So yeah, I mean, Tootin again, it's it's it's probably Josh touchdown or bust a little bit with Basial Tootin because of the role.
44:18But this is an offense that again, it was disappointing in the second half, especially today, but is generally one that I
44:25think is going to score a lot of touchdowns.
44:27So I'm fine. Banking on him is probably more of like a really, really good flex play, but certainly someone I would
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45:14All right, Hayden, the overtime game in week two, Green Bay Packers narrowly beat out Aaron Glenn's New York jets by getting
45:21a field goal in overtime after, you know, the jets had their opportunity as well.
45:25I'm looking at the stat sheet and we talked all week about the high flying Packers passing game and it's Jordan loves
45:3216 of 29 for 145 yards, two touchdowns, three sacks taken.
45:35Again, the backfield goes 18 carries for 63 yards and I'm looking at it and it's just Matthew going for for 58 Christian Watson for for 41.
45:43What the heck happened and do we need to slow our roll a little bit?
45:47The Packers did a full 180 across the board.
45:50They were great on special teams. They were great on defense.
45:53They couldn't run the ball and then the past game was a little bit hit and miss as well.
45:59I think maybe the most shocking part about this performance is they had 24 series.
46:03The Green Bay did they started with a rush on 16 of them.
46:07Did it? Did it work? It absolutely didn't work.
46:10Marshawn Lloyd was really bad in this one. They got Caleb Johnson going by the way.
46:14Marshawn Lloyd fumbles the ball sometime in the fourth quarter.
46:17He plays one snap out of the next 22 afterwards.
46:20It was almost all Chris Brooks and then they got Caleb Johnson running the ball for my eyes.
46:26I think that Caleb Johnson was maybe even a little better, a little better than Marshawn Lloyd to the point.
46:32You looked all right. I agree. I think Lloyd's it just done like it's just not going to happen with Marshawn Lloyd.
46:38Like you cannot start Marshawn Lloyd next week after this performance and Josh Jacobs coming back.
46:43And I think just zooming out further, the Packers, they lost the right tackle Zach Bacoboele, who was air cast on the first drive.
46:50He's probably going to be out for the season.
46:53They're rotating a bunch of players on the interior.
46:55One of them hurt his hand early on in that game.
46:59The rest of the offensive linemen were terrible in this one.
47:02Part of the reason why they couldn't run the ball effectively is because of the ground game.
47:07And they didn't run that many plays. It was 46 plays before the over overtime situation because they just could not like
47:13run the ball well and they were trying to run the ball.
47:17They were kind of bleeding clock over there. At least the Packers run defense stopped the Breeze Hall, Braylon Allen one-two punch.
47:23They finally get the ball in overtime and win this one.
47:27It was not the cleanest game at all. Tucker Craft played a whole lot more in this one.
47:32I guess like the big storyline here. Jaden Reed, early, early in the game, spine board, has a neck injury.
47:38Staying overnight at the hospital has a feeling in his extremities.
47:41But you just never like to see the neck injuries in particular.
47:45So that's probably going to be quite a while.
47:47LaFleur, after the game, did not seem very optimistic there.
47:50He was really talking up Lucas Van Ness, who was awesome in this one.
47:54He was really talking up his defensive coordinator. He said he has an elite defensive coordinator, and they did look pretty good.
48:01But you did not hear a whole lot about the offense because, quite frankly, they shouldn't be talking about it.
48:07Okay. Hayden, to follow up on that, we just talked about the Jaguars and how, you know, they played the Browns in week one.
48:14And, you know, it's much different blocking the Broncos than it is the Browns.
48:18And the front five might be a problem. Are we at the point where the Packers front five is a problem?
48:24Obviously, not just for the running game, but also from the passing department.
48:28Yeah, it's getting to that point. I mean, Zach Tom, historically, has been like their best offensive lineman.
48:33He's going to be out for the year now.
48:36So, yeah, it's going to be really tough. Tucker Craft was out there for most of the snaps.
48:41And LaFleur, after the game, said that they almost had to play him at one of the tackle spots because they lost so many offensive linemen.
48:49That's like the state. That's the state of the Packers right now.
48:53I will say this. It's pretty evident who the ball is going to.
48:56Christian Watson is getting some, like, goal line work.
48:59He has another touchdown right at the goal line.
49:02He's obviously the biggest threat for an explosive. The way they're getting the ball to Matthew Golden, it wasn't like the craziest game ever here.
49:09But on a per-route basis, like another win for Matthew Golden.
49:12It's the Romeo Dobbs role. It's a lot of, like, you know, hitches.
49:16Third and three, like, quick slant routes. You had a slant in the red zone.
49:21So there's a lot of, like, little things that are going to Matthew Golden.
49:25He's just, like, way more likely to rip off, you know, a 50-yard game than Romeo Dobbs.
49:30So I think Matthew Golden remains a start. Christian Watson is going to be an excellent player.
49:35He left for a second after getting hit over the middle.
49:38But I just think watching the Packers, like, this offensive line is getting to the point where, Ray, like, you cannot start
49:45a running back for the Packers next week. Like, there's no way.
49:48I wasn't starting Marshawn Lloyd this week. Chris Brooks is playing too much.
49:52And, hey, now just because people are going to ask.
49:55Because people want to chase this backfield. Like, Caleb Johnson, is he even worth some back?
50:00We're not doing that either. Are we not? Okay.
50:02Let the people, because they're going to ask. Hey, you know they're going to ask.
50:07He had eight games. They're going to ask. So you got to tell people so they don't break their pocketbook trying to spin for Caleb Johnson.
50:15Everybody wants this backfield to be Josh Jacobson. The reality is none of them are.
50:19Right? None of those guys are him. So we probably should stop chasing the mythical production that eight gave people when he was active.
50:26Yeah. That was just, like, multiple offensive lines ago when Josh Jacobs was, like, a fun fantasy asset.
50:31And that's not coming back. I would say Caleb Johnson easily is the favorite for most carries next week.
50:37They're not going to go anywhere. And it's probably going to be some semblance of a committee.
50:42And he's a zero in the passing game. Zero.
50:45Zero. And LaFleur said that he's still learning the pass protection rules and all that type of stuff after the game.
50:51So it's like, it's a nothing there. It's Tucker Craft.
50:54Like, he's at least playing enough now, but he's not as featured.
50:57It's Matthew Golden. It's Christian Watson. That's it for Green Bay.
51:01But both those picks are going to be very good ones this year.
51:04Okay. Hey, and I need to ask about the Jets here.
51:08Because Gino goes 27 of 41. 247. One touchdown.
51:10Does take four sacks and some long sacks at that.
51:13But Brees Hall. 16 carries for only 29 yards, including a long gain of 14.
51:18So if I want to do the math, that's 15 carries for 15 yards besides that.
51:22But he's also this team's leading receiver with five targets, five receptions, 63 yards.
51:27But the frustration is there's no touchdown in his column.
51:30But there is for Braylon Allen on five carries for seven yards.
51:33It was a five-yard touchdown as a first in goal in the second quarter for Braylon Allen.
51:38So, you know, that's like fringe goal line work for him.
51:41And then later in the game, fourth and one, everything on the line for the Jets.
51:46They run it out of shotgun with Braylon Allen.
51:49That gets stuck. Lucas Van Ness flies around and makes a big play there.
51:53So I guess like on those two critical moments, it was Braylon Allen.
51:57The good news is everything else went to Brees Hall.
52:00And the boxer is not going to agree with me.
52:03I think Brees Hall looks really good and really healthy.
52:06There's been like too many seasons in a row where I felt like, man, like he's just like not making guys miss.
52:12And if you guys watch his 43-yard screen game, he had a jump cut there that like, I mean, he's got to
52:19be 233 pounds or something like that. He's a big dude.
52:22He should not be jumping laterally like that. So I think that Brees Hall is going to have good moments here.
52:28Even though he's like losing some of the critical work, the reality is he had 16 carries and then five targets in
52:35this one last week when he was splitting time.
52:37He touched the ball 20 times. So that's back-to-back games in a row where they touched the ball 20 times.
52:43And the Jets offense, it wasn't a great offense, but this is like definitely a tier above what we're dealing with the
52:50last couple of years with a way worse quarterback play.
52:53Hayden, can I ask you about Aidy Mitchell's 12 targets?
52:56I'm sure that was a journey, was a roller coaster.
52:59What was the journey like for you? It was a journey.
53:02It's very clear that he's heavily involved. It wasn't that like everything was down the football field either, which is, I mean,
53:08obviously there's gonna be a lot of it like that, but there was a couple of plays underneath like right away in this one.
53:15Garrett Wilson, it was at least getting close to halftime before his first reception, but they still, it's the same type of offense.
53:22It's a lot of 11 personnel. I think it's about 70% of them.
53:26They're the replacement in a slot for Omar Cooper, Isaiah Williams.
53:29He had a couple of plays late in the game and he's got a little bit of bully ball to him underneath
53:36there, but Adonai Mitchell very involved in this one.
53:38And it's not going to be nearly as like balanced of an attack.
53:42Obviously you have those two running backs, like to some degree it is, but that was a lot of dropbacks in this one.
53:49And I thought Gina Smith like played fine enough ball.
53:52Uh, and I saw the green Bay, like their defense, like really stepped up in general.
53:57I want to buy stock of the jets for, because I look, they, they look competent right now, if not good in some moments.
54:04And then this is their schedule coming up. Okay.
54:07Lions, bears, Browns, then the Patriots, and then the dolphins after that.
54:10I mean, four of those next five games are some of the worst defenses that we've seen in the NFL so far.
54:17So, uh, I kind of like these jets assets and like you said, Hayden outside of one or two brilliant Allen touches
54:23here or there, it is very centralized of the pieces that we should care about.
54:28And, uh, compared to all the other teams that we've just, I should have won this game.
54:33I should have won this game. They should have won this game.
54:36They should have won this game. Yep. All right.
54:39Let's talk about the Bengals and the Texans. Oh, and two for the Texans, two and oh, for the Bengals as Cincinnati wins 20 to six.
54:46It won't show up in EPA minus 0.5 for the day.
54:50But I thought Joe Burrow had a hell of a performance came in with a back injury.
54:55His left tackle in Orlando Brown was struggling all day long.
54:58I mean, Will Anderson, Danell Hunter from both sides, sacks, quarterback hits, everything.
55:02But Joe Burrow powered through it and created when he needed to, whether that was T Higgins on a bunch of end
55:08breakers or really two magical touchdowns to Jamar Chase.
55:11The first one, the catch of the day, a twisting one-on-one rep versus Derek Stingley at the front right pylon for 32 yards.
55:18We got the dots. Look at that. I mean, it looks like he's going to slip, but he controls, gets both feet down.
55:25And then after halftime, Joe Burrow avoids upfield disruption, breaks the arm tackle sack in the backfield, gets out into free space
55:31and chase gets free on a crossing route for a 19 yard touchdown.
55:35Again, T got in on the action. In fact, he's the team's leading receiver, 10 targets, five receptions, 95 yards, a third
55:41and five incredible rep also against Derek Stingley on the sideline.
55:45So again, with Burrow nursing that back injury coming in, he got hit, he got tested and he looked back to some of his best self.
55:52And on the opposite end, everything was so difficult here for the Houston Texans.
55:57CJ Stroud might've had like one good play, one good throw every single drive.
56:01They did their best to work in the middle of the fields with wide receivers and especially tight ends.
56:06That's why you see Dalton Schultz, especially at the end, some garbage time stuff with 12 receptions, 140 yards on 14 freaking targets.
56:13But the run game was non-existent. I mean, these guys combined for 14 carries for 18 total yards.
56:18Dexter Lawrence was dominant, including a fourth and inches stop on David Montgomery one-on-one.
56:23I think they might've run the ball with their running backs a total of four times in the entire second half.
56:29So what worked for them last week, albeit just in touchdowns and not necessarily on a yards per carry basis here, Harmon.
56:35Uh, we're back to the drawing board here with the Texans offensive line and their rushing attack.
56:40Yeah. Big step back. Uh, cause at least in week one, you know, they were definitely not explosive.
56:46I don't think either of these guys marks or Montgomery is going to be explosive, but it kind of feels like they're
56:52at least just watching it in week one. And I felt like seeing some of it today is just like, well, they
56:59can really get these guys going downhill. There's a, there's maybe some semblance of a run game, but when they're trying to
57:05do a lot of like zone stuff, past things, it doesn't, it doesn't really work.
57:10Yeah. It's, it's a mess for this team. So I also think too, like, this is just one of those teams that
57:16when you don't have your wide receiver one and Nico Collins, you're, you're effed.
57:20And I feel like this team is, if he has to miss next week too, against the Colts, a team he usually tears up.
57:27I think they're probably going to be effed again.
57:30Yeah. Hey, correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounded like this morning they reported as like a possible multi-week thing here with Nico Collins.
57:37Is that correct? God. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's probably going to be another week or so.
57:42It didn't sound, they didn't put them on IR.
57:45So I'll be back soon enough, but I agree with you guys.
57:49I mean, it doesn't matter if he's not out there.
57:52I mean, this offensive line, I always felt like every single off season, they're like, they changed the offensive line.
57:57It'll get better. It was like, but they're not adding anybody good on the offensive lines.
58:02Like why should we expect different results? I mean, that that's a problem.
58:06They had one successful run in this one, the bottom zero percentile in games here, negative 0.8 EPA per run for the Texans here.
58:13Six of them went backwards, according to our friend Nate Tice over there.
58:17I mean, that's, that's like predictable too. Like that's, I think the sad part about this is in last week, David Montgomery
58:23got home, but like on two plays and then the other 16 plays went nowhere.
58:28And if you're looking at like success rate right now, like the Texans run game is one of the worst in the league.
58:35Yeah. The bangles today, the according to next year in stats, the highest pressure rate since Al Golden has taken over his
58:41DC 43 and a half percent pressure rate, all the investments on the defensive side of the ball, eight sacks, four forced fumbles and one touchdown this season.
58:49I did that. The defense is giving them a chance in this, this Houston, Texas team.
58:54Oh, and two right now. It doesn't look like Nico's going to play.
58:58We talked about it last week with Monty at the 20 carries, but if you watched it, it didn't look particularly great.
59:05Like this is a problem for Houston without Nico Collins.
59:07And again, these teams that don't have answers for the primary being out and there are no secondary options that truly threaten the defense.
59:15It just makes tough sledding for us in fantasy trying to chase these other things.
59:19I'm like, we're at a point y'all where we just need to say like, there are certain teams where you want one
59:26guy or we don't even want to mess around with anybody in Houston.
59:29It's like, you know, I don't want to tell people to feel like you have to just jam Montgomery and depending on who they play.
59:37If Nico's not out there, this was bad. They looked bad.
59:40Yep. Something I do want to watch for the Bengals.
59:43They are much better along the defensive line. And again, Dexter Lawrence was both eating and splitting double teams and just living in the backfield.
59:50And they are quite deep along edge rusher, despite, you know, losing Trey Hendrickson.
59:54They have like a bunch of names, including Shamar Stewart, who got a sack here.
59:59And, you know, CJ Stroud took four sacks in this game.
60:02But their linebacker area that middle of the field is maybe something that's a bit susceptible to where they can get got.
60:09So that's something I want to keep in mind with some talents against them moving forward.
60:13Yeah. I mean, look, Kayshawn Booty three for 37.
60:16Xavier Hutchinson three for 37. I mean, Foster Moreau pops up for a 25 yarder.
60:20Jared Wayne pops up for an 18 yarder. They just honestly, the best running back moment that they had was a third
60:27and 12 that Woody Marks took and then barreled through some defenders and got the first down.
60:32So it's it's rough. And then again, on the Bengals, I'll just close with some of the under center work really helped
60:39chase Brown in terms of the rushing. Like short 20 for 80 in a normal game might not be great.
60:44I'll take 20 for 80 every single day of the week against Houston Texans defense, along with three extra catches.
60:50So I thought Chase Brown was very dependable on this and got almost all of the work.
60:55And this Bengals offensive line was tested. They had their moments in terms of sacks and quarterback hits.
61:01At the same time, they did just enough to like give protection and for the Bengals to win this one in the end.
61:07Okay. We'll move it on. I mean, we might look back on this as the biggest upset of the season.
61:13Cleveland Browns fricking won a game and it wasn't until week 12.
61:17It was in week two, 23 to 19 after like a six hour weather delay here, Harmon.
61:22Oh my God. I'm looking at the box score to Sean Watson, 24 of 30, two 38, two touchdowns.
61:28Compare that to Baker Mayfield, 21 to 34, one 82, one touchdown, one interception.
61:32Looks like to Sean was the much better quarterback here.
61:35Yeah, this is to Sean Watson's best game in a Cleveland Browns uniform by EPA per drop back, which is outrageous.
61:41So it's the eighth best game he's had since the 2020 season.
61:44These are all the dates that are ahead of today's 0.2 EPA per drop back.
61:49November 26, 2020, October 18th, 2020, November 22nd, 2020, October 11th, 2020, December 27th, 2020, the first of January in 2021, a playoff game.
61:56And then the eighth of November in 2020. So it's like Deshaun Watson's best game since the pandemic season.
62:02And that is just embarrassing. It's humiliating how bad the Bucks defense is right now.
62:06That was one of my biggest takeaways from this game.
62:09And frankly, it was one of my biggest takeaways from the first week.
62:13Their linebackers are brutal in coverage. Alex Anzalone has been one of the worst.
62:17I'm sorry. This is really mean, but he's been one of the worst players in football through the first two weeks.
62:23He's been a disaster. Free agent signing. Can't tackle.
62:26There's no underneath coverage. Like this was a moment where Deshaun didn't even really have to force it and could just kind
62:32of take what the defense gave him because the defense was giving him everything.
62:36And this is like a consistent, if I was a Bucks fan, I'd be irate right now.
62:41Cause this is a consistent theme with Todd Bowles's defense as the replies to that Deshaun Watson tweet reminded me.
62:47And I was like, folks, I don't need a reminder that every, every bad quarterback looks great against this defense.
62:53Cause it's just like, if you can find, especially if you're a veteran, if you can find the open spots where the
63:00blitz are coming, it's going to be there. And you can just kind of, again, matriculate the football down the field as Deshaun Watson did in this game.
63:08I mean, this is like, this is the guy they wanted to bench.
63:12There were reports this morning about how like they basically were all ready to just bench him after this game and start
63:18Shador Sanders in week three in the home opener.
63:21And he won the football game and had his best game in years.
63:25Like the Bucks defense and the offense isn't great.
63:28We'll talk about it. But the Bucks defense is really bad.
63:31If you want like a fantasy relevant take, Denzel Boston was awesome in this game.
63:35I can't believe this guy was a second round pick.
63:38He ran the most routes among all the receivers, you know, Casey Concepcion and Jerry Judy are a little bit like redundant
63:45in some of the targets that they get, which is a little bit of a problem for Casey.
63:50Cause he does get a lot of designery stuff.
63:53But yeah, Boston could have even had a bigger game too.
63:56Cause he had like a tight coverage go route that he lost at the very, very last second along the left sideline.
64:02So 94% team high in the routes rate made, made a bunch of guys miss on his post route touchdown where he just took off.
64:10So Boston's been really good. A standout player for this team, which was a consistent drum beat in training camp in OTAs
64:16and has definitely led into the season. He is a hit for them.
64:20I liked the fact that they got hero fan and involved Matt.
64:24And I know that he didn't get a lot until late in the game last week, but the fact that he was
64:30involved in the offense today was good. And again, not trying to be mean here, but leaving Jerry Judy out of the
64:37mix, they need to just roll with Boston and fan and Casey Concepcion.
64:41It didn't look like they fooled around with Jerry Judy a lot.
64:44Can you just talk about fan and juniors involvement?
64:47And then when I'm just looking at the box score, right?
64:5019 yard average for it for Denzel Boston. I know the big play was a big part of that, but 10.8 yards
64:57per catch for, for Harold fan into the 4.7 for conception.
65:00And I would like for them to give him some more real route stuff inside this offense, but talk about fan and
65:06at that tight end spot, six targets for him as well.
65:10Yeah. They kind of need to just get like Judy off the team.
65:13I think, cause he's still running like 69% of the routes.
65:17If he's not getting target. Yeah, they should. And you know, I don't know, it's like a wide receiver needy team.
65:23He's just such a mercurial player is Jerry Judy.
65:26I, it's tough to find a home for him, but yeah, fan and was good in this game.
65:31He had one third down drop in the first quarter, but that was the only target that went his way that he didn't catch.
65:38So he was definitely useful again. He's he's like tight ends are going to, are going to smoke this team all season.
65:44The Tampa Buccaneers, cause they can't cover with their linebackers right now.
65:48I'm getting a little bit nervous with the Browns and that Boston's pretty good.
65:52Fannin's pretty good. Concepcion's pretty good. Quinton Judkins is pretty good.
65:55Like almost to the point where you might start them.
65:58And then here comes the rug pull in the next time.
66:02So that's, yes, that's like, that's like back in my mind.
66:05Uh, I, I did want to say on Jerry Judy, the Browns would save almost $4 million if they can trade them.
66:11Um, and like they should just figure that out.
66:14Like that's a tradable contract. Who do you think wants him?
66:17That's, that's the problem. Who wants him? I mean, the, yeah, I mean, there, there will be teams that use someone.
66:23Yeah. Yeah. There's always a team that could, that could, frankly, I hate, I hate to say this cause it'd be nice
66:30if they could just have like a real professional wide receiver, but he would actually make sense for the chiefs.
66:36Cause they have no one who can beat man coverage and like Jerry, Jerry Judy can run TikTok, TikTok routes and beat man coverage.
66:43So my homes like sitting there buying some time for Judy's like six second routes to get open.
66:48That actually might make a little bit of sense.
66:51Matt, I have to ask about the Buccaneers. Okay.
66:54They gave Baker Mayfield the contract in the 11th hour prior to the season.
66:58If you go back to last year, the Bucs have now lost nine of their last 11 games.
67:03Uh, Todd Bowles has seen Dave Canales go on to be his OC and then a head coach, Liam Cohen, his OC to go be a head coach.
67:11Grizzard fired after one year. I saw Buccaneers fans already calling for Zach Robinson's head as offensive coordinator here.
67:17Uh, Bucky Irving great with 17 carries for 89 yards.
67:20That's 5.2 yards per pop. Then I look at the past catching the Mecca Buga sweet, a touchdown, but on five targets,
67:26three reception, 16 yards, Chris Godwin three for 46 and Tez Johnson is a leading receiver one for 49.
67:32Is this already broken? There's so much like Tez Johnson in this offense.
67:36And, and then when they came back from the two minutes, like for all, they came back into the two minute drill
67:42because they let the game stopped when they were going into the two minute.
67:47And then it was about six hours later that the game resumed.
67:50They were peppering Tez, uh, Ted Hertz. Uh, and to the point that like, he almost had what would have been the game winning touchdown.
67:57Uh, he, it just eventually slipped like out of his hands at the very last minute.
68:02Uh, so that's been a little bit Rocky. Obviously Jalen McMillan is not healthy, which has been the story for Jalen McMillan.
68:09Unfortunately, as a player, um, they, they're one of, they're very similar to the chargers to me, Joshua.
68:14It just feels like they've got a lot going on, not from like a personnel standpoint.
68:19They do kind of just run out the same group of players.
68:22Like they're an 11 personnel team. A book is on the field all the time.
68:27Godwin's on the field all the time. K to Otten is on the field all the time.
68:32And then it is kind of in this one, a little bit more rotating between, uh, our guy, Ted Hurst and Tez Johnson.
68:39I mean, not that they're either of our guys, but you know what I'm saying?
68:43Like they actually do. This is a team that needs a second tight end badly because they're a little bit predictable.
68:49And the most that they can do is like mess around with the funky motions and stuff, which like a book gets open on.
68:56He could, he was open for the fourth down.
68:59What would have been the game winning touchdown and Baker just missed him.
69:03Like whistles once again, just to flat out like an accurate.
69:06Yeah. It was even bad through two, through two games.
69:09There's no question. Like, and this wasn't even the, just, you know, poop your pants mistakes that he made in the first
69:16one where he's just careless with the football. This was like inaccurate.
69:19He's overthrowing guys. Uh, you know, he gets his interception.
69:22Like they're running a bunch of man coverage in early on in this game are the Cleveland Browns.
69:27They mix it up with a one zone coverage look and he just gets fooled by a drop defender.
69:33And it's like, dude, you're so deep in your career at this point.
69:37You cannot make that throw. So it was a, it was another bad Baker game.
69:41Unfortunately, Herman, can I just ask you like no data, no stats, just eye test and feel watching the game.
69:47Cause to me, it isn't another one of those inexcusable losses.
69:50What is the difference between this year's Tampa Bay Buccaneers offense and the offense that we saw with Mike Evans healthy last
69:57year with the book in his role, looking like the next coming of a star receiver in the NFL.
70:03Like just what is going on in Tampa Bay?
70:05I don't know, man. And like the offensive line hasn't, hasn't been quite like the dominant unit that you would think, especially
70:12in the past protection game, which makes it worse for Baker Mayfield.
70:15It does feel like things need to be white hot for Mayfield to really run.
70:20Well, I don't know. The whole team is just, there's a lot of malaise to it right now.
70:25You know, Todd Bowles is back and Todd Bowles doesn't really have answers on either side of the ball.
70:31Nobody's really playing up to their potential because I think the offense is just, like I said, there's a lot going on
70:37here with all the shifts and the motions and they just feel very disorganized.
70:41They just need like a, they need a settle down moment to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
70:46But I think it is going to be a problem that the defense is so bad too, because it's going to put
70:52them in a lot of these situations where they need to throw the ball.
70:57Their mistake was letting Liam Cohen go. I mean, it was, it would have been painful to do it.
71:02Todd Bowles like won a Super Bowl, not too long before that, but Liam Cohen had the good stuff and Todd Bowles defense been really hot.
71:10At least with the Buccaneers next week, they only have to face the Vikings defense.
71:14So unsettle. Oh my God. Minnesota. Minnesota. Everything that we've learned though, Hayden, through two weeks is that Baker Mayfield's about to throw for 350 and four touchdowns.
71:23Probably. Against that Vikings defense. Everything is so unpredictable.
71:25One more thing about this game. One more thing about this game, Josh.
71:29It stinks, by the way, if you have Quinchon Judkins on your roster, that this is a game they won and he still did.
71:36I mean, he scammed his way to five catches, but he still did absolutely nothing on the ground.
71:42Not great. Yep. Okay. Let's talk about a good team.
71:44It's 31 to 37. Ray, I see a hat trick of touchdowns from JSN.
71:49Like he thinks he's Brian Broby. Nine receptions, 155 yards, three scores on just 11 targets.
71:53We can talk about that before we get into this backfield weirdness.
71:57So just overall with the Seahawks, 19 of 26 for Drew Locke, 235, three scores.
72:01Compare that to Jacover's set against the Seattle defense, 17 of 28, just 95 yards.
72:06Two sacks taken there too. Yeah, this one might be a little quicker of a recap.
72:11And I guess we could focus in on individuals because it never really felt like Arizona had a chance.
72:16I mean, that Jackson Smith and Jigba 82 yarder was on the second play from scrimmage for Seattle.
72:21And we said this last week about Carson Wentz getting the ball to Justin Jefferson.
72:26Drew Locke understood the assignment. Get the ball to Jackson Smith and Jigba.
72:30Now Rashid Shahid did have, I think, six or seven targets in the game.
72:34But it was, it was JSN with another 40% target share outing.
72:37And I know a lot of people said this thing again.
72:41Remember the conversation that I, he probably can't repeat that again.
72:44I don't know if he's going to get like, it's all Jackson Smith and Jigba.
72:48Career high. He's running open. He's catching short, deep.
72:51It doesn't matter. And that 82 yarder wasn't busted coverage.
72:54I mean, it's a filthy double move. I don't know why you were singled up on him anyway.
72:59Touchdown. I mean, Drew Locke, get the ball to Jackson Smith and Jigba.
73:03There's really nobody else that you feel confident starting, at least from the pass catcher side of the ball.
73:09It's just, this is, again, a good team. And I am going to continue this theme of coaches and offensive coordinators.
73:15Give Blind Flurry credit. This, this dude, there is a fullback.
73:18Number 38. Russell is his last name. Make fullbacks great again.
73:21Because my goodness, they are orbit, like they're orbit motioning him back into the backfield and then getting him to kick out
73:28the edge rushers and just opening up lanes for Emmanuel Wilson, whoever else is back there running the ball.
73:34But it's, it's, it's creative. I like what I'm seeing.
73:37This team is well coached. They've got a great defense, but offensively it's Jackson Smith and Jigba full stop.
73:42Okay. 40% time. Yeah. I have to ask about this backfield Ray.
73:46The Seahawks played forever ago in week one, but just the box score reads 13 carries for 52 yards for Jadarian price with a long gain of 25.
73:54And then Emmanuel Wilson, who only played the short yard stuff in week one, 21 carries for 92 yards.
74:00So was this, Hey, the Seahawks are way up on the scoreboard.
74:03So we gave Emmanuel Wilson more, or was this how it was throughout the game?
74:08And not only do we have a bit of a Helani split, we also have an Emmanuel Wilson split with Jadarian.
74:14Okay. So we did get George Helani out of the way so that we can, we can move on from that.
74:20It was Jadarian price early. He did fumble the ball.
74:23And I thought, Oh, fumble from Jadarian price. You lost it.
74:26Emmanuel, but they went back to him. What ended up happening late.
74:30Josh was they said rib injury, a chest injury is what it said.
74:34And then a lot of the Twitter doctors were saying that AKA means ribs.
74:38And once that happened, once he took a shot, it was a outside zone play.
74:42He tried to cut it back, took a big hit.
74:45You didn't see him anymore. I'm almost positive. Emmanuel Wilson had eight straight rush attempts in the fourth quarter.
74:51It was just Wilson, Wilson, Wilson, Wilson. He set a career high in the game.
74:55I know Wilson in the game, career high. So this wasn't like it was a true split between those two.
75:01It was a lot of Jadarian price early. And again, he looked good, but it's just like one play, break the tackle, hit the big play.
75:09But I thought he played well and look well, but we're going to have to monitor the chest slash rib injury.
75:15But Emmanuel Wilson was clearly the guy, not George Helani after that injury took place.
75:19Okay. I'm worried. I mean, I'm worried. Well, that just makes it sound like in an alternate timeline, that's not too far from this one.
75:27Jadarian price could have just had a monster week two and we just get really excited moving forward.
75:32Hey, I hear you. I hear you. Hey, hey, I hear you, man.
75:36And I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to cope or make up for it, but something had happened to him and they just took him out.
75:44He didn't play. They were up and they were just salting the game away.
75:48So it would have been a perfect opportunity to let him run the rock.
75:52He went and checked out by the trainers and they didn't play him anymore.
75:56So the report was injury. Even after the fumble, they went right back to him and started to give him touches.
76:03So I really do think that at least in this case, it was something injury related as to why, especially in the
76:09fourth quarter, you didn't see him down the stretch much.
76:12Okay, let's talk the Cardinals here. We know last season went down 31 to seven or 21 to seven entering fourth quarters.
76:19That's when they sparked up. That's when Jacoby Brissett flew it all over the yard.
76:23You can't do that against Seattle. It's much more difficult.
76:26And so now through two weeks, Marvin Harrison Jr.
76:29has one catch for 33 yards. Kendrick Bourne pops up for two for 11 here.
76:33Michael Wilson, two for 18. Jeremiah Love has a total of 12 touches for 45 yards.
76:38And Trey McBride is the only one that gets home on 10 targets, eight receptions, 41 yards and a score.
76:44No one should have been Cardinals curious today. Is that fair?
76:47No, no, we are not. We are not Cardinals curious against the Seahawks.
76:51I just want to make that statement very well known.
76:54This was honestly, this was BTA situation. This was built to you know what.
76:58The Seahawks were just a better team. If you just look at time of possession, Arizona only had the ball for 23 minutes in the game.
77:06That's it. They did not have the ball. They rarely had the ball.
77:09They couldn't do much besides throw the ball to Trey McBride.
77:13Jeremiah Love, nothing. Tyler Algier. Every time they threw it to him, I'm like, who is this with the ball and why is he moving so slow?
77:21Just complete slug out there when he's trying to matriculate the ball down the field.
77:25Like, why is Jeremiah Love not happening? And when you see this, seven touches isn't like this great number that you want, but that's a nat.
77:33Like, that should be Jeremiah Love's work. Not that he was any better, but he was out there slow as all get out.
77:40They barely had the ball. And then offensively, I'm done.
77:42Y'all, I'm done. I've made excuses. I've made videos about it.
77:46I've looked at the routes. Marv, his demeanor on the sideline, he's not even a part of the game plan.
77:52It's Trey McBride. It's Michael Wilson. It's throw the ball to anybody other than number 18.
77:56And I'm not going to just give it. It wasn't like Witherspoon was man-to-man on him.
78:01Josh Jobe is good. But my goodness, you're Marvin Harrison Jr., the fourth overall pick.
78:06You're supposed to be this guy. I'm done. I think that's it.
78:09Looney Tunes, Curtain, that's all, folks. You're talking about trading receivers around?
78:13What's the likelihood he gets his tail moved? Because he's not a part of this game plan, not a part of the offense.
78:19I'm done. Matt, I'll throw this to you. In 10-team leagues, is Marvin Harrison droppable?
78:24We're talking about 6% targets per route right now.
78:27And I don't know what's going to change. You don't have to drop him.
78:31But if you had to, I think that he's firmly on that list.
78:34Yeah, and 10 teams. I mean, also, by the way, 0% of people should have started him today.
78:400% of people. There was no reason to think he was going to have a big game in this one.
78:46And I mean, I'll still hold a little candle for Marv.
78:49But I mean, yeah. It just, what do you want to do?
78:53This is an offensive through for 95 yards today.
78:55And he's the guy that runs the sacrificial routes.
78:58Matt, you're not even holding the candle. You're holding the match that's burned down to the bottom.
79:03And it's the little wood stick. Like, that's what we're holding at this point for Marv, man.
79:08Yeah, I think Mike LaFleur was asked about Marv at the end of the game.
79:12And he said, I'm, quote, not concerned. All right, you're just lying.
79:16Like, you're just straight up lying, if that's the case.
79:19Okay, let's move on. Eagles fans were incredibly concerned.
79:21I mean, Broadway might have burned down if they went to Nashville and lost to the Cincy Titans.
79:27But in the end, a final drive touchdown to put it on 24 to 20.
79:31Hayden, I'm looking all across the board. And this seems all over the place for the Eagles offense.
79:37And Jalen Hurts has two interceptions, but also two touchdowns.
79:40Looks like Saquon Barkley left for the vast majority of the game.
79:43So Tank Bigsby gets here for 13 carries, 33 yards and one touchdown.
79:47Move around some offensive linemen. Did not work from a rushing game standpoint.
79:51But the headliner, or two, Devontae Smith, 10 catches, 117 yards and a score.
79:55And then Dontavion Wicks, five for 74. Devontae Smith was the best player in this game.
80:00Jalen Hurts was second. And then Dontavion Wicks made a couple of key plays in this one.
80:05The ground game, it's almost over. They moved Cam Juergens to left guard.
80:08And he had a really tough time in both phases.
80:11He obviously had to face Jeffrey Simmons, who absolutely just crumbled the pocket for one of the Jalen Hurts interceptions.
80:17But through the first two games, they have a 32% success rate on early down runs.
80:22That is dead last in the NFL. Maybe the Texans are right there after their game was over.
80:27But they just can't run the ball. Saquon left off the first play with a stinger.
80:32He comes back after halftime, plays about like a dozen snaps, and then was not able to finish the game.
80:38He's had a history of stingers. And when we're talking about nerves, you just don't know if that's going to be a
80:45short-term thing or if that can linger a little bit.
80:48So we just don't know. It was pretty clear.
80:50Tank Bigsby, the early down guy. And then there was quite a bit of Will Shipley in this one, more in the pass protection stuff.
80:58But Tank Bigsby had a patient goal line touchdown.
81:00I think zooming back out with the Eagles, this team kind of just has to live and die by the pass, which sounds crazy.
81:07But the run stuff is just not going to work right now with their interior offensive line play.
81:13They have a new center now. Cam Juergens is not himself.
81:16And I was listening to some of the Eagles reporters.
81:19Cam Juergens, he didn't have any reps at guard in this offseason.
81:22So the communication between Juergens and Mailata was really, really bad in this one.
81:27There was two really bad interceptions from Jalen Hurts.
81:29And I don't want to do like the, but beside that, but beside that, Jalen Hurts had a really awesome game, throwing
81:36the ball down the field when he held onto the ball for more than three and a half seconds, plus 0.3 EPA per play.
81:43A lot of that was to Devontae Smith, who had four receptions on this game winning drive there.
81:48Some second phase plays from this duo on top of that.
81:51But man, this was way too close. And the reason why this was close is because the Eagles can't run the ball.
81:58I mean, that just is so freaking frustrating to me.
82:01I mean, it's so frustrating. They do get the Bears next.
82:04Like maybe this is a get right spot, but we'll see.
82:07That's let's put a pin in that. Hey, maybe this might be the most positive we're going to be about the Tennessee Titans for weeks.
82:15Did Cam Ward play well? He did not play bad.
82:18I can't say he played well. I mean, I guess considering the opponent.
82:22Yes, this was a neutral, which is a win for Cam Ward.
82:25There was not like complete back breaking plays that he's had out there.
82:29I think maybe the surprise part for the Tennessee Titans is one.
82:32There was kind of the same rotation between the two running backs.
82:36I thought Pollard looked really good. And then at the end of the game, TyJ Spears had a huge play on the sideline.
82:43Like third and 22. Yeah, they had a couple of weird big moments like that.
82:47And in the past game, the guy that stood out the most was Elik Ayuminor, who hurtled a defender who also like
82:54on a third and 12 had an in cut for a first down.
82:58He was playing a little bit more. And I think that we can throw Calvin Ridley in that conversation with Jerry Judy
83:04that there's no reason for Calvin Ridley to be on this football team.
83:08Like he can be a wide receiver three for a team out there.
83:12And they do seem like they want to get Elik Ayuminor going a little bit.
83:16Nothing from Wondell Robinson. Carnal Tate up and down game.
83:19I wouldn't say it's a win or a loss for Carnal Tate in particular.
83:23I would just say versus an Eagles defense that it's like Vic Fangio and a pass rush that can get home.
83:29It was not a bad game from Cam Ward.
83:32And I would consider that a win. I know all of us have kind of taken shots at Cam Ward recently.
83:38But, Ray, I would say this was like a passable grade for Cam Ward, which I have not said in quite a while.
83:45You know, I was ready. I was ready. Hayden, I was ready to say something.
83:50But it was – I like how you described it.
83:53It wasn't great, but it wasn't awful as well.
83:55I thought some of his receivers – I know Carnal Tate had alligator arms early in the game.
84:01It would have been a tough catch and get a hit, but he dropped the ball.
84:05I mean, just – I think for me, I know I went on record saying today I'm not trusting in starting any
84:12Tennessee Titan and coming out of this one, Hayden.
84:14I don't know if I really feel any better about anybody.
84:18I benched Tony Pollard in our league. Maybe he's playable.
84:21But is there – how do you feel about the passing game?
84:24Carnal Tate, Wondell Robinson, Gunnar Helm, are those guys just bench players?
84:28Just do not start them right now? Yeah, you can't start any of them.
84:32Carnal Tate's probably going to be their best guy this year, but he's not going to have like the gimme targets.
84:38And we didn't get the Wondell Robinson scam touches here.
84:41He only had one target here. Like, there will be weeks where we are going to get those scam targets.
84:47I can promise you that Brian D'Abel can't control himself.
84:50So I would say in a pass game, nothing.
84:53Tony Pollard was out there for some of the goal line reps.
84:56He did have twice as many carries as TyJ Spears.
84:59I guess in like a 12-team league, Tony Pollard is like a flex candidate.
85:03I hope you have a better play than that at this point.
85:07And Tony Pollard did get like the first and the second drive.
85:10So it's still TyJ Spears kind of climbing uphill.
85:13I would say you don't want to start any Tennessee Titans.
85:16Like, that's coming off of probably one of the best offensive games in quite a while.
85:21I think that's my point. Right. And a game that was not bad for Cam Ward.
85:26The two players that we drafted or could theoretically have been drafted as receivers and Colonel Tate and Wondell Robinson did very, very, very little.
85:33And it seemed like you asked, hey, can anyone be trusted?
85:36Kind of seems like Brian D'Abel and company didn't want to put this game in Cam Ward's hands to the tune that,
85:43you know, they had 29 carries versus 20 dropbacks.
85:45And that's probably the way to try to beat this Vic Fangio defense, especially when you get kind of two early turnovers on that.
85:53All right. Let's keep it moving. Matt, big rebound for the New England Patriots.
85:57Being the Pittsburgh Steelers, 20 to three. We know the Patriots have no more wide receivers after A.J.
86:02Brown. I'm wondering if Aaron Rodgers is back to where we were before.
86:06I mean, 23 of 39, 187. That's a 4.8 yards per attempt.
86:09Four sacks taken on top of it for 43 yards lost.
86:13And then compare that to the Patriots who get back one of their playmakers in Trivion Henderson.
86:18And really his 39 yard touchdown early in this game was kind of the difference in the entire game.
86:23Yeah. Just quickly on the Patriots. I don't feel great about their offense coming out of this one, especially his right cackle.
86:30Michael Wenwu fractured his ankle. So, I mean, that's a serious injury.
86:33They also just kind of lived off explosive plays in this game.
86:37Not just the Travion Henderson one came on a kind of a shotgun draw, 39 yard touchdown.
86:42He was almost untouched on that one. Just completely free lane there.
86:45Otherwise, the run game kind of was what it was.
86:48It was definitely a much better day for Romeo Dobbs, though, to give credit to Romeo Dobbs.
86:53Like we're saying they have no receivers, but this was actually what you would imagine if you thought about like what Romeo Dobbs would be.
87:01He did have one kind of like what I would say was a drop-ish where he's it's behind him and he's got
87:07to like just make an adjustment to get the hand.
87:10Get the hands on it, but he had some explosive plays.
87:14Drake may had four plays of 20 plus yards in this game after zero in week one.
87:19He did also have like kind of a slight fadeaway interception under pressure on the first drive of the second half right
87:25after a nice grab from Romeo Dobbs. But that was a terrible pick from Drake May.
87:30But yeah, Romeo Dobbs ran the most routes on this team, and he was like basically just an outside receiver, which is
87:36why this the construction of this room is very weird.
87:39Because if AJ Brown is there, they use him as just a pure outside receiver.
87:44And Dobbs basically only had success as kind of like an ex-receiver for the Green Bay Packers.
87:49So the whole room is weird. I don't feel great about them.
87:52It was a slog of a day for New England offensively.
87:56They just happen to be playing against what I think is a completely, completely hopeless unit in the Pittsburgh series.
88:01Like, honestly, guys, I don't know where they go from here, and I don't know where you want me to start.
88:08But they got their butts kicked today, especially up front.
88:11Like the offensive line was wrecked. According to next-gen stats, Spencer Anderson gave up seven quarterback pressures in this one and also a sack.
88:18So brutal day all around for the passing offense.
88:20I don't know where you guys want me to start, but I mean, I have nothing but really bad things to say.
88:27Okay. So, yeah, what answers do we have, right?
88:30I see Jalen Warren, 11 carries, 43 yards. Rico Dattles, 7 for 22.
88:33I think Rico left in the game. Yeah, he was carted off at one point, came back in the second half.
88:40Okay. Wow. Paul Pierce of him. And then we have the receiving usage.
88:43Our guy, the gamer, and Jeremy Bernard pops up with the second most targets with 8, 4 for 35.
88:49And then, Matt, I have to ask, after DK has hidden yards in week one and the underlying metrics love him, once
88:56again, he pops up with nine targets, the most in the team.
88:59But that only equals 4 for 27. So is DK Metcalf just almost better in theory than he is in practice?
89:05And how long is that going to last? First on Jeremy Bernard, he had like three consecutive catches at one point in this game.
89:12I was like, ooh, Jeremy's kind of heating up here.
89:15But I think his final target of the day was a bobbled screen pass.
89:19He popped it up into the air and it ended up going for an interception.
89:24He did run 86% of the routes, but it was just a pretty brutal moment.
89:28Doghouse. Yeah, that was one of the – I don't know.
89:32You can't doghouse somebody for turnovers when Aaron Rodgers – I mean, he did get lit up at one point.
89:38Sack, fumble, they recover the fumble. It ended up being a fourth and 43, by the way.
89:43Never seen fourth and 43 in my life, but that's how that went.
89:46And then another sack, fumble early in the fourth.
89:49So a lot of turnovers, not just from Jeremy Bernard, from the quarterback too.
89:53On DK Metcalf. At one point, JJ Watt said they need DK Metcalf to be, you know, a wide receiver one, paraphrasing here and that.
90:01I'm like, here's the problem, boys. He's not. Like, he hasn't been for several years and they paid him a dumb contract
90:07after that trade that makes him – again, where he's just not that guy at this point.
90:12He has 19 targets through two games. Only four players have more targets than that.
90:17Amon Ross St. Brown, Chris Olave, Trey McBride, and Dalton Schultz somehow.
90:20He has 67 yards. That is the same amount of yards as David Njoku, who was carted off today.
90:2673 players have more yards than DK Metcalf right now, including Ryan Miller of the Miami Dolphins.
90:31So it's been a horrific start to the year for DK Metcalf.
90:34And today was one of those situations where he was going to be banged no matter what because he gets the shadow
90:41treatment from Christian Gonzalez, who's like a way better corner than he is a receiver.
90:45And they basically just only stick him on the outside and run low percentage routes with the quarterback who only throws low percentage routes.
90:52So, I mean, DK's screwed in fantasy and in real life, again, the whole – like, they need him to be something that he's just not.
91:00Didn't he drop three or four as well? Yes, he also dropped a bunch of passes too.
91:05Yeah, they said that three or four, he had just another drop, another drop.
91:09And then he wants to push and shove Christian Gonzalez because he's pissed off.
91:13Like, you're dropping the ball. That's the thing. Like, you're not going to get that many clean opportunities in this game.
91:20And the clean opportunities he did get, he pretty much dropped them all.
91:23So. Matt, my last question just goes to the Patriots backfield.
91:27Now that we got Hendo back in, I believe I saw Ramondre fumbled early on in this game too.
91:32So we close with 16 carries for Hendo versus 6 for Ramondre.
91:36Are there any sweeping conclusions we can take from this?
91:39Ramondre fumbled on the first drive too, by the way.
91:42So you start off with your wrong foot there if you're Ramondre Stevenson.
91:46Yeah, Hederson ended up playing more snaps, got way more carries.
91:49You know, Stevenson was pretty much shelled at one point after the fumble, came back later in the game.
91:54I think, again, with another – with an offensive line injury here, Eli Raritan also got hurt in this game after he
92:01had a splash catch, and he's a pretty useful blocker for them.
92:04I just really wonder, like, if this offense is going to be bad, and we're not going to – we're going to be talking about a split backfield.
92:13With the rushing game too? And we're talking about a split backfield on a team that's really shaky.
92:18And Henderson, yeah, he had the one explosive play, and like Henderson, he can do that.
92:23But I'm still kind of waiting on him being more of like a consistent down-to-down threat, and I don't know that we saw that in this game necessarily.
92:31They're in Jacksonville next week too, which is like historically just a really awesome run defense team.
92:36If we don't have good answers, both of them are going to be hard to trust.
92:41I will say after that, at Buffalo, Raiders, Jets, Bears, Dolphins in a row there.
92:45So, like, if you want to dream big on Travion, like, in a little bit here, I think that you – this
92:52was like the first bit of evidence in, like, what, eight, nine months that we've had of Travion Henderson?
92:57So, like, I still want to, like, count this as a win.
93:01Yeah, there was like an eight-game stretch last year where the only successful runs this team had when both were out there
93:07were the outside pitches to Travion Henderson. And I'm wondering if we're kind of getting back to that already.
93:13All right. I know offenses have been struggling across the league, but not Bryce Young.
93:17Not this one. Not the Panthers. They dominate. And I mean dominate.
93:21The Atlanta Falcons, 34-33. This is another three-touchdown game from Bryce Young.
93:25The first, a fourth and goal from the three-yard line.
93:27Dave Canales puts his nuts on the table immediately.
93:30Chuba Hubbard receiving touchdown. Next, after that, a couple field goals.
93:33Bryce gets the ball with 1-0-2 left on the clock ahead of halftime on his own 27.
93:38Immediate sack. Second and 16. He rips it. 55 yards to Xavier Lee Get.
93:43Yes. Down the heart of the defense. Splits both the safeties.
93:46Three plays later, a third down touchdown pass to Mr.
93:49High Rocks himself, Darren Waller. His first of two on the day.
93:52Then out of halftime, another third and 12. A perfectly timed throw route from Bryce Young to Jalen Coker for a first down.
93:59Then he gets a single high look. A blitzer directing his face.
94:03Bryce Young lobs it to the left to Tedron McMillan.
94:0629 yards. One-on-one along the sideline. Third and fourth scramble to set up first and goal.
94:10And then yes, on first and goal again. Threaded 12-yard touchdown to Darren Waller for a second of the day.
94:16That puts the Panthers up 27-3. Now, that's good.
94:19But the real MVP, and yes, he'll be the defensive player of the week.
94:23He did something that no one's ever done in history since like 1950.
94:27Devin Lloyd, the free agent linebacker for the Panthers.
94:30Pass breakup on the first drive to force an early interception.
94:33Another interception on Cooper Rush later on. A tackle for loss on Drake London that Tommy Reese, instead of a fourth and one to hand off to Bijan.
94:41Instead, he calls an end around to Drake London who gets tackled five yards in the backfield.
94:46So a turnover on downs there. A sack from Devin Lloyd.
94:49And then a pick six on Jack Strand's first pass of his NFL career.
94:54Just a hell of a day for Devin Lloyd.
94:56And this is likely the end of Cooper Rush's career.
94:59He fumbled on the first snap on a scramble.
95:02Interception on the fourth snap. And he was relentlessly getting booed by, I guess you'd call them the Falcons faithful.
95:08To the point that some fan brought a, we want strand sign.
95:11So homemade to the stands. And you got what you asked for there as well.
95:16Dude, they probably paid real American dollars for that.
95:18Yeah. They went to FedEx. They went to FedEx and said, I take my money, my hard earned United States dollars and print that thing out.
95:26That's where the Falcons are. I saw Drake London was like yelling at, was it fans or teammates or something?
95:32I mean, he's got to be one of the most like frustrated players.
95:36Look at that. We want that. That's not bad.
95:38That's legit. The production quality could be a lot worse.
95:41He spent at least, you know, two hours making that thing.
95:45Just quickly on the Falcons. Like Bijan, 4.5 yards per carry, 16 carries, 72 yards.
95:49I don't think he touched the football with like 12 minutes to go in the game because it was so over.
95:55Uh, Drake London, five targets, four receptions, 51 yards, a nice early 17 yard game.
96:00But after that, it was really tough sledding and cow pits one catch for 15 yards.
96:04Had another one bounce out of his hands and the rest of the game, Mike does not matter for the Falcons.
96:11Uh, Josh, I am expecting. Yeah, go ahead. I got a question for you, man, because I'm kind of with you.
96:17There's been a lot of Bryce Young slander. And as we sit back today and look at the state of the quarterback
96:23position, Drake May, uh, four interceptions, the one touchdown, Bo Nix launching picks left and right.
96:28You know, all of this stuff, Jaden Daniels, we'll talk about that.
96:32I mean, are you starting Bryce Young? Is this must start territory at this point with how he's playing?
96:37And I'm looking at the consolidation for the offense again, like that's another three touchdowns without McMillan nor Jalen Coker getting in the end zone.
96:45He's playing great football right now. Like I get, he can only face who's on the schedule, but is he getting to
96:51the point where he's on must start territory? So we have talked about this relentlessly.
96:56Matt, you've done so on your show, Ray, you have as well.
96:59People did not wrap their heads around Dave Canales, giving up the play calling and it going to Brad Edzik.
97:05And there is such a massive difference here of immediately from the first series of the first game, them allowing and building
97:12an offense around Bryce Young's downfield capabilities. To the tune that he is top five and intended air yards per attempt right now in the league.
97:19I mean, he's tied with Justin Herbert and Josh Allen in terms of intended air yards per attempt only behind Trevor Lawrence and Lamar Jackson.
97:27And he's completing a bunch of them. And this is an aggressive downfield style, not ball control.
97:32Granted, they have played the bears and they have played the Atlanta Falcons.
97:36But guess what guys next two weeks, you got the Browns and the lions.
97:40So if we're getting in lines on the Bryce Young, not just super flex, but in single quarterback stuff, it's these next
97:46two weeks where you could have, again, very similar performances, I think, to this one.
97:51Hey, Josh, what about the backfield here? I saw Jonathan Brooks with a groin injury.
97:55I'm assuming that's the same groin injury that he had in training camp.
97:59It's just going to be the Chuba Hubbard as like a top 15 fantasy running back.
98:04Yep, it is that simple. Chuba Hubbard was in there early on in the I-10 stuff.
98:08He got 12 carries for 53 yards. Again, did get that receiving touchdown.
98:12And then, you know, Jonathan Brooks mixed in here and there just five carries.
98:16But his last carry was like you were expecting a, let's say, Emmanuel Wilson type fourth quarter for him.
98:22Like, let's give him 10 carries. Let's have some fun.
98:25Let's see what he's got. He tries to turn the corner and then has zero juice, takes himself to the medical tent.
98:31And Dave Canales says it is the same groin issue that sparked up in training camp.
98:36And so I'm assuming I wouldn't be surprised if he gets puts on like short term IR for that.
98:42Yeah. And AJ Dillon is a backup backup or backup running back here.
98:46So, yeah, I mean, it's all Chuba Hubbard. And I will say this, the Panthers offense, like this was not a clean process for this team.
98:53I think the offensive line had eight or nine penalties, including two false starts by Rob Hunt, some holdings, illegal hands to
99:00the face, all this type of stuff. They overcame it.
99:03So there's still some things to iron out with that.
99:06But man, we'd love to see 10 targets for Ted Arroyo McMillan, five for 101.
99:10They did some cool leak patterns, some move out of the pocket, all that type of stuff.
99:15Jalen Coker, by the way, is now this team's punt returner on top of it.
99:20And he goes for 36 yards on the first punt return out there.
99:23I've never noticed. I don't know. I mean, what can't he do?
99:27What can't he do on this team? Nothing. And he even gets eight for 66, including, you know, an awesome sideline grab.
99:33And then Darren Waller is the sneaky tight end premium play, especially when we get to like the low red zone where
99:40he adds that third dynamic with T-Mac, with Jalen Coker.
99:43And then you get Darren Waller more in the slot and you can like run in breakers.
99:48You can run pylon routes, corner routes with him.
99:51And yeah, he's a go-to player for them in the tight red zone.
99:54That's for sure. Nothing. All right. We got two more quick games.
99:58Ray, your Dallas Cowboys rebound in a big way.
100:0137 to 20 win over the Washington commanders. I hate to say it, but I think the only place to start though
100:07is with those commanders because their season might've changed entirely.
100:10Jane Daniels looks to re injure the same elbow injury as last year.
100:14Looks like a dislocation to my untrained eye. The thing with it, Ray, it wasn't on contact.
100:19He was going from under center and trying to plant with it, put it on the turf.
100:24And it almost goes in the opposite direction and pops out there.
100:28So we saw what this offense looked like last year.
100:30I'll be it with Cliff Kingsbury and Marcus Mariota leading the operation.
100:34But again, here we are after week two with commanders.
100:37Oh, and two and without their franchise quarterback. Yeah, this was, this was the, definitely the biggest takeaway, right?
100:43We could talk about Dak and there's some really, really awesome stats about what Dak did.
100:47Something that hadn't been done in two years. And maybe we'll get to that, but Jane Daniels, and I'll just say this
100:54different circumstances, different injured parts of the body. But this feels exactly like the time when the Washington commanders had a all-star
101:00rookie quarterback, rushed him back on the field. And in the second season, he got injured again and was never the same.
101:07This happened on the play before halftime. He stumbled out, out from the snap, went back to put his hand on the ground.
101:14No one fell on him. Just, it popped out again.
101:17And all you're thinking is, like, is this going to be a common occurrence?
101:21It looked and felt so bad because he gets on the cart and he's driving off and you can just see disappointment on his face.
101:28It wasn't tears. It felt like he was saying, damn it, here we go again.
101:33And, yeah, that's the biggest takeaway. And once that, once that happened, I mean, they were so desperate, y'all.
101:38They ran, I believe, in one series. They had two different trick plays where they're throwing the ball to receiver and missing Terry McLaurin down the field.
101:46And they try to do something else on the opposite side of the field.
101:50And you're watching, like, what is David Blau doing?
101:53I'll just say this. Dallas' defense is still terrible.
101:56So anybody can run on them. And Jaden Daniels was running all over him prior to the injury.
102:01But this is tough. And I'll say I don't know where they go from here.
102:05But because Dallas' defense is so bad, once Marcus Mariota got in, he was doing the same stuff Jaden Daniels was doing.
102:12It just, the defense is so bad in Dallas that it didn't really kind of matter who was there.
102:18But moving forward, I thought the running backs played really well.
102:21Stephon Diggs, I think we've all talked about him.
102:23He's their best wide receiver. Full stop right now, especially with Shago Conquo out.
102:28This is rough for Washington. Did Terry McLaurin have a touchdown callback?
102:31Like, his day might look a lot different than it was here.
102:35He didn't, he never got it. Like, it was in the end zone.
102:38He got up. They called it a touchdown. But the ball, once you see the replay, he never had control of it.
102:45It was on the ground. It could have looked better.
102:48And then Antonio, he did miss him wide open on a trick play.
102:52But the primary, it felt like it was Stephon Diggs when they needed to play down the stretch.
102:57You see the nine targets here. Hayden shaking his head.
103:00Go ahead, Hayden. It felt like Diggs was the best guy on the field for him.
103:05I just keep getting like a Monroe St. Brown vibes.
103:08Like, from the David Blau offense. Like, there was backfield stuff.
103:11Once again, you just open underneath. And he looks really explosive.
103:14I mean, he was getting Cooper to Gene one-on-one in week one multiple times.
103:18And just like cooking him. And he dropped a couple passes.
103:22In that week one game, that could have been like 100 yards and even more.
103:26And then once again, like you said, nine targets in this one.
103:30And I did see his one touchdown grab, which was by design as well.
103:34So, like, he's the easy button in this offense.
103:36I'm not sure if they're going to be able to run the ball that consistently this year.
103:41Because the state of their offensive line. I saw Connerly's banged up with a finger injury on top of it.
103:47So, like, if they're going to have to do like a scammy version with Marcus Mariota.
103:52And I think Marcus Mariota among backup quarterbacks is like absolutely one of the best in the league.
103:57And we saw that like the EPA numbers the last couple years.
104:01Like, he can absolutely run a scammy type of offense.
104:04If not even something better than that. So, I think that Steph Diggs, like, no doubt about it, top 30 guy in fantasy right now.
104:11I've got some bad news for you. They face the Seattle Seahawks in week three.
104:16In week four. Week four. Not next week. But again, if we're going back to like the conversation about how 0% of
104:22people should have started Marvin Harrison today. Like, Terry McLaurin is going to be that sacrificial player again.
104:28It looks like Antonio Williams was tied with Deami Brown for second on the team in routes ahead of Stephon Diggs.
104:34So, I don't know if Diggs can just like not play a full snap chair at this point in his career.
104:40Or if like they don't want him out there in a blocking game.
104:44And look. Yeah, his contract. Also, by the way.
104:46It's working. My boy, Stephon Diggs, like, never been interested in the blocking game.
104:51Even at his like best days. Like, I've even like talked with him about that.
104:55So, yeah, I mean, William, like maybe we just don't need all these Deami Brown routes because I would like to see more Antonio Williams.
105:02I'd like to see more Steph Diggs. But, yeah, I'm with Hayden.
105:06Like, at this point, he should be the odds on favor to lead this team in targets, catches, and yards going forward.
105:12Right? Anything you want to say about the Cowboys?
105:15Oh, yeah. I'll just say Deami Brown did have a touchdown that when y'all see it, I have no idea how that was not called a touchdown.
105:23I'll just – even the announcers were like that should have been – I don't know how they ruled that.
105:29But Cowboys, I think the biggest takeaway, CeeDee Lamb is the guy.
105:33I mean, it was great to see him get back going again.
105:36And let me just read this from you about Dak Prescott.
105:39His 17.9 EPA across his drawbacks in this game, the most amongst any quarterback who faced a pressure rate north of 40%
105:46in a game over the last two seasons. He was 17 for 18, all four of his touchdowns when he was kept
105:52clean, and all four of his TDs traveled 10 yards down the field.
105:56It felt like this offense said, okay, we don't know what happened in week one, but let's get to doing what we do best.
106:03And the most disappointing part of the offense was how bad Javante Williams looked.
106:07I mean, I'm looking at him run. Like, they've got to find somebody else with some juice in the backfield.
106:13He looked terrible running the ball today. Jake Ferguson, two touchdowns.
106:17Go figure that would happen after I slandered him all week.
106:20But George Pickens and CeeDee Lamb both had eight-plus targets, but it was CeeDee Lamb as the one.
106:25And there's no doubt about it. It is CeeDee Lamb as the primary.
106:29George Pickens is the secondary in this offense. Next two weeks for the Cowboys, some big tests, the Ravens and the Texans.
106:36So, look, they poured it on the commanders here, but those would be some interesting conversations.
106:40Obviously, they're very straight-lined with who gets the fantasy points, but maybe just our expectations with that.
106:45Okay. I'll just quickly go through the 49ers and the Dolphins.
106:49I had this on the second screen. I mean, the 49ers demolished them 35 to 13.
106:53Brock Purdy was freaking outstanding in the pocket, out of the pocket, short area quickness, 20 of 22.
106:59He had as many touchdowns as he did in completions for 287 yards.
107:02Was also the team's leading rusher with 30 yards and a rushing score.
107:06Chris McCaffrey does get 10 carries for 23 yards and two goal-line touchdowns on top of it.
107:11I think the big takeaway is George Kittle on almost back-to-back plays gets a 40-yarder on this kind of boot action second-level throw to Kittle.
107:19And then he scampers for 40. And then two-ish plays later is wide open in the end zone for a 16-yard grab for a score.
107:26So, he's the team's leading receiver. And then Mike Evans was one yard short of a touchdown on a crossing route himself.
107:33Finishes three targets, three catches for 54. He left with a hip injury.
107:36I think at that time, the 49ers were up like 35 to 6.
107:40So, I am assuming that those two things are linked to Hayden.
107:44And Mike Evans isn't very banged up. It was just time to rest him for the rest of the day.
107:50Yeah, they said it was not serious after the game.
107:53I had the same read on that. But we can't overstate this.
107:56This was a perfect game from Brock Purdy. Looking at the advanced numbers, it does not get better than what they did there.
108:03This Dolphins team, by far the youngest. And that's at all levels.
108:07Chop Robinson was out there. We know that we have to play players against the Dolphins.
108:11But we're getting close. So, this could be a historically bad Dolphins defense this year.
108:16Oh, yeah. And to your point, they are the youngest roster offensively.
108:19And they're the youngest roster defensively. And it shows out there.
108:2349ers players were wide open all over the field.
108:25Just flat out wide open. For the Dolphins, that wasn't the case.
108:29For Malik Willis takes four sacks in this game.
108:31197 yards. I would assume a lot of that was in the second half.
108:36And then, yeah. Devon HN, just tough sledding. 20 carries.
108:3974 yards. Did have some downfield targets on his six.
108:41But just catches three for 19. Josh, can I ask you a tough question that nobody wants to hear?
108:47And nobody probably wants to answer this. Is Christian McCaffrey just...
108:50I get what he scores us. And we take the points.
108:54But is there... Is he getting to the point where he is declining?
108:57Like, does he... When you're watching him... Like, when I saw that swing route.
109:02And he tried to juke a defender. And he got pissed because he got tackled.
109:06He couldn't make a move. Is he... I don't want to say cooked.
109:10But are we getting there with Christian McCaffrey? So, we can close on this.
109:14The CMC stuff. As we talked about last week.
109:17And we talked about it during stats versus film.
109:19But is going to take the largest piece of the pie that we've ever seen attached to CMC.
109:25Maybe that's 70-30, 65-35. And that's going to make CMC closer to...
109:28I don't know. The running back 8 or 12 in expected points.
109:32Now, in this game, obviously, you play him and you start him and he gets two goal line touchdowns.
109:37But outside of that, there's not as much. But then the trade-off with that is hopefully he's more explosive.
109:43More spry. Versus literally being the least efficient. An explosive runner in the league last season.
109:48So, it's a good offense that we want to be a part of.
109:52I would always take the 90% usage on running back 1 over and over and over again that we got last year.
109:58I think the big question, Ray... And Hayden, I would love your input on this.
110:02Would that make CMC like a silent killer for your team?
110:06If you took him as the 5th overall player and he finishes as like the 14th overall player?
110:11Or should we just be like, fine with that and we move on?
110:15I mean, I think so. I mean, you're going to look at some crazy box scores from Jameer Gibbs and we'll see
110:21about, you know, obviously, like Jamar Chase, JSNs of the world.
110:25Like, that's who we sandwiched between. So, we'll see on that.
110:28I do think McCaffrey's going to be just fine because it looks like this 49ers team might just be like the 3rd or 4th best offense again.
110:36You know? And if that's the case, then even in that role, he's going to have box scores like this where you get 20 fantasy points.
110:44And whether he was good or not, like, it doesn't really matter.
110:47He's not going to have the legendary season, though, that he's had previously.
110:51So, I guess that's disappointing. Yeah. I think there's a difference in, like, 20 fantasy points per game, which he did score this week, versus 16-15 per week.
110:59Yes. All right. Yeah. That does it. I know I'll be back tomorrow night after Monday Night Football with Joel Smith on the Waver Wire.
111:07Tune into that episode. Thank you all for the comments.
111:10Ray, you're the man. Matt, you're the man. Go and watch their channels.
111:13Go and watch their work. I know Matt has the panic meter.
111:17And boy, oh, boy, is there going to be a lot of panic after this week of action.
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