0:00Welcome to the Week 3 Running Back Rankings. Yes, Boone is back along with Hayden.
0:04We go through 1 through 42 of the running backs here on this list and it's fully tiered out.
0:09Okay, you've got your S tier all the way down to your D tier.
0:13So I know so many of you are confused about your flex options.
0:16Who do I start after the two running backs in my starting lineup?
0:20Is it this wide receiver? Is this tight end?
0:22Well, hopefully we talk through all the names to help you master your lineup ahead of the running backs.
0:27Head of Week 3 along with the overformers and underperformers, the sell highs and the by lows.
0:32We've got it all here on this episode of Yahoo Fantasy Football with Josh and Hayden.
0:36Week 3. Yes, it is already here. Time for the running back rankings.
0:40And gentlemen, obviously we're going to go through tiers with this.
0:43We added that dimension onto the show last week.
0:45I'm even going through like the running back ones and the running back twos.
0:49Boone, I feel like the flex conversation this week and with wide receivers and moving forward.
0:53Might be different than it's been for the last four or five years in fancy football.
0:57Whereas not to make this tight end show, but like really it's now a three position flex versus a two position flex.
1:03Well, that sounds pretty good considering I'm a guy who drafted two decent or at least I think decent tight ends in our expert league.
1:10And that is not the last time we will talk about the expert league today.
1:14I got a few things to say about that one, but yeah, absolutely.
1:17There are some tight ends that can sneak into the flex.
1:20And there's also like some wild injury situations where we're getting updates, like right before we jumped on to record where we
1:26thought it was completely one way in terms of injuries in these backfields.
1:30And now they've completely flipped. We're finding out guys that we thought were the healthy ones are actually hurt today.
1:35So we'll sort through all of that, but we got a lot to talk about.
1:39So I noticed the same thing where I feel really excellent about like the top 24 wide receivers.
1:44And then after I get to about 22 in my running back rankings, things are starting to get really split, whether it's
1:50like quarterback injuries are affecting running backs or we have some like real tandem that are going to make this a lot more difficult.
1:56So I, I feel really good about the top, let's say 18 running backs.
2:00Then after that we are, we're in, we're in kind of trouble right now.
2:04And on the final tight end note, this is something that we talked about all summer where more and more heavier personnel eliminates, you know, the quality.
2:11And I would also say even more so the quantity of wide receivers that are viable in the flex again, versus five years ago.
2:17And if in those heavier personnel, sometimes the tight end is the number two or number three pass catcher on the field.
2:23So again, it opens it up. Keep your mind open more so than it has been in previous years.
2:28These are Justin Boone's rankings. He is updating them into the last second until, until kickoff.
2:32So is Hayden on top of that. By the way, Hayden, you are what fourth in the fancy pros rankings at this moment.
2:39Again, I will repeat room for improvement. I don't like being this high.
2:42It's too much pressure. Well, you know who does enjoy being this high?
2:46Jameer Gibbs is Justin Boone's one-on-one at the running back spot this week.
2:49He faced off against the New York, New York jets.
2:52What do you want to say here, Boone? I look forward to getting to a week where he's not the number one.
2:58That'll be interesting because I feel like most of these weeks he's going to occupy this spot, but yeah, what is there to say?
3:04They're huge favorites. They're back home. It's going to be a ton of points in this contest.
3:09They've scored 31 points in each of the first two games.
3:12He's awesome. He's awesome. He's going to be a great fantasy play basically every single week.
3:16And Josh in the summer, we talked about some bold predictions.
3:19And one of the ones I had was that he was going to set the single season scrimmage yards record.
3:24Well, right now he's on pace for 2,542 yards.
3:26And that record is 2,509 yards by CJ2K. Although there's a 17 game, 16 game thing going on there, but we won't even mention that.
3:33We don't need to bring that up. Regardless, he is on pace for just a monster season and he's going to have another big game this week.
3:40Only negatives right now is they're missing their center, their left guard and their right tackle.
3:45We'll see if any of those players are eligible to return.
3:48Maybe Blake Miller, the right tackle will be able to do that.
3:51That said, they're still projected for almost 28 points.
3:53Fifth most since week 10 of last year, Jets are allowing the most fantasy points per game to running backs adjusting for schedule.
3:59So this is a obvious running back one overall spot.
4:02It only took until week three, but we have a new name at the running back two spot.
4:07That is Ken Walker III, our guy, K-9. This is at the Miami Dolphins.
4:11Just to put that in perspective, how good the Chiefs offense has been this season.
4:15They're now on the road, 11 and a half point favorites against this Miami Dolphins defense.
4:1928 and a half point team total. Boone, we've talked about it.
4:22Ken Walker averaging around 31 and a half opportunities.
4:25I'll be perfectly fine to settle for about 26, 27 per week.
4:28Yeah, for sure. And I think it's nice for Jameer Gibbs that we're going to give him a friend up in this S tier, right?
4:34Like get somebody up there with him for once.
4:37And that's how well Kenneth Walker is playing. And that's how good this matchup is, right?
4:41Ashton Gent, he went against this defense RB5 in week one, CMC RB3 last week.
4:45You know, you have the number one running back in fantasy points per game against arguably, maybe not even arguably, the worst defense out there.
4:52And Hayden, I'm curious, we'll talk about this guy maybe a little bit later, but I'm curious in this kind of matchup
4:58with the points that we're expecting them to score with how well Emmitt Johnson has looked.
5:02Is this a spot where maybe we could even sneak Emmitt Johnson into our flexes?
5:06Yeah, I think he's at the same conversation as Blake Corum.
5:09I hope we're not at that point before by weeks and like full injuries, but I think that you can get away with it.
5:15But like you said, he's absolutely in the Jameer Gibbs conversation for this week.
5:19Projected for the most points, the Dolphins made Ashton Gentey look good at football in week one.
5:24That's sometimes difficult to do. I'm mostly kidding about that.
5:26Yeah, there's nothing negative you can say about Kenneth Walker.
5:29Career high in targets last week. RB1 overall usage like this is as good as it possibly could have been.
5:34Hayden, are we getting picky? Is this the top two?
5:37Is this the S tier? And there's a gap between this group and the next group.
5:41I think there is. But if we don't think if we don't want to have like five or six different rows here, I'm okay with continuing on.
5:49But I think like my true serum would be it's these two guys and everybody else.
5:53I think we should be honest here, Boone, and say that B.
5:56John Robinson, as you're running back three, belongs in A tier and not S tier.
6:00This is at the Green Bay Packers. This is obviously Thursday night.
6:03Boone, one stat for you. The Falcons are the only team remaining that has yet to run an offensive play in the red zone.
6:10We know that's where the vast majority of touchdowns happen.
6:12That's not just inside the 10-yard line. That's in the red zone altogether.
6:16So he has 29 touches and 19 touches in the week two blowout.
6:19They kind of gave him a bit of a breather once they got to the fourth quarter.
6:24What are you expecting here with B. John in week three?
6:27Well, the reason that he's a tier below is just the unknown, right?
6:30The unknown at quarterback. I think Michael Penick's coming back is going to be really good for this offense.
6:35We saw this offense with Michael Penick's, albeit different coaching staff.
6:38But still, we saw Michael Penick's get these guys in good fantasy positions last year through the first 11 weeks before Penick's got hurt.
6:45He was the RB4 in fantasy points per game.
6:47Drake London was the wide receiver three overall. Not to spoil your episode on receivers, but I think Drake London should move
6:53back into a range that we're used to seeing him in potentially for this game.
6:57I think it's a good spot for him. But yeah, regardless, Sean Robinson is so talented.
7:01He's got so many different ways than he can get there.
7:04When Penick's was playing last year, we saw him get at least five targets in eight of those 10 games.
7:10So I think we're going to see him come through, have a big contest.
7:13I just don't think necessarily we can put him up with that top group yet until we see Penick's in this new
7:19scheme performing and giving them like decent quarterback play.
7:22Yeah, the upside is 12 games with Michael Penick's, who's the RB1 21.6 half-peer points and RB2 overall.
7:26You said that's the upside because I'm not sure how good of a player Penick's is going to be in this scheme coming off of another injury here.
7:34They're only projected for 19 points. I will give some credit to the Packers defense.
7:38Jonathan Gannon is an elite defensive coordinator, according to his own head coach there, Lucas Van Ness, coming on.
7:43Javon Bullard coming on at safety as well. I do think this Packers defense is going to be a lot better than
7:49it has been in the past short week for the Falcons here.
7:52But, you know, he's still going to catch six passes, even if he doesn't get it done on the ground.
7:57Yeah, he's the running back seven so far this season in points per game.
8:01But again, those 29 and 19 touches do a lot better when the team is better.
8:05Yep. Again, getting back to the, you know, scoring opportunities.
8:08And just overall, Reeves pointed this out. With Cooper Rush in the field, Bijan was averaging .84 fantasy points per snap.
8:14With Michael Penick's, that rate is 1.02 points per snap.
8:16So that factors in everything that we just said.
8:19All right. Your running back four is Christian McCaffrey.
8:21This is against the Arizona Cardinals. It's interesting. He is still a stellar fantasy asset, obviously, because this team is scoring a lot of points.
8:28Still the running back nine in points per game at this point.
8:31But that includes a 55 and 52% snap. But boom, this is a matchup that we just want to have every single 49er in our lineups possible.
8:38Yeah, for sure. And last week, we haven't really gotten like a normal game to see what would happen with this offense.
8:44Right. The Rams game in Australia. They kind of blew them out and took control of that one.
8:49We saw Caleb Williams get involved a whole bunch.
8:51And then last week with Miami, it's kind of a weird one where they got up really big.
8:56And before they got up, we saw him playing over 75% of the snaps.
9:00We saw him handling over 70% of the work in that backfield.
9:03And then down the stretch, they just handed it to Black.
9:06And I think even Jordan James got out there at one point.
9:09They just kind of let the other backs get involved.
9:12So CMC, not the same player. Still going to get a lot of volume.
9:16I'd like to see like a normal game where we can figure out just how much they're going to use both of these back.
9:22Because I don't think Caleb Black is going away.
9:25I think they are going to continue to get him involved.
9:28And that's going to just bring CMC down a little bit.
9:30But I also think it's so smart to do this.
9:33I mean, Kyle Shanahan saw the Seahawks in their division do this last year and keep Kenneth Walker healthy.
9:38And then when they needed to unleash him, they did at the end.
9:42I think they're probably hoping that CMC can stay healthy and that they can make a Super Bowl run.
9:47And they can maybe give him more work once they get to that point.
9:51But regardless, it's still CMC. He's going to get enough volume.
9:53He's going to get scoring opportunities. And with all the injuries that we've seen to this offense, guys, like he has to handle this kind of workload.
10:01So yeah, he's still a great player for fantasy.
10:03Also my RB4, there is some positives still. 23% target share through two weeks is awesome for a running back.
10:08That's RB3. Still catching four and a half receptions per game.
10:11That's RB5. He's losing some between the tackles or between the 20s work.
10:15But last week, there was three drives where Christian McCaffrey got an inside the five-yard line touch.
10:19Kalen Black did not get any of those on three separate drives there.
10:23So that's telling me that the high-value touches are definitely going to go Christian McCaffrey's way.
10:27I don't really care about losing a run up the middle from the 50-yard line.
10:31So I still think he's an awesome player. Yeah, and last year, he had a lot of success against the Cardinals.
10:37I know there's some changes, obviously, year to year, but 140 scrimmage yards and had 10 catches in their first meeting.
10:42And then in the second game, 121 yards and three touchdowns when they squared off there.
10:47So a lot of signs pointing to him having a good game here.
10:50To your point, Boone, Nick Rollis is still the DC as he was last year, even with the head coach, a new head coach coming in.
10:57So there is some stability there. It's always a good sign when two of the top four ranked running backs are on
11:03the teams with the two top projections of the week.
11:06And also the biggest point spreads as well at 11.5 and 8.5 for the Chiefs and the 49ers.
11:11Hayden, I want to come to you first with Derek Henry, who's also in this tier as the running back five.
11:16This is at the Dallas Cowboys. It's so fun.
11:19I mean, again, we're here in week three. In the summer, you can tell yourself, well, Derek Henry might not pay off
11:24if the Ravens aren't as good and they work from negative game scripts.
11:28And then you can on the opposite end of that say, well, the Ravens are going to be pretty freaking good.
11:34And when they're good, Derek Henry scores at least 12 touchdowns.
11:36RB3 and RB7 usage so far averaging 20 carries over 100 rushing yards.
11:40That's like the normal for Derek Henry. The thing I'm paying attention to, Ronnie Stanley, their left tackle toe injury is kind
11:46of in and out of the lineup. I'd like to see him out there because he's like probably their best offensive lineman right now.
11:52And then the other kind of new thing is a couple more targets than usual to Derek Henry.
11:57I think that's largely just like a Declan Doyle thing.
12:00Three of his targets were like checkdowns. Like I wouldn't read into that.
12:03And a couple of them, Derek Henry's like laying on the ground and gets up and then is out in the route.
12:09So they weren't like necessarily by design. But at least two weeks in a row, there was a screen involvement.
12:14And I'm not going to say he's going to catch that many more passes than usual.
12:19But just one. One more a week. Like that's an extra fantasy point in favor of Derek Henry.
12:24Yeah. Four catches for 38 yards through two games is extremely notable for a guy that had what, 15 catches and like 150 receiving yards last year.
12:31Like he's well on his way to having much higher receiving stats this season.
12:35So that's big. Very high projection for this game.
12:37Yeah. Derek Henry. Josh, you mentioned like people in the summer talking themselves out of Henry.
12:41That's me. I'm the guy that's always talking myself out of Henry in the summer and going, no, the age curve.
12:47It's totally going to fall apart. This dude's going to play until he's like 50.
12:51He is one of one. He is the king.
12:53I am wrong. I bow down. And, you know, I just I ask for his forgiveness on this one.
12:58He's going to have another great fantasy season. Hey, is it already fair to say that at the one to turn, the
13:04ideal picks would have been Derek Henry and Ken Walker?
13:07Like, is that what the draft should have been at the one to turn?
13:11Yep. Turns out, you know, the teams that are always in the playoffs, they're running back.
13:15You want those running backs? Yeah, that's pretty good.
13:17And we know that they're awesome at football. Yeah.
13:20Kenneth Walker and Derek, I think if you watch a single game of theirs, they might be good.
13:25Like, yeah, turns out. Okay. Ashton Gentry is up next for you, Boone.
13:28This is different than consensus. He's running back eight for consensus and running back eight for Hayden.
13:33He's your running back six. Does he also belong in the A tier for you?
13:37Yeah, he's still he's still in this tier in my mind.
13:40I mean, we saw the big game in week one.
13:42We know going against the Saints, there's going to be a lot of opportunity for for plays for scoring.
13:47We've seen that with other guys this year so far.
13:50I mean, New Orleans, 186 yards and two TDs to Gibbs in week one, 87 and a touchdown to Henry last week.
13:56I know Hayden kind of joked around about Ashton Gentry and his talent level earlier, but I do think he belongs here.
14:02I would put him up against. It's very close with James Cook, obviously, and with Jonathan Taylor, not to spoil the next couple here.
14:08But these guys are all very close. If you want to shuffle them up, put them a different way.
14:13To me, it's just sort of matchup based. And I like Gentry situation here.
14:17We're not seeing Mike Washington Jr. get that involved in this backfield.
14:20And that's almost surprising. I did think the way things progressed through the summer.
14:24I know there was the Gentry injury, obviously, but I thought Mike Washington would get more involved.
14:28I still think he's a player that people should be holding on to as a potential one injury away guy who could
14:34have a lot of value if Gentry gets hurt.
14:37We had an injury scare last week, right? We saw him leave with trainers, got back out there.
14:42Those seems like he's fine. But yeah, that's one thing that is kind of surprising to me that Mike Washington Jr.
14:47Not really a thing in this offense so far.
14:50Gentry was stuffed on four straight inside the five yard line carries and then had the three dropped.
14:54I don't think it was the best game all around for for the Raiders through two weeks.
14:59Point 11 missed tackles per care, which is pretty low.
15:02Point four yards before contact is also pretty low for the Raiders.
15:05So it's a better environment. It's not the greatest environment still for Ashton Gentry.
15:09He's still catching a ton of passes and he's going to get all the goal line work.
15:13So I think he's firmly an RB one Saints defense has been like pretty solid over the last couple of years with Brandon Staley.
15:20I think Chase Young's been playing excellent football at edge rusher there.
15:23So I think that he's going to be totally fine as an RB one volume play.
15:27Totally good at an A tier. This is such a different team environment than the ones we've already talked about where again,
15:33the Chiefs project for 28 and a half. The 49ers projected for 28.
15:36The Ravens project for 28. The Lions projected for 27.
15:39Obviously, you have the Falcons down at 19 and three quarters, but only just above that is the Raiders next at 20 and a half.
15:46So, you know, Brandon Staley in his past has been known to just allow the run and then not give up explosives.
15:52That's changed a little bit in recent years. But obviously the Saints had a whole bunch of injuries along their interior defensive line.
15:58So I think this is a good test for the Raiders versus, you know, the week one Dolphin stuff and then what
16:04week two they face on top of it of what this really is for him.
16:08Next up is James Cook as you're running back seven.
16:10Is this A tier or B tier, Boone? This is still A tier.
16:14Okay. It's a little tougher. It's a tough matchup going against the Chargers, right?
16:18And, you know, we saw him have a quieter day against Houston in the opener.
16:22Of course, he goes off where basically everybody for the Bills went off in that Lions game except for TJ Moore who got hurt early, of course.
16:29Hopefully he's going to be okay. We want to see him back out there as a Bills fan.
16:34But yeah, this one's a little bit tough, right?
16:36Like you think the Chargers, they held Jente to 63 yards on 25 touches.
16:40Not great there. I wouldn't be surprised if Cook doesn't have a huge day, which is why I moved Jente above him
16:46and why I've kind of been struggling with the Jonathan Taylor and the Cook and trying to figure out where he belongs here.
16:52But he just doesn't have a lot of backfield competition, right?
16:55Other than Josh Allen, he doesn't have another back that's taking anything away.
16:58But I do want to say on that note, Ty Johnson would be the guy that would get more involved in the receiving game.
17:05And Ty Johnson's been dealing with a hamstring injury.
17:07He hasn't played this year. Last week was limited in practice all week.
17:11Let's monitor that one because I do think if he gets back out there, that's another reason that I think we would
17:16be worried about Cook because we haven't seen this thing that we talked about all summer and that we heard the beat
17:22writers talk about where his role in the passing game might evolve and he might get more work.
17:27There hasn't really come to fruition yet. And if Ty Johnson gets back healthy, he might actually eat into that a little bit as well.
17:34So that's one thing where Cook's value. He's had some big games.
17:37He'll continue to have some big games. But if he wants to be in that next level above, he would need to
17:43have that role in the receiving game. And we just haven't really seen it yet, guys.
17:47The same exact targets per route in this year as the last two years, like nothing's changed.
17:52And I don't know why they would change that up.
17:54You add DJ Moore and Don Kincaid's breaking out.
17:57I don't know why you would throw the ball to James Cook.
18:00They're projected for almost 29 points. The Chargers have been a complete joke.
18:03And they're at home here. And like James Cook's going to go crazy.
18:07I think that the Chargers like held the Gentie at the goal line this last week.
18:11But there were still some opportunities for Gentie in the passing with some of those drop passes to get going there.
18:17And I just don't think the Chargers like that skilled on defense, just looking up and down the roster.
18:22Yeah, they're running back 12 in points per game so far.
18:25James Cook is, but he's coming off a 20.4 point week.
18:28And that was on 22 touches. So I think like that week one is still kind of anchoring him from that department.
18:34And it'll just only continue to rise there until the top 10 back.
18:37Who would have thought you guys talking up the Bills player and me trying to talk down the Bills player?
18:43Shocking. We're just trying to get you to rank him above Ashton Gentry this week.
18:47I think that's what we're doing. Yes. Okay. Jonathan Taylor is up next.
18:50Fantastic player. And on paper, a difficult matchup against the Houston Texans.
18:53Boone, you are two spots below consensus here. He's running back six for them.
18:57And he's running back eight for you. Still A tier or B tier?
19:00Still A tier. I made a few mistakes in that expert league when it came to the middle rounds.
19:06I don't regret the bold call to take Jonathan Taylor at 103, though.
19:09He's playing really well. He's right up there with the top guys at the position, right?
19:13There's four backs that are averaging over 25 fantasy points per game.
19:17He's one of them. And the next closest guy after that is DeAndre Swift at 21.
19:21So there's a big difference so far between having one of those four versus having any other backs here.
19:26You know, he's been outstanding. And, you know, he's done it against the Ravens, against the Chiefs.
19:30So two pretty tough defenses. Now he gets the Texans, another very tough matchup.
19:34So the matchup is a bit of the tiebreaker here.
19:37I'm maybe leaning on that a little too much.
19:39But that's why I have him bumped down below the two guys in front of him here.
19:44Colts are also underdogs. Now we don't have Alec Kearse.
19:46We don't have that threat to kind of pull defenses away.
19:49I'm starting to get worried that defenses are going to come down and start to crowd and be a little bit more of a problem for him.
19:57But he's so good. He can still break off these runs.
20:00He can still have a big game, which is why, in my mind, he still belongs in this A tier.
20:05Texas have a couple issues that defensive tackle and their edge depth.
20:08Like Jadavion Clowney has been missing some time, too.
20:11So I think the matchup is definitely difficult. It's maybe not as difficult as you'd possibly think heading into this season.
20:16I think the Colts have played very good football.
20:19They're ninth in scoring, even with those two difficult matchups to open the year.
20:22Taylor had 86 rushing yards plus 36 receiving yards in week 13 against Houston.
20:26Last year, that was when Daniel Jones was completely limping around off a broken leg.
20:30And then I'm just throwing out the backup quarterback game in week 18.
20:34So I think he's just too good. I think Shane Sykin's too good.
20:37And I think they're catching the Texans defense, I think, at the right time.
20:41And unlike the James Cook situation, this is actually a spot where there was talk in the offseason that Taylor would get
20:47maybe more work in the passing game. And that's actually coming to fruition, right?
20:50Seven catches for 63 yards as a pass catcher so far.
20:53So that would put him on pace for almost 60 catches.
20:56That would be a career high for him. So hopefully that can keep up for my fantasy teams that have him and
21:02for everybody else out there the drafting. And my other thought is once they get to the red zone, he is such
21:08a pivotal player for them, especially inside the 10 yard line.
21:11Like their wide receiver one is Josh Downs now, you know, I don't think of Josh Downs as this go-to player in
21:17the tight field, you know, Tyler Warren has gotten there on touchdowns so far.
21:21We'll see if that continues or if that, you know, kind of progresses back to what it ordinarily is.
21:26So I think some JT stuff inside the 20, inside the 10 is on the way even more.
21:30Okay. Let's talk about Chase Brown as you're running back nine.
21:33Boom, just quickly at the Pittsburgh Steelers, one word answer, A tier or B tier?
21:37We're B tier. We are dropping down to the B tier, even though I'm pretty hopeful for him this week.
21:43You know, the Steelers have been hit pretty hard in the ground.
21:46They're giving up the seventh most fantasy points to running backs this year.
21:49Brown went off against them last year, at least 100 scrimmage yards in both games.
21:54I think there's potentially a situation where you might be able to buy a little bit low on him.
21:59So my GP Ryan is really a concern. I think this is a player that last year showed he had like a
22:04top five ceiling, has a role in the passing game, can really do it all.
22:08So I think bigger days are ahead and I think it could start this week.
22:1211 targets through two games. I really like Brown.
22:15I liked him before the season. Maybe that's carrying over a little bit here, but I think he's going to get some
22:21better matchups and I think we're going to see some exciting fantasy days from him.
22:25Hayden, stats versus film. We talked about some bylaws.
22:27I should have thrown in Chase Brown's name. I mean, he's running back 18 right now under 17 points in both games.
22:33But I think you can really say that because they face the Bucks run defense and then the Texans defense, you know,
22:39and now he's about to get the Steelers who have allowed backfields to score 23rd in yards per carry.
22:44And they've allowed a first down or touchdown on 28% of those runs, which is 28th across the league.
22:49So this is, I think, a nice bounce back spot for Chase.
22:52Every week I write words, hoping that you guys are going to read these words.
22:56And my first sentence for Chase Brown is Brown is an excellent bylaw.
23:00My RB9 as well. The usage is still there.
23:02RB5 usage. They're doing more under center stuff, which I think their theory of that is to get more explosives from Chase Brown.
23:08I think eventually we will get that. I still think their offensive lines may be a little bit underrated at this point.
23:14So I like the aggressive ranking from Boone here.
23:17I totally agree with it. And I do think that he's one of the best by lows of the week.
23:22Okay. Brees Hall is up next. This is at the Detroit Lions.
23:25He still does own 62% of the red zone carries 50% of the carries inside the 10 yard line and Detroit.
23:31I look this up. Boone is allowing a league high 2.7 yards before contact per attempt.
23:35Now they face some good offenses so far. They also rank dead last and explosive rush rate allowed at 18.2%.
23:40So maybe just maybe we get like the vintage Brees Hall explosives, especially with this offensive line.
23:45He gets to run behind. Yeah, we saw Travis H and Kendra Miller pair up to have over a hundred scrimmage yards
23:51against some James Cook, obviously 139 yards last week.
23:53And really guys, and I'm curious to get your take on this one.
23:57Does Brees Hall just not like look good this year?
23:59He finally looks healthy. Yeah, we've dealt with years where he was injured or the offense was just a complete disaster.
24:05We're getting a little something from the offense this year.
24:08There's some reasons to be excited. And he looks really good in my opinion.
24:12So he's somebody that I've actually been trying to trade for in some leagues, hoping that other managers maybe don't realize just
24:17how good he looks and the potential that he has behind that line.
24:21And in a Jets offense, that could be a little better than people expected.
24:25You caught that ball in the flats on the screen.
24:27Just like he looked awesome to be there. So that was I agree at that point.
24:32And the other point is they're projected for 20.5 points on the road against like a team that's competing for a Super Bowl in the Lions.
24:39Like there's competency in New York for the first time in his entire career.
24:42And I think that this is the healthiest he's looked since that injury on top of that.
24:47He's going to lose some work to Braylon Allen, but that's also just because they're using their running backs entirely so much.
24:53He's still averaging 19 carries, three and a half receptions.
24:55And there's going to be some weeks when if they are trailing, which I think the Lions are just going to pretty
25:01much like not punt against the Jets defense the entire game where he's going to finish with six, seven, eight catches in a game.
25:08I think that this could be one of them.
25:10So I really like Brees Hall here. But yeah, through two weeks, six most touches behind like all the big names that you would expect.
25:17So he's right there in terms of volume. Hayden, we'll talk about this on the wide receiver show on Friday.
25:22But are you at all surprised that the Jets are only projected for 20 and a half points here?
25:27Yeah, I think let's play a game environment where I would just be looking at the higher on both teams, you know?
25:33Yeah, you know, 27 versus 20 and a half.
25:35Like I'm not saying the Jets are going to pull off this upset, but like I can see this being, you know, 35 to 24.
25:42Yep. Like that a lot. Okay, next up, Boone.
25:45How does it feel to be two spots ahead of consensus on an LA Charger?
25:49Yes. Amar in Hampton is your running back 11.
25:51He's running back 13 in consensus rankings. This is at the Buffalo Bills.
25:54The Chargers are the most disappointing team in the league.
25:57And I would say Amar in Hampton's fantasy stats and production are kind of showing you one side of positivity.
26:03And when you actually watch him and look at some of the underlying metrics, a lot of that is negative.
26:08It's like the opposite of the breeze hall thing, right?
26:11Or like you feel really excited about how hall looks.
26:13I think we had a lot of optimism for Hampton and yet it doesn't look great.
26:17All the things we were hoping for from this offense and Mike McDaniel, it has not come to play yet.
26:23Hopefully over time. Like we have to give some of these teams a little bit of time to get comfortable with these new schemes and stuff.
26:30But I think we thought we'd get a lot better out of the gate in some good matchups here.
26:35The Bills defense, I mean, still a work in progress.
26:38They've given up at least 20 fantasy points to a single running back in each game so far.
26:42I don't know if Hampton's going to be that guy, but there's things you hate, right?
26:47You hate that he's fumbled in both games. You hate the overall just approach of this offense.
26:51And yet who's coming for his touches like Keaton Mitchell is just that part-time change of pace kind of guy.
26:57He's not a volume player. Kamani Vidal is not even really getting touches in this backfield.
27:01So it's still going to be Hampton. He's going to get the work.
27:04It's just, yeah, it's more of a volume play and a bet on a hope that this offense is just going to
27:10start to figure things out as we go. I'm totally fine buying low on Omar and Hampton.
27:15Like once we start pricing pricing in like that, he's not like an elite running back and that the Chargers are not going to be an elite offense.
27:22Like he's going to be too involved in this offense to like completely tank.
27:26Now, I don't think that he would be drafting him 16th overall.
27:29I never really was, but he's still the RB nine in carries.
27:32I think that he is going to catch way more passes than he has in the first couple of weeks.
27:38I do think that's what he can do. And there will be times where he's going to be able to hit the corner and rip off big explosives.
27:45I'm with Justin. Like there's, there's not many other options, but to keep giving the ball to Omar and Hampton.
27:51I think eventually he's too explosive that there, that there will be big plays at the same time.
27:55They are projected for the 17th most points. And if people were expecting the Chargers to be top five, that level of
28:01production is just like not going to turn the corner with the schedule.
28:05But I think at a certain point you can only fade on Ryan Hampton so much.
28:09So I actually, I'm with Justin here. I don't love Hampton, but I'm, I'm ahead of consensus as well.
28:14I really hope one of these weeks they just remove the magnets from his shoulder pads that go directly to the defenders.
28:20That would be nice. Okay. Saquon Barkley is up next for you.
28:23This is at the Chicago bears. Look, it's been bad in terms of run blocking.
28:27I will say this. The left side of the bears defense is allowing far more successful runs than their right side is.
28:33Unfortunately, that left side for the Eagles is a center that has turned into left guard and a center spot, which changed up for Philly.
28:40But if we are going to get a good game here from Saquon Barkley, it can happen this week.
28:45The bears are allowing two yards before contact per attempt.
28:48Second worst in the NFL. And Saquon is still fifth in rushing yards expectation per attempt over the minimal touches he's had so far, Boone.
28:54So maybe I'm just coping, but I just want to share those stats before you get going here.
28:59Yeah. I liked your little Saquon Barkley state of the union there.
29:02I thought it was important. I think people were waiting for that with him there.
29:06I mean, there's obviously the huge asterisk with the injury as well.
29:09Like I haven't seen an injury update. We're recording this on Wednesday afternoon.
29:13Not sure where he stands after having the stinger.
29:15He was going for an MRI. We'll see if he's available to play this week.
29:19They kind of made it sound like he was going to be okay.
29:23But I was also recommending that everybody go pick up tank Bigsby if he wasn't already rostered in your league.
29:28So hopefully people did that. Also like a little bit deeper down.
29:31If you're in one of these like super sickle leagues, like I know we are, will Shipley got a bunch of work
29:37and a bunch of snaps up there as well.
29:40So he could be somebody that you might want to stash just in case.
29:43But it would be tanked Bigsby. He got more touches.
29:46He's the guy to roster. If Barkley was going to miss time, he'd be a high end RB three kind of play.
29:52Shipley would just be like a risky flex here.
29:54You look at the matchup. I mean, they're giving up the ninth most fantasy points to running backs.
29:59They just let Aaron Jones hit them up for 105 yards.
30:02Like I think Barkley would be okay in this one if he's out there as long as he's healthy and as long
30:08as they're not limiting his touches and trying to get the other guys involved or anything like that.
30:13I feel like stinger. It's like either you're playing or you're totally fine or you're not playing.
30:17So I think that if he's out there, this is probably going to be the range.
30:22I'll have him in Chicago six most rushing yards allowed in 2025 and Chuba Hubbard him for almost 24 half PPR points in week one.
30:28You mentioned 100 plus yards for Aaron Jones. So I think they're going to win this game pretty easily because, you know,
30:34we're talking about a third string running back and Josh, like you said in stats versus film, like they're going to be
30:40committed to trying to fix this run game. I'm not sure if we're like, it's ever going to get back to the 2024 numbers.
30:47So from 2025 to week one of this, this year, he's the RB 17 on RB six usage.
30:51Like, can we make that RB nine? Like instead of RB 17, I think like that's the goal.
30:56I'm not expecting top five running back numbers from them at this point.
31:00Eagles are still going to try to run the football though.
31:03And I'll say this, uh, this bears team might really struggle if case Keenum is the starter and that could maybe give
31:08the Eagles some short fields here, which is always in favor of the offense.
31:12And I will add on the, you know, Shipley tank Bixby split that we saw last week when Saquon went out, you
31:18know, the Eagles were trailing from behind and almost all that game.
31:21And so we're expecting them to lead this one.
31:24I would really lean into tank Bixby. If Saquon does miss this one for the positive game script Ness, um, of it all.
31:30All right. These are your standard ground picks presented by DraftKings sports.
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31:36And Boone this week, his name is Chuba Hubbard.
31:39This is back-to-back weeks with Chuba Hubbard being the stand your ground picks.
31:42This is at the Cleveland Browns because Boone, you have him as running back 13 and he's running back 19 in consensus rankings.
31:48Well, I mentioned earlier some mistakes that I made in the middle rounds of our expert draft.
31:53I'm looking at it right now because I wanted to make sure that I knew exactly where Hubbard ended up.
31:58I thought I knew who took him, but I needed to make exactly sure.
32:02And of course it was Hayden. My huge mistake there was that I preached all summer long, fill out your lineup, then go get your quarterback.
32:09And yet I got enticed in the seventh round.
32:11I went and got Jalen Hurts. I didn't go get Chuba Hubbard, who I knew at least early in the season, the
32:17play was going to be that he was going to be the starter.
32:21You were going to get that work from him.
32:23And then maybe Jonathan Brooks would come on along the way and then you'd have to figure it out and find someone else for that spot.
32:30But that would have made perfect sense for my team.
32:33And yet I didn't listen to my own advice.
32:35I went with quarterback. Hayden gets Chuba Hubbard, which looks like what?
32:38The best fantasy pick right now at the moment.
32:41Like this guy with now Jonathan Brooks out. Of course, we didn't know that was going to happen.
32:46But Jonathan Brooks out for six to eight weeks here.
32:48Now this is Chuba Hubbard's backfield. Man, he's going to be a top 15 fantasy back most weeks moving forward, right?
32:54Like he is going to be a great fantasy play.
32:57Hayden nailed it. It's awesome. They have no one else in that backfield.
33:00AJ Dillon might get some touches. Austin Eckler went in there for a visit today.
33:04He's 31 and coming off a torn Achilles. Not sure what he has left in the tank.
33:09So Chuba Hubbard, this is back to two years ago, back to 2024 when he was the RB 12 and fantasy points per game.
33:15He's the man. He's a great play. And even though he's not getting like massive volume, I think he's just been around
33:21like 14, 15 touches here in these games. He's still getting so much work.
33:25The scoring opportunities, this offense looking better than it has.
33:27Hayden, congratulations, man. It was a great pick by you.
33:30Yeah, good, good run out for him. But he's also RB one in success rate.
33:34Like he's playing good football on top of it.
33:36The offensive line is a little bit better than maybe we were expecting.
33:40And I think the big thing is he was already the RB 12 on RB seven usage just two years ago.
33:45And that's exactly what he looks like right now.
33:48So the team is projected to win against the Browns on the road here.
33:52I consensus is like very clearly wrong here. Like I think that you can even make an argument that he can be higher than this.
33:58I have not RB 13 right now, but like I feel excellent about that.
34:02Yeah. And I think part of his touches were that they were leading so much into the fourth quarter last week that he didn't really have to play.
34:10Um, and I mean, he's played 75% of the snaps inside the 10 yard line with all six backfield touches in that area of the field so far.
34:17And Cleveland right now has opened the year allowing five yards per carry to running backs, which is 27th in the league
34:23with to your point success rate 28th in success rate, uh, and really bad after contact.
34:27So yeah, Chuba Hubbard have a week. Let's go next up.
34:30Kyron Williams continuing on this tier. This is at the Denver Broncos.
34:33So quite a bit of a change versus the giants defense to the Broncos defense.
34:37And that lands. Kyron is running back 14 for you.
34:40People have been running on the Broncos defense this year a little bit.
34:44And this is another guy where he's not getting these massive workloads.
34:47That's kind of never really been his story, right?
34:49He's getting there because he scores touchdowns in this offense because he's pretty efficient out there.
34:53A 14 touches each week, still finished as RB 16 and RB eight.
34:57That's just the story with Kyron, right? The last three years, he's been a low end RB one in fantasy points per game.
35:03He just gets there. Even though Blake Corum has now become like a very viable RB three type for fantasy.
35:08Kyron is still that RB two play and a guy that I think you can feel good about having in your lineup.
35:14And I don't really see maybe other people think that Corum is going to take over more work as we go here,
35:20but I don't think this is going to change.
35:23I think this is how they want the backfield to be with Kyron as that main guy with Corum working in a
35:28whole bunch, both backs kind of helping lead the way right now.
35:32We'll see if Pukenokua plays this week, but regardless, you can have both these guys in your fantasy lineup.
35:37He's the RB nine and RB 14 usage since week 10 of last year.
35:40That's when Blake Corum was like officially mixing in that includes the playoff games during that stretch.
35:45The Rams were averaging 30 points per game this week.
35:48They're projected for 24 points. So that's you're taking a touchdown off the board.
35:51That does not mean it has to come from Kyron Williams individually.
35:55So I moved him down from like that split and I feel okay with that.
35:59Kenneth Walker got the Broncos. I do wonder if like that was a Kenneth Walker thing.
36:03And then like everyone else will be like, you know, kind of swallowed up by the Denver Broncos defense.
36:08They did lose John Franklin Myers, a defensive tackle.
36:10They are missing one of their edge rushers. Uh, so they're not going to be a top five unit against running backs,
36:16but you know, I think that Kenneth Walker week one split will be like the outlier.
36:21I liked your point at the start here, Hayden, because I'm a Kyron guy, but this environment where they're expected to win,
36:26but the point total is probably low based on the opposition probably means that Kyron stays out of the end zone for the first time this season.
36:34You know, in, in week one, uh, they were trailing.
36:36So he played a lot. And then in week two, they scored a boatload of points at 28 plus.
36:41Uh, and so here, if their total and the team and this, the game total stays this low, then I do wonder
36:47if, uh, if he does get in or if he doesn't, and that could be a big change for him.
36:53All right. Devon H and we're going to keep it going in this tier is your running back 15.
36:58This is versus the Kansas city chiefs. You are three spots above, excuse me, below Hayden on this one who has them as the running back 12.
37:05So, uh, Boone, you go first. Actually, let me do this.
37:08Hayden, give me the optimistic pitch on Devon H and this week against the chiefs.
37:12I love it. Targets per game, five and a half from 2024 to 2025, 5.2.
37:16Nothing's really changed. They're getting the same amount of screens.
37:19I'm still seeing him catch swing passes in the offense.
37:21I watched the ground game. He's got 15 and a half carries this, this year, uh, from 2024, 2025, 13.4.
37:27Nothing structurally has changed for Devon H in terms of how he's getting his touches, how many touches he's getting that actually that number is up.
37:34He's still the RB eight in usage. The dolphins have to play better.
37:37I know that's what everyone's saying. The dolphins aren't going to play better.
37:41It's like totally understand that, but we have not seen the explosive from Devon H and that is coming.
37:46They're not like changing the offense. This is still the Devon H and focused offense.
37:50Don't love the matchup. The chiefs, uh, give, you know, inexperienced play callers a ton of trouble.
37:54And that's exactly what this is. Um, but I, I don't think that, you know, the coaching staff has like forgotten how
38:00to use Devon H and like they're using him in all the exact ways that we'd want to the live betting markets
38:06have them predict for 90 and a half total yards here.
38:09Uh, will he score a touchdown? I'm not sure, but they don't have anyone else to get the ball to right now,
38:15especially with Caleb Douglas, uh, and Jalen, right. That both of those guys picked up injuries.
38:19So it's a volume based play, but at some point, Devon H is going to look like Devon H.
38:24Yeah. Last week, 26 touches, 93 yards. That's the story you got to tell yourself, right?
38:28Hasn't found the end zone yet. The matchup is a huge part of it here for me.
38:33Hayden. Like, I just don't think the chiefs are the defense where he's going to get over on them.
38:38And to be honest, like the schedule is not softening up after this.
38:42It's the Vikings after this. It's the Bengals who are much better with Dexter Lawrence now against the run.
38:47So I'm very worried about H and I haven't had an opportunity to do the panic meter shows with Harmon on Mondays
38:53for the first couple of weeks here for obvious reasons.
38:55I'm going to be back on there and I'm going to push to talk about H and because I'm just very, very worried about him.
39:02I thought there was a path for him to still come through, man.
39:05I'm worried about this dolphins offense as a whole.
39:08And I think it's going to bring him down this year.
39:11So we'll see some games where volume wise, he like gets there just enough, but we're not going to see as many touchdowns.
39:17And it's unfortunate because he's a really talented player.
39:19Yeah. Second lowest team total this week. I, Hey, and I agree with you that like the usage is very similar.
39:25I'm just worried that it's Bobby Sloick doing the usage and not Mike McDaniel in Miami with the usage.
39:30Um, but we'll see. I mean, he's still an awesome superstar that has been unable to show that.
39:35I think that superstardom this year, he's running back 24 in points per game to open the season, but that's just two games.
39:41Okay. Next is Javante Williams, uh, volume, volume, volume.
39:43He's running back 12 though. And consensus rankings, boon, he's your running back 16.
39:47He owns 66% of this team's red zone runs.
39:49So why are you lower than consensus against the Ravens?
39:52I feel like I haven't really loved what I've seen from him so far.
39:56Obviously it's been a weird kind of couple of games for them.
39:59Um, you know, you thought you'd get a lot more of the running game last week at the way that game went,
40:05but they did it through the air. Maybe the rushing attack will come along here.
40:09Maybe the injuries in the offensive line are a bit of a problem.
40:12I know yards per carry could be like a really misleading stat, obviously, especially on small sample sizes.
40:17But like last year he was averaging almost five yards per carry this year under three yards per carry.
40:22It's almost two full yards difference that could change again.
40:25This is only two games, but I just haven't really loved what I've seen from him.
40:29So he's another one of these guys that I think belongs in this range because he's just a volume play.
40:35It's a better offense. And like I said, you'd hope with the passing attack, really finding its stride last week that the rushing attack will eventually as well.
40:42Um, but yeah, I, I haven't really loved what I've seen from Javante so far and, uh, just a little bit worried
40:48about him, but he has no competition. So volume wise, he should be okay.
40:52Volume's going to be there. RB five and expected points since 2025.
40:55He's RB 10 and expected points this year. Uh, not having Tyler Smith, I do think is a big deal.
41:00He's on injured reserve. They're left guard. One of the best in the league.
41:04And then the, the Ravens, uh, since week 10 of last year, Ravens have allowed 66 rushing yards per game to running backs.
41:10That's the second fewest. I think it's just like a combination of, you know, the trenches plus game script, uh, that type
41:16of thing where I have Javante Williams in a very similar spot.
41:19Yeah. It is one of those things where how low can you rank a guy who completely owns the backfield and they're
41:25also at home and they're still projected for 24 and a half, but you know, it might be kind of negative game
41:31script from them because they are a three and a half point underdogs here.
41:35All right. Hyper speed a little bit more, uh, Deandre Swift, Boone, I'm going to put them in, in B tier here
41:41and we're going to keep it moving because Deandre Swift is freaking awesome.
41:44It's a revenge game here for Deandre Swift against the Philadelphia Eagles.
41:47He is scoring as one of the best backs in fancy football as the running back five.
41:52That would be tough to continue against Philly. Uh, and especially in this game script, but I do wonder if, you know,
41:58maybe Ben Johnson understands that our pathway to winning is to go and flow through this rushing attack as much as possible.
42:04Yeah, they have to, we hit on the, the case Keenum thing earlier that if he's out there, we're basically bringing down
42:10everybody in this offense from a fantasy perspective, but they're going to have to lean on the running game massively in this one.
42:16And it's another situation where Swift can do it.
42:18We know he can do it. And I do, I will admit to everybody out there.
42:22There is a revenge game, little bump that I give in my projections.
42:26So he does get that little bump this week.
42:28It's tough because you're trying to offset that against the quarterback situation.
42:32But again, that's another one we have to monitor all week to see if Tyson Bajig and clear concussion protocol or what
42:37kind of state Caleb Williams hamstring is in. Regardless if it's Keenum, that's going to bring down the whole offense, but Swift
42:43can still get there to this point. He normally like rest of season rankings.
42:47I have them as basically a borderline low end RB one, high end RB two.
42:51So this is much lower than where I project him for the rest of the year.
42:55I got DeAndre Swift buried in my rankings, like RB 25.
42:58There's been six games since 2025 where the bears have finished with 21 or fewer points.
43:03He's averaged 10 and 10.8 half PPR points. And then that's like the RB 23.
43:07The reality is to project for 18 and a half points against Vic Fangio and he gets every other drive.
43:12So I don't think they're going to give him the ball like that much more.
43:16It's like still a drive by drive rotation and they're going to be a negative game script here.
43:21And I just, I just don't trust a third stringer against Fangio.
43:24Boone, I assumed B tier. Do you want to move it to C tier then for DeAndre Swift instead?
43:29No, we're, we're still going with B tier here.
43:31Yep. All right. Bucky last name in the beach here.
43:34Yes. He's still in the beach here. No, he's not the last name in the beach here, but we are rolling with him in the beach here.
43:41Bucky's been great. This is one I was totally wrong on before the season.
43:45I thought Kenneth Gainwell would step into that Rashad white kind of role.
43:49I thought he would limit Bucky. He's not at all.
43:51Bucky is out there. Absolutely crushing it. 61% of the snaps, 79% of the snaps, 183 yards and a touchdown through two games.
43:57He's even getting like the two minute drill work.
44:00He's getting goal line work. There's really nothing stopping him right now.
44:03So he belongs in this spot. It's just a tough matchup against the Vikings and Brian Flores defense.
44:08So that's the only thing that has him a little bit lower than he normally would be.
44:12Yeah. I think the Vikings defense is like an absolute problem.
44:15Last four games for the Vikings, they've allowed 11.4 happy bear points to the entire room.
44:20Obviously, Bucky's going to get a lot of that.
44:22But I think that's pretty worrisome, especially how Baker's been handling pressure.
44:25So I agree with the team total being low here.
44:28Film wise on Bucky, he's got a great first step right now.
44:31Every single time he hits that second level, he's like one of the slowest running backs in the NFL to me.
44:37I haven't loved that. I will say that the first step and that's the most important part is like hitting that lateral
44:43step to get to the next level. There was a couple times last week where I was like, oh no, like that's
44:49that didn't have my attention like it had in previous years.
44:51Interesting. I wish we had talked about it more in stats for this film.
44:55I've liked what I've seen from Bucky to avoid some instant disruption or find some extra lanes.
45:00But yeah, in terms of like the real explosives and the game changing moments, he certainly hasn't had that.
45:05And he's only owned 37% of the carries for the Bucks inside the red zone so far.
45:09So that kind of needs to hike up. Boom.
45:12We only have one more spot in the B tier.
45:14I'm sorry to tell you. It's all right. We will give it to Aaron Jones.
45:18We will give it to Aaron Jones, but this is another one of those ones.
45:22I made a mention of it at the beginning that we're getting injury updates as we go.
45:27We knew last week he left the game at one point, slammed his helmet down.
45:31We thought maybe he was going to be out.
45:33He managed to finish the game. Had a great one.
45:36105 yards on 23 carries. Obviously, they're saying he's dealing with some soreness, but I was still a little bit worried of
45:42the way that Kevin O'Connell was talking about that, that he still has a chance to play this week.
45:47There's some weird wording that he said right before we started.
45:50I don't have the quote in front of me.
45:52So that was the only reason that I'm just a little bit concerned about Jones.
45:56We'll put a little asterisk next to him. But this is a spot where they need him to be the guy.
46:02They don't really have faith in Daman Claiborne. DJ Dallas is a special teamer.
46:06So yeah, as long as he's out there, he's going to be a very strong RB2 play.
46:10They have no other choice. So I'm assuming that he's going to play.
46:14If he's not, then I'll figure out who they're going to use.
46:17But it's I don't know who the hell they have.
46:20No one. They have nobody. I mean, Clayborne is a small player who is bad in pass protection and also quite poor as a receiver.
46:26And then DJ Dallas is, you know, kind of a retread one of these players.
46:30Hayden, the quote that Boone is talking about is from KOC.
46:33We'll just keep getting treatment around the clock and see if we can pick up his workload as the week goes on.
46:39There's also another one that he feels pretty good.
46:42You know, is this like not, you know, 31 year old not practicing early on?
46:46Like, that's my read. And obviously, if we're wrong, we'll just update the rankings.
46:49On Aaron Jones, though, he played 90% of the snaps heading into halftime.
46:53Then he missed a couple of snaps. But then he got right back in there.
46:57And then since 2024, without Jordan Mason, he's the RB20 and RB13 usage.
47:00The Buccaneers defense is not quite as good as it has been previously.
47:04I know it's like you got to beat Ava and that will be an issue.
47:08But their linebackers have been awful. And I do think there's going to be moments where Aaron Jones can get highlighted in the pass game.
47:15So like if he's out there, I have a very aggressive ranking on Aaron Jones.
47:19Like it's like too big to fail. You know, and hopefully he can just stay healthy for it.
47:23I know we want to move quick here, Josh, but I do want to say one more thing on it.
47:29I think Jordan Mason is potentially somebody to try to go out and buy because Aaron Jones is not going to hold up with these kind of workloads.
47:36And I say that as he's my birthday buddy, man.
47:39We're both December 2nd babies. The dude is going to turn 32 this year.
47:43We've seen him deal with so many injuries. We're seeing him sore after this one game where he gets all the work.
47:49He is not a long term starter at this point.
47:51So I don't even know if he's going to hold up for a whole month.
47:55I think Jordan Mason is somebody that people should be going out to get.
47:59Alec Lewis of the Athletic, he had the stat.
48:01The Vikings have run 53.7 run rate here since December 1st of last season.
48:05They haven't lost since. That's the second highest run rate among all NFL teams behind only the Ravens.
48:10They said they wanted to commit to the rushing attack this year.
48:13They are still doing it. And long term, I think that bodes really well for Mason.
48:17So go out and get him. Okay. Next is Dave Montgomery.
48:20This is at the Indianapolis Colts. Hey, now send this to you.
48:24There's like some numbers in Dave Montgomery's favor, even if the offensive line has, you know, failed to create space outside of even parts of week one.
48:31He still owns 85% of the red zone carries.
48:33So once they get down to the tight space, then he is most likely to score a touchdown for this team on
48:39the ground and who they face this week. The Colts are allowing 5.3 rushing yards per attempt.
48:44The second worst in the NFL. So we've kind of gotten a tale of two weeks here for DeMont and him being running back 20 here.
48:51I think for around for both of you makes it side in one direction.
48:54Yeah. The Colts are a great matchup for him.
48:57They're, they're really struggling at linebacker. I think the Texans offensive lines, like definitely calls into like the joke category in terms
49:03like the, the, the volume at the goal line back in week one, he got stuffed multiple times at the goal lines.
49:08Like that's inflating his percentage share. Like I'm not convinced that he's going to get every goal line carry, like the way they've been doing.
49:15It's like been every other drive goes to Woody Marks.
49:18Like am I convinced that Woody Marks just wouldn't stay on the football field and score a rushing touchdown at that expense?
49:24Like I think this is pretty close to the, you know, Deandre Swift, Kyle, the none guy split, except that the bears offensive lines.
49:30Awesome. And the Texans offensive line stinks. And I also think, you know, straight up Montgomery is worse than Deandre Swift.
49:36So I think he's going to be an RB two because of volumes, the RB 15 and usage, but I don't love what I see here.
49:43Yeah. Touchdowns are really the difference. And that for that reason, I think we keep them in this range, but Woody Marks
49:49is not really in my mind done enough to take the work away from Montgomery.
49:53I think this is another one where it's just going to kind of keep rolling like this unless there's an injury.
49:58Hey, and I'm going to send to you first with Jalen Warren.
50:01This is against the Cincinnati Bengals. So there's a lot of negative stats right now for this Steelers offense at every level.
50:07Pittsburgh has converted 20% of their third downs. That's 31st in the league.
50:11Uh, you know, we have seen the Steelers backfield only has one carry inside the red zone.
50:15And that one actually went to Rico Dattle. Neither one of these players practiced on Wednesday and through two games as Bengals
50:21defense has allowed a league low 78 rushing yards to running backs on 27 attempts, just 2.9 yards per care.
50:27Yeah, they shut down the Texans. And that's not that surprising to me.
50:30I think for Jalen Warren, if Rico Dattle, who's still in a boot on Wednesday and he was on a boot leaving
50:36the game with a toe injury, if he's not going to play like Jalen Warren, it's too big to fail.
50:41He played 50 of 52 snaps without Rico Dattle on the field last week.
50:45They got Travis Homer out there. Like he will get every single touch in this backfield.
50:49If Rico Dattle can't play and the offense has been terrible.
50:52Um, but like if you play every single snap, pretty much like you're going to be an RB2.
50:57Yeah. Don't love the matchup with Dexter Lawrence, but Bucky Irving, seven catches on them.
51:01Woody Marks, who we just talked about five catches on them.
51:04Like Warren will find ways he'll get the volume and yeah, he'll come through.
51:08Talk to me about Cam Scadaboo Boone with Jameis Winston as his quarterback, as he faces the Tennessee Titans.
51:13Man, my guy, Cam Scadaboo, this is a sad one.
51:16Like to see them have all four backs active last week and all four backs doing something like that's not great for Scadaboo to begin with.
51:22And then he loses his buddy Jackson Dart. And we just take this whole offense down a notch here.
51:28So not really feeling as strong about Scadaboo as I felt before the season, Josh.
51:32And yeah, like volume wise, he'll get enough. He's got a chance for touchdowns.
51:35Tennessee's an okay run defense. This is a game they should be competitive, but I'm curious how many games are going to
51:41be competitive the rest of the way. I think that it's a good spot for Scadaboo though.
51:46And I watched Najee Harris. Najee Harris left leg is about half the size of his right leg.
51:51It's true. Like we got to, we got to post that on here.
51:54Like it's, I don't think that Najee Harris is going to do that much this year.
51:58I know you got the goal line carry and it wasn't his fault, but didn't go anywhere.
52:03And then the Tyron Tracy, I think he's going to get cut.
52:06He's like a special teamer. And then Devin Singletary, they at least this last week went away from Devin Singletary when they were in catch up mode.
52:13And that was like what made me nervous in week one for Scadaboo.
52:17But if he's going to catch four passes a game, like that's, that's what we want.
52:21And he's, he's the, he's the entire heartbeat of this operation right now.
52:25So I think they're going to stick with them.
52:27Okay. Basial Tootin is your running back 23 against the New England Patriots.
52:30I'll say Basial Tootin has better film than the running back 23.
52:34Unfortunately, this past defense is quite good. Though the Jaguars are still two and a half point favorites.
52:38Hayden, we've talked a lot about him during stats versus film.
52:41I am a bit nervous about this Jaguars offensive line.
52:44And like, it kind of is a pendulum of, hey, they can look fine against certain opponents and then other ones they
52:50can get pushed and pressed in the back. And I put the Patriots in that good defense.
52:54Good. They have two awesome defensive tackles there. And they just want to like put a lot of resources.
53:00There's a difficult matchup, but Jacksonville's their seventh in projected points.
53:03So, and we at least got Basial Tootin at the goal line for this last game.
53:07So it's not only going to be Chris Rodriguez down there.
53:10So I feel good about them. A little disappointing that he's not being used much in the passing attack.
53:15I think that would be obviously the thing that could unlock him for fantasy.
53:19We haven't seen it yet. Why throw to Tootin when you can throw to Parker Washington?
53:23That's right. That's right. Fair enough. That's true. Okay.
53:25Jeremiah Love is next for you as the running back 24.
53:28We are in like real flex conversation here right now.
53:31This is at the San Francisco 49ers. One of these weeks, I really hope like the usage boon gets directly on track
53:37with what we can say from here on out.
53:39This is what Jeremiah Love is going to be.
53:42He's going to get, you know, 80% of the passing work and add another 10 carries on top of it.
53:47But we're not quite there yet. Yeah. All right.
53:49So Josh commented, I want to flip this one back to you guys and I'm going to lead the witness a little bit here.
53:56I guess I'll give it to you, Hayden, since Josh already talked a little bit about him there.
54:01But this backfill has been like painful so far, right?
54:03Like it's just been rough with Algier playing 59% and 64% of the snaps in the first two games and love being around 40.
54:10I'm with you. I'm with you, Josh. Like, I think this is the spot to buy in.
54:14We see these guys that are early picks in the real NFL draft.
54:18These running backs always end up coming through. I think he's going to get his opportunity.
54:22I just think it has to happen soon, right?
54:24Like we saw Bajon Robinson. I always kind of looked at it like the situation when Bajon was a rookie and he had Algier there, obviously.
54:31And it's not the same. They're not the same player.
54:34And I don't even see him as the same type of prospect.
54:37He's maybe a notch below. But still, at some point, when you use that high draft capital on him, you have to turn this over to the guy.
54:45Are you buying here, Hayden? Are you in on this one?
54:48Because I think, love, we're going to see that breakout.
54:50We're going to see that switch come soon. There's going to be weeks where he doesn't have the role and then all
54:56of a sudden he will have the role and we have to guess when that's going to be.
55:01And I had the same exact thoughts as you guys.
55:04I was coming into this and I was like, they just got smoked by the Seahawks.
55:08They're one on one. They're trying to win this division.
55:11And they got to play their best players to pull off the upset here.
55:14And who's their best players? It's Jeremiah Love, not Tyler Algier.
55:17So I was going to take an optimistic angle on this one.
55:21I'm glad that you guys agree with me. I might have a more optimistic angle in week four and not week three.
55:26I feel like any matchup advantage that Jeremiah Love could bring to an offense is negated by the 49ers defense.
55:32But we'll see. Yes, but I think that if they're going to be losing by 10 points, then I think he's going
55:38to have to catch a lot more passes. Like that would be a step one to this would be could we get
55:44Jeremiah Love catching four or five, six passes in a game?
55:46I think that this would be the first game where I think we can show that off.
55:51And if we're talking about by low, especially this early in the season, I think when fantasy managers see that 49ers matchup,
55:57knowing the 49ers defense has been good for so long, that might be one that adds to their fear and their concern about him.
56:03And maybe they're willing to make that trade. Okay, running back 25 is Quinchon Judkins.
56:07This is against the Carolina Panthers. This is not my show.
56:10But Hayden, I think that this might be the sneaky play of the week.
56:14Okay, he is coming off 12 carries for 21 yards and a win.
56:17But that was obviously against the Bucs defense. He's also been held below 50 yards rushing in eight of his past 12 games.
56:24But again, I want to reiterate that the Carolina rush defense is not the Bucs and it's not the Jags.
56:29They're actually allowing the highest rush yards per attempt at 6.3 right now.
56:32And yes, they have faced DeAndre Swift and Kalman Ungai and especially Bajon Robinson.
56:36But the Browns are only two and a half point dogs.
56:39And certainly it will take Deshaun Watson playing well in this contest.
56:42But I think Quinchon Judkins is talented enough. And I'm still kind of iffy on this Panthers defense that Quinchon Judkins might
56:48be like the shock performer of the week. Yeah, no Dylan Sampson.
56:51He's not going to catch a bunch of passes, but he did have five receptions this last game without Dylan Sampson in clear negative game script.
56:58So that's at least like somewhat encouraging. I saw it the same way.
57:02Like if it's not going to happen here, then it's just not going to happen for quite a while.
57:07And I thought there's enough signs of life between the rest of the skill guys and Deshaun Watson.
57:12So I think that he's a flex start, not like a bench player.
57:15This is it, Josh. We talked in the summer.
57:18I had a bold prediction about Judkins that I thought he had a chance to be a top 15 back.
57:23And I said there was the caveat. The first two games are going to be very tough matchups for him.
57:28This is it. He has to show it this week.
57:31If he doesn't show it this week, then we have to be very worried about his fantasy outlook the rest of the way.
57:37I do think there is a chance that when Deshaun drops back and, you know, the changing coverage that he sees pre
57:43and post snap, then he just throws picks to like JC Horn and Mike Jackson and Devin Lord over the middle and all that stuff.
57:50But if Deshaun Watson plays like turnover free football, then Quinchon should have a nice day.
57:54He should have a nice day. And that's not something I would have said in either of the first two games.
58:00Okay. Jadarian Price is running back 38 in consensus rankings.
58:02He is running back 26 for you. I'm assuming for a lot of consensus rankers that they just assume that he's going to be out.
58:09Boone, we just got word that Price is going to practice all week.
58:13Albeit, he's still going to be determined if he's going to play.
58:16But that's, you know, a positive in his direction versus leaving the game.
58:19Yeah. And that's how they've kind of talked about it, right?
58:22They kind of downplayed the injury and made it seem like it was going to be minor and that he'd have a chance to be out there.
58:29So another one I've mentioned along the way, these ones that we have, these little asterisks next to that we're going to have to monitor throughout the week.
58:37This is another one of those. And this could be an opportunity for him.
58:41I think a game where they are big favorites.
58:43They're going against the Washington team that is just probably floundering at the moment after losing Jaden Daniels.
58:48And what is the rest of their season going to look like?
58:51And when is he going to be back? And I know Marcus Mariota can do that like 60, 70 percent version of what Daniels does in the offense.
58:59But this is still a spot where the Seahawks should roll in this game.
59:02Let's get Price going. So the only worry I would have is that because of the injury, even if he does play,
59:08do they get those other backs even more involved and not give him a big enough workload to come through for fantasy?
59:14Didn't love that in the first half. I mean, Wilson had three goal line attempts there, and that was like before the injury there.
59:20So I still don't love the role, RB32 and usage.
59:23It is just like one of those spots where if they're winning by a lot, then you would have to think that
59:29they're going to get Jadarian Price kind of going.
59:31And I don't think that the Washington offense is going to be able to hang with Seattle.
59:36So, you know, I would still consider this like you don't have to start Jadarian Price, but I think that he's like
59:42a little bit in the mix here. All right.
59:44Let's go back and forth. One speaker for each of these.
59:47Okay. So Boone, you're up first with Tony Pollard as running back 27.
59:51Are we down in D tier or is this still C tier?
59:54We are still C tier. I have a little bit of hope for Pollard.
59:58Now, this is another one where we got an injury update today and both Pollard and Spears are sitting out.
60:03I think it's just soreness they're calling it. So probably not something that's going to keep them out of the game, but
60:09another one that we just kind of keep an eye on.
60:12We'll monitor throughout the week. But this is a spot against the Giants team.
60:16I just talked about it with the commanders, right?
60:18You lose your quarterback. What comes next for you?
60:20Does your team rally or do you fall to pieces?
60:23The Titans actually performed pretty well against the Eagles last week, I thought.
60:27And we saw their backs do okay combined for over 100 yards in that one.
60:31So this is a spot for Pollard where you're going against the Giants.
60:34You should be able to stay competitive in this one.
60:37I think he's got a shot to at least give you that like high end RB three kind of upside.
60:42If he finds the end zone, he becomes an RB two on the week.
60:46All right, Hayden. Travis A. Chan is next as running back 28.
60:49I wish I'd spoke about him more in stats versus film because the film was not kind.
60:54Like they did some pony personnel stuff with Alvin Kamara that Travis A.
60:57Chan was a decoy on almost three straight snaps and then passes were thrown in Alvin Kamara's direction.
61:02And then there were two other pitches, five yards in the backfield that one fell to the ground and another one that was bobbled.
61:08And it was by about a loss of six yards.
61:11So, yeah, he sits here against what should be an awesome matchup as, you know, the Saints favorites by three points.
61:17And yet he's running back 28. Yeah, I just think that the rotation is kind of set in stone until proven otherwise.
61:22Alvin Kamara is getting like every other touch on early downs and then CJ Donaldson is playing the passing situations.
61:28The big caveat is like that could change based off the money at any point.
61:32But I don't love them losing their left tackle Kelvin Banks out for months either.
61:36The only positive is they are still first in neutral pace.
61:39They're projected for 23 points. And Alvin Kamara has been so bad at the goal line for years.
61:44I do think when push comes to shove, he would probably be still most likely to have the goal line touchdown.
61:49That said, tush push to Tyler Shuck at the goal line this last week.
61:53All right, Boone, you get both Patriots running backs in Trevion Henderson and Ramondre Stevenson.
61:57This is against the Jacksonville Jaguars who have a heck of a run defense with just a big, long, beefy dudes up front.
62:03So we saw a flip immediately in week one because of Ramondre's fumble.
62:07And then I thought Trevion did quite well in his debut.
62:09Yeah. And they need that explosiveness that he brings this offense.
62:12When you look at the skill position players they have at the moment, they need somebody that can crack the game open with one play.
62:19He showed last week. He can absolutely do that.
62:22You mentioned, though, the matchup is why these guys are down this low and we can't even push one of them up.
62:27But I still think that even based on what happened last week and Henderson getting all that work, this is not just
62:33all of a sudden a complete change in the script.
62:36I think we're going to still see both backs used quite a bit.
62:39And week to week, that could change based on the game plan.
62:43But this is a great at least start for Henderson potentially becoming that fantasy league winner type and taking over this backfield eventually.
62:49All right. We already talked about Blake Corum. He's the first name here in the D tier.
62:53Hayden, we have not talked about any of these Broncos backs.
62:56Boone has J.K. Dobbins as running back 32. Then Jonah Coleman as running back 34.
63:00Apparently, Jonah Coleman is popped up with an ankle injury that he suffered during the game and is now missing practice because of it.
63:07RJ Harvey is progressing. J.K. Dobbins is expected to practice this week.
63:10So are we just back to this being a three-person backfield along with Tyler Bidet playing some passing down snaps when Harvey misses?
63:16I'm going to keep this simple. J.K. Dobbins had cramps.
63:19Cramps are not going to carry over to this week.
63:21And every single time J.K. Dobbins is out there and available, he runs away with every single touch, including at the goal line.
63:28And I just don't think that's going to change.
63:30I think the problem is they're facing the Rams.
63:32They're expected to lose. They're only projected for 21 and a half points.
63:36J.K. Dobbins doesn't catch passes. But I think the rest of these guys are going to be in their roles.
63:41Like if J.K. Dobbins is healthy, he is going to be the starter and get most of the carries until proven otherwise.
63:47It's like a choose your own adventure book at the moment, though.
63:50But we have no idea how these injuries are going to play out.
63:54We're going to have to follow it all week.
63:56Okay, common on guys next. I mentioned Coleman and Boone.
63:59That sends us to Bill Krosky Merritt as running back 35.
64:02You know, Rashad White played a lot in the first half.
64:05And then when Marcus Mariota came in, we saw a little bit of Bill mixed in there, too.
64:10It's just going to be not a new offense.
64:12But, you know, I actually thought the David Blau stuff looked so much better in week two with Jaden.
64:17And I was hopeful of what it was going to be.
64:20And then bing, bing, boom, injury hits. And, you know, the projections for all these guys drop.
64:25I mean, I'm normally long with my words, but this one's just no thank you.
64:29Against the Seahawks, no chance. You don't want to play either of these guys.
64:32And overall, the bet on this offense was that it was going to be better this year.
64:37Jaden Daniels would stay healthy. We'd see JCM be that explosive guy in the backfield.
64:41Now we completely have to reassess. And this is not the week to play any of them.
64:45Hey, and I wish I'd talked about Caleb Johnson more in the Waver Wire show and then in Stats vs.
64:51Film, because I believe his number of snaps is going to drastically improve here.
64:54I read through Matt LaFleur's press conference, and he said, quote, his 12-yard run in overtime, that got us going a little bit.
65:01You know, Chris Brooks is going to have his role in passing snaps.
65:04But the leap that Caleb Williams has to take to overtake Marshawn Lloyd is maybe just a small step forward.
65:09Yeah, Marshawn Lloyd's already benched after his fumble. There was 22 snaps.
65:13He played one of them. Caleb Johnson got all the carries.
65:16Chris Brooks got all the pass protection stuff. They're expected to beat the Falcons by almost a touchdown on Thursday Night Football.
65:22I think that I would rank Caleb Johnson over a lot of the backs we just mentioned, and I think that he's going to be the starter here.
65:29He's not going to play any of the pass protection stuff.
65:32But Falcons' defense right now, we already knew that they're missing the top two edge rushers.
65:36Now their top corner is out. The rest of their secondary is really weak.
65:40And then also their depth pieces across the defensive line, we don't know if they're going to play or not, but they're
65:46all on the injury report and they're missing time right now.
65:49It's one of the worst defenses in the NFL, and I think that there's going to be a close-the-clock type of game script in favor of him.
65:56Yeah, I think the only counter to that is, I think you could argue that the Packers offensive line might be the
66:02worst in the NFL at this moment, too. Yeah, it's bad on bad.
66:05Yes, bad on bad. But oftentimes, offense wins bad on bad, especially when you're, you know, coached by Matt LaFleur and company.
66:11Okay, Boone, I'm just going to throw up the rest of the names.
66:15It is Woody Marks, Rashad White, Kaylin Black, Marshawn Lloyd, Braylon Allen, and Emmitt Johnson.
66:19Is there anything you want to say about any of those players?
66:22I mean, I kind of mentioned Emmitt Johnson off the top, right?
66:25Like earlier, we talked about Kenneth Walker, that I think he could be a sneaky play this week based on that matchup
66:31with the Dolphins and perhaps that coaching staff not wanting to give Kenneth Walker just all of the work.
66:36Maybe we could get Emmitt Johnson going in that game when they're up big, which they will be.
66:41He's kind of in a similar spot with Kaylin Black.
66:44These guys are like some of the top backups, some of the top one injury away guys, and in good matchups, they could have some flex value.
66:51Josh, I'll add the biggest sleeper to me would be Emmanuel Wilson.
66:54He's the RB24 in usage. Obviously, that includes some of the fourth quarter stuff, but is he not going to get some
67:00fourth quarter stuff against the commanders in this one?
67:02We don't know about the price injury. He's also getting subbed in at the goal line.
67:07I mean, obviously, you don't want to be in this situation, but if you had three injuries, I think that Emmanuel Wilson
67:13touched down or bust, I would understand it. Yep.
67:15Love that shout out. All right. Boone is constantly updating his rankings.
67:18Hayden is doing the exact same thing. Keep in mind, on Sunday, we have our Starts It show for two and a half hours ahead of kickoff.
67:25So if you still have these flex issues and conundrums, that entire episode, along with our Friday wide receiver rankings and tiers, is here to answer those questions.
67:33All right, guys. That does it. Thank you all for watching.
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