0:00The Week 3 Waiver Wire is here. I know, I know, your team didn't score enough points in Week 2.
0:06Joel Smyth and I are here to fix that.
0:08We talked through all of the, you know, surprising usage items, some names that should be available in your league and dive
0:15into some of the repeat offenders over the last couple weeks like, you know, Adnay Mitchell and Dontavian Wicks and if two
0:21games is enough of a sample not just to add them onto your roster but start them in your leagues in the next couple weeks.
0:28Plus the drop list and the deep cuts. Stay tuned for this episode of Yahoo Fantasy Football with Josh and Hayden.
0:34We turn the page to Week 3 for the Week 3 Waiver Wire.
0:38Joel Smith joins me. Oh buddy, we have a lot to discuss because injuries are hitting on almost every single team and
0:44that is leading to some players, I would say surprisingly, getting the football.
0:48First, I want to start with this. Okay, we're not going to talk about Dontayvion Wicks here or Dalton Schultz.
0:54Those guys are 51 and 57% rostered on Yahoo League.
0:57at the moment. So how we do this show is we'll talk about some players under 50% and then under about 20%
1:03in the deep cut section and we'll go through all these positions at running backs, wide receivers, so on and so forth.
1:09So Joel, let's kick things off with the Denver Broncos.
1:12Jonah Coleman, after J.K. Dobbins leaves this game, plays 25 of 62 snaps.
1:16Tyler Bidet, 16 of 62. Pass downs were 6 to 7 in favor of Bidet by one.
1:21Jonah Coleman, I think is a name that we brought up last week, Joel, but anyways, he's rostered in 20.
1:2627% of leagues out there. So what should the people do with their fab dollars?
1:31Yeah, I think it's probably one that went down the past couple of weeks just because probably drafted more than 27%, but
1:37did didn't play in week one, but now a huge role here.
1:40I'm not blowing up my fab for Coleman because Dobbins is probably gonna be back next week.
1:45Harvey, probably more short-term injury, but I still would spend a decent bit and think he is a great ad just because
1:52like this is why you drafted him because Dobbins has the extreme injury risk and Harvey's a little more uncertain.
1:57So the split here between Bidet and him, it was almost all Coleman in terms of what matters.
2:02This is a tough one for me because I can't remember what show it was with you, Joel.
2:08I mean, I record so many, I record multiple with you, but there was a moment where he was one of the
2:14players that I wish we had talked about more last week in that if someone drops him, then sometimes some of the
2:20best additions are when the players who get dropped in week one kind of fall through the cracks there.
2:26However, I'm not sure if any of these Broncos running backs are going to have like true fantasy season changing value unless
2:32two of them get injured and only one is left.
2:35And by that, I mean, that's what worked with RJ Harvey last year, right?
2:39Where he got the carries between the twenties. He got the cool manufactured stuff, you know, inside the 20 yard line that Sean Payton loves to do.
2:47And then he also got the passing down work.
2:49Now that we have three names in this backfield, Joel, that is incredibly difficult.
2:53So like, let's say RJ Harvey is shelved for a little bit, but JK Dobbins does return.
2:58And by the way, apparently he's quote unquote good from this injury that he left the game with, then he's going to get the carries between the twenties.
3:06We're not exactly sure what's going to work between the 10 and the five yard line and the goal line.
3:12And then yes, Jonah Coleman would then operate in passing situations and maybe get some of the cool red zone stuff.
3:18And then we flip that. Like what if Dobbins then misses time, which we expect him to do at some point this
3:24year, then RJ Harvey gets the cool manufactured stuff in the red zone, gets all the passing down work.
3:30And then Jonah Coleman is kind of stuck with this inside the twenties grinder and maybe some short yardage situation.
3:35So to me, I'm not sure if we're ever going to get one of those moments that we got last year in
3:42like a six, eight game stretch where RJ Harvey had the entire backfield to himself.
3:46Yeah, I get that. I think the other side of it, a couple of points would just be with Coleman a little
3:52bit more of the in-between than Dobbins is never going to catch the ball.
3:56Harvey wasn't the greatest. And the big thing for me is because the scene of Denver or the running backs is so good.
4:03Harvey last year wasn't the greatest NFL running back as we've talked about, but as a starter, he was the RB nine.
4:09So I don't think Coleman will get to the RB nine, your fantasy playoffs.
4:13But I think if he is getting 50% of the work, but still like has like maybe the Dobbins role, but with
4:20a little bit more receiving prowess, then you can be like, Oh, you can play him in your flex and see if he takes over Harvey.
4:27See if they go down to injury. See what happens there.
4:30We has a little bit of value, not RJ Harvey in fantasy playoffs, but value.
4:35I think that's a really good point. And look, everyone last year was talking about how JK Dobbins was on a career
4:41pace, you know, and was going to be the first running back.
4:44And by the way, this is one of my craziest stats out there.
4:48The no running back under Sean Payton has ever hit 250 carries in a season in his entire career coaching in the NFL.
4:55JK Dobbins was on pace to do that. And yet with all that baked in, I think he was still on pace
5:01to be like the running back 23 in points.
5:04Yeah, you know, so you have to have a little bit more than just the JK Dobbins role and you outlining potentially that here.
5:10Pajona Coleman is notable. I also thought it was notable that barely playing or not playing a single snap in week one,
5:17then he was the trusted player to be on the field, to grind it out in the final four minutes to basically win the game.
5:24He slid inbounds on that 12 yard carry on seven and 11.
5:27I mean, that that's the stuff that gets you in the good graces.
5:31And you know, the difference in that offense that we saw in week one against, you know, the chiefs versus week two against the Jaguars was notable.
5:39But this is something that we talked about last week, too, that if they have some stumbling blocks, the one change that
5:45they can make, it's not a wide receiver, it's not a tight end, it's to get Jonah Coleman, maybe a little bit more involved than as a spark.
5:53So I don't know if I have some running back issues, Joel would like 30, 35% of the fab dollars make sense here?
6:00I think so. Yeah, yeah, I would say 30 35%, especially yeah, with those running back issues.
6:05Or if you're just having if you have Dobbins, if you need more insurance on term, I think the second half of
6:11the season is where we can like look back on this and be like, man, I really wish I got Coleman.
6:17Let's talk about the rookie running back. This one plays the Kansas City Chase.
6:21His name is Emmett Johnson. There's a lot to discuss here because Emmett Johnson looks incredible.
6:26And let's say his small usage so far this season.
6:28To the point that I think he is number one in force missed tackles.
6:32The only issue here, Joel, is that he's playing behind Kenneth Walker, who looks like the best running back in the NFL at this moment.
6:40I think there's a lot of people wondering, and then he's even getting questions, Andy Reid, of, hey, does this mean Emmett Johnson has earned more work?
6:47And then what does that mean for K9? So just overall, how were you approaching Emmett Johnson last week on the waiver wire?
6:54And still right now, because he's only rostered in 27% of Yahoo.
6:57Yeah, I would be more aggressive this week, just with how these two weeks have gone.
7:02And just the other running backs in this room.
7:05I don't think this is one of you like, you don't need stats for Emmett Johnson.
7:09Just watch the game and you're like, oh my gosh, he's so fun.
7:13So with Walker, he's getting a ton of work.
7:15We know the history of Walker. I think he'll be fine.
7:19He's just getting a ton of volume. And with them saying that, like, I don't necessarily care for like Emmett Johnson's role right now.
7:26Them saying like them being like, yes, he has earned more.
7:29We want to maybe give him a little bit more work and take a little bit off of Walker's plate.
7:34That doesn't worry me for Walker. It doesn't like hype me up to use Johnson now.
7:39But what it does mean to me is, oh, if Walker misses a game or two, Johnson is like a top 20 auto starts or 12 one fantasy.
7:47Yeah. With RV one fantasy potential, like the ceiling is high hot, like sky high.
7:51They cut Amari Di Mercado, which early in camp, it was like Di Mercado's above Johnson.
7:56They take their rookies slow in Kansas city, even their stars like Rasheed Rice, Tyree kill.
8:01So the fact that he's already week three and they're like, yeah, we need to get him more touches.
8:06That says a lot to me. Yeah. This one might not pay off in week three.
8:11Heck it might not even pay off in week 13, but Emmitt Johnson, and we've only seen him touch the football 14
8:17times in his NFL career so far, but it is so evident that he has a juice that he has a tackle
8:23breaking ability that I will say if K nine misses a game or two or three, that Emmitt Johnson for me would
8:29be ranked as a top 12 runner in the NFL.
8:32I do want to point you to, cause Andy Reed was asked about this after last night's game.
8:38He said, quote, I think Emmitt will continue to get more snaps and that'll take a little bit off of the load
8:44off of Ken Walker, the third, but he wants that ball.
8:47Kenny does. He wants the ball every time and he's not asking to be relieved or anything else, but I think as
8:53it goes on, you get a nice balance with those two in there and then it keeps them even more fresh as the season goes on.
9:01So on paper, Joel, I drafted a ton of Kenneth Walker, the third, that might frighten me, but then you look at the actual numbers.
9:08He's averaging 31 and a half opportunities per game right now, 23 and a half carries eight targets.
9:13I would gladly take 25 opportunities per game from here on out.
9:17And if that gives an extra three, four or five touches to Emmitt Johnson per game, that is totally fine.
9:22Yeah. It's something that doesn't really matter to me at all when I'm talking in like value long-term and trades or anything
9:29like that, especially usually when players like lose touches, do backup running backs to keep them fresh.
9:33It's just the between the 20 carries. So it's not like super valuable.
9:37So would you be even more aggressive if you drafted Ken Walker at the one, two turn to get Emmitt Johnson?
9:43Or is this one of the players that no matter who was on your roster, you want to add Emmitt Johnson here?
9:50I want to add him no matter what. I think the answer would be more aggressive if you have Ken Walker, because
9:56right now Walker was drafted where he was later second instead of earlier because of the injuries.
10:01Like that was really the only like big concern.
10:03So now when you have like such an answer and Emmitt Johnson, that we didn't really have pre-draft, I would be aggressive
10:10if I have Walker just to get that insurance.
10:12Yeah. I know a lot of people who watch this channel ended up with K9.
10:16I mean, I think, I think Hayden had him 11th overall and I did him 13th overall when, when draft season ended.
10:23Um, I think I would even prioritize Emmitt Johnson ahead of Jonah Coleman.
10:27As crazy as that sounds, Joe, what would you say?
10:29If I had Walker, I think so. Yeah. Yeah.
10:32I think they're close. I think I would favor Coleman just on a regular team, but they're close.
10:37It's, it's more, I Coleman probably brings a bit more independent value, but then I could see Emmitt Johnson being a true
10:43league winner if he gets the opportunity to do that.
10:46And that's the kind of difference you have to weigh here with the waivers.
10:50Okay. Let's talk about another back up duo. We had to go to Philadelphia.
10:54Sadly, the other player that I drafted constantly in the one, two turns, Saquon Barkley got banged up with a stinger on his first touch.
11:02He missed the majority of the game, came back after halftime and then exited once again.
11:06That led us to Tank Bigsby who's rostered in 29% of leagues out there and Will Shipley getting opportunities.
11:12So Shipley was out there for 24 passing snaps versus seven runs.
11:15Tank Bigsby was out there for 14 runs in seven pass attempts.
11:18Joel is the most important piece of this information is we saw what the backfield split would be once Saquon went down and what would happen moving forward.
11:26Yes, I'd say so. And just, it was very clear what they did where Bigsby was got on the ground.
11:32Shipley was the guy in the air. And as we all predicted, it was a neck and neck game between the Eagles and Titans.
11:39So there was a lot of passing actually compared to what the Eagles usually try to do.
11:44So the box score, it kind of looks like more of a split, but if it's the Eagles usual game with their
11:50defense, with their run heavy style, it should be Bigsby as that RB one, the carries were 13 to seven, but that
11:57was with Shipley getting the third down work. He had a ton more routes than Bigsby.
12:01So this isn't like an Emma Johnson situation where it's guaranteed volume for the RB two, but more of a split where I'd favor Bigsby.
12:08The biggest frustration of this is the Eagles can't freaking run the football right now.
12:13Like if yards before contact is not a perfect metric, but it does a decent job.
12:17Okay. And if you look at of the 54 qualifying running backs out there for the first two weeks, Saquon Barkley ranks
12:2453rd and Tank Bigsby now ranks 44th in yards before contact per attempt.
12:27That is not good. And you know, that's moving off of Lander Dickerson after week one, and then now moving Cam Juergens
12:34to left guard and having a new center. And sure, they faced off against, you know, some formidable defense tackles and Jeffrey Simmons in week two.
12:41But I think that's the big concern here. I was anticipating Eagles offense to get back to gelling and creating lanes.
12:47And maybe that does happen in the future, but it doesn't seem like Jolo that's like a turn the page to week three and week four.
12:55And we named it down. And by the way, we don't even know if Saquon Barkley is going to miss.
13:00He has a stinger. He's getting an MRI. Some imaging and we'll find out more.
13:05I think these next couple of days, let's jump to wide receivers.
13:08There's a bunch of names to hit on here.
13:11The first one is Trey Tucker of the Las Vegas Raiders rostered in 29% of leagues out there had gains of 42,
13:1740, 50, 15, and 13 in this game. What'd you see from Trey Tucker?
13:21What do you think people should do with Trey Tucker on the waiver war?
13:25It's all positive comparing to week one, same as some other guys have talked about.
13:29I bet he was dropped in lots of leagues.
13:32So I think he can have some value Kubiak.
13:34We know that how explosive this passing offense can be in the deep passing game.
13:39They didn't have that in week one. He comes out week two.
13:42We need to do that. And they did, even though I saw your clip on Twitter, like Kirk Cousins using all of
13:48his might to get it 40 yards downfield, but it worked and he got it.
13:53So I think my comparison in fantasy in real life would just be 2024 Rashid Shahid on the Saints.
13:58Yeah, perfect. We're wanting deep gut. It's not going to be consistent, but he'll have weeks where he has eight or nine
14:05targets and a hundred yards and it can work on a fill in basis.
14:09Joel loved doing the show with you. We're on the same page here.
14:12Like Clint Kubiak has been an aggressive downfield play caller in every stop that he's had.
14:17And it's not like ahead of those stops that the New Orleans Saints or the Seattle Seahawks were viewed as those explosive passing teams.
14:24And now in week one, obviously when they demolish their opponents, they didn't throw down the field.
14:29Right. Obviously then Clint Kubiak went and told reporters, Hey, we need the only way to do that is if we actually
14:35throw the ball, you know, and we actually heave it.
14:38And as you said, Kirk Cousins did that to the tune that Trey Tucker transformed from wide receiver 73 in week one,
14:44as you said, people might drop him up to wide receiver six this past week.
14:48So I think this can continue a little bit.
14:51It's going to be high variance for sure. And there's heat comparison is there, but there is no one else on this
14:57offense that can fulfill that type of downfield passing capability and receiving ability like Trey Tucker.
15:02You know, it's not Chris Olave is opposite him or Rashid Jaheed on the Seattle Seahawks.
15:07And so if that's the case with Kirk and then future with Fernando Mendoza, they're going to throw it on the field.
15:13So I really do believe that Trey Tucker should be a priority add for a lot of you out there compared to
15:19a lot of the, Hey, low ceiling and even inconsistent on top of that wide receivers that you might've drafted.
15:25Yeah. And I think there is a decent gap between him and Jalen Naylor too from week one, the first couple of weeks.
15:31Yeah. I mean, seven of his eight targets were nine plus yards down the field, deep post touchdown versus two high safeties.
15:38He only played, I think 37 of 63 snaps, but most importantly, it was 25 of 33 dropbacks.
15:43So again, we're going to have these weeks where he scores as the wide receiver 50.
15:48We're also going to have some other weeks where he scores as the wide receiver 20.
15:52Guess what? That happens with every person. That's the wide receiver.
15:55I don't know, 29 and beyond in, in fancy football right now.
15:59Yeah. Don Tavon Wicks is next. A name we talked about last week with the Philadelphia Eagles.
16:04He's opened the season as wide receiver 15 and wide receiver 26.
16:07He's still rostered in only 28% of Yahoo leagues out there.
16:10Joel is two games, enough of a sample to say, Hey, this is real.
16:14Let's buy in. It's a solid sample. I will say I, if you told me that Makai lemon was having a higher
16:21route share than Don Tavon Wicks, I would never think about picking Wicks up because that was like the concern with lemon.
16:27So lemon hasn't lived up to potential yet. I think he's a great stash as well.
16:31Keep him on your rosters, but with Don Tavon Wicks still 73% route share, they might have to throw a little bit
16:38more like they did in week two because of this run game that you pointed out.
16:42And it's just a really good offense when they are throwing a lot of times when the Eagles receivers aren't good, it's
16:49because they throw 20 to 25 times in a game and they don't hit that.
16:53But I would say like his week two, five for 74 is a lot better for the future looking than like his
16:59two catch touchdown game in week one. So week two made me more confident.
17:03Yeah, I totally understand not starting Don Tavon Wicks in week one.
17:07We didn't know what to expect at all. I think on the show and then obviously on other episodes that we do
17:13throughout the week, mentioning the Tennessee Titans with his team favored and expected to score around 24 points.
17:18Yeah, you could fit them in there in your flex.
17:21And then Joel, they face the Chicago bears and that secondary here in, in week three.
17:26Like if you have brought Dontavian Wicks onto your team already and you have some questions via injury or underperformers again, I
17:32think Wicks is a totally fine flex play here in, in week three, over 70 yards in both games.
17:37Uh, obviously at a touchdown in week one, but as you said, he's basically playing the same amount of snaps as Makai
17:44Lemon, albeit a couple less here, but Wicks has drawn 10 targets.
17:47Makai Lemon has drawn five targets. Wicks has 147 yards and a touchdown.
17:51Makai Lemon only has nine total yards and we're getting these corner routes.
17:55We're getting some in breakers. He's living kind of in that intermediate section.
17:58Meanwhile, Makai stuff kind of seems closer to the line of scrimmage.
18:02So I really like what I see out of this and I'm starting to buy in even more to this post hype sleeper season.
18:09Um, and maybe it's only the first half, but Joel, let's ride this thing for, you know, while we have it and
18:15for how much Wicks is playing in an offense that has to be passed first.
18:19Now, uh, I think he's a totally fine player.
18:22Yeah. And not to mention like Makai, he has five targets.
18:25Most of those are right at the line of scrimmage as we know.
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19:15Adonai Mitchell is another one. He's open as wide receiver 38 and wide receiver 28 on the season.
19:20That's notable to me because he hasn't even scored a touchdown yet.
19:2312 targets this past week, six catches for 63 yards.
19:26So he has at least again, some consistency of 60 yards in both games to open the season.
19:31He's almost an every snap player, 41 of 50 dropbacks.
19:34I never quit him. And Joel, I'm excited that we're going to talk about him again.
19:39Yeah, I think a lot of people are going to be talking about him over this next month.
19:44Like you said, he's playing a lot. I think Gino is a really good fit for him.
19:49Obviously we talked about Gino loves Adonai Mitchell, but with the offensive line, not get, I know the defense has been great,
19:55but Geno hasn't been under pressure a lot. So if they can keep that up, Geno has been the fifth lowest pressure
20:01rated quarterback in week one and two, then Adonai Mitchell, that's when he gets his downfield targets to get 150 air yards this week.
20:08So I think that's when there's 12 targets become a lot more valuable because you can get them 12 targets because you
20:15have the time to throw those downfield shots. He's not getting these little quick targets.
20:19So the fact that they can protect Gino is huge.
20:22A hundred percent. He had a couple of drops in the weather and this was bad weather against the Packers.
20:28He also did draw a 34 yard defensive pass interference down the field that obviously is not accounted for in a stats again, no touchdowns.
20:35So we're getting some level of stability, a floor with the 60 yards in back-to-back games.
20:39And I want to point you to the schedule, Joel Adonai Mitchell gets the lions, the bears and the Browns defenses over
20:46the next three weeks, then a rough one against the Patriots.
20:49But then we're back with the Miami dolphins right after that.
20:52So I'm going to ask you, Adonai Mitchell only rostered in 16%.
20:55Dontavian Wicks, 28%, Trey Tucker, 29%. Rank those in order.
20:58You can have a moment if you need to, but rank them the order of priority of as you would add them on the waiver wire this week.
21:06I think Wicks would be third still, especially with Lemon there and just that offense, maybe nicer in the short term.
21:12And with Goddard being injured right now, the top two are tough.
21:16Tough. I think, I think Mitchell's my number one.
21:18I love it. And then Tucker. Yeah. I think Mitchell might be more consistent, which is so weird to say given his
21:25history, but I think he has the potential of being a more consistent guy week to week.
21:29I totally agree with you. I will put Adonai Mitchell first in the list.
21:34I feel the jets are locked into him as a two wide receiver set starter.
21:38And then they'll, you know, move around Isaiah Williams and Kenan Sadiq and whatever the slot player is.
21:43And so they're going to live with kind of the ups and downs of that.
21:47And I mentioned, heck they did in this past game.
21:50And Joel, the reason why he hasn't had a single game yet above the peak of Wicks or above the peak of
21:56Trey Tucker is only because he hasn't scored a touchdown yet.
22:00And so once he adds a touchdown onto this, heck maybe that gave me those 30 yards, but then you add another six points onto it.
22:07So yes, baking in the schedule, baking in the offensive line point that you made that that gives them some level of
22:13stability and protection and a platform to have success.
22:16Adonai Mitchell would still be the number one wide receiver ad for me this week too.
22:21I would go as far as like 15, 20, 25%.
22:23Hold on to a good portion of that. I would hopefully try to run that 15%, but at worst, I think he
22:30could be your wide receiver five moving forward. Yeah.
22:32And final point, they haven't really been in passive game scripts.
22:35So he's doing this in close games are winning.
22:38Love that. Let's talk Rashad Bateman because he had a huge week.
22:41Um, 38 of 40 dropbacks he played. And I mean, the, the counting stats were, were absolutely incredible.
22:47I'm sure producer Weaves is throwing them on the screen right now as I pull them up on top of it.
22:53Seven catches, 88 yards, one touchdown. The route that he had 22 yard touchdown was a beauty.
22:58He gave the defensive back a head nod to the outside, cut it back inside, all that type of stuff.
23:03So what are we saying? Is Rashad Bateman here to stay?
23:06Like we've seen about these other post-site sleepers or are you kind of aware that this might be some fool's gold?
23:12I don't think it's fool's gold as long as flowers is out when flower.
23:16I think it's a good sign for flowers with just like how this offense is moving in this passing attack.
23:22But the reason I say that as long as flowers is out is he is the clear number one that they trust in this passing game.
23:30I would say when we're looking at the other receivers, the next closest was right at like a 50% route share.
23:36And you brought up how like Bateman was getting almost every single route.
23:39They talked all week about how they're going to use them in this game and get a lot of plays designed for them.
23:46And we saw that and worked out really well.
23:49I trust this passing attack just with Lamar in this new offense.
23:52Totally. This team is very focused on their wide receiver one, as we have seen with say flowers.
23:57And then the wide receiver two is a bit of an afterthought.
24:01That's the role Bateman has been in. That's, you know, Jacoby Lane getting some targets when he was mixing in there.
24:07So I agree with what you're saying. We're at best.
24:10This is a short term ad. It sounds like say flowers.
24:13It was close to playing this past week and hopefully can play again in week three.
24:17And if that's the case, then, you know, Bateman is almost a wide receiver handcuff, but I mean, he looked good.
24:23Maybe this is one of those cases that this, you know, leads them to somehow some way incorporating a second wide receiver
24:30a bit more, but it's not like he doesn't have a history with Lamar Jackson.
24:34He absolutely does. So to me, that's more of an outline of the offense that there's one figurehead at wide receiver.
24:40And then like the tertiary pieces just have zero consistency on a weekly basis.
24:44Yeah. And I think at worst, you can have them in weeks when this is projected to be a really high scoring
24:50offense and like a 50 point game total. I think you can work there with flowers still, if you can just get
24:57them like six targets in this offense, six targets can be really good.
25:00Sometimes let's talk Denzel Boston, the rookie wide receiver of the Cleveland Browns.
25:04He has opened as the wide receiver 19 and the wide receiver 10 in back-to-back weeks.
25:09The problem, absolutely none of you started him in either of those matchups.
25:12I mean, it makes sense. He plays for the Browns.
25:15They've been underdogs, all that type of stuff. So where are you at with Denzel Boston?
25:20Do we already like miss the two best games that we might have?
25:24Or is this a rookie who's already starting hot and can continue something close to that moving pool?
25:29I think my answer is we've missed the two best games for now.
25:32I would not expect this in week three, probably not a week four or five, but I think down the line, if
25:39there is like this rookie breakout in Cleveland, it has a really big season.
25:43It looks like it's going to be him. He's running a lot more routes than Casey.
25:47And I think Casey is fine for PPR leagues and has that potential too.
25:51But with these two blow up games, both of them came on like those really big touchdowns.
25:56Yes. Like White Hart has a touchdown. No one else does for the Browns.
26:00So just like that one other receiving touchdown. So he's gotten both of them there.
26:05But I think it's one of those where it's like, oh, I'm not chasing the touchdowns or chasing the points.
26:10It's just like, oh, it's a good sign that he's playing a ton and looks good.
26:15Maybe down the line that can turn into something more consistent.
26:18He's out there all the time. And so sometimes in garbage situations, as we saw in week one, that can lead to
26:24a 46 yard touchdown with two minutes left when you're down 34 to three on the scoreboard.
26:29Now this past week was all real to me, you know, seven targets, five receptions, 95 yards and a score.
26:35They obviously beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He nearly had a second touchdown, but he couldn't hold onto it.
26:40Secure it, get that second foot in bounds. He's winning.
26:43And this is the most important thing to me.
26:46He's winning exactly like he did at Washington in terms of creating that sliver of separation on the tight window targets.
26:52And he has the defenders bouncing off of him after contact.
26:55I mean, the long catch run this past week was like freaking sick, man.
26:59Now who knows that Deshaun Watson has now bought himself an extra week and he's the quarterback against the Carolina Panthers in week three.
27:06Who knows what Shador Sanders looks like when he plays quarterback, but Denzel Boston, the talent should be rostered in at least
27:1250% of Yahoo leagues, if not higher Joel. So the only thing that's keeping him down at this percentage at 32% is
27:19the environment and who he's playing around. And if that's the case, then he's definitely worth an ad to me and right
27:25around the same mark as I would put with Trey Tucker and Adnay Mitchell.
27:29Yeah. I think he can hit like Fannin did in the second half, especially Ben, it was good like all year, but
27:35that was like a lot of that was with Sanders.
27:38I think if Sanders can get in here, they can drop back 40 times a game and just have a lot of those completions.
27:45I think Boston can really break out in the second half there.
27:48Let's quickly talk quarterbacks because we've had quarterback injuries to, you know, Jane Daniels.
27:52We've had some underperformers like Drake may. There's a lot to discuss here.
27:56Uh, the two quarterbacks that I did want to bring up Bryce young roster in 33% of leaks and Tyler Shuck at 48%.
28:03Both play in the NFC South. Both are top three in passing yards out there and both might be, you know, surprising
28:09names as fancy scores through the opening two weeks of the season.
28:13Do you have a preference here? Do you want to talk about either?
28:16I would, my preference would be Shuck just with the volume with his offense.
28:20They are number one in pace this year. They're number one last year.
28:24We've talked about the volume. That's what's most important for me looking at quarterback, especially waiver quarterbacks.
28:29It's like, all right, who's just getting a ton of volume.
28:32I don't think that's going to go away at the same time.
28:35Bryce does have really good volume, at least through these first two weeks, their password of our expected is second highest to
28:42only Dallas, which we expect that from Dallas. We wouldn't totally expect that from Carolina.
28:46So they've just gone super pass heavy and their defense probably can help Bryce young in fantasy some weeks along the, on the long way.
28:53And they helped them this week by creating turnovers and, and, you know, getting short fields and all that type of stuff.
29:00We are actually talking about the quarterback two and the quarterback five and fancy football at this moment.
29:05I mean, that, that is pretty amazing looking at the quarterback six through 11 this past weekend.
29:10I think that's why many of you are feeling as if the, you know, fancy scoring demons hit your lineups this week.
29:16I will put a point in Bryce Young's favor for this.
29:19Their schedule over the last two weeks can kind of mirror the schedule of the first two weeks.
29:24You know, when they scored 37 and 34 points against the Browns and the Falcons, excuse me, the bears and the Falcons
29:31because they get the Browns and the lions over the next two weeks.
29:34So Bryce is, I think a short-term look that if you pick them up, you need to have it in mind that
29:41you'll probably start him over the next two weeks.
29:43It gets a bit more difficult after that with like Eagles and the Broncos and the saints and the Bravens and all this type of stuff.
29:51But I buy into this team passing the football a lot more.
29:54I've spoken at length about it, so I won't do it again.
29:58And especially down the field passing and for as many games as we've had Bryce, Tedrow McMillan and Jalen Coker together.
30:04Good things that really happened. So I don't think this is a fluke necessarily, and especially not a fluke against these weaker defenses.
30:10And they have another two week defenses coming up.
30:13Yeah. I think that is the part to take advantage of.
30:16I feel less confident against those like top defenses to play Bryce, especially right now, but I guess those weaker defenses.
30:22He's been great. Okay. Let's talk some deep cuts on 1% of Yahoo leagues out there.
30:27Emmanuel Wilson is on a roster. He now plays with Seattle Seahawks.
30:30Hopefully you all know that he did play 29 snaps in this game compared to 24 for Jadarian price and then 18 for George Holani.
30:37And I wanted to bring this name up. Obviously I drafted a lot of Jadarian price this year.
30:42Joel, if you just look at the box score, Emmanuel Wilson, 21 carries 92 yards.
30:47Jadarian price, 13 carries 52 yards. What does that say to you?
30:50With the injury, I'm not too worried about the price leaving early.
30:53So I think it's still going to be Wilson as just a short yardage in the way of price, like turning into greatness and fantasy.
31:01That's like the main concern for me is there is just like the very similar role that we have with Kenneth Walker last year.
31:08The red zone carries were four to three. A lot of that was just if they were first and five, like first
31:14and five from the goal line, it could be Jadarian price.
31:17But then once they got like two or three yards away and we just need a hammer, that's when they would go with Emmanuel Wilson.
31:24So I kind of set you up that question and you nailed it.
31:28All right. Because I had the same read about Jadarian price exiting with the shoulder issue.
31:32His last touch was at 229 left in the third quarter.
31:36He landed on his shoulder after a tackle. Mike McDonald said so far, it's just a slight injury, not that big of an issue.
31:43Um, he only played one snap after that, but from then on, Emmanuel Wilson had 14 carries for 21 yards.
31:48And so that's why the box score might lie to us a little bit with this.
31:53And hopefully this kind of doesn't continue in, in that direction.
31:56But I am of the opinion that Jadarian price still looks like the best running back in this group.
32:01However, Joel, his box score would have looked a lot better if he got, I don't know, 10 of those 14 carries in the fourth quarter.
32:09And we'd be thinking about him, I think very differently heading into week three.
32:13Yeah, I agree too. I think his role has potential to grow where walkers it was, Oh, maybe next week the role will be there.
32:20Oh, this is a good sign. This is a good sign.
32:23It just kept being good signs until Charbonnet is back.
32:26I think there is like a legit chance that his role can continue to grow.
32:30Let's talk Khalif Raymond, 9% on rosters on Yahoo leagues.
32:33We talked about him last week. And again, he ran the same number of routes as Luther Burton.
32:38He has posted wide receiver 21 and wide receiver 44 scoring so far, another five for 40 on his plate in week two.
32:45Anything you want to add onto what we said about Raymond last week, he played a lot more of the two receiver
32:51sets than burden looking at week one, it kind of flipped.
32:55So Duns, they was out there a lot more too.
32:57So that's part of it as well, but it was a lot of Raymond and Duns.
33:02And those two receiver sets was really important for the bears because they run so much with combat and level in both
33:08on the field and those two tight ends. It's interesting.
33:11I think a lot of his production is due to who they have played in these opening two weeks, like for the
33:17Panthers, their best part of their defense or their outside corners.
33:21And so him working underneath over the middle makes sense, especially in zone.
33:24And then against the Minnesota Vikings, they muddy everything up in all the gaps and they play deep coverage in the back.
33:31And then if Caleb was smooch or didn't know where to go with the football, he was the easy access player over middle of the field.
33:38So Khalif Raymond is like the lowest of the ceiling players.
33:41It is fascinating to me how he is pulling snaps away from other players on the team.
33:46And maybe that's the most notable takeaway to me versus, Hey, we need to add him because he is perfectly fine and
33:52has a history with Ben Johnson that I wonder how long that lasts for.
33:57Antonio Williams, rookie wide receiver for the commanders. We talked about it.
34:00He scored as the wide receiver 14 on 12 routes in week one, then the wide receiver 70 on 26 routes in week two.
34:07So Joel, we got fewer fancy points, but a bump in usage.
34:10So what does that do to you? I'd be more excited if it wasn't for the Jane Daniels injury.
34:16I'm really worried about Daniels and it's like the length I'm guessing it's going to be long-term.
34:21So with Mario coming in, they went really have run heavy last season with Mario when he was in there and you add in digs.
34:28I don't think there is much of a reason to have them in redraft.
34:32If Daniels is out that whole time, but you're happy in dynasty.
34:35You got it. And if you're rebuilding, if Daniels is out for the season or out for a really long time, I
34:42think he's like a good buy for a rebuild team in dynasty.
34:45So there's been a lot of positive. I'll go some rapid fire here.
34:49Ted Hurst is playing a whole bunch of snaps as a rookie wide receiver for the bucks 29 of 44 dropbacks.
34:55That's the wide receiver three. The scene lives out of 11 personnel.
34:58I will say a lot of his routes are just wind sprints.
35:02They're clear outs for egg Buka and Chris Godwin.
35:04Um, although when they did return from the weather delay down for with 51 seconds, they open with three straight targets in his direction.
35:11They're all a bit too difficult. He's like this really, really narrow margin of victory, uh, to like sideline grabs, tight window, all this type of stuff.
35:19But I'm not sure if this is really going to grow into, let's say a valuable baseline target earner type player that
35:25we can depend on in fancy football. Yeah. Yes.
35:2810 targets this year and a 20 yard, a dot.
35:31So kind of like, you know, Alec Pierce's at the world.
35:34So it can work. There's a chance I would watch out for Jalen McMillan though.
35:38Yes. And Baker needs to be on fire. I think for someone like Ted Hurst to like be a good asset for us.
35:45Yeah. Quickly DJ Moore exited. We know on Thursday night football, he is considered a day to day with an AC joint spring.
35:51It looked a lot worse on the field. Josh Palmer, Keon Coleman are like 2% rostered out there.
35:56Uh, basically if DJ Moore comes back and if he plays Joel, these guys aren't worth your time.
36:02Yes. Yeah. If I had to choose one, I would choose Coleman.
36:05Okay. Laquan Treadwell. I actually do want to bring up his name because Alec Pierce went down very quickly.
36:10And once Alec Pierce went down, Laquan Treadwell played 27 of 35 dropbacks.
36:14That was basically more than Keenan Allen. They don't want Keenan Allen to be out there in two wide receiver sets as
36:21an outside wide receiver for this team. And Keenan Allen is probably going to be suspended for a handful of games.
36:27So Joel, in the year of 2026, Laquan Treadwell really might be in our lives as a heavy, heavy snap count player.
36:33And just because of that, and because of how often the Colts throw the ball, he's going to get targets in this offense.
36:39Yeah. I think unless it's a really deep league, I think I'll pass.
36:43I think he might be in an 11 year bet.
36:46Now I am rooting for him. So last night I was like, my, the empathy came out when he fumbled.
36:52Oh my gosh. I was going to feel so bad.
36:55I was going to feel so bad. So like, thank God he didn't fumble, but I'll pass him on fantasy.
37:00It does give me a lot of hope for Josh Downs though.
37:04So Josh Downs, Tyler Warren a little bump, but I'll pass on Treadwell.
37:08Tight ends, Darren Waller, 3% of Yahoo leagues. He's playing on 22 of 40 dropbacks just quickly on him.
37:13He's an asset for this team in the red zone.
37:16He should have had a touchdown in week one that was cleared and ruled out by a bogus OPI.
37:21Then he had two in week two. What they do is they put T-Mac and Jalen Coker on one side of the
37:28field and then Darren Waller on the other and make the defense read and cover the full field.
37:33And that's just tough to do. Like, Hey, you're going to account for these two wide receivers, or are you going to
37:39get isolated coverage for Darren Waller as he's winning in man coverage on the other side?
37:44So that's a big asset in your tight end premium leagues.
37:47And then I'll even bring up Joel Aranda Gadsden.
37:49Charlie Kohler played 42 snaps. Then he exited with an arm injury.
37:53David and Joku played 11 snaps. He would cart it off with, I believe a knee injury.
37:58So then Aranda Gadsden, who was buried on the depth chart because he can't block popped up for 18 routes, which would
38:04be 15 routes on 31 dropbacks and had a touchdown on top of it.
38:08So again, the blocking has been a major issue in all facets for the Chargers.
38:12Aranda Gadsden is still an awful blocker, but at some point they also need someone who can catch the football and Gadsden can do that.
38:20Yeah. And he had multiple games last week or last year that were really good.
38:24So I think with, especially lad banked up a little bit, I think Gadsden can have a real role here as a receiving tight end.
38:31The Chargers are an absolute mess. Okay. Here's your drop list quickly.
38:34And I'm not saying go out and definitely drop some of these players.
38:38However, way in your head, the positivity we said for some versus the lack of importance.
38:43And if these players even exist in your fantasy mind, when you're debating, if you should start them in your lineup or
38:49not like, Hey, would you rather have the guy that we hyped up and we talked about, would you be more amped
38:55to start them versus these, you know, just terrible, terrible picks that you made?
38:59Okay. The first is Kenny Gainwell, 74% of leagues he's rostered in.
39:03He has 5.3 total points so far. Get rid of him.
39:06Chris Rodriguez. He's at 3.6 through two weeks, Joel.
39:09I know you've looked into this. The facial toot and stuff has been fantastic in the first two weeks, despite a difficult matchup in week two.
39:16And most notably toot is the one that got the wildcat carry inside the five yard line and Chris Rodriguez was sideline.
39:22Yeah. The split grew actually a lot. The touches were basically the same, but toot and put a lot more snaps this week than he did last week.
39:30Keaton Mitchell has 5.3 points through two weeks. He's kind of just a bit light to me.
39:35And if really Mike McDaniels not really working as a play caller, then the theory of the play of Keaton Mitchell, just
39:42being kind of this undeniably fast player that is schemed open all these touches that also doesn't work either.
39:47Um, Marvin Harrison Jr. was drafted in 90% of Yahoo leagues out there and he has 3.8 points through two weeks.
39:53Joel, what are you doing? It's tough. I think he's still worth a bench spot and you got to like hope for
39:59something, but they have played two teams that have played against a top or play a ton of zone coverage.
40:05So if you want like an excuse, like there's your excuse.
40:08Marv had one of the biggest differences last year in targets versus man versus zone and chargers Seattle just played a ton of zone at best.
40:16Marvin Harrison Jr. is an average football player. I think Michael Wilson's a better wide receiver.
40:20We know that Trey McBride is one of, if not the best tight end in football, you are not playing Marvin Harrison Jr.
40:27on your team against the 49ers the next two weeks and probably not the giants either, to be honest after that though, it is the lions.
40:34So you have to pick your spot. If you want Marvin Harrison Jr.
40:38to be in our lineup. And again, compare that to what we talked about the consistency of Adonai Mitchell or whoever else.
40:44So weigh that in your mind with this Courtland Sutton.
40:47This is a player who's getting squeezed in two directions in that you have Jalen Waddle as the big play primary pass catcher, Joel.
40:54And then you also have Pat Bryant who they're manufacturing touches for and is kind of the younger version of this.
41:00So his 6.1 points, despite being drafted in 83% of leagues, I don't know what Courtland Sutton would do for me.
41:06Yeah. Like wide receiver handcuffed in a way. And it's just hard to ever predict when he's going to have a good week.
41:13He's going to have good weeks. I just have no idea when it's going to be.
41:17Yeah. He's like really turned into, I think a touchdown or bust player because he's just not going to get as much
41:24volume as he did over the last couple of seasons.
41:27QJ only has 4.6 points. That's a QJ problem.
41:29He's just dropping passes out there. And again, if the Chargers offense doesn't work, then QJ has enough individual warts to him
41:35that he's also not going to work. And then I do want to bring up Drake May.
41:40I would drop to Drake May. I would not drop him, but Joel, I would look for alternatives.
41:46Like we talked about Bryshon, we talked about Tyler Shuck.
41:48Um, the might be slim pickings out there, but Drake May is getting to a point that he's not on fire like he was last year.
41:56And we were hoping that the AJ Brown addition would kind of take this passing offense to the next level and him
42:02being on injury reserve for at least the next three games doesn't leave me for a lot of hope for Drake.
42:08Yeah. The digs absence now like means something now that they don't have AJ Brown.
42:13So the weapons aren't there. I think he can get there rushing fine and with his offense fine, but he is more
42:19of a matchup dependent play, which is not really what you want for.
42:23I think he was drafted third or fourth among quarterback.
42:25Yes. I mean, he gets the Jaguars and the bills over the next two weeks.
42:30So it's again, not one of these players that you just set it and forget it at quarterback.
42:35I kind of think you need to weigh some of your options.
42:38Uh, if the matchup makes sense. And then finally I would hold off on dropping any Atlanta Falcons out there.
42:44I know a lot of you just want to flat out drop Kyle Pitts.
42:48He'd be most likely for me. Obviously you're not moving Drake London.
42:52No one wants him or be John Robinson, but it sounds like Michael Pennix is going to start this Thursday and Joel
42:58it's, you know, a big deal when we think it's a big deal that Michael Pennix is going to make this offense even better.
43:05Yeah. I've been a dead horse on the difference between Pennix and these other quarterbacks for so many reasons.
43:10He's not the greatest quarterback in the world. But for London, he is perfect.
43:14He's perfect. Yes. Like London. All right. That does it for us.
43:18We just need that Falcons offense to be like, not the worst, just be below average.
43:22And some of these guys, like two of them can get there on a weekly basis.
43:27Uh, Joel, thank you. You can follow all of Joel's work, social media, all of it will link in the description down below.
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43:38We'll talk to guys next time. See ya.
