0:00Oh yes, you know what time it is. Week 3, Stats vs Film, our flagship show where we watch every single game.
0:08Yes, 16 from the weekend. Compare that with the stats, the metrics, the spreadsheets in the hope of helping you bully your fantasy football rival in week four.
0:17And we have a big episode today as we talk through every single team.
0:22And boys, look, things have been negative as of late, right?
0:26We have a lot of injuries. We have some disappointing players on top of it, maybe some draft picks that did not work out.
0:34So, Matt, Herman, I want to turn to you first.
0:37Give me something positive that you have learned that you have taken away from the first two weeks just so we can start off on the right foot.
0:47I mean, we are able to speak positively about the Carolina Panthers, Josh Norris.
0:52I mean, you and I know in particular that this is why I wanted to do this.
0:57That's that's not something that we've been able to do very often.
1:02And, you know, a lot of times you come up with these theories, you talk about things in the offseason and it
1:09gets completely just obliterated within the first two weeks of the season.
1:13I certainly feel like that about several of my takes, but we talked about this.
1:18I know you guys talked about on your show.
1:21We talked about on the forecast as well. Brad Edzik becoming the play caller was going to be a big change.
1:29And the fact that they had two, in my opinion, like if I was to sit down and rank real life NFL receivers.
1:36Two top 24, top 25 wide receivers in the NFL and Ted O'McMillan and Jalen Coker, like all the things are happening.
1:44Darren Waller being a red zone for us is there.
1:47I mean, I mean, yeah, we're able to say positive things about the Carolina Panthers and that feels pretty good right now.
1:55Looking at yards for play goes Bills, Ravens, Panthers, 49ers, Rams, Chiefs, Bears, Seahawks.
2:00The special team there is definitely the Carolina Panthers.
2:03Are we pounding? Are we pounding guys? I wouldn't say we have kept it going for years, but maybe we can begin
2:10once again here with this Panthers here. Okay. Hey, I knew that wouldn't have been your answer.
2:16So that's why I kick things off. All right.
2:19As you all know, we start with the 10 headline teams.
2:23And unfortunately, a lot of these are going to be massive sweeping changes that maybe destroy, you know, the positivity from a lot of the fan bases.
2:32We begin with the New York Giants. That is number one.
2:36Hayden, this is worst case scenario. Last night's optimism of a two to four week knee injury for Jackson Dart now seems to likely be a season ender.
2:46Jameis Winston entered that contest. Jameis Winston was horrible.
2:49Jameis Winston has been really a bad quarterback outside of a seven game sample for about the last eight years.
2:55So what does this do? Not just for the Giants in totality, but even more importantly, our fantasy assets of Malik neighbors, Isaiah likely and Kim scatterbilt.
3:05Getting the evaluation on Jackson Dart was the most critical piece of the entire Giants season.
3:10And now we're not going to be able to get it like way more so than the coaching staff, way more so
3:18than Malik neighbors coming back from injury, way more than Abdul Carter's second season.
3:23Like they got to figure out the quarterback position and in a new offense and like more like the traditional stuff.
3:30And we're just not going to get that at this point.
3:33So I think that's like a huge bummer for the Giants, obviously for Jackson Dart himself.
3:39And then hopefully when he does come back from this injury, hopefully he's the same level athlete because that's really what made him special as a rookie.
3:48And obviously he was going to be doing that plenty in his second season.
3:53So hopefully this is not a super long term injury, like one that like changes like the next couple of seasons for
4:00him, because like that was like really the special part of him.
4:05Through one and a half years. Josh, I found an old tweet of mine that I had from the 2024 season when
4:12Malik neighbors went crazy on the Indianapolis Colts at the end of that year and basically put them out of position to
4:20get a top draft pick that year. I made the joke at the time that, oh, he was actually playing himself out
4:27of a rookie quarterback Malik neighbor so that the team could sign Jameis Winston in free agency, who was in the middle of a complete offensive scam.
4:36It would be Cleveland Browns at the end of that 2024 season.
4:41And, you know, they did sign Jameis Winston actually that offseason, but they also signed Russell Wilson drafted Jackson Dart.
4:47And now we're back here with Jameis Winston. But a lot has changed, man.
4:52I think Winston looked like a guy. I said this to Hayden on the recap show yesterday.
4:58He looked like a guy who spent all offseason as a content creator, not a backup quarterback.
5:04Neighbors also like the shoulder injury. I still think he doesn't look 100% as to be expected.
5:10It just I don't have a lot of optimism about where things are going for the Giants right now.
5:16Totally. And look, so many of us have been playing fancy football since the at least 2019 season when Jameis Winston, you
5:24know, through 33 touchdown passes and 30 interceptions. And for some reason, Hayden, I think a lot of people still have that
5:31season in their brain when what Mike Evans and Chris Godwin were the wide receiver one and two in points per game overall.
5:39And so they think that in this environment, perhaps he can just sling the rock, throw it all over the yard.
5:46I have bad news in that Mr. Harbaugh is not going to want to live in that high variance department.
5:53He is not going to want to live in a turnover worthy machine environment.
5:58So I am nervous for obviously Malik neighbors and Hayden speak on the injury that he had.
6:04That was a recurring one that he only had one catch in that game.
6:08And I mean, there's so many different layers to go through here and much different feeling than week one to week two to now to week three.
6:18And Jameis just throwing the ball down the football field to like actually like to nobody in that opener.
6:24So he's just got to play way better than that.
6:28I think that there's going to be some opportunity for him because the Giants secondary is just like total work in progress.
6:35I think there's gonna be some garbage time available for like the top pass catchers here.
6:41In terms of just watching neighbors, he's clearly not himself.
6:44Like there was like the first play coming back after he pops his shoulder out.
6:49He falls down the football field. We've seen him kind of slip a couple times in week one as well.
6:56I thought he was open underneath on a lot of those passes in the second half.
7:01But Jameis Winston was just throwing the ball way over the top of him and I've been paying attention to him.
7:09So I think Malik neighbors is not himself. And I do think that shoulder injury is a little bit concerning here because
7:16this is something that's been following him since college.
7:19And he's opted to kind of play through it.
7:22He said it completely popped out. They're gonna get some imaging done.
7:26I hope that this is not something that just like lingers throughout the entire year.
7:32And then the Giants are eliminated in week 12.
7:35And then you got finally off to the surgery like that type of outcome makes me a little bit nervous.
7:41But I think the reality is for the next month Malik neighbors is not 90 percent.
7:47He's probably closer to 80 percent. And maybe after watching the first two weeks maybe he's like a half step slower and
7:54less like himself than I was even expecting. Decent spots in the next three weeks though.
8:00Titans, Cardinals, Commanders. Like the schedule is pretty good here.
8:03But I'm with you Hayden. Like I'm watching Malik neighbors right now.
8:07I've been charting his games and it's just it's not all the way there.
8:12So that's obviously really difficult. Also, I do feel like and again Hayden, you and I talked about this on the recap
8:20show that they feel like an offense sort of caught between two worlds where there's like in week one.
8:26They're one of the heaviest personnel teams out there.
8:29And obviously they fall behind in last night's game.
8:32So who's really to say there? But then their rate of 11 personnel and spread concepts really shot up.
8:39It does feel like a half the time we're in Greg Roman's world, half the time we're in Matt Nagy's world.
8:46And I just wonder if like the Giants are going to be one of those teams that, you know, Cam Scadaboo remains
8:54in our lives, but it's just a cross off team from a fantasy standpoint.
8:58By the end of the year, I can certainly see that being an outcome.
9:03Hayden, we'll talk about this in rankings episodes, but is Isaiah likely still a must start?
9:09He's pretty much right there to me. We're talking about a 30% target share.
9:13That's a tight end too. He's a tight end three and expected points in this one.
9:19He ran around 86% of the dropbacks. And then Theo Johnson keeps dropping passes on top of it.
9:25Titans have really struggled, obviously, when we talk about that game in the future.
9:30I think that he's probably a fringe top 10, maybe like a big picture thing.
9:35The depth that tight end is like low key pretty good right now.
9:39Like there's like 16, 17 guys once we get into like Kelsey's back breaking out.
9:45Like now Terrence Ferguson's interesting. Jawan Johnson's officially interesting.
9:48There's a lot of good tight ends right now.
9:51So I think he's like firmly in that mix.
9:54He's not a must play, but the numbers have been pretty sensational for him.
9:59Okay, Matt, let's go to your opponents on Monday Night Football.
10:02That is the LA Rams who put a hurt on this Giants defense for as bad as the passing attack looked in week one.
10:11It rebounded in a big way in week two.
10:14So Devontae Adams was the man, a top two wide receiver performance on the week.
10:19So I guess my question to you is we know what Devontae Adams can do as the isolated number one wide receiver
10:26on this team when there's literally no depth behind him.
10:30So, Matt, the big fancy question is obviously you're going to start Adams as a wide receiver two or a wide receiver three.
10:38But just what are the expectations once Pukunukua does return to this lineup?
10:42Yeah, I mean, at that point, it goes back to being sort of a up and down volatile play.
10:49But I wonder, like, when is Pukunukua going to be 100% this football season?
10:53Like, is it going to be soon? Is it going to be later in the year?
10:59And I mean, Adams still looks awesome. And it's just like route running keeps you young forever.
11:05He is certainly still all the tabs, has all the tricks in the bag there.
11:10And he's running as like a pure outside receiver, despite the fact that he's 33, going to be 34 in December.
11:17His moves off the line of scrimmage were excellent.
11:20And Stafford's just like straight drop back out of center.
11:23Not as much like the play action stuff at this point.
11:27Really excellent game from Devontae Adams who can still win.
11:31I mean, some of those routes, like one of the touchdowns, the corner route was, you know, against Colton Hood, rookie receiver
11:38going against, or rookie cornerback, excuse me, going against Devontae Adams.
11:42That's a tough assignment. But yeah, I feel like there's more to get out of Adams than just what we saw last
11:49year, where he is definitely a more limited player than he was in his prime.
11:55There's no doubt about that. But, you know, some of the dig routes and the post routes and the go routes, he
12:02could still run those at a pretty high rate in 2025.
12:06And we saw on Monday night as well. Like he can definitely still get that done.
12:11So I don't know that it's going to ever be anything other than just like when Pukenaku is on the field, we
12:19get the ball to him every way possible. But I think it's I think it's open to the Rams if they want to take that.
12:27Yeah, because Hayden, we talked about this in the wide receiver ranking show ahead of week two, that in week one.
12:35And again, we're talking tiny samples here, but it kind of goes back to last year splits when Adams was in and
12:42out that Devontae only ran one route in the red zone.
12:46And played only one of six snaps inside the 10 yard line when Pukenaku was healthy back in week one.
12:53And we know that inside the 10 yard line stuff is so vital for Devontae Adams.
12:58I mean, we saw it last night where a called run is bailed by Matthew Stafford.
13:04And so it's just a one on one fade.
13:07And that is a layup. It's been that way with Stafford.
13:11It's been that way with Aaron Rodgers. It's been with every quarterback that Devontae Adams has had.
13:16So I guess my question is. We have the ceiling play of when Adams is the isolated wide receiver.
13:23Then we have recently seen the ceiling play of when Adams has been passed by in that role by Pukenaku.
13:30And then we get the red zone targets with him.
13:33And if kind of both are exchanging them and sharing them, I'm not saying it caps each other's ceilings, but it kind
13:41of changes the pushing the chips all in for either one of them.
13:45Does that make sense? Yeah, I totally get it.
13:48But I think just the big thing here is like figuring out exactly this Pukenaku injury, because I didn't love the way
13:56that McVay talked about that on the mic. And like this does seem pretty close to the injury that he was dealing with in training camps.
14:05Like I think we just need to like first like start there about the exact health status of Pukenaku.
14:11And I think with Devontae Adams, what's been so interesting from last year and then obviously in this last game here between the 20s, he's a downfield.
14:20There's only a couple of players last year with a higher A dot between the 20s, like Alec Pierce.
14:27And there's somebody else way down the football field.
14:30And then it was Devontae Adams. Like that was like a concern is that if he's not getting the easy button targets
14:37and then he's not going to play at the goal line, that's where he becomes a little bit more volatile.
14:44But if he's the only guy out there and he's just going to get fed 200 air yards in a game and
14:52he still looks like this early in the season, like we absolutely should be ranking him very aggressive.
14:58I think he was all the way up to like my wide receiver seven last week once Pukenaku was ruled out.
15:05And they also like to kind of change what they were doing a lot more like 11 personnel than maybe I was expecting there.
15:13And there's like using Terrence Ferguson as like a slot receiver in some capacities.
15:18And when they did go heavy, it's only Terrence Ferguson and Devontae Adams out in the route.
15:24And if that's going to be what they're going to be doing on about a third of their drop backs, that's really
15:32easy for Devontae Adams to pay off. Yeah, Matt, the Devontae stuff was amazing.
15:36But with how much this show and many other fancy analysts talked about Terrence Ferguson this summer, we do need to bring him up.
15:45Sure. Because the slant route that he had in this game, to me, accentuated everything that the Rams discussed this summer in
15:52that, as you know, last year, literally half of his routes were 20 plus yards on the field.
15:58He was in the 2-2 Atwell role. And so all summer, this Rams coaching staff said, we need to get more gimmies,
16:06more underneath stuff, more yards off the catch. And while, you know, his hands weren't perfect here in week two, he was
16:13a big part of the passing game. And he had that yards off the catch and then he had the red zone target.
16:21And while Titan might be deep this year, this is also an offense that we want pieces of at every single turn.
16:29And Terrence Ferguson was quite cheap compared to the other pass catchers here.
16:33Yeah, he was dropped a lot in Yahoo leagues last week as well.
16:38Which makes a lot of sense. I was one of the people like that, that had to drop him to pick up
16:45like a kicker or a defense in a league.
16:48You know, it does happen. But he dropped the one pass could have had a even bigger night.
16:54I think there's going to be moments with Terrence Ferguson because he's still a very raw player where he has a little
17:02bit of like the Bambi syndrome running on ice.
17:05I think there's going to be moments with that with him.
17:09But yeah, he ran 40% from the slot in the game on Monday night.
17:13That's basically what he is. He's a movement player for them.
17:17He's going to play multiple alignments. They need him, man.
17:21Like these other guys, Kanata Mumfield, Xavier Smith, you know, they're nice little role.
17:25Yeah. Hey, Tutu had that one little out cut.
17:29Yeah, that was something. He did? Yeah, one little play.
17:32But I mean, for the most part, these are all role players and they need Terrence Ferguson to be the guy that
17:39we kind of hypothesized in the summer. And I mean, I think you see enough proof of concept of it.
17:46I really think like there's enough to get by for this team.
17:50And it'll be interesting when we talk about tight end streamers this week with Terrence Ferguson, the 72% route percentage going against the Broncos this week.
17:59I mean, you would imagine that Devante Adams, who's actually done plenty of battle with Patrick Sertan because they were in the same division.
18:08And, you know, they would draw pretty even on some of those matchups.
18:12But yeah, Ferguson might be the guy that has the better looks here in week three.
18:17I think Terrence Ferguson is the best pickup of going into week three.
18:22I think he's better than the running backs that are available.
18:26I'm, you know, if there's let's say there's like a 10, 20% chance that this puka injury like lingers for longer than they're talking about.
18:34Like this is like sports hernia type of stuff.
18:37Like always makes me nervous. He would be one of the best pickups of the entire year.
18:43And I think just the fact that he did this in week two and like they showed their hand that they want to get him so involved.
18:52Like he's somebody that you can't drop like the rest of the way.
18:57Like there's just there's just way too many outs for Terrence Ferguson to like win tight end, like not finish like the tight end eight.
19:05Like he can be a top three, top four tight end.
19:09So I think he's the number one guy in waivers going to tonight.
19:14And even if you have one of the big producers like, I mean, anywhere from Trey McBride to Sam Laporta to Juwan
19:21Johnson, I even think you can pick up someone like Terrence Ferguson and maybe play him in the slot as we get,
19:29excuse me, the flex as we get deeper and deeper throughout the season.
19:33Because we know a lot of these wide receivers when we're running heavier personnel that limits the number again of wide receivers
19:41that are kind of options for us. And his role did change.
19:45It's not just like the depth of the target.
19:48As Nathan Yonke pointed out, Terrence Ferguson played just as many snaps out of 11 personnel on first and second downs in
19:55this game on Monday night as he played all of last season.
19:59So last year was all the 13 personnel stuff.
20:02And so if we're adding the 11 personnel stuff on top of it, that's fantastic.
20:08Just a quick word on Kyron Williams. Guys, the formula worked once again.
20:12If the Rams scored 28 points, he likely scored a touchdown.
20:16If they're trailing, he plays 75% of snaps. I thought it was great, Harmon, that he wasn't punished for the fumble.
20:23McVay talked about afterwards that he learns from that immediately versus other coaches that, you know, try to punish them and try
20:30to, you know, say, oh, you're going to do it again.
20:34If the odds aren't in your favor, he had a touch immediately on the first snap of the next drive.
20:41Yeah. And all the Blake Corum bros got just enough at the end of the game to see like, see, this, this
20:49guy should be getting the football more. It doesn't matter.
20:52Like Sean McVay loves Kyron Williams. He always will.
20:55And I'm with you, Josh. I can't stand the.
20:58All right. The guy fumbled. Let's take him out.
21:01Like, really, let's make sure he definitely isn't overthinking it.
21:05You know, this is just like general psychology. You hammer this to home.
21:09You're going to be thinking about that fumble and the fumbles keep coming.
21:14So, you know, it doesn't really matter. Kyron Williams is a good back.
21:18I'm with you. Like, just keep rolling. Yeah. With that said, Blake Corum looks awesome.
21:23Oh, yeah. So it's really nice to have two running backs out there.
21:28And the Rams, as you guys said, are facing the Broncos.
21:31They're only projected for 23 and a half points this week.
21:35But there's plenty of time to talk about that.
21:38All right. We'll go back to Sunday night football.
21:41Kansas City Chiefs are up first. Hayden, simple question.
21:44So is the passing offense just Travis Kelsey all over again?
21:48I mean, you're not wrong with that. And there's like some real evidence that is actually working.
21:54Nate Tice had the miles per hour for Travis Kelsey.
21:57And in 2026, way faster than he was in the previous two or three years since he started dating and then marrying Taylor Swift.
22:06And then I looked at it yards after catch wise through two weeks.
22:10He's number one in the NFL, the number one in the NFL.
22:14So he's always just going to have the feel with Patrick Mahomes.
22:18And obviously they did that once again out of structure a couple of times there.
22:23They're going to give him a couple of cheapo touchdowns here.
22:27And then I just think he looks in better shape right now.
22:31And then looking ahead in the next week, they're projected for 28 and a half points.
22:37Like, how is he not a top five tight end when they're projected for that many points?
22:43He's tied in eight in usage and everything looks amazing.
22:46I mean, we the three of us all got married here within the last four or five years.
22:52Right. I mean, you know this. Yeah. Congratulations to all three of us.
22:57What a miracle. You know, this, you get in good shape for your wedding.
23:01You know, you get in good shape for that wedding.
23:05And I'm going to go ahead and guess that there was more people, more eyeballs on the Swift Kelsey wedding than the Norris Winks Harmon weddings.
23:14And, you know, you get in good shape and he's just letting it ride into the regular season.
23:20Okay. He's into football season. Now he's in shape, the whole deal.
23:24And I mean, he does really look good. He doesn't look as fast as he did in his youth.
23:30Of course, that's impossible. But the like fluidity and flexibility for him and like the initial burst, I think, is there.
23:38And it's showing up in terms of them getting him the quick targets like targets fewer than five air yards so far
23:45this year for the Kansas City Chiefs. It's 11 for Kenneth Walker, eight for Travis Kelsey, six for Xavier Worthy, four for
23:53Emmitt Johnson, two for Rasheed Rice, four other guys have won.
23:56I mean, they're trying to get that ball to him and let him run after the catch.
24:02And he's winning after the catch as well. So it makes sense.
24:06And I think he's one of the best bargains at tight end.
24:10It looks like right now. Hayden, we have rankings episodes later this week, but this does leave a bit of a conundrum.
24:18Obviously, you're starting Ken Walker, the third put a pin in that one.
24:22You're starting Travis Kelsey. But in a game where they're projected for nearly 29 points, is that one where you can take
24:30the leap on Rasheed Rice in your flex? Is that one you can take the leap on someone like Taequann Thornton or Xavier Worthy?
24:38Or is this truly, as we move forward, the only confident plays are Mahomes, K9 and Kelsey?
24:44I think once you get to like the wide receiver three range, you kind of sort by projected points.
24:50And that's what I did with like Rashad Bateman, for example.
24:54And I think that Rasheed Rice is going to be at the very top of that.
25:00So like in my early rankings, it's like wide receiver 22.
25:03But this is it's very clearly a different role for him that he's not going to be like the sit and zone.
25:11And we're going to spread them out type of player that he was in the last three three seasons when he he
25:19was targeted on 26 percent of his routes since 2023.
25:22And then this year, it's 10 percent targets per route.
25:25Only a couple screens in there when that was a really big part of his game as well.
25:32I don't think that he looks all the way right either.
25:35Like you can see that when you know, like opens up and that last play of regulation when he didn't try to
25:43pitch the ball out and he's kind of running in the field.
25:47He didn't look that explosive to me. That said, like this seems to be projected for a lot of points.
25:54He's going to get better and probably smoother as the season progresses.
25:58But for like a third round pick like this looks like one of the worst picks that you could have made in that range.
26:06I think that he's still startable. But we're talking about the wide receiver 66 in usage through two weeks.
26:13And this was easy to see coming to for everything we just have been talking about where Rice is also playing outside
26:20more 62 percent versus 48 percent in from 2024 to 2025 because they're playing with more of these heavy personnel groupings.
26:27That's a big part of it for sure. So he's naturally going to be forced more outside.
26:33Also, the guy rehabbed his knee injury from freaking jail.
26:37Of course, he doesn't look all the way right.
26:40And like I've I mean, I've never been a fan of his work against man press coverage, but he has always been a really good zone beater.
26:49And, you know, he's not been a good zone beater so far, even to the point that like you see a couple
26:56of times like this is why it's again. It's tough to talk about Rasheed Rice versus the production on the whole deal.
27:04But like when he's having his big games previously, he would just literally sit there and zone like put his hands up
27:11like we're like we're just playing catch, you know, with him and Patrick Holmes and Mahomes is throwing it to him.
27:19But now the Holmes, because the looks are a little bit better down the field because the way the run game's operating,
27:26he's actually looking further downfield and the passes are hitting.
27:30I mean, this Chiefs offense is fun to watch again, guys, and it's a much more enjoyable product than what we've got recently.
27:37Yeah, it looks a little different. I will say, Matt, the thing that is predictable is that Kenneth Walker, the third should
27:45have been the first round pick in all your fancy leagues.
27:49I know a lot of you out there watching this show have drafted K-9 at the one to turn this year.
27:56And in any other situation, Hayden, I might have, you know, expressed some frustration when Andy Reid was asked about Emmitt Johnson
28:03and if his workload could grow moving forward. And him saying, yes, basically, we need to get him more touches, which, by
28:11the way, on like 14 touches, we already know Emmitt Johnson is a dude in the NFL.
28:17But, Hayden, when you just take a step back, I don't want people to get frustrated by this revelation because when you
28:24look at what K-9 is doing, he's getting 31 and a half opportunities right now, averaging 23 and a half carries and eight targets.
28:32Like that is basically unsustainable. So if we send five or six of those in a different direction, I am perfectly happy,
28:40Hayden, if we drafted Kenneth Walker, the third and a chief's offense behind this offensive line, the figurehead, the franchise altering player,
28:48and he averages a cool 25 touches per game.
28:51Yeah, through two weeks. This is prime Christian McCaffrey usage.
28:54So, like, we don't need prime Christian McCaffrey usage to pay off.
28:58There's there's room for this to go go down a little bit.
29:0225.7 expected points. And he's been a model breaker for quite a while.
29:07I think I would take him at the 102.
29:10Maybe you can convince me on some of the wide receivers.
29:14But, like, Bijan's going to be projected for 10 fewer points per game than the chiefs will.
29:19And then, you know, obviously you have Jonathan Taylor.
29:22That's kind of like a separate discussion there. But I think that he's in the mix to be drafted that high.
29:30And my last note, maybe, Matt, you can help me out here.
29:34The Xavier Worthy stuff, it's not working like with like the real stuff, but they are throwing him a ton of screens.
29:41And Raji Rice is the one blocking for Xavier Worthy on those screens.
29:46So, like, Worthy is one of these kind of like in my model.
29:50He's a buy low candidate, wide receiver 20 in usage.
29:54He's a very frustrating player, obviously. But if he's going to be like kind of winning either down the football field and
30:01then getting a couple screens per game, like I think like he should be rostered every single league.
30:07And he's somebody that, like, if you had to in bye weeks when they're projected for a bunch of points, he's becoming maybe a little bit more interesting.
30:17Yeah, that's like about as nice as you could possibly say for Worthy.
30:21But, I mean, if you're just talking about physics, who do you want blocking for the other?
30:27The maybe allegedly 165-pound player or the guy who weighs, you know, 200-plus pounds?
30:32I mean, I think that kind of makes sense.
30:35And, yeah, Rice only has two screen targets throughout the course of the season so far through two weeks.
30:41And that's not what we're used to. Like this is the problem of this is the issue with the Worthy-Rice tandem is
30:49that Rice is always eaten on the Mickey Mouse stuff.
30:52But you also have to roll cater to Xavier Worthy, too, to make it work.
30:58Again, it's like selfish. But, God, I really wish they just had one real deal.
31:03Like I can funnel the ball to this guy, wide receiver.
31:06Could they make a move for someone? Could they make a move?
31:11Well, I'm Jerry Judy. He's available. He's got to be available, right?
31:15I know everybody wants to like Marv, BTJ. I'm like, ah, the guy that's probably going to get moved is Jerry Judy.
31:22Okay. Let's talk about Indianapolis Colts because, Matt, I want to send it right back to you.
31:28One of your favorite wide receivers to talk about and every single fantasy analyst favorite wide receiver to talk about.
31:35Josh Downs had arguably the best game of his career in terms of two wide receiver set route running and production on the week.
31:43He finishes wide receiver 23 in half PPR. And, Matt, I think that this will only be leaned into more because of Alec Pierce's absence.
31:52That will likely mean Laquan Shredwell will play as the ex downfield player and then maybe Darius Slayton if he can catch up.
31:59So what do you see from Josh Downs? What are you expecting on a weekly basis now with Josh Downs?
32:06Yeah, Darius Slayton, one of the OG actual sacrificial ex receivers when I started thinking about that as a term.
32:13So I'm not worried about that when it comes to Josh Downs.
32:17He ran around on 71% of the dropbacks with two or fewer wide receivers on the field.
32:23He previously averaged 8% in the first three seasons of his NFL career.
32:28He ran around on 92, 93% of the dropbacks overall.
32:31He had never been higher than 76% in any season previously.
32:35I mean, he's like a 60-40 slot player. I think this is totally right.
32:39He's winning on some quick slants, some routes out of motion as well, which again gets him to free releases.
32:46But he also critically got three targets on kind of these bigger outbreaking routes, at least farther than 10 yards down the field.
32:54That's the part that they're going to have to continue to keep pushing that button because, I mean, Keenan Allen, that's not going to happen.
33:03Laquan Treadwell, probably not going to be a high-volume player there.
33:07Like, Tyler Warren is basically living in the flats and the underneath areas.
33:11So they need to continue to hit the Josh Downs button on these outbreaking routes.
33:16And I think he can win. I've always been a fan of Downs in that way.
33:22So I just think it's only going to go up from here.
33:26And like this Colts team, they're going to be using a ton of play action, getting the ball out of Daniel Jones' hands.
33:34I think that's going to lead them into their best separator, which is pretty clearly by a long shot, Josh Downs, at this point.
33:42Totally agree on that. Lots of stuff off of motion, like you said.
33:46I think the slot work is really important, too.
33:49They're kind of like sacrificing Keenan Allen in some of the more difficult situations there.
33:54And those aren't going to work. Like you said, the two X receivers in a rotation, that's not going to work either.
34:02He's had five games with Alec Pierce either out or only seeing one target like he did in this past game.
34:09He has a 24% target share in those games.
34:12I think the other note for the Colts, and this just goes for everybody, that defense is just terrible.
34:19Their linebacker play in general, they're just trying to figure out what they even want to do schematically.
34:25They just don't have enough good players in the back half there.
34:29So there's going to be moments where Josh Downs is going to be really relied on in a PPR scheme-y type of way.
34:37But he's just a much better football player than a lot of those guys that have eaten.
34:43So I think he's firmly a wide receiver three moving forward.
34:46I think there is a chance that he could be a wide receiver two in full PPR.
34:52Theoretically, Hayden, if the Josh Downs-led Indianapolis Colts play the Houston Texans in week three, would you still view him as the wide receiver two slash three?
35:01I think you have to view him still as a wide receiver three.
35:06Even the best defense, we've seen this with the Texans, even the best defenses still allow points through the air.
35:13And I think that he's, Josh Downs is pretty easy to kind of cater towards.
35:18And Shane Steichen's so smart. And the Tyler Warren stuff, it's still just the same four plays to Tyler Warren.
35:25They really have not expanded that beyond that. And I think that they're probably realizing that Josh Downs, when they need nine
35:32yards, the ball is going to go to Josh Downs a lot more than it will anybody else in the offense.
35:39Yeah. I still trust Shane Steichen. You know, he's been, I think, dealt some difficult cards as of late, like the just
35:47movement of, I understand Adonai Mitchell probably wouldn't have maybe blossomed or spread his wings on the Colts as he is doing
35:54to the degree he is doing with the New York Jets.
35:58And then they move Michael Pittman and then the Alec Pierce non-surgery, then surgery.
36:03Then now this is an aggravation. And now he's not having surgery again.
36:07That like, Adonai Mitchell, Matt, would have been like a perfect replacement.
36:12I know. Would he have not? So I understand why they made that move.
36:16Kind of. I mean, Sauce Gardner with two first round picks is absolutely ludicrous when we look back on it in the state of this defense.
36:25offense, but it's just there's not enough going on right now for this team to hit the highs.
36:31Obviously, he's the number one scoring offense of last year.
36:35And I still believe in him as a coach.
36:38And I think Daniel Jones is playing above average football at this moment.
36:42And obviously, once they get to the red zone, you have Jonathan Taylor, you have Tyler Warren.
36:48But I'm a bit nervous for this team when they face like the biggest defenses.
36:53Whereas last season, when they were at their best, they were putting it on some of the best defenses.
37:00Yeah, I do think this offense is going to feel really tight.
37:04Like they're going to have to get explosive plays from the run game because it's probably not going to happen consistently through the air.
37:12I will note Josh Downs has two games over 100 yards in his career.
37:17One of them was against the Houston Texans in 2024 because like, again, they do so much to motion him around and
37:24get him away from some of the perimeter corners there.
37:28And like normally, I don't love the player versus defense stat.
37:32But because the Texans have been pretty static in terms of like same coaches, a lot of the same players, I think
37:39it does make a little bit of sense there.
37:42He also had 60 yards in the week 18 game at the end of last season.
37:48I do think, though, Josh, like you bringing up the 80 Mitchell trade and just I mean, the sauce Garner trade in
37:55and of itself was an emotional trade by Chris Ballard.
37:5980 Mitchell also was an emotional trade away there.
38:02They were like basically rage traded him. I do think this is a team that definitely could make yet another like emotional move at the deadline.
38:11Like, again, I'll say they could totally be the team that trades for Mark.
38:15It's like Reggie Wayne is his coach bringing him home.
38:19Chris Ballard is absolutely completely desperate. I mean, this team is this team hired Jeff Saturday off the ESPN booth for the good vibes.
38:27You think they you think they wouldn't make the Marv trade just for like a good couple months of press.
38:34I think it could happen. You know, Matt, I was thinking about this.
38:38If Jim Irsay was still around, he did make a, you know, move for a former bus top five pick in Trent Richardson.
38:46And maybe he would have done the same thing here with Marvin Harrison Jr.
38:51But, you know, I think his daughter maybe has a bit more zoom out perspective on on some of this stuff.
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39:42The crown is yours. All right. Let's talk about the LA Chargers.
39:46Hey, and I posted a highlight reel or let's say a low light reel.
39:51It's a comedy of errors. And, you know, everyone wants to point the finger at one person.
39:57The finger should be pointed at about seven or 11 different players and then maybe a coach on top of it in Mike McDaniel.
40:05There's a few news items that hit on here.
40:08David Njoku and Charlie Kolar are going to injury reserve.
40:11They buried Aranda Gadsden on the depth chart this offseason because of his poor blocking.
40:17I would say rightfully so. But now, Hayden, they have no one to turn to and also no one to turn to
40:24other than Latin McConkie to actually catch passes. So how are you handling this Chargers team that we overdrafted and now are looking to potentially bench?
40:33Well, I think when you lose David Njoku and Charlie Kolar, like that's only going to make their problems worse.
40:40Like they're struggling in pass protection and running the football.
40:43I mean, we watched what Aranda Gadsden did as a blocker, as a rookie.
40:48Like that's why he was behind those guys all in camp.
40:52And then I was looking at, all right, who else do they have on the practice squad?
40:58They have an undrafted free agent rookie from Wyoming.
41:01And then the next guy, it's Patrick Herbert. That's Justin's younger brother.
41:05That is currently who they might have to bring up is Justin's younger brother.
41:10So things aren't going well. It's predictably the interior.
41:13I think that their center is just like too weak to start right now.
41:17Cole Strange has been a problem. Joe all like pre-snap has been a total mess.
41:23And Max Crosby got him a couple of times.
41:26A defensive tackle got him a couple of times as well.
41:29I think Slater's been a little bit more up and down.
41:33And then Justin Herbert himself has just been missing throws.
41:37And then also just like chucking the ball into coverage when you shouldn't be doing that on top of that.
41:43So there's not a positive takeaway. Nate Tice went up and down their coaching staff.
41:49And was just ripping them on football 301. If you guys want to go listen to that.
41:54Like going coach by coach. It was like, I know this guy.
41:58This guy stinks up and down the list. So I don't feel very good about this right now.
42:05Paraphrasing. Oh man. It's so bad. The only thing that's good about this team is like Glad McConkie.
42:11You look at the EPA. I know JJ had this stat that like they're the second worst offense in the NFL when he's off the field behind only.
42:20I believe the Cooper Rush Atlanta Falcons are a top seven unit when he's on the field from EPA standpoint.
42:27That obviously isn't everything. But I mean, yeah. And like the combination of offensive efficiency metrics I like to look at.
42:34They are the third worst team in the NFL right now.
42:38I'll be ahead of only the Steelers, which I'm so glad I'm not on.
42:43I mean, good luck to you guys when you get to that section.
42:47There's like, that's just a mess to clean up.
42:50And the Falcons, like those are the two offenses worse than them.
42:55That's where the Chargers are. Not despite the fact that they're basically, you know, theoretically, schematically pushing all the buttons that, you
43:02know, people want to see their second in motion, their first enduring snap motion, ninth in play action.
43:08Too much. It's like almost too much. Right. And I mean, just like, do we need all of this stuff at this point?
43:16Because the operational part of it just looks like a complete disaster.
43:20So like, does this get, does this get better with time?
43:24Is that, is that the question here for this team?
43:27I mean, it, it has to, because hopefully they practice from, you know, Monday to Saturday every single week.
43:34And right now the order of operations of everything, again, it's too much window dressing.
43:39It's, it's doing too much. But then adding onto this though, when things do go correctly, it's, it's what we've pointed to
43:47where it's a David and Joe coup drop that leads to an interception.
43:51It's a Quentin Johnson drop and a whole shot on a good throw.
43:55It's a Brennan Thompson drop on a crossing route.
43:59It's Hey, a second phase play. Cause Justin Herbert's escapes.
44:02I'm going to try to hurt a Brennan Thompson.
44:05And here comes a run day Gatson playing like a Rivas Island cornerback and swatting it away before it gets to him.
44:13And then, Oh, we have the running game on top of this, which has been Mike McDaniel special over the last couple of years.
44:21And Omar and Hampton has a fumble and back to back weeks.
44:25And to be honest, keep Mitchell was fast, but Keaton Mitchell just falls over in first contact.
44:31If he's breathed on, he's too small and he gets taken straight down.
44:35So Matt, I think my point is they don't have anything to lean on completely like to, to fall on and say,
44:43Hey, this is what we can focus in. And this is our identity for this week because Trevor pinning coming in and
44:50starting at one of the interior spots at guard.
44:53Like that's going to be rough. Ben Solak pointed to this out on one of his pieces that last year, the dolphins
45:0113.5% explosive run rate, uh, led the NFL. The chargers are down to 9.1% and 0.2 yards before contact, which is third worst among offenses across the NFL.
45:10So, I mean, Hey, the simple question is what is Mike McDaniel doing well right now?
45:16And the answer is nothing. The answer is nothing.
45:19And I just think that the blocking up front, like just, it's just not going to get fixed.
45:25And I think that the timing, like a good example of this is just like, they have a fullback that knows the
45:33system and is just not getting it done. Like everything just feels like it's a beat off.
45:38And then I think some of the issue just to, uh, uh, circle in on a Martin Hampton is his just like ability to find the cutback.
45:48It's kind of two dimensional and like one, like you have to have the vision for it.
45:53And then also, you also have to like, have the patient, the ability to turn.
45:59And he just doesn't have that. It's like watching Devon H in that role than Hampton do is like two totally different backs.
46:06You want Hampton working downhill, but they don't have the interior alignment.
46:11Like you can't do Cole strains and, uh, Jake Slater, uh, slaughter, uh, doing duo runs.
46:16Like that's just not going to work. So I don't know what they're going to do here.
46:22This seems going to be like, you know, throwing the ball to lad McConkie a bunch.
46:27Hampton will have some like big permitter runs that actually do hit from time to time.
46:33But I think like the consistency, like this would not be, it would not be surprising to me if this is a
46:40team that's like bottom five, bottom 10 and like three and outs, because I just don't think they're going to be able
46:48to have any form of, of consistency at all.
46:51Yeah. And what we've talked about is their schedule.
46:54This should have been the easiest part of the season and just, you know, the next four games, it's the Broncos chiefs Rams and Texans defenses.
47:03So yeah, I mean, lad wasn't playing third downs in the first half and then was playing third downs in the second
47:10half and was the only dependable player to find zones and sit in them and catch the football consistently.
47:17And so we really need lad to be like a 85% snap player from here on out for this team to have
47:24any chance of like chaining plays together in order to sustain drives.
47:29Um, all right. Let's talk about Chicago bears. I mean, massive changes for them too.
47:34We have Caleb Williams nearly running in a touchdown to win the game, going down with a hamstring injury.
47:40Then we assume because he goes into the game and finishes it out that Tyson Baygent is going to be the starting quarterback.
47:48Yet we wake up on Tuesday morning and Tyson Baygent is in concussion protocol and Matt Harmon, the bears quarterback three is case Keenum.
47:56And now he has to support the wide receiver 49 in Roma Dunze wide receiver 50 and Luther Burden, the wide receiver
48:0429 in Cleef Raymond and Colson Loveland has one catch for three yards.
48:08So are you thrilled that case Keenum is the person and has the responsibility of turning around all of our fancy seasons?
48:16The last time case came through a pass was Christmas Eve of 2023 in a game against the Cleveland Browns when he played with the Texans.
48:25Uh, and he averaged 3.6 yards per attempt. So I'm not feeling great, Josh.
48:29I'm actually feeling pretty bad about like a case Keenum start in the year 2026.
48:35That's definitely not what I bargained for, for sure.
48:38And there's a lot going on with this bears offense.
48:41I think they got, I think Ben Johnson got outcoached in week two.
48:46And I love Ben Johnson. He's one of my two or three favorite play callers in the NFL, but like watching that
48:53game live a little bit and then certainly watching it back, I just think kind of outsmarted himself with some of the
49:01Colson Loveland using him as an inline blocker, uh, a ton.
49:04You know, when you look at the rate overall, he ran around on 71% of the dropbacks when they got an 11 personnel.
49:12Um, he was still, you know, out there or heavy personnel groupings.
49:16He was out there a decent bit and 11 personnel.
49:20He's just, it was a lot of blocking for Colson level, which, you know, he's a good blocker, but I think you
49:27want him out there in the route and being more of a safety blanket.
49:32Like Khalif Raymond has been their safety blanket so far.
49:35He had four catches when Caleb Williams was under pressure in week two, and he was under pressure a ton with all the blitz looks.
49:44Um, Luther burden. I don't think number one, doesn't look all that great to me.
49:49He's probably still coming back from missing a ton of time.
49:53Uh, Roma Duneza is also coming back from missing a little bit of time too, but he at least got back to being a full-time player.
50:02Uh, I know again, we joked about this on Sunday.
50:05The mob was going to be coming for Hayden, uh, because he called Luther burden, a part-time player.
50:11He was even more right in, in week two, uh, Luther burden ran a route on.
50:17And just 29% of the plays when there were fewer than three receivers on the field.
50:22It's, it's just like, is he a hundred percent right now?
50:26I don't know. Cause you would imagine he would be getting some of those layup looks, not Khalif Raymond, but that's not
50:34like his role has changed a decent bit from last year to this year.
50:38I see just one screen to Luther burden this year.
50:42He's not playing nearly as much slot as what I think a lot of people were expecting, but it does make sense.
50:49Like they want Khalif Raymond on the football field.
50:52Like that's the only way he can be on the football field.
50:57So yeah, his eight outs, almost 10 yards down the football field for Luther burden.
51:02So obviously like when you got replacing DJ more basically, like he's, he's basically just his, his routes and alignment is by
51:09and large, just replace CJ more, but playing less.
51:12Yeah. Really, really fast. And I think for this week, when you got a 38 year old quarterback, let's be honest, like
51:20there's no way case Keenum actually wants to play football right now.
51:24Like he, he, as quarterback three, you want to be a coach and they're facing the Eagles.
51:30So you can't start anybody aside from, I would say Deandre Swift.
51:34You can't start any of these guys, but I do think we should just keep looking at the numbers for Roma.
51:41Doonsay is going to be a hundred percent snap player.
51:44He's pretty much that in week two and then Luther burden versus Khalif Raymond.
51:49And I think that like what you said, Matt on the Colson level and stuff, just like too much blocking.
51:56Like they still do like some isolated stuff to Colson Loveland, but I could use even more than that.
52:03Cause that's what they were doing during that playoff stretch when they would looked unstoppable for a little bit.
52:09And I have not seen that quite as much this year.
52:13Yeah. 18 and a half points that the bears are projected for here in week three.
52:18That's the same as the Tennessee Titans. And it's tied for the third lowest across the NFL at this moment.
52:25Yeah. I mean, I was going to ask you guys, Hey, how can we fix this?
52:31You know, like how can we fix the Colson Loveland stuff?
52:34You kind of outlined that. How can we fix the Luther burden stuff?
52:39Maybe he's just not healthy. And then Roma Doonsay in this offense has kind of always been a bit volatile since the
52:46second half of last season and to now it's just a lot of downfield things.
52:52And I also believe that the Kalief Raymond production is somewhat tied to the two defenses that they played in the opening two weeks.
53:00Whereas, you know, the Panthers have really good outside corners.
53:03So he works over the middle of the field.
53:06He's also the quick access player versus, you know, the extended plays, all that type of stuff.
53:12And then we talked about it with, you know, Brian Flores and his defense where you muddy everything up and you play zone in the back half.
53:21And so there's still that area over the middle of the field.
53:25So I'm hoping at least truly one of these pass catchers makes good on the value because where we're at now, Matt,
53:33it feels like it would be wish casting despite what week one looked like and the amount of points that they scored
53:40that all three of them are going to return value.
53:44Yeah, I mean, it's just it's not going to happen with Case Keenum.
53:48So, I mean, I think Bajent would be OK.
53:51You know, I think Bajent's a solid backup quarterback, and he had a couple of moments when he was in the game,
53:59did get the ball to Luther Burton, got the ball.
54:02Downfield on a deep corner route to Roma Dunze, which was a nice throw and a nice catch from him.
54:09I think that the quarterback injury is really throwing a wrench in all of this.
54:14Obviously, that's not like a very insightful take, because I think otherwise I'd be pretty close to no panic on a lot
54:22of these players and like it would just naturally come around.
54:26But the fact that we again, we're going to get probably one case Keenum start, maybe a Bajent starter to that certainly does throw a wrench in things.
54:35But, you know, once Caleb Williams looks like he's going to be coming back, I'll be trying to buy on probably all
54:43of these guys as long as again, Burden starts to play more.
54:47That's the one I at least am the most concerned about so far.
54:51Hayden, Colson Loveland was drafted as the tight end three.
54:55I believe on Yahoo, Luther Burden was around the wide receiver 25 or 23.
54:59Roma Dunze was a couple spots after that. But pick one name that you're most confident in for the rest of the season.
55:07It'd be Colson Loveland. But at the same time, the rest of the tight end group behind them, they all look really good.
55:15Like almost every tight end has kind of been a win so far.
55:20And I think that's made like this like elite separation kind of bargain that you're hoping for has kind of disintegrated on top of that.
55:28We're a week away, maybe two weeks away for actually buying low.
55:32Like don't buy low this week. Wait for the numbers to come in and then buy low.
55:38Maybe going into week four, Matt, who would your pick be?
55:42Yeah, probably Loveland or Rome, but it just depends on what your receiver looks like.
55:47Let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings. They're up next.
55:50And Kyler Murray is back to the starting lineup.
55:53We only got a handful, a little more snaps of that of Kyler Murray in week one.
55:59It included an interception and kind of a bit of chaos.
56:03I mean, he was kind of running around with his head cut off.
56:07Hayden. So what are you expecting with Kyler Murray immediately returning to this lineup?
56:12We have still seen that Justin Jefferson is the primary piece that everything is revolving around.
56:17Is that how it's going to be? Or can Kyler potentially open up a little bit more?
56:23Yeah, I think Kyler is going to play much better than Carson Wentz will.
56:28And I'm not really looking into the 10 snaps that he had as a Viking.
56:33I just looking at the whole history of Kevin O'Connell and the numbers that they put up.
56:39And I think that Kyler Murray has played good ball for too long to not have success in this offense.
56:46So I didn't really have a whole lot of notes here.
56:50I think my primary note was just on Aaron Jones.
56:53Same. Because he played 90% of the snaps going into halftime.
56:57He picked up an injury to his knee like just for a quick second.
57:02He was like slamming his helmet to the ground.
57:05But then he came back in. They just don't trust anybody else out there.
57:09And I don't think that's going to change. I think they're going to ride him for as long as he can.
57:17He had 10 and a half expected half PPR points in this one.
57:2190% of the snaps from 2024 onward without Jordan Mason.
57:24He's the RB 20 on RB 13 usage. Like this is exactly what an RB two looks like.
57:31He's not the same level player. I also don't think that he's completely washed either.
57:36And then they are going to face the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense, which has been getting shredded by everyone, including Deshaun Watson.
57:43So I think I feel very comfortable with Aaron Jones, obviously on top of Justin Jefferson.
57:49Anything to add, Matt? Yeah, I really just want to see what it looks like.
57:54One, obviously with Kyler Murray, of course, John Jennings also missed week two.
57:58Sounds like he's going to be back for week three.
58:02That did change a lot of the offense where they got into a ton of two tight end sets because they, you
58:09know, they're not really trying to play like Ty Felton or anything like that on offense.
58:15So Jordan Addison is the guy maybe is the most interesting to talk about.
58:20Like, is there anything from Jordan Addison that we can get?
58:23I naturally think that he's a very boom bust player.
58:27And I also think Kevin O'Connell is a very boom bust offense.
58:31And I think Kyler Murray is a very boom bust quarterback.
58:35So my sense on Addison was always it was going to be very a ton of variants.
58:40And I'm not like I think the way that the Bucs have been picked apart so far this year has been just
58:48picking on linebackers kind of in the underneath there.
58:51I mean, obviously, the long catch and run from Boston is the play that got the highlights from week two, but it
58:59was a lot of like quick outs to Boston as well.
59:02And I'm not sure that that I mean, that's definitely not Jordan Addison's game.
59:07It's probably going to be a big Justin Jefferson outing, I would guess.
59:12Yeah, that's a big thing here that Kyler gets returned against that Bucs defense and try to invest so much in the past rush.
59:20And they have very little of it so far.
59:23And yet the markets aren't really a big believer of this offense at the moment, just 22 points compared to, you know, what the Bucs have allowed recently.
59:32So we'll see if Kyler can, you know, shove that projection, you know, where.
59:37All right, let's talk about the New Orleans Saints.
59:40Calvin Banks left tackle out for 10 weeks per Nick Underhill.
59:44That's a big injury for this team because this offensive line was supposed to be a strength for them.
59:51But so far, it's been the passing attack. Like Hayden Crystal Lave, the wide receiver, five in points per game.
59:57Devon Veli, the wide receiver, 15. Juwan Johnson for the tight end, 17.
60:02And I won't mention where the running backs rank for your sanity.
60:06Yeah, I mean, this offense feels pretty clean to me and that Crystal Lave is no doubt about a top 10.
60:13It doesn't matter who they're facing because they drop back.
60:17They're still first in neutral pace there. I think maybe the two players I want to talk about were Juwan Johnson and then obviously the running back rotation.
60:26But stick with the pass game, the Juwan Johnson stuff.
60:30Like this guy rules after the catch and he can dunk on some players as well.
60:35This game, he had a couple of moments where he was like beating defenders to the sideline for chunk gains.
60:42He was hurtling guys. There was a moment where there's four Baltimore Ravens like circled around him.
60:48He somehow got out of that, hit the gas and nearly scored a touchdown.
60:52There was no reason for Juwan Johnson to have that much yards after the catch.
60:58He's just like a very good player. And I think that he's the second best player in the pass game.
61:04I think that Baylor is like an interesting compliment.
61:08But Juwan Johnson's like, I think, hashtag good. And he's been kind of like pretty relevant in every single Tyler Shuck game.
61:15So there's a lot of tight ends that we need to be talking about in fantasy.
61:21But Juwan Johnson absolutely should be. He's the tight end 10 on tight end six usage.
61:26Yeah. Juwan Johnson is good. Do you guys know that Bryce Lance has run 77 routes this year?
61:32Had no clue. I mean, well, he's got five targets on those routes.
61:37So good for a cool 6.5% targets per route.
61:40Yeah, which is I do actually think is important because Valey is kind of a power slot who you can play on the ball.
61:48Obviously, you want Juwan Johnson detached from the formation.
61:51This is definitely a sacrificial X in Bryce Lance because you also want to get Chris Olave in motion as the Z receiver to Olave.
62:00He's been awesome. He's playing like a easy top eight receiver in the NFL.
62:04I don't know that there's that. I mean, look at Mike Thomas even though Michael Thomas, he knows the Saints is nice.
62:12I agree. The Saints is nice so far this year.
62:15Shuck is really good. I'm with Hayden on my notes on Juwan Johnson.
62:20Powerful after the catch and like, you know, just a difficult cover in general.
62:25Valey really wasn't great from a fantasy standpoint in week one, but he got you just enough if you had to go back there.
62:33And he's a good player. And this just really revolves around Olave.
62:37And the way they use Olave is really cool because you get a lot of the like quick stuff, like quick out routes, little quick hitches and things.
62:46But you can basically write it in pen at this point that you're going to get two awesome catches on in breakers from Shuck and Olave.
62:55Those guys have a great chemistry on those patterns in particular.
62:59So I'm buying this Saints offense in the passing of the run game.
63:04You know, that's another question. But I do think in the passing game, like everything that we're getting so far, we can continue to ride.
63:12Yeah. I mentioned that Olave is the wide receiver five in points per game right now.
63:18And I think you might be able to rank him as a top five wide receiver rest of season, if not six or seven.
63:26And that's the lowest we can go here. Hayden, so often when we get to week 12, we think about the overreactions
63:33and conclusions that we made after the first two weeks of the season.
63:38And we laugh at them, right? That feels so long ago.
63:41With that said, should we already be making the conclusions and the sweeping declarations about this running back room and just saying,
63:49hey, you can't start Travis A-chan now and into the future?
63:53We're getting very close to that. I would call him a flex play, but I hope he's not your flex.
64:00And like, that's not what we signed up for in the fourth round here at all.
64:05It's been CJ Donaldson in pass protection that remained true in week two.
64:10And then Alvin Kamara was in the Kendra Miller role, which means like early down, like every other play next to Travis A-chan there.
64:18So he had 5.8 expected half PPR points last week.
64:21I do think that the Kelvin Banks injury is going to matter.
64:25He's one of the more promising left tackles in the league.
64:29The Saints also tush push with Tyler Shuck at the goal line.
64:33And then there was a couple pitch plays where Travis A-chan dropped one of them.
64:38And then the next one they got him to the other side, he kind of bobbles that one because the motion player was lagging a little bit.
64:47Tyler Shuck kind of waited a second. But both pitch plays to Travis A-chan went absolutely nowhere.
64:53So they're trying to get him to the perimeter, but they're not trying to get him up the middle.
65:00And I just don't see how this one's going to go away because they clearly don't think he can pass protect.
65:07And if they want CJ Donaldson to play more, then that means that Alvin Kamara has no choice but to play on early down.
65:15So this is a three-back committee on a team that just wants to pass the ball.
65:21Number one, Alvin Kamara in the Kendra Miller role is a hell of a sentence.
65:26It's true! I know, it's true! It's just this is such a weird team.
65:31Do you guys, what's your theory on this? Do you think they just got Travis into camp and were like, well, this
65:38is not what we thought we were getting out of this?
65:42Or is it a money wire fraud, as I know you guys have both theorized?
65:47Yeah, I mean, I have thought that Travis A-chan has been mostly a volume sponge in his most successful seasons in his NFL career.
65:55And actually last year, Reeves pointed this out. He benefited most of any running back in the NFL, any fantasy football player, in terms of short field touchdowns.
66:05And that's how he got his fantasy points. It was like 40 more than Jonathan Taylor, who was number two.
66:12So, yeah, I mean, he's never been a good pass protector.
66:15So to me, it's not surprising that they are putting someone else in that regard.
66:21What is shocking is that they don't even want him to be out there for like the between the 20s stuff.
66:28Yeah. That's the scary part. Here we are. Here we are.
66:31All right. Denver Broncos. Speaking of running back rotations, let's talk about Jonah Coleman here.
66:37He is a popular pickup when it comes to the waiver wire.
66:41J.K. Dobbins left with a hamstring tweak. We're not exactly sure what the details are with that.
66:47J.K. Dobbins also got stuffed three times at the goal line.
66:50Jonah Coleman ran in his goal line touchdown and then also had to play at the end to slide versus, you know,
66:58pick up an extra 15, 16 yards. Matt, here's my issue.
67:02Okay. With this backfield. We can each like pick our favorites.
67:05Some people are Dobbins types. Some people are R.J.
67:08Harvey types. A lot of you are Jonah Coleman types.
67:12I don't think it's going to matter unless there is only one of these running backs in the backfield and is left over just like R.J.
67:21Harvey was last year. Like, for example, okay. If it's J.K.
67:25Dobbins and Jonah Coleman. Well, Dobbins has most of the between the 20 stuff and maybe some goal line work.
67:31And then Coleman has the receiving work and then maybe some goal line stuff versus if it's Coleman and R.J.
67:38Harvey, then you have Coleman getting between the 20s.
67:41And then the cool last plays inside the 20 yard line go to R.J.
67:46Harvey along with the passing down work. Like the only reason why R.J.
67:51Harvey was so successful for those six, seven, eight weeks in fantasy football last season is because he had everything.
67:57And I don't know if one of these backs is going to have everything at any point this season.
68:04I would be I would be pretty surprised by that, too.
68:08I do think there is a nonzero chance that if Coleman is able to get a start, that he essentially forces J.K.
68:15Dobbins aside and becomes the lead early down back because I don't think Dobbins has looked great this year.
68:22And I I am a fan of Jonah Coleman's game because he's just like the type of running back.
68:28I like where he's a little bit of a coach's catnip where he does all the little things.
68:34Well, he's a good grinder back. I like Jonah Coleman.
68:38I probably I would like to see more of him.
68:41But I am also with you that it might be a little bit difficult for fantasy because like Tyler Bidet plays in
68:49week two and he matters as a pass protector.
68:52Like he's going to just eat snaps from some of these guys because their pass protection with the backs and the tight
68:59ends, but especially the backs in week one was a nightmare.
69:03And they're like, OK, well, we're not doing that again.
69:06We're just going to go ahead and put our best pass protection back out there.
69:12A decent bit, even in the second half of last week's game, he still played on 19 percent of the offensive snaps to Tyler Bidet.
69:20So he's just going to eat a little bit there from the passing down stuff.
69:25And that certainly is the thing that like Coleman was a good pass protecting back in college.
69:31He had a couple of nice reps. I think in week two, he would have to really like push Bidet completely aside,
69:39I think, to become a fantasy factor, even if the other two guys are absent from the game.
69:45I love backfields like this because this is just wasting three roster spots for your league mates.
69:51I never get involved in this type of thing.
69:54Just looking at this like chart right here, perfect example.
69:57The Broncos are 24th and running back usage collectively, and they're chopping that up three different ways.
70:03They're just not going to use these and my film evaluation.
70:07So I watched all these touches. The J.K. Dobbins goal line stuff, the blocking got wrecked on the first two plays.
70:14And then there's a botched snap and pitch from Bo Nix that that play was completely derailed either.
70:20I thought that J.K. Dobbins like looked pretty good.
70:23And then I agree on the Jonah Coleman stuff that like he's like a coach's pet, does everything well.
70:30I think we are really flirting with just like too small, not explosive enough to matter.
70:35I think we're like we're really getting close to that.
70:38So I think that Jonah Coleman is like waiver wire bait and you do not want to pick him up.
70:45And there was also a report that J.K. Dobbins was dealing with cramping, not a soft tissue like injury.
70:52And I think that J.K. Dobbins are going to keep riding him.
70:56So this is this is for hopefully everyone else in your league and not us.
71:01Yeah, look, I just heard a lot this offseason of, hey, if J.K.
71:06Dobbins can just stay healthy, then he can be a good value.
71:10Well, I mean, last year and by the way, no running back has achieved 250 touches attached to a Sean Payton offense ever in his entire career.
71:19J.K. Dobbins was on pace to do that last year and was on pace to have a career season.
71:25And yet because of his lack of receiving role and everything else and just the running back usage entirely, that would have
71:33equaled like the running back 23 in points per game.
71:36So Jonah Coleman, where he was drafted in like the running back 40 ish territory is a win for you.
71:43Hey, I just don't know if it's one of these wins that goes from, you know, running back 40.
71:50And one of these one, like one of these guys finishes as the running back 18, 16, 14 is like a huge fantasy changer for you.
71:59To me, like Terrence Ferguson, I'll say Emmett Johnson, like those guys to me, like that's how you have a path to winning your league.
72:07Jonah Coleman and R.J. Hartley, these guys aren't going to win your league.
72:12It's too complex. Matt, I buried the lead. Maybe the number one thing that saved our ass.
72:17Yeah, baby. Is Jalen Waddell having a big, big, big week?
72:21That's what we care about most here, right? What worked?
72:25What worked for Jalen Waddell in week two that we didn't get to see in week one?
72:30Well, first of all, early, like right away, they did get him some like easy button touches.
72:36We did actually see a little bit of that for Jalen Waddell.
72:40Right off the bat, they threw him like a screen pass.
72:44But for the most part, like it's a lot and a couple of quick like outs, the whole deal.
72:51So that's good to see. But tons of like just big breaking routes trying to crack open zone coverage, which is exactly
72:58what they wanted Jalen Waddell to be. Yeah. The route chart is perfect here.
73:03It shows you like some of the quick hitters, but also, again, some of the bigger downfield routes.
73:09So the huge crossers, huge crossers, posts. I mean, this is what they brought him double moves.
73:15Yeah. I mean, he's he was awesome in this game.
73:18I thought he was awesome in isolation in week one.
73:22And we got the exact role that we wanted.
73:25They just got spags and got a little bit like they jumped on him.
73:30I think they were surprised by that, what Denver got in week one.
73:34But yeah, I mean, all was right in the world.
73:37It does feel you know, I know, Josh, you said this, that it does feel very similar to like George Pickens from
73:452025, where the first game is not great and then we're just kind of flying from there.
73:51I'm hoping that that's the case because usage, effectiveness and bonus wasn't even perfect in this game, but otherwise like checked all
73:58the boxes that we were looking to see. Yeah.
74:01And the Jaguars defense is not an easy one to do that against this group, I think, is a real positive, too.
74:09Like, I love the switch release crosser for 20 yards.
74:12He was missed on a double move early. As you said, he got two screens.
74:17The second double move only went for 29 yards, but it could have been a maybe 73 yard touchdown because he put
74:25the cornerback in the ground with his route and only had to beat the safety if the ball was thrown accurately.
74:32But the ball was underneath because he was so wide open that that was enough gain that they needed there.
74:39Hayden, anything you want to add here with the Waddle usage?
74:43I like the Bo Nix rollout, which they did not do against the Chiefs.
74:48And then that was they had two in breakers with Sutton and Pat Bryant.
74:52And then they had Jalen Waddle over the top of that.
74:56Sean Payton after the game said that they went into this saying like no excuses.
75:01Jalen Waddle has to get the ball every single week.
75:05I think that week two is the baseline. We're going to throw away week one for the rest of the season.
75:12Ten targets, 14.3 expected half PPR points. I was wide receiver 12 on the week.
75:17I think that he's going to hover around there.
75:20He's probably not going to have the full George Pickens because I don't think he's going to have quite the red zone looks.
75:28They do too much, you know, manufacture touches in that area in this offense.
75:33But I do think that he looks like an upside wide receiver two in the making.
75:38And I think that week two was the real stuff.
75:42Week one was the outlier. And Matt, I guess the next question on this is, OK, what type of wide receiver two is it from Jalen Waddle?
75:51Is it some weeks that he finishes as, you know, a top eight player at the position and then other weeks he's, you know, wide receiver 36?
76:00Or is it, hey, we're going to focus in the passing attack so much on him that the very worst, you know,
76:08it's not going to be this roller coaster Ness.
76:11And we're still going to have the spike weeks that are up there as like a top seven, top five score.
76:18Yeah, I think the down weeks because like as Hayden said and as Sean Payton told his wife, like, you know, draft him on your fantasy team.
76:27Like there's clearly an intention to get him the football a ton.
76:31I think the down weeks will look something like four for 40 as opposed to what we got in week one.
76:38But the big booms will be there when you're running these deep vertical breaking routes and you've got a quarterback who, you
76:46know, is a good player in Bo Nix, but obviously has some volatility and some chaos to his game.
76:52There's going to be ups and downs to it.
76:55Like I think Mecca is kind of suffering through this right now.
77:00Very different player, but like suffering this a little bit with like Baker Mayfield, like there's just going to be natural ups
77:07and downs when you're running these big breaking routes, even if you're doing it in advantageous looks off the ball and in
77:15motion as Jalen Waddle and a Buka are. So, yeah, I do think just altogether there's going to be these high highs.
77:22I would say as long as we keep getting these quick outs, screens, stuff like that, the bottom will completely fall out on a given basis.
77:31Yep. Love all of that. All right. Let's close this top 10 with the Washington Commanders.
77:37One of the highlights so far of the season is that Stefan Diggs is the wide receiver 11 in points per game.
77:44Hayden, there's some consistency there so far over 13 points at least in each contest.
77:49Through two weeks. But now, as we know, and we don't even know for how long, Jaden Daniels is going to be out.
77:57Marcus Mariota is in. There were a couple narrow and I mean narrow Terry McLaurin plays on like three separate occasions that would have totally transformed.
78:06I think people's opinions of what Terry McLaurin could be as a fancy asset for the rest of the season if he nailed them.
78:14I think Marcus Mariota might be the best backup in the NFL.
78:18He's kind of changed his ways over the last couple of years and that he's like willing to attack deep down the field.
78:26And there was some elements there. Like you mentioned, all those Terry McLaurin plays were so close to hitting.
78:33There was a couple of flea flickers from David Blau.
78:36David Blau is also using Steph Diggs in interesting ways out of the backfield, some option routes, getting down the flats, that type of stuff.
78:45And then there was some moments from Marcus Mariota, like that big corner route for the touchdown to Steph Diggs.
78:51That was a great ball from them. So he's played a lot of football.
78:56He's not like quite as athletic as he was.
78:59He's going to scramble around just a little bit.
79:02But I think among backup quarterbacks, I do think that Marcus Mariota can kind of keep this thing afloat.
79:09Big caveat being no Larry McTunsel. We'll see about Josh Conner, the right tackle.
79:14He left with an injury. And now we have the Seattle Seahawks.
79:18Like, let's take a second. Like, let's let's recalibrate in a week from now.
79:23But I do think moving forward, there's enough interesting elements from Steph Diggs and the Marcus Mariota.
79:28It's like attempted to throw the ball down the football field where Terry McLaurin, like might be able to hold on to
79:36fantasy relevance as we get to buy weeks. But this next week will look horrific because we're talking about a first time
79:43play caller with potentially backup tackles and a backup quarterback.
79:47But I think we should like go into this week, like forgiving the commanders for what we're about to watch.
79:54Yeah, I mean, I came away from watching the Cardinals against the Seahawks.
79:58Being like, I mean, what do you want them to do?
80:02The Seahawks are the Seahawks, man. I think that's what the I think that's what the commanders are going to feel this week.
80:10I think everybody that goes against the Seahawks is going to feel that way.
80:15So not really thinking about these guys this week.
80:18But I think at this point, like Diggs should be the odds on favor to be the leading target catches yards getter in this offense.
80:26I think he looks better than Terry McLaurin right now.
80:30These guys are also like almost the same age at this current moment.
80:34Terry is 31. Diggs is 32, despite that Diggs has been in the NFL longer.
80:39I also think like they need more Antonio Williams to Williams looks good to me.
80:44I need less Deami Brown in my life. I'm not really sure like what the point of the stuff is.
80:51I can't believe Brown is like hanging on to a job.
80:55Matt, truthfully, I was watching this tape and I was like, who is six?
81:00I don't even know who number six is on this team.
81:03I had to go into the depth chart and see it was freaking Deami Brown running route after route, wind sprint after wind sprint.
81:12And I was like, why is this guy playing as much as Stefan Diggs?
81:16I understand different areas of the field. And then for Antonio Williams, as you said, he ran 27 of 46 routes, but
81:24then scored as the wide receiver 70, despite, you know, in week one being the wide receiver 14 on 12 routes.
81:31So it's one of those like, hey, he scored more when he played less, but at the same time, we want him
81:39to play more as we go along because that just means more opportunities for him.
81:44Yeah. I mean, you can't play somebody who's running 43% of the routes like you do need Deami Brown to get shelved.
81:51I think that would be bad news for Terry McLaurin, though, because then he's going to be that guy that's purely on
81:59ball running the running down the field. I don't know if Diggs like just can't play a full snap share at this
82:06point, but if he did, I mean, we would really be talking about a big win for Stefan Diggs, who I mean,
82:14he just like I said this a lot. 2024 to 2025, his reception perception charting was basically the same.
82:20And there was a torn ACL in the middle there.
82:24And based on what I'm seeing so far, I think there's not going to be any drop off to the 2026 results.
82:31He looks great. I know. Yeah, it just is what it is.
82:35Yeah. But his first touchdown in the low red was under center from Jane Daniels off of full speed motion across the formation.
82:43And it was just a quick throw where the defense might have expected like a five step drop or some play action on top of it.
82:52And instead, they just hit the design quick hitter to Stefan Diggs.
82:56And I love that. Like we want these design targets to players like that in the low area.
83:03Hey, before we move on, anything you want to say about the commander's backfield?
83:07Yeah, it's making me nervous. It's a big time rotation.
83:11Rashad White was playing a lot in the first half of this game.
83:15Quick notes on Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt. There was a pitch where he and Jaden Daniels weren't on the same page.
83:22And that ball was actually fumbled. A couple plays later, Jaden Daniels was yelling at him in the two-minute drill because Bill was not leaking out.
83:31Like he got kind of caught up with the defensive end.
83:34And he wanted him to be an eligible receiver.
83:37And then there was also a play where Bill Krosky-Meritt was a little bit late on a blitzer.
83:44And that forced Jaden Daniels to have to scramble.
83:47So I thought there was like some negatives on the Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt tape there.
83:51And then Rashad White mixes in at the goal line five-yard line attempt there.
83:56So yeah, he's the RB32 in usage through the first two weeks.
84:00And like I'm just struggling to see how he's going to like climb out of that.
84:06And obviously against the Seahawks, it's like a non-negotiable.
84:09Like he cannot be in your fantasy lineup. But like even beyond that, like I'm really kind of finding – it's a
84:16little bit difficult for me to like find the reasons like how he's going to kind of break out of this tier.
84:24Matt, do you want to stay for the Arizona Cardinals or do you have better things to do with your life?
84:31I mean I definitely have better things to do with my life.
84:35But if you want me to stay, I can stay.
84:39No, it's okay. It's okay. We'll relieve you for this one from the conversation we're about to have.
84:45Matt, thanks so much, man, for joining us each and every week here.
84:49On Stats vs. Film for the top ten. And I guess I'll see you on your show, what, in a couple days?
84:57No, I'm going to be off. One of my wife's best – Oh, that's right.
85:02One of my wife's best friends is daring to get married during the fall.
85:07So I have to travel for it. So, you know, unbelievable stuff.
85:11Wow. That'll be me and Justin Boone filling in.
85:14And we'll try to pump that for the best numbers of the season on your channel for you.
85:20Justin, I'm going to take an insult. Matt, thanks so much, man.
85:24Fine. Appreciate it, guys. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.
85:28All right. Let's go in alphabetical order the rest of the way.
85:32And, Hayden, that lands us with the Arizona Cardinals.
85:35First of all, we need to boilerplate this by saying that they face the Seattle Seahawks.
85:40And I'm at the point already, as Matt just said, that we shouldn't really have any sweeping necessarily takeaways of offensive performance in totality.
85:48Yeah. When a team does play the Seattle Seahawks, they are that degree, they are that level right now.
85:55With that said, only 47 snaps on offense for this team.
85:59And the place that we have to start is with Marvin Harrison Jr.
86:03Mike LaFleur was asked about Marv after the game, his effort and his route running.
86:08He said, quote, I don't see it that way.
86:11I think his running style is different than some other people's.
86:15When you went back and watched Marv, what did you see?
86:19Marv has an effort problem. I don't know what he's talking about.
86:23I think he's just trying to, like, you know, maybe motivate his young player.
86:28I can sense frustration from Marv because he's not a big part of the offense.
86:33But I would also just challenge, like, why should he be a bigger part of the offense?
86:39And in that LaFleur comment, he said, I mean, I got this guy named Trey McBride, who, by the way, Trey McBride
86:46also had a great game against the Seahawks in this one on top of that.
86:51So he's the he's the guy doesn't matter the matchup.
86:55He's going to get home. And it does feel like Michael Wilson is more involved.
87:00But if you watch the two Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson, sometimes you get the same exact route at the same exact depth.
87:07Michael Wilson looks faster. Michael Wilson is willing to, like, come out of his breaks, no matter if he's the first read or not.
87:16Marvin Harrison is not doing that. You brought up the blocking clips from him as well.
87:21He does kind of have this kind of, like, slow, methodical, kind of, like, gliding nature to his routes.
87:28And I understand what he's saying. But beyond that, like, he's not putting in that much effort there.
87:34And there was a couple times where the ball was even thrown to him and he was not expecting the ball to be thrown his way.
87:43Like, you can't have that. And I think it's correct.
87:46It's I noticed this last year. I noticed this in week one.
87:50And then I noticed it definitely in week two.
87:53And I think the conversation is only going to get louder because I don't think the Cardinals should be getting him the ball.
88:01And I think that's what he's upset about. Yeah.
88:04When I post these clips, you know, I get some responses of, well, why wouldn't he act like this when he's, you
88:12know, not getting the opportunity and he doesn't get the ball thrown in his direction?
88:17Well, you got to earn those. Yeah. You know, like, you got to do it through effort, urgency, all this type of stuff.
88:25And he basically got replaced in running downs after that awful effort that he had against Devin Witherspoon.
88:31Then when at the second level, Tyler Algier gets held up by two tacklers.
88:36And Devin Witherspoon basically gets a kill shot on Tyler Algier because Marv just slips it and doesn't care.
88:42So if we see it, his teammates see it and his coaches see it.
88:47And I wouldn't be surprised if one of two things happens.
88:51Either Marv looks motivated in week three and is zero to 60 every single snap, or they've just simply reduced what he's doing again on top of this.
89:00And as you pointed out with the targets and even more so just the route running, 50% of the time, he's just a clear out guy.
89:09Like, he is the sacrificial ex. He's running for the love of the game routes, which means things open up for Michael Wilson and especially Trey McBride.
89:18And that's his role here. Like, I put him on the drop list this week, even though he's rostered in 98% of Yahoo leagues out there.
89:27And I have zero hesitation doing that. Yeah, I think the question just becomes, like, is he going to get motivated?
89:35But even if that's the case, there's just too many guys to feed in this offense, especially as they ramp up Jeremiah Love.
89:42Or is he just going to get traded? And, like, we just don't see, you know, top 10 picks get traded in,
89:50like, the middle of the third year. But they just paid Michael Wilson.
89:54And I just think Michael Wilson's a better football player than Marvin Harrison.
89:59And it's kind of, like, a little bit redundant in what they're offering there.
90:04And, like, they don't have to have a high-quality third target because Trey McBride is soaking up 37% of the targets as a tight end.
90:12And then Kendrick Bourne, he just, like, kind of slides in as the other side of the zone kind of beaters.
90:19And they're going to get Jeremiah Love a lot more targets moving forward as well.
90:25So I hear you. I would drop Marvin Harrison if I had him.
90:29I was going to be ranking Michael Wilson ahead.
90:32And I'm very curious to see if he's actually going to get traded.
90:36This is, it's not a full Josh Rosen, but, like, we've seen this with Arizona.
90:42Right. I mean, again, it's kind of like a Trent Richardson thing that could potentially happen, albeit I doubt another team would
90:49pay a first-round pick in order to get Marvin Harrison Jr.
90:53on the team. He just also moves differently than he did last year.
90:57You know, I think this added bulk has, he is too big at this point.
91:02He is no longer fluid. He's, again, there's no urgency to his game anymore.
91:07It's like a minivan versus a Maserati, if you want to put it in those terms.
91:13Should we read into at all Tyler Algier running 18 routes compared, or 14 routes compared to Jeremiah Love's eight?
91:20Or is that just, hey, let's, you know, we're playing the Seahawks, let's get out of here.
91:25Uh, no. All three of his receptions were more like check-down variety, only 11% target share.
91:31None of them have been, like, like design screens necessarily for Jeremiah Love.
91:35So that's been, like, moderately disappointing. He's the RB26 and RB25 usage.
91:39So he's a flex play as we kind of wait for his kind of breakout.
91:45It is just, obviously, so, it's so clear that Jeremiah Love's just moving at a different level than Tyler Algier.
91:51So I still remain confident that, you know, by October and November, Jeremiah Love will break out.
91:57But we have to, like, wait for the sign that the breakout's actually coming.
92:02And in the meantime, like, he can be on your bench.
92:06Like, I don't think that's that crazy. I think that he's more of a flex guy.
92:11Uh, but he's parked on my benches in a couple leagues.
92:15Yeah. They're facing the San Francisco 49ers this week.
92:1819 and a half team total at this point.
92:21Next, they're Atlanta Falcons. Uh, maybe we should have included them in the top 10 because they play on Thursday, Hayden, and they have a new starting quarterback.
92:31Michael Penix is going to be there as the quarterback one.
92:34You know, Drake London, the wide receiver 52, a total of 11.4 fancy points through two games.
92:40Cal Pitts has two fancy points to his name.
92:43What are your expectations? I mean, I don't fully know what version of Michael Penix we're going to get.
92:50He's been a full participant for a little bit.
92:53So hopefully he's kind of back to where he was.
92:56It's not like he was moving around a whole lot.
93:00So it was more just like that. He has like the attitude that he just wants to throw the ball around and he's got a big arm.
93:09It's not always accurate, but there's some clear splits.
93:12There's been 12 games between Drake London, Michael Penix.
93:15Drake London is wide receiver three on wide receiver one.
93:19Overall usage at 16.6 expected half PPR points, 34% target share, which is elite stuff.
93:24Defensively, the Falcons are really going through it. We know that their two top edge rushers are out like doorless is banged up right now.
93:32Ebukam is banged up like they're losing everybody. Jesse Bates hasn't been playing quite as well this season.
93:38AJ Terrell just went to injured reserve. His younger brother, who we mentioned, is like slow and small is going to be playing a whole lot more.
93:48Their nickel is coming off a torn Achilles. This Falcons defense is really bad right now, and that's going to force Drake
93:55London, Bijon, and Kyle Pitts into a whole lot more usage.
93:59So completely unwatchable play from Cooper Rush. I'm not expecting, I never really liked Michael Penix all that much, but it'll be night and day difference.
94:08And I think that Drake London kind of goes back into like the top 12-ish mix kind of where we were drafting him as.
94:16I also believe that Kevin Stefanski is a different play caller than what he got with Zach Robinson last year, and I'm
94:24not exactly sure what the Michael Penix, Kevin Stefanski agreement is going to be like.
94:29Stefanski very much in the past, this is why he's worked with veterans, has been, hey, hit your back foot based on the leverage.
94:37This is where you need to throw the football to.
94:40A lot of that stuff is also over the middle of the field where Michael Penix has been terrified to throw the football to.
94:49Again, go back to his days at Washington with Ryan Grubb.
94:52This is why, you know, you had the Jalen McMillans and the Roma Doomsdays all outside the numbers, all outside the hashes,
95:00just big time routes down the field. And I do think Stefanski's stuff is a bit more like time oriented in that.
95:07Yeah. But the number one point is it's going to get better, right?
95:12It is going to get better than what we've had these last two weeks, which has been absolutely abysmal.
95:18Some of these players like Cal Pitts have gotten open down the field and the pass just hasn't been on them.
95:26Drake London, the passive in behind him, just wayward on top of that.
95:30And to your point with London, like almost three yards per route run with Penix compared to 1.9 with Cousins, 2.22 with Ritter and 1.72.
95:39So I almost want to take, despite, you know, you all spending high picks on almost all three of these players and
95:46especially the top two in London and Bijon, I want to take week three, even if they're not projected for that many
95:54points as the start of the new season. Yeah.
95:57And then Hayden, we jump back on next week in Sats vs.
96:01Film and then we get to see, okay, is London utilized in this slot?
96:06Is Cal Pitts getting motion? Is it all down the field stuff with him?
96:10Is it just the gimmies? Because this is a full-on reset for what hopefully is the rest of the season.
96:17Yeah, completely agree. I think it's going to be a shootout team, not because the Falcons are really good on offense, they're
96:25going to have to throw the ball around because the defense is in a really bad spot.
96:31Drake London played a little bit more in the slot in week two than he did in week one, so that's a little bit encouraging there.
96:39But yeah, throw out the first two weeks and just reset.
96:43Baltimore Ravens are up next. Rashad Bateman, one of your massive calls in the wide receiver rankings episode.
96:49By the way, subscribe, leave a thumbs up, and go watch those rankings videos every Wednesday and Friday here on the channel.
96:57Some goodness there that you don't get anywhere else.
97:00So he had a big week, Hayden, but that was, I think, obviously because Zay Flowers missed that contest.
97:06But when Zay does return, does Bateman having a performance like this maybe eat into or absorb some opportunities headed in his direction?
97:14Or is this team just so one wide receiver focused that, hey, thank you for your service, Rashad Bateman, and now we move on?
97:23It's possible, but Rashad Bateman's played a million games with Zay Flowers as the second or third target on the offense and has been not even rosterable.
97:32So I wouldn't straight up drop him because you want to see if Zay Flowers is fully going to play and like
97:39maybe there's something different with the Declan Doyle offense.
97:42There was some real like creativity in that game in the opener and then last week because they have just so little
97:50skill talent out there, I did think that the defenses were like really kind of like putting a lot of attention on
97:57Derrick Henry late in that game and they kind of ran out of options.
98:02They shouldn't have enough players around Lamar Jackson. They still had a 99th percentile, success rate on offense and they lost.
98:09Wow. 99th percentile. They just like come up with ways to lose that game.
98:14I do think that Zay Flowers is like so important to this offense that I'm really kind of just like not paying
98:22attention to what happened in week two assuming Zay Flowers is going to be back for week three.
98:28We talked about these tight ends. Is Mark Andrews in that conversation albeit only about 7.4 fantasy points he's around the tight
98:35end 16 or is he kind of in that next tier of tight ends that we talked about of hey this is deep.
98:43Yeah. I would say he's in that conversation if Zay Flowers is not out there I think he's a top 10 guy
98:51with Zay Flowers he's probably the tight end 16.
98:54He has back-to-back weeks with 8.3 expected points. He doesn't offer that much after the catch but when they're projected for 28
99:01points and you got Dallas who got shredded by Isaiah Likely they had coverage bust last week.
99:07They're kind of going through it. They got backup safeties and backup linebackers out there like you can pitch me on the
99:15matchup being too good for Baltimore in a very clear potential shootout that Mark Andrews could kind of sneak into lineups still.
99:22And just a closing thought on Derek Henry he has the running back three in points per game at this moment there
99:30were a ton of those running backs in the 1-2 turn.
99:34You know we were talking about Ken Walker III I know Matt was talking a lot about Derek Henry but Derek Henry
99:41and K-9 were avoiding the landmines of maybe some other not just running backs but especially wide receivers and pass catchers that were going in round two.
99:50So congratulations if you drafted Derek Henry. Let's talk Buffalo Bills next.
99:54If the Bills played on Sunday and that's when DJ Moore got his injury Hayden I kind of feel like this conversation
100:02might be slightly different but it does seem as if DJ Moore might be playing here in week three.
100:08It's an AC joint and we haven't had that many updates on it.
100:13Regardless Don Kincaid is balling out with DJ Moore in the field and without DJ Moore in the field.
100:19The tight end one on tight end seven usage a lot of like zone beaters in this one but his average depth
100:27of target is just way down the field versus most tight ends and he looks really good on on tape.
100:34He's playing slightly more he's not a full-time player but they're getting him more involved and they're doing like the T-FERC stuff
100:41from last year where they do three tight ends and he's pretty much like a wide receiver.
100:47Yes. Working down the field. There's only like pretty much like two eligibles out there like that's really easy for him to
100:55like really like scam up his yards probably. I think he looks really awesome and this is I would say an offense
101:02where if I'm going to pull a Rashad Bateman if DJ Moore is not going to play the bills are putting up
101:10so many points that I do think someone like Keon Coleman or Khalil Shakir can get home and I just want to
101:17shout out Keon Coleman a couple of nice man coverage wins without DJ Moore and then also a couple of zone wins
101:25where he like stopped in the right spot and Josh Allen found him so if DJ Moore is out I do think
101:32that someone like Keon Coleman could be my Rashad Bateman of week three.
101:37I could also see it being Khalil Shakir gets an explosive to get them to the 50 then Keon Coleman gets a
101:44nice you know 25 yard gain and then Josh Palmer is the one that gets like the 25 yard touchdown like they
101:52almost slice it three different ways versus it going to one guy and DJ Moore.
101:57What's interesting we talked about this many years ago when Dalton Kincaid was drafted Brandon being got the microphone and said hey
102:04this is gonna be great we can run and operate our offense out of 11 and a half personnel we know that
102:12failed miserably but Hayden they're basically going to 12 and a half personnel now with Dalton Kincaid out there along with the
102:19two other tight ends and that turns him into a wide receiver along with the blocking of Dawson Knox and of Jackson
102:27Hawes and so if he can block like a wide receiver in his two wide receiver set version of that which is
102:3513 personnel then they've almost like changed the math on top of throwing more often dropping back more often having more plays
102:42and that's also a change versus the previous you know quote unquote 11 and a half personnel failure that Dalton Kincaid was
102:50a part of yeah it's just a fascinating team I don't know how you stop the bills right now they're one of
102:57those teams where if you don't got an alien quarterback right now it's it's looking pretty difficult and they obviously do Kincaid
103:05that is 225 yards in two games like this this is this is wild he is the tight end one and the
103:12bills and chiefs are projected for the most points with 28 and three quarters in in week three Hayden you said if
103:20you don't have an alien quarterback right now you might not be among the best offenses well next up is the Carolina
103:27Panthers who have the running back eight and points per game with Chuba Hubbard there are wide receiver seven in Jalen Coker
103:35the wide receiver 23 in Ted Aaron Miller the tight end nine and Darren Waller and the quarterback two in Bryce Young
103:42I've said enough about the Carolina Panthers offense what do you want to say I'm not going to call him an alien
103:50I'll call him a minion he's playing really well right now with Bryce Young throwing the ball down the football field totally
103:57different style it's like obviously one of your best calls of the offseason is they're pushing the ball down the football field
104:05Bryce Young like that I love that little like shoulder move to the flat to hit that big side line yep that
104:12was beautiful stuff and like what we've been saying with Jalen Coker and T-Mac both of these guys are really good players
104:20they complement each other well they can go inside outside so they can play matchups so everything is getting home like this
104:27is the team that you needed to draft in fantasy to win and that's you know putting aside the Jonathan Brooks stuff
104:35who's now week to week with that groin injury but right now Chuba Hubbard after we got through like the top 60
104:42picks on Yahoo he's like the only running back that matters beyond that and Chuba Hubbard I think right now is going
104:50to be inside my top 15 or so he is he was the RB12 on rb7 usage in 2024 this year he's
104:58the rb8 on rb14 usage he's running the ball effectively I think that we're a while away from now Jonathan Brooks even
105:05competing for this so to me I think that Chuba Hubbard is one of like the best picks you could have made
105:13in fantasy and I think this is a situation where this isn't like a sell high I think this is just like
105:20ride this thing for as long as they can and the offense being competent this year and maybe even better than that
105:28I think that this is he's probably gonna be like the sleeper of 2026 it's such an excellent point and it's why
105:35I kind of talked the way I did about the Broncos backfield where you know you can draft the running back 30
105:43and he finishes as the running back 22 and you do that two or three times and you think you're a genius
105:50and you pat yourself on the back but the big wins are when you draft Chuba Hubbard as like the running back
105:5831 and right now he's scoring as a running back 8 like that is the big difference here that is what turns
106:05people into league winners and I would say the Panthers running game can even improve like right now it's some success rate
106:13stuff and actually he's what gotten two of his touchdowns as a receiver and not even as a runner the right side
106:20if you just look at you know some of the success rate stuff that is not doing I just love it and
106:28look it's the two defenses that they've played so far in the Bears and the Falcons but guess what the next two
106:35weeks are the Browns and the Lions and so in this environment of bad to average defenses that they face and they're
106:43putting up anywhere from 34 and 37 points heck I'll take 27 points on a given week then we should start all
106:50these guys every single time and then we reset you know in the fifth game of the season when they face the
106:58Eagles or the ninth game of the season when they face the Broncos and the Saints and the Reamans and all that
107:05type of stuff but enjoy it now because how it is operating right now it is it is not a fluke at
107:13all it just seems like everyone is on the same page and Brad Edzik is throwing some new wrinkles in there every
107:21single time in terms of getting to the line quicker and fast snaps and all this type of stuff and they're changing
107:28it and it just looks beautiful on a weekly basis tube hubbard's number one game this year but Bryce Young is not
107:36doing things that he doesn't like doing like this is the exact Bryce Young offense at Alabama and like you top 10
107:43ish play he's their 15th and projected points he doesn't have to run around nearly as much now because like the offense
107:51is functional but he different situations albeit they are both just throwing the rock down the field constantly I am in a
107:58league that I year so we're in that conversation like we're going to have some interesting conversations and I think it's been
108:06one of the biggest fantasy storylines the Carolina Panthers just being a very good offense to start yeah and you know when
108:13T-Mac Coker and Bryce are on the field at the same time good things have happened that's dated back to about week
108:2111 of last season and then Darren Waller is you have to line up in man coverage or beat you in zone
108:28and that's tough to defend at this point okay Cincinnati Bengals are up next they rebounded in a big way in week
108:36two I feel bad for Bengals fans Hayden because I feel like on weekly basis there's really not much to say about
108:43them I will add maybe the one disappointment so far is Chase Brown being the running back 18 in fantasy points per
108:51game at this moment but he just needs to find the end zone he's the RB5 in expected points there's been games
108:58where he's targeted a bunch he's not finished off his opportunities there that stuff will even out there was a really difficult
109:06opponent this last week kind of going into that which is why I had him fairly buried in my is he looking
109:13pretty questionable next to Kenneth Walker and Derek Kennedy right now absolutely but he's looking probably better than Devon A.
109:20Chan and some of the others in that range so like oh yeah for sure like Chase Brown and oh Martin Hampton
109:28to me the environment is totally different so I'm not panicking with him not going to say that he's going to be
109:35an awesome pick especially even this week the team total is mediocre my note on the bangles is we're back to the
109:43predictability part they've ran the ball last week and then about 90% of their shotgun plays they pass the ball if I
109:50know that they know that and certainly the Steelers do as well so it's just something like kind Denzel Boston is scored
109:58as the wide receiver 19 and 10 to open the season now that first week was a bit fluky 46 yard touchdown
110:05two minutes left in the fourth quarter down 34 to three but Hayden this week it was all real his seven targets
110:13five receptions 95 yards and one touchdown we the next season is Denzel Boston where people see all that scoring on their
110:20bench is he a flex option in week three he is more of a wide receiver three we need running backs in
110:28our wide receiver 29 in usage he's been dominant I will say that that first game that catch was very real like
110:35it came in garbage time but that was an awesome grab and this one bouncing off defenders on that dig route back
110:43shoulder balls through the first two weeks 21% target share that's wide receiver 30 stuff I just mentioned wide receiver 29 and
110:51expected points there's going to be rug pulls on the Browns you can't feel too optimistic here but he should be rostered
110:58in every serious fantasy football league and he probably should have been even last week and I do think that he's been
111:06this close to having more big plays in the offense and they're manufacturing a bunch of touches to him less so with
111:13fan almost nothing to Judy so the offense is centering around Denzel Boston and KC Concepcio not to the point where I
111:21think they're they're must plays but they're definitely worth tracking yeah the total for this game this week has already risen by
111:28two and a half points since it 32 on the week that's not fun it's not fun I think that he still
111:36looks decent but the success rate and all the type of stuff is abysmal this year he's just not going to be
111:43helped out by his offensive line I think Spencer Fano looked like all right there left tackle but it's a work in
111:51progress I don't think we should expect that to change there so I think that he's right there in the flex category
111:58but he's certainly not an RB2 okay next up is the Dallas Cowboys again an offense that we last year George Pickens
112:06was still like a top 12 fantasy score with CD Lamb in the offense the defense like there was like maybe a
112:13path where the defense was going to be so good that they're not going to like they're going to have to pass
112:21the football but not the craziest start for George Pickens but seven targets a game that's wide receiver 19 stuff he's wide
112:28receiver 23 and expected points hasn't done a whole lot on them but there's been defensive pass interferences called against him and
112:36I think that he looks like the same player so no panic yeah this is one of those that you see in
112:43your matchup oh they're against the Ravens maybe I should have some conversations but by far and away this game has the
112:51highest total of the weekend at 52 and a half it's already climbed by two points in the market so they're expecting
112:58the Cowboys to still be able to score on the Ravens all right we'll move on unless you want to say anything
113:06about Javante Williams there's just no one coming for his job so if he looks bad or good doesn't matter like he's
113:14going to be a totally fine player RB14 on RB10 usage keep moving Detroit Lions Jameer Gibbs smash I'm on Ross St.
113:21Brown smash Sam Laporta top seven tight in scoring right now eyes are on Jameson Laporta available Jameson Williams the wide receiver
113:2954 in usage more of a wide receiver 3 4 than a wide receiver 2 and that's how I'm going to be
113:36ranking him moving forward I there and they're still really banged up over there and I think that Jared Goff still playing
113:44well I would not be surprised if Jared Goff leads the NFL in passing yards this year and like that's how all
113:51these guys can get home but definitely agree like the floor is way lower than spot against the New York Jets this
113:59weekend and to the Lions defense they just lost Devontae Maddox who has played safety and corner for them like that's again
114:06on top of the Brian branch and Kirby Joseph being on injured reserve so like these next two weeks it's the Panthers
114:14defense so again he's wide receiver 56 with the opening two weeks Jameson Williams is and maybe that's when it rebounds and
114:21we get like two top 24 performances over these next two contests all right moving on Green Bay Packers Christian Watson is
114:29the wide receiver five right now Matthew Golden is the wide receiver 24 right now the running game is freaking horrible non-existent
114:36and right tackle Zach Baco Boele formerly known as last year and Hayden Jane Reed also left this game with a major
114:44injury so how is this team going to change are we going to get even more movement and focus on Christian Watson
114:51moving forward yeah after Jaden Reed went down early in that game and it sounds like Reed is going to miss a
114:59big part of the season and hopefully it's not like a career altering injury it's 47% of his three wide receiver sets
115:06snaps last week were in the slot they're going to elevate sky more as the new third starter and he's a slot
115:14player but they're going to sacrifice sky more to the perimeter and get Christian Watson inside that's how they've gotten Christian Watson
115:21for a couple goal line touchdowns in this offense the offense is completely consolidated around these two so he's the wide receiver
115:29one to me in good matchups like this one against Atlanta AJ Terrell is going to be out all their top edge
115:37rushers are out so I the green way packers is the highest among the NFL at this point and I don't see
115:44how that changes they're just gonna have to live with it and live with no running game for at least the next
115:52few weeks maybe even longer and have everything flow through Jordan Love as he gets hit throwing to Christian Watson Matthew Golden
115:59and that's it like we know what this team is going to be but if you watch the show you left your
116:07draft with one of if not both of Christian Watson and Matthew Golden this summer real quick on Matthew Golden he completely
116:14spun a corner around on a slant route he's doing all the Romeo Dobbs safety blanket stuff he also drew a couple
116:22defensive pass interferences down the football field he dropped the pass over the middle he was game against Brian Flores so I
116:29think you know against simpler defenses this team has a chance to erupt final note I think that Marshawn Lloyd is pretty
116:37much droppable I would not be surprised if Caleb Johnson finishes with the most carries going into this next week and Chris
116:44Brooks the lineup Hayden this is the latest example of there being no such thing as a wide receiver handcuff like none
116:52of these guys worked you know and Aaron Wilson is already reporting that it is week two so that's something I need
116:59to see if that gels at all it's again almost totally new five blockers up front if that can get going or
117:07this is still going to be they can't block their second and third worst in yards per carry both the running backs
117:14there and they're splitting and then David Montgomery didn't have a single carry in the second half because they were a negative
117:22game script this last week they got absolutely lit up by Dexter Lawrence and the boys in Cincinnati the Colts have a
117:29really opportunities because this Texans offensive line looks really bad again they do play the Colts in week three and they're projected
117:37for 23 points so maybe that's an environment where they can have some success here and hey I I think that Woody
117:44Marks looked just as good as David Montgomery the real winner here is Dalton Schultz when he went crazy last week and
117:52that's on 16.6 expected points did even better than that you just don't see 16.6 expected points based off the usage so
118:00what happens when you get 14 targets in grab working over the middle he is not an explosive player but he doesn't
118:07make any mistakes and CJ shroud can't trust the rest of this wide receiver group at this point to an experience on
118:15enough time to gel he's going to pepper Dalton Schultz like this is the perfect matchup to do so I'm undeniable Jacksonville
118:22Jaguars are up next and we have to lead with our guy Parker Washington everyone's guy Parker Washington hopefully all of you
118:30drafted him when watching videos this summer but even this usage exceeds my expectation I mean Hayden he has a 35% target
118:37share he's top four in yards per route run he's fifth in air yard share like these are all underlying metrics at
118:45least the targets per run you would see for a part time player who's overextending based on how many snaps he's getting
118:52on the field no this guy is he's getting the crossers he's getting the choice routes the passing game is he's easily
119:00their second most valuable player on offense behind Trevor Lawrence of course the numbers are sensational he's the wide receiver 13 in
119:07usage in that part time role watching that game for Parker Washington that was not easy stuff that he's just really good
119:15at football so I would just challenge Jacksonville but just play him every single snap I don't know what they're waiting for
119:22yeah speaking of snaps I understand that some Jaguars creators hate when we talk about this but we do need to bring
119:30up the Travis Hunter stuff because he is a part time player on both sides of the ball in week two Travis
119:37Hunter played just working back from injury yeah I don't know I can't explain it he was pretty much a full time
119:45player at corner in week one and didn't do that this week I can't explain it yeah and invested into that pick
119:52like I hope that he is like working back from injury and that's the excuse I guess one more rotation for the
120:00Jaguars is at the running back spot to me my eyeballs facial tootin just looks like the best running back on the
120:07team there's a whole bunch of stuff you can see here I on first and goal was important he was shot out
120:15of a he stayed in for an inside the 10 yard line snap Christopher Brugas didn't check in for one I five
120:23carry he loses three yards and tootin gets right back in there and right now tootin has the most 15 plus mile
120:30per hour runs in the NFL I to stack performances yeah this last week was even better than the first week I
120:38thought I didn't see any critical mistakes as a rusher he had that wildcat play they got Chris Rodriguez on a third
120:45and one wildcat earlier in the game but the more important one at the goal line did go his direction so I
120:53don't think he's he's clearly going to be the leader between the 20s they can throw the ball to them a little
121:00bit more than they have as well so RB 22 on RB 28 usage if I have already gone on and then
121:08you have LaQuint Allen doing his thing and there was what even a series that Amir Abdullah got in this game too
121:15so I'm not saying it's going to be like a four person rotation here but tootin as the running back 23 right
121:23now he's the running back 21 despite looking good and I'm wondering if there's a reason why Jacksonville weakness is the offensive
121:30line and we have to bring that up on the show because that's just like the truth of the matter is their
121:38offensive line is not good it this weekend Las Vegas Raiders are next Brock Bowers will practice this week that's awesome we
121:45also need to talk about Trey Tucker here Clint Kubiak has been an aggressive downfield play caller at every stop even if
121:53those teams in the New Orleans Saints and the Seattle Seahawks were not viewed as downfield aggressive passing offenses and they didn't
122:00do it in week one you know Kirk just didn't throw it for the Raiders I loved what you and Joel said
122:08on the waiver wire show that Trey Tucker is like Rashid Shahid and I think that's that's a pretty good comp and
122:15I think with the Saints Rashid Shahid was averaging out as the wide receiver 36 it Brock Bowers like volume abyss he's
122:23going to be harder to trust I think that he's absolutely rosterable he's like clearly their top wide receiver on film to
122:30me predicting when he's going to get these long touchdowns is like above my pay grade except for last week yes Brock
122:38Bowers instant start yes yeah I got him as real quick on Ashton what happens I mean three drops as a receiver
122:46after lighting it up against the Dolphins and then I don't want to say it but the rushing numbers right now are
122:53not looking good for Ashton Gentry he's not making that their easiest game on the schedule for the opening seven of the
123:01season against the Miami Dolphins so I just wanted to keep that in mind with a bunch of these Raiders that we
123:08were talking about and the declarations in Nash and Gentry after week one so I was a bit more hesitant than you
123:16know I saw some other people in the fantasy community saying if you redrafted he would be the 103 or the 106
123:23and that was too rich for my blood right ankle is being looked at the last plays of the game as well
123:31maybe so late into the game where they didn't have to save he did go back in okay yeah it was the
123:38same right ankle you don't like to see that but I'm guessing he will be fine you know keep Mike Washington around
123:46Miami Dolphins speaking of Devon Achan is bottom five in success rate right now but Hayden he is playing 80% of snaps
123:53and is the running back 24 so one of those two things have to change because the math doesn't math if a
124:01running back plays 80% of snaps and stays at the Miami Dolphins is are just awful offensively which is a potential here
124:08but I guess I want to set you up by this is is a change based on that volume is he a
124:16potential buy low go read what I per game are down just a little bit but screens per game the exact game
124:23this year versus where it was previously carries per game 15 and a half this year over the last two seasons it
124:31was at 13.4 there's nothing that has changed about his usage whatsoever the types of plays they're doing with Devane Chan it's
124:38a bunch of pitches to the perimeter I thought his cutback decisions have looked good they've just not blocked it up quite
124:46as well and then Malik neighbors has not hit him in stride on a couple of the targets and he has ripped
124:53off his signature 50 yard touchdown yet I think Aaron Brewer hasn't played quite as well that type of stuff has not
125:01gelled but it's the same exact playbook as last year now if Malik Willis is so bad that makes this irrelevant that's
125:09totally possible but I will take the much higher than RB25 rest of the season I think he'll be around RB12 it's
125:16not gonna be the prettiest thing but I New England Patriots are up next we have to hit on a whole bunch
125:24of stuff here maybe first I guess let's start with the running backs you know Mike Frabel punished and I mean punish
125:31Ramondre Stevenson for his early fumble in this game the next drive Trivian Henderson stayed in and came in and even for
125:39a third and one which the very next snap he hit that 39 yarder up the middle after the Ramondre Stevenson fumble
125:46Trivian Henderson out snapped Ramondre 32 to 15 he also had huge pass pro wins including one versus a blitzing linebacker he
125:54was tested multiple times in other scenarios and had some W's so look I was skeptical of how much of a jump
126:01Travion could make from year one to year two even if I'm a optimist he missed week one but in week direction
126:09of showing positives here yeah definitely it's a major win for him the Ramondre fumble has always been a narrative out there
126:16and then Travion hit that right the A gap it was Elijah Vera Tucker which is a new player for him he
126:24was been lighting lighting it up as a blocker at left guard and Jared Wilson now he's getting pass protection but he's
126:31switching to center and he's been moving some guys as well so that's where he hit that one for a big play
126:3916 carries to Ramondre six I think in my rankings it will be Travion ahead of Ramondre in this week the one
126:46issue that won the entire season and Ramondre Stevenson or Travion he just reminds me of Raheem Mostert in a lot of
126:54ways and those type of players are hard to get right on a weekly basis so I don't think I'll have either
127:01one of them as top 24 running backs because I'm just waiting for more answers here also you talk about this passing
127:09game without AJ Brown I felt like Hayden that there were too many dropbacks where everyone was locked up in tight coverage
127:16I'm not in the room it also felt like Romeo Dobbs wasn't necessarily in the right place at the right time and
127:24all those end of the dropbacks for Drake May on top the Patriots isn't going to hit nearly as it did last
127:31year yeah Drake may miss him on that third and nine slant where I thought that Romeo Dobbs had a chance to
127:39old Hunter Henry or Romeo Dobbs in fantasy and I don't think you have to start Ramond or Travion either and I
127:47don't you think you have to start Drake May this is one of those teams where all those guys are somewhat playable
127:54but they do not have a must start player in 11 is it is there the potential for Braylon Allen to keep
128:02him from being an outstanding pick like if the Jets completely exceed expectations somewhat like they're doing early on this season drafted
128:09as the running back 13 or whatever and a range of outcomes could have been as like a top six running back
128:17is that still possible here yeah I mean Braylon Allen got the five yard line carry touchdown this year but that has
128:24been annoying I will say Breeze Hall is touching the ball plenty enough to be a top 12 fantasy yes it's not
128:32about that it's like to your totally least 60 yards in both games to open the season so there's like some consistency
128:39there and I wanted to bring up those 12 targets because you fantasy relevant for me yeah it's kind of like I'm
128:47in love with the stripper going on though like Adonai Mitchell tantalizing but there's some issues still behind the scenes I know
128:54I stand by it the two drops were bad I thought that he had a pretty bad play on the ball down
129:02the field I still think there's very up and down route running against man coverage there but when he gets off coverage
129:09or if he's in the scramble drill or sometimes I'll get him in motion like when he's moving like he could really
129:17move and he had a defensive pass interference called on him on top of that so I think very volatile I of
129:24all the matchups this would be weak to play him and I think Mason Taylor even like one of their tight ends
129:32he's now down with an injury on top of it I just mean that no one is coming for I Mitchell's job
129:39which wasn't the case in Indianapolis they had Alec Pierce there right and so in this regard to me he's a wide
129:47receiver four slash five once we get injuries once we get by weeks I think he can be a fill in wide
129:54receiver three for your team when you need it and it's that simple yep during bye weeks and yeah I a complete
130:02disaster I understand that the nerds have gone deep and that run yards before contact per attempt is not a perfect metric
130:10but Hayden I on top of it but this is one of those situations that the offensive line and the run blocking
130:17needs to learn on the fly and it's very questionable if it's going to gel on the fly yeah cam jurgens had
130:25miscommunication issues changing positions and cam jurgens might be one the second he touches the ball untouched so yeah they're working through
130:32things hopefully the stinger doesn't linger he's had stinger issues previously which makes me a little bit more spooked but the problem
130:40with Tink Bigsby you guys nailed this on the waiver wire column is like he's not playing all the snaps and if
130:47the rushing offense isn't that great and we have the Jalen Hurt stuff like how good is Tink Bigsby even as an
130:55insurance play just because the offense I think they just pass the ball like crazy because this is drop backs versus seven
131:02runs so they kind of did the of that back field I also think the Saquon Barkley pick would have felt a
131:10little bit better in week two if he just played in this game like he left for at least half of it
131:17and more than that and he would have gotten the goal line touchdown that Tank Bigsby had and it would have been
131:25a little deodorant on the extreme frustration that I am feeling about investing so much in the Saquon Barkley I have reached
131:32out to a whole bunch of Eagles reporters over the last couple of days and I've gotten some messages in terms of
131:40they are going to continue to run the football and they are just going to try to fix it moving forward so
131:47this isn't to me going to just abandon the run and it's not working and just lean all the way into Jalen
131:55Hurts passing the football that is not what the identity wants to does he steal snaps from one of these wide receivers
132:02and that's not Devontae Smith and that's not Duntavian Wicks and maybe it's Makai Lemon is going to be ripped out of
132:10who is the 6th offensive lineman because they're 3rd 4th and 5th offensive yeah he's been around but they don't have the
132:17cleanest 3rd 4th and 5th offensive lineman right now so it'll be fascinating to watch they're not going to abandon the runs
132:25it's way too early for that I will say credit where it's due Jalen Hurts in pure passing situations has been lights
132:33out this year and a couple passes not too many but a couple of them over the middle in the ways that
132:40Jalen Hurts historically has not got it done a couple of those to Don Havion Wicks obviously Devontae Smith can be the
132:48focal point there I would also challenge them to use Makai Lemon like a first round wide receiver and Zachariah branch in
132:55the third round let's try to throw in the football field over the middle I promise you he's capable of doing that
133:03but he's unplayable I Don Tavian Wicks versus Adonai Mitchell I'm leaning Don Tavian Wicks in fantasy over Adonai Mitchell I think
133:10they're pretty similar players off the waiver wire but I've enjoyed the Eagles pass game a lot more than I have in
133:18previous seasons Wicks wide receptions 74 yards so that means over 70 in both games and let's remember they face the Chicago
133:25Bears here in week two albeit on the road but in prime time so their wide receivers and their running backs should
133:33have opportunities and hopefully Saquan plays we don't know he's had that means the Pittsburgh Steelers when throwing the football have dropped
133:40fewer points than Cooper Rush and the Atlanta Falcons yeah that's tough to do it's I mean this could could marinate and
133:48then immediate returns are it's just pathetic there was a play early on this game DK Metcalf is going to be working
133:55behind the line the lineman and the center gets beat so badly that slide and then one of the players drops out
134:03into coverage here comes a free rusher Aaron Rodgers could not throw the ball out in time there's been other issues where
134:10Rico Dallas missed blocks and pass protection there's way too many free rushers there's times where Aaron Rodgers getting hit from the
134:18front side at the same time nothing is working they're throwing up prayers to DK Metcalf has been horrific in isolated man
134:25coverage opportunities he's dropping the balls on top of that Jeremy Bernard drops a ball that goes for an interception where Aaron
134:33Rodgers has to make a play I'm not defending Aaron Rodgers at all he has not played well I understand him going
134:40to the media and saying I need to tell Mike McCarthy what's not going to work and Mike McCarthy offense feels disengaged
134:48from modern NFL offenses right now that has me very spooked because he's been a pass first coordinator and they're not doing
134:56any of the modern things in the past game right now defenses just do not time and so we'll just hit him
135:03or sack him or he'll dump it off for a loss and that's it and now they face the much improved Cincinnati
135:11Bengals defense I mean the Steelers are only projected for 19 and a half points in really good he's also wide receiver
135:1858 in points per game on the season right now so sure maybe he's higher in the models but so often we
135:26when Doudle was not out there and he's got a toe injury and we don't know the extent of it Warren was
135:33out there for 50 of 52 snaps there was a slight differences there but yeah this is an offense I just don't
135:41see the light at the end of the tunnel all right let's talk about the San Francisco 49ers they are up next
135:48I mean there's not much to say we've already talked about the running back room quite a bit on the recap show
135:56and the high ankle sprain we still know that Christian Kirk is on injured reserve so this is a huge boost for
136:03Debo Samuel and this is a huge boost for George Kittle who had an awesome week too and here we are once
136:11again with Brock Purdy playing like an elite level with Chris McCaffrey looking spryer this offensive line looking quite good and the
136:18targets are quite consolidated to Mike Evans to Debo and George Kittle it's all back Brock pretty looks phenomenal I mean I
136:26totally get it the Dolphins there was tons of coverage bust they have no good players I totally get it Brock Purdy
136:33did not miss that entire game on throws past the line of scrimmage he has a 90% catchable ball rate this year
136:4190% that's unreal stuff all these guys are going to get home George Kittle was moving a little bit better this last
136:48week a couple screens more backfield usage more carries more quick outs off of play action a couple intermediate passes the same
136:56exact usage as it was the week prior they're projected for 28 points I think Devo Samuel is a starter in fantasy
137:03and obviously Mike Evans and the rest of those guys are as well but I do think I I'm treating Devo Samuel
137:11as a serious fantasy player 22% target share in this offense yeah and Jordan Watkins and that's it like CMC is going
137:19to catch a bunch of passes I wouldn't be surprised if we see some like pony personnel stuff with Kaylin Black out
137:26there too and you know while CMC is playing fewer snaps and Kaylin Black is you legitimately playing some stuff this is
137:34so consolidated and if they're going to be projected for 28 points per week everyone's getting home everyone should be in your
137:41starting lineup it's that simple yeah pretty has been excellent yes I agree Seattle Seahawks let's talk about them so Jadarian Price
137:49did not start this one or excuse me he did start this one he also got an inside the 20 yard carry
137:56inside the 10 yard carry so I wanted to note that because then there's a lot of weirdness that happened in this
138:04game all right Emmanuel Wilson also then got stuffed three times inside the five yard line on three straight carries Jadarian Price
138:11got a carry inside the five yard line also got an end zone target on a double move and up at wide
138:19receiver however when Jadarian Price leaves with like a chest shoulder injury pops back in for one snap with two minutes left
138:26in the third quarter and beyond in the entire fourth quarter Emmanuel Wilson gets 14 touches 14 carries and looks very good
138:34in them very good so I have no idea what to do with Jadarian Price also looking good on a few runs
138:41that he bounced early on but this doesn't lead me to him being 100% healthy and then adding more and more onto
138:49his plate in week three yeah the usage is very Kenneth Walker esque from last year except we don't know if he's
138:56actually Kenneth Walker as a player the fumble was definitely concerning did not lose all the snaps early on but this was
139:04not like a fourth quarter chest injury issue like Emmanuel Wilson was getting more carries in the first half of this ball
139:11game than he was in week one so I do think that is concerning and George Holani he doesn't touch the ball
139:19but he's out there in every obvious passing situation and I don't think that that's going to change until Zach Sharbody comes
139:26back and he'll just be Zach Sharbody instead of Holani so AJ Barner on a tush push so I'm not convinced that
139:34Jadarian Price is going to get enough goal line carries to really matter here so I think he's a flex play he's
139:42an ever played and he had some I just again want to say some positive moments in this game too but we
139:49didn't get that he exited with a shoulder and then Emmanuel Wilson just grinded out 6 7 12 yard gains and that's
139:57what we have here so yeah if this team just continues to live in a split backfield they are favorites in this
140:04game by 6 and a half on the road against the commander so we'll see what happens anything you want to add
140:12here on true lock JSN it sounds like Sam Darrell might be practicing this week I 30 points per game through two
140:19weeks 30 my 30 my I guess my film note is there's a lot of plays where he's lined up against safeties
140:27and I think that's a promising sign for Brian Fleury the new offensive coordinator there like it's he's not oh where do
140:34we want to go from here I mean with Tampa Bay the two things that we all talked about this summer with
140:42them is one they're bringing back all five offensive linemen and two that they had a huge investment in the pass rush
140:49I'll that's the first part offensive line and Baker is impacting the passing game however Bucky is extremely relevant he's running back
140:5715 in points per game 11 points at so may feel like dropping his eyes way too quickly there is a lot
141:04more interior pressure than I would have guessed and he wants to scramble around like there's not enough times where he's stepping
141:12into the pocket and even an exaggeration he had one ball right on the money but there was a lot of like
141:19ted hearse prairie arts in this offense and like that's concerning yes um and even more concerning we'll obviously get to this
141:27later in the week you got the vikings if you're feeling heated up pressure wise and for the first two weeks and
141:34then you have to go deal with what brian floor is and like what dallas turner is doing individually jaylen redmond individually
141:42like i i don't think that this is going to be the week that they're going to sort this thing out yep
141:49totally agree with all that tennessee titans in our last talking point of the day cam ward has the second lowest adot
141:57in the nfl at 5.1 yards only cooper rush is lower so what we loved about cam ward in college was that
142:05at his best buy some time throw darts down the field uh and i think that after week one this team kind
142:12of realized in week two let's not you know put this on him let's lean into the running game as much as
142:20possible and unfortunately that kind of came into fruition that once again when they got into the red zone there was like
142:27this double action in the backfield and he had carnell tate on a crossing route open a step on his man and
142:35he threw it behind him that he could barely get a hand on the football it should have been a touchdown for
142:42the rookie and yet cam ward couldn't complete it and i thought that was one of the best games he's played um
142:50and there are still some some negatives there wasn't like the critical error like obviously miss miss throws is a misthrow but
142:57there wasn't anything like too like like backwards with with the cam ward stuff uh but still like there's not enough explosives
143:05here um shilka patty had an interesting stat uh first two weeks the titans just can't figure out kickoffs they've kicked touchbacks
143:1250 57 of the time the league average is 16 he just says they're giving away field position yeah and on that
143:20the the game winning drive uh the eagles started at their own 35 immediately scored a touchdown with nine seconds left so
143:27like does this matter for fantasy like it directly doesn't but when you have like obvious signs like this like this is
143:35not the only thing that they're doing incorrectly like if this is happening to the point where it's so obvious for podcasters
143:42to figure things out right then there's little details that are way above above us that they're also getting wrong so like
143:50that's just uh just like fundamentally wrong for for tennessee yeah these kickoff rules are not new for anyone right so after
143:57what two plus years of doing this uh teams should realize hey kicking it to about the three yard line or the
144:05seven yard line and it bouncing in front of these players and going the end zone is much better or forcing them
144:12to return it and it's unlikely to get to the 35 is much better than just kicking it out of the end
144:20zone or kicking it deep into the end zone and just giving them the 35 versus the 23 or the 27 again
144:28you're just handing over yards and that's just top down that's robert sala who then has hired brian dayball and this is
144:35just kind of what the operation is at this moment so we'll see if like the titans can get it going but
144:43again uh they are only portrayed for 18 and a half points against the new york giants this week not a single
144:50player i would start some are calling it the dayball what do you think about that i agree the dayball i agree
144:58all right okay time to get out of here thanks so much everyone for tuning in again tomorrow on wednesday we have
145:05the running back rankings episode then friday the wide receiver episode is back if you need hayden's rankings at all during this
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