0:00We are already into Week 2 and you know we've got some running back rankings for you with, by the way, Hayden
0:06Winks, top 5 ranker in the entire industry in Week 1.
0:09It has gone to his head. I'll be honest with you, it's already gone to his head.
0:14We'll go through all the backfields here, including the ones that smashed and the ones that we have questions about, you know,
0:20like Devon A-chan or what the heck happened with Travis A-chan in Week 1.
0:24We dive through it all. 40-ish names here in actual tiered out lists.
0:27So go on, listen to this episode. of Yahoo Fantasy Football with Josh and Hayden.
0:31Week 2 running back rankings are here. Then we're gonna go at least like 39, 40 names deep and Hayden, we already
0:37have everything figured out after Week 1. We do.
0:40This is the hard part though, because you don't want to read into the sample size too much, but you do want to react.
0:47And I was looking at some math as I typically do.
0:50And the running back position is the position if you want to take Week 1 sample and at least look at the
0:56usage and be like this is kind of taking this at face value, like this is the position to do it.
1:01Totally. And we know that game scripts, play a factor, especially in the running game.
1:06And then also defenses that you face play a factor.
1:08And sometimes with the defenses, Hayden, we don't really know which ones are good and Week 1 and which ones are bad.
1:14But that is something we're going to discuss here today.
1:17First of all, Justin Boone is going to be on our running back rankings for the rest of the season.
1:23He had a death in the family. Obviously, we're sending our best wishes to him and his wife and his whole family with that stuff.
1:30Hayden, though, I do have a pitch for you.
1:32We had a request in the comments last week to turn this week to turn this into actual tiers.
1:37So you want to give it a go, like a little rough draft this week and see how that goes?
1:43Yeah. Can we send Jameer Gibbs into a tier way above the screen that exists here?
1:47Well, let's kick things off with Jameer Gibbs because right now and in the future, he will be your running back one.
1:53This is at the Buffalo Bills. Detroit had a league high 51.5% success rate on rushing plays in Week 1.
1:59In 2025, they were 28th in the league in that department at around 38%.
2:03So we know that they've changed some other offensive linemen, namely Blake Miller at right tackle, plus bringing Drew Petsing in as offensive coordinator.
2:09There were some splits from the last couple of years without David Montgomery, and he's averaging over 25 fantasy points in those ones.
2:16And then last week, 28.4 expected half PPR points.
2:18He always finishes above his expected total because he's so good.
2:21Lions projected for 25 points on the road short week against the Bills.
2:25The Bills just got lit up by David Montgomery and Woody Marks.
2:28David Montgomery went untouched for a touchdown there. And then over the last couple seasons, so from 2025, Week 1, all the
2:34way through last week, the Bills are the fourth worst fantasy running back defense when you adjust for schedule.
2:39So this is a tier by himself, maybe for the graphic.
2:42We keep his others in there, but out of respect for Jameer Gibbs, he's like three tiers above everybody else.
2:48And just to prepare yourself, I am going to ask you once we get to James Cook, just about some of the
2:54wide receivers in this game as well, since it's Thursday night football, because obviously our wide receiver show posts on Friday after this.
3:00So keep that in mind. Okay, think about two things at once.
3:03I also want to mention that Hayden last week finished as the fifth best ranker, according to fantasy pros out there.
3:09How does that feel? That was pretty exciting. I didn't realize how many people have rankings.
3:14There was 185 of them. I will also say this.
3:16A couple of the people ahead of me did not rank kickers and defenses.
3:20And kickers was my worst position. So with the big asses there, if I also didn't rank kickers, I might have even finished higher.
3:27There you go. And when I see fifth overall, Hayden, do you know what I think?
3:31I think that there's still improvement. There is. Let's get better.
3:34Okay. B. John Robinson is your running back too.
3:37I'm going to keep going in S tier. This is against the Carolina Panthers.
3:41Unfortunately, last week, the Falcons had to build their offense around B.
3:44John Robinson. On one hand, that's good for us for touches.
3:47On the other hand, it was an abysmal offense.
3:50He got there on one wide receiver screen reception that he took to the house.
3:54But they were the only team in the league without a snap inside of the red zone in week one.
3:59So how many weeks is it going to take for that to change?
4:03I don't know. As long as as long as B.
4:05John's eating the ball, I don't really even care that much.
4:09Like, I think it's as simple as that 45% target share.
4:12And then B. John's also just absolutely lit up the Panthers.
4:15He scored 22 and a half fantasy points or more in his last three outings against them.
4:19Like, this is just like a complete layup line here as well.
4:23The team total makes me nervous at 20 and a half.
4:26But the Panthers, they've been equally bad. DeAndre Swift, Kyle Manonga last week.
4:29Yeah, the tackling was brutal for the Panthers last week.
4:32And that's something that with a number of these teams, I'm going to keep in mind if it can change, if it doesn't.
4:38And once we get to like a two to three game sample, it's like, oh, buddy, that is a major problem that can continue here.
4:45Chris McCaffrey, I'm assuming, is still in tier S for you.
4:48Yep. OK, CMC. This is against the Miami Dolphins.
4:51I just want to make sure of this, by the way, Fantasy Labs.
4:54Love your product in terms of all of the, let's say, lines and, you know, point totals and everything like that.
5:00They're the ones that got me in trouble yesterday with the Commanders and the Dallas Cowboys.
5:04I'm going to put them on notice. OK, well, good news for you.
5:08The website that we use, I have that same exact thing.
5:11My lines are correct. So I'm going to send you a link after this.
5:15OK, perfect. But I'm saying that by noting that apparently the 49ers are 13 and a half point favorites against the Miami Dolphins.
5:21Are you saying the same thing? Yes. Second highest team till about 29 and a half.
5:26I'm kind of taking what happened in week one at face value.
5:29I think that Shanahan was talking about this quote.
5:31I want to have more juice. I want him fresher.
5:34He doesn't have to take that beating when it's unnecessary.
5:37I'm hoping we can have some other guys step up more this year so you don't feel like you have to have them on the field every play.
5:45He said that back right after the draft. Since then, Kalen Black has had an excellent camp and Kalen Black is going
5:51to spell him between the 20s on early downs.
5:53And that's totally fine. On passing situations, 10 of 12 snaps in favor of Christian McCaffrey.
5:58I do think that the goal line will be Christian McCaffrey.
6:01If you chop off six of the most kind of useless carries from Christian McCaffrey on a per game basis, it's not that big of a deal.
6:08So I think that he's probably not going to be the legendary RB1.
6:12But in this week against the Dolphins, by the way, the Dolphins can stop Ashton Gentry out in space as a receiver.
6:18I think that's what Christian McCaffrey does. I also think if the team is up by 13, we could see Kalen Black
6:24in there for half of the fourth quarter. And that could mean a touchdown on top of it.
6:29So I keep mentioning this Kyle Monungai adjacent maybe type role here for Kalen Black.
6:33And as we know, that really was like a very small piece of the pie earlier in the season.
6:38And that kind of expanded as the season went along.
6:41But in these types of games where an offense is projected for so many points, the true backup running back can still get there.
6:47So if you're like really in a pinch, either in a deep league or because of your flex for some reason, I
6:54think Kalen Black is an intriguing name once we get further and further down the list.
6:58Yeah, I think I'm pretty close like Blake Corham in my rankings.
7:01And I shouldn't keep doing that. Okay. Derek Henry is your running back four.
7:05Is he still S tier? Absolutely. Okay. Eight and a half point favorites against the New Orleans Saints this week.
7:11Hey, New Orleans had a league low 48 and a half percent success rate defending rushing plays in week one.
7:16That was against the Detroit Lions, which again is Jameer Gibbs.
7:19But guess what? This is now also Baltimore. And boy, oh boy, did their reworked offensive line look good in week one, too.
7:26It's not as simple as this, but Brandon Staley's kind of been okay with getting kind of gashed.
7:30If that means that he's preventing explosives through the air.
7:33We don't know if State Flower is going to play yet or not.
7:37But if that's going to be the case, like that's all Derek Henry.
7:40And I was talking to Nate Tice on the football 301 by second recap show of Sunday nights.
7:45And he was talking about how the Ravens were getting to Derek Henry runs in a more unique way with Declan Doyle.
7:51And like that was like really beneficial. And then over the last 33 games with Lamar Jackson since 2024, Derek Henry is the RB5.
7:58He's averaging 106 rushing guards per game, almost a touchdown per game, 18 carries.
8:02The efficiency numbers, number one in rush yards over expected, number one in EPA per carry, number one in yards per carry.
8:08They fed him 24 times last week as well.
8:10So like this is the same first round running back until proven otherwise.
8:14Totally. They also fed him a cool screen for 19 yards.
8:17If we just get one of those per game.
8:20Choo choo. That's that's freaking awesome. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, we talked about a ton on stats versus film.
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8:33That most, let's say new play callers with quarterbacks had some stutters, some stumbles.
8:37But Declan Doyle might be shining up his resume as the next head coach across the league by like late October.
8:43Yep. Kenneth Walker, the third. Your guy. My guy.
8:45My guy. As an audience. Our guy. S tier.
8:48After one week. Yes, absolutely. I mean, the Chiefs are projected for 26 and a half points.
8:52They're touchdown favorites against the Colts. The Colts just got lit up on the ground against Derek Henry to the point that
8:58they're changing their green dot player on defense. After the first week, the Colts said that they their communication was so bad.
9:04I think it's going to a safety if I remember correctly.
9:07So lots of problems on the Colts defense right now.
9:10No problems for Kenneth Walker. The touches were outrageous.
9:13He was the RB3. He had over 21 expected half PPR points.
9:16They targeted him a couple times as well. Like this is.
9:19This is going to be completely automatic. And I was really impressed with the offensive line.
9:23Creed Humphrey's just like such a treat to watch.
9:26And then their undrafted free agent left tackle was like legitimately moving bodies.
9:29Like that's just. That's the good stuff. And it seems like there's still major questions about Josh Simmons and when he's going to return.
9:36So Khalil Benson already doing that in week one is magnificent stuff for them.
9:40Oh, yeah. Big time. Yeah. And look, we talked about it all draft season.
9:44That when Ken Walker had played over 60% of snaps in games, he averaged 17 and a half fancy points per contest.
9:50And I highly doubt we'll see a single game this season of him below 60%.
9:54And you saw it like the reason that that's awesome.
9:57And why he gets that number is because if he plays that many snaps, he's going to reel off one explosive and
10:03change the game and give us huge fancy points.
10:05I did want to bring up Andy Reid in his comments real quick.
10:09Quote for him to play the way he did.
10:11I thought it was spectacular. He was the main guy.
10:14Emmett Johnson did a nice job too when he had an opportunity to get in there.
10:19But those guys, both those guys are contact talented.
10:21So they got a lot of yards after contact.
10:23Yeah. Very contact talented. That's a great fancy team name.
10:26There it is. All right. Jonathan Taylor also asked here.
10:29Um, yes, I'll round up here. 14 games with Daniel Jones.
10:32He's the RB one and RB two overall usage and half PPR.
10:35Last week, I think it was kind of like a nice sweet spot because Daniel Jones, after watching the tape, he is
10:41not fully himself like athletically, but he's functional enough to like throw the ball down the field.
10:46And there's going to keep writing, uh, Jonathan Taylor that maybe the reason for hesitation there is because they're projected for 20 points.
10:52They're touchdown dogs here. Uh, but the Colts, uh, run game was, was awesome.
10:56Uh, and I think they're going to run the ball, even if they're trailing for a lot of this game.
11:02So I just think just kind of rounding up for Jonathan Taylor is pretty appropriate.
11:06I thought he was the best part of their offense.
11:09Uh, after that first drive, he was still, you know, grinding out yards and still looking spry and nimble.
11:14Uh, and this is though on the road at the Kansas city chiefs.
11:17Okay. Since your hesitation was there, you're running back.
11:20Seven is Ashton Gentry at the LA chargers. Am I correct in putting him into eight here?
11:25Yeah. Let's break the tie here. The Raiders are projected for 18 and a half points.
11:29That's 28. Uh, the chargers defense was not quite as good, uh, in week one without Jesse mentor.
11:34They're not that talented. Just like just looking at the depth chart.
11:37And I think they really have to be better in communication than what they were in week one.
11:42Ashton Gentry easily could be an S tier back in fantasy because of the way he was used in the, um, receiving
11:48game, a couple of screens, a couple like choice routes.
11:51Uh, he had a, like a return route down the football field.
11:54Uh, and then he had that play action leak, uh, target that went for a touchdown too.
11:59So like that's a, that's a lot of receptions when they were winning.
12:03Uh, this is a situation where they might be losing.
12:05So if we're catching four or five, six passes a game, uh, then all the rushing stuff's kind of like a cherry on top.
12:12And he handled about 75% of the stuff on the ground.
12:15Mike Washington, I think played well, but that's going to take a while to kind of ramp up if it, if it ever does.
12:22And Ashland looked so good last week that, uh, it just might not.
12:25On that note, uh, this is from Clint Kubiak.
12:28Gentry was playing good football. So Mike Washington didn't get as many opportunities as maybe we would have thought going in.
12:34That's how those games go. You ride the hot hand on top of that.
12:37I think preseason we viewed and everyone viewed the charters defense as good.
12:41Uh, now without Jesse mentor, uh, it might not be as good.
12:44And, you know, you even look at some of those defensive pieces and they look worse without Jesse mentor coaching them.
12:50It kind of is that simple. And so while to me, you know, a lot of the Raiders success, I do want
12:56to caveat that by saying, Hey, they played the fricking Miami dolphins, you know, a team that is once again, underdogs this
13:02week by 13 and a half points. Uh, I think we also learn more about the Raiders in week two, more than we did in week one.
13:10I'll also say on the chargers defense, uh, Derwin James over 30 years old.
13:13He got absolutely cooked by, uh, training pride. And then Khalil Mack is like, well, he's gotta be 35 or whatever he is too.
13:20So like, they're also aging on some of the, like their most important players over the last couple of years that had
13:26that defense rolling as like a top five unit.
13:29Totally. And they're replacing Odafa away who was awesome on the second phase sacks with Hakeem Mezador, who's a rookie, albeit older.
13:35So there's going to be a fall off there too.
13:37James cook is your running back eight. Also in the eight here, this is against the Detroit lions.
13:42Uh, this note from retrieval, Josh Allen is eight and one in Thursday games over his career.
13:47I think that's notable because we, again, we saw the lines be great in week one, but despite that the Buffalo bills
13:53at home are four and a half point favorites here with nearly 18 total of 30 points in this contest.
13:59Yep. Highest of the week at 29 and a half.
14:01Uh, the neutral pass rate went from more balanced up to more pass heavy, um, in week one with, uh, Joe Brady going to the head coaching spot.
14:09That was against the Texans defense. The lions defense, I think better at stopping the run than they are at stopping the pass.
14:15That said the lines defense is so bad at stopping the pass.
14:19I actually think it's a good spot for James cook because there's probably just more chances to have a red zone touchdowns.
14:25Unfortunately, Josh Allen had a tush push touchdown on a fourth and one later.
14:29Uh, they did Josh Allen wildcat stuff. Uh, James cook nearly, uh, broke a huge play and then he kind of fumbled the ball in open space.
14:36So there's gonna be huge games for James cook.
14:39He looks still looked really awesome on tape to me.
14:41Uh, it's just, I don't think that he's gonna lead the NFL in like rushing yards per game this year.
14:47I think he seems to be a little bit styled differently.
14:50So I think that he's gonna be maybe more in this tier than that top tier.
14:54Um, but this is a good spot for him.
14:57The bills did average 9.6 yards per play on first down on the road in Houston, which is actually the most of any game since 2023.
15:04Um, with Ty Johnson and active in week one, James cook did run a route on 50% of dropbacks, which is good
15:10for running back 13, which, you know, is a good aspect of his game, but maybe not accentuated enough in the past.
15:16But the same time, Hayden, like the dropback rate and just completing so many explosive passes down the field might take James
15:22cook a couple of notches versus where he has been a couple of years in the last couple of years, just from,
15:28you know, an overall pure opportunity standpoint. Yeah. I think it's like to say three or four fewer carries per game.
15:34I think he might add a target per game, but I do think that you would rather have, uh, that rushing volume out there.
15:41So very minor differences, but I think worth looking into.
15:43Yeah. Detroit did allow eight receptions to, we know the saints backfield last week.
15:47So that is something to keep in mind here too, James cook.
15:51Saquon Barkley is your running back nine. I'm going to put them also in eight here, seven point favorites here at the Tennessee Titans.
15:57Uh, he got hit behind the line of scrimmage way too often last week.
16:01There's a new left guard. As they say, you're only as good as your weakest link and Hayden from watching the tape,
16:07uh, Landon Dickerson was the weakest link on this Eagles offense in week one.
16:11It could only get better from week one left guard spot.
16:14Uh, there was a couple of unblocked like blitzers, um, in that game, but I don't think the Tennessee Titans defense is
16:20going to be doing what the commanders were doing.
16:22Uh, and the Titans did not have a good showing on defense.
16:26Uh, Braylon Allen and, uh, breeze hall lit them up on the ground.
16:29And, uh, Robert saw like was not happy about that.
16:32Uh, I will say with Saquon Barkley, the box scores do not indicate how involved he was as a receiver.
16:38There were four targets to him. One called back on, on a, uh, a holding.
16:42There was a dropped pass in the flat. Uh, and one other thing that went sideways with Saquon Barkley, but a little
16:48bit more involvement in the ground game would help Saquon Barkley even things out.
16:52We're not going back to 2014, but I do think we're going to be way better than we were, uh, 2025.
16:57Yep. The other part of that, as you mentioned, the Washington commanders defense is a disciple of Brian Flores and the Minnesota Vikings.
17:04So as much as we avoid. Or bring up how difficult it is to run on a Brian Flores defense.
17:09I don't know if we have said enough or mentioned this heading into it, that couldn't we say that same thing about
17:15the commanders and like that was part of it, especially with a new running scheme that Jordan Marlotta has talked about over
17:21and over and over again, that Charmaine is bringing in.
17:24So it's almost like a number of factors along with the left guard playing so poorly because he was banged up that
17:30to me, I could see an explosion from Saquon Barkley week too.
17:34Yeah, I could see that seven broken tackles last week.
17:36Uh, that one where he got, uh, down the football field like that looks, that was like a special player.
17:42Or maybe I'm just coping. Either one can happen.
17:44Javante Williams is you're running back 10 also AT here against the Washington commanders.
17:48Yeah, definitely. I mean, the, the Cowboys are fourth and projected points.
17:51They should, um, beat up on the commanders here.
17:54Uh, there's just nobody really behind them. Like they just signed him, Mark Dean Mercado.
17:58That was the backup. And then they're using a full back sometimes in like pass protection.
18:03But he had 22 routes, which is like a rock solid number.
18:06He had six targets and he was way more efficient.
18:09I think maybe something that from the off season is everyone's like, he was so bad as a receiver.
18:14He's going to get replaced or it's, he's going to positively regress as a receiver, which he did in this one.
18:20And then all of a sudden he's going to be a super smash and fantasy.
18:24So last year he was top 10 in usage last week.
18:27He was RB nine in usage. The Cowboys are going to score a lot more points.
18:31They're going to run a lot more plays in this one.
18:34Um, the commanders aren't going to be quite as bad.
18:37Like we just talked about on defense. Sunny styles was good.
18:40Nick cross their, their strong safety made a couple of awesome plays there.
18:44Uh, but still the starting point for the commanders were, uh, they were fourth worst against fantasy running backs last year.
18:49Okay. The loss in this chargers were the biggest disappointment in week one.
18:53The markets have them not being a disappointment in week two at a projected 25 points.
18:57So as you're running back 11 against the Las Vegas Raiders, what tier does Amar and Hampton fall into?
19:03I would still keep him in this tier. I mean, the charges projected for, for too many points.
19:08He still had what? 75% of the, um, running back carries, uh, Keaton Mitchell got in there in the first half.
19:13So it wasn't like just like garbage time. Um, uh, he was out there.
19:17The center and right guard are going to be terrible.
19:20And the left guard wasn't even that bad in the run game, but that was a rotation.
19:25I don't feel very confident with that. So they're going to have to get a little bit creative.
19:30Omar and Hampton. I don't think he's a first round down.
19:33He's really fast. He's really big. He's going to have some wild moments that one touchdown he had was awesome, but there's
19:39just like him kind of turning the corners, like doesn't quite hit the same here.
19:43So, um, and also zero targets. So it was the, uh, one of the lowest, uh, running back usage games, um, uh, of week one.
19:50And that needs to change for him to stay as a top 12 fantasy receiver.
19:54I, I are running back. I really think that will change, but that was shocking to have zero targets.
19:59Okay. Kyron Williams is your running back. 12 B tier, a tier.
20:02Where are we going here? Um, against the New York giants.
20:05I will say you are three spots ahead of consensus rankings here, which I think is pretty important when we're talking about Kyra.
20:12Yeah. I'm guessing. I'm a little bit surprised by that.
20:14The Rams are projected for 27 points here. Uh, we can keep them in, in the eight here as well.
20:20Um, the giants melted out the clock, uh, last week against, uh, the, the, the, the Cowboys.
20:25I think that's like maybe the possible concern of facing the giants.
20:28It's their, their defense is definitely getting a little bit better.
20:31Harbaugh's like put too much emphasis on stopping the run.
20:34Arvel Reese can fly downhill at the same time.
20:36Arvel Reese did, uh, uh, allow a receiving touchdown.
20:39And that's where Kyron Williams has been, uh, like especially important.
20:42There's been games where they'll get Kyron Williams on option routes or kind of leak them out against linebackers.
20:47I can see them testing Arvel Reese as special of a player.
20:50He is, he's still like kind of learning to position.
20:53He didn't get lost a couple of times. So, uh, I'm just rounding up because the Rams are projected for, uh, the fifth most points on the week.
21:01Yeah. Just two second half drives for the Dallas Cowboys last week.
21:04Indicates what you're saying with one, their defense, not being able to stop anyone.
21:08And also how the giants can kind of ball control as much as they want to at times when it's, it's running hot.
21:14You know, a Twitter follower, I think put it really great with Kyron Williams, who last week in a one-sided blowout loss,
21:20the backfield was really one-sided in his favor. Um, but here's what it is, right?
21:24It's really simple. If the Rams score 28 points and they're projected for around that much in this game, Kyron likely scored a touchdown.
21:31And if they are tied or trailing, as we know in week one and last season, Kyron Williams plays 75% snaps.
21:37So it's almost, you get either a touchdown or like really high Kyron usage in either department.
21:42Yeah. I think it's like kind of prevents Blake Horn, like prevents him from being like a weekly top five option.
21:47But he's kind of, kind of, he's going to hover like around this RB one, two border, depending on the matchup.
21:53So he was the RB eight on RB 12 usage in 2025 less last week, RB 16, RB 19 usage.
21:59I'm just going to park them right between that.
22:01Devon HN at the San Francisco 49ers. This is your running back 13.
22:05The dolphins were one of three teams without a snap inside of the 10 yard line.
22:09We know HN can score long touchdowns, but that's also important for him to score other touchdowns.
22:14Is this AT or B tier? Let's go eight here.
22:17Once again, the team total is at 16 points.
22:19That's obviously very, very rough, very bad. It's very bad.
22:22Um, Keaton Proctor has got to play better. I did think that the rest of the offensive line was like, okay, they're
22:28still trying to figure out when they're getting their tight ends kind of sweeping across.
22:32They had their, um, their full back out there.
22:34Like some of that stuff, like wasn't quite hitting quite as well, um, in week one here.
22:39Um, that said, he still caught plenty of passes, uh, in this game, five of them.
22:44In the fourth quarter, they had, uh, 19 plays.
22:46They passed the ball on 18 of 19 of them.
22:49The good news is Devon HN caught three passes, like kind of in that script.
22:53So like, that's going to like keep his floor high.
22:56I don't think that they're going to, uh, average 50 plays per game this season.
23:00You know? And that was like the problem. It's not going to be much higher.
23:04They, I mean, it's that. Hey, we're coming off the 49ers defense, shutting down the LA Rams.
23:09And now they get the Miami dolphins on extra days to prepare for this one.
23:13I'll be a big travel from Australia. Yeah. I was just like, the good news is, is there was a couple of check downs from, from Malik Willis.
23:20I think even better than that, they did design targets to him and the run.
23:25It's also Fred Warner protect like at the linebacker spot.
23:27Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, what should I have him as my RB 20?
23:31I mean, this is already a pretty steep drop off from where like his ADP was.
23:36So yeah, I'm just worried if his ADP was correct, I guess is what I'm saying.
23:40Um, all right. Next up is Deandre Swift as running back 14, a fantastic game for him.
23:45And week one was one of our favorite picks in that next tier of running backs.
23:49And we had him at the top of that grouping as well.
23:53This is though against that Minnesota Vikings defensive front.
23:55So we're going with a tier or starting B tier.
23:58Uh, I want one more eight here here with Deandre Swift, uh, greedy from week five on last year.
24:03That was, uh, when they were by was he's now the RB nine and RB 15 usage.
24:08He's only had a 44% rush air, um, over that stretch as well.
24:11Cause Kyle Nunga gets out there. Caleb Williams obviously has been falling on the ground as well.
24:16Uh, this is a challenging matchup because the Vikings, uh, you just don't catch passes against them.
24:21They had, uh, the fewest amount of receiving guards to running backs, uh, since 2025, once you adjust for their schedule, um,
24:27you can kind of hit them on the ground a little bit there.
24:30Uh, and I kind of just want to keep leaning into that 26 and a half points for the Chicago bear.
24:36Just run right behind, uh, Darnell, right. And see what happens there.
24:40So I think he's a boom bust RB two.
24:42Um, but man, if the bear is going to look like what they did in, uh, last week, even with the rotation,
24:48like this is going to be a lot of fun.
24:51Yeah. The, the bears right now are projected for 26 and a half points against this Vikings defense.
24:56Obviously they put up 59 points on the board last week.
24:59Uh, just Ben Johnson's comments here on Deandre Swift quote.
25:02He's always been a super explosive guy. I think what's happened over the course of his career is just as understanding of
25:08what's going on in the running game where he needs to hit it.
25:11People, I think sometimes put them in a box is more of a scat back, but he's really an all purpose back.
25:17As far as I'm concerned, I'm just really proud of how he's grown to become at this point.
25:22I mean, that's putting it perfectly based on even our conversations of Deandre Swift over the last three years.
25:27Uh, I'm in a dynasty league that I happened to win last year and I sent a first round pick for Deandre Swift.
25:34And after they extended him, it looks like I'm, uh, I'm on the winning side.
25:38There you go. What you'd rather have Deandre Swift at the one 12 than Nicholas Singleton.
25:42He was going in drafts this spring. Pretty much.
25:45That's what happened. Okay. Uh, Brees all then how fitting is the start of the B tier.
25:50This is against the green Bay Packers. Hey, and I think you can make whatever conclusions you want from Brees's week one usage.
25:56Like he was running back 16 and snap percentage.
25:58Uh, there were three snaps inside the five yard line.
26:01Brees all played all three, but at the same time, Braylon Allen had a short yardage run on fourth down that went
26:07for a touchdown that was negated by a penalty.
26:10And he also played four of six snaps on third and fourth and one.
26:13So I don't expect Brees Hall to be like a 75% player.
26:17So at least we don't have to worry about Isaiah Davis, but at some areas we do have to work with brother than Allen here too.
26:24Yeah. I saw the same exact thing. I think it's still a win that Isaiah Davis is like not going to be
26:30out there because Braylon Allen's only going to be so effective in passing situations.
26:34I think that Brees Hall and negative game script will catch the ball, um, with Geno Smith and then Brees Hall just looked really good.
26:41Um, and the offensive line looked really good as well.
26:44And he's going to hit some explosives. So he's not going to have the true bell cow stuff like the other RB ones.
26:50Would it be that surprising if Brees Hall is the RB 11 in fantasy this year?
26:54I don't think it would be that surprising. The Packers, um, without Micah Parsons have been absolutely gashed on the ground.
27:00So Jordan Mason, Aaron Jones combined for a hundred yards and two rushing touchdowns last week over the last four games against the Packers dating back to 2025.
27:08They're allowing 161 rushing yards per game. That's the third fewest.
27:11So jets still projected for only 20 points, but they're typically projected for 16.
27:15So I think that I want to be ranking Brees Hall kind of above where he's been finishing over the last couple of years.
27:21Yeah. The Yahoo expert league. I need Brees Hall to score as the running back 11.
27:26I mean, I took him as my third running back in the flex instead of like Garrett Wilson, for example, or, or other wide receivers.
27:33Uh, so I have to have that to happen and I have to have three stars in Saquon and Ken Walker and
27:39Brees Hall this season order to win that one.
27:41That's for sure. Yeah. You ended men's high. I still can't believe it.
27:45Truly incredible stuff. Uh, he did have fewer routes than Braylon Allen too.
27:48So it's weird. It's this weird dynamic, but we got to figure it out.
27:52Uh, this Packers defense, you can take advantage of them.
27:55I think right now, too. Like both Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones rushed for touchdowns last week.
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28:38Chase Brown is your running back 16. We love Chase Brown during draft season.
28:42Hayden, this is three spots though. Below consensus as running back 13.
28:45Uh, this is at the Houston Texans. Are you expecting a big Texans defensive rebound here?
28:49Yeah, definitely. So, and they stopped James Cook last, last week.
28:52It was everything else that wasn't working. So yeah, like I have very positive notes about Chase Brown's usage, RB six and
28:59RB five usage in the last nine games with Joe Burrow dating back to 2025.
29:03Even on a bigger sample than that, he's been a top 10 fantasy running back.
29:07He handled 71% of the snaps. He was the RB four and expected points last week.
29:1118% target share, six of them. And a lot of that stuff was just kind of like throwing quickly to the flats.
29:17It wasn't like a check down or it's like almost like manufactured touches to him.
29:21So like, yeah, the profile is great. It's the Texans defense.
29:24The second best defense against the run, uh, over the last year.
29:28And like the offensive line is getting a little bit better.
29:31I like that. The, the Bengals have two blocking tight ends now, but I mean, we have to just like tip our cap to the Texans.
29:38The Bengals are 20th and projected points this week.
29:40So a lot of the running backs around him, are you projected for a lot more points?
29:45Um, or they don't have two superstar wide receivers that are going to be stealing touchdowns from, right?
29:50I will say the theory of the pick held true with chase Brown last week.
29:54Like even when the Bengals struggled a little bit offensively, he plays so many snaps and catches so many passes that at worst you should be fine.
30:02You know, he's just like in too good of an environment to be, I think a big loser for you.
30:07Yes. This will be the lowest. I haven't ranked all year.
30:10Okay. Bucky Irving is your running back 17. Is this still B tier for you?
30:14I mean, this is against the Cleveland Browns, eight and a half point favorites.
30:18And we saw the ideal Bucky Irving usage last week.
30:21If I'm being honest, like Bucky, everything probably should be ahead of chase Brown too, but I'm waiting for the Sean Tucker,
30:27um, injury because that's like the one thing I still don't know for sure is if Sean Tucker going to be like
30:33a goal line vulture this year or not, we didn't get that answered last week.
30:37The Buccaneers did not have a goal line, uh, attempt.
30:40Um, but Kenny game was like not that involved.
30:42Bucky Irving caught a bunch of passes in negative game script.
30:45Now he's going to run the ball a ton looking at the data from last week, the Buccaneers, uh, were really run heavy early on in that game.
30:53Then they couldn't be a run heavy because game script got away from him quickly, but against the bank or against the
30:59Browns here, like he's going to run the ball probably 15 to 20 times in this one.
31:04And he looked really good. Like there's, there's really like when he's fully healthy, he really does remind me of James Cook.
31:10Um, and this offensive line is pretty sweet. So I think that he's, if we get goal line carries, I think he's,
31:16he has a chance to be a top 15 running back.
31:19Yeah. He, he looked as close as he possibly could to that Liam Cohen season in, in week one, hopefully that continues.
31:25And this is the right opponent to stack really good games back to back as well.
31:30Dave Montgomery is your running back 18. This is against the Cincinnati Bengals who did really well to stop the run last
31:36week with their additions and just overall improvement on defense on his 20 runs.
31:39Dave Montgomery was hit at or behind the line of scrimmage on 14 of them.
31:44Um, so the touchdowns, you know, make that stat line look amazing.
31:47Obviously the receiving touchdown incredibly helped. Um, but as we talked about in stats versus film, like the snaps were 50, 50,
31:53but he did have five touches inside the 10 compared to zero for what he marks.
31:57Yes. Uh, that was three in a row though, because he didn't get the first couple in because he was getting hit at the line of scrimmage.
32:0516 of 19 carries when for under five yards, removing that goal line touchdown as well.
32:09Um, 50% snap rate. He's when he's on the field, he's like going to get the ball.
32:14So like the snap rate doesn't matter all that much, but Woody marks out that did play pretty well here.
32:19I think, uh, point taken the Bengals defense looked a little bit better.
32:23I don't think it's going to be a great defense.
32:26Like obviously not, but when you have Dexter Lawrence and those two linebackers were so, so behind last year, they just look so inexperienced.
32:32Like those guys will play a little bit better.
32:35You add a safety. Um, so like this Bengals defense is not going to be like the worst unit in the NFL.
32:41Uh, Texans projected for almost 25 points. That's 11th here as well.
32:44So, uh, definitely like this is what an RBT looks like in fantasy.
32:48Yes. Yes. And when the Texans are projected for 25 points, probably means Dave Montgomery's going to score a touchdown.
32:53Yes. Yeah. I'm like back to the Detroit lions days.
32:56Okay. Next is Aaron Jones. And we have our first running back consolidation here.
33:00Uh, the news hit just before we started recording this, that Jordan Mason is going to go on injured reserve with finger surgery.
33:06Hayden, he was running back 31 prior to this.
33:09So I guess you're believing that Aaron Jones is going to get at least what 65% of the work on the road against the Chicago bears here.
33:16Yeah, probably. So I don't think he's going to go into full bell cow work just based off his injury history and
33:22his size and age and a lot of type of stuff.
33:25But back in 2024, he was half PPRs RB 20 per game last year.
33:29Definitely a disaster RB 35 on a per game basis.
33:32But that was because the quarterback play was so bad.
33:35Um, I thought that Aaron Jones like looked fine enough.
33:37He's like, not like one of the best running backs in the league.
33:41He's not completely, completely washed either. And he should be better early on in the season.
33:45And the players behind them are just like too unproven.
33:48Like, I'm very curious to see if they're going to use their rookie, um, out there, or if it's going to be
33:54kind of more like, like veterans off the street.
33:57So, um, they were really run heavy in week one.
33:59And that's something I want to pay attention to because when you listen to the Vikings, uh, coaching staff, they talk about
34:05like their offensive lines, like actually really good. And in years prior, like they didn't trust their offensive line.
34:11Maybe that's why they were so pass heavy, but this might be a, maybe a little bit more balanced of an offense.
34:17And I mean, I've seen Aaron Jones be a top 20 running back for, for too many years to not give them a chance out of here.
34:24Okay. Is Kim Scadaboo in B tier? Uh, let's move him down.
34:27Let's move him down. Hey, so I think we're going to be pretty fat here on the C and D tier.
34:33So Kim Scadaboo's at the LA Rams, obviously coming back from Australia, but you know what they chose to do coming in
34:3924 hours before, hopefully their bodies don't have to adjust as much, but they need a big rebound performance, uh, defensively.
34:45And no, Harbaugh was asked how, you know, the giants were able to be so good offensively.
34:50He said, well, I think it probably started with Scadaboo.
34:53He was running really, really hard, really, really well set the tempo brought the energy juice.
34:57Thought his reads were really good. That's exactly what we want to hear with Scad.
35:01You know, I'm convinced. Let's put some respect. Let's put them in the B tier here.
35:06Let's put them in the B tier. Um, I agree.
35:08Like I thought he ran the ball really, really well in that game.
35:12He's like very clearly going to get the ball 15 times, whether they're winning, losing, or it's a tie.
35:17Um, I don't think that Aaron Donald's going to play.
35:20There's that's kind of like a mystery. We'll learn.
35:22We'll learn later. Even if he does play, he's going to be on a pitch count.
35:27No miles Garrett here. So it's still a tough matchup.
35:29They're still projected to lose by seven points. I'm very curious to see if they're going to throw the ball to cam
35:36Scadaboo, or if it's like, can be very defined where single terry's going to catch the balls in the flat, like he did in week one in Scadaboo.
35:43They're saving his body so they can like, so he can head, but guys, uh, in the eight gap, which he did, uh, uh, relentlessly in week one.
35:51So I think that's like going to be the one thing.
35:54If he catches passes, he can be the RB 12 this year.
35:57He doesn't catch passes. He's going to be the RB 21.
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36:14Chuba Hubbard as running back 21. He is a few spots behind in consensus rankings.
36:18This is on the road at the Atlanta Falcons.
36:21We just saw the Panthers post a ton of points Hayden, and they should be able to do that again.
36:26In a matchup that they have done that in previous seasons with worst offenses.
36:30Chuba Hubbard's lit up the Falcons in previous, uh, starts 103 and 76 total yards in his last two starts against the Falcons.
36:36They're down both. They're starting edge rushers right now.
36:39The betting markets have Chuba Hubbard as the RB 17 in total yards here.
36:43And the Panthers are 16th in projected points at 23, despite being on the road game script could be on their side because they're facing Cooper rush here.
36:50And just rewinding the clock on Chuba Hubbard back in 2024.
36:54Not that long ago. He was the half PPRs per game RB 12 on RB seven usage.
36:58Then you look at the playoff loss last year against the Rams 17 opportunities.
37:02And that one scores two touchdowns. Then last week in week one, 13.9 expected half PPR points.
37:07That's RB 15. He finishes the RB nine. He handled both goal line attempts.
37:11John, the Brooks played just a little bit, but not even like in the passing situations.
37:15He caught that one broken play down the field, but it was not like Chuba Hubbard can't catch passes in this offense.
37:21There's really like, there's not many negative notes you can say about you covered right now.
37:25Like this ranking might be too low. And with the Panthers offensive line, as long as Rob Hunt and Damian Lewis are
37:32in there, the running game works, you know, last season, it broke down because then Brady Christensen had to pop in.
37:37He was good. But then they went to like their third and fourth guards at both spots.
37:42And so both those guards are in there. Plus Monroe feeling was moving people during week one on top of this surprise.
37:48Then yeah, Chuba Hubbard is truly one of those backs.
37:51That was what in the running back 30 range, like 33 overall.
37:54And he should be a top 24 running back for as long as the split happens.
37:59And then obviously when the Panthers are two and a half point favorites on the road, like they are in this one,
38:05running back 21 makes a ton of sense. It's on Jonathan Brooks to make this an actual debate.
38:10And if you were able to get him that deep in running backs in your draft, then Chuba Hubbard is like an
38:16auto flex for you among all the like mind melting conundrums at wide receiver.
38:19You just get to have Chuba Hubbard in your flex and have three running backs in your starting lineup.
38:25Pretty easy. Free parking. Free parking. All right. Next is Travis H.
38:28And unfortunately, this is another conversation. This is at the Baltimore Ravens.
38:31Hayden, he was running back 18 and snap percentage and week one.
38:35I gave my theory on the week one weirdness.
38:37I don't know if I asked you what yours is.
38:40I have no theory. I'm perplexed. CJ Donaldson was out there in pass protection as an undrafted free agent rookie.
38:45Now, H has never been good in pass protection.
38:48It's like I can somewhat understand that one. Kendra Miller going like snap for snap on early downs with with Travis H.
38:54And that made no sense. Game script got away from him in that game.
38:58Travis H. And at least I think had a season or a career high in receptions in that one to kind of like backdoor.
39:04It's like RB to finish. He's going to have to do that again because they're also projected to lose by eight and
39:10a half points in Baltimore against Kyle Hamilton and those guys.
39:13That's going to be an issue. I don't know.
39:16I guess I hope your theory is correct that he's just like playing through something, but he's not on the injury report.
39:22So like. I don't know. I've heard clips from them, like their offensive coordinator and their play call.
39:27And obviously the GM just signed them. They're like, this guy is awesome.
39:31And then like week one comes to here and like, what do they say about Kendra Miller?
39:35Is Kendra Miller like a favorite on CJ Donaldson?
39:38CJ did a really good job through training camp and preseason.
39:41He's got a nice special teams role. He can obviously play in third down protection.
39:45I think he's done a nice job with that.
39:47And then he was able to play some snaps in some short yard situations.
39:51I think this is all positive for him. On top of that, Kendra Miller had both backfield touches inside of the 10
39:57yard line, converted that eight yard touchdown. Travis HN was running back 24 in percent of dropbacks played in week one at like 39%.
40:04And then on top of this, like Tyler Shuck and the offense have to play well from the first series.
40:09If they have a slow start like they did last week, this isn't the line defense that you're facing.
40:15It is the Baltimore Ravens defense. And they're not going to let you back in it like the Saints did last week.
40:21So yeah, just like alarm bells all over this one.
40:23Hopefully we get one of these matchups that like settles it all down and it gets back to normal here.
40:29And Alvin Kamara could play this week. I don't know that if it's going to happen or not.
40:34That was without Alvin Kamara. So very odd situation.
40:36I'll double check over the cap, making sure that they did pay him all that money.
40:41They did pay him all that money. I don't know why.
40:44Ramondre Stevenson is your running back 23. This is a few spots below consensus at running back 20.
40:49It sounds like Trevon Henderson might play this week more so than last week.
40:53He's doing more in practice each day. Is there going to be an alteration if Trevon is in or out or is this anticipating him play?
41:00This is anticipating Trevon out there. So maybe that's why I'm a little bit lower in consensus rankings there.
41:05Obviously, I'd move him up. Definitely probably like ahead of like, you know, Aaron Jones, David Montgomery, Bucky Irving tier without Trevon.
41:11Um, I'm expecting Trevon to get in there and mix in behind Ramondre Stevenson, probably maybe not as drastic as a split,
41:17uh, in the postseason where Trevon like literally had like three fancy points per game.
41:21And Ramondre was kind of like, you know, the RB 28 on a per game basis.
41:26Um, matchup is like pretty solid here. Steelers, um, are only projected for 18 points.
41:30So even without AJ Brown, the Patriots are expected to win by five and a half.
41:34So game scripts on his size. Ramondre is a good player.
41:37Um, and the offensive line, uh, I thought that they got their ass kicked, but that was also against the Seahawks and,
41:43uh, they do a lot of funky stuff. Um, so like, you know, Steelers are also, they have some awesome defensive linemen too.
41:50So, um, I think he's more of like a flex play than an RB two.
41:54I would hesitate for anyone to make conclusions about an offense and especially a quarterback's play against the Seattle Seahawks.
41:59I mean, the best quarterbacks out there from Josh Allen to what we saw with Drake may to, you know, Bryce young,
42:05I've really struggled against the Seattle Seahawks defense. Just to put that in perspective, I was watching the Drake may film there.
42:11They had a single high safety in the middle of the field.
42:15Pre-snap. He rotated down, not down. He rotated all the way to the flat at the snap.
42:19And then the guy that was in the flats was all of a sudden playing all the way back.
42:25Like when they're rotating stuff, it's not like, Oh, he's rotating into the box.
42:29Like, no, he's, he's playing the flat. Like you can't, you have no idea what you're going to see against the Seahawks right now.
42:35Ready for a take is Mike McDonald, new era, Bill Belichick.
42:38Yes. Except like smiles more and has like some level of personality, like, and is kind to reporters, you know?
42:44Yeah. Yeah. Agree. Tweet it. I bet Mike McDonald would be really good on a television show.
42:48I'm just saying. All right. Next is Basial Tootin as running back 24.
42:52This is at the Denver Broncos, which is notable because Tootin broke a number of tackles, created extra yards, and now he
42:58gets the Broncos defense that missed the most tackles in week one.
43:01But who knows if that's going to carry over here?
43:04Yeah. It was like shocking to watch the Broncos play that bad tackling.
43:08It was just like not something they've ever done before.
43:10So we'll see there. Basial Tootin had, he definitely had a good game.
43:14I thought he missed a couple reads, but in general, like I didn't, after listening to Stats for film, I was being too critical of him.
43:21He broke too many tackles to be that critical.
43:24He did some of the Basial Tootin stuff that I don't love.
43:27But when you're that athletic, you're going to be making people miss like you live with it.
43:32And that's exactly what Liam Cohn was saying after the game.
43:35So Chris Rodriguez played some. I think they had the same amount of snaps going into halftime in the fourth quarter, a
43:41complete blowout, which I'm not expecting in this one.
43:43Jacksonville is actually expected to lose by a couple points.
43:46Um, they really gave Basial Tootin a bunch of carries at the end to give them a little bit more experience.
43:52Um, and yeah, I'm still just don't know who's going to be the goal line back.
43:56If I knew that Basial Tootin is going to get half the half of them, I would move them up.
44:02I'm guessing it's still going to be some Chris Rodriguez there, but I think it'll probably be a committee, um, all across the field.
44:08It might be difficult this week, but in the future, like I wish Basial Tootin was given like the first and second
44:14levels a little bit more, maybe with some better wide receiver blocking.
44:18And so then the first tackle he has to break is at the second or third level, because even in this past
44:24game against the Browns, if he had been able to avoid one more defender, then he's very close, like a 40 yarder,
44:30you know, and we haven't really seen a 40 yarder yet from Basial Tootin, but I think it's on the way from him.
44:36Definitely. So he's way too up. Like he's going to have those moments.
44:40I will say Jacksonville's offensive line is just not very good.
44:43You know, they, they held, they held their own against Pat and pass protection.
44:47They, it was not like he had wide open lanes on the ground there.
44:50And I think we signed up, we knew that was going to be the case.
44:55And that was the case last year as well.
44:57So, um, yeah. Jeremiah love is your running back 25 from a town perspective.
45:01This is much higher. Again, I'll keep bringing this up.
45:04Michael Thor handled breeze hall during his rookie season.
45:06That was with a slow start, 12, eight, 14 touches in the opening three games.
45:10Kind of sound like the floor, like the volume and the number of snaps that Jeremiah love got last week.
45:16So it really might take until like the fourth game for Jeremiah love to be the one, a bell cow type stuff.
45:22Yep. I just be patient with Jeremiah love. I think he's firmly a flex.
45:26He's not even an RB two right now because Algier, um, is going to get some of the goal line work.
45:31Jeremiah love looked awesome though. He's going to catch passes in negative game scripts.
45:35Like last week they were winning by so much so early.
45:38Uh, and now they're three and a half dogs to the Seahawks.
45:42Now the problem is like, it's a Seahawks. So correct.
45:44Nobody scores against Seahawks. Um, so like Ramon or Stevenson was like an RB two as a bell cow against the Seahawks.
45:50Jeremiah loves not going to be a bell cow.
45:53So like this is like a flex. And I do think that there are some teams out there where he could be a bench candidate in this one.
46:01Um, but I'm really hoping he just keeps ripping off big plays and it makes this one like a no contest without deer.
46:07Can we talk about our death league for a moment?
46:10Because I was doing waivers last night and the death league, like put me in a spiral.
46:14Nate Tice, shout out Nate. Uh, I think faced me and he got eliminated first and his three players.
46:20And this is why it was Jamar chase and Colson Loveland.
46:23And he also had Jeremiah love like, and then Quinchon Judkins and Jamison Williams.
46:27That's just what, like a 14 team death league on top of it.
46:30Yes. Um, but then like when you see those players on waivers and you have a $1,000 fab budget, it's like, Oh,
46:36I just want to spend all of it on Jamar chase.
46:39And then a quarter of it on Jeremiah love and all that type of stuff.
46:43I did a little bit of research and everyone that has played in these leagues before Hayden says you can never, and
46:49I mean, never deliver half of your budget on one player.
46:52Uh, because then the teams and the waivers get even better as the season goes along and you need to have the budgets for that.
46:59And so I ended up underbidding everyone. Whereas what I think chase went for like $490.
47:04Jeremiah love went for like two 50. And then you picked up Colson Loveland for one Oh one or something like that.
47:10Yeah. How I'm handling that. And by the way, you guys should play these leagues on, um, Yahoo death leagues.
47:15Uh, sorry. Uh, I'm canceled. Uh, I wanted Colson Loveland because I punted off of a position.
47:20I punted off tight ends and there's only a couple of tight ends that I felt good about.
47:25So that's how I kind of handle it is like, okay, punt off one position.
47:29And then the second that guy is available, like go after it.
47:32So that's how, that's how I'm handling is. I'm glad to God love them there.
47:37That's what I'm going to get even weirder. Once like half the league is gone.
47:41And then you're just going to have so many people on waivers on top of this.
47:45So I'll keep you guys updated. This first time for me playing that.
47:49And it was same mind melting. Next is Jadarian price.
47:51We had a long conversation about him on stats versus film.
47:54Uh, I'm hoping there's something about, Hey, they played on Wednesday in the opener, rookie debut, all that type of stuff.
48:00And maybe, and he looked awesome. And so maybe he gets a couple more snaps here and there, uh, or it's exactly
48:06the same workload that can walk for the third gosh.
48:09That was RB 22 and RB 28 usage, uh, with, with Zach Charbonnet healthy for, for Kenneth Walker.
48:14That Seahawks team was putting up 30 points. Uh, they're right now projected for 22 and a half.
48:19So I think like you're hoping for the Kenneth Walker numbers from the regular season last year for price.
48:24Uh, it made me nervous that Emmanuel Wilson played four snaps.
48:27Three of them were when he was subbed in for plays with two or fewer yards to go.
48:32Like that just can't happen. That was like the shocking part of it.
48:36I'm not that surprised. I didn't play any snaps on third and fourth downs.
48:40Um, but he looks, he looked awesome. So, um, you're, you're hoping here, like we're, we're firmly in flex tears right now.
48:46I will say he's still projected for 74 and a half, uh, yards, uh, total yards here.
48:50How many wide receivers project for 74 and a half yards?
48:53Like it's probably 13 of them. So he's still like better than the wider, the fancy wide receiver that you want to play here.
49:00Next is Jalen Warren, your guy running back 27 here.
49:03This is at the new England Patriots. Um, what do you want to say about this backfield?
49:07Because again, it was basically 50 50 this past week, but you're still in the camp of holding out and believing that
49:14Jalen Warren is, is going to earn a kind of larger piece or let's say the more valuable piece of this group.
49:20Yeah, I think it's just more valuable and he's more likely to catch a couple of passes.
49:24I think that he's a better football player. Um, but the problem this week is it's going to be a committee until proven otherwise.
49:31Um, and it kind of like rotated like full drives.
49:34Um, and the Steelers are projected for 18 points.
49:36They did not have a clean showing last week.
49:39Uh, Rico Dowdle had an 8% success rate on the ground.
49:42Like that's Rico Dowdle is not an 8% success rate rusher.
49:45Like that they had just straight up issues, uh, on offense.
49:48Um, and it's just a much tougher matchup against the Patriots.
49:51At least they don't, the Patriots don't have like Tonga this year.
49:54But they still just want to put a bunch of guys up in the box and they have, uh, Christian Gonzalez against DK Metcalf and like everything else.
50:02It was like a little bit, you know, hit and miss.
50:05Yeah. They were top three neutral pass rates. So Mike McCarthy had this quote.
50:09This is from Mike nuggets, by the way. Uh, excellent resource quote.
50:12You definitely got to give your passing game a little more opportunity this time of year.
50:16If you think you're going to come out here and throw it in January.
50:20So I'm cognizant of that, but I definitely would like to be north of 25 carries each and every week, closer to 30 plus running the ball.
50:28If I was going to draw up the perfect game.
50:30So theoretically he wants to run the football more, but in practicality last week, he did not at all.
50:36No, I, I hate the target number that we have to hit as total carries in a game.
50:41It turns out you run the ball more when you have a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter.
50:46It's like typically the best teams do run the ball a little bit more.
50:50It's not because they were running the ball the entire game.
50:53Okay. It's Quinchon Judkins at the Tampa Buccaneers as you're running back 28.
50:56Is this still C tier just because he's going to get so much volume or let's say the largest market share of volume in this category?
51:03Probably. I would go D tier. I would say you can put them in the flex, but look, they're projected for 16 and a half points.
51:11And this is a past funnel defense with Vita Veya.
51:13Um, if you were going to nitpick the, the Buccaneers is last week, Chase Brown had a couple of runs like right
51:19at Reuben Bain where he was just getting annihilated.
51:22So like, maybe there's like a weak spot here, but I just don't trust the Browns, the Browns offensive line.
51:27I thought it was still a mess. Quinchon's good.
51:30There's no Dylan Sampson, but unfortunately Quinchon like did not like increase his role that much.
51:34Like they just put rockets Sanders in the Dylan Sampson role.
51:37Maybe they'll, maybe they'll change that like kind of as the game plan and like try to get Quinchon more involved, but
51:43he's, he's never been like this awesome receiver. He's kind of been this kind of early down guy and you can only
51:49give him so many touches coming off that injury.
51:52So I think he's a low end flex in, in half PPR.
51:55Yeah. I think they also promoted Jaleel McLaughlin from the practice squad as well.
51:59And he's of that styling of a back on top of it.
52:02Okay. So we basically have escaped flex consideration territory is what you're telling me in an ideal world.
52:07Yes. In an ideal world. Now some of our subscribers don't live in an ideal world.
52:12Okay. Marshawn Lloyd is your running back 29. I said in stats versus film that I still need to be proven if
52:18he's more than like a replaceable replacement level back.
52:20But Hey, now I'll add that this is his real week one at the New York jets.
52:25This is not against a Brian Flores defense where, you know, Chris Brooks led all running backs with 20 past protection snaps in week one.
52:32That's why he was a starter and why he played so much.
52:35If that continues here into week two, then you have like major problems.
52:39If you draft him, Marshawn Lloyd. I just feel way better about this spot than the last one.
52:44They're projected for 24 points or expected to win here.
52:47You don't have chaos and Brian Flores out there.
52:49Marshawn Lloyd. He's not my favorite player, but he is really explosive.
52:52And like, there's a chance that he can catch the ball on the flats and like take off.
52:57And I still think that he would probably get the goal line touch over Chris Brooks.
53:02I'm not positive about that. We didn't see any Caleb Johnson.
53:05I do wonder like, you know, there's only a couple, a couple more weeks left.
53:09Most likely until Jacobs gets back. Like at some point they're probably going to get Caleb Johnson involved a little bit.
53:15Maybe that happens here. So I don't feel great about the spot.
53:18And then the big news is the Packers interior offensive line.
53:21Like you can put it up there with the Titans and the, or it's worse.
53:25The interior offensive line is worse than the Titans.
53:28It's, it's as bad as it gets. And that's not going to change.
53:31Common on guys. You're running back 30 against the Vikings defense for missing the preseason.
53:35Hayden, he certainly looked fast for. Yep. And faster than his four, six time speed.
53:39But again, we're facing against a Brian Flores defense here.
53:42Yep. You just, you just don't catch the ball against the Vikings as running backs.
53:46Now that's not like the biggest thing for Kyle Manungai.
53:49He's, he's interesting because he has like a huge spike week, like once every six ish games.
53:54And then the other games, like he's like the RB 38.
53:57So if you're comfortable with that, that's, that's fine.
53:59Last week, RB 32 and expected points as they were absolutely rolling against a team that you like want to run the ball against.
54:06So kind of dropping them down from there. Let's talk bill.
54:09He's your running back 31 at the Dallas Cowboys and their defense that was run all over and passed all over last week.
54:15Um, what'd you think of bill when you went back and looked at the stats and watched him?
54:20Uh, I thought that he looked like laterally, like explosive, like relative to the other backs.
54:25The part that makes me a little bit nervous is one.
54:28He was like very clearly subbed out in like obvious passing situations.
54:31And that was kind of as expected. My problem with him just like for this week is making sure that like, they're going to stay committed to him.
54:39His fumble. I didn't realize how bad the, the fumble was, uh, that happened with four minutes to go.
54:44His team recovers it. He gets subbed out and they're trying to win the game.
54:48Like this is like not garbage. I'm like, they're down eight points and the rest of the game.
54:53It's only, um, Katron Allen. And it's only Rashad white.
54:56Yes. But like that's they're down eight. And it was that play.
54:59And then Ja'Cory Krosky married did not play a single snap after that.
55:03So like you could, if you wanted to read this, like that he was benched in that moment.
55:08Now, I don't think he's gonna be permanently benched here, but like, that's at least in the back of my mind.
55:13I still think it's just too low. Like let's put him, uh, ahead of Marshawn Lloyd here.
55:18Um, but it's not the cleanest, um, spot, uh, in general, just because like, it's going to be a committee and like,
55:24you at least have kind of like the, what just happened in the fourth quarter of that game.
55:29So Ben standing who probably did this for us for fancy purposes did ask Dan Quinn directly about the fumble and if
55:35that's going to impact bill and Dan Quinn said, quote, I think the ball security is definitely a premium for us.
55:41But then he immediately went to this, that I love the Twitch that you see with bill.
55:46We can get him into the second and third level.
55:48He presents a real problem from a tackling standpoint.
55:51So I just think the more reps he gets more time, he's seeing the blocks, the offensive line, knowing where he is.
55:57Those are the things that just need time on task.
56:00But I'm pleased with what we've seen so far.
56:02So if I'm reading that, then rather than going in on him about the fumble, it's more, hey, we actually need to play him more.
56:09Yeah, maybe so. He's had fumble issues in the past.
56:12Like this is like kind of one of the situation.
56:15If he fumbles this week, it's like real bad.
56:17Yes. Um, so I think we're most likely safe, but like we got on the recap show and was like, oh, he
56:23played 42% of the snaps and Katron that made it the three back committee.
56:27Like that wouldn't be like the most shocking thing either.
56:30I also think, and maybe it probably shouldn't. It also helps when you recover a fumble versus going to the other team, just inherently, you know?
56:37And that helps. Josh currently helped him out. Yes.
56:39Uh, okay. JK Dobbins versus the Jacksonville Jaguars is here.
56:42This Jaguars defensive line. You it's something you can't screw around with.
56:45Now, obviously the Broncos offensive line has been quite good in recent years was not good in week one.
56:51And so again, this is on the road and JK Dobbins has to have a rushing touchdown to be relevant.
56:56It is that something they are projected for 24 points.
56:59So like maybe by the end of the week, I feel a little bit more comfortable to slide them up.
57:04Yeah, I really hope so. That would be great for my bags.
57:08Um, we'll see about Jonah Coleman. They didn't play him at all.
57:11I'm guessing most, the most likely outcome is that doesn't change this week.
57:15I think by the end of the season and it will change, but like if they didn't play him in week one,
57:21I don't know why they would all of a sudden play in week two.
57:25Jacksonville is. They're going to be very difficult to run the ball.
57:28That it's just, it's as simple as that. Um, uh, and RJ Harvey was out there for not just receiving stuff.
57:34He had some, um, uh, rush attempts early on in that game.
57:37So yeah, it was obviously the worst, uh, possible situation in terms of game script last week.
57:42That's not going to be the case in most games for JK Dobbins, but there's also like not that huge of a ceiling.
57:48I will say he, he did have one rep where he cut the ball outside and I thought that he looked really quick.
57:54And I was like, Oh, that looks like the same old JK Dobbins.
57:58Like he's some somehow comes back from injury and like still looks like the same exact player every single time.
58:03So like credit, credit to him for, for being able to do that.
58:07The general Coleman point, you know, sometimes the real fantasy values are some of the players that get cut in week one.
58:13I'm not saying it's going to happen in week two, but again, if the Broncos often struggles, which it might against the
58:19Jaguars defense, as we brought up in stats versus film, they have to like try to inject something in there.
58:25And maybe over the course of the next few weeks, that could be Jonah Coleman.
58:29Cause he is like the only one that like didn't play.
58:32Well, also JK Dobbins and RJ Harvey both got steamrolled in pass protection to get bone nicks killed like both of them.
58:38So even if, even if they're running the ball pretty well, uh, and the team looks better, if like we have more
58:44pass protection issues from the running backs in this game, as we had the last one, like they're going to have to get Jonah Coleman out there.
58:51That's like one of the calling cards for Coleman's profile.
58:54Right. So my point in that is Jonah Coleman was probably dropped for like Kalen black, which makes sense, uh, or maybe some other wide receiver.
59:01So if he's now available in your league, a speculative ad, I think is potentially there if you missed out on some others.
59:08Uh, okay. Tony Pollard is, I think the last backfield that we have not discussed yet.
59:12This is, uh, against the Philadelphia Eagles. Um, I mean the Titans run game was just neutered from the jump over the last four games, including last season.
59:20And that's with Ty J Spears mixing in at the end of the last season.
59:24He's the RB 41 on RB 37 usage. Titans are 31st and projected points.
59:28They looked miserable last week. I thought cam Ward had a terrible showing and it was maybe even more concerning because I
59:34didn't think that the offensive line was even that bad.
59:37It was just like cam Ward just like stunk, uh, scheme.
59:40I don't think was that great either. Uh, and this is a split Ty J Spears played, uh, like pretty much like
59:46every kind of other drive as we saw last year.
59:48And Tony Pollard lost a bunch of snaps and touches in the second half of the game when they were losing by a lot.
59:55Now they get to fill it up. The Eagles.
59:57Yeah. It's over. Yeah. Uh, and again, they played the fewest amount of heavier personnel sets in the NFL in week one.
60:04And actually two of their best runs came out of those heavier personnel looks.
60:07So, okay. I'm going to throw everyone else on the board here.
60:11Hayden from Rico Dowdle to RJ Harvey to Blake Corum to Kalen Black.
60:14Uh, I mean, you also have Trevion and Tyler Algier and Chris Rodriguez and Alvin Kamara and all sorts.
60:19Pick one of these names. If you want to say anything about anyone here.
60:23I think these are not flex guys. These are kind of bench stashes and kind of wait and see if I, if
60:29I had to pick one, I guess it would be like RJ Harvey, um, getting him out in space against like the linebackers.
60:36It'd be something like that. But, uh, cause he did play like plenty enough and he's got some juice and they do
60:42do some of the red zone stuff. And if we don't think they're going to be able to run the ball, uh,
60:48like the four yard line against that team, like maybe they get a little bit creative.
60:52So like, that would be like my, my dart throw.
60:55But if you're starting these guys, you're, you're in trouble.
60:58I think Corum could be one too with the Rams project for 27 and a half.
61:02Yep. Yeah. Same thing with Kalen Black, Blake Corum, Kalen Black.
61:05It's, you know, they're winning by a lot and they're rotating drives.
61:09Cause Corum was good in his carries last week.
61:11He's just not as trusted, especially in passing situations as Kyron is.
61:14And when you're trailing by 18 points or whatever it was, then that's where he's going to sit.
61:19But you know, if they're tied and the markets have them winning by seven and a half, then I think there's a
61:25chance that both Kyron and Blake Corum get in the end zone for this game.
61:29Yeah. I think Corum's really good. Like just watching him like that, that, that to me is an NFL starter.
61:35All right. That does it. Thanks for tuning in everyone again.
61:38Oh, I forgot to talk about the lions and bills wide receivers.
61:41Any final notes on that real quick? I mean, is it as simple as, Hey, you start DJ more.
61:47Hey, you start. I'm on Ross St. Brown. And then is Jamison Williams the only question here?
61:51Whereas in week one, his stat line would have looked a whole lot better if he didn't have the drops, but he has a case of drops.
61:59He's kind of over the last 10 games or so.
62:01I guess my biggest take is I got DJ more as my wider super 13 on the week.
62:06Just like, let's just party right away. His role was awesome.
62:09He looked explosive and they want to pass the ball a little bit more than maybe we were expecting.
62:15And the lion secondary, they keep losing guys. Like I think DJ Reed's going to miss this game.
62:20Rock Yassin was limping off last week. Like secondary was bad.
62:23They're getting worse every, like every hour. I refresh the timeline.
62:26It seems to be getting worse there. Jamo is, he's going to be the more challenging one because Sam Laporta was getting some work over the middle.
62:33I think there, there's some historical on off splits with Jameson Williams.
62:36Like there's lower volume. The type of volume that he gets with Sam Laporte is typically more down the football field, which
62:42means that Jamo is like going to finish as like the wide receiver 10 or like the wide receiver 80.
62:48And you know, like me trying to figure out which one that's going to be on a week to week basis is going to be hard.
62:55So I pretty much have like no choice. I put Jamison Williams, like my wide receiver 30.
63:00And like you guys got to live with the results.
63:03If you have Jamison Williams, now it's good to live with results when you're ready for 25 points.
63:08So I think it's not the worst situation. I think he's going to probably face Christian Benford, who was shadowing Nico Collins last week.
63:14I don't think he's going to be going into the slot against Amon.
63:18Yeah. Every single Detroit Lions fan is asking Brad Holmes to trade for Joey Porter Jr.
63:22So we'll see. That'd be, that'd be pretty sick.
63:25That'd be pretty sick. Yeah. They don't have either of their safeties.
63:28And with the vertical passing game, especially with Don Kincaid in there.
63:31I mean, hopefully, hopefully, hopefully Thursday night football does not curse us.
63:35And we actually get points here that is projected in the markets out there for what a 54 and a half total right now.
63:41Please. I need to do it. All right. That does it for us.
63:45We'll be back here on Friday with wide receiver rankings.
63:47Then we do all over again with a, let's say, refreshed, refined Sunday morning show with even more of your questions answered at 10 30 AM Eastern.
63:55And we'll finish it off with Sunday night recap.
63:57All right, everyone up the bell. Talk to you guys soon.
64:00See ya.