0:00Oh yes, we are back with the best fantasy football game by game recap show in the world.
0:05And it's even better this year because I've got some buddies to join us.
0:09Matt Harmon, Ray Garvin, our new co-hosts, co-workers, everything of the sort here at Yahoo.
0:14Hayden, but first I'm gonna throw it to you.
0:17You know, we do months and months, almost 100 episodes this summer of research.
0:21And it's very cool in week one when Khalif Raymond goes eight catches for 84 yards and Jamar Chase two catches for 12 yards.
0:28How do you feel? Well, if you told me the Bears would have 59 points, you'd probably be taking Luther Byrd and
0:34Colson Loveland in what the first and second round.
0:37And then of course we actually get the results and we realize half of our takes are wrong.
0:42Yes. Well, let's not waste any more time and dive first into that game that Ray has a hold of as you
0:49know, Ben Johnson a couple weeks ago in a press conference.
0:52Ray said that he wants his offense to set the NFL record in points for a season.
0:57That would be the 2013 Denver Broncos at 39 per contest.
1:00Ray, Caleb Williams, Ben Johnson and company dropped 59 on this Carolina Panthers defense.
1:04How they do it. Can we just start by saying, wow, what a freaking game.
1:0959 points by the Bears and you talk about how they did it.
1:13Josh, 70 plays 552 yards, 7.9 yards per play for the Chicago Bears.
1:17And if you would have told me that was going to happen coming into the week, I'd have been like Loveland smash.
1:23So doing's a smash burden smash. I think they combined for a grand total of seven perceptions between the three pass catchers there.
1:30But just Chicago, this was such a great game plan by Ben Johnson and the Bears.
1:35You would think that they just went around and threw the ball all over the place.
1:3955% rush rates of 44% pass rate, 48% neutral pass rate for the Bears.
1:43They had two 100 yard rushers in this matchup and they set a litany of records.
1:4896 combined points, most NFL history for week one.
1:51The Bears 291 rushing yards and six touchdowns since 1999.
1:54This is only the second team performance combining six plus rushing TDs with two 100 yard rushers joining the 2017 Saints.
2:00I mean, it was, I'm just watching it y'all.
2:03And I'm just going to say this, just watching the game, watching the way that Caleb played, the way that they ran the ball.
2:10This didn't look like a year three, like kind of level up for Caleb Williams.
2:14I mean, he looked in total command of this offense and it looks like he's playing like it's one weekend y'all.
2:20But MVP caliber football, just the command, the poise, their ability to run the ball.
2:25Outstanding performance from Chicago's offensive side of the ball.
2:28Let's not, let's not overlook the fact that they also gave up 52 points on the defensive side, but offensively flawless game plan by Ben Johnson.
2:35It's going to feel like a big 12 offense and defense for Chicago.
2:39I like starting with the running backs here. I'm looking at it.
2:43Both of them had over two yards before contact one.
2:46That's an issue for the Carolina Panthers. They spent a lot of money on that defensive line and linebacker group this offseason.
2:52The Bears still putting it together. A question to you, Ray.
2:55If Deandre Swift and common, I kind of do this drive by drive rotation.
2:59I'm assuming that's what happened here. If the Bears really are a top three offense this year, like can we get DeAndre
3:06Swift as like a top 12 fantasy running back here?
3:09He was drafted just outside that, but he was somebody climbing up ADP.
3:13And by the end of it, everyone kind of felt really good about him as a mid to high fourth rounder.
3:19Yeah, Swift 61% of the backfield opportunities compared to 38.7% for common guy.
3:23The interesting thing Hayden was when non guy ran five more routes than Swift 16 routes on the day to 11 routes for Deandre Swift.
3:30So you would think that that number would be flipped a little bit, but the way that they blocked, I mean, they completely dominated the line of scrimmage.
3:38Caleb Williams was not under pressure a lot in this game.
3:42I think there's some more upside to Deandre Swift's game than maybe we accounted for coming into the season.
3:47So I'm going to say the way that we saw them play the balance of the attack and I know it felt
3:54like kind of they alternated drives, but it was a lot of Swift early again 61% of the backfield opportunities.
4:00Yeah, if you drafted Swift, you got to be feeling pretty damn good right now after this game.
4:05Yeah, I mean that 61 yarder for common on guy happened super late Matt.
4:09I mean for me the question is how does the defense stop this version if the Bears are going on and on
4:16and on about this like Caleb Williams obviously as a thrower was fantastic Matt.
4:20I'm sure you saw like the alley you pass he had to roam with Dunsay along the sideline Luther Burden can now
4:26sit in zone coverage and win in isolated situations.
4:29But what stood out to me was Caleb Williams also in a 29 yard touchdown run that he avoid sacks avoids pressure
4:36shows some like real juice to his game. So Matt while we argued about all these pieces around Caleb Williams and then
4:42the day I felt like this was the Caleb Williams show with four total touchdowns.
4:46He had a hand in I would totally agree with that and the bit that I got to see from this game.
4:53He looked so fast when he would take like when he was decisive and got out of there, you know, he talked
4:59about this that he lost some weight in the offseason wanted to trim down to be more explosive.
5:05And I mean one week in definitely check that box to me, but Ray.
5:09I mean listen, I got to ask you wide receiver one overall on the week Jalen Coker.
5:14I mean can we have a moment for that?
5:17Like let's let's not take it away from me here like five minutes into the show.
5:21I realize it is the carnival team, you know shout out Scott Pino ski and he and I were talking about that today.
5:28We've officially decided the Bears are the carnival team of this season.
5:32So all that caveat, you know mentioned here. I'm still pretty impressive performance for our guy Jalen Coker, right?
5:37Yeah, I'm gonna be real with y'all. I'm gonna be real with y'all just watching the flow of the game watching those two wide receivers on the field.
5:46If you wouldn't have told me one was a first round pick and one was an undrafted free agent.
5:51I mean Coker looked great full stop. Yes, full stop.
5:54I mean he looked better. He looked better than I expected in Matt.
5:58You know, we talked about it early in the in the offseason.
6:02I was big on Coker. I had him projected quite high.
6:05He looked like the best wide receiver on the field.
6:08Now Jalen Johnson was covering Tedron McMillan quite a bit.
6:11T. Mac had an issue where he got the ball punched out and Coker looked great.
6:15And the way they moved him around, I I'm very I'm cautiously optimistic on them moving forward and and and Coker being
6:22as big of a factor in that offense. But there's nobody else a consequence man.
6:26I know Waller got a few early Mitchell Evans got in his own later, but it was they combined for 50% of
6:33the target share is Jalen Coker and Tedron McMillan.
6:36So it was a concentrated offense. But Jalen Coker looked fantastic full stop.
6:39Ray, I'll take that a step further. I'm going to go back and rewatch this game, but just watching it live.
6:46Jalen Coker was simply creating more separation than Tedron McMillan was.
6:49And, you know, I think was one of the under discussed topics of the offseason.
6:53And we love to focus on these tiny little tidbits that team at gain 12 to 15 pounds this offseason has impacted his separation skills.
7:01You know, meanwhile, Jalen Coker wins on a, you know, 51 yard touchdown down the field and kind of an out and up situation.
7:08Brad Idzik loved that he was, you know, putting the really the game in Bryce Young's hands early and often and allowing
7:14him to throw down the field and take the shot plays.
7:18It took these offenses, the Panthers offense, too many weeks, too many months to do that in previous years.
7:23And Ray, I thought Bryce Young stepped up to the plate, had a fantastic game, all things considered.
7:28361 yards, three touchdowns, and then another rushing score on the ground when he juked the heck out of Jalen Johnson at the touchdown line.
7:36Josh, Bryce Young looked great. Bryce Young didn't give up 50 points, all right?
7:40And the one interception came with 20 seconds left in the half and he was targeting Jalen Coker on that play to
7:46try to get him the ball to push the ball downfield right before half.
7:51But you're talking about a team 66% neutral pass rate on the day for the Carolina Panthers.
7:56If there were one thing that I wish they could have committed to a little bit more was the ground game.
8:02They did not run the ball much in this one, but Hayden, you might like this one because I know you're a big Chuba guy.
8:09It was like a lot of Chuba Hubbard. I know Jonathan Brooks had the big play down the field, but we're talking
8:16about 13 carries to six for Hubbard to Jonathan Brooks and then 26 routes for Chuba Hubbard to only six for Jonathan Brooks.
8:23And if Bryce would have hit him on another wheel route, he probably had another 30, 40 yards down the field.
8:29But the backfield, if they can run the ball a little bit more, find some more balance.
8:34I'm not there yet to say Bryce Young has arrived in year four and he's going to level up to another degree.
8:40But it definitely felt like in this game without the presence of a wide receiver three and a tight end of consequence
8:47that he can support McMillan and Jalen Coker both.
8:49Yeah, Jalen Coker once he was a full time player last year, he was about the wide receiver 34 nine and a
8:56half PPR points per game in that contest is another win for him.
9:00I will say with the Bears, I think the drop off from Jalen Johnson to their rest of the secondary until Kyler Gordon those guys gets back.
9:08It's something that we have to know in our matchups column and obviously the Jalen Coker double move was against Tyreek Stevenson.
9:14There's something to keep in the back of my mind not taking anything away from Coker.
9:19I would say like the other big thing with that rotation that was surprising to me is I thought it was gonna
9:26be Chuba as a starter, but I thought it was gonna be Jonathan Brooks kind of like the secondary role on passing situations on third and fourth downs.
9:34It was Chuba Hubbard eight snaps in Jonathan Brooks only one of the snaps.
9:38So Jonathan Brooks was like an early down kind of change of pace guy.
9:42He was not this kind of like base down back pass down back.
9:46That was a lie. It's pretty much all Chuba Hubbard until proven otherwise to the point if you guys got Chuba Hubbard
9:52somewhere in like the hundreds, I think this might be one of the best picks that you guys could have made.
9:59Yeah, two touchdowns for Chuba Hubbard on the day.
10:01The 48 yard reception for Jonathan Brooks was another fantastic off structure play by Bryce Young where he basically points him up
10:08the field up the sideline throws it on an absolute laser of him down the field kind of in a tight window area.
10:15So that was a really nice connection there on top of it.
10:18Just final point on Jalen Coker. Last year, he was supposed to be a starting to wide receiver set player for this
10:25team then suffers the quad injury that lasts for like six to eight weeks.
10:29And Matt, you know this I'm like the final 40 targets of the season, including the playoffs.
10:34Jalen Coker has simply outperformed Teddero McMillan on that stuff.
10:37Yeah, and I understand what you're saying Hayden about the Bears defense being questionable on the back end.
10:42The Panthers also get the Atlanta Falcons next week.
10:45You know, this team has torn up the Atlanta Falcons secondary in the past.
10:49So this might be one of those situations, Matt, where we go from, hey, awesome playoff game, 100 plus yards and two
10:55scores to another awesome first week to actually starting Jalen Coker in the flex next week.
11:00I don't see why not, like especially if the offense is going to push the ball down the field.
11:06Bryce Young was sixth in the average air yards per pass attempt this week among quarterbacks.
11:10Like if he's going to do that, then yeah, it's wheels up for Coker because I said this during the offseason.
11:17Like this is one of the best young receivers in football.
11:20There's no need like UDFA cutesy caveats or anything.
11:23He's just been straight up a baller since he's hit the field.
11:26Right. Just a couple of quick notes in this.
11:29Darren Waller basically put Jatavian Sanders on the inactive list.
11:32Darren Waller had two catches for 28 yards, also had an end zone catch that was called back for a touchdown.
11:38And I think a really ticky tacky offensive pass interference penalty.
11:41Ray, I do want to ask you quickly just about the Bears receivers because Luther Burden pops up for five for 63.
11:48Romadun's eight, two for 52 with an awesome 47 yarder along the right sideline.
11:52We mentioned that Khalif Raymond eight for eight, 84.
11:55And that leaves us with nothing for Colson Loveland on two targets.
11:58A big, fat goose egg. I know you haven't gone back and rewatched the tape or any of that stuff.
12:04But how the heck does Colson Loveland, who was drafted the highest of any of these pass catchers, end up with nothing?
12:10I honestly have nothing for you, man. I've got nothing for you.
12:14It was very obvious at the beginning of that game that Cole Komet was going to be a part of the offense.
12:21Whether you like it or not, he's on the field.
12:23They were motioning him out of the backfield. They were motioning him into the slot.
12:28Like he was a part of the offense. Colson Loveland, they tried to hit him.
12:32When they got down the goal line, it was probably, I think, in the second quarter.
12:37He was open for a touchdown. Caleb Williams missed him.
12:40It was an interception that was overturned doing an offsides to Derrick Brown.
12:44It just didn't look like he was a part of the offensive game plan in this one, which it's a little concerning.
12:50Our man, Zane Dayani, is that his last name?
12:53If I'm butchering Zane's last name. Here's what he said.
12:56Here's what he said about the Bears. Colson Loveland, 92% route share.
13:0013%, 13.5%, 13.5 ADOT for nearly all one tight end sets.
13:03In two tight end sets, 34% slot rate. Luther Burden, 71% route share.
13:07A lot of his stuff was a lot shorter.
13:0950% route share in two wide receiver sets. And then Roma Dunze, 58% route share.
13:1463% in two wide receiver sets. I think my takeaway from this one, y'all, is I don't really know what to make
13:20of the usage of the Bears wide receivers because none of them really had the type of game that anybody was anticipating.
13:27And yet they put up 60 damn points. So it's one of these things where you're probably going to play all three again.
13:34You're absolutely going to play all three again. I hate to say it's incomplete when they put up 59 points, but I
13:40don't know what we take from this moving forward.
13:43Do I think Loveland is a zero moving forward?
13:45Absolutely not. Do I think Rome's only going to have two receptions?
13:49No. Luther Burden fumbled the ball early in the game.
13:52So it was just, it was clear that this game plan was establish it, establish it, establish it.
13:57And Caleb Williams, his threat with the legs. I think that kind of hurts the receivers and the tight ends to a degree at times.
14:05Josh, I would note that I feel like we do need to get a sample here when Roman Dunze has like a full week of practice.
14:12You know, he told me in January and February of last year that the thing that he felt was most disruptive to
14:19him was not missing, like not the injury playing through it last year, but actually just the routine and the disruption of the practice time.
14:26So I think that's probably something we need here.
14:29And as for Loveland, like I watched both of his targets that Caleb Williams delivered to him.
14:34Those are probably like his two worst throws of the day, just in terms of ball placement and accuracy.
14:39So that's just a, I mean, look, you don't want two targets anyways, still a little bit just unfortunate there.
14:45But I would say that the guy that has probably, if you're, and I'm not concerned about any of these guys, but
14:52you know, the most concerning maybe usage was Luther Burden, who wasn't like a full-time player in a lot of the two receiver set stuff.
14:59So that's the one I think we need to dig into the most for stats versus film later.
15:05And let me just say this, y'all. Olamide Zaccheaus was getting targets last year and he had a specified role.
15:11I'm not predicting that Khalif Raymond leads this team and targets an opportunity, but it felt a hell of a lot more
15:17than just like coincidence or luck that he got the opportunity that he did.
15:21Like he did not run the same route as Luther Burden or Romo Dunze.
15:25It felt like he's got some kind of role in this offense that nobody predicted would be there.
15:31Ray, just to kind of wrap this one up, Khalif Raymond, 95% of three wide receiver sets he was on the field for.
15:37That's a very valuable role. That's the exact role that you guys were talking about.
15:42The new name that was not expecting, Jaday Walker.
15:45He led all Bears wide receivers in the non-three wide receiver set snaps.
15:4871% of those went to him. I think that when Romo Dunze goes to full-time, Walker snaps will come down.
15:54But Walker was actually the one that was getting in the way of Luther Burden in this game.
16:00So just something to watch, something that I would guess nobody was really expecting.
16:04I'll just end this by pointing a finger at the Panthers defense coordinator, Edgero Evero.
16:08He has some questions to answer for here. Okay?
16:11I mean, this is the same DC that two seasons ago coached the unit that allowed the most points in NFL history.
16:17All I have heard ever since then is, oh, he's well-respected in the league.
16:21And they just believe that once he gets more defensive personnel, that this defense is going to turn it around.
16:27And he should be on head coaching lists. And, you know, he changes the coverage the most between pre-snap and post-snap.
16:34Who cares? The dude sucks at his job. Okay?
16:36Get him out of here. A team, an offense that posts 31 points in the opening three quarters should win a game 80% of the time.
16:44And his defense allowed 59 points in this game.
16:47Get out. I'm sick of it. It is just incredible.
16:50I understand there are some other plays like Derek Brown on the, you know, roughing the passer and Jimmy Horn, muffing the
16:56punt and all that type of stuff. Your defense wasn't ready for the game.
17:00It's that simple. And it hasn't been ready for four years.
17:03Simple ass. All right. Not wrong. Next up. Speaking of defense, it was questionable in this one.
17:08Shockingly, Harmon, as the Buffalo Bills beat the Houston Texans on the road, 36 to 31.
17:13Did not have this Texans defense in mind to allow 36 points on the board.
17:18And Matt, I look at the box score. Duncan Cade, 5 or 130.
17:21DJ Moore, 5, 101. Brandon Beans, big moves. The receiver room certainly hit here in week one.
17:26One of the 2026 season. Yeah. The big takeaway, I think, is that both of these offenses looked really good.
17:32And shout out to Joe Brady, popping his shirt off in the locker room, letting the white boy chain hang out.
17:39I mean, there were some good vibes for the Buffalo Bills in this game.
17:43And I mean, a lot of it was some of the things you highlighted there were right away.
17:48I will say it felt a little bit like they needed to kind of settle into the offense here with Joe Brady and the boys.
17:55But, you know, one thing that caught my eye right away is 36 points against the Houston Texans.
18:01According to NFL Pro, that is the most a D'Amico Ryan's led defense has given up since his first season on the job in 2023.
18:08And this is a defense that's given Josh Allen a lot of trouble in their last two meetings.
18:1313.5 adjusted yards per attempt in this game. It helps to have receivers who can get open down the field, it turns out.
18:20And not only that, but it also kind of allowed them to get Khalil Shakir loose early for two catches for 45 yards on his first two targets.
18:29And those are not like Khalil Shakir catch and run opportunities.
18:32That was kind of a continuation from their first preseason game where Shakir was used more down the field.
18:37And I think his two targets after that were or his two catches after that were both screens and more typical Khalil Shakir things.
18:45But, yeah, I mean, it was DJ Moore who had four catches of 10 plus yards down the field.
18:5081% route participation led the team. He had like his touchdown.
18:53His first catch was like a play action skinny post, like down the field, exactly what you'd think.
18:59And he didn't have a catch until the second quarter of this game.
19:03And then as soon as like that connection started heating up, Josh Allen just was going after him again and again.
19:09Now his touchdown was a little bit of a questionable gamble by Reed Blankenship on that one.
19:14It's tight along the sideline. Reed tries to go for the pick and then, you know, just DJ Moore scampers the rest of the way.
19:21But immediately you felt the difference with him in there.
19:24And the other guy, too, is Dalton Kincaid, who was just smoking defenders down the football field in the second half of this one.
19:3177% snap share. That's the eighth highest of his career.
19:34Most of any wide receiver and tight end on the team.
19:37He had three catches on three targets for 113 yards when lined up out wide.
19:42I mean, it finally looked like not Dalton Kincaid to the theory, but like Dalton Kincaid, the actualized version of the idea
19:48was on the field for the Buffalo Bills. So, yeah, it was a I will say Josh Allen almost like threw this game away.
19:55Game ending INT on what was just an absolute like, why are you throwing that thing up just for grabs for Josh Palmer?
20:02But if you threw that tweet out there, you immediately regretted it because then he throws the strike on a post route
20:09touchdown to the same player, Josh Palmer, to eventually win this game.
20:12Matt, we call that Dalton Kincaid versus USC. That's the thing we're aiming for here.
20:17But just looking at the box score here, it looks like it was a way more dropbacks versus designed carries.
20:23And last year was about even split. You just never knew.
20:26Was that a Sean McDermott thing or was that an actual Joe Brady thing now that he's in the head coaching chair?
20:32Like, is this something where like obviously you're facing the Texans pass rushers, which it seems like they held up pretty well
20:39in the 27 percent pressure rate, which is really good given the defense and those corners.
20:44And they still went back and dropped back all that time.
20:47Did it feel different just watching like James Cook versus Josh Allen, the rest of these guys?
20:52Yeah, definitely. And I mean, James Cook had a catch on the first drive, like one of the first two plays of
20:58the game, second play of the game, actually. And he went for, you know, fourth.
21:03Like it was just he was involved pretty early as a receiver in that way.
21:07He only has like three catches on the day.
21:10So it's not some crazy pass game role. But it was like the first inclination that, oh, something is a little bit different here.
21:17And that was what we talked about with what this team had been kind of whispering out of camp in the preseason
21:24was that they wanted to throw the football more.
21:26And even when you like they first hire Joe Brady as the head coach, that was kind of the early justification by
21:33beat reporters covering the team was, well, you know, no, Joe Brady doesn't want to run the football like that.
21:39That was more of a Sean McDermott thing. And you didn't know if that was kind of spin with an organization that
21:45was, you know, a little bit questionable in the in the in the press conference talking about firing Sean McDermott and the whole deal.
21:52But it certainly looked like the actualized reality of that here in this game.
21:56Matt, need to ask you on the opposite end here with the Houston Texans.
22:01CJ Stroud coming off some disastrous playoff performances. I would say the Bills are like a medium defense.
22:06We're not exactly sure what to expect with them now with Jim Leonard calling, you know, the plays for them.
22:12But he goes 26 to 38 to 74 to touchdowns.
22:15And as we know, Nico Collins is his go to man.
22:18But a whole bunch of people, I mean, almost a dozen of them catch passes in this contest.
22:23Just overall, what CJ Stroud do in his debut in 2026?
22:27I thought again, I feel good about both offenses coming out of this one.
22:31I do think it's easier to say Bill's offense faces against a good defense that we know is good and is mostly
22:37returning the same player, same coaches and the whole deal.
22:40And I think it's easier to take more positivity away from that one because, you know, like Hayden pointed out, they did keep those pass rushers at bay.
22:48It was like deep into this game before you really heard anything from Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter eventually made his presence known.
22:55But still, for the most part, like that's how that team felt with with the Bills defenses versus the Texans offense.
23:01I'm not saying like this was a bad debut by Jim Leonard or anything, but man, they really kept playing like outside leverage on this team.
23:09And CJ Stroud went 14 of 19 on 100 for 173 yards on in breaking throws in this game.
23:15Like they attacked the middle of the field consistently.
23:17The biggest takeaway, though, to me, we'll come back to the past game.
23:21I do want to talk about Nico Collins a little bit more in this game.
23:26But to me, the biggest note was actually in the run game where Dave Montgomery scores three touchdowns.
23:31That's great. That's cool. Obviously, if you started him in fantasy, that feels pretty good.
23:35It did feel a little bit like, oh, geez, we're sure like Dave Montgomery is not going to be a good player for this Houston Texans football team.
23:44But the bigger one to me is that the rushing success rate for the Texans in this game, 48.3 percent.
23:50That's the fourth best out of 58 regular season and playoff games for this team since 2023 and 2023 to 2025.
23:56I said this a lot. They were the 31st ranked rushing success rate team since they drafted CJ Stroud strictly on running back runs.
24:03So they they implemented a lot more heavy personnel.
24:06Dave Montgomery had like three straight carries on his first touchdown out of heavy personnel.
24:10The second touchdown comes out of a 12 personnel look like this did feel like a different run game for Houston than what we've seen.
24:17Certainly last year and even in some of the Joe Mixon years.
24:21Yeah, right. Hand up. I was one of the people that was bringing up some maybe dead zone running back profile ish from Dave Montgomery.
24:28But this is certainly an awesome debut with three touchdowns that puts a sock in my mouth for at least the next couple of weeks.
24:36Well, I mean, Josh, I kind of wanted to ask Carmen this because I didn't watch a ton of this game.
24:42Right. I was locked in on the Jets and the Titans, which we'll get to later.
24:47But when I see when I see when I see three touchdowns, I feel great.
24:51When I see 20 carries for 60 yards, three yards in attempt and you tell me the Buffalo defense isn't great.
24:57Like, I'm just I just want to know how it felt watching him.
25:01Did it feel like a grind? Did he look like, oh, man, like we've got a stud here?
25:06Or was it just was it just one of those things where if you're going to give him 20 carries, like it's
25:13probably going to you're going to get some fantasy production here because I'm just looking at the raw numbers.
25:19And I'm like, yeah, it doesn't look that great from Montgomery.
25:22But I mean, we love the three touchdowns, no doubt.
25:25Like, what did you see? Just the eye test, Matt.
25:28That's why I wanted to bring the success rate stats.
25:31I think it shows the story a little bit better than strict yards per carry because a lot of his 149 short yardage.
25:38Yeah, a lot of Montgomery's carries came in short yardage situations.
25:41Again, like I mentioned, like three straight at the goal line before he scores his first touchdown.
25:46So some of that just depresses the yards per carry.
25:49But yeah, I wouldn't say this looked like a, oh, boy, overwhelming run game.
25:53But we're talking about the bar for this team is literally at the floor.
25:57Like we just need them to not be the 31st ranked rushing team for them to actually move the football.
26:03And I think that did bleed into the passing game where they had more advantageous down and distance situations.
26:09So I just think that the whole offense felt a little bit more organized and cleaner than what we've seen out of Houston the last two years.
26:17Yeah, interesting, Matt. Based on the box, I wouldn't have guessed what Michael F.
26:21Florio is putting here on the screen with 51% snaps or D-Mont 49% Woody Marks, you know, nine carries 16 routes, 20
26:27carries 15 routes, all that type of stuff. But yeah, the box score tells us that near the goal line that is certainly D-Mont.
26:34I also want to ask about the wide receiver room, Matt, because this was a huge, you know, change in the preseason.
26:41Once Jaden Higgins went down, we always knew that Nico Collins is going to be, as you put up, the alpha wide receiver one for the Houston Texans.
26:49Is it as simple as you state here? Everything else, wide receiver two by committee, because we get Jalen Knoll, two for
26:5653, Dalton Schultz, four for 35, Xavier Hutchinson, three for 32.
26:59And then Kayshaun Boutte, one for 21. Yeah, everybody else kind of had their moments.
27:03Even this guy, Jared Wayne, was playing a decent bit and kind of as another almost like a Xavier Hutchinson clone, a little bit of a grinder blocker.
27:12Like he was the solo wide receiver in 13 personnel at times.
27:15Again, Xavier Hutchinson did sort of the dirty work special several times in this game.
27:20Jalen Knoll, wide open on a dig route on his first catch and then kind of a clutch third and three reception
27:26in the final minute of this game. But yeah, it wasn't a full time player.
27:30Nobody was a full time player. Nobody in the wide receiver room had a 70 percent route share except Nico Collins at 88 percent.
27:38And Kayshaun Booty, he had a 21 yard reception, kind of lost a contested pass along the sideline for one of his others.
27:44All the tight ends were involved. Like to me, this just the world revolves around Nico Collins, who had a productive day and drew another long pass interference.
27:53I should have mentioned DJ Moore had a bunch of hidden yards for the Buffalo Bills as well.
27:58He had several like pass interference, legal contact down the field plays in this one, too.
28:03So yeah, Collins was the everything revolves around him and everyone else is just kind of in the orbit.
28:08Matt, just closing out, wanted to ask you about the end of game sequence, really the final three plays, because Houston gets
28:15down first and goal to the nine yard line.
28:1725 seconds left on the clock. Is this just, you know, the Bills turning it on in the moment they have to where they get a sack?
28:25Then we go second and goal from the 18 in completion over to Nico Collins.
28:30And then we close it out with another sack fumble on third goal.
28:34Yeah, that was probably Stroud's worst moment of the game, which I mean, you know, wonderful.
28:38It's the one that loses the game, you know, not particularly ideal.
28:42But like I said, he was pretty clean all game and then kind of just makes a bad play worse where Trent
28:48Brown loses really quickly to Gregory Rousseau on the right tackle side.
28:52And then he just kind of gets a little careless with the football, as we'll talk about later.
28:57We call that the Baker Mayfield special. He had kind of one of those at the worst moment.
29:03Yeah. Interesting here for the Texans. I mean, they start with the Buffalo Bills and then the Cincinnati Bengals offense in week two.
29:09So hopefully they can rebound on that side and ask for the Bills.
29:13They face the Detroit Lions in week two. Man, oh man, we already have an awesome week two slate.
29:19Hayden. I mean, the timing is perfect. Let's flip it over to you with those Detroit Lions in overtime beating the New Orleans Saints 31 to 30.
29:27I was looking at box scores the entire time and it felt like for the first, you know, 45 minutes of this game.
29:34Tyler Shuck and Travis HN had a combined 38 yards.
29:37In the end, Tyler Shuck throws for 410 yards and three touchdowns and two interceptions.
29:41HN is still very minimal nine for 46. I don't know if you want to start there.
29:46Just the overall aspect of this game and how it played out and how we got into overtime with the Saints losing
29:53because they failed a two point conversion. Absolutely a tale of two house.
29:56We'll get to the Saints second here. Didn't want to talk about the Lions just because they won this game.
30:02Now, they really should have lost this game. There was kind of some controversy here with one of the refs play calls here.
30:09But with the offense, it just felt a lot more conservative than some of the previous Lions offenses out there.
30:15The offensive line was fantastic in this one. Only one pressure allowed, according to PFF right now.
30:20Jared Goff, though, 6.6 average depth of target. Everything felt underneath.
30:23Obviously, Jameer Gibbs goes crazy. It's going to be impossible to defend in fantasy.
30:28If you don't have them, good luck to you guys.
30:30But even in the dropbacks, there was a lot of underneath stuff to Amon Ra.
30:35His ADOT was 5.2 yards down the field. 36% target share for him.
30:39So I know it's the pet scene offense. Is that going to force a bunch of targets to the tight ends?
30:45Not necessarily. I think Sam Laporta had a very up-the-middle game for him.
30:49But Amon Ra St. Brown off-coverage touchdown, easy one.
30:51And then in overtime, a pick play where they got, I think it was Isaac Teslaw, to pick him for a little
30:58slant goal line touchdown for Amon Ra St. Brown.
31:01Jameer didn't really do a whole lot. There's a 3rd and 4 drop that cost him a first down.
31:06Maybe another drop on 3rd and 2. I'm guessing if we go back and watch the All-22, maybe he's running more clear-out routes.
31:13Early in the game, lots of two tight ends snaps.
31:16By the end of it, a lot more traditional stuff there.
31:19So really, nothing too concrete from the Lions' end, even though with a new play caller there, maybe a little bit more conservative.
31:26That said, this was a very automatic offense. Not a lot of explosives here.
31:30Just an offense that continued to just march down the football field.
31:34They did lose their left guard with an injury early in the first quarter.
31:38Yeah, Hayden, we have talked about teams already that are getting players involved that we didn't even know were on rosters.
31:44I feel like this Lions team, though, is going to be the most straightforward one that we'll see all season long, where
31:51it's Jameer Gibbs with, I mean, he had 29 carries and then another five targets on top of it.
31:56I mean, opening a season with 34 overall opportunities is insane stuff.
32:00And then it's Amon Ra St. Brown, Sam Laporte, and Jameson Williams.
32:03And that's it. I mean, this is the most predictable offense in the NFL.
32:07And I'll say it's going to be the most predictable defense.
32:11This secondary, and we can just get right to the Saints, was atrocious for the Lions.
32:15They're missing both of their safeties right now. And I think once those guys get back, maybe things get a little bit squared away here.
32:23But like Rakia Sin, he was leaving the game.
32:25Everybody was getting picked apart. Tyler Shuck, for the first half of the game, they were like sliding protections the wrong way.
32:32They were like running routes where like nobody was even near where the ball was placed.
32:37There was a lot of attempts where Tyler Shuck was throwing the ball and the wide receivers weren't even turned around.
32:43Bryce Lance, a very inexperienced player, obviously, in his first game.
32:46He was a big part of this offense. CJ Donaldson.
32:49I have never heard of you, CJ Donaldson. This guy was out there all the time in pass protection instead of Travis H.
32:56So there's a lot more like new faces in this one.
32:59It felt really sloppy for the first half. And I was tweeting some things.
33:03And then the second half of this game, Tyler Shuck read the tweets.
33:07And then he was absolutely bawling, throwing the ball down the football field.
33:11Chris Olave, 10 receptions, 182 yards. A lot of them were down the football field.
33:15He only left the game three times due to injury.
33:18So that was a win for Chris Olave. Only three times.
33:22Only three times. His phone was updating all day.
33:24Literally. Literally. In and out, in and out. He's either making a big play or he's in the medical tent.
33:30It was nuts. And sometimes it was both. It was because he made the big play.
33:35That's why he ended up in the medical tent.
33:38So it was a wild game. Devon Bailey was very much involved.
33:41He has a goal line touchdown on a fade route for him.
33:45I think that he's someone that kind of not all the way to Jalen Coker's.
33:49Coker's just a better player. But someone that is for sure almost every down player on a team that can get into some shootouts.
33:56He's like interesting as a pure like dart throw type.
33:59And then Jawan Johnson did. He was one of these guys.
34:02Did absolutely nothing. And then on the very last couple plays of the game, he scores a touchdown to tie it.
34:09He has a huge play to attempt the Saints to have a game winning field goal and a dig route over the middle.
34:15And then also has a big play in overtime where they eventually get Noah Fant into the end zone.
34:21There's a couple sequences that I really want to talk about just for NFL at large.
34:26The Saints, they in overtime, they go for two.
34:28They don't get the ball to Chris Olave. They're trying to get a little pick route to him.
34:34I think that Chuck could have forced it to him, but did chose not to.
34:38The ball goes out of bounds. I liked that decision.
34:41Unfortunately for the Saints, there's this really odd rule where Jared Goff gets strip sacked.
34:46The refs say that he was intending to throw the ball forward.
34:49The ball does go backwards. The Saints pick the ball up.
34:52Would have been a touchdown for them if that play was called the opposite way, which my entire adult life, I've been watching football.
34:59And whenever the ball goes backwards, it seems like the other team gets the ball.
35:04That's how the game works. Not this time. And that cost the Saints here.
35:08So multiple opportunities to pull off an upset. I would say an impressive game for the Saints because Staley didn't allow explosives on his side of the ball.
35:16But at the same time, it took a full half to get this offense going.
35:21But once they did, it was just explosive after explosive.
35:24Wow. Wow. Okay. We've talked about all this, Josh.
35:26We talked about all this. And I'm just looking at like Kendra Miller.
35:30Hayden? Yeah, bro. Kendra Miller. I know he scored the touchdown, but nine carries to a chance nine.
35:36And I get the game script was very negative.
35:38But it was like even with all the bad that was happening, New Orleans was always in it.
35:44What the hell was that about? Kendra Miller actually getting touches on the field?
35:48Yeah, this is probably the biggest fantasy takeaway because I was just stunned that Kendra Miller was playing so often.
35:54It was CJ Donaldson and like pass protection. By the way, that's a undrafted rookie.
35:58I believe I think it was the RB3 for the Buckeyes comes in there with a very legitimate role, maybe like a version of the Alvin Kamara role.
36:06But it was actually Kendra Miller and like Travis HN like splitting early down work.
36:11Now, at the same time, Travis HN, because of game scripts, and this is going to happen whenever you face the Detroit Lions, a career high nine targets.
36:19They go for 32 yards. They're scoreless. But a career high targets for Travis HN here.
36:24I would still call this a stock down for him just because they were this game wasn't like that crazy in terms
36:30of game script is a wonky game. But the game was like fairly tight for a lot of it.
36:36Kendra Miller was like literally taking snaps away from Travis HN.
36:39His touchdown was at the eight yard line. But even then, you're like, why is Kendra Miller out there at the eight yard line for a touchdown opportunity?
36:47So I would say one of the most surprising outcomes with Alvin Kamara not even playing.
36:52Yeah, I mean, we've seen other running backs that were either traded for or signed this offseason get almost all the work.
36:59And for Travis HN not to get all the work in his debut after signing for that big contract, I think is really massive.
37:06And Hayden, like you said, if they didn't rediscover they could catch passes in the second half, he wouldn't have those nine
37:12targets right when they're working from behind. And then next week they face the Baltimore Ravens away.
37:17So that's pretty terrifying if Travis HN is not getting, you know, 70 percent of the work.
37:22And I don't know why they would change that from week one to week two.
37:27I will say this. We talk about neutral pace all the time, and there's a reason for that.
37:32The Saints had 90 plays on offense. Obviously, you go to overtime and you're in trail, but offenses that play with that
37:39amount of pace, you can kind of back way into some fantasy production.
37:42So at least you have like that as some level of a floor for all these type of players.
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38:26All right. Speaking of the Ravens, I'll close out this first grouping with Baltimore beating the Indianapolis Colts 41 to 23.
38:32The debut of Jesse Minter and especially the opposite coordinator Declan Doyle could not have gone any better for the Ravens.
38:38I mean, the first player to shout out is our guy.
38:41And I mean, all of our guys. Save flowers.
38:44Five catches, 150 yards and a touchdown at halftime.
38:47Unfortunately, that's when his game ended due to a hamstring strain.
38:50But his usage has to get really everyone excited.
38:52Like the first snap on the Ravens offense after an awesome return was play action under center, boot to the left.
38:59Zay Flowers for 49 yards. Later on, Declan Doyle put him attached to Lamar Jackson in the backfield on a second and nine.
39:05He was uncovered due to blitzers on this like choice route.
39:09And then he just runs it after the catch for 54 yards.
39:12I mean, he was moving at a different speed than anyone else on NFL field.
39:17He looked the best he ever has. And hopefully I can say that again once he returns to the field from his injury.
39:23As for Derrick Henry, the running back on the day, 24 carries, 144 yards, three touchdowns.
39:28Now he is third all time in rushing touchdowns in NFL history.
39:32All time, Derrick Henry is. I mean, we are witnessing history here in the making.
39:36He is immortal. He looks like he's 27 years of age.
39:39And I thought Declan Doyle really did a fantastic job with his partnership with Lamar Jackson on some like zone read actions.
39:46He got him pointed to the edge. He even drew up a 19 yard screen for him.
39:51And I'll just close this out with Lamar Jackson.
39:54First drive cap with the rushing score inside the five yard line.
39:57He only had two rushing scores all of last season.
40:00This is, again, a new offensive line in many ways, a new play caller.
40:04And I thought Lamar looked comfortable. He looked poised.
40:07He looked calm on the road. And that's really all you can ask for in a debut with so many new pieces around him.
40:14Yeah. How many of those rush attempts were like design stuff versus him scrambling around?
40:18And like, does he like look like the fully healthy Lamar Jackson here?
40:22Like the one that can go like toe to toe with Josh Allen for a season?
40:27Yep. Fully healthy. A couple of them were designed.
40:30The other ones were scrambles where he was doing his best impression of Neo and, you know, avoiding arm length tackles and,
40:36you know, backing up, then moving forward, then not running people to the edge and all that type of stuff.
40:42He was sacked twice. I believe he also maybe fumbled on a sack on top of it.
40:47Yeah, it was a layout to lot to sack that Forrest Buckner picked up.
40:51But Lamar was pinpoint. And this, you know, jump from 31 points in the first half.
40:56It really stalled once they flowers went down at halftime.
40:59And also Jacoby Lane missed the second half. Jacoby Lane left with a wrist injury after basically getting three red zone targets on the same series.
41:07One went for a touchdown that was called back due to a holding.
41:10Then he got another one that got them down to about the four yard line and then ended that with an incomplete pass in the end zone.
41:18But once, you know, the top two wide receivers went out, it wasn't until a 53 yard catch and is only one
41:25of the day to Chris Moore that really reignited this offense back to score the 10 points to really put this one away.
41:32Yeah, Chris Moore in the year 2026. That's, you know, that's maybe not what you want.
41:37Devontae Walker was injured coming into this game. Elijah Surratt was a healthy scratch.
41:41But I mean, Josh, three touchdowns for Derrick Henry.
41:43What did I tell you, bro? You know what in Buffalo?
41:47I said he's going to have double digit touch.
41:49He's got double digit touchdowns in his back pocket.
41:52Yes. Coming into the season. We're 30% of the way there.
41:55How about that? We already are. And if he does that, I mean, it's an insane list of like Jerry Rice and
42:02Emmitt Smith that he joins as again, like the best to ever do it.
42:06Matt, I do want to put this back on you, though, because even when Zay Flowers and Jacoby Lane miss an entire
42:12half of action and Chris Moore goes one for 53.
42:15LaJante Wester goes two for 15. I see all the way at the bottom.
42:19Rashad Bateman, one target, zero reception, zero yards. You can't even do it in that environment.
42:24We're not we're not doing Rashad Bateman anymore. OK, we're done with it.
42:28My therapist says I'm not allowed to talk about Rashad Bateman.
42:31I don't know if you heard that. So, yeah.
42:34Josh, let me ask you. Yeah, go ahead. Can I ask you this?
42:38Because we did talk about this on the data dump that over the last like three years, the wide receiver to wide
42:44receiver to in Baltimore averages like four targets per game.
42:47And I'm just looking at the box score. Nobody likes old man Mark Andrews, but I'm just looking at raw targets.
42:53And I see six there for Mark Andrews. And Lamar Jackson is one of the most efficient quarterbacks in NFL history.
43:00If we're looking for like a lower end tight end play, if Lane is out, if Bateman's going to be a zero.
43:06I mean, what did you see from Andrews on the field?
43:09Well, he looked like he has in the last couple of years, which isn't that bad in comparison, I think, to what
43:16the beat writers said about him in training camp, that it was a disaster and like his career might be coming to a conclusion.
43:23There was a bunch of like pre snap motion and misdirection again off play action.
43:27And I think that was kind of aiding Mark Andrews in terms of not having to beat man coverage because, you know,
43:34defenses will run a lot of zone, obviously against Lamar Jackson.
43:37And he's still just really good at finding these soft spots and soft areas and not offering much after the catch.
43:43But he was there. And even Matthew Hibner popped up for a catch for 13 yards on top of it.
43:49OK, quickly over to the Colts end of this.
43:52The first drive was simply outstanding. Like Shane Sykin sliced right through Jesse Minner's defense, just like he did last year against the Chargers.
43:59There were two key Josh Downs receptions on that drive.
44:02Third down conversions. The first one, third and three after an audible by Daniel Jones.
44:06It's a 25 yard shake route with plenty of yards after catch.
44:10And then later on, a 12 yard gain on third and eight after Josh Downs got motion.
44:15He opened the game. Shane Sykin, seven straight dropbacks.
44:18But after that opening drive touchdown, the drivers went interception, punt, punt, fumble and punt.
44:22And they were down 31 to 13 at half.
44:25So Jonathan Taylor still looked freaking awesome with 19 carries for 98 yards and two scores.
44:29Tyler Warren didn't get his touchdown until late. It kind of felt like he was the sacrificial player in this, almost having
44:36to stay closer to the line of scrimmage to really take account for everything that Jesse Minner was doing on the edges
44:42in terms of pressure looks and all that type of stuff.
44:46And then Alec Pierce had two downfield targets that were past breakups because it was perfect coverage by Marlon Humphrey and Nate Wiggins.
44:53And I kind of wonder if he maybe has lost five to 10 percent of his juice right now than other previous years, like last year.
45:00He'd be able to separate it and come down with those grabs, but does finish most of this at the end with four catches for 61 yards.
45:08I would take that as a win for Alec Pierce.
45:11Like as long as he didn't have a setback, he played about half of the routes there.
45:16And yeah, at least put some numbers out there.
45:19I feel like that's that's enough to keep me somewhat confident over the next couple of weeks that we can end up starting him looking in the numbers.
45:27Josh Downs, he did play in most of the non 11 personnel stuff.
45:31That's a that's that's pretty exciting. And then I think that's exciting until you look at two for 37 yards.
45:37Basically, I was going to say 48 to 54 snaps and got two for for 37 in a game that they lost by 18 points.
45:44It's a lot. Josh, how did Jamie Jones look?
45:47Yeah, what did Jones look like? Yeah, it's the first drive was so good that I was like, oh, man, this is
45:53right back where everyone was saying that this team is going to be.
45:57And then he I think through an awful interception on the second series where he tried to high low Roquan Smith and
46:04Roquan was like, no, I'm just going to stay in the middle of this and tip it to myself and come down with this catch.
46:11And there was very little movement from Daniel Jones on top of it.
46:15Jesse Minner has this defense flying around. You know, the edge rushers, the defensive tackles.
46:19Kyle Hamilton was, you know, a deep safety, a slot corner and then blitzing off the edge on top of it.
46:26So it just felt like this Colts offense was not ready for for what the defense brought to the table.
46:32And then Keenan Allen, I do want to say, played the second most snaps.
46:36But that was down at 36 of 54 among wide receivers.
46:39He had the first catch of the game. But yeah, I mean, just six for 32 might be something we kind of keep in mind here.
46:47And yeah, again, Tyler Warren played 50 of 54.
46:49Just not his day when it comes to being heavily involved from the start.
46:53OK. If there's no more questions, we'll keep it moving.
46:56Hayden, over to you. I mean, we've already talked about some and I mean, just a couple of the biggest shocks and surprises of the day.
47:04We were waiting on you to start this episode because I looked down and I could have sworn that the Packers were up by two for 59 minutes.
47:12And then they lose by 17 to the Minnesota Vikings.
47:1539 to 22. I didn't see a single second of this contest.
47:19How the heck did the Vikings with Carson Wentz as their starting quarterback beat the Packers by 17?
47:24Yeah, don't type in the floor right now on Twitter.
47:27Packers fans are completely irate. I totally get this one because the Packers felt like they were the better team for quite a while.
47:34The Vikings blitzed on 87 percent of the Packers dropbacks.
47:37Eighty seven percent. That has got to be some type of record.
47:41Yes. Now, the Packers knew this was coming. They face Brian Flores all the time.
47:45They were able to get a couple of explosives early on in the game.
47:49Christian Watson on an in cut. He kind of beats where the other linebackers supposed to be on a blitz route.
47:55He takes it was easily the most athletic guy in the football field.
47:59Takes it for an 81 yard touchdown. There's a couple other plays for Christian Watson, including when he's going to like insert block.
48:06And it kind of leaks out for a red zone touchdown.
48:09So he's not just Mr. 80 yard touchdown. He's going to get involved at the goal line.
48:14His season looked like it's going to be pretty awesome.
48:17Matthew Golden. He has 12 targets in this one.
48:20There's some in cut opportunities for Matthew Golden. 42 yarder out there.
48:24I thought that he passed the test, played most of the snaps.
48:27But what happened with the Packers is they had explosives, but there was no level of consistency here.
48:32Jordan Love gets sacked four times. That's what happens when you have 87% blitzes coming your way and the Packers could not
48:39run the ball whatsoever is under four yards per carry.
48:42Marshawn Lloyd has more carries than Chris Brooks, but Chris Brooks actually started this game.
48:46Chris Brooks was out there in a lot of the past protection because the Vikings were bringing so much pressure.
48:52You're not going to trust Marshawn Lloyd out there.
48:55So pretty quiet day for the running back group at large.
48:58But that's one of the problems with the Packers.
49:01Like it's so hard for them to kind of stay on schedule here.
49:05And if you're not hitting the huge explosives, all of a sudden this offense feels a little bit stuck.
49:10So in the second half, very conservative game planning until Matt LaFleur in the late in the game.
49:16They're up by a couple points by five points here.
49:19It's like a fourth and six. The Trey Smack, who nailed a couple of long field goals in this one.
49:24He hits his field goal here to make them go up eight.
49:28There was a penalty on the Vikings. The Packers decide to accept the penalty to go to fourth and one on that fourth and one.
49:35They do a quarterback sneak that gets stuffed. So instead of taking this game to go up by eight, they choose to
49:42try to make this like a true two score game.
49:45And it backfires. And a lot of the models were saying, actually, you should just take the points there.
49:50Next possession, Vikings go all the way down the field, score a touchdown.
49:54By the way, this is all with Carson Wentz, mind you.
49:58And then later on the game, Jordan Love, he gets strip sacked.
50:01There's interception as well on a ball that's like pass deflected.
50:04And then the Vikings end up just having a couple of a couple of explosives to Jordan Mason.
50:10Aaron Jones scores a rushing touchdown. Jordan Mason scores a rushing touchdown.
50:13And then Justin Jefferson completely balls out. So this game was sloppy to start for the Vikings end of this.
50:19They stayed competitive. And then at the end of the game, the Packers side of this thing, it just could not pick up a normal first down.
50:27And a lot of it is because of Brian Flores.
50:30Okay. Since it's a fantasy relevant question, I guess we just have to ask.
50:34Josh Jacobs is going to miss more games than week two.
50:37So Chris Brooks, I know Matt pointed this out.
50:40I know Ray has pointed this out. I know all of us have that he was most likely going to play the
50:47most snaps or a lot of them because of his pass pro and recognition and all that type of stuff.
50:53But from your eye test, did Marshawn Lloyd pass it?
50:56Is this someone that can be a flex option moving forward?
50:59I think next week you got the Jets and then you got the Falcons.
51:03I think over those two games, I think there's going to be enough points here to go around where Marshawn Lloyd could be a flex.
51:10He is definitely not an RB2, though. Marshawn Lloyd, I thought, he's very dancey.
51:14And you're supposed to have a jump cuts as a running back.
51:18Sometimes his jump cuts are a little bit too jumpy for me.
51:22And they try to get him on a big wheel route.
51:25Yes. You guys watch. You'll notice this. And I think the other big takeaway, and this all kind of comes together, the
51:31interior offensive line for the Packers is a huge problem.
51:34Both of their guards stink out loud, stink out loud.
51:37And that's not changing whether it's Josh Jacobs or whoever else is out there.
51:41This team's going to live and die by the explosives.
51:44Now, I think they're going to get a bunch of that the entire game.
51:48Jordan Love was like on his back foot just throwing bombs down the field.
51:53And they did have some fun explosives, including two to Tucker Craft, who's about a halftime player in this one.
51:58But if they can't run the ball and their corners are left on islands against Justin Jefferson, you can absolutely smoke the
52:05entire game with Carson Wentz at quarterback. This team seems like kind of like fool's gold to me.
52:10And I do think that this Packers team, unless Michael Parsons comes back, unless they figure out this offensive line, which I'm
52:17not banking on, this Packers team is going to be very, very frustrating.
52:21Yeah. That sounds about what I was expecting, honestly, from the Packers.
52:24So I'll be interested to go back and rewatch.
52:27On the Viking side of things, Hayden, any read on the running back situation in terms of the split between the two guys?
52:34Like, how did the run game look overall? You know, that's something they really said they wanted to commit to.
52:40Like, did they actually commit to it? Darisaw had a couple awesome runs to spring some explosives.
52:45I think there was a nice touchdown to Aaron Jones where he was out in front.
52:49And then obviously the Jordan Mason is a 28 yarder.
52:52It felt like it felt like a lot more than 28 yards.
52:56Maybe Jordan Mason's not that fast in that. It just felt like he was running for so long, but not actually picking up that many yards.
53:04They both scored goal line touchdowns. So I think Aaron Jones is from four yards out.
53:08Jordan Mason was actually from like one yard out.
53:11So it's going to be a pretty even split.
53:14Neither of them were like really used in the pass game.
53:17Like even Aaron Jones goes catchless in this one.
53:19The entire pass game was to Justin Jefferson. There was a free play situation where Carson Wentz looks to his right.
53:26Justin Jefferson's to his left. He kind of realizes like, oh, maybe I should throw this ball to Justin Jefferson.
53:32If it's a free play, finally does it. In the back of the end zone, Justin Jefferson comes down with it.
53:38There's a couple of times where Justin Jefferson's working behind the line of scrimmage after the ball is snapped as little like leak routes to the flats.
53:46Both of those were in the red zone. One of them he takes for a touchdown.
53:51The other one, just a simple reception there. But just the fact that Carson Wentz can make this offense look functional is like makes the J.J.
53:58McCarthy stuff from last year, like so much more damning.
54:01Like it like truly so much more damning. The Jefferson floor this year feels so much higher.
54:06And hopefully we get Kyler Murray back. He was pretty much knocked unconscious in the first quarter of that one.
54:12So really bummed out for Kyler Murray. We'll see if he comes back next week or not.
54:17But at least Carson Wentz, like this is not the J.J.
54:20McCarthy splits. This is more like, you know, Nick Mullins.
54:23It's more like Kirk Cousins tier rather than like the J.J.
54:27McCarthy stuff. Yeah, I mean, the Carson Wentz of it all, it just shows you that if your name isn't J.J.
54:33McCarthy or Max Brosmer, that Justin Jefferson is going to get there.
54:36It really is that simple. He's that talented that he's going to get there.
54:40Hey, just to close this out, we've got two lesser wide receivers on each team that barely did anything.
54:46OK, so I understand that the Packers out yarded, out gained the Vikings for 19 to 239.
54:51By the way, they lost by 17 doing that, which is absolutely bonkers.
54:55But we mentioned that Watson had 147 and two scores.
54:58Matthew Golden, 95 yards. I see Jane Reed for three catches for 20 yards.
55:02And then I see Jordan Addison with a total goose egg on two targets.
55:06Yeah, I'll start with Jaden Reed. 64% of the routes in this game, they did not mix in another wide receiver very much.
55:13I will say like the last play of the game was an incomplete pass to Sky Moore on a fourth and two.
55:20So like we had like some of that element, but not as much as previous years.
55:24That was for you guys down there. Instead, the Packers did use a real four tight end rotation.
55:30That's because Tucker Kraft is not a full time player in this one.
55:33Kraft ran 20 of 46 routes. It was like Johnny Smith, Mark Redman, Josh Wiley.
55:38Those guys were playing at the expense of Jaden Reed.
55:41I would say this is the same exact situation that Jaden Reed has been in for his entire career.
55:46If you guys like that, keep them. If you don't like that, I don't like that personally.
55:51And it does seem like Matthew Golden is like the more explosive version of Romeo Dobbs.
55:56Romeo Dobbs is a wide receiver three in fantasy last year.
55:59I can easily see Matthew Golden just one for one replacing that as Christian Watson, I think, has a chance to be a real upside wide receiver too.
56:08And then final question before we get out of here.
56:11Tucker Kraft said he was going to play about 50% of the snaps until halfway through the season.
56:16You said he'd get two explosives. Anything eye test wise you want to bring up here with Tucker Kraft?
56:22Both of them are wide open and I thought he looked totally fine.
56:25It just seems like they're pretty committed to Tucker Kraft being in a part time rotation.
56:30So 20 of 46 routes on the dropbacks out there typically is 85%, 90%.
56:34So I think this is going to be a multi-week scenario for Tucker Kraft.
56:38He's more of an upside tight end too than you have to start tight end one.
56:43Now we'll get to Harold Fanden Coppets. We chopped off a lot of tight ends in fantasy.
56:48Maybe he still is a top 10 tight end.
56:51But this is not the Tucker Kraft that you were drafting, hoping for the November and December production.
56:56All right, Matt, we'll send it to you next.
56:59I mean, what game should we go with here?
57:01Let's go Tampa Bay and Cincinnati. All right. Your guy, Baker Mayfield, that you hyped up all morning long.
57:07Ends the day with 216. Zero touchdowns. Zero interceptions.
57:1027 points. Looks like he does a bit too much.
57:13Four sacks and a fumble on top of it.
57:15Meanwhile, maybe we should start here with the Cincinnati Bengals and the winning team.
57:20Joe Burrow, 25 of 35, 254, one score. And like I led off with T Higgins, three for 59.
57:25Jamar Chase, two for 12. So, of course, Mike Kosicki goes five receptions, 78 yards and one score.
57:30So much talk of this Bengals offense looking different with under center dropbacks.
57:34Wasn't that different? No, they had five dropbacks from under center.
57:38Four of them came in the second quarter. That amounted to three of five for 29 yards.
57:43So they pretty much were like, okay, that's cute.
57:45We're going to stop doing that. 2.36 time to throw when Joe Burrow was in the gun, despite the sub 16% pressure rate.
57:52So there was a couple of like, oh yeah, Joe Burrow's under pressure here.
57:56But it wasn't just like they're getting overwhelmed from a pass protection standpoint.
58:00It just, I don't know, it's the Bengals defense won them this game.
58:04And maybe the Bucs shooting themselves in the foot won themselves this game, honestly.
58:08And this is one of the more successful week one outings for the Bengals, whether you look at like the Zach Taylor,
58:15Joe Burrow era when they've been out there. But it was not because of the offense whatsoever.
58:20This is just, this offense felt very weird all day long.
58:23Joe Burrow probably throws one of the worst passes of the day.
58:26A pick six to Josiah Trotter, which is just like, I don't know what he was looking at.
58:32I mean, you can watch the replay of it.
58:34Trotter is like eyes on him all the way reading what he's going to do.
58:39And he just throws it right to him. And he takes it for a pick six, which was the best thing that
58:45the Bucs defense probably did all day because those linebackers otherwise were kind of getting worked in the underneath area.
58:51So 10 of 40 from under center for Chase Brown, 6 of 16 from the gun.
58:56So it was just like when we can get under center and run the football, it looks pretty good, but we're not
59:02going to do that from the shotgun and we're not going to throw from under center.
59:07So it pretty much looked like all those August storylines went in the trash right away.
59:12This Bengals offense and Joe Burrow specifically have been slow starters, Matt.
59:15Unfortunately for them, they also get the Houston Texans defense on the road next week.
59:20So one of those teams is going to bounce back either this Bengals offense from this passing game standpoint or the Texans defense.
59:27Next week. So hopefully this was just kind of early season growing pains, but at least for the Bengals, Matt, going through that, they still won the contest.
59:35And typically the Bengals don't win the early season stuff.
59:38And really it's exactly how we said it should be over the last few years that the defense finally bailed out the offense in a way.
59:46And their defense was flying around. Like I'll give them a lot of credit there.
59:50You definitely felt the difference of having some improved players there.
59:53And like the linebackers were also definitely much improved.
59:56Now, again, bottom was or the bar was in hell in terms of what the linebackers did last year, but it was a slight improvement this year.
60:04Not perfect for sure on that side of the ball.
60:07And like I said, a lot of it was, I think, Tampa Bay making their own mistakes here on this one, but
60:13certainly a better improved improved performance by that defense for sure.
60:17All right. Let me ask you about it. Oh, go ahead.
60:20Go ahead. Go ahead. No, you go. Go, Ray.
60:23I mean, I just, the elephant in the room, man.
60:25Jamar Chase, Tee Higgins, they didn't do anything. Like nothing.
60:28Is this, was this just a byproduct of rusty week one?
60:32I mean, four targets for Chase. Like just what was going on?
60:35Like why, why did we not get more Jamar Chase looks in this one?
60:39Like people want to know this was wide receiver one, two for everybody coming into the week.
60:44And this is just, this was a bust performance from Jamar Chase.
60:48There's no way to sugarcoat it. Like, what did you see?
60:51I don't, honestly, I don't really know. They, cause you never really pushed the football down the field to these guys.
60:57I, they were just getting it out quickly. A lot of just, like I said, get in the gun and get it to Mike Gusecki in the slot.
61:06All of Mike Gusecki's production came when lined up as a slot receiver, except his one touchdown, which was when he was lined up out wide.
61:13So it was a lot of that trying to take advantage of the middle of the field coverage and just not really
61:20throwing it into the teeth in the perimeter there for Cincinnati.
61:23So probably like a, there's no big takeaways here.
61:26Just stuff happens in terms of Jamar Chase. But I did think it was a little odd that they never tried to
61:32kind of get him going a lot with the underneath stuff.
61:36So to me, it was just kind of a random performance, but it just comes to just this weird disjointedness that the
61:42Bengals offense kind of carries right now. But hopefully that's just a one week blip.
61:46Okay. Got to ask about the bucks because there were some conversations that we had.
61:51Yeah, we had an August about the scene first talk.
61:54We threw like the Bucky Irving, Kenny Gainwell passing down red zone usage stuff and then hit on Emeka Ibuka, Chris Godwin
62:00with Ibuka going five for 63 on six targets.
62:03And Chris Godwin four for 40 on his four targets.
62:06Yeah. And all of Ibuka's production came in the first half to didn't do anything in the second half.
62:12Nothing there. They were a pretty purely 11 personnel team in this one.
62:1583% of their plays came out of 11 personnel.
62:18That's 36% higher than the NFL average, according to Sumer Sports.
62:21And it did pretty much look like what we thought where Chris Godwin was in the slot.
62:26He was he was like the big slot receiver Emeka Ibuka moving around.
62:30And then Ted Hurst was absolutely sacrificial X receiver in this one.
62:34He had one pretty cool catch for his first NFL reception along the sideline.
62:38But otherwise averages 1.3 yards per route in 11 personnel.
62:41And yeah, they didn't really dabble in any heavy personnel work.
62:44But the big fantasy story is that Bucky Irving, I mean, pretty bullish pass game usage for him.
62:49He runs more routes in 11 personnel. 59% of the routes in 11 personnel.
62:5427% targets per route run. Productive, like intentional usage.
62:56He has a couple of nice catches on third down in this.
63:00Like I thought he looked explosive right away as a rusher too.
63:03So I thought Bucky Irving comes out of this one as a really, really big winner.
63:08And you know, you can kind of say that this is like a little bit of excuse making.
63:13And I think you could do this too for the next team that I'm going to talk about here in a minute.
63:20It's a new play caller. There's a lot more like motions and shifts.
63:24And you could tell the Bucks were just really disorganized in that part of it in terms of like Zach Robinson.
63:30They're asking him to do a lot. But I mean, the turnovers were just abysmal.
63:34Baker Mayfield sack fumble touchdown on the first one.
63:37Bucky then on third and 14 check down. He fumbles it.
63:40Baker, his second fumble is like a really nice little scramble to get out of pressure in the red zone.
63:46And he does this like really exaggerated juke move that he looks like he's like the uncle at the turkey bowl.
63:52And then right after that fumbles it into the end zone.
63:56And then like, he just got really greedy and carry carried away.
63:59They're just careless, careless stuff. And then he has another sack fumble after that one.
64:04So it was the full Baker Mayfield experience in this game.
64:07There's no question about that. Hey, now I want to ask you.
64:10So we're going to talk about this in stats versus film, but I would take this with Bucky Irving having what a
64:17short yardage touchdown, seven receptions on top of this, that Bucky Irving behind this offensive line might be one of the biggest
64:23winners in fantasy football in week one. Yeah, I think, yeah, there's kind of cut this thing into half.
64:29Some of the round five running backs looked bad and some of them looked good.
64:34I think Bucky passes the test here. I was going to just quickly say like, what's the point of Kenny Gainwell in fantasy?
64:40He runs a route on 36% of dropbacks. He would not be a bell cow back if there was an injury here.
64:47This was the negative game script. They were down 24 to 10 going into halftime.
64:51The Bengals defense is set up for receptions underneath with their linebacker core.
64:55Sean Tucker was out. If it's not going to happen at all with Kenny Gainwell here, then like what truly is the point?
65:02Like, why would you rather have him than Tank Bigsby, Mike Washington?
65:05You named the backup running back with actual fantasy appeal.
65:08If you're starting Kenny Gainwell in fantasy, you've been eliminated.
65:11So like, there's no point to me even rostering right now.
65:15The biggest PSYOP that Aaron Rodgers has ever been a part of is that he made us think that Kenny Gainwell is
65:21like some kind of pass game weapon because he just checked them all down to him over and over again.
65:27Yeah. Yeah. I mean, was running like legit downfield routes and that is never going to be replicated in other offense because
65:34the Steelers wide receivers like did not exist last year.
65:36Yeah. Bucky's going to rank high, I think, for Boone in our running back rankings this Wednesday because they faced the Cleveland Browns in week two.
65:44He looked great. He looked great. He was the most consistent player probably on the offense outside of, like I said, third and 14 check down fumble.
65:52All right. I'll go to the NFC East next as the Philadelphia Eagles squeak by the Washington Commanders 24 to 22.
65:58This was not a clean debut for Sean Mannion's Eagle offense.
66:02Their run game did not seem in sync early on.
66:05I mean, Saquon had a sick 42 yard run where he made two commanders run into each other at the line of
66:11scrimmage, then made Mike Sammer still stand still at the third level.
66:15But earlier in the game, he was seen like yelling on the sideline to the offensive line saying like, we got to
66:21get this right in terms of the run blocking.
66:24He was hit behind the line of scrimmage on seven of his opening 12 runs.
66:28It looked a whole lot like 2025 and not in the good way.
66:32And I mean, I even saw Eagles fans questioning if Landon Dickerson is done.
66:36So I mean, he had penalties, instant disruption, sacks like tackles for loss.
66:40It was brutal. And Cam Juergens wasn't that much better than him.
66:44But the passing game for the Eagles actually looked like the best part.
66:47I mean, Jalen Hurts finishes 14 to 25, 203 and three big touchdowns and the big time receiver in the first half.
66:54I love myself a post-hype sleeper. Let's go. That is Dontavian Wicks.
66:5764 yard pass to Dontavian Wicks early on out of 13 personnel under center.
67:02A perfect ball over the head of Mike Sammer still.
67:05That drive ends in a touchdown. Dallas Goddard down the seam from Hurts for defenders.
67:09Four verts perfectly placed. Later on the red zone, you get Dontavian Wicks versus again, Mike Sammer still.
67:14Great route versus the corners inside leverage. A fadeaway throw from Jalen Hurts makes it 14 to three.
67:20And then yes, Devontae Smith checked in a bit later on with the sweet sideline grab on 33 and five for 33 yards.
67:26And Dallas Goddard got his second touchdown. Actually legitimately running away from the commander's defense.
67:31That was just very confused in their coverage. I do want to shout out this commander's defense though.
67:36Like Durante Jones got them ready in many ways.
67:39Sonny Stiles had an unreal sack where he ran through, I think a nice block by Saquon Barkley, but submarine Tim, like
67:45just threw him to the turf and sacks Jalen Hurts.
67:48Javon Kinlaw was popping up. It just looked a lot more creative and had some interesting Minnesota Vikings wrinkles to it.
67:55And they gave Jalen Hurts in this Eagles offense a lot of fits.
67:58And if my Saquon Barkley prediction is going to pay off, this new rushing scheme has to look a whole lot better in week two, Ray.
68:06Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know how it's going to because the offensive line was shaky last year.
68:11It was shaky last year. If you would have told me one defense was going to have 10 tackles for a loss
68:18and five quarterback hits, I thought it would be Philadelphia's defense against an inoperable offense that everyone said the commanders was.
68:24But it was the complete opposite. Like, give them a ton of credit.
68:28But, yeah, I'm with you, Josh. I've got high hopes for Saquon Barkley.
68:32You still see some of the sweet moves that he has when he hits the open field, when he's one-on-one.
68:38It's lunch. It's barbecue chicken for Saquon Barkley. I'm just looking at the numbers and the box score here.
68:4325 attempts for Hurts. 25 attempts for Hurts. And we're saying that this was the best kind of part of the offense.
68:50It's just going to be slim pickings going around looking at these pass catchers.
68:54If Goddard's going to have his role, Wicks, Smith.
68:57And then I'm looking at that three for negative five, Josh.
69:00I'm looking at three for negative five. Yeah, I was going to bring that up.
69:04Makai Lemon, come on. Talk to me. Yeah, I mean, we talked about some zeros for Jordan Addison and Colson Loveland.
69:10Makai Lemon, if you're in a standard league, gave you negative points on three catches for negative five yards.
69:16He did have a three-yard gain, but then he had a couple of negative screen passes on it.
69:21As well, to get himself some negative yardage. So this is like the Devontae Smith, Danteven Wicks, Dallas Goddard show at the early part.
69:29I will add some of those 25 dropbacks was more because Jalen Hurts.
69:32Hayden, you brought this up all summer long. Looked leaner, looked meaner, looked like his scrambling self.
69:37Seven carries for 46 yards, including like a pivotal, I think like a third and 18 that he runs up the gut for 22 yards.
69:45So that was his jailed out of free card, you know, a couple years ago or even last year in one contest.
69:51But he probably looks just as good as he did in like 2024 running the football.
69:56Yeah, that's encouraging. I didn't like that you said that Landon Dickerson might be the one that's kind of falling apart because
70:03he was the one that seemed like to have the most, just like the most downside because of the injuries and like he was contemplating retirement.
70:10Like this is gonna be the week one showing with like quite frankly, a bunch of no namers.
70:16Like the Vanders had more pressures than the Eagles did in this game like that.
70:20That to me is worrisome for Philadelphia. I will say on the pass catchers, Goddard, Wicks, Lemon, Smith, they were all out
70:26there for at least 29 of the 35 dropbacks.
70:29Like this offense really is like not about snap rates.
70:32It's like let the best man win over the course of the season.
70:36I feel pretty confident it's gonna be Devante Smith by himself and the rest of these guys kind of alternating.
70:42But we don't have to worry about like Makai Lemon not playing enough snaps.
70:46Like if he's good in this offense, he will appear.
70:49That might just take a little bit of time.
70:52Yeah, and I'll add that Will Shipley was in there for like the one minute drive, which was interesting to me that it wasn't Saquon.
70:59Just something to keep in mind in the back of your head.
71:03On the commander's front, feel bad for David Blau drawing your first time being a play caller up against this.
71:08Defense like Vic Fangio, not fun first draw. And it showed.
71:12I mean, Terry McLaurin did not get a catch until 434 left in the game.
71:16We somewhat expected that, you know, that you get Fangioed, you get Quinion Mitchelled and Rick Woolen on the outside.
71:22Brandon Coleman allowed a ton of pressures at left tackle.
71:25They kind of consistently found themselves behind the sticks and behind schedule.
71:29And so that forced Jane Daniels into this playmaker style.
71:32And he popped up here with, you know, some really cool scrambles on a 14 yarder, spin moves, all that type of stuff with five carries for 31.
71:40But in the day, just 18 of 34, 164, two touchdowns.
71:43Like the gimmies weren't there for this team. I think Stefan Diggs kind of had two drops.
71:48That would have shortened the sticks a bit more.
71:51But they made it close in the end. You know, they were a two point conversion away from sending this to overtime, basically at 2424.
71:58And then again, David Blau pops up of, hey, the gotta have it short yardage play.
72:03I run a shovel pass to John Bates. And that's what I'm going to go home and start 0-1 with.
72:09Yeah, not what you want in terms of the play call there.
72:12Josh, I did note that Antonio Williams, rookie receiver.
72:15Yeah. Was the most productive receiver on the day, but he is sixth in routes.
72:19What happened with that one? So it's funny. I mean, all training camp, we heard that Traylon Burks was starting as an
72:26outside wide receiver and Traylon Burks was out there on the field today.
72:30But like you said, Antonio Williams pops up for 464 and one compared to Stefan Diggs, 455 and one.
72:35And then Chig left about halftime and he was a third best receiver with two for 16 with an injury.
72:41Uh, Antonio Williams was running a bunch of like condensed splits, slot ish stuff.
72:45Even at times he was the outside wide receiver and just kind of running across the formation and out running those corners
72:52that were kind of trailing him or in, in zone coverage.
72:55And as for Diggs, he was again, kind of schooling Cooper Dejean.
72:59We've seen some of these like veteran old school slot ish wide receivers.
73:03Like Stefan Diggs did this to him. Adam Thielen did this to Cooper Dejean and just kind of route him up at the top.
73:10Um, and you know, Diggs scored a really nice touchdown and then celebrated by sliding down the, uh, touchdown pole, uh, on top of it.
73:17So, uh, never change buddy. At that point, the commanders were only down by two.
73:21And so then his celebration penalty forced them into like a 45 yard extra point try and prohibited them from trying to
73:28go for two to tie up the game. That was like 16, 16 at the, at the moment.
73:33So, uh, yeah, Stefan Diggs never changed. Josh, can I, can I ask you, we talked about Kenner Gainwell being a psyop running back?
73:40Yes. The eye test for me looked like Bill Krosky merit.
73:44I don't care that it says 3.9 in attempt.
73:46He looked like the best running back. Like what are we doing with Rashad white?
73:51He's supposed to be this past catching maven. He had what?
73:54One catch two catches on the day is, is this the bill backfield?
73:58Should it be the bill cross camera backfield? It should absolutely be the bill backfield.
74:02And his first carry went for 10 yards. Like his second carry went for 11 yards.
74:07He got the goal line touchdown on top of that.
74:10Uh, he just has more juice, more strength than Rashad white.
74:13They actually kept Rashad white in there for one third and one.
74:17He got suffer loss obviously. And they had to punt.
74:20Um, look, if you have Jane Daniels at quarterback, you're not going to dump it off to Rashad white often.
74:26Like that is the theory of the play with Rashad white.
74:29They have a pocket passer that he racks up some PPR scam stuff.
74:33And you just don't do that when your Jane Daniels can extend and get to the sideline or throw it away or sometimes scramble on top of it.
74:41So, uh, yeah, Rashad white still not an effective runner.
74:44I will add that bill fumbled a bit later on Josh Connolly fell on it.
74:48So it didn't turn into a negative play. And then Katron Allen did pop in there for a couple of those runs after bill.
74:55But when they go back and review it again, just the size, the movement, the power of bill just totally overshadows what Rashad white brings the table here.
75:04And how did Jaden look? Just, just like, how did he look?
75:07He was injured last year. Did he look, did he look good?
75:11Did he, did you feel good about him moving forward?
75:14He looked fine. Okay. I mean, he took some hits.
75:17He got back up. Uh, and there were some off target passes.
75:20It looked like a new offense. Again, they had some mechanical, uh, you know, false starts, formation, some weird timeouts from Dan Quinn.
75:27It just looked like they were in the first time of a new offense.
75:31I don't want to judge them too harshly for facing Vic Fangio.
75:35Cause I think that's like the worst thing to roll up on, on week one.
75:39Uh, I'm in wait and see with this commander's offense.
75:42It did feel at times, right? I don't know if it's going to make sense that David Blau was like calling plays at times versus running an offense.
75:50Like they would do the under center stuff. Cause now it's, everything's involved and that's exactly what the league is supposed to do.
75:57And yet it just ended with Jaden Daniels running for his life and just out of a different formation and different look.
76:04So we'll see. I'm, I'm, I'm in wait and see mode for, for David Blau.
76:08Okay, Matt, we're going to send it back to you to close up this one.
76:13Uh, it's the upset of the day. I mean, it has to be the upset of the day as what?
76:19Nine and a half point underdogs as the Arizona Cardinals beat the LA chargers, not by a little bit, but by 12 points, 26 to 14.
76:26You have been Cardinals curious this entire summer and it paid off.
76:30Yeah, baby. Yeah. I was going to say when the Hayden mentioned, don't search the floor on Twitter.
76:35If you're going to do it, just make sure you get the right.
76:39The floor, because man is, is Mike Lafleur, the new guy.
76:42Uh, people are saying, uh, we'll see how I can get you guys.
76:46Cardinals curious by the end of this recap, because they were by far not even close.
76:51The better team on the field today. It was, this is, this is, this is embarrassing for the, this is an embarrassing game for the chargers.
76:58Just, just straight up. Like, I do want to talk about the Cardinals first, but you know, when I was going to
77:05say like, well, you know, bucks new offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson, you know, Mike McDaniel, new offensive coordinator here.
77:11These are complicated offenses with a lot of shifts, a lot of motion.
77:14We saw the bears and the Jags kind of struggle with this last year with new play callers taking over what were very static offenses previously.
77:22At the same time, you can give all those same caveats to the team on the other side here in the Arizona Cardinals.
77:29And this team there looked crisp. They handled everything really professionally.
77:32Like Jacoby Brissett in the first half was in total control of this offense.
77:3616 completions on 21 pass attempts. All three of his top pass catchers there, McBride, Marv, Wilson, all of them lost like what I would call tough catches.
77:45None of them were just like, oh man, that's a drop or something like that.
77:49It was just really tough. Like kind of, you got to adjust to it.
77:53He maybe threw it a little bit where he didn't want it.
77:57They had to extend for it. And then he had a risky throwaway when in the grasp of Khalil Mack to avoid
78:03running out the clock to close the first half.
78:06But that those were his only like real incompletions overall.
78:09He was, like I said, in total control of this offense.
78:12Jeremiah love you immediately are just like, oh yeah, that guy's really good at football.
78:17Like first touchdown on the opening drive. It was five touches to four between Jeremiah love and Tyler Algeer in the opening quarter.
78:23And it's just like, yeah, one of these guys moves differently.
78:27Like it's really good to have him out there and like kind of winning in tight spaces at the line of scrimmage.
78:33Just finding an extra lane as a dump off receiver to just keeping the offense moving.
78:38It's like, yeah, I know third overall running back value, whatever.
78:41Kind of helpful to have that guy on the offense.
78:44And the other guy we got to give a shout out to Kendrick Bourne does his best Khalif Raymond impression as the
78:51like, hey, I know that I've worked with the coach previously.
78:54I know this offense boys like saddle up for a lot of targets to Kendrick Bourne.
78:58He was awesome in this game. So yeah, Brissette.
79:01Obviously McBride was McBride. Jeremiah love. And then the receivers kind of chipped in along the way.
79:06Marv had a really nice 33 yard tight coverage win along the sideline.
79:10Michael Wilson kind of started slow, but picked up later has about 50 yards in this game.
79:15So like I said, just really organized, really crisp.
79:18And they ultimately ran 72 plays to 51 for the Chargers.
79:21The Chargers would just go long periods without having the ball because the drives were about equals 11 drives to Arizona, 10 to Los Angeles.
79:28But just the Cardinals could stay on the field and the Chargers couldn't.
79:32Matt, let's spin this forward because the Cardinals in the next two games, I'm glad they won in week one.
79:38It's Seattle and San Francisco over the next two.
79:41Yeah. Right. What do you expect with the backfield?
79:43Obviously, Jeremiah love gets there. He scores a touchdown.
79:4611 carries 41. I'm surprised it's only two receptions for nine yards.
79:50Do you think the backfield is going to look with this split or as Jeremiah love still recovers from the high ankle
79:56sprain is just going to be more and more and more in his direction?
80:00I think it'll just be more and more in Jeremiah's direction.
80:04He just is pretty clearly. I mean, Algier is not going to go away.
80:08He's a good back. And, you know, he did help them early on and grind things out late.
80:13Like he'll still be involved, but I think it will tilt more and more to the rookie's favor.
80:18Okay. And then one follow up on the Cardinals.
80:21I see McBride nine for 95 and one. I see Michael Wilson five for 56.
80:25That doesn't even mention Kendrick Bourne's eight for 75.
80:28If you're saying that this offense is well coached and it was on point and they were ready to play.
80:34I see Marvin Harrison, Jr. Three targets, one reception, 33 yards.
80:37Like, I don't want to say it's over already, but like, that's kind of fifth option on this offense.
80:43It seems that's tough. Yeah. The Bourne stuff definitely throws a wrench.
80:46I think for both of these wide receivers, which I liked.
80:50I mean, I drafted a ton of Michael Wilson and kind of sprinkled in Marvin Harrison.
80:54So the Bourne variable is definitely one. I probably wish I had considered a little bit more because he's a good player.
81:01Like I said, he was with Michael floor when they were together as the wide receiver coach with San Francisco 49ers.
81:07Like, I don't think he's going away. He runs a route on about 77% of the dropbacks, which was, you know, a
81:14decent bit behind both Wilson McBride and Harrison. But when he was out there, he was getting targeted.
81:19So that definitely throws a wrench in any like Marvin Harrison, Jr.
81:22Big leap forward. Michael Wilson sustaining what he did last year, because obviously Trey McBride is the guy and, you know, was
81:29the one we all ranked the highest. But I wouldn't say it's I definitely don't think it's over for Marv.
81:35Like he did again. He had one really nice reception in this game.
81:39But, you know, is he someone I'm starting against the Seahawks next week?
81:43No, definitely not. Okay. I'll ask the questions with the Chargers because Matt, I saw three catches for like 60 yards on
81:49the opening drive that Lad McConkie and Mike McDaniel had together.
81:52And I was like, I'm going to eat good all season long.
81:56The Chargers are just going to put it on the board week after week, drive after drive.
82:01And then what he exits the game after seven targets, five receptions, 82 yards and a touchdown.
82:06And no one can function from there. What the hell happened?
82:09I mean, this if you were one of the people, you know, and I was one of these people, I think I
82:16think you guys all were that thought that it's Lad McConkie and then like, OK, there's some interesting players, but like a
82:22pretty significant drop off between one and two. You absolutely felt that the moment that Lad left this game, because I mean,
82:29first drive, it's three completions for 60 yards from Justin Herbert and Mike McDaniel's offense.
82:33They all go to Lad McConkie, 18 yards, 23 yards, 19 yards, explosive plays doing exactly what you would imagine from him.
82:40His fourth target is a long pass interference on first and 20.
82:43Then he has another 14 yard catch, a touchdown in the red zone.
82:47And then, you know, Justin Herbert kind of throws it a little high on an in-breaking route later in the game.
82:53And he just gets popped in the ribs. And that's kind of like this is a little bit of the Lad McConkie experience, right?
83:00It's it's he's looks really great. I love him as a player.
83:04But my one question with him is like, does he have the body to sustain a lot of punishment one week in and kind of a discouraging answer?
83:12And like you said, Josh, they could not function after he was gone.
83:16The charges average 12.4 yards to go on third down today.
83:19That's one of the more disgusting stats. And then, I mean, late in this game, the chart of this is from Jordan
83:26Roderick, our friend who also is Cardinals curious, by the way, charters were down 23 to 14.
83:31Offense takes over penalty, penalty, penalty, pass breakup, burn a timeout to avoid a delay of game penalty pass for 12 yards
83:37on third and 30 short pass on fourth and 18 penalty turnover on downs.
83:41Like it was not good. Like the offensive line was probably worse than we would have expected.
83:46The run game was, you know, like Amari and Hampton had some moments.
83:50Keaton Mitchell was mixing in a lot earlier than I would have thought.
83:54But Hampton, like he looks great when he's just going downhill.
83:57But, you know, we got to kind of change directions a little bit faster there.
84:02A lot of questions for this one coming out here.
84:05I do think we need to spend more time on the run game, though, because I think this was like you're going
84:11to get explosives and that's going to help Herbert kind of calm things down a little bit.
84:16They had negative yards before contact in this one.
84:19The Chargers did. Yeah, I mean, the line was not good.
84:22That's that's really bad. I haven't loved Amari and Hampton's vision, so I can't wait to go back and watch this a bit.
84:29All right. This is the guards fault or this is the center's fault or is this Hampton's fault?
84:34And I do think that Keaton Mitchell mixing in there just a little bit.
84:38That's kind of like how Amari and Hampton can like finish as like the RB 12 instead of like the RB 7 or something like that.
84:46So, yeah, super disappointing season or game for Hampton and Justin Herbert.
84:50Yep, Matt, like I don't want to take this too far.
84:53So often there are things after week one that stay as fact for the next 17 weeks, but there's always like those
84:59one or two games that we jumped conclusions and we look stupid for jumping to conclusions.
85:04I am at least hoping that the Chargers are one of these teams that just put their worst foot forward in week
85:11one and it just gets better from here. But I don't know some of the things that you're talking up of how
85:17that might not come to pass leaves me nervous as in poor blocking.
85:21Yeah, guard center guard combo. Not great wide receivers behind Lad McConkie.
85:25I mean QJ does nothing here. Trey Harris does nothing here.
85:28Arande Gadsden two for 32 and then once Lad leaves, it's David Njoku for five for 58.
85:33What are we doing? And like I said, just completely overwhelmed on the interior offensive line in the run and pass game.
85:39So, you know, that's definitely going to make the receivers look worse, but I certainly don't think they have anything more than
85:46a maybe interesting wide receiver three in Quinton Johnson and a maybe interesting rotational player in Trey Harris behind Lad McConkie.
85:52So he definitely is the straw that stirs the drink on this one.
85:56And when he was out of there, like I said, they just they had absolutely nothing in the second half, which was super discouraging.
86:03I wouldn't I'm not going to full on panic on the Chargers.
86:07And like I said, to be fair, even though the Cardinals beat this accusation, I do think like what the Jags looked
86:13like in the first half of last year in the Bears is instructive.
86:17It's a new offense. It's really complicated. A lot of changes.
86:20And that that can cause a team to look disjointed.
86:23And hopefully they pick it up here in short order, but really discouraging debut.
86:27Matt, I'll just say this was pretty damn disappointing.
86:30This Cardinals team, everybody projected them to be the worst team in the NFL, picking number one overall, lowest amount of touchdowns scored in there on the road.
86:38And they put BTA on the Chargers. I mean, Hampton looked pretty bad when I was watching them.
86:43I'm like, come on, dude. Like this is they need to get it together.
86:48This was this is inexcusable, in my opinion. Right.
86:50To that point, like the Chargers need to start fast.
86:53Your two opening games were the Cardinals and the Raiders.
86:56And then after that, it's Buffalo, Seattle, both on the road.
86:59Then Denver, Kansas City, the Rams, the Texans and the Ravens.
87:03Like you had to start to know the season.
87:05So they better freaking bounce back next week against the Raiders or else we're in a big, big, big trouble here.
87:12And Ray, that's a perfect transition into your game as the Raiders start one and oh on the season.
87:17I was Dolphins curious, Matt. And that did not turn out to be good here in week one in the game that they should and could win.
87:25But the Raiders, this is their easiest matchup in the opening 11 weeks, 27 points on this Dolphins defense.
87:31Kirk Cousins, 21 or 30, just for 160 yards.
87:33Three touchdowns, two interceptions. But Ray, the headliner, I guess, is Ashton Gentry, 23 carries, 102 yards.
87:38And he's also the team's leading receiver, six receptions, 45 and two scores.
87:42Yeah, I thought his ankle was broken. I thought it was hanging on by a thread.
87:47Prayer candles and circles, turning the music down. Ashton Gentry became only the 10th player since 1999 with 100 rushing yards and
87:54at least two receiving TDs in the same regular season game.
87:57I mean, he looked great. He looked great as the primary running back.
88:01Michael Mayer led them in targets. So he was the Brock Bowers replacement.
88:04He was not Brock Bowers levels of good. I almost fumbled the ball in this one.
88:09But I'll just say the biggest takeaway watching this was Clint Kubiak was very much in command.
88:14The offense looked good. The Raiders put up 27 points in this one.
88:18And as nasty as the game felt, like Miami's just so young, y'all.
88:22This is the youngest team in the league. I didn't think Malik Willis was great, but he also wasn't awful in this matchup.
88:29But it was just too much Ashton Gentry downhill in the receiving game.
88:33He was everything for the Raiders. I thought Mike Washington played well, but this is somebody you do not want to flex.
88:39You don't want to play those games. There was nothing from Trey Tucker, nothing from Jalen Naylor.
88:44One of Kirk Cousins' interceptions actually came on another target to Jack Besh, who scored a touchdown in this one.
88:50It'll be interesting to watch his snaps and his participation moving forward.
88:54But the big takeaway is if Gentry's going to be this involved on the ground and through the air, he's going to be awesome.
89:01He was incredible in this one. And I can only imagine how much better he can get down the line.
89:07Clint Kubiak was great. Like, he just called an awesome game plan at one point.
89:11They had like a nine-minute drive, just eating up clock.
89:14They played really good ball against, obviously, a very young and not very good team in Miami.
89:19But the Raiders were solid for their first outing.
89:22Yeah, I love seeing no sacks for Kirk Cousins.
89:24To me, that's a sign of good coaching. Is there free rushers coming at you and hitting your quarterback?
89:30Is there negative four-yard carries all the time? It does not seem like we had that much of all.
89:36Ray, explain the, like, Ashton Gentry, like, types of targets.
89:38I think both of those were, what, end zone targets?
89:41Did he, like, leak out? Like, was his design stuff?
89:44Like, what level of receptions could we expect from Ashton Gentry here?
89:48Oh, no, man. He was looking like CMC out there, Hayden.
89:51It wasn't just, like, swing routes out of the backfield.
89:54I mean, his first touchdown, I mean, he was, it was downfield.
89:58There were some yards down there, right? He had a nice little angle route.
90:02Got the touchdown. I thought it was a receiver.
90:05I was like, oh, man, that's Ashton Gentry number two there.
90:08And then they got him again. It was very creative how Kubiak was deploying Gentry out of the backfield.
90:13And you can tell early on whether it was through the air or on the ground.
90:18Like, the game plan was get the ball out of Kirk Cousins' hands quickly and get the ball to Ashton Gentry.
90:24Like, he was, like, sneakily a lot better than we probably expected last year through the air.
90:29And to start off this year doing the same thing that he kind of left off doing last season, like, I feel a lot better.
90:37I mean, six receptions for 45 yards and two touchdowns for your, for what most people consider, like, this grinder, bell cow type running back.
90:44It was, it was a great performance from Ashton Gentry.
90:47And I don't even think he's 100% running out there right now.
90:51So, hey, now I would say, I mean, this, this six catches, five, six receptions, I think we should be banking on that pretty much weekly from Gentry.
90:59Interesting. I mean, to me, part of this is how bad Miami is.
91:03Like, they are rough both on offense and especially on defense.
91:06Like, no defensive linemen. Their linebackers are fine, but their corners and safeties are atrocious.
91:10Like, this is the easiest game that the Raiders have on the schedule for the next 11 weeks.
91:16So that's something I want to keep in mind.
91:18Ray, I did want to ask you, typically with Fent Kubiak passing offenses, it's downfield explosives.
91:23It seemed like that wasn't the case here. It was more kind of underneath stuff, intermediate-ish.
91:28How do they fill in for Brock Bowers? Like, what was the usage with Jack Bash and Michael Mayer and those types?
91:34Yeah, Mayer was right there at the top, right?
91:37Seven targets for Mayer. And I believe another seven targets for Ashton Gentry.
91:41So, well, six for Gentry, seven for Mayer. Besh really wasn't involved after halftime much.
91:45I'll just say, like, none of the receivers really felt like they were a big part of the game plan.
91:51There wasn't a lot of stuff down the field.
91:54It really felt, I mean, 5.3 yards average for Kirk Cousins.
91:57It was get the ball out of his hands as quick as possible.
92:01Like, he was not taking five and seven-step drops.
92:04There was no play action to shoot it downfield.
92:06It was get it out quick. Michael Mayer, not a lot on his receptions either.
92:115.3 yards of reception for Michael Mayer. It was quick.
92:14It was get it out. Like, it just felt like Las Vegas knew that they could get the dub.
92:19And it was, let's do what we need to to get up out of here, keep everybody healthy.
92:25At one point, like Mendoza, they're showing him on the sideline.
92:28I was like, did something happen to Kirk Cousins?
92:31Two interceptions from Kirk, you're going to get what you get from that angle.
92:35But I highly doubt, without Bowers, the way that Mayer was deployed in the route was not the way that Bowers was deployed.
92:41They play two completely different tight end roles, which makes me think that when Bowers is back, like, that's where your explosives come from, from Brock Bowers.
92:49And then Mayer is still kind of like an underneath outlet option.
92:53We got the report from this morning that Brock Bowers has a chance to play this next week.
92:58With the win, can we just buy him another week maybe?
93:02Can we just take this guy's career seriously for once in our lifetime?
93:05My other note from this one, Chris Johnson, a first-round corner, and this tends to happen with rookie corners.
93:11He was targeted 12 times in this game. So that's just like something I always like to figure out is where are
93:18the rookie corners that are actually playing? Because offensive coordinators, especially good ones like Kubiak, tend to just like target them because those guys' heads are spinning.
93:26And I think that's something we have to pay attention to with Miami.
93:29Ray, let me ask you about Miami's offense. Malik Willis, 15-27, 220 in interception.
93:34Five sacks taken. He's also the team's leading rusher.
93:36Six carries, 39 yards, one score. Devon Achan on the day as a round one-two turn running back.
93:4111 carries, 36 yards, four catches, 30 yards against the Las Vegas Raiders defense in negative game script.
93:47And then their receivers, Caleb Douglas, five for 94.
93:49Malik Washington, three for 53. Believe all of that was in the second half.
93:54And then Chris Bell, just one catch for 25.
93:56Overall, first look at this Dolphins offense. What was your takeaway?
94:00Not the same as last year. Like, that was the big takeaway.
94:03It's, it was not the same that the involvement, even the announcers were saying, Achan is a very good pass catcher.
94:09Why are they not throwing him the ball? 94.1% of backfield opportunities.
94:13Jalen Wright had one carry, zero routes, no targets.
94:15It was all Achan, but 11 carries. There wasn't much.
94:18Like, the offensive line was overmatched. Max Crosby was giving Malik Willis hell all game.
94:23Quiddie Paye was all over him. I think both of those players had two sacks in the game.
94:28Achan, you love the 16, you know, 16 touches by Achan.
94:31And you love the 21 routes, but the line has got to play better.
94:36Harmon, we kind of talked about the line. They got an all pro up there at their center position, Brewer.
94:42And they've got all these additions. You draft Caden Proctor.
94:44But it was just a rough outing. Like, this Raiders defensive line gave them fits.
94:49Caleb Douglas looked good. Chris Bell had one catch down the field.
94:52Malik Washington in the second half looked fine. This is, you know, Malik Willis, he threw for 220.
94:58He ran for a touchdown, which you're hoping that he can continue to do.
95:02And he looked fine in that. But it's very obvious that they're just lacking weapons.
95:06They're lacking big-time playmakers. They've got no tight end.
95:09Like, they didn't even get Greg Dolchich involved. I don't know what Slowick, what his game plan was in this one.
95:15It just felt like they wanted Willis to drop back and deal.
95:19And that's not the type of quarterback that he is.
95:22You got to do a little more. There was not a lot of RPO stuff with Willis.
95:27It was drop back and try to dissect the defense, and he was incapable of doing that.
95:32All right. We'll head to the next game, and this one should be quick.
95:36Pittsburgh Steelers 20, Atlanta Falcons 13, because this one went as expected.
95:39Cooper Rush cannot function. Just simply cannot function. And the Falcons' offense was entirely B.
95:44John Robinson. I mean, I can talk through that immediately if you want me to, where he had 29 opportunities B.
95:50John Robinson did. Brian Robinson had nine carries. And then the wide receivers and tight ends combined for six touches.
95:56Oh, I mean, come on. I mean, it's so bad.
95:59I mean, I can go quickly through how awful it was.
96:02Like, there was a second and 19. Kyle Pitts was open down the seam.
96:06He wins one-on-one versus Jalen Ramsey. Cooper Rush, like, gets the yips, underthrows it, and it's broken up.
96:12The passes to Drake London were high and wide and all over the place.
96:16His touchdown to B. John Robinson was B. John lining up at wide receiver.
96:20It was a wide receiver screen, so it had a negative A dot.
96:24And then he takes it for, like, a 24-yard touchdown himself.
96:27Kevin Zafansky just realized that if the ball doesn't get in Seven's hands, the ball isn't moving at all.
96:33Cooper Rush had a middle-of-field interception that was horrible.
96:35Cooper Rush then threw a pick six to T.J.
96:38Watt when he was trying to have a swing pass to the running back out of backfield.
96:43And T.J. Watt just grabbed it and ran into the end zone.
96:47This was a brutal, brutal watch. Now, on the opposite end for the Pittsburgh Steelers, there were some, you know, moments.
96:53I mean, obviously, every so often, Aaron Rodgers would have, like, some nice downfield passes, like a long shot to Roman Wilson, pass interference on A.J.
97:00Terrell that would have been a touchdown. In out-of-structure's second down touchdown to Pat Fryermuth's second-phase play in the red zone.
97:07He had another pass interference with D.K. Metcalf, and then D.K.
97:10was also called for OPI later on. We can talk about the running back rotation because that might have been the most notable takeaway.
97:17But, yeah, I mean, the Falcons are an unserious organization, and I feel bad for you for as long as Cooper Rush
97:24starts for your Drake London and Cal Petshares. It's just so early to be talking about a Cooper Rush start.
97:29Like, it's week one. It's so, so early. Josh, I don't know if this just adds to the pain or if you
97:36could even stomach noticing something like this. But can you tell me anything about, like, Drake London's alignment and usage?
97:42Because this is... It doesn't even matter. There's a consolation bracket.
97:45I know it doesn't matter. I know it doesn't matter, but it matters for me personally.
97:50So, you know. Matt, it didn't matter for me live.
97:53I was watching another game while this one was on the second screen.
97:57I'm sure we'll talk about it in stats versus film.
98:00But I don't think it matters as much if Drake London was at the X or the Z.
98:05Heck, if he was in the backfield. Like, none of...
98:08He even got a carry in this game because Cooper Rush was so panicked quickly going through his reads.
98:13He has no out-of-structure ability to his game. Like, Michael Penix off of four knee surgeries is going to be so much
98:20better than Cooper Rush in this offense. And I can't wait for the day that Michael Penix is back under center here, Hayden.
98:27Listen, but guys, I just wanted to have something to ask.
98:30I don't know why. I got an answer for you.
98:33Drake London 10 snaps in the slot. Does that move anything for you, Matt?
98:37Ooh. It's 16%. 16%. That's got to be, like, one of his lowest.
98:41Josh, real talk. If Rush starts again, are you just...
98:4459 points. So if there ever was a week, if there ever was a week, Cooper, now is the time to do it.
98:51The Steelers running back room was really interesting. It was mostly drive-by-drive early on.
98:55But that ended with Rico Dattel 39 snaps to Jalen Warren's 25 snaps.
98:59Jalen Warren did fumble on a screen early on.
99:01He also had 15 total touches, including five receptions, compared to Dattel's, I think, 10 total touches.
99:06Both got red zone snaps here. So I don't know how much we can read into any of this stuff, other than, you know, one guy fumbling.
99:14And it's not like one guy is running away with the job here in week one either, Hayden.
99:20Well, I will say the split between passes and carries in this game is staggering, considering how inept the Falcons' offense was.
99:26They dropped back, what, 42 times for the Steelers?
99:29And that's 18 carries for the Steelers. Like, that is a huge split.
99:33Like, that would be, like, leading the NFL in neutral pass rate if this holds.
99:37And, like, we have seen McCarthy dial up crazy pass-first offenses here.
99:41Like, if that's the offense that we're getting, and maybe that's just because the Falcons have no pass rushers, they can't stop the run either.
99:48So, like, you can go either way here. I think that would be a pretty big win for Jalen Warren.
99:54Like, the fact that he got six targets in this game, and they felt like they probably had a good chance of
100:00winning this throughout, that, to me, leans like this will be Warren over Rico Dattel.
100:05Yeah, we'll see. I mean, Rico was in there a lot, too.
100:08And I think Mike McCarthy really liked him just based on how that flow of the game was going.
100:14Troy Flotano left at some point. In this one.
100:17So, the first-round pick, Max Iron Atcher, came in at right tackle, and then their right tackle moved over to left tackle.
100:23I also want to add Chris Lindstrom, the Falcons' best offensive lineman, left a concussion in this contest, too.
100:29So, that goes from bad to worse there. Pat Frymuth is, again, someone that Aaron Rodgers had talked up in terms of
100:35filling in for Michael Pittman, who was injured. Now, Michael Pittman is the leading receiver here.
100:40DK's, we'll talk about DK in Sass vs. Film.
100:43He had, like, hidden yardage, both that he gave up because of OPI, and that was taken away for DPI, too.
100:49So, it doesn't show up here, but I really do believe DK was the wide receiver one for this team, and it
100:55shows up in the 10 targets by, again, just four catches for 40 yards on top of that.
101:01Okay. Ray, we'll go through this. While I was wrong about the Dolphins being frisky in week one, I was correct about
101:07the Jets being frisky as they dominate the Tennessee Titans 23-10.
101:11Geno Smith, 19-24, 2-50. Brees Hall, 22 carries, 102 yards and a score.
101:14Garrett Wilson, 6-79. Adonai Mitchell, 3-60. Jets fans are in heaven.
101:18They should feel good. They should feel great after this one because the Jets look like a, I mean, they just look so much more prepared.
101:25It was the best players on the field, every position, both sides of the ball, belonged to the New York Jets.
101:32Omar Cooper Jr. starts that thing off with a 30-yard reception on the first drive, then he sprains his ankle and he leaves.
101:38Kenyon Sadiq, rushing the score. Brees Hall and Braylon Allen looked great.
101:42Braylon Allen also had, I think it was close to a 20-yard touchdown run, called back due to a holding penalty.
101:48Brees Hall getting all the work out of the backfield.
101:51I mean, he's just spinning off of defenders. Bell Cal Brees, I thought Braylon Allen played exceptionally well.
101:56And Geno Smith was good. He did what he needed to do.
102:00No touchdowns, no interceptions, no sacks. He was only hit one time.
102:03This Tennessee defense could do nothing to get Geno Smith off his mark, under pressure.
102:08And he got the ball to Garrett Wilson. 30% target share, as Garrett Wilson always does.
102:13Brees Hall and Braylon Allen led the backfield. Wasn't a big day from Kenyon Sadiq, but he's healthy.
102:18He finished the game. I was pleasantly surprised with what I saw from the Jets' offensive side of the ball.
102:24Ray, can I ask about Garrett Wilson? Was there any slot involvement?
102:27It looked like he's kind of a part-time player here.
102:3023 routes on 28% of the dropbacks. Was that because of the game at the end?
102:35Or was anything different about Garrett Wilson, as we can actually probably take him serious for the first time as a potential top 15 fantasy receiver?
102:43Yeah. If you watch it back, which I highly don't recommend you do, Hayden.
102:47They moved him around quite a bit. He was all over the place.
102:51Downfield work. It wasn't cheap, gimmicky stuff for Garrett Wilson.
102:54And there was another, his one target that he didn't get.
102:57I mean, it would have been another big play for Wilson.
103:00I thought he played really well and made some good grabs.
103:03And it was, Geno Smith knew where to go.
103:06Like, he played under control. He got the ball out on time.
103:10I was, I'm watching them. And I'm like, man, I am, I'm using this loosely, impressed with this Jets' offense.
103:16But, y'all, I'm telling y'all that Tennessee, there are big, big problems in Tennessee.
103:20Big problems. Big problems. Yeah, let's talk through that.
103:22Because it was like 0-0, six minutes left in like the first quarter.
103:26This should be like an early play sheet call for Brian Dayball.
103:30And he has like a double reverse action where Cam Ward, the action is him flipping the ball to himself as he's
103:36hitting the end of his drop back. And then he hits his back foot and then drives straight up into a sack.
103:43Like, we said it in the summer, but Brian Dayball is probably looking at the last season of his play calling.
103:49That is just, you don't see that across the league.
103:52That's horrible stuff. 49 plays for the Titans. 49 plays, 4.0 yards per play.
103:56I'm not trying to be hard on Cam Ward.
103:59At some point, the excuses have to stop. I mean, he's drifting back.
104:03It should have been a safety on one of the plays.
104:06There was one point where he like shuffled the ball backward.
104:09Like, he just like pitched it to somebody. It looks like he had no idea what was going on.
104:15And I don't want to discount the Jets defense, but it's not like they were playing the 85 Bears out there as well.
104:22Like, this offense, you talk about inoperable. The offensive line was a mess.
104:25Cam Ward's footwork, his mechanics in the pocket. It's either big play or bust.
104:29I mean, Cardinal Tech caught the ball, but it doesn't matter when it goes for like 20-something yards.
104:35Wondell Robinson, it doesn't matter when he's getting thrown the ball four or five yards down the field.
104:40Tony Pollard, nothing on the ground. Tajay Spears running.
104:43Cam Ward couldn't hit swing routes to the running backs out of the backfield.
104:47It was that bad. They didn't score a touchdown until two minutes left in the game.
104:52And you're just like, yeah, the touchdown game with two minutes left, two minutes and 50 seconds left.
104:57And Elik Aumannor gets a slant route, scores a touchdown.
105:00Awful, awful performance from the Tennessee Titans. And I am very concerned for Carnell Tate, Wondell Robinson, and Brian Dayball as a play caller.
105:07I only have two things to add here because I pretty much watched zero seconds of this game.
105:12Maybe we'll keep it that way. We'll see. One, Surrender Index, which is an account on Twitter, tracks like cowardly punts.
105:19The Titans with a minute and 12 seconds left in the third on fourth and nine while losing three to 20, they punted.
105:25That was a 100th percentile out of cowardly punts since 1999.
105:29And then our friend Easton Freeze asked Robert Sala after the game for his message to fans who are shell-shocked and tempted
105:35to save their money and be apathetic about this football team.
105:38It's week one. Dude, it was bad, y'all. Like, I'm not trying to be funny here.
105:43It was bad. Right. It's about to get even worse.
105:46The Titans then get Vic Fangio's defense in week two.
105:49Then the fourth game of the season is Jesse Minter's Baltimore Ravens.
105:53Then the fifth game of the season is D'Amico Ryan's Houston Texans.
105:56So three of these next four games are three on paper of the best defenses in the league.
106:01And you only put up 10 points and what, 140 yards?
106:05I guess the week one. I mean, that's brutal stuff.
106:08How many points are they going to score? The last note that I have is I feel very bad for Jeremiah Smith
106:14or Arch Manning because that looked like the worst team in the NFL today.
106:18They look awful. Matt, question for you. Who scores more points?
106:22The Chicago Bears through week eight or the Tennessee Titans through week 18?
106:25Oh, definitely the Bears. The Bears. I mean, easily.
106:28Easily. Easily. Yeah, no question. That's the easiest question you've asked me all episode.
106:32So 18 games versus eight games. We're going with the team with eight games.
106:36Take it to the Bay, Josh. Yes. That is incredible stuff.
106:40Wow. Okay. Hayden. And speaking of maybe even worse offenses, we'll close out with you.
106:44The Cleveland Browns scored 10 points in their debut with Todd Munkin as Deshaun Watson goes 16 to 22.
106:50205, though. Five sacks taken. He is the team's leading rusher with six carries for 38.
106:54We're bearing the lead where the Jacksonville basically had to take their foot off the acceleration for the entire second half.
107:01Posting 34 points. Posting 34 points in total. Trevor Lawrence, 18 of 23 to 45 for touchdown passes.
107:06We'll talk through the wide receivers. Parker Washington with 85 for 83 and one.
107:10Jacobi Myers, two for 40 and one. And then obviously the running back room.
107:14Ray, the Browns have the Titans and it's going to be a close competition this year.
107:19This game was equally as bad with the Browns.
107:22It was within three minutes of the game. Deshaun Watson, I mean, threw it directly to a Jacksonville defender.
107:27That one was really bad. There was many other missed opportunities for interceptions.
107:31But what was so strange about the brand, not strange, like very predictable.
107:35The reason why they went with Deshaun Watson in a road environment is because like he can execute the offense.
107:41There were so many delay of games or needing to call a timeout to avoid delay of games in the two minute drill.
107:48He had to take a delay of game for no reason.
107:51That set up a first and 30. His time to throw was like almost four seconds in this one.
107:56Later in the game, they had to call a timeout for a delay of game where he's like literally at the line
108:03of scrimmage with his wristband going through the place.
108:06Like with as the seconds go down from two to one to zero.
108:09There was nothing functional about this game. Denzel Boston catches like a go ball touchdown.
108:14That was a great catch from him later on.
108:17They try to get Casey Concepcion going a little bit.
108:19There's like an end around. There was a screen.
108:22He fumbled on that screen. He did have a little out route for a first down.
108:27But it was to the point where this team is so horrific that this could be a team like the Titans where
108:33it's like you can't start anybody to the point where I think should do or probably should just start the following game here.
108:40There was like nothing that Deshaun Watson did at all.
108:43Even what they were trying to say, like you cannot watch that game and say the operation was good at all.
108:49So all that's predictable. Jacksonville is going to kick everyone's ass.
108:53They got pass rushers. They can stop the run.
108:55They got obviously Travis Hunter out there at corner as well.
108:59But that was like as bad as he gets there.
109:01And then Dylan Sampson leaves with the knee injury.
109:04So it's just like you really can't you really can't start anybody here.
109:08I mean, this is the downside of drafting someone like Quinchon Judkins, who's I think a tough rank for me because he's
109:14so awesome with the ball in his hands as a runner.
109:18And yet when you face an overpowering full of Monstars defensive line like the Jaguars, he just has no chance and you're going to get negative game script.
109:26And then he has, you know, two targets for 17 yards on top of his 12 carries for 33.
109:32So, Matt, I mean, we're not going to get a horrible matchup like this all the time.
109:37But at the same time, it's going to be tough to, I think, pick your spots with Quinchon Judkins unless he's, you know, just a flex player.
109:45Yeah, I think he's a flex only type for now.
109:48They get the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Tampa. So now you have to deal with the Vita Vea of it all over there.
109:54So it's not going to get any easier this next week.
109:58He did it on that swing pass. He did like a break a tackle and he still looks awesome to me, but
110:04he's like a low end flex until proven otherwise.
110:07Deshaun Watson, like at least like looked more athletic than he had before.
110:11But his decision making is so far away from what is acceptable in the NFL that even that as a compliment, like is completely irrelevant.
110:18On to Jacksonville, a serious team, serious organization. Trevor Lawrence was phenomenal in this one for a couple of reasons.
110:24One, he was not under duress. There was only four pressures on 24 dropbacks, 17%.
110:28This could be one of the worst offensive lines going into the NFL this year.
110:33And that did not seem to be a problem.
110:35Jared Verse went pressureless in this one for Cleveland.
110:38That's not a good sign over there. But with Trevor, you had to scramble drill touchdown finding Jacoby in the back of the end zone.
110:46That was an awesome play for Trevor. Backside dig touchdown, play action, quick touchdown, where if you look at the end zone
110:52camera from the broadcast, there was like four or five Browns defenders hands putting up and Trevor put it right on the money.
110:59It was a little bit of a rotation across the board here.
111:02BTJ leaves early, then comes back in. He had a catch over the middle.
111:07He had a toe tap catch, but largely wasn't that heard from.
111:10It was Parker Washington to me as like clearly the top target diving touchdown on the crossing route, where if you watch that play, he's in the slot.
111:18He gets man coverage. I mean, just absolutely dusts him like right away.
111:22He has a one handed catch like near the sideline later on.
111:26Like it seemed like just one of those players where you can tell who the first read is like on a deeper route.
111:33And that seemed to be Parker Washington in this one.
111:35Jacoby Myers was the recipient of that scramble drill touchdown later on.
111:39Cole Strange dig route touchdown in the red area.
111:42So Trevor Lawrence did not miss the entire game.
111:44One sack, four touchdowns and only five incompletions. There's like everything was working there.
111:48Only like one of them was like truly startable.
111:51And that was Parker Washington, five for 83 in a tud.
111:54I'll ask about Basial Tootin versus Chris Rodriguez. Now, this wasn't a four quarter outlay.
111:59That was not necessary. But the box score says 15 carries, 66 yards for Basial Tootin, along with one catch for 22
112:05compared to Chris Rodriguez, six for 23. This was one of those games that you would hope for a short yardage touchdown
112:12for Chris Rodriguez when he scored 34 points. But it didn't happen.
112:15Did not happen. Tootin started this game. He obviously got the most carries by by quite a lot here.
112:21Chris Rodriguez was out there for that play action goal line touchdown that I was talking about.
112:26That was to Josh Cameron, by the way. That was the second touchdown of the game.
112:31That was not garbage time. Like Josh Cameron was out there for a little bit.
112:35Travis Hunter was not. But Chris Rodriguez, I wouldn't say that he's like for sure going to get all the short yardage
112:42work because Tootin got a little bit kind of between the 20s, like on a third and one situation.
112:47But Chris Rodriguez was out there for that goal line snap.
112:51He's purely touchdown or bust. Unfortunately, Amir Abdullah was actually playing in kind of like a LaQuint Allen type of role.
112:57It's going to be a rotation. I can't say that Tootin or Chris Rodriguez looked way better than one another.
113:03Tootin looked a little bit more explosive. Liam Cohen had some nice things to say about Basial Tootin.
113:08I do still worry that this could be a little bit kind of trap backy if Chris Rodriguez is going to get the goal line stuff.
113:16And for Basial Tootin, he had a screen reception for 22 yards.
113:19Yeah, that was his only target of the game.
113:22There's just like no reason to throw the ball to the running backs if you're going to get Trevor Lawrence to park
113:28Washington, BTJ, Jacoby, you name it, down the football field.
113:31So I just wonder if like that Liam Cohen-Bucks offense that was so, it was just kind of rotating around the running back group.
113:38I just don't think that this offense is going to be like that one at all.
113:43Harmon, any questions? How long would you say that Jacoby Myers was wide open before he finally got the ball thrown his way on that touchdown?
113:51There was, they showed a different angle and there was a Browns defender that was originally guarding him who was just like
113:57laying down on the ground for a little bit.
114:00But credit to Trevor for eventually finding him. That was a robe and good to like see Trevor like throw the ball accurate.
114:07Like sometimes like he throws the ball accurately and then other times like he's way off.
114:12This is one of those games where like everything was like right on the money.
114:16So shout out to him. Yeah, this is one of those kind of two game samples I want to package together.
114:22They get the Browns in week one and then they're on the road in Denver for week two.
114:28The Jaguars are. And so we're going to kind of learn some lessons from that department.
114:32BTJ left for a portion of this game, Hayden?
114:35Yeah, as we have all talked about Travis Hunter kind of seemed like the de facto X wide receiver for BTJ.
114:41But did that kind of turn into Josh Cameron here?
114:44Yeah, so Josh Cameron was a standout in camp and like Shipley by the end of camp was saying Cameron's going to play more offense than Travis Hunter.
114:52And that's exactly what happened here. Now Travis Hunter came in there for his four snaps on offense.
114:58I think he got a carry and then I think maybe like another screen or something.
115:02He basically was in there as like a like, you know, Kadarius Tony type of player out there.
115:08But that was that was that was like when like Brian Thomas was silent.
115:12I think I think it was a kind of like that.
115:15So he's a very good corner. We'll leave it at that.
115:18OK, Ray, any closing questions before we get out of here?
115:22I just it feels like and Hayden, I didn't watch this this game in entirety, but it felt like there's probably some
115:28more upside in this pass catching room. Trevor Lawrence only threw the ball, what, 23 times?
115:33I just I feel like there could be some more inside this Jags receiving room.
115:37I would hope that they consolidate the looks a little bit more.
115:41Just every like one target here, two targets there.
115:44Like, let's condense that up. Get Parker Washington the ball some more.
115:47And I thought BTJ looked well before he got before he got injured.
115:51I thought he played well and looked good. Yeah, he came back to the game.
115:55I have no negative notes to say about Brian Thomas in this game.
115:59Parker Washington 18 of 25 routes on the drawbacks out there.
116:02So not a full time player. But I will say he just to me does look like the most like well-rounded wide
116:09receiver, like the most involved out there. And when they are going to be in closer games, like they will drop back a whole lot more.
116:17And I think that this is going to be maybe more of a pass first offense than they have been before.
116:23I mean, if you listen to Liam Cohen, like before the season, talk about the running backs is like, you know, we're trying to get by here.
116:31I would not be surprised. Four, six. Yes. Four, six, eight, like four, six, eight.
116:35That's pretty much what happened today. And then it was just like 25, 30, 32 to the best players would just happen
116:42to be all of the pass catchers. All right.
116:44That does it. 12 games in the books, 12 game covered by the four of us.
116:49If you're looking for like both the Wednesday and Thursday recaps, guess what?
116:53Hayden and Matt already did that for you. They're on the forecast channel.
116:57They're also co-posted here on this channel. And we'll talk about those games along with Sunday night football and Monday night football on stats versus film.
117:05Every single Tuesday, Ray, Matt and Hayden. Well done.
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