0:00Today is only about Rookies because whenever we look back at the end of the season, the championship winning teams, they got tremendous value on first year players.
0:08We're going to talk about 32 of them. Yes, what to expect week one early in the season and then late season
0:14expectations because we are here to help you find the gems, the first year players that will maybe not start your lineup,
0:20but then carry it later in this fantasy football season.
0:23And tune in and stay tuned to this episode of Yahoo Fantasy Football with Josh and Hayden.
0:28We love to point out how rookies shape fantasy football at the end of each season.
0:33So today we talk about every single rookie. Yeah, I have 32 names of rookies heading into their first season.
0:38We're going to talk about where they stand currently on the depth chart, maybe some projected stats for every single one.
0:44And Hayden, maybe most importantly, when we think they're actually going to take off in their lineups this season.
0:50And sometimes those players don't ever take off. I think we'll have to have some of those takes as well.
0:55Yeah, 32. This is going to be a test of I can remember the 32nd player and what team he's even on.
1:01That's a pretty deep list. So I was looking at, again, all rookies when researching for the show.
1:07And it really stood out to me that only 11 rookies are consistently being drafted inside of the top 15 rounds on
1:13Yahoo right now, including just four, four before the start of the 10th round.
1:17This is just anecdotal Hayden, but that has to be a record low number.
1:21Well, we knew this like going in, just talking about these guys as draft prospects, like this was not going to be a great class.
1:28I will say this. I think that in redraft is like the best time to get some rookies late on because like
1:34they're not in your starting lineup where like best well theoretically they can be like we're not banking on rookies until later on.
1:41And because the ADPs are suppressed, there are going to be some rookies this year that kind of pop up.
1:46And I think that the wide receiver class that was almost underrated.
1:50And like that's kind of the tier of player that we're gonna talk about today.
1:54It definitely is. Now, again, we'll talk about where each of these names are being selected on Yahoo right now, but you
2:00know, Makai Lim would go ahead of the 10th round if he didn't miss all training camp.
2:05You know, Casey Concepcion would probably be going ahead of the 11th round if he wasn't on the Cleveland Browns.
2:11We also had, you know, some of your favorite day three running backs or day two running backs that landed behind obvious
2:17starters and not kind of ambiguous backfields. And Mike Washington and Jonah Coleman and those guys, you know, could have been top 10 round picks.
2:24If they were on like the Tennessee Titans, for example.
2:27Yeah. And maybe the Yahoo ADPs are just wrong and that these guys should be priced way up.
2:32And I have a couple of those takes here.
2:34A hundred percent. Again, if you tuned into our ultimate and final running back in wide receiver rankings, you know, you have
2:41some of our favorites at rookie spots in both.
2:43And some of those are the best value, not just on Yahoo, but in whatever platform that you use.
2:49So go and watch those videos. After this one, we're going to condense it down into one episode.
2:54I'm going to go in ADP order here. And our first rookie actually isn't off the board until the fourth pick of the third round running back 14.
3:02That's Jeremiah Love of the Arizona Cardinals. The latest from NFL Network's Mike Garofalo.
3:06He reports that Jeremiah Love is quote about 50, 50 to play in week one against the Chargers.
3:11Hayden, we know 14 touches in his first preseason action suffered a high ankle sprain at the end of that second quarter.
3:17So what are your expectations for week one? And then what are your expectations beyond for Jeremiah Love?
3:22Yeah. Let's say misses zero to two games. I think that's about right.
3:26I think that the rest of September, there's going to be a ramp up period with him and Tyler Algier.
3:31Keep in mind, Trey Benson was waived. James Connors on injured reserve.
3:35He has not practiced. It's just going to be Algier.
3:38It's going to be Jeremiah Love. We know how this one ends.
3:41Jeremiah Love, I thought as a prospect was even better than Ashton Jeanty.
3:45Like I would put him in the, not that far away from like the B.
3:49John Robinson type of prospect. Uh, it's going to take some overcoming the interior offensive line.
3:53They're missing a second round, uh, guard in Arizona.
3:56The tackle play can be very hit and miss.
3:58So it's not the ideal landing spot. All that said, typically a top three overall pick at running back does not go
4:05in the third and sometimes fourth rounds in fantasy drafts.
4:08So I think that we've like fully baked in the Cardinals part of the, of the equation, the early part of the season equation.
4:14And I would be pretty surprised by, you know, October 1st on if Jeremiah Love is not a top 12.
4:20Fantasy running back. And he's somebody I'm heavily targeting in the top 30, but sometimes you can get him like 32nd, 33rd overall.
4:27I think that's absolutely stealing. So I keep going back to Michael Thor, who's the head coach of this team calling plays
4:33for Brees Hall during his rookie season, who only played seven games during that rookie year.
4:37It was a condensed year because of injury. But even with a slow start of 12, eight and 14 touches in the
4:43opening three games in that seven game span, Brees Hall was the running back seven in points per game, because even with
4:50a slow ramp up period, when Brees was splitting time with Michael Carter, Mike LaFour realized that the hot hand approach would
4:56then go to Brees Hall because he's the best player of the group.
5:00So there was that roar shark test that we got early in the off season where LaFour was saying, well, the hot hand is going to get it.
5:08To me, that is very much a positivity for Jeremiah Love.
5:11And we saw that during, you know, his first preseason action.
5:14Again, I have some concerns about the environment. I would love if Chase Basantes was in here, as you said, he was
5:20looking awesome in the preseason, but it's such a win.
5:23If the Cardinals who are projected for the 32nd, you know, best or worst offense in the NFL instead are like the 22nd or 24th.
5:30Like if they can escape that bottom three scoring point, then again, that would be massive for not just Jeremiah Love, but all skill players on that team.
5:38Yeah, we just saw with the Raiders situation, uh, Gentie was like the RB 16, uh, on points per game base.
5:44That was like one of the worst offenses I've ever seen.
5:47So hopefully the Cardinals can at least clear that threshold.
5:50And that's where we're kind of drafting Jeremiah Love to be a slightly better than the Ash and Gentie season from a year ago.
5:57Um, and we're talking about a 99th percentile prospect, according to my model, everybody's model would agree with that.
6:02So, uh, he's somebody that I'm buying the dip on and I feel very good about that.
6:07I think he's going to ride the hot hand.
6:09It's going to be Jeremiah Love, not Tyler Algier.
6:12Again, I'm just looking at that Brees rookie season.
6:14That first finish was running back 40. Then he went running back 12, 19, 16, 4, 7, and 21.
6:20We just did a live draft with, you know, 10 other experts over on Yahoo.
6:24And you took Jeremiah Love as what you're running back to or running back one.
6:28Which one was it running back to? Yep. Yep.
6:31It went Devon H in the second round and then, um, Jeremiah Love in the third, late third, which I think is awesome.
6:37Yes. Uh, I don't know if you brought this up already, but Yahoo has projections from a whole bunch of different sites that they compile into one.
6:45205 rushing attempts, 868 yards, six rushing scores. And then on top of that, 52 receptions, 457 receiving yards, and then almost two and a half touchdowns.
6:53So Hayden, if I can do some quick math that would put him, uh, at 1300 yards and almost nine total touchdowns here.
6:59Yeah. The reception stand out there. It's the six most receptions at running back position.
7:03It's the fourth most receiving yards, uh, at the position.
7:06Like I think that can make sense of this team's trailing in fourth quarters.
7:10Like you're not going to have Tyler Algier out there.
7:13He's going to catch a bunch of passes. Like a, a very light version of like the Bichon seasons from the last
7:19couple of seasons is what I'm projecting for Jeremiah Love.
7:22Like that's a pretty good value. Final note on this that showed out in only the two quarters that he played in the preseason on angle routes.
7:30Like so often these running back receptions actually have a negative eight dots attached to them because they're just swing passes at the end of a progression.
7:37If you're getting angle routes and these were almost designed downfield receptions because they were getting three vertical routes, pushing off coverage
7:44and leaving Jeremiah Love versus that, you know, a fill safety or a linebacker.
7:48And then again, it's catching that four yards or six yards on the field versus two yards in the backfield.
7:53Like that's just fantastic stuff. We want to see that all the time from our backs.
7:58Okay. Jadarian Price, the next rookie, although down the sixth round, the second pick of the sixth round running back 25 ESPN's
8:04Brady Henderson, who nailed this backfield last year. I believe that the Seahawks will quote roll with Jadarian Price as their lead
8:10back while mixing in a heavy dose of George Harlani.
8:13And then whatever plan has Seattle going into week one will start to change once Zach Charbonnet returns.
8:18We know Charbonnet is going to miss at least the opening four weeks of the season.
8:23And my eyes go to the Seahawks schedule, especially weeks two and weeks three, I believe against the Cardinals and the commanders
8:29as potential like blow up spots here for Jadarian Price.
8:32Yeah, I think it's going to be a long ramp up period for Zach Charbonnet.
8:36His ACL surgery did not happen until February 20th.
8:39You do exactly nine months from that. That's week 11, week 12.
8:42He in theory can beat that timeline, but I think that would be just to like get him involved in the lineup.
8:48And I think it's just to be him and Holani for the most part.
8:52Jadarian Price is going to be the early down guy.
8:55And then Holani is going to play in there for pass protection.
8:58But unlike what Kenneth Walker was dealing with, where Charbonnet was the goal line back, in addition to playing passing situations, I
9:05just think that Jadarian Price is going to have the goal line role.
9:08So I think versus last year, it's a better situation for Jadarian Price than it was for Kenneth Walker.
9:14I've been warming up to him. There's kind of like a, it's not my favorite running backs in like kind of the fifth, sixth round range.
9:21I do think that Jadarian Price would be at over the very top of that list.
9:26I thought he was a fine prospect. He, he had some nice advanced metrics to know when a lot of areas too.
9:32Yeah. It's like one of those where he didn't have to pass protect.
9:35He didn't have to catch passes. I'm not saying that he can't do either, but like, I can't say for sure that he's good at it.
9:43I thought that he ran with a decent burst and like, I think good pacing, good vision, all that type of stuff.
9:49And then at the same time, I was also surprised that he was only 203 pounds at the combine.
9:54And it's not like some like super explosive, like testing back.
9:58So he's like somebody where you watch them, you're like, I totally get it.
10:02But I would not say that this is your typical first round draft pick profile.
10:06Like to me, Kenneth Walker coming out, Bruce Hall coming out.
10:09They went later in the draft. Those guys were better prospects than Jadarian Price.
10:13But this is a mystery box player. Maybe he is Bijan Robinson.
10:16He just happened to be next to that, which Jeremiah loves.
10:19A lot to hit on there. You mentioned week 11 as like exactly the timeline for Zach Charbonnet based on what typical
10:26is of his injury that he's coming back from, which is significant.
10:29They actually have a week 11 by now. That's one facet of this.
10:33The other facet is all summer long, you know, observers of the Seahawks have been incredibly optimistic about Zach Charbonnet returning.
10:39There were some mentions of week one. We know that that now is false.
10:43So I have no idea where to land on any of this stuff.
10:46However, I am willing and not to be negative here to bet against a quick recovery, getting him back to exactly the
10:53form that he was on to the point that the coaching staff that wants to win games wants to give him 65% of the red zone carries.
11:00And that led to what 11 touchdowns that he got last year instead of can walk to the third.
11:06So I'm just kind of betting against a player that is coming back from major injury and giving more towards Jerry and
11:12price who his teammates can't stop talking about it.
11:14Like Jackson Smith and Jigba quote, we rely on the run game a lot.
11:18So he, Jerry and price is going to be incredible.
11:21I'm looking forward to it. He's going to be a big piece of this offense, especially early.
11:26Sam Darwin has talked about him in every single, you know, preseason game on the sideline talking about his pass catching too.
11:32Which to me is a huge part of this Hayden.
11:35Yep. He only had like 15 or 19 receptions in college.
11:38And yet every time we turn on hard knocks, every interview you hear from John Schneider or Sam Darwin or whoever is,
11:44he's going to be such a weapon for us in the passing game too.
11:48And then that's the underlying buzz of them getting more pass catchers into routes, including the running backs because they were near dead last on the list.
11:56So he's one of my 14 players I'm betting my season on and I'm excited to see what your Darren prices this year.
12:02Yeah, I think somewhere late in round five, I think that's a perfectly reasonable spot.
12:07That's where he's going on. Yachty was 62nd overall right now.
12:10I got him ranked or our combined rankings is 56 overall.
12:13Actually, both of us rank him exactly there in half PPR.
12:16So I think totally fine player. I'm not sure if he's going to be an absolute home run pick, but he at
12:22least has the chance to do it. He does have a chance to do it.
12:27He's being drafted behind players who also have kind of a similar outcome here of a split backfield or a chance to win out.
12:33And he's been at the end of that list for the entire offseason.
12:37And so he's on a better team than a lot of those guys too.
12:41Just quickly, the Yahoo projections on him for the season.
12:44214 attempts, 914 rushing yards and 7.6 touchdowns. And the reception totals are quite low here.
12:4824 receptions, 222 yards and a half a touchdown.
12:51So again, while Helani will probably fill in in terms of true passing down work early on.
12:56Again, I continue to say that I think like the true third down passing situation role is like the least valuable one when we talk about halfway PPR.
13:04Yep, I agree with that. I think it's probably going to be closer to like 30, 35 receptions, which is already projecting
13:10for a lot more than he caught in college.
13:12But I do think is like reasonable. If your first round running back can't catch the football, then like maybe he shouldn't have been a first round pick.
13:20Third rookie, Cardinal Tate. He's the fifth pick of the seventh round right now going as wide receiver 32.
13:26Unfortunately, he did not practice on Tuesday. He's working through quote some stiffness.
13:29He did not catch a single pass during preseason activities.
13:32I guess my easy question to you is how confident are you that he finishes above Marvin Harrison's junior wide receiver 40 points per game during his season?
13:40That sounds about right. I liked Cardinal Tate. I would say I even like loved him.
13:45He was comped like DeAndre Hopkins, Calvin Ridley, Jeremy Macklin.
13:48The hard part about this situation is as a rookie.
13:50First of all, he's only just barely above 21 years old.
13:53He's an early declare. Like there is some like development that's needed in his game.
13:58And he's not used in the manufactured touch department.
14:00Even looking at my notes pre draft, I didn't know the role.
14:04Uh, I said there's some underneath work, but he's not a tackle breaker breaker or particularly shifty and tight spaces.
14:09His consistent hands allow him to catch the ball in stride on crossing routes.
14:13Possibly gets a tad faster, but he's not a lightning quick player.
14:17And then even in the preseason, you did see on that crossing route where he didn't create that much separation.
14:22Now, uh, I think if he does fail this price tag, I think it's largely going to be based off the Tennessee Titans offense.
14:29And unfortunately, I think that's just kind of where this one's going to me, where Cam Ward has a lot to prove.
14:35Brian Dave has a lot to prove the offensive line has a lot to prove.
14:40And then it seems like Wanda Robinson's going to get like all the RPO bubble screens and little quick hitting stuff.
14:46So we'll see. I think that he's better in half PPR, um, among the wide receivers.
14:50I don't think he's going to catch that many passes this season.
14:54Yeah, I think you nailed all of that in a composed, good proven offense.
14:57I would be drafting Colonel Tate so much higher than this.
15:01And yet it just has been a month of sourness whenever you read or hear or even watch the preseason work from the Tennessee Titans.
15:08And that's a bummer. You know, it kind of feels like it.
15:11And the season is very long, but the first half of the season could be like a PPR scam season for Wanda Robinson.
15:18And with Colonel Tate and where he's lining up as a true outside player, that's just, you know, further to get the football.
15:24Yep. It really is that simple. Um, they have a week nine by maybe good things can happen in the week nine
15:30by and we get to week 10 through week 17 for your fancy season.
15:34And that's really where he pays off. But I truly believe that wide receiver 32 is just about right for him, especially
15:41when like you consider some of the other wide receivers going around him are the Marvin Harrison Jr.
15:46Brian Thomas Jr. But like, again, two names before that for us is Parker Washington.
15:50And there's just no chance of him ever eclipsing that for me and my rankings.
15:54He's in that like after the huge tear break and like, you know, it's like Devante Adams, Mike Evans, those types.
16:00And then you kind of get into this like completely.
16:03I wouldn't even say the tear break is Parker Washington.
16:06And then if you want to say Marv and Brian Thomas Jr.
16:09And then after that, it's DK Metcalf and Carnell Tate and Alec Pierce and Chris Godwin and Jordan Tyson.
16:15Like it either finds himself in that Marvin BTJ group or it's the one after.
16:19And the one after is when, trust me, that's where I got to in my, uh, expert league.
16:24It's not where you want to be with your wide receiver two and wide receiver three.
16:28No. Yeah. I got Mike Evans in like the sixth round.
16:32Like I didn't feel comfortable with that, but like after him, it was getting worse than that.
16:36A couple, a couple of comps real quick, uh, rookie seasons.
16:39Tedro McMillan was the wide receiver 24 per game.
16:42Uh, I liked Tedro a little bit more into the offensive environment over there was a little bit better than this one.
16:48A lobby was a wide receiver 24 Garrett Wilson was a wide receiver 30 Drake London, which is, I think this is pretty close wide receiver 41.
16:56That's pretty close with the Marvin Harrison season that we had.
16:59And then Roma Doomsday was the wide receiver 61.
17:02So like those are like similar players in terms of just like skill sets and draft capital.
17:06And those weren't like the best teams either. Um, so wide receiver thirties is probably about average.
17:11I just don't think this is going to be like, Oh, you were fading Carnell Tate and now he's finished as like the wide receiver 12 this year.
17:19Like I just don't see that happen. The Titans would have to shock everyone for that to happen.
17:24They would have to be bad in the off season and then great once a regular season hits.
17:29Uh, I will add his projections right now on Yahoo 116 targets nearly like a 50% catch rate at 63 receptions, 791 yards and 4.7 touchdowns.
17:37It's interesting. You brought up T Mac because his rookie season last year was nearly the same at 122 targets, 70 receptions.
17:43Yep. But that went for over 1000 yards and seven touchdowns.
17:46So they're basically having Carnell Tate's yards per target.
17:49No, sorry. Yards per reception at 12 and a half.
17:51And Taylor Williams was 14 and a half, which, you know, I think if Tate's going to catch passes, they're going to be down the field.
17:59I, when I thought the reception number was right, I would put them a little bit higher on higher yards, but like five touchdowns.
18:06Like if he scores more than five touchdowns this year, I would say that's a win.
18:10I think those projections felt about right, which is, you know, you're not getting your money in grade at wider C for 32 and stuff.
18:17Like to me, I would rather just give me fricking Jalen hurts.
18:21And then I'll find the next wider C even by the way, the next couple of rookies, uh, I have even ranked ahead of Carnell Tate.
18:28Okay. I think I misspoken. He's a week nine by maybe I said that correctly.
18:32Next is Jordan Tyson, a full round later. Plus the 12th pick of the eighth round wide receiver 37.
18:38Again, if he didn't suffer the hamstring injury that was reported as not linked to all the other hamstrings that he has
18:44injured in the past, uh, he would be going earlier than this.
18:47Again, that's wider C for 37 right now. He's on injured reserve.
18:51He's out at least four games. You and I are expecting at least six.
18:55Um, we have seen that his draft process and the first part of his off season was slow played coming back from a hamstring.
19:01So I highly doubt that as soon as he's ready to gear up for a game, they give him 80 plus percent of the work.
19:08So what do you expect? Yeah. Also week six, they play on MetLife turf, which I would not throw him out there personally.
19:15And then they go to France for week seven, week eight by.
19:18So I think the most likely scenario would be week nine.
19:21Maybe he gets out there and they ramp them up during that stretch there.
19:25But I would say week nines, the targets at home against the Browns.
19:29So, uh, you're going to have to deal with that.
19:32Uh, if you have an IR spot, it makes it a little bit easier, um, to stomach.
19:37Like he does not get drafted typically like as high as this, this ADP, like whenever I'm in drafts, it's like closer to like one twenties.
19:44And I think that's actually a good spot for him because a lot of the receivers around that range just do not have the upside that he has.
19:52I think that he would have been comfortably ahead of Cardinal Tate.
19:55If not for the injuries. Now, I think that there's reasons why he's had these injuries, uh, for a long time.
20:01I think it's gonna take a while for him to, to get over them.
20:05So I think a very risky pick, if you go to like the one twenties and stuff and like, you're looking at
20:12guys that just have like no chance of upside, uh, then I would still go with, with Jordan Tyson.
20:17Nick Underhill does fantastic work. Um, he's one of the beat writers that you should trust his eyes in a lot of ways.
20:23And he just kept speaking glowingly about Jordan Tyson, every single practice.
20:27One was quote, it would be hard to overstate how good Tyson was in camp.
20:31Uh, so we'll see, I think this is a good bench dash.
20:35If you have an IR spot on your team that you can get him in round eight and, or even round nine,
20:41if he slips to you and just see what happens.
20:44But, uh, it's almost one of these Hayden that we just get to revisit this entire conversation, uh, in week eight and,
20:50and, you know, reassess where we're at once the saints have, you know, seven games from their ball.
20:55My, my final note on Jordan Tyson was just a pre draft note is everyone like, except me kind of like loved Jordan Tyson.
21:02I kind of more liked him. And I think that like, there's still some development that's needed in his game.
21:07Like he was pretty unproven, like working over the middle.
21:10I didn't think that he was that fast when he was like opening up and like working down the football field after the catch too.
21:17Yeah. Rough after the catch. So like Stevie Johnson was somebody that won the line of scrimmage and like was really fancy
21:24at this, uh, Deontay Johnson was someone similar. Like I think athletically and kind of the same role.
21:29Um, so like other people thought he was like a layup line to be like an approble type of receiver.
21:34I was always kind of under the impression that like he could reach that, but he easily could not.
21:40I thought he was a little bit more boom bust than other people thought.
21:44Yeah. And again, Jawan Johnson is a perfect, not even late round tight end anymore, but a tight end pick, uh, later
21:50in your drafts to fill in for the Jordan Tyson week one through seven.
21:54Next is the Sean stripling, my guy and only my guy.
21:57Uh, the first pick of the 10th round wide receiver 43 right now.
22:01Again, I have him much closer to the wide receiver 35 overall.
22:04The athletics Matt Barrows believes that stripling is quote going to have a major role in week one against the Rams.
22:10Um, Hayden, I view him as a flex immediately with wide receiver three in his view.
22:14If he plays, you know, the majority of two wide receiver sets starting in week one, if we see that in week
22:21one and week two and all that type of stuff, then I feel comfortable in my starting lineups.
22:26Yep. Mike Evans has been dealing with every piece of injury that you can possibly dream up.
22:31Did return to practice today. Did yes. For now, he comes back for a practice and misses the next ones.
22:36So stripling has so many outs here. If George Kittle has a setback, it sounds like Kittle is going to try to play in week one.
22:44Now, Mike Evans, any of these guys get setbacks and he's going to be into the lineup here.
22:49I think that he should overtake Debo Samuel. He will eventually, I'm not sure if that's going to happen in week one.
22:55They're kind of like trying out just on stripling as the inside outside player.
22:59Uh, Debo Samuel obviously knows the playbook on type of stuff.
23:02That said, I, that stripling was an underrated player.
23:05Uh, he's a great athlete for three, six 40.
23:07If you guys watch him against Georgia, he had a 75 yarder against them.
23:11Uh, he had seven catches for 122 yards against Georgia.
23:14So like this is, uh, somebody that was not loved by the spreadsheets, but has the size has the athleticism has like the intangibles.
23:21That's something that everybody, uh, that I listened to from Trent Williams on the sideline to the beat reporters, to Dean Brugler,
23:27uh, everyone was saying that this guy has the great makeup and that he's going to be a trusted player.
23:33So I think it's Jawan Jennings with more burst, or if he kind of gets past that, then he can do some
23:39level of like a Brandon Nyuk impression here. So I think a very intriguing pick somewhere just inside the top 100.
23:45I'm quickly Googling some Jawan Jennings seasons here with the San Francisco 49ers.
23:49Like his age 27 season here in 2024, where he had 113 targets, 77 receptions, 975 yards and six touchdowns.
23:54I'll take it. I think that's possible. I really do think that is possible.
23:58I think this is going to be the classic case where I think that the October, November, December stretch, like could look
24:04a lot better than the September stretch. Um, and we'll see if these guys stay healthy.
24:09Like Mike Evans, George, like at any second, if we saw the report set back out for four weeks, nobody would be surprised.
24:15Yeah. Again, I am drafting him aggressively because this is a top 10 offense perennially every single year.
24:21It's a top 10 offense. Uh, and this is someone that from the first day of camp, we've gotten positive buzz on
24:27then every single preseason snap or game that he played, whether it be with Matt Jones or back with Brock Purdy, like
24:33we have gotten positive plays from him. And that was inside.
24:36That was outside. That was winning over the middle.
24:39That was going up and get it contested. Uh, that was manufactured stuff on top of it.
24:43And if you caught that one pass and the double move down the field, like we might not be able to get
24:50him right now in the ninth round or wherever it might be an eighth or seventh round pick on top of this.
24:56So again, I am incredibly aggressive in selecting stripling as my wide receiver three.
25:00If I have to right now playing him in the flex in that first week.
25:04And then I think we can only go up from there.
25:07Uh, I think there are decent odds. He leads all rookies in receiving the season.
25:12I think it's possible. I hope so. Yep. Uh, the projections don't say the same.
25:16The projections have him at 63 targets, 42 receptions, 506 yards, and just three scores.
25:20I'll take the higher, the over on every single one of those.
25:23Yeah. Okay. Makai Lemon, the seventh pick of the 10th round.
25:27Widers here at 45 right now on Yahoo. By the way, if you want our rankings ahead of any drafts that you
25:33do have this week, uh, they're free in the description down below half and full PPR.
25:37But if you want to take it to the next level, going over to the ultra playbook on Yahoo plus, I mean,
25:44it's 150 page dadgum almanac with everything that you need.
25:46Everything. Hayden's writing a lot in it. I'm running a little bit in it.
25:50Uh, and so are all of the other writers here on Yahoo.
25:54So if you really want to go deep, if you want to be a true sicko, that is the ultimate playbook.
26:00All right. Back to Makai Lemon. He has been back for the end of the preseason.
26:04He played in that final game called three of five targets, dropped a pass for an interception.
26:09I think those three receptions went for about three yards.
26:12Um, meanwhile, Don Tavion Wicks gotten, uh, some rave reviews in camp.
26:15So it seems like Hayden Lemon is destined for three wide receiver sets early in his career, but the season is very long.
26:22So definitely Don Tavion Wicks, uh, is not, you know, I wouldn't say he's the most consistent player.
26:27So I think at some point in the season, Makai Lemon will be in two wide receiver sets.
26:32And at that point we can treat him as a real fantasy asset, both fantasy wide receivers, um, into our receiver sets where the Eagles have been awesome.
26:40We'll see if Makai Lemon can reach that. It's just gonna be a totally different way that he's going to do it
26:46where it's like, you know, within 15 and 20 yards of the line of scrimmage only.
26:51Uh, I will say that he played at the catch point a lot better than most like slot wide receivers.
26:56Uh, my comps pre-draft went from a Monro St.
26:59Brown, which I don't think he's actually going to get to a Monro St.
27:03Brown down to Khalil Shakir. That's a pretty wide range.
27:06Parker Washington would be like another comp, uh, if you're a true sicko out there, 3.5 yards per zone route after removing
27:12the screens, that's the best in the class by far zero drops all year.
27:16Um, so we'll see. He's not a super explosive player, but he's a pretty dense player.
27:20I thought he was great against zone coverage. Like I just shared there.
27:24So I think that he's, he's a fine pick.
27:27I don't think that you should be drafting him to start up.
27:30Like you were drafting him as a bench stash, but this is like the Eagles offense could easily be a top 10 offense.
27:37He was supposed to go really high in the draft.
27:39He did. Uh, and this is a situation where we've historically got fantasy production for.
27:44He's one of those end of season bloomers this year from, I mean, their buys not till week 10, but I can
27:50see this happening in week eight and beyond. Uh, where, you know, we're early season pilled a little bit and brained with the Don Tavion wick stuff.
27:57I just don't see an envision a game one through 17 Don Tavion wicks is the Eagles wide receiver two all season long.
28:04No chance. There's no chance of that. So look, if the running game gets fixed and so then Sean Manning can pluck
28:10out these multiple throws from Jalen hurts and the passing game is very good.
28:14Then it's not just going to be done. Devante Smith that gets there, right?
28:18It's going to be another pass catcher as we have seen in those seasons when Jalen hurts is on one and they have single coverage on the outside.
28:26Both those guys are top 20 wide receivers. So Makai Lemon is the ideal like wide receiver four pick right now that
28:32as the season goes along, like you need to fill in as your wide receiver or five, one of these washed veterans
28:39behind him and then really just keep Lemon as a stash until he gets up to like the 70, 80% snap share on a weekly basis.
28:46Yeah, I see it the same way. I will say, I think that his upsides kind of capped like unless, you know,
28:52injuries break his way and whatnot because the Eagles run the ball so often inside the 10 yard line.
28:58You have to score your touchdowns as a receiver in this offense from way out.
29:02I'm not sure if like Lemon is like Mr.
29:04Like 30 yard touchdown. So I think that I'm kind of drafting him in the wider super forties.
29:09And I think by the end of the year, like I'll routinely be drafted or ranking as the wide receiver 33.
29:15But it's going to take a little bit of time.
29:18I'm not expecting Makai Lemon to like finish as the wider super 15 this year.
29:22Like if Devontae Smith's out there, like Devontae Smith couldn't do that.
29:26And I know Devontae Smith is really good. So I would just be surprised if Makai Lemon could do that as a
29:32rookie, even the back half of this. The projections here for Lemon, 73 targets, 48 receptions, 626 yards and 3.6 touchdowns.
29:38Next up is Casey Concepcion. I mean, truly our favorite wide receiver prospect of his class.
29:43Six pick of the 11th round still, despite us ranking him much, much, much higher.
29:47Wide receiver 48 on Yahoo at this moment. I mean, I could read the Odyssey here.
29:51How many quotes Todd Munkin has on him? But he's a simple one here.
29:55So he hopes the team is trying to get Casey Concepcion the ball, quote, as often as we can.
30:01Again, we've talked about the easy button constantly that manufacturer touches, easy screens, short receptions, slot and outside work.
30:06Casey Concepcion has shown it all in this offense in the preseason.
30:09If you're watching this video, you watch it for Casey Concepcion.
30:13He is the guy that you guys absolutely have to draft.
30:16Like as simple as that on Yahoo. You have to draft Casey Concepcion.
30:19He was my 14th overall player. He's my wide receiver too.
30:22I even had him ahead of Makai Lemon, Jordan Tyson, Denzel Boston pre-draft and in the same tier as Cardinal Tate.
30:28I just feel way better about the Browns getting Casey Concepcion involved in the offense where he's like catching five ish passes
30:35plus per game than I do with the Titans and Cardinal Tate.
30:38So in full PPR, it's for sure Casey Concepcion over Cardinal Tate for me.
30:42In half PPR, it's pretty close between Makai Lemon, Concepcion and Cardinal Tate.
30:46But Casey Concepcion routinely goes way later than those guys where I think he's the most obvious target as a prospect.
30:52I think you had this comp. Were you the Jalen Waddle comp?
30:55Yeah, that was me. He's Jalen Waddle plus about 13 pounds on his back.
30:59Yeah. I'd Waddle, Diggs, Zay Flowers. Those guys are awesome.
31:02And Munkin just coached Zay Flowers and Hayden. What we loved is the manufactured carry that Casey Concepcion got in the red zone.
31:08He showed something that Zay Flowers kind of hasn't so far, which is true, like one-on-one tackle breaking ability to win through contact.
31:15And that's the difference between an 11-yard carry and a 16-yard touchdown.
31:18It's exactly, again, what Casey showed. And he's given the incredible line of, yeah, I want to be known as the guy that quarters can't tackle.
31:26Yes. I love everything about this. Also, 66% of snaps outside.
31:29He's kind of like a could play outside and two wide receiver sets kick inside the slot, which is like what you, that's like what C.D.
31:36Lamb's role is, for example. It's the best role in fantasy.
31:39He's awesome at it. Also, if you go watch him against LSU, Mansoor Delaney and him, they didn't match up every single time.
31:46Delaney was a top 10 corner to the Chiefs.
31:48He was blowing by Delaney, like just not even close.
31:51And like you saw that also with Brandon Cissi, who also won top 100 as a corner.
31:56He was awesome in the SEC and was really productive as a freshman.
32:00The models love him. The eyes loved him. Everyone loves Casey Concepcion, except ADP, which is to our advantage.
32:05Yeah. And that's because of the Browns. But again, the Browns might have a difficult time getting the football to everyone on the team, except for Casey Concepcion.
32:13Like this is Todd Munkin's guy. He just coached JSA Flowers and is able to manufacture touches and receptions when he needs to.
32:19Let's not overlook one during his time at NC State.
32:22He also was like a legit ball carrier, like between the tackles runs and can hold up and, you know, win with the ball in his hands.
32:30And then two, there was a lot of chatter just from people out there that the guy can't catch.
32:35You know, it's a miss. He drops the high drop rate.
32:38Hey, have you seen like a single highlight or low light this training camp of him not catching the football?
32:44It seems like in every single one in tight coverage and, you know, small windows, he's coming down with the football and making some miraculous catches.
32:51Pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't have to bring that up because that feels so long ago that we were talking about
32:58the drops part, but it was real. So I just want to bring up, and we talked about this both on the
33:04expert draft and especially in our wide receiver rankings, that you and I just basically want to draft these round 10, 11
33:10wide receivers in Stripling, Lemon, Matthew Golden, Casey Concepcion, for you, Xavier Worthy as well, over some of these round nine and
33:16maybe even eight wide receivers in like Michael Wilson and Courtland Sutton and so on and so forth.
33:21So we can just flip some of those because I know I have them ranked in a lot of places too ahead of them.
33:28Yeah. I kind of like doing like my wide receiver three is like just a veteran.
33:33I can plug them in there in week one, like a Steph Diggs type and then hit you guys with like two of these young guys.
33:40I got Matthew Golden plus Casey Concepcion is like perfect to me.
33:44But I would say, hey, don't feel like you need to wait until round 11 to draft Casey.
33:49If you need to do it in round nine, there's again, there's no reason to wait just to try to get an
33:55extra, you know, eight picks on ADP value. I really, you get one of these really good wide receivers that we talked
34:01about slightly ahead of where they're going to lock him in because, you know, maybe your co-manager, your league mate, your friend
34:07also listens to the show and they're trying to do the same exactly.
34:11Problems. We are not who right now, you know?
34:14All right. Next is Mike Washington Jr. Lots of quotes to bring up here.
34:18All right. The fourth pick of the 13th round running back 45 right now on the purple platform from John Spitek, a presser he just gave like yesterday.
34:25He said that head coach Clint Kubiak quote stood on the table for Mike Washington Jr.
34:30on day three, the NFL draft and said he was a perfect scheme fit and is pleased with the progression of the running back quote.
34:37We're all excited about the track. Mike is on.
34:40I think we have an expectation that he's going to help us win football games this year.
34:44What do you say? I believe him. I think he's going to touch the ball for real this year.
34:50I think the Raiders are going to try to run the ball as much as they can and the game scripts aren't
34:56going to say that they can that much. And I don't think that Kubiak is going to care.
35:01Uh, the offensive line did look a little bit better, uh, this preseason, um, getting Colton Miller back, uh, adding Tyler Linderbaum,
35:07all that stuff matters for Mike Washington. He was at Arkansas.
35:10He was like a, not a bell cow, but he was like an extremely explosive and then heavily involved, like change of
35:17pace guy where he averaged like a bunch of yards per carry was running by everybody in the sec and plus caught 28 passes.
35:24I think as similar ish seasons, like a lower level, cause you have Ashton Jeanty, I think it's totally possible.
35:29I would not say that he's going to like be redraft.
35:32Um, like we like startable as Gentry is healthy, but I think that he is going to be involved for the Raiders
35:39because he is a perfect scheme fit. Like I I'm taking what Kubiak was saying, like at face value, like that's what
35:45my eyes tell me, like outside zone, get them on the outside and see what happens.
35:49Uh, Ryan Matthews was a comp Latavius Murray, big basal toot.
35:52And like, those are my three comps for Mike Washington.
35:55I was, I had him as a top 100 player consensus rankings had as a, uh, as a top 100 player.
36:01And he's looked like a top 100 player in the preseason.
36:04So it sounds like Gentry is probably going to play in the first game or so, but Mike Washington is an excellent
36:11handcuff because like that guy's massive and has been dominant in this preseason.
36:14This is going to be linked to Ash and Gentry a lot.
36:18Just a quote, not even a quote from click Kubiak today, but he was asked that he was optimistic on Ash and
36:24Gentry being able to play in week one versus the dolphins, which by the way, is the easiest matchup the Raiders have on paper through week 11.
36:31His answer was yes. And he grinned during it.
36:34Um, my number one statement is that Ash and Gentry is not going to have 85% of the workload like he did last year.
36:41Right? So then what's the scale? Hey, and I really believe it's going to be 65, 35 here between the two.
36:47Whoa. I really do. Um, people, when they were drafting Ash and Gentry, one, two turn, that is not what you're expecting
36:53on a team projected for like the fourth lowest points in the league.
36:57But every time that Mike Washington jr. Touched the football in the preseason, he earned more reps, right?
37:02He earned more work. He, to me has underrated vision between the tackles.
37:05And then he had showed like the duality of tackle breaking, uh, hurtling someone at the second level and their arm tackle, and then running over a safety.
37:13And I would say his tackle breaking was like the worst aspect of his game at Arkansas.
37:18Despite his size, he was more, Hey, get a scene for me and let me just outrun everyone.
37:23He is that level of an athlete. And when Clint Kubiak wants to draft you, the guy that's designing the offense who
37:30just split a backfield, basically 55, 45, the Seahawks.
37:32I'm not going to that point, but I really don't think it's going to be 75, 25 here.
37:37Like Gentry, no matter what, if he plays in week one is not going to get the same amount of touches as
37:43they probably planned a month ago in week one.
37:46And I just firmly believe that when Mike Washington gets his chances, he's going to earn more and more and more work
37:52and have like a legit, maybe two series, one series workload here.
37:56Yeah. That would be one of the biggest fantasy storylines of the season.
37:59If that, if that's what happens here, I can see it as if not what my baseline projection would be this entire
38:06month kind of trended in that direction though. I would go 72 to, you know, 28 would be my, my projected, um, split here.
38:12Um, but if Ash and Gentry went down and the prayer circle didn't work, Mike Washington, I think would have been a six round pick for me.
38:20Like no problem. Four, three, three, uh, speed 40 inch vertical.
38:23He's 223 pounds. He can catch the ball. Uh, and the guys behind him, it's like Dylan Lobby and the boys.
38:29Um, and there's not, there's not a free agent running back, you know, like there's, there's not, no one's coming in like James Conner off injury.
38:36Like all that stuff is not going to happen.
38:39It's Mike Washington. I do think that could be a drafted him for a reason.
38:43They did not have to draft the running back.
38:46I thought it was like such a good value in the fourth round for them.
38:50It was such a good fit. Um, I think like he's actually a better theoretical fit for Kubiak versus like what Gentry does as a player.
38:57Um, so yeah, it'll be interesting to watch. I mean, if like the Houston Texans drafted Mike Washington, you guys wouldn't hear me shut up.
39:04So if you think I'm saying a lot about how he's going to cut into this Raiders, if he was in, you
39:11know, another backfield, uh, I would be drafting him in every single turn.
39:14It's just with this one, he's not going to have a lot of value for you as long as Ashton Jinty is on the field.
39:21It's that simple as much as I like him.
39:24Uh, it's just, it's different when you have a, you know, 6535 split.
39:28If you're the LA Rams and you're number one in scoring versus a bottom five offense and you're 6535 here.
39:33Yeah. I do him like Tink Bigsby and Seth.
39:36It's like whoever starter goes down is the one that you needed to draft, but he's like firmly in that tier of like really high ends insurance place.
39:44Caleb Douglas is the next rookie off the board on Yahoo.
39:47The fourth pick of the 14th round wide receiver 58, his head coach, Jeff Halfley on Caleb Douglas quote, taller guy who
39:53was strong at the reception point, but he's got the feel and feet like a small guy so he can get in and out of his breaks.
40:01He's a hard player to jam at the line of scrimmage as a defensive back guy.
40:05He's big, but he plays like a small guy.
40:08Those guys give you problems. They have a week six by Hayden.
40:11That might be a good time for, you know, the league to slow down here on Caleb Douglas, but we look at wide receiver rooms across the league.
40:19The dolphins are probably at the bottom of the list.
40:22And while Caleb Douglas isn't a refront for find player right now, uh, he's going to get a ton of opportunity to
40:28iron that out, actually playing football and on the field.
40:31Yeah. 75th overall pick. He was one of like the surprise players to go in the third round there.
40:36Um, Caleb Douglas, like a, to me, like an intermediate downfield threat more than someone that's going to be, uh, underneath.
40:42If you watch the preseason games, uh, he had like one of the craziest catches up the seam.
40:48He also caught a ball that he should have been inbounds and he caught the ball out of bounds, like did not know where he was.
40:55So I think that there's a little bit of like give and take with this type of player here.
41:00The good news is most rookies, they have to wait until the bi-week to be inserted into the offense, uh, of starting lineup.
41:07He's going to be a two wide receiver set player in week one.
41:10I think it's gonna be Malik Washington and Caleb Douglas in two wide receiver sets.
41:15And then Chris Bell is going to ramp up.
41:17I would rather take Chris Bell than Caleb Douglas in, in redraft, because I think by the end of the season, I
41:23just thought Chris Bell was a much better player than Caleb Douglas.
41:27And I don't think that we're going to be starting any Miami dolphins wide receiver until that the bi-weeks until someone comes to shows himself.
41:34Like, I think it's kind of like a weird needle for Caleb Douglas to thread and redraft where at that point we'll
41:40talk about Chris Bell in a second. I would rather just go with the player who I thought was a lot better and more explosive.
41:47Yeah. There's a lot to say about Chris Bell in a moment.
41:51Um, actually I'll just bring him up now. I mean, he's the 11th wide receiver off the board.
41:56He's going around later in the 15th round. Uh, Chris Bell returned from injury earlier than the dolphins originally planned for this is from GM, John Eric Sullivan.
42:04Chris has worked his behind off to get himself ready.
42:07Our expectation was probably getting him back after the buy, which by the way, that was a week six by so not
42:13until week seven, that was our expectation. It's a testament to the kid.
42:16And it also is a testament to the people that work with him every day.
42:21But yeah, we're excited about Chris. He's put forth the effort to get himself ready to go much earlier than we expected and we'll get him going.
42:28He is a dense, fast guy, right? That's kind of his like route.
42:32He's kind of linear in it in a way.
42:35Uh, and so the slants, these crossing routes, all of that, get the ball in his hands.
42:39We saw against bad competition and good competition like Miami.
42:42He was able to catch it and run away from everyone.
42:45So it's absolutely incredible to me that Chris Bell was able to play actual preseason snaps.
42:50I mean, insane stuff and hate it in a way.
42:53It's a cool pairing that these guys have where Caleb Douglas is almost as tall, lanky, long strider.
42:58And Chris Bell, again, is this more compact yet stout, big power player on top.
43:02My comps pre-draft Debo Samuel, DJ Moore, and then Traylon Burks.
43:05Um, so I was a very wide range of outcomes on this type of player.
43:09Yeah. I had him as my like 35th overall player.
43:12Um, and then he goes, uh, what 94th or so overall, uh, because of the ACL injury.
43:17But I think what's going to happen is, uh, the first five games of the season, part-time player, get him some touches,
43:23see where he's at, make sure you can get tackled, feel comfortable.
43:27And then after the, the bi-week, the schedule actually really opens up.
43:30There's some really terrible defenses, even like for the fantasy playoffs where like if he was as good as I thought, and there's no competition for snaps.
43:38Like there is this like pathway that Chris Bell can hit on.
43:41He was not everybody's favorite prospect. He was very, very much a boom bust type of player.
43:46There's just only so many wide receivers in the NFL at that size that can run like he did.
43:51Uh, the Miami game was one of the best performances I've seen of any prospect.
43:56This last draft was Chris Bell against Miami. I think someone like Caleb Douglas on another team with a different depth chart
44:02at wide receiver probably wouldn't get a lot of snaps until about week seven, but it's, um, it's awesome.
44:07That he gets to, again, make plays and make mistakes and learn on the fly.
44:11And hopefully they just allow him to kind of play through all of that.
44:15They kind of have to based on their wide receiver room.
44:19And we even saw in that first precinct game where he made the sideline grab that didn't get, didn't get two feet in bounds.
44:25And then there was a slot fade where he goes up and like one hands it.
44:30We're going to get this high variance nature to it as well.
44:33And Hey, I kind of wonder if he's going to be one of these players who has like pops off for, you
44:39know, 90 yards and a touchdown and is headlining the waiver show that we have with Joel.
44:44Uh, and then in the next week follows it up with like two catches for 26 yards.
44:49Yeah. I mean, that's, that's definitely going to happen.
44:52I think between the two, do you agree? Chris Bell is like the one that if you're going to stream together multiple
44:58weeks in a row where we finally feel confident to start him in redraft, I think that Chris Bell has the profile
45:04to hit that more so than they drafted Caleb Douglas ahead of Chris Bell.
45:08Uh, definitely so. Um, but I think that was with the ACL concerns and like if I now we're, we've removed largely
45:14most of the ACL concerns and like straight up, like let's say they're drafted back to back.
45:19Like I would rather have Chris Bell's profile. So Caleb Douglas, his projections are 60 targets, 40 receptions, 480 yards and three scores.
45:26And then I'll quickly get Chris Bell's here. Um, if they even exist, I'm sure they do.
45:30Uh, they are 47 targets, 33 receptions, 386 yards and two scores.
45:34What I like about Bobby Sloick and this passing attack, he's going to have, you know, extra tight ends, a fullback and
45:40give extra protection to Malik Willis who we saw in the preseason and we saw last year with the Packers.
45:46He's like an actual pocket passer. And then he scrambles.
45:49Like, I think people don't give him enough credit for doing that.
45:52And then we're going to get some big downfield crossing routes, either downfield vertical routes or kind of like the scissors action down the field.
45:59Uh, and then they tear up like single high and zone coverage and all that type of stuff.
46:04When the dolphins have a passing attack that's cooking, it's going to be big, explosive plays down the field.
46:10Yep. There's gonna be no reliability here, but I think we'll have a couple, we will have a couple of plays like Malik Willis to Chris Bell.
46:17You're like, wow, that is like athleticism at the highest degree in the NFL right there.
46:22Both of these guys will probably wind up on the waiver wire video three times this year.
46:27Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Sandwich in between is Jonah Coleman of the Denver Broncos.
46:30The second pick of the 15th round on Yahoo running back 54.
46:34ESPN's Jeff Legwald believes that Coleman quote, will get plenty of work this season.
46:38He's squarely in the backfield rotation for the Broncos.
46:40So, Hey, we basically have to decide if J K Dobbins, RJ Harvey and Jonah Coleman, if one of them has value
46:47or none of them has value in a way for an entire season in terms of drafting.
46:51But I think we'll get to certain points that individual weeks, one of these guys will be ranked quite highly in your running back rankings.
46:59Yeah. This is a long conversation. I think that all three of them compliment each other in intriguing ways.
47:04If you're like the Broncos, like putting together a roster, um, Jonah Coleman is far closer to J K Dobbins than RJ
47:10Harvey to the point that I think RJ Harvey is like in the RJ Harvey role and that's always going to exist.
47:16And then I kind of viewed Jonah Coleman as like J K Dobbins, like more or less direct replacement where, uh, he
47:23can pass protect, he can catch a couple of passes, but you're really like just trusting his vision and his like lower
47:29center of gravity to kind of, uh, take control like in short yardage situations.
47:33That said they did give J K Dobbins $10 million.
47:36And I think that Jonah Coleman is somebody that I've not drafted a whole lot of while I agree with the narratives
47:42that are, that people are throwing out there. I don't think that he's actually going to take J K Dobbins job this season.
47:48And while we think that J K Dobbins is going to play four games this season, like I didn't do think the
47:55more realistic case is like he plays more than 10.
47:57Uh, and in that scenario, Jonah Coleman, we would be like waiting to see when J K Dobbins misses.
48:03And then even in that situation, that first week, are you really going to feel comfortable that Jonah Coleman is getting enough volume when RJ Harvey's there?
48:10So there's one of these guys where like, I like him for the Broncos.
48:14It was way more than I do in fantasy.
48:17And I will be selling the narrative that Jonah Coleman is going to steal J K Dobbins job.
48:22Um, but I do think that he can do a good impression for J K Dobbins if he does miss time.
48:28Yeah. I mean, J K Dobbins has missed time every season.
48:31So I hate predicting injuries, but if there was ever time to predict injuries, it would kind of be in this case.
48:37Um, I will also add that, you know, one, a Sean Payton running back has never hit 250 carries underneath him.
48:43J K Dobbins was on pace for it last year before he left, I believe in week 10, uh, 10.
48:49Yeah. Yeah. Week 10 of last year. And yet to be on like a career high of carries for a running back
48:55associated to Sean Payton and everyone believing like that was going to be a career season for J K Dobbins.
49:01That also equaled the running back 23 in points per game during that time period.
49:05So the Broncos were rolling and the Broncos were rolling.
49:08And a big part of that is because like RJ Harvey is going to be mixed in, in the red zone with
49:14some cool ass plays to get him receptions, uh, and just receiving totals in general.
49:18Now I think Jonah Coleman has a more receiving ability than J K Dobbins.
49:22He is more comfortable in that area, but at the same time, the RJ Harvey role lingers over it all.
49:28And then really how RJ Harvey got there in the end was because he had the whole thing, right?
49:33He had both the touchdown scores, the receptions, and also like the grinded out work on first and second down.
49:39Yeah. I think, I think what you're getting to is like, let's give Jonah Coleman six weeks without J K Dobbins this year.
49:46Totally understand that. Then we're hoping that he takes the J K Dobbins role where we're hoping we get some RB 25 weeks.
49:52And that's also assuming that Jonah Coleman is in the exact J K Dobbins role and that RJ Harvey's not graduating to
49:58more than that, where I think the re the realistic outcome would be both RJ Harvey and Jonah Coleman's role grows.
50:04And that this, he does not become J K Dobbins.
50:07And even if he did become J K Dobbins, like, so what you have like a flex value.
50:12Like I would rather just take the tank bigs bees and Mike Washington's where it's like nothing, nothing, nothing.
50:18Now they're inside my top 20 for sure, because they have the backflip to themselves.
50:22I just don't see that with Jonah Coleman. Okay.
50:24There are three rookies in the final round of Yahoo drafts right now around 16.
50:29The first is actually Ted Hurst. Hayden, he's wide receiver 64.
50:32Wow. This is from Jason light. After we drafted Ted Hurst, I personally thought, okay, this is a great situation for him
50:38to be behind these guys and learn. He may not make a big impact for us this year, but when he's one
50:44for the future, but I think he's proven to us throughout camp, even OTAs practice every day.
50:49He's been very, very steady and I think it's kind of evolved into, okay, we can use him this year and he's going to play a role.
50:57This is somewhat important because Jim McMillan is missing practice and he met a book is kind of practicing right now with his toe injury.
51:04So it's just Chris Godwin and Ted Johnson at wide receiver.
51:07And that's it. Ted Hurst was a fascinating prospect coming out of Georgia state where he ran a vertical route every single
51:13time and dunked on dudes that were 30 pounds lighter and three tenths of a second slower in terms of his 40.
51:19Yeah. He was a fascinating watch. I can see how some people just view him as like this, we have to draft
51:26this guy and see the upside case. I would say that I just saw too much development needed for Ted Hurst, like take him serious this year.
51:33Comps were DJ Chark, Justin Hunter, Denzel Minns, like the most boom bust, like vertical players.
51:38Um, I thought he had too many drops. I thought like his, like just timing and stuff working across the middle on
51:44slants and digs, everything just kind of felt off his route running and like his, where he's like going to be hitting his break points.
51:51I thought that was off. Um, and as at the same time, like one handed catch in the senior bowl.
51:57And then he did have some like really wow moments when he was opening up in space.
52:02So I think it's a lot to overcome, um, as a rookie.
52:05Um, but if a Mecca and Jalen McMillan get out of the way, then like they're going to get him on the
52:11field and see what, see what he has. It's not at least promising that some of my concerns they have not seen
52:17quite as much, uh, in the off season though, Jason light did call him a developmental prospect.
52:22So I think like they saw the same thing as, as we did on tape, uh, maybe overcomes that quickly, but typically
52:28these guys take, take too long to develop. They have a week 10 by here's my pitch.
52:33Okay. If we know that a Mecca Buka is going to be the Z in this offense, Ted Hurst simply put can
52:40be like the designated sacrificial X here as you line them up in the line of scrimmage once he kind of maybe
52:46gets his release package working and makes a few dunk on you catches, maybe in some role-playing stuff earlier, like Isaac Tesla did last year.
52:53Like maybe, maybe that's the comparison here is Isaac Tesla in a way and how he's being utilized in the NFL versus what he was at Arkansas.
53:00Um, and if that's the case, then he only has to compete with like Chris Godwin who we'll see if he gets back.
53:07And then, uh, Jim McMillan who can't stay on the field right now.
53:11So, uh, I could see us looking down in week 12 and Ted Hurst is playing a bunch of snaps as a
53:17stand on the line of scrimmage and run downfield player.
53:20It's possible. And there's a lot of if then statements.
53:23Uh, I agree. Yeah. But, but I mean, people love this offense.
53:26They're drafting a lot of it. The offensive line might be the best in the NFL.
53:30And so, you know, these types of prospects like Ted Hurst, you can also fall on your face in training camp and like not know what you're doing.
53:38And yes, it sounds like the opposite of that.
53:41So that's good news. Denzel Boston is actually after him as wide receiver 65.
53:45Um, he drew rave reviews in camp, uh, which is understandable.
53:48Denzel Boston is a very good player was the 40th overall pick.
53:51Um, he's going to play and start and run a lot of routes.
53:55Uh, Hayden, it just might be more difficult to get him the football than Casey Concepcion.
54:00Yeah, definitely. So, but I think like Denzel Boston versus Ted Hurst, like to me, like this is not even close.
54:06Like Denzel Boston was like somebody that you could have drafted in the first round goes early in the second round.
54:12My comps, Michael Pittman, Michael Wilson, like Juwan Jennings, uh, depending on exactly where you're gonna line them up.
54:17He's like a traditional X receiver who I thought did a little bit more underneath than given credit for like, now you're
54:23not going to throw him screens, but could you, could you throw him slants and like do that type of thing with, with, uh, Denzel Boston?
54:31I think you can, I thought he was like a pretty, uh, nice route runner.
54:35He's not like crazy explosive in a straight line.
54:37Uh, but I thought he was like a pretty reliable X receiver type, uh, who could work underneath he's six foot four, 212 pounds.
54:44Um, yeah, the problem is obviously the Browns. Like he needs to score touchdowns cause he's not going to catch screens and then you're on the Browns.
54:52It's hard to get there. That said like Denzel Boston versus Ted Hurst playing time this year, it'll be like a three to one, four to one.
54:59He's projected for 48 catches, 584 yards and three touchdowns.
55:02I do think he has some real red zone ability.
55:05Oh yeah. Um, I also believe that the Browns are going to be playing from behind even more this year and maybe
55:11much different on the scoreboard versus their defense being able to keep them within, you know, three to seven to 10 points a bit more often.
55:19Um, so yeah, I mean, it sucks that we have Deshaun Watson and Jador Sanders throwing the football here, but, um, I
55:25do think Denzel Boston and his 80 targets, uh, 80 targets might be a little bit low for me.
55:30It might be like 85 or 90. The other thing that Denzel Boston has as an out is Jerry Judy getting traded,
55:37uh, post June 1st trade for the Browns saves $4 million.
55:40Um, so like as we get closer to the deadline, I'm sure the Browns are going to be removed from playoff contention
55:46and this does seem like the front office that would, you know, we just watch them trade miles.
55:51Gary, I think anything out of Jerry Judy, which I do think Jerry Judy is a starter in the NFL for a contender.
55:57I do think that Jerry Judy getting traded at the deadline, it would just be Concepcion and Boston or Isaiah Bond.
56:03And in that situation, like I could see Denzel Boston, like proving something there, but even then not so much.
56:09Okay. Rank these final round wide receivers. All right.
56:12Uh, Caleb Douglas, Chris Bell, Ted Hurst. Denzel Boston, Boston, Bell Douglas, Hurst for me.
56:16I'm not even going to throw in Zachariah Branch, even though right now he is being drafted in the final round of Yahoo.
56:22Um, interesting player. I just don't know if he's a 2026 player here for the Falcons.
56:27Like maybe he steps in and fills in some slot work here at the same time.
56:31We want Drake London in this slot. We want Kyle Pitts in the slot.
56:35Um, Zachariah Branch out of Georgia needs to be, and USC, uh, just needs to learn like some downfield routes and, you
56:42know, the manipulation and the storytelling when it comes to it.
56:45So I think this year, Hayden, at least for the first half of the season, uh, will likely look at him as,
56:51oh, he's still back to that manufacturer touches. And when he's on the field, he's going to get the football.
56:57Uh, and I just hope that once, if he ever does get playing time, we can just look at his routes and see, oh, he's actually creating separation.
57:05Yes. Yeah. I think it's going to be like a per play, um, uh, investigation on branch.
57:09He has to beat out Zaccheaus for the slot role.
57:12And then, um, there's no actually tough to do.
57:15Like that sounds like nothing. Alameda Zaccheaus has kept better players on the side.
57:19Yes, for sure. Um, and then there's pretty much like no reason to have them out there in two wide receiver sets.
57:25Like that would be like really pressing your luck with Zachariah Branch and like the, the route tree that he had at Georgia.
57:32I didn't notice in the preseason, like they did him, did, uh, have them go down the field and he had like
57:38one of those like tank Dell stop and go back to the sideline.
57:41And you see like incredible athleticism. So he was like, yes.
57:45And I, I think we've behaved in fantasy and then the NFL draft, they behaved a third round pick last round pick
57:51and, and, and even the deepest of drafts. I can say, Hey, Zachariah Branch with this athleticism, he actually has a chance because we're being nice.
57:58But like previously this type of profile would be like, we're drafting around one.
58:02Yeah. It's like, okay, you guys are out of your mind.
58:05I think that Zach buying the absolute lowest on Zachariah Branch is actually kind of intriguing to me because he does have
58:11like the absolute rare, rare start stop ability. Um, and like versus like the Malachi Corleys and those types, it's like not even close.
58:18So like I'm intrigued to watch him because we've behaved.
58:21Okay. Those are the only 14 rookies being selected in drafts right now on Yahoo.
58:25Uh, we'll now go back to the top of the actual NFL draft and just go through some rookies too.
58:31That caught my eye. Obviously the first is Fernando Mendoza.
58:34Kirk cousins has now been named the starter for week one, uh, per Adam Schefter.
58:38The last six quarterbacks drafted number one overall had started in week one.
58:42However, five weeks ago, uh, I would have told you that Fernando Mendoza would be, you know, lucky to play half the
58:48season that was based on, you know, every insider relaying information from Tom Brady and spy tech and Clint Kubiak and all that type of stuff.
58:55And yet Kubiak and spy tech have all been apparently wowed by Mendoza during training camp.
59:00And, uh, Hey, we could hear his name called as soon as week two.
59:04Yeah, definitely. So, so they're by weeks, week 13.
59:06I think at the very least he's coming in after that.
59:09I think the most likely outcome is playing way before that.
59:13And it's like looking at the schedule, they have two home games in week six and seven against the bills and the Rams.
59:19But guess what? You're going to play some real teams.
59:22This is the dang NFL. Uh, I thought he acclimated himself under center.
59:26I think that was like in training camp. They're like, we have never seen you do this before.
59:31Let's see if you can handle it. And obviously the results in the preseason games have been very hit and miss.
59:37We've had pick sixes and we've had some really awesome passes over the middle.
59:41I think in general, I would give him the pass and say, he's gonna have to develop and like learn when the
59:47bullets are flying in the regular season to like actually go somewhere with this.
59:51And I think that Kubiak's a sharp, sharp guy.
59:53So, you know, thank you, Kirk cousins for being a nice guy.
59:57Get through, you know, let's give him the first four.
60:00Four games, play the cheese, go into new England for the, for week five, go take your L there.
60:05And then week six, seven at home. I feel like that would be like what I would do if I was the Raiders.
60:12This is obviously more of a super flex conversation for preseason stuff.
60:15I'm looking at your rankings and for week one starters, you have Fernando Mendoza ranked ahead of whoever starting for the Falcons,
60:21whoever starting for the Browns, Jacob Brissett, Aaron Rodgers, Cam Ward, Gino Smith and Bryce Young for the season.
60:27And he's just behind, you know, CJ Stroud and especially only one spot behind overall, Daniel Jones.
60:31So again, if that's your super flex, um, he is worth a draft pick.
60:35That's for sure. Yeah. So if you're like one of the last to draft your quarterback too, and you want to be
60:42the first to draft your quarterback three and it's Fernando Mendoza.
60:45I think that's like totally fine. I think, uh, people view like Fernando Mendoza as like this, like pocket quarterback.
60:50And like for the most part he is, he did have some moments where he was trucking defenders, uh, for touchdowns.
60:56And I think that you can get them involved where you can have enough rushing production to be like the quarterback 25.
61:02And I've seen enough from Kubiak this off season to be like, there's a chance that this could like look the part.
61:09They don't have enough skill talent to actually go anywhere, but I think that this is going to be a functional organization for Fernando Mendoza.
61:16Next to our jets rookies, Kenyon Sadiq, the tight end, Omar Cooper, the wide receiver.
61:20Uh, Cooper was a 30th overall pick. The athletic Zach Rosenblatt believes Cooper's role quote should grow over time.
61:25He started to show some signs of life by the end of training camp.
61:29Uh, and Kenyon Sadiq maybe showed signs of life this week.
61:33I mean, apparently he is on track to play according to, uh, the New York jets website, but Frank Reich on Mike
61:39has said he is behind and we can't do like anything close to what the plan was.
61:44Uh, Hayden, it was perfectly applicable. I think for neither of these players to be fantasy relevant to start in week one,
61:50but, uh, I wouldn't put it past. One of them to be fancy relevant at some point this season.
61:55Yeah, definitely. So, I mean, we've never had first round picks in the NFL draft go completely undrafted in fantasy.
62:01And that's what's happened with both of these guys.
62:03So like I'm intrigued. I didn't even like Kenyon Sadiq.
62:06I didn't even like Omar Cooper. I thought those were bad picks by the jets and I've been drafting them, uh, like,
62:12you know, 15, 16, 17, 18th round. Like I, I draft these guys.
62:16Like there's just like, it's only upside, uh, Omar Cooper.
62:19Like he, I didn't love him as a prospect.
62:22I got that he should have gone round two.
62:24I think Kenyon Sadiq closer to round two as well for me.
62:27And still like, um, these guys are absolutely free and they are way better talents than the guys that they're going undrafted again.
62:34I guess my only point is if Garrett Wilson and Adonai Mitchell are in two wide receiver sets and basically the outside
62:40wide receivers and Mason Taylor has made his claim to the tight end one spot, which it sounds like he has.
62:46Yes. And these two guys are almost battling for the same position in a way, uh, where Kenyon Sadiq in 12 personnel
62:52is kind of your athletic receiving tight end. And then Omar Cooper might be best in the slot.
62:57I'll be it. He played outside, you know, one season at Indiana.
63:01Um, but yeah, I mean, they're kind of, Hey, let's get the ball in their hands in the short to intermediate area.
63:07Uh, and even some downfield, like run the seam, especially for Kenyon Sadiq.
63:11And you can do that Omar Cooper too. Uh, but after the catch is like where they can really make their difference in a mismatch way.
63:18I will say completely agree. These guys have no chance for, for a while, but it's a long season.
63:24And if like Adonai Mitchell is struggling, I do think Omar Cooper can be in two wide receiver sets that experiment that
63:30in the back half of the season. I think that Kenyon Sadiq overtaking Mason Taylor is I think more challenging than Omar
63:36Cooper getting into the slot and then eventually coming for Adonai Mitchell, or you have two wide receivers to go down.
63:42So like, I would rather have Omar Cooper versus Kenyon Sadiq straight up.
63:46Um, but these guys are just way too cheap for the draft capital that they got.
63:50And there's also a chance that they really don't think Sadiq is ready after, you know, re-aggravating his injury.
63:56And, you know, Frank Reich, at least during his time with the Panthers lined up in 11 personnel, 92% of the time.
64:02And if that's the case, then Omar Cooper is going to be out there 75 plus percent of the time, you know?
64:08Yep. Yep. So I'd rather do Omar versus Sadiq.
64:11Uh, and I'm old enough to admit it. I, I have been drafting some Mason Taylor on my Geno Smith teams.
64:16Um, I think he's like, I think he was a real player.
64:20Jeremy Bernard is next. Uh, he's the wide receiver four on the Steelers right now.
64:24The wide receiver three though is Roman Wilson. To me, that should be someone that Jeremy Bernard beats out if that competition is fair.
64:31And let's say Aaron Rodgers thumb is not on the button.
64:34Um, they also have a week nine by, so maybe he's more of like a second half of the season, but I
64:40think this team just has wide receiver questions in general.
64:43Like Michael Pittman Jr. Aaron Rodgers was on the mic today and he said his start of the season basically might be slow.
64:50Uh, he hyped up DK Metcalf, um, and Pat Friermuth on top of this.
64:54But man, Jeremy is just one of those guys that did everything at Alabama in terms of the entire passing attack from
65:00Ryan Grubb was built around him, lined up in every single spot.
65:03And when he's on the field, he just makes place.
65:06It's that simple. Yeah. He went from Washington to Michigan state to Alabama.
65:10So he's played in different offenses. I thought he handled himself well.
65:13He had 18 carries for a hundred rushing yards on top of all the receiving work he did.
65:18He's like a very physical underneath middle of the field type of player.
65:22Jacoby Myers and Romeo Dobbs kind of come to mind.
65:25Jalen Polk was like the low end comp for, for Jeremy Bernard.
65:28That's what he was doing in the preseason. He caught plenty of passes like underneath towards the sideline, work over the middle,
65:34shed a tackle, like that type of outlook. I didn't have a lot of that already on the team between Pittman, uh,
65:41their running backs and then they have two tight ends.
65:43So I think it'd be hard to make the math work, uh, as a rookie, but if Pittman or Metcalf goes down,
65:50I think that Jeremy Bernard would be in two wide receiver sets.
65:53And at that point you could, you can dream of something.
65:56Um, I think Roman Wilson's not, I wouldn't even be surprised if Jeremy Bernard's out there ahead of Roman Wilson in week
66:02one, like Roman Wilson, I don't think like was fully understand the playbook last year.
66:07And I'm sure Rogers would rather give Jeremy a chance than Roman Wilson.
66:10Eli Stowers is next drafted out of Vanderbilt to be a, I guess, receiving mismatch tight end.
66:15He's an athletic freak, uh, had a bunch of production last season.
66:19Um, it seems like he's at zero production in the preseason to the point where beat writers, like some of my buddies
66:25there are mentioning that they might even bring in Zach Ertz to be the tied into on the scene behind Dallas Goddard.
66:31So Eli Stowers among every name that we've talked about so far might have the most difficult path of getting on the field right now.
66:38Yeah. My fears just come in true for Stowers.
66:41I was just a lot lower on Stowers than everyone else.
66:44I thought Mike is sick. He was the fair comp, but it took some time for get sick to have some of his best moments.
66:51I just thought that he had no chance as a blocker in college.
66:55And then the preseason table was like equally as bad.
66:57Um, yeah, you have to block to get the rock.
67:00He's, he's still a slot wide receiver to me.
67:03Like I think his best path forward is like try to be Mark, uh, Marquise Colson.
67:07Uh, I don't know, man, I would guess this would be a red shirt year for Eli Stowers.
67:12Yeah. Which is tough. Cause I believe he's also an older prospect if memory serves correctly.
67:17Well, he started off as a dang quarterback. So he, this is a lot, this is a, we're asking him to do a lot.
67:24On that note, number 20, I just have written down all of the blocking tight ends.
67:28Cause they were all drafted in round two and round three.
67:31So that's Bor Kercher of the Jaguars, uh, Klein of the Texans.
67:35Claire of, he's not really a receiving guy, but he's tied in four on the Rams right now.
67:40Sam Rausch of the Chicago bears, Oscar Delp of the New Orleans Saints and Wills Kazmarek of the Miami Dolphins.
67:46If you had to pick one of these names to be fancy relevant this year, who would it be?
67:51Delp. Something happens to Juwan Johnson. They need somebody to just do yards after they catch stuff.
67:56He was my highest graded out of that bunch.
67:58Uh, the other guys was like too buried in the depth charts or like they're just too like in their own role.
68:04Um, so it would be Delp for me, but there's Raritan was not in that group.
68:09Uh, Eli Raritan would be the real answer. I have him on the list.
68:13Okay, good. Don't worry. We can talk about Eli Raritan now.
68:16That's fine. Um, he didn't play in the final preseason game along with the other starters on the Patriots, which is a great sign.
68:23Um, I've been shocked in, I guess now the one season that, Josh McDaniels has been back in new England and now
68:29we're in off season two, that he didn't make more of an emphasis to invest in the tight end position.
68:35And I have stood next to Josh McDaniels where he circumvents the draft board and he's like, no, actually we're going to
68:41take X, Y, Z and screw your draft board.
68:44Um, yep. So yeah, Eli Raritan is going to be out there in two tight end sets.
68:48And, uh, Hayden, if there's a chance of Hunter Henry missing time at all this season, which we don't want to happen,
68:55but if it does, Eli Raritan might be ranked as a top 15 tight end weekly.
68:59I see the same exact way. Uh, he's going to be out there.
69:03I think in the two tight end stuff right away.
69:06Uh, I remember watching him against Ruben Bain and a key message are both, uh, first round edge rushers, uh, for one-on-one
69:12blocks, not like combination blocks, like literally just one-on-one blocks.
69:15And he was handling himself very well. So I think the blocking stuff is going to be a plus with Raritan.
69:21He tore his ACL twice. So it took a little bit for his like receiving production to, to kind of ramp up as a prospect.
69:28Um, but I thought that whenever he was targeted, he moved really well, six foot six, 245 pounds.
69:33He's a big fella, 77th percentile, 40, 78th percentile jumps, huge hands, 11 inch hands on top of that.
69:38Um, I think in dynasty drafts, like this is the guy to circle.
69:42Like when you ran out of names, Eli Raritan is the guy that you want to be drafting.
69:47And I think there's hopefully dynasty drafts are over by now.
69:50There are people, I mean, we were just in a dynasty draft, uh, this week.
69:54That's true. That, that, yeah. Anyways, uh, Carson Beck is next on this list.
69:58They have a week 14 by what week do you expect Carson Beck to play for the Arizona Cardinals?
70:04I'm going to guess it's going to take a little bit of time.
70:07Um, yeah, I mean, the Cardinals, it is, it is, uh, like if they are Owen six, Owen seven, I think we'll
70:14already get some calls for Carson Beck to be out there.
70:17Unfortunately, do you think he's going to leap over Gardner Minshew right away?
70:20Even if like for a couple of games, like do you think it'll be a Gardner Minshew two game period period in there too?
70:27Like who knows? Yeah, maybe one or two, but yeah, I mean, I think it's fair to say that all three Cardinals
70:33quarterbacks are going to start games this year. Yeah.
70:36Uh, I didn't like Carson Beck's film. I thought he was, he really reminded me of the broken down version of Carson
70:42Wentz where he's like a big guy, not moving that well, kind of just launching grenades over the middle.
70:48Sometimes it works and other times it doesn't. Was his preseason tape better than his college tape?
70:52Uh, I guess, but it's like, it's just so hard to like, I mean, he's talking about like third stringers and whatnot.
70:59Um, yeah. Antonio Williams is up next, the receiver for the commanders.
71:02Um, there's one of those players. Um, there's one of those players that was Tyler Boyd ish, maybe Tyler Boyd light, 85%
71:08of Tyler Boyd at Clemson where in your head, when they drafted him and they only had Terry McLaurin at wide receiver,
71:15you're like, okay, if he has the perfect camp, perfect off season, and somehow, some way lines up as the wide receiver
71:21too, he's just going to be productive. Um, now that's not the case.
71:24We know that they've added Stefan Diggs and he's running behind Traylon Burks on top of it, but ESPN's John Kine believes
71:31rookie will quote play early for the commanders this season.
71:33But at the same time, again, it's Terry and then it's trail on the outside as digs on the inside.
71:39And they also have Chegg. So I'm not exactly sure how Antonio Williams is going to get in the field.
71:45Yeah. I, I'm selling that he's going to play a bunch.
71:48Uh, digs is going to be the slot and three wide receiver sets is what they showed in the preseason.
71:54That's what he's, he was last year as well.
71:56Um, and with the Texans. So yeah, I thought that there was like a lack of suddenness to Antonio Williams game and that he would do everything else.
72:04Right. But I just thought that his size to athleticism ratio just made it hard for me to like see like a real NFL role.
72:11I thought he's like a fringe starter in the slot.
72:14Like Jalen Naylor was somebody that I confident to, uh, uh, Khalil Shakir was like his upside comp.
72:19I just think that Shakir is just like a little bit more graceful in ways.
72:23Antonio Williams isn't. Um, so yeah, we have not heard much of him in camp.
72:28It's been one of like the most quiet camps there is.
72:31And they have other guys, you know, like even Luke McCaffrey and stuff that can get in the way of Antonio Williams.
72:37Malachi Fields was drafted next, um, of the New York giants.
72:40ESPN's Jordan Ronan believes Malachi Fields will all likely start as the Giants number two receiver opposite link neighbors.
72:45Uh, he did the rare change from zero to number 88.
72:49I don't know if you saw like it. I did the opposite direction.
72:52Um, Malachi Fields is, or excuse me, Malachi Fields is massive and did some cool insert block stuff as well.
72:58Uh, had some big downfield catches. Uh, I do wonder if good corners in the NFL are just going to stick to
73:04his hip pocket, but, um, he does offer something different than Malachi Nivers on the field.
73:09That's for sure. I think he's going to be in two wide receiver sets for the giants, uh, very early on.
73:15I think it's gonna be a rotation for them, but it's almost like a, maybe like a version of like the Trey
73:21Harris role where like you're not a full-time player, but in like two wide receiver sets, like you're weirdly out there, uh, for, for plenty of them.
73:28Uh, he reminded me of like Dave Davis, Elika Uminor as a prospect.
73:32Um, it sounds like he's having a bigger impact than like Elika Uminor was in camp.
73:37Uh, and that they've actually really liked him totally different profile versus Darnell Noody and Darius Slayton and those types.
73:42So I think there's going to be a part-time role for him, but the bar to clear versus like those other guys
73:49is very low and Slayton can be moved at any point.
73:52Darnell Noody, these guys like no guaranteed money. So, um, I thought his tape was like interesting.
73:57Uh, he, he had some of the moments where he was actually really fast.
74:00I know that, uh, um, some of the on-field tracking data for him was like really, really positive.
74:06Um, but he was kind of lumbering whenever like he was tasked, like get in and out of his breaks.
74:11It's kind of an interesting player. I have Drew Aller written down of the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I mean, I just can't
74:17see him being a 2027 starting quarterback for as long as Aaron Rogers is a part of this team.
74:23Um, I could envision Pittsburgh Steelers who by the way, have four quarterbacks on their roster right now doing something funky with
74:29Mason Rudolph and only for the majority of the season, having Aaron Rogers, Will Howard and Drew Aller out there.
74:35Yep. That's how I see it. Uh, I think something happened to Rogers.
74:38I think they would want to see Drew Aller the most.
74:42Yeah. Jacoby Lane. Fight on. That's right. Uh, is he the wide receiver two for the Baltimore Ravens?
74:47He's at least the wide receiver three. And I think it's a long season where I think if I had to say,
74:53will he be the wide receiver two at some point for the Ravens?
74:57I would say yes. Uh, and that's all that I care about.
75:00It's like, do you have a pathway to be the top two writers you run your team?
75:05If so, then I can treat you serious redraft.
75:07And I think he easily passes those bars at this point.
75:10And he should be selected ahead of like Zachariah branch or something that's going at the end of Yahoo drafts right now.
75:17Oh yeah. I think ahead of Omar Cooper, Chris Bell, all those guys like, yeah, this guy, it's, it's closer to Denzel
75:23Boston than anybody else we've talked about. Um, he, he is incredible at the catch point.
75:27Like that was his calling card. And if he shows a little bit more explosiveness than what we saw on college tape,
75:34where I thought he was like, very, like he was taking his time out in the route.
75:38I could just never feel if he was like so slow where he can't do it.
75:43Or if he's like trying to do something that nobody else in the league tries to do.
75:48Um, but he did have a good combine. Um, and he's just been dominant and it's the type of wide receiver Lamar has never had.
75:55So I'm very curious to see Jacoby lane and what that means for the Ravens offense.
75:59He's an interesting personality. I've never met him. I just, you know, every single video that the Ravens post, it's interesting where
76:06it's one of those things where things are going well.
76:08It's like, Oh, he's fun. He's loud. He like is doing skits.
76:12And then when it's not going well, I could kind of get a sense that maybe it's like a bit grating, you
76:18know, in a way like, why does this guy have so much energy?
76:22Like we just lost a game. So it's, uh, he's cool though.
76:25I mean, it's, he's a really fun player. His top 10 catches at USC just this past season were the like 10 best of any prospect.
76:33Yeah. Before last season started, Jacoby lane was thought of as the better NFL prospects versus Makai lemon.
76:38Obviously Makai lemon had the crazy season, but the Jacoby lane was like, this is multiple years of him, like really mattering and being involved.
76:45Uh, 21 year old early to Claire four star six foot four, um, caught more touchdown passes than Makai lemon over the last two seasons.
76:52Like there I'm, I'm treating this training camp as like, this was the, there was a boom bus prospects here and he's looking like a boom.
76:59Kalen black 49ers sounds like he's the running back too behind Chris McCaffrey.
77:03Uh, I got to him late in the process, uh, when we were doing our running back rankings and he immediately became
77:09like a top five running back for me. Uh, just because he was clearly the best pass protection back in this class,
77:15uh, bad running back prospect class, but he did something extremely well.
77:19Um, yeah. And it seems like Kyle Shanahan appreciates that about him and actually likes the young back.
77:24They drafted him in the third round. So like in terms of like draft capital, like this is like, uh, we should
77:30treat him serious as like, he has a chance to matter, uh, him and Jordan James still a competition, but I say
77:36that black is definitely in the lead there after what he did in the preseason.
77:41And, uh, they both missed time, but James missed a little bit more time.
77:45Uh, I saw the same pass protection stuff. I had him in the same tier as Katron Allen and Jonah Coleman, like
77:51Jonah Coleman, uh, and Kalen black to me, it's like, it's all, it's all pipes.
77:55It's about the same. So, uh, I think that Kalen black is draftable and the very last rounds of your draft.
78:01If you have CMC and you're very nervous, uh, you can pick up Kalen black.
78:05And I think that he would be a good insurance.
78:08Brennan Thompson of the charters is next. Hayden, we like Brennan Thompson.
78:11He's a fun player in that he's tiny and he's super fast and he does his best to win down the field.
78:18Uh, do you see like a legit pathway for Brennan Thompson to get playing time with the charters?
78:23Of course not. But I will say he was lighting up everybody in the sec, um, as like a boundary player.
78:29That is not a slot player. This is like you're facing press man coverage in the sec.
78:33Everyone knows in the stadium, which route you're running.
78:36And are you going to get open? And guess what?
78:39He just got opened all the time. So 86% of his routes were on the outside career.
78:4418.5 yards per catch. He ran a straight line over and over and over.
78:48But he was dang good at it. He was one of the freaks list guys squatted 405 pounds, bench press 305 pounds, four, two, six 40.
78:55He's 164 pounds, 164 pounds. And he could bench 305 dog.
78:58Yeah. I mean, Mike McDaniel looked at his ratings and just saw strong fast.
79:02And he's like, we're going to draft this guy no matter what, even if he doesn't get in the field at all.
79:08Yeah. It's like John Brown. Hopefully it's going to take a couple of years though.
79:13Two chiefs. Emmitt Johnson, the running back Cyrus Allen, the wide receiver.
79:16I would say with Johnson, even if he's not listed as the running back to, even if he didn't necessarily run as
79:22the running back to, to close out the preseason, he will be the running back to on the team.
79:28I still believe. And it's different than like Mike Washington and the Raiders, for example, like everything that we are hearing about
79:34Ken Walker, the third is that he's a franchise altering player that they're going to give him everything.
79:39And that when he needs a blow, that's when Emmitt Johnson is going to come at least that's my interpretation of it.
79:45People out there might disagree. No, I think, I think he won the RB2 job.
79:49Uh, and then Brashard Smith is like a, you know, a Jarek McKinnon, uh, type of player and that Emmitt Johnson would
79:56be the, the insurance play to Kenneth Walker. That said, Emmitt Johnson, I never really did it for me.
80:01Um, in general, not that that's like what we care about.
80:04Like if he's the RB2 behind Walker, then that's like all you, all he needs, whether he's good or bad.
80:10Um, he was pretty small. I didn't think that he like ran through defenders very much.
80:14Uh, so I thought he's more of a change of pace player, but like they just don't have anybody else to like really threaten Emmitt Johnson.
80:22So, uh, I think I'd rather have Caitlin Black than Emmitt Johnson, but I understand it's like the same, same tier to me.
80:28And then Cyrus Allen, uh, he didn't see a snap until after Rashi Rice, Xavier Worthy and Tyquan Thornton all left the final preseason game.
80:35So, uh, Hayden, despite all of the highlights in man and zone coverage, uh, Cyrus Allen seems to be like the wider
80:42zero four on this team, but, uh, I am leaving the light on.
80:45I really am leaving the light on the season.
80:48Um, leave the light on. That's fine with me.
80:50Um, there's a chance with him. Uh, he was used in preseason more as a slot backup to like Rashi Rice.
80:56Then I get threats for Tyquan Thornton that could change as a season.
81:00Uh, Tyquan Thornton is like a downfield role player and that is not Cyrus Allen's game.
81:04Definitely. So, but like, that's like his easiest way to like get into three wide receivers.
81:09He's not going to steal Rashi Rice or Xavier Worthy's job here.
81:12Um, but if Rashi Rice misses time, then I think you can do a Rashi Rice type of thing with Cyrus Allen if you had to.
81:20There's the other part of this where we know Rashi Rice is bad against man coverage and Cyrus Allen, uh, actually has,
81:26I think some man coverage chops to his game where if opponents just week after week are like, Oh yeah, we're going
81:32to play the chiefs wide receivers at a high rate of man coverage and be able to slow down Xavier Worthy because,
81:38uh, other quarters have in the past and all that stuff.
81:42And like, maybe that's how Cyrus, like, again, it's one of these cases where Patrick Holmes is the quarterback and we don't
81:48get amped to draft any of these pass catchers really that that's what makes me leave the wide on here for Cyrus Allen versus where he was drafted.
81:56Yep. He's a waiver wire guy. Well, he's somebody that I'm willing to track as the season progresses.
82:01I have not drafted him in best ball. Two more quick names versus Nicholas Singleton, who was, I believe a fifth round running back for the Titans.
82:08I legitimately have not heard a single thing about Nicholas Singleton in preseason.
82:12I went back and watched like 36 of his snaps.
82:15Uh, he picked the right hole and then on first contact, he went down consistently.
82:19Just not, it was just not a good prospect in my opinion.
82:23Um, yeah, but people were drafting him ahead of Sean Shribling in their rookie drafts.
82:27I just want to. They were, they were, they definitely were that that did happen.
82:31Uh, he was like a one 10, one 12 for a while.
82:35Crazy. Uh, that's where I think, um, watching the film, you know, helps out.
82:38Seth McGowan is last. And despite him being a seventh round rookie, he has won the backup job for Jonathan Taylor.
82:44Now Hayden, I don't know if we should put Seth McGowan at like the top of, or near the top of the handcuff list.
82:51Cause I think this is one of those cases that if something happens to Jonathan Taylor for an extended period of time,
82:57they're just going to get in the phone and call whatever veteran they think is the least washed.
83:03And here he comes. Yes. Um, McGowan's fascinating. Um, because like 26, he's 26.
83:07I looked this up. He was arrested in May of 2021 on felony charges, including robbery and assault, pled guilty.
83:12He served three months in jail, followed by a year of probation.
83:16Typically someone that goes through that, they do not get any chances in the NFL.
83:20Um, and the fact that he was actually even drafted to one star B2 job, like there's, I think there's more upside
83:26with him because I think he fell in the draft for these type of reasons where like in theory, if he's like
83:32on his best behavior, I think he could outplay this.
83:35It's asking a lot, you know, for, uh, almost nearly undrafted player to, to matter in fantasy though.
83:40I believe he was Mike Washington's juniors teammate at new Mexico state as well.
83:44Yeah. I'm not mistaken. Yeah. I think, I think he was the backfield there.
83:48All right. That does it. That is 32 rookies in the time that you watched this video.
83:53Hopefully you have a good barometer of what to expect now and early in the season and later in the season.
83:59And even in this bad rookie class, I'll say it, um, disappointing, there's going to be one, two, three, four names that
84:05make their mark and are key factors in who wins and loses in your fantasy league.
84:10So hopefully you found them from this video. All right.
84:13Chop, Mosho and weaves. Uh, we're going to be back here with quarterbacks and tight ends to round out the week with our final rankings.
84:20We'll see you next time.