Stop Losing Your Fantasy Football Draft In the Middle Rounds
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52 min
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May 27, 2026
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Wed, May 27, 2026
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Jayden ReedBucky IrvingDavid MontgomeryParker WashingtonTravis EtienneGarrett WilsonZay Flowers
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Bucky Irving
NegativeProjection0:22
Underdog projections currently set Bucky Irving's rushing touchdowns at 5.5, which is tough to sell given his current role and injury concerns.
Insight pageNegativeInjury0:38
Bucky Irving is recovering from offseason shoulder surgery and has not been cleared to participate, raising concerns about his availability for the upcoming season.
Insight pageDavid Montgomery
PositiveValue0:39
David Montgomery is currently being selected as the running back 22, which reflects a volume-based draft pick in round five. His performance could vary significantly based on the Texans' offensive line improvements.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:39
If the Texans' offensive line investments pay off, David Montgomery could be a solid selection with the potential for eight rushing scores inside the 15-yard line this year.
Insight pageGarrett Wilson
PositiveRole0:45
Garrett Wilson has established himself as one of the better wide receivers in the NFL and is expected to maintain a high target share despite competition.
Insight pageJayden Reed
NegativeRole0:41
Jaden Reed seems to be typecasted into a specific role in a balanced offense, limiting his upside compared to other wide receivers in the same draft range.
Insight pageNegativeUsage0:47
Jaden Reed has only run a pass route on eight plays in two wide receiver sets over three NFL seasons, raising concerns about his usage and potential impact.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:47
Jaden Reed is currently being drafted in the seventh round, but there are other wide receivers like Josh Downs who may offer better value at a lower cost.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveBreakout0:41
Parker Washington was PPR's wide receiver 18 from week seven on, showcasing a 21% target share and strong usage, indicating potential for a breakout season.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:41
Parker Washington has shown versatility in his routes, excelling both in the slot and outside, which could lead to increased opportunities in a pass-heavy offense.
Insight pageTravis Etienne
PositiveProjection0:02
Travis Etienne has cleared 1,300 total yards in three of his four seasons and is in the best environment for fantasy points he's ever been in, thanks to coach Kellen Moore.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:02
With minimal competition behind him, Travis Etienne is expected to have a significant role in the Saints' offense, especially with Alvin Kamara's uncertain future.
Insight pageZay Flowers
PositiveRole0:55
Zay Flowers had a solid season last year but has not been a significant red zone target, which could limit his touchdown upside compared to Garrett Wilson.
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Episode Transcript
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0:41Look, we can spend an entire summer talking about 300 players.
0:44We absolutely will on this channel. Hit subscribe by the way, but Hayden, when you whittle it down and you're on the
0:51clock, your fantasy football draft comes down to picking player A versus player B.
0:55And that decision can really define your entire fantasy season.
0:58So that's what today's show is all about a round by round.
1:02This player versus that player battle to the death.
1:04Yep. Rounds three through round seven is kind of the range we're talking about.
1:08A really important range. We're gonna have videos about the first and second round in entirety.
1:13So this next range, I like to go player by player here.
1:17And you really kind of group these players together like in your head.
1:21And when you sit there and actually make your notes all the way through, I came out with like pretty clear winners
1:27and losers for each one of these categories. Even though going into this, I'd had them back to back my own rankings.
1:34Yeah. The top 24 is kind of stable all summer.
1:36Again, we will do re-rankings of those first rounds.
1:39Those are some of your favorite videos all summer long.
1:42But I would say like this rounds three through seven is where we can differ most from ADP.
1:47We can gain the most advantage versus where players are drafted to.
1:51So let's dive into the first one. We're going to start off in that third round.
1:56Talk about two running backs here. Brees Hall, who's the fifth pick of the third round versus Travis Etienne, who's the seventh pick of the third round.
2:04Which one are you taking? I love Travis Etienne.
2:06I bumped him up after doing all the research here.
2:09He's cleared 1,300 total yards in three of his four seasons.
2:13His loneliness was when he was unhealthy. He had coach Peterson.
2:16I think this is the best environment he's ever been in for fantasy points.
2:20Coach Kellen Moore is very functional. He's been that way at every single one of his stops.
2:25Tyler Shuck looks like an emerging quarterback. The Saints were first in neutral pace last season.
2:30They couldn't create explosives, but in comes a first round wide receiver.
2:33In comes a veteran guard. Both of their tackles look awesome.
2:37Shuck going into the second year. And then we obviously know when he's playing behind a good offensive line, which he rarely
2:43has in his career, he can rip off the explosives.
2:46I would say the Saints offensive line is pretty good.
2:49So there's going to be almost no competition behind him.
2:52I'm assuming Alvin Kamara is going to retire or get released, or he's just Alvin Kamara from last year, which was one
2:58of the most ineffective rushers out there. It's Devin Neal, Ty Chandler, Kendry Miller, Audrick Esme behind him.
3:04Last year, he was the RB11 on the RB14 usage.
3:07I think that this 874 rushing yards in the pick and lobby is too low.
3:11I think that he has a chance to be a top 12 fantasy running back this season.
3:16Yeah. Some of the Alvin Kamara quotes coming out of Saints offseason activities are kind of even questioning if he even exists on that roster at this moment.
3:25And we'll see what happens the rest of the summer.
3:27Like you pointed out, there's just one, I would say, negative spot on that offensive line.
3:32And it's Cesar Ruiz at right guard. The rest are really good players, first round tackles, and then David Edwards, who they
3:39signed from the Buffalo Bills, who start at left guard from them.
3:42And the number one point that you bring up, I mean, Kelly Moore's offenses, it doesn't matter where he goes, LA, Dallas,
3:49Philadelphia, and here at the Saints, they will be top three in place no matter what.
3:54And that's going to carry over once again. So, you know, we had two drastically different past two seasons here from Travis H.
4:00And Travis H and Josh Travis H and running back 41 and points per game in 2024 versus running back 10 and points per game in 2025.
4:08My only two concerns here. One, he did not rush for 100 yards in a game after week four of last season.
4:15That's coming from a Liam Cohen offense, which we know, and we'll talk about other running backs that he has coached.
4:21It's just fantastic in rushing departments. And this is from our buddy, Ryan Heath.
4:25We look at expected fancy points per game by play callers to running backs.
4:29Kellen Moore actually ranks 30th over the last few seasons.
4:32So was that a talent deficiency thing? And did they change that by going out and getting Travis H and basically the first day of free?
4:40Yeah, I'd like to see that number without last season when the Saints, I mean, they just gave up running the ball as they should.
4:47But yeah, I think that fast paced offense and you have some explosives with H and I think it's just going to be pretty obvious that it's him.
4:56I will also note this there. The Saints are 24th in projected points according to the betting markets this year.
5:02That feels too low. Like they were pretty much like that last season.
5:05And I think it's going to go up from there.
5:08We're definitely going to do a show on projected points for each of these offenses.
5:13Talk about the top 10 and pick out some of our favorites that will over underperform, because as we talk about every
5:19single offseason, that's where you can find early the draft gems in your fantasy league.
5:24Hey, I'm going to go against you. I'm going to pick Brees Hall for this one.
5:29Look, running back nine in points per game coming off that knee injury in 2023.
5:33That's what we've been chasing over the last two years.
5:36But still, I mean, he's been running back 21 in points per game, running back 18 the year before that.
5:42And he's played in bad offenses and still 1300 total yards in three straight seasons.
5:46So to me, yards have never been the problem for Brees Hall.
5:50It's just about touchdowns and touchdowns happen more often when you're on better systems and better offenses.
5:55I think from a talent perspective, Hayden, this is the most talented offense that he has been a part of.
6:01Whatever you think about Geno Smith, he is better than what he's had in recent past.
6:06Obviously, the pass catchers, wide receivers, and namely the offensive line investment that this team has.
6:10So four, five, five rushing scores over the last three years, just one receiving touchdown last year.
6:15Unfortunately, as you brought up, the Jets are predicted for the second fewest amount of points this year per game at 18.6.
6:22But call me crazy. I just have a bit of optimism that Brees Hall, this is going to be the platform that
6:28he finally gets to showcase the talent and the rusher that he is like we saw back in 2023.
6:34I'm fine with his ADP. I got him ranked 30th.
6:37His ADP is at 30th overall. That point, 18.6, is actually higher than what it was this last year.
6:43So I do agree. It should be better than last year.
6:46But last year was pretty tough. The Jets were 29th in scoring.
6:49He was the RB22 on an RB20 per game finish.
6:52I will note that there were some games with Brady Cook.
6:56And if you remove those games, he was the RB17, which makes some sense there.
7:00So that's kind of where I have him ranked, kind of in the RB17, RB18 range.
7:05The Frank Reich stuff really makes me nervous. He was fired midseason in 2022, fired midseason in 2023.
7:10He sat out in 2024. Then it was the interim head coach at Stanford.
7:14Didn't even make that entire season go either. So I agree.
7:17This should be one of the best spots of his career.
7:21He's kind of been a tease for us. And we have to make sure that Braylon Allen's not going to go inside
7:27the five-yard line and steal some carries. I couldn't believe it.
7:30He had four inside the five-yard line carries last year at Brees Hall the entire season.
7:35That's wild. Yeah, look, there's the Isaiah Davis, Brylon Allen conversation of last offseason.
7:39Those have seemed quieter this offseason. And Brees Hall, despite the very, I would say, less cryptic post that he's had about
7:46being a New York Jet, now has totally changed after he was tagged and now has signed a long-term extension on top of it.
7:53So if he's healthy, if he's happy, I'm expecting fantasy points to come from it.
7:57Okay, what about this part? The receiving totals, as a prospect, when he was really young, there was the upside that Brees
8:04Hall was going to catch 80 passes per season.
8:07And then last season, the entire offseason was all about Brees Hall is going to catch all these passes.
8:12He's the focal point of our receiving game. It just never materialized.
8:16Do you think Frank Reich is going to do something about that?
8:19Do you think it's an Aaron Glenn thing? Was that just Justin Fields?
8:23For him to get back into the top 12 conversation, he's got to catch more passes because the Jets offense is just
8:30not going to be very good, even if we're expecting it to get a little bit better.
8:35What are the odds Brees Hall goes back to the upside case where he could be one of the better receiving backs in the league?
8:42Yeah, and receiving touchdowns matter too. I mentioned he had one receiving touchdown last year.
8:47He had three and four prior to that. So that's a jump in that department.
8:51You just have to get 10, 11, 12 touchdowns to really be a difference maker.
8:55If you get up to 13, then that's a major fantasy asset.
8:59And just from an environmental perspective, that hasn't been the case with the Jets.
9:03And then from a projected team point standpoint, that is not projected to be that this year either.
9:08So a bit concerning from those fronts. But at the end of the day, while both these backfields, I think, are kind
9:15of barren behind their starters, I actually think that Brees Hall is a better talent than Travis Achan.
9:20But at the same time, you can easily point to the Kellen Moore and Saints factor of having Achan ahead of him too.
9:27Yep. Yeah, we were not. We were unhelpful. Split the decision there and they're back to back in ADP.
9:33All right. Maybe we'll agree on this next one.
9:35Let's go to the round four wide receivers. And Zay Flowers here, the second pick of the fourth round compared to Garrett
9:42Wilson right after as a third pick of the fourth run.
9:45Which one are you taking? I'm going to go with Garrett Wilson here.
9:49I'm still very concerned about Frank Reich. But I do think that Garrett Wilson has established himself as one of the better
9:56wide receivers in the NFL, despite having run first quarterbacks or can't throw quarterbacks out there.
10:00And I think that Geno Smith, as concerning as his tape was last year when he was throwing those interceptions, I do
10:07think he can throw the football and get some receiving production if they're losing games in the back half.
10:12I also wanted to mention that I think that the combination of Adnan Mitchell, Omar Cooper Jr., Kenyon Sadiq, I think that's kind of overrated.
10:20I'm just not expecting a whole bunch from rookies, even though they're first rounders.
10:24I didn't love either one of those profiles. So I do think that in terms of target share, I wouldn't be surprised
10:30if Garrett Wilson just does it again. He had 27% target share from 2024 and 2025.
10:35He was a fantasy wide receiver, too, over that stretch.
10:38Even with more, quote-unquote, target competition, I still think that Garrett Wilson is just light years better than everyone else on this offense.
10:45So to your point with Brees Hall, I'm expecting Geno Smith to just make this offense look functional.
10:50And I think that's going to help Garrett Wilson as much as it will with Brees Hall.
10:55I'm also taking Garrett Wilson, so we're on the same side here.
10:59I don't want to make it sound like this is an anti-Zay Flowers take, but I have more to say on why
11:05I wouldn't take Zay Flowers ahead of Garrett Wilson and why I would take Garrett Wilson ahead of Zay Flowers, if that makes sense.
11:12Like, for example, last season, Zay Flowers finished overall, if we look at total points, which I do not when I'm looking
11:19at these players, and I'll say why, Zay Flowers finishes the wide receiver 12th in total points.
11:24But then if you looked in per-game numbers, Garrett Wilson actually finished ahead of Zay Flowers in that department.
11:30And so per-game metrics to me, and we get a lot of comments about this, right?
11:34Because I think a lot of the industry and a lot of people that play fantasy football just look at, well, how
11:41many points total did you accumulate out there? And that's your standing in terms of fantasy assets.
11:46But to me, per-game metrics kind of give a better week-to-week decision-making barometer than full-season stuff because if you start 17 games
11:52and you get kind of not average production per se, but good production, then that volume can look better at the end
11:59of the season compared to someone who missed some games, yes, but made a bigger impact when they were available in your starting lineup.
12:06And that's what win you weeks. That's what gets you an extra two, three, four fantasy points per contest.
12:12And then the other point that I've always struggled here was Zay Flowers, who is a really talented football player and a
12:18really good fit on this Ravens offense, is that he's just never been a condensed field asset for them.
12:24He had 10 red zone targets this past season.
12:26That's fewer than Malik Washington had. That's fewer than Olamide Zaccheaus had.
12:30And if you compare that to Garrett Wilson, he had 23 red zone targets back in 2024.
12:35Zay Flowers' highest number is 13, I believe. So that's also still playing with Lamar Jackson for the vast majority of that
12:42time compared to whoever is throwing passes to Garrett Wilson.
12:45So if I'm looking for like real touchdown upside, which in half PPR matters the most, then I just think Garrett Wilson
12:51is a better asset than Zay Flowers there. Zay Flowers' red zone numbers are out of control.
12:56It's a 15.7% target share over the last two seasons inside the red zone, outside the red zone at that 28%.
13:02I mean, 13% decrease. And that's just pretty much because he's what, 5'8", 183 pounds.
13:07I will note with Zay Flowers, this is looking like it could be his best season.
13:11Like last year was already career highs and receptions and yards per game.
13:15Lamar Jackson wasn't healthy. And it was also way worse than he typically is like on film, even when he came back from injury.
13:22Mark Andrews, I don't think we're going to like see him like bounce back.
13:27I think he's just aging. They're still not doing much at wide receiver.
13:30Like we'll see about the two rookies, but I'm not expecting a whole lot from them.
13:35And then there's always the chance if Derrick Henry goes down, that they're going to pass the ball more.
13:41Or that with Declan Doyle taking over, that this offense could pass the ball more, could play a little bit faster just
13:47because they've been so low out there. So I don't dislike Zay Flowers.
13:51We have the same exact read on it. Like he was more likely to score eight, nine touchdowns this year.
13:57I do think that's still Garrett Wilson, even though the offense is a lot better.
14:01If Zay Flowers does catch that many touchdowns, then he's going to be a total smash here.
14:06So after doing notes on both these guys, I feel totally fine with their ADPs at where they are.
14:12I just am leaning towards Garrett Wilson, perhaps being more of a volume hog and probably an offense.
14:17It's going to pass the ball more times. Don't get me wrong.
14:21Like Zay Flowers is a better fancy asset than Garrett Wilson was last year.
14:25We ranked him higher. We drafted him higher. But I just wanted to have that conversation about total points versus per game
14:32stuff, because again, a lot of the total point scores were guys who were good at the game, but also just played
14:3817 games versus if you knew they're going to miss a game, Hayden, you and I talk about this every single week.
14:45Then you can just substitute in someone else in that spot.
14:48And the per game metrics is always what I look at when I'm talking about finishes from the previous year.
14:54Last note for Zay Flowers with Lamar Jackson active.
14:57He was half PPR's wide receiver 10 on a per game basis, 29% target share.
15:01So both of these guys have upside versus where they currently are at wide receiver 17, wide receiver 18.
15:07Like easy, easily. Either one of these guys can finish the wide receiver nine this year.
15:11I think round four is the most interesting round in fantasy football right now.
15:15I mean, it begins with T-Mac. Then it goes to Zay and Garrett Wilson that we talked about.
15:21You get the Luther Burden stuff from last year.
15:23Luther Burden's in this one. And that brings us to our next duo that we're going to discuss here.
15:29The round four running backs and Cam Skadaboo, who's the seventh pick of the fourth round.
15:34And then Bucky Irving one spot after. We got some Bucky Irving news.
15:38Let's talk about that. But which one, just overall, are you selecting earlier?
15:41It was Cam Skadaboo for me going into this.
15:44And then after doing all the notes, it was very clearly Cam Skadaboo.
15:48It's the same exact running back rotation as it was this past season.
15:52From week two before he dislocated his ankle, he was the RB9 and RB15 usage.
15:56He was top 10 in receptions per game. On top of that, it's a PPR, half PPR.
16:01It doesn't really matter. He's a big dude. He's going to be the goal line back.
16:06And then we had Jackson Dart talk about it that, quote, we're just going to keep giving it to Cam Skadaboo until they can stop it.
16:14That's from hanging around Harbaugh through this offseason. So Malik Nabors has some injury concerns early on this season.
16:19Cam Skadaboo seems like he's on track for week one.
16:22We can get into the dislocated ankle and the history of that.
16:26I project him to start week one, not get quite as much volume, not be quite as explosive as he was as a rookie.
16:33And still, his price tag versus where he was finishing and ranking last year, it's a pretty steep discount.
16:39So we'll track the injury news. But for right now, I'm buying.
16:42Let's talk Cam Skadaboo some more. Okay. 90, 104, 110, and 94 yards.
16:46And there's four full games out there. But I also don't want to look over this injury, like dislocated his right ankle,
16:53fractured his fibula, ruptured his deltoid ligament. Again, I'm going to bring up our buddy Ryan Heath over at Fantasy Points.
16:59He's going to join the show sometime this summer.
17:01It's always a fantastic episode. He went through, you know, four fancy assets over the last few years that also suffered this fractured fibula.
17:09Anywhere from Tony Pollard to Mark Andrews to Chris Godwin to Isaiah Bacheco all declined their fancy points per opportunity in the next season.
17:16And it wasn't just a small drop down. It was a massive drop down.
17:20And also with the Giants and just through the media, how they operated, reportedly were interested in Ken Walker, Travis Achan, and Jeremiah Love.
17:27They landed on none of them. And they added nothing to that running back room.
17:31So on paper, that makes me want to buy into Cam Skadaboo.
17:35But Hayden, to answer the question of who I'd want between Skadaboo and Bucky Irving, the answer is neither.
17:40Like, I want to draft Ladd McConkie in this round.
17:43And if he's off the board, then I'm going to draft Colson Loveland.
17:47And that's how I'm going to operate here in round four.
17:51I think it's totally fine. I love Colson Loveland, Ladd McConkie, all these wide receivers.
17:55I think with Cam Skadaboo, we are also adding Francis Maunoa, a blocking guard to the equation.
18:00This team could not block well inside the red area.
18:03And Jackson Dart going into his second season. So there's like some upside here where the Giants offense goes from one of
18:09the worst last year to pretty functional. I think that would kind of offset some of the dislocated ankle stuff.
18:15And it is a small sample size of this type of injury that we're going off of.
18:20Like you said, though, it's like four for four.
18:23That's been pretty bad. So I would be pretty surprised if he's a fantasy RB1.
18:28But that's what he was for a big chunk of September and October last year.
18:32Okay, let's talk Bucky Irving on this. So first, we got word at OTAs that opened today for the Buccaneers that Bucky Irving was not there.
18:40That is not a surprise. He has not been cleared from his offseason shoulder surgery.
18:44The injury that he suffered last year, missed a handful of games along with an ankle, did play through it a little
18:51bit towards the end of last year. But again, we got the offseason shoulder surgery.
18:55So that was one report. And then we got a double down here from head coach Todd Bowles, who, you know, is
19:02not very extravagant in front of the microphone. But he simply put that Bucky Irving is expected to return sometime, quote, during summer or fall.
19:09Bucky is never incognito, but he's coming along fine.
19:12He's working out and rough. We expect him sometime back in the summer or fall.
19:16And, you know, we look forward to him when he gets back.
19:20Your instant reaction is what? Not good. He just makes me nervous because he's 5'10", 195 pounds.
19:25Last year was a really bad season for him.
19:27I thought as a rookie, he looked like one of the best running backs in the NFL.
19:32I don't think that's an exaggeration. The numbers backed that up.
19:36And then last year, out of 66 qualifying running backs, he was 65th in rush yards over expected.
19:41And then 64th in EPA per carry. Like only Alvin Kamara was basically worse than he was.
19:46And then he had the injuries. It was a foot injury.
19:49And then after a couple weeks of him not returning, Adam Schefter reports, it's actually the shoulder injury that's the bigger deal.
19:56And it really, really delayed it from week four all the way to week 13.
20:00And then when he came back from week 13, he was not getting the goal line carries.
20:05Like that went to Sean Tucker. They were still using Rashad White.
20:09And they just upgraded Rashad White up to Kenny Gainwell this offseason.
20:12Sean Tucker is still the biggest guy in the backfield over there.
20:16And then he had to have a follow-up surgery.
20:19And he's still not back yet. So this one's making me pretty nervous.
20:22I dropped him down to about 59th overall. I think that he's a flex play at this point.
20:28And I just think that that RB11 stretch as a rookie from week six all the way through, I think that's in the rear view.
20:35That's a Liam Cohen ago. That's shoulder injuries ago.
20:38And I just think the Bucs offense right now does not project nearly as well as it did during that sense.
20:44I mean, I went back and watched Bucky Irving.
20:47And I still think he has the juice. Like he still forces missed tackles.
20:51He still attacks the edges of defenders and they can be 100 pounds heavier than him near the line of scrimmage.
20:57And, you know, he still breaks that contact. I still think he's a really good player.
21:02I am just really nervous about how he's being not pigeonholed, but viewed by play callers ever since the Liam Cohen stuff during his rookie season.
21:09I mean, zero touches inside of the five-yard line last season and played just two snaps in that area of the field.
21:16His nine rushing touchdowns in the NFL, six of them have been six yards or less.
21:21And so if he's not getting those carries six yards or less, then the touchdown market is just going to be extremely, extremely negative for him.
21:28And on top of that, you would think some of his size is going to be out there in pure passing situations.
21:35That also hasn't been the case. Like that has previously gone to Rashad White and almost certainly that'll go to Kenny Gainwell.
21:41So even before missing OTAs today because of surgery and Todd Bowles' comments, there are very easy factors to poke holes in
21:48Bucky Irving's just outlook from, you know, a being on the field standpoint.
21:52Despite how much I really do like him as a runner and how much I believe in this offensive line as being
21:58a potential top five or top three unit in the league.
22:02Yeah, offensive line's got to stay healthy. That was a problem last year.
22:05Baker's got to play better. That was a problem this last year.
22:09And then if you kind of just like take the average of that, the Bucks right now, 17th in projected points this
22:15season when Bucky Irving was balling out and that Liam Cohn offense and what they were top five for a lot of that season.
22:23So I do think that the Kenny Gainwell stuff, I don't think it's a bit like, I think they're extremely serious about this game.
22:30$10 million guaranteed $7 million per season over the next two years.
22:33Like that's like real money in the running back market out there.
22:37So I can see this being a three-way committee where Bucky Irving's like the foundation back.
22:41Sean Tucker's the goal line back. And then Kenny Gainwell does not come off the field in any of the passing situations.
22:48Your offense got to be really sweet and you got to be really good to kind of overcome a three-way committee right now.
22:55So I think the sixth round somewhere around there, I feel comfortable with them.
22:59But like someone like Basial Tootin to me, I think that his pathway to completely taking over his backfield is clearer to me at this point.
23:07Same thing with DeAndre Swift. We'll get to some of these guys in a minute here.
23:11So I moved him down that full tier with the news that he might miss the next couple of months here.
23:18Yeah. During and after his rookie season, the Bucks just absolutely loved Bucky Irving.
23:22Like Jason Light talks about how he's the first one in, last one out, all that type of stuff.
23:27But then if you read between the lines during last season, when he dealt with all these injuries, something was up behind the scenes.
23:34Like something mentally was not correct. And they've talked about that.
23:38And that's unfortunate. Like it seems like he took it really hard that he couldn't be out there and playing football because
23:44that's what he does for a living. That's where he's being used to during his time at Oregon and obviously in the NFL.
23:51Hopefully it doesn't carry over into this season. Because I think Bucky can still be sensational.
23:56But at the same time, we also have to remember that Zach Robinson was part of the group that also gave Tyler
24:02Algier a bunch of goal line touches ahead of B.
24:05John Robinson. So it's not out of the ordinary that that could go to Sean Tucker or Kenny Gainwell on top of it.
24:12Underdog projections right now. Pickham lobby 5.5 rushing touchdowns for Bucky Irving.
24:16Like fourth round, 5.5 rushing touchdowns. That's that's tough to sell.
24:19Yeah. You mentioned that Bucky Irving is not the biggest boy in the backfield.
24:23Wasn't the biggest boy in the backfield last year?
24:26It certainly was. And that was the guy that you wanted to draft.
24:30Yeah. By the way, we're about 10 followers short on Instagram of hitting our next milestone.
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26:02Interesting debate here. Two veterans of the game. The third pick of the fifth round, that is Terry McLaurin of the Washington Commanders.
26:09One pick after that is Devontae Adams. One guy had a down 2025 holdout.
26:13We have seen how, you know, that impacts the rest of the season.
26:17Quarterbacks got banged up. He got banged up versus Devontae Adams, who, you know, led all wide receivers in receiving touchdowns.
26:23So which two of these guys do you want to draft more?
26:27I view them very similarly. I do not have them far apart after doing all of my notes here.
26:32I am leaning towards Terry McLaurin. He's had 23 games with Jaden Daniels over the last two seasons.
26:38He's the wide receiver 14 on wide receiver 26 usage on a per game basis.
26:42That's been full PPR and a half. PPR is even better than that.
26:46He's a touchdown magnet. And since he's had a lot of that production, the Commanders have lost Debo Samuel and Zach Ertz.
26:52They replaced him with Chigakwonkwo. Antonio Williams, who I kind of like, but he's a third round slot Z receiver.
26:58And then maybe Brandon Ayuk like on August 1st, if he wants to show up and the 49ers want to release him from being a hostage.
27:06So this looks like it should be a fantastic season for Terry McLaurin to have a huge target share.
27:12And I think that Jaden Daniels should bounce back this next season as well.
27:16They have both their tackle spots kind of figured out.
27:19I don't like that they lost their center, but in general, the Commanders are 16th in projected points.
27:24And I think that that's kind of taking the average of if Jaden Daniels misses times versus stays healthy because they were
27:31top 10 in points when he was a freaking rookie out there.
27:34So looking at it, 949 receiving yards in the pick and lobby.
27:38Devontae Adams is just under 800. I do think that touchdowns probably will go towards Devontae Adams.
27:43This remains pretty close to me. I don't mind either of them in the fifth round.
27:48I'm way, way, way on the side of Terry McLaurin here.
27:51And it's like a no contest for me. I'm going to have Terry McLaurin way ahead of where he's being drafted and ranked here among wide receivers.
27:59Again, you can kind of explain, I think, is 2025.
28:02The holdout, which is something we need to keep in mind with all of these wide receivers and quarterback relationships, as we've
28:08seen from, you know, the CD Lamb to the T Higgins to now the Terry McLaurin, the Brandon Iuke stuff too.
28:14Again, the quarterbacks got banged up. But what stands out to me is when David Blau took over as the team's play
28:21caller, literally his first quote was, how do we get Terry McLaurin 10 targets per game?
28:26And as you recite the depth chart, looking at it, it's quite easy to do.
28:30Yeah, really. Major, major questions. And so you and I talk about projected point totals and you put it well that they're projected for the 16th.
28:38The commanders are at around 23.3. Compare that to the Rams who are number one at 26 and a half.
28:44At the same time, the Rams do have other players that can get them fancy points.
28:48I mean, you look at the commanders. It's Jane Daniels.
28:51It's Terry McLaurin. The backfield's a question. The tight ends are a question.
28:55And all the other wide receivers are a question.
28:58So are you damn right that I'm listening to coach speak here in May and June?
29:03A hundred percent. I am an offense that's going to take and pull some strings from the Ben Johnson schematics that we've seen.
29:10A hundred percent. I think Terry McLaurin, who we have seen graduate from kind of a big play downfield artist to also
29:16being a real asset inside the 10 and inside the 20 yard line.
29:20I just think this offense is going to run through Terry in the passing game.
29:24Yeah, I missed that quote. I'm going to add that to my blurb here.
29:28That's a really good one. I find this entire tier pretty flat.
29:32Yeah, I think that goes like all the way up to like T Higgins, AJ Brown, Garrett Wilson.
29:37I think it's like all the way up there.
29:40Could Terry McLaurin match those receivers that I just named?
29:43I think absolutely is the case. And that's to me the reason why I want to be drafting Travis HN up there
29:49and then getting my wide receivers kind of in this territory just because I feel like they're pretty flat in general.
29:56Like I think I just mentioned that Garrett Wilson is like just over a thousand yards.
30:00Terry McLaurin's at freaking nine hundred and fifty here.
30:03So I think I'm pretty flat here to kind of target right now.
30:07Let's talk about Devante Adams a little bit more.
30:10Don't get me wrong. 14 touchdowns is incredible. Nine of those were four yards or less.
30:14I watched them all researching for this. I swear all of them, maybe not one, but all of them were bailed running place.
30:21And that can go here or there. Like, yeah, if you leave an isolated coverage, we saw it with Aaron Rodgers.
30:27We saw it with Matthew Stafford. Stafford did the same thing with Odell Beckham back in the day that, oh, you're going to give me that look.
30:35I'm going to trust the back shoulders, the jump balls, the quick slants, all that type of stuff.
30:41But at the same time, that wasn't the play that was called.
30:44And that can easily shift in the opposite direction.
30:47He was the wide receiver 31 in yards per game.
30:50And I can't get out of my head that Sean McVay was open and honest with everyone that, hey, if we were
30:56a little bit more in on this A.J. Brown trade that's coming up here that, hey, Devante, we would have gotten rid of you.
31:03Like we were looking to trade you if that was the case, if we could bring in A.J.
31:09Brown. So in the back of my mind, I'm wondering if Sean McVay has kind of already seen a decline here from the 34 year old Devante Adams.
31:17And just a pure series of series impact, like from a yards perspective, moving the chains.
31:22And no doubt in my mind, he can still be a huge asset when we get to a condensed field.
31:28But I just think like the R word, the regression word might hit Devante Adams more than any other player in the league this season.
31:35Yeah. 0.76 touchdowns per game inside the 20 yard line on a 27% target share.
31:40Like that's like in his own category. 28 in zone targets.
31:43That might be like the most ever we've ever seen.
31:46Yeah, it's really it's really ridiculous. And then outside of the red zone, 18% target share, 0% screen rate share on that.
31:52And then his average depth of target outside the red zone was at 15.6 yards down the field.
31:58That was actually third highest. So what's happened in this offense is Puka Naku is going to get all the gimmies.
32:04They're going to run the ball plenty. And when they get down to the one or two yard line, they might throw it up to him.
32:12But otherwise, Devante Adams is more in a downfield boom bust role.
32:15And you kind of felt that last year. And maybe that's why he was tearing his hamstring every other week.
32:21But I view him more boom bust on a week to week basis nowadays than I ever did before.
32:27All that said, there is still a pathway for this thing to really pay off.
32:31Like what happens if Puka misses time? And then he's the one that stays healthy for a month of the season.
32:37We'll be ranking him as like the wide receiver six in a given week.
32:41The Rams are still projected for the most points, like you said.
32:45So I view him as I think the most boom bust wide receiver three in fantasy this year is Devante Adams.
32:51I went with Terry McLaurin. He feels a little bit safer.
32:54I do think that Devante Adams could reach a pretty crazy ceiling for this price tag.
32:59But I do think it is. We should factor in the hamstring.
33:03Matthew Stafford's back, his age, Matthew Stafford's age. And then those Sean McVay kind of quotes and kind of bump him down a tier.
33:10He's super volatile. That's wide receiver 25 and 26 on the board here.
33:14And yeah, we went through the depth chart of the Washington Commanders behind Puka Nakua and Devante Adams.
33:19It's not like there's much in terms of wide receivers for the Rams here.
33:23We're talking Xavier Smith, Kanata Mumfield. Obviously, Jordan Whittington has filled in for both on top of that.
33:28Instead of taking a wide receiver, you know, they drafted Ty Simpson, CU in 2028.
33:33And, you know, another tight end in Max Clare.
33:36So I even wonder if they're going to lean even more into this 13 personnel work.
33:40And if that's the case, then you would at least assume that Puka Nakua would be on the field versus Devante Adams.
33:47But who knows? They get weird. They get weird.
33:49And by the way, Puka has been very weird.
33:52That's putting it mildly over the last calendar year.
33:55Yeah, I can see him finishing as a wide receiver 10 this year.
33:59I don't think it's the most likely scenario by any means.
34:02I can see him as finishing as a wide receiver 42.
34:05I mean, the range of outcomes here for Devante Adams is really wide.
34:09Yeah. And look, we drafted a ton of Devante Adams this past season.
34:13A major part of it was the touchdown projection that you and I were on considerably.
34:18So I'm not going to say I've totally changed my tune and I'm totally out on Devante Adams.
34:23I'm just going to rank Terry McLaurin higher than the wide receiver 25 of what he's being drafted at this current moment.
34:29Okay, let's stay in round five. We've got two more scenarios here for you.
34:34The first pick of the fifth round is Dave Montgomery.
34:37The fifth pick is DeAndre Swift. Two former Lions running backs crossing in the night here.
34:41I don't want to derail you, Hayden, but quick question.
34:44Is it in the realm of possibility that these guys should be drafted ahead of the other running back names that we just talked about?
34:52And Cam Scadaboo and Bucky Irving. I have Bucky Irving after.
34:55I think Scadaboo is kind of right in the range and I'll be moving these guys up and down based off the Scadaboo injury.
35:02I think that DeAndre Swift seems extremely safe for this price tag.
35:06Last year, he was half PPRs running back 15 or running back 18 usage.
35:10The Bears were ninth in points per game. This year, Chicago's projected for number 10 scoring per game.
35:15I think there's a chance that that's even underselling it.
35:18If Caleb Williams and Ben Johnson take another step, they had to rotate their center because of an unexpected retirement.
35:24But for the most part, that offensive line looks really good again.
35:27And then I thought DeAndre Swift with Ben Johnson, he just looked like a little less chaotic.
35:32He was actually 10th in rushing success rate. I think a lot of that is because of the scheme and the offensive line and Ben Johnson.
35:40But Swift felt a little more consistent out there.
35:43So Kyle Menungai is going to be the secondary back behind him.
35:46But even when Menungai was out there for 30, 40% of the snaps, he was still an RB2.
35:52So I don't think that Menungai is just going to completely steal DeAndre Swift's job.
35:56It's a contract year. He's only 27 years old.
35:59I think that Swift's film has just gotten better every single year.
36:02And I'm not going to be fading this Chicago Bears offense this year.
36:06So to me, he's kind of being priced closer to his floor.
36:10I'm at 42nd overall. His ADP is 53rd overall.
36:12After doing the research on this, I just wanted to keep drafting him.
36:16I like both these running back picks. And I will rank them ahead of Bucky Irving and Cam Scadaboo when we unleash those.
36:23Yeah. Prior to last season, you know, you've been in the show with me for over five years at this point.
36:29I was not a DeAndre Swift guy. Every team that he was on, he was replaced.
36:34And those backfields greatly improved. But then we got to week six of last year.
36:39He was running back nine after that week five by for the rest of the season.
36:43Running back nine in points per game. And if you looked at it and you watch like we did on stats versus
36:50film, it's because Ben Johnson and this offense looked at which runs were successful for which types of runners that they had.
36:56And they really figured it out. I mean, they focused in on those and that allowed DeAndre Swift to have the highest
37:03yards per touch since the 2022 season for him.
37:05And he produced a run of 10 or more yards on 13 and a half percent of his runs, which ranks sixth in the league.
37:13That's from the great Rich Rebar. So look, DeAndre Swift.
37:16No one's ever like a swift guy anymore. This is exactly where I want him in.
37:21It's the same exact backfield that we got last year in Mononga and DeAndre Swift.
37:25And sure, didn't Mononga get more playing time as a season went along?
37:29A hundred percent. And DeAndre Swift didn't play over 60 percent of snaps outside of one game after that bye week.
37:35At the same time, you can still play less than 60 percent of snaps and still finishes the running back nine points
37:42per game if your offense is freaking awesome. And I still expect the Chicago Bears offense to be freaking awesome.
37:47Yeah, I mean, the scheme is like you have Jonah Jackson at right guard, Darnell Wright at right tackle, just run right behind them.
37:55And like those guys are just pushing guys out of the way.
37:58So he just feels very insulated here. I'm still a fan of like Kyle Mononga at his price tag, too.
38:04If one of the other guys gets injured, the other ones would be projected top 12 on a week to week basis.
38:11So I thought this to me was clearly DeAndre Swift over David Montgomery.
38:14I think Montgomery is closer to fine. I have more concerns that Montgomery kind of just falls off of a cliff more so than DeAndre Swift.
38:22David Montgomery was like pretty efficient last year, but the offensive line difference between the Lions versus the Texans is pretty drastic.
38:29And I think that Woody Marks is not going to completely go away, at least on passing situations.
38:34And I just don't think that the Texans offensive line and scheme is dialed into a point where I'm expecting like CJ
38:40Stroud to take his game to like the next level.
38:43So he's only got five and a half rushing touchdowns in the pick and lobby right now.
38:48That feels pretty high for the 49th overall pick.
38:51So I'm closer into like the back half of this round where I had DeAndre Swift at the front half of the
38:58round before it bears projected for the 10th most points per game this year at 24.5.
39:02The Texans are down at 19, but Hey, and it goes back to the conversation that we had in the quarterback ranking
39:09show that they're actually favored in 13 games this season, but they're projected for the 19 most points.
39:14And that is the case where your defense is so good that you just don't have to score as much on offense
39:21because everyone else, you know, the commanders, for example, are projected for the 16th most points or three ahead yet.
39:27They're favored in just five games so far right now on Dave Montgomery.
39:30This is your traditional three, four years ago, like running back dead zone profile in that he's not really flashy anymore.
39:37He's been around the block quite a few times yet.
39:40We are just imparting this massive workload on him and an offense that we do like.
39:44Uh, and we know that if it's, everything is a volume based draft pick and round five, that can crumble for like
39:51a whole bunch of reasons for one. Like if the Texans offensive lines investments don't pay off, then he's going to be
39:57a, you know, volatile touchdown dependent pick. Now, if they do pay off, then he's going to be an extremely solid selection
40:04because you would expect him to again, see the vast majority of the high value touches in terms of touchdown scoring opportunities.
40:10The Texans were 29th in red zone touchdown rate last season, despite being 18th and red zone drives.
40:16And Woody marks led that team with 44% of red zone carries and he scored just two overall scores.
40:21So if like this team is just better, the offensive line and how they've worked at gels, uh, you can see Dave
40:28Montgomery having eight rushing scores, I think inside of the 15 yard line this year.
40:32I still think that would just make him the running back 15 is like kind of like to me his upside case.
40:39I didn't look at the names after him, like Deandre Swift, Quintra Jenkins, uh, Jadarian price, facial two.
40:44Those are all young guys. I think have a chance to, to pop off or in Deandre Swift's case, just a better offense in general.
40:52And I was kind of looking at it. Like Chiba Hubbard's goes 20 picks after David Montgomery right now, like functionally, what really is the difference?
40:59But between those guys, I still understand like why David Montgomery is up, uh, in the beginning part of this first round,
41:06especially like on underdog where everybody wants the upside appeals.
41:09I just think that David Montgomery's like, he's not gonna have a bunch of training camp buzz.
41:14Right. I think that a lot of the guys kind of going after him.
41:18Like I would guess tootin is going to go ahead of David Montgomery when we're drafting on labor day out here.
41:24So yeah. Do you understand me? He's being selected Montgomery is, is the running back 22.
41:29And as you said, for a platform that loves to draft for upside in year one and year two guys, uh, Quinn,
41:35Sean Jenkins going as running back 24, Jadarian price going as running back 25.
41:40Uh, and then Basial tootin going as running back 26.
41:42So it's a fascinating conversation. All right, let's close this thing out with a wide receiver duo in round seven.
41:48And that brings us to Parker Washington. Who's the second pick of the seventh round wide receiver 36.
41:54Then going down the 10th pick of the seventh round is Jane Reed as wide receiver 39.
41:59Uh, the reason I wanted to package these two guys together, Hayden is this is the battle of the three wide receiver sets in the same round.
42:07Uh, and ones that, you know, have gone through, let's say interesting, uh, career progressions so far.
42:12So what do you have to say about either Jane Reed or Parker Washington?
42:16I have Parker Washington for now. I do want to spend a lot more time watching all of his routes because it
42:22was such a fascinating season from him. So we'll have to get back to Parker Washington more in depth later on the
42:29summer, but from week seven on he was PPR is wide receiver 18 on wide receiver 15 usage.
42:34He got there on a 21% target share. That was the wide receiver 21 over that span.
42:39That was a full tier above Brian Thomas, a full tier above Jacoby Myers.
42:43He's also 24 years old comes from Penn state.
42:46And when I was watching him last season, he was routing up everybody.
42:50I mean, that was like inside the slot. It was on the outside on occasion as well.
42:55He made made a couple of acrobatic grabs on top of it.
42:59There was no part of his game where I was like, Oh, he's busted coverage.
43:03He's just like wide open. So I've, I'm anticipating when I do go back in there and just like focus on him
43:09this off season, I will have even more positive things to say.
43:13And I think that Jane and Reed, unfortunately he seems more typecasted into his very specific role in a balanced offense.
43:19I can at least dream that Liam Cohen views Parker Washington differently, or it's just a more pass heavy offense in general.
43:26So if both of these guys are good, I'm just going to go with Jacksonville over green Bay.
43:31It might be because of, you know, how he came into the NFL and also just not being very productive in his first two years.
43:38But Parker Washington is one of the most, I think, difficult players to get a hold of in terms of how does
43:45he fit in the wider seat room? Because as you said, if you look at week 16, you know, scoring 23 and
43:52a half fancy points, 17, 15 week 18, 17.2, and they get in the playoffs and it's 20 fancy points.
43:57Balled out. Yeah. I mean, the final four games, including the playoffs were outstanding.
44:02And then you go and watch the tape. The first two catches versus the Cincinnati Bengals in the second game of the
44:08season, like really encapsulate who he is. The first one, there's a motion of another wide receiver.
44:13It places Parker Washington in this lot, the cornerback on the out route undercuts this outside breaking route.
44:18The ball is thrown high, still giving him a chance.
44:21And he dunks on the corner, like at his size at five, 10, 204 pounds.
44:26He has the athleticism and the hands to play big.
44:29And then his second catch full speed motion into the slot at the snap crossing route, his athleticism pops.
44:34You gain like 39 yards on it. And to me, you've seen the refinement grow each time he gets more and more and more opportunities.
44:42So again, if you want to dream, if you put the two names on the board or just watching wide receiver tape
44:48and everything's blacked out, I think you can make the case that Parker Washington like might be a better wide receiver than Jane Reed at this point.
44:56I think you could also like question, Hey, if we look back in the 2026 season and Parker Washington as a better wide receiver than Brian Thomas Jr.
45:05Is that's also a possibility based on what Brian Thomas Jr.
45:08showed last year at the same time, the other half of your brain says, okay, the wide receiver depth chart, Jacoby Myers isn't coming off the field.
45:16Then you have Brian Thomas Jr. Who was excellent production during his rookie season and brings things to the table that Parker Washington doesn't.
45:23And then this Travis Hunter wide receiver stuff that you and I really like still will not die in terms of the
45:29media narrative and how to fit him into the offense.
45:32And so if that's the case and there's a lot to go around now compared to the Packers wide receiver room, which
45:39really feels like it's just a trio at this point.
45:42Finally, after about five seasons of doing this. Yeah, it is really crazy to look at it.
45:47Like the Parker Washington was the wide receiver two over his last four games of the season.
45:52And then Jaden Reed was the wide receiver 43.
45:55So like on the most recent sample size, it's, it's truly not even close.
45:59I think it's a good point though, because we're going to have a very consolidated receiving group in green Bay.
46:05Now that Don Tavian Wicks is gone. Romeo Dobbs is gone.
46:08And then Tucker crafts also coming off of an injury.
46:11I'm guessing Tucker crafts can be out there week one, but you just never know.
46:15So that doesn't answer the two wide receiver set one wide receiver set questions that we have with Jaden Reed.
46:21So it's like on a per route basis balls out, you have 18 routes and you average three yards per route.
46:27Like still like that's not really moving the needle.
46:30So it's difficult. I want to like this kind of tier of Parker, Washington, Jaden Reed, I'll throw Xavier worthy in there.
46:37Josh downs. Like there's a lot of these wide receivers who are like traditionally undersized and they're just like not going to get it done.
46:44We like their tape. I do think because all the running backs are kind of gone by that point, I've been drafting
46:51a lot of this tier and just hoping for the best.
46:54And that's really burns us in the past. I will say we're down like two rounds versus where these guys typically have been drafted.
47:01And all the running backs that I used to really like in this range are now in the fourth and fifth round.
47:07So I think this is kind of the year where it's like, all right, give me the efficient small wide receivers and just hope for the best.
47:15Yeah. I'm hoping you have at least two running backs by the time the seventh round rolls because that's remontoring Tony Pollard,
47:22Jalen Warren and RG Harvey in this area. I guess my conversation, my question to you is if we're talking about questions
47:28of finally graduating into two wide receiver sets, which by the way, Reeves always points out that through three NFL seasons, Jane
47:35Reed has run a pass route on only eight plays in one or two wide receiver sets, eight total plays in three NFL seasons.
47:42And by the way, the Packers were in 11 personnel 60% of the time last year, which was like 18th, 16th overall.
47:49And you know, they might run more 12 personnel if it's Tucker craft and the other tight end whose name big Luke.
47:55Yes. There you go. Back to my question. I understand that Jordan love is the Packers quarterback and Daniel Jones hopefully is the Colts quarterback.
48:02But if you want to take a risk of which of these wide receivers graduates into two wide receiver sets, why not
48:09just take Josh Downs two rounds after where Jane Reed is going as the third pick in the ninth run versus the 10th pick in the seventh.
48:17Yep. I see the same way. I'll say the same thing with Xavier worthy and I'll even make the case.
48:23Matthew golden, like Matthew golden, I think has a better chance of being in two wide receiver sets than Jaden Reed.
48:29You get a what 30 pick discount on that too.
48:32So I don't have anything overly negative with Jaden Reed aside from like the snaps.
48:37I kind of have him ranked a little bit after this range, but nothing too crazy.
48:41I just think that this tier of wide receivers goes down like four rounds and I just want to be kind of price sensitive with them.
48:49A couple of final stats here. When Parker, Washington Myers and BTJ were on the field, Parker, Washington team high 31% target chair, 3.17 yards per route run.
48:57So again, when they're an 11 personnel, Parker, Washington is the best wide receiver on the field, but he also might have this two wide receivers at 12%.
49:06personnel stuff, which again, we know Britain strange and then drafting board Kurcher in the second round of his 98 targets last
49:12year, just 12 were in 12 personnel last season for the Jacks.
49:16That's wild. They had over 30% target rate. There was three wide receivers last year with three wide receivers on the field that they had over 30%.
49:24It was Jackson Smith and Jigba Pook and Nakua Monra St.
49:27Brown. And then with those two other guys, if Parker, Washington would be the fourth insane, insane stuff.
49:32Now there's also like insane numbers for Jane Reed.
49:35If you want to go back and just look over what he's done over his first few seasons in, in the NFL,
49:41like over 2000 yards and 17 touchdowns in their first few seasons, he's up there with some of the best names ever among wider season.
49:49I do think that's goes to Lathor being able to script some really cool main touch plays.
49:54Yep. Um, and I kind of feel like we've lost a little bit of that juice from Jane Reed as we saw during his first couple of years.
50:02Yep. Lots of injuries too, to keep track of, but yeah, I don't mind taking like a Packers flyer kind of in this range.
50:09I just think, is it Tucker craft, Jaden Reed or Matthew golden at cost?
50:13And I'm kind of leaning towards the other two over read.
50:17That's going to do it. Hopefully you enjoyed this episode.
50:20Uh, hopefully you want us to do more. Let us know in the chat down below in the comments down below, if
50:26you did, uh, and some other, let's say draft conundrums that you have this or that crossroads, uh, selections.
50:32And, uh, we'll be sure to hit on them, uh, in a couple of weeks before we get out of here, they
50:38want to bring this up from hope who works over on the draft game side of underdog.
50:43She has a heavy hand in every single wind puppy that comes out every single best ball mania, uh, hope's been at
50:50underdog for multiple years, uh, cannot say enough good things, uh, about her in terms of meeting up when we get to,
50:56uh, any of these draft games, offsites and just underdog offsites in general.
51:00So she's going through some medical things. Uh, I'll link this down in the description below.
51:05So at the very least, if you could, um, retweet this post and just help spread the word, uh, that would be awesome.
51:12Yep. Hope is so great for the community. And then on top of that, she's just like a wonderful person.
51:18Like so nice, like just loves to chat ball.
51:20And, uh, just somebody like whenever I'm on these retreats underdog, like I go out of my way to go chat up with, with hope.
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