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0:50Fred Meyer, fresh for everyone. Never again, never again will we let such an obvious league winning pick like Jackson Smith-Njigba slip out from underneath our nose.
0:59That's why today's show is all about identifying the six perfect fantasy picks that are still out there that aren't getting enough attention.
1:06And to guide us through all that is the great Rich Rebar of Fancy Points.
1:11Ryan, you did it again, my friend. You gave us another banger of an article this summer.
1:16Thank you, man. Yeah, I really appreciate that. It's always, you never know like which articles are going to really get a good response.
1:24And I was not expecting this one to honestly, this was very much like I'm nerding out about this topic.
1:30I'm just thinking about personnel changes and stuff and how it could affect fantasy football.
1:35Like I really thought this would be my little hobby horse thing and that it wouldn't like catch on the way it did.
1:42But yeah, really happy with the response. And yeah, just I as you said, I just never want to make the mistake
1:49of missing Jackson Smith and Jigba like I did last year.
1:52So that really kind of inspired this whole research and this entire piece.
1:57Yeah, I think he was going as wide receiver 15 last year on underdog.
2:01I had him ranked exactly as wide receiver 15.
2:04And then as soon as the season started to unfold, you realize I was way too low on him and I could
2:11have easily just a couple wide receiver spots ahead of that had him on every single team.
2:16And I love this topic because we've already hit it in a couple times.
2:21This is like the deepest we're going to go in at all summer long.
2:25It's this perfect intersection of how real life football can then impact fantasy scoring for a position that is kind of go
2:32undergoing some change as we've seen it in recent years.
2:35And not just that it's not just identifying which teams this could happen based on last year's numbers.
2:41It's also predicting which ones have invested so much in the tight end or fullback rooms, which then minimizes how many wide receivers are on the field.
2:49And so that leads like a prediction element on top of this as well.
2:54So like, again, the lead that you had here was, you know, Jason went from rarely playing in two wide receiver sets
3:01last year to 51% of his production coming from two wide receiver sets in 2025, which made up just 38% of his total routes.
3:08So was that it? Was it just missing out on Jason?
3:12Was the reason why you want to write this article?
3:15It was partially that so that that had been in my mind just because I was I've been a Clint Kubiak believer
3:22and booster, including last offseason, but I ended up just being on Ken Walker.
3:26I think we discussed that on the show that we were all very high on Ken Walker.
3:32And it would have worked, Ryan, if we just got, you know, the playoff usage all season long.
3:38Exactly. Yeah. So whatever vindicated on that. Not really, but we can cope.
3:42But yeah, the other like big kind of Kubiak ism that I knew about last offseason, but just didn't put enough stock
3:49in didn't think about enough with regard to JSN was, yeah, the condensed routes just in terms of he would drop back
3:56a lot with only two wide receivers on the field.
3:59That increases the efficiency of whatever wide receivers remain.
4:02I have the numbers laid out at the top of the article, but yeah, it's roughly a 30% increase just for going
4:09from three receivers on the field to two receivers on the field in terms of fantasy points per route run, just because
4:16it's easier to earn targets against fullbacks and blocking tight ends and such.
4:20So, yeah, that was part of why I wrote it.
4:23But also, we saw in the NFL draft that teams are taking sort of the 12 personnel and heavy personnel revolution very, very seriously.
4:30We see even I'm not sure that every team is doing it correctly necessarily.
4:35Maybe we'll talk about they're going to try. Yeah, the Jaguars or whatever.
4:39But yeah, they're they're all trying. They're drafting blocking tight ends very early.
4:43It is going to be at least a thing that NFL teams are trying to do this year.
4:49So, yeah, it is kind of left to us to diagnose and figure out how all of it's going to shake out on each team.
4:57And that's really what I tried to do with this article for any of the teams that I had a good feeling
5:04about or that I could make a good like fantasy relevant argument about in terms of a shift from 11 personnel to 12 personnel or vice versa.
5:12Once again, we're going to show some graphics from the article.
5:16Obviously, that is linked in the description down below.
5:19I really encourage all of you to check it out.
5:22Ryan, you brought a whole bunch of information here for this episode.
5:26And again, we're going to talk about the six or more names that really headline this article.
5:31But laying the foundation, I think, is really important.
5:34And I'm just not going by the information you brought, Ryan.
5:37I did a little bit myself here, too, of digging in research.
5:41So like what I found, the highest percentage of pass attempts in two wide receiver sets or less last season was the Baltimore Ravens around 58 percent.
5:50There were a handful of teams in like the mid 40 percent.
5:53But to me, the biggest changes go into exactly what you're talking about.
5:58The ones the organizations that were near the bottom of the list last year that heavily invested in bigger bodies this offseason.
6:05I mean, the Texans last season, just 74 passes in two wide receiver sets or less.
6:10Then they spent a second round pick on a tight end and also signed Foster Moreau.
6:15The Chargers were 100 pass attempts. They signed Charlie Kolar, David Njoku, Alec Ingold.
6:19The Jaguars, 104. As you said, the infamous already Nate Borker, your selection in round two.
6:24The Jets, 107. Kenyon Sadiq, round one. And the Saints were 24th with 114 pass attempts with two wide receivers or fewer on the field last season.
6:33And they also added Oscar Delp and Noah Fant.
6:36And again, that's anywhere from teams that rank 24th through 32nd.
6:39And that doesn't even include the middle section of of, you know, the NFL last year.
6:44So I'm excited for this. I don't know how we want to start, but should we just dig into some of the
6:51names that you believe could be, quote unquote, this year's Jackson Smith and Jake?
6:56Yeah, let's do it. We can just start with the biggest name, the one that just leapt to me immediately that I
7:02felt the best about as I kind of wrote everyone in this article.
7:07I was like, this is the headliner. It's Ladd McConkie for me.
7:10I think he is the most clearly analogous candidate to be this year's Jackson Smith and Jigba.
7:16The biggest thing is, yes, as you just laid out, they add all of these fullbacks and all these tight ends.
7:22We have the history from Mike McDaniel when he was with the Dolphins was always among the league leaders in terms of
7:29dropping back in sets with two or fewer wide receivers.
7:33Right. We look at the Chargers personnel. Yeah, they add Charlie Kolar, Alec Ingold.
7:37They are clearly building to be a bit heavier.
7:40They're receiving personnel is kind of Ladd McConkie and a bunch of guys that might be good in partial roles.
7:46Trey Harris has his fans. Quentin Johnson has his fans.
7:49But there's no clear second or third receiver that is going to demand, oh, I have to be on the field in 11 personnel.
7:57There have to be three receivers on the field.
8:00It's not clear at all that that's their best way of operating.
8:04So what that means is if Ladd McConkie is the guy that never leaves the field, and as I said, I think
8:11he's the best candidate for that right now on the Chargers, then we can see just a massive efficiency increase from him.
8:18Real life wise, I think McConkie is an excellent player.
8:21We saw that in his rookie season. All of his separation metrics through his rookie year and parts of his year two
8:28were excellent from what we track over at Fantasy Points Data.
8:31And if you just kind of take his first two seasons overall together without like ordering, oh, well, he went from really
8:38good in year one to disappointing us a little bit in year two.
8:42His stats through two seasons are better than Jackson Smith and Jigna's were through his first two seasons.
8:48Like he's been a more productive NFL player over his first two years.
8:52So if we're looking for a year three breakout in terms of has this receiver got into like a production threshold that
8:59we would want to feel OK about a breakout possibly happening, McConkie easily clears that or at least he clears it more than JSN did last year.
9:08So I think the two other big things to kind of watch are, of course, will the Chargers resign Keenan Allen?
9:14I don't think they will. I don't think he fits what McDaniel wants to do.
9:19Allen was a big reason why they were in three and four receiver sets so often last year and spreading it so
9:26much, which is odd for Greg Roman, not what you would have expected.
9:30But I think he kind of forced them to play like that with all these receivers on the field.
9:36And of course, the offensive line is hopefully fingers crossed with the Chargers, as always going to be much healthier.
9:42The yeah, the efficiency splits within without Joe all last year are huge.
9:47So yeah, all of these things come together for me and say, yeah, Ladd McConkie is the most analogous to JSN.
9:53And if you're betting on a receiver in round three, round four to kind of take that leap, he makes the most sense to me.
10:01And a new play caller on top of it, right?
10:04Because we know like a shift just in a play caller's mindset changes how a player gets utilized the year before.
10:11There's so much that you hit on there that I want to really dissect a whole bunch of the pieces.
10:17This time last year, Hayden, I got a lot of heat when we reviewed the second year wide receivers saying Ladd McConkie's tape.
10:25And this is just eye test anecdotal stuff, right?
10:27Was equally as impressive as Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr.
10:31I still believe that from his rookie season. I mean, how easily he separates, how he kind of plays bigger than his
10:38frame than I expected coming out of Georgia was really exciting.
10:41And that led everyone, all of us to willingly draft Ladd McConkie last season as a 21st overall player.
10:47And now we're able to get him as the 41st overall player kind of in the middle of the fourth round territory.
10:54And we know what happened second year, really none of these second year wide receivers really took off as we are previously expecting.
11:02But it goes back to how you are discussing that obviously all wide receivers are more efficient when there are fewer wide receivers on the field.
11:10Again, it makes sense that that one or two wide receivers are better than the tight end two or tight end three
11:17or even fullback one in this case at commanding and drawing a target.
11:21But that's what we're getting here with Michael Daniel, right?
11:24It's not just necessarily two tight ends or three tight ends.
11:28It's also a fullback involved. And it's the one that already knows his offense in Alec Ingold.
11:33So as you wrote, Ladd McConkie only ran 10% of his routes from sets with fewer than three wide receivers this past season.
11:40Comparison, that number was 46% with Michael Daniel with Jalen Waddell out there.
11:44So we are funneling the best pass catcher, hopefully, in Ladd McConkie on this team more and more opportunity and more and
11:51more in those opportunities to be clearly the number one pass catcher on his team.
11:56Yeah, 100%. Yeah, couldn't have said it better myself.
11:59Yeah, that's really what it is to me. There are other receivers you can make kind of similar arguments for, but just
12:06in terms of it being a young player, year three, who has even down to like them being archetype wise thought of
12:13as like, oh, they're kind of more slot type of players.
12:16Like McConkie being able to move to an every down role, win on the outside, which he has like his per route
12:23stats, his separation, all of that on the outside has been great throughout his career.
12:28Even that like piece kind of fits in terms of comparing him to Smith and Jigba.
12:33So, yeah, he's just been my go to in round four, basically.
12:37Just he's the breakout and betting on there. I totally hear you.
12:41Like there are some other round four wide receivers that I like.
12:45And, you know, Terry McLaurin, close to the end of it.
12:48Obviously, Colson Loveland. I'm a big Luther Burden guy named Mecca Bukas in that round.
12:53So round four is just like such, such a much better round to select players and the running backs I have questions about.
13:00So it's like heavy wide receiver or tight end for me in round four.
13:04Two more points on this. I love how you noted that actually Lad McConkie had more production than JSN through two NFL
13:11seasons before the year three breakout, which, you know, it can be easy to forget about that with Jackson Smith and Jigba
13:18heading into his year three season in 2025. One question I did have for you.
13:23We kind of were thrown a wrench or a wrinkle last year in this offense.
13:28And again, that was with Greg Roman. But when they were in single wide receiver sets with multiple tight ends on the
13:35field, Trey Harris was the one that had the most wide receiver usage among any of these guys.
13:41It was kind of split equally between the group after that.
13:44What do you think the odds are that Trey Harris once again owns the 13 personnel looks or 22 personnel looks this season?
13:51Well, I think it's important to differentiate when we're just looking at snap shares in these sets.
13:57Right. Because, yes, Trey Harris was the one receiver in those sets a lot of the time last year.
14:03But that's not always because they're dropping back out of those sets.
14:07Right. A lot of the times that's because we want Trey Harris on the field as a blocker because we're going to
14:14run the ball out of heavy sets and teams overall more often do run the ball out of heavy sets.
14:20What we're looking for is who's going to be on the field when they're actually going to drop back out of the heavy sets.
14:27And that's like from a kind of a bigger picture perspective.
14:31That's like what the advantage or quote unquote like the efficiency hack is here.
14:35Right. This was a big topic with Rams last year with Greg Olson talking about it for weeks at a time.
14:42Like teams figuring out the Rams Seahawks, especially that they can just drop back out of these heavy sets, especially if their
14:49personnel is such that they can run or pass out of them.
14:53It just makes a job of the defense is much harder to match that personnel.
14:58Are you defending the pass? Are you bringing bigger bodies on the field to defend the run?
15:03It's like very, very difficult. So, yes, while Trey Harris maybe is the best run blocker and if they're going to run
15:10out of heavy personnel, it could just be him.
15:13I really think if they're serious about we want to be multiple, be able to run or pass out of these sets
15:20and just be as efficient as possible on offense, then you want your best pass catcher as the wide receiver on the field there.
15:27Love that. Again, last year's show you came on.
15:30We talked about some potential league winners. We brought up Ken Walker at the top of the show.
15:36But let's also not forget that, you know, we discussed Drake May on this episode.
15:41Chris Olave was a player that you and I were relentlessly drafting last year.
15:45I think it was because of, you know, the first down per route run metric that you brought up where that is
15:52kind of the most stable between league winning wide receivers year on year.
15:56So, you know, I think this is a pretty good episode for people to tune into.
16:01OK, I'm relentlessly drafting Ladd McConkie at this time.
16:04Who's next up on your list here that we should be paying attention to?
16:08Let's let's go to Drake London. OK, he's I guess a bit more of an obvious one going in round two, of course.
16:16I and of course, last year he did. He already was somewhat benefiting from more heavy personnel, but we should expect to
16:23see something similar with Tommy Reese as the play caller.
16:26He was calling the plays for the Browns through most of last year has always been kind of a heavier, like more
16:33tight end centric offense, even back when he was at Notre Dame.
16:37So that gives us very likely fewer receivers for Drake London to compete with.
16:41So you're kind of tertiary Falcons receivers, Zachariah Branch, Olamide Zaccheaus, all these guys probably losing out somewhat in terms of snap share.
16:48And when you just look at how London performed in these heavy sets, it was incredible.
16:53I would two or few widers, two or fewer wide receivers on the field last year.
16:59London was up at three point one three yards per outrun point six one fantasy points per outrun.
17:04That was nearly twice as much as any other Falcons receiver on those plays.
17:09And of course, even without like getting into the weeds of heavy personnel, Drake London was amazing last year before he injured his PCL.
17:16He was averaging 19.8 PPR points per game. He was the wide receiver three up until week 11.
17:22Of course, he came back for a few games, which is pretty rare.
17:26Players usually don't come back from PCL injuries. Didn't play that well.
17:30Kyle Pitts was just kind of having the offense run through him.
17:34To me, it's like much more real that London is dominating there from heavy personnel.
17:38I expect that to just continue. And he's being drafted kind of as if that didn't happen last year, like as if
17:45he wasn't a top five wide receiver for the entire season up until the injury.
17:50So he's one he's one where it's like it could be a similar kind of heavy personnel situation.
17:56But that gives me like more confidence in him as like one of the best picks in round two right now.
18:03Yeah. Over an underdog. He's the wide receiver seven smack dab in the middle of round two.
18:08We wax poetic about Drake London. It's so cool to see him already get paid.
18:13And as you talked about here at the play callers, it's Tommy Reese and obviously Kevin Stefanski coming over as head coach.
18:20We'll talk about someone from his tree a bit later on with Drew Petsing in Detroit as well.
18:25These guys love multiple tight end sets. So while the league, it kind of is being commercialized as they are chasing the LA Rams with 13 personnel stuff.
18:34Drew Petsing and, you know, Kevin Stefanski have been running these, you know, heavy tight end personnel offenses for like the past two and three years, you know?
18:43So he's just going to bring that right to Atlanta.
18:46So like while you could say sure last season with the Falcons, their wide receiver depth was really a disaster.
18:53And so they ran a lot more of 12 personnel so they could get cow pits onto the field even more.
18:59I think you can say the exact same thing here again when it comes to this offense.
19:05Like I think out of 12, 13 and 21 personnel, the Browns had the second most past place across the league.
19:11So if we can just copy and paste this, even if the concerns are with Tua Tungavailoa and Michael Penix at quarterback,
19:18we've kind of gotten that selling of quarterback over the last couple of seasons.
19:23And like you said, Drake London coming back from that PCL when people rarely do.
19:27So there's rarely any data coming from it. He was a wide receiver 71 and I think like 113 in the first
19:34two games coming back, which kind of skews his, you know, entire season fantasy outlook.
19:39Speaking of contract extensions, let's talk about Christian Watson.
19:42I know this one of your favorite players this summer.
19:45Let's talk about the heavily handsomely paid wide receiver for the Green Bay Packers.
19:50Oh, yes. Yeah. Christian Watson, one of my favorite players in the NFL.
19:54It was a very fun day to watch him get paid and enjoy that.
19:58But yeah, I think he even before he got paid, I think he was just one of the best values in drafts
20:05because of kind of the personnel puzzle that the Packers present this year.
20:09So you can argue either way, honestly, on whether you think they'll play more three receiver sets or more two receiver sets.
20:16They like to do some two tight end stuff when Tucker Kraft was healthy.
20:21They certainly can play 11 personnel with Christian Watson, Matthew Golden, Jaden Reed.
20:25But what's really important is that just looking at what they did into receiver sets last year.
20:30Those were dominated largely by Romeo Dobbs, who's no longer there.
20:34And Ontavian Wicks would mix in some who was also no longer there and who was like the most direct kind of
20:41rotate rotation piece with Christian Watson, kind of limiting his playing time at different points over his career.
20:46So when you just look at the receivers, they have left Watson played on 62 percent of the Packers dropbacks from two or fewer receiver sets on them.
20:55He averaged 3.18 yards per outrun, which was eighth best in the NFL.
20:59And you look at Matthew Golden there, his route participation participation in the heavy sets down at 43 percent.
21:05Jaden Reed down at one and a half percent has basically never played into receiver sets at any point in his NFL career.
21:13So what this kind of does compared to last year where we had five receivers just rotating through and never really hitting
21:20full time usage outside of Romeo Dobbs, just kind of being parked there on the field.
21:25I think Watson just will be that receiver now is what seems most likely to me based on prior usage.
21:31He's just had the most play in those sets last year.
21:34And of course, they just paid him the most.
21:37But also whenever he has been in a full time route share over his career, 13 games above 75 percent of the
21:44routes, he's averaged 17 and a half fantasy points per game.
21:48He's been the wide receiver six. So like and of course, like everyone says, oh, but the injuries with Christian Watson, like I get all that.
21:56But really, whether it's injuries or the obnoxious like route rotation that LaFleur had running there for a couple of years, it
22:03really is just playing time that has been the only limiting factor on Watson being like a fantasy football superstar.
22:09And yeah, because of just how the personnel logic works out where Reed is unlikely to play in two receiver sets.
22:16And even if he does, it's probably because Matthew Golden can't hack it rather than because they have Watson on the bench.
22:23It's like, yeah, you what conclusion are we left with other than Watson's basically never going to leave the field.
22:29He has always been amazing when he's been on the field.
22:33And yeah, that's that's really it to me. So, yeah, he's one of my favorite values in all of drafts right now.
22:40You know, I think you and I can kind of get stuck in this fantasy football bubble a little bit, whereas many
22:47people out there in your home league drafts. I think you can take advantage of a lot of almost misnomers of what
22:54the Packers have been previously and who Christian Watson is and really get tremendous value of where he's going to go in your home leagues.
23:01I mean, even right now on best ball size, he's going as wide receiver 30 at the end of the fifth round, the five, six turn.
23:10I still think that's undervalued and Ryan, it's weird nowadays.
23:13I think it's kind of rare for a player to get paid like this and it can be extremely divisive.
23:19And that's exactly what we got here with Christian Watson.
23:22And I think it is because of those injuries and missed games like again in 2023 only played nine games in 2025.
23:29Ten games has never had a season with more than 620 receiving yards over seven touchdowns.
23:34Whereas you and I saw that contract and we watched him play football last year and we look at the underlying metrics
23:41and I know it was his fourth season in the league, but he took a major jump in just in terms of development.
23:49And I understand so many of us look at wide receivers and say, well, they are who they are after year two or year three.
23:57That's really not the case with Christian Watson. They have put in time and effort to make him a complete wide receiver now.
24:04And on the field last year, he was a complete wide receiver.
24:08Like we all remember the high variance downfield vertical shots that he hit with Aaron Rodgers in his rookie season and love
24:15those whenever he's been on the field. But last year, the big difference was he got gimmies, you know, like just if
24:22we're talking about out routes, 7.7% of his targets prior to last season, the first three years of his career made up of out routes.
24:30That jumped up to 35%. The ADOT was lower.
24:32Those were on critical third and fourth down, second and long situations.
24:36We got to have it. We got to, we got to have someone move the chains.
24:41And that was Christian Watson. So now he just attacks multiple areas of the field, every single blade of grass and offense that we do want pieces of.
24:50And finally, a personnel grouping that is now obvious.
24:53Like, am I allowed to say that about the Green Bay Packers now that, you know, Jane Reed has barely ever played in two wide receiver sets.
25:02He's going to have to probably do that some this year.
25:05Matthew Golden, they're in a bit of question marks.
25:08Even if you like the film after his rookie season, the only real tried and true and trusted pass catcher.
25:14He's going to be out there all the time in that Romeo Dobbs esque manner is Christian Watson now.
25:20And he is like tears above in terms of explosiveness and big playability.
25:24So I am again, relentlessly drafting one of these names and his name is Christian Watson.
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26:48I want to say he's in the sunset of his career.
26:52But seeing Mike Evans on a new team in the San Francisco 49ers, I also think leaves some room from in that,
26:59like allows us to attack some uncertainty here. So what do you think Mike Evans 2026 is going to look like?
27:05So the way that I kind of put this is when we're looking back on this year of Mike Evans after the
27:12season, it will seem very obvious that that was always how it was going to work out.
27:18And it can work out in one of two ways.
27:21He can be amazing. He can be the best pure, like talented receiver that Kyle Shanahan has had since Julio Jones, like
27:28just massively benefiting from all of these two or fewer wide receiver sets that he never really got to enjoy in Tampa Bay, where he has been what?
27:37Yeah, 36% more efficient from those sets over his career, 34% target per out run with two or fewer receivers on the field.
27:44When that is like all that Kyle Shanahan has done because he loves using fullback so much.
27:49He, of course, would have George Kittle on the field.
27:53But if Kittle's injured early in the year, then a tight end who's not George Kittle on the field, Jake Conjus or
28:00whoever, if he's using a blocking wide receiver in the F role, if that's going to be just John Stripling.
28:06Like there are a lot of eligible receivers that Shanahan likes putting on the field who are not immediate target earning threats.
28:13Right. So that that just makes somebody like Mike Evans so much more appealing.
28:17It just can create so much more efficiency, like target magnetism for him.
28:21He's always run hot on touchdowns every single season of his career.
28:25But I would love to see that in a Kyle Shanahan offense, essentially like the ingredients are there for this to be
28:32a completely special, like top five wide receiver season in fantasy.
28:36Not that different than what we saw with Devante Adams, but just maybe with even like more complete production.
28:42That's not just at the two yard line. Right.
28:44So that's like one side of it. And that's where I fall ultimately with Evans.
28:49I do think that this risk reward is worth it.
28:52But the other way it could go that will also seem very obvious in hindsight is he could tear his hamstring in
28:59week three playing next to the electrical substation like that.
29:03That is totally a possible world we could live in.
29:06I hope it's not. But that's really if Evans stays on the field and is healthy, I am pretty confident he's going to smash.
29:13He's been like top three in all of our separation metrics at fantasy points over each of the past two years, even
29:20though he's been playing through these lower body injuries for a lot of that time.
29:25So it's just what in terms of like old guy wide receiver that I'm willing to bet on this year, it's definitely Evans.
29:32Yeah, I can see thousands of people rolling their eyes that we just hyped up Christian Watson and Mike Evans.
29:39Just, you know, people hate drafting injured players and they've been among the two most injured players over the last few years.
29:46I mean, Mike Evans hamstrings go back about five years in terms of giving us concerns on a weekly basis.
29:52At the same time, again, I think that's an area where you can take advantage of your league mates doing the exact
29:59same thing, not wanting to draft these guys and you playing for upside, you drafting for upside.
30:04Because if we get long stretches of the season, 12, 14, 16 games out of both of these players, then the upside
30:11is there for them to be really season defining assets.
30:14As you put it, I mean, again, Evans only ran 16% of his routes with fewer than three wide receivers on the
30:21field the past two years in Tampa. Again, the reason why we like Kyle you check being on the field or both
30:28Kittle and Tonjes or Luke Farrell on the field is because then that gets the narrower and narrower target tree to these
30:35wide receivers and Juwan Jennings, which isn't the one-to-one replacement for Mike Evans, by the way, but he was up at 44%
30:42last season in 2025 in terms of routes with two or fewer or excuse me, three or fewer, two or fewer wide receivers on the field.
30:51I do expect Sribling to like kind of get that role.
30:54I thought he'd be the best blocking wide receiver from this class, but I just think it's cool when we get someone
31:01like Mike Evans in an offense run by Kyle Shanahan because it's almost like a fantasy draft and Madden is the only
31:08way of doing that in the past. And we can have like one final season, one final season for him to like really leave his mark, I think.
31:17So we've talked all wide receivers so far, but with how there's been so much overlap between the wide receiver and tight
31:24end position in drafts recently and how young that tight end position is getting across the league.
31:29I also feel like Ryan and you can elaborate more on this that not only can you know these heavier personnel packages enhance a wide receiver season.
31:38It can also do that for like alpha receiving types at the tight end position to that's right.
31:43I think the the biggest area to kind of look for here is there are some tight ends that are kind of
31:50on the borderline in terms of they're really good receivers and they're like good enough receivers that you just want to play
31:57them on every down in line, even if they're not like the most amazing blockers because it's a worthy trade off.
32:04Right. I would put Colston Lovelin through parts of his rookie season kind of in that bucket.
32:09And I would put Sam Laporta through a lot of his career so far kind of in that bucket like they're good
32:16enough in line to get away with it. You want them on the field.
32:21Right. But what that can sometimes lead to, as we saw with Colston Lovelin as a rookie and Laporta at times is
32:28they can be kind of borderline in terms of their playing time.
32:32Like those guys are much closer to like 70 percent route share tight ends.
32:36Right. We really want like 80 percent, 85 percent in like the Trey McBride area to get like those super high upside tight end seasons.
32:44And I think that the shift to heavy personnel to more multiple tight end sets, it can really help out those guys
32:51that are already amazing receivers that you want on the field anyway.
32:55But just having more 12 personnel sets, bringing a second tight end or a third tight end onto the field and just
33:02so that you are in that heavy personnel, not giving that up in terms of the run threat either.
33:08That can just create so much more playing time for them and so many more opportunities.
33:13So case in point, just looking at last year when the Bears were in 13 personnel, one wide receiver, three tight end
33:20sets, Loveland was running a route on 98 percent of those drawbacks, which is awesome.
33:24That's exactly what you want. So if the Bears, after they drafted Sam Rauch, still have Cole Komet under contract, if that's
33:31if you're taking that as a signal that they're going to really ramp up the two and three tight end sets, that
33:38that can only be amazing for Colson Loveland just because he's always going to be on the field for them.
33:45Like arguably that's why they want to do it, to keep Colson Loveland on the field even more.
33:50I love one's efficiency on those plays over 4.6 yards per outrun 53 percent of the Bears receiving yards on those plays.
33:57You could kind of see also where Loveland had his big kind of productive breakout toward the tail end of last season.
34:04That was also when the Bears started shifting to a lot more 12 and 13 personnel, of course, partly brought on by
34:11the injuries that receiver Roma Doomsday's injury. But they really stuck with it.
34:15And like, yeah, just the volume production for Loveland stayed around.
34:19Yeah, and their offseason moves suggest that that's kind of what they want to go into this year doing.
34:25So, yeah, I'm only left with the assumption or the conclusion that Loveland just belongs in the elite tight end tier.
34:32I have him ranked pretty close with Trey McBride.
34:34I think it's ridiculous that you were saying earlier that round four is amazing.
34:39I agree. The only thing that sucks about round four is there's so many amazing players I want to draft in it.
34:46Like Loveland should be around three ADP to me.
34:49It's a little absurd to me that he's in round four.
34:52He's at the four or five turn, right? I mean, he's the 46th overall pick, the 10th pick of the fourth round.
34:59There's so much there that you said. One big question I have for you first, though.
35:04So, we haven't had a team, at least this past season, like just totally live out of 12 personnel, right?
35:11The number one team last year in just simply two tight end sets was the Cleveland Browns at 44%.
35:17With how the Bears are constructed this year with Colson Loveland, Cole Komet and Luther Burton and Roma Dunze and really no wide receiver depth after that.
35:25Do you think there is like what percentage chance would you give that the Bears finish this season over 50% out of 12 personnel?
35:33Oh, wow. I haven't really considered giving a percentage to this.
35:36It can't be that high just because we haven't really seen that before recently in the NFL, a team being over 50%.
35:43But I'd give it like a 25% to 30% chance that that happens.
35:47And that's like insanely exciting. Even that is like exciting because even if it's 40%, then that's amazing for everything we're saying, right?
35:55Yeah. And maybe I should even throw in, you know, the 13 personnel looks, right?
35:59Because you bring in Sam Rauch, who like truly is a run blocker.
36:03And this gives you an opportunity for Colson Loveland to not arguably only be their just best pass catcher overall.
36:10But then when you go into two tight end sets, it's him and then Roman Luther.
36:15Then when you get into 13 personnel, then that is Luther and Rome competing to be the only wide receiver on the field.
36:22And then easily, if not the number one, then it's number two pass catcher on the field being Colson Loveland.
36:28I'm so excited for this. I am for this.
36:31I mean, I thought coming out of Michigan that Colson Loveland could just be a key cog and define an entire offense's passing game.
36:39And we really saw that down the stretch. It's somewhat uncommon for this to happen in the NFL now, Ryan.
36:45But like, I'm not going to ask you for another percentage, but I think the odds are pretty decent that Colson Loveland
36:52just is the best pass catcher on the Chicago Bears this year in terms of yards.
36:57Oh, yeah. In terms of touchdowns, in terms of receptions.
37:00And we're able to get that as a tight end three, like you said, in round four.
37:06And typically, we'd have to draft that with Travis Kelsey in round one or, you know, Brock Bowers in round two.
37:12Yeah, I will give you a percent. I'm at like 60 to 65 percent that Loveland just leads the Bears in all receiving categories.
37:20Yeah, that's where I'm at. Yeah. And look, he really didn't get going last year until what about week six or week seven?
37:27Ben Johnson really took his time getting both Colson Loveland and Luther Burden and even Calmonungai involved until after that bye week.
37:34But the underlying metrics, as you said, are simply insane when it's two wide receivers or fewer and especially just one wide receiver on the field.
37:43So I cannot wait for what this offense looks like.
37:46And while I think this next offseason, they'll have to maybe move on from Cole commit.
37:51And then we really just get two tight ends on the field.
37:55We should really enjoy this moment of, hey, the Bears have three legit tight ends on the roster if they all stay healthy.
38:02And that will only accentuate Colson Loveland even more this season.
38:05And I know we're talking about 13 personnel so much and what the Rams, if you include the Super Bowl and the
38:12regular season, had like 20 percent of their past attempts out of 13 personnel.
38:17Like it's not this gigantic number. But as you're saying, if in those moments you get someone with a 4.6 yards per
38:24run and 53 percent market share, like you're getting of receiving yards in Colson Loveland, then that 20 percent can win you weeks in fancy football.
38:32It's really that simple. Yeah. And I do. I will like caveat, of course, that I do think 13 personnel specifically three tight ends on the field overall.
38:41It has been like over discussed. Like, I think it's really just the Rams and Bears capable of doing it in a
38:48way that makes any sense just with the personnel that they have.
38:52So I don't think that that specifically is going to be like what takes the NFL by storm.
38:57But yeah, it's just it's very team by team.
39:00Like, I think people are a little too black and white with how they with how they think about this stuff like NFL wide.
39:08But yeah, specifically with the Bears, I'm all in and I'm excited and I think it could really matter.
39:14And I probably should have said this at the top, but this is obvious.
39:18But one main reason why teams are utilizing that is because, you know, these defenses were not honoring 12 personnel as much as they previously did.
39:26Like they weren't just going to base because of 12 personnel stuff because they thought, hey, our fifth defensive back could stick up to your second tight end.
39:35And we are not worried about, you know, getting run on in those situations.
39:40So then they took an extra layer and said, OK, actually, we're going to add another body onto the field and now
39:47force you into these personal groupings that we want you to just in terms of heavier and slower players.
39:53OK, you said you only really believe it with the Rams and the Bears.
39:57I think I can make a pitch that the Detroit Lions should be part of that.
40:02You mentioned Sam Laporta, and I don't think it's been an under discussed topic, but I just want to reiterate that Drew
40:09Petsing from Arizona is now the play caller. The offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions.
40:14And while the Rams have kind of taken the mantle of being the 13 personnel team, Drew Petsing will tell you that
40:21over the last two years, he's kind of done it the most, you know, and that was with Trey McBride and tip
40:28Ryman, who was a, you know, day to just pure blocking tight end.
40:32And then Elijah Higgins. So this guy has been willing to do it with kind of two lesser tight end talents out there.
40:39And then on this team, you now have Sam Laporta.
40:42You have Brock Wright, who kind of fills that blocking role.
40:46And then you bring in Tyler Conklin, who's also a viable veteran third tight end.
40:51So over the past two seasons, when you combine them, second most passing plays out of 13 personnel, the third most plays
40:58overall out of 13 personnel and tied for the most 15 plus yard passing plays out of it with with 28.
41:04So while this team in the past has had multiple wide receivers and we'll see how much they think about Isaac Tesla
41:11to live out of 11, if Sam Laporta is healthy, I think this could be a team that is up there in
41:18terms of the three tight end usage. Yeah, I agree with everything up to the point of I don't believe that they're
41:25taking Jameson Williams off the field for a third tight end very often, at least like this team is obsessed with Jameson Williams.
41:32Every summer I have to like pull the Jameson Williams quotes from a year ago of just the unhinged things that Dan
41:39Campbell or anyone on the staff says about him every single summer.
41:43It's how they motivate him or whatever, I guess.
41:46But yeah, I don't think they're taking him off the field that often for a tight end.
41:51But what I do think is going to happen is that there's kind of been like some weird quote warfare around this.
41:58Like anytime I bring up multi tight end sets for the Lions, people say, oh, Dan Campbell said that that wasn't going
42:05to be a thing and that it was only because of Petsing's personnel.
42:10That's like not really what he said. Like if you're kind of and I did this, I just went back and listened
42:17to every interview that like a Lions offensive coach gave basically since the combine.
42:21I and what what I really got was that they want to be versatile from week to week.
42:27They think they have the personnel to go to heavy sets in some weeks, depending on matchup and to be an 11 in other weeks, depending on matchup.
42:36And I think that I think that I would agree with that assessment.
42:40They can kind of go wherever they want. And I would also point out that that's kind of what the Rams did last year, too.
42:48Like it was not every single week that they were just OK, we're going to be 20 percent, 13 personnel.
42:54There were weeks where they were close to 50 percent and there were weeks where they were close to zero percent, depending
43:01how healthy Adams was, what they thought of the matchup.
43:04Like they didn't do it as much against the Seahawks.
43:07Like there's all these factors from week to week, but especially from like a best ball lens.
43:13That's amazing. I will. If you told me right now, like there are going to be five weeks scattered throughout the season
43:20where Sam Laporta is actually going to have a 95 percent route participation rate because they're going to be in heavy sets.
43:27And Laporta has been absurdly efficient from multi tight end sets over his career.
43:310.7 fantasy points per out run ranks behind only Puka Nakua, JSN, Devante Adams and Stefan Diggs among wide receivers over the past two years.
43:39Then that's amazing. Like there's just amazing spike week potential for Sam Laporta based on this.
43:44And as as I was saying earlier, I think if they go to a little more 12, just kind of keep him
43:51on the field more bump him from like 75 percent of the routes to 80 percent of the routes that like makes a big difference.
43:59And we've seen that in Laporta's career splits, too.
44:02He's nearly 16 fantasy points per game in his games above a 75 percent route share.
44:07It's just he's had a lot of games where he's either had to rotate off a little too much or has been injured and limited.
44:15Like if he's playing more, that's amazing. Very similarly as to what we talked about with Christian Watson.
44:20This is anecdotal, but maybe a topic for an upcoming article for you, Ryan, because I won't dive into it as much.
44:27But it has always felt like it's either a Jameson Williams week or a Sam Laporta week.
44:33And while there are different body types, they kind of can occupy the same exact area on the field where Ben Johnson,
44:40you know, would get them in these crossing routes and drag routes kind of against the grain of everything else.
44:46And so one of those guys was getting those opportunities each week, and it wasn't both of them.
44:52So I don't know how I'm drafting tight ends this year.
44:55You know, we can talk about the Bowers and maybe lesser for me, McBride, but definitely the Lovelands and especially the Tyler Warrens.
45:02And then I really didn't want to draft anyone in that middle area.
45:07I am talking myself more and more into Sam Laporta tied in seven overall right now in the ninth round.
45:13Now, I do want to say that we as a football collective kind of obsessed over certain injuries like Malik neighbors and
45:20Bucky Irving and some of these other types and kind of forget about other ones.
45:25Sam Laporta is coming off of a significant injury, a back injury that as soon as he sustained it last year was
45:32immediately placed on injury reserve and they just did not play him anymore.
45:36Just yesterday, he returned to just jogging at OTAs and hopefully in training camp, we get more and more positive reports.
45:42And if we do, I would expect Sam Laporta's ADP to climb.
45:46But I just don't want to say that, oh, this is just a player that, you know, has all these underlying metrics
45:53that we absolutely love and, you know, was the best tight end during his rookie season and not talk about this injury
46:00that he has dealt with for many, many months.
46:03But at least he seems to be trending on the right path.
46:07Yeah, agreed 100 percent. You got you do. Thanks for mentioning that.
46:11Yeah, it is one of those ones that you kind of forget about that.
46:15There's like a scary quote about once in a while, but that never kind of catches on.
46:20It's yeah, I I've for a while I've wanted to write a whole piece about just like the fantasy football attention economy
46:27and the things that like capture our imaginations. Just based on like what the algorithm is showing to all of us all
46:34the time and how that like it does change how we draft players and how we think and talk about.
46:41Totally. I don't know what my through line would be there, but that yeah, it's a huge thing that you just hit on.
46:48Well, Ryan, if you write it, I'll probably ask you to have you on the show.
46:53That's what you do. Like when you write these big bangers, then you come on an episode if you have time.
47:00So I always appreciate it, Ryan. Again, I continue to say this every time you come on.
47:05Not only do you get better on these, like I love having you on these episodes.
47:10You are one of the rising stars, I think, in the fancy business that I think it's difficult to come up with
47:17new angles when we talk and especially write about fancy football, but you find it and how to do it every single time.
47:24So before you got to hear anything you want to pitch to people, anything you want to say that what you're up to.
47:32Yeah, you can follow along with all of my work.
47:35All my written work is on fantasypoints.com. You can find me on x at Ryan J underscore Heath.
47:41I always tweet out when I have new work and you can find us on YouTube as well.
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