Target These Second Year RBs ✅ 2026 Fantasy Football
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1 hr 19 min
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Jun 11, 2026
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Thu, June 11, 2026
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Quinshon JudkinsTreVeyon HendersonRJ HarveyDavid MontgomeryDylan SampsonJ.K. DobbinsKeaton MitchellWoody Marks
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David Montgomery
PositiveDepth Chart0:01
David Montgomery's arrival in Houston has shifted the expectations for Woody Marks, as Montgomery is seen as a more explosive option despite both players having similar profiles.
Insight pageDylan Sampson
PositiveRole0:39
Dylan Sampson is expected to be one of the better pass game running backs as a complement to the offense.
Insight pageJ.K. Dobbins
PositiveInjury0:56
JK Dobbins has a history of injuries, averaging only seven and a half games played per season, which raises concerns about his durability.
Insight pageKeaton Mitchell
PositiveSleeper0:17
Keaton Mitchell is gaining attention as a sleeper pick, especially if he can carve out a role in the Chargers' offense.
Insight pageQuinshon Judkins
PositiveUsage0:34
Judkins faced a high number of eight-plus defender boxes and had to navigate a poor offensive line, which impacted his statistics but not his talent.
Insight pagePositiveInjury0:40
Quinchon Judkins dislocated his right ankle and fractured his fibula in week 16, which raises concerns about his efficiency and workload for the upcoming season.
Insight pagePositiveProjection0:40
Despite injury concerns, reports indicate that Quinchon Judkins has been participating more than expected this offseason, which is a positive sign for his recovery.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:42
Quinchon Judkins has an appealing ADP in the middle of the fifth round, making him a value pick if you haven't already selected two running backs.
Insight pageRJ Harvey
PositiveProjection0:51
RJ Harvey had a strong finish to the season, ranking as the RB 17 on RB 10 usage after JK Dobbins went down, indicating potential for fantasy points.
Insight pageNegativeBust0:52
Despite some flashes of talent, RJ Harvey's underlying metrics were poor, suggesting he may struggle to meet expectations in a committee backfield.
Insight pageTreVeyon Henderson
PositiveProjection0:56
Trevion Henderson had over 1100 total yards and 10 touchdowns in his rookie season, showcasing his potential in a good offense.
Insight pageNegativeRole0:56
Henderson struggled in pass protection during his rookie season, which could limit his playing time and effectiveness.
Insight pagePositiveRole0:56
Henderson's speed and ability to win races in open space make him a valuable asset, especially if the Patriots improve their offensive line.
Insight pageWoody Marks
NegativeBust0:01
Woody Marks is viewed as a role player with limited upside due to his lack of burst and the Texans' poor offensive line, making him a risky pick.
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0:39Unfortunately for us, the loaded 2025 rookie running back class really never got going.
0:43We had horrible situations for Ashton Gentry, injuries to the likes of Amarion Hampton and Cam Scadaboo, Quinshon Judkins on top of that.
0:49And in fact, Hayden, maybe some of the more promising and surprising moments came from like true seventh rounders out there on the field.
0:57Yeah, I thought there was not that much of a gap between the top guys and kind of the next tier of guys.
1:03I was kind of disappointing going back and talking about these guys.
1:07That does not mean that they can't be effective fantasy players.
1:10I'm trying to like play both sides of this.
1:13We'll get to the fantasy appeal, but also just all right.
1:16How close are they to Jameer Gibbs and B.
1:18John Robinson? I think short answer for me is not that close.
1:22Interesting. Now, fortunately for us, the 2026 running back class in the NFL draft was horrible.
1:27So all of these guys are going to get at least a second opportunity, if not a third.
1:32And many of them are going extremely early in your fantasy league.
1:35At least five of these names are going to talk about today.
1:39The second year breakouts are being selected as top 24 running backs over an underdog at this very moment where you can draft at this very moment.
1:47So this is important because we're expecting massive strides and a lot of production and full seasons from a lot of these
1:53names when we only got a taste of them last year in great situations.
1:57So we dove in, we watched all the snaps.
2:00We watched all the tape. This is the second year breakout week show.
2:04Hopefully you tuned into the tight ends and the quarterbacks episode and we have wide receivers coming up tomorrow.
2:09So hit subscribe and watch this because now Hayden, let's talk about that 12th overall pick in drafts right now as a running back six.
2:17Despite last season, the most forgettable 321 touches you will ever see.
2:20Ash and gente is once again on our first round radar.
2:23What did you see when going back and watching?
2:26I thought he was very similar to what he was at at Boise State.
2:30He's exceptional at forcing missed tackles once he has a little bit of space.
2:34So once you aren't contacted at the line of scrimmage is beyond that.
2:38The NFL average is 0.16 missed tackles per carry.
2:41Ash and gente is at 0.29 almost doubles that.
2:43And when you watch his tape, there's lots of guys just bouncing off of them at the second level.
2:49And even at the first level when he's hit immediately, I think where maybe I was a little bit disappointed with Ash
2:55and gente is I do think it took him a little bit longer to kind of get going than what I was hoping for.
3:02And I don't think that he has the elite foot quickness of the real true standout players across the NFL.
3:08He's more of your throwback type, which we were expecting here.
3:12I thought he was going to have maybe a little bit more burst out of the gate.
3:17I do think there's going to be a lot of changes going on with the Raiders, all of them positive.
3:22He finishes the RB 16 on RB 11 usage last year.
3:26I still haven't ranked as the RB nine. I think he's gonna get a ton of touches.
3:31He can handle it. I think there's more room for growth as a receiver.
3:35He flashed a couple of those downfall moments even during his rookie season.
3:38I think there's more to be unlocked there. I just think there's a difference between some of the other top what 12
3:45ish overall selections in recent drafts versus versus Ash and gente after watching this tape.
3:49I'm unmoved based on my opinion of who he was coming to the league and what he was able to show during his rookie season.
3:57I think he'll win in the exact same ways that I anticipated.
4:00Unfortunately, and what we talk about every single week on this channel was stats versus film.
4:05I mean, the vast majority of running back production can just be totally destroyed by offensive line play and situations that you find yourselves in.
4:12And for me, Ashton gente was easily in the worst of this group.
4:16And that is saying something because some of these running backs were in horrible situations last year.
4:21And all you have to do is look towards, you know, the yards before contact per attempt.
4:26That was 0.6 last year. Average 0.6 yards per carry before he was contacted.
4:30And that is, you know, despite breaking a ludicrous amount of forced mistackles, as you said, with his rate.
4:36But just overall, that number was extremely high at 63.
4:39There were plenty of times where he forced a mistackle that prevented a three-yard loss that only gave him a zero or one-yard gain.
4:46And so for us on the eye test, that looks awesome.
4:49For the underlying metrics, it absolutely looks horrible. Now, Chip Kelly also, I would say, kind of mismanaged this situation.
4:55Like when you spend that early of a pick on a player, you can't have some rando subbing in for him in pure passing situations.
5:02I understand bringing these players and these rookies along slowly.
5:05But as the season went along, he did handle 84% of the backfield touches.
5:09That is running back two across the league. So while I might not rank him as the running back six, while I
5:15might not be drafting him as a 12th pick overall right now, and we can get into the reasons why, I still
5:22am very optimistic of what he can be in a more composed and just a platform for him to have success.
5:28Yeah, I just wanted to play a little bit faster.
5:31Which was on him just a little bit. Obviously, the overwhelming part of that was just the offensive line.
5:36I mean, any of them. After Colton Miller was out of there, all five spots were brutal.
5:41The tight ends weren't blocking very well. On top of that, I thought there were scheme issues.
5:46You just really felt him going at that second level.
5:49When he had some space, he's just too thick to tackle.
5:53I think it's kind of as simple as that.
5:55He runs really hard. I thought he had really nice hands throughout the season, too.
6:00We thought Mike Washington's an interesting prospect behind him.
6:02He's going to be, I think, a low-volume, almost Raheem Mostert kind of change of pace guy off the edge.
6:08And I do think that Ashton Gentry's bell cow profile here is absolutely going to translate.
6:13So I'm in the middle of the second round for fantasy purposes.
6:16I have no questions about his ability to handle the workload, catch passes, do all that type of stuff.
6:22I just think if you're the Raiders, do you have Jameer Gibbs or B.
6:26John Robinson in your backfield right now? I just think you don't.
6:29That's a strong statement based on where he was drafted.
6:32I want to give him a season of having just more opportunities to show that second level stuff because Jameer Gibbs got that immediately.
6:39B. John Robinson got that immediately based on their landing spots.
6:43And his running style is different than those guys.
6:45But just what I love so much coming out of Boise State was it's not just he was able to force one
6:52missed tackle and pick up and create extra yards on his own.
6:55He, like, chained those moves together once he got two defensive backs, once he got to, like, the third and fourth level.
7:02And so – and this is more difficult to do in the NFL, but that allowed, you know, 16-yard gains to go for 50-yard gains.
7:09And he's not going to reel those off at the same rate.
7:13But that was, like, a rare combo of stamina, like tackle-breaking stamina in the same run.
7:17And then just six runs later, he was able to do the exact same thing at Boise State.
7:23And that's going to be more difficult, once again, in the NFL.
7:26But I just want him to have, like, the legit opportunity of getting to the second and third level untouched more.
7:32Yeah. I wonder if he's going to have, like, a Josh Jacobs-level career, which I think is probably the baseline outcome.
7:38I think that you're hoping he has more Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry, Saquon Barkley in him.
7:43I just think that he doesn't quite hit that threshold.
7:46Josh Jacobs is one of my favorite running backs to watch.
7:49I think he's going to have a way better season this year.
7:53So it's not like I'm really concerned about Ashton Jensie.
7:56I just think, you know, the ROI, I think we're going to look back and be like, that was pretty tough.
8:02You know, so often when a head coach gets his first time as a head coach after just being a play caller,
8:08we like to copy-paste what they did in their previous stop and say, well, this is just what he's going to do here at his new location.
8:16So we know Clint Kubiak last year, he had Ken Walker, who's being drafted right around where Ashton Jensie is in this,
8:23like, legit cluster of eight straight running backs on underdog at this moment, everywhere from James Cook down to Derrick Henry.
8:29And then you had Zach Charbonnet as the backup.
8:31So we know Mike McDonald wanted the rotation to keep those guys healthy throughout the entire season.
8:36Do you think that Ashton Jensie has a chance of getting the 75% workload, which is a lot more than what Ken
8:43Walker, Zach Charbonnet had last year, but actually less than what he had during his rookie season?
8:48Yeah, I mean, I would put Jensie's chances of handling as big of a workload as anybody in the whole league.
8:54You know, like, I think it's as simple as that.
8:57And that's why he has such an incredible floor.
8:59Like for how terrible everything went around him. He was still the RB 16 last year, which is like, obviously not what you wanted.
9:06That was when the worst situation ever. So like in terms of the floor, his is as high as anybody's.
9:12Let's talk about someone in that cluster of running backs, running back nine drafted right now.
9:17The third pick of the second round. This is Amarin Hampton with the LA Chargers turned 156 touches into 737 total yards and five touchdowns last year.
9:25Now he goes from a Greg Roman offense into a Mike McDaniel offense.
9:29What did you like and dislike when going back and watching Omar in him?
9:33There's definitely two sides of the equation. I think he's one of the most physically gifted running backs in the NFL, like point blank period.
9:40His long speed is really, really good for somebody that's 220 pounds.
9:44I thought he had really soft hands out of the backfield.
9:47So he's not like super one dimensional. I think he has the profile to eventually become a bell cow back, but he
9:53also needs some like very real development. In my opinion, I thought he had bad pacing as a runner.
9:59I thought his eyes as a runner were also pretty lackluster.
10:02I thought he was pretty late on some reps and then I thought he was too quick picking a hole on others.
10:09It was kind of all over the place. Obviously the Chargers offensive line did him very few favors.
10:14Hopefully that's better with both the tackles. Hopefully healthy.
10:16Tyler Biotich is definitely a better center. So you have the ingredients where this thing could actually look right.
10:22And when he got to the second level, I mean, it was outrageous.
10:26He had a couple of reps against the Giants where he turns the corner.
10:30It's like, okay, that guy should not be running that fast.
10:33And then on other reps, he's dragging Giants for like 10 yards at a time, just putting the team on his back.
10:40So you really like some of the stuff. I just think in general, one stat to before I kick it to you,
10:46Hampton's rush yards over expected negative 40% with three or fewer yards to go.
10:50And then on four or more yards to go plus 21%.
10:53So there's like success rate, if you will, is way different when he has some more space.
10:58Once things kind of got confined and up the middle, he was just not nearly as good.
11:03Partially offensive line. I do think partially Omar and Hampton.
11:06I was going to ask you that and you kind of explained it.
11:10What do those two very different outcomes tell you about him as a player?
11:14Is it, hey, when he kind of runs into brick walls, when he has to be extremely decisive as soon as he
11:21angles immediately, that maybe it can be a bit lackluster in terms of his production and his outcome in those versus, hey,
11:27when you give him a bit of space, which we'll talk about the Mike McDaniel facet of this.
11:32Then, whoa, baby, we've got something that is different about him.
11:36I think that's exactly right. I thought his vision wasn't good enough.
11:39So when you have to pick up three yards at a time and every little second matters, then it's you kind of get hurt by him.
11:47And then when you have more space and he's out running everybody, that's like an extra like 40 yards.
11:52Another running back would not have gotten. So, like, of course, his success rate is not always going to be super high
11:59on those, but he makes enough big plays where you can really dream of an upside.
12:03And that's just as a rusher. I do think there's plenty of elements as a receiver where he gets the ball cleanly and swing passes.
12:11And on those plays, he can go up the sideline to his profile was very similar at North Carolina.
12:16As I thought it was as a rookie. Like you talked about the speed.
12:20I'll also talk about the weird tackle breaking where like on final contact, he twists and turns and, you know, puts his
12:27body towards the defender and always wants these final moments to fight for extra yards.
12:31It leaves them open and susceptible to these massive weird hits that you don't see at the NFL very often.
12:37But at the same time, he also, again, forces a high rate of missed tackles.
12:41I think it was 0.27 and then creates a bunch of hidden yards because of it.
12:46He's just a different type of player. And I would even say he's more athlete than running back at this time in
12:53terms of his vision, his feel for space, setting up lanes and all that type of stuff.
12:58So I have some not real concerns about him as a true runner, just like things that aren't perfect and aren't ideal
13:04when you go through the running back checklist. But then I just look at the situation that he's freaking in and the
13:10size of 220 plus pounds with the speed that he has attached now to Mike McDaniel, who in 2025 had the running
13:17back five and points per game running back 11 and points per game in 2024.
13:21And then we go back three seasons ago to 2023 had both the running back three and running back four and points per game.
13:28So I asked myself, does it really even matter what qualms I have and what holes could potentially be in his profile
13:35if everything goes according to plan here? Because you have a play caller, a play designer in Mike McDaniel, who has created
13:41space at every stop he has been in, has a great blocking scheme for that to really utilize a center and offensive tackles.
13:48And your guards don't have to be perfect, which they aren't here for the chargers, because he can still be highly and
13:54I mean highly productive if he remains the guy, the lead guy in this back.
13:59Yeah, there's going to get him off off and running on the edge.
14:03And that's exactly what he did for Miami for all those years as well.
14:07And we saw that with Shanahan at times, too, depending on what style of running back they have.
14:12I do think that Keaton Mitchell does a lot of the same things that we are used to.
14:17I was going to ask you that because like, yeah, right now on fantasy football Twitter, there's a lot of I am fading.
14:24Omar and Hampton because of Keaton Mitchell and Keaton Mitchell has been like the apple of fantasy Twitter's eye for a very long time.
14:31And I get it in like the small sample of touches that he has.
14:35He explodes. He fits in this type. He has the juice.
14:38And that is 100% correct. But we know he's a couple of years removed now from a significant injury.
14:44The Ravens could have kept hold of him for very little and they chose not to.
14:49And he wound up in like the ideal situation for his talents.
14:52So what is the likelihood that this even turns into a 50-50 split or that Amarin Hampton like, you know, doesn't just
14:58have this outright lead on the backfield? Well, the good news is Keaton Mitchell is like 40 pounds lighter than Amarin Hampton.
15:05So at the goal line, we should expect Amarin Hampton to get all those touches.
15:09I do think that we should not discount Kamani Vidal because Kamani Vidal is good in pass protection.
15:15And I could see this being like a three back committee to some degree.
15:19I thought Amarin Hampton's head was kind of spinning in pass protection.
15:22I thought that he was, he had like the mask to do it, but he is just like trying to light guys up.
15:29And then there was a lot of whiffs and pass protection on his tapes.
15:33And I do think that they like Kamani Vidal.
15:36So I do wonder if this is almost like three guys with three kind of different profiles and all of them are going to get enough touches.
15:44It just comes down to like how potent is this McDaniels offense going to be with Justin Herbert?
15:49And are they going to throw the ball more than we typically see with McDaniels offense because they have Justin Herbert instead of Tua.
15:56So I think like the big concern for me is just if Keaton Mitchell is doing a lot of the stuff on
16:02the ground that we like, and he's kind of trusted even on small volume, there is like some pressure.
16:08Or Amarin Hampton does have to step his game up to have this crazy ceiling.
16:12The ceiling, very obvious. I do think the guys he's being drafted next to, they just have much better floors.
16:18So I'm actually a couple spots lower on Amarin Hampton, fully acknowledging he can finish at like the 104 this year.
16:24And I love the Chargers offense. I was wishing that Amarin Hampton offered maybe a little bit more trustworthiness on tape.
16:30And I'm not sure if we got that solved.
16:33If he fails, it's for the reasons that we brought up.
16:36You know, so I shouldn't just, you know, shoo those away as an outcome here.
16:41I believe it's just far likelier that the first round pick from last season, that the head coach and general manager are
16:47still attached to this team that selected him there, who had some real moments and still create starts on his own.
16:53And now goes into a scheme that probably accentuates his strengths and minimizes his weaknesses.
16:58Yes. So hold on to the job, you know, and some level he is like Keaton Mitchell, but plus 20.
17:04Exactly. Now there's also an outcome where both of these guys are actually good values.
17:08And it's weird to say that about someone who is the fifth pick of the second round of Amarin Hampton.
17:14And then like the fifth pick of the 12th round, which Keaton Mitchell is at this point.
17:19And again, we just have to look back to 2023.
17:22I mean, the Dolphins, and this would be a tremendous outcome here for the Chargers.
17:26The Dolphins that year were second best in terms of points for per game at 29.2.
17:31And again, that was a running back three and running back four and points per game with Raheem Mostert and Devon Achan.
17:37Now, Achan had a whole bunch of yards. He had a whole bunch of receptions.
17:42And Raheem Mostert went absolutely nuclear in terms of inside the 10 and inside the 15-yard line in terms of scoring touchdowns.
17:48Like the most since John Riggins, I believe, of a 30-plus-year-old.
17:51But Hayden, if you look across the league and you stack quarterback and skilled players and offensive tackles and offensive lineman and
17:58play caller, I think there's a pathway for the loss in the Chargers to score the second most points in the league this year.
18:05Yeah, ultimately with my Omarin Hampton takeaway, it's I can nitpick this thing, but it's just a dangerous game to nitpick this.
18:11So I think he's firmly a second-round pick. He should not be at the round one-two turn.
18:16I do think Omarin Hampton hopefully turns into Derrick Henry, and Derrick Henry gets selected after him.
18:21So I think we can nitpick a couple draft picks overall here.
18:25This is the general range that he belongs in.
18:27And I do think that Keaton Mitchell can pay off his ADP more in best ball because it would be hard to
18:34predict when he's going to have his 40-yard touchdowns.
18:36But I do think they are coming. Keep in mind, though, Keaton Mitchell has one career game over 10 carries.
18:42So as excited as we can get here, the baseline outcome is Keaton Mitchell averages seven carries.
18:47Omarin Hampton gets 14. And then he catches some passes and gets the goal line work.
18:52And then all of a sudden, he's like a low-end RB1.
18:55So I think that's my baseline expectation. And I just really believe in Herbert with McDaniels.
19:00Two Chargers are going in the 12th round. We just did our tight end show.
19:04Arunda Gadsden is the 11th pick of the 12th round.
19:07Keaton Mitchell is the fifth pick of the 12th round.
19:10Which of those are you more likely to draft this year?
19:13Yeah, it would be Keaton in half PPR. Yeah.
19:16Because if something does happen to Omari, then the Keaton Mitchell stuff goes sky high versus I'm not sure that the outcome
19:22case is there for Arunda Gadsden to be a league winner at his position.
19:26Remember, guys, though. Go type in Harbaugh, Kamani Vidal.
19:29There is a little fascination. This is not a two-person race.
19:32I'm telling you there will be three guys involved here in terms of snaps.
19:36Just the injury front. Left ankle fracture week five against the Commanders.
19:40And then he had another ankle injury in week 17 for Omari and Hampton last year.
19:45One final thought on this Mike McDaniel system now for three plus years, four plus years in the league.
19:50His offenses have ranked fifth in yards per rush to running backs, fifth in success rate, and first in explosive run rate.
19:57Yeah. Hampton's fast, man. He's big and fast and then tries to break tackles and win on final contact.
20:02Yeah. So I can say all the rest of the stuff, but that's a recipe in this offense for just success.
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20:41Let's talk about Cam Scadaboo. He's next up on this list, running back 19, being drafted the seventh pick of the fourth round.
20:48Uh, what a fun player he was in college, then stayed on the board way too late in the actual NFL draft
20:55and then shows up and averages over 90 yards when given the starting job until what about week eight, where he dislocated
21:01his right ankle, fractured his fibula, and then ruptured his deltoid ligament.
21:05So what do you think about Cam Scadaboo here entering year two?
21:08I thought his rookie team is pretty underrated. He fought really, really hard for lots of extra yards, maybe fought too hard
21:15at times out there, just completely sacrificing his body.
21:17He has crazy bell cow potential just because of how he operates, how thick he is, and also how nice his hands are on top of that.
21:25So he can actually play a bunch of snaps.
21:28He was the RB 11, RB 8, RB 9, 4, 14, and 15 in expected points when he was the starter there.
21:34He was a clear RB 1 during that stretch.
21:37Uh, I thought that the Giants offensive line was kind of, uh, dismantled.
21:41I think it's gonna be better this year due to health and draft picks.
21:45Uh, obviously when you have the hard balls, they want to run the ball.
21:49We saw the Jackson dark comment where they want to feed the ball to Cam Scadaboo.
21:53Uh, and I thought maybe he's a step faster than people were giving him credit for.
21:58Um, but back as a, as a prospect, there's a couple of times where he was beating guys, at least to the first down marker.
22:05He's never going to be running away from guys, but you can do a lot of fun things in the past game.
22:12He can run routes down the football field. He catches everything.
22:15And, uh, I liked Tyrone Tracy, but I just don't think that he runs nearly as hard as Cam Scadaboo.
22:21So I do feel good that he's going to be a foundational back for, for the Giants here.
22:26I don't know about obviously the ankle injury and what that's going to mean for him.
22:31I did see him do a backflip in a softball game, uh, last month, uh, which pretty on brand for Cam Scadaboo, like pushing the limits.
22:39Uh, but good news. He did land it and seemed to be moving.
22:42Okay. Yeah. We've talked about it in previous shows.
22:45Uh, it's somewhat anecdotal, but everyone that has, you know, fractured and dislocated their ankle and fracture their fibula.
22:51Uh, the last four or so big names of fancy football have seen massive drastic per touch output drop, uh, in, in their next season.
22:58I'm hoping that Scadaboo is different because he is a different kind of cat.
23:02I mean, he's a madman on the field. Uh, I know that there were questions entering the league of if he could
23:08win in the same way in the NFL as he did in college because his perceived lack of athleticism.
23:14Um, and then it's just more difficult to break a tackle.
23:17It was one for one. It was basically the same.
23:20And I would continue to add that, like, I think very little about his athletic prowess pops, but he has underrated vision
23:27and feel, I think for the position. And he just simply refuses to go down.
23:31He wants to claw scrape, lower shoulder, break through a wall, like the Kool-Aid man, uh, on, on final contact, lower his
23:37helmet to basically the turf to submarine you on top of it.
23:41He gets skinny and small between the tackles. I think really well.
23:44What also I thought translated was his kind of lack of ability to pull away in these 20 plus yard runs.
23:51But still, if you're chugging along for four, seven, eight, six, 12, 15 yard runs, then that always works because he's always finishing forward.
23:58So I wish I was a doctor. I wish I went to medical school and I knew how to project him doing
24:04this stuff because for as much as the giants have talked about running the football and utilizing running backs, they invested nothing in the position.
24:11And you would think that that means really good things for came scatter boo.
24:15And if he was healthy, boy, oh boy, this would be much earlier than the fourth round.
24:20So there's a chance that this is tremendous value for us, but I'm a little bit concerned just based on recent issues with this injury.
24:28Yeah. I think it just comes down to how much of his already priced in.
24:32He's the RB nine from week two to week, uh, seven when he was healthy.
24:37And then he's currently being drafted as what the RB 19.
24:40So like there's some level of discount. I'm hope I'm hopeful that the giants are going to be better football team this
24:46year than they were this last season. And Jackson are going into year two Francis Mount.
24:51No, it's going to certainly help. Um, so I do think at least some of this ankle injury is, is priced in
24:57here and there are some outcomes where it was too much priced in and they're just going to have a runway here.
25:04Um, and then there's no Malik neighbors part of it too.
25:07Like we don't see Malik neighbors until, you know, week five, week six, somewhere in that range.
25:12And he's not the same player. Like we're running out of options and like how many passes would he catch early in the season on top of that?
25:20Uh, last note, he had a 40 inch vertical.
25:23So like the, the really lack of athleticism, I think people just got a little bit too carried away with it.
25:29Like he's not, he's, he has too short of legs to have like, I'll be like a long distance runner here, but
25:35in the short areas, like there's some like legit power that he's playing with some short area burst.
25:41Um, and obviously like the, the crazy will. Well, you have to have a 40 inch vertical if you're going to do backflip save.
25:48Yeah. Thankfully you landed it. Cause that would not have been a good luck.
25:52Yeah. Those go hand in hand. The jumps were exceptional, obviously like the movement stuff.
25:56He didn't do any agilities, but like the, the, the running elements, uh, we're not as quick as, as other backs out there.
26:03But so often that then becomes your athletic profile is your 40 time and people stop there and stop looking.
26:09So I want it to work. I really want this to happen, uh, because you and I were huge fans and then
26:15he just kept falling in the draft. And then he goes in and has an awesome rookie season when out there on the field.
26:22So he can be like, you know, one of not one of the face of the NFL per se, but, uh, he
26:29he's up there as a personality and then play.
26:31And then in this system, if this team works, then, uh, I think we'll be seeing a lot, a lot more of
26:38came scatiboo because the backfield is scatiboo Tyron Tracy and Devin Singletary.
26:41They changed nothing about it. They added Patrick Ricard.
26:44Honestly, they're kind of twins, uh, Ricard and scatiboo.
26:47Scatiboo kind of reminds me of Mark Ingram. You know, if things go well throughout his career, like that's marking him, Mark Ingram.
26:53He's he's on broadcast next in the same round at the end of it.
26:57The 12th pick up the fourth round, Trevion Henderson as running back 20, his rookie season over 1100 total yards, 10 touchdowns on 215 touches.
27:05That's just during the regular season. Uh, he is the first Patriots running back drafted by quite a large margin.
27:11Uh, again, 12th pick of the fourth round Trevion.
27:13Then the third pick of the seventh round is Ramondre Stevenson.
27:16So what do you want to say after watching Trevion's rookie season?
27:20I think he really reminds me of Raheem Mostert.
27:23And I think that's usually a compliment. And I think that in a good offense, you can have crazy seasons from Raheem Mostert types.
27:30Trevion Henderson, when he has space is winning pretty much every single race.
27:33Uh, some of those were between the tackles when kind of the seas parted and he hit the gap and he's going to outrun the safety.
27:41Other times it was kind of just like a wall.
27:44He'd stop his feet. All the Buccaneers defenders would close in and then he would bounce it outside and then he would win those races as well.
27:52I think that there was more, uh, in the receiving game than the Patriots got to.
27:57I think part of the reason why we didn't see even more of that out of Trevion was because one Ramondre was
28:03equally as good at it, if not even better.
28:06And two, I think the one thing that was just completely shocking to me is Trevion was straight up bad in pass
28:12protection after being very good at Ohio state. When I went back and watched it, there was a couple mental reps, but
28:19a lot of it kind of just came down to he's 200 pounds.
28:22You know, like these are NFL linebackers. I think that's going to be kind of difficult to overcome.
28:28I'm hoping his vision gets a little bit kind of sped up.
28:31I think there were some times where he was kind of indecisive, especially earlier in the season.
28:36The Patriots kind of navigated that they threw him some more pitches, got him out in space a little bit more.
28:42I thought that was good coaching. I trust Trevion the person to improve in these kind of, uh, these like more mental ways going into year two.
28:50And then I have a full faith in Drake may here.
28:53So, uh, I think you can nitpick some of the parts of his game, but it's kind of like the Omari and Hampton conversation.
29:00Where when you're that fast and your offense is this good, that it's hard to get too bearish.
29:06I just think the one difference is what if like Ramondre is actually like a pretty good running back and he's just not.
29:12Well, he has a pretty good running back, you know, but I think he's pretty disrespected in fantasy for the most part.
29:19Got it. Yeah. He Ramondre was on our running back sleepers video last year.
29:23He was on the thumbnail. So, uh, we were, I mean, I was drafting both of, of these guys and certainly both had their moments last year.
29:31It's pretty simple. Like with better blocking, Trevion Henderson is going to be a more efficient runner.
29:36And I don't want us to forget how poor the Patriots run blocking was last season for the vast majority of the year.
29:43Despite them going to the Superbowl, you know, we can think about them as the Superbowl contender from the AFC.
29:48Whereas it felt like from, I don't know, weeks one through fricking 12, they could not run the ball between the tackles.
29:55Yep. And it also include the tight ends like Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper were getting whooped.
30:00And then they've made a ton of offensive line changes this off season because they saw the exact same thing that we did.
30:07You know, like Will Campbell's at left tackle, but you also draft Caleb Lomo, you know, that's hanging in the wings.
30:13You go out and sign Elijah Veritaker, who is awesome when healthy, but then injured quite frequently.
30:18And then you move your left guard to center and Jared Wilson and send away Garrett Bradbury.
30:23Who's a bit too light and too easily to move off at that center spot.
30:27So if just the blocking improves and he has given more lanes, then you're going to see just explosiveness and ridiculous speed.
30:34Uh, he had four touchdown runs last season of 50 or more yards.
30:37As you were saying, that's the most in the NFL.
30:40In fact, that's the most 50 yard touchdown runs by a rookie in a season since Saquon Barkley in 2018.
30:46Now, do I expect, you know, four more 50 yard touchdown runs next season?
30:50Probably not in the same exact way, but it is possible if, because his speed to pull away from defenders is ridiculous.
30:57It is insane. Now he has some flaws in his game.
31:00I was stunned about the pass protection. Like I'm going back and think about the Michigan state tape when he is picking
31:06up, uh, his assignments and seeing blitzes and, you know, putting his nose in there.
31:11The guys are obviously bigger and faster in the NFL.
31:14They can confuse you a bit more. The game just needs to slow down for him.
31:18I think in that area a little bit. So I want to ask you, this is the next part.
31:24Do you think it's fair that there's almost a three round gap between Trivon Henderson and Ramondre Stevenson right now?
31:30And why do you think that three round gap exists?
31:33Do you just believe that fancy drafters have this conclusion that he's just going to command this backfield and take a huge step in year two?
31:40Yeah. I think it's the younger, more exciting player, the faster players, kind of how we draft things.
31:46I think Ramondre Stevenson signed a big contract, lived up to it last year.
31:50And I think that Ramondre has advantages in two very key areas.
31:53One is pass protection and receiving. There was a couple of Ramondre Stevenson receptions.
31:57I went back and watched them were like 30 yards down the football field.
32:01And I remember one of the quotes being that Travion was supposed to be on the field, but then they didn't trust him or whatever the fuck happened.
32:10And then here comes Ramondre. And the fact that Ramondre can do those things is pretty exciting.
32:15And then the second thing is inside the five yard line, when Ramondre was out there, he handled 12 of the 16
32:21inside the five yard line carries between the two backs.
32:24And obviously when you have every bit of 40 pounds on them, that's probably going to continue here.
32:29I want Travion Henderson to play with more physicality.
32:32I think that's in pass protection. I think that's on contact between the tackles.
32:36He can obviously run between the tackles of the C parts and split defenders.
32:40And that's awesome. I think it's a little bit different.
32:43We're just talking about third and one and you got a linebacker hitting you.
32:47Are you able to kind of spin off of that and pick up the first down?
32:52I'm not sure if I saw that quite enough, which I think maybe lowers his ceiling just a little bit.
32:58But like you said, like there's proof of concept.
33:00If Ramondre misses time, Travion had 16.5 expected half PPR points in those three games.
33:05That's RB for overall stuff. Right. And we know he can run like the wind.
33:09So like the proof of concept is there if Ramondre fumbles or gets injured, then Travion could be a total stud.
33:15So I have him ranked pretty close. I think maybe this is more like, hey, Ramondre might be going a little bit too late.
33:22He's a pretty quality player in a good offense.
33:25Like let's just not completely forget about him. I was a huge believer in Trevor Henderson's talent coming into the league.
33:31I don't think I'm going to be drafting him a lot at this spot in the 12th pick of the fourth round.
33:37I mean, we're talking about the next pick being Jalen Waddle, right?
33:41Like again, the round five running backs, when you look at Dave Montgomery and the workload that he has, and maybe we're a bit too optimistic about that.
33:49But who else are we going to turn to?
33:52DeAndre Swift, Quinchan Judkins, who we'll talk about here in a moment.
33:55Judarian Price, for example. Like I kind of like these round five running backs again, more than the round four guys.
34:01And there are other wide receivers mixed in there that I'm intrigued by too.
34:06So like Terry McLaurin versus Travion Henderson. I think I'm siding with Terry McLaurin in that spot.
34:11Yep. So it's, it's tough for me to say that.
34:13I agree with a lot of what you're saying.
34:16He kind of pinballs on contact where he, if they doesn't bring him down, he kind of bounces from this tackler into this tackler into this tackler.
34:24Never forward. But at, at the same time, uh, that was with horrible blocking.
34:28And then the only thing that worked for stretches of the season were those stretch runs where those toss runs.
34:34And then like the offensive running game kind of got going a bit more, uh, after that.
34:39So, and even when Vermont was out, like they featured him in the passing game when he got to the red zone
34:45too, in terms of creating some opportunities for him in that area.
34:49So just, uh, develop a little more, like ease yourself in, feel a bit more comfortable year two in the league.
34:55And, uh, his rare speed kind of gives him, uh, a different profile than a lot of the other running backs that
35:02we talk about, you know, across the league at this point.
35:05I got him ranked right next to Basial Toon, who we'll get to in just a second here.
35:10I think a lot of those wide receivers that you just mentioned, I would rather just go there.
35:15And then just, I don't think there's maybe that big of a difference between upside and floor and the next couple running backs in a row.
35:23And like fully understanding Travion could be a top five, top 10 running back in fantasy this year.
35:28And as should every top 24 running back in, in ADP.
35:31Next is Quinchon Judkins running back 24, the seventh pick of the fifth round.
35:35I'll say it Hayden after going back and watching Quinchon Judkins in season.
35:39And for the show, I think he's the second best runner in this class.
35:43My first note is Judkins had the best rookie running back tape in 2025.
35:48So I'll even go up a notch from there.
35:50There's a couple of standout traits to me. One, he runs really hard and he's got like a great build, six foot, 221 pounds.
35:57He just is a really tough tackle straight up.
36:00I think what makes him so good though, is not the like physical traits that he has.
36:05He just plays so in control. I thought his vision was really good.
36:09He knows when to be patient. He knows when to be decisive.
36:12And then the other thing that he does is he keeps his feet underneath them.
36:16There's some other running backs who are more athletic than him in terms of the testing, but their feet get too far away from them.
36:24And it's hard to adjust where Quinchon Judkins is so balanced.
36:27He's able to pivot and make the right cut so much faster because he's just so in control.
36:32So I thought he was really outstanding as a runner.
36:35You cannot make the statistical case to back us.
36:38You just have to trust us, go put on some highlights.
36:41He's fast enough. He's not super fast. He's just fast enough.
36:44I think his play speed and his understanding of getting to the right hole on time to allow for his athletic traits to pick up.
36:52I thought he looked like one of the better running backs in the NFL.
36:56I'll take it a notch further. Let's go. I was shocked at how fast he was.
37:00I think the defensive backs in the field were shocked at how fast he was.
37:05I mean, there were plenty of times where they took an angle, more than a dozen during his rookie season, that they
37:11then were reaching for a tackle or then having to adjust while he was then picking up extra yards to even get
37:18a hand on him and then try to bring him down in the open field.
37:22I mean, one of his first runs for the season, he presses the line, bounce it to the outside, completely turns the
37:29corner on Marlon Humphrey, who again is shocked by his juice.
37:32And I think that this goes into why the stats in the film can be so different for running backs compared to
37:38almost any other position, because the underlying metrics, as you said, might not be kind for Quinshawn in a lot of cases.
37:45Then you just go and watch like 25 carries is all you need to do.
37:49Just 25. And you're like, God damn. Yeah. This guy packs a punch.
37:53He wins on contact. He gets skinny through trash.
37:55He can work on the outside. He can go to the outside and then he can also break tackles at the second,
38:02third level that lead to just crazy explosive plays.
38:05But because of the environment that he was in from the quarterback to especially the offensive line that gave him just 0.7
38:11yards on average before contact, which is third worst among all rookie running backs out there to being hit at or behind
38:17the line of scrimmage on 55% of his carries.
38:20And that's going to make those underlying numbers look poor or look average right at best, where to me, he is not average at anything.
38:27When we're talking about carrying the football, he is excellent in a whole bunch of areas.
38:32He also faced the highest amount of eight plus defender boxes, according to next gen stats at 45% of them.
38:38So not only was the offensive line bad teams did not care about the past game at all.
38:43So he was just having to navigate all that trash that you're talking about.
38:47So I thought his vision was exceptional. You have to watch running backs and like pay attention to the linebackers because that's
38:54like more or less who they're responsible for. And his feel when the linebacker creeps up into one hole and he's going
39:00to go to the backside of it is just like so, so, so fast.
39:04I think as a receiver, they didn't do a whole lot with him there.
39:08It's not like there was anything that was standing out to me that he like can't do it.
39:14I do think that Dylan Sampson is going to be one of the better past game running backs as a compliment.
39:20But Dylan Sampson is much smaller than Quinchon Jenkins, which means he handled 31 of 35 running back carries inside the five yard or inside the red zone.
39:28They didn't get to the inside the five yard line 35 times.
39:32That's a problem here. But I think we're going to run into the same issues with Quinchon that, you know, this offensive line, they got five new starters.
39:40How many of them are actually good? That's going to be a problem.
39:44The tight ends. We talked about Harold Fannin who's blocking in the tight end group.
39:48That's going to be a problem here. Yes, they haven't fully unlocked him as a receiver.
39:53That's a problem. I just know that Quinchon Jenkins is a hell of a football player, so I can only rank him so low.
40:00Well, the other thing that we're running into as well is I believe in week 16, he dislocated his right ankle and
40:06fractured his fibula on top of this. So it's a similar conversation that we had about Cam Scadaboo and the recent players
40:13who were very good fancy performers who can drop down a tier with that stuff.
40:17But Quinchon, I think if I'm just, again, reading reports and following Twitter, kind of has been participating a bit more than Cam Scadaboo so far this offseason.
40:25And a lot of the Twitter docs are surprised with how much Quinchon is at.
40:30So, like, again, not all these injuries are exactly the same, but I do want to give the same hesitancy with that statement.
40:36Yes. As I did with Scad. Yeah. And Scadaboo, that was like week eight.
40:40This was week 16. So Scadaboo, in theory, has a two-month head start.
40:44We still got, what, two months before we get started here, three months.
40:48So I think these guys will end up being fine.
40:51And I believe, like, obviously we should expect that his efficiency and workload should be lighter than it was the previous year because of the injury.
40:59The sample size that we're going off of is like three or four running backs.
41:03And, like, you know, I don't think we should, like, fully, like, just only believe in those.
41:08There could be a lot of noise here, as we know.
41:11We do this show in 15 years, and we have a lot more, unfortunately, dislocated ankles to go off of.
41:17And Judkins and Scadaboo are really young, so maybe they can be outliers.
41:21I mean, it really sucks how many times we've already talked about offensive line changes and how that's going to positively impact.
41:27And that's just a guess that it's going to, right?
41:30We did that with Ashton Gentty, obviously the Chargers, and getting rid of Bradley Bozeman and getting their tackles back.
41:36We just did it with Trevion Henderson. We did it with Cam Scadaboo, and now we're doing it here with Quinchan Judkins
41:42because, what, I don't think a single one of the starters last year is returning.
41:47It's five all starters. Some of them retired. Some of them said, I've seen enough.
41:51Yeah. And if I implore you all just to go and watch the Vikings game, it was electric.
41:56So good. And the Vikings in previous years have been one of the stingiest teams to run on.
42:02But you see Quinchan Judkins just dragging defenders, again, making safety's angles look horrible.
42:06His cuts have explosiveness. He fights on final contact to get more yards.
42:10I thought his hands were fine, but I think I have a bit more hesitation than you maybe in his pass protection.
42:16Like he's good on these cut blocks and submarines, but then he kind of stops his feet as a stand-up guy and whiffs.
42:23Again, his final season in college, he was attached to Trevion Henderson, who was very good at that.
42:28And then at Ole Miss, he had and was in a rotation always during that time.
42:33I remember our draft profile and he had so many edge runs at Ohio State that I actually compared maybe his running
42:39style or how to be used in the league to Derrick Henry and like getting him on the edge in full speed.
42:46And then he's off the races. Big body who can move.
42:49Todd Munkin coming in two years with Derrick Henry in his past.
42:52So I'm expecting for as good as the Browns can be this year, as far as they can push this for Quinn
42:59John Judkins to maximize whatever he can do. And I am honestly in love with his ADP right now in the middle of the fifth round.
43:06If I haven't already selected two running backs already in drafts.
43:10Yeah, he's better than I thought. I was looking at my comps.
43:13My comps was Kareem Hunt, which turned out to be maybe a little bit.
43:17Kareem Hunt's rookie year was incredible. Yeah. Incredible. Yep.
43:20All right. Let's talk about Basial Tootin, who is just after the turn of round five and six, the first pick of the sixth round running back 26.
43:28He played on just 21% of the offensive snaps on the Jaguars as a rookie, just 93 touches into 386 yards.
43:34You could buzz through those 93 touches in about an hour, Hayden.
43:38So in that hour, what did you see? Well, unfortunately, Josh, we have to get this one right.
43:43And that's going to be pretty difficult given, I think, Tootin's tape because I can see this one going either way.
43:49Why do we have to get it right? Because it's freaking Liam Cohen, man.
43:53I'm going to go look at the Tampa Bay Bucs and then what Travis H.
43:58And just did this last season when he was the RB 11.
44:01The good news is for Basial Tootin, he doesn't even have to be great to be a great fantasy asset.
44:07He just has to be playable. Last year, he was teetering on the play of playability.
44:12And I do want to quickly mention the Quint Allen played just as many snaps as Basial Tootin.
44:17Those 20% snaps are not going away. If it's third and Trevor Lawrence might get hit, then the Quint Allen is going to stay on the football field.
44:25Fortunately for Tootin, though, Chris Rodriguez is not on the football field.
44:29He's got a foot injury that we're going to have to figure out as we get closer to training camp.
44:35In terms of just the tape, really fun runner.
44:37I like his style of running just because he's fun to watch.
44:41He would probably drive me nuts as a coach because he's got this crazy speed.
44:45I think he plays a little bit out of control and that ends up kind of costing some game speed.
44:51He has good contact balance, but then he would kind of fumble out in space just because I can just tell things
44:57were moving really fast for Basial Tootin. So I think there's a lot of development that needs to happen with them.
45:04One of his screen touchdowns, he went to the left.
45:07All five of his linemen went to the right.
45:09He still scored a touchdown because he made a linebacker miss out in space.
45:13But it's these type of things that I think we aren't privy to of maybe why Tootin wasn't involved and maybe why
45:20they aimed for Chris Rodriguez, who has a lot of familiarity.
45:23So if he's going to be out there, he's going to score a shit ton of fantasy points.
45:28We just have to figure out exactly what percentage snaps he's going to be out there.
45:33Yeah. At the same time, they just willingly let Travis HN go.
45:36And that gives, at least in my mind, some level of confidence that they have in Basial Tootin and then kind of
45:43a smallish contract that they gave Chris Rodriguez. And we'll talk about Rodriguez here in a moment.
45:48One run kind of encapsulated Basial Tootin's rookie season for me.
45:51It was against the Arizona Cardinals. Kaleas Campbell got instant disruption through the right guard to the ground.
45:56There was an awesome jump cut to avoid him and have a two-yard loss, then gets to the field defensive back on the edge.
46:03He presses with that outside foot and perfectly cuts inside with really nice speed to avoid contact.
46:08But the next step, he just trips over himself, his own feet.
46:12And so that only equals a two-yard gain when it could have been a seven-yard gain at the very least.
46:18But if he broke another tackle or ran away from a defensive back, he could have gone and housed it.
46:24So there were multiple, I thought, opportunities where he kind of just lost control of his body.
46:29A little bit. Got over his skis. Lost balance.
46:31Slept. Tripped. All of it. That, again, stopped 12-yard runs from being like 35-yard touchdowns or 50-yard touchdowns like we saw from Trevion Henderson.
46:38At the same time, I thought he had some nice power and straightforward willingness during and near the goal line.
46:44He actually was subbed in for those situations as well.
46:47Had the same missed tackle force rate as Cam Skadaboo, who we talked about breaking all these runs to.
46:53But one cut and get upfield. And so if Liam Cohen's offense, as we saw last year, has really nice blocking and
46:59he has the game slow down for him a little bit, we know he has the speed to reach every single hole
47:05and get to every single scene at each level of the field.
47:09That that can mask maybe some of these possible vision questions.
47:12But if some of those questions were just because, you know, he was a zero-star recruit who went from one school then
47:19move up to Virginia Tech and now he's, you know, just a better player on top of it.
47:24Then we might have like the breakout player. Yes.
47:27If everything hits this year. Yeah, definitely so. And like if Chris Rodriguez foot lingers, then like it's just going to be
47:33him because LaQuint Allen just cannot move the same way that Basial Toon does it.
47:37When I was talking about Quintin Judkins playing in control and his feet being underneath him and playing more athletic than what his numbers would suggest.
47:45The inverse is true for Toon. Like those two guys watching their tape almost back to back like the next couple hours is very evident.
47:52Like one's in control. One is not. I liked when Jacksonville started just giving him a bunch of pitches.
47:58There was one game where he gave six pitches that included like at the goal line.
48:03I think maybe that kind of like just slowed things down for him a little bit, gave him a little bit more space to operate.
48:10He should be watching as much Devon H on tape as possible because that's like what he should look like.
48:16He did not look like that as a rookie.
48:18That's how it should look like. And Liam Cohen could really throw Toon some screens this year because Chris Rodriguez is not going to do that.
48:26LaQuint Allen's in there for protection reasons. So these are crazy reception seasons.
48:30Like there's a chance Toon can do that. I don't trust him past past protecting at all.
48:35And I don't like that he was running the wrong way on some routes.
48:39But like in theory, that upside does exist in fantasy.
48:42It's interesting. You know, we just talked about Mike McDaniel and how all of his running back kind of have this, you know, string through them.
48:49A through line of at least having speed, but you have the most search to the H hands to the Keaton Mitchell.
48:56So the Jalen rights, like they have something in common.
48:59Liam Cohen's running backs are kind of all different in a way.
49:02Like you go from again, Chris Rodriguez with Kentucky to Bucky Irving.
49:06They're not even great athletes. Rashad white. Yeah. And then you have Travis H and this past season.
49:11And then now you have Rachel Tootin and like the through line between all those guys is wildly different.
49:17And while like maybe the size of Tootin and Bucky Irving is somewhat similar, you could not find like any different running styles than those.
49:24Like they are drastically opposed to each other quickly.
49:27And Chris Rodriguez, because again, this is important. There's history there.
49:30There's commonality from Liam Cohen and during his time.
49:32And this was the only move that they made after, you know, Travis H and went to the New Orleans States from Ryan O'Halloran.
49:40And quote, according to a team source, Chris Rodriguez had a procedure on his left foot following an injury earlier in the
49:46offseason program, but is expected to be ready for the start of training camp in late July.
49:51Now there's been a lot of speculation. Hey, is this a Jones fracture?
49:55Is this turf toe? Is it Liz Frank? Is this a Jones fracture?
49:59For us. And we're able to get that. What?
50:01In the sixth round at this point. That's incredible.
50:04Yep. I ranked him one spot ahead of Travion Henderson.
50:07I think the profiles are almost identical for maybe slightly different reasons, but the, the upside is evident.
50:12The downside risk. We saw play out this last season.
50:15I just feel, you know, better about Ramondre Stevenson than injured Chris Rodriguez at this point.
50:20Um, so we'll see. Just to ask you about that real quick.
50:23Does that mean you have tootin way above ADP or does that mean you have Hendo way below ADP?
50:29Uh, more Hendo down below. Like, like you said, the round four or five turn, those wide receivers are pretty, pretty fun to me.
50:36So I think right after you get out of those guys, then I think I started sliding in.
50:41Quinn shot in there, uh, tootin and, uh, Travion.
50:44I feel so much better about the quince Judkins, uh, his tape.
50:47And I feel obviously way worse about his situation.
50:50So ranking those three guys in, in a row, I think I ended up in that area.
50:55Like they just get there in totally different ways.
50:57Okay. One round later, Audrey Harvey goes at the end of the seventh round as the running back 31.
51:03So five spots later at the position, um, 896 yards from scrimmage as a rookie with 12 touchdowns on 193 touches.
51:09So what'd you see from RJ Harvey after combing through his rookie tape?
51:13I, that is a really good setup for RJ Harvey to score fantasy points.
51:17The offensive line was really good. Sean Payton does a really good job of scheming things up.
51:22They all stayed healthy until bone next got injured really late.
51:25And then once JK Dobbins went down, RJ Harvey went on a really nice run in terms of fantasy.
51:31He was the RB 17 on RB 10 usage without JK Dobbins.
51:34Uh, but I think the tape was pretty hit and miss.
51:38I think there was a lot more misses than hits.
51:40Now, if he took his like three best runs of the season where he was running up the middle, bouncing off guys,
51:47and then winning with speed, you'd be completely convinced that this guy's going to go crazy in fantasy.
51:52I thought there was a lot of kind of wasted plays as well.
51:56The underlying metrics, given how good the Broncos offensive line was, was really bad.
52:0040 seconds, 40 second EPA per carry, uh, negative eight rush yards over expected.
52:04That's out of 46 qualifying running backs. Who's 32, 32nd in that last stat there.
52:09Um, and then next gen stats had him with the second highest time spent behind the line of scrimmage.
52:14I think that was maybe the more frustrating part.
52:17I thought there was some reps where he was just a little bit indecisive trying to cut things outside.
52:22He has the athleticism to make it work. Sometimes not enough athleticism to do it all the time, especially when you have
52:29one of the best offensive lines out there. So I thought his tape, there are some things that there's some explosiveness to his game that you certainly felt.
52:37I thought the rest of it is probably the reason why they gave $10 million guaranteed back to JK Dobbins, despite another, uh, season ending injury.
52:45So with a lot of the running backs, we've already talked about Hampton and the chargers scadaboo and the giants.
52:50Uh, we just talked about it with Basial tootin and Jaguars.
52:54We are looking for the runner that is going to claim the lion's share of work and potentially has not just top
53:0012 running back outcome, but maybe top five running back outcomes this season.
53:04I'll go as far as to say that's impossible with the Broncos backfield.
53:08Like this is just how Sean Payton utilizes running backs is that he gives a whole bunch of players, a whole bunch of touches.
53:15Um, not a single running back under Sean Payton has ever hit 250 carries.
53:19And that's what 13 years in the league as a play caller and a great offenses.
53:24Yeah. Yeah. Not Reggie Bush, Deuce McAllister, Alvin Kamara, Mark Ingram, Javante Williams, even two years ago.
53:29I mean, Javante Williams and RJ Harvey's actual statistical profiles in their two seasons with the Broncos is nearly identical with that stuff.
53:35So this is what Sean Payton wants. Like he wants multiple guys to touch the ball.
53:40Now, obviously RJ Harvey's going the earliest of these Broncos guys.
53:43And how I can pitch that is actually 25 different running backs have hit 50 targets with Sean Payton and RJ Harvey was just the 25th.
53:51And some of those plays were some of his best across the entire season.
53:55And especially when we talk about the red zone.
53:58Um, I mean, he had the same number of red zone targets last year as a flowers and had three more touchdowns
54:04inside the red zone than Zay flowers. It just in receptions and receiving yards.
54:08Yep. And that's not even talking about the goal line stuff.
54:11I mean, he had five touchdowns within the five yard line.
54:14All of those were in, in close games. Um, there were about six or seven times when they got in the red
54:21zone where they called like this bootleg, right? With him slipping out.
54:24Uh, or he was inserting after this weird alignment that was even outside the tackle through the line of scrimmage and then catching the ball.
54:32So I think that it's impossible to make good on a second round draft capital that the Denver Broncos spent on RJ
54:38Harvey to say, well, he's just insert blank lead running back on an NFL team.
54:43Instead, I think that Sean Payton and I'll be at Davis web is quote unquote calling plays.
54:48Now wants to utilize these three running backs in different ways.
54:51And namely two and JK Dobbins and RJ Harvey and how RJ Harvey's kind of like found his role in this.
54:57Now, what does that mean for fancy purposes? Does that mean he's a good pick or a bad pick?
55:03I'm still deciding that at this point, but, uh, that's kind of where I am at with his standing in this offense at this moment.
55:10I think he's a committee back. I think he's a pass, uh, pass game back.
55:14That's how Sean Payton utilize them. There's a history.
55:17Like you keep mentioning with the Sean Payton, uh, they get into roles and it's hard to shake out of those.
55:23When JK Dobbins was healthy, RJ Harvey was the RB 36 on RB 54 usage.
55:27That's in half PPR. He's being drafted as the RB 31.
55:31So like the market is expecting, uh, RJ Harvey to play a lot more than he did, uh, with JK Dobbins.
55:37And we haven't brought up Jonah Coleman, who I think is at least somewhat interesting because Jonah Coleman was a bell cow.
55:43He's not very splashy, but Jonah Coleman. I do think if JK Dobbins misses time, Jonah Coleman would eat into some of
55:50the touches that RJ Harvey was getting without, uh, JK Dobbins this last year.
55:54Like I think that the upside case in terms of like ranking in terms of handcuffs, I do think takes a hit because Jonah Coleman is involved.
56:02So I think in full PPR and a deep league and stuff, I think that there's like some interesting outcomes for, for RJ Harvey.
56:09Uh, I don't think I was sold on this tape and it wasn't even just Jake, uh, JK Dobbins returning and the Jonah Coleman selection.
56:16They were like linked to Jadarian price in the draft.
56:19They were linked to Travis H and Kenneth Walker, every big running back.
56:23Sean Payton made sure to get on K Adams podcast and say, Hey, we're, we're looking to, to find, uh, this next guy.
56:29They ultimately settled on $10 million guaranteed shaky Dobbins, which is more money than I was expecting.
56:34Yeah. But it's just a one-year contract, you know?
56:37Yeah. But 10 million is like, that's, that's pretty good.
56:40You know? Uh, so I think like week one comes around, guess who's going to be leading this team in touches.
56:46It'll be JK Dobbins. And right now he's getting price way down.
56:50Now that's not how we should be ranking these guys in fantasy long-term, but in my rankings, like the JK Dobbins stuff
56:56is every year is a career year until it's not because he has average like seven and a half games played per season in his NFL career.
57:04Yeah, definitely. So, so I have him pretty close in my rankings.
57:08I think early on the season, it will definitely be JK Dobbins.
57:11JK Dobbins is somehow only 27 years old. So if you can figure this thing out and like, I mean, I don't know what his leg.
57:19I want, trust me, if we had a 17 games of JK Dobbins, it would be freaking sweet.
57:24And I hate trying to predict injuries, but like at some point, you know, we can all say he's on pace for this.
57:31And then it's just impossible for like, if JK Dobbins fulfilled his on pace stats every single year, he'd be a hall of pro at this point.
57:39You know, he literally went. And so it just hasn't happened.
57:42Yeah. But what we do know is that like, again, RG Harvey, 47 passes.
57:46That's running back eight in the NFL last year, 350 plus yards.
57:49That's running back eight in the NFL and five receiving touchdowns.
57:53That's running back three in the NFL last season.
57:55I also like, we can talk about how much JK Dobbins more work.
57:59He had then RG Harvey to start the season.
58:02I don't think that we're going to get the same difference, the same split in that to open the season after, you
58:08know, you do have RG Harvey, you know, seeing the vast majority of the running back work.
58:13Like, I don't think he's going to have anywhere from five to seven touches in the first eight games of last season of this season.
58:20Again, if that makes sense. Yeah. I have both of them in my RB thirties.
58:25Neither of them are inside my top 32 fantasy running backs.
58:28And I think it'll be a committee, like you said, and like, that's not even factoring in or that's factoring in Jonah
58:35Coleman, like going to get, he's not getting zero touches.
58:37Jonah Coleman, he's going to get five and he can get some goal line work too.
58:42Cause he's Jonah Coleman's a big boy too. I mean, he's like five, eight, but two 20.
58:47So he's an interesting guy, like very different than RG Harvey.
58:50In my opinion, I'm not running off RG Harvey either.
58:53Just improving. Yeah. Once, once, once he gets into the league in his second season.
58:58So that's a possibility. They are quite close just in terms of running back rankings overall.
59:02It's running back 31 and running back 35. Let's win the two.
59:06Okay. Let's talk common on guy who really became a channel favorite during last preseason.
59:10Just the more you dug into the depth chart.
59:13The more we were advocating him as what a round 15 plus pick last year.
59:17Uh, and then just like Deandre Swift from about week seven on you saw real strides, both with him and this running
59:24game and how they leaned into the strength. So right now he's being selected as running back 33.
59:29The seventh pick of the eighth round. Uh, is this one of the more straightforward evaluations that you saw?
59:35It really is. I like the ADP. I have him ranked ahead of RG Harvey, uh, in fantasy.
59:40I think that he's definitely better than RG Harvey in terms of the rookie tape.
59:44I think he plays with a ton of energy.
59:47He plays with a ton of contact balance and then he's not crazy athletic, but he's definitely athletic enough.
59:52He reminds me stylistically of Isaiah Pacheco, but like Isaiah Pacheco actually moving forward, like, like, you know, in an efficient matter.
59:59It's just like, he plays with all that energy that you love.
60:02And I think that he has a little bit different of a style than Deandre Swift.
60:07Ben Johnson understood that they had a little bit different type of carries they would get to.
60:12They ultimately, by the end of the season, were rotating drives one-to-one where Swift would get the first drive out of each half.
60:19And then Manungai would get the next. That was enough to kind of be where this ADP is in like the low RB 30s.
60:26And then there were some games where Manungai went absolutely crazy because, uh, their right guard, right tackle combination was as good as it gets.
60:33Ben Johnson's outstanding. Uh, and I think Kyle Manungai is a rock solid player.
60:37So I thought if Deandre Swift didn't improve last year on tape, I think we'd be like, all right, Manungai might just take this whole thing over.
60:45I'm not expecting that to be the case, but if it did, there's no RB three right now.
60:50And Manungai would be vaulted really high up in our weekly ranking.
60:54So I think right now he's kind of priced at his like median outcome.
60:58And I think it's way more likely that he like breaks out than he completely goes away.
61:03It is so fitting that he is right next to Blake Corum when it comes to running back selected, because at times
61:09it was two for one for both in terms of two drives to Deandre Swift and Kyron Williams.
61:15And then one drive to a non guy and Blake Corum.
61:18Then there were other contests where it was literally one for one as well.
61:22And you saw some really nice moments, uh, from both.
61:25Manungai 187 touches, 947 yards and five scores. He's just a bowling ball.
61:29He's a bumper car. It goes into everything that you said.
61:32Now you would think maybe with that style, he would pull away and like totally break tackles more often.
61:38He was down at right around league average at 0.15 in terms of his missed tackles forced rate.
61:43Yeah, but it kind of goes to he's falling forward on final contact to pick up those two or three yards and
61:49not fully breaking it and like playing on the edges of these defenders.
61:53And they're like grabbing his jersey or grabbing at his ankles.
61:56And then he reels off another seven or eight.
61:59Um, but once again, what a seventh round pick he was and what extreme confidence Ben Johnson must have in him heading
62:05into year two where someone with the lions, how they invested so much in the running back position is just running it back.
62:12With Deandre Swift and common guy. And when I'm guy is just so much of a superior player to Roshan Johnson, who
62:19was selected in the fourth round just a few years earlier.
62:22Yeah. Well, I just didn't have the athletic traits to like really overwhelm.
62:26So he's about as good as he possibly can be.
62:29Um, and I think that's a really fun player because the bears offense should be inside the top 10.
62:34There's I had to call it two quick plays on the non guy.
62:38One happened in the second game of the season.
62:41The lions were smoking the bears. They were up 31.
62:43There was 40 seconds left. They give the ball to Kyle men, guy with obviously nothing to play for.
62:49And just like truck sticks to lions defenders, like in the last minute.
62:53And then another play where, uh, Kyle men, guy was supposed to be like chip blocking, uh, next to Colston Loveland Colston Loveland, completely bodied one-on-one pass protection.
63:01But none guy slips out, uh, just using his head, catches a pass, break some tackles for a very, very clutch, uh,
63:07first down, uh, in that game as well. So there's just like really fun moments with column and none guy.
63:13I can tell that Ben Johnson really trust him.
63:16So him and Blake Corum, I like, these are the type of guys that I gravitate towards.
63:21Like I would much rather take a chance that I have like a bi-week fill in with a chance to really matter
63:27rather than like some of these guys. Like, you know, uh, maybe Jalen Warren, RJ Harvey, these guys where I just don't see quite the same level ceiling.
63:36Like I do with menungi or Corum. Okay. Is the potential outcome and high end outcome for Kyle menung guy, uh, that
63:42he is the new version of Jamal Williams for this team.
63:45Now, if you just look at the Chicago bears last year, we know that they were ninth in terms of scoring on offense.
63:52But I wonder just based on body type and how common on guy maxes everything that he does.
63:57And now he's, you know, not a seventh round rookie.
64:00He's now a second year player in this offense.
64:03If he can kind of at least flip flop with Deandre Swift in terms of attempts inside of the 10 yard line.
64:09So last season, Swift had 24 of those carries menung guy had 19.
64:13So it was somewhat close, but like, what if this year when I'm guys, the one that gets 25 and Deandre Swift's
64:20the one that goes down to about 19 or 18.
64:22There might be two like typecasting them a bit of their archetypes.
64:26But if again, I think there's such a big difference of, Hey, we spent a final round pick on this guy.
64:32We'll see how he turns into camp and Oh, he's earning a bit more as the season goes along versus, Oh, now we are implementing him and planning.
64:40On him being a solidified part of this offense from week one.
64:44Yeah, I would expect it's just going to be the drive by drive rotation.
64:48I don't see any reason to lose sight of that.
64:51Deandre Swift, this is his last year on the bears, but he's also making $9 million coming off a pretty good season there.
64:58So I wouldn't expect too much to change like in terms of like baseline outcomes for common on.
65:03And by the way, you mentioned Jamal Williams. Somebody came up to me at Motsu's over in Huntington Beach, one of my favorite like Tepan tables.
65:10Tables said he recognized me from from the show.
65:13He said, thank you for telling me to draft Jamal Williams a couple years ago.
65:18I won a championship. So shout out to you.
65:20Love that. I've had that with Tyrone Tracy and Rico.
65:23So yeah, people really pay attention to our hits, which I appreciate.
65:27We have one more name, at least actually two.
65:29Let's talk about Bill. All right. Things got a bit out of hand last preseason with the seventh round rookie of the Washington Commanders.
65:36And now he's going back to back with his running mate in Washington.
65:40Rashad White is running back 39 at the end of the 10th round.
65:44And Bill, one pick later, is running back 40, the first pick of the 11th round.
65:49So he had 184 touches last year for 873 yards and eight touchdowns.
65:52So is this another backfield that we just have to get right?
65:56I would say less so because I'm not convinced anyone in this backfield is all that great.
66:01And then you got the Jaden Daniels of it.
66:03You got a new offense here. I'll talk about the positives with with Bill here.
66:08I thought his vision and patience for how complicated the Cliff Kingsbury offense was, was pretty outrageous.
66:13There's like a lot of times where tight ends are flashing across and you got to be really patient as a running back.
66:20And I thought he was able to do that.
66:22I thought his straight line speed was pretty good.
66:25Nothing too crazy. It's definitely faster than Rashad White and definitely, definitely faster than Katron Allen.
66:30So I would label him as the most explosive back on the, uh, in the backfield.
66:34Uh, there's absolutely no proof of concept in the receiving game.
66:37And we have all the proof of concept that you'd possibly need from Rashad White.
66:42So I'm kind of trending towards this going to be a committee backfield.
66:46Who's going to be the goal line back? I think that is a very fair question.
66:50That's pretty impossible to answer right now. I'm going to really base, uh, training camp reports out of anything.
66:56Cause Rashad White's a little bit bigger than Ja'Cory Kroski merit, but he's not, not like a power back.
67:01And then Katron Allen, I think is really physical, but we're talking about a six round rookie here.
67:07So it's one of these things where like Ja'Cory Kroski merits better than where he was drafted.
67:12He's not like the next Devon H and or anything like that.
67:15And I'm expecting this to be a committee backfield.
67:18So this is like typically one of the profiles.
67:21I'm not going to draft a whole lot, but I think this is like a, about where he should be going in best ball.
67:28Interesting. I really liked this price tag for bill.
67:30And I really liked this price tag for Rashad White.
67:33Uh, I'm just optimistic and I'm really liked the price tag for Terry McLaurin.
67:37Maybe I'm just anticipating like a big step up here with the Washington commanders, but I think they have all the pieces.
67:44You know, when we talk about the quarterback and the wide receiver and what I think the play color is going to
67:50bring to the table and accentuate this offensive line a little bit, that maybe we've lost sight of kind of the upside
67:57case, I think for the commander's offense. And again, I think we're getting a discount with a lot of these pieces.
68:03And I think it's really defined between these two.
68:05Like Rashad White is one of the best pass protecting third, fourth down players in the league.
68:10And so the question is, does he come in here and does bill falter?
68:14And so in that case, does Rashad White who struggles in pure running situation, who struggles on first and second down, just
68:21kind of get you by in those cases. Do they just turn to that watching all the bill stuff?
68:26Like, I think it's good. You know, he's, as you said, much better than a seventh round rookie.
68:32He kind of plays super wide. Like his strides are incredibly long.
68:35His jump cuts are incredibly long. And it's fascinating when you look at the running back stances before the ball is snapped, you see guys like Jameer Gibbs.
68:43So it's very narrow. A bunch of other running backs is narrow bills is like the widest in the league.
68:49And it's also his same running style. So that can kind of make it.
68:53So he doesn't have these sudden steps to allude defenders as much, but then in everything that's in phase.
68:59And as you said, when he's kind of riding this wave, it is like super fluid.
69:04He's surfing, cutting between the lines with that stuff.
69:06And then his strides really do true up a bunch of ground.
69:10So like the stretch style can be a good thing, but it can also be a negative because when a, you know,
69:16a DB or a safety or a linebacker squares them up and he's almost certainly going down.
69:21So yeah, I like both these price acts. I'm willing to draft both of these backs because we know bill's not cracking into what Rashad White's doing.
69:29I mean, he fumbled four times last year and only caught nine passes all of last season.
69:34Yeah. I said it the same way. I don't think he's very agile for somebody.
69:38That's not like the biggest back out there. And I think that's just going to cap his ceiling, but he does surf
69:45like you're talking about in that really wide stance.
69:48I tweeted out that bill should be drafted higher this year than his ADP last year.
69:52That was both. He's a little bit priced too low right now.
69:56And last year, some of you guys got pretty, pretty aggressive out there.
70:00He did close the season strong his last four games.
70:02He was the RB 16 on RB 28 usage.
70:05That's a four game sample size. So don't get too carried away there, but he had a couple of, a couple of explosives there.
70:12I think he's going to like, they're going to be able to hold the line.
70:17And Rashad White is on a one year, $2 million contract.
70:20Nothing. Bill is a seventh rounder and they're running their third running back is a sixth rounder.
70:25So this is as little investment as you will ever, ever, ever, ever see in a position.
70:30I'm sure they were trying to get Jeremiah Love or whatever the case may be.
70:34Or they're just trying to, you know, NBA this and do all analytics.
70:38It's a, it's a true, like let the best man win.
70:41And I don't think that Bill Krosky merit is like behind Rashad.
70:45Why? I think that's a true toss up. I also need to have a Katron Allen show me a little something in
70:51preseason before I even like take him seriously and turn this into a three headed backfield versus a two.
70:57Like he needs to bill it or menungi it a little bit for me to take it seriously.
71:02If that's okay with you. Yes. But Katron Allen is like Mr.
71:05Dirty work. And if you want to burn an 18th round pick on Katron Allen, like by all means, I think you can do it.
71:13Just on bill. Well, as you said, he was drafted in closed drafts last year as the running back 34.
71:19And now he's being drafted as a running back 40.
71:22When we have more information. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's a fine player.
71:25Let's close with Woody marks 12th pick of the 12th round running back 45.
71:29This team did make a huge move. Uh, in terms of adding quote unquote competition for him.
71:34And maybe it's no longer a competition because Dave Montgomery was traded.
71:38And now again, is being selected as running back 21 and compare that to the running back 45 here for what he marks.
71:45So does this allow Woody just to go back to role player status?
71:48I think he should be a role player. I think he's a past guy.
71:53This that's not, uh, anything outrageous here. If you guys studied his, uh, USC tape and Mississippi state tape, he's like air raid passed down back.
72:00He's just not that great of an athlete. He's one of these guys that plays kind of in the same speed, no
72:07matter where he is in the rep. Uh, and I don't really mean that as, as a compliment.
72:12I think there were some times where I saw a crease available to him and he's like, did not have enough to kind of burst through.
72:20And I think that's going to lower his ceiling, especially when you're talking about one of the five worst offensive lines annually.
72:26And I, I mean, maybe there's a chance that Texans get a little bit more bully ball this year, just looking at
72:32some of their investments that they're, what they're trying to do.
72:36I'm not sold. That's going to absolutely click this year, not completely sold on the offensive coordinator either right now.
72:41So I think Woody marks versus David Montgomery, like this version of David Montgomery, it's not that dissimilar in terms of, of player.
72:48I think that David Montgomery just has a lot more pop on his pads, uh, than Woody marks, but I don't think
72:55that David Montgomery is so much better than Woody marks at this point of his career.
72:59That's not saying that Woody marks is like a great player, um, by any stretch, but I think that he could get drafted.
73:06If you're like in a 12 person league and just looking for handcuffs, I think that Woody marks like passes that at least that threshold question.
73:14Do you think the Houston Texans believe that Dave Montgomery is way better than Woody marks?
73:18It does sound like it. Uh, we'll see. I mean, David Montgomery, that's a lot of touches and third, third team.
73:25Uh, you know, maybe I, I've always loved David Montgomery.
73:27I think like this is about the time of career where you started to like second guess things a little bit.
73:34I think they were really going to try to make David Montgomery a work.
73:38So, um, I think I have their ADPs maybe a little bit more squished together than what it is on underdog where they're like completely separated.
73:45Uh, and that's not even me liking Woody marks is tape very much.
73:49I'm going to give you some Woody marks stats that actually turn into Dave Montgomery stats.
73:54Okay. Uh, we know that last year, this team, the Texans were one of the worst in terms of red zone touchdown
74:00success rate, I think like bottom two or three in the league.
74:04A big part of that is Woody marks and just the overall team rushing standpoint.
74:08Again, another team that has gone through massive offensive line overhauls and changes.
74:12Hopefully that helps for the second straight off season.
74:15Uh, but then it's also Woody marks 32 carries inside of the 20 yard line equal to touchdowns for him.
74:20Yeah. It was not good. Those 32 carries were the same number that Bijan Robinson had in the red zone.
74:26Uh, one less than Dave Montgomery had in the red zone, two less than chase Brown, three lap, four less than, uh, say one Barkley.
74:34So like Woody marks had a lot of opportunities in that area.
74:37Now, a lot of it might not be his fault because again, they just could not block up front, but, um, Dave
74:44Montgomery, we're going to talk about him all summer.
74:46If you just zoom out, this is the dead zone profile of just imparting a hell of a lot of opportunity and
74:53red zone work on a player who is declining.
74:55Right? So if it hits, obviously it's all baked in.
74:58It works out. You score touchdowns, but we've seen in many other cases, it just doesn't work out, but I just don't
75:05know of how much faith I have in Woody, but at least he's shown that, uh, he has held down that role in the past.
75:12I'll be it with hit or miss success. Woody marks is really good at pass protection.
75:17So if there was like one thing, it just, he's, he's a reliable player.
75:21He's seen everything in terms of blitzes and stuff, just based off the college offenses that he was in.
75:26And that's how he was, uh, drafted that if you listen to the comments from the team right after they drafted them, that's what they were hoping for.
75:35They got maybe a little bit more on early downs because Nick Chubb wasn't cutting it.
75:39Uh, I think, yeah, ultimately I think it's just kind of a systemic, you know, Texans offensive line issue here.
75:45That's going to hold all of them back. So I appreciate Woody marks for what he is.
75:50Like, he's kind of like almost like a coach's pet.
75:53He's B minus Rashad white. Is this getting you fired up?
75:56No. Okay. I've got one more question for you.
75:59We're, you know, only an hour and 16 minutes into this episode, which of these running backs when you reviewed all of
76:05them surprise you the most for good or bad?
76:08Um, I remember watching Quintra Jenkins and I mean like this guy's really impressive when you kind of just like watch all
76:14these guys one after another, what he's doing in terms of the vision stuff was just like really standing out.
76:20Like there was elements of like other physical traits or effort or receiving stuff that stood out.
76:25He was kind of like the only one that was like, man, he just like reads everything out really well.
76:31And that's a very tough trait to have as a rookie.
76:34Um, but I think the big takeaway second to that is so many of these guys were playing through injuries or had
76:41a devastating injury and that's just going to make, it's already a tough thing to go through all these played behind a devastating offensive line.
76:48Yes. And like, it's already hard enough trying to like judge these guys off of one year when we have like these
76:55huge factors that are like not necessarily in our control after tape studies, like makes this thing even harder to kind of work through.
77:02You know, we just claimed that, you know, Ashton Gentry's offensive line and Martin Hampton's offensive line and Cam Scadaboos and Trevion
77:08Henderson's and Quinchan, that they're all just going to improve.
77:11And sometimes that is not how it works, but that's not how it's going to work.
77:16So, uh, hopefully it does. That would be really great.
77:19I totally agree with what you said about Quinchan.
77:21Just one final thought on Amari and Hampton. There's going to be a lot of jokes this off season of, oh, he's
77:28going to be a great handcuff for Keaton Mitchell this season.
77:31Um, that is an outcome here that the flaws and everything that we said and spotted in a Martin Hampton's game, even
77:37dating back to his time at UNC, uh, could keep him from being a workhorse in the league.
77:43At the same time, I think it's more likely that the running system that he is in just masks his flaws and accentuates his strengths.
77:50And so this is one of the players where I have obvious flaws in my head that it can lead to negative
77:56outcomes, but I almost want to minimize those and focus in on the positives just because of the environment that he's in.
78:03Yep. That's why coaching matters. Offensive line matters. And I think those two things in particular, whoever the play caller is the offensive line.
78:10I think those are like some of the last things that give you like a true edge in fantasy football.
78:16Uh, I think it's more important than ever now that the running backs are priced where they should be, which is really high up.
78:23Yep. I also really enjoyed baseball toons 93 touches at times.
78:26They were fun. They were fun. Like it was, it was, uh, I'm sure Liam Cohen was having less fun than we were.
78:33Uh, like I kept rooting for him. Yeah. We might get to do a lot of that this season.
78:38All right. That does it. We have wide receivers tomorrow.
78:41Uh, this is a lot of preparation goes in these episodes.
78:44So hopefully you watch it. Hopefully you share it with a friend and hopefully you tune into these shows that we put out all summer long.
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79:04We'll talk to you guys soon. See ya.
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