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0:26Welcome back to the Minicom Show featuring Lenny. Week two reactions, Monday night football.
0:30Winners and losers. Ben Solek, always a winner in my book, is here to discuss what was kind of a disappointing Giants Rams game.
0:37We're gonna pick some winners and losers. Bengals might make an appearance.
0:41Broncos just sit tight for the second half of this podcast.
0:44But we're gonna start with last night's game. Disappointing, of course, because it's a win.
0:48Because Giants quarterback Jackson Dart got hurt on the very first drive of the game.
0:52We're gonna talk about that and what it means in the next few games as we all wait for the injury news
0:59and the seriousness of it to come in. But I figure we should start off by talking about the Rams, who, of
1:05course, won the game and looked a lot better than they did week one against San Francisco.
1:10Afterwards, Sean McVay blamed himself, fell on his sword a little bit for the travel plans.
1:14So I want to start with the Rams offense because the Rams defense is like at one point in the broadcast.
1:20Aikman, who, by the way, my kink is I love Aikman on bad games.
1:24A hundred percent. It's the exact same thing. Whenever there's a big injury on Monday night football, I'm like, oh, no, so disappointing.
1:31Primetime game. And then the little voice man says, wait a minute.
1:34Troy Aikman has to watch this game now for the next 45 minutes.
1:38Or just bad quarterbacking. There's no person. I think there's no announcement.
1:41I mean, Aikman's obviously amazing and Bucks really good, too.
1:44I know we're company people, whatever. But I love his palpable disgust when he watches bad quarterbacking.
1:49And he's honest, too, which I also like. He doesn't try to spin it.
1:53Although he did make one comment that made me laugh.
1:56When he was talking about the Rams defense struggling week one.
1:59And he was like, seems like they figured something out against New York.
2:03And I was like, yeah, they figured out that it's Jameis Winston on the opposing team.
2:07There was a lot of there was a lot of good like, oh, you know, darts down.
2:12But the Giants have invested in QB, too. Like Jameis is out there and like Jameis will be fine.
2:18It's like, listen, firstly, there's no such thing as a good QB, too.
2:21And secondly, the QB, too is always good in his first start.
2:25It's never when you get dropped into a Monday Night Football game in week two in a new offense that you're like ripping it down the field.
2:32He's no Drew Locke. Dude, Drew. OK, so I watched the Drew film two hours ago.
2:37Are we going to do Drew Locke like reclaimed quarterback this offseason?
2:40It feels like we're going to do it. He looks good.
2:43Well, he also just he plays. He plays like he's playing with house money, which is what Jameis, you know, hypothetically plays like he's just younger.
2:51The CX offensive line was very good. We're not getting to that.
2:54OK, back to the Rams. Sorry. Tangent. Don't get out there.
2:57Well, honestly, there's gonna be a lot of backup quarterbacks playing in week three and different levels of acumen from them.
3:03And we did see some of them in this week, of course, with both Caleb Williams and Jane Daniels getting hurt.
3:09So the Rams offense did have Pukunikua in this game.
3:12And it obviously didn't matter because they put up 28 points.
3:15But some interesting things I thought. So one of which was we just got.
3:19What's the word other than vintage to use? Classic.
3:22Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this was just Devante Adams just reminding us why he is one of the best to do it.
3:2810 targets, eight catches for 195 yards. Ben, it just felt like everything.
3:32First of all, the Giants did have a very injured secondary in this game.
3:36Not that. I mean, but I wasn't watching Devante Adams and thinking, you know, Dion Banks would really stop that corner out.
3:42But he was just automatic. The fades, the back shoulders, the touchdown, the corner.
3:46I mean, it just felt like there was the one insane catch he made where Stafford actually missed him, but he reached
3:52back and plucked it at the last second. That was sick.
3:55He's just absurd. He's just so good. Yeah. And on that one, Stafford's like trying to no look at.
4:01And then Stafford goes to look at late because I think he sees out of the corner of his eye that Devante
4:07is kind of moving the route a little bit different than where Stafford expected.
4:11And so Stafford just ends up right throwing a bullet, not in the correct spot.
4:15And then Devante catch technique on top of the rim.
4:18Full extension is crazy. The goal line touchdown against the rookie Colton Hood, who is not even supposed to be starting.
4:24I know. You're a second round pick being forced into isolation.
4:27No safety up with the goal line against Devante Adams.
4:30And all corners are confident, guys. You know Colton's just standing there being like, not like this.
4:35Please, no. Not this guy. I had the wonderful experience of explaining to my wife, who is not a football watcher, didn't
4:41grab watching football at all, who Devante Adams was.
4:44That guy right there was the GOAT receiver in 2019-2020.
4:47It's 2026. And even back then, he was not the fastest guy.
4:50On the stick and nod where he, you know, the big, big second down towering throw down the field, Devante catches it.
4:56And then you're like, all right, touchdown. And he just gets immediately hawked out like the 15.
5:01I was like, for him to be, just forgive me, that slow, that not fast, and still be able to produce like
5:08this is such a testament to how technically gifted that individual player is.
5:11Skilled sliders up to 100, even if the athleticism sliders may be down to like, you know, 1520 at this point.
5:17Yeah. Teach tape, all the little things he does, top of his routes, the hand, late hands, the contested catch ability, the tracking, all of it.
5:25He's unbelievable. Body control. The other thing I thought was notable in the passing game was they really wanted to make Terrence Ferguson happen in this game.
5:32Yes. And so he had the second most targets, nine.
5:35He caught six for 54 yards and a touchdown.
5:38He had, he had some drops and this was expected, right?
5:41Because no Pukunikua, you know, they're going to lean a bit more on 13 personnel, but even outside of that, Terrence Ferguson
5:47has to be the wide receiver three in this offense.
5:50And look, Nukua is going to come back, but realistically, Nukua slash Devontae are probably going to miss more games at some point this season.
5:57So I do, it did feel a little bit like the Rams, like committing to getting Ferguson, his opportunities in this game,
6:03almost to set up the rest, you know, this season is about developing him as a third option.
6:08And I posted during the game, the targets to Ferguson will continue until morale improves.
6:13And I mean, that was right. He had the drops and they come back the very next drive and they release him
6:19through the line of scrimmage to get him a design touch where it's like, we're going to come back to the well, like you're going to have drops.
6:27You're going to have bad moments. We need you to be able to be reliable.
6:31Also, like, like they talked a lot in year two of Ferguson in the off season about he's learning all the roles in the offense.
6:38He's learning X, he's learning Z, he's learning everything.
6:41His usage in this game as, you know, five yards speed out safety valve against, you know, quarters is so dramatically different than last year where it was.
6:49Terrence Ferguson has an air yards per target of 96, right?
6:52Like everything was like, he's a vertical tight end, you know?
6:55So in year one, it was, wow, we think we have this like field stretching player at tight end.
7:01This is cool. This is nifty in year two.
7:03It's okay. If we need you to, can you become a like Tyler Higbee route guy for us?
7:08We're just running flats and just arrows and outs and we can dump the ball.
7:13You can create the yards after the catch and you can catch it reliably.
7:17Now, even on his six catches a night, he was fighting the football, right?
7:21I mean, and this was a problem even last year too, where his contested catch rate, his catch away from frame rate needs to get better.
7:28If they're going to use him as a high volume guy when the courier Devante goes down.
7:33So good to see them pilot it. Guys got to get softer hands.
7:36It's been an issue for him. So part of the Rams offensive success in this game, a big part of it.
7:42Well, okay. There's kind of two sides of it had to do with the giants, like a pass rush, which I want
7:49to get to, but the giants like a pass rush had a lot to do with the Rams run football down their throat.
7:55So in the football, I love it. So Blake Corham and Kyron Williams, 24 carries at 6.8 yards per carry.
8:01And they were running. Is that good? It's 6.8 solid.
8:04Well, they ran the ball really well in week one.
8:07Stafford was just to shelve himself in that game.
8:09But, you know, the giants, so all off season, I think my question with the giants was last year, you had this
8:15great pass rush, but you never really got third downs because you can stop the run.
8:20Can you stop the run better? Week one looks really good.
8:23This, you know, like they, this was a real run game.
8:26One of the best run games in the NFL, honestly, top three, and they just couldn't do it.
8:31And I will say though, beyond that, and I think, again, I think the run game had a lot to do with
8:38that because they did get Stafford into some third downs, but even on those third downs, it just felt like outside of
8:44that one great sack where Abdul Carter splits the double team, this giant's pass rush was not getting it done at all in this game.
8:51Matthew Stafford was pressured on just 15% of drop backs.
8:54He went two for four for 25 yards in those pressures, but didn't matter because he was kept clean and he threw for 300, kept clean.
9:01The giants four man rush in this game had a 9% pressure rate.
9:05If you just give me that stat, you're going to, I know, I know the Rams won, right?
9:10Like any Rams game. It's almost like, you know, you like there's stats where you can like, okay, if the bills have a success rate, run the football.
9:18If Matthew Stafford is facing a team where he's pressured under 30% of the time, the Rams have won the football game.
9:24And it was dismal, honestly. In this game. You gotta, you gotta earn your pass rush snaps.
9:29It's been, it's a truism of coaching since 1940, whatever, right?
9:32Where it's like, you, you don't get to just run out in NASCAR and first and 10, every single play, because you
9:39will just give up upfield rushing lanes and just teams like the Rams will just lean on you five yard chunk you
9:45and just walk you down the field. It's exactly what happened.
9:48Right. And it's been the concern with, okay. Like I know even in 2025 with Dexter Lawrence there, they were still bad run defense.
9:55I think that a lot to do with the linebackers.
9:58And I think Dexter was not necessarily healthy. But if you're going to go this light at the edge rusher position, Brian
10:04Burns, Michael Carter came on Thibodeau and also prioritize penetration on the interior defensive line.
10:08Okay. You know, Darius Alexander, Chauncey Golston, you're going to take on water.
10:12Now they tried, right? They added DJ Reed and they added Shelby Harris.
10:16You added two defensive tackles over 30, whose numbers have been going down for years.
10:20You added the names, but the impact's not there.
10:22And just any team that can functionally run the ball between the tackles with big, thick, strong double teams is going to do this to the Giants.
10:30And so they proved otherwise that they can stop them.
10:33And, and I do not see the personnel. I do not see the, the schematic buttons to press that you're going to
10:39be able to, to get away with fielding a core, a defensive tackle and linebacker, a defensive tackle and edge room, excuse me.
10:46That is this light. That is this easy to move off the ball.
10:50I mean, and the Rams are the pinnacle of duo teams.
10:53So maybe it's not as dire as it seems to me, but I mean, even though, the Cowboys just got so much movement on the interior.
11:00I don't know. It freaks me out. Yeah. The only thing stopping the Rams run game is the Rams running back.
11:06I'm like, I tell you, man, I, Kyron, he's lost so many fumbles and Blake Corham looks so good.
11:11And every single game, Tyron's back out. There's a primary ball carrier.
11:15I don't know. I need Sean. Fumble two in this game.
11:18He just recovered it. He bounced it himself. So I agree, but I was like, God guys, I get it.
11:24He's the one who's historic fumble numbers. I know he does.
11:27And I just, I just, Sean loves him so much.
11:30And I just, I want to understand that relationship, man.
11:33He's a good receiver. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So let's just kind of, I think the concerns about the Giants defense are noted
11:39in the fronts and it feels like there's a through line between the Giants defense and the offense, which is, I don't
11:45want to call them front runners, but these are, I think both sides of the football are built to play from ahead and not from behind.
11:52And you really saw that in this game. We'll get to the offense in a second, but you know what I mean?
11:59Like that Giants defense, I feel good about with the lead feel less good about when you're certainly when you're playing from
12:05behind, but especially if you're going to play against a dominant rushing team like LA.
12:09Fortunately, those in their division. So that helps. One more note on the Rams offense before we keep it moving.
12:15So we talked about the importance of Ferguson. We talked about the run game after the offensive line looked dominant in this one as well.
12:22Um, we feel good about Matthew Stafford, like, you know, after the bounce back after last week.
12:27I mean, my general thesis on Matthew Stafford is as long as he's kept clean, he is still one of the best quarterbacks in football.
12:34If he faces a team and they've got the Broncos next week, who can actually pressure him, then I think it gets
12:40a little bit more interesting, which is honestly what it was last year as well.
12:45Yeah. And, and like the, the end of first half pick, it's one of the ones where it's like, you have to
12:51allow this to like two times a game, three times a game.
12:54Matthew's attempts to throw where you're like, dude, don't do that.
12:57It just is not, you don't got it. This is like an unbelievably efficient running game.
13:02We're good after the catch. Like, how about you just chill out?
13:05Uh, and so, yeah, it is a, how much can keep him upright over the course of the year?
13:11How much can keep him unpressured? How healthy is he going to be?
13:14I don't know. Week one is always weird. Week one in Australia, you know, down under feels just like unbelievably, you know, topsy turvy, something to throw away.
13:22Rams often or probably giants offense. Um, and we'll, we'll do the dart injury and what's next at the end of this.
13:29Let's talk just about this game and the offense and the Rams defense and Aaron Donald, um, who I haven't even, I
13:35have not said Aaron Donald's name since we started this podcast, which is bad podcasting for him.
13:40Uh, so yeah, Jamis looked just completely unready. It was the accidentally came important at my job meme come to life.
13:46Uh, Chris Shula very quickly realized that, uh, he had no answers for the blitz and cranked it up.
13:51Yeah. And Jamis went one for 10 for 15 yards and an interception when blitzed in this game.
13:56They had 13 snaps with five plus rushers and 10 pressures.
13:59Whoa. That's not good. Not good. Um, you know, going into this game, Ben, I, when, when it was going to be
14:06Jackson Dart, the thought was, my thought was okay.
14:08I'm sure they're going to lean into their two back sets again.
14:12They're going to try to do what San Francisco did.
14:15They're going to try to run the ball, but they had to go away from that quickly.
14:19Patrick card ended up only having 16 snaps in this game.
14:23Cause again, this offense is not really built to play from behind.
14:26I think that's kind of my, even it would be better with dart, no doubt.
14:30And they would have been more competitive, but I'm just saying.
14:33This is still a pretty limited receiving group. And I feel like neighbors still doesn't look quite like Malik neighbors yet.
14:39So it was out for a significant portion of that game too.
14:43Yeah. Right. He got hurt. He fought through it to come back in, but yeah, it's Andrew Thomas got hurt too in this game.
14:50Um, it just, you, I think in this, you really saw the limitation.
14:53Yeah. Again, major caveat, James, all of that, but you saw that this is a team that's definitely more equipped to run
15:00the football and also lean on the play action passing attack.
15:03Isaiah likely eight catches on eight targets in week one against the Cowboys team.
15:07That's light and that their linebackers are a mess.
15:09And it's like, man, this is awesome. This is the best.
15:12I can't believe we got this guy week two.
15:15He's got a pin Aaron Donald down on a short yardage play in the goal line.
15:19And it's like, Oh, wait, wait a minute. Right.
15:22And, and not a good idea though. Like that one, I'm watching it.
15:26Like what are we? Yeah. It's like, should he be out there?
15:29Probably not. But the issue is that when you become a, when Patrick or Card and Theo Johnson are out here, we do X.
15:36And when Isaiah likely that here, we do Y team.
15:39Then you start running into tendency problems. Right. And so it's just a reminder, like in the case of a player, like
15:45Isaiah likely to me, is it exciting player and interesting player, but he is an incomplete player.
15:50Right. He is not a player who is in totality.
15:53Right. Patrick or Card is a great needle moving guy.
15:56Right. You know, puts, puts defense in a bind for you to put heavy personnel on the field, but this is an incomplete player.
16:02Right. This is not a player who's got kind of the sort of, the sort of three down impact that makes it a complete, a holistic team.
16:10The way like on the other side of the ball, Terrence Ferguson blocks and catches, and that allows the Rams to do so with Terrence Ferguson.
16:18You don't get to do otherwise. And so right.
16:20Running back rotation. I think like they, you know, we want it to be all cam scadaboo all the time.
16:26You're seeing Najee Harris. You're seeing Devin Singletary. I don't think they know who they want to be out there.
16:32We're just yet. They're still figuring out how the running back touches work, which also is conflated by no Jackson dart.
16:37Like it is a very much an offensive work in progress with multiple different offensive minds, Matt Nagy, Brian Callahan, Greg Roman,
16:44John Harbaugh, and then like a deep room of not perfect skill position players.
16:48The Giants are going to be very herky jerky on offense.
16:51They try to figure out what their actual identity is when they actually have a healthy quarterback, let alone in a context like this.
16:58Herky jerk is a good way to describe it.
17:00Cause I think when you saw the high highs last week, you saw that like all of these players that you mentioned
17:07are not without talent and some of them have, I think pretty cool upside, but it's going to, like you said, really
17:13very, I think based less more so like a week to week randomness and more on opponent and Dallas, it turned out.
17:19This is a great thing that week too. You learn a little bit about week one and what means what?
17:25And again, I know would've been different with dart.
17:27Although I will say he was under a lot of pressure on that first drive as well.
17:32Uh, including of course the one where he got hurt.
17:35Um, all right, Aaron Donald let's talk about it.
17:38Uh, so he played a lot. I, that was dude, dude.
17:41He played 35 snaps, 32 snaps. Excuse me. And only, only four in the fourth quarter.
17:45Cause they didn't even need to, you could have played 40 in a competitive game.
17:50It's first game after two and a half years.
17:52I was stunned. Um, this was one where on first watch through three quarters, I was like, ah, he looks spry, but
17:58he's not really, you know, he's not filling up the stat sheet outside of the one busted play you talked about where
18:05he, where he gets likely and blows up the run, the short yardage run.
18:09Um, I thought like I was watching and I was thinking, okay, he's winning quickly.
18:13I, he looked quick to me, but, um, you know, just not the level of dominance we're accustomed to, but I think
18:19the fact that he looked so quick, he was winning on the line scrimmage really quickly.
18:24Probably speaks to a level of readiness that should be scary because it's only going to get better and better from here.
18:300.75 second get off, which is a, how quickly you cross the line of scrimmage from the defensive line spot by next gen stats.
18:37It's the third fastest game for a defensive tackle so far this season.
18:40Right. So we're anything under 0.8 is like super, super fast defensive lineman.
18:44Yeah. Now that is what you can train in two and a half years away from the NFL, right?
18:50You can do your squats and you can do your plyometrics and you can do your jumps and you can keep the
18:56twitch and you can keep the explosiveness. What you can't really train is going up against a guard and that guy's trying to stop.
19:03You can get into a quarterback. And yeah, Donald was not.
19:06If you dropped this Donald game in the middle of a regular Donald season, I'd be like, what's wrong with Aaron?
19:12And he can't get off of blocks. He's not actually affecting the quarterback.
19:16He only had one pressure and it was in the fourth quarter, right?
19:19When they were like full all out, you know, pressure and going after it.
19:23And then it was a 22 point game at that point.
19:26So if you drop this game in a regular Donald context, I would say, oh no, in the context of he hasn't
19:33played for two and a half years. I just think there's, there's rust to grind off in terms of actual like hand
19:39fighting and separation and being slippery and finishing at the quarterback.
19:42If we're still looking like this in six weeks, I'll start to wonder.
19:46I'm not gonna, you know, the, the physical toolkit is very much still there.
19:50I just think it's better getting back into the flow of things.
19:53And I think we'll see that over time. When did Henry Thomas go out in this game or the very end?
19:59That's what I thought. Yeah. Fourth quarter. Um, yeah, I think, you know, the, the Rams put up really good pass rush win numbers in this game.
20:07And, but, um, some of that had to do with Donald winning quickly.
20:10Some of that had to do with the number of blitzes that they were sending because they were so unafraid of James Winston at a certain point.
20:18Um, and it just felt like the giants were not prepared for that.
20:22I mean, I, you know, it's again, giant, you as your starting quarterback in the first course, you're not prepared for this
20:28defense that looked like a very soft split safety, heavy zone defense in week one to just go.
20:33Yeah. Right. But again, I'm not like watching that and thinking like, wow, the Rams are going to play so much man coverage this year.
20:40They're going to blitz. This was a very unprepared, like an, you know, this was a unique situation with the quarterback.
20:46I do think also like next week you get, well, I don't want to like look ahead too much because obviously we'll
20:53cover that game in depth, but you're not playing man coverage like that against Denver, against the quarterback who's very good against it.
20:59Uh, in Roanoke. So yeah. We'll get to that matchup.
21:02Um, all right, let's talk about Jackson. I'm sorry.
21:05The only thing I would say is that that was interesting to me from like the increase in man coverage and the
21:11DB usage is that they've been able to play so much dime, but they also got McDuffie in the slot more than they got him in week one.
21:19They never had him in the slot. And then week two, I'm trying to find the official numbers.
21:24I checked in the second half. He'd already had like six snaps in the slot, but they actually were able to experiment
21:30with McDuffie in the nickel in this game, which I think is very, very, very, very, very important to this team that
21:36they have a McDuffie outside mode and they have a McDuffie nickel mode because you saw what the Niners did to quit
21:43in Lake in round one and game one and week one, excuse me.
21:46In week one. Yeah. If you, if you build those two modes, then you can on the sideline at the end of
21:53the first couple of drives, like, all right, they're going after the slot.
21:56We're entering McDuffie slot mode and you can feel comfortable with Emmanuel Forbes and Josh Wallace and players like that on the field.
22:03And so it is important. I think that we continue to see what that looks like.
22:08Well, that's definitely going to matter next week because I expect to see a decent amount of Jalen Waddle in the slot.
22:14And if you want McDuffie on Waddle, I think as much as possible again, sorry, that game is just like the best game by far next week.
22:21So I can't wait to talk about it. No Jack's Pat.
22:25That's on my, uh, you know, I have some games I covered more depth.
22:29Of course, from doing the show. Yeah. That that's on my both sides.
22:32Both. We're going to talk about both sides of the issue.
22:35Yeah. Uh, okay. Jackson dart. Let's get to it.
22:38So still no news at the moment. It is a nine 55 AM Pacific, perhaps most likely by the time you hear this, it'll be out.
22:45Uh, MCL. So first that's good news, right? Because the moment that looks, Ooh, buddy, he got folded and, and he, it
22:52was, um, his non plant, his left leg got hit as he was getting hit from the right side.
22:57I think it was Josiah Stewart and Byron Young who sandwiched him or, but it looks really vicious and he was immediately in pain.
23:04And then, um, I was texting with Laura during the game.
23:07You know, there, there, this is, she reported this.
23:10He was trying to get back in. The, uh, staff was saying, um, he's not dead.
23:14It, it, it, it, not, it'll be okay, but it's maybe there was some encouraging signs during the game.
23:20There was a clip that went immediately viral of somebody saying four to six weeks.
23:24Yeah. They just hit the hardball. Yeah. Yeah. These, these clips that people find of like the lip reading of the injury stuff.
23:30Honestly, that's more useful information than like some Twitter doctor.
23:33And also press conferences where they're like, we have no idea and we'll know more in two days.
23:38It's like, well, we have video of him going into imaging rooms.
23:42You have some idea. So it's a sprain MCL and just looking it up that four to six week does make sense
23:48because it's usually like a three to eight week kind of timeline.
23:51So four to six is, is pretty good. Um, so he will be back at some point.
23:56Now here's the schedule. Week three Titans, Cardinals, commanders, saints are the next four.
24:00Then Ducks and Eagles. So those are all winnable games, although respect the saints stuck about them later this week.
24:06My saints. Um, I, I guess my sum total is you're probably going to get a better version of James Winston than what you saw last night.
24:14Yep. I genuinely believe that. Um, I think the onus here and then the other thing that's notable is those are not dominant run games.
24:21In fact, yeah. It's a pretty bad one. I'd say over six on run games.
24:25Yeah. All of them actually. Yes. So to our discussion earlier about the giants defense and how the Rams run game basically slowed up the pass rush.
24:33I do think there's potential over those six weeks for the defense to put up a performance closer to week one than what we saw last night.
24:40Yeah. They're three point favorites against the Titans in week three.
24:44And that's like with, you know, like certainty that darts not going to play at least that week right now.
24:49I think the Titans have been better. Like, you know, I think week two, they improved a lot.
24:54And I think that there's a chance that, you know, Brian Dable revenge game and whatever, like that one gets like interesting and fun.
25:01But the belief in the giants offensive line running game.
25:04And then, yeah. Front running pass rush nucleus is, is enough such that I think, yeah, the giants can survive this stretch.
25:10The, the, the biggest concern I have is that dart impacts the quarterback run game and accordingly the larger run game a lot.
25:17And I don't think you can do that at all with Jameis.
25:20So now you really have to be able to like when you're one-on-ones and when you get single high, you have to create explosives.
25:27You saw him connect like on a huge sort of Darnell Mooney, like Jameis where that thing out there, but you really
25:33need Malik neighbors to be the target on a lot of those.
25:37And just, is he back from injury? Is he always going to be, you know, banged up?
25:42He's had these shoulder injuries since college. He's obviously still coming off the leg injury.
25:46There's been a lot of talk about, he felt like he needed to get hit again and he wasn't certain he was ready to go for week one.
25:54And so if you are dealing with Malik neighbors in and out of the lineup, I'm just going to absolutely load the box on you.
26:01And I'm going to dare Jameis to make accurate throws to Darnell Mooney and Malachi fields without throwing picks.
26:06And that bet has just won against Jameis for much of his career, even when he's been playing well.
26:12So I can see a few wins because of the running game and because of the defense.
26:17I would really like to see the running game without dart, have a nice healthy game.
26:21I'm just, I guess dart really does impact the numbers a lot.
26:25Oh, definitely. I mean, week one, the Cowboys defense really struggled with the possibility of him running and, and they have like
26:31four yards before contact per carry, which is usually a side, if not of a dominant offensive line of a defense that's on its heels a bit.
26:39I just want to say I was smiling here because Will Levis just signed with the Jets practice squad.
26:44Big ups for Will Levis. Big time. Big time.
26:47Cross the transom. All right. Transmission. All right. We're going to take a quick break, come back and do winners and woofs.
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28:05I'll go first. My winner. Bengals defense. Whew. So there's two things I want to talk about.
28:10But let's start with the run game. Yeah. The Houston offense.
28:13Yeah. The running backs had 14 carries for 18 yards.
28:16So a little less than the Rams on Monday night.
28:19Just a little. 1.3 yards. One was successful. One successful run.
28:22Dog. Six runs. Woody Marks was stuffed on 50% of his runs in this game.
28:26The Bengals play, have through two weeks, have played with a 66% light box rate, which leads the NFL.
28:31Dexter Lawrence. I would argue in run defense that this game from Dexter Lawrence was about as dominant a game I've seen
28:38from a defensive player in run defense in recent memory.
28:40It's, it's, I, I, you're just like, I wrote about it in the column.
28:44I, I, I, it is. They spent the 10th overall pick on the theory that they'd get a run defender so good
28:51that they could do anything else they wanted the other 10 positions and it would work.
28:55And it's like, all right, that's kind of a crazy bet, fellas.
28:59And in week two, it's just immediately. Nope. A hundred percent.
29:02You guys nailed it. The Evan Brown will go to sleep shaking thinking about the number 97 for weeks, dude.
29:08The Texan center who like was a guard with the Cardinals and the Texans are trying to move him to center.
29:13And like, it's a little bit of a, a shaky situation to start with.
29:17Dexter did not move an inch in this game that he did not want to move.
29:22He had no point in this game was moved against his will.
29:25I, I, I, I thought he's a fuck. A fire hydrant out there.
29:29He is an immovable object tethered to the earth.
29:32It was so sick. We should note that the Texans run rushing attack is probably just really bad again as well.
29:38That's a part of this. It does. It is, which is again, not taking away credit through, uh, two weeks now.
29:44I mean, so, cause I was looking at the Bengals schedule and I was like, are they going to go up against like a really good run game?
29:52That's going to test this hypothesis. Um, you get the, you get the, uh, Ravens obviously twice.
29:56And then you've got the chiefs, which will be interesting, but not a lot of good run games in the NFL right now.
30:03Period. Kind of quietly. I was like, so. I'm just going to like really good at getting to the boundary would interest me against the Bengals.
30:10Cause I would want to be like miles Murphy, Cassius Howell, get Barrett Carter moving, but you have to, you have to
30:17not wave the white flag entirely guard center guard.
30:19But just, if you are trying, the Texans are really trying to be a downhill power running game.
30:24And right now the teeth of the Bengals is like to Daryl Slayton, who also had a great game, by the way, in rotation, defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence.
30:32And like that interior Barrett Carter, the second year linebackers played so fast by Dexter Lawrence uphill.
30:37Yeah. Like it is. You gotta get outside. Also, I feel like lost in like all the Dexter Lawrence deserved love.
30:43Jonathan Allen looks like a fricking beast out there.
30:46Leading the league in defensive tackle pressures right now.
30:48He is so disruptive as part of that pass rush.
30:51So yeah, the defensive tackles in general looks like a home run off season in terms of the additions they made.
30:57The other thing I want to talk about with the Bengals defense in this game is I just thought they were so
31:03well coached and I loved the pressures in particular.
31:06I did a tape on this on NFL live, but the use of simulated pressures I thought was so clever and also so effective against this Texans team.
31:14I'm missing Nico Collins, which is something they did last week.
31:17I mentioned it, I think on last week's show that I thought some of the sim pressures were really smart.
31:23But in this game, there were so many. I mean, I have quite a few charted here.
31:28And what they would do is they would walk up six, seven.
31:31At one point, they went engage eight with Lawrence and Allen as the droppers, which was just.
31:36And Lawrence almost had a PVU. I don't think he actually got it.
31:40He was full Statue of Liberty. He was inches from it.
31:43Make that NFL logo, guys. But what was so clever about it, there's a couple of things.
31:48Obviously, when you have simulated pressures where you show blitz, you drop, you're creating one-on-ones for your edges.
31:53And you saw them who are, you know, ma fame or you saw them winning consistently.
31:57Jonathan Allen got a few one-on-ones and won as a result because you have too many blockers for too few rushers because you're showing blitz and yada.
32:05You understand math. But the other thing I think that was very clever about this is what does CJ Stroud do really well?
32:11What does he do? He blitzed the blitz excellently, right?
32:14Where does he like to throw? Oh, intermediate in-breakers.
32:17Yeah. In-breakers. They were dropping, consistently dropping the safeties and backers into the throwing windows on those in-breakers, forcing him to throw
32:23outside where they, the Bengals, with their very good corners against these very bad Texans receivers, had a clear advantage.
32:29Advantage. So basically, they're creating advantages not only for their pass rushers, but also for the coverage because the area where they're
32:35weaker is the spine of the defense. But CJ didn't have opportunities in those occasions to throw there.
32:40So I just thought Al Golden, Sean Desai, that staff, great job game planning for this particular quarterback and taking advantage of their matchup advantages.
32:47Everything they've done in the secondary since Al Golden has gotten there, I've liked.
32:51Right? They have the DJ Turner's shadow and they'll have him follow around wide receiver ones and allows them to get brackets elsewhere.
32:58They've been able to, I think, use Jordan Battle really effectively.
33:01Jordan Battle is a player who like... He's usually a dropper, by the way, on these impressors.
33:06He's the one... I like what Battle's good at quite a bit from a tackling perspective, from a physicality perspective in the box.
33:12This is a limited player who you want to hide at times and they do a really nice job, I think, hiding
33:19him and kind of minimizing his scope and coverage.
33:21Brian Cook's been a big part of that as well here in year two.
33:25And so from a secondary perspective, everything they've done there from a coaching style I've always liked.
33:30Last year, the running game was like, oh my God, what are we up to?
33:34And now they just have bodies. They can be a lot more simple up front and continue to pour those resources in the defensive back end.
33:42And yeah, if Jared Wayne punks you downfield on a sideline ball than he does, you just wash your hands and go next.
33:48And okay, he did that one time, but it's Jared Wayne.
33:51It's almost Jared Wayne in his game, by the way.
33:54Texans, man. The Texans, once a game, hit an unbelievable explosive to Jalen Dole, who was just running away from...
34:00Jalen Dole's leaving DJ Turner, who runs a 4-2 in the dust.
34:03Every week they hit it, and they're like, let's never do this again.
34:07And it drives me nuts! Yeah, there's a lot of things.
34:10I don't know why they use so much 11 personnel in this game as well.
34:14I thought we would see more of the tight ends.
34:17I don't know. Very frustrating from Houston, the 0-2 Texans.
34:20All right, your winner for the week. We're going back to the Broncos.
34:24Well, Broncos, a huge, huge, huge win. And firstly, at home, beating the Jacksonville Jaguars and going 1-1, not falling into that
34:30same 0-2 hole that the Texans are in now.
34:33But then also, I thought, you know, from an improvement on some of the stuff that we talked about from week one
34:39to week two perspective, just check the boxes across the board.
34:42We'll start defensively. Trevor Lawrence was on one in this game.
34:45Lawrence was a flamethrower. Lawrence was hitting throws against man, against zone.
34:49It was accurate. He was reading things out. Lawrence was outside of his mind.
34:53And the Broncos, I think, very nicely said, OK, we need to break the pocket, right?
34:57We're going to lose to some explosives here. Our secondary is not having the kind of blanket effect that we wanted to have.
35:04So we're going to start sending more blitzes, presenting more early down pressures.
35:07We're going to really test, you know, the young guard and Emmanuel pregnant.
35:11We're going to test this reshuffle Jaguars off its line.
35:14And they got benefit from that. Four pressures apiece for Zach Allen and Nick Benito alike.
35:19Three quick pressures for Zach Allen. Zach Allen in this game took Ezra Cleveland and Emmanuel pregnant.
35:23Oh my God, he was unbelievable in this game.
35:26The Broncos do a great job. They do a great job widening out the offensive line, forcing wider splits and getting, you know, the pocket, the fan out.
35:34So Allen can get two way goes. And then he's just ripping guys off, off, off the turf.
35:39And he's able to finish through and keep his balance.
35:42So Allen, big, big, big splashy there. So defensively, I thought that, you know, they got extremely embarrassed from a missed tackle perspective in week one.
35:49In week two, Trevor Lawrence is lighting up this very, like, you know, vaunted secondary.
35:54There was a chance that things spiraled. And Benito and Zach Allen basically said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
36:00Like, we are going to break this game at the pocket.
36:03And they did so. That second half was lights out.
36:06Offensively, Bo Nix in week one took so much pressure and very quickly in week two, right?
36:1045%, very clearly in week two just said, we're going to, you know, I'm going to get the ball out a lot faster.
36:17Sometimes the offense is detriment, but generally distributed the football a lot cleaner, a lot quicker, but the office line played a lot better in pass protection there.
36:25And then Davis Webb, a little bit less. Look at this cool thing I thought of in the summer.
36:30Look at these three players moving around in the backfield, a little bit more bread and butter, a little bit more bread
36:37and honey, get to our base plays. And they were a lot more successful base plays.
36:41But I thought he put some interesting twists on some of the stuff that they did in the second half.
36:47So in the sec, obviously the offense looked bad in the first half and the second half, you really saw the turnaround.
36:53First of all, they cut down on the screens mercifully.
36:56Good God. But one out of every three Bo Nix dropbacks in the second half was a designed rollout, which they weren't working in the first half.
37:04The Jags were all over it, but he got some really creative stuff out there.
37:08The two best plays were Nate Adkins, both of them.
37:11Yeah, the release. Yeah. The one where there's the big, the explosive.
37:14He is the third option on a three-man concept to the left side.
37:18When Nix rolls out, the Jags are thinking, ain't no way.
37:21It's 22 personnel. They got their base defense out there.
37:24And then Adkins goes above Sutton on that. I think that really took them by surprise.
37:28And then the touchdown was a really cool play where they've got him lined up next to shoot one of the other tight ends.
37:35I forget. And then 82. And then, and Bryant releases in between them and motions in and releases in between them.
37:41Adkins wide open in the flat there. So I thought he understood Davis Webb, and this is promising, right?
37:47Quarterbacks, the best throwing on the move. We get that.
37:49The Jags are all over some of our designed rollouts.
37:52So we want the design rollout game to be a big part of this offense, but let's put some twists on it
37:59in terms of who's getting the football in a way I thought was really clever.
38:03The other thing Bo Nix did in this game, and I saw you post one of these plays, so I want to talk about it.
38:10Yeah, the Waddle in breaker with anticipation. Between the numbers, Bo Nix went 12 for 13 for 160 yards, 66 yards, pardon me, in this game.
38:17It's not a lot, like in terms of volume.
38:20Like he was still throwing primarily outside the numbers.
38:22But you saw, you know, what you didn't see week one, which is this has to be a credible part of this passing attack.
38:29Otherwise, defenses are just going to take away those outbreakers.
38:32And the one you posted was the one we talked about this on live yesterday.
38:36The dig to waddle on third down anticipatory throw ball is out between the hashes before waddle breaks.
38:42That is the type of throw that Jalen waddle was brought in to coax out Bo Nix.
38:46He also hit him on like a post, a crosser.
38:49So I just think like, you know, that's so important.
38:52Bo Nix is never going to be Jared guff.
38:55He's never going to have a high percentage of his throws between the numbers.
38:59But you need to threaten there. And this week they did against Jacksonville, largely thanks to Jalen waddle.
39:04Good to have said it better. It is the it is the presence of this in the offense, not as our primary, but as the side dish.
39:11You have to respect this. We're going to do it because the Jags are lined up in, you know, full pressure look
39:18on third down and then they're dropping a backup linebacker off the line of scrimmage into that zone.
39:23And the only way a defense gets to treat you like that is if you're if they don't fear your quarterback throwing that linebacker wrong.
39:30That is a white linebacker wearing 50 throw the ball at him, right?
39:34You have to have to have to do this.
39:36And if you do it enough and like it's a fastball, it's on time.
39:40It's not accurate. Pulls Jalen waddle into the ground, right?
39:43When Bo goes to put velocity on the ball, like he tends to get some sprays.
39:48If you do this enough where you actually get some yards up for the catch after this.
39:52Now we're actually attacking enough geometry of the field, right?
39:55My number like, you know, Broncos fans are convinced I hate Bo Nix.
39:59I've never hated Bo Nix. I've always been perfectly milquetoast on Bo Nix.
40:03The thing that drives me crazy about Bo Nix is that he has enough arm to rip and trigger intermediate throws and he never ever does it.
40:10He is too cautious. He's too quick to throw the check down.
40:14And then he'll sell these beautiful downfield balls. And it's like, yeah, but you need to use velocity in the middle of the field.
40:21If you can do this with Jalen waddle, you become a super bowl caliber passing attack.
40:25Immediately. One of the waddles balls was like a deep post versus quarters, I think.
40:29And yeah, like he's got, he's on the run throwing it.
40:33It's beautiful. He's got arm strength. It's, it's just like that.
40:36Part of the field has not been available to this offense.
40:39So that's an important development for this Broncos offense.
40:41Very big win. Very felt. By the way, I just realized Rams Broncos this week.
40:46That was my super bowl pick Rams Broncos. You on that too?
40:49Or I was Rams Ravens, which I would like, I was Rams.
40:53And then like put your hand into a hat and pick out one of seven AFC teams.
40:57Like I was Broncos Texans. I was there on all of them.
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41:35Woofs. I'll go first here. I don't even know where to start with the LA chargers.
41:40I mean, there's nowhere that's wrong. Yeah. Run defense.
41:42So, okay. God here, here is the LA chargers in a nutshell, seven false starts.
41:47It's the most in the NFL through two weeks.
41:49Uh, I watched just to torture myself. All the Quentin Johnson targets in this game.
41:53He went one for five or seven yards. Heck yeah.
41:56First target tip pass. Second, perfect hole shot. He doesn't catch.
41:59Third, he trips. Four. It's a four yard screen in a legal formation.
42:03Five. Herbert misses him. Yep. That to me encapsulates the state of the charges passing attack at the moment.
42:09Everything is not working except for Ladbukonki at the moment.
42:11It's just brutal to watch. And I think very important in what you said there is that Joe Alt and Rashawn Slater aren't working.
42:18This to me is like the biggest canary in the coal mine where both all in Slater look to me like guys
42:25who are still coming back from injury and are not a hundred percent.
42:28The numbers think all it's having like kind of an okay season.
42:32He's like fine and pass block win rate. The numbers on Slater.
42:35He's like one of the 10 worst office alignment in football through two weeks.
42:39Right now. Some of this is. It's real. Yeah.
42:42And some of this is, is scheme and structure and like what's McTain asking you to do and like learning assignments.
42:48And there's been busted protections or whatever. Some of it is, hey, we all, you know, very quickly in our like, you
42:54know, paragraphs of thoughts about how the charges were looking at the interior offensive line.
42:58We very quickly said, well, like obviously they have elite tackles.
43:01So you do that. And then like you can do all these, you know, clever things, guard center, guard protection wise.
43:07You can put all your resources there. Yeah. What if you just don't have elite tackles?
43:12What if you have like, I would even just say like fine.
43:15Like they both are like a, like a little bit worse, but if they're average tackles with this interior in this scheme,
43:21with this quarterback who likes to take too many hits.
43:24It is, it is. Every pocket is an unmitigated disaster.
43:27The shape of it is not good. Herbert is not comfortable in it.
43:31And then like, you know, they're trying to hit timing routes where Herbert's just supposed to throw these things blind.
43:37He doesn't want to throw them blind. It doesn't work.
43:39Yeah. Right. So like I, one of my biggest regrets here is I think not questioning and Orlovsky made some good points
43:46in the offseason because we're all like charges offense.
43:48Let's go. Mike McDaniel, run game, Justin Herbert. Herbert and Orlovsky.
43:51I remember on NFL live or someone was like, I don't know about the marriage between this quarterback and this play caller.
43:58And I was like, yeah, that'll be fine. It's not fine.
44:01Now it's obviously not just Justin Herbert. The run game is just a symphony of execution flaws.
44:06Every play. Every play. Somebody different. F's up. The guys they brought in.
44:09The fullbacks been awful. Horrendous. Alec. Ingold is, I mean, like, I love Alec.
44:13I put him on all pro list. Horrible. Bruh.
44:16And then they just lost the two. Kohler and Njoku.
44:19I mean, it's been crazy. Yeah. Like they lost both them to injury.
44:22I guess Gadsden is, I mean, he's not a blocker.
44:25Yeah. Slaughter is not moving people at center whatsoever.
44:28The Cole Strange signing. I didn't understand. I didn't even think he was good with the Dolphins.
44:33And then he is just a complete liability in pass protection.
44:36And you're not even getting value with him moving it in the running game.
44:40And then Awashika is, Awashika might be the best run blocker they have.
44:43Guard center guard. And this is the guy that wasn't even starting in week one.
44:48Because they rotate with Pipkins. And he went out there for week two.
44:51And now he's banged up. So. This sentence is the most cursed sentence I've read all week.
44:56Trey Pipkins, who rotated left guard with Awashika in week one, would be in line to start.
45:01But he missed Sunday's game with a knee injury.
45:04Harbaugh said that Trevor Penning will start at left guard if Pipkins isn't healthy to go.
45:08Just, again, some of this is out of their control.
45:11Like, of course, Biotish getting hurt. All these guys.
45:14But this was not a, you know, a team that I think sufficiently invested in the guard position this offseason, despite having a bazillion dollars in cap space.
45:22And, oh, we haven't even gotten to the defense, which, you know, that was something I did say all summer.
45:27I think this defense is going to take a step back.
45:30I didn't think that they were going to get torched by Kirk Cousins and Jacoby Brissett.
45:35And I want to give Kirk and the Raiders offense, which did a lot of cool stuff, some credit.
45:40Because I did think Clint Kubiak had a great game plan and has really found ways to get the most out of their skill players.
45:48Trey Tucker got him some opportunities downfield. But here's the thing about Kirk Cousins.
45:52And we know this about him from watching the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
45:55If you play zone coverage against him and you leave those windows open, he will throw into them.
46:00The Chargers' zone windows, which used to go brrr, are just open for business right now.
46:05This is the big thing. It's just like... If you can read it...
46:08Right. It's so nice and easy to say from the outside.
46:11So here's what you do with a defense. You take the two-high dial and you turn it up.
46:17And you take the zone-match dial and you crank it.
46:19You take the simulated-pressure dial and you turn it to a 10.
46:23Like, you press all these big, big, big buttons.
46:25But the reality is that while offense can be like, match the button, match the flashing button, match the, you know, under center button, whatever.
46:33Defense is a lot more tools to solve problems.
46:35So it's like, okay, simulated pressures, zone cover, split field.
46:38Yeah, if I give my two-year-old a hammer and a screwdriver, like she doesn't know what to do with them.
46:44She's just going to cause problems, right? Like, it's not going to be beneficial.
46:48You give her the right tools for the job, she ain't going to build the IKEA dresser.
46:52And so Jesse Minter to Chris O'Leary. Jesse Minter's defense over the last two years was a high zone cover, high-to-high, high light box defense.
47:00Great. Those defenses usually give up a decently high success rate, but they limit explosives and they tighten down in the red zone.
47:06And with Minter, for the last two years, they've been a low success rate defense.
47:10They've somehow been a high zone, light box defender, but not giving up successful plays because they screwed down on everything.
47:16They were dialed in on tendencies. They were driving in on routes, man.
47:20They looked passive on like next-gen stats data sheets.
47:23They were actually aggressive and they were creating forcing tight windows and winning the football.
47:27This defense does all the big strokes the same with Chris O'Leary.
47:30Oh, too high. Derwin James, like light packages, like all that stuff.
47:34But they are not so nearly as dialed in on tendency.
47:37They are not so nearly as sharp. And so they're still stopping explosives, but they're giving up a super high success rate.
47:43And then on their tight windows- See, that's Todd to Trey Tucker who's still running downfield between the safeties.
47:49And then on their tight window throws, because they're actually forcing, they have the second highest tight window throw rate in all of the league.
47:56Only the Bills even forcing more tight window throws.
47:58They can't break up the pass because they're late and they're not big enough.
48:02Right? Cody White is dunking on you for touchdowns.
48:05What are we doing from a personnel perspective? So there you are.
48:08Yeah, did he get a better job of getting pressure in this one?
48:12Again, credit to Kirk Cousins, because I didn't think he was pretty good in this game.
48:16And I know I've been skeptical of him to start the season, but I thought he was really, really good in this game.
48:23And coupled with a really, really smart- Clint Kubiak just kind of got the goods as a play caller.
48:28Clint, I live in awe of Clint Kubiak, man.
48:31I can't believe how good he is. Yeah, I'm not selling my Mendoza starting soon stocks, but man, Raiders 2 and 0
48:37is not helping me out there in my Mendoza propaganda.
48:40At least he's on the sideline wearing a helmet, imitating dropbacks.
48:43My absolute hard study and go. I love that kid so much.
48:47Hezekiah Massis, by the way. Get a man out of cow.
48:50Okay. Great, great name for nicknames. All right. So I guess to put a bow on the Chargers, I think week one,
48:56my Chargers coat was that they were like one execution error away from breaking off a bunch of big runs.
49:02But with all of these injuries, it's kind of hard for me to find the cope right now.
49:07Yeah. And one week of execution errors is one week of execution errors.
49:11Two weeks is what we're working on the offseason, fellas.
49:13Like what- Coaching is just like, what the hell's going on?
49:17After this, they've got the Spills. Spills, Seahawks, Broncos, Chiefs, Rams, Texans, Ravens.
49:20Yeah. They're going to get beaten with a baseball bat, dude.
49:23I mean, they got no shot. Jeremiah Smith, LA Charger on the table.
49:27Is that the cope? I mean, it's good cope.
49:30I, you know, seeing the way this front office has moved, I'm guessing we're going to get like, you know, a fifth
49:36round pick sent for Marvin Harrison Jr. And then they're going to be like, whoa, we're fine.
49:41All right. Your wolf. This is one I've been wanting to talk about after watching the tape.
49:46Give it to me. I don't know what side of the ball you want to focus on.
49:50I could do either here. Yeah. All right. I'll wolf the Buccaneers, and I will start defensively, which is the tape I've most recently watched.
49:58There are a lot of individual players on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who I think are making good plays.
50:03I think Josiah Trotter, and I think that Antoine Winfield, and I think that Elijah Roberts, and Vita Vea, and, you know, Zion McCollum.
50:10I think these players are making good individual plays.
50:12When you have this many good players making good individual plays, and you are continuing to bleed yardage, we have a coaching problem.
50:19And this is a coaching problem that has been around in Tampa Bay, very evident for a while.
50:24Sorry to interrupt you, but like, I watched this late last night.
50:27So, half the time when they're playing zone coverage, I do, I cannot tell what they're playing, because half of the, it
50:34feels like half the defense is doing one thing, and half the defense is doing something else.
50:39The sale route to Fanon on the first drive.
50:41It's a two-man concept, and they don't know who's supposed to be where.
50:45So much bust. Yes. The linebackers. Okay, by the way, my biggest L, Alex Anzalone.
50:49Yeah, so that's what I was going to get to.
50:52Oh my God. Yeah. Anzalone can't tackle right now.
50:55Cannot get a player down onto the turf. Um, he's fast enough to run with guys, but he doesn't actually stick with them in cover.
51:02And he's also guessing behind the line of scrimmage.
51:04I've got no idea what's going on with Anzalone.
51:07Trotter, at the very least, like, so is disruption.
51:09We were asking a second round rookie linebacker who was already like a feast or famine player to like solve problems because
51:16the veteran he's playing next to can't get into the right gap and can't get players down.
51:20I mean, the, there was a, a TFL that would have ended a drive that Anzalone missed that ended up being the
51:27drive that got down the field into the Denzel Boston throw, which Anzalone is only opens to the three receiver side.
51:33And so, and I understand why he does it, but he's not playing with any cognizance to the quarterback.
51:38Sean's taking you where he's throwing the football. Look at the quarterback.
51:42And then eventually he finally gets back there when Boston catches the ball, can't drive Boston down and ends up slingshotting him down the field for the touchdown.
51:49Anzalone is a clear net negative for the Buckingham defense right now.
51:53It's a huge problem in the second level. Look, Watson played reasonably well in this game.
51:57He averaged 3.7 air yards per attempt. He completed three passes over 10 yards.
52:01The Browns racked up a 163 yards after the catch.
52:04Second only to Kansas city this week. Yep. That's bad defense.
52:07Now I love your Harry O'Fan and is near and dear to my heart.
52:11And he's always going to get you a lot of yards after the catch.
52:15But yeah, the plays that you've talked about, I'm just going back and watching them, the missed tackles, the missed coverages, really
52:22wild stuff from this box defense set. I was very high on coming into the season because of the player talent, but
52:28they just, the coaching right now is, is a real issue for this team.
52:32Now, you know, okay, 23 points. We should be able to win games still with our offense, with what we poured into it.
52:38When we, when the opponents were 23 points, even when they're the Browns.
52:42Baker's a mess right now. I mean, I was through two games.
52:46Baker as has a top five rate in terms of the amount of throws he throws behind the line of scrimmage and
52:52a top five, rate in terms of the amount of throws he throws 20 plus yards down the field, nine attempts over
52:5820 yards in this game for some reason. Yeah.
53:01And, and, and we are shooting downfield to Ted Hurst and a Tez Johnson.
53:05So we're not even like, it's not even like, Oh, prime and me kabuka targets.
53:09There were a couple of kabuka in there and he's disagreeing with Hurst and with Johnson.
53:13He's, he's throwing into space when they're not working into space.
53:17He's throwing them back into coverage when they're trying to work into space.
53:20There's no chemistry on the downfield after these receivers.
53:23So they're not even like, Oh, you know, a bad regression day throwing downfield targets.
53:27No, like these are, uncatchable balls. They're landing in different areas of the field and the receivers are to be when I,
53:33when I see a quarterback who is high behind line of scrimmage and high down the field, that tells me that quarterback is scared of coverage.
53:41He doesn't want to throw it zero to 20 because that's what the defenders are.
53:45So he doesn't trust his receivers. He doesn't trust his timing.
53:48Doesn't trust his feet. Doesn't trust his routes. And it's Zach Robinson, new OC.
53:52And there's a lot of these like motion at the snap releases, bunches and everything, but still you're a 31 year old quarterback.
53:59You're a veteran. It should be better than this.
54:01Then there's the pocket management stuff. Get at it.
54:04I, I got no patience for this because you get on a Netflix special and you talk about all the injuries you have in 2025.
54:11All right, get rid of the football. Young man.
54:14If you're going to be banged up, then you need to be willing to distribute the ball quickly.
54:19Third and seven, Chris Cobbins open on the slant, throw it.
54:22He climbs up and he gets sacked by the safety because he can't outrun the safety.
54:26He's 31 years old. And remember Baker's that Baker has the second highest scramble rate of all quarterbacks over the last three years.
54:33It's Jane Danielson him. His game is very predicated on escapability and athleticism.
54:37And he does not look as quick as he used to look.
54:40And he's still trying to play like the 24 year old, you know, man who was, you know, defeating the doubters and the detractors and whatever.
54:47It's silly stuff. You are a third contract, brother.
54:50Let's it's time to execute the offense, throw the football run game still looks very mixed at best.
54:55The screen game, burn them all with fire. Like on every screen, someone runs into someone else on this.
55:01And I'll tell you, Jared verse, you know, verse had himself a special day in terms of defending screens and play recognition versus a smart cookie, dude.
55:08I was impressed by Jared verse film on the seasons right now.
55:12The Tampa Bay bucks have eight screens averaging 2.6 yards per time.
55:15By the way, I'd look this up out of spite after watching them.
55:19Yeah. So I think if there's coat for the bucks, they're too talented to be this bad.
55:24Like I, you know, I think I said about Zaloni who might just be cooked.
55:28There's still good players on both sides of the ball right now.
55:31How it's a combination of bad quarterback play and bad coaching.
55:34I think it's, we both agree. Uh, that's, um, and like, this is, you know, the Panthers offense looks great, but we
55:41need to see them against a better opponent. The saints are winning game or one beat the Ravens, but they're, it's like weird second half versus first half.
55:49I like the saints. I like what I've seen from Bryce.
55:52I just think the entire NFC South right now is kind of in wait and see mode.
55:57So the bucks is, this is not over. You can still turn it around.
56:01Um, cause the chargers have, you know, the Broncos and the chiefs in their division.
56:05I'm sorry. Don't mean to disrespect the two and all.
56:08It makes me here. So I, uh, I have them.
56:11Who are they playing this week again? Cause I wanted to give them the Raiders.
56:15I don't think the Raiders have the saints. I did.
56:18I'm making that a spotlight game guys. Okay. Yeah.
56:20Go birds. Saints fans. We are talking about both of those teams because I think they've earned the right to be talked about.
56:27We're playing, we're playing another game of being a, that's the line.
56:30Saints are at home hosting the Raiders. What do you think the line is?
56:34Saints by three. That's like a pickup. That is exactly correct.
56:37Mina Kimes. We're, we're, we're, we're going to make a bill Simmons guess the line go out of you yet.
56:43Feeling good about my saints preseason division pick. Safe defense.
56:46I'm right there with you. I have them and I've, I have the Vikings in the NFC North.
56:51I feel like I'm sitting pretty right now. I posted the Vikings.
56:54Yeah, dude, I posted this about the Ravens cause all the rave, everybody was freaking out about like Derek Henry only getting one tart, York Curry.
57:02But when you go back and watch, they only had three possessions for the two minute drill.
57:07And one of the, like two of them, they get runs, get blown up and then they can't really run the ball.
57:13There's only the third one where they should. But my overwhelming takeaway watching those Ravens drives was not like, Oh my God, Declan Doyle, you idiot.
57:20It was goddamn. A lot of saints defenders are executing at a high level.
57:24Yeah. They were run blitzing. Right. And then taking advantage of the young center.
57:28The Ravens were also, the Ravens were also only up by eight the entire second half.
57:33Yeah. So it wasn't like they were like, right.
57:35How did the Ravens not feed Derek Henry? It was a one possession game.
57:39Like, it was a neutral game. The Saints defense might be good.
57:43Also, like, can we accept that? This is something we saw in the second half of last season.
57:48Go. Quincy Riley. So good. Caden Ellis really good at what he does.
57:52I like the same defense. I really do. Carl Granderson makes to blow up the screen.
57:56Like we just saw the Ravens pop one of those for like 20 yards last week.
58:01It was so heads up and so intelligent. They just are.
58:04They look well coached. Like you said, the adjustment with the blitzes in the interior, really smart.
58:09So Ravens had like negative eight special teams, EPA in that game.
58:12Like I know, I know it was a wonky game.
58:15Yeah. They're the hardest fan base to say this to, but it's like this one probably was just weird.
58:20This one was probably just random. Losing the same like stupid ways.
58:24So I think that's what's so frustrating. Yeah, I agree.
58:27Okay. Ravens Cowboys this coming week. So that will also get in Brazil.
58:30That'll be weird no matter what. All right. We'll be back later this week with Dominique to preview week to Ben.
58:36Where can folks check out your work? Benjamin Solak on Twitter and on Instagram and on TikTok.
58:41And my column came out on Tuesday and I will probably be able to announce things next week.
58:46Very excited. All right. Stay tuned. The next Monday game is, oh, it's the Bears Eagles.
58:51Tyson, magic, magic bag, man. I mean, listen, listen, better than Winston.
58:54We'll put up a fight. Also, their Eagles run defense against Chicago.
58:58Exactly. Remember the Eagles Bears game last year with the way the Bears ran the football?
59:02I don't know, man. Bears that the Eagles run offense right now sucks.
59:06Like it is. That's an interesting game without Caleb.
59:09I was, I just felt too tough to just buy the bagels defense, but I didn't want to put the Eagles receivers
59:15as my winners because I love them both very dearly.
59:18And they're very special, special to my heart. It's just really good.
59:21Now I've, I've, I've also asked me like, how do we get lemon more involved?
59:25I'm like, buddy, Don Tavion Wicks has a starting job and he's never giving it away.
59:30Should Howie, should Howie have drafted a law offensive lineman?
59:33Hmm. My goat wash. All right. That's it. We got to go.
59:36I got to go do NFL live, go check out Ben on all the socials.
59:40He'll be back next week. Hopefully with some news for you all.
59:44Thank you. As always to everyone at Omaha productions, Kirsten, Becky, Owen Saylor, Jack Foster.
59:48Fashion. We're out.