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1:01The only NFL podcast where one of the hosts can't decide whether he's rooting for Kyle Pitts or Matthew Golden to score
1:09more points in this Thursday night game. Two dog named receivers.
1:13You don't have to explain it. We got it.
1:16We got it. We're not dumb. Two Americas, too.
1:19Not exactly a banger. Although I will say the fact that Michael Pennix Jr.
1:24is playing at least makes it compelling and watchable.
1:27That voice, of course, is Dominique Foxworth, the host of the Dominique Foxworth podcast, here to help me preview week three.
1:34Dominique, are you ready? Oh, yeah. Some decent matchups.
1:37Very backloaded, this one. So, as always, we're going to discuss all of the games.
1:42Some of them we're going to discuss faster than others.
1:46And I always go through and I pick like the five or six games where I think we both should discuss both sides of the ball.
1:55And it really was a lot of games later in the week.
1:59I was excited by Eagles Bears when I looked at the schedule earlier this year.
2:04But now we've got Case Keenum. I chose some games because I felt like we haven't talked about the teams in depth,
2:11including the 2-0 Las Vegas Raiders against the feisty New Orleans Saints.
2:15So, we're going to get to that one. But we are going to go in order.
2:21And we're going to start. Oh, did you see a light flicker?
2:25I think I just saw a light flicker. Freaked me out.
2:29I guess when I said the 2-0 Raiders, my room was like, whoa?
2:33With Falcons backers, I'm just doing a key for this one.
2:37And I'm not going to get hipster here. Can Michael Penix Jr.
2:41show us something? That's all I care about in this game because the Falcons offense has been unwatchable.
2:47They have not reached the red zone. Or wait, was it once?
2:51I forgot. The stat. It's been Cooper Rush with a little bit of Jack Strand.
2:57But Penix Jr. is finally cleared to play. Tua is also cleared to play.
3:01He's backing him up. Goes up against a Green Bay Packers defense that I thought played decently last week.
3:08Lucas Van Ness was amazing. Dominique, normally with Penix Jr., I'm always starting from this premise.
3:13Let's see where he aligns. And also, can he throw over the middle of the field at all?
3:20But I actually think against this Packers defense, given the weakness of their cornerback group and the strength of the spine, his
3:27style of play actually probably works better here in terms of throwing to the perimeter.
3:32What a spot for Michael Penix Jr. Like, congratulations, man.
3:36This is, you get to come off of two games where the quarterback play and the offense in general, I think the
3:43stat is they haven't been to the red zone at all this season.
3:48Yeah, so you get to come off of that.
3:51And then I know that the Packers played a little bit better on defense last week against the Jets, but you get
3:58a prime time, like isolated, standalone Thursday night game against a pretty weak defense.
4:03Like, this is his opportunity to prove everybody that he can play.
4:07I don't know what to expect. I think you're right about attacking outsides, but I don't know.
4:13Like, this Packers team seems, like, really volatile, especially offensively.
4:16Yeah. And that, so I wouldn't be surprised. And the Falcons defense isn't the 85 Bears, of course.
4:23I wouldn't be surprised if it turned into a lot of scoring.
4:27I was going to say it turns into a shootout, but that's assuming that the team that's never been to the red
4:34zone is going to score a lot of points.
4:37So I wouldn't be surprised if the Packers put up numbers.
4:41Then what Penix does with all those weapons, I think, could be interesting.
4:46Yeah, on the flip side, you're right. The Falcons defense is not scaring many people.
4:51I really hope after last week watching the Packers tape, Jordan Love is so obviously impacted by the injuries on the offensive line.
4:59The game they called was a great example of how when you don't trust your offensive line at all, you have to
5:06kind of cut the playbook in half. I mean, he had like a 2.3 second time to throw.
5:12It is not the Love that we're used to.
5:15So my hope is that maybe they feel a little bit more comfortable against the Falcons pass rush.
5:22Now, Zach Bacobole, their right tackle, is out for the season.
5:25Anthony Belton is going to play tackle. It is a dire, scary hours in Green Bay on the offensive line.
5:32But like, you know, the Falcons do not have very good pass rush.
5:37And Reid is out too, so they don't have their full complement, right, at receiver.
5:42So I don't know. Yeah, this game, I don't really know what to expect.
5:47Like, I trust Jordan Love. And I don't know, that might be about where it stops.
5:52Bijan's really good. Yeah, everything else, like, I'm not really sure what to expect, honestly.
5:57Packers, it's down to four and a half. I would say they opened at like seven.
6:03Maybe that was before the Panics News. Right now, they're at four and a half at home.
6:09I'm going to take Green Bay here, even though this does feel like Thursday night weirdness.
6:14And like you said, like, Panics Jr., like, this is such an incredible opportunity for him.
6:20Like, you have a fan base clamoring for you to start, despite the fact that before the injury, you were kind of
6:27inconsistent at best because of what they've had to endure the last couple of weeks.
6:32Like, if you could just show them anything in the passing game, you've got real potential to grab this job and never let it go.
6:41And also, you know, rebuild your NFL career after some injuries.
6:45So I'm just hoping that he looks healthy and is slinging it, because I think that would be really fun and I would enjoy it a lot more.
6:54All right, next game is you, Bengals Steelers. The Steelers, we talked about how bad the Falcons offense was or has been.
7:02And like the Steelers, I think, is on par.
7:05It's just as bad in my view. You know, I don't I didn't get a look of agreement from you.
7:12You'd rather have the Steelers offense than the than the Falcons offense.
7:16At least the Falcons have some like explosive plays like the Steelers best player, presume or like their supposed best player.
7:23DK Metcalf can't see it has had a tough time catching right now.
7:27Yeah. Yeah, it's been really, really ugly. I don't know what the path is to getting better, especially based on what we've
7:35seen from the Bengals defense, who we talked about on the pod earlier in the week as a winner.
7:42This is not your same old Bengals defense. I'm not really sure.
7:46Like the run defense looks to be vastly improved.
7:49I think for the Steelers, the Texans did have some success attacking linebackers through the air.
7:54Wouldn't be surprised if you take a similar tactic.
7:57There's really no need for like. If Aaron Rodgers tries to do, you know, go balls on the perimeter against these corners,
8:05that's not really a sustainable, I feel like, approach.
8:08Yeah. And I mean, I think the D line for the Bengals has been one of the stories of the season and
8:15the offensive line, honestly, the Bengals is better than I anticipated.
8:19So I, I feel comfortable at least with, with Mims in protection and the way that the D line is dominating.
8:26Like I don't see much of an avenue for the Steelers in this game.
8:31I think the most important thing, the reason why I'm interested in this game is I want to see the Bengals offense
8:39be the Bengals offense, because the, the story that we had coming into the season was we know that that is going to be here.
8:47The question is, can their defense get to at least average?
8:51I think I'm pretty sure that their defense is average or above at this point.
8:56And I'm waiting to see this offense be more consistent.
9:00And, and yeah, then they become like the real contender that we always expect them to be, but we're still in a situation.
9:08I think I mentioned this last time we talked about the Bengals, how Joe Burrow still gets hit a lot.
9:14And yeah. Oh, he took a lot of hits in the text.
9:19I, there was some unnecessary ones too, quite frankly, when he tried to scramble against Houston, it was the kind of a weird game.
9:27Right. We spent so much, we like the Bengals defense was kind of the story in some ways of the Texans game more so than the offense.
9:36Um, because that is the question early on the season, but like they didn't, it wasn't a very efficient day for Cincinnati.
9:44He just hit a few explosive outside of structure.
9:47And this Steelers defense looks quite good. The first two weeks of the season, I thought they were really impressive against new England.
9:55So that side of the ball does have some interest for me.
9:59Um, yeah, I, I, it is kind of funny, right.
10:02To say that about like, you got strength on strength with the Bengals offense versus Steelers defense.
10:08But I think we both feel so much better about the Bengals defense through the first two weeks.
10:14Well, last year would have been a week, like, okay, evenly matched both sides.
10:19Now it feels like this Bengals defense is too much for Pittsburgh's offense based on what we've seen before we move on really quickly.
10:27Cause I haven't talked about them at all. Like the Steelers defense, new patch, new defensive coordinator, Patrick Graham, uh, you know,
10:35before the season, I was kind of enthusiastic about maybe seeing some changes in what they were doing instead of just playing
10:42cover three and man all the time. What have you seen early on from this unit?
10:48I assume we're both on the Bengals here, by the way.
10:51Yeah, I definitely on the Bengals here, but you're asking about the Steelers defense.
10:56Like this is what you expected from the Steelers defense last year.
11:00I guess I should say that I'm not surprised, but I am a little bit without Joey Porter too.
11:07Like they're holding up. Jamel Dean is there. Yeah.
11:10They're attacking Jamel Dean probably more often than on the other side, but he's doing fine.
11:15He's good enough. Like they're staying in these games without the support of an offense.
11:21That's going to hold onto the ball for a long time or put up big numbers.
11:26Whereas I've been super impressed with this defense. And of course, TJ Watt is impacted.
11:31Watt, Hayward, Highsmith. Like these play, these were the players that we thought would be awesome last year and they weren't consistently.
11:39And they are right now. And through, for two weeks, they've been impressive.
11:43And should they get the contract situation figured out?
11:46I think it's, I think they're saying that it's a back for Joey Porter, but like, I think it's also a little bit of need.
11:55Some of that money might make the backfield better for Joey Porter.
11:59If they get that figured out, then yeah, this defense is even better, but I don't know.
12:05This is the off season conversation. Probably just the confusing way.
12:09The Steelers are going about running their organization. It doesn't seem like it's, they have much of a plan.
12:15All right. Patriots Jaguars. We're both going to discuss this game.
12:19Yeah. So it's to reiterate, we're both Cincinnati there.
12:22This is a good one. It's the Pats coming off of a win.
12:26You're not feeling super great about against Pittsburgh. The Jags coming off of a loss to the Denver Broncos after they let up in the second half.
12:36I'll go first. I've got one side of the ball.
12:39I've got the new England offense against the Jaguars defense.
12:43And I wrote, can the Jags get interior pressure in this game?
12:47Because again, it's going back. I said, I was impressed by the Steelers defense.
12:51I was. Drake may just still look so uncomfortable to me.
12:55And in granted, he's gone up against maybe the best, definitely the best defense in the NFL in Seattle.
13:02We feel pretty good saying that now. A Steelers defense that we just discussed has a very good pass rush.
13:09And I thought had a good game plan for him, but he just doesn't look as confident as he did last year.
13:16Last season. And, and it really shows up against pressure.
13:20Um, and you go into this game. I think the center has really struggled.
13:24Jared Wilson, uh, who's playing the position, you know, he was the guard last year.
13:30Uh, Mike and when you went down with an injury.
13:33So Greg wrote in starting, who's like, he's so old at this point.
13:37I know he's been in the league forever. Um, and you know, I, there's definitely a vulnerability on that Patriots offensive line.
13:45Now on the flip side, kind of the other side of Denver's offense, figuring out in a second half was, I was
13:53really underwhelmed by the Jacks defensive line. Right. the four man rush had an 18% pressure rate, which is very low.
14:00Josh Hines Allen finished the game with zero pressures outside of Jervon Walker.
14:04No one else. The defensive tackles, Armstead, et cetera, had also zero pressures.
14:09So it was, I, and granted Nick stores the ball quickly.
14:12Denver's offensive line is very good, but they have to be better than that.
14:17Um, really against this Patriots team. So to me, it starts at the line of scrimmage.
14:23That was stunning for me. Like that was one of the games that I had to go back and watch.
14:30I didn't watch live. So I saw the score and assume that the Jacks defense played well, but they didn't really through the course of that game.
14:39The Broncos kind of moved the ball on them.
14:42And your point about pressure, there was no pressure.
14:45The Broncos didn't score on every drive that red zone turnovers and other mistakes.
14:50And finally got it done in the fourth quarter.
14:53But I was severely disappointed in that Jacks defense, but the other side of the ball, uh, yeah.
14:59Oh, can I say something about Drake may also pressure, the pressure is the problem to me.
15:05And the way that they solve the pressure is by keeping more guys in the block, which then you have fewer guys.
15:12Yeah. To make, I just feel like everyone in that Patriots offense, the offensive room is scared right now.
15:19The play caller is scared, the quarterback. And to your point, like one thing I was notable, I thought Drake looked so much better when he was blitzed.
15:29Yeah. He's got the answer. He's accurate. Ball's coming out fast.
15:32Right. It feels like right now, this team has no confidence in their past protection and it's permeated.
15:38And then there, there, there was still some issues with him against zone coverage.
15:43There's like a discomfort. Yeah. But I would say that those things are connected.
15:48It's like the, yeah, the way that you play effective zone coverage is with pressure.
15:53Like zones will break down if you have plenty of time, but there's not someone in their face.
15:59So like, I do think that it's the combination of them not being able to protect and you need multiple receivers to overload zones and to clear out.
16:09And they're keeping guys in, but like, yeah, you either need to have time to get multiple guys in the one zone
16:17to break down a zone or have time for the zone to break down.
16:21And he's either under pressure or anticipating pressure. So it doesn't look comfortable.
16:26So like, I think much has been made of how he struggled in zone, but I think it's less about him.
16:33Like not understanding his own pressure and the lack of receiving options.
16:37That's a really great call on that. But I will say one thing the Patriots did against new England though, that was
16:45encouraging to see is so the Steelers played a lot of split safety, like cover six style looks and they ran the ball really well.
16:53And because it's an invitation to run the touchdown, the Travian Henderson touchdown, the 39 yarder, that was a cover six look, hands it off.
17:02You get great blocks from Morgan Moses and the skill players.
17:06Debraio Douglas coming across and clearing out the safety pop.
17:09Love that. So if new England can continue to run the ball, when defenses present those looks, that'll also help Drake may
17:17not just in terms of buying time to your point, but also getting some more of the coverages.
17:23He's a little bit more comfortable with. Okay. Jags offense.
17:26Yeah. Jags offense. Yeah. Yeah. They, they're going to, I mean, the Patriots defense, honestly, like it's, it's a, it's a bit
17:34similar as far as like the type of coverages that they're going to see to the Broncos that they just went up against.
17:42And they had a fit with that. I think the, we were all getting, or I speak for myself.
17:48I was getting pretty hype about the run of games that Trevor Lawrence has had since the last time he was in
17:56Denver until now, but it hasn't been filled with a bunch of great defenses.
18:00And we saw him make some impressive, incredible throws throughout that stretch and put up impressive numbers, but it hasn't all been
18:08against this top level defense, especially the tight man coverage that's going to challenge Trevor Lawrence.
18:13And so I think that's kind of the question, do they have answers there?
18:18And it's Brian Thomas jr. is always the name that comes up to me when I think about them is that like
18:26that would change the complexion of all this. If he turned into the receiver, turned back into the receiver that we thought he was after his rookie year.
18:35I one point during the game, I, I stood up and screamed, catch the ball.
18:41Do you ever do that? Oh yeah, of course.
18:44That's the one thing I can't, it's like a Plovian response.
18:47I see. I'm just checking to see if they actually charted him with the drop.
18:53Cause he, he had one. They definitely, I don't know if they put it down, but I saw one.
18:59I saw it and I was not happy. Yeah, they did.
19:03Okay. Brian Thomas jr. Denver versus Jacksonville. Two drops.
19:06Yeah. Two drops. Okay. Yeah. That's what I thought.
19:09Yeah. Yeah. And then the turnovers that the interception that he had late in the game, it just, he seemed like he
19:17just short, short circuits at a certain point. So that's the huge question.
19:21I mean, I I've been impressed with the Patriots defense up until this point, but this will be a bigger challenge for,
19:29for them going forward to see if they can keep Drake may afloat until they figure out the offense.
19:35I think one it's advantageous for Jacksonville that they're not like a one receiver dominant team when you're going up against Christian
19:43Gonzalez, who has even the best corner of all.
19:46It seems like you're right. Unbelievable. Uh, worth every damn penny.
19:49Um, because like, it's like, all right, take out BTJ.
19:53Fine. I mean, you know, like there's a comfort level, like this Jags offense is not, it's about passing, passing the ball around.
20:01There's not a, a primary target here. So I'm going to take Jacksonville.
20:05Uh, I do think in the Denver team game, I still think they played well.
20:10I think there was just execution errors. And I think the Broncos offensive line, the Bronco, the Bo Nix, I thought played
20:18really well in the second half, but I think that it wasn't like a collapse.
20:23I wasn't like, Oh, they stink. There was just some misses here and there.
20:28It's close game. And whereas with new England, I just want to see Drake may look like Drake may.
20:34And I, and I think he will, and maybe he will in this game, but I'm going off of what we've seen so far this season.
20:43Yeah. I think that's the right call. I'm, I'm with you on that one.
20:48I feel more confident. Um, and the Jags return into what they were, then the pets anytime soon.
20:54Who's next Titans giants. Is this the biggest stinker of the week?
20:58Did I give it to myself? Oh yeah. Injury with the dart injury.
21:03Um, what I'm going to cause a key here is kind of a continuation of what we, wow.
21:09The giants are favored against the Titans. It's at home, but still, uh, that's my, yeah.
21:14Um, I guess I, I mean, like I, I, I agree with the premise that James Winston is going to be better
21:22than what we saw on Monday night, but still, um, so along those lines for the Titans defense, I would blitz James
21:30Winston and like the Rams did, unless he proves that he, they can beat it.
21:35Um, but I also, the thing I wanted to highlight for the Titans, cause I went back, I was a little bit late to watching Titans Eagles.
21:44I thought Tony Pollard looks, the whole offense looked better.
21:47I thought Cam Ward actually played, he played fine.
21:50It certainly compared to week one. I think you saw some improvement there, but I thought Pollard in particular jumped out to
21:58me as having a nice day at the office.
22:01And he looked explosive on those under center runs in particular against Philadelphia.
22:06Um, some really nice cutbacks for big gains against that Philly front, very light box centric defense.
22:11So this is it with New York, right? Like if you can run the ball on them at like the Rams, we
22:19just talked about, they really can't affect you rushing the passer.
22:23And, um, I think, you know, I, I'm not totally sold on this giants run defense after what we saw.
22:30I know the Rams are probably one of the two or three best run games in football, but they look pretty bad.
22:37Yeah. I agree with you there. I, I can't bring myself to picking Jameis Winston.
22:42I know you said that their favorite, but like, I saw that game.
22:47I'm not sure what, uh, what you would expect.
22:50And the Titans defense, um, I was impressed with the Titans defense against the Eagles.
22:55I know the Eagles offensive line, isn't what it was, but like if the expectation is that you're just going to run
23:02the ball, the way that you did it good against the Cowboys against this Titans front with Jeffrey Simmons.
23:09Like, I don't know how they get points if they can't run the ball and Jameis is and you're asking James to throw a bunch.
23:18Yeah. They might hit a couple, but we know, we know the book on James is going to give it back to you.
23:25I just feel better about maybe the Titans. I know it's on the road, but maybe the Titans trying to finding a
23:33way to score some points, uh, more than I do about, to your point, Tony Pollard running the ball more than I
23:41do about the Titans or, excuse me, about the Giants.
23:44Seahawks commanders. Next. Next. Mike McDonald told reporters today that Sam Darnold, Darnold is practicing.
23:49So it's possible he will play. Does he have to, uh, I think a legitimate question.
23:55Uh, the commanders will of course be starting Marcus Mariota after Jane Daniels went down with the elbow.
24:01What is your key in this game? Dominic. I mean, I, it's, they're like eight of them and they're all on the, are on, um, Seahawks side.
24:10I mean, the first thing is Jason. He's been, um, the key to the Seahawks being able to score any points in either of these games.
24:19And he's been special. So like, I think that is where I'm focused at, particularly against those, um, that Washington secondary that
24:26has been a lot less impressive than, than Jason.
24:30Mikey's here still, man. Mikey's having a rough start.
24:33He's a rookie. Yeah. He's having a rough start.
24:36So like that's, that would be my key. And then of course, on the other side of the ball, uh, they can't
24:43have Marcus dropping back to pass on third and long.
24:47So like, I honestly, I, my first and second down is trying to get me the first, first down or get the third and three.
24:55If I'm at third and six or above, like I'm calling a screen or a check down or something like, uh, it's,
25:03it's not likely you're converting that, uh, just let the clock run.
25:07Like it's a tough spot to be in. And, and, Marietta was good in the Cowboys game and he was good in
25:14stretches last year when he replaced Jaden Daniels. But, um, I would have been worried for Jaden Daniels in this spot.
25:22Honestly, I feel much more confident in him, but it's a tough spot against this defense.
25:27Jeremiah, I love had nine carries at 3.2 yards per carry against Seattle game.
25:32Obviously got a little underhand out of hand in week one, the Patriots backs combined for, I think less than two yards carry.
25:40Stephens, this run defense is, I think with, I think the commanders with Mariota can win games.
25:46They really can, but not, yeah. Yeah. Against defenses that struggle against the run because obviously he gives you that same mobility.
25:53Um, but yeah, this is, that's a brutal matchup.
25:56I, it does. You never want to say, why rush Darnold?
26:00Who cares? It's so easy. Cause that's like tempting fate, but it does feel like a week where you don't necessarily need to push it.
26:09Also, drew lock. Yeah. Hooping. It's even, it's even the, the spiciest, most fun backup.
26:14I feel like we're about to see a bunch more.
26:17So, yeah. I mean, Wentz got two wins, but it wasn't quite the same.
26:22I know he didn't start the first game, but the way that he's winning, he won with nine points last week.
26:29It's not the same as throwing three touchdowns to JSN.
26:33He has been, um, lock's been fun. Lock also just, if it's JSN, he letting that bit fly.
26:39Like, no window is too tight. He's like, you know what?
26:43All right. It's like some of the end zone views on these throws are preposterous.
26:48Yeah. Uh, yeah, I respect it too. I know.
26:51Give me a backup quarterback. Who's at least going to be tries and stuff, you know, famous last words until, you know,
26:58you get three interception game and you're like, I'll try to guess you have too much.
27:04Okay. I got jets lions here. Um, I just finished watching.
27:08The jets offense back. So. key here is the jets receivers against the lions.
27:12DBs. Mm-hmm. I say this, uh, because the jets receivers are good.
27:17Yeah. Um, and it's not just Garrett Wilson. Adonai Mitchell has like, he, he, they went, you, they, right.
27:23Leaning into trying to get the targets. I forgot to write them down against green Bay.
27:29Yeah. They threw it over 12 times. Um, I thought also going back and watching Gino wasn't amazing in this game.
27:36He was fine, but obviously that didn't throw interception.
27:39So there's definitely some improvement in that regard. But the other thing that jumped out, like I coming into this season, I
27:46wasn't sure after last season of Gino's arm was kind of cooked and he's willing to throw it deep and actually drew
27:54a couple of penalties, gave the receivers chances. One should have been caught.
27:58Um, so you get now the opportunity to go up against the lion secondary that just lost Devante Maddox.
28:05Maybe it'll be rock you sin again. DJ Reed.
28:08Yeah. It's pretty brutal out there. Like, and it's certainly a mismatch with these receivers.
28:13So I just feel like if Gino can take care of the football and if the jets offensive line, which is decent
28:21holds up, there's going to be some real opportunities in the passing game against this Detroit team.
28:27Slide at the hutch, make sure he's blocked and, and, and feast.
28:31Oh yeah. I, I don't think, and Gino's been good.
28:34I think, um, relative to expectations. And this is, uh, another off season conversation.
28:39This is probably the opposite of the Steelers and that they have three first round picks next year and they have a good quarterback.
28:47So the current offense can develop like guys aren't just, languishing waiting for a quarterback savior.
28:53They have someone who's playing well enough so that they can, um, grow and get better.
28:58And we're in, they're demonstrating like the receivers are getting better.
29:02The receivers are getting more and more comfortable. The tackles are, are dealing with the challenges of protecting a guy who is not quite as mobile.
29:11Um, like, I think that situation is good for them.
29:14they also need, if the game is close, I don't have faith in the jets.
29:19This is like that cliche of not knowing how to win a game.
29:24Yeah. Yeah. They like fall perfectly into it. Not a cliche when your head coach can't.
29:29Right. But I think like, like it's actually like, Ooh, there might be like legitimate.
29:34No, no, no, no. No. I guess you, you take cliche as meaning that it's not true.
29:40Okay. Cliche is just something that people say a lot.
29:44I'm saying that this puts, this puts, um, a definition to the cliche where you can clearly see what people mean when they say that.
29:52Yeah. And that's it. It's like where you just don't, you're making the bad, the wrong decisions all the time.
29:59It was really bad in that situation where he was kind of confused.
30:04And, um, that's not quite the same thing on the other side sideline with Dan Quinn, but we'll see, or not Dan
30:11Quinn, Dan Campbell, but we'll see how it works out.
30:15Um, just defense has looked okay, but you know, hasn't really been tested Titans.
30:19You got the Packers with their offensive line situation.
30:22Um, you know, the Packers could have run the ball, but I don't think the Packers would be able to run the ball generally.
30:31Uh, obviously this is a pretty poor significant test in Detroit.
30:34So I'm going lines here kind of in part because of what you said, which is even if it's close, um, I'm
30:42going to defer to Detroit, but I do, I just don't, I, the Jets have matchup advantages here, you know, and a
30:49quarterback who is willing to give his two very, his two receiver.
30:54Maybe I'm being a little bit too high on 80 Mitchell after two weeks, but so funny too.
31:00When the trade happened, he was just like seen as a throw in for sauce garden, right?
31:06Coming from Indianapolis. And he is very clearly their wide receiver too.
31:10And looks better than several wide receiver twos around league.
31:13So, all right, you're up Panthers Browns. Panthers Browns.
31:16All right. So I, I viewed this from like the Panther side because like, I think they should be expected to win
31:24this game and you got to find a way to contain Boston and don't turn the ball over.
31:30And I think you're a better team as excited as people, not excited, but as well, as people thought Deshaun Watson played,
31:37it was grading on a Deshaun Watson scale where you go back and watch it.
31:43It's like, he didn't play great, but like he was okay.
31:46And like, it's a lot of short. Yeah. It was a lot of short passes.
31:523.7 areas per attempt. Oh, that's what it was.
31:55Yeah. It was a lot of short passes and then like explosive plays.
31:59One is Denzel Boston broke a bunch of tackles for a 50 yard touchdown.
32:04Like you can't do that. Another one's like a fade to Denzel Boston.
32:08And it was short fields provided by the bucks making mistakes.
32:12So I think that you could come out of this game.
32:16Thinking like the Browns are a lot better than they were the week prior, but I feel like it was a lot
32:23more about the bucks, putting them in these situations and, and in the game being close at the end, I, I, I
32:31see this from, from the, the Panthers side is like, if you don't give it to them, you'll be fine.
32:38The bucks linebacker play was abysmal in this last game.
32:41Um, Harold fan and junior is still wide open right now against them.
32:46Uh, I, I have Harold fan and, and I see, so I loved it, but if I'm a bucks fan, I would not love it.
32:54Uh, now you up against Panthers defense where I, Devin Lloyd, just sensational for them.
32:59And really nice to see them get a bounce back after week one, which was an invisible display of tackling, but that
33:07obviously comes with the caveat that it was against good brush.
33:11So not that Watson is that much more significant of a test, but I think there's like, okay, awful week one, great week to do it again.
33:20And because the Panthers offense has more than held up their side of the equation.
33:25Bryce young has been lighting it up. So I agree.
33:29I just wrote down Panthers tackle, like, please just tackle in this one.
33:33Um, I do want to talk about the Panthers offense in more depth.
33:37Let's see on the schedule because I just, this game, I was just like, I can't, I can't, I just haven't found the right spot.
33:46Um, okay. So goes bears Falcons. Okay. So they got the lions next week.
33:51Yeah. Panthers fans. I promise. I'm going to give your Panthers some attention.
33:55Uh, and love if this week goes as planned.
33:58Uh, yeah, I'm taking Carolina here for the Browns.
34:02How about you? Yeah. I'm the same. I got Carolina for this one.
34:06Chief dolphins. We'll be quick on this one. This is my game.
34:10I just want to complain about something. It's been two games last week against the Niners.
34:16And again, I know the game got out of hand, whatever.
34:19Malik Willis had two carries on the season. He has eight carries, which is fewer than Kirk cousins and Gino Smith.
34:27Now again, game script. I know it plays into this.
34:30Dolphins are obviously playing from behind, but last year he had 40.
34:34Devon H. Chan last year led the league in explosive runs, 10 yard plus runs.
34:39Oh, sorry. I 40 is not intendably. We'll listen to that 40.
34:43I meant to say Devon H and I mixed up my numbers.
34:47Let me do that. Let me repeat. Devon H and last year had 40 explosive runs, which led the NFL so far through two weeks.
34:56He has two. Two, this Dolphins run game should be so much better than it is with those two.
35:03Those are two of the most athletic explosive guys in the NFL.
35:07Also he's under center. H and her center 69% of the time or 73% of the time.
35:12Last year, he was barely under center. I thought you go out, you get Malik Willis, who's this dynamic rushing threat.
35:20I know around the NFL design quarterback runs are down.
35:23How is there not a more robust option game with these two players?
35:28Yes. Bobby slow it. I'm talking to you. I'm so impressed that you could build.
35:33You could have that much passion for a Dolphins game.
35:36That's it. That is incredible. Shout out Bobby. Get it together.
35:40Bobby. Bobby's world. Hand it off. Let Malik run.
35:43Yeah. I assume we're both on the cheese here.
35:46She's a good at football. They're going to win by a lot of points.
35:51Okay. Chargers bills. Ooh, you. Yeah. It's a, Ed Oliver coming back.
35:55Not yet. Maybe. I don't know. Dion Walker or is, is all I need for the interior of that Chargers front.
36:02If you have Ed in Dion, like it'd be great.
36:06Yeah. I think it's Dion. I don't, I also heard Dion, but I don't pretty sure it's Dion.
36:12Um, yeah, that is a mismatch. Of course. Um, Vlad McConkie should be healthy available for this game.
36:18Uh, it's pretty ugly outside of him right now in LA.
36:22I think. I feel. Okay. Let, let's put, put it to you this way.
36:27Which side of the ball do you think is more likely to bounce back for the Chargers?
36:32The offense or the defense? I mean, I guess it has to be the offense.
36:38Yeah. Right. Because the, the defense will be going up against the strength of the bills.
36:43I mean, they're rushing attack in the way that their offense in general, obviously is seem to make the, the head coach change was about.
36:52We want to be aggressive. Right. And they are going after people offensively.
36:56And there's no reason to believe that if the two teams that they played so far, slow them down, haven't slowed them
37:04down, that this team is going to slow them down.
37:07So yeah, the offense has the pieces if a healthy McConkie and maybe they can figure out what to do interior with the interior line.
37:16And, um, Jim Leonard's defense hasn't become all that much better than we thought it was.
37:21It's, it's different than I anticipated being like, it's a lot more zone.
37:26Um, if you thought he was going to bring a lot of the Denver stuff, I guess he's bringing more of the
37:33Wisconsin stuff than the Denver stuff, but it, it's been like inconsistent as hell.
37:38So, uh, that's where I, if I were to charge is I'd be more optimistic.
37:43Yeah. I will say about the charges defense. The, the one thing that LA has done well is stop the run.
37:50So at least with Buffalo, but the, you just think about all the bills, explosive plays we've seen over the last two
37:58weeks and all of the explosives, you know, the fact that we've seen this charge defense, which used to do not give
38:05up explosives at all struggle in that regard. Um, but yeah, I feel like offense is where my eye, you know, it's
38:13just because it's just been such a comedy of errors in terms of execution and the run game, uh, drops, bad plays
38:20by everyone, non offense that they're just, they're not, I think it's safe to say you're not, they're not gonna be a
38:28top 10 unit, but they're better than the product that they've put out thus far.
38:33I always wonder this question and it goes for offenses and defenses and, and everyone, I was thinking about it a lot for the Cowboys.
38:42It's like, would you rather have like, and I guess the answer is you'd rather there be a bunch of different mistakes than be like one glaring issue.
38:51Cause I guess you can convince yourself that we aren't bad at these things.
38:56We just slipped up and we can like address it.
38:59If you just like the Cowboys, it's like their run fits are so inconsistent where like, you can convince yourself that we
39:07could consistently have the right run fits. We could be good at stopping the run.
39:12It's a great question. Cause it kind of brings up what's fixable and what's not team.
39:18Right. I think I tend to go to, have I seen this player be good before?
39:23Okay. I've seen Vlad McConkie and Justin Herbert be good.
39:27I've seen a Marian Hampton look explosive. I've seen like some of these players block better than they are.
39:33So, uh, you know, taking Buffalo here. Um, I, I, like I said, I would, I think for the bills now, I'm
39:41like kind of the offenses we already know going to be a top three unit.
39:46I am watching this bills defense with more curiosity because, you know, through the first two weeks they have given up a
39:53lot of points granted to good opponents. So let's see.
39:57Can they, well, Texans are offenses. Pretty good. Well, that's what's next.
40:01Texans Colts, uh, big game because somebody is about to start season.
40:05Oh, and three. Um, and I don't think anyone thought, not, not maybe no one thought, but the Texans were a preseason darling.
40:13They've lost close. Well, it wasn't that close to Cincinnati.
40:16It felt closer than it was. Week one was close.
40:20Um, and it just, it's been weird because the defense is still, I think we still think is very good.
40:27And they actually played well last week. I thought the offense has been fine.
40:31They still can't run the ball. So I'll start there.
40:35That's my side of the ball. Um, I've got a key that's really based on what I've seen from this Indianapolis defense
40:42early on, but particularly thinking about, uh, the Sunday night game against Kansas city.
40:47Attack the linebackers. Cause geez, Andy Reed clearly went into that game.
40:51Drew a big circle. Kyle Shanahan style around a King Dave's gather in Jalen Carly's who, I mean, if Travis Kelsey, look,
40:59hall of famer, one of the greatest to ever do it.
41:03But if he's putting up 101 yards on you, you probably have a problem in the middle of the field.
41:09Um, but it wasn't just him, the running backs, the chiefs running backs also were a big part of the passing game.
41:17Kenneth Walker and Emma Johnson. Um, and I think Houston can do the same.
41:22Dalton Schultz actually had the most targets without Nico Collins against Cincinnati.
41:26That was also clearly their plan in that game to attack the backers.
41:30I think in this one, I think Nico is going to be back.
41:35But even with that said, if Houston isn't aggressively going after the second level of the Colts defense, they've made a mistake.
41:42I'll also add, they didn't play a lot of 12 personnel last week, which is something I thought we would see more of against Cincinnati without Nico Collins.
41:52So I'm curious to see if they bring that back a bit as well.
41:57And the corners of the Colts are not healthy.
42:00So like, it's, uh, I guess you may not have the receivers to exploit it for the Texans, but, um, that's another
42:07spot that feels weak about that defense. And from the other side of the ball, um, I, the numbers didn't bear this
42:15out as much as I expected, but I haven't been, I've been surprised at the Texans run defense through the course of these, um, first two weeks.
42:24It wasn't as dominant as I expected it to be.
42:28And of course that is the, the strength of what the Colts do is run the ball with Jonathan Taylor.
42:34So like, I think that's going to tell me a lot.
42:38We talked about this last week is that this team is this defense, the Texans defense is predicated on winning on early
42:46downs and allowing their pass rushers to do work and, uh, putting their really great corners in those coverage situations where they can create big plays and turnovers.
42:55So that would, that's what it simply boils down to me right there is how they can win those early downs.
43:03Of course, that's the run game, but it's also the short pass game.
43:07They're not going to be dumb enough. I think to voluntarily, unless the game gets out of hand, just do five, seven
43:15step drops and sit back there and, um, and dare them.
43:18You have to force them into that situation, which is where they are at their best.
43:24This is one where I think Daniel Jones's mobility, uh, is very important because the first two weeks of the season, both
43:31Josh Allen and Joe Burrow were able to punish Houston's defense explosive plays when they were able to extend.
43:38That was a big thing with Burrow, right? Like the big plays were kind of second, mostly second reaction plays.
43:45Um, and that's when the season, like Jones has looked fine on the move on booting, but he, you know, is he
43:52actually capable of escaping the pocket, making a play outside of structure, something that's probably going to be important against this team in particular.
44:01Yeah, we'll see. I think, I mean, he looks amazing considering just, yeah, but, but, uh, yeah, there is no, um, pass rushing on a curve.
44:09Like they are going to rush you as if you are fully healthy.
44:14So he has to be able to move. Now that was thinking actually against the chiefs.
44:19Cause against the Ravens, uh, okay. So yeah, it's early on zero completions against the Ravens on the run against the chiefs on the run.
44:28Daniel Jones went three for six for 15 yards.
44:31So right now that's not been part of his game.
44:34Um, going to Houston here. I got burned last week by saying the Texans defense was going to bounce back and be angry.
44:42Uh, but you know, the Bengals are a very good team and I don't think the Colts are.
44:49Yeah. I'm with you. And, um, yeah, diamond studded earpieces about the fire.
44:53Some people. I like those things. I tried to get somebody to make me some, but they weren't trying to do it.
45:01It was the morning after, uh, I was on get up on Tuesday.
45:05So I emailed the producer at like 1130. It was like, you think somebody could get me, could bedazzle my earpiece so
45:13I can, I can pull that move off. Would you be on the sideline if you were an owner or would you be in the mix?
45:21I don't think so. Like I, I might be listening in, but I feel like I'd be in the box.
45:28I don't know. Like it feels, that's one of the things I, I, you gotta wait for the right time.
45:35You gotta wait until I will wait. It feels me.
45:39I would wait until we were, I knew we were going to like have a big win.
45:44Then I would come back. Of course. In the glory fourth quarter show up, but I don't really see the benefit.
45:52It just seems weird that like on the sideline, the head coach supposed to be in charge.
45:57If I'm lurking around, it just feels undercutty. But anyway.
46:01Lurking. All right, let's take a break. Come back.
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48:02All right, we're back. Cardinals-Niners, probably not one of those bitter games.
48:06It's my game. What the San Francisco offense did to Miami.
48:10Miami is the worst defense in the NFL, right?
48:13We're pretty comfortable. I mean, because Dallas and Carolina kind of got it together in week two to some degree.
48:20Again, it's the Dolphins. Brock Purdy went 20 for 22 for 287 yards and two touchdowns.
48:26That's 13 yards per attempt. It's a 91% completion rate.
48:29Pitch and catch, baby. Okay, so the San Francisco offense is really good.
48:33And I think the Cardinals defense you really saw against Seattle.
48:37Some of the vulnerabilities there. But I'm going to go to the other side of the ball because I think for San
48:45Francisco, the weakness showed up a little bit in week one.
48:49And they weren't obviously not tested in this game.
48:52But I do think they can be beaten on the ground.
48:55And you really saw that against the Rams. Again, the Rams are a very good run game.
49:01But I went back and watched some of the Dolphins runs.
49:05And I'll talk about the Dolphins in a minute.
49:08And the defensive line in San Francisco kind of gets pushed around.
49:12CJ West, I watched the Rams once too. Osa, Dugizua, Keon White.
49:16There's some vulnerability there. Dre Greenlaw behind them. So, you know, Arizona, last week game script kind of got away from them.
49:24So, Jeremiah Love couldn't really run the football that much against Seattle.
49:28But you drafted a running back third overall, man.
49:31If you can't start running the football better than what we've seen, that's going to look like a really, really rough decision.
49:39So, I'm looking at this Niners defense that plays a lot of light boxes.
49:43And I really want to see Arizona play some bully ball against them.
49:48Yeah. I think you're right. I think that's the way to go about, I'm going to say attacking this team.
49:55But honestly, like going forward, that's like should be the Cardinals game plan.
49:59And Jacoby Brissette's another guy who's like solid. But like you don't want to put too much on his shoulders.
50:06And it feels like it might just be my algorithm, but it's been taken over with Marvin Harrison Jr.
50:13Like assessments to some degree, which like that makes the offense struggle even more.
50:17But yeah, I think that's the way you go to challenge this team.
50:22But I still like, I don't know, the way the 49ers are playing right now.
50:27And I guess it skewed a bit because we got a version of the Rams week one that I think it's hard
50:34for any of us to like definitively say that it was the flight.
50:39But it didn't seem like the real version of Rams.
50:42And then they got the Dolphins. So like they look like world beaters, but maybe they haven't really been tested yet.
50:50So I don't know. I wouldn't be shocked, I guess, if Arizona won this game.
50:55The Niners? Oh, really? You're going to pick Niners, but you wouldn't be shocked.
51:00I'm taking the Niners as well. Well, the Niners get Denver week four and Seattle week five.
51:05There we go. We'll see. Time to get down to business.
51:09Afternoon games. Yeah, I'm taking the Niners here too.
51:12I mean, they look excellent early on, but like you said, opponent is of note.
51:17All right. You have Vikings. Kyler Murray's back. Tampa.
51:20Wolf, Wolf. They were one of our losers earlier this week.
51:24Both sides of the ball. What is your key in this game?
51:28It's a must-win game for Tampa, it feels like.
51:31Yeah. I mean, of course, we can't enter a Vikings game without discussing Brian Flores right now.
51:37The way that that game was called was excellent.
51:40There also was like, considering that they only had three points, there was some movement of the ball.
51:46It's not impossible to move the ball on this Flores defense.
51:50But Baker historically has been better against the Blitz than most quarterbacks, so that might work to his advantage.
51:57This Blitz is a little different than most teams' Blitzes, but he's not a quarterback that I think shrivels in the Blitz.
52:04And the numbers support that historically. He's been better against the Blitz than most quarterbacks.
52:09But this is still a Bucky Irving game, a screen game, a Bucky Irving running game.
52:15That, to me, is the question. But I had high hopes for the Bucs.
52:20I think we did our defensive draft, and I had them pretty high when I was on your show.
52:26And my whole premise of this team was like, great offensive line.
52:30This defense is going to be incredible. The defense has not done that.
52:35The front has been getting their ass kicked in a way that I did not anticipate.
52:40I thought they were going to be dominating people.
52:43And they're out there. People aren't hurt. Vita Veda's out there.
52:47They're healthy, yeah. Yeah, not kicking ass. Bucky's offensive line is good, too.
52:52Yeah, so that, to me, is this defense has to play up to their level of ability.
52:57And I like the screen and run game to Bucky Irving on the other side.
53:03And then, of course, there's this looming question on the other side where it's like, what is Kyler Murray?
53:09I assume he's going to be better than Carson Wentz.
53:13But we'll see. Well, that's what I'm most intrigued by in this game because I think we, at this point, know what the Viking defense is.
53:21Vikings defense, pardon me. Man, talk about defensive drafts.
53:25Yes, I was on the Bucs, too. I remember I had the Vikings six in defense, and then I felt bad about it.
53:32I forgot if I had JP on. Because I was looking at the personnel, I was like, I don't know.
53:39Yeah. I feel bad. And, oh, my God. I mean, it's just been two weeks, I understand.
53:45But those are strong divisional opponents. I know the Packers offensive line is in this situation.
53:51You could argue that Brian Flores' tape through two weeks probably better than any coach both sides of the football right now in the NFL.
53:59And some of the individual players, you know, Dallas Turner, I think, has kind of entered made the leap territory.
54:06You don't like some of those sacks against tight ends.
54:09I see you. I know you're talking about competition.
54:13Okay, here's a more hipster name. Jalen Redman is unbelievable.
54:16Their defensive team. He's been pretty good for a while.
54:19But holy mackerel against Chicago. I was watching, like, thinking this dude is slurring.
54:24I was so excited about Caleb Banks. And so when I'm watching the plays, I'm like, that must be Caleb Banks.
54:31No, it's not. It's not Caleb Banks. He's not.
54:34He ain't it. It ain't. It's not him. We get too excited about first round rookies like Ruben Banks, Caleb Banks.
54:42And then you watch and then it's like some, like, fourth rounder from, like, 2022 who's, like, the best player in the league.
54:50I'm not saying this, but I don't even know if Redman.
54:53I know he's not. He's a late rounder, I think, maybe, or something.
54:58Anyways, he's been unbelievable. Yeah. I peek behind the curtain.
55:01Sometimes I'll text Dominique plays and ask, like, what's going on in coverage here?
55:06And I was almost going to send you a bunch of Bucks plays because I just could not figure out what was happening on some of them.
55:15Please don't hesitate to send them. I would love to laugh at those.
55:20They're too talented to be as bad as they were last week.
55:24But I'm going Minnesota here. Flores. Yeah. And I agree.
55:27I'm going Minnesota, too. But I made the case in the offseason that I like the Vikings in their division because I
55:35think the ceiling is really high for them. And, like, I assume their defense will be good.
55:41At least good. Their defense looks to be great.
55:44And if Kyler Murray gets them to, like, okay, mediocre at offense, like, this, to me, is the best team in their division.
55:52But anyway, that is to be seen. I'm excited to watch Kyler this week because, you know, obviously last week was cut short so quickly.
56:00Okay. We have not diverged yet. That's concerning. I think that speaks to the nature of the game.
56:06These last few, there's a few more close ones.
56:09So hopefully. Including the one that we're going to talk about both sides of the ball.
56:15Raiders Saints. I promised this earlier. I said Raiders fans, Saints fans, we're going to acknowledge that your teams are fun and feisty early on.
56:24I'm going to discuss this game. I gave you the Raiders offense.
56:28I have the Saints offense. I'm going to go first here.
56:31Mike, he's a pretty simple one. Can we get second half Tyler Shuck all game?
56:37Please. Yes. First half, thus far, it's just two weeks.
56:40Shuck has had a QBR of 15 and negative 0.1 CF and EPA per dropback and a 33% success rate.
56:47That's 29th, 27th, and 28th. In the second half, he has had an 81 QBR, which is fifth league wide.
56:54And he's been 13th and 12th in EPA per dropback and success rate.
56:58So I went back and looked at some of the things going on to try to figure out if there's any differences.
57:06And I think it's worth noting, it's not like they were playing from significantly behind to where defense is set.
57:13Because I think sometimes when you hear a quarterback's in better in the second half, you think, has it been situational?
57:20But I don't really think that's been it. And even when you dig into a lot of the underlying, like, area yards
57:27per target, all that, it's honestly pretty similar. Same level of being inside the pocket, same level of five-man route concepts.
57:35One thing that has been notably different between the first and the second halves of these games is he has been significantly better when he's kept clean.
57:44In fact, in the second half, he's been awesome when he's kept clean.
57:48And he gets the ball out much faster. In the second half of these games, he's at a 2.55 time to throw, which is second fastest in football.
57:58So there's something going on where in the second halves of these games, whether it's him or Kellen Moore collecting information in
58:05the first halves or whatever, he has been a better, faster quarterback in the second halves.
58:11And if they can do that more consistently, then you really can start believing in this Saints offense.
58:17And it also could be, and it's not based on watching, but it also could be, like, you have to let loose in those situations.
58:26They were trailing in both of those games, and they were both kind of comebacks.
58:31But I didn't get that sense watching the Ravens game.
58:34Like, definitely in the first game, I got the sense that he was a better quarterback in the second half.
58:41But in the Ravens game, I know it to be true, but as I'm watching the game, I was like, this Saints offense is moving the ball.
58:50They look good. They, like, would peter out and kick field goals or make mistakes.
58:55But it just didn't feel like there was a different version of quarterback.
59:00It was just like, oh, the Ravens better pull away or they're going to get walked down.
59:06And they did. Yeah, I mean, they, in the Ravens game, too, I won't say some fluky stuff happened, but, like, Juwan
59:13Jackson broke, like, five tackles on a third and long.
59:17Chris Olave is just really freaking good. I mean, like, Chris Olave, he's definitely a top 10 receiver.
59:23I feel confident saying that. But he's been healthy, man.
59:26And he's been freaking awesome. And they've been doing this without their first round draft pick, Jordan Tyson.
59:32So they also have a really good, you can tell Shuck has complete faith in him.
59:38And I do think it's impressive that they've done all this, despite the fact that they can't run the football for crap.
59:45So, but I'm just saying, if they can stop punting on the first halves of these games, then I already feel pretty good about my Saints division pick.
59:55I would feel a lot better. What you got on the other side of the ball?
60:01Yeah, I was disappointed, honestly, in the Raiders' offenses.
60:04Like, we have been talking about how the Raiders are playing much better and they don't have to rush Mendoza out there.
60:11And it seems like the defense is the reason why they don't have to rush Mendoza out there.
60:17It feels like Kubiak is showing his worth. Like, they don't have a, well, not completely.
60:23That's not fair. There are designed explosives that are beautiful, that he designs week to week and Kirk Cousins has been hitting
60:30those, or at least in the Chargers game, hit those.
60:34They just don't seem, like, consistent offensively. Like, that's the part to me.
60:38I expected them to be, yeah. I guess I expected Kirk Cousins' improvement on the offensive line.
60:44Ashton Gentry. Like, I expected this offense, and I know Bowers, he should be back this week, right?
60:50That's what they're saying, I think. That probably will help the offense.
60:54But honestly, I was a little disappointed in how, like, inconsistent that offense was.
60:59But maybe they'll grow into it. Because I guess I assumed Kirk Cousins would.
61:04That's the reason why we're not rushing Mendoza is because Cousins is operating his offense.
61:09But it's really not. Yeah, he had on a couple of big plays to Trey Tucker that were the difference.
61:16There was a busted coverage. Yeah. I hear you.
61:19Yes. I do. I'm looking at some of the numbers.
61:23I do want to nod to the Raiders' defense, because I should have mentioned them when I was talking about the Saints office.
61:30Because they have been, I think, pretty impressive. Max Crosby looks great.
61:35Hezekiah Masses taking away the football. I think some of the young players have really.
61:40Kobe Dean also was really good in that game, I thought.
61:43So, obviously, that was their big priority, was stabilizing the linebacker group.
61:48Offensively, yeah. It's been okay. It's been inconsistent. I do think, I mentioned this, Kubiak.
61:53Some of the plays, when you watch, they're, you know, he, I feel like, has a really great feel for how to attack defenses.
62:01That sounds cliche. But it's just palpable. No, I mean, I think that the design explosives is where I see what you're talking about.
62:09Where it's like, you can see the concept. Not every, like, yeah.
62:13And you can see that it's bespoke, I think, is what you're talking about.
62:18Where it's like, oh, he saw that we could do this against this team at this time.
62:24It's different than, yeah. Yes, he had a beat on the Chargers.
62:28The Saints defense, though, I posted this about the Ravens.
62:31I don't know if you saw that, because everybody was like, oh, Ravens, why didn't they run the football in the second half?
62:39They're really, people always do this. And then when you go back and watch, you're like, okay, run stuff, offensive holding.
62:47Yeah, I did it. I ran it down on Get Up the next day, where I was like, I get what you're saying, guys.
62:55Yeah, like watch the drives. Let's look. They got four drives in the second half.
63:00Let's talk about when they were supposed to run the ball.
63:04One was a two-minute drill. I also, though, okay, like I want to take a minute to talk about this.
63:11The Saints defense is playing really good football. And I mean, you know, the first half, Lamar was carving them up.
63:18But in that second half, I just think on so many of those Ravens drives, you saw individual players making just impressive plays.
63:26DBs making plays on the football. Quincy Riley, Kulia McInstrie, run defense.
63:30Some of the things they did to Baltimore with their linebackers, which I'm going to get to when we talk about the Ravens.
63:38And then Chase Young and Carl Granderson are just good.
63:41Like, this is good. And I remember in the second half of last year, Dominique, the Saints defense, like when you went
63:49back and you looked, you're like, wait a second.
63:52This was a top 10 unit? And then you wondered maybe if it was competition.
63:57They're playing the NFC South or whatever. But I feel like we've seen now through the first two weeks that this is a legit group.
64:05They're well coached. They have good game plans. I thought some of the stuff they did against the Ravens were really clever.
64:13Brandon Staley back, maybe. Well, the Chargers, you know.
64:16Not everybody's supposed to be a head coach, I guess.
64:19Some people are coordinators. Yeah. I don't know. I'm going Saints here.
64:24Yeah. But this could go either way. What is the line?
64:27Now I'm wondering. This is a tough one. Saints by three at home.
64:32So it's a pick him. You're Saints. You're going to go Saints too?
64:36Yeah, I'm going Saints. I think if it was in the Raiders, I guess I might go Raiders.
64:42But all right. Let's do Ravens Cowboys next. We only have three more games to one is the Case Keenum.
64:49Okay. Ravens Cowboys. Of note, I got an email from Gabriel Martin, who has a podcast in Brazil about the NFL.
64:56I think it's called Cara Dos Sports to alert me to the fact that the field condition at their stadium is a problem.
65:04Yeah. He says this is on the ground reporting for the meeting.
65:08I'm showing Lenny. He says the stadium is owned by the state of Rio de Janeiro.
65:14Having two teams play 40 games each there over the year makes it hard to keep it in good condition.
65:21One of their players has been complaining over the last few weeks.
65:25Also, it has rained 10 times more than expected this September.
65:29So my key is just please nobody get hurt.
65:32I should have started by saying this game is in Brazil.
65:36If that's not obvious. You have the Cowboys offense against the Ravens defense.
65:40Why don't you go first here? Yeah. I mean, the Ravens defense was it's hard to know what to think about them
65:48because I was really impressed with what they did in week one.
65:52And I was made to appreciate it more when I saw what the Colts did offensively against the Chiefs.
65:58It wasn't just that the Colts are terrible. And I was really impressed with the way that they protected their corners and by using disguise.
66:07Anyway, I don't need to get into specifics. But this week they just felt toothless and it didn't against the Saints.
66:14It was very uninspired. And the pass rush that I expected to be there was not.
66:19And that is that was the thing that killed them last year.
66:24And that's why they were making moves to address it this year.
66:28And they haven't fixed it just yet. It doesn't seem so.
66:31I'll tell you that. Matabuike, it sounds like he might actually be back this week.
66:37So, yeah. But I mean, right. I don't want to put too much stock into it.
66:42But it is. I well, I did feel watching them that they really needed more juice on the inside.
66:49So he could be hopefully helpful there. Were you impressed by Cowboys offense?
66:53I mean, yeah, the Cowboys offense is awesome. And it was against the commanders defense that is not awesome.
67:00So, like, I, yeah, I was impressed by them.
67:03I actually, it's, they have to do a lot less to impress me because I already have high expectations of them.
67:10So, yeah, they did what they were supposed to do against the commanders.
67:14Cowboys receivers against the Ravens corners. Kind of what I would look at in that side of the ball.
67:21Because I think Ravens can stop them on the ground.
67:24But, ooh, CeeDee Lamb this last week. It's tough.
67:27Yes. Ravens safeties, not Campbell Hamilton. The other ones.
67:30Yeah. My boy Innocent. Made some. They blitzed Kyle so much now.
67:35He does that. Made some pretty bad tackling mistakes, too, in this game.
67:39Like I said, a lot of it is awesome also.
67:42But so are CeeDee Lamb and George Pickens. Other side of the ball.
67:47This one's impossible to pick, though. Yeah. Well, okay.
67:50Hopefully we'll be on both sides. Other side of the ball.
67:54So we've got the Ravens offense against the Cowboys defense.
67:57I would feel better about this in normal conditions.
68:00Because I wrote down, like, Lamar, scramble. Jaden Daniels was, like, just killing them on the ground.
68:06But I'm a little nervous about it. One thing I wrote for Dallas is, can they create a gap pressure?
68:13Because that was one thing that Brandon Staley and the Saints defense did very good in the second half against the Ravens,
68:20sending their linebackers, Caden Ellis and Pete Werner, both against the run.
68:25Some of those run stuff we talked about. But also there was a play where Lamar Jackson, like, turned his back.
68:32They were running play action and was immediately met by a blitzer.
68:36The Ravens have a rookie center who has been okay running the football, but has struggled to pass protect.
68:42Dallas, meanwhile, is 29th in pass rush win rate.
68:46But Quinton Williams in this game only had one pressure.
68:49He's been pretty underwhelming early on. So interior pressure, whether manufactured or from the defensive tackles, is something I have my eye on in this game.
68:58Yeah. I think I would still go with the Ravens in this game.
69:02Who knows? We disagree? No! I was hoping the Cowboys, the commenters, are going to be so angry if we all pick the same.
69:11I'm very mad at the Cowboys. I can't pick them.
69:14They convinced me that their defense was going to be better, and they're not.
69:19I need to make a trend. You need three.
69:22Christian Parker and Michael McDaniel. I need one more coach with glasses to make a trend that glasses guys are catfishing us right now.
69:30Because every time they show Christian Parker this summer, I'm like, ooh, he looks smart.
69:35And then they give up five yards of rush.
69:38You know who doesn't wear glasses? Brian Flores doesn't wear glasses.
69:42Vic Fangio doesn't wear glasses. No, never. Mike McDonald does a very good glasses.
69:47What if Christian Parker comes out this week in contact?
69:50I might have to change. Oh, switch my pick.
69:53Okay. I'm going Ravens here, too, because the first half of Ravens offense did look awesome.
69:59And Lamar has been so accurate until that last throw.
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71:34Rams Broncos. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. I'm going to disagree with you on this one.
71:38It doesn't matter what you pick. I'm going the opposite one.
71:42No, no, no. We have to be authentic. I mean, honestly, I could convince myself that either team could win this.
71:49So, yes, we will be authentic. This is Sunday Night Football.
71:53Damn. I mean, the Broncos, I can go first so that I won't be cheated.
71:58Broncos offense we talked about earlier in this week against the Rams defense.
72:03Go. Yeah. I thought, looking back at Aaron Donald, he was really, like, really good.
72:08Better than I expected. Yeah. It's hard to get a good gauge for what the Rams defense is because, like, we had
72:15one week where we chalked it up to Australia and we had another week where they hurt Jackson Dark on the first drive.
72:23So, we saw a different version of it. But I thought they were really good against the run this week.
72:30And, of course, McDuffie got that interception, which was just a terrible throw.
72:35So, the Broncos, like, they – I think I made this point earlier when we were talking about the Jags.
72:41Like, the Broncos moved the ball. They didn't score until the end of the game.
72:47But they, like, moved the ball the entire game.
72:50So, I was impressed with that. Second week of Davis Webb, they got Waddle the ball.
72:55They got everyone the ball. It seemed like an effective offense.
72:59That offensive line I thought was dominant in that game.
73:02That matters to me in this particular matchup. I think I'm leaning – the problem is I thought – Can you wait until I do my part?
73:12No, you can't. I thought the Broncos' defense was all the way back because their pass rush was there and they were blitzing.
73:19I'll get to that side of the ball. Yeah.
73:23Yeah. All right. Sorry. Never mind. You can go to your side of the ball and then I'll make my pick.
73:30I want to know one thing here. In the Giants game, you know, it's hard to know what to take away from
73:37the Rams defense in that game to your side.
73:40But I did think – they had Trent McDuffie in the slot a bit in that game.
73:46He didn't play in the slot at all week one.
73:50This is a game where I would consider going to that pitch again with Jalen Waddle in the slot if the Rams
73:57– you know, there's going to be a little bit of a chess match between how the Rams deploy their corners.
74:04You know, they played a lot of man against Jameis.
74:08This is not the offense – the quarterback you play man against.
74:12It's not. So I don't think last week has like a ton of bearing on this one.
74:18And yeah, the pass rush. I am interested in whether – what we see from the second week of Aaron Donald.
74:25I talked about the Browns' offense at length earlier in the week.
74:29So you got Broncos fans. If you want to listen to me talk about Bowdoin X, you can check it out there.
74:37I wrote, yeah, for the – this is pretty simple.
74:40But for Denver, I mean, can you either pressure Stafford or if he throws the ball super quick, limit yards after the catch?
74:48You know, I think what we've seen from Matthew Stafford early in the season is what we saw from Matthew Stafford last
74:55year, which is if he's kept clean, it's night-night.
74:59But, you know, when he's pressured, he definitely is on the struggles.
75:03Again, you saw that. You saw that against San Francisco.
75:06I know that was weirdness in Australia or whatever, but the Giants didn't pressure him at all.
75:12And you saw what happened as a result. So now you got this Denver pass rush that I think, even without Jonathan Cooper, still looks good.
75:21Nick Benito still looks incredibly fast. I thought against the Jags, Zach Allen was like the best player.
75:27Like he was taking over drives. And, you know, the Rams' offensive line is very good for sure.
75:33But this Denver's defensive line is good too. Stafford, by the way, he's keeping under pressure so far this year.
75:40It's 2.9. So, yeah, 86 kept clean. So anyways, that's – like that's kind of – we don't know what the status is of Pukunikua.
75:49I guess I should add you also got to stop the Rams' early down run game.
75:54Yeah, that's what jumped out to me. Earn the right to pressure Matthew Stafford.
75:59I wouldn't be surprised if we see Kyron Williams slash Blake Corum get some targets, try to go after the Broncos linebackers.
76:06But Denver's front has to take over this game.
76:10Yeah. Yeah, the way that the Chiefs ran the ball on the Broncos gave me some pause given that the Rams are a very good running team.
76:19So that gives me a little concern is they may not get in those situations where they can threaten Matt Stafford with
76:26that pass rush and the tight man coverage and the blitz.
76:30And so that had me a little hesitant. So I think I'm – I wanted to lean Broncos.
76:36But I'm sticking Broncos. Let's go. All right. I'm Rams here.
76:40This was actually my preseason Super Bowl pick, by the way, Rams-Broncos, which I feel better about after week two than I did after week one.
76:49Yeah. For me, that's just – the Rams offense right now, I just feel like watching them do that to New York without Pukunikua is very scary.
76:58All right. Final game, Eagles-Bears, the Monday night game.
77:01Alas, no Caleb Williams, no Tyson Bajan. It's Case Keenum.
77:05Yeah. Should be noted, last time these teams played, last year, I had to pull up the stat line like twice because I didn't believe it.
77:14I remembered it, but I didn't believe it. Kyle Menungai ran for 130 yards.
77:18Yeah. And DeAndre Swift ran for 125, which seems impossible.
77:22The Eagles played a lot of light boxes in that matchup.
77:26Dominique, something tells me with Case Keenum, a quarterback, we are not going to see that many light boxes from Big Fangio's defense this week.
77:34Yeah. Yeah. I think this should be a relatively easy game for the Eagles, but I guess I thought the Titans would be the same way.
77:43But they struggled with that and pulled it out of the end.
77:47I mean, I think this is, to me, we've been in this ongoing cycle for many years since the 2,000-yard Saquon season
77:55where we've been waiting for the Eagles' offensive line to be dominant again.
77:59And it's not. And that offense is never going to look as good as it looked then until they start road grading
78:07people again, which, like, that was one of the best offensive lines in NFL history.
78:12Like, so we should stop thinking that and have different expectations of this offense.
78:17There were times when I thought Jalen looked more comfortable, but he still threw two picks, which sucked, and he was under pressure a lot, which also sucked.
78:26But he came through at the end. I think the defense isn't as good as I thought it was going to be.
78:34Like, the talent is still there, but they just aren't as good.
78:38It's a lot of confusing things. It's early in the season.
78:42We know that these teams will be different later.
78:45They managed to steal a win with the Titans.
78:48I think, obviously, this is another game that they should definitely win this one more easily.
78:53Through the early part of the season, I feel good about Jalen Hurts.
78:58I think the marriage with Sean Mannion is starting to click.
79:02You saw him throw a bit more of the middle of the field.
79:06Also, just like their passing attack just now looks coherent.
79:10Yeah. Right? Like, it's not the Rams or whatever, like in terms of some of the tendencies.
79:15But, like, the use of motion, the way he gets receivers open.
79:20Mm-hmm. And just, it doesn't feel like he's asking the receivers to just go win.
79:25Yeah. He also has, I think, shown a much greater proficiency for attacking zone coverage than predecessors.
79:30And Hurts seems to be buying in. Like, he looks fairly confident to me throwing into some of those zone voids.
79:38There's some anticipatory throws. And I think the receivers just look awesome.
79:42Great. Yeah. The Tavian Wicks. Yeah. Has been so good that no one's talking about the fact that Makai Lemon doesn't do anything.
79:50Like, I mean, you know, he'll be fine. But I just...
79:53Smith's been great, too. Jeez Louise, that drive. Yeah.
79:57Holy crap. Yeah. So they can't run the ball.
80:00Defensively, you're right. They've been okay, but not dominant.
80:03I think they don't have Jonathan Grenard. They'll be better.
80:06Cooper Jean had a rough start. He was fine last week.
80:10So, you know, I think the Eagles are trending in the right direction.
80:14Obviously, the opponent this week, given the quarterback situation.
80:17You know, we're both going Philadelphia here. But let me ask you this.
80:22If Caleb had started, would you have taken Chicago or Philadelphia?
80:26I think I still would have gone Philadelphia. Yeah.
80:29Yeah, the Bears defense, I think. Philadelphia won't be able to move the ball in the air.
80:35Through the air. All right. That's it for this week.
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81:15Go Broncos. Oh, sorry. See you guys on Tuesday.
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