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2:48This is the NFL Week 4 Betting Preview. I'm Stucky and joining me, as always, my co-host, the one and only Doug Kazarian.
2:55And, of course, not pictured, but always with us, stat sound, Evan Abrams, who will be chiming in with some nuggets throughout
3:03and his best bet in just a moment. Doug, how goes it?
3:07How was your week three? Frustrating at times, but I also kind of knew it, right?
3:12A week ago, we sat here and I said, I hate the card.
3:16These are all sort of wishy-washy plays. I ended up going 3-1 and 1 in the contest, but it was just a tough one.
3:24But we could have got there, honestly, with both games I had.
3:28The Niners, obviously, wasn't a bad beat because the Cardinals were right there, but it was obviously volatile in the last few minutes.
3:36And then the Panthers had a million chances to pick off Watson, and then they did pick him off.
3:42And then you get the late hit and just a bizarre game.
3:46The Browns and Panthers just neither deserved a win, really.
3:49So one of those games. Got there with the totals for the most part.
3:54Tough. I mean, September's tough, right? We kind of knew the Chargers would be there, and obviously they didn't cover for fluky reasons.
4:01But I thought it was a really tough card, all things considered.
4:05Yeah, I had a profitable week. It could have been really good at the Rams.
4:10I had a pending teaser. I tried to middle it.
4:14That Rams PI was just – I still can't believe that they threw that flag.
4:19Where do you stand on the NFL potentially? I know they tried it before and it never worked because they just never overturned anything.
4:27But my one group – the UFL system seems to work.
4:30But like final two minutes, why not just actually utilize the eye in the sky consistently when you get a – like
4:37it just sporadically every once in a while you'll see the eye in the sky.
4:42It's like, oh, we picked up the flag or there was no foul.
4:47But it's like once every other game they pull it out.
4:50Well, I like the idea of replay, but if they're not going to overturn the PI in the NFC Championship game with
4:58the Saints-Rams, ironically also Sean Payton and the Rams, then what's the point, right?
5:02I don't like spot fouls anyway when these 50-yard spot fouls for DPI.
5:06I think it should be like college rules. That's a separate argument.
5:10But if they're not going to rule it in replay and then the rules analyst is going to be completely different than some of this stuff.
5:19I mean even the ACC, you hear the audio.
5:22It's like such an obvious call, the Clemson, North Carolina thing.
5:26Four old guys are saying one thing and then the younger guy is like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
5:32This is a rule. And then they all say, oh yeah, yeah, let's move on.
5:37We got it. Like they were all in on it.
5:40It's just some of the stupidity in these conversations just opened your eyes.
5:45But you can say UFL, but if you're not going to actually turn stuff over, like I said, the Saints-Rams famously in
5:52the NFC title game, then what's the point of having anything?
5:56So I think it's a giant mess. I think they get involved too much.
6:00I think it's very difficult. Let's be honest. It's very difficult at warp speed, all this stuff happening, these old guys.
6:07I mean just the spotting of the ball. You get like the DUI walk from the old guy coming in and he has to go around a player.
6:16And it's just like the spotting. It's just all mayhem.
6:20But they don't want to legislate it properly even with instant replay.
6:24Yeah, I mean it was a really rough, rough day for the officials.
6:28I mean you almost had two games decided. Among teams favored to go to the playoffs, the PI on the Ravens was arguably even worse.
6:36I mean CeeDee Lamb is just grabbing his arm to prevent the interception.
6:41The defender's just trying to pick it off. And then they say like you almost had two games.
6:47One was decided by a bogus PI call, but almost two.
6:50Like that could swing seeding. It could swing whether you make the playoffs or not.
6:55And the hits on the quarterback. The Mahomes one, I even thought the Deshaun Watson one was very questionable.
7:01I don't think he really hit him in the head.
7:05But either way, these roughing the passer calls. The body weight's got to go.
7:09Especially when you brace yourself. There's nothing else you can do.
7:13I mean these quarterbacks are worth billions to the franchise.
7:16So I get the need to protect them. I honestly do.
7:20Because you don't want by week eight every backup playing.
7:23Because these defenders would tee off. I mean look what happened in the Oregon-USC game.
7:28You got guys celebrating those kind of hits. So I don't know what the right way is.
7:34But I do know fans are left upset and annoyed and turned off.
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7:49We'll lock in our five contest picks throughout. And we'll build our Sunday six-pack, which is our five contest picks.
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9:05Let's check out the marquee matchups we'll all end up betting for week four.
9:10All right, let's kick things off with Thursday night football.
9:13Steelers are a two and a half point road favorite at Cleveland.
9:17Total has come down to 38 and a half, due slightly to the under at DraftKings.
9:22I've talked about this in the past. I think a friend of mine, Cleve Thier, he brought this up a while back first.
9:30But first time head coaches have really struggled in their first Thursday night game historically.
9:35So it's like a new, it's an odd prep, right?
9:38Short week. And they've especially struggled when it's early in the year when you're still trying to sort things out.
9:45Since 2000, first time head coaches in their first Thursday night football game are 20 and 40 straight up.
9:51As home dogs, 3 and 18 straight up, 6 and 14 against the spread.
9:56And when it's early in the season over the first eight weeks, 5 and 19 straight up, 6 and 18 against the spread.
10:03Home dogs, 0 and 7 straight up, 1 and 6 against the spread.
10:08So when I look at this game, well, before I share my thoughts, Doug, do you have anything here on Thursday night
10:15in what should be a fairly ugly game? Yeah, I know the Browns are 2 and 1 and tied for first place.
10:22And the winner of this game takes over first place.
10:25But I still don't believe in Cleveland. I thought Watson got away with a lot.
10:30Now he's played better than he did in week one.
10:34So there's something to be said about that. But they still have a delta of minus 17 point differential, which can be misleading through three games.
10:42I get it. But they're not good. Now the defense is much better than maybe we thought losing Garrett.
10:49But, you know, they've had some pieces like Jared Verse who've been really effective.
10:53I think for me, I would be betting Pittsburgh if there wasn't this long list of like Cleveland just dominating Pittsburgh on these Thursdays.
11:01And then home underdogs in this division, as you very well know, stuck, always like cover.
11:06So I'm just gun shy to bet against the Browns.
11:10But they easily, I don't think they handle success well.
11:13This is what I was talking about last week.
11:16Are they professionally mature enough to get a big win and then practice the right way all week?
11:22Now are they going to do it after back-to-back wins and to your point, a short week with a new coach?
11:29The problem is I don't think much of McCarthy.
11:32I do think a highly of both defenses, though, at least definitely the Steelers.
11:37And Rodgers should be able to do enough, but he's not effective under pressure at this age.
11:42So, I mean, I'm staying away, but I cannot bet Cleveland.
11:46I just can't. I don't know if I'll do it the rest of the year.
11:51Yeah, Watson was, he was, I think the Tampa game where he went 24-30 for 238, it was a lot of dink and dunk.
11:59He had a couple long passes, the 55-yarder to Boston.
12:02But last week he was really bad. I mean, 16 of 30, 144 against the Panthers defense that was dropping like flies.
12:09I think he had no big-time throws, three turnover-worthy plays, but he finished with two touchdowns and no interceptions.
12:15So, it could have went a lot worse. So, I, the sample size over the last couple years, he's still terrible.
12:22He looked terrible last week. I think the Tampa game was more of an aberration.
12:27And I think it's also noteworthy that there's, Elton Jenkins is going to be out.
12:32And that means Weikler is going to start at center.
12:36He's unplayable. The only reason he didn't get cut is because the rookie Brailsford, who was hurt, got hurt in camp.
12:43So, that against the Steelers defensive line, it could lead to some interior pressure, some Watson mistakes.
12:48Now, the Steelers, I think they did look a lot better against the Bengals.
12:53And I thought getting Pittman back was very helpful, especially on, like, third downs.
12:57And they just need his presence out there. I am a bit concerned with some of the injuries in the Steelers secondary.
13:05I mean, Joey Porter, I guess, is just never going to play.
13:09He's out again, even though he was trending towards playing.
13:12Ramsey is banged up. You know, you have Deshaun Elliott on IR.
13:16Brandon Echols is banged up. So, like, your corner situation, really the whole secondary, but it's pretty dicey.
13:22But is Pittsburgh the team? I mean, is Cleveland the team to really take advantage of that?
13:27I don't really think so. So, I think this should be at three.
13:32The Browns can't really run the ball, which is where the Steelers are at their weakest.
13:37So, yeah, I think that, and you have that whole first-time coaches.
13:41The Browns easily could be 0-3, right? Like, without the weather delay, one or two bounces last week, they're 0-3.
13:48So, yeah, I think the Steelers and Rodgers will do enough.
13:51Watson will make some mistakes against this defensive line.
13:54And I think the Steelers get it done. So, at 2-1⁄2, it would be Steelers or nothing.
14:00And I think the Steelers are, if you're looking for action, a good money line, parlay piece, maybe pair them with Baltimore.
14:07I also like, shout out Nick Giffen, if you follow him on the award-winning Action Network app.
14:13He bet Rodgers no interception at, like, minus 115.
14:16Rodgers, historically, doesn't turn the ball over. He has an interception in each of the first three games.
14:22And they were all bullshit. Like, drop, tipped passes that should have been, I mean, last week, it's right off the guy's hand, right to a safety.
14:31So, I'm sorry, he didn't have one against Atlanta, but he had one each of the past two weeks.
14:37And they weren't his fault. So, I actually like that look.
14:40Evan, do you have anything on Thursday night football with the Browns and the Steelers?
14:45I mean, historically, you can go back and forth with both teams in terms of how they performed.
14:51If I was going to bet the game, I kind of liked Cleveland.
14:56I just thought there was a little bit of value at the 2-1⁄2.
15:00Deshaun's been terrible in the first half, so I think that comes back to the median a little bit.
15:06He's like one of the bottom five quarterbacks, EPA, success rate, first half.
15:11So, I think that just gets a little bit easier, especially after his first home game already.
15:16So, that would be the way I would look at it.
15:20So, Browns are also a classic long teaser piece if you are looking for another teaser piece.
15:25I'll get to the teasers later. But low total, 2-1⁄2 point home dog that you can get up over 8.
15:32But for me, it's Steelers or nothing. Look out for that center position.
15:36It could be a disaster for Cleveland against that Pittsburgh defensive line.
15:40All right, let's move on to our first best bets.
15:44Doug, I'll let you kick things off. You're headed across the pond.
15:47Yeah, I mean, look, there's been some early sharp money on Washington plus 3.5.
15:52And I see a lot of likable things. Now, last week's game, I'm not completely overreacting because statistically, Seattle was right there in many ways.
16:00But Daniel Jones, historically, not good as a favorite.
16:039-14 against the spread. Much better in the underdog role.
16:07But Marcus Mariota, the underlying stats with him have actually been quite impressive.
16:11So, I think, obviously, they faced a really good team.
16:14And the game was weird with turnovers. But they were excellent against the run, by the way.
16:20They were excellent against the run this year. They have been, I should say.
16:24And Jaden Daniels is traveling with the team. Would it be completely crazy if he played?
16:30What do you think, Stock? I don't think he's going to play.
16:34But I guess there's some upside there. Yeah. But I also think I've continued to think that the market thinks that the
16:41gap between Daniels and Mariota is wider than I have it.
16:45I mean, Mariota, for my money, is the best backup in the league.
16:49And yeah, you're right. I mean, the Seahawks dominated that box score.
16:53But bottom line, I mean, even if you take away the pick six, they put up 26 points against the Seattle defense.
17:00It doesn't give up anything to anybody. And Mariota threw three touchdowns, no interceptions.
17:05So, yeah, I get that they were outgained 6.8 to 4 yards per play.
17:09But you have to be impressed with what Mariota did to that defense, which almost no one has done over the last year except like Stafford.
17:18Right. And it's 3.5. I think it closes 3.
17:21So, I think there's going to be line value.
17:24It's not going to 4. And the commanders have the 25% stuff rate, which is the best of the NFL.
17:31And they're allowing 3.8 yards per carry on the ground and zero rushing touchdowns.
17:35So, I've been pretty impressed. I thought this was a horrible defense that the Eagles struggled against.
17:41Well, maybe it's not because they faced Saquon. But, yeah, Mariota's been great.
17:45And you're getting 3.5. And the Colts, they've had – it's a tough stretch of games they've had.
17:51So, you know, I always kind of think about this is the time of year, and we'll talk about the Raiders.
17:58But, like, what's left in the tank after these big games?
18:02Now, Washington's coming off a big game, obviously. But I'll gladly take the 3.5 with Washington because I think they can win outright.
18:09Yeah, I have no real feel. I mean, the Washington run defense has been good.
18:14They're blitzing a ton. So, Flores Disciple is their new defensive coordinator.
18:18And a lot of times what Flores does is he blitzes what people don't truly understand.
18:23It's like early downs. Flores is blitzing a lot to stop the run, to clog up.
18:29Not only are you getting after the passer on passing downs, but to clog up gaps on running downs.
18:35And I think that has been part of the reason why Washington's run defense has been effective.
18:41This year, it's been much better than I had anticipated, especially right off the bat.
18:45So, if you can slow down Jonathan Taylor, this Colts passing attack is still pretty limited without Alec Pierce.
18:52And you can look at Indy's schedule one of two ways.
18:55Yeah, they've had a brutal stretch. But maybe they're a little better than we might think because they face Baltimore, Kansas City, and Houston.
19:03So, that's as hard as it gets for your first three weeks.
19:07A lot of this will come down to travel, how the teams handle going overseas, the early kick.
19:13Historically, I think favorites have done pretty well in these international games.
19:17Evan, do you have anything on that? Yeah, they've crushed internationally.
19:21But it's like 41 and then 17. I can pull it up right now.
19:25But straight up ATS, they've done incredibly well. And especially favorites over the hook as well.
19:31Got it. So, yeah, nothing for me there. But I don't blame you for taking the hook with Washington.
19:37But that's a pass. I won't have anything on the international game to get things started early in the morning.
19:44But for my favorite bet of the week, I am going.
19:47Let me check the updated odds here. Yep, still 2.5.
19:51I'm going with the Houston Texans minus 2.5 at home against the Dallas Cowboys.
19:55Right off the bat, for starters, I like the situational spot.
19:59Texans desperate for a win. 0-3 at home facing a Cowboys team.
20:03Hitting the road after a Brazil game following a devastating loss.
20:06And Houston, I mean, they've played the Bills, Bengals, and a road game at the Colts.
20:12And they could have won all three games. I mean, they were an interception away.
20:17A wide open interception by Lasseter that he dropped from beating the Bills.
20:21Everyone's darling in week one at home with Nico Collins, who should be back this week.
20:26This is a completely different offense with Nico Collins on the field.
20:30I mean, you can look at the numbers all the way down the board.
20:35You could go all the way down. You could go to the rushing offense.
20:39They're averaging one yard more per carry with Nico Collins on the field because of the respect that he garners.
20:46So the running game should be more effective here.
20:49And this Dallas defense, not only are they bad, they're dead last in EPA per play.
20:54They're now completely decimated by injuries, especially in the secondary.
20:58So I think Houston can get its run game going.
21:01Nico Collins can take advantage of this secondary. Stroud should have time to throw.
21:06Dallas has been running a lot of single high.
21:08Stroud and Collins historically have absolutely shredded single high.
21:11Now the Texans linebacker injuries are a bit of concern.
21:15Like they've had, I mean, they've had like four or five linebacker injuries.
21:19I don't think Al Shayer is going to play.
21:22There's a chance you could have two rookies out there at the second level, which is a bit concerning.
21:28But this is still an elite dominant defense. Arguably the best trio of corners in the league.
21:34Arguably the best edge rush duo in the league.
21:37I think they can take advantage of Dallas's tackles here.
21:40Get after Dak, create some negative plays, force some turnovers.
21:44And I just don't see Dallas providing much resistance.
21:46Assuming Nico Collins is back and he practiced today.
21:49That is my assumption. So I like the Texans here to get it done.
21:54Anything under a field goal, even minus two and a half juice, minus 115, minus 120 is fine.
22:00For what it's worth, 0-3 teams in week four versus teams with at least one win.
22:0547-25-1 against the spread since 2005, 65%. And if you just look since 2015, 24-9-1, 73%.
22:11I think the Texans get off the schneid here.
22:14Pretty crazy to think with these two teams, you could either have Dallas dropping to 1-3.
22:19Or Houston dropping to 0-4. Which would pretty much, I mean, based on history, pretty much eliminate.
22:24This is a playoff game for Houston, in my opinion.
22:28I think the only two teams over the past, since 2000, that have made the playoffs after an 0-3 start, they're both Texans.
22:35Both Texans teams. One of them was last year with Houston.
22:39But I think the Texans get it done. Too many injuries on the Dallas secondary.
22:44Nico Collins back puts this over the top for me.
22:47Two and a half still out there. Give me Houston.
22:51I, at a quick glance, I liked Dallas, but then I thought about it more.
22:55And, you know, the reason I liked the Colts against the Texans last week was I thought there was a coaching edge.
23:03And D'Amico Ryan's, like, punting and all that stuff on fourth and one in positive territory.
23:08I liked Schottenheimer coming into the year, but I think there needs to be some concern here.
23:14Just the botching of the clock management. I thought he made a huge mistake at the end of the first half in
23:21week one by calling that timeout before third down.
23:24Just, it's reckless and it ends up costing you games.
23:27I mean, yes, Dak threw the pick instead of punting on the next play, but that timeout was stupid.
23:33And then how he handled the end of the game situation versus Baltimore.
23:38And you mentioned the travel back from Brazil. I have no desire to back Dallas here, even though I think their offense is good.
23:46And I thought the defense did a really good job, especially, you know, in short yardage situations against Baltimore.
23:52But you mentioned those stats, teams 0-3 and 0-3 ATS, by the way.
23:56But 0-3, just season on the line. And the Texans are unlucky this year.
24:01Second unluckiest by some metrics. Bucks being the unluckiest in terms of the results.
24:06And I know Sharp Group on the over. I will pass that along.
24:10But, yeah, I can't get involved here with Dallas, despite what I originally thought.
24:14But I've, you know, cooler heads have prevailed, so to speak.
24:18Yeah, Dallas right now, pure, pure, pure over team.
24:21You couldn't pay me to... Yeah, the first halves are like 24-2 or something insane to the over in their last, like, 26 games.
24:29There's something ridiculous like that. That's crazy. Yeah, I think Texans get it done.
24:34Just the Dallas defense is not going to provide any resistance.
24:37And the Dallas offense is elite, but the Houston defense is elite.
24:41So I think that they can get a couple of stops here.
24:45You'll get their best effort. And, yeah, I mean, Nico...
24:48I mean, D'Amico Rines continues to underwhelm me with in-game management decisions, strategy.
24:53But Schottenheimer, yeah, he was really bad last week.
24:56You have to run the ball there once at the very end because you either score a touchdown or you run the clock down.
25:04I mean, nothing was worse than Sean Payton. That was the worst.
25:08Yeah, similar. It's fireable. And then Dallas doesn't kick it short.
25:11John McDermott's like, see? Yeah. So I'm going with Houston minus 2.5.
25:15Doug is taking the hook with the Commanders. Evan, where are you looking?
25:19A few things before I start. So, yeah, Cowboys are also 78% of tickets right now.
25:25Biggest public side according to Action. So, you know, nothing can go wrong there.
25:29And then to answer your question from earlier, favorites 42-15-1 straight up, 35-23 ATS international games.
25:35So definitely a good stretch. But it has come back to even in terms of the ATS a little bit.
25:41In terms of the bet I like, it's one of the best games of the week in my opinion.
25:48And it's Denver and the 49ers. I like Denver in this game.
25:52It's a little bit of a weird week. I went through all these matchups.
25:56And every time I got to a side I liked, I looked at the injury report.
26:01And there was something to keep me off. If it's the Carolina corners or actually kind of like the Titans this week.
26:09And then you look like half the offensive line got hurt last week.
26:13There's all sorts of different things that I think this made this week a little bit difficult.
26:19I landed on Denver because San Francisco is literally, it's like walking in front of a buzzsaw.
26:24It's one of the best offensive starts. We've really seen DVOA 3-0 starts.
26:29Like all sorts of different things and measures. You could look for San Francisco and how Purdy's played.
26:34Been really unbelievable. You know, other than the Rams game, I don't think the competition's been fantastic.
26:40And then you look at Denver. I mean, other than what you see with Waddle who's supposedly healthy but in a boot.
26:47Denver is relatively healthy going into this game. And the line just sits there at two and a half.
26:54Three at DraftKings, which is the reason why I landed on the bet.
26:58Because I just think at the current moment, getting the three holds the most value in the best games of the weekend.
27:05And belongs at the top of our rundown. So I think Denver is, and I'll say one more interesting fact from just a betting market standpoint.
27:14Right now, about 59% of tickets on San Francisco.
27:17I assume it will close in that place where San Francisco is the public side.
27:22It's been funny that since the start of 2024, Bo Nix, 20 games where the other teams receiving majority ticket support.
27:29They're 14-6 against the spread. Most profitable quarterback. Every week, people just seem to fade this guy.
27:34I'll take the three on the road and the great defense.
27:38Yeah, I mean, the 40, maybe the Broncos can get the run game going here.
27:43San Francisco can't defend the run. They have so many injuries along the defensive line.
27:48And, Doug, you got a little unlucky last week.
27:51It's just not the same defense without Bosa, who got hurt late in the week.
27:56Right. Shocking another San Francisco injury. But it's just not that they just can't generate pressure without Bosa.
28:02The San Francisco offense, though, has been incredible. 64% dropback success rate.
28:06That's number one in the league by a wide margin.
28:09Number two is Baltimore at 54%. They're 12% higher than the number two team in the league.
28:15Granted, they played the Cardinals, the Dolphins, and then the Rams in Australia.
28:19Jet-lagged Rams. Yeah. So, like, you have to take that with a grain of salt.
28:24And, like, at some point, do all of these injuries catch up to them?
28:28At wide receiver, like, well, is Mike Evans going to be fully healthy?
28:33I think Trent Williams is a go. That's one injury they can never overcome is when Trent Williams is out, the offense falls off a clip.
28:41I think he's going to play, but he's dealing with the stinger.
28:45We don't know. Thursday injury report will tell us more.
28:49But that would be a major loss. One of the things that does worry me about the Broncos, they're having extreme trouble with 12 and 22 personnel.
28:57Tight ends, specifically, passing out of heavy sets. They're really struggling.
29:01They really miss Cooper setting the edge in wide runs, especially from heavy personnel.
29:06So, Shanahan could cook some things up here. But the San Francisco defense, especially without Bosa now, all the injuries along the
29:13defensive line, it's getting a little bit dicey. And now there's just so many injuries at wide receiver.
29:19So, I don't blame you for taking the three.
29:22Nothing there for me. Sharp group. A sharp, respected group took plus three.
29:26That's why there's two and a halves everywhere. I kind of like the two and a half, minus two and a half side.
29:34Just because coming off such a big win is a flat spot.
29:38And the Niners, honestly, it's been a joke schedule.
29:41Like, yeah, they had to go to Australia, but they got the jet lag Rams and they had a bunch of time off after it.
29:49And then they get the Dolphins, not only the Dolphins and Cardinals, but the Dolphins and Cardinals at home.
29:55And then you're at home again. And you're at home again.
29:59They haven't played like a true road game yet, which is absurd.
30:03And they've played two of the worst. Maybe the Rams jet lagged because of their stupid travel.
30:08Like, maybe there are three of the, what, the five worst teams, right?
30:13So, they've looked the part. Now, I think they're catching Denver in the right spot.
30:18And for me, these wide receivers getting hurt, as long as Kittle's healthy.
30:22And to your point, Trent Williams, like, I don't overreact too much.
30:26But yeah, the defense, you know, is susceptible. And if I don't trust the Broncos, really, they've played like three good quarters of football.
30:34So, there's a giant question mark there for me with the Broncos.
30:38So, yeah, the Broncos could easily be 0-3. But they've done what the Broncos did and they just win every close game.
30:45The second half against Jags, you know, that whole thing.
30:48But really, the Jags outplayed them for most of the game.
30:52And then obviously, coming back from 16-0, they looked the part.
30:56And then the pick six, I mean, that's part of football.
30:59But then at the very end, the penalties was crazy.
31:03But honestly, Sean Payton's screwing up the clock management.
31:06I don't think other coaches do that. Like, not running first and second down is literally fireable.
31:11It was like a buck for the left. Yeah, and maybe Davis Webb is starting to get it.
31:17You don't have to do that. Davis Webb and Payton are like figuring out the play calling.
31:23But Knicks is just, he just finds ways to cover and win.
31:27He's just, he's very good late. Like, it's late in games.
31:30It's pretty crazy. This is an ugly one, boys.
31:33Like, there's a lot of reasons to not like it, which is why I think it's kind of sneaky.
31:40And I just think it's, there's just so many voices.
31:43Yeah, so many. One note I will give you, and this is one I just love.
31:48Teams covering by 10 plus points per game on the season, minimum three games.
31:5347 and 72 against the spread over the last 15 years.
31:56Which is just, it's obvious, right? 10 points per game.
32:00It's ridiculous. And it comes back. It's Jags, Raiders, Niners, and Vikings.
32:04Which, interesting enough, I think, you know, probably feel different about a bunch of those teams.
32:09But interesting nonetheless. Let's get to the marquee game of the week between the aforementioned Jacksonville Jaguars and the Cincinnati Bengals.
32:16The Bengals are two and a half point home favorites.
32:19Minus 115 total. Pretty high. 51 and a half.
32:22Doug, you like the Jags here? I do. I think we found a lot about, found out a lot about Cincinnati in the last game.
32:30Also, like, this is kind of a fun stat.
32:33When the Jags win, they actually smoke teams. Eight of Jacksonville's last 10 wins have come by at least two touchdowns.
32:40Six of the eight by 22 or more points.
32:43Cincy's good, obviously. But they may not be as good as we thought the first couple weeks.
32:49That's some of it. I just think this game should be pick them.
32:53And Jacksonville's pretty good. I mean, I think, you know, the spot losing to Denver was a really tough spot.
33:00Otherwise, they've been pretty impressive. And I don't like the rest of the card.
33:04But I think the Jags are going to win.
33:07Yeah, I can't quite get there. I would need a flat three to think about Jacksonville.
33:13The Jags are not the same team. They've been incredible under Liam Cohen at home.
33:18They're just a covering machine. Not the same team away from home.
33:22And I am worried about their defense. Once the turnover regression comes.
33:26And this year, like, look, they beat. Drake May was completely lost.
33:30And Deshaun Watson. Both at home. So I think Burrow will have plenty of opportunities to pick apart this defense.
33:36I do think Jacksonville, though, the over makes sense.
33:39Like, why it's this high. I think Jacksonville will have opportunities to move the ball.
33:44Especially through the air. Now, since he's not blitzing, which is smart.
33:48You don't want to blitz a Liam Cohen offense.
33:51So if their defensive line can get natural pressure on Lawrence and force him into mistakes, then, I think, since he's winning this game.
33:59But what really worries me about Cincinnati, their linebackers still can't cover.
34:03This is like such a conundrum for. I'm so curious to see what Liam Cohen does here.
34:09Because Liam Cohen, you have three really good receivers.
34:12So you can spread out teams. And then you also have Brenton Strange.
34:16And the Jags will do that a lot. Spread teams out.
34:19And why that might make sense is because the Bengals just put their nickel, Jalen Davis, on IR.
34:25Their backup nickel is also on IR. So what are they doing?
34:29They're moving Dax Hill inside to the slot. Well, Dax Hill last year, part of the Cincinnati defensive turnaround was they kicked Dax Hill outside.
34:38And he was much more comfortable. He was one of the highest rated corners, I think, over the past, over the final eight weeks of the year.
34:47Once he moved to the outside and then Jalen Davis, who isn't great, just kind of solidified, was just like an average player in the slot.
34:55But really, part of their defensive resurgence was Dax Hill was thriving on the outside.
35:00Well, now you move Dax Hill back inside. What does that mean?
35:04He's probably better than Jalen Davis, but you're going to have a drop-off on the outside.
35:09And you might get DJ Ivey or maybe the rookie to Cario Davis.
35:14They might split time. So the secondary really could take a hit.
35:18But on the other side of the argument is the Bengals cannot stop 12 personnel.
35:23They can't defend tight ends. It's one of the reasons I loved Pittsburgh last week.
35:27So do the Jags then go, because the Bengals' safeties and linebackers are a mess in coverage, do the Jags, do they
35:35not spread them out as much and test these corners?
35:38And then that way, like, and then just go heavier personnel.
35:42But then Dax Hill might be able to play more on the outside.
35:46Obviously, they're going to mix it up, and I'm curious to see that mix.
35:51But I am very worried about the Cincinnati secondary just because of that trickle-down effect.
35:56And the Jags do have very, very good wide receivers, and they're deep.
36:00And they have lots of – and they can also attack with 12 personnel, where the Bengals last year were the worst
36:07in NFL history, I think allowing 6.6 yards per play.
36:10So there's a lot of ways for Liam Cohen to attack this defense.
36:15So, yeah. I have a stat for you, too.
36:18And I want to get your take on it because this applies definitely like in hockey with the Vegas flu and NBA with certain cities, Atlanta, Toronto.
36:27There's a stat here, and I think it's interesting.
36:30And I think it's going to be interesting to see if there's actually validity to it.
36:35I mean, we won't know until after the fact.
36:38But teams going to Miami – sorry, teams with a road game against Miami on deck.
36:43Okay? 15 and 26 against the spread the last five years.
36:47And I think it's interesting because after this, since he goes to Miami, and then they have a bye week.
36:53So, like, I don't know if the Miami flu really can be a thing in football just because there's such few games and teams.
37:01But I remember the Packers laid an egg in L.A.
37:05against the Rams around Halloween, and Aaron Rodgers called out his team not having the right priorities.
37:10And they might have been undefeated going into that game, I think, too.
37:14I just wonder if there's, like, that element. It's not part of my handicap, but I came across the stat and wanted
37:22to bring it up and get your thoughts about – I mean, they have Miami and then the bye.
37:28Like, you just wonder if they're making social plans and everything ahead of time.
37:33It's possible. There could be something there. I was – I actually – I had a thought on the favorites in the
37:40international games that I just – that I didn't share earlier.
37:44Why would – because, like, why would favorites be so much more successful against the spread?
37:49Well, it's a unique situation, right? So, like, unique prep, unique travel.
37:53The favorites are usually better coached teams, right? Better run organizations.
37:56So, their edge in handling all of that stuff might not be fully quantified in the market.
38:02So, maybe that's why favorites do well. I know the Miami flu, that's a big thing in the NBA, right?
38:09Oh, yeah. Miami, Toronto, Atlanta, New York. Those are the four big ones.
38:13I remember Flip Saunders when I was doing NBA Tonight with him.
38:17You know, there's so much downtime because the show was on at, like, 3 in the morning.
38:23He said Rasheed Wallace came and told him, coach, beginning of the season, these are the four cities.
38:28Don't count on me. And he named them. And then Flip goes, and he was right.
38:34Just totally. But, like, getaway day, I think, in baseball on Thursday, if a team's headed to Miami next or something like that, that's always part of it.
38:43But you don't know. Just because a game goes a certain way doesn't mean that was the single reason.
38:49But there's definitely been some Sunday afternoon tips in Toronto where teams are just completely checked out.
38:55I wonder if Rasheed Wallace's technicals in getting thrown out are correlated with the city.
39:00Trying to get kicked out. The city that he was playing in.
39:04All right. Time for my weekly Ravens filibuster. Let the filibustering begin.
39:08Had minus three last week. We'll count it as a loss because I said minus three and a half.
39:14I bet it again. I mean, Henry getting stopped at the one.
39:18He's not been good in short yardage situations. And the Ravens are supposed to go under center more.
39:24Sneak the ball. No team has ever been stopped three sneaks in a row, three times in a row from the goal line in NFL history.
39:33Just sneak it. Or if you don't want to deal with Lamar, the Chiefs need to do this, too.
39:39The Chiefs got stopped on a fourth and one against the Dolphins.
39:43It almost cost them the cover. Get your tight end to do it.
39:47Just motion your tight end. Push them. It works every time.
39:51When you have Lamar, you don't need to go Wildcat.
39:54Wildcat, you do that when you have a quarterback that's not super fast.
39:58You want a running back with the ball and stuff.
40:02Having Lamar gives you the edge because the defense knows there's the threat of the pass.
40:07Or more of a threat of the pass. I mean, the running back could always throw it.
40:12But going Wildcat... I never have any confidence when they direct snap it to Henry.
40:17Wildcat's kind of dumb in general. But doing it when you have Lamar defeats the whole...
40:23Like, Lamar is the Wildcat. You run Wildcat every day because he's such a good runner.
40:28So why would you go to a different running back taking the shotgun?
40:32Why do shotgun? Like, to your point, just go sneak.
40:36It's all so dumb. Yeah. Ravens 11.5 point favorites at home.
40:39Total 42.5. I don't have any strong opinions on this game, sadly.
40:43I slightly lean to the under, if anything. But just because of the offensive...
40:48I think both offensive lines could struggle. Right? The Ravens have lost...
40:52They lost Tyrell Lindebaum in the offseason. They had three options to replace him.
40:56All three are now potentially out for the year.
40:59One's already out for the year. The next two are out long term.
41:04So Ioane, their rookie, who I've loved. He's nasty.
41:07He's looked really good at guard. He slid over to centers.
41:10They had no centers left. I think they're going to keep him there.
41:15But now you're probably going to have... Andrew Voorhees, maybe, who was really bad.
41:19And then we don't know how... And this is the strength of the Titans' defense, is their interior defensive line.
41:26So could there be some issues there? The Ravens have had lots of pre-snap penalties.
41:31Now their offense has been incredible when they're not shooting themselves in the foot.
41:35But Rodney Stanley, still dealing with an injury. Even John Simpson, a little banged up.
41:40So their offensive line could just be a big mess.
41:44And then the Titans are now potentially... I don't know who they're going with, but they're down to their third string guard.
41:51If it's Antonio Mafi, who they picked up recently from the Raider, he is unplayable.
41:56Arguably, I think the worst guard in the NFL besides the kid down in Miami.
42:01He's unplayable. He will just get... He will get Cam Ward killed.
42:05And I'm out on Cam Ward. I mean, it's just...
42:08It's ugly. It's... That pick that he threw, the nonchalantness, that there's no explosiveness.
42:13Their running game's actually been okay. The pass blocking's actually been better than you might think.
42:18So maybe they can have some success running it on Baltimore.
42:22Maybe there's a little bit of a hangover with the Ravens.
42:25But it's hard for me, unless the offensive line is just a complete disaster, there's snap issues.
42:31It's hard for me to see Lamar not moving the ball with ease against this Titans secondary.
42:36So, yeah, I mean... Slight lean to the under.
42:39I just don't see the Tennessee offense doing much of anything.
42:43I think the number is about right. So no hot take on Ravens, Titans this week.
42:48I do think Ravens are... If you need a Moneyline Parlay piece, if you need an extra one to par with like
42:56a small favorite, they should be good. And I was...
42:59They haven't been good in these spots, right? Do you trust them if you're in Survivor and stuff like that?
43:06But the Titans are just that bad, huh? Yeah.
43:09I mean, the Titans are... They don't do... And their special teams are a disaster.
43:13Everything is bad with this Titans team. The only thing...
43:17Like, their running game has been okay. Their RPO game has been okay.
43:21But they don't even run it. They run it like 8% of the time.
43:26And Cam Ward is just... He's not getting better.
43:29And there's just... There's no pop. The play calling is bad.
43:32There's nothing really to like about this Titans team except their defensive line.
43:37Who's gonna... Their defensive line has to keep them in this game because the Ravens' offensive line is dealing with a lot of injuries.
43:45They're shaking up a number of positions. Like, that's where you would make the case for Tennessee.
43:50But... Like... Even if, like, Tennessee flukes their way up to, like, two school...
43:55Up 14 somehow. Like... Like, Lamar can come back with ease against this defense and this secondary.
44:00So... But I'm not laying 11.5. Um... I'm right on the number.
44:04Uh... I do have a slight lean to the under.
44:08Feels to me like... Uh... I don't know. I'll call it, like, 20...
44:1227... 14-ish. Uh... 27-13-ish. Um... But there's... There's some things just that give me pause with the Ravens with the offensive line.
44:19The travel from Brazil. Um... But, uh... Yeah. So, nothing for me here.
44:23Is that right? Fourth... Fourth string center? Yeah. Well, it's gonna be their guard.
44:28They're moving the rookie guard over. Fourth string? They've lost three centers to injury.
44:33God. For... Basically for the year now. So... Um...
44:36So now you're moving your rookie guard to center.
44:39And he's only had, like, the eight snaps last week.
44:42I think he had maybe, like, 15 at Penn State at center.
44:46So... That's a big unknown. You're going up against a really good defensive line.
44:51Uh... So... And then you're gonna have a really bad guard in there.
44:55Ronnie Stanley's hurt. So, like, this offensive line... Under smart.
44:58Under smart. Under smart. It'll be messy. Favorite betting in the game would be under, but I...
45:04As of right now, I haven't played anything. All right.
45:07Let's get to the grossest betting game of the week.
45:10Mm. Mm. What's that smell? It stinks. What do you mean?
45:14It's trash. The sweet, sweet trash. The trash is a gold mine.
45:18Gold mine. And we're talking... Gold mine. Minnesota against Miami.
45:21The 3-0 Vikings are, at DraftKings, 10.5 point favorites.
45:24Total 38.5. Doug, you like the under here? I mean, I do, and it's just obvious, right?
45:30Minnesota's offense has been terrible, right? How about this stat?
45:33There's a bunch of good stats. Um, 50 teams have started 3-0 in the last decade, okay?
45:39These Vikings rank last offensively in EPA per play of all 50 teams.
45:43Um, obviously fluky on offense, and it's not like...
45:46They're on pace to be outgained by 1,300 yards.
45:49It's not like Kyler Murray instilled any confidence moving forward, so you really want to lay double digits.
45:55The problem is this Miami team is so bad.
45:58They just lost their best player, A'shan, out for the year.
46:02They're 0-3 ATS, too. I mean, the Chiefs game, you know, maybe came down to the rough in the passer, but still.
46:09And they're just not an NFL team, as I've said the last couple weeks.
46:13And we have Flores going against the team he's suing, which has to be a first in NFL history.
46:20And he's going to bring the heat, and this Miami team's kind of tanking, right?
46:25They're not in any rush to improve. I was actually going to pitch to you, like, should we be...
46:31Like, should we just bet them? I mean, how many covers are they going to have this year?
46:37Yeah. Usually four or five is the lowest in a season for the worst ATS team.
46:42I said I'd be happy if I never played the Dolphins this year.
46:46I haven't yet. I did this week. There's 11s out there.
46:50I had to take 11. Did you? Did you have to?
46:54Just kidding. I really... I don't have to. But this Minnesota team...
46:58I'm not teasing. ...is... Because I also think that Jefferson's not playing.
47:02Like, he didn't practice today. You have the Dolphins at home.
47:05Why rush him back? Why risk him? You also have then New Orleans and then a bye.
47:11So you could hold him out for two weeks.
47:14But there's no reason to rush him back this week.
47:17And I don't think that they... And they've... For my numbers, they've been the luckiest team in the league, right?
47:24Like, outgamed by 200 yards against Green Bay. Get a bunch of calls.
47:28The fourth down goes against them. I mean, everything has gone their way.
47:32I mean, penalties, special teams, fourth downs. You name it.
47:36They've gotten every single break. Now, Flores has been incredible.
47:39But, I mean, they played... It's only three games, right?
47:42It's only three games. They played the Packers offense, which is broken.
47:46Like, we saw them against the Falcons at home.
47:49They played the Bucs offense, which is broken. And then they played the Bears in a storm where Caleb got hurt.
47:56And he was about to run in for a touchdown.
47:59They fumble at the one. They miss a chip shot field goal.
48:03So, like, they easily could be 0-3. I mean, they were about to get blown out by the Packers.
48:10If Caleb doesn't get hurt running in, they'd probably lose that game.
48:14And then last week, they had a 21% success rate and won the game.
48:18I mean, that is as low as you'll ever see.
48:22They won that game because of special teams. They get a 90-yard punt return touchdown.
48:27And then they hit... I love their kicker, Reichert.
48:30He hit from 54, 56, and 48. And the defense was incredible.
48:33But, like, it was a coin flip game on a down-to-down basis.
48:37They were even worse than the Bucs. They could be 0-3.
48:41But they're 3-0. And their offense has been statistically the worst in the league.
48:46They have a 32% success rate. 32! And they've played...
48:49They haven't played dominant defenses. They played the Bears, the Bucs, and the Packers.
48:54They have a 32% success rate. That's dead last.
48:57Miami's at 35. Their passing success rate is 33%.
49:00And that's some with Jefferson. That's dead last. Miami's at 38.
49:03So, like, how can this offense lay 11 without Jefferson?
49:07That's my assumption. Now, how's Miami going to move the ball?
49:10It's the Flores' revenge game. I'm petrified of what he's going to cook up here.
49:15This is the first time he's faced Miami since leaving and then the lawsuit.
49:20And Miami does nothing well. A-Chain's hurt. Willis has not been good against the Blitz this year.
49:25He holds the ball too long. They're going to have to just miraculously hit some explosives.
49:31He's going to have to use his legs a ton.
49:34I don't know. I'm not going to... I'm not going to sit here and tell you good things about Miami.
49:41They are the worst team. No, I mean, in my pick of a league, I've taken Miami off.
49:46Miami could get to 10 on, like, a touchdown late.
49:50You know, it's like 20-3. And they get a touchdown, a meaningless garbage touchdown, and they lose by 10.
49:56Because, like, this Minnesota offense is completely broken right now.
49:59And it's going to take time for Murray to...
50:02They can't run the ball. They're just doing nothing well right now.
50:06So, I'm plugging my nose, and I'm taking the 11 with Miami.
50:10It is the... I think the game that I'm dreading the most, and that I will dread the most, out of any game I bet this entire year.
50:19It's in the 4 o'clock window. There's only three games, so I'm going to have to watch a lot of it.
50:26You've got to watch. And it's going to be Miami versus Flores, who's just putting every single quarterback he's facing into a blender.
50:34And now it's Malik Willis without A-chain. So, yeah.
50:37I will say Miami has... Which, it's pretty funny.
50:40Miami is bad. I'm not going to say anything good about them.
50:44But Miami has faced the Raiders, 49ers, and Chiefs, who haven't lost a game.
50:49They're all... Yeah, 9-0. They're all undefeated. Now, part of that is because three of the games were against the Dolphins.
50:55But, yeah. This Minnesota's offense is broken right now.
50:58It's like, there's a world Minnesota wins this game 10-0.
51:02Yeah. I mean, I've been teasing. Like, I've taken Miami two out of three weeks in my pick-em.
51:08So, it's not like I'm like, ah, how could you ever take Miami?
51:12I think the team total is the most fascinating.
51:15First half is 6-1⁄2 for the Finns. Game is 13-1⁄2.
51:18I would be looking at unders in both. Like, I don't know if they score a touchdown in the first half.
51:25If Flores want... If he's out for blood, like we all assume he is, it could be a really defensive-minded first half.
51:32You got anything on this game, Evan? Honestly, this game scares the living crap out of me.
51:38I completely agree with you wholeheartedly. And I want to take Miami very, very bad.
51:43Because in this position, they're just the team that covers.
51:46But again, it's just way too scary to look at all around.
51:50I think, and honestly, the best bet you can make in this game is Malik Willis rushing yards.
51:56Because I think no matter what, he is going to get out of the pocket.
52:01And there has to be something there within that.
52:04I will say this. You got to do a ton of design runs for him, too.
52:09Correct. I will say this. This goes to the offense struggling for Minnesota.
52:14So Vikings averaging 137 passing yards per game. Worst mark in the NFL since 2003.
52:19Teams averaging 150 or less in their fourth game or later.
52:2255 and 83 ATS. 40%. So, I mean, forgetting even the line in the game.
52:27The fact that you've gotten to this point. And now you're laying that much.
52:32I just, you know, I don't know what else to do.
52:36Yeah. I mean, they haven't reached 250 yards in a game yet.
52:40Yeah. Baker had 42 yards rushing of their three opponents.
52:43He's the only one that really did anything. So 42 yards.
52:46That's pretty good. So there's a path for Willis there.
52:50Yeah. I mean, look, Minnesota's going to blitz a ton.
52:53So, like, the path for Miami to score is, you know, you pop an explosive.
52:58Like, you just, someone gets behind the defense. There's, so that's what Miami's going to have to do here.
53:04I have, like, some principles in the NFL where, like, my main principle, I want to buy low and sell high.
53:11And this fits everything. Like, Minnesota's 3-0, luckiest team in the league.
53:15Their offense is broken. Now laying double digits. Miami is 0-3.
53:19Straight up 0-3 against the spread. And I have to take it.
53:23So wish me luck. Godspeed to anyone following along.
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57:56If the Dolphins don't cover this week, I won't promise I won't bet them on my own, but I will not bring
58:03them up as a bet on this podcast the rest of the year.
58:07This is the spot they have to cover. If they don't cover this week...
58:12Well, last week, too. I mean, last week was...
58:15But they could have. They were... They were right there.
58:18They were right there. I mean, look, with the roughing the pass, there was a defensive holding, too.
58:24But, like, they threw a pick on fourth down at midfield, and then the Chiefs had a short field and then scored a touchdown at the end.
58:33Like, they easily could have covered that game. It was 7-7, right?
58:37Like, early on, it was fun? Yeah. And the Chiefs' offense right now is worlds ahead of the Minnesota offense.
58:43Oh, yeah, worlds, yeah. Let's pick up the pace.
58:46Hurry this up, please. Just wanted to make it more exciting.
58:50And don't leave out anything. Hurry up, offense. Let's get to a couple games quickly.
58:55Rams, Eagles, Rams, three-point favorite at Philly. Looks like Puka Nakua is going to go.
59:00So, that's obviously important because he's one of the best receivers in the NFL.
59:05We'll see how healthy he is if he is a full-full go.
59:09But looks like he will play at three with Puka in.
59:12It's also important because they have a ton of injuries at tight ends.
59:16So, like, without Puka, the flexibility that McVay would have had, you know, with using all of his tight ends would have been a little bit more difficult.
59:26But right now, there is nothing... And, by the way, McVay has always traveled well.
59:31Sands, Australia. But traveled really well to the East Coast.
59:34There's nothing to really like about this Eagles team right now.
59:38Another new offensive coordinator. The offense isn't working. The interior offensive line is a mess.
59:43They can't run block. There's pass protection issues. I don't get how they're using Makai Lemon.
59:48There's no Dallas Goddard. The offense is ugly. I mean, they could only score seven points and barely by one second against the Bears defense.
59:56This is a team that needed a last second drive against Tennessee.
60:00Tennessee. And, look, they've played Tennessee, Chicago, and Washington.
60:03We're not talking about a murderer's row of defenses.
60:06And the offense looks completely broken. And, most surprisingly, it's the defense that's struggling.
60:11They're not getting pressure. The safety play has been poor.
60:14There's Jalen Carter's having a rough year. There's issues on the defense.
60:18I think Fangio is going to get it figured out.
60:21But, right now, that defense, that tackling is an issue.
60:25So, Eagles also on a short week here. I think Rams at three.
60:29I know it goes against the spot as Philly, right?
60:32Like, oh, they just look so bad. But, I think Rams are going to be focused here after that win that pretty much got stolen from them.
60:41And, they want revenge from a game that they completely blew last year.
60:45One of the worst beats I've ever had. I had Rams plus three and a half.
60:51It was the worst beat of the season. Yes.
60:54That arguably, that cost them the one seed and then maybe the Super Bowl.
60:58So, yeah. There's just nothing to really like about Philly right now.
61:02So, at three, it's Rams or nothing for me.
61:05Yeah. Typically, you want to back the teams that looked terrible the previous week, all that.
61:10And, the Rams, it is back-to-back road games, third and four weeks, right?
61:15That is a good point. Like, they've gone from Australia to home to Denver altitude.
61:20Now, out to the East Coast. And, it's like an older team.
61:24What is that? What is the residual impact? But, I just can't get there with Philly.
61:29Because, I mean, I faded Philly last week. They were fat and happy 2-0 but didn't look the part right.
61:36It's crazy. It was a Monday night game. They still were kind of flat, not up for the game.
61:42The score is a little misleading because they had the red rifle in the red zone in the first half.
61:48Instead of, you know, they probably would have at least had three points.
61:53But, still, they just weren't. The defense was flat.
61:56Ben Johnson just outcoached them. And, the defense outcoached whatever, the offense too.
62:00But, the Rams, I think this is a game.
62:03Like, I would definitely be fading the Rams if they were 2-1 or something like that off a big win in Denver.
62:10But, I think here, I think this is like galvanizing game.
62:14I think they take care of it. And, the way that they lost in Philly last year.
62:19Yeah, the block field goal scoop and score. I think this is, I think it's a good, I just, Philly's been shaky
62:27for a while the last few years. They've had good, and I don't know if I'm sold on Sean Mannion as their offensive coordinator.
62:35He's a brand new play caller. I think the skepticism is totally fair.
62:39Now, I had it for Baltimore's, but they've looked good, right?
62:43Philly hasn't offensively. So, I think there's just kind of a hot mess and fans are on tilt a little bit.
62:49But, I think it's, for me, it's Rams or pass.
62:53Bills, Patriots. Bills, a 6.5 point home favorite. Total, 48.5.
62:56This is another one. Buy low, sell high. Pats are the spot.
63:00I just, I can't get there right now. Look, the Bills defense is a mess.
63:05There are issues all over. But, their offense is a machine.
63:09Is Barmore, the Patriots have a lot of injuries on the offensive line.
63:13Barmore's banged up. And, like, just the running, like, we could talk about Drake May.
63:18The running games. The Pats have a 28% rush success rate.
63:22That's dead last in the NFL. The Bills are 52.5%.
63:25That's first. And then, let's look at the quarterbacks.
63:28Josh Allen, one of the best in the NFL.
63:31He's been incredible. Drake May is completely lost. He has no confidence.
63:35His foot works off. He can't even grip the ball and throw it forward now.
63:40He's broken. Like, until I see a competent game from him again, like, that throw at the end of the first half,
63:47that is the throw that, like, Will Levis makes.
63:50I can't back the Pats, even though, like, I mean, at 7, I would, like, I would think about it.
63:57But, there's something so off with him. And I don't think that the Patriots, you're not going to slow down.
64:03I mean, look, the Bills turned it over five times at a negative four turnover margin and covered seven and a half last week, which is pretty amazing.
64:12They obviously had an off game. There's also, is Josh Allen fully healthy?
64:17He might be a little banged up. That adds some uncertainty here.
64:21So, this looks like a pass. Like, I want to back the Pats, like my Bilo saw.
64:26But Drake May is lost. Like, I can't back him right now.
64:30I think it has to be the Bills. I mean, all the signs are in front of us, right?
64:36To your point, obviously the spot, you know, Bilo, all that.
64:40But, we have the Super Bowl hangover. That is a thing.
64:44Second straight road game for New England. Third in four weeks.
64:47That could be wearing, you know, it's not a huge road trip, but it's a factor.
64:53Drake May has looked pathetic. And it's definitely shocking how bad he's looked.
64:57But we all knew the schedule was shaky last year.
65:00So, some of the development or whatever was a little misleading.
65:04I mean, they even got to face the AFC Championship game team without their quarterback.
65:09It's crazy how many things broke their way. But the Bills defense is ridiculous.
65:13They shouldn't have covered last week. So fortunate in so many ways.
65:17I'm going to have to lay it. I mean, and by the way, yes, Allen's banged up.
65:23But he's a TD vulture in a lot of ways.
65:26Like, his anytime touchdowns, minus 115. Shouldn't it be minus $2 every week?
65:31Yeah, I mean, he's like perks anytime he gets near.
65:34And you know where he's going on the sneak and he's scoring.
65:38115 is cheap. Yeah, I just can't backtrack May right now.
65:42He's like a baseball player with the yips right now.
65:45Right, right. Or Knoblock. Yeah, Knoblock at second or something.
65:48They won this game last year, but they snuck up on Buffalo.
65:52I don't think they're going to sneak up on him, even though Buffalo's undefeated and looking good.
65:58Cardinals giants. Cardinals taking a ton of money. Wow.
66:01Now, opened as a dog. Now out to a two and a half point favor.
66:06Total 44 and a half. I liked it. I was thinking about the Cardinals initially.
66:11Brian Burns now out for the Giants. Jameis has looked terrible.
66:14There's a reason they went and got J.J. McCarthy.
66:17Yeesh. Cardinals defense is terrible. Can I lay two and a half on the road with the Cardinals?
66:23Second straight road game across the country with that defense.
66:26Defense, probably not. I'll have a little bit more on this game later.
66:31Do you like anything with the total here? Yeah, I do.
66:34I like the over. I know Sharp Group that models it likes the over for the same reasons probably the Arizona monies come in.
66:42I mean, their offenses looked pretty crisp, all things considered, through this early part of the season.
66:48And I also think it's tough to evaluate the Giants, right?
66:52I mean, they had the rain game versus Tennessee.
66:55Also, first drive against the Rams, they lose dart.
66:58And that game, they sort of punted on, all things considered, given the situation after losing dart.
67:03They were like, on the run, like, all right, let's just run the ball a lot.
67:08I think we could see fireworks in this game in a lot of ways because Jameis is going to go.
67:15It's not going to be McCarthy. And Arizona's, you know, I've talked about it a bunch.
67:20I mean, it's sort of getting old to say, but like their floor is pretty high with Brissette.
67:26They have a lot of weapons. Yeah, and the Giants aren't getting, like this pass rush, they only had three pressures on Cam Ward last week.
67:35And now there's no Brian Burns, like he's your best pass rusher.
67:39And the secondary is banged up and it's not good.
67:42And they're not going to just run the ball a million times like they did in the rain with Skaddebo.
67:49I mean, there's just, they're going to have to keep pace with Arizona because I think Arizona's offense is really solid.
67:56And yes, it's all those road trips, but it's early enough in the season.
68:00I think, I think we're gonna see a lot of points.
68:04Yeah. Evan, this line move, what, close to 10 points from the look ahead?
68:09Yeah. The look ahead was seven for the Giants.
68:11I mean, that's with Dart and Burns and like the whole squad out there.
68:16Yeah. And now Arizona minus two and a half.
68:19Uh, and it's honestly going up. Yeah. It's crazy.
68:22But sharp, sharp money has come in on it.
68:25I mean, like real money has come in on Arizona just to communicate that to our audience.
68:31Yeah. Uh, Chiefs Raiders, a battle of undefeateds. Who would have guessed?
68:35The Raiders, the Raiders are a four and a half point home dog.
68:39Total 47 and a half. I mean, this Raiders team is so much better and it starts with the staff.
68:46They might've found a really good one in Leonard, this new defensive coordinator.
68:50We know about Kubiak. The, the jump from last year's staff to this is astronomical.
68:55And you now have a functioning offensive line because you went out and got Linderbaum.
69:00Colton Miller is now healthy. Uh, so it is a completely different team than last year.
69:05And there's just actual real professionalism and actual real coaching on both sides of the ball.
69:10They found some, looks like some potential steals in the draft as well.
69:15I love trading Stukes. I didn't think he would take the job from Palomar this early, but Palomar was terrible.
69:21And he has right off the bat as a rookie.
69:24Uh, Massis, the corner from Cal, one of the many DBs that, uh, uh, what's his name?
69:30Uh, who was the ex Cal coach that got fired?
69:33Uh, oh my God. How can I not think of his name?
69:37Uh, uh, uh, QB coat, the QB guy. No, I, uh, Justin, what the hell was his name?
69:43Wilcox. Justin Wilcox. Many. He's put so many DBs in the league, but they might've found two really good ones in the secondary.
69:51Now starting as rookies. Massis has like a three or four interceptions already.
69:55They're linebacker signings. Dean and Walker pay. They're all playing well.
69:59Crosby is playing like a man possessed. Their other defensive linemen are playing well.
70:03They've been good against the run. Uh, and then Kirk cousins is playing well.
70:08And Brock Bowers is a cheat code. I mean, he's, he's the best unguardable.
70:13Chiefs also offenses improving, right? My home is getting more comfortable.
70:16Their secondary has also been very good. Noel Williams has been good.
70:20Mansoor Delane has been very good as a corner right off the bat as a rookie, which they needed.
70:27Uh, so they've been pretty damn good. And we've seen the impact of Kenneth Walker and what he's done for a run game.
70:34That's been non-existent for years. Now I will say these two teams are three and O.
70:39I think both are a little bit overrated, right?
70:42Like the chiefs played the dolphins. They went to overtime and beat the Colts at home.
70:48And you know, Alec Pierce got hurt early. And then the Broncos just didn't want to tackle them.
70:54They had like 300 yards after missed tackles in week one.
70:57And then the same thing with the Raiders. I mean, the Raiders also played the dolphins.
71:03They played the broken chargers. And then against the saints last week, they get a bunch of turnover luck outscoring 13, nothing
71:10the fourth quarter, uh, in what was, you know, a dead even game.
71:14I mean, they got outgained by 40 yards, but, uh, it was a pretty dead even game.
71:20They had some turnover luck. So I think both teams are a little bit overrated, but they're playing each other.
71:26Uh, I'm looking forward to just enjoying this one, watching it.
71:30The nice to watch a Raiders game with a ton of excitement, like undefeated playing the chiefs.
71:36I got nothing here. I'm right on market. Uh, Doug, anything on, uh, the Raiders?
71:41Your Raiders. That was close. And it's a buy, it's a sell high spot for the Raiders, right?
71:46Like obvious, but they might be that much improved because of the coaching staff and all the things you mentioned.
71:53I still probably going to bet the chiefs when it's all said and done.
71:58This almost made my cut. Um, I just, it's a lot of points for it.
72:03Honestly, like the Raiders could win outright, right? It's not that crazy.
72:07Just given what we've seen the first three weeks, but typically this is a spot and for what it's worth now, it's
72:14against different coaching staffs, different teams, but my homes has always played the Raiders well in Vegas.
72:20Here's a good stat. And I don't know if Evan has others, but when a team's heading into the buy and they're playing within the division, right?
72:28Divisional opponent and the, obviously the opponent not going to buy, right?
72:32So the chiefs are into the buy Raiders or not, uh, 58, 25 and one since 2013.
72:38So, I mean, the narrative, the chiefs like going into the buy, like facing a division opponent.
72:44So let's like, all right, let's take care of our business before our buy, you know, whatever.
72:49Um, that's the narrative if you believe in some of these trends, but I think it's, I think it's a good spot to back the chiefs.
72:58And I also was talking about it earlier, just like how much is in the gas tank for the Raiders.
73:04They've had a couple of big games in a row.
73:08Chiefs kind of went through the motions last week.
73:11I think it's a good bet, bet on spot for the chiefs.
73:15Evan, do you have anything on that? Endor three, you know, teams playing each other.
73:20Uh, well, to Doug's point, uh, when a team, I do 12 days in terms of like buy, cause usually 11 isn't.
73:27So a team has 12 days coming up last decade, 59% straight up 58% against the spread, almost 300 games.
73:33So yeah, uh, teams with rest coming up, definitely intriguing.
73:37And I was looking at that last year and yeah, this one's super intriguing to undefeated teams, straight up playing week four
73:44later, home team has been good 26 and 16 straight up.
73:48Uh, and this is just the second of these games since 21.
73:52We had bucks Eagles in this spot last year.
73:55All right. Charger Seahawks, Seahawks seven point favor minus one 15 total 42 and a half chargers.
74:00I mean, they, I don't know how they didn't cover.
74:04I ended up betting them at seven and a half last week, a brutal loss.
74:08Like Dicker can't even, they can do everything wrong.
74:11Dicker can't even make a kick now. And then Harbaugh, why are you going for it on fourth and 10 down one
74:19score with all the timeouts, five minutes to go against an offense that was turning it over a constant, like unbelievable decision,
74:26uh, that obviously costs them the cover, but like not covering as a seven and a half point dog with a plus four turnover margin.
74:34How rare is that Evan? Well, the not cover, it was like, Oh, in one Oh eight with a five plus turnovers and four margin.
74:43Just the ridiculous Seahawks will be angry here after a loss where they should have won.
74:48But I mean, you know, McDonald's going to be pissed after giving up 30 plus points to Mariotta and the Washington offense.
74:55Can you bet the chargers? They fit a ton of trends.
74:59Oh, and three straight up. Oh, and three against the spread now going across the country at the plan.
75:05And the bills playing Seattle. Can you do it?
75:08Doug? Yes or no. So I like Seattle here.
75:11Um, you're asking about the coaching. It just shows you that some of these coaches are so clueless that they're just doing,
75:18they do stuff recklessly because they think it's analytics.
75:21I mean, even hear it from some announcers. Well, analytics says do this.
75:25They're just making that. You know, they don't, they don't really know what they're talking about.
75:31Um, and hardball, you know, some of these guys who are coaches sons, like learn so much from their dads, but when
75:38the game was obviously different, so they just haven't evolved and they're just so brain dead at times.
75:44Now I think our boss still a great coach, obviously his track record speaks for itself.
75:49I just think they put so much into that game.
75:53I think their season was on the line last week and Seattle, like they have some trouble, like their, their, their execution
76:00running the ball has not been great with Jadarian price, but how about this last week?
76:05They had an 86 percentile offensive success rate, 89th percent defensive success rate.
76:09Uh, and, but they lost only, only game a team lost when clearing 85, uh, on both sides of the ball since 2022.
76:17Wow. It was a fluky. Now, you know, you don't, you can win and not cover too.
76:23So it's not just, you know, we're, we're asking them to win by margin, all things considered, but I, I still believe
76:30in Seattle and McDonald for that matter. And I have not been impressed with the chargers at all.
76:36I wasn't, I was pretty impressed last week though, all things considered, but that was a bad non-cover.
76:42You like Jadarian price unders here. I mean, he has a fumbling problem, right?
76:46And I don't think the carries are going to be there.
76:50And we started to see that he was pulled last week against.
76:54Washington. And I mean, sometimes coaches don't just come out and explicitly say it.
76:59And if you look at the box score and I'm just calling it up right now, I mean, he got five carries
77:06for 15 yards and then Emmanuel Wilson had nine for 14.
77:09Now they were trailing a lot in the second half and the game script would suggest that's not going to be the
77:17case, but, and it was weather obviously in, in Washington last week, but I would be betting as under carries.
77:23And right now you can bet as under yards and you know, I think you just got to anticipate versus react and all this stuff.
77:32We're always trying to anticipate, not react. You can't just react to what you last saw.
77:37I think we should be reacting to reduced workload here.
77:40Yeah. At seven and a half, I'd have to think about the Chargers, but I mean, I might just toss this game out the window.
77:48I mean, I make it under seven. Their offensive line is going to get destroyed.
77:53They're not going to be able to run the ball.
77:57The defense has injuries. The defensive line is really good against Buffalo, really good Buffalo offensive line.
78:02That's who has to win in this game. They got to force Darnold into mistakes, which he will do.
78:09He will make mistakes. And then the Chargers are wide receivers catch some balls.
78:13They also cover if Quentin Johnson catches that wide open pass on third down and they don't have to go for it on fourth down.
78:21The Chargers are doing everything wrong. That's what Johnson does though.
78:25Johnson does drop. I mean, that's, that's, that's customary.
78:28It wasn't an outlier pass. No, you're right. I mean, I could point to 7 million trends that say the Chargers are the play.
78:36I know Evan could as well. Evan, are you holding your nose to the Chargers or no, no chance?
78:42I think you have to, but it wasn't going to be my favorite pick.
78:47Also road trip in Seattle is just brutal. One in 10 since 23, 12 and 43.
78:52And that's just to win. So, and to me, it's just, it's too difficult.
78:57Buffalo to Seattle. Brutal. But it's not like the Chargers have every, every game's a road game.
79:02For the Chargers. All right, let's get Sunday Night Football.
79:06Lions, Panthers. Lions, three and a half point road favorite.
79:09I mean, on the surface, that number, I'm like, how can the Lions be a three and a half point road favorite?
79:16Well, it makes a ton of sense when you look at the injuries for Carolina.
79:21Now there might be some weather. Maybe golf will turn into a pumpkin.
79:26There's some rain outdoors. But the Panthers have cluster injuries at receiver.
79:30Injuries along the offensive line. Now Damian Lewis is out.
79:33Their tackles are already out. They have like Freeling's also dealing with an injury.
79:37But more importantly, Mike Jackson, starting corner. IR. JC Horn, starting corner.
79:41IR. Their secondary is in shambles. And now you're going, and it's not a defense that gets a ton of pressure going up against this Detroit offense.
79:50There should be a ton of points in this game.
79:54Hence why you see, I mean, the Panthers are playing really fast or throwing at a time.
79:59But the injuries at wide receiver make that a little dicey.
80:03But like seeing a Panthers outdoor total this high is pretty crazy.
80:07But I can't pay the Panthers because of all the injuries.
80:10Like their secondary right now is horrendous. But total 51 and a half.
80:15At three and a half, I actually lean Detroit.
80:18Like I don't see all this Carolina defense is going to get any stops against a competent offense because their secondary is now in shambles.
80:26You got anything here, Doug? Yeah. I mean, betting on home underdogs going into their buy has been very profitable over the
80:33years since 2015, which is over a decade. 39, 24, and three ATS.
80:38But I can't get there. You mentioned the injuries.
80:41But the Lions, I actually, I mean, I don't know.
80:44The Lions defense. It's hard to lay over a field goal with a team whose defense is horrific.
80:50I like the second worst in EPA per play.
80:53They have their own injuries in their secondary. It's basically they're like, do they get a sack?
80:58Yes. If not, first down. Like it's the defense is really bad.
81:02But maybe like a Lions team total over. Like the Lions should absolutely shred defense.
81:07Like the losing Horn and Jackson is with a team that can't get pressure.
81:12Right. And a team that also plays very complex coverages.
81:15You might think that, oh, it's just cover three.
81:18But they disguise a lot. And like they rely on their corners to know all the changes.
81:24They might, they're just probably going to have to go super vanilla here.
81:28And they're not going to get pressure. And they have like a rookie CB1 now.
81:33And then there's no town on the outside against these Lions receivers and Gibbs and Laporta.
81:38And like, I don't see them getting any stops.
81:41Team total. A Lions team total over, I think is where.
81:45I like it. I think that's a smart call.
81:48Falcons-Saints Monday night. Should get an electric atmosphere here.
81:51This is the Katrina anniversary game. Falcons going from, you know, Lambeau opening home opener to this game.
81:57A pretty brutal draw early on. Saints two and a half point favorite.
82:01Approaching three. Total 47 and a half. Saints to me are a pure over team.
82:06They just play so fast. Their defense can't stop the run.
82:10Uh, which is what the Falcons could take advantage of here.
82:13So on a fast track, I think over makes some sense at under 48.
82:18I think the Falcons are a good teaser piece.
82:21Um, I think this will be a competitive game.
82:24I don't have a ton here. I will say the Saints are dead last in rush success rate on defense.
82:30So Bijon, feed Bijon, set up the play action.
82:33Easy throws for Penix. And the Falcons, like their, their offense number one in pressure rate allowed.
82:39Defense number one in pressure rate. Even with all their injuries.
82:43Olbrook still finding a way to generate pressure. Uh, but the, the Saints will find ways to move the ball on this Atlanta defense.
82:51So, uh, I think this will be higher scoring.
82:54Falcons at three, I think makes some sense. Falcons is a teaser piece.
82:58Uh, I'm looking for a teaser piece. I think my teaser, it's not a great teaser week.
83:04Always tease, tease, tease. I'll get this out of the way now.
83:07I think the best teaser I could offer. Giants, now that it's a two and a half.
83:13Low total. Get them over eight and a half at home.
83:17Against a bad defense. Uh, and then the Falcons.
83:20A little higher total. But, uh, getting them up over eight.
83:23Uh, I think makes some sense. Not a great teaser week though.
83:27Not one of my favorites. You got anything on Monday Night Football, Doug?
83:32I think it's just worth noting. It's not a short week for Atlanta.
83:36Just, I mean, not noting, but reminding everyone. It's not a short week.
83:40Um, Atlanta run defense has been great. By the metrics.
83:43You mean Atlanta? Yeah, they last played on Thursday.
83:46So they have extra. Past defense, not good. So I think Olave could go off.
83:51One of those things. Vele could go off. Um, I don't know.
83:55I mean, I know a group that bet the minus two and a half.
84:00But Atlanta, obviously with Penix, very different. So it's almost like you throw out the offensive stats from the first two weeks.
84:07You just kind of have to. But they played a Packers defense that just was not ready.
84:13So I think the verdict's still out on Atlanta.
84:16This will be a very emotional game. But something to consider.
84:19You know, we always think that teams are going to play a certain way if it's a significant game.
84:26Um, like sometimes players going back to their hometown or whatever.
84:29Sometimes it like, the pressure gets the guy. You know, sometimes it's too much.
84:34So yes, I think it's New Orleans minus points because of the 20th anniversary of the Steve Gleason game.
84:40But with that being said, there's an element where they're, you know, over.
84:45Yeah, you come out. You come a little too jacked up, right?
84:49Um, I think so. I think so. And the Saints always start slow, though.
84:53So maybe, uh, there's only... It's crazy. It's really crazy.
84:56It's crazy. So, uh, yeah, I think at three I would lean Atlanta.
85:01But I'll have that game written up on ActionNetwork.com.
85:04And then finally, our Moneyline Underdog Parlay. We hit this last week.
85:08We have the Steelers and the Colts. We should have hit it.
85:12They ate the one the week before. But the Jets somehow blew the game to the Packers in overtime.
85:18Turning good weekends into great weekends. It's time for the Moneyline Parlay.
85:22Hey. Doug, this week, you're going with the Jags, which we already talked about.
85:27I'm going with the Bucs. Just some variance here with Jalen Daniels.
85:30I mean, Baker Mayfield's been the worst starting quarterback in the NFL this year by a lot of metrics if you remove backups, right?
85:38Like Winston and Cooper Rush, who's been obviously the worst.
85:42He's not been good. So, like, how much worse can it get?
85:46At least you have Daniels' legs. There's some uncertainty here with, like, the Packers don't know what it's going to look like.
85:53Now, to tell you about Daniels, he's very athletic.
85:56He's got a ton of talent. Now, he's very raw.
85:59He struggles to read defenses, especially zones of time.
86:02You're going to get a ton of zone from Green Bay here.
86:06You know, Florida home game early in the year, which I like.
86:10Tampa's been very unlucky. The unluckiest team in the league.
86:13Just, I think Daniels, for one game, can provide a spark.
86:17This is a team that needs a spark. And with the state of this offensive line, he needs to use his legs.
86:24And so, I think with some variance. And this is, the Packers are bad right now.
86:30They cannot, their pass block win rate, they're signing, like, 37-year-olds off the streets to come try to play offensive line.
86:37I don't know what kind of game shape Zyler's going to be in.
86:41But they cannot pass protect. They can't run the ball at all.
86:45And you can't run on Tampa. And then Tampa's going to blitz.
86:49Now, Love has been good against the blitz in his career.
86:52But that's when he's had some semblance of an offensive line.
86:56So, they're just going to be in passing downs all the time.
87:00And I think Bowles will bring the pressure. They're going to get to Love.
87:05He might make some mistakes. And then you just have the uncertainty with Daniels.
87:09This Packers team is just broken right now. It all starts with the offensive line.
87:14And then, obviously, there's no Jacobs. You have Reed Hurt.
87:17So, I like the Bucs with the points. Now, there's a lot of uncertainty.
87:22So, I think it really makes sense with a, as a Moneyline underdog piece.
87:27Give me Jalen Daniels and the Tampa Bay Bucs.
87:30Bucs, Jags, Little Florida. I guess it's going to be October.
87:33Little early October, Florida. So, are you undeterred by the 12 straight ATS losses?
87:38That's with Baker. We have no more Baker now.
87:41So, this is a new day. A new era in Tampa football.
87:45It's fascinating. I mean, they've got to be regretting that contract right now.
87:49I did a deep dive into that 83-84. So, with the help of Evan, it started the last week of 1983 when Oliver Luck was the quarterback.
87:58And then, the following year, it was like ATS lost two.
88:02So, week one was the second straight loss. And it was all Warren Moon.
88:06Hmm. Interesting. So, Archie was mid-season. He was early in the 83 season.
88:11So, he wasn't part of the ATS streak. Got it.
88:14But, Bucs finally get their cover. And I have a...
88:17I think they went out right now. It could be a disaster for Daniels.
88:22You just... You really don't know. But I think with the uncertainty...
88:26Yeah, it's fair. Yeah. I think it makes sense as money on the other.
88:30So, Jags, Bucs pay out around plus 470 at DraftKings.
88:34All right. To wrap things up, our six-pack will include Evan's favorite pick, Denver plus three.
88:39But for our contest, Doug's favorite two picks is going with Washington and Jacksonville.
88:44Sticking with that, right, Doug? Yeah. Washington and Jacksonville.
88:47Washington with the hook. Jacksonville plus two and a half.
88:50I'm going with Houston, which I talked about right off the bat, minus two and a half.
88:56We're going to throw the Dolphins in there. Just the fate of the Vikings offense right now.
89:01Reluctantly. I thought about the Bucs. It was either the Bucs or Dolphins.
89:05But we'll go with the Dolphins. We'll call it ten and a half.
89:10That's what it is. But there's 11s out there.
89:13Make sure you shop around. Ten and a half at DraftKings right now.
89:17We'll call it ten and a half. And then my final pick, we'll go with the Jets plus three and a half against the Bears.
89:25Look, I was on the Bears this week. I love Ben Johnson.
89:29I think it's going to be Tyson Bajan who starts.
89:33If it is Case Keenum, I don't think he's going to play as well as he did last week.
89:39The Eagles are just a mess right now. He threw a couple of interceptable balls as well.
89:44But I think from all the comments that Ben Johnson has made, it's going to be Tyson Bajan.
89:50Is he good? I don't really know. I mean, we've seen him.
89:54We've seen one year where he had a long stretch of play.
89:58He had two big-time throws, 11 turnover where he plays back in 2023.
90:03He's a little bit more mobile than Keenum. But he's not as experienced.
90:07He's not like the vet, the Jared Goff light.
90:10And this Jets team is feisty. I know they have some injuries, which is a bit of concern, like A.D.
90:16Mitchell, Parham on the offensive line. But I think they'll get Fitzpatrick back.
90:21This team's been feisty. Geno should be kept clean where he's been very good this year because the Bears don't really generate pressure.
90:28And the Bears' defense, like, I like Muhammad, this rookie.
90:32I think he's a steal in the fourth-round draft pick.
90:35He's inserting him in the lineup I think is smart.
90:38And the Bears' defense has been good the past two weeks.
90:42But they faced the broken Philly and Vikings offenses.
90:45Those offenses are completely broken. Remember what Carolina did in week one.
90:49I think the Jets can move the ball here.
90:52I just don't think the Bears should be laying over a field goal with the state of their defense, with a backup quarterback, on a short week.
91:01I know it's a big coaching mismatch. But, look, the Bears were catching.
91:05I got them plus four and a half last week against Philly, who I think is completely broken.
91:11Now they're laying three and a half. I don't think that there's a touchdown difference between Philadelphia and the Jets across two of the most important numbers.
91:20So I think this game will be close. Give me the Jets plus three and a half.
91:25So our six-pack, Washington, Jacksonville, Houston, the Jets, the Dolphins, and the Broncos.
91:30Evan, anything to add on any of those picks or anything else?
91:34Any other key nuggets that you wanted to mention before we get out of here?
91:39I just love the note that the Bays face off with Tampa Bay and Green Bay.
91:44Neither have covered a game against the spread since week 14 of last season.
91:49So I predict Green Bay closes at four and wins by four.
91:5320 combined non-covers for the straight. 20 straight combined non-covers for the Bucs and Packers.
91:58So yeah, if it closes four, I'm going to bet exact margin, exact win by four.
92:03That would be too funny. All right, that'll do it for us.
92:07Thanks to Doug for joining me. Thanks to Evan.
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