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1:33I am Evan Abrams and I am joined by futures analyst and my man, Brandon Anderson, for a deep dive into the futures market and much more.
1:41Brandon Kravitz recovering from a fun doctor's visit. So we will see him another time.
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1:51Let's jump in with some buy or sell. So Brandon, first of all, what's up?
1:56How are you, man? I'm good, man. We're three weeks in.
1:59I'm a little better today than I was on Sunday.
2:02Took it on the chin a couple of times on Sunday.
2:06I think a lot of folks had a rough weekend betting.
2:09So not my best outing. Thankful for Dalton Schultz to kind of clear off my losses from the weekend from the previous week.
2:16But it was a heck of a day of football, though.
2:20Like, it was not fun for me as a batter.
2:23But 12 one-score game, just close, fun games all the way.
2:26I live in Chicagoland. As you know, I was at a Bears watch party last night.
2:31I didn't think it was going to be a very close, competitive game going in.
2:36I was right, but the wrong direction. It was a pretty fun watch party to be at.
2:41Case Keenum just lighting it up out here on the Eagles.
2:44So it's been a fun season so far. Yeah, Case Keenum joining list with Drew Brees and Tom Brady.
2:50Not something we expected against the Eagles defense. But here we are.
2:54All right, let's move to market movers. We're going to go through some questions.
2:58Buy or sell. Are you buying this? Are you buying or selling?
3:02What are you buying? You want to sell? Buy it!
3:05Time to sell us right now. We'll start with the one at the top here, which feels like a storyline so far this season.
3:13So QBs just don't matter anymore, which is just a funny line in itself.
3:17But non-week one starters are 6-0 straight up so far this season.
3:21Stat came out from ESPN today. I saw it in a bunch of different places.
3:25Even using my data, like backup quarterbacks so far this season, 5-2 straight up and against the spread.
3:31So it's definitely been a theme so far. So what do you make?
3:35Buy or sell? QBs just don't matter. I mean, you know I'm going to sell.
3:39QBs don't matter. Of course. It's a fun thing to talk about at the top.
3:44Keenum was awesome last night. I don't know if it was just where we're at, but the audio on Keenum was so loud.
3:51I felt like we were hearing him like, you know, we got the mic over here.
3:56There's the Sam. All right. We're good. We're good.
3:59And then the snap. It's like just calming everybody down.
4:02The whole offense, like the coach on the field effect, just played some mistake-free football.
4:07And so that game last night, that was ugly for Philadelphia.
4:10You're about one inch and one second away from a 34-0 shutout.
4:14One second and a half time on the only touchdown they got.
4:17If a second. And an inch away in that Loveland touchdown that ended up being nothing for them.
4:23So pretty alarming for the Eagles. Pretty good for Keenum.
4:26So you mentioned the sixth quarterback, 6-0. Here they are.
4:29Keenum, Penix, Mariota, and Jameis this week, 4-0. Carson Wentz, my guy, and Drew Locke last week.
4:34So let's go through the list. The Eagles are fraudulent.
4:38Should probably be 1-2. Maybe even 0-3. So that's the best one.
4:41That's Case Keenum. Penix is the real starter. So replacing Cooper Rush, congratulations on that.
4:46That doesn't count. The Commanders got crushed by the Seahawks.
4:4931 or 33% to 51% success rate. Almost 200 yards more for Seattle.
4:53Just four turnovers. Just one of those wonky ones.
4:56Evan, you and I used to do the Sunday night recap.
4:59We would have brushed this one off so fast as just looking at what that game was.
5:04But you know, it's football. It's how it goes.
5:07Jameis and Locke, they beat Tennessee and Arizona. Congratulations on beating those teams.
5:11And then my guy, Carson, he went on a monsoon.
5:14In Chicago, under 250 yards. Fumble at the one.
5:17Block field goal. Look, it's football. This stuff happens.
5:20But here's the takeaway for me. I think we collectively still overreact a little bit to the downgrade at quarterback in a game.
5:27For one game, I think for most of these quarterbacks, especially the way coaches have gotten so good at coaching around it,
5:34especially as we've gotten more and more guys that can just kind of follow the script, I think the quarterback downgrade is
5:41maybe only worth a couple points to spread in most scenarios.
5:44Not for Josh Allen. Not for Patrick Mahomes. Not for those guys.
5:48But there's not a lot of those guys anymore.
5:51So, we know this. But to remind you, it's usually profitable to bet on the backup quarterback.
5:56At least in the first game. We hit Bears plus five last night.
6:00It's a good spot for that quarterback. Long term, quarterbacks matter.
6:03I don't need Carson Wentz in my life all season.
6:06I don't need Case Keenum leading the Bears offense all season.
6:10Long term, it matters. Post season, it matters. Look around the league.
6:13Look at the Patriots. Look at the Chargers. Look at the Eagles.
6:17You got franchise quarterbacks stinking right now. And you got teams stinking right now because of it.
6:22So, quarterbacks matter. Backup quarterbacks, they're doing all right out here.
6:26That's what I think. Yeah, I think it's two different things.
6:29NFL teams aren't trying to cover games as much as some people may think differently than that.
6:34So, I think some bad quarterbacks and a lot of bad quarterbacks sometimes cover games.
6:39So, that is a completely different statistic than trying to actually win a game with a backup.
6:44And I agree. I think sometimes at first game, it happens when stars are out in the NBA.
6:50Like, there is a jump initially for some of these teams when their stars are out in big positions.
6:56And then after a while, it kind of comes back to the mean and teams tend to, you know, not perform as well.
7:03So, quarterback, very important. And, you know, me and Sean Koerner put out this QB list of like, you know, who's most valuable to the position, right?
7:11Like, the backup quarterback, one of the most important positions in the NFL.
7:15And, you know, this week we're about to see what Jalen Daniels does for Tampa Bay.
7:20So, all right. Let's move to question number two here.
7:23Buy or sell? The Rams are in serious trouble at one and two.
7:27I was just curious. So, I pulled a statistic or two just to kind of set us up here.
7:33So, 13 teams have closed at five to one odds or shorter to win the Super Bowl during a season.
7:39And they were under 500 through three games. So, 13 teams.
7:43Six of those made the playoffs. One made the Super Bowl.
7:4693-94 Cowboys. Like, obviously, whatever. Tons of different circumstances.
7:49Tons of noise. Different teams. But, interesting enough, it is a little bit difficult to overcome this, especially when things don't start so fast early.
7:57So, what do you make of the Rams? Yeah.
7:59I mean, those are not great odds. You don't want to be basically 50-50 to make the playoffs at this point and
8:06nearly drawing dead to get to the Super Bowl based on, you know, a small sample.
8:11But, not a sample you want to be part of based on the numbers you just heard.
8:16This particular game, not a huge concern. They nearly doubled the yardage against Denver.
8:21Six yards a play almost. 82 plays on the field.
8:24And that's no Pukunakua. Where we came in saying, okay, well, Sertan's going to cover Devontae Adams.
8:29Nope. He's still all over the field. And you just have a completely different.
8:33We got Tyler Higby lighting up the Denver Broncos defense.
8:37It was supposed to be Ferguson. And then he gets hurt.
8:40So, just, sure, let's put in Tyler Higby back in.
8:43And then have him do the thing. The defense looked dominant in the first half.
8:48This was what the Rams were supposed to be.
8:50Then Denver gets going. And you give up two touchdowns and two point conversions and a pick six.
8:56And still almost won. You give the Rams probably like two more plays.
9:00They probably get there. Instead, Stafford has to throw it up.
9:03And you get picked off in the end zone.
9:06So, look. Again, you didn't win. I know you can do almost on everything.
9:11The results matter. But my opinion on the Rams overall, I don't think it's really been moved that much.
9:16Week one in Australia, we know about just kind of the weirdness of that game.
9:21They demolished the Giants. They looked just as good for half against the Broncos.
9:25If you look at the NFC, big picture. The Eagles lost last night.
9:29The Seahawks lost on Sunday. That was the big upset.
9:32But who are the Rams meaningfully behind right now, even at one and two?
9:37I'd say just the Niners, to be honest. And they are meaningfully behind them because they lost the head-to-head.
9:43But I think they're still in fine shape. And they're doing this without Puka.
9:47They're doing this without Myles Garrett. Basically hasn't played at all this season, really.
9:51And I think they'll be all right. So, coming up, we go at Philly and then Buffalo.
9:57So, I think even one and one, you're probably still okay in there.
10:01You can't go in two. You can't get to one and four.
10:04Then you're going to be in that bad group, Evan, that you talked about.
10:09But I think you're okay. But big picture, at FTN, the Rams are projected now at 9.8 wins.
10:14That's not a number this team was thinking about coming into the season.
10:18They have them 11% to win the division over there.
10:2111% is not what people thought in September for a team this loaded.
10:25I think the Rams are probably fine. I think you bet them game to game fine.
10:30The margin for error is shrinking. I think MVP is probably already gone for Stafford.
10:35I think Offensive Player of the Year is probably gone for Nakua.
10:39Defensive Player of the Year is definitely gone for Garrett.
10:42All these things. We thought the Rams maybe could just sweep everything and be this incredible team.
10:47I think that's gone. I think they can still be really good.
10:51But they're going to have to be really good just to make the playoffs and then be really good in the playoffs
10:57on the road, the way things are setting up right now.
11:01So they're good enough. But they're like a top five team now.
11:05And they do have a hole that they've built.
11:07So I'm not out. But I'm not necessarily in all the way either.
11:11And those FTN numbers to me are interesting because obviously they're like minus three on the road in Philly this week.
11:18You said the game against Buffalo next week, which they're also about a three-point favorite.
11:22But to me, I don't really make them 54%, 55%, whatever, minus three, both games work it together.
11:28I just think they're coin flips. So I think like they – I was going to say they could easily start one and four.
11:35Like it really depends on what you feel about Philly.
11:39Really feel about Philly. But Philly is at home in this situation.
11:42They are off a loss, like both on the same situation.
11:46And then you got Buffalo, which could easily win a road game on the West Coast.
11:51So I just think I'm at a real pause here when it comes to the Rams.
11:56I don't love what I've seen so far. And I think no Puka makes their offense just a little bit easier.
12:02And, you know, Blake Corum hasn't looked fantastic at points.
12:05Kyron's taking a bulk of a loaded points. They're running five tight ends.
12:09Like I just think that they're still trying things.
12:12And I think there's more complete teams at the moment.
12:15So I'm in wait and see mode. All right.
12:18Last one at the top here. Got to talk about the Texans.
12:22So the Texans still aren't dead and are worth the future.
12:25It's a real buy-sell question. So you can give us the numbers.
12:29I'll show you what I found, which 33 teams enter the season at 20 to 1 or shorter Super Bowl odds and start 0-3.
12:36One made the playoffs. And that's obvious. No one makes the playoffs at 0-3.
12:40And it was the 2018 Texans. The interesting thing to me is 10 of those 33 teams got to eight wins.
12:47So that really gives you like a perspective of like getting back into the field.
12:52So you yourself, you got Dallas this week at home, about a two and a half point favorite.
12:57What do you make of the Texans? Yeah, it's a tough one on the Texans because you don't want to be 0-3
13:04and you know all the numbers about 0-3. But then you're like, oh, nobody ever gets 0-3 to the playoffs.
13:10Look, except the Texans. Except the Texans last year and except the Texans the other time.
13:15So it's just the Texans that do it, who just keep on digging this hole and keep digging out of it.
13:21That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen again, though.
13:25They are really against it at this point. And I think on Houston, it's a tricky spot because as much as it's
13:31easy to just, you know, make fun of the offense and CJ Stroud and there's no Nico Collins, they obviously need Nico back out there.
13:39Like, I mean, who are these guys we're even playing at receiver?
13:43I don't know what we're doing out there. The line has not been good.
13:47Same old story year after year. And Nick Cayley has not been good calling the plays.
13:52The numbers say the offense hasn't been terrible. It's easy to just be like, oh yeah, top five defense, bottom five offense.
13:59Same old Texans. It's not what the numbers say.
14:02The numbers say the offense has been like kind of like a little below average.
14:06It's not as bad as we make it sound.
14:09The problem is the defense isn't what we make it sound like either.
14:13They lost a linebacker this week. They have a real weakness over the middle of the field right now that teams can pick on.
14:21And I think that their predictability defensively is something that teams are prepared for early in the season, especially as well.
14:27The corners haven't been quite as good as usual.
14:30Will Anderson, he's been incredible. Will Anderson nearly won the game last week on his own.
14:35But yeah, if you're Houston, if we knew what we thought coming in and we said, okay, it's going to be a bad offense, but an amazing defense.
14:43And now we said, okay, what if I could boost the offense seven spots in the rankings, but I have to take those seven away from the defense.
14:52That's what we've done. That's what this team is right now.
14:55I don't think that's a winning scenario for Houston.
14:58And I don't think that's a trade you necessarily want to make.
15:02So I still like the team. I love watching the team.
15:05I still have them like 12 to 14th in my power rating.
15:09It's still a good team, but 12 to 14th, that's how many playoff teams we have.
15:14And none of the other ones are 0-3 right now in that group.
15:18So it's going to be a tough spot. I think there's value betting Houston game to game.
15:23I have them on the look ahead already against Dallas this week.
15:27Jacksonville is good in that division, man. Jacksonville is looking great.
15:30Indianapolis is good and just beat Houston. I think they're going to be around.
15:35I like Indy's over seven and a half right now as well.
15:38So I don't see futures value on Houston. I don't think that's the way to go right now.
15:44We talked about it last week with Brandon Kravitz of just Houston's number.
15:48The books haven't gotten away from it yet. And so I think you can play game to game maybe, but we're maybe
15:55another loss or two away from starting to question that too.
15:58Yeah, I think this is a difficult one. Houston's 0-3.
16:01You said like, you know, the markets haven't exactly gone away from them.
16:05They're favorites. So, I mean, 0-3 team favorite against like this Dallas offense, even, you know, whatever you make of the defense.
16:12I think the difficult part and almost the impossible part is without Nico Collins.
16:16Like it is just an absolute different team. Put him back into the lineup.
16:21Houston could look a lot different. I also think it's a little bit weird that week one, you get the David Montgomery situation.
16:28They look fantastic. Week two and three, it's been a complete different story.
16:32And even you look at some of the advanced numbers, weeks two and three, they're 27th in success rate.
16:38They're 29th in EPA. Like it's which team you're getting.
16:41It's too early to find out, but I'm not buying at the moment.
16:45I think I need to wait and see. So I agree.
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18:23Let's look at the big picture here. All right.
18:26Let's go to the big picture. Brandon, we're going to go just basically through a bunch of teams here, but only the teams that are 3-0.
18:34So I want you to kind of analyze. It's the Chiefs, the Bills, the Niners, the Vikings, and the Raiders.
18:40Go one by one. We'll kind of have some back and forth here.
18:44Yeah. So I do an article every year on what do we do with these 3-0 teams?
18:49Who's real? Who's... I mean, nobody's not real when you're 3-0.
18:53But who's a little less real, perhaps, than it looks?
18:56And how often do those teams still miss the playoffs?
18:59So here are the numbers. Since the merger in 1970, 75% of 3-0 teams go on to make the playoffs.
19:05That's pretty good. But I'd really like to make it more than 75% if I'm 3-0.
19:10If I'm 3-0, I'm feeling a little better than 75% of playoffs right now.
19:14Kind of like we said with that Rams number.
19:17Since 2013, that drops a little bit to 68%.
19:2045 out of 66. About 2 out of 3.
19:23Again, not as high as you would think. Now, in the last five years, we expanded the playoffs.
19:28So we have an extra spot now. A little more cushion for you.
19:32The numbers have been better. Up to 79% to make.
19:35So a little better in that stretch. But just last year, I did this column.
19:40We had six teams that started 3-0. Two of them you forgot about because they finished so badly.
19:45The Buccaneers and the Colts, back half of the season, went 3-14 combined after starting 6-0 the first three weeks.
19:52And both missed the playoffs. So we've seen teams collapse like this.
19:55Generally speaking, we've got five teams this year. No Eagles.
19:58Get them out of here. No 3-0 for them.
20:01The odds say one, maybe two of these teams missed the playoffs.
20:05So we're going to go in order of the team I think is the safest down to the team that I think is, you know, not the safest.
20:14And not a shocking order for today. I know I like to surprise and go contrarian sometimes.
20:19I'm kind of consensus on this. We'll talk all the way through.
20:22So let's start with the Chiefs. I don't think we learned a lot this week, right?
20:27We played the Dolphins. They crushed the Dolphins. The Dolphins are a college team.
20:32Like this is not a real game. Nothing to take away here.
20:35I actually looked around. Give me Dolphins to win exactly one game.
20:39Where can I bet that at? That's the bet I want.
20:43You don't go in 17 anymore. Just get one game.
20:46Exactly one. I want that bet. Before that, Colts take the Chiefs to overtime.
20:50All right. Feels close. The Chiefs had almost 200 yards more.
20:53Almost seven yards per play offensively. They cruised in that game.
20:57The Colts were lucky to get as far as they did.
21:00They crushed Denver in the opener. We forget that now.
21:03But they doubled up Denver in yardage and in first downs.
21:07Kenneth Walker was everywhere. Where Denver, since that game, beat the Jaguars and the Rams.
21:11That could be a Super Bowl matchup. And Denver just beat those teams.
21:15And the Chiefs crushed Denver in this month that we're recording still.
21:19So that's the 3-0 start. I'm not impressed by the Miami win.
21:23But the Colts and Broncos ones are pretty good.
21:26And this is supposed to be the downswing for the Chiefs.
21:29This is Mahomes coming off the torn ACL, getting back up to speed.
21:33This is new running back. Revamped line. Breaking in a new offensive style.
21:37This is new cornerbacks that they're breaking in. I think this is real.
21:41Chiefs are top six DVOA offense and defense so far.
21:44Small sample, but that's where you want to be.
21:47Top 12 run and pass offense and defense. Up next, obviously the big game this week at the Raiders.
21:53Another 3-0 team we'll get to in a bit.
21:56Then an early bye week. Then the Chargers. You already beat the Broncos.
22:00If you went out the Raiders and the Chargers, that division's a wrap.
22:04Like you're already basically set up at that point.
22:06It will get tough later. Week 12-14, the Chiefs go on the road.
22:10Three straight. Bills, Rams, Bengals. So there will be a chance.
22:14If you want to fade the Chiefs, I get it.
22:17You can do it. You shouldn't do it now.
22:20You can do it later. If you want to buy the Chiefs, I get it.
22:24I think you're too late. 11-1 Super Bowl. 9-1 Mahomes MVP.
22:28I think you're too late. You missed the window on that.
22:31Now you've got to wait. Now you've got to play game to game.
22:35I think, Evan, the Chiefs are safe. And they're the Chiefs we always knew they were.
22:40I kind of disagree. Which is good for a podcast situation, obviously.
22:44I just think this is the easy part of the season.
22:47I think, surprisingly, they look fantastic when Mahomes is just trying to get back in.
22:52So I do think that is a bit of a, oh my God, they look so good early thing.
22:58But the schedule was kind of made for this.
23:00And you had mentioned it, and that's why I was nodding my head.
23:04After the bye, Chargers are what they are. But Seattle, Denver.
23:08And then you get that brutal stretch at the end of the year.
23:12Buffalo, Rams, Bengals, Patriots, 49ers at the Chargers. I mean, I just think there are steps and things to come.
23:18And yes, the signs look fantastic. They're a Super Bowl, you know, not favorite, but top five type situation.
23:24Everyone's putting them number one across the league. I just want a tiny pause.
23:28And it shouldn't be this week. Like, they should win the Raiders.
23:32The Raiders are a fraudulent 3-0 team. But to me, it's a wait-and-see situation.
23:36And the early bye, I don't know how much I love that for the KC team.
23:41Like, I think I would have preferred it to be later.
23:45So we'll see how it goes. All right, hit me up with the Bills.
23:49Yeah, Bills, obviously, just classic Bills game on Sunday against the Chargers.
23:53They literally fumble on the first play. They end up with five turnovers.
23:57You know, Josh Allen has one of those games.
23:59But unlike usual Bills, they win the game. They cover in the game.
24:04They win comfortably in this one. The Chargers basically feel like, I look at yards.
24:08I look at success rate. That's the thing when we're at the end of the day Sunday, looking at a quick glance.
24:15It's how these teams do against each other. Chargers basically dead even.
24:19That's the 0-3 Chargers that everyone is dumping on correctly.
24:22So you don't want to be even with the Chargers at the end of that.
24:26But Josh Allen has that game where he's doing all the stupid Josh Allen stuff.
24:31But he does the other Josh Allen stuff. He's saving the game with his legs and his creativity.
24:37That play late in the game, fourth down. I think fourth and seven out near midfield.
24:42They go for it. He's kind of getting sacked.
24:44And he stays up and flips the ball out to Ty Johnson, who goes all the way for a touchdown.
24:50He gets called back. So just a first down.
24:53But that's the sort of MVP play that Allen has.
24:56Even in the midst of, I'm losing you the game.
24:59He wins you the game. And covers the game like great teams do.
25:03So for me, I was a huge Bill skeptic.
25:06This is the exact game the Bills lose. Like two, three times a year and in the playoffs.
25:12It's meaningful that they didn't lose. It's meaningful that the offense is so good.
25:16They have a little extra margin for error now.
25:19I think Joe Brady has surprised me and really added some margin for error there.
25:24So they're 3-0. I will say, though, they've really only been great in one of the three.
25:29That was the Thursday night Lions game. They just demolished the Lions, who were, by the way, off of overtime on a short week.
25:36A spot that everybody liked for the Bills that day.
25:39Against the Texans in week one, we just talked about them.
25:43Houston, I think, outplayed them in some of the metrics.
25:46Success rate much higher. Buffalo hit the explosives. Buffalo won late.
25:49But Josh Allen dropped interception, turned into a touchdown on the next play.
25:53There's the game. That was the game late. Look, that's how it goes.
25:57You've got to make the plays and win. So for Buffalo, they're making the plays.
26:02They're beating a tough stretch on the schedule. Houston, Detroit, and the Chargers.
26:06That's supposed to be a pretty tough stretch coming in, even though I know the records aren't great.
26:11I still worry about the defense. It's not as bad as I thought coming in.
26:16Greg Russo has been awesome. Deion Walker, breakout defensive tackle.
26:19They're like 20th best in the league in a lot of metrics.
26:23That's not great, but you can live with 20th best when the offense is this good.
26:28When the offense is top three running and passing.
26:31When they're a little pass heavier under Joe Brady.
26:33I didn't expect that. That's one of the things I didn't love about him.
26:38They've been so run heavy. Dalton Kincaid continues to be awesome.
26:41If your offense is that good, you can live with a mediocre defense.
26:45You just can't be bad. History says offense that good makes the playoffs.
26:49I think this team probably should be 2-1, maybe even 1-2.
26:53But we talked about the Rams. I think you can make a case they're pretty kind of similar sort of a team outcome so far.
27:00But the Bills aren't 1-2. They're 3-0. And that matters because you're one Josh Allen injury away from peril at all times on this team.
27:08That's the problem. But the flip side, you're home against the Patriots this week who can't do anything right now.
27:14You're a touchdown favorite. And if you win that game, you're basically three and a half games up in the division as October starts.
27:22And I think you're already a wrap. You're already in the playoffs at that point.
27:26I'll still be skeptical later until I see better from the defense.
27:30But as far as making the playoffs, I think the offense being this good has to make them pretty safe.
27:36It's funny. It's legitimately just winning the exact same amount of games every single regular season.
27:41It looks the same over and over again. And I have no reason to think that's not going to be the same this year.
27:49And I do think the defense will get a little better since we're talking 24s, 25, and 26 in terms of rankings
27:55on a lot of efficiencies for them. All right.
27:58Let's go to that third team, as I just mentioned.
28:01Who is it? It is the San Francisco 49ers.
28:04It is the San Francisco 49ers. Again, not a lot of surprises here that these three, whatever order you'd put them, I
28:11think these three clearly at the top. My skepticism on why this is third of those three, pretty easy to understand why.
28:18It's the injuries. The injuries are setting you up for what could be a house of cards situation.
28:23Let's start with the good. But this offense has been even better than Buffalo.
28:27And, like, by margin, actually, so far, thanks to Buffalo not being so good this week.
28:32But by DVOA, they're one of the best 3-0 starts in league history.
28:36They're number one in DVOA. Top quarter of the league running and passing offense and defense.
28:41I don't know if we've really seen this team prove all that much, though.
28:46Like, the numbers look really great. And you can't argue with them.
28:49But I'm going to argue with them. So, week one, Australia, Rams, they were really good.
28:54You get credit for that. But it's going to be hard to know for another few months still how much was that a real outcome in Australia.
29:03The first game of the season, we know, like, week one, even most of September, is kind of a preseason type thing at this point.
29:10The Niners crushed the Rams. There's no doubt about that.
29:14I'm not making any skepticism there. How meaningful was it?
29:17I don't think we know the answer to that yet, in part because look at the last two weeks.
29:22The Niners played the Dolphins and the Cardinals. Okay, what are we really learning from that?
29:27You play the Dolphins. First five drives, five touchdowns, over 10 yards of play.
29:32Congrats, again, Dolphins, a college team. Play the Cardinals, almost nine yards of play.
29:36But, defensively, 52% success rate allowed. Defensively on the field, 39 minutes.
29:40I don't love that for a team that's supposed to be winning big against the Cardinals.
29:45Only a six-point win. And, again, more injuries. Nick Bosa gets hurt in practice last week.
29:50Then Mike Evans gets hurt. Then Trent Williams leaves the game.
29:53So, the injuries are already stacking up. The offensive numbers are just insane.
29:57But, too insane? I'm going to argue because 56% success rate, number one in the league, just outlier good.
30:0364% success passing. That is 10% higher than second place.
30:06You're not going to be that good all season.
30:09That's just not how numbers and success rate works.
30:12By EPA per play on passing downs, they're at 0.62 EPA per play.
30:16For context, that is almost double the number two team in EPA per play.
30:20You are not twice as good as every other team passing the ball.
30:24That is not how football works. By EPA per play overall, they're number one.
30:28They're almost 50% better than the Bills. Think about the Bills.
30:32Think of what we watched in that Lions Thursday night game when they could just score on every play they wanted.
30:38And the 49ers are 50% better. Okay. Yes, so far against the teams they've played.
30:43But those sort of numbers that can only go down, right?
30:46Like, you can only be worse and a lot worse than that.
30:50It's just unsustainable. They've not played a true road game yet.
30:53It was technically a road game in Australia. I mean, you're not at home.
30:58But that was not in LA. Different sort of environment.
31:01Back half of the season, only home games for the Niners.
31:04Seattle after a Mexico game. The Rams and the Eagles.
31:07So no easy home games. Lots of road games in the back half.
31:11And then, yeah, the injuries, man. Just already stacking up.
31:14The receivers are down to Debo Samuel and a bunch of dudes nobody even had.
31:19Like, in their deep 20-team fantasy league this year.
31:22You're still not taking these guys. Tonjes is out.
31:25Trent Williams is already getting banged up. The defensive line is decimated.
31:28They got nobody there. Nick Bosa out indefinitely. The secondary has been good so far.
31:33But what happens when it's not the Dolphins and not the Cardinals?
31:37So here's my conclusion on the Niners. I'm certainly not buying on Futurist right now.
31:41You're buying high and you're buying the injury risk.
31:44I think it's a house of cards. I think the injuries are stacking up.
31:48And it's not there yet. But it's going to get there where the wrong injury comes through.
31:54And it just, it all topples. I'm skeptical. I think you have to play game to game.
31:59It's Denver and Seattle next. So let's see. Like, that will tell us a lot more than these last two weeks.
32:05They just, you know, piled on against the easiest stretch of the schedule.
32:09But I think we have a lot to learn on the Niners.
32:13I'm skeptical that they're too good to fade right now.
32:16But I can't buy because of the injuries. Yeah, you just said it yourself.
32:21Talk to me after week five. After they face this Denver defense and after they are at Seattle.
32:26He's now, Brock Parody, 56 starts. He's never faced Denver.
32:29And in his last three starts for Seattle, two of those three starts are his fourth and sixth worst success rate in terms of passing.
32:37So he struggled versus that defense recently. So it's a wait and see for me.
32:42Like, the numbers are unbelievable. It's like two times better than any other quarterback.
32:46I just have to ignore it at the moment.
32:49Let's just wait and see. You know, this is why we have the NFL.
32:53We get to watch and see. And he faces two unbelievable defenses in back-to-back weeks.
32:58So can't wait for it. All right. These two teams are obvious.
33:01If you're going to list the 3-0 teams, these have to be at the bottom.
33:06I just think it's interesting to kind of analyze where you think both of them go.
33:11So talk me through them. Yeah, it's Vikings and Raiders left.
33:14And that's the order that I think that they should stack up here.
33:18So look, we know I'm a Vikings fan. I'm happy to be 3-0 as a Vikings fan.
33:24I think the fair outcome for this team is probably 1-2 right now.
33:28You can make a pretty easy argument that they could and perhaps deserve to have lost all three games so far.
33:34So week one, they're getting dominated, frankly, by the Packers.
33:37For three quarters, you know, no Kyler Murray for much of it.
33:41But look what the Packers have looked like since then.
33:44And then five crazy minutes in the fourth quarter blows the whole thing.
33:48The Vikings finish under four yards of play against that defense.
33:51Under 40% success rate. 239 yards. And it turns out that was their most successful offensive game so far.
33:57Because the next week, it's against Chicago in the rain.
34:0035% success. Under 250 yards again. 11 first downs.
34:03They win 9-3. And now you get the Bucs game this week.
34:07Under 250 yards again. All three weeks failing to crack 250 yards of offense.
34:11Nine first downs. Two of 15 on third down.
34:1424% success rate. You are successful on less than one of four offensive plays.
34:18And this offense is just rough. There are no two ways around it.
34:22And it's rough against the Packers and Bears and Bucs.
34:25Defenses have not been good so far. So I'm sure you have some of these stats too, Evan.
34:31Minus 244 yard differential. Second worst by any 3-0 team ever.
34:34Notably, the only worst team was the 2020 Seahawks.
34:37They still got to 5-0. They still finished 12-4.
34:40They still did make the playoffs. So it's not necessarily the end of the world.
34:45Worst EPA per play by any 3-0 offense in the last decade.
34:48Persumer Sports. There are 50 teams. They're 50th. So that's not where you want to be.
34:53But where you're at right now is basically through three games, you've lost effectively two games of Kyler Murray so far.
35:00You basically lost one game of Justin Jefferson this week.
35:03You've lost two games of Jordan Mason. You lost a Juwan Jennings game.
35:07Now you lost Josh Oliver. A name you might not think much of.
35:11But an awesome blocking tight end. That's a big part of their run blocking scheme.
35:15Basically a starter for them. So it's not good offensively so far.
35:19There's no proof that this works with Kyler. It's really bad.
35:23And then you go to the rest of the game and everything else is amazing.
35:27They're number one in defense. They're number one in special teams.
35:31Everything else has been incredible because it has to be.
35:34Otherwise, you're not 3-0. So the defense is as good defensively as the Niners offensively.
35:38Like that's how outlier good it's been. 31% success rate that they've allowed is an insane number defensively.
35:44They've allowed nine trips to the red zone, one touchdown.
35:47That's amazing and not repeatable. That is crazy outlier.
35:50It's not going to keep happening. Third down conversion over expected minus 11%.
35:54So you're not letting teams get your third downs in the first.
35:58You're not letting teams get into the end zone.
36:00It's really great, but it's not going to stay that great all season long.
36:05You did that against the Bears in the rain.
36:07You did it against Love and Baker. Both are struggling a lot.
36:11Both faulty blocking up front. Every defensive metric you choose is a wild outlier.
36:15So the same thing I just said about the Niners.
36:19It can't stay that good. It has to come back.
36:22So we talked about this with the Texans. What happens when it comes back?
36:26When the defense inevitably comes down a little bit, the offense has to be better than it's looked.
36:32We're going to get healthy. We're going to get some guys out there.
36:36Now what happens? What happens when you meet toward the middle?
36:39And by the way, number one special teams too.
36:42So that's not going to stay that high forever either.
36:45So the wins count. Packers, Bears, Bucs. This was a tough stretch on the schedule, especially with the injuries.
36:51So 3-0 is good. And you can't fade Minnesota in the futures market because guess what?
36:56They're playing the Dolphins this week. Why are the Dolphins playing all the teams on this list?
37:01I don't know why, but they're home 11.5 point favorites.
37:04Then they're at the Saints with a shoddy line.
37:07Tyler Shuck, bad pocket management. I don't love that.
37:10Against all the Brian Flores blitzing. Then a bye week.
37:13So look, here's what I'm going to tell you.
37:15I absolutely think the Vikings are fraudulent right now.
37:18I absolutely think they shouldn't be 3-0, but I think they're going to be 5-0.
37:23Then we're going to fade them after that. So we're going to bet against them at some point.
37:28I promise you, this is not Vikings fandom. It's just not right now.
37:32You got to wait a few weeks still. And after the bye, you have the Colts.
37:37So I don't even know. You might have to talk to me in November.
37:42But yes, yes, there is. This is a fraudulent situation on both sides of the ball if you want to just talk about extremes.
37:49But I do think that the defense will continue to cause havoc.
37:53They'll continue to make non-experienced quarterbacks do dumb things.
37:56And I think they're going to be a problem if they keep winning games because O'Connell is so good on the offensive
38:02side, even if it's bad, he's going to try to figure things out.
38:06So I'm a bit of a buyer in Minnesota at this point just because I feel like the injuries are a bit of bad luck.
38:14And none of them, Mason's on IR. I was trying to think, are they all long-term or are they more short-term where they can get healthy again?
38:22So to me, I'm a bit of a buyer.
38:25Talk to me about the Raiders. Yeah, I'm not a buyer in the Raiders.
38:30I hate to say it. We love a 3-0 Raiders.
38:33I think it's fun for the National Football League to have the Raiders being good again.
38:38They're right now 51% at DraftKings predict to make the playoffs.
38:4151% there, a coin flip to make the playoffs as we hit October.
38:45I don't buy it. We got the 3-0 Raiders hosting the 3-0 Chiefs.
38:49I think you got to enjoy this while you can.
38:52I don't think it's going to last. So we're zooming out.
38:56We're looking back at these three weeks so far.
38:58I think the Raiders have proven very little. If anything, I think they've actually proven maybe more negative than we're giving credit for.
39:05So you're 3-0 against the Dolphins, Chargers, and Saints.
39:08Those teams are a 1-8 combined. And the one win, they got badly outplayed, and they needed a late comeback to get there.
39:15That was the Saints when you played Miami in the opener.
39:19Pretty much dead even. Didn't even get 300 yards on that defense.
39:22Not great in hindsight compared to what we've seen Miami do the last two games.
39:27You play the Chargers pretty much even. 35% success rate offensively.
39:30Not great because the Chargers are not a team we want to play even right now.
39:35And then I thought the Saints outplayed them this week.
39:39More yards, better success rate. The Saints won a first quarter against the Raiders for the first time in like three centuries.
39:45Of course, the one I bet against them. That's the quarter that they beat them in.
39:50They lost because four turnovers. You get credit for that.
39:53You get the win. But I don't think they've really been great so far.
39:58I was optimistic about Kubiak's team running the ball.
40:00They've been terrible running the ball. The offensive line has not come together.
40:04They are 31% success rate rushing the football. That's bottom five against the Dolphins, Chargers, and Saints.
40:10Bad. Outright bad run defenses. And success rate's not even taking that into account.
40:14So if you could measure that against competition, I think they would just be worst in the league.
40:20So what's good so far? The defense has been good, but against the Dolphins, Chargers, and Saints.
40:25Poor offensive lines. Overall poor offenses. I think two things.
40:28This was my number 31 defense into the season.
40:31I had Rob Leonard dead last in my defensive coordinators.
40:34Clearly wrong. They're clearly not that bad. They're also not a top 10 defense like the numbers say right now.
40:40So there's still a distinct lack of talent. There's somewhere in between.
40:44Where is the somewhere? I think is the big question.
40:47Again, the wins count. You're not dominant in a game, but I think you've been lucky with a schedule, but you're not
40:54lucky anymore because here we go with the schedule.
40:56Starting with the Chiefs this week, then at the Patriots, maybe not as bad as it once looked.
41:02We'll see. Bills, Rams, at the Jets. That's the soft one in here, but they're pretty good right now.
41:08And at the Niners, Seahawks, at the Broncos. Well, the honeymoon is over Raiders fans.
41:12I think the Raiders will be underdog in all eight of those games.
41:17I think even at the Jets, if things go the way they're going.
41:21So what's the median outcome of just those eight games?
41:24Like one in seven, maybe two in six. I don't know that you're going to do much better than that.
41:30So you go two in six, you start three and oh, now you're five and six.
41:35Here's the problem. Once you start losing all these games, guess who's playing?
41:39Fernando Mendoza is going to come in and not Kirk Cousins anymore.
41:42And now look, I like Mendoza long-term. So not about that, but a rookie quarterback is going to lower your ceiling.
41:49You're going to lose some more games after that.
41:52So zooming out, what do we like? The defense is better than we thought a little bit.
41:57The linebacker has been better. The special team has been good.
42:00Kubiak's good. Brock Bowers has been great. We'll talk about him in a second, but you're still not running the ball.
42:07Gentry's not been good. The line's not been great.
42:10And looking overall big picture in my power ratings, not power rankings, power ratings.
42:14What do I think about a team right now on the field?
42:18Chiefs, Niners, Bills, all top six. That's easy. Vikings are in my top 10.
42:22I think they're a bit underrated in the market.
42:25I have the Raiders 22nd. They are a far, far cry down the list.
42:2922nd is nearly bottom 10. That's where I rank them offense and defense.
42:33And with the schedule coming up, I think that sets us up for a fade.
42:38So under eight and a half, that's going to be my bet.
42:42Under eight and a half wins on the season.
42:44Now look, they're minus 180 to miss the playoffs.
42:47That's a little safer if you want, but the only reason you're going to pay the extra juice there is if you
42:54think they're going to win nine or 10 games, but still miss the playoffs.
42:58I'm not paying for that. Like if you're out on the Raiders, you got to just be on the Raiders.
43:04The AFC has a lot of tough, you know, like really Miami and Tennessee are the only dead teams over there.
43:11I'll go under eight and a half. You can, if you want play under six and a half plus three 38 at draft Kings.
43:18This is a play on skepticism on the Raiders.
43:21And on that schedule coming up, you might go oh, and eight in that stretch.
43:26And suddenly you're three and eight. And suddenly we're getting very, very different numbers here.
43:30Now I will say this, the last six games, they play the Browns, the Titans and the Cardinals.
43:36So don't play this bet right now. If you are not willing to watch and maybe come on the other side later
43:43to make sure that you get a little, you know, balance out your portfolio.
43:47But this is maybe more of like a weekly trading segment one here where you can sell, you know, short some Raiders
43:54stock while it's temporarily high and you can come back on it later.
43:58Look, it stinks to rain on the parade of the surprise three and O team.
44:03Like I wanted to come in and be like Raiders are in and the bills or the Niners are out.
44:09Like that's a lot more fun of a take.
44:11Just the Raiders are not the team, even at three and O they're not a playoff team.
44:17And I think it's going to come crashing down pretty much immediately.
44:20Yeah. Rookie head coach cousins tied for the league lead and passing touchdowns.
44:24There's all sorts of things you could probably point to the schedule.
44:28I will say this at home this week. I think the only question is, is it this week or is it next week?
44:35Like, could you talk yourself into, cause the lines four and a half.
44:39Like if you like the Raiders, I think the time is now or next week.
44:44It is right here to go the opposite direction because you enter the season at a five and a half or six and a half win total.
44:52You're now up to like eight and a half.
44:55They're just basically adding a win on top of where you started.
44:59So will it be nine and a half? If they got the, if they beat the chiefs this week to me, and
45:06then that game at new England is a revenge spot.
45:09New England. That was like the one situation that no one will shut up about, about the Patriots from last season is losing that game against the Raiders.
45:17Well, now the Patriots can take care of business in a spot where they look like crap.
45:23So I really do kind of, kind of like new England in that game.
45:27But to me, the decision is now or before that new England game, depending on what you feel.
45:32But I agree. Now, what is the positive spin?
45:35Because fans out there, we do have a positive spin on the Raiders.
45:39What do you got? Yeah. So I dumped a lot on the Raiders.
45:43I do have a positive bet on the one part of the Raiders.
45:47I definitely want to invest in coming away from a Sunday.
45:51And that is Brock Bowers because my goodness, that man can play some football.
45:55So he came back and look, we got the news a couple of weeks ago, Brock Bowers.
46:00I had some preseason bets on Brock Bowers. And right before the season starts, we get news that the knee is injured.
46:07He's getting like the meniscus cut. I'm thinking, Oh, it's all bad.
46:11Like he's going to miss half the season. It sounds terrible.
46:14The reports are he's only a missing game or two.
46:17I'm like, get out of here. Nobody believes this crap.
46:20He's not going to come back with that early.
46:23He's not going to be good. So what happens?
46:26Comes back after two weeks after getting his meniscus cut, he gets thrown the ball three times on the opening drive.
46:32So Kubiak, apparently not really that worried about Brock Bowers.
46:36He's going to build the entire plane out of them because he goes 10 catches, 116 yards and a touchdown, 13 targets already.
46:43After one game in fantasy football, he has tight end 17.
46:46That's how good he was in that one game.
46:49And I mentioned building the entire plane for Clint Kubiak.
46:52Heck that's what I love about Brock Bowers because man, did that look a lot like Jackson Smith and Jigba in Seattle last year?
46:59Look, not the same player, obviously, but the way that you are building everything out of one dude last year, he had
47:0636% of Seattle's targets, 44% of their yards in week three Bowers, 42% of the targets, 47% of the yards, awfully similar.
47:13Tyler, you are supposed to build a receiving core in the NFL.
47:17Seattle didn't really have one last year. They had JSN though, and they made him the offensive player of the year.
47:23Who are the Raiders receivers? They don't really have any.
47:26So why not just throw everything to Brock Bowers all the time?
47:30Because frankly, he's not even really a tight end.
47:33And I know, I mean that in a complimentary way.
47:36He's, I think only played something like nine snaps as a traditional tight end this week.
47:41No receptions, I believe as a traditional tight end, he's mostly splitting out wide.
47:45So now you are up against corners, but you got four inches.
47:49You got 30, 40 pounds on them. You can leverage that.
47:52So I want Bauer stock. I know it's possible.
47:55He just gets hurt again. I'm ready to buy in because I think the sky's the limit.
48:00So what's the way? Not offensive player of the year.
48:03You lost two games. That's a tight end. It's too far to get to.
48:08It's exciting. I can't get there. Receiving yards leader, 75 to one at DraftKings.
48:12Man, that's pretty ambitious for a tight end. Again, down two games of stats.
48:16I can't do that. So I had to get creative.
48:19We got prediction markets. Now I got two bets for you.
48:23You can play Brock Bowers to be the top fantasy football tight end at 11% in the prediction market.
48:29That's basically eight to one. I am buying that.
48:31He's already tight end 17 on one game. You're basically competing, I think, against Trey McBride.
48:36McBride's at 26, 211. You're halfway there with Bowers.
48:39Two touchdowns to one. You're halfway there. And he has a two game head start.
48:44I think Bowers can catch him. And if McBride misses a game or two or gets shut down late in the season
48:51or whatever, then he easily catches him. So I love that bet.
48:54And if you want to kind of fund the bet, you can also at a pressure to markets play tight end points
49:01per game in PPR over unders for tight ends.
49:04Bowers over under is at 14. He scored 27.6 in this game.
49:08So we're double starting out already last year in a down season.
49:11Hurt all year. 14.7. He still went over the number.
49:14Rookie season 15 and a half. Still over the number.
49:17So I think this is how we fund our escalator.
49:21So we'll go over 14 points a game at 56% in the prediction market.
49:25And then we'll do a top fancy tight end at 11%.
49:28You kind of took exactly what I was going to say, which to me is the best.
49:34And that's why I love doing this pod with you is the best reason for buying into Bowers is when you look
49:40at the line for last week with Kubiak, 16 snaps in the slot, 16 out wide, seven in line with a 9.3 a dot.
49:48Like he is just being used all over the field, upfield, all around.
49:52Cause they just don't, especially how Betch got hurt.
49:55Like he's just the man and he is going to be all over the place.
49:59So those are some creative ways. I was going to ask what like the over under for receiving touchdowns was.
50:05If they had that like live, I don't know.
50:08Does he look? I think he has one this year or something.
50:12I was just trying to look quick. Yeah. So what I like about the points per game is that you can hit,
50:19like he could play three more games and then get hurt again.
50:22I hope not, but we can still catch that.
50:25That's a per game. We don't need an overall season total.
50:29I don't love a great point. I don't love betting touchdowns because you're kind of betting on the Raiders now too.
50:35Like you need to score enough points to get the touchdowns.
50:38He has not been a huge touchdown threat. JSN was under Kubiak.
50:42So maybe that's a Bowers thing. Now I'd rather bet if you can find it, I'd love a receptions.
50:48I'd start with that one. If you can find it, I like a yards over.
50:53I'd have to look at what the numbers are because I haven't seen that market up, but I prefer receptions, then yards over touchdowns.
51:00But I really like these fantasy ones where I haven't seen those ways to bet before, but with prediction markets, we can,
51:07we can do some trading and get in on some Bowers stock.
51:11Yeah, that is a really, really good point. I hadn't thought about that.
51:15The points per game stuff is like much more value in not having to play extended time, but yet getting the games that he's actually playing in.
51:23So for example, Brock Bowers could play one snap next game, catch one pass for no yards and finish with one fantasy
51:30point and be out for the rest of the season.
51:33And we'll still cash our bet because that's the number he's at right now.
51:37And we'd still get to that number. So that that's, that's the security blanket.
51:42I think where it's like, you have such a good head start and, and look, the other, I should mention to the potas possible downside.
51:49Mendoza is going to play at some point. Now what now does Mendoza go as easily to Bowers?
51:55I don't, I don't hate that. Like cousins loves the tight end.
51:59So cuz I'm going to throw to him plenty.
52:01Kubiak's going to make him throw to the tight end.
52:04Like that's your target out there. And if anything, it might get better because we see rookie quarterbacks lock onto their one guy all the time.
52:12So if you're looking out here at Jack bash and Trey Tucker and Naylor, and then you got giant Brock Bowers over
52:19here, I think I'm gonna throw him the football.
52:22So I don't mind that Mendoza plays either. They also both feel like nerds.
52:26They should get along. And honestly, Mendoza, Mendoza has happy feet.
52:30It's like what exactly we saw in the preseason.
52:33I feel like that's only going to help Bowers if he's in there.
52:37Okay. So Raiders under eight and a half, but Bowers, all these markets, we've got points per game.
52:42There's a bunch of stuff on prediction markets that are fun there.
52:46Love the points per game angle based off of how many games can be missed.
52:50Okay. So one last thing. Can I say one more thing?
52:54This better be important. There's one more thing before I go.
52:57You got some kitchen sink winners here. So give me what you got.
53:01Yeah. So week three, we talked about kitchen sink week.
53:04Here we are week four, Atlanta, Washington, Owen, two teams that won outright as big underdogs.
53:09That was two of the big stories last week.
53:12So here's your stat for kitchen sink teams in week four.
53:15Teams that were Owen, two, and then one outright as six that are now six point underdogs or less in week four.
53:22Those teams are 26 and 14 ATS, 65% cover rate covering by six points a game.
53:27Even better, straight up. Those teams have a winning record, even though they're underdogs.
53:3223 and 17 straight up covering or winning by almost three points a game.
53:3644% ROI on the money line. So guess who the two teams applies to again this week?
53:41It's Atlanta and it's Washington who both happen to be an island game.
53:45So like it or not, we're going to be watching them again.
53:49Washington Sunday morning in London, Atlanta. Monday night in New Orleans, the Hurricane Katrina game.
53:54So a little extra reason for the Saints to be amped up.
53:57That line could get pushed up. The numbers are telling us to be careful here that Washington and Atlanta could be dangerous a second straight week.
54:05I was doing research this week and I was like, Daniel Jones and Marcus Mariota in London.
54:11I feel like I've already seen this before. And they both played there a bunch of times, but not against each other.
54:17All right. Very good, Brandon. That'll do it for us today.
54:21Keep an eye out for Stucky and Doug's week four betting preview on Wednesday.
54:25I'll be on that as well. The touchdown show on Thursday and Friday.
54:29Brandon will be back for the NFL playground. Love those.
54:32The shoots, the ladders, the parlays, the whole works.
54:35Guarantee it's going to be better than last week.
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