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0:54Jonathan Brooks ADP is soaring up the board right now due to Chubba Hubbard going down due to injury.
1:00Jonathan Brooks and plenty more players are shifting up and down the board.
1:05We're going to break it all down right here on Player Profiler.
1:09What is going on, folks? Pete Nova here with Player Profiler.
1:12Super excited to be back. I have Matt Modica, who is part of the Fantasy Empire show here at Player Profiler.
1:19Matt is a very sharp guy, high stakes drafter, and is one of those guys that's pretty much in the trenches the
1:26last month, probably even earlier than that, Matt. Just looking at ADP, seeing where the markets are shifting and kind of just
1:33reacting as fantasy managers are reacting in real time.
1:36You're probably one of the better guys to bring on right now at this stage of the offseason because you've seen so
1:44many guys, again, move up and down the board.
1:47So excited to get your insight. Thanks so much for joining us.
1:50We're going to pick your brain a little bit here today.
1:54Well, thank you for having me. Excited to do this talk.
1:58You know, NFFC, ADP, been in the streets since like the first week of June, doing the live streams with Nelson Sousa, Paul Spateri.
2:06So I think I got like probably at least 25 live streams under my belt.
2:10Yeah, live streams. And then that's probably not even including the drafts that you aren't live streaming, right?
2:16Yes. Plenty of drafts this year under your belt and plenty of drafts in high stakes just over the last, I don't
2:24know, how many years have you been playing? Forgetting about just fantasy football, how many years have you been playing in high stakes?
2:31Well, I was really big on baseball. That's where I got in and kind of made my bones.
2:37It was NFBC, not NFFC. And I started like dabbling a little in NFFC.
2:42And then probably like around, you know, the late teens, like 2017, 18, 19, that area, I really started getting into football.
2:49And then the last few years, it's pretty much been all football and stopped doing baseball.
2:54Yeah. And when it comes to football versus baseball, baseball is a it's a tough grind, right?
3:00I mean, I do one high stakes league. It's not on the high stakes website, but it's like a five hundred dollar entry.
3:07It's only 10 guys. And it's just, you know, it's the NL only.
3:11Right. And it's Roto. It's it's like one. It's like two ad drops a week.
3:16It's a line of blocks one time. So you don't have to worry about continuously coming in every single day and doing the dailies and stuff.
3:25That's where fantasy baseball can be really tedious. But it is.
3:28I personally feel like there's more edges in fantasy baseball and it's a lot more data dependent.
3:34Where with football, we can look at the spreadsheets a ton and try to analyze a bunch of stuff.
3:40But the truth is, like the spreadsheets, it doesn't it doesn't translate nearly as much on a week by week basis.
3:47Whereas baseball, there's so many different things that you can track.
3:51So I feel like it makes it a little bit easier to find edges there and to predict for the future.
3:58But yeah, like I said, super excited to have you on here.
4:02Let's talk a little bit about the board, though.
4:05Let's just hop right into it. So we talked prior and we decided we were going to do the last three days of NFFC ADP.
4:13So this is what we have here on the board.
4:16And for those that don't know the format with NFFC, you know, it is a third round reversal.
4:22Roster construction is a little bit different than maybe, you know, another site that you might be drafting on.
4:28It is PPR as well. But before we get into the players for you, do you target a specific build early on in drafts this year?
4:37Are you one of those drafters that you're drafting with so much volume that, you know, you're maybe tinkering or trying a
4:44couple of different builds to try to get exposure to guys just in case you're wrong?
4:49Or what's your methodology this season? I mean, I'm going to diversify, but I'm only going to diversify on these players that I like.
4:57I have a certain pool. It's really not that big, be honest with you, because if you like everybody or not even
5:04if you like everybody, if you are in on everybody, then you're really in on nobody.
5:09So I think you have to take stands on players and, you know, make some commitments here.
5:15As far as builds go, it's going to depend where I am picking.
5:19Just like, for instance, if I'm picking three to five in the NFFC where you have to start three wide receivers, for
5:26me, most likely, unless somebody fell that, you know, was that I didn't expect, I'm going for four wide receivers.
5:33And I think that's advantageous because the way the board is giving you that running back in the fifth, that could be your RB1.
5:41And in the early sixth, you can get an upshot RB2 guy.
5:45You know, maybe there's question marks and stuff, but there's talent there, you know.
5:49But, you know, sometimes if you're picking, like, say, five, and you start out with a JSN or an Amon-Ra, if a
5:57Hampton fell, you know, he was never falling there until Mike McDaniel made that comment, which I think was, even if it
6:04wasn't a joke, you should not be following, you know, you should be buying a Hampton as much as possible.
6:10I know the lines, I know their line just took a loss with the center, so that's not good.
6:17But still, that's a top offense. Yeah. And when it comes to just the board, at least the last three days, in
6:24the first 48 picks, 28 wide receivers go off the board compared to 16 running backs.
6:29You know, it's normal though, right? Three wide receivers is what you have to start.
6:34So that gets pushed up, which is funny because this year, Matt, we hear all, everybody's saying the same thing, right?
6:41You got to draft running backs early. You got to draft running backs early.
6:45Like that's become that kind of herd mentality. And, you know, I'm not going to zig just to, I'm not going to
6:53zag when everybody's zigging just to do it for the sake of doing it.
6:57I'm with you though. Typically in these drafts, my strategy is trying to anchor down with a running back, right?
7:04And then hitting a ton of the wide receiver values after that.
7:08Just looking here at the first round to the second round, right?
7:12Running backs that go off the board at the end of the first, it's Jonathan Taylor, it's Ashton Gentry, it's James Cook.
7:19Then on the turn, you're getting a lot more running backs.
7:23So it feels like the running backs, like being on that one, two turn this year feels really good.
7:29It's being stuck in the middle this year between, you know, five and seven or five and eight is probably my least favorite area to draft, Matt.
7:38I don't know about you, but I just feel like if you, if you get the one, two, three, you're getting obviously
7:45a very elite player in Gibbs, Bijon chase, depending on how you have it.
7:49Maybe even some Puka there, depending on who's drafting.
7:52But then on the turn for the one, two, these running backs, like we look at, they get gobbled and gobbled up.
8:00I'm actually surprised Kenneth Walker is available. He's kind of being pushed into the middle of the second round over the last few days.
8:07What is your thoughts on Kenneth Walker? You touched on Amari on Hampton there.
8:12It's Hampton, it's Chase Brown, then H and then Barkley, then Kenneth Walker.
8:16Do you have it this way for you? If you're drafting typically, do you prefer those players over Kenneth Walker?
8:23Yeah, I mean, Kenneth Walker in the OC isn't going in the middle of a second round anymore.
8:29Like once in a while, maybe he's more going around that, you know, around the turn.
8:34Okay. So, you know, if he falls there, I'll tell you straight out, I did two slow primes that I picked between eight and nine.
8:42And I took Kenneth Walker on the turn when he was there.
8:46And he's just too good of a value for me to pass up.
8:50I think he's going to be the Chiefs offense.
8:53If I had to like project the line and I don't really do projections, I don't sit there and like crunch those numbers out.
9:01But I would put him at, say, Kareem Hunt's rookie season.
9:05You know, I think he's going to be the offense.
9:08They have not had a dynamic back in years.
9:11Andy Reid, once upon a time, he wanted that Andy Reid running back.
9:15They just went out, paid this guy, got him the bag.
9:19And, you know. Well, it's a good thing. I just got to stop you.
9:23It's a good thing that you mentioned it because I just did the filter again.
9:28It's funny. We were just talking. That's what I wanted to say to you.
9:33I had a preset. It's almost like a nudge from you of like, hey, I'm trying to tell you that the board doesn't look right without telling you.
9:42You want to know how I knew instantly? Yeah.
9:45It was the third round. In the third round, it's pretty much it's a wide receiver avalanche.
9:51There's times it could basically if Henry's there, Henry will go.
9:54But there's times it might be like Derrick Henry and that's it.
9:58Otherwise, it's all receivers. So. Yeah. Well, OK. So talk to me about Hampton and Walker.
10:03Right. Because I'm very high on Chase Brown and Walker.
10:07Brown is is becoming a one to turn pick.
10:10I was I pretty much that's what I said when I came out.
10:14I came out with my rankings a couple of weeks ago.
10:18I have Chase Brown at the one, too. I think he deserves to be there.
10:22But I have him in Walker kind of right neck and neck right now.
10:27There's I have Walker ahead of Chase Brown now.
10:30I've had it flip flopped. But I haven't really for me in preference.
10:34I have it as as Walker Chase Brown right now.
10:38And then I do have like Devon A chain and Barkley ahead of Omar on Hampton.
10:43Again, what are your what are your thoughts there?
10:46Like, let's just at least start with those three.
10:49Chase Brown, Kenneth Walker, Hampton. Are you like, hey, I'm just trying to get exposure to the three guys and you mix
10:56and match pretty much if you're on that side of the board.
11:00Typically, are you in on all three of those guys?
11:03And who would be the guy out of those three that you like the least?
11:08I am in on all three of them. I took Chase Brown in the current slow prime time I'm doing.
11:15I took him at nine. So, you know, for me, it was he's just in he's just in a great offense.
11:21I mean, Burrow has been injury prone, but I don't really see like the one guy behind him is Samajay Pirine.
11:28And I guess the sophomore running back, you know, so I don't really see a threat as long as he's healthy.
11:35He's going to get volume. They were working him out in the slot.
11:39And, you know, Chase Brown to me, I'm more in on like James Cook and Chase Brown than CMC and JT this year.
11:47I could be dead wrong on that, but they both had, you know, most touches last year.
11:53I kind of like fade that. So we'll see.
11:56Yeah. And I'm with you. And the Chase Brown thing for me, you know, one beautiful thing about Chase Brown and this
12:03offense is just you're getting two alphas on the outside.
12:06Right. In T. Higgins and Jamar Chase, which lightens up these boxes for Chase Brown to pretty much like really not take
12:13much contact at the line of scrimmage because defenses have to play them honest because they have so many weapons on the outside.
12:21So I have Chase Brown. I know you talked about the projections.
12:25It's not really your thing of crunching every single teams.
12:28I did this year's projections for Chase Brown. I did it for every team.
12:33Chase Brown, I have catching or I'm sorry, getting 90 targets this year.
12:37I do think it's very, very possible for Brown.
12:40I do think that defense is going to be a little bit better this year than we've seen in years past.
12:47They've made some improvements, which could be a little bit of a bummer when it comes to Chase Brown and projecting just the offense.
12:55Maybe they slow down a little bit. But who really knows?
12:58Right. It's still projecting for the defense. They still got to put it together.
13:03And we haven't seen that so far in the Joe Burrow era.
13:07Yeah. As far as Hampton goes, I mean, I wasn't buying anything Mike McDaniel was saying.
13:12What is he going to say? I mean, he's a three headed monster.
13:16Yeah. Tell me what team in recent memory has ever had a three headed monster at running back.
13:22Truly. There's some teams where you have the one-two punch and then you have a gadget guy that kind of goes in
13:29and is kind of like a special teams guy, but really doesn't make much of an impact.
13:35The truth is, and he also made the comment about the hot hand thing.
13:39And I'm just like, come on. We're talking about a hot hand.
13:43And like people reading into it a little too much.
13:47Now, my real concern, and you touched on it, is really just, you know, Rashawn Slater had a little bit of a setback with the patello tendon injury.
13:56He did miss some practice already. And that's popped up the last week.
14:00You obviously lost Biotis at center. So now they're relying on Slaughter.
14:04They're rookie center. And then at right tackle, you also have Joe Alt, who, you know, is obviously coming off ankle surgery.
14:11And they don't have much depth behind them. So hopefully Mike McDaniels can work some magic.
14:17Maybe, you know, the nice thing about McDaniels is he gets the ball out quickly in his scheme.
14:22So from a pass rush standpoint, just from Herbert's perspective, it may not be as much of a detriment because he can probably scheme around it.
14:31And we know Herbert's been able to elevate even with a depleted offensive line around him.
14:36So we'll have to see how it goes. But I do want to grab your opinion in the third round here because it's pretty telling.
14:44You see Jeremiah Love now going at the 3-4 turn.
14:48And that's interesting. I was not big on Jeremiah Love, Matt, you know, drafting him at the 1-2 turn.
14:54I mean, I'm sorry, the 2-3 turn where he was going a lot in, you know, a month ago, weeks ago.
15:01He obviously gets this ankle injury. And now he's kind of fallen to this 3-4 turn.
15:06This starts to become a little bit more of the area where I'm more comfortable drafting him.
15:12But if I am in that one hole where he is falling on the board and I have taken Gibbs, I'm probably
15:19not passing up on the wide receivers in this area because you have to start three.
15:24Is that typically your mindset too? Have you been drafting Love and where he's going right here?
15:30Does that kind of make sense? And is that something that you probably would be following as well because you did talk about hammering those wide receivers early?
15:39Usually I do like to just hammer the wide receivers if I get a Gibbs or a Bijan and take that advantage.
15:46All my Jeremiah Love shares in the NFFC online championship are in the 4th round.
15:51I don't think I have any in the 3rd.
15:54But he has gone early 4th at times even before the injury.
15:58And right before the injury, I was doing a prime time.
16:01And I don't know if I started pickings, burden.
16:04And I did take Love on that 3-4 turn.
16:07And then the game happened. He looked great. I was excited.
16:11And then he got hurt. Then he had, you know, 14 plays, whatever insane number they decided to use that game.
16:18But hopefully, you know, it's a high ankle, so that's never good.
16:22I would take him if he falls further in the 4th round.
16:26Then I'd have him in consideration. But the high ankle sprain does scare me.
16:30I do think he is a player that has the possibility to be a second-half league winner.
16:36Of course, again, I don't even really care. I mean, I want it to be Brissette.
16:41But they have a capable backup. The rookie, let's see what Carson Beck is.
16:46I really don't know. He looked good against backups in preseason.
16:49But this defense is so bad. They got no improvement.
16:53Remember last year? They were garbage time monsters. I mean, Michael Wilson had two number one weeks.
16:58And they have one of the greatest playoff schedules as well.
17:02Yeah. It's – the Love injury is going to be interesting to see how he shakes that off.
17:08And, you know, it was such a boneheaded thing.
17:11We're going to take a quick break. And then we're going to jump back to Malik Neighbors because I do want to touch on him.
17:19I know we're in the third round here. He does sometimes go third round.
17:23But he has moved up to now the second round with the positive news that's come out.
17:29So we're going to take a quick break. We'll go back to Malik Neighbors.
17:34Get your thoughts on that when we come back.
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19:36talking a little bit of draft strategy. Do you want to talk about Malik Neighbors?
19:41Because what an offseason, Matt, Malik Neighbors has had.
19:44When you talk about just ADP in general, Malik Neighbors has had – I mean he's lived on quite literally all ends of the spectrum ADP.
19:53We had the whole charity softball game and everyone's hyper-analyzing how he looks jogging to first base.
19:58Now he looks really fluid, really good in these team drills.
20:02He's getting back and back and more acclimated. We still don't know about week one, but his price point now in NFFC
20:09over the last few days is sitting at pick 20, which is a late second-round pick, kind of mid-late second-round pick, would go to team four technically.
20:18But what are your thoughts about Neighbors? I have taken him in more of the best ball formats.
20:24I have taken him as high as early second round.
20:27There's been a lot of times where he's came back to me on the third-round reversal, and I've taken him there as well.
20:35But what are your thoughts on Neighbors? Is this a price point for you that's still too high coming off of this
20:42injury, or do you find yourself comfortable taking chances on him as well even if his price point's here?
20:48I mean I've done a complete 180, and my advice is draft Neighbors early and often.
20:53I think it was August 2nd I sent out a tweet.
20:57I was doing a slow prime and a slow online championship.
21:01And I took Neighbors at 3.5 in a slow prime.
21:04That doesn't exist anymore in that format. But in the OC, every now and then he might get to pick 25.
21:11But he's basically going anywhere from maybe late second on the off occasion, but more to mid to early second.
21:17And I think by September, if it keeps going positive over the next couple of weeks, you're going to see him creep
21:25into the first round, especially when they have these big money drafts in Vegas that they do, like these are closed leagues
21:32that are $5,000, $10,000 entries and stuff like that.
21:35People will get very aggressive. Even 90% of Neighbors is better than probably 95% of the wide receivers.
21:41Yeah, it's a good point. And it's just as simple of you want exposure to elite players.
21:46Neighbors is still elite while maybe efficiency could drop off.
21:50Volume-wise, we know that's probably still going to be there.
21:53There's not a lot of mouths to feed in this offense.
21:56And so, yeah, I'm comfortable taking him there as well.
22:00I have him ranked Malik Neighbors as a one-two turn pick.
22:03So I'm totally comfortable taking him there. Let's talk about DJ Moore.
22:07DJ Moore, you're a Bills guy. I would be curious to know your thoughts on him.
22:12He's risen. He's now at early fourth round. What's the highest you've seen DJ Moore go?
22:18Because for more casual, maybe non-high stakes drafts, you play on Underdog, you play on DraftKings.
22:23DJ Moore has been pretty much in the 50s for where his ADP has been for pretty much the entire offseason.
22:30He's started to creep up even in that format.
22:33But where do you typically see him go? And is this a price point for you, first pick in the fourth round,
22:40where you'd be still comfortable taking him in these formats?
22:43Well, as a Bills fan, I was furious last year.
22:47They didn't trade for Jalen Waddle and give up next year's first round pick or whatever, and when they traded for DJ Moore, I was extremely pissed.
22:55Not that they got DJ Moore, but that they paid a second round pick, number one, and you knew they were cutting
23:03him or they were getting rid of DJ Moore.
23:06He was not a fit in the Ben Johnson offense, had a big contract still, and the GM just got swindled there.
23:13If he would have spent the fourth round pick, so I've had a bias that I've been angry about it.
23:19Yeah, this feels like a sore subject for you a little bit.
23:23He did play under their now head coach in Carolina, and he had one of his best seasons.
23:29So now I am starting to come around. I only had a couple of shares maybe prior to the preseason game.
23:36And prior to the preseason game, for the most part, he was living at the end of the fourth, sometimes early fifth, in the NFFC.
23:44Now, like you said, he's going at the 3-4 turn.
23:48My boys, the Fantasy Sopranos, Steve G and Nelson, they were the ones that started taking him like a week prior, around that time, around the 3-4 turn.
23:57And then everybody started doing it. I even did it in an OC last week.
24:02I wanted to do another Bill stack, so I went with him and Alan there.
24:07And I did see him, was it yesterday? I did an afternoon OC, and he went at 3-5.
24:12So that was the highest I've seen him. I pretty much really hadn't seen him before the 3-4 turn.
24:19He seemed to be living there, or maybe right before.
24:22But he's a very wanted man right now, it looks like.
24:26And if they do another preseason game, and he gets peppered again, or makes another big play, I think it's only going to go up.
24:34Yeah. This is one of those things where there's advantages in drafting early.
24:38Sometimes there's disadvantages, right? If you're somebody overweight on Jaden Higgins, who unfortunately just went down today, there's some disadvantages there.
24:45But then there's advantages, right? I mean, DJ Moore has been one of my favorite players to draft this offseason.
24:51I just feel like stylistically he matches really, really well with Josh Allen from that backyard football style, right?
24:58I mean, DJ Moore in Ben Johnson's offense, he's like, you need to be right here at this very spot, at this point in the play.
25:06It's very meticulous. Where with Josh Allen, it's a lot of free flowing because he extends plays.
25:12And that's DJ Moore's game. He is a guy that will freestyle.
25:16He's not the sharpest route runner, but he's somebody who knows how to play backyard football.
25:21And so I feel like they match up very, very well.
25:25And it makes a lot of sense to see DJ go this high.
25:29Because like you said, Allen and his price point, if you are trying to stack him, right?
25:34It's a lot of guys taking him on that 3-4 turn with DJ and Allen.
25:39It makes sense to stack both guys there. So I can totally, totally understand that.
25:44And it's kind of a bummer because you start to see guys that you really love the value on.
25:50And then their price starts to go higher and higher.
25:54And that value is just not there. But it also opens up for other players to maybe go lower, right?
26:00And you start to get guys at price points you feel a little more comfortable with.
26:06Like for me, that's Jeremiah Love, who I didn't feel comfortable going around that 2-3 turn.
26:11But now he's going 3-4 turn. And now I'm more comfortable to go ahead and get some shares of him.
26:17So it kind of washes itself either way. Wash your back.
26:21You wash my back. I wash your back kind of thing.
26:25You know, it finds its way to come back.
26:27It kind of, you know. I'll say one thing on players, you know, and a lot of it's preference.
26:34And, you know, it's like a stock. If there's a stock that you believe in, it's like a blue chip stock that's really good.
26:42And it keeps going up. And you buy it on the way up because it's like an investment you believe in.
26:48This is what you have to do. Like some people are like, well, I got him in the fourth round.
26:55I'm not paying third round prices. I'm like, I don't understand that.
26:59Because, you know, that's why I personally, most of my draft season will be over like come September.
27:05You know, I'll do a couple that first week because the season actually starts very late this year.
27:11But I like to start early and draft early because you get prices and you get builds that you're never going to get.
27:18Like even now, like after the 12th round, there's nothing.
27:22It's really sketch out there. Yeah. Yeah, it is.
27:25And I like that analogy. It's funny. Like I talked to my buddy and because, you know, we invest in stocks too.
27:32And it's like my one buddy is always, you know, we'll take like Apple, for example.
27:37I'm talking to him like three, four years ago.
27:40And I'm like, yeah, like either way, like we'll get a little bit of Apple.
27:45And we're young guys. So, you know, you obviously want to take risk.
27:49You don't want to invest in every blue chip because it's like you have a lot of time to recover.
27:56But it's the same thing with him. It's like, well, you know, it's like it's already at this point.
28:02We got to we got to find things that are going to, you know, triple our value.
28:07Right. And that's what people are looking for so much where people get so caught up in the value of the board
28:15where you have to have some sort of balance with it.
28:18Right. It's like I'll take value when value falls to me, of course, like Lamar Jackson, you know, where he goes.
28:25Sometimes he slips even further. But right now, Lamar Jackson's going at pick 81.
28:30Right. Lamar Jackson's my second ranked quarterback. I typically don't draft quarterbacks high.
28:34But when I'm getting elite talent falling that far to me, like it's hard to pass up.
28:40Right. So those are times where I'll take the value.
28:43And then there's times you got to go up and reach and go pay that price for something that you really like and you care about.
28:51And that's kind of to your point. You know, if you're a big fan of DJ Moore and this price tag scares
28:59you off, then kind of like what you said before, if you buy everyone, then who are you really in on?
29:05And same thing here, like if you're really in on the player, like believe that and don't let other people kind of
29:13shift it, that opinion for you, as well as, you know, don't let the board shift that opinion for you.
29:19But let's go ahead and look at the rest of the board here.
29:23Let's keep it moving. I do want to talk about Parker Washington.
29:27Right. He goes off at the board now in the fourth round.
29:31He did pop up on this like injury. What are your thoughts on Washington?
29:36I know the CMC talk lately, they're saying it's possibly contract related.
29:40Do you think the Parker Washington undisclosed injury where they're telling us, hey, he's going to be back in a week, but
29:47they won't tell us what the injury is and he's day to day.
29:51Do you think it has anything to do with possibly hammering out a contract extension?
29:56Because we have heard about a contract extension for Parker Washington.
30:00And I assumed his ADP was going to shoot up the board once that happened.
30:05But just these continuous days of him stacking and stacking and stacking more days.
30:09Now he's sitting here in that fourth round. But I still love him and I'm still probably drafting him as well.
30:16Do you think there's something to something with this injury?
30:20And are you hoping that we get a little bit of a discount on Parker Washington or is he somebody you're not really drafting?
30:27First, I hope it's more of like a personal reason maybe or something minor.
30:32I do think he's getting a contract before opening day.
30:35You know, it seems like I look everybody says he broke out the last four weeks and he broke out after the
30:42week eight by the offense got geared towards him.
30:45It revolved around him. And that's why when I hear that, I'm like, no, it was 10 games plus the playoffs or whatever.
30:53Nine games plus the playoffs. I've been drafting Parker Washington anywhere as late as the mid sixth.
30:59I've drafted him as high as the three, four turn.
31:02And he is, if not my most owned player, one of my most owned players.
31:07Love that. So I have very invested in Parker Washington.
31:10On the flip side, I do have probably half as many shares as of BTJ.
31:15Because he goes anywhere in the late fifth to early to mid sixth now.
31:20And he's still, look, he was a guy we were drafting like seventh overall last year.
31:25And I still think he's a big talent. I think this is a really good offense.
31:30So I'm in on him. But I am in on Parker Washington.
31:34If this is a serious injury, I might be in serious trouble.
31:38So I'll light a candle for the next week.
31:41And hopefully it's something minor or personal. And again, I do believe when the season kicks off, he will have a new contract.
31:48Yeah, I'm with you. Let's take a look now at a player on Parker.
31:53Well, I do want to add one note and then we'll go to the next player.
31:58We're going to tell him a bit. But one thing to note, too, with Parker Washington being out, it is being reported
32:05that Travis Hunter is still really not playing a ton on offense, which is kind of surprising because we have kind of
32:13a lot of people have fallen into that trap of assuming that Hunter is an injury away from being a full blown, full time offensive player.
32:21And we haven't seen it just yet in these joint practices where he could be getting some really important reps against other teams.
32:29It has not been the case. He hasn't played a ton of offense.
32:33It's mainly been on defense, which is pretty telling.
32:36So I'm curious to see with Parker being out, if maybe that changes depending on how many more days he's out.
32:43But that's one thing that I've taken notice of and I've been interested in.
32:47I saw it today, though. Yeah. I don't mean to cut you off.
32:52But I think it was today they had a joint practice and he was basically like cornerback one.
32:58He had 28 snaps on defense and like only two on offense.
33:01Yeah. So. And it's a little surprising. It could just be that they want him.
33:06Maybe it flips. I don't know if they have a joint practice tomorrow.
33:11Maybe it flips. And they're just trying to get him focused on one side of the ball each day.
33:17I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure they've already had two practices and it's really been majorly on the defense side of the ball.
33:25Now, Bashaw Tootin is going off the board at pick number 60.
33:29The Chris Rodriguez drumbeat seems to be getting a little bit more louder.
33:33It feels like this team believes that Chris Rodriguez is going to be that guy that they want to use at the goal line.
33:41And it was reported that the Jaguars were not happy with, you know, what they had in their short yardage backs last season.
33:48And I don't really get the Bashaw Tootin hype.
33:51I hate to offend you, Matt, because I don't know if you're a Tootin guy, but I am not on the train.
33:59But is ADP falling to possibly six round? Again, comes to that point where I'm OK saying, OK, I'll start taking some
34:06chances on him if he continues to fall a little bit.
34:09Yeah, you can get Tootin. Tootin, like you said, I think on the board here, it's right at the 5-6 turn.
34:16He goes in the mid-sixth round at times. So he is definitely falling.
34:20At one point, it looked like he was rising.
34:23And then Chris Rodriguez came back. I am kind of a Tootin truther.
34:28I do think he is – I think the scenario here is they don't really know what they have in him.
34:35And I think he's going to get a shot.
34:38I do think Chris Rodriguez is involved regardless. And I draft him as well.
34:42His price is somewhere in the 11th round or sometimes early 12.
34:46And I will – you know, I'll hit that button every time.
34:50Yeah. But – and the thing with Rodriguez is he goes back to Cone with Kentucky.
34:55But I think this guy has got like seven receptions in the NFL and, you know, maybe 20 throughout college and everything.
35:02So he's not going to be catching passes. Yeah.
35:05Basial's Tootin – you know, I did like him in college though.
35:09He's a guy that does have the breakaway. He can break tackles and he has the speed.
35:15Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. And I think you hit it on the head where Tootin is going to get his opportunity to win this job.
35:24Right? I think that's really what it's going to come down to.
35:28I think the Jaguars are truly going to give both guys the chance to win this job.
35:33And it's going to be a matter of which guy steps up.
35:37Now, Tootin, I think physically definitely the more gifted player.
35:40I think with Rodriguez, you kind of know what you're getting.
35:44Is that sexy? No. But it's probably something that they feel comfortable that they can trust and they know what they're going to get probably on each play.
35:53It's not going to be a big play, but he's going to fall forward and get you yards.
35:59It kind of reminds me of Zach Charbonnet-Kenneth Walker's situation a little bit where Walker was always the flashy player.
36:06Right? He's the guy that kind of bounces back and maybe has some negative plays, but the pop plays are really, really nice.
36:13Whereas Zach Charbonnet, people are like, why is this guy in the field?
36:17And it's because the guy never loses yards. He might – he'll get you three yards.
36:23He might not get you ten yards, but he'll get you three, four yards, which is what they're looking for.
36:29And LaQuint Allen I think is a big factor here.
36:33He is injured. He did get – didn't play in the preseason game, so he did get the rest, which I think
36:40was a huge tell that they do want to rely on him in the passing game.
36:45But then in practice, like the next practice, he had a soft tissue injury and it sounds like he's out for the entire rest of preseason.
36:54So it's going to be a big opportunity for Tootin to step up and catch passes and earn more work in that role as well.
37:02Interesting note. I forget what I was listening to, but it was somebody – if I was listening to it, it was somebody that I like and respect.
37:11And they made a point that the Jags last year threw 11 passes total to running backs on third down.
37:17So it kind of makes that third down receiving role not that exciting, especially with the quarter receivers.
37:23You know what I'm saying? I mean, it was something that I heard and I was like, whoa.
37:29So, you know, something to think about. I think that is something to think about.
37:34I do want to ask you before we leave the fifth round, Travis Etienne was not a guy that I've been drafting a ton of.
37:42When I looked at Kamara, I just said, man, this guy is going to be involved.
37:48The drumbeat over this offseason since Kamara's came back hasn't been very positive for Travis Etienne.
37:53It sounds like they're very close in a split, though I still believe Travis would get the majority of the work of the two.
38:01But now Kamara is going to miss at least a month, and that could be possibly longer.
38:06He's an older player. It's not like this is a two-, three-year guy who maybe his body recovers a little faster.
38:13This is Alvin Kamara who's been in the league a long time, and I think he's approaching 30 if he's not already.
38:20And so Travis Etienne, his price point reflects, you know, fifth round, 54 overall.
38:25Do you expect Travis Etienne to go higher? Because when I started doing my rankings, now that I know Kamara is going
38:32to be out, I found myself putting Travis Etienne right ahead of Kyron and right behind Javante Williams.
38:38So it would push him into that fourth round.
38:41Are you comfortable taking Etienne that high, or is he somebody you've been avoiding?
38:46And is this something that might change your mind with the Kamara injury?
38:50I mean, going back to a very good point you made, earlier in the draft season, like last month, Etienne was living
38:57in the fourth round, or early fifth at the latest.
39:00Now he's fallen. I've actually used a player that I wasn't getting shares of that in the past week or two.
39:07Now I'm getting shares, because I've got him at 5'10", I think the 5'6 turn.
39:12And that's also a factor of playing in the NFFC.
39:15When these receivers, you know, just keep getting pushed up, or there's that avalanche, that whole third or fourth round is mostly wide receivers.
39:23The running backs are all going to fall to the fifth.
39:27So, you know what, it's not even really Kamara that, I think losing Tyson makes me like him even more, because, you
39:34know, I think he's going to catch more passes.
39:37I don't even think he's really that great of a pass catcher.
39:41But I do think, you know, I like the head coach a lot.
39:45I think he knows how to run an offense.
39:48He runs a high-tempo offense. Only thing in New Orleans that has me down is the Tyson injury, and Shuck seems to
39:55not be having a really good camp. Okay. Yeah, it's a good point.
40:00And, yeah, I mean, you're talking about loss of targets, a lot of loss of targets to Kamara that are going to
40:07be gone for a little while, and Tyson, who's going to miss two months.
40:12So those got to go somewhere. So it's a good point to bring up.
40:16Moving along here, let's talk about Jonathan Brooks, who his ADP has really, really risen.
40:21Now, in this format, I have seen in the FFPC, I think Theo Grevenger pointed out that Brooks went as high as, like, the fourth round.
40:30You know, I think that was a week ago.
40:33Now, format-wise, a little bit different than this format.
40:35And like you mentioned, wide receivers get pushed up the board.
40:39So I don't think we're probably, what, not likely to see that for Jonathan Brooks, him to get pushed up into that fourth round.
40:47But what do you think about his rise? And is this a price point that you're willing to take chances on as well?
40:54Like, if you look at the board here, he's at 6'5".
40:58He was pretty much living at 5'6 turn or just, you know, maybe the next pick.
41:03Usually, whoever had that one was going receivers and then maybe, like, taking, like, a Brooks for the upside shot.
41:10I think the game against the Bills maybe soured some people, which it actually did the opposite for me.
41:16I pretty much leave every draft, if possible, with either a share of Brooks or a share of Blake Corum, because I
41:23want that upside shot on one of these two guys.
41:27I have over 20 shares of each. And I watched that preseason game.
41:31Their offensive line was trash. I know they're missing a couple of guys.
41:35And to me, my whole bet on Brooks is, look, he was very talented.
41:40He didn't really even play that much at Texas.
41:43He got that year after Bijon, and he shined.
41:46But it's his pass-catching ability. And if this offensive line is going to be trash, and from what I remember, the last
41:53year or two, the Panthers could at least run the ball.
41:56They had good running games. Rico Dattle was going off and stuff.
42:00So the passing game is why I'm really all in on Jonathan Brooks and why I think he doesn't fail and actually
42:08is a guy you want on your roster. The quarterback last year had, what, three games where he threw for just over 200 yards?
42:15It was like 205 yards or more, like three times.
42:19Tett McMillan, uber talent, but the quarterback is not good.
42:22The line isn't good. They got to do the dump-off passes.
42:26And all you heard in the offseason is he wants him in the passing game.
42:31I'm watching clips every week of this kid catching passes, and not even just like dump-offs.
42:36He's even going down the field a bit. So I'm going to take a shot on that.
42:41We talk about it on the live streams about, say, building backwards.
42:45Say, like, I wait to the fifth round, hypothetically.
42:48I got DeAndre Swift. I take a Jonathan Brooks.
42:51And then I get my RB3 later on in, like, the eighth round.
42:55I get a Dobbins or a Mason. You know what I'm saying?
42:59I feel strong going in there. I got four wide receivers that are hopefully monsters, or at least three of them, you know?
43:07So, yeah, I'm all in on Brooks. As bleak as Carolina is, I think he's the silver lining.
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45:28Let's go ahead and move back a little bit more to Josh Downs, right?
45:32Recent news with Josh Downs. You have Keenan Allen now signed.
45:36Alec Pierce is... The news with Alec Pierce, Matt, it's all over the place.
45:40I don't know what the heck is going on with Alec Pierce.
45:44It's like, you know, I don't know if they're trying to cover themselves and Steichen's trying to just stay really, really positive
45:51because it feels like we're getting different reports all the time.
45:55He's still not in team drills, but he's moving around.
45:58He looks good. But then a couple days prior, you know, people are all gloom and doom.
46:04And now they go ahead and they sign Keenan Allen.
46:07And so, you know, you can believe it two separate ways.
46:11It's either they're not as comfortable as they thought with Josh Downs being in two wide receiver sets and they, you know,
46:18they gave him a chance in camp to earn that.
46:21And maybe they don't like what they've seen or, you know, they don't really love the timeline with Alec Pierce and they're trying to cover themselves.
46:30They probably, probably missed out on Stefan Diggs, Debo Samuel, those guys waiting this thing out.
46:35And now they bring in Keenan Allen and, you know, we'll see what happens.
46:40But Josh Downs going off the board at 71.
46:43Do you expect his price to move at all with the Keenan Allen news?
46:47Was he a guy that you were drafting at all?
46:50And does this news affect that in your opinion?
46:53Real quick, Alec Pierce. I haven't drafted him at all this year, but he is now.
46:59And I loved Alec Pierce last year. Fantasy, he was awesome.
47:02And I like to bet the receiving props, he was one of the best players in that all year.
47:08Yeah, longest catch kind of thing. Yeah, he would have 60 yards on the first drive.
47:14But now he's actually just talking about like how things change.
47:17As you mentioned, you brought that point up. So I want to piggyback on that.
47:22He started off in like the end of the fifth round, say, early on in draft season.
47:28Then he's been living like around that 6-7 turn.
47:31Now he's going into, he's falling into the eighth round.
47:34I'm starting to see in some drafts. And that's when I'm starting to get interested.
47:39Because even if he's going to come back and maybe say miss, even if he missed a month, even if they put
47:46him on Pup, and I can get a guy with, you know, his upside, then I start getting interested.
47:52But it's just funny. He was a guy that I wasn't going to pay up the fifth round.
47:58Didn't even like him really at the 6-7 turn.
48:01But, you know, he might become a guy that, hey, I'm going to get a couple of shares before the season's over.
48:08Yeah. And so with that note, has Josh Downs' price tag moved up to be too expensive for you?
48:15And do you think that we could get maybe a little bit of a pullback, like you talk about with stocks, a
48:22little bit of a pullback with Josh Downs and his price with the Keenan Allen news?
48:27Yeah. And again, just to be transparent, we talked about Parker Washington.
48:31Josh Downs is probably my second most owned receiver.
48:34So I'm rolling with, you know, a lot here.
48:37But I've been a Josh Downs believer for the last couple of years.
48:41And it just hasn't come to fruition. I believe in the talent.
48:45It's like in Moneyball when Jonah Hill does the thing.
48:48The problem with this guy. The problem with Josh Downs is just opportunity.
48:53When he plays two-thirds of the snaps, he crushes.
48:56And I do believe this year he's getting the opportunity, even with Keenan Allen.
49:00The thing I didn't get, and I think they really had no choice, and they brought Keenan Allen in because of the familiarity with the head coach.
49:09But they needed an ex-receiver to replace Alec Pierce for the time being.
49:13Like a Kayshawn Booty would have been a nice, but they traded all those picks in the source trade last year.
49:20Diggs is probably going to take a dip here.
49:23And I think he went in the last draft maybe like 7-4 or something like that.
49:28And I will buy that all the time. The other thing with Keenan Allen, look, he's going to be a pain in the ass.
49:36Let's not kid ourselves. But his first seven games last year, he was a house of fire.
49:42He had seven targets in every game. His next nine games, he had seven targets once.
49:47The last game of the regular season, he had 13 targets, seven catches for 36 yards.
49:52You know, I kind of think Father Time is catching up to Keenan.
49:57You know, he'll get open. He can get open in this short, intermediate area.
50:01But I think Downs is going to be playing all over the field.
50:05It's a bet I'm going to, you know, die on that hill.
50:09Kind of, you know, it might even be a financial one, but we'll see.
50:14Tell me, I want to selfishly talk about a running back situation.
50:18Get your thoughts. Because I don't know if I'm, you know, there are certain times where you get hyper tunnel vision on a player.
50:26And you just can't stop drafting him because of the price.
50:29For me, that's Rico Dowdle this year. I don't know if he's ever drafting at all.
50:35But Jalen Warren still goes, you know, a whole round ahead of him.
50:39And right now, you know, all reports that I've read is that Rico has looked phenomenal in camp.
50:45I personally think Rico is going to be the lead back here.
50:49I think both guys are going to catch a lot of passes.
50:53I think Rico is going to be a guy that will get a lot of people out there.
50:59I'm still kind of shocked that his price point is where it is.
51:03It's one of my favorite coaches on board. In the best ball format of $150 for NFC on the best ball championship.
51:10I've seen him slip, you know, into the 10th round.
51:13I saw RJ Harvey fall into the 10th round last night, which I know there's a lot of Jonah Coleman love out there right now, too.
51:22But staying on topic here with you and Rico Dowdle, are you a Rico guy?
51:27Because I've called up that down before I was not aware that you were a fan of those guys.
51:33Is Rico a guy that you are a fan of?
51:36I really don't have much Rico, I'll be honest with you.
51:40And it's really probably because I've taken like a Mason or a Dobbins there to be my RB3, you know.
51:46And now I got to get a tight end or add one more receiver or these.
51:52You want to know what it is, too. You just look at this ninth round like you're going around there.
51:58Sometimes you got to be a little aggressive. I know it says they all go in the ninth round, but some of
52:05these guys will go in the eighth. But like a Herbert, a Lawrence, a Daniels, a Williams.
52:11For me, I really have always been a Jalen Warren guy.
52:15But I think everything you said was right. It was every report I hear from everybody and the head coach had him
52:22in Dallas is that he's going to be the lead back.
52:25But it's PPR. Steel is running back about like 100 and something times last year.
52:30I don't know the exact number. Yeah, I think he had 80 on his own last year.
52:36Yes. So I think it was like a 114.
52:39I don't know if that was right. Yeah, it was some insane number.
52:43It was insane. So for me, third down is going to be Warren and he's still going to get all these dump off passes.
52:51Now, I don't have a lot of Warren either, and I've always been a Warren guy.
52:56So I'm really not drafting much Warren. I'm not drafting much Dowdle.
53:00But I do think Dowdle is like probably the last guy on the board to get, you know.
53:06Otherwise, you're just basically an RB2 land or you're going with like a Krosky bill.
53:11I'm not really super excited about this year, especially with the Tunsil news.
53:15And so Dowdle would be like that last line of defense for like, you know, having a starting running back or having
53:22a running back that's at least getting half the share of it.
53:26But I don't have it. But I think everything you said is correct based on all the reports I hear.
53:33So I think maybe both of them can, you know.
53:36Well, at their price point, look, the Pittsburgh Steelers are a really, really interesting team.
53:41It's a very easy team to stack if you like to play best ball.
53:46But really, the price points on the entire offense is dirt cheap.
53:50Mike McCarthy, I do believe that he's going to make this offense better.
53:54Their defense might regress, but they've been regressing. People don't really talk about it a ton, but their defense has regressed a little bit the last few years.
54:03But I overall think that there's just a there's some value.
54:07It's just a matter of picking the right guy here in this offense, even with Pittman and with DK.
54:13I don't find myself drafting either them too much.
54:16But if I am taking one, it tends to be Pittman for me.
54:20But looking at where Rico goes on the board, you know, I get it.
54:25You want to be aggressive and you look at where the quarterbacks.
54:29It's like you're staring at Jaden Daniels on the board.
54:32You don't have a quarterback. Are you taking Rico Dowdle when you've already got three running backs?
54:38It's hard, right? And so this is one of those situations where when you understand the room and you understand where the board is falling, right?
54:46You have to, you know, you just have to play the board and play the environment.
54:51That's why we all it's like it's like the old saying.
54:55Everybody's got to plan until they get punched in the mouth, right?
54:59Like same thing here. Like you have to be reactive a lot of times with the board.
55:04And when value falls, like I said, I mean, it's insane when you look at Jaden Daniels going at pick 100.
55:11But it's just the way this goes. People don't want to – the difference in points per game for the quarterback position is not very high.
55:20But it is crazy to me because the elite quarterbacks, Jaden Daniels could easily finish his quarterback too and give you a massive positional advantage.
55:28And he's still getting pushed down so far. And look, it's not even just the quarterbacks.
55:33Like if I have a RB2 or I've got my RB3 here, if I can get Sam – I mean, Howard Fanning, I would go probably first.
55:42But him or LaPorta? I mean, LaPorta to me is poised for a big year as well.
55:48I mean, they've got a last play schedule. I think that offense bounces back in a big way.
55:54So you got those two guys there. So it's like you're choosing between premium tight ends.
55:59I won't say the elites. We'll leave those for the guys up top.
56:03But I think these guys are pretty special. And I think Fanning has the ability at his age to be one of the best.
56:11But those guys, those quarterbacks, it's like – It's hard to pass up.
56:15I mean, are you really – like you sit there and you say, am I really going to sit here and take
56:22Jacoby Myers right now over possibly a guy that can win me weeks?
56:27Is Jacoby Myers really winning you weeks? Probably not.
56:30You want to laugh about Jacoby Myers? And then look, I think he's a solid NFL player.
56:35I made my bet – on the live stream yesterday with my partner, he mentioned Jacoby Myers.
56:41And I'm like, under no circumstances are we drafting Jacoby – it's not that I don't like the player.
56:47Yeah. You got a solid NFL. But I have all the Parker Washington.
56:51I even have BTJ. I'm like, I've made these bets on the Carolina offense.
56:56I don't want to root for this guy on one team.
56:59I'm sorry. It just – it makes no sense for me.
57:03It's like I'm betting against myself. I just can't do it.
57:07And look, you're in a tournament base. I mean, there is – you don't want to totally go upside and just take every risk possible.
57:15But, you know, sure, sometimes you need a little bit of floor.
57:19I get it. But I'm typically not drafting floor a ton in drafts, especially in tournaments.
57:24And so I totally, totally am with you there.
57:27And Sam Laporta is actually a guy that – I actually have Sam Laporta ranked as my number four tight end this year.
57:35So I love Sam Laporta. So I think it's a great call out too.
57:39I find myself drafting him a ton. Now, we're pretty much winding down here at the end of the show.
57:46So I do want to give you a chance to name one player just that you find yourself that we haven't talked about.
57:53It can be a player, you know, past the top 100.
57:57It can be a guy inside the top 100 that maybe you're higher on than other people or you're not really understanding
58:04why their ADP is so high or so low.
58:07And then I'll give you one of mine as well.
58:10I mean, for me, it's Harold Fanning. Well, I get the offense, the quarterback, and they drafted two hard receivers.
58:17But this kid went ballistic his senior year, what they call duck foot and all this.
58:22He's got duck feet. The guy at David Njoko last year, terrible quarterbacks, terrible offense, had an amazing rookie season, you know.
58:29And I just think he's, what, 21 years old?
58:32I think he only gets better. But again, like I said, there's other tight ends.
58:37Like if you're a Laporta guy, I want to have Laporta as well.
58:41So I can see that. But he would definitely be one of my guys that I just – I think it's a
58:49gift that you're getting here in that range. Yeah, and it goes back to when we talked in the beginning of the show, herd mentality.
58:57Like we don't want to just zig when others zag, right?
59:00I typically – my motto, I typically don't draft tight ends high.
59:04I don't draft quarterbacks high. The only time I do is when a guy slips past his ADP and it's an elite
59:12player and the value is just too hard to pass up and I'll take a chance on him.
59:17But this is an exact reason as to why you necessarily don't have to, right?
59:22I mean, you have guys that could be elite.
59:25I mean, make no mistake about it. Sam Laporta could be elite this year.
59:30Held Fanning could be elite this year. There are cases to be made and these quarterbacks around them could be elite this year.
59:37So it's like why spend that capital on those positions that feel like luxury picks and then you're chasing another position and
59:45you don't want to put yourself behind the eight ball?
59:48That's typically my strategy. I'm going to throw out one guy too and then we'll wrap things up.
59:54But Debo Samuel for me has been a guy that I really like his cost right now.
59:59You talk about there's not a lot of value.
60:02There's not a ton of players once you get past like, you know, the 10th, 11th round, 13th round.
60:09Debo Samuel right now goes off the board to pick 126.
60:12You know, he goes back to the 49ers from weeks one to 11 last year.
60:17He was wide receiver 16 in points per game.
60:20You know, he finds his home back in San Fran.
60:23He did talk a little bit about how his struggles going to Washington, how he just wasn't very happy there.
60:30And he understood that the grass isn't necessarily greener.
60:33He looks to be in really, really good shape.
60:36He's lean. And he also talked a little bit about how when he got that pneumonia, he put on some weight.
60:43And I think that was a major factor, right?
60:46I think he kind of he was in a bad spell, bad spot health wise.
60:51Then the trade rumors came up. He ends up getting traded because he couldn't stay healthy.
60:56And then now he finds his way back to the 49ers.
60:59We were drafting Ricky Pearsall. I was a major, major fan of Ricky Pearsall.
61:04I think you might be a stripling fan. So maybe you're not as high on Debo.
61:09But to me, it's like I'm getting a piece of the 49ers offense with a weapon that they know how to use
61:16in an offense that has a lot of guys that have issues staying healthy.
61:21I'm getting a guy that's in a possibly a top five offense this year at, you know, pick 126, who looked really,
61:28really good last year until he got banged up as well.
61:32Well, the crazy thing is stripling's now going pretty much, you know, seventh round, maybe sometimes in the eighth.
61:38But he's pretty much living in the seventh round.
61:41Strib City has has arrived, at least, you know, in the eyes of the high stake drafters that has.
61:47And the other thing is, you know, like who's remaining like Kittle.
61:51I was worried about, you know, 33 years old.
61:54I wasn't really drafted him early on, but I'm starting to draft him.
61:58He's looking good. And again, I was a big Ricky Pearsall guy.
62:02I was drafted him. You know, he was the guy that my fourth receiver, his price was so perfect.
62:09And, you know, he's gone. So Strib is like now he's been probably one of the biggest movers.
62:14It wasn't that long ago where he might have been going like just past Debo.
62:19So now people, people were made, people made fun of the pick so much.
62:24And now it's like people are playing catch up because they want to get exposure to him so badly because they saw,
62:31you know, the usage in the preseason. And it looked good.
62:35And honestly, that's why I was really harping on like the dates and the format that you use.
62:41If you're going to play best ball, you go to best ball for if you're going to play online championship.
62:47Because if you're doing a week or two, you're using stale prices.
62:51And, you know, you're going to be like, oh, God, this guy's off the board already.
62:56And all you really need is like eight to ten drafts.
63:00You really don't need more than that. Yeah. I guess if you're a degenerate like yourself, you know, you can't stop.
63:07Well said. It's all good. You scratch the itch and it becomes fun.
63:11But this was a good show. It was a lot of fun having you on.
63:16You're obviously going to be here with the Fantasy Empire.
63:19Love, love listening to your show in season. I think you guys.
63:23It's kind of one of those old school vibes where you guys, you know, it doesn't have to be a bunch of guys screaming at each other.
63:32I know there's all these exciting best ball shows with all these young guys.
63:37But you guys really, really break down the process well in season.
63:41And so I think it's a really good show and it's very informative.
63:45So I really find myself enjoying it. So if you guys don't check out the show, make sure you are checking out the show.
63:53And Matt, really, really appreciate it. Good luck this season.
63:56Thank you guys so much for watching. And we'll see you guys next time.
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