KC Concepcion Major Riser - Live NFFC Fantasy Draft
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2 hr 4 min
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Aug 21, 2026
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Fri, August 21, 2026
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Josh JacobsJonah ColemanJonathan TaylorKenneth Walker IIIPuka NacuaTank BigsbyA.J. BrownAmon-Ra St. BrownBraelon AllenCaleb DouglasChris GodwinChris OlaveChristian McCaffreyCyrus Allen
Player analysis
Player insights
A.J. Brown
PositiveValue130:59
AJ Brown is considered the best player in a potential trade involving Zay Flowers and Terry McLaurin, though the source notes that in a start-three-wide-receiver league, the depth of Flowers and McLaurin might be preferred.
Insight pageAmon-Ra St. Brown
PositiveProjection0:30
The source ranks Amon-Ra St. Brown ahead of JSN and Puka Nacua, citing the Lions' highly favorable schedule and his potential to finish as the overall WR1 in fantasy.
Insight pageBraelon Allen
NegativeBust107:19
The source expresses skepticism toward Braylon Allen, noting that despite his phenomenal preseason performance, he was terrible during the regular season last year, leading to a 'been there, done that' feeling.
Insight pageCaleb Douglas
PositiveSleeper125:33
Caleb Douglas is identified as a potential wide receiver one for the Miami Dolphins and a strong sleeper pick in the 17th or 18th round.
Insight pageChris Godwin
PositiveUsage29:21
Chris Godwin is viewed as a PPR machine when playing in the slot, where he has historically generated a 33% target share compared to 21% when lined up wide. The source is not concerned about Jalen McMillan or Ted Hurst impacting his production.
Insight pageChris Olave
PositiveValue13:48
Chris Olave is considered a strong value in the third round, especially with news that Jordan Mims (referred to as Jordan Tyson) is out for two months, potentially clearing a path for Olave's target share.
Insight pageChristian McCaffrey
NegativeInjury6:47
Christian McCaffrey has missed eight days of practice due to calf tightness, with speculation from Mike Florio suggesting a potential holdout related to contract disputes, though the team maintains he will return soon.
Insight pageCyrus Allen
NegativeRole127:24
Cyrus Allen is performing well in camp but may struggle to see significant field time in two-wide receiver sets due to Rashee Rice's blocking ability and Xavier Worthy's role; he serves as insurance for the Chiefs' receiving corps.
Insight pageDemond Claiborne
PositiveSleeper113:21
DeMond Claiborne is identified as an upside play typically going in the 15th round or later, with the source expressing excitement about his potential.
Insight pageDeshaun Watson
PositiveRole136:53
The source leans toward Deshaun Watson being the starter for the Browns to begin the season and believes whoever leads that offense will be phenomenal.
Insight pageEmeka Egbuka
PositiveValue118:34
Emeka Egbuka is viewed as a high-value asset, with the source projecting him as a potential round-one player in one-quarterback formats next year.
Insight pageEmmett Johnson
PositiveBreakout57:12
Emmitt Johnson looked impressive in his preseason debut, earning praise for his performance and potential as a running back for the Chiefs.
Insight pageGreg Dulcich
PositiveValue122:15
Greg Dulcich is recommended as a free, high-value tight end target in the late rounds, particularly for teams needing a second tight end.
Insight pageIsaiah Davis
PositiveValue107:27
The source prefers Isaiah Davis over Braylon Allen based on observed performance, despite acknowledging injury concerns.
Insight pageIsaiah Likely
PositiveProjection55:02
Isaiah Likely is ranked as the TE11, ahead of Jake Ferguson and Juwan Johnson. Despite some nervousness regarding his preseason usage, he remains a high-confidence target who benefits from the Ravens' offensive scheme.
Insight pageJ.K. Dobbins
NegativeUsage49:26
J.K. Dobbins faces a threat to his workload from Jonah Coleman, who is expected to take over the 'between the tackles' role in the offense.
Insight pageJa'Marr Chase
PositiveValue0:24
The source considers Ja'Marr Chase a top-tier target at the 1.03 spot, viewing him as a "slate breaker" who provides elite production despite the potential for a zero-RB build.
Insight pageJadarian Price
NegativeProjection25:36
The source views Jadarian Price as a safe, fine pick in the middle rounds, though they acknowledge a bearish concern that Zach Charbonnet's return could cap his ceiling in a timeshare similar to the Nick Chubb/Kareem Hunt dynamic.
Insight pageJaxon Smith-Njigba
PositiveProjection42:37
In half-PPR formats, Jaxon Smith-Njigba is preferred over Jonathan Taylor due to higher touchdown equity and strong yards-per-reception metrics. He is projected to consistently hit 100-yard games, making him a more reliable asset than Taylor, who is described as a 'go with the flow' player dependent on team wins.
Insight pageJonah Coleman
PositiveSleeper41:23
The source is highly enthusiastic about drafting Jonah Coleman as an RB3, viewing him as a high-upside player to target in the middle rounds.
Insight pagePositiveUsage47:10
Jonah Coleman is viewed as a 'between the tackles' grinder who will eat into J.K. Dobbins's workload. He has received Maurice Jones-Drew comparisons and is considered a high-upside target despite some early struggles in pass protection.
Insight pageJonathan Taylor
NegativeProjection8:46
Jonathan Taylor is viewed as a regression candidate by some, but he remains a consistent late first-round pick in high-stakes drafts.
Insight pageNegativeProjection44:01
Jonathan Taylor is viewed as a 'go with the flow' player whose fantasy production is highly correlated with Colts wins. There are concerns regarding regression, and he is considered a riskier pick compared to younger, high-upside options like Jaxon Smith-Njigba.
Insight pageJordyn Tyson
PositiveValue34:57
Despite an injury that will keep him out for two months, the source views Jordan Tyson as a value pick in the eighth round, noting he is a key piece of a Saints stack.
Insight pageJosh Allen
PositiveValue26:56
Josh Allen is considered an excellent value at pick 39 in the fourth round, with the source noting that elite quarterbacks should be taken when they slip.
Insight pageJosh Jacobs
PositiveProjection12:17
Josh Jacobs returned to practice following a groin injury, and the source views him as the last running back with legitimate top-five season upside.
Insight pagePositiveValue22:32
The source expresses shock at Josh Jacobs' falling ADP, noting he was available in the fifth round at pick 52; the source remains very bullish on his value at that price point.
Insight pagePositiveValue109:58
The source is very high on Josh Jacobs, arguing he should be a round-three player and represents 'awesome value' in the fifth round, despite concerns regarding a groin injury and potential suspension.
Insight pageJustin Jefferson
NegativeValue9:06
Justin Jefferson is considered a fade by some drafters due to concerns regarding the quarterback play of Kyler Murray.
Insight pageJuwan Johnson
PositiveProjection53:43
Juwan Johnson is identified as the primary wide receiver target on the Saints outside of Chris Olave. He is projected to be second on the team in targets, building on back-to-back seasons with 90-100 targets.
Insight pageKC Concepcion
PositiveBreakout32:46
The source identifies KC Concepcion as a 'thriller' player to target in all formats, even if it requires reaching ahead of ADP. He is expected to play a Zay Flowers-like role in the offense.
Insight pageKeenan Allen
NegativeValue115:22
Keenan Allen is viewed as a floor-based pick in best ball formats, likely filling a role similar to Michael Pittman, though the source notes his ADP has fluctuated significantly.
Insight pageKenneth Walker III
PositiveUsage24:03
The source is high on Kenneth Walker, noting that the Chiefs (referring to the Seahawks) have significant vacated carries, providing him with workhorse upside.
Insight pagePositiveValue31:06
In a keeper league format, the source advises keeping Kenneth Walker over A.J. Brown, citing the scarcity of reliable running backs in keeper formats.
Insight pageMarShawn Lloyd
PositiveValue109:01
Marshawn Lloyd is considered a high-upside handcuff option; the source notes he is currently healthy and represents a solid pick in the 13th round.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveValue24:20
Parker Washington is considered an incredible value in the fifth round, as he has been going off the board at pick 46 in recent NFFC drafts.
Insight pagePuka Nacua
NegativeValue2:32
The source expresses concern regarding Puka Nacua due to reported legal trouble, which impacts his standing compared to other top-tier wide receivers.
Insight pagePositiveValue123:24
Puka Nacua is considered a 'smash' trade target in PPR redraft formats, despite injury concerns, because his ceiling is significantly higher than players like Chris Godwin.
Insight pageQuinshon Judkins
PositiveValue118:34
Quinshawn Judkins is considered an intense value for an 11th-round pick in redraft, with an ADP around pick 58; he is recommended as a keep if running backs are expected to be scarce.
Insight pageRJ Harvey
PositiveUsage46:43
RJ Harvey is expected to carve out a significant role as a pass-catching running back, with projections of 4-5 targets per game. While he may only carry the ball six times per game, his improvement in the passing game is the key signal for his fantasy viability.
Insight pageSaquon Barkley
PositiveBreakout24:59
The source suggests Saquon Barkley could have a bounce-back season, potentially breaking fantasy football if he returns to his peak form.
Insight pageTank Bigsby
PositiveValue63:13
Tank Bigsby is a preferred late-round running back target over Alvin Kamara because he offers higher upside as a potential starter if Travis Etienne were to miss time.
Insight pagePositiveValue105:58
The source notes that Tank Bigsby is a potential target for the Saquon Barkley owner in the current draft, suggesting he is being viewed as a valuable handcuff or depth piece as the running back position thins out.
Insight pageTerrance Ferguson
PositiveSleeper121:47
Terrence Ferguson is considered a great pick in round 17, especially given the Rams' success in 13 personnel last season.
Insight pageTerry McLaurin
PositiveProjection130:59
The source is ahead of consensus on Terry McLaurin, ranking him 39th overall and viewing him as a potential round-three player who could provide a ceiling season.
Insight pageTravis Kelce
PositiveValue38:02
The source argues that the market is sleeping on Travis Kelce, noting that if he had scored five more touchdowns last year, he would have been a top-three tight end. He is currently a value at an ADP of 121.
Insight pageZachariah Branch
PositiveSleeper137:19
Zachariah Branch is identified as a boom-type wide receiver target in the middle rounds of the draft.
Insight pageZay Flowers
PositiveProjection130:59
The source is ahead of consensus on Zay Flowers, ranking him at pick 26 and viewing him as a potential round-two or round-three player who could see a ceiling season.
Insight pageFull transcript
Episode Transcript
0:00Hey, Coach and Pete here, NFFC Live, PlayerProfiler. We're streaming it.
0:04We're dreaming it. We're gonna crush tonight. We are here.
0:07Exciting, Pete. We're here. We finally got the 103.
0:10I'm so excited, man. The 103 in this draft.
0:12I couldn't be more pumped up right now. Team one, they're on the clock.
0:17They're on deck. The draft is gonna start very soon.
0:20And I'm so excited. I'm 103. I'm thinking if it's not B.
0:24John and Gibbs, I'm gonna go with somebody like Jamar Chase.
0:27It's 104 pre-show. We had talked about it, Pete.
0:30If it's a 104, I'm considering Amon Ross St.
0:33Brown, but I think gift horse. I'm gonna go with the 103 with somebody like Jamar Chase shy of somebody goes and
0:40tilts the board and does something different. What do you make of that?
0:44Yeah, I don't have a problem with it. I have.
0:48I have it. My rankings have it Puka Jamar, then Amon Ross St.
0:52Brown. So I'm actually with you in that I'm ahead of the market.
0:56I have St. Brown ahead of JSN as well.
0:59But I don't think it's crazy to take St.
1:02Brown even ahead of Jamar. Their schedule is really, really favorable.
1:05It's arguably one of, if not the easiest schedules in football this year with the Lions.
1:10So yeah, I don't think it's crazy. Sometimes you just gotta kind of take your guy.
1:15And especially when it's like a big tournament like this, you kind of have to take risks at times.
1:21So it's also an easy stack. If you take St.
1:25Brown, you can get Laporta, you can get JMO, you can pretty much get everybody except Gibbs pretty comfortably.
1:31So yeah, I'm with it. So just let everybody know the draft has been paused.
1:35I think they're trying to sort something out. Maybe somebody is missing right now.
1:40So we got an admin in the chat. This is how professional the NFFC is.
1:45They're making sure everybody's here. contacting the people, making sure they're here for their draft.
1:498pm Eastern. We are live. Very excited about it.
1:52And something about Amon Ra St. Brown to Pukunikua.
1:55Pete, I had said Amon Ra 4 is who I've got on my mind.
2:00And then you said something about, hey, Puka Nakua, how about him?
2:03And I'm sitting there thinking, Pete, trouble, legal trouble for Puka Nakua.
2:07That's an issue that's out there to where I just sit there and think to myself, you don't have any issue with
2:14the schedule that's going to happen for the Detroit Lions.
2:18You got the number one in on offense. You got regression that can occur for somebody like JSN.
2:23I just see it aligning so well for somebody like Amon Ra St.
2:27Brown to would it be a surprise you if we were to be at the end of the year and they say, all right, Amon Ra St.
2:36Brown, wide receiver one overall in fantasy. He has his best season.
2:40No, and like I said before, I think, you know, you, I have no really issues or concerns because you're looking to win a tournament, right?
2:48I mean, we're here, you know, trying to win this tournament, which is the best ball game.
2:54You know, you have a championship, $30,000 up top to the winner.
2:57You know, you draft in these, in these leagues, right?
3:01There's 12 total people, 12 total teams, right? And then you go into a pool at the end to see who is the highest score for the year.
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3:53So Pete, we see Pukunikua go as a chalk four.
3:56Of course I take Jamar Chase chalk three. JSN pretty chalk, but I would expect team six to go towards Amon Ross St.
4:04Brown here. We shall see Christian McCaffrey still on the board.
4:07What do you make of Christian McCaffrey in this tightness, this soreness, the electric substation, things not looking good.
4:13Panic mode. We're a couple of weeks out from the start of the NFL season.
4:18Pete, are you worried? What's the barometer level one to 10?
4:22What are you sweating as far as CMC? Yeah.
4:25I mean, CMC hasn't practiced in eight days and there was Mike Florio came out.
4:29It's in speculation that he believes that CMC might be kind of holding out due to the Gibbs and B.
4:36John contract disputes. And I think it's very possible that that, that is the case here with CMC as he's getting up there in age.
4:44He did get some more, you know, he did get some more money added onto his deal a few years back.
4:50But, excuse me. We know the deal with CMC.
4:53If CMC is healthy, you know, he's going to give you a top five season, right?
4:58There's players here in this first round that we can't guarantee that, right?
5:03That you're spending high premium on draft capital. So, like, there's a world where, so we'll see.
5:08But it is an undisputed injury. They said it was tightness.
5:11Originally, now Coach Shanahan saying, at least we know he would have practice.
5:16We know he'll be on the field soon. And whether it is not to dispute or not, clearly we're not getting a discount.
5:23So there we see Christian McCaffrey goes team six.
5:26Amon Rock goes seven. Janty and JT go back to back.
5:29We continually see Janty get pressed earlier into round one.
5:33You love to see it. Jonathan Taylor, I think people expect somewhat of a regression candidate for him.
5:38But I don't think people are shy in the late part of round one.
5:43We see Justin Jefferson go team 10. And he can be a little bit of a fade for some people due to
5:50the fact that Kyler Murray, not everybody has the most faith in him.
5:54So how do you feel about this back end of round one here as James Cook goes at the 111?
6:00What player were you talking about? I was just reading one of the comments really quick.
6:05So I missed that last part. Yeah, man, you're sounding good now.
6:09What do you make of this back half of the first round?
6:13Starting with Janty at eight, Taylor Jefferson Cook. Yeah, this is this is how it typically goes is how I expect it.
6:20I have to be honest, like so lately I did a show the other day and I was talking about just each each round of the draft.
6:29And we started talking to me and John. And we were saying how after like round two round, you know, after the
6:36first two rounds, if you don't have a running back, like you're kind of screwed, man.
6:41Like it's you're really chasing and you're really banking on some some good fortune, some good luck, Jay.
6:47And so that's why I don't really mind like this turn here.
6:50Like this is how it should go. Right. Like you're seeing now Janty, Taylor Cook, Chase Brown, Kenneth Walker, Amar and Hampton
6:57have all gone in these last, you know, eight picks and two wide receivers, Jefferson and Lamb.
7:03I mean, Saquon Barker goes off the board now.
7:06Now, keep in mind, though, this is a third round reversal.
7:09So it is going to come back to this side of the board and it's a start three wide receiver, Jay.
7:16So this is a little bit of a different format than, again, what's normal where I still want to anchor down.
7:23I still think you probably need to take a wide receiver here.
7:26But we're in the one oh three spot, Jay.
7:29So that's when running back starts to kind of thin out.
7:33So it's going to be interesting to see who is left on the board.
7:37Let me ask you, Josh Jacobs. OK, who I don't expect him to go in this round, but he did return to practice today.
7:45And Jacobs was dealing with this groin injury. He returned to practice today, which was an encouraging sign.
7:51I have Jacobs as like the last running back that I feel comfortable saying, hey, that's my RB one.
7:57And I'd be like, OK, that's like just at the very end of it.
8:01And I'm not even including like like Brees Hall, Javante, those guys.
8:05I like Javante. I like those guys. But like Kyron, if those guys are RB one this year, you really, really got
8:12to hope and pray that they can give you a top 12 season because I don't see top five in the cards for them.
8:20I could see Josh Jacobs giving us a top five season.
8:23All right. On the clock, Pete, do you want Drake London, Malik Neighbors or Chris Olave?
8:28I definitely don't want Drake London. So for me, it would be to be between Olave and Neighbors.
8:34You're definitely not getting Neighbors on the way back.
8:37Neighbors went back. He went. So I'm going to say Chris Olave with this injury.
8:42Jordan Tyson, you feel like he's a good pick.
8:45Who else is available? We got 30 seconds. So we can talk.
8:48Derrick Henry, Jeremiah Love, Devonta Smith, Emeka Ibuka, Trey McBride, Save Flowers.
8:52Brees Hall. Brees Hall is available. Yeah, I mean, it would be between Olave for me and Derrick Henry.
8:58So that would be my picks if I was going to take one of them.
9:03But go with your gut. So as you were positioning prior to that pick, we'll have a little bit of time now
9:10because we have the third round reversal that you spoke to.
9:14We've been on the benefit of the other side where we've had pick 10 and 11 in the first three respective drafts we've done together, Pete.
9:22And we have that benefit of, hey, the draft gave us something, a gift in the early part of round three.
9:29That's kind of the fun part. Whereas the beginning part of the draft, we have to consider what our build is and we're at the mercy.
9:37Because I went Jamar Chase, there was a run of those running backs.
9:41And to your point, me going Crystal Lave, I like that pick.
9:45But now I may be cornered into the fact that I may be a zero running back team and we may have to do some catch up.
9:54And it may be some bulk share of maybe it's guys like Quinchon Judkins.
9:58Maybe it's guys like a David Montgomery and a Jadarian Price that I have to start patching it together.
10:04Jonathan Brooks. It's not the prettiest thing. But again, that's at the cost of I got two elite premier players in Jamar Chase, who is a slate breaker.
10:13And then Crystal Lave, who we've gotten the news about Jordan Tyson being out two months, ramping up for October.
10:19I don't even know if he's going to be ready by then.
10:23We may be having the most pure run out for somebody like Crystal Lave.
10:28And he's presenting a value to me at this stage of the draft.
10:32Granted, I'm sure there's people of third round Crystal Lave is out there, but there's ripple effects of how we build these teams.
10:39What do you make of the start here? And do you think I am kind of being cornered into zero RB?
10:46Yeah, somewhat. And then there's some questions here, so I want to pull them in just a second.
10:52But to answer what you're pointing out, the nice thing about this format, it is best ball, right?
10:57So you don't like it kind of saves us a little bit if we do get like the Quinchon Judkins, Rico Dowdle,
11:04Trevion Henderson, Ramander Stevenson type of build. Like, at least we know we're getting solid starters and we don't have to pick which one to start every week.
11:13We're in a managed redraft league. It becomes more frustrating when it's those kinds of guys when we don't have that elite guy.
11:21And it's just a mix of like three guys where we have to mix interchange which one we're starting each week and we're playing matchups.
11:29So that's one point there. I do want to grab some chats really quick from Kyle.
11:34And then I think it's Frankenstein fees or something like that.
11:37I don't know. But Kyle said, and I'll give this to you, Jay.
11:41Do you keep Josh Allen, AJ Brown, or Kenneth Walker?
11:45I don't have a first, second, or third, 12-man, half PPR.
11:48He said that those three I mentioned are dynasty players.
11:51I found I can only keep one. So I assume he means keeper players.
11:56And he's asking Josh Allen, Brown, or Kenneth Walker.
11:59Doesn't have a first, second, or a third half-man PPR.
12:02I guess I'm trying to – Yeah, throw a little more context to this.
12:06Because if this is super flex, it's likely going to be Josh Allen regardless of the price.
12:12Yeah. And if it's a late-round pick, which granted, ADPs last year, probably the cheapest player last year would have been Kenneth Walker.
12:19And you're probably going to go, what, fifth-round Kenneth Walker as a keeper in that spot if it is round-dependent and it's single quarterback.
12:27So just throw us a little more details in the chat.
12:30And when he says dynasty, do you mean keeper?
12:33And then when you're talking about first, second, or third pick, if it is dynasty, you're talking like rookie picks?
12:39Or are we talking your actual keeper picks? So just clarify that for us.
12:44And then, Jay, start kind of looking at the board here.
12:47We're going to come back to you to get your thoughts on what you're thinking of.
12:53But I'm going to pull this question. And it said from Fran, he said, is it just a coin toss between Hampton, Walker, Brown, and Barkley?
13:01Who's your favorite of that group? For me, Jay, it's really been Walker and Brown are kind of one and two.
13:08It's been Brown for a long time. Now it's kind of Walker.
13:11I don't really feel there's much of a difference between either.
13:15I'm fine with either guy. But I think those guys are clear ahead for me.
13:20And then I think Hampton and Barkley. I actually have Barkley ahead of Hampton, Jay.
13:24I do want to talk a little bit about that situation with the Chargers offensive line in a second here.
13:31But you're up on the clock. You can answer his question because I think you prefer Hampton, if I'm not wrong, Jay,
13:38because we did do a video on this recently.
13:41And it was between Chase Brown, Kenneth Walker, and Amarion Hampton for round two backs.
13:46And you picked Hampton. Is it still Hampton for you?
13:49God. While I'm on, let me go on the clock real quick.
13:53Okay. Emeka Buka has fallen to me. But Jeremiah Love is here in the third.
13:57I feel like that's a gift because of what's going on with the injury.
14:02And there's a few more receivers who I like.
14:05You say I go Love, right? Yeah, I do.
14:08I've been down on Love, but Love's like my 33rd ranked player.
14:11And so the injury doesn't move him down much more.
14:15I was already down on him compared to – this is a price that I want to pay.
14:20Yep. And we've already gotten Emeka Buka before, so I'm happy with that.
14:24But my God, this can under him. Hampton. There goes Emeka Buka.
14:28That's fine. That's okay. It's meant to be. We spoke it into existence because guess what?
14:33That person probably takes Jeremiah Love. I have a couple other people that are available to me on the wraparound because now
14:40we're wrapping around and you love to see it.
14:43But Hampton, Walker, Brown, Barkley, I love Kenneth Walker this year.
14:47The Chiefs have the most, I believe, vacated carries at the running back position.
14:51If the offense is going to run through them, I see a case for him.
14:56Chase Brown, you've made a beautiful case for him, Pete.
14:59Why wouldn't Saquon Barkley just have a bounce back, dead cat bounce season from two years ago?
15:05And then he breaks fantasy football when he does something like that.
15:08And Hampton actually may look like the most time-shary type of running back of this bunch.
15:14So I love me some O'Meara and Hampton. This is where you really want a lot of shares of different formats because
15:21it's such a chunk from Ash and Janty all the way through about Devon Achan in a lot of formats clumping into round two.
15:28Yeah. It's about to come away. It's like Pokemon, got to catch them all.
15:33All these running backs, you just cannot get enough of in one draft or five drafts.
15:38It's like you just need more drafts. Inject it into your veins, man.
15:42I hope that answers the question. While we're on the clock, though, I got Ted Arora, McMillan, Garrett Wilson, and Travion Henderson, Cam Scadbo.
15:50What do you think? I'm a little lower on Henderson now with the reports of the usage with Stevenson and Henderson.
15:56We've gotten a decent amount of exposure to him, too.
16:00And he's fallen a lot in these drafts. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a chance he's there mid-next round.
16:06So Henderson, I'm out on. Who are the other guys?
16:09Tet and who? Ted Arora, McMillan, Jamison Williams. We got Terry McLaurin.
16:13What about – is Josh Allen still available? Yes.
16:16Should I go with him? I don't really take quarterback high, but, I mean, he's falling here in the fourth round, Josh.
16:23Josh Allen, I have a rule where it's like – I mean, when the elite quarterback slip, you got to take him.
16:30That's a really nice value at pick 39 for Josh Allen.
16:33I'm going to go with it. Something different. It's not my norm, so I'm going to veer venture.
16:39It's way less pressure. DJ Moore is looking like DJ Moore and not DJ Les.
16:44He is a stacking partner. I imagine he'll go between now and then.
16:48If not, I take the gift that's there. But we know you can rattle down some other players in the Bills offense.
16:55You don't have to permanently stack in all these formats.
16:58You can get cumulative points. So, yes, there is a Dalton Kincaid later.
17:02But we can also speak to the fact that I'm setting up for a Tyler Shuck.
17:07I'm setting up for a Joe Burrow. And you're a Goff too, Jay.
17:12Exactly. Oh, well, no, you didn't take Sam Brown.
17:15You took Chase. Yeah, we talked. I got you so far down that line.
17:19But, yeah, I like that. And the pressure is off on me at quarterback.
17:23Somebody who can – you don't necessarily need correlation with Josh Allen.
17:27He can have a 30 to 40 burger where he spreads the ball around and there's two touchdowns up the gut.
17:34And there's not a lot of pressure. But funny enough, I had Tedaro McMillan on the clock there.
17:40Jameson Williams we spoke to. And they were the very two next picks.
17:44So, cannot say enough about the NFFC format, Pete, how sharp everybody is.
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18:04Like, who doesn't love that, man? So, that's a great deal.
18:07And these are sharp drafters. So, been a lot of fun these last few weeks, Pete.
18:13Probably one of my favorite things is it's the Wild West at certain points.
18:17So, you never know what to expect. Some think – there goes DJ Moore.
18:22Yeah. You don't know what's going to happen. You get sniped here and then you snipe other people.
18:27It's a whole lot of fun. So, it is.
18:30It is a lot of fun. I do want to mention one thing with Hampton too because I did put this out
18:37there and I think people are overrating the Chargers just a little bit, Jeremiah.
18:42Look at this offensive line for a second. I'm going to go through it really quick.
18:47Rashawn Slater recovering from a ruptured patella tendon who we've seen a lot of guys.
18:52It's very hard injury to come back from. He's already suffered a setback in his mispractice in the past week.
18:58They have Kato Awaseka at left guard who I definitely pronounced his name wrong.
19:02He's a UDFA who just has 11 starts in six seasons.
19:06He's their starting left guard, Jay. Tyler Biotish gets carted off at practice today.
19:10He got rolled up on pretty bad. It didn't look good.
19:14Cole Strange right guard, former first round pick, Jay.
19:17But this is his fourth team in his five-year career.
19:20So, it hasn't come nearly as planned for Cole Strange.
19:23And then Joe Walt coming off of ankle surgery at right tackle.
19:27Like, there are some question marks here. And I know McDaniels is a really nice bump.
19:32But, you know, I think we have pushed them up a little high in terms of the pricing.
19:38And I'm interested to see how the market reacts as we get closer and closer if Biotish is out.
19:44So, I wanted to make a note on that because we're talking Hampton before.
19:48And I think it's worth noting because I don't really see many people talking about it.
19:53Everyone assumes that this offensive line is just going to be better.
19:57But we're banking on Rashawn Slater, you know, coming back and being the guy.
20:02And they don't really have much depth behind this offensive line.
20:05So, I'm a little concerned about that, Jay. I don't know what your thoughts are.
20:10But is that something that's crossed your mind yet?
20:13And then we're going to get to Smitty. We'll get to some of these other questions.
20:18You know, but what are your thoughts? I mean, is that something that you've looked at?
20:23And do you have any thoughts on this Chargers offensive line in general?
20:27Yeah, a lot of that news came pouring in today with the Chargers offensive line.
20:32And it just gives you nightmares of last season.
20:35And you have to think beyond just talent, what helps with offensive lines?
20:39It's continuity and year-over-year overlap where the players get snapped amongst each other.
20:43And that shuffling around, there's players who can play other positions.
20:47But that continuity is going to be disrupted. They are learning a brand-new offense with Mike McDaniels.
20:52So, I think that has to be factored. And when you're granular enough at the top, that can shuffle the pins for,
20:59all right, let's shuffle Chase Brown ahead. Let's shuffle Saquon Barkley ahead.
21:03Let's shuffle Kenneth Walker ahead. Hey, I remembered all four running backs in that scenario.
21:08So, it's so cool how granular this is. And this is why we get sharp to if you're drafting on Labor Day
21:15in your redraft, where the baseball looks like a beach ball and it looks like it's on a tee because you just are loaded with information.
21:23That we've been doing these reps since January, Pete, when some of the first Dynasty startups, some of the first best ball contests drop.
21:31And you're just going all through the Dynasty phases, the rookie class, hot best ball summer, everything that we're doing up to today.
21:38All the training camp information that is just a fire hydrant of information.
21:42And we're adjusting. And that's just how sharp it is.
21:45A few months ago, you might have said, yeah, I'll put O'Marrion Hampton head up there.
21:51But now with this little bit of information, we have to just be malleable on the fly and quick.
21:57Just like Chris Alave, we take in round two.
21:59Well, that's a way different Chris Alave late round two pick than it was just a few days ago because of what's
22:06now happened and crystallized with the information we have in Jordan Tyson.
22:10Yeah, I'm with you there. Just for the board's sake on the audio side, just so that you're aware.
22:16So Jeremiah and myself, we have Jamar Chase, Chris Alave, Jeremiah Love, Josh Allen.
22:21Josh Allen falls to the fourth round, so hard to not pass up.
22:25It's kind of like the Lamar Jackson pick for me a couple weeks ago when we were on here live, Jay.
22:32I do got to say, too, Josh Jacobs, we talked about him returning to practice.
22:36He goes in the fifth round here, Jay, at pick 52.
22:40I still am very shocked with the price for Josh Jacobs and how he has fallen.
22:45So I'm very, very much loving the fact that the market's still not very in on Josh Jacobs.
22:51You're coming up with your pick. Let's take a quick step back.
22:55Let's take a quick break. We're going to answer these questions when we come back.
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24:02All right. We are back. Jay, you are on the clock.
24:05You were on the clock. Looks like you just made your pick.
24:09So talk to us a little bit about the selection you made.
24:13And I actually love this pick. Well, I'm salivating here.
24:16I'm sitting there just one pick away. We go to the break.
24:20I'm like, hey, let's get us some Parker Washington.
24:23I have Parker Washington now in round five. I think that's the second time we pulled the trigger on him in round five.
24:30We were on the other side of the board.
24:33Oh, there goes Joe Burrow. Oh, what will I do?
24:36Somebody took Joe Burrow on me, and they don't have him stacked with anybody.
24:41Andre Yoshivas is all out there for you. On the comeback around, I was not considering Joe Burrow.
24:46I have advantage with somebody like a Josh Allen.
24:49So while we're on the clock, Jadarian Price, Jordan Tyson, Tyler Warren goes.
24:53I would have liked that. Marvin Harrison Jr., Bucky Irving, BTJ.
24:57Any of those names stick out to you. Give me the running backs again.
25:01We've got Jadarian Price, and that's about it right now, man.
25:05It's Bucky Irving and Jadarian Price. Yeah, big tear gap it sounds like.
25:09I mean, I don't want to chase these guys.
25:12It sounds like the receivers are better. Go over the receivers.
25:15You've got about 15 seconds left. Marvin Harrison, Jordan Tyson, DK Metcalf, Brian Thomas.
25:20Yeah, I don't mind taking Brian Thomas if you think you might want to take a shot on T-Law as a stack.
25:27You take Jadarian Price. That's totally fine, too. I really wasn't sold on anybody in that spot.
25:32It's really hard sometimes when I'm not visually seeing who's there.
25:36But Jadarian Price feels safe. It feels like a totally fine pick, especially if you feel like there's a pretty sizable tear drop-off right after him and Bucky.
25:45So part of my thinking is instead of compounding the advantage that I think I have at wide receiver, I have my
25:52three receiver spots filled, and then it's two running back spots that you have to fill.
25:57Love and Price, funny enough. Ha-ha. Bradley Stalder, shout out.
26:00Notre Dame running backs. You have Love and Price.
26:03I feel so much pressure off. If I sell the story of it's all Jeremiah Love, it's all Jadarian Price.
26:09I've got two stalwart backs who, you know what, later in the draft we can take upside cuff, flex cuff type players at the running back position.
26:18And I feel less pressure at the quarterback position.
26:21I got, in my eyes, our eyes, a QB1 in all formats.
26:25And we got them in the fourth round. Even though we drew blood with the first quarterback, we got them in the
26:32fourth round, which I guess there should be a run on quarterbacks, too.
26:36And while that is happening, we'll have opportunity to attack some of the other positions.
26:41And the receivers, I thought to myself with who was on the board when we're talking about Marvin Harrison Jr., Brian Thomas
26:48Jr., Jordan Tyson, DK Metcalf, Cortland Sutton. As my fourth receiver versus getting my second running back, I felt like I had better advantage.
26:55And it's weirdly enough, Jalen Warren and Jonathan Brooks go.
26:58So Jonathan Brooks was on my periphery because I knew on a 20-gap repeat he would not come back.
27:05But I like a lot of what's going on with Jadarian Price.
27:08I'm not falling for the quote-unquote banana in the tailpipe with George Helani.
27:13Now, I will say, and I've talked about this before on other shows, Pete, and let me know how you feel about it.
27:20I think this is going to be a lot like the Cleveland Browns years ago where Nick Chubb, everybody said, oh, Kareem Hunt, eight-game suspension, it won't matter.
27:29It'll be irrelevant. They'll have a bye week. It'll be like week 10.
27:33It won't even matter. What happened at the end of the season and then the next season following?
27:39Timeshare stuff. Rotation on the running backs. No full bell cow workload for Nick Chubb.
27:43There are three touchdowns rushing out there. One of them went to Kareem Hunt.
27:48The ceiling just wasn't there. I see that happening when Zach Charbonnet returns.
27:52So tell us, Pete, what do you make? I want the bullish angle when I click a Jadarian Price.
27:58But my bearish side tells me to a degree that Zach Charbonnet is going to come in and just kind of do
28:05what Kareem Hunt did years ago to Nick Chubb, cap the ceiling, not make it a bad backfield, but he's going to cap the ceiling.
28:13What do you make? Prognosis in your eyes on Charbonnet and how things will play out in Seattle?
28:19Yeah, I mean, Charbonnet, it really I'm not going to let Charbonnet stop me from drafting a running back first round in round six.
28:27A first round running back round six. I'm not really in love with Price just in general.
28:32But I mean, at this price point, like I find myself totally taking shares of him.
28:37You know, this is an offense that there's two sides of the coin on one side.
28:42Kubiak is gone. So there is a possibility that this offense does take a step back.
28:47I mean, I don't think people are really highlighting it enough.
28:51Now, new OC did come out and say that they don't he doesn't want to change really much of anything and he wants to repeat things.
28:59So, you know, we'll we'll have to see. We'll have to wait and see if the offense does take a step back.
29:06Now, we are have a couple of picks before you.
29:09Let's hammer out some of these questions really quick because the chat has been waiting.
29:14We got 21 people here on YouTube. We got a talker on Twitter.
29:18He said, how are we feeling about Godwin this year?
29:21I was a maker. No evidence. And especially for you, I've heard that they mentioned a lot this year.
29:27I'm a big fan of this guy. Not to overanalyze it.
29:31I don't know how to go too far in depth, but I've got a right.
29:36I said a six. Godwin this year. I really like him.
29:39I think he's just a PPR printing press machine out of the slot.
29:43Chris Godwin will generate 33 percent target share in his career versus I think something like 21 percent out wide.
29:50So if we get somebody like a Chris Godwin to his benefit share in the slot with Baker Mayfield, a motivated, healthy Baker Mayfield, the ceiling is roof.
29:59And as much as I love him at Kobuka, that toe could really be problematic, especially eating into the first month of the year.
30:06What's the benefit of an older player like Chris Godwin?
30:10Well, they look great. Tony the Tiger in September, those first few weeks where they've had the most amount of rest.
30:16They haven't gotten banged up. So especially for early rate, I really like Chris Godwin for the entirety of the year.
30:23I absolutely love Chris Godwin. I'm not worried about Jalen McMillan or Ted Hurst taking away from Chris Godwin.
30:29I see Jalen McMillan and Ted Hurst benefiting and pushing up this offense and making it better, having it be a deeper layer team.
30:37Kenneth Gainwell, of course, I think Baker Mayfield was speaking about how great Kenneth Gainwell is.
30:42So there's a lot of goodness on this team for some fancy outcome.
30:46So I'm thrilled, happy, excited for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
30:49And Smitty, I really like what you're saying about Chris Godwin.
30:53And I'm in on him this year. I think he's just a good pick to just generate great PPR goodness in all formats.
31:00Beautiful. I will get to Kyle's real quick here.
31:03He said it is single quarterback, Josh Allen, A.J.
31:06Brown, Kenneth Walker. He can keep one of them.
31:09Forgetting about everything else, the format seems a little strange, but we do know it's single quarterback and he can keep A.J., Kenneth Walker or Josh Allen.
31:17He doesn't know who else is going to keep, who else are going to be kept.
31:22And so the values are kind of all over the place.
31:26Just from a standpoint of A.J. Brown, Kenneth Walker, I'm probably keeping Kenneth Walker over A.J.
31:31Brown just because I expect running backs in most formats where there are keepers.
31:35Running backs will probably be kept and there's a good chance there's not many and you don't want to get left behind or playing catch up.
31:44So that's my quick advice there. Jay, I'm going to give you this question.
31:48You start looking at the board, though. I'm going to read off.
31:52Start figuring out who you're going to pick. Let me read this question off.
31:57And then actually, why don't you want to we'll hold off on Nexus real quick.
32:01Talk about what's left on the board and what your thoughts are, because you're you're up in one pick.
32:07So let's talk about that first and then we'll get to Nexus and we'll get to Kyle as well.
32:13Yeah, I'm really excited, Pete, of all the players in the queue that we have.
32:18There's still plenty of talent on the board. And did they go in front of me?
32:23Blake Corum just went. The screen is going to disappear and I'm up.
32:27I'm on the clock. And look, I love this player.
32:31And I see this is going to be crazy.
32:34This is jerking, yanking the steering wheel against the entirety of the draft board.
32:38It's movement in real time. Stimulus to us watching football on this weekend.
32:42And who is the thriller player that you want to come away with all your drafts?
32:47I don't care if you got to get them two rounds ahead of ADP, whatever format you're playing in, in your redraft streets, in your best ball streets.
32:56It is going to be Casey Concepcion and everybody else can suck it.
33:00Wow, Casey, this is high at 80. Pick 82.
33:03I have Casey Conception at 97, which is ahead of consensus.
33:0782. I'm totally OK with it, though. These formats, you have to really go ahead and reach up and go grab your guy.
33:14And if you like him, you take him. Right.
33:17We've gotten some great values. Parker Washington, Jay, your pick of him.
33:21Parker Washington was an incredible value. He's going off the board at 46 in the last seven days on NFFC.
33:27And you got him at practically like pick in the 60s.
33:31So you got a good value there. And then you reach up and go get Casey, which maybe you overpay a little bit on the ADP.
33:39But you don't know if you're going to get him on the way back, to be completely honest with you.
33:45Not on the way back on the turn here.
33:48But when it goes and snakes back to that ninth round, there's a good chance you don't get him because of this hype.
33:56I love what I saw from Casey. I love what Todd Monkens plans are with him.
34:01It seems like they're going to use him in that Zay Flowers kind of role, which is what they hinted at.
34:07So excited about that for Casey. And I really liked the usage and the utilization.
34:12And I actually kind of worry a little bit about Harold Fannin.
34:16Harold Fannin could be a guy, Jay, that maybe thrived off of not a lot of great competition around him.
34:22And there's a lot of talent in the Browns skill position group now.
34:26So that's something to monitor and something to think about.
34:30But you're on the clock here again. You take Casey Conception.
34:33Godwin goes off the board right ahead of you.
34:36So does Michael Wilson, Ja'Cory Kroski-Maripo, Nix. Where are you thinking here?
34:40You've got two running backs in Jeremiah Love. We've got four wide receivers.
34:44And we have Josh Allen at quarterback. I think I can wait a little bit at tight end.
34:50Marvin Harrison Jr., or do I lean into Jordan Tyson layering, understanding that I can get him at a discount here in round eight?
34:57And then maybe it sets up for a stack share with the Saints, but I'm getting Jordan Tyson.
35:03I'm sacrificing two months. Is that too much or should I go Marvin Harrison Jr.?
35:08I don't think it's too much. I think sometimes you want unique builds.
35:12So if you like it, go get it. All right.
35:15I'm setting myself up. I'm taking a value dip.
35:18And it's funny. Maybe I'm swapping the value that I had for Casey Concepcion with Jordan Tyson.
35:24He's going to be on the shelf, but I don't have to worry about when to start Jordan Tyson.
35:30Ideally, if he comes back in October, those two months is really just one month of the season.
35:35That can be the cope that I tell myself.
35:38I feel like I'm getting a value dip in somebody like a Jordan Tyson.
35:43We've seen now I have Olave and Tyson. Even if I don't get Tyler Shuck, I have share of the Saints offense.
35:50I'm really loaded at wide receiver. And I have four baller wide receivers, two good running backs.
35:55I feel like I can wait at tight end a little bit.
35:59I have the best quarterback in the league. For fantasy.
36:02And right now I like how the team is going.
36:05I'm not pushing. I'm not pressing in any manner at the moment.
36:09So what do you think? Yeah. I mean, look, Tyson, the past week, he's going off the board at pick 73.
36:16So this is still a value for where he's gone.
36:19Now I do expect the market to continue to drop him and drop him.
36:24I think he probably settles closer to like 110 area, 100 to 110.
36:28But we're talking about the stack here. You got Chris Olave.
36:31You got Jordan Tyson. You could easily potentially get Chuck even maybe on the way back.
36:36And then you also have the possibility of going and getting Jawan Johnson.
36:41So this is an easy team to stack. I don't have issues with it at all.
36:46Do you have a question for you though? Right.
36:48We look at the tight end position. We have Brock Bowers, Trey McBride, Colson Loveland, Tucker Craft, Sam Laporta, Tyler Warren.
36:55Those are the tight ends that have gone off the board.
36:59You do have the potential to stack Kincaid. Are you high on Kincaid this year?
37:03Is he somebody that you're on your radar so you can get a stack with Josh Allen?
37:09Or are you sitting here saying, yeah, like you said before, you don't really need to stack Josh Allen.
37:15And you'd like to if you can, but it's not necessarily a must and you don't want to maybe press to go
37:22get some maybe not as great players just to force that stack.
37:26That's a great question because right now as it sits, Kyle Pitts is still on the board.
37:31Harold Fannin Jr. still on the board. Harold Fannin Jr.
37:34could be accompanied with a Brown stack. And that could be a diversion of either Watson or Shador Sanders, depending on who
37:41we think is going to take that job. I would like your opinion on that.
37:46I think it's going to be Deshaun Watson. But reading on the board, who's left in the queue at the tight end position?
37:54It's Pitts. It's Fannin. There's George Kittle, Dalton Kincaid, Jake Ferguson, who is a target magnet.
37:59We have spoke a lot off air about Travis Kelsey.
38:02If he was a top five tight end last year, Travis Kelsey, with just five touchdowns, just on this one stat alone.
38:09If you get five more touchdowns, double digit touchdowns, 10 touchdowns next year for Travis Kelsey.
38:14He could be tight end three. It's just wild how so many people are just sleeping on him.
38:20And he is buried. Pick 121 in ADP. Isaiah Likely.
38:23There's so many value plays. Dallas Goddard. We drafted one of the teams that you had.
38:28Mark Andrews is on the board. So, again, as we're trying to build this team, there's no tight end premium.
38:34If this were another platform where it had a little extra juice to the tight end, I think we would be sitting there, Pete.
38:42Now, that's not to say, for the person who's getting Bowers round two, had Bowers come back to me with the second pick.
38:49Chase Bowers and get positional advantage? Absolutely. Absolutely. But you don't press.
38:53Essentially, if you get it, you're happy. If you don't get it, you're just cool as a cucumber.
38:59Yeah. We don't want to press stacks too much here.
39:02Going off the board, for those on the audio side, Rico Daddle, Tony Pollard, Romeo Dobbs are the last three guys off the board.
39:10Alec Pierce goes off the board. His ADP has been slipping.
39:13They're now saying that they think he's going to play week one.
39:17They did sign Keenan Allen last night. Josh Downs also goes right behind Alec Pierce.
39:22So very interesting. I've moved Alec Pierce down in my rankings.
39:25He's now pick 105, a ranking of 105. I'm not really clicking on him.
39:30I don't find myself doing that very often. Let's grab some of these questions real quick because we have a little bit of time for your next pick.
39:39Let's go to Nexus who said, hey, guys, I have a question.
39:43I drafted Jackson Dart in round eight. Majority of the quarterbacks were taken, including Herbert in round seven.
39:48Did I make a decent pick? Nexus, I hate to be that guy, but I don't love taking Jackson Dart in round eight.
39:56Round eight's like, you know, kind of depends. I mean, it's somewhere around like the 90s to 100 range.
40:02I mean, it's not the worst in the world.
40:05We'd need to know who is left and who's available.
40:08It sounds like he's saying, Jay, that there wasn't much left.
40:11But I'm not really that high on Dart this year.
40:15Um, so I think there's other players that you can get for cheaper, um, that can, are not going to be far
40:22off from his points per game difference. And may even finish ahead of him, like a packs, uh, a Patrick Mahomes, like
40:29a Tyler shock, like a Baker Mayfield, like a Brock Purdy, Jared Goff.
40:33Like all these guys feel like much better ecosystems.
40:36Um, and so I'm not super, super high on Jackson Dart.
40:39Uh, but Jay, let's, let's move on here really quick.
40:42Cause you're getting close to making your pick. I'm going to pull up one more question here.
40:48Kyle said, uh, probably hit tight end on the nine, 10 turn, which is coming up.
40:53And he sent that text message in a little while ago.
40:56Kyle Pitts goes off the board. Harold Fannin now goes off the board.
41:01We just talked about tight ends, um, with, with the way the board is settling.
41:05Now, are you considering going tight end here still, or are you probably going to continue to push the position?
41:12Man, we have so many players that we can just go with the tight end.
41:17I'm not really worried about it, but I am going to make sure that I go and get myself Jonah Coleman.
41:23Jonah Coleman will not come back. I am so thrilled, excited about him.
41:27I know you love the Denver Broncos, Pete. I'm looking at stimulus of, okay, I see JK Dobbins go.
41:33I'm going to take Jonah Coleman. There's a lot of different stack share that I want in this team or, or pair
41:40share of some players that are desirable. But I'm sitting here.
41:44I want it all. I'm greedy. I want Jonah Coleman as my RB three high upside team pressure off.
41:50I still have good quarterback outs that are going on on this team.
41:54There goes all in Kincaid. So I don't have to, you know, he's not going to come back to me.
42:01The decision is made. I don't have to, I was considering Kincaid, but I don't necessarily feel like I have to force it.
42:08I see a narrative where Allen and Kincaid, Kincaid breaks out.
42:11All of a sudden it's a great stack that you want, but I really love the fact that I can get some Jonah Coleman.
42:19And again, I think we can get some more value at the tight end position.
42:24Maybe it's somebody like Juwan Johnson, who is another beneficiary of this Jordan Tyson injury.
42:29While my first month isn't so good, maybe he's out there for me.
42:33So a lot of good tight ends and God knows we have Pete, Evan Ingram.
42:38We can always fall back on him, you know, when, when the bottom of the barrel for we have.
42:44So relax. Don't go too crazy, but yeah, yeah.
42:47We, we, we, we do have the ability to take like an Ingram and Travis Kelsey goes off the board.
42:53So you're on the pick on the clock. Now I'm going to grab this question really quick from it's a beaut Clark here and you take Tyler shuck.
43:02So we're going to talk about that because that definitely completes the stack.
43:06If you wanted to make sure you got your second quarterback.
43:09So I love that. It's a beaut Clark said half PPR.
43:13Would you take JSN or Jonathan Taylor? It's a good question.
43:17Half PPR definitely makes this feel like it's a little bit closer, but I'm still probably taking JSN.
43:22When we talk about touchdown equity, touchdowns matter much, much more in half PPR because, you know, it's not like PPR spamming
43:29where, you know, those high end high volume guys can make up for it.
43:34But JSN, even in a half PPR, Jay, I'm not worried about it.
43:38Like he's a guy that's going to have a very, very strong yards per reception.
43:43So, you know, you don't have to worry about like low, you know, guys that maybe are getting spammed with a ton of volume.
43:50Like it's the fun digs from last year where he's going for like six for 70 kind of thing.
43:56Like JSN is going to be a guy that's going to hit 100 yards consistently.
44:01And Jonathan Taylor's, I still have some question marks and reservations with him.
44:05I like Jonathan Taylor, but I'm going to take the younger, better player, even if the format typically favors running backs in half point PPR, Jay.
44:14I prefer JSN here. What do you think? And then let's talk a little bit about the board and your pick.
44:20By the way, you took Jonah Coleman and RJ Harvey was still on the board too.
44:25So that means he actually went third out of all the Broncos running back.
44:30So we'll talk about that in a second. Yeah.
44:33A lot of good content to, to queue up there.
44:36But if you believe I was listening to Rich Rebar and he was talking about the regression that can occur for somebody like Jonathan Taylor.
44:44And the stats that he read out, it was he and JJ Zacharisen.
44:48So shout out to you guys. They were talking about Jonathan Taylor and in wins, how he positions in fantasy football versus when they lose.
44:56And he is very much a go with the flow tide player.
45:00So if the Colts are running well, winning, there's correlation Jonathan Taylor to produce as a higher end fantasy asset.
45:06And he's always been a great fantasy asset, but it's so delineated between wins and losses on that physical week when you watch.
45:14I, I want to lean towards Jonathan Taylor. But when I hear about that regression, I think JSN is the pick.
45:20There could be some regression in the throw game in the past game for the Seahawks that still occurs.
45:26But I like the idea of taking JSN just slightly a little bit ahead.
45:31Now, just before we get to some of my picks and what happened with RJ Harvey, let's hear from the podfather.
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46:35Hey, there you have it from the pod, Father Pete.
46:38You were mentioning just prior to the ad break, RJ Harvey, he goes third.
46:43I think that's absolutely fair. And in one sense, you can talk about the PPR element.
46:48RJ Harvey is out there talking about how excellent Jonah Coleman is.
46:52But for his own game, RJ Harvey has been speaking recently to improving in the pass game.
46:57I think the signal there is we know, reinforce, RJ Harvey knows to be on the field.
47:02He has to be a decent pass catcher and get better there.
47:06Between the tackles grinder, it's going to go to somebody like J.K.
47:10Dobbins. And the next man up is going to be Jonah Coleman.
47:14We hear Jalen Waddell talk about Maurice Jones-Drew comps for Jonah Coleman.
47:18So I'm just elevated, excited to go and get Jonah Coleman.
47:21And I'm going to be fine with being differentiated.
47:24In two pockets, we've gotten value with Parker Washington and Jordan Tyson.
47:28And then in other pockets, we've paid up on Casey Concepcion and Jonah Coleman.
47:32But I'll say, as we talked about the ripple effect of we paid up with a little bit on round two, Chris Alave versus round three.
47:41Well, we're getting a ripple effect of a completely different build.
47:44And we're trying to be unique. So I feel like we're not going chalk.
47:49By the same time, we're directionally on the map.
47:52We're being reactive to the news. Because if you look at this team, you know, Chris Alave, the Jordan Tyson news.
47:58Jeremiah Love, we get third round value in, Pete.
48:01Because, hey, there's that ankle sprain. Josh Allen falls around four.
48:05We love gifts. Parker Washington, great faller. Janarian Price, just came back to practice.
48:09He's got the job. Concepcion flew and went nuts.
48:12So, yes, I go and take him in round seven.
48:15Who knows how itchy other people will get. Jordan Tyson, we get a benefit of round eight falling.
48:21So all of this is stimulus, too, off of all the action that's going on.
48:26So there's a logic if you run down the team, even though it's jumbled a little bit with the ADP.
48:32What are your thoughts? Yeah, we definitely took some advantage of the injury news.
48:37And I talked about it on Twitter the other day.
48:40Like, you know, the people, you know, we're all victims of getting upset when we see our favorite players or guys that we like going down, getting hurt.
48:49But we really haven't seen anybody major go down outside of like Jordan Tyson.
48:53There really hasn't been anybody that's like, oh, my gosh, like this guy, you've got to drop him down super far in your rankings.
49:01But we're getting value dips like we're getting people that are going cheaper because of that.
49:06Right. Parker Washington, we got almost 10 picks past his ADP just because he's missed a couple of days.
49:12Right. So I think that's like the way to do it.
49:15I would note on the Broncos thing really quick.
49:18I do disagree with you just a little bit here.
49:22Harvey, I think the Coleman thing is more of an issue for for Dobbins than it is for Harvey.
49:28Harvey, I've said that in the past, and I still firmly believe that Harvey is going to be a guy that's going
49:35to probably carry the ball six times a game.
49:38Right. But he's going to catch four passes a game or is going to get four to five targets a game.
49:44I firmly believe that that's going to be his role.
49:47I think he's got a very strong carved out role as the pass catcher.
49:52And Coleman's really going to be more of a nag for J.K.
49:56Dobbins where, you know, he's going to eat into Dobbins's work as the in between the tackles guy.
50:01I he did struggle a little bit. Coleman in the past protection in the first preseason game, it was limited and he
50:08has looked decent in camp at it. So I'm not overly concerned.
50:12He hasn't wasn't bad there in college, but just something to note there.
50:16So we just differ a little bit there, which is not not a problem at all.
50:22I mean, this is your team. This is how you're building it right now.
50:26I'm just here in the in the co-seat and I love Coleman.
50:30I just drafted him in another draft earlier today in best ball.
50:34I did draft them a little bit further. But like you said, sometimes like ADP is not a big deal, especially in
50:41these tournaments, like reaching up and getting different builds because you reach on a player, because you get a value dip on a player.
50:48That's how you get unique lineups. And if you're convicted on a player and you feel strongly about a player, you know,
50:55it's not going to matter too much if you, you know, took them 10 spots ahead or, you know, 20 spots ahead.
51:02If you feel really confident that that player is going to be a player this year and it's going to help you
51:09win and you think that they're mispriced with where they're going.
51:13So I totally OK with that. You got another pick coming up.
51:17So I'm just going to pull questions really quick, Jay, because I know I just rambled for a second, but I want to grab these questions.
51:25You focus on the clock. You took Isaiah likely we'll come back.
51:29But let's grab these questions just really quick. Kyle seems like you really like the Jonah Coleman pick.
51:35He said he looks like a beast and a contact seeker.
51:38We got fizzle in the house. He said, what's going on, fellas?
51:42How are we doing? He said, besides Chris Olave, is there a wide receiver on the Saints to target or not really?
51:49Jay Devon Vale is one of them, but there's somebody else that I think you have in mind as well.
51:55I'm sure you're thinking about it sometime later in this draft because you're stacking the Saints team again.
52:01And I'm fine talking about players because we don't have to marry the stacks.
52:06I already have to lock and loaded a lobby and Tyson to Tyler shock.
52:10And as I take the Dallas Cowboys team kicker as his tradition, I don't think we can break this streak, Pete.
52:17So I'm going to go with the Cowboys kicker and we will make a more fruitful effort to go two and two or two and three.
52:25On the defenses and kickers. We got some good advice on that in a prior show.
52:30Going back to, oh, it's Bryce Lance. Bryce Lance would be a player who, and shout out to Debro.
52:36Debro has been on him pretty good. I think we got him, Bryce Lance, maybe around 29 or 30 a couple weeks ago, Pete.
52:44Yep. And now maybe it's around 25. Maybe it's around 24 because there's stimulus of that news.
52:49He should go a few rounds earlier. Is that going to make or break the title wave, the advantage?
52:55Like if you get Bryce Lance in round 25 or Devon Vele in the 20 somewhere, I don't think it's a huge
53:02disadvantage versus the people who have maybe gotten a couple different rounds later prior weeks.
53:07I think sometimes we overlook and just look into it too much and overanalyze where you just want to get ripple effects
53:14of combinations of teams that are just flat out ballers and hoopers.
53:18And if you have a little more crystallized information with somebody like Bryce Lance, I think he's somebody who you want to target in a redraft format.
53:27But Pete, tell me if I'm speaking correctly. I don't think I'd be interested in Bryce Lance in a redraft format.
53:33I would just expect a couple of boom weeks, but unpredictable week over week in replacing those couple of weeks.
53:40Hopefully it's four weeks for Jordan Tyson. Yeah, I'm with you.
53:43The answer for me is really just Jawan Johnson.
53:46Like that's who the answer is for me. I was high on Jawan Johnson, Jay.
53:51I think that's really like that wide receiver too.
53:54I think he's going to be number two on the team in targets this year.
53:59You know, he had he I think he's had back to back years with somewhere on 90 to 100 targets in both seasons.
54:06So I don't see that changing for him. Devon Vele is is kind of sneaky a little bit, Jay, where he might
54:13be in that kind of power slot role a little bit at times.
54:17But overall, I really think it's Jawan Johnson if we're talking men to redraft leagues and he's a great value.
54:23So I'm good with it. By the way, Dallas kickers, it is funny because we I think we've gotten Dallas kickers every
54:30single draft that we've done so far. Maybe we're fish for going quick and high on the kickers.
54:36But it feels like a really, really nice thing.
54:39I mean, positional value wise, we get Josh Allen.
54:42We got Jamar Chase and we got Dallas Cowboys kicker.
54:45We there's an argument to be made that we could easily come out with, you know, the number one player at each
54:52of those positions at the end of this year.
54:55And those guys are going to have major positional advantages over the field.
54:59So love that pick there. You get Isaiah Likely.
55:02Talk to me about Likely because I've been on Isaiah Likely, Jay.
55:06But some people are a little nervous with how the usage was in just the first preseason game.
55:12Have you wavered at all in kind of where you're at with Isaiah Likely or you still feel pretty confident?
55:18I'm more fortified as it's gone along the drumbeat of what's going to happen for the New York Giants.
55:24My contention with Giants is you cannot stop them inside the 20 in the red zone because you have RPO with Scat Pack.
55:31And I'd like your opinion on Scat Bow and the Najee thing.
55:35But Dart, triple threat, run pass option with Scat Bow.
55:38Throwing up to fields as we saw this last weekend, catching the touchdown pass.
55:43Red zone threat was all we primed somebody like Malachi Fields for.
55:47Then, of course, my God, Malik Neighbors and then the duo of Likely and Theo Johnson.
55:52You're sitting there thinking, how can Giants be stopped inside the 20?
55:56But then again, there's Matt Nagy. And then you've got to go from the 20s to the 20s.
56:01You need to get there. And I think that's going to be the challenge, the aggravation, because on paper, it really looks great for the New York Giants.
56:10And Isaiah Likely follows Harbaugh, has more signal, gets a decent contract.
56:14And with all the Titans who went off, when I didn't go Dalton Kincaid, and I would have loved the Alan Kincaid
56:21stack, I see Likely as kind of like a teardrop.
56:24Jake Ferguson was another name of consideration. Mike Washington, great pick right there.
56:29That was another name of consideration for me. So what do you make of that analysis?
56:34Yeah, I like it a lot. And I've wavered when we're just talking about Likely.
56:38I've gone a little bit back and forth with him.
56:42You know, I have him ranked just ahead of Jake Ferguson and Jawan Johnson at my tight ends.
56:47I have Likely as like the number 112 player right now, Jay.
56:51That feels pretty fair. The tight ends start to get really pushed down the board, you know, once the top guys go off.
56:59So I feel pretty good about that. But we do have a couple other questions.
57:03Who did you just take, though? Before we get to questions, you took Emma Johnson, running back for the Chiefs, who looked pretty good in his preseason debut.
57:12What's the thoughts and the thinking there? And before I go there, we have five picks.
57:17So if five defenses go off, hey, it is what it is.
57:21But Rams, Seahawks, Broncos, Patriots, Jaguars on the come around.
57:24I think we've ignored defense a little. We push it down.
57:28I think we got to build a little bit.
57:31There go the Rams. So Seahawks, Broncos, Patriots, Jaguars, Eagles.
57:34Who do you like the most? Oh, yeah. Yeah.
57:37I would say that I am probably I'm on I'm on Seattle the most Rams up, obviously off the board.
57:43I think I'm on Seattle. Chargers have a great start to the year, by the way.
57:48They play like Arizona. And I can't remember the other team.
57:52They just go off the board. But that's kickers for the Chargers.
57:56But, yeah, I prefer Seattle. If you're if you're sitting at this spot, Seattle and Denver are the two.
58:02I actually have both of them ahead of the Rams.
58:05All right. So I'm going to have Seahawks with Jadarion Price stack instead of the Denver Broncos.
58:10I'm going to go Seahawks. I'm going to click it.
58:13And, you know, it's like taking your vitamins, taking your medicine.
58:17It's round 14. There's all these sexy skill position players that I would like.
58:21But I don't feel pressure at the quarterback position.
58:24Had Malik Willis fallen to me, he would have been a nice third quarterback that I would have considered.
58:30But with the quarterbacks on the board, I thought, you know what?
58:34I'm going to go and get a defense. Juwan Johnson goes.
58:38He would have been nice for stack share. There's somebody else being on the hunt for some of that blood in the water for the Jordan Tyson injury.
58:47So hat tip to team six or sorry, team five going to get Juwan Johnson.
58:51But I like the fact that we got a preeminent defense.
58:55We have a preeminent kicking team and preeminent defense in this format.
58:59We're going to want to get at least one of each somewhere else in this draft.
59:04But I like, hey, round 14. Why not? And there's plenty of skill position players left.
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59:59Let's check the chat really quick, Jay. And then give us a little bit of a breakdown for the audio side.
60:06Just run through exactly who you have. But let's take a quick sec to go through the chat real quick.
60:13Kyle says, did you say who you'd keep, AJ or Kenneth Walker?
60:16Yeah, we said Kenneth Walker just because of positional advantage and in a keeper league.
60:21I just think it's likely that there's not many running backs left.
60:25He's just kind of chatting. He wants to know our thoughts on Cyrus Allen.
60:29We'll get to Cyrus Allen a little bit once it gets more closer to when he gets selected.
60:35And then he did talk about Jawan Johnson and also agreed that Emmitt Johnson does look really good, Jay.
60:41So read off to the audio side, to the viewers on the visual side, visual side as well.
60:47Talk a little bit about your team and who you have so far.
60:51So we got the 103 and I went chalk with Jamar Chase.
60:55If it's one pick later, I'm going on my own right-hand ground.
60:59But here nor there, Jamar Chase, Chris Alave round two falls to me.
61:03We got that news of structured, crystallizing. No Jordan Tyson for at least the first month of the season.
61:09Then we take advantage of a drop with the ankle sprain.
61:13Jeremiah Love may not hit the lineup week one, Pete.
61:16But round three cannot look a gift horse in the mouth.
61:19Josh Allen round four falls. Gets a positional value there.
61:22Parker Washington late round five falls to us. Janarian Price in round six.
61:27Casey Concepcion, we reach up. I don't want, hey, a 20 gapper.
61:30He comes through in round eight or round nine.
61:33I'm taking Casey Concepcion before anybody gets him. I think he's a round five player.
61:38That's how much I would pay up is round five.
61:41Jordan Tyson goes in round eight. Jonah Coleman's my third running back.
61:45Tyler Shuck, my second quarterback in round 10. The cool thing about this, Pete, was I was looking at Trevor Lawrence.
61:52I'm glad the board took Trevor Lawrence on me because there's a common bye week, week seven with the Bills and the Jags.
61:59So now we got Shuck with week eight, Josh Allen, week seven.
62:03I'm not worried about the quarterback interfering for bye weeks.
62:06Isaiah Likely, my first tight end, our first tight end, Pete, in round 11.
62:11Dallas Cowboys kickers for tradition in round 12. Emmitt Johnson round three.
62:14You love to see it. And then the Seahawks defense Super Bowl champs in round 14.
62:20What do you make of this team and where we're at?
62:23What do you think our direction should be in these next few picks rounds 15 to maybe even 20?
62:29Yeah, I think I think still probably have to hit on some of these running backs if there's some value there.
62:36Kyle Manonga, really nice value slips around 14 because of the injury for him.
62:40So major, major faller. Hyper extended knee looks like he's going to be out a couple of weeks.
62:46I would try to at least fill up the running backs because we did take a little bit of risk.
62:52We're all relying on three rookie running backs right now.
62:56Now, you know, in your we have four taken so far running backs and we're relying on three rookies.
63:02So I would want to hit running back. What does that position look like right now?
63:07Who's available there? Yeah, the top we got Isaiah Pacheco, Tank Bigsby, Alvin Kamara, Brian Robinson, Kamani Vidal and Katron Allen.
63:13I definitely don't want Katron. Honestly, Kamara is kind of interesting.
63:17Tank Bigsby and Kamara are the two guys that I think I'd have my eye on if I were you.
63:23Bigsby is a guy that, you know, you're not going to get much fantasy standalone value unless Saquon goes down.
63:30Kamara, I think you will get standalone value, but the ceiling won't be nearly as high unless, of course, ETN goes down.
63:37But I'd rather Bigsby or Kamara, if we're saying, hey, one of these guys is going to be the starter due to
63:44the guy in front of them going down. I'd much rather Bigsby over Kamara.
63:48So that's kind of my thoughts, Jay. I don't know where you're thinking, but we might not even get them because if
63:55you're telling me that that's what's best, that's left.
63:58Good chance whoever the Saquon Barkley owner is might take Tank Bigsby pretty soon.
64:03So I don't even know if he'd even be available.
64:06But that's just kind of where my head goes and we don't want to push or press, but it is getting thin,
64:13it sounds like, at the running back position. Yeah, and I think there's going to be some value-wide receivers.
64:19Right now we have five receivers through 14 rounds, which will be 15.
64:23So there are going to be some stabs that we want to take, especially if we think Jordan Tyson is going to be out.
64:31That leaves us four healthy receivers to hit three wide receiver spots, a flex spot.
64:35So there may be a little bit of catch-up that goes.
64:39I like Braylon Allen. Braylon Allen's a good pick.
64:42He was not higher up on the Q and good snipe pick there for that team.
64:47We're getting some. So my issue, though, I really do like Isaiah Davis better than Braylon Allen based on what I've seen.
64:54Granted, he gets hurt. Don't want to get stuck to my priors.
64:58But my problem with Braylon Allen is last year he looked phenomenal just the way he did in preseason just this last week.
65:05And then he just was awful in season. He was terrible.
65:09So I feel like I've been down this road before.
65:12I feel like I've been got before, and I'm not really buying it.
65:16Yeah. I'm with you there, too. So, you know, with the Jets, I'm just trying to look and think about, like, who
65:23are the best, you know, who are the best rookie or just sorry, who are the best handcuffs that aren't, like, the top upper echelon?
65:31I assume Tajay Spears is off the board. I assume, you know, we're looking to me at, like, we're talking high upside.
65:38I know Mike Washington's off the board. Is Marshall and Lloyd available?
65:42Oh, that's a good one. Looking around the board.
65:45Yeah, he went. Yep. He went in round 13.
65:48So explain him. Do you feel confident in him to be healthy?
65:51It sounds like he's healthy right now and you can do nothing but go off of that because it's all we have.
65:58It's all we've got. Josh Jacobs, though, are you more are you more pro Josh Jacobs or pro?
66:04Hey, round 13, Marshawn Lloyd. And I'm going to fade Josh Jacobs, who could have suspension.
66:09But you're you're in because I think in round five.
66:12You're in on Josh Jacobs. Yeah, we got it.
66:15That was a great value on Josh Jacobs. I'm very much in on Jacobs.
66:20I love the price that we're getting on him.
66:23I guess I'm just very surprised, Jay, how much people have faded Josh Jacobs.
66:27I understand any of the groin issue. I think people are worried a little bit about the suspension.
66:33I know Ian Rappaport came out and said it's a possibility.
66:36But, you know, Puka Nakua also got banged up with a little bit of an injury.
66:41And Puka Nakua also has the possibility of a suspension.
66:45And he's still getting drafted pretty high in the first round.
66:48I mean, that didn't really affect him too much.
66:51So I yeah, I'm not I'm not really totally understanding where people are coming from there.
66:56I think Jacobs should be around three player. So getting him in round five is awesome value, in my opinion.
67:03So I went and I did kind of lie for a little bit just because I was like, you know, F these people, man.
67:10I'm not you're not you're not taking these guys on me.
67:14It's funny. I'll talk about like Marvin Harrison Jr.
67:17And it's like, oh, you know, if you want to take him, fine.
67:21Dalton Cade, fine. But I went Ray Davis and I kind of like that as some sneaky stack share with Josh Allen.
67:28If there is to be some truth to utilization for the backs, pass game, James Cook maybe gets hurt.
67:34All of a sudden, there's that deadly duo of Allen and Ray Davis.
67:38And then I'm getting all point share of the Buffalo Bills in a sneaky manner in a lower rostered tournament setting share.
67:45The combo of somebody like a Ray Davis with Josh Allen, I think is very sneaky, especially as I miss.
67:51I really would like Dalton Cade when I don't get DJ more with Josh Allen.
67:56But be that as it may, I like something like this that's just unique, differentiated.
68:01And you know how I feel about DeMond Claiborne.
68:04I keep seeing him go at least around round 15.
68:07So I'm happy that I didn't push fate here because Johnny Tuma, if you anybody watch, he went to DeMond Claiborne in
68:14round 15 of that draft that Johnny had. I can't remember where we got him the week prior, but people are wise to him.
68:22And he's another upside play for me to get Coleman, Evan Johnson, Ray Davis, DeMond Claiborne.
68:27I'm super ecstatic in it. You might notice from drafting with me, Pete.
68:31I really like I'm a sucker for like, look, ball up top.
68:35Jeremiah Love, Jadarian Price. And then it's Coleman, Johnson, Davis, DeMond Claiborne, Shawn Michaels, super kick.
68:40We get an injury to any of these players and my guys stay healthy for the duration of the season.
68:46I'm cooking with gas and I have pushed up higher on the board.
68:50Advantage at quarterback. Advantage at receiver. So probably the rest of the way, these next few picks.
68:56So I'm going to ease off on running back.
68:59And I think I need to do a little catch up at receiver and maybe some depth that time in.
69:05So so Mr. Brad said he's in the nine slot and he took Josh Jacobs.
69:10That is who took Jacobs there. He's in the chat.
69:13Love that pick. Go to go to his team.
69:16Let's read his team. Yep. Yeah. He goes. He starts off JT Saquon Barkley.
69:20Great picks. Rashi Rice, Garrett Wilson. And this is the juxtaposition.
69:24He's sitting there. Hey, the board is going to give me Josh Jacobs.
69:28He takes Josh Jacobs round five round six. Drake may love that pick for you.
69:33BTJ Marvin Harrison, Jr. I don't love those players, but I love that price of round seven and eight.
69:39Goes Kyle Pitts for his first tight end in round nine.
69:42Love that. I consider Pitts in that area. And then we'll wait for that box to go away.
69:48RJ Harvey. RJ Harvey. So, hey, we're on the other side.
69:52We're the Spider-Man meme. He gets RJ Harvey round 10.
69:55George Kittle. Great second tight end. Xavier Worthy round 12.
69:58Good upside. Malik Willis. Hey, funny enough. I talked about, hey, if I could have gotten Malik Willis, I would have taken them.
70:05So hat tip to you. And then Denver Broncos defense, which we talked about, Pete.
70:10So it is funny, Mr. Brad, what you got going on there.
70:14Jawan Jennings, Jalen Naylor, Ryan Flournoy. I like those best ball upside wide receivers.
70:18So good draft in here. And this is very fun right now.
70:22He takes Keenan Allen. And this is how crazy and how much value we've gotten on Keenan Allen, Stephon Diggs, Debo Samuel.
70:29We got Keenan Allen as like our like second to last pick in our last draft last week on Thursday.
70:36I think it was, Jay. Keenan Allen went off the board at like pick 290.
70:41And that's not to say it's a bad pick that you took him here.
70:45But it's more about how crazy it is that like the changes we see of like we knew Keenan Allen was going to go to a team.
70:54And yet he continued to fall and fall and fall and fall.
70:57It was the same with Stephon Diggs, who now goes sometimes in the top 100.
71:02And Debo Samuel, who goes somewhere around the top 100, pretty close to that too.
71:07So I still like the Keenan Allen pick. I think you're going to get very – in a best ball format like this, he's a floor pick.
71:16And it's a start three wide receiver. You're going to get a lot of floor with him on a weekly basis.
71:22May not get the ceiling for him, but you'll get the floor.
71:26And I think he's going to play in that Michael Pittman role.
71:30But do you want to get to this next question here from Griff?
71:34What do you call him, Griff? Said, would you rather keep Emeka Egbuka for a 6th round pick or Quinshawn Judkins for
71:41an 11th round pick full PPR redraft? Man, that's some intense value on Judkins, Jay.
71:46Just for reference, I'm going to tell you where these guys are going on ADP in the last week for FFFP – I'm sorry, NFFC.
71:54Quinshawn Judkins goes at pick 58, Jay. And Emeka Egbuka is definitely much higher than that.
71:59Let's see if I can find it, Jay. Egbuka is going at pick 27.
72:03So, I mean, still really great values for both players here.
72:07I think if you're in a league that you think there's going to be a lot of elite running backs kept, I think you keep Judkins.
72:15I think you're fine. Egbuka may not be the value of what Judkins is in terms of how much you're getting saved because he's a 6th round pick.
72:24But a 6th round pick for Egbuka is still an impressive value when he's going in the high 3rd round close to the 2-3 turn, Jay.
72:33So, I would still prefer probably Egbuka here in a vacuum.
72:36But if running back is going to be scarce, I'll take Judkins.
72:40Well, how about the odd experiment of can I get Judkins in round 11 and with this injury, can I get Emeka Egbuka in maybe the 3rd round?
72:49I might go for that versus you go in the 6th round, get Egbuka, have him the safety, the shorty, but then
72:56have to get Judkins in either probably round 5 because you can't go back and get round 7 Quinshawn Judkins.
73:02So, that would be the only juxtaposition I'd be in there.
73:06Look, Pat Bryant goes, that kills me. Terrence Ferguson, Brad, great pick.
73:10I was right on Terrence Ferguson. He was somebody who I had my eye on.
73:1413 personnel, the Rams last year had something like, okay, in 13 personnel, 20 touchdown passes by Matthew Stafford, 0 interception.
73:21So, if it ends up being Terrence Ferguson, I think that's a great pick in round 17.
73:26Brad, you and I, we have a mind meld, so I really like what you got going on there.
73:32I'm going to make this pick. Tight end value.
73:35I'm going to get somebody in Greg Dulcich. Free points.
73:39Just free Miami Dolphins points in somebody like Greg Dulcich.
73:42I need a second tight end. Round 17. What a spot to go and get him.
73:47And amongst those tight ends, Dalton Schultz is another PPR target monster.
73:51We got him in a prior draft, though, Pete.
73:54So, great pick on Terrence Ferguson, Brad, just to keep covering your team and what you have going on.
74:00So, you love to see it. And then, oh, did I get it wrong?
74:04Hold that thought. Basher said, someone is giving me Puka, Nakua.
74:08They wanted Puka and Godwin in PPR redraft. That's a smash for me.
74:12I don't know if you get that gong. Is that a good one?
74:16I heard it. It was good. It was good.
74:19Whatever. Yeah, it's a smash for me. I mean, look, could I see a world where you're maybe a little bit concerned
74:26because of Puka with the injuries, whatever? Yeah. But you're going to have a massive headache rostering of Puka and Godwin J and not knowing who to start.
74:35If it's best ball format like this, totally understand it.
74:38You don't got to worry about it. But in a situation where it's managed redraft PPR, like he's saying, it's very, very easily Puka and Nakua.
74:46That should really be like a Puka and like a running back or a Puka and a much better player than Godwin.
74:53And I like Godwin. There's a world where Godwin finishes ahead of this year.
74:58But on face value, where we are currently with values of players before the season starts, that second player has got to be better than Godwin.
75:06So that's a really awesome value for him. And also, I see Emeka Buka being a round one player in one quarterback formats next year.
75:14Yeah, I know. That is your bold prediction. But with that said, Puka and Nakua is already there.
75:20So you don't even have to force it. So yes, go with Puka and Nakua.
75:24It's a no brainer. And this next player, I'm going to go because I don't know how much longer he's going to last on this board.
75:33And a week ago, we could have let this player be buried.
75:37But it is Caleb Douglas. It may be the wide receiver one on the Miami Dolphins.
75:42So a sneaky little thing I've done, Pete. I've gone and gotten Caleb Douglas, Greg Dulcich.
75:47We can talk about Cyrus Allen, Ted Hurst. Great picks here.
75:50Pat Bryant had gone. He was in my range.
75:53But I've got just a unique where I don't have the stack with Malik Willis.
75:58But I've got Greg Dulcich and Caleb Douglas. And as much as we want to puke on the Miami Dolphins, round 17,
76:05round 18, I get a great pie share of an offense that is probably going to have to be a lot like
76:12the Cardinals of last year, Pete, where they're in throw mode.
76:16They're going to be behind all the time. A lot of that may go underneath to Devon H.
76:21And I like the idea of that. I just got a free tight end in Greg Dulcich.
76:27And I probably got a free wide receiver one in Caleb Douglas.
76:31He's a sleeper pick for me. Round 18 at this part of the draft.
76:35I don't really mind the ADPs. I think that's just like a structure that's out there.
76:40A false construct, as they call it. But talk about Cyrus Allen.
76:44Great pick there. Running with the ones. Do you think there'll be three wide receiver sets with the Chiefs in 2026 that get Cyrus Allen on the field?
76:53Or is he just going to rotate in a little bit more?
76:57Performing great at camp, Pete. Or is this like a little bit of insurance for somebody like Arashi Rice who isn't fully on ramp?
77:04You know what? I think it's really more concerning.
77:07You know, for the two wide receiver sets. Xavier Worthy is going to be that burner down the field.
77:13So I don't think he gets pulled off the field.
77:17It is really more of like what happens in the two wide receiver sets.
77:21Rice is going to be able to block. So I don't think Cyrus Allen is going to get on the field a ton in those situations.
77:29But there's also a world where this is a room that doesn't have much talent.
77:34Cyrus Allen has looked good in camp so far.
77:37And maybe in a crazy world, Cyrus Allen ends up, you know, getting enough or doing well enough to get on the field more.
77:45But this is going to be more of a run.
77:48Not a run first team, Jay. But they're going to run more than we've seen in the past, which is not hard to do.
77:55You have not really ran the football a ton.
77:58So, yeah, I think a lot of 12 personnel is going to be on the table here.
78:04Travis Kelsey, Noah Gray. Noah Gray probably staying in the block.
78:07Kelsey going out to run routes. That's what we're going to see a ton of this year.
78:13And Cyrus Allen is really nipping at the heels.
78:16And he's also behind two guys that Worthy's already got banged up at practice.
78:20So is Rashi Rice. So those guys also have injury concerns.
78:24So he's a very, very nice insurance policy on those receivers in that round.
78:28I do also want to let you know, Mr.
78:31Brad said he really wanted Douglas to stack with Malik Willis.
78:34So you still Douglas with him. I think he stole a player or two from us.
78:39So it's only fair that we get him a little bit back.
78:43But Preppy Girl wants us to really, really badly answer her question, Jay.
78:47So let's just pull it up real quick and then we'll get an idea of what you're thinking.
78:53She said she gets, or let's just say she can either have AJ Brown or Zay and Terry.
78:59So the pack, the trade is AJ Brown on one side, Zay Flowers, Terry McLaurin on the other side.
79:05It's a PPR flex in redraft. Which side do you prefer here?
79:09I think I probably still prefer AJ. But if it's a start three wide receiver league, I probably would lean towards Zay and Terry J.
79:17Because I do see a world where Zay beats out AJ this year just because I'm super high on Zay.
79:23But ultimately, AJ is the best player here by far, in my opinion.
79:27So it's got to be a two wide receiver.
79:30If I'm going to get bulk, I'm going to want to take Zay and Terry.
79:35Usually you take the best player available. But you make an argument that if Terry McLaurin gets 10 targets a game, Zay Flowers gets peppered.
79:43And he finishes and continues on from that late finish where he was wide receiver seven overall last year.
79:49Give me both of them versus AJ Brown. Prior to a trade where we had where we wanted more, it was Puka for Ibuka and Godwin.
79:57And you thought, hey man, I want a little bit more than Godwin as that second piece.
80:03This is a trade where from AJ Brown to get Zay Flowers.
80:07And then the second piece is Terry McLaurin. And if this is redraft, as I understand, give me the Zay and the Terry McLaurin side.
80:15You got two players. You got a round three and maybe a round four player in Terry McLaurin in the redraft streets.
80:22Where you have a one-two term player and somebody like AJ Brown.
80:25I don't think it's more value. I think you're going to cut in.
80:30You're just going to get more beneficial points. And then I would just beg to wonder who would be the other player
80:37in the lineup next to AJ Brown. That would beat out a Terry McLaurin in this trade.
80:42Because it's AJ Brown, Zay Flowers, Terry McLaurin. Who's that second player who's going to be underneath AJ Brown to fill out
80:49to compete with somebody like Terry McLaurin? That would be the only question that I would have.
80:54But I actually lean towards Zay and Terry McLaurin.
80:57And I don't think that's being safe either. I think we get ceiling seasons out of Zay and McLaurin.
81:03We get it out of AJ Brown. But, hey, I'm getting two ceiling players to one AJ Brown.
81:09Yeah, and I can understand that. That's why I said if it's a start three wide receivers, I understand it.
81:16Because there's more positions that you need to fill.
81:18I think that's a goal where, you know, if it's a two running back, two wide receivers, and a flex, I still prefer AJ.
81:26You talk about him at a 2-3 turn. I have AJ as my 14th ranked player.
81:31So I view him closer to a 1-2 turn player than a 2-3 turn player.
81:36That's just me. I do have Zay Flowers. I picked 26.
81:39So I'm ahead of consensus on him. I view him close to a 2-3 turn player.
81:45And then I'm ahead of consensus on Terry as well.
81:48I have Terry as my 39th ranked player. So pretty much very close to being a round three player for Terry.
81:54So get the rationale there. But hopefully we answered the question.
81:58Gave you a couple different perspectives there. Thanks for tuning in.
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83:15All right. Before we get to what transpired prior, I feel like this is a good time.
83:21There's going to be a run on defenses, Pete, in the 20 gap that we have.
83:26So here at the top, Lions, Packers, Bills, Falcons, Saints, Chiefs, 49ers, Giants.
83:30Saints. Any of those teams? Saints. Saints. Okay, beautiful.
83:33Let's go get them, grab them. They're ranked 239.
83:36When's their bye? When's their bye? Week 8. Okay, good.
83:39Seattle's week 11. So just making sure. I'll make that pick.
83:42And I know you like the Saints as a defense.
83:45So that's a fun one. When the run of the early to mid-tier has gone, you tend to like the New Orleans Saints defense.
83:53Let's talk about it a little bit, Pete. What did occur, though, before I went and took Deshaun Watson, I had the Browns quarterbacks on my mind.
84:02I've leaned Watson, actually, to become the starter, be the starter to start the year.
84:07And whoever gets the keys to this Browns offense is going to be phenomenal.
84:11I get a stack with Casey Concepcion. I don't know how it's going to be for 17, 18 weeks of the NFL season.
84:18But I like the fact that kind of triggered the stimulus of, I can't wait on to my second pick to go
84:25and get Deshaun Watson as my third quarterback. I had to get him on the front end.
84:31And then I was thinking about Zachariah Branch as a boom type of wide receiver that we could get at this pocket of the draft.
84:39Goes one pick before me. So great pick there.
84:42Team four on Zachariah Branch. Two back-to-back picks. Cyrus Allen, Zachariah Branch.
84:45Hat tip there. Great picks. We see a little run of defense go.
84:50The Detroit Lions person went with the Browns and the Lions.
84:53Team two. But it's funny. That was kind of on my mind.
84:57So team two had the same thought. I think everybody else is just chasing now.
85:02Downflow domino effect from that. But I'm glad we got the Saints and Pete.
85:06This is good for us. We're 10 more rounds, and we've got ourselves two defenses.
85:11We finally did it. We're probably going to look for another kicker at some point.
85:16And then we're going to fill out our position players.
85:19What position players do you think we need to go towards for a build?
85:23We have three quarterbacks. We have one, two, three, four, five, six running backs.
85:28We could probably use more running backs. And I have six receivers.
85:32Is that right? Five, six. Six receivers. So we probably got to go a little bit trade back and forth between receivers and running backs.
85:40I have two tight ends. Yeah. I think it's really now you're just playing the board and just taking play.
85:46I don't think it's a matter of how many.
85:49You know, at this point, you filled out enough.
85:52It's a deep enough draft. You can pretty much just free flow here and just pretty much take value as it comes to you.
86:00Devon Vele, we talked about, is a player that I would consider just because you get that stack, another player in that same stack.
86:07You could also start maybe looking at Bills players, maybe a Skyler Bell later, maybe a Keon Coleman, if that's of interest to you.
86:15So I do want to pull this question real quick from Pham first.
86:19It's a good starting point. He said, what kind of draft is this?
86:23I'm watching this and this is really confusing me.
86:26And then he said, oh, never mind. I'm just late.
86:29I was like, why are they drafting defenses first?
86:32I think it's because when the board was scrolled up, when the board was scrolled up, he probably didn't see it.
86:39Mr. Brad said Vele was taken at round 16.
86:42Good catch. I didn't realize that. I typed him in.
86:45He's not there. Yeah. Is Bryce Lance gone too?
86:48No, I don't think so. He's still there. But I was just curious.
86:52That's okay. Look, if he's there, fine. But there's a degree of I have two Saints players.
86:57Like what if I would have gotten Jawan Johnson?
87:00Is it overkill at a certain point? Because in a way, am I betting against myself the discount that I got on somebody like a Jordan Tyson?
87:09See, number one, this is all cope. You just learn to cope with whatever happens on the board.
87:14But at the same time, you can tell a story, a narrative.
87:18And that's what's fun about this because you chop up a redraft.
87:22Pete, weekly, we're making our waiver wire picks. Our defense is in our kicker streaming, right?
87:27And you just kind of play in week in, week out.
87:31On this, it's like you're opening up a book.
87:34You're reading a chapter. A draft is a chapter.
87:37And you're enjoying what goes on. And then the next chapter is something different because it's a different draft.
87:43But you kind of fit it all in, almost like a short story, into one event because that has to play out for the duration.
87:51So we're projecting a whole redraft season packed into this best ball contest.
87:55Yeah. I'm totally, totally with you there. I do think it's a good time to take a break.
88:00Not take a break for a cup break, but just a break to remind the folks of what we're doing here.
88:07With NFFC, this is the best ball championship draft.
88:10Fan first did kind of say, hey, what is this draft?
88:14So we'll explain it. This is a 30-round best ball draft on high-stakes NFFC.
88:18If you ever want to try this out, PJ, that was one of these.
88:22So we can't have another player for my host.
88:25One dollar is off the draft. You lose that.
88:28The way the draft goes, 12 teams in this draft, it's 30 rounds.
88:32It's a third-round reversal. It's also been tough to go to the draft style.
88:37It's pretty much required to do the draft. They randomized the draft order.
88:41And if I get to number one, it's like 25 to the first place.
88:45It's a really, really cool format. It's cumulative. How do you talk to this?
88:50Yeah, and it's really good with the defenses and kickers.
88:53We've gotten two and two now. We are 22 rounds in.
88:57And we have pushed to where we had a kicker, we had a defense, and the whole run went.
89:03All the teams got picked on defense. So, fortunately here, I was able to get a second kicker team.
89:09So now I have the Seahawks, the Saints as my defenses.
89:12And we have now Pete, the Dallas Cowboys, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as our team kicker.
89:18And all I can remember last year, I have a Dynasty League where I have Chase McLaughlin.
89:23And don't ask me why there's kickers in the Dynasty League, but damn it, I have Chase McLaughlin.
89:29And he was phenomenal to have. It's the Buccaneers offense.
89:32So I'm just sitting there like printing points, getting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
89:36And let me look at their Week 10 to the Cowboys Week 14.
89:40So I feel like, Pete, we have a positional advantage at the kicker position with, okay, it's going to be the Dallas Cowboys.
89:48And then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they're just another one who maybe they're the seventh best kicking team.
89:53But my God, the points are there. They can hang 30 burgers every week and have a couple field goals in there,
90:00a bunch of extra points, built-in points that are there.
90:04And then, of course, when you get into the fractional scoring element, Chase McLaughlin is hitting a 55-yarder.
90:09You're thrilled. Maybe he hits two of them in a game.
90:13And you're like, okay, cool. This is how we get some of those printed points and get some best ball advantage.
90:20And then I decided to go with Sean Tucker, just another running back.
90:24He fell. He was near pick 250 there, and he was like 202.
90:28So he was not getting picked. I think there's all the bullish news about Kenneth Gainwell and, of course, the fruition of Bucky Irving.
90:36Like, it's going to be logjammed at the top.
90:38But it does never fail. In his career, Sean Tucker finds one or two games each year to just ball out.
90:45So in round 21, realistically, if I get two or three weeks of hit spike weeks where he's a top two, top
90:52three running back, which he's shown at times in a given week, then that's a massive payout.
90:58I would take that right now for what you're getting to boom boss versus a lot of these players in these next
91:05seven, eight rounds, Pete, might be getting you four points, six points.
91:08Stuff that doesn't move the needle. So if I can get a couple spike weeks, going back to, you know, I would
91:15like Caleb Douglas in round 18 to kind of be in a week in, week out player.
91:21He could end up being a league winner, a tournament winner or tournament shifting type of player for me.
91:27But as we get in whittled down here, if it ends up being somebody like a Bryce Lance, I'm not expecting week over week goodness.
91:35I'm hoping for two or three good weeks throughout the year that can just push up my point total and get me right.
91:42Right. Yeah, I'm with you, by the way. Great analysis on explaining a little bit as to why, you know, why we are drafting kickers, defenses.
91:51And it looks like you might have just timed out.
91:54So go ahead and pull that back up. Just hit lobby.
91:57If you hit lobby, you should be able to get back to it.
92:01Just click that right there. And then you should be able to enter.
92:06Scroll back up real quick. Go to my team.
92:08Sorry. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. And then it should be this.
92:12Yeah, there you go. Should be the second one, I think.
92:15Oh, yeah. I don't know why I did that.
92:18Yeah, I think maybe hit the home button on that or there you go.
92:22Yeah. And then you should be able to hit the draft from top.
92:27Right at the top says draft. Right here. At the top, it should say stats draft.
92:32Right. So go to draft room. Yeah. Okay. That was no, that's not it.
92:36Draft board. Sorry. Sorry, folks. That was very odd.
92:39I've never had that happen yet. A little bit of a timeout situation.
92:43Oh, I'll stop presenting. I'll get it. Sorry about that.
92:46While you're while you're doing that, I'll just talk a little bit.
92:50The Jets defense are an interesting defense as well.
92:53Colts go off the board on the turn there.
92:56Colts and Jeff's Jets defense are two of the weaker schedules for defenses this year.
93:01Jets have a pretty favorable schedule. I mean, they brought in DeMarco Davis.
93:05They brought in some veterans. They obviously draft Bailey in the first round at the top in the first five picks, Jay.
93:12And they get a pretty nice schedule here. They open up against Tennessee.
93:16It's a tough Green Bay, Detroit, Chicago. But then they get Cleveland.
93:20They still get Miami. They get the Raiders. They get Miami again.
93:24And they get Arizona. At the end of the year, they get Minnesota in week 17, which honestly could be J.J.
93:30McCarthy at that point if Kyler gets benched or what happens.
93:34But that's possibly a team that maybe has a rough year.
93:37And then it ends up being a favorable matchup.
93:40So Jets are kind of a sneaky team. If you want to get a third defense, if there's any, if they're dwindling
93:47down and you want to maybe consider grabbing an extra defense.
93:51Also at the tight end position, as tight ends start to come off the board, I'm curious what your thoughts on a
93:58guy like Eli Raired and Jay, who looked pretty good in that preseason game.
94:02He's been rumored to be working with the ones a lot in practice, interchanging with Hunter Henry.
94:08It seems like they could run some two tight end sets and Eli Raired and could be in there.
94:14Now he's a really good blocker. So, you know, it could be more of, Hey, he's really doing a lot of the
94:21blocking and freeing up Hunter Henry, but he's a guy that I've been targeting as well later on in my drafts.
94:28I like that. I'm going to take the Jets.
94:30I'm going to take your advice on that. Go with the three defenses.
94:35I'm going to park it at the defensive position.
94:37I feel like that's going to get us to be stalwart five picks between kickers and defense.
94:43I'm going to be happy with that. I have a couple of receivers in the queue.
94:48So whatever comes between now and then I'll make my pick depending on how it's looking.
94:53So I'm excited about the picks that I have coming up.
94:57And Eli Raired, and though you mentioned, I think he would be worthy.
95:01We did see Hunter Henry did get, what was it?
95:04A two year contract extension, but sometimes players just cannot be denied.
95:08What do you make though? So a rookie tight end, you know, break it down with Stowers and Sadiq.
95:14How much faith do you have in them as rookies because of their prospect profiles versus somebody like an Eli Raired in?
95:21Do you see Eli Raired in having a path to being able to play this year?
95:26I do see a path. I think he'll be out there.
95:29It's just a matter of how, how much will he play?
95:33Raritan is definitely really the biggest factor for him.
95:36By the way, he said, Raritan may be emergency may back stack.
95:40Yeah, totally, totally agree with that. And I think he has Drake May.
95:44So I think, I think he's trying to tell us to back off.
95:48But I don't know that we need to take Raritan this high anyway, but it's something to consider.
95:54Where are you leaning now? You're up in two picks.
95:57Is there anybody that sticks out to you that's still left on the board?
96:01Have a couple of receivers, have a couple of running backs that are of mind.
96:06And boom, this is the beauty of sometimes you go away from your skill position players because you fill in the kickers
96:13in the defense and you think, oh no, all the players that I want are going to be gone.
96:19How about we get a player here, Pete? Did he not just sign Najee Harris?
96:24Did he not just sign with the Giants? He did just sign with the Giants.
96:29Yep. He just signed with our team. So we have Najee Harris now.
96:33If there's any kind of bearishness, people think, okay, Tyrone Tracy got blown.
96:37He's blown up in that rep. And Jackson darts asking why he's going to blue medical tent.
96:42Well, man, you were on the ground for about 30 seconds.
96:46We get Najee Harris to come in, but I think there's stimulus to the fact that Cam Scadabo may not be fully right just yet.
96:54Is Najee Harris more of an anti-Tracy pick or a deterrent to the ceiling of Cam Scadabo?
96:59Because you seem to be of the mind that you're getting discount Scadabo.
97:04One thing that I saw in that route that people were picking apart with Scadabo was, hey, he doesn't trust his lower body yet to turn.
97:12But part of me was wondering, well, were you just doing that on the Giants crappy field and understanding that you don't want to trust the field yet?
97:21Maybe you trust yourself, but on that surface, you don't want to run the full route.
97:26So what do you think is smoke or noise between Cam Scadabo and what we have now with Najee Harris on our team?
97:33Yeah, I think Najee's not really more of a threat to Scadabo.
97:37It's going to be a pass protection player. Scadabo can hold up and pass pro too.
97:42Also, I think I saw a guy, the covers of Giants, that talked about how Harbaugh has historically the last couple of
97:49years, I think, carried four running backs plus a fullback on the roster.
97:53So I guess it's not super surprising. And maybe they just want to lift the floor in that room considering the injury
98:00history with Scadabo and some of the concerns that they might have a little bit with Tracy, especially as a guy to hold up and pass pro.
98:09And when you see your starting quarterback, your prized possession get knocked around like he did, you might kind of say, hey,
98:16well, Scadabo is a guy that could miss some time.
98:19And if he does, we don't want to leave it up to Tracy to be the guy back there protecting him if
98:26there are some concerns with him in pass protection.
98:29Yeah, it'll be interesting. I am not enamored one bit with Najee Harris, but I do recall, I think you took him
98:36in one of the drafts that we did together.
98:39And it was just a thought stimulus of he's going to land and operate and circle onto a team.
98:45And here he is. Land is encircled and operated not too far from JFK airport going to the New York Giants.
98:52And we'll see what that does to Cam Scadabo.
98:55May end up presenting a gift. I'll be interested to see if Cam Scadabo's ADP drops or plummets.
99:00Looking at the board, the next seven picks, Pete, are defenses and kickers.
99:04So get them while you can, because I think we're about to be all out on both positions.
99:10There goes my sweet Isaiah Davis. Love to have him.
99:13He's gone. Taj Brooks, good back-to-back picks for upside cuff running backs.
99:17I really do like Davis and Taj Brooks. As much as Braylon Allen is showing ahead, my God, if you watch Isaiah Davis, he looks so electric.
99:26And Taj Brooks, the Bengals seem to trust him, Pete.
99:29They didn't bring in any running back competition. As much as you're high on somebody like Chase Brown, I know, is it Smosh P.
99:37Ryan who's still there and passed downs? Yep. Do you trust?
99:40Who do you want? Smosh P. Ryan or Taj Brooks if it's not Chase Brown?
99:45Um, did you say Samaj P. Ryan's in Taj Brooks?
99:48Yeah, Taj Brooks. I thought you said Samaj Brooks for some reason.
99:52But yeah. I might have. I might have. My bad.
99:55No, you're good. It's, uh, it's Taj Brooks for me.
99:58Uh, not to say that he's going to be better than Samaj P.
100:03Ryan, but I'll take the younger player all day over P.
100:06Ryan who just doesn't have much upside. Um, you know, as it is, he might have a small role, but even if,
100:13if Brown was to go down, I don't know how high that ceiling is for him.
100:18Yeah. We see, uh, Jeremy Bernard go off. He, all this stuff, Pete, about Jeremy Bernard being fourth on the depth chart.
100:25I don't buy it one bit. He looked amazing in the green Bay game showing off a lot of what I've seen in the pre NFL draft process.
100:34I really liked Jeremy Bernard, the prospect. And here he is as a pro now going in round 25.
100:40What do you make of Jeremy Bernard? What's going on with the Steelers?
100:44Are you a Michael Pittman jr. Person or is it DK Metcalf?
100:48Is it just a little bit of Spider-Man meme with all three of these receivers?
100:53Who do you want in that passing game? Maybe throw in somebody like a Pat for Iron Muth.
100:59I don't know. You stumped me there. I'm over here looking, I'm, I'm, I'm looking at your board and, and I zoned out there.
101:06I, I need some coffee. I apologize. I, I, I zoned out there.
101:11Are you, did you say you saw it? You said Fryer, Ruth and Joe, but the Steelers offense.
101:16Is that, is that what you're getting at? Who do you think is a receiver?
101:21Like buried on the depth chart is Jeremy Bernard.
101:24Who do you think is the guy you want though?
101:27I, I kind of want Roman Wilson now just because he's cheaper and just the reports seem like he is he's doing well in camp.
101:35And I was always a big Roman Wilson fan.
101:38It just, you know, it was kind of the rollout for him.
101:42Didn't work out. He got injured. He was dealing with it and never really got back up and healthy.
101:48But I would, I would definitely prefer Roman Wilson.
101:51I think right now over Bernard, what about yourself?
101:54I really prefer right now. Like I love the prospect in a Jeremy Bernard.
101:58I like him for rookies dynasty formats, but give me Michael Pittman jr.
102:02This year is gross, disgusting. But when he goes say round nine in the draft, you don't have to pay some crazy price for him.
102:10And the problem with Aaron Rogers is he would hold onto the football too much last year.
102:16And I just see that being a scenario where you're going to get the football out just a little bit quicker to a bigger target.
102:24Give me Michael Pittman jr. And we see, I go Jack Batch.
102:27I'd like your opinion. What do you think of Jack Batch this year?
102:32Jack Batch is interesting. And who knows really what's going to go down in that room right now?
102:37There, there's so many different ancillary pieces. You could even say Michael Mayer is, is possibly that like wide, like the third
102:44in the pecking order for targets this year. It wouldn't surprise me if it's like Brock Bowers, Ashton Gentry, and then Michael Mayer.
102:52Like if they're run heavy, super, super heavy and Bowers is almost playing a role as if he's like a receiver.
102:58It wouldn't shock me, but yeah, I don't really have a hold on, on, on it.
103:03I don't necessarily want to draft Jack Batch, but in a league that's so deep like this, I don't mind taking chances on him.
103:11I'm thinking of the other kid who, who, who's the other guy that we, Benson, he's cheaper than Batch.
103:17Probably. I don't think he's gone off the board.
103:20No, he's still on the board. Yeah. And I do like that Keishon Boutte pick that went a couple of rounds ahead too.
103:27I'm surprised he was available this late too. Do you think he gets traded Boutte?
103:32I don't think so. I think if he would have, it would have happened by now, to be honest with you.
103:39So I'm going to say no. That's just what my gut's telling me now.
103:43All right. So Pete, I'm going to have a conundrum.
103:47There's two picks away. So if these two picks are the picks, it is what it is.
103:52But if we have at the tight end position, Oscar Delp to continue stack share in the saints, or is it Eli
103:59Raritan who, look, I'm sorry, man, but he's available now.
104:02And we've kind of pushed him down the board.
104:05Which direction do you want to go? I would probably go with Eli Raritan.
104:10That's who I would prefer. I think just talent wise, he's better.
104:13He has a chance to be better than Henry.
104:16I don't know that Delp will be better than Johnson.
104:19They both have strong rapport with their quarterbacks. But yeah, I would prefer Raritan.
104:24Hey, I pushed it down a few rounds. Hey, man, we just needed a third tight end at this point.
104:30And we said it first. We did. We sure did.
104:33We said it first. And you heard it second.
104:36FP Shooter said PPR, Brian Thomas Jr. or Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt.
104:40BTJ. Yeah, pretty comfortable BTJ for me. Yep. I'm sitting there saying, is that even rounds?
104:45Even keepers? They're like four rounds apart in redraft streets.
104:48Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt kind of goes neck and neck with Rashad White.
104:52I like the touchdown upside. But BTJ is, as much as we're in on Parker Washington, I think there's enough rounds arbitrage
104:59where BTJ is ahead of Ja'Cory Krosky Merritt comfortably.
105:02So I'm sitting there thinking, do you want to pay the higher?
105:06It's BTJ. Yeah. And Darren Waller goes, what do you make of his comeback?
105:10Is it going to be suitable to some spike weeks?
105:13Is it 40 catches and maybe a few touchdowns?
105:16Is it getting streaky with a Bryce Young breakout?
105:19What do you make of Darren Waller? Yeah. I mean, with Waller, it's really an indictment on how bad these skilled players
105:26are, in my opinion, on this team, outside of Coker and Tett.
105:30Right? Jatavion Sanders. We talked about him last time.
105:33But clearly, I think they don't think extremely high of Sanders at this point, or else they probably wouldn't have brought in Waller.
105:40So he must have felt like he would get an opportunity.
105:44Because at this stage of his career, you'd think he'd maybe want to go to somebody who's a contender or a better team.
105:51And he opted not to. So, yeah, I think that's really an indictment on the room in general.
105:57Hey, let's do one more break, and then we should be about ready for my next pick.
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106:58Man, you love to see it, Pete. This reminds me, because we're here in round 27.
107:03Michael Myers, what's the movie? Austin Power. Where he's at the water fountain.
107:07And he has to pee. I think his goal member, the third one.
107:11Yeah. The one with Beyonce. He's at a fountain.
107:14And he's just peeing. And he's got to keep the flow going.
107:18And he runs out of pee. And it's like he's just shooting everything that he can.
107:23That's kind of what it's like these last couple rounds where you're just trying to stab any active player with a pulse, any stimulus of news.
107:31Yeah, we're here in round 27. You love to see it.
107:35The run on defenses and kickers has happened. I'm looking over.
107:38It's all placeholder one, placeholder two. So no defenses.
107:41The only defense left are the Cardinals. And then the only kickers left are the Panthers and the Browns.
107:47So we had spoke before. We wanted to shift up our roster ship of our kickers and our defenses just a little bit.
107:55And I think we kind of nailed it right this week.
107:58What do you think? Yeah, I think so, too.
108:01And we got some good suggestions by a couple of – there was a veteran in the chat that was talking to
108:08us a little bit about what his thoughts were.
108:11And, yeah, I mean, I definitely agree. You touched on it before.
108:15But, you know, it's like even bad defenses can give you a spike week of 20 points, right?
108:20We see it all the time. That's why I stream defenses.
108:24And so when you think of it like that, it's like there's wide receivers.
108:28This guy is being taken in these rounds that it's like even in the best situation, what's the ceiling?
108:34What's their best pop game that can get them into our line?
108:38Timeout, Pete. Timeout, Pete. Okay, go ahead. Chris Bell or Torrey Horton?
108:42I'll go with the – I'll take the upside in Chris Bell.
108:46This late in the draft, he's healthy. I know we're both Torrey Horton guys.
108:50I think you might be able to get Torrey Horton on the way back too if you still want him.
108:57But Chris Bell practicing, less target competition there in my opinion.
109:00I guess I'd just prefer Bell. Some good news there.
109:03Oh, there goes Torrey Horton, funny enough. And look, he's on my board.
109:08But that's good because I had another player in the queue who I'm excited for.
109:12I won't mention him yet. Once this person makes their pick, I'm going to let you guess who the pick is.
109:19So we're just going to let that person – it's going to marinate.
109:23They've gone Malik Benson, Torrey Horton. Maybe they've been listening to this show.
109:27So it's tremendous what some players are or they're just that sharp.
109:31All right, who's a one wide receiver who I can get right now, Pete, that I can stack with one of my quarterbacks?
109:39Skyler – oh, Skyler Bell. Yes. Skyler Bell, man.
109:41He's 333 and this is 327. Right on the money.
109:45Nobody going crazy. I have not really heard much about him.
109:48We saw DJ Moore go completely off in the first game.
109:52Granted, there was some injury risk there. I think Khalil Shakir – is it right that he has some kind of injury he's dealing with?
110:00All of a sudden, Skyler Bell could just be a latent pick.
110:03But I'm not excited. I don't. I'm not – but I'm sitting there, hey, I got Ray Davis, Skyler Bell, something, something to go with Josh Allen.
110:12Yeah, and for Shakir, the question there about is he injured?
110:16He had the tight rope surgery, which you never want to hear.
110:19But it was good to see him playing in the preseason game, moving around, looking healthy.
110:24So that was a positive for Shakir. Beautiful, man.
110:27With the next two picks, I'm thinking I could end up maybe with another quarterback and maybe just like another stash running back at this point.
110:36And then we're on our merry way. Impressions of this draft, how it's gone.
110:40We've gotten sniped a few times, but we've gotten great value.
110:44And we're not talking about Walmart. We see Brandon Iyuko.
110:47Any intel there? Round 28? Or just this person is Mike Myers at the water fountain just trying to piss out some names?
110:54Yeah, I mean it's just a burned pick. I guess at this point, most of these picks, you're like, how much will they contribute?
111:02Jalen Tolbert's interesting. Skyler Bell, those are not bad picks.
111:05Isaiah Bond, I still think you can get value.
111:08I mean Taequann Thornton's going here. He did get hurt today in practice, it sounded like.
111:13But there's still enough value that I'm not just throwing money away on Brandon Iyuko.
111:18I just don't even think he's playing. Keanu Coleman was still on the board, which is absolutely nuts, Jay.
111:24I mean I know we took Skyler Bell. Coleman I think had a touchdown.
111:28Didn't he have a touchdown? He sure did. And I'm not buying it.
111:32Somebody else can pay up. And they can pay round 28 prices for all I'm concerned because I want nothing to do with him.
111:40Okay. That's fair enough. By the way, Jordan's in here in the house.
111:44By the way, thank you guys so much for watching.
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112:16Jordan, maybe it's Jordan, but it says Jordan 24.
112:19I said, could you rate my team 14, man?
112:22Love, love, love playing in deep leagues like this.
112:25He said, pick 111 in half point PPR. PPR said PPR.
112:29He, he has Jen Daniels. He has Chase Brown, Gentty.
112:32He has Tet, Malik neighbors, Loveland. His flex is Tate, his DST, his Rams, and he's got Fairburn.
112:38I mean, that's pretty interesting of a build for a 14 man, Jay.
112:42I mean, you're getting Chase Brown and Gentty at the, at the one two.
112:46It sounded like, I don't know if it was at the full turn, but he was still able to manage getting neighbors and Tet.
112:54That's a really, really awesome build for your first four.
112:57And then you get an elite quarterback with Jaden Daniels and you managed to get Colson Loveland.
113:02This is a, that's pretty rare. Now it is half point PPR, Jay.
113:07So maybe Chase Brown, maybe slipped and maybe he wasn't as high as we're thinking.
113:11Maybe it was neighbors that was in the second round and Chase Brown fell a little bit, but I really liked this build.
113:19Yeah. And you get to flex with Carnell Tate.
113:22I, I think it's one of those things where in a 14, there's little to no room for error, but if there
113:29is error, you can tight rope a team like this.
113:32And that's, that's the team that I like in a 14 team.
113:36If you were to tell us, this is what you would get in a 12 team league, we'd be saying, yeah, that's pretty good.
113:43So on that scale, it's an awesome 14 team league.
113:46So good on you, Jordan, 24. But by the way, our, our guy, Brad finally pulled the trigger on Bryce Lance.
113:53Uh, so he just took them. I didn't think.
113:56Yeah. You can have him. Yeah. I love it though.
113:59I think that's a great pick. Yeah. Yeah. So do I, uh, Robert, uh, Goldman's in the house.
114:05I know Robert, a long time listener, uh, from time at face off.
114:09Appreciate you watching the show. He said, interesting show.
114:12Uh, thanks so much, man. Thank you for, for watching and supporting us.
114:16Uh, Joden said, thanks a lot, of course. And yeah, like I said, uh, just so you get, so while you guys
114:23are listening, just talk a little bit about in season plans for myself and Jeremiah.
114:28So, uh, me and Jeremiah on Thursday nights in season, uh, before kickoff, uh, we're going to do a, probably an hour long show.
114:36We're going to give you visually our rankings, uh, for, you know, the week of where we have players.
114:42Um, so we'll give you guys enough time a couple of days before Sunday locks to check in and get an idea of where we are.
114:50We'll also give a couple of betting plays as well for that Thursday night football game and maybe anything that we'd like,
114:57uh, for early looks towards the Sunday game. So we're excited for that.
115:01That's going to be a really fun show. That's going to be on Thursday nights.
115:06Uh, and then for Tuesdays, I'm going to be doing waiver wired at 7am, uh, in season.
115:11And then Jeremiah, uh, I believe you're going to be doing, uh, DSTs and kickers on your side, uh, as well.
115:18Um, when do you plan on dropping those for yourself?
115:21Yeah, the, the DST kickers I'll drop Sunday night.
115:24And as soon as I can get it posted, I believe in people getting things.
115:29Usually what I'll do is I'll talk about as I go, Devin Neal, cool upside back there.
115:34Uh, I'll, I'll talk about, Hey, the Monday night game, a player gets hurt, you know, there's action there for a defense that you could attack.
115:43But I do believe in looking at some of the Vegas lines for the next week and getting those numbers out real
115:50quick because you want to just have some action for the people.
115:53Um, ran really hot on kickers last year and defenses.
115:57Shev and I had three consecutive weeks where we went sub 1% rostered defenses on ESPN format.
116:02I go by ESPN and sleeper because that's what most people play right in their, their managed leagues.
116:08It's a lot of fun. Kyme Fairbairn. Somebody mentioned Fairbairn as their kicker in one of these teams.
116:14He was just clutch, man. To get him above 50% roster ship took forever.
116:18And we just rode that train all the way up.
116:21Jason Myers was another one on Seattle, the Superbowl champs.
116:24He crushed. So it's a whole lot of fun and it's fun getting knowledge from you, Pete, because I know you're a
116:31real sharp gamer in the defensive streets. And it's going to be fun Thursday nights, chopping it up, maybe posting out some,
116:38some bets that we may be interested in. And all this player knowledge, all the step chart from round 20 to 30,
116:45you're probably looking at, if you just do an exercise of round 20 to round 30, that's probably going to make up
116:53a majority of your waiver wire for the season.
116:55Like you're reading tomorrow's paper today by looking at these.
116:59So an exercise you can do is look at a lot of these drafts and just look at the deep cuts and
117:06just see, okay, Jack Petch, maybe a week one waiver wire pick.
117:09I got him in round 25. He goes off.
117:12He looked really good in preseason, but maybe it's Malik Benson to what we were talking about before.
117:18And he goes to team two. So these are all just things that you want to tap in player profiler.
117:24Pete and I have a lot going on and I'm going to take Joe Flacco with my last pick.
117:30He's my fourth quarterback and I didn't get Joe Burrow.
117:34So the cope is I'm going to take what's not here.
117:37That's a smart plan. And to close out, by the way, just the content plan in the future.
117:43Yeah. So and Robert said, you know, love your defense rankings.
117:46I just scream. And Robert, from that perspective, I'm still going to do DST.
117:51It's just going to be over on my sub stack as well.
117:55So you'll be able to get Jeremiah's here on player profiler.
117:58If you want mine, you'll be able to get mine there.
118:02A lot of that, a lot of Jay's rankings and his DST stuff.
118:06We're going to collaborate off of each other too as well.
118:09So, you know, you'll get some, some similar thoughts there.
118:13I just won't be doing the videos anymore. I'm just trying to get out on written form just because it's going to
118:20be quicker and faster, just a little bit more balanced for my life in season.
118:24But you can also follow me on sub stack there.
118:28I just sent it in a chat. You can subscribe for free.
118:31Doesn't cost anything and you'll be able to get content there.
118:35And then Thursdays will be fun, Jay, because we'll definitely talk about our defense rankings because, you know, you'll have done a
118:42show and I'll have my, my DST content up already.
118:45So those will be fun shows excited for it.
118:48We've got pretty much one round left here. Joe Flacco, honestly, a really, really crazy value.
118:53I know it sounds silly to be excited about like players this deep and, and what have you, but I'm honestly shocked.
119:00Flacco is there with your last pick at pick 30.
119:03He's been, you know, he's, he's played every single year as a backup for the last three, four years.
119:09He's always getting in. So really, really love that pick.
119:13That was a sharp pick by you. It's funny.
119:15Thank you. And look, your LaQuinn Allen, who you love.
119:19He was on my mind. Somebody I thought about.
119:22Mac Jones went in round 29 and that just triggered.
119:25Okay. I'm not going to play the Mac Jones lottery at this point.
119:29I'm just going to get a stack with my first 1.3 overall pick.
119:33Jamar chase. And for some reason, every single season, Joe Flacco gets on the football field.
119:38Don't know if that's a bad omen for Joe Burrow.
119:41Same time to the story that we're telling for this team in this chapter, the story would lay out in success.
119:48Joe Flacco seeing the field and my God, somebody who could give 17 targets to Jamar chase.
119:53Like, yes, I meet all the way up. And he's my fourth quarterback as well, because I have Deshaun Watson for the Browns.
120:01And I have that with Casey Concepcion. And then I have Tyler Shuck with Chris Olave and Jordan Tyson, who I got the price paid up for Olave.
120:10And then I got a discount on Jordan Tyson.
120:13And then now I have a stack share with Joe Flacco and Chase.
120:17And then Josh Allen, I have the craziest backdoor of Ray Davis and Skylar Bell.
120:22So you love to see it. And, you know, we'll see what happens with the team.
120:27Let me read it off, Pete, and just give your impression.
120:30I'll just explain it. I kind of talked about how I felt about it.
120:35You can talk about it. And then we'll wrap the show up.
120:38Jamar chase round one. Olave round two. Jeremiah love falls around three.
120:42Josh Allen falls around four. Parker Washington falls around five.
120:45Jadarian Price round six. We reach a little for Casey Concepcion in round seven.
120:50Round eight, a little dip on Tyson. Jonah Coleman at round nine.
120:54Tyler Shuck to complete the Saints stack with Olave and Tyson in round 10.
120:58Our first tight end was Isaiah Likely round 11.
121:01We keep the tradition of the Cowboys. I don't know what we'll do if we never get them.
121:07The Cowboys kickers in round 12. Emmitt Johnson round 13.
121:10Seahawks defense in round 14. Back to back round 15, 16.
121:14Ray Davis and DeMond Claiborne. Our second tight end in round 17.
121:17Greg Dulcich and Caleb Douglas following in round 18.
121:20So two Dolphins there. Round 19. Deshaun Watson completes the stack with Casey Concepcion.
121:25We get the Saints defense. Sean Tucker, Tampa Bay Buccaneers kickers.
121:28Jets defense. Round 24. Newly signed Najee Harris with the Giants.
121:32Jack Betch in round 25. We'll see if he's a Raiders receiver we want.
121:36Eli Raritan. We tried to push him down the board.
121:39We sure did. And we got him in round 26.
121:43Chris Bell. Skylar Bell. Did not mean to do that.
121:4627, 28 respectively. Devin Neal. An upside. Low key play in the Saints backfield.
121:50And then Joe Flacco to wrap it up in round 30.
121:54So your thoughts, Pete? Yeah, I think this was a good draft.
121:58I was happy with the results. I think we got some really nice values.
122:02And I'm happy with it. Running back, still a little dicey.
122:06We'll see how it goes. But we know this is a wide receiver heavy format.
122:10So, you know, that's a positive there. And again, it is best ball, right?
122:15And so, you know, either way, we don't get to worry too much about who are we going to start.
122:21So, yeah, we love that. And by the way, still 21 people live here on Player Profiler on the YouTube side.
122:28So, again, thank you guys so much for watching.
122:31Make sure you guys tune in. If you guys like mine and Jay's content, you know, we are coming out with content every single week.
122:39Me and Jay are doing at least two videos together.
122:42And then I've been posting, you know, some videos here and there.
122:46I just had Jeff Muller on Injury Doctor over at Fantasy Points.
122:50He's going to be dropping a video with me that's coming out later this week.
122:54Me and Jeremiah are probably going to do a mock draft with live players, a lot of sharp players earlier this week as well.
123:02So excited for that. Looks like we have one more question and then we'll send us out of here.
123:08Hey, man, give me a Mecca Buka. It's all the way.
123:12I love Terry McLaurin. Happy PR. Send it for Mecca Buka.
123:15The ADP dip that you might get from the injury for a Buka will still have him ahead of Terry McLaurin.
123:22So, for all my money, I want somebody like a Mecca Buka.
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