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1:03Today, we're going to be going over some ESPN ADPs that are absolutely insane.
1:07I would love to say that they surprise me, but they don't by any stretch of the imagination.
1:12But it's July. We're rounding into redraft season is finally here.
1:16We can just body bag the dynasty takes. Best balls falling off the grid.
1:20We're going to be getting into some redraft business and we're doing it here today.
1:24So let's just get right into it. Let's get a little number one here.
1:29We're going to be doing ESPN ADPs to be aware of.
1:32And let's start with the early big dogs. We're going to do running backs first.
1:37How about Boom? A little, where is he? Where is he?
1:40Devon Achan. Devon Achan, a man I love, a man I have got just tremendous respect for, incredible running back.
1:46I would say almost on the same tier as Bijon and Gibbs, but his ADP, it's pretty out of whack this year.
1:53His ESPN ADP is 10, the ECR rank. So we're going to be doing expert consensus rankings today, just because a lot
1:59of the ADPs for redrafts are not really indicative of what we're going to be looking at.
2:05Come real draft season, August, early September. And I wanted to incorporate the fantasy football landscape into this, right?
2:10So we've got player profiler guys in here. We've got Matt's rankings.
2:14We've got fantasy pros. We've got underdog Yahoo. Everybody's mixed into the ECR.
2:18He's going seven spots ahead of consensus rankings. He's going ahead of Jefferson, Gentie and cooks.
2:23And I'm not necessarily ready to give you guys the pros and cons today.
2:27I do want to shout out Chris Johnson as best comparable, which does say, you know, Achan does always have a Chris Johnson season in him.
2:35So superstar back, complete player, pass catcher, everything. Obviously there's concerns about the offense.
2:39Don't get me wrong. I still love him as a top 15 pick, maybe even top 12.
2:44If I've had a few beers and I've always had a few beers, but you're not really getting much of a value here.
2:51I think you're probably drafting him at his ceiling.
2:54So that one makes it pretty tough. And let's move on to another one here.
2:59Let's move on to another guy. That's the, the ECR rankings pretty wild on this one.
3:03And that's going to be Saquon Barkley. Saquon, his ESPN ADP is 14.
3:07His consensus ranking is 26. So consensus doesn't even have him as a second round pick, which is funny.
3:13I would love to see those ranks adjust. Maybe it's an age thing.
3:17Maybe it's a mileage thing. Maybe they don't believe in this offense overall.
3:21I get all those concerns. But I mean, you are paying big premium prices for Saquon, whether you're drafting on ESPN, whether
3:28you're drafting on sleeper, a lot of these are going to have him as just a name brand value pick for all the obvious reasons.
3:35So it's still going to be a focal point of the offense.
3:39Eagles offensive line is going to be better, but he does need them to be better or else you're going to be getting the Saquon from last year.
3:48Yards before contact fell off pretty sizably. And there's just, there's a weird middle ground between who he was in 2024 and who he was last year.
3:56And whether or not he gets to that place is going to be pretty much the, uh, how we remember this late, late run for him.
4:04Let's get to our next guy here. It's going to be Jeremiah Retzlaff.
4:08This is a huge one here. ESPN ADP of 15.
4:11So they almost have him going at the turn.
4:13The ECR ranking is 35. So you've got a 20 spot difference from where the big brains have Jeremiah love going and
4:20where we think that, uh, and where ESPN. And I don't know who does the ranking for ESPN.
4:25If it's Monica McNutt, um, or if it's a Dan or Vlosky, whoever it is, I'm not 100% positive on, but I
4:32do know that this is going to be the biggest difference in, uh, in ADPs other than the next guy, actually, which I'm looking at now.
4:40Which is pretty funny. And, you know, the pros great receiving prospect drafted third, overall bad defense, passing volume, obviously the concerns for anybody drafting him at 15.
4:49Cardinals are going to be bad, mate. There's no getting around it.
4:52Uh, the touchdown opportunity is probably going to lag other teams and Tyler Algier is good enough to be frustrating at times, probably not season long.
5:00Uh, but yeah, that's good. That's going to be a funky one.
5:04And one that I think managers are probably going to be, you know, your, your, your Charlie casual is not going to
5:10have a problem with that pick at 15th overall.
5:13And I don't even know how much I do just because I want everybody to be wrong, but man, that's a, uh, that's a toughie.
5:21Let's get to our next one here. Cause we're just going to be a power hour show guys.
5:26We're just ripping through these pretty, uh, pretty sizably.
5:29And that's going to be old King Henry King Henry's ESPN ADP is 16th.
5:33His ECR rank is 38th. It's a difference of 22 spots.
5:37He's going ahead of Drake, London, Omari and Hampton, Trey McBride, which I don't really have a problem with a couple of those Hampton.
5:44I love London. I love, but McBride, that's going to be a, uh, a roster building thing.
5:49Obviously his touchdown projections are going to be up there.
5:52Um, he's still going to be a big yards per carry yards after contact yards per rush attempt kind of, or yards over expected guy.
6:00And there's just not a lot of guys that can single-handedly win you a week.
6:04Like he can week to week. They improve the offensive line, but if you're picking Henry at 16, what are you concerned about?
6:11Uh, his metrics are starting to slip a little bit from an advanced perspective, right?
6:16His career, career low in missed tackles per carry, his age, his long speed decrease, uh, hamstring risk, things like that.
6:22There's just, it's going to be a funky year, you know, does he still got it or does he not?
6:28And if he does, this is probably a great pick, even a good one, maybe.
6:33And if he doesn't, then, um, you're going to be pounding sand.
6:36And I don't really love for my guys to pound sand around here.
6:40You're, you're my boys out there. And in some cases you're my gals.
6:44So let's get to our next one here. And then we can get to some, uh, some, some early young bucks.
6:51This is going to be our last big dog.
6:53And that's going to be Josh Jacobs and ECR of 45 and ESPN rank of 25.
6:58So man, they are split big time on this one.
7:0120 point difference, pretty much going ahead of AJ Brown, going ahead of pickings, going ahead of Kenneth Walker.
7:07And I mean, I made this argument on the show last week.
7:11There's not a lot of changes for him. You know, the legal situation is not going to be anything this year.
7:17Uh, he's still a focal point of the offense.
7:20He's not that old. Uh, and he's tough to bring down.
7:23Um, but if you're looking at him at the two, three turn, he's a little older than these elite guys that are going around there.
7:31You know, your chase Browns, your Kenneth Walker's, and even some of these young receivers, not a big play guy.
7:37So it really is going to have to be grinding it out and get into the red zone.
7:42And then, um, you know, there is a little bit of buzz.
7:46I'm not worried about Jacobs this year. This is a little high for me, but, um, man, the difference in what the
7:53pros are thinking and what's actually going on here is it's stark and it does make you wonder a little bit.
7:59And we all have to be a little humble from time to time.
8:03And there's nothing wrong with that. It's what keeps us grounded.
8:06It's what keeps us in relationships. I hope. All right, let's get to our next one here.
8:11And that's going to be Javante Williams. Now we're getting out of the, we're getting away from the big dogs and we're getting to the shelter boys.
8:20So an ESPN ADP of 48, uh, 35, sorry.
8:22An ECR of 48. That's a difference of 13.
8:25So those differences are starting to squeeze down a little bit as we get down the board.
8:30He's going ahead of Garrett Wilson, Tetora McMillan, and Travis A.
8:34Shan nailed it. First time on the pod, getting it without hesitation.
8:37I've been building towards that one. I put a little shock collar on my foot so that if I said, um, ETN,
8:44I get a little going and, uh, you know, that combined with a little caffeine, maybe a little blow, always get your, get your morning starting off.
8:52Right. So, you know, there's not a really whole lot to argue here.
8:56You know, he's a clear, it's really just about Kenny replicate last year.
9:00And is there a ceiling for him to grow?
9:03He's the clear guy there. Um, catches a lot of passes, goal line back.
9:07He can be a big playback. Problem is that, you know, some of the guys going around here, they're just sexy.
9:13And the ceiling does depend on the offense continuing to stay elite, which I don't have any issues with, but you know,
9:20if you're picking him on ESPN, that's at the end of the third round, you're probably feeling pretty good, especially if you nail your first two picks.
9:28So I don't have much of a problem with, with this one.
9:32It is interesting to see the ECR rank is 48 on him because that's probably one of the biggest ones along with
9:39Saquon about the differential between platform ADPs and where he's going in big money leagues.
9:43So there's not a whole lot of, um, you know, people just want to be aroused.
9:48And I guess he's not the most arousing pick in the world.
9:52So I'm tough to get arousal out of, and he, he, he does it for me a little bit.
9:57So, uh, let's move on to just a fan favorite anywhere you go.
10:01Cam Scadaboo, Scadabooting around here. He's got an ESPN rank of 38 and ECR rank of 55, you know, ESPN, New York media.
10:08He's on WWE events. He's, uh, doing backflips at Savannah bananas game.
10:12This is just a guy with a lot of buzz, a lot of name value, and he's an awesome player.
10:18And I love him. Now his rank is a differential of 17 points from ESPN to consensus.
10:23He's going ahead of Colston Loveland, Zay flowers, Devante Adams.
10:26I'm mixed on those guys. I love Loveland this year.
10:29I love land. Uh, do you really love the land?
10:32Or are you just saying it because you love it?
10:35I love land. I love land. Uh, Zay flowers, I think is in for another continual breakout and Adams is obviously steady Betty here.
10:43So, I mean, what are the concerns? You're taking him at the beginning of the fourth, which I don't think is too
10:49early, especially, especially if it's a go get your guy situation, uh, dislocated his ankle.
10:54That's pretty bad. Um, Tyrone Tracy, I think is in a, one of the more impressive and effective backups.
11:00I know that's a sentiment that Matt echoes consistently.
11:02Uh, and we could see a slower start for him, much like guys that have had this injury before do get when they come back.
11:10Yeah. I mean, this is a tricky one. I don't have problem.
11:14I think Katta Scadaboo is going to be in for a good year.
11:18I think he's one of the true workhorses in the league.
11:21And I don't think he feels pain. And if he does, that's what the painkillers are going to be for that.
11:27He'll be playing on a throwback to the eighties and nineties guys.
11:31So that's okay with me. Just be aware. If you want some cam Scadaboo, you're going to have to pay top dollar market price.
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12:38In these ESPN leagues, just like this next guy here, which I think is very, very interesting to see him so high.
12:45Bucky Irving, who I personally love and would send money out of my wallet to.
12:49He's got an ESPN rank of 47, an ECR rank of 58.
12:53This is just one of the more maligned players across fantasy in the offseason.
12:57You might find an analyst or two here that still thinks he can bounce back and recover and return to that 2024 form.
13:04I think that's within the realm of possibility. I think he's a talented rusher.
13:08I think he can make guys miss like some of the best in the league.
13:13He's obviously just not very big, but what the fuck?
13:16You guys have no problem with Jameer Gibbs going first overall.
13:19They're roughly in the same size range. Kyron Williams.
13:22Buck's offensive line was trash last year from injuries only.
13:25Injuries only. Baker Mayfield another year healthier. Got a great offensive coordinator coming in.
13:29I think there's a big bounce back from Bucky coming.
13:32The problem is that he's going ahead of Terry McLaurin, Quinshawn Judkins, Jaden Daniels.
13:36Guys who I think can also be great anchors of your roster.
13:40And obviously there's pros and cons for all of them, but I like Bucky falling because I think the return on investment is strong.
13:47I don't like him at 47th overall. ESPN, they're getting my goat with this one.
13:52I mean, they're not scared of Sean Tucker. They're not scared of Kenny G.
13:56They're not scared of Baker Mayfield ninth straight year with a new play caller.
14:00They're not scared. And you know what? ESPN's not scared.
14:03They're scared of everything. So if that's the case, then maybe we need to keep an eye on it.
14:09All right. Speaking of Quinshawn Judkins, that's going to be our next guy here.
14:14Where are you, Quinshawn? He's got an ESPN ADP of 50 and an expert consensus ranking of 60.
14:19So we got a 10 point difference there. Not too big, but he's going ahead.
14:24And this is what puts it in perspective, right?
14:26The going ahead is important here because it's going to give you the full board.
14:31Lad McConkie, Trevion Henderson, and Carnell Tate. And I know that Quinshawn is a bright spot on a terrible team.
14:37Todd Munkin is going to want to use him heavily.
14:40He has 20 touch per game potential. This is widely projected to be the worst offensive line in football.
14:46They lost all of their starters from last year.
14:48And I know that means that there's opportunity there, but so many moving parts.
14:53The quarterback stinks. Dylan Samson is a really nice pass catcher.
14:56I just think he's going to be a grinder and he's a really good player.
15:01I got no problem with that. But going ahead of some guys that I think could be lightning rods on your team
15:07is going to end up being an issue. And I don't like issues.
15:11I like happy tissues. I like big, fat, happy tissues here.
15:15All right, let's get to one. We got one more in this negative section, and then we're going to get some values.
15:21Values, values, values. Let's get to our boy Aaron Jones here, who's got an ESPN ADP of 86 and an ECR of 109.
15:28One of the biggest stark differences in ranking in ADP.
15:31He's going ahead of Rico Dowdle, Brian Thomas Jr., Caleb Williams.
15:35And when I say go ahead, these are the guys going just about directly in front of him.
15:40And I added this one on here just because the Vikings backfield is really interesting for me.
15:45I think there's a lot of opportunity there. I just don't know where it's going to go.
15:50I really like him in other drafts where he's a late ADP pass catching flyer.
15:55He's always been a shark at the goal line or in the red zone.
15:59And he's a veteran that they can trust. The problem here is that Jordan Mason, he's just a much better runner.
16:06He's not going to get you anything in the passing game.
16:09But I know I say on almost every show that I can that I think Jordan Mason last year auditioned to be
16:16the running back for this team for this year and next year.
16:19And I think he's earned that. And I think this is the year that he gets a little bit more of the keys.
16:26I don't know if it's a 1A, 1B situation or if it's a 60% snap share thing.
16:31I'm not sure. But I just wanted to highlight Jones here because anyone who's thinking that this could be a nice, you
16:38know, your RB4, I think that you're going to be surprised how much earlier he's going.
16:43And he's a brand name on the board that people are going to say, you know, your casual guys, they're not going to remember who Jordan Mason is.
16:51They're going to think that the Vikings are going to be better this year.
16:56And then they smash that click button on Aaron Jones.
16:59And you're going to be stuck with some bullshit kicker with your next pick.
17:03And we don't want that. Now, let's get to what I'm calling the Costco hot dog section, which is just premium values,
17:10values that are delicious, values that we can take advantage of, values that make you go.
17:15I wish I drafted on ESPN more because these rankings and these ADPs, well, they're mentally departed.
17:20They're gone. They have left the building. And our first one here is a fan favorite of the Bass household.
17:26Let's get, come on, get your butt in here.
17:29Where's the loading? Let's get Mr. J. Lynn Warren on the screen here.
17:32He's got an ESPN ADP of 83, but the experts have him at 68.
17:37So you're looking at a 15 spot differential. He's going behind Jordan Tyson, Travis Kelsey.
17:41And I love this one. First mentioned on the pod Broncos DST.
17:45And then the pros and cons it's, you know, with these guys are obvious.
17:49You're watching a redraft player profiler show in July.
17:52You know the pros with him. He's an incredible pass catching back, great pass blocker.
17:56Steelers offensive line is far, at least from a pass blocking and run blocking perspective.
18:01It's split because of how Aaron Rodgers plays. We don't really know how good they actually are, but we know they played well as a unit last year.
18:10The metrics back that up. And the concerns here are that Rico Dowdle will get touches in early down work.
18:16So I don't know. Can Rico Dowdle go to his third team in three years and put up a thousand yards with his old coach, Mike McCarthy?
18:24Maybe. But with an ESPN ADP of 83, I think I just Warren's this more talented back.
18:29And I think they're going to be a little bit better this year.
18:33Give me Warren and give me him pretty handily.
18:36That's one of those guys who, like, if you're looking for what Aaron Jones can be for you, I think that Jalen
18:42Warren can be that plus a whole lot more.
18:45So let's get to our next guy. And that's going to be Ramondre freaking Stevenson.
18:50Ramondre has got an ESPN ADP of 102 and an expert consensus ranking of 82.
18:54So you're looking at a 20-point differential between what ESPN wants and what you are going to do.
19:00ESPN's probably just looking at, what, second-year Trevion Henderson.
19:02I don't know if Diana Rossini reported this or not, but he could be more explosive this year.
19:08I don't know about all that. It's Josh McDaniels, backfield.
19:11They're always going to split. He's probably going to be the one-yard goal lineback.
19:15Huge discount versus how he ended the year last year.
19:18He's just not getting the respect. Improved offensive line for the Patriots.
19:22And look, I know that Trevion Henderson is supremely talented.
19:25I know that he's probably going to take a step forward this year.
19:29But until I see it with my own eyes, I know how this team operates.
19:33And they would be dramatic for them to go against type if that were to be the case.
19:39So, yeah, let's get you some – you're noticing with these guys, like, you're going to be able to just hammer all-star
19:46players early and maybe even quarterback and tight end early if you want in these leagues because you've just got guys that
19:52I think are going to be contributors for your roster, going to be going anywhere between 80 and 120 on a lot of these teams.
20:00And I think this next guy who's another – like Bucky Irving, he's another one of the more maligned players of the offseason.
20:07That's going to be RJ Harvey. He's got an ESPN ADP of 108, an expert consensus ranking of 90.
20:13So, he's going 18 spots behind where the experts got him.
20:16He's going behind Wondell Robinson, Jake Ferguson, and Cameron Dicker.
20:19So, we've got kickers going ahead of RJ Harvey.
20:22And what are the cons for him, right? He's not a bell cow in a Sean Payton offense.
20:27J.K. Dobbins looked good last year. Jonah Coleman gets added.
20:30And he's not really the best between-the-tackles runner. Obviously, his rushing metrics were nothing to write home about last year.
20:36But what is he? He's the Sean Payton pass-catching back.
20:39And he's an explosive runner if he can find the right lane or bounce outside in the right appropriate way.
20:45That's the guy I want. I don't want the plotter in this offense.
20:49I don't want 15 for 58 and then maybe a touchdown every other game.
20:54I want the guy who's going to be catching passes, who can still run the ball if the play is right, and
21:00is going to be used in the red zone, whether it's rushing or passing.
21:04He showed that last year. So, look, this is not a guy I want to rely on heavily.
21:10I never want to do that with Sean Payton guys not named Alvin Kamara.
21:14But we can't look for the Alvin Kamara role, and then when somebody's finally in it, say, I want between-the-tackles 4.5 yards per carry guy.
21:22No. Suck me. Suck me on that one. It pisses me off.
21:25It annoys me. And I'm looking forward to everybody being wrong about that one.
21:30Now, this is another fun one here. We're really getting into, like, the make-or-break roster molds.
21:35And our next guy is going to be Blake Corum, backup running back to the stars literally in Los Angeles.
21:41He's got an ESPN ADP of 120 and expert consensus ranking of 110.
21:45So, you're starting to see these differentials shrink a little bit, just 10 spots there.
21:49Who's he going behind, are you asking? This is the best one so far.
21:53He's going behind Matthew Golden and Travis Hunter. And that is not guys I would select ahead of Blake Corum.
21:59And this one's open and shut case, right? He was number one in EPA per rush last year amongst all qualified running backs.
22:06Number one. So, he's going to get you what you need.
22:10He's on probably the best offense in the league, probably the best rushing attack in the league overall.
22:15Clear wide running back two. So, alternating snaps could be a low-end wide receiver one if Kyron misses time and you're getting him around 120.
22:23I think that's incredible. Obviously, there's a little bit more contingency with this pick than some of the other ones.
22:29But trust the offense. Trust the player. Trust the structure.
22:32I just think guys like this usually, they just don't go that late.
22:36Like, you know, Alexander Madison in his prime was going seventh round.
22:40That's fucking crazy. So, why do we have a guy that's a much better player on a much better offense with much
22:46better opportunity who's already seeing the field regularly? Same scheme.
22:49Or at least same coaching tree. Going much later.
22:52I don't know. It's confusing. But it is funny.
22:55This next one's funny as well because now we're getting into linchpin season.
22:59You know, this is going to be where your big brain picks.
23:02No one's going to celebrate this pick when you make it.
23:06But you are. And that's going to be Chris Rodriguez.
23:09Chris Rodriguez is going at 173rd overall on ESPN.
23:11141st expert consensus ranking. That's a 32-point differential. So, Chris Rodriguez is free basically compared to where he's going to be going in most other platforms.
23:19Going behind Omar Cooper Jr., Jalen McMillan, and Jordan Love, just to give you some perspective there.
23:24What are the pros? The pros are he could be between the tackles and goal line back for a Liam Cohen offense.
23:31Very valuable stuff. Got that nice contract. He's played with Liam Cohen before.
23:35He's very good after contact. Just things that are going to need to be defined in this Jaguars offense because we don't
23:42really know for sure if Tootin's that guy, although I do like Tootin.
23:46The problem here is that he might just be a Jag in more ways than one.
23:51He's literally a Jaguar, and he might be just a guy.
23:54I don't know if reuniting with Cohen is what we painted out to be.
23:58But at 173rd overall, you bet your ass this is going to be a guy that I'm smashing the hell out of.
24:05Imagine if you could get prime Jeff Wilson on an offense like the 49ers.
24:09That might be what you're getting with Chris Rodriguez here.
24:12You guys hopefully show up here for the Jeff Wilson mentions.
24:16Those are big for me, and they're big for the platform.
24:19I love a big throwback mention here. All right, let's talk about one of player profilers' more intriguing opportunities this year.
24:25We mentioned Cam Scadaboo. We got to mention Tyrone Tracy, who has got an ESPN ADP of 190, an ECR of 128, a 62-spot differential.
24:33You're talking basically four or five rounds between where he's going in ESPN rankings and where he's going in ECR.
24:39He's going behind Tanks Bigsby, Denzel Boston, and CJ Stroud.
24:42And it's as simple as this, guys. If Cam Scadaboo is either not the player that he was last year because of
24:49injury or the staff wants to just make it a little bit more of a rotation because of said injury or just,
24:55I don't know, maybe the concussions early on set CTE.
24:58I don't know what's going on. I'm still drafting Scadaboo, don't get me wrong, but this is a really good backup and
25:05a guy who could still see the field as is.
25:08We've got Rashad White as his best comparable player, and I think that's exactly what he could be.
25:14You know, how Rashad White was used in Tampa was, you know, a couple, it was sporadic at times, but he still
25:20had a defined role, and I think you could still get that from him.
25:24And at 190, goodness gracious, great balls fire. I love that.
25:28I think it's hot. I think he's a handsome man, stays out of trouble, thick thighs, just the kind of stuff we're looking for.
25:35So let us take a quick ad here, and when we come back, it's time for some catchy boys.
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27:28DraftCat doing absolute numbers. Make sure you guys are taking full agenda of that.
27:33The Player Profiler team put so much great work into that from player breakdowns to team analysis.
27:38Rankings are incredible. You're seeing them very, very, the expert consensus rankings.
27:41You can tell they've got the DraftKit because they're not too far off from the work that we're putting in here.
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27:55fantasy football space has to offer here, which is not going to be what you think when you see who our first
28:01wide receiver is going to end up being here.
28:04We're talking wide receiver values on ESPN. And that is going to be, let's start off with a banger.
28:10Matthew Golden. Matthew Golden has an ESPN ADP of 112.
28:13Experts have him at 137. That's a 25 point differential, two rounds for Sant.
28:17Would you rather have Matthew Golden tomorrow or Santana Moss at his ripe old age?
28:22You tell me. That's his best comparable player right there.
28:25Will they use him like Santana Moss? Who's to say?
28:28But here's what the kicker. He's going ahead of Ricky Pearsall, Jordan Addison, and Casey Concepcion.
28:32Now, if you think Matthew Golden is going to break out, oh, shit, this is a good pick going outside the top 110.
28:39Green Bay thinning out the wide receiver rooms. Got a much better chance than Jordan Reed to play in two wide receiver sets.
28:46And the film was better than the box score last year.
28:50I mean, this is a player who Jordan Love costs him about 30 points.
28:54Now, does that make us feel any better about it?
28:57Is what his rookie season? Probably not. So, you know, you're just, you're banking on a pretty decent pick for a guy
29:04to maybe not even necessarily be a breakout, but to take a big step forward.
29:08And when you've got Christian Watson, who's already out of the box, Jaden Reed, who I think is a great player, Tucker
29:15Craft, who I think is, when he's healthy, a tier one tight end.
29:19And then, of course, the offense still rolls around Josh Jacobs in that run game.
29:24I just don't know if I'm interested in 112th overall, 137 when I'm starting to get into like, okay, who's got good
29:30ROI potential and not going to cost me anything.
29:33Then I'm feeling a little bit spicier about it.
29:36But that's just, that's bottle service prices for me.
29:38And I've never been a bottle service guy. I've always preferred to either get blackout drunk at the pregame, bring a flask
29:45in, or just polish off some empties that I see around the bar.
29:49And that's really never done me wrong here. Let's get to our next guy.
29:53And this one's going to be maybe a little bit surprising to you all out there, to my Tennessee Titans fans.
30:00Carnell Tate, ESPN ADP of 55, 63rd overall. You're looking at an eight point differential, not bad.
30:05And you're going to notice with these wide receivers, there's actually not a lot of guys going higher, not a lot of
30:12wide receivers going much higher on ESPN than expert consensus rankings.
30:15There's a shitload of them going way later, which is interesting.
30:18And some really good ones too. But Carnell Tate here, he's going ahead of Jalen Waddle.
30:23He's going ahead of Luther Burden. He's going ahead of Basil Tootin just to round out those positional groups.
30:29I really love him. We're really high on him at player profiler.
30:32We've got him at 19th overall. So you're talking about a top 20 wide receiver going ESPN ADP of 55.
30:39It's not bad. Just an interesting stark differential. You know, who are you taking him ahead of is what it comes down
30:45to really, not necessarily where you're taking him. Rookie ceiling might, his rookie ceiling might not be that high if Brian Dayball
30:52ends up being, you know, this fat chode that he's been these last couple years.
30:56Offensive line could be an issue. Cam Ward, can you take a step forward?
31:01I believe all those things are possible. I'm not worried about any of the competition here.
31:06Waddle is really just, he is what he is, nothing more.
31:09Calvin Ridley, dust in a bag, all that stuff.
31:12So I like Carnell Tate. It's just interesting to see him going much further ahead of ADP compared to some of the other platforms.
31:19This next guy also up there. So where do you got, you had the young calf.
31:24Wait, you had the young calf in Carnell Tate.
31:27How about we have the old bull? How about we grab it by the wiener here?
31:31As you guys know, we're fond of. Devontae Adams going ESPN ADP of 42, expert consensus rankings of 49.
31:37So only seven spots ahead. But, you know, if you're thinking you're going to get a linchpin value here on Devontae Adams,
31:44which a lot of drafters are, I've seen him go with the four or five turn in a lot of other platforms.
31:51You're not going to get that opportunity on ESPN.
31:53He looked pretty damn good last year. Separation is still incredible.
31:57Best offense in the league, high double-digit touchdown potential, all those things.
32:00He's going ahead of T. Higgins. He's going ahead of Emeka Ibuka.
32:04And he's going ahead of Terry McLaurin. I don't have a problem with Terry McLaurin.
32:08I think that's a toss-up. I don't even have much of a problem with Ibuka if you think that that's going to
32:15be more of what we saw at the end of last year than beginning.
32:19Going ahead of T. Higgins is like psycho ex-girlfriend crazy.
32:22He's getting older, boys. He's getting older. He slowed down later in the end of the season last year.
32:28And McVay always likes to do things a little bit different.
32:32If you're not Puka, if you're not Todd Gurley, if you're not Prime Cooper Cup, he's going to be in his bag for the next season.
32:39So I also want to keep an eye on Matthew Stafford.
32:43See if he's, is he able to have two consecutive great seasons in a row?
32:47I hope so. He's talented enough to. But this is a guy who was the wide receiver 22 over the final eight games of the season.
32:55Hamstring, age, whatever have you. You're just not getting a value like I think you are in some other leagues.
33:01Okay. That's actually it for guys that are going ahead of ECR.
33:05How about some guys that are going behind? And let's start off with a guy that pisses me off.
33:11Um, I think that's fun. I think that's good for the juices flowing and it doesn't piss me off as a player
33:17wise, because I think he's a terrific player. And I don't think he's gotten the opportunity that he deserves here.
33:23That's going to be Josh Downs, Josh Downs. And this is our Costco hot dog section.
33:28We're talking about great values. It's probably the best one in this list.
33:32And this will be a power hour because there's a boatload of wide receivers that are going way later in ESPN than they're in the ECR ranks.
33:40Uh, as you can see here, he's ADP on ESPN of 127 and expert consensus ranking of 97.
33:46So he made the top 100 shout out top 100 list, maximum top 100.
33:50You know, I maybe used to go in the bathroom with that back in the day and lock the door.
33:56Uh, not so much these days with the invention of the smartphone.
34:00He's going 30 spots behind expert consensus rankings. He's going in the one twenties.
34:04He's going behind Travis Hunter, who we mentioned earlier.
34:07He's going behind several kickers and Xavier worthy, uh, who I will refrain from making any jokes on this segment as to avoid any more potential lawsuits.
34:15And the pros for him are great, right? He's an excellent short to intermediate receiver.
34:20He's even got some really nice down the field skills.
34:23Uh, he could be a full-time player this year with Pittman gone and the competition is, uh, Westbrook Akina.
34:28So the path is there. The concern is that he's not very big.
34:32He's not doing a lot of air yard work and Alec Pierce just got the bag.
34:37And Tyler Warren is one of the best tight ends in the league.
34:41So is there, what, what if Alec Pierce is that guy?
34:45We know Tyler Warren's that guy and Josh Downs just isn't that guy, pal.
34:49And he's third banana on this team. Now at ADP shit, he can be third banana and this is still a great pick.
34:56I just wonder about the ROI. Um, but man, I just think that is to go 30 spots and be a top
35:02hundred player is, uh, it's, it's pretty wild to me.
35:06We've got his best comparable as Emmanuel Sanders. If Daniel Jones can get his head out of his ass, um, for two
35:12consecutive seasons, I think we're looking at a really, really nice pick here.
35:16Uh, and that's going to be the theme with a lot of these because this next one is, uh, is, is another cuckoo chew crazy.
35:24Uh, I'm never going to say that again. That's the lamest shit I've ever said in my life.
35:29Christian Watson, ESPN ADP of 84. He's going at 56 overall in the expert consensus rankings, 28 points behind differential.
35:35He's going behind Michael Pittman, Cortland Sutton, DK Metcalf.
35:38Oh man, what are we doing? That that's just what, what is going on?
35:42Does he, this is where I question who is doing the juice over at ESPN.
35:47Cause this juice, there's so much juice to squeeze out of this one that they would have to literally throw a Brazzers logo up on there.
35:55I mean, we, you guys don't even need the stats.
35:58He's an advanced metrics. Darling. He was wide receiver 14 over his final eight games, 16.1, a dot wide receiver, 19 and
36:04points per game coming back from ACL. They shipped off these trash wide receivers like Dobbs and Wicks that were getting targets for no good reason.
36:12Um, all the other players on the offense have question marks, Tucker craft coming back from injury, Jaden Reed.
36:18Can he play full time? Uh, Matthew golden. Is he even good?
36:22So this is a hyper smash pick. And this is going to be a guy that when I'm going in ESPN drafts,
36:28I'm building teams around like there's no doubt about it.
36:31If I can get him in at 84th overall, I'm just crushing running back tight end early.
36:37Even even some big dog wide receivers. I think there's going to be a lot of, uh, a lot of fun to be ahead there.
36:44Now we can get to another guy here who is the talk of the town.
36:49He's the bell of the ball. Um, and he's really just, he's going to be a lightning rod for this season because
36:55I think he's going to either make or break fantasy this year.
36:59And that's going to be Quentin Johnston. And some people are calling him the wide receiver one in LA for the chargers.
37:06Um, those people need to be lobotomized a little bit, but a lot of bottomies aren't always bad.
37:11We also shut around ESPN ADP of one 32 and ECR of one Oh eight.
37:16It's a 25 point differential for Quentin Johnston. And he's going behind, this is what's so funny.
37:21He's going behind the Eagles DST. He's going behind Khalil Shakir.
37:24Who's a nothing burger in fantasy. And he's going behind Xavier worthy, who is, um, sorry, like I said, I won't say anything negative.
37:32I've already hit the quote on that one. Mike McDaniel is going to use the day.
37:36He's going to use the piss out of this guy.
37:40Uh, like imagine if Sammy Watkins could put together a full season.
37:43That's what I'm getting out of this guy. Uh, vertical crusher maximizes yak, Justin Herbert doing things.
37:48And he had a good year last year. He was 22 and points per game in a year that we all thought
37:55was a down year for the chargers in this passing offense.
37:58The tackles are coming back. The center has been upgraded.
38:01How good is lad McConkie? Really? That's going to be a big question.
38:05Um, so I think, you know, this is another guy you can really, if you can count on him outside of 132
38:12overall ADP on ESPN, you're just going to be going, you're going to be collecting these high upside wide receivers like, like
38:19Danos, man, this is, this is going to rock.
38:21And the same thing with this next guy, who is a guy that I'm surprised is going as late as he is everywhere.
38:28Jordan Addison and ESPN ADP of one 26 in expert consensus ranking of one Oh six.
38:33You're looking at another 20 point differential. So almost the full two rounds, he's going behind Patriots DST and Bo Nix.
38:40He's also going behind Xavier worthy, but it's obvious when I did these notes and I was a little drunk when I
38:46did them that I was just not in a good mood with the, uh, second year or third year wide receiver out of Texas.
38:54And there's just too many pros for me to be could not be confused about this ADP.
38:59I mean, Kyler Murray, major upgrade. He's shown he can support multiple pass catchers, Minnesota, incredible passing infrastructure.
39:04Starting role is secure. He's a big touchdown earner, uh, and he's young and he's put up top 24 seasons with much
39:11worse quarterbacks than what we have right now. Uh, I mean, Sam Darnold, I guess is pretty good.
39:16It was good in this offense, so I won't malign Sam Darnold, but this is certainly the best consistent passer.
39:22I think we will have seen in this offense since prime Kirk cousins, obviously he's a little, he's always been boom busty
39:29Jefferson caps his upside, but we're talking about 126 overall.
39:32So you're getting round 10 round 11, uh, for a guy that I think could probably offer some pretty decent flex value,
39:39depending on what you do at your other positions.
39:42Uh, now let's get to a guy who is going to literally the suicide hotline is going to be hopefully not as
39:48busy this year because the guy who's stepping up to the plate, Luther burden, Luther burden is going to be called the
39:55amount of prescriptions that people are going to write or not right for Luther burden is going to be, uh, potentially record-breaking
40:02or potentially, uh, the lowest dip we've had since.
40:04I want to say the 2012, uh, year, you know, Obama music festivals.
40:08Uh, yeah, it's just, there was a lot going on back then.
40:12Uh, he's going behind Roma Doonesa, which is the only platform that he will be going behind Roma Doonesa on.
40:18He's going behind Kyle Pitts. It was a big no, no for me.
40:22And he's going behind Jackson dart, which is crazy, right?
40:25You think he's going 66 overall. He's going behind Kyle Pitts and Jackson dart, um, athleticism, unbelievable.
40:30DJ Morgan. He's not just a slot player. He's going to play cross from Roma Doonesa, which is, I think very good for him.
40:38He's great with the ball in his hands and Ben Johnson loves him.
40:41I mean, 66 overall. I mean, you're talking about going in the sixth round in some of these leagues.
40:47That's for a guy that people are reaching on in the third round because they think a breakout is so eminent.
40:54Um, this is another one where these round six, round seven, round eight, round nine players are so shockingly different from other
41:00platforms that you're going to be able to do whatever you want, regardless of how the board falls, uh, in those first three to four rounds.
41:08And I think that gives you a lot of flexibility more.
41:12So I know that these, these rankings are trash every year on ESPN, but this year in particular, they have as little
41:18of a hold on what they're doing as I've ever seen.
41:22Um, and I don't know whose fault that is, you know, who is, is, uh, is it Mina Kimes?
41:27Is it, uh, Dan Orvlosky? Is it, uh, Greenberg trying to think of who still works at ESPN is Steven egg getting involved.
41:34Um, I don't know. You guys tell me what's going on over there.
41:38I like some of those characters that I just named, but, uh, their influence on the fantasy football rankings is, uh, it's not great, Bob.
41:46All right. Who do we got next here? Um, got another old head, another old head.
41:51Who's being disrespected. Mike fricking Evans. Uh, first ballot hall of famer.
41:54One of the greatest wide receivers of all time.
41:57He's got an ESPN rank of 70 and ECR rank of 52.
42:01You're looking at almost 20 points on 20 spots differential.
42:04He's going behind Marvin Harrison jr. Who is too jacked for me to draft this year.
42:09Sam Laporta coming back from that back injury and George Kittle going back.
42:13Coming back from the Achilles. You're what you guys are going to notice.
42:17And there's going to be a second part to the show is that they juice the tight ends in this, uh, in
42:23on ESPN all like the top 10 tight ends are going significantly higher on ESPN compared to any other platform.
42:29Uh, so they're trying to lean into the meta, whatever these guys, they think these guys are going to be on the
42:36field running around some more when Kyle Shanahan brings in or when he tabs or wide receiver, whether it's in the draft
42:43or in a trade or in a free agency, they always pop Debo.
42:47Um, Iuke Evans, Ricky Pearsall, who I think is a very good player.
42:51Pierre Garcon. Um, the only miss is pretty much Dante Pettis.
42:54I mean, the, he has a very good track record with guys that he knows can ball turns them into ballers.
43:00I think Mike Evans has legitimately top five wide receiver potential this year.
43:04Obviously hamstrings are an issue age cliff, all that things, but this is like the floor raising offense and you're getting him at 70th overall unbelievable bargain.
43:12I mean, who are you not going to pick?
43:15You know, you're gonna have to make some tough decisions in these drafts because there's unbelievable players going much later than they should be like our next guy.
43:24I mean, it's a murderous row of guys that I can't believe are going this late.
43:29Jalen fricking Waddle ESPN ADP of 56 expert consensus ranking of 39.
43:32So they have him going very early in the fourth round 17 point differential.
43:36He's going behind, like I mentioned earlier, Carnell Tate.
43:39He's going behind Trevion Henderson and he's going behind the lad McConkey.
43:43Um, we'll get to lad in a minute. Cause he's another one on here, but I mean, Waddle is just like the
43:49perfect Sean Payton, wide receiver, perfect age, uh, perfect athletic profile to not be pigeonholed into one single role.
43:55He can truly do it all. They invested heavily in him.
43:59I think he's very good for Bo Nix. This is just an unbelievable pairing and you're getting him at 56.
44:05And I just don't think there's enough downside for there to be any risk with this pick.
44:10I mean, Cortland Sutton is obviously still there, but he has a very defined role.
44:14There is some transition going on there with some of the, uh, the play calling and the offensive coordinator, Bo Nix come back from an injury.
44:22I guess there's a few things you could, you could, you know, squint and find some issues with, but man, that's just,
44:29uh, that's too good of an ADP for me to pass up on, but shit, man, it's not as good as this
44:36next one because I had to scroll way up to find this big dog.
44:40Um, and I don't even know. Is he even on here?
44:43T Higgins, T Higgins has an expert consensus ranking of 32nd and he's going 44th on ESPN ADP.
44:49Now that's only a 12 point differential, but this is a guy that is legitimately top 12 upside with Jamar chase top five upside without him.
44:57One of the safest picks on the board always has been when he plays, obviously health is a concern, but man, you
45:03can get a player of this quality on. I think you're getting George Pickens who is going extremely high in all drafts.
45:10George Pickens is going anywhere from mid second to early third.
45:13You can get George Pickens at basically the, um, end of the fourth round in ESPN drafts.
45:18That's how I feel about this. And I'm not going to get into the weeds.
45:23Metrically wise stats wise. We all know what T Higgins is.
45:26We've got a long track record with him. And the fact that you can get him at this discount on ESPN is,
45:33uh, it literally makes me think we're living in a simulation.
45:36Um, and if it's a simulation run by Mickey mouse and these Disney Fs, I don't feel great about that, but man,
45:43that is just that that's pretty, that makes me want to move my leagues to ESPN, which is not something I ever thought that I would say.
45:51All right, we're going to get to our last one here and we're going to rip off some rest and we're going to get on our merry way.
46:00And that's going to be a guy who is another talk of the town guy here.
46:05Um, that's going to be AJ Brown, AJ Brown.
46:07He's got an expert consensus ranking of 14, but ESPN has him at 26.
46:12So they have him in the third round. And that's live ADP.
46:15This isn't pre Philadelphia rankings here. Patriots. They gave him the keys.
46:19They said, you're our guy. He's happy to be there.
46:22Uh, the knee concerns are going to be for 2027 and 2028 this year.
46:26I think he could legitimately be a top three, top five wide receiver, and you can get him in the third round.
46:33You're not going to find much better values than that.
46:36All right, let's get out of here with our power hour.
46:39And I'm not going to have, uh, I can have any, anything on the screen here for you guys.
46:45You're just going to get my big, beautiful face.
46:48Ricky Pearsall expert consensus ranking of 102 ESPN has him at 114.
46:51So you get him a full round later. George Pickens expert consensus ranking of 16 ESPN has him at 27.
46:57So you can get him 11 spots later. Tetra McMillan expert consensus ranking of 28 ESPN ADP of 37.
47:03You can get him nine spots later. Devonta Smith, ECR of 24 ESPN ADP of 32.
47:08You can get him eight spots later. And lastly, Brian Thomas, Jr.
47:12ECR of 83 ESPN ADP of 91. You can get him eight spots later.
47:16And I, I mentioned all four of those guys because I think they're guys you can build your draft strategy around because
47:23I think they're going to be highly quality additive players.
47:26And I think it allows you to maybe add another risky piece before or after you draft them on this platform.
47:32So that'll do it for today, folks. We'll be back with a part two quarterbacks and, uh, tight ends.
47:38Those are going to be insane. I assure you appreciate your support as always.
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