NFFC High Stakes Best Ball Draft with Jonny Tooma!
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2 hr 5 min
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Aug 17, 2026
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Mon, August 17, 2026
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Bucky IrvingColston LovelandJustin HerbertRashee RiceTravis KelceA.J. BrownAaron RodgersAdonai MitchellAlec PierceAmon-Ra St. BrownBreece HallBrian Thomas Jr.Brock BowersCaleb Williams
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Player insights
A.J. Brown
PositiveProjection9:06
Jonny Tooma selected A.J. Brown in the second round, noting that his move to a new team provides a better environment for targets and downfield work. Tooma expects a big year for Brown, noting that the team will scheme him the ball to keep him happy.
Insight pageAaron Rodgers
PositiveProjection56:56
Jonny Tooma views Aaron Rodgers as a viable late-round quarterback option, noting that he is in a better offensive scheme under Mike McCarthy with improved weapons.
Insight pageAdonai Mitchell
PositiveBreakout71:16
Jonny Tooma likes Adonai Mitchell, citing positive camp reports and his potential to offer boom games in the Colts' offense.
Insight pageAlec Pierce
PositiveValue48:15
Jonny Tooma identifies Alec Pierce as a "falling knife" value pick in the 11th round, noting that despite ankle injury concerns, his ability to work deep areas of the field makes him a high-upside target.
Insight pageAmon-Ra St. Brown
NegativeValue5:03
Amon-Ra St. Brown was selected with the fifth overall pick in the draft.
Insight pageBreece Hall
NegativeBust20:30
Jonny Tooma expressed hesitation about drafting Breece Hall, citing a lack of confidence in the Jets' offense and quarterback play.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
NegativeValue24:36
Jonny Tooma views Brian Thomas Jr. as a value at his current ADP, citing Jeff Bell's analysis that Thomas Jr. is the ideal field-stretcher for the Jaguars' offense. Tooma expects him to be used differently this year to avoid inside crossers and believes he has significant splash-week potential, projecting a finish closer to his 1,200-yard rookie season than his sophomore slump.
Insight pageBrock Bowers
PositiveValue13:31
Jonny Tooma expressed high interest in Brock Bowers, calling him undervalued, though he was drafted by another team shortly after Tooma's second-round pick.
Insight pageBucky Irving
NegativeRole32:28
Jonny Tooma considered Bucky Irving but passed, anticipating a timeshare involving Kenny Gainwell in the passing game.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout44:10
Jonny Tooma is high on Bucky Irving, noting that camp reports indicate the team wants to give him 12-15 carries per game to start the season. Tooma believes Irving has the potential to earn more work and goal-line opportunities.
Insight pageCaleb Williams
PositiveBreakout25:32
Jonny Tooma is high on a Caleb Williams and Colston Loveland stack, believing the Bears' offense is poised to take a significant step forward. Tooma notes that Ben Johnson's commentary about wanting to break records suggests high offensive potential, provided Williams takes the expected next step in his development.
Insight pageChristian McCaffrey
NegativeBust2:27
Jonny Tooma explicitly stated he was not targeting Christian McCaffrey in the first round of this draft.
Insight pageChristian Watson
NegativeValue47:12
Jonny Tooma believes Christian Watson is currently overrated in drafts due to his persistent injury history and lack of a 1,000-yard season in college or the NFL.
Insight pageColston Loveland
PositiveBreakout24:57
Jonny Tooma selected Colston Loveland, calling him a flag plant and potential tight end one. Tooma cites his high target volume (12 targets per game in final four games) and versatility as a receiver, comparing his talent to Brock Bowers.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout52:48
Jonny Tooma identifies Colston Loveland as an anchor tight end with top-three positional upside, arguing that he is a reliable starter for fantasy lineups.
Insight pageDavid Montgomery
PositiveRole30:06
Jonny Tooma views David Montgomery as having a significant role similar to Joe Mixon's past high-scoring seasons, noting he would have been a great pick.
Insight pageDe'Von Achane
PositiveValue8:17
Jonny Tooma and Blake Stalder view Devon Achane as an elite talent and a viable target in the middle of the second round, despite concerns regarding the Dolphins' offensive coaching changes.
Insight pageDemond Claiborne
PositiveSleeper68:01
Jonny Tooma is high on Demond Claiborne, citing his lightning-fast speed and the potential for upside in a backfield where other players like Jones and Mason are consistently dinged up.
Insight pageDrake Maye
PositiveValue9:56
Jonny Tooma is bullish on Drake Maye, noting his rushing upside and value in a six-point passing touchdown format. Tooma views him as a discount at his 64 ADP and plans to target him as a stack option.
Insight pageGarrett Wilson
NegativeBust20:30
Jonny Tooma expressed hesitation about drafting Garrett Wilson, citing a lack of confidence in the Jets' offense and quarterback play.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
PositiveValue14:05
Jonny Tooma views George Kittle as undervalued, citing positive offseason reports regarding his recovery from injury.
Insight pageJahmyr Gibbs
NegativeValue1:44
Jahmyr Gibbs was the first player selected in the NFFC $150 Best Ball Championship draft.
Insight pageJalen Coker
PositiveSleeper51:50
Jonny Tooma expresses a strong preference for Jalen Coker over Travis Kelce in late-round draft scenarios, citing personal conviction in the player's upside.
Insight pageJavonte Williams
PositiveValue23:44
Jonny Tooma and Blake Stalder acknowledge Javonte Williams as a value this year following his production in 2025.
Insight pageJonah Coleman
PositiveSleeper54:33
Jonny Tooma notes that Jonah Coleman has impressed in camp and possesses a veteran-like presence, suggesting he could be a sneaky best-ball play despite Sean Payton's historical reluctance to use rookies.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
PositiveProjection35:14
Jonny Tooma notes that Jonathan Brooks is rising up draft boards due to Chuba Hubbard missing time, suggesting he could potentially reach first-round status.
Insight pageJustin Herbert
PositiveValue29:56
Jonny Tooma identifies Justin Herbert as a 'no-brainer' pick after a quarterback run where players like Stafford and Prescott were taken ahead of him. Tooma views Herbert as a value at his current ADP.
Insight pagePositiveProjection46:06
Jonny Tooma views Justin Herbert as having top-three quarterback upside and expects him to be a reliable starter in 80% of weeks, noting his success in interdivisional games.
Insight pageJuwan Johnson
PositiveValue15:12
Jonny Tooma suggests that Juwan Johnson is a solid, viable option to build a tight end room in best ball formats.
Insight pageLadd McConkey
PositiveProjection18:22
Jonny Tooma selected Ladd McConkey in the third round, citing the high-scoring potential of the offense and his role as a key target earner.
Insight pageParker Washington
NegativeRole27:02
Jonny Tooma notes that while Parker Washington has a very high floor, he lacks the ceiling that Brian Thomas Jr. offers in best ball formats. Tooma prefers Thomas Jr. at their respective costs.
Insight pagePat Freiermuth
PositiveValue73:34
Jonny Tooma targets Pat Freiermuth as a screaming value, expecting a resurgence in an improved Steelers offense and noting he is a starting tight end available late in drafts.
Insight pageQuentin Johnston
NegativeUsage30:29
Jonny Tooma maintains a fade on Quinton Johnston, noting that while he will have boom weeks if Herbert has time, he is not a 'must-have' player. Tooma highlights that Johnston's college profile as a YAC/catch-and-run player has persisted, and he is not the contested-catch monster his size might suggest.
Insight pageQuinshon Judkins
PositiveProjection32:28
Jonny Tooma selected Quinshon Judkins in the fifth round, citing the coaching staff's praise for his versatility and potential for an improved offense. Tooma projects him as a goal-line back with 8-10 touchdown upside.
Insight pageRashee Rice
NegativeBust66:56
Jonny Tooma expresses skepticism regarding Rashee Rice, noting that he does not look like a player who should be on the field based on training camp observations.
Insight pageNegativeRole66:59
Jonny Tooma expresses skepticism about Rashee Rice, noting that he does not look like a player who should be on the field right now and lacks the profile of a burner, despite his ability to find the zone.
Insight pageRay Davis
PositiveValue70:21
Jonny Tooma views Ray Davis as one of the better handcuff running backs, noting that he has consistently produced 20-plus fantasy points in games where James Cook has been absent.
Insight pageRico Dowdle
PositiveValue39:40
Jonny Tooma selects Rico Dowdle as a third running back, viewing him as a solid value in the middle rounds to round out the roster.
Insight pageRJ Harvey
PositiveSleeper34:20
Jonny Tooma is adamant about drafting RJ Harvey, comparing his role to Alvin Kamara's in a Sean Payton offense. Despite acknowledging Harvey is not a strong between-the-tackles runner, Tooma values his pass-catching ability and potential for 13 touchdowns, especially in full PPR formats.
Insight pageSam Darnold
PositiveProjection45:25
Jonny Tooma acknowledges that while Sam Darnold is "gross" to draft, he offers boom potential in six-point passing touchdown leagues, particularly in high-scoring division games against the Rams.
Insight pageTerrance Ferguson
PositiveSleeper69:01
Jonny Tooma identifies Terrence Ferguson as a sleeper pick, noting his physical and athletic talent, though acknowledging the crowded tight end room in Dallas.
Insight pageTravis Etienne
NegativeValue32:07
Jonny Tooma and Blake Stalder agree that Travis Etienne's ADP has been too high, noting that sharp drafters have allowed him to slip.
Insight pageTravis Kelce
PositiveValue14:01
Jonny Tooma considers Travis Kelce to be an undervalued tight end in the current draft market.
Insight pagePositiveProjection67:24
Jonny Tooma was high on Travis Kelce as a primary pass-catcher in the Chiefs' offense, anticipating full-season value if Patrick Mahomes remains healthy.
Insight pageTre Harris
PositiveBreakout61:18
Jonny Tooma highlights Trey Harris as a high-upside receiver, citing his elite college yards-per-route-run metrics and positive offseason reports as reasons he could outplay Quinton Johnston.
Insight pageTrey McBride
NegativeProjection28:36
Jonny Tooma acknowledges that Trey McBride is due for regression but disagrees with Matt Kelley's take that Brenton Strange will outscore him. Tooma remains higher on McBride than the consensus of his co-host's circle.
Insight pageTyler Warren
NegativeBust35:45
Jonny Tooma is not a fan of Tyler Warren, citing concerns about his route running, separation, and hands compared to Colston Loveland.
Insight pageFull transcript
Episode Transcript
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0:43What's up, everybody? Blake here. It's happy to be here and to give you guys some cutting info on how to run your best ball leagues.
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1:01All right. We're going to get into this draft board.
1:04First pick just went off the board, Jameer Gibbs.
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1:33We've got three wide receivers, full PPR, six-point passing touchdowns, third-round reversal.
1:37We're drafting from the sixth spot, and I am on the clock already.
1:42We're flying. I'm going to go with JSN here because we care about that third-round reversal.
1:47We're not touching Christian McCaffrey, Mr. Electrical Substation himself.
1:50And I actually think this is great. We've got a guy like him falling to us a bit, JSN here.
1:56So we're going to take him off the board, and there we go.
2:01That's pretty simple for me. This is a best ball format, which means the best players who score every week are going
2:08to be the ones that hit your lineup. A guy like JSN proved he is a field stretcher.
2:14There's a little bit of concern with Clint Kubiak going off to Vegas, but I still think they're going to use him wisely.
2:22Mike McDonald proves to be a good leader of men and coaching staff, and I think he's going to make sure that
2:29they utilize JSN's talents as one of the top receivers in the league.
2:33You know, Blake. Me and you are buddies. Like I said, who's the OG truther of JSN?
2:39Well, I think a lot of people were high on JSN, but you were definitely very loud about it.
2:45He was your everything, I believe, right? That was my nickname for him on Sleeper when I drafted him in all the leagues we were in.
2:54My first two years, it looked like, what do you mean?
2:57This guy's your everything? Year three, yes. Year three breakout, dude.
3:01Yeah, I was going to say the guy going before us took Amon-Ra St.
3:06Brown at the five, which makes it pretty easy for us.
3:09Yeah. Not a bad pick, though. That's not a bad pick either.
3:13Well, I honestly, there's something to be said for, like you said, Kubiak leaving.
3:18JSN's efficiency numbers were absurd last year with the amount of damage he did on the amount of targets and everything and touches.
3:25So there's questions about whether or not he's going to be as efficient this year.
3:30But you just got to, in a three wide receiver, best ball draft like this one, you got to smash your wide receiver there.
3:38He's still an elite talent. The thing about JSN is that he just works on, he works up in the middle, he
3:46works on the outside, and he works in the red zone.
3:49And he's doing all three of those things for your offense.
3:53Got to take him there in the first round.
3:56Yep. Yep. And I'm going to just kind of give you guys a peek into my strategy here.
4:02We're going to probably go running back on this next round, just based on how the board usually falls.
4:08There's probably going to be one of these stud running backs that we can kind of anchor to and build a hero RB build around.
4:16If not, I'll swallow my medicine. I'll probably go with another wide receiver.
4:21But my approach is going to be to lean heavy on wide receiver, get those premium wide receivers in the early rounds.
4:28And since we've got 30 rounds, I'm going to start layering in those RB2s, even RB3s in uncertain situations.
4:34And I'm going to hammer running back in the later rounds of the draft.
4:39I just feel like that's a better approach where those guys have more upside than some of those wide receiver fours on
4:46their own team, which you're going to get in those pick 200s.
4:50So we're coming back on the board. We've seen some guys fly off, but we still got Amarion Hampton on the board.
4:57We still got Devon Achan. I'm willing to take Devon Achan.
5:01Yes, me too, actually. At the middle of the second, absolutely.
5:05I think at the turn this year, Achan, obviously there's a lot of talk about how bad the Dolphins look on paper.
5:12That offense, a lot of moving parts this year coming in and out with the coaching and everything.
5:18But Achan's still in the lead talent. Somebody has to get touches there.
5:22Even if they put up 200, 220 yards a game through the air and then see how they are able to run the ball.
5:30Yeah. Well, I was starting to say total yards, but then I was like, that would be pretty miserable, 200 total yards a game.
5:38But I mean, it's possible. We could get sniped here, and we did.
5:42So now we've got our choices are between Drake London and A.J.
5:46Brown. And you start looking at George Pickens, Jeremiah Love, Brock Bowers.
5:50I think it's too early for Love, unfortunately. I think I'm going to go with A.J.
5:56Brown here. And part of the reason is because I am bullish on Drake May.
6:00I would like to potentially stack later if that's a possibility, if he falls to me.
6:06This is a six-point passing touchdown, like I said.
6:09So those quarterbacks get a little bit – the ones that throw the ball well get a little bit of an extra bump.
6:16Now, Drake won both, but I think he has really – he ascended a lot last year, right?
6:22So you got any qualms with me taking A.J.
6:25Brown over Drake London here? No, I'm a huge fan of A.J.
6:29this year. Getting out of Philly should be a much better environment for him to see more targets, see more work down the field.
6:37And it opens up the key later for the stack if we want to go May in like probably seventh round if he falls.
6:45I think with the three wide receivers, we're not really looking to take May like too, too early.
6:51Especially in the – yeah, how – actually, let me ask you this.
6:55In a six-point passing touchdown league, I'm assuming Burrow's ADP – like guys like Burrow would be going before Lamar Jackson even in this format.
7:04Yeah, let's look at ADPs with quarterbacks. How do you value Drake May in this format?
7:09Because like you said, he does both. He's going to run.
7:13He's going to get you rushing yards. But he is – he's a guy who likes to pass the ball in the
7:20red zone, I feel like, more than say like Josh Allen.
7:23Dude, I think he's such a discount in this format.
7:27Josh Allen's got a 31 ADP. Burrow's got a 58.
7:30Hey, Lamar's got a 62. So you've got Drake May at QB4 at a 64 ADP.
7:35Again, we're going to see if we can sling him maybe in the fifth or sixth round.
7:41We're not going to reach for him per se.
7:44But I think there is – I'm kind of a contrarian in the sense of like I don't think that stacking your
7:51quarterback with your wide receivers is absolutely pertinent where you have to reach for a wide receiver.
7:57In a 30-round draft, you can do some back-end stacks and still get some quarterback and wide receiver stacks.
8:03So I don't feel like it's a necessity to reach for a wide receiver.
8:08I will just say there is a caveat to all this.
8:11I absolutely love Brock Bowers. And it was kind of sad to see him get picked very quickly, immediately after I made that pick.
8:19But I kind of told you before the show started, Blake, with these three wide receivers hitting your lineup, I just think
8:27it tweaks the scales a little bit more where I'm just a little bit more leaning in on getting that elite wide receiver set up.
8:35And, you know, there's so much talent at tight end in the later rounds of the draft.
8:41I've been vocal all year. I think guys like Travis Kelsey are undervalued.
8:45I think George Kittle is a bit undervalued because he's making such a great recovery from the injury based on all the offseason reports we've seen.
8:53So I kind of told you early on, we might go for Brett Bowers if he slips in the third.
9:00We might take Loveland if he falls to us, maybe Warren.
9:04But if not, we're just going to kind of ride it out and we're just going to see what falls to us at tight end.
9:12I think there's I was telling you guys like Juwan Johnson that I'm happy if you get, you know, Juwan Johnson and
9:19a couple other tight ends, you've got a solid tight end room.
9:23So my approach here is also going to be probably like a three, nine, a three quarterback, nine running back, nine wide
9:30receiver, three tight end, maybe three defense, three kickers.
9:33We are drafting. This is kickers and defensive league.
9:36So they're going to start going off the board around round 14.
9:40We don't want to get caught with just one kicker.
9:44Usually that's not the best approach in these formats, but it also isn't the end of the world.
9:50But again, maybe we land on two or three kickers, two or three defenses and hammer those running backs in the later
9:57rounds, like I said, but really build that wide receiver core early with some premium wide receivers.
10:03So that's that's sort of my strategy going into this.
10:06Figured I'd let the guys know what I'm thinking.
10:09So we're in the middle of the third round here.
10:12Now we're going to be up in a few picks.
10:15Now we've got to start looking at who's going to be on the board here.
10:20We've got Jeremiah Love next in ADP, Trey McBride, Emekic Buka and Brees Hall.
10:25I think I know who I'm going with out of those guys if one of them falls to us, but I will leave that to to.
10:34Oh, and there he goes. That was going to be my pick.
10:38So now I get in a little bit of a scary situation because that was kind of I was hoping that Buka could could fall to us.
10:47I it doesn't surprise me that he didn't. But we're going to hang out for a second.
10:52We're going to see what comes up on the board here and we're going to make our pick.
10:58Oh, and I am on the board. Okay. So love Paul.
11:02And who is the other? So love Trey McBride, Brees Hall, Tett McMillan, T Higgins, Garrett Wilson, Ladd McConkie.
11:08I'm going to go Ladd McConkie, man. And this is because I just I think it's everybody knows that this offense is
11:15going to be a high scoring offense this year.
11:18This is a guy who the piece of the pie that we want.
11:23And again, could be some really fun stack with Burrow if we can't land or I meant to say with Herbert, if we can't land Drake May.
11:32Right. So we're opening up the board to give us a few different stack options.
11:36I'm not really keen on drafting Sam Darnold to stack with.
11:40Yeah, that's what I was going to say about.
11:43JSN. Yeah, if we're going to probably end up getting Darnold, I imagine.
11:47Just because I don't know why I haven't seen like exactly where his ADP goes.
11:52But I think if we if we miss on May, we'll want Darnold as a QB too.
11:58Now we can get Herbert. So I like that opening up another pathway there for a stack.
12:04Like I don't invest ball like I think the Jets might be.
12:08I mean, they're not going to be worse than they were last year, but I don't really like taking Jets players in basketball.
12:15Right. Frank Reich running the helm there. You know, Wilson throwing tons of interceptions and camp not looking that great last year.
12:22I think it is. He can't go anywhere but up.
12:26Do you know Smith? Because he does have a solid weapons around him.
12:30But yeah, I just couldn't bring myself to draft Reese Hall or Garrett Wilson and depend on them.
12:36I just want pieces of good offenses. So I think we've done that so far.
12:41Right. We know that the Seahawks lean on JSN.
12:44They have a solid offense. It's run first, but we know he gets such a large target share.
12:50AJ Brown, New England Patriots. That's going to be a really good offense.
12:54He's going to be the guy there too. Sorry, what was that?
12:58AJ's going to be the guy there too. I mean, Dubs is there.
13:02They have Pudi, but they're going to look to get AJ Brown.
13:06I mean, if he's not getting 10, 12 targets a game, they're not running their offense.
13:12Right. I mean, there's something to be said. People have been talking about McDaniels and his, you know, in the past, he's
13:19been one to really want to spread the ball around all of those years with Brady.
13:24But I think when you have a guy like AJ Brown and then the separation between him and Dubs, you're really going
13:32to work to scheme AJ Brown the ball, especially you just got him in a trade and you want to make sure you keep him happy.
13:40I think he's going to be a big year for Brown.
13:44Dude, he's, you know, he's the kind of guy who's just going to scream and moan if he does not get the ball enough.
13:52So I, you know what? I'm not keen on telling you guys who I'm going to draft before, because now I feel like you guys are the board.
14:01Maybe some of these guys are in this live stream and they're just intent on sniping me.
14:07So we're going to wait for till we're on the board to talk.
14:11But there's some guys that I think are a good value in this range, specifically at running back.
14:17And one of them, I can't wait. If he falls to us, I'm going to be happy to take him.
14:24And I think, oh, there he was. Javante Williams goes.
14:27And it's funny because you and I, we're both Denver Broncos fans.
14:31You know, I have been so out on him for so many years, but he's, he's a value this year, right?
14:38After he came back and he produced the way he did in 2025, I think that would have been a great start for the draft.
14:46So we're back on the board. I know who I'm going for.
14:50We've got NADP, Josh Jacobs, Travis CTN, Luther Burden, Terry McLaurin.
14:54But then I'm going to go for my guy.
14:57This is just a flag plant for me. I think he could potentially be the tight end one this year, unless, you know, probably Bowers.
15:05But give me some Colston Loveland, man. Absolutely love him.
15:08Again, great offense. Burden's dinged up. He's going to be missing some valuable training camp snaps.
15:13And if you look at, I think, including the playoffs, he was averaging 12 targets a game over his last four games of the season.
15:22Loveland was like the heart and soul of that offense.
15:25And I think that's what we'll continue to see going into 2026.
15:29Again, guys that I was just incredibly high on coming out of college.
15:33Jackson Smith and Jigbo was probably one of my biggest flag plants.
15:37And then second, and maybe even above him, was Colston Loveland.
15:41I was telling everybody, this is the tight end one of the draft when people were saying it was going to be Tyler Warren.
15:49So really validating to see him have such a good late breakout and just such an awesome receiver.
15:55I think he actually, there's a lot that he does that reminds me of Colston or of Brock Bauer.
16:01So a little bit of a sore spot here where we don't have a running back yet.
16:07But again, I'm not, I'm not stressing that too much because I do think there are still some solid values on the board in terms of running back.
16:16I think some guys who are going to fall in the next couple of rounds are good values.
16:22And we'll talk about those unless somehow I get sniped on all of them.
16:27But I think what we also did by drafting three wide receivers is we start dictating the board a little bit where
16:34people feel like they might need to play catch up on wide receiver a little bit.
16:39So that's sort of my approach here. We've got that tight end that I love.
16:44And I think that's another thing I really wanted to do.
16:48And I think I would recommend everybody does in these high stakes draft is like, don't always just go off ADP and the next guy up on ADP.
16:57Go for your guys, go for the guys you have the highest amount of conviction in.
17:02And I have a lot of conviction in Colston Loveland.
17:06Yeah, Loveland. Yeah, I do think you said makes sense to me.
17:10I'm really high on the talent, really high on the offense.
17:13I think even if the receivers struggle to solidify themselves in their roles, it's like either Rome's going to be the alpha
17:20or Burden's going to be the alpha. I think Loveland's going to eat pretty much no matter what.
17:26He's going to see targets in the middle of the field.
17:30He's going to see those like, you know, design bootleg passes.
17:34And and he's just he's basically a wide receiver himself.
17:37So I think he's got upside to play in the fourth there.
17:41And there goes Josh Jacobs. I was going to say, are we just like we're totally fading him?
17:47No, no, I'm not totally fading him. I do think dinged up groin.
17:51There's some off the field issues that are still somewhat unresolved.
17:55I do think he slipped a little bit further than I expected.
17:59Montgomery before Jacob seems a bit strange to me.
18:02Just Montgomery before Jacob seems strange. I maybe would take scat before him, but.
18:06I do like. I do like David Montgomery situation a lot.
18:10This is another guy who I've historically not liked because I am a Gibbs owner right in many fantasy leagues.
18:17And it's just like he's always been a thorn in the side.
18:21Every time he comes out on the field, you're like, get this guy off the field.
18:26He's not as good as Gibbs, but now he's going to be the guy there.
18:31I really do see it being almost like a Joe Mixon role when he was on the Texans a few years ago
18:38and was averaging like 20 points a game. Now I failed to stay healthy, but I do think Montgomery would have been
18:45a great pick if we could have landed him.
18:48Doesn't look like that's going to be the case, but we're going to go for.
18:53We're just going to keep pushing anyways. Again, I feel like there's still some really good values on the board coming up.
19:01Me too, actually. Yeah, Swift goes. There's still maybe two or three guys that I would actually.
19:06Yeah, I think we're going to be okay running back.
19:10Even I would have liked the HN Jr. there.
19:13The HN Jr. You know what? He slipped a bit and I agree with it.
19:18He was a 42 ADP and he slipped a bit there.
19:21And I think that's right. I think this is a lot of sharp drafters in this room.
19:27You're spending 150 bucks on an entry. You're going to be sharper than the field usually.
19:32I think everybody agrees Travis HN's ADP has been high.
19:35What did I tell you? I told you we would see Parker Washington go early, dude.
19:41People are sticking to their guns. Now, this is where I'm going to make a bit of an interesting move here.
19:48I'm between Quinshawn Judkins and Bucky Irving on the clock here.
19:51I might lean Judkins. Typically, I get scared off by the injury.
19:55It's not a great offense, but I do believe Todd Munkin is going to make some changes.
20:01It's going to be an improved offense. And again, he has just been so outward about his praise for Judkins, his ability to do it all.
20:09Travion Henderson is also on the board, but I struggle with him at cost.
20:14I think I'd rather have the other running back there.
20:17So I'm going to go with Quinshawn Judkins. Bucky Irving was another choice we could make, but I do see that being a bit more of a timeshare.
20:27I think you're going to see some involvement with Kenny Gainwell in the passing game.
20:32And Sean Tucker is actually a guy that I'm looking at later in this draft as well.
20:37So we got our first running back. We're moving along.
20:41I think Judkins is the touchdown play, right? Goal line guy.
20:44Hopefully, the Browns can move the ball a little bit and they fall down inside the five a bunch.
20:50And he finishes with eight to ten touchdowns. The perfect lunch combo.
20:54That first bite of your favorite sub followed by ice cold Pepsi.
20:58Add a couple of friends and now that's next level.
21:02Suddenly, the laughs get louder, the stories keep flowing, and the food tastes better.
21:06Because Pepsi brings out more flavor, more fun, and more of the moment.
21:11Food deserves Pepsi. Grab a Pepsi Zero Sugar today.
21:14Dude. Jonathan Brooks, the next pick after Quinn Chimes, Judkins in round five.
21:18That's great. Chuba is going to miss some time now.
21:21So I feel like Brooks is going to continue to shoot up boards.
21:26But that's definitely the earliest I've seen him go.
21:28Is he going to be a first round pick by the time this draft?
21:33The last thing really coming around. I'm like, this is crazy.
21:37Any chance we see Warren go after Loveland by end of August?
21:41I think you mean like right after. I could see fourth round Warren.
21:45I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I personally just am not a big fan of Warren.
21:51I don't think he's the type of route runner or separator or even kind of hands catcher.
21:57He's just not the receiver that Colston Loveland is.
22:00That's just my opinion. I get it that you've got Alec Pierce battling injury, Josh Downs.
22:05It's kind of like a depleted receiving corpse. But I'm not super high on the talent of Warren.
22:11That's just me. Again, that's a guy who I've been outward about that as well.
22:16So no disrespect to Corey in the house. Thanks for your comments.
22:20And guys, please ask questions. Light up the chat.
22:23We're going to be getting to as many of the questions you have around anything.
22:28Best ball, redraft, dynasty. So this is actually total points.
22:31I think that's really important to call out. In best ball, a lot of times we're stacking for those playoff weeks, 15, 16, 17.
22:39I was talking with Blake, just making sure he knew before the show, we do not need to really be all in
22:46on who the Week 17 matchup is to win this.
22:50We need to score the most points throughout the year.
22:53So a little bit less of a correlation on those playoff weeks that maybe you are considering if you're playing on a format like Draft Kings or Underdog.
23:02So I will give a quick shout out to Fast Draft.
23:06Fast Draft is another awesome best ball tournament that is total points.
23:10And so I've been playing a lot of Fast Draft this year.
23:14And it's been a lot of fun having a different flavor from Underdog and Draft Kings where you're not all in on
23:21those Week 15, 16, and 17 matchups. I actually think it's a bit funny when I look on X of people like
23:28their whole brain gets fixed around who the team's playoff schedules are.
23:32Like, for instance, the Dolphins have a really weak secondary is what we're hearing.
23:37So I think they play like the Packers, the Bills, and one other team that's escaping me off the top of my head in the playoffs.
23:45So if you're doing that and the playoffs are important to you, then those are the types of teams maybe you're looking at who are playing weak secondaries.
23:55But Jadarian Price going off the board after Tyler Warren.
23:58We got Joe Burrow. So on the board in front of me at ADP, we've got Carnell Tate, Lamar Jackson, Marvin Harrison, Drake May, and Brian Thomas Jr.
24:07There goes Drake May. So our stack is thrown out the window.
24:11Cool with it. Not the end of the world.
24:14Not going to reach. And we are up. We're on the board.
24:18And actually, I'm really excited about this. I think a guy kind of fell to me that I think is enticing in this format.
24:26Again, three wide receivers. You want to take those shots on good players.
24:30And I'm going to go on a bit of a tangent here.
24:34Drafting Brian Thomas Jr., I like in PPR, non-best ball formats, almost most formats, I obviously would prefer Parker Washington.
24:41But I heard, shout out to Jeff Bell from Football Guys.
24:45He's one of the top wide receiver rankers. And at cost, he was very adamant.
24:50I'd rather have Brian Thomas Jr. And his point was, when you look at what the most ideal version of their offense could be, it's Brian Thomas Jr.
24:59being a field stretcher, playing that true X and getting the ball and winning downfield.
25:04Again, I think he's got the potential for some splash weeks.
25:07It seems like they learned their lesson that he's not going to be that guy to run inside crossers over the middle of the field.
25:16I think they use him a bit differently this year.
25:19And I think he's a value there. So I'm happy we got him.
25:23And again, I'm not mad that we missed on Drake May because the beauty is we've still got potential stacks in our back pocket, right?
25:32With Ladd McConkie and Herber and Caleb Williams and with Colston Loveland.
25:36I actually think that's one of the stacks that I'm most high on is Caleb Williams and Colston Loveland because I really
25:43just see that offense taking another step. There was some commentary from Ben Johnson about we want to be record-breaking offense this year.
25:50We want to break records. And I think they have the firepower to do it.
25:55Caleb Williams just has to take that next step.
25:58But he had a really good year last year, all things considered.
26:02Streaming a 30-round draft is rough. Good luck, fellas.
26:05I kind of agree with you, but these guys are moving.
26:09I think I'm taking the longest to make my picks because I'm talking through each one of them with you guys.
26:16But we're moving. We're making good progress, aren't we, Blake?
26:19Yeah, we're doing good. Godwin going pretty early, dude.
26:22Godwin going pretty damn early. That's early for Godwin.
26:25Just real quick, Brian Thomas, a full round later than Parker Washington.
26:29That's good value. Yeah, I'm taking it. And I think I even sent you kind of my targets before the show.
26:36We lost Caleb Williams there. That's okay. I told you before the show, I'm like, hey, Parker Washington or BTJ, right?
26:43I want a slice of that offense. That's going to be a good offense.
26:48But I told you, I think I'd prefer BTJ at cost.
26:51Especially, again, best ball. If you get seven or eight or nine really good wide receivers, you're really going for those guys
26:59who are going to have those splash weeks, those long touchdowns.
27:02I think that Parker Washington has a very high floor.
27:05It doesn't have quite the ceiling that Brian Thomas Jr.
27:09could offer if he gets back to what he was doing in his rookie year.
27:14I love people talking about, oh, it wasn't him with Trevor Lawrence when he had all his success.
27:20It was Mac Jones. I totally agree with that.
27:23They got to make it work, man. You don't just draft a guy in the first round and then just throw him
27:30away because you've had one down season with him, right?
27:33Especially not after a 1,200-yard rookie season. Yeah, yeah.
27:36Yeah, and all the reports from camp is that they're building chemistry every day.
27:41It's like this is year three in this offense for Thomas.
27:45So with Trevor, I mean, different play color than his first year.
27:48But yeah, I think this is the year where he either makes or breaks it.
27:53And I would bet money that he finishes closer to his rookie season than he does to his sophomore season.
28:00Yeah, and I don't know about you, man. It's kind of hard to really pick a spot that you like.
28:07But I never hate drafting from the sixth spot just because you're never waiting 20 picks to make a draft and having
28:14to stare a mile down the board at who you might potentially draft next, right?
28:19So we're going to be up on the board in a few picks here.
28:24Johnny, let me ask you, what do you think about Team 1 going sort of bully tight end here with the 2-2-2?
28:31I don't know, man. Again, I'm not a big Warren guy, and I do like Trey McBride.
28:36I've been battling our CEO, Matt Kelly, player profiler, the podfather, the legend.
28:41He just thinks that, I don't know. He thinks Brenton Strange is going to outscore Trey McBride this year.
28:47He's so low on him. I'm not there, but I think those guys, like McBride is due to regress, certainly.
28:54And Warren, I'm just not sold on. So I think it's, I'm just not in love with it if I'm being dead honest with you.
29:02And I think that's interesting that that guy just took Trevor Lawrence there.
29:06There's no stack in play. Yeah, he just goes naked Lawrence.
29:10That's crazy. And then this guy goes Daniels and Hurts.
29:13I think that's also interesting. Yeah, I don't mind the double tap.
29:17I don't mind it. But again, I just think these guys are going to end up having to fish in the barrel
29:24at wide receiver a little bit later in the draft.
29:28Yeah, I mean, that guy only has two receivers, team nine.
29:31So yeah, it's interesting to double tap in that situation in a three wide receiver.
29:36Do we still have stacks, right? Or do we not?
29:40Do we lose them all? Yes, we have a stack.
29:43Don't ruin this for me, Blake. Let this guy make his pick.
29:47Sorry, I got excited. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
29:50Okay, dude, this is beautiful. Honestly, I think this is like, I'm getting more excited by the second.
29:56We just watched a huge QB run of people reaching over Justin Herbert, left and right.
30:01All these guys, Stafford, Prescott, their ADPs are after Herbert.
30:05So we're going to take Herbert here because we've got Sutton in front of him at ADP, Tyson, who just got an
30:12injury, Quinton Johnson, woof, Alec Pierce, woof, Tony Pollard, woof, Chuba Hubbard, woof.
30:16And then you've got Justin Herbert. So a bit of a no brainer for me here.
30:22We're going to take the guy. We're going to draft him.
30:25I will say maybe QJ, just to round out the stack.
30:29You're going to get some boom weeks from QJ.
30:32For sure. But he's the type of guy, I'll take it a discount.
30:36Yeah, exactly. I could so see him just coming all the way back around.
30:41For sure. But when I set my rankings, Blake, I'm not going to lie to you.
30:46His ADPs are in the 70s, and I just put him at 100.
30:50This is where I have him. Seems like a good place for him, just right there at 100.
30:56Yeah, and honestly, when I sent you my list of guys I'm targeting, I'm targeting Trey Harris, right?
31:02I really like Trey Harris. I think he's a player I was more excited about coming out than Quinton Johnston.
31:09I think you know this because we talk so much ball together.
31:13I've kind of always been outward about my fade of Quinton Johnston.
31:17Yeah, we faded him coming out of college. I think we were both in agreement.
31:22The sort of T-Rex arms struggles catch. He should be a contested catch monster, right, with that size.
31:28But his profile was more of a catch and run guy, a rack kind of guy.
31:33And that's where he made his living in college.
31:36And we saw it for a big part of the early part of his career.
31:41He just went off the board. I don't really hate the price, though, just for the record.
31:47But yeah, we saw drops in his career. I think we were sort of proven right early on.
31:53And now, you know, now I think we sort of know what kind of player he is with a good offensive line.
32:00If Herbert has time, like he's going to have boom weeks.
32:03But I don't think he's a I don't think he's a must have even in best ball.
32:09Yeah. And again, I think it's just you got to look at the players that are going around him.
32:15There's some there's some solid guys that I had on my list of targets that I think are going to come back around to us.
32:24Um, and this is but I said going through it.
32:27I'm really liking the team so far because you can't look at any of those players besides Judkins and say that they're
32:34not on a really solid offense that are going to score a lot of points.
32:39So, um, nice. And we've we've touched all our bases, right?
32:43We've got a quarterback. We've got a running back.
32:46We've got a tight end. We've got four solid wide receivers.
32:49So I don't hate how this is stacking out for us.
32:53I will say these drafts against these types of, uh, you know, high stakes drafters.
32:58They are always tough because, you know, you love Parker Washington, but then he goes in round four, right?
33:04Like it's just you're just they're gonna they're gonna pick their guys.
33:08They're gonna listen to the the beat reporters and have their ears to the ground.
33:13And so, um, it's just interesting. You see, you know, a lot of the times you have these my guys that you
33:21target and they just end up going. Kenneth Gainwell.
33:24That is interesting, man. Some of these picks are so interesting too.
33:27So. Well, that's interesting. Like, I don't know about that.
33:31I don't know if I love that approach. Well, yeah, I feel like you want to diversify there.
33:37But I also think they both could be there's talk that they're both on the field in some sets.
33:43You know, they're always saying that about offenses in camp trying to get both running backs out there at the same time.
33:50Um, but yeah, I mean, I like Kenny G.
33:53I think he's gonna catch, you know, a fair amount of passes this year.
33:58But I think 100% golf. I don't want to call it early.
34:02Yeah, because I actually had him on my targets list again when six point passing touchdown.
34:07Yeah, discount the rushing ability. It doesn't mean as much.
34:10Um, so he was a guy that I really liked as well.
34:14And now we are back on the board. One of my guys came back around.
34:19This is a guy who I am adamant about.
34:22And everybody says he's one of the worst clicks on the board.
34:26RJ Harvey, baby. Um, not a great between the tackles runner.
34:30Not going to argue with anybody on that. But he's like basically playing the Alvin Kamara role in a Sean Payton offense.
34:37And I'm getting him in like, you know, pick 90 or whatever rat now.
34:42I'm taking it every time. So happy with that.
34:45We've got our two running backs. Um, and I think he's a guy who could, it's full, full point PPR.
34:51So you want to target those pass catching running backs.
34:55Would have loved to get Mike, Michael Wilson really like Michael Wilson.
34:59Yeah. Um, but again, I, I did want to go with who I think is just kind of a guy that I
35:06want to plant my flag on a little more with RJ Harvey.
35:10Yeah. And we need a running back there. Johnny, what, uh, what other running backs are, uh, we on the board, we still have Hubbard.
35:18He's falling, but now you start. And that's the thing.
35:22There was a bit of a cliff after Harvey to me.
35:25You can, then you start getting into Blake Corum, Rico Dowdle.
35:29I like Kyle Monunga. Dobbins. Rashad White. Rashad White's going to be a bit further down the board.
35:35He's at 97. I think that's a, I think that's a bit high for me.
35:40I actually, I think I told you on my, my list of targets, I'm going with your Corey cross game.
35:46I'm getting white more and more. I have too much exposure to him already.
35:51Uh, and the talk from camp is that it sounds like JCM is they're trying to get him to be the guy there.
35:59Um, but I would have maybe challenged Corum over Harvey.
36:02I know the upside of, you know, Dobbins goes down Harvey.
36:06Um, you know, his workload can really only go up unless, uh, you know, unless he gets injured.
36:12But, um, yeah, I just don't see it with Harvey.
36:15I'm not a huge fan. If anything like Coleman later as the handcuff for, uh, Dobbins makes more sense to me, but
36:22I think the upside, there's enough upside there. Dude, I, it's so funny cause we're both Broncos fans.
36:28Like we've seen the film, we've watched the games.
36:31Uh, and I just seem to be the only guy who thinks that, you know, it's the second round running back entering
36:38his second year in the NFL who is kind of playing that pass catching role for, you know, everybody talks about, Oh,
36:46Bo Nix likes to, you know, he's a dump off merchant, which is totally not even true.
36:51Right. He's more of a first read guy, not necessarily like a dump off merchant, my opinion.
36:57No, I, I agree with you, but I guess my point is that's good in an offense where, uh, Sean Payton likes
37:04to design some plays where the first read is the running back, whether it's screen passes or quick swing passes.
37:11He really got a lot of that work. And I think people discount how solid of a year he put together.
37:18He's like RB 20 or something. And I think we're getting them at like RB 20 or 30 at this point.
37:25So I just, I don't see him being much worse than he was the last year.
37:30If not, I see him taking a step forward.
37:33Again, I'm not arguing his ability to rush in between the tackles and some of the reports that he's not, you know, your best early down grinder.
37:42Um, but I do think it's a good offense.
37:45What percentage of snaps do you think he sees week one?
37:48Probably 40, 40. I'm not going to argue with you on that.
37:52I think, but again, it's like, you look at some of those Alvin Kamara seasons where it was like, he was playing
38:0040 or 50% of the snaps, but he's getting six or seven catches a game like, and you know, doing something with them.
38:07I think Harvey, that was one thing he showed me on film a lot was the ability to catch, make people miss,
38:15uh, turn it, crank out extra yards when he wasn't depended on to be a between the tackles rusher.
38:21So, uh, Jordan Tyson fell a good bit, probably rightly.
38:24So he's basically completely off my board at this point, just with the continuous injuries, uh, to the same area.
38:31It's the hamstring. It's been the hamstring for like a year.
38:34Career. Yeah. Pretty much. RJ Harvey, 13 tutties. Easy.
38:37Easy. I don't know about easy, but I love, I love where your head's at.
38:42I love the enthusiasm. We would love that for this team.
38:46That would, that would probably get us in the money for sure.
38:50Um, so Rashad white goes, are we thinking similar, similarly right now?
38:54What are you thinking? Um, well, are you, would you like to take another running back here?
39:00Do you want to take a swing? Um, upside receiver.
39:03Where, where's your head at? I'm looking at who I told you were my early targets.
39:08There's a couple of guys that I think are interesting here.
39:12Um, let me see if I might have to, yeah, this guy's down the board, but I think he's going to get reached on.
39:20So we'll wait till we're on the clock just to minimize any sniping.
39:24Um, but we're going to be up with this next pick.
39:28It's coming before you know it. So on the board, we have Alec Pierce, Chuba Hubbard, still falling.
39:34Rico Dowdle, Kyle Monungai, Jacoby Myers, JK Dobbins. Those are the next couple in order for us on the board here.
39:41Do you hate Dowdle? Is that too gross for you?
39:44I'm, I don't want to give anything away, brother.
39:47Yeah. I think it's gross, dude. Totally gross. Couldn't be me, bro.
39:51Wait, really? No, I'm just kidding, bro. Come on, Anderson.
39:54Make your pick. All right. Good. Okay. Diggs. That was actually the other guy I said.
39:59That was, I don't want to say I got sniped because I agree with you.
40:04I think I'm going to lean Dowdle here. Yeah.
40:07I like that. But Diggs was a guy. His ADP was 127.
40:11I knew we were going to see him go earlier than that.
40:15I was maybe going to try and push it another round, but not surprised at all.
40:21He goes right here. It's a good spot. I wouldn't argue he's not better than Terry McLaurin.
40:26And that's a hot take, but that's what I...
40:29Interesting. So we've got Alec Pierce, Chuba Hubbard, Rico Dowdle, Kyle Monunga, Jacoby Myers, J.K.
40:34Dobbins. We're going to go Dowdle here. Yeah. Let me just get a third running back.
40:39Yeah. We're looking good, man. We've got some solid running backs and solid wide receivers.
40:44But now it's really important that we start kind of filling out that wide receiver room a little more.
40:51Give me names. He's on the... He's on the...
40:54Wide receiver. We've got Alec Pierce, Jacoby Myers, Addison, Worthy, Total Fade, Jaden Higgins.
40:58Yes. So Higgins to me... But I don't know if he'll fall.
41:02I don't know. I guess the offense might not be as prolific as you want, but I do think Higgins is going to have a...
41:10Have a decent chance to return value here in the, what, 10th round if we get him?
41:16Yeah, I know, man. It's kind of tough for me, too, because I feel like Jordan Addison's not a terrible pick either.
41:23Right? Is it Jordan Addison? Yeah. But I also just am probably the biggest Kyler hater, so...
41:29Dude, we're starting to see quarterbacks run, which you got to be careful of, right?
41:34You don't want to get totally left out. Because look, really, it is Jordan Love, Malik Willis, Sam Darnold, Cam Ward.
41:41You start getting into the gross zone pretty quickly here.
41:44Sure. I mean, Darnold, I feel like, isn't terrible if that's what we're left with, considering we have JSN.
41:51Yeah, exactly. I don't think it's a spot where you need to reach, right?
41:55Six-point passing as well? Yeah, six-point passing touchdown, yeah.
41:58So, yeah, I wouldn't mind smashing some Sammy D there.
42:01Pause. But, yeah, Sammy D, some of those receivers you were talking about, I think we...
42:07Oh, dang. Our face is not on the board.
42:10Shout-out, Pete Terranova. I can't see your face. Thank you, guys.
42:13Thank you for joining the chat. Coach, Jair. There we go.
42:17I'm back, baby. We're back. We're here. You've been listening to us.
42:21You ain't been seeing us. We're here. Thank you, guys, for joining and ask us any questions in the chat, guys.
42:28Chuba Hubbard finally goes off the board. I think he had to go at a certain point, right?
42:34Yeah, I mean, you got to take him. What was the report?
42:38Two weeks? Two to three weeks? Yeah, I think people are so quick to overreact to the injuries and stuff, but...
42:45Ask Chad if they regret making us put our faces back on.
42:49Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. I know they probably do in your case.
42:52Oh, oh. No, you're beautiful, baby. Dude, Blake and I were at the NFL Combine this year.
42:57Imagine that, dude. Two guys who grew up together as best friends getting to go as media members to the NFL Combine.
43:05We harassed Emmett Johnson a little bit. We asked him about being undersized.
43:09We got clapped at a little bit. But, dude, did we have some fun in Indy or what?
43:15We were cutting it up, dude. Dude, those three days on the field, you know, in the rooms, man.
43:21I wouldn't trade that for the world. That's way better than, like, being at the draft or something like that.
43:28I think just the atmosphere in Indy itself, just in the downtown sections, like at night and stuff.
43:34People were out. People were, you know, celebrating. It really is the best time of the year, in my opinion, is Combine into the draft.
43:42And then, you know, obviously, like, the season's pretty fun, too.
43:46But, yeah, I'm a big sucker for the draft and getting to see those college guys come out and getting a first
43:53look at how they're going to look in NFL situations.
43:56So, yeah, it was a lot of fun, man.
43:59A lot of fun. All right. So, we are going to be – we are up on the board.
44:05Yeah. We've got J.K. Dobbins, Jordan Addison, Ja'Cory Krosky, Merritt.
44:09Do you want to just slam Donald here? No, absolutely not.
44:12I think I'm going to go with Ja'Cory, dude.
44:15Yeah, like – I got to. I just can't trust Dobbins to stay healthy.
44:20We already have Harvey, too. Yeah, exactly. I do like – like I said, I don't hate Addison.
44:26I think, you know, he could offer you some boom weeks, right?
44:30He's been a guy who just – that's kind of his thing.
44:34He can break loose down the field for those big plays.
44:38But we're going to pass on him. We took Ja'Cory Krosky, Merritt.
44:41I think the fade of Ja'Cory Krosky, Merritt is actually kind of hilarious.
44:46Like, seventh-round rookie who rushed for, like, 800 yards, looked good on film, looks like an instinctive runner.
44:52And, again, we're hearing all this positive praise that, yeah, Rashad White could be kind of the PPR scam guy, right?
44:59But, oh, there goes Darnold. There goes Darnold. No, but, dude, all the news from camp is that, you know, they're trying
45:06to – I think they're really going to look to give JCM – trying to get Bill, like, you know, 12, 15
45:13carries a game to start the season. And, you know, if he looks good, maybe he gets more.
45:19If he gets that goal line work, I think we're real happy to get him there in the 10th.
45:25In retrospect, though, I would have – I think we should have gone Darnold, but – Dude, Darnold's just so gross to me, bro.
45:33He's a little gross. And six-point passing, though, it's better.
45:37It's better. And you're going to get those boom weeks when they play the Rams.
45:42He's going to throw for, like, five touchdowns. You know, they play them twice a year.
45:47I mean, I know the Rams defense is, you know, supposed to be this juggernaut, but those primetime games and division games always end up being high scoring.
45:56So I feel like there's enough spots throughout the year where Darnold's going to maybe even outperform Herbert.
46:02But, yeah, I can't lie. It does seem a little gross.
46:06Yeah, and I think kind of where I'm at is when you draft a guy like Herbert and you think he's got
46:13top three upside at quarterback, like I just don't think you need to reach too much.
46:18Like, I think he ends up being the quarterback that hits your lineup 80% of weeks.
46:24You know, the Chiefs defense is kind of down, right?
46:27He's going to play them twice. He's going to play the Raiders defense twice.
46:32He's going to play the Broncos twice as well, right?
46:35That's a tough defense. But I was also like – He usually tortures us there, doesn't he?
46:41Exactly. Like, those interdivisional games he usually does pretty well.
46:44And that's another thing I think about is like that's a third-year lineup – or that's a third-year schedule, right?
46:50And so I always do think about that. To your point, kind of the same thing to say about Sam Darnold, right?
46:58You know he's going to have some shootout games with the Rams and the 49ers.
47:03So I just wasn't willing to reach on him, dude.
47:06It seems like these guys are really taking – like that guy's already got three quarterbacks, right?
47:12Yeah. I didn't expect him to go there. I'll say that.
47:15Yeah. Are you high on – What's your take with the Packers?
47:19Meh. You know, I don't know. I think they're a little bit overrated.
47:24And that's just from some buddies that I talk closely to, just talking about how competitive their schedule is.
47:30Sorry, what are you saying? People are high on Christian Watson.
47:33I think a little too high just with the injury history and everything.
47:38And that – Yeah, we'll see. It's hard for me to pick one wide receiver in that room, right?
47:44Like Reed is good but can't stay healthy. Watson is good but, you know, he's good per route efficiency.
47:50But again, struggled to stay healthy and struggled to even put together – I don't think he's ever had a thousand-yard season in the college or NFL.
47:59Really? Right. And then Matthew Golden is kind of a joke.
48:03Yeah, I don't – I just – Golden might get enough volume though is the thing.
48:08Yeah, yeah. But I don't think he's very good.
48:11So Debo goes off the board. We got Malik Willis off the board.
48:15Dude, Alec Pierce is an absolute free fall right now.
48:19Dude, well, so I wasn't going to say anything.
48:22I've been sort of tracking that. This has happened in a couple mocks that I've done and also seen where he just
48:29– this is the cheapest you're going to be able to get him.
48:33You know, there's all the talk about the injection in the ankle.
48:37Is this the second injection he got? Then it was like, no, he didn't get an injection after the surgery and this is the first one.
48:46But if a news comes out in a week saying like he's going to miss the first two weeks and he's like
48:5390% sure he's going to be back for week three, are you not just smashing that right here?
48:59I think we got to get ready to smash.
49:02Knowing our luck, he doesn't make it. We got one more pick.
49:06And there he – Keaton Mitchell ahead of Alec Pierce.
49:09We got to take it. We got to take it.
49:13Again, he's shown an ability to work deep areas of the field.
49:17He's a deep ball guy. He's a boom guy.
49:20We've got four other solid wide receivers. So just a real upside play here.
49:24I don't think I've drafted a single share of Alec Pierce all offseason.
49:29But again, to your point, when you start seeing guys like Keaton Mitchell go ahead of him, you just got to take a chance here.
49:37So we're going to do it, dude. We're going to catch the falling knife.
49:41We're going to take Alec Pierce, dude. In the 11th, halfway through the 11th.
49:46I think that's honestly our best pick so far, to be honest with you.
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50:57Dude, I'm just saying we're just going to have to take a stand here because we're getting stuck out in the rain with quarterback.
51:05It's now it's Jacoby Brissett, Fernando Mendoza, Aaron Rodgers, Geno Smith.
51:09There goes Kobe Brisket. There goes Kobe Beef. I don't even know if he starts week one at this point.
51:15That's my point. I still don't feel the need to reach on quarterback.
51:20I think we got to at this point. I do – if I regret one thing, it's not pushing for Darnold harder.
51:27But, you know, if JCM comes out and is a solid RB2, then can't complain.
51:32Yeah, I mean, who do you like, bro? Who do you like?
51:36Daniel Jones, Lizgon. Dude, I'll be honest with you.
51:39I'm still not looking at quarterback. Really? Stroud? Is Stroud gone?
51:42They're all gone, dude. There's Geno, Tua, Michael Penix, Kirk Cousins.
51:46Shadour. Shadour could be interesting. Shadour's interesting. We're going to figure it out.
51:50We're on the clock. My cue has Travis Kelsey and Jalen Coker.
51:54Coker. Big Coker. I know, but I think I'm with you, dude.
51:58I think I got to go Coker over Kelsey.
52:01Just because I like Kelsey, I've been very outward about that.
52:05But I'm also a huge Coker. If you actually look me up on X, my background is Jalen Coker as Tony Montana with a pile full of Coke.
52:14So we're going to go with Coker here, man.
52:17I got to plant my flags. Yeah, I don't think you could go wrong with Kelsey there, though, either.
52:24Yeah, yeah. A hundred percent, man. I've been very outward about that.
52:27But I think the one thing is I just still don't want to be stuck pulling from the bottom of the pile at wide receiver.
52:36And I do feel like there are several, several solid tight ends that are still available in the later rounds.
52:42Goddard. Brenton Strange is not terrible. Juwan Johnson. And again, we've got Colston Loveland as sort of that anchor tight end.
52:49So that's kind of how I feel about the quarterback situation, too.
52:53We've got that anchor quarterback. We've got that anchor tight end.
52:57And then we've got four running backs, six wide receivers.
53:00Someone I would have mentioned. I thought he was already.
53:04Yeah. And I agree with you. Early reports are that like Stowers is tight end three on the depth chart.
53:10So I think especially early in the season, he's going to provide you some value.
53:15But again, when you're planting your flags and you're like, hey, I think Colston Loveland is going to be a top two, top three tight end this year.
53:24Then you just got to you got to believe that.
53:28Right. And believe that he's going to be the one hitting your lineup more weeks than not.
53:33Yeah, I'm much more comfortable with the Loveland pick fading tight end until later than I am with Herbert as our only QB.
53:41I mean, I like Herbert a lot. And I know the top five upsides there.
53:46That line's got to stay healthy. I still think they don't have a ton of depth.
53:51Their guards are still, you know, question marks. One of them, at least.
53:55So unless we get totally sniped at quarterback again, which I just think if they're doing that at a certain point, they're
54:03making a mistake by, you know, everybody drafting like a fourth quarterback at this point in a single quarterback league.
54:09Again, if you look at the. I'm looking. OK, this guy up.
54:13He only has two quarterbacks, but then the other guys, three quarterbacks, two quarterbacks, two quarterbacks.
54:19So it's very likely that there could be another quarterback that goes maybe one or two.
54:24We could get sniped here. But I think point being, when we look at the ADP now, you've got Aaron Jones, Woody Marks, Chris Rodriguez, Jonah Coleman.
54:33Yeah. What's your thought about going Jonah after going Harvey?
54:36I'm not against it. I think more than going Harvey and then, you know, taking Dobbins, which I don't think makes any sense.
54:44But getting the hand, because I don't think Harvey's the handcuff for for Dobbins.
54:48Harvey's just going to. He has standalone value. Right.
54:51Value. And right. Coleman, you know, from what I've heard, you know, Peyton likes him a lot.
54:57He's looked good in camp. People are saying he doesn't.
55:00He seems like a like a vet already, like just his presence in there.
55:05I think, you know, Peyton has been shy about going to rookies in the past.
55:10But I think this this just seems a little different with Coleman.
55:14I could see him being a sneaky little best ball play.
55:17We'll see if he falls. But yeah. Talk to us a little bit about what you saw from Coleman at the combine.
55:25I mean, he was one of the you know, in this running back class, you you're looking for for pretty much anybody to establish themselves behind love.
55:34And he was definitely pre combine just looking at film, imagining what type of play is going to be in the NFL.
55:41He was definitely higher up on my board, I think, maybe than than the NFL boards.
55:46But he was. Yeah, I think he was maybe my RB five post post combine.
55:51Yeah, but I guess I just mean we got to he didn't participate in the drills.
55:56Right. So I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about what he did.
56:01I thought there were guys to me and you that I think stuck out in the interviews.
56:06Right. And they just like a dog. Dude, dog.
56:09And he was talking about like, I think he watched his dad get shot.
56:14And he talked about that. I talked about, you know, needing to know how to be a past protector in order to see work in the NFL.
56:23Like his answers were just phenomenal. Punnel grounded like a level level headed guy.
56:28He's got a good head on his shoulders. Thoughtful person.
56:31It seems like he's gonna be smart football player, if nothing else.
56:35And there he goes. And that's OK. That's OK, because.
56:38Let's see who we are up next. OK, and I think we're going to I think we might land this plane, dude.
56:45I don't want to. Yeah, I don't want to shout it out too early, but we might land the plane.
56:52It's always so hard because like there's always a moment of silence.
56:56OK, Brenton Strange. I think I'm OK going Aaron Rodgers here, brother.
57:00Yeah. OK, for sure. That's what I was thinking.
57:03Yeah. Touchdown upside. You know, hopefully. It's a different offense.
57:06It's not freaking Arthur Smith running it anymore. Right.
57:09That's so important. He's back with Mike McCarthy. He's got weapons.
57:13Obviously, he's old as dust, but this is one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
57:18We look at two Michael Penix, her cousin, Shadour.
57:21I'm getting flamed in the chat for not getting another quarterback.
57:25We're going to take the quarterback. Right. Again, it's like him or Woody Marks or, you know, the Dallas Cowboys defense.
57:32Like, I think I'm ready. This is where I'm happy that we kind of passed on quarterback a little bit.
57:38They don't have overlapping bye weeks. That's another thing just to keep in mind is if you draft two or three quarterbacks
57:46and they all have overlapping bye weeks, you kind of shoot yourself in the foot, especially in a total points format.
57:53We were talking about you asking me like, hey, what do you think of this guy's team?
57:58You sent me a roster the other day and his whole roster was built off of like the Jags and the Chargers.
58:05And I was like, hey, it's cool and all.
58:08But like week seven, this guy might literally put up a donut.
58:12You know what I mean? For sure. And if it's total points, yeah.
58:17He had some like James Cook in there as well and some other stuff, but it was like 80% Chargers.
58:23Dude, I think James Cook has a week seven bye week.
58:27Do you have a week seven bye? Yeah, dude.
58:30That's what I was saying when you sent me that.
58:33My eyes immediately went to the bye weeks and I was just like, this dude has all of week seven.
58:40He's just taking off. That's rough. That's rough. But he might just smash, you know, the other 16 weeks.
58:46Right. You don't always need it. Right. But I also think there's that's man.
58:51If you need to put up 120 points a week on average and you have a week where you put up 50 points, it's tough, man.
58:59That's tough. I thought he just went Cowboys D.
59:02I was about to. That is that is actually the Cowboys kicker.
59:06Yes. That's Brandon Aubrey. Yeah, Aubrey makes sense. It's actually so the way this format is, is even if Aubrey goes down,
59:14it's just the next that's the next kicker. Team kicker.
59:17Yeah, it's a team kicker. But this is a format where it's 0.1 points for every field for every yard over 30.
59:24So 60 yard, 63 yard field goal is 6.3 points.
59:27Like there's definitely value in getting those big leg kickers.
59:31Dude, I got I'm kind of the kicker guru, though.
59:34I'm not going to like tout too much, but like go for kickers who play in domes.
59:40Yeah, man. I don't want to give it away on the chat because I think I think there's going to be some
59:47I think there are some listeners who are in this room and might be trying to snipe me.
59:53But I guess my point is, I think we're not thinking kicker here, though.
59:58No, no, not not. That's my point. I think there's kickers.
60:01You can you can kick the can on kickers and in general go for ones that are playing in domes, playing on offense with high scoring.
60:10I actually think it's a bit interesting that the Texans went over the Rams defense, right?
60:15They added McDuffie. They added Garrett. It sounds like it's all but etched in stone that Aaron Donald's going to be back there.
60:23I do think that's the best defense. We are back on the board.
60:27And when goes, I was going to I'm sure you were thinking that.
60:31Do you want to take a flag plan on a rookie receiver here?
60:36I don't really see any that are jumping out to me, dude.
60:40I will. You know, it's Omar Cooper, Jr. I got my guy.
60:44I know who I'm going with here. We got on the board just so you guys know it's a Rondae Gadsden.
60:51I'm totally fading him just at this point, just based on like the Charlie Kohler and the Joku.
60:56I like Gadsden by just it's no need right to take him right here, especially like I said, there's still some value
61:04on tight end left on the board. Dylan Samson.
61:07Nah, I've already got Judkins. Charbonnet going to miss a large portion of the year.
61:12Checo banged up. So we are going to go with the guy I talked about earlier, Trey Harris.
61:18Okay. Okay. I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
61:21I mean, I don't hate it. We have Herbert.
61:24So got a nice little we call that a double stack, brother.
61:28Yeah, the double stack. I'd almost rather have like, I don't know, might be crazy for saying this.
61:34It's too early to take him. I'll wait. I'll wait to say it.
61:38I don't hate Trey Harris. I thought it was a good pick when they took him for like real football to round out their receiving room.
61:47You know, thinking that Keenan Allen's going to be gone and he is.
61:51They have Brennan Thompson now too. I think it's worth mentioning.
61:55McDaniel. That's McDaniel's pick. So like, and I know he loves his speedy wide receivers.
62:00So we'll see like how it shakes out in terms of who's getting on the field for three wide receiver sets.
62:07I think it has to be Harris to start the season though.
62:11Yeah. Yeah. And again, I just don't, I think there's a scenario where he outplays Quinton Johnston.
62:16I think he's the better player. That's hot, maybe a hot take, but I just don't think there's a lot.
62:23Again, he didn't do much his rookie year, so I get it.
62:27But it's just, sometimes you just have to continue to bet on the profiles and not just abandon ship after one year.
62:34This was one of those guys that I saw coming out and was just like, man.
62:39What are your specific advanced metrics that you point to?
62:43What do you like about him? Oh my God.
62:46His yards per route run was just absolutely insane, man.
62:49In college. In college, right? There wasn't a lot to go off of the rookie year.
62:54I'm not going to argue that. But again, I think, you know, me and Matt, the podfather had a really contentious last episode of Dynasty Deep Dive.
63:03And we're talking about, you know, play callers having an impact on the production of players.
63:08I do think McDaniel coming in is just a shot in the arm to that entire offense in terms of, you know,
63:16they're going to be a more aerial attack, I guess, is the best way to put it.
63:21And I think he's going to be taking a fresh look at who his best players are.
63:27So, and again, Trey Harris, another guy, the reports coming out are that he has taken that next step in early off season.
63:35And so someone that I'm excited about. I'm a bit behind on that.
63:39And I'll have to look up some of those beat reports.
63:42We're starting to see tight ends. Yeah, I was going to say, what tight ends are you left?
63:48We've got Sadiq, I'm out. Hawk, I'm out. Schultz, I'm out.
63:52Barner, I'm out. No, I'm not out on Barner.
63:55I'm not fully out on Barner. But I'm not taking any of those guys, I don't think, here.
64:01You're out on Sadiq? I'm kind of out on Sadiq, man.
64:05What's he dealing with? Is it a hammy? Or no, it's like a hernia.
64:09Yeah, a hernia. Man, when he's on the field, though.
64:13That's what I just listen. I've been listening to the Oregon Duck truthers out there.
64:18And they're saying the same thing, all of them.
64:21That he's the best player out there when he's on the field.
64:24It's just sometimes he's not on the field. But do you remember, again, shout out to the Combine, when we were asking
64:32him about not as like, you're going to be the first first round offensive skill player.
64:37That was my favorite answer. Drafted since Benjamin Watson to have less than 1,000 career yards.
64:42What do you have to say about that? Or something like that.
64:46And he's like, I'm going to help out on special teams.
64:50Not a great answer. But you know, dude, I only put so much stock into those.
64:55I know, I know. I'm kind of clowning. But again, I think that's my red flag with him.
65:01It's just the production never blew me away. And honestly, the film's pretty solid.
65:06But again, we just talked about the Jets, right?
65:09There's a lot of different targets there. Who's the Mason Taylor?
65:12Wasn't he? I mean, they seem to every year be able to feed the tight end at least.
65:18Dude, Mason Taylor did nothing last year. Not Mason Taylor.
65:22Who was it? Was it Conklin? Conklin was bad too.
65:25Maybe I'm tripping. Yeah, you are tripping a little bit.
65:28And I think to that point, Mason Taylor is still a second round pick.
65:33Mason Taylor may give him, may eat into his snap share a lot.
65:37As soon as he's missing some of camp. Yeah.
65:40So interesting. Jaden Blue goes off the board. I've got a guy queued up who I really like.
65:46We're going to see how it comes around. But we'll just see.
65:50And I am. Oh, there he goes. Alvin Kamara.
65:53I was curious if you were going to agree with me on that.
65:57Jalen Naylor goes. I'll be honest. Now I'm kind of caught with my pants down because I don't really.
66:04What have you been hearing about Jacoby Lane? I mean, good things.
66:08I just don't know if I'm willing to take him here yet.
66:12Really? Give me a second. I mean, you could go with the tight end that you were talking about.
66:18I mean, it's a bit early, but I wouldn't hate it.
66:22You're going to hate me for this? Okay. Adonai.
66:25Yeah. He spent an hour talking about fading their offense into a play.
66:29Yeah, Cyrus Allen, dude. We should have gone Cyrus Allen.
66:32Yeah. Yeah. No, we should have just taken him in the first.
66:36Oh. I'm serious. You win 80? That's crazy. I would have gone Sadiq over 80, but that's fun.
66:42I think Cyrus Allen went in like round 26 like a week ago.
66:46Yeah. Well, he's just going to. Yeah. I think that maybe that's where he peaked.
66:51I don't know. Have you seen the videos of Rice at training camp?
66:56I don't know how much to be scared about that.
66:59Oh, Rasheed Rice? Yeah. I mean, it's ugly, bro.
67:02But it never really looked good to me. He's been a guy who I've always been like.
67:08He finds the zone and yeah, he's not going to be a burner, but he does not look as like a guy
67:15that should be on the field right now, in my opinion.
67:18And you're a total fade on worthy. So I just think like, who's going to catch the walls?
67:24Like, that's why I was kind of high on Kelsey.
67:28If Mahomes plays to week one, there's going to be, you know, there's going to be full season value of whoever you get as a patch catcher there.
67:37Yeah. It's just hard to get it right, dude.
67:40And we've gotten burned so many times with. If their defense is worse, though, they're going to be throwing more.
67:47I'm just like, let me list them all. Justin Ross, Sky Moore.
67:51Like the list goes on and on of these hyped up wide receivers from the Chiefs during camp and they just don't
67:58end up going on to do anything. Be on the lookout.
68:01Damond, Claiborne, love that. Coach, he is on my list.
68:05I got one guy I would take ahead of him if he falls, but he is.
68:10I am. I'm with you, brother. I'm on the lookout.
68:13I love what you said. Me too. Actually, I've been trying to get more Claiborne, especially recently.
68:19I feel like there's so much upside in that backfield.
68:22Yeah. And Jones gets dinged up. Mason gets dinged up pretty consistently.
68:26And their early reports are that this guy looks like fast as lightning, just like he did in college.
68:33Right. Love the Trey Harris pick. Salute coach. Thank you for that.
68:36Again, I've got a guy queued up. We'll just see how the chips fall.
68:41I think I might know who you're talking about.
68:44Did you mention him earlier? Yeah, he's on the list.
68:47Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again. I would maybe go Claiborne over him, but yeah.
68:52But dude, you have to understand. There is a bit of positional scarcity with some of these, right?
68:58And there he goes. There he goes. Yeah. Terrence Ferguson, sleeper pick.
69:02Great pick. That's what I was thinking. That wasn't who you were thinking I was talking about?
69:08I thought we were on running backs. But yeah, Terrence Ferguson, I know you're high.
69:13I mean, they got so many guys in that room.
69:16So many guys in that room. There goes Demond.
69:19Okay, we're on the clock, man. Sadiq's falling. To your point, we got Hawkinson on the board.
69:24Pacheco. Omar Cooper. Almost to your point, if I was going to take a flag plan and be Cooper, but I just took AD.
69:32Is it too early to go defense? Is it too early to go Jags defense?
69:37I think it's too early to go Jags defense.
69:40Eagles defense? I think I like Jags defense, bro.
69:43I like Jags defense, too. Is that where their ADP is?
69:47We're getting around where they are actually on ADP.
69:50I'm going to go with it, dude. We need a defense.
69:54It's a kind of crappy division, you know? They're going to get Arizona week one or something?
69:59You know what? I'm not entirely sure. They actually have a pretty tough schedule.
70:04That is something that I will call out. They have a tough schedule, but they were a really solid defense last year.
70:11I think they'll only continue to get better. Sadiq's still falling.
70:15Yeah, what running backs are they? Running backs. We got Pacheco, Johnson, Robinson, Katron Allen, Nick Singleton, Ray Davis.
70:21Ray Davis is really interesting to me because, again, at this point, we've got four solid RBs.
70:27I think at a certain point, you have to start looking at who are the running backs who have the most contingent upside.
70:34I would say Johnson. Man, I told you about this.
70:38He's listed as RB4 on the depth chart right now, which I'm not putting too much stock into, but I'm also like I like Rashard Smith coming out.
70:47Apparently, Amari DiMarcato is like they have a lot of trust in him.
70:51I really am cautious on some of these rookies just banking on them to be immediately productive in year one.
70:58It's like if this was a dynasty draft, it would be a completely different discussion.
71:03Yeah, we wouldn't be there, but yeah. Yeah, DiMarcato though, really?
71:06Dude, I know. I know. I know. It sounds gross.
71:10It is what it is. But I think you probably heard there's a lot of positive praise coming out around AD Mitchell.
71:17He did have, again, a guy who could offer you some boom games.
71:21Yeah, and hopefully Gino. I mean, the Jets, the one thing the Jets actually do kind of have is they have two bookend tackles and a decent O-line.
71:30Gino, if he gets time, I mean, he's not going to – he was so bad last year, but I just feel
71:38like a lot of that was the situation around him with the O-line and the receiving core and everything like that and the play calling.
71:46I think Gino can elevate the Jets' offense from what it has been.
71:50I mean, they're not going to set the world on fire, but I think there's some value taking some of these guys
71:58that are getting faded because they're on that team.
72:01So AD Mitchell I like. I don't hate it.
72:04Dude, it's crazy though. Pacheco hanging out – or Sadiq still hanging out, right?
72:08Yeah, people are worried about the injury, and it makes sense.
72:12It makes sense. I think there's so many factors there, like I was talking about, having a second-round tight end there, having
72:19a lot of different options in that offense and him not being overly productive, and then you layer that in with the injury.
72:27It's just like there's a lot of risk there.
72:30Kata Otten going ahead of him though. I mean, that is just like nuts, man.
72:35Otten, yeah. He's there tight end one. But your boy's still there, right?
72:39Who's my boy? Oh, maybe not. Oh, never mind.
72:42No, he went. Yeah, I mean, we should probably think about tight end.
72:46100%. Again, I still think there are some sneaky, sneaky values at tight end.
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73:13Give me a look. Tell me who you think's put together the best team.
73:18Yeah, let me see. Ravens defense could be sneaky good this year.
73:22Not a bad pick. Yeah, they were bad last year, but they're going to be a lot better.
73:28Man, I really like our first four. Don't you love that?
73:31When I ask you your favorite team and you say ours.
73:35Yeah, these teams are nice, bro, but for the three-wide receiver, like McCaffrey, Walker, Devontae, Mike Evans.
73:41If Mike Evans stays healthy. I like Lamb Chase Brown, Naver's burden.
73:45With Caleb's stack and the Prescott stack. Yeah, I like Team 11.
73:49Coram, Tyson, yeah. I like Team 11. What do you think?
73:52The Chase Burrow stack's always scary. Team 3's not bad.
73:56Garrett Wilson in the fourth. Yeah, it's like just dependent on Burrow staying healthy, right?
74:01If they put together a full 16 teams, then that'd be good.
74:05I mean, Burrow, he's not going to get hurt every year, is he?
74:09No, I'm not arguing with you on that. I'm just saying, like, you know.
74:13Yeah, you just can't predict it, right? Like that.
74:16Gunnar Helm would have been nice. Helm's a guy I was excited about, especially coming out of college.
74:22Kind of a dog, too. Yeah, I like Helm.
74:25But there's some reports that Bellinger could be that guy who's actually seeing a majority of the snaps.
74:31They've all brought him in. He's a better blocker.
74:34Kind of fits the scheme a little better. I'm excited because I've got a bunch of players queued up and none of them have been taken.
74:43Tank Dell, love the player. Getting back to health.
74:46He was on my list. So we're up, we're up.
74:49Are you thinking Dolchich? Is that what you're thinking?
74:52No, no, no, no. I'm going to make a bit of an interesting pick here.
74:57I'm going to go with Ray Davis. I do think he is one of the better handcuff backs in this entire ecosystem.
75:04Again, any time that James Cook has not been playing, he's gotten 20-plus carries and gotten 20-plus fantasy points.
75:11And I think I told you that was sort of my approach, right?
75:15We've got eight solid wide receivers. I guess you could maybe say seven if you don't want to consider Adonai Mitchell.
75:22Or maybe six if you don't want to consider Trey Harris and him really solid.
75:27But I think they both have a really solid ability to see a lot of snaps this year.
75:33So, again, at this point, I start looking at kind of filling out with upside running backs, filling out our tight end
75:40room, filling out the quarterback room, and not having to go for guys like Antonio Williams or actually like Zachariah Branch.
75:47We're going to grab a few more wide receivers, but again, I just think – Different on the rookie receivers.
75:54I'm going to huge – I don't think any of the Falcons wide receiver twos are going to be viable this year.
76:01And I'm not convinced it's Branch right away anyway.
76:04I'd much rather have like Ted Hurst if he's still there.
76:08Is he? Yeah, he's still here. I'd almost guarantee it, dude.
76:11Hurst and Lane right now for me are the two guys I think that have like upside.
76:17Antonio Williams I like, but – You got a picture with Jacoby Lane at the combine and Makai Lemon.
76:23Yeah, both of them. I'm a big SC fan, so we were stoked to get the photo op with the boys.
76:30Makai Lemon's going to be a dog. Jacoby Lane seems like he's a dog.
76:35And by the way, Jacoby Lane is one of the most impressive 21, 22-year-olds I've ever met.
76:40That guy, good head on his shoulder, carries the conversation well.
76:44Hell yeah, brother. Definitely a guy that – sort of the opposite of Makai Lemon in a way.
76:50But not to dog on Makai. Just Makai's more soft-spoken is what I mean.
76:55No, I know what you mean. Dude, I thought that all got blown out of proportion.
77:00Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we were right there. He's doing his little snake thing.
77:04But he just – He wasn't that bad. People were like, oh my god, take him off the board.
77:11Yeah. He's just a dog, bro. He's just – he's got his own – he's got his own world in his head where he's the best player.
77:20And he might as well – he may be.
77:23We'll see. Dude, I've got some interesting stuff brewing in my brain.
77:27And you're – I can tell we're not completely aligned.
77:30I'm still going to cut you in on the winnings.
77:33If we win big, I'm still going to cut you in.
77:37And I don't think you've given me anybody that I've like – I think I've gone with who I want to go
77:44with, which is probably how it should be when I'm – you know, it's my entry.
77:49But – Yeah, for sure. Dude, shout out to Blake.
77:53Can we give Blake some love in the chat for talking ball with me and hopping on this?
77:59Hey, bro, I'm just happy to be here. This is the funnest time of the year.
78:04Draft season. And yeah, thanks for having me, bro.
78:07This is all thanks to you and Player Profiler.
78:10Hell yeah, bro. Like I said, as the guy said earlier, coming in here for a 30-round draft is no easy task.
78:17So shout out to you. We're on the board.
78:20I got a guy who I'm going to go with.
78:24And it's a bit of a – it's an interesting pick.
78:27It is a stack. So we like that. It doesn't conflict with the bye week of the other position I have here.
78:34We're going to look at Pat Friermuth, baby. They were playing a lot of their starters early.
78:40They had – actually, they really weren't playing a lot of their starters.
78:44They had Darnell Washington out there running some routes in this preseason game that just started.
78:50And they did not have Friermuth out there. They did not have Rodgers out there.
78:55I think we see a bit of a resurgence with Friermuth this year.
78:59I get behind that. I think he's a screaming value, especially at this point when you're talking about guys who literally might not score a point.
79:08Like there are some guys who have been drafted who will almost be like total zeros.
79:13And that is a starting tight end on what I think will be an improved offense.
79:18So I'm going Friermuth here. We've kind of rounded out that tight end room a little more.
79:24Still some solid tight end values on the board.
79:27Would have loved to have gotten Ferguson, like I told you.
79:30I think there's been a lot of reports about him.
79:34You know, the problem with him, I think everybody knows it, is there's like 20 tight ends in that room, right?
79:41Maybe he's still there. Parkinson looks like – you know, he's a bit of a target vulture.
79:46Fergie – Parkinson is. Yeah, and dude, they drafted Max Clare in the second round.
79:51You know what I mean? In the second? Yeah.
79:54Yeah. I forgot it was that early. Yeah. Kind of crazy, right?
79:58You take – We asked him at the combine too, like his production disappeared.
80:03It was him and Kazmeric there. Kazmeric was the blocker, right?
80:06Like Kazmeric's the blocker. But then you see a huge dip in production as they're like ramping up towards the playoffs.
80:13And asked Max Clare what happened there. And, you know, he basically gave the right answer that he was just trying to help the team out.
80:22They were calling a lot more two tight end blocking sets for running plays.
80:27He was doing a lot more of the dirty work.
80:30I could see him having blocking value early. I don't think he's going to like be a threat to Ferguson.
80:36I'm more concerned about the Parkinson-Higby combo in the red zone.
80:40Steeland looks from – and Devontae Adams. Right. Steeland looks in the red zone from Fergie.
80:45But I know they like Ferguson a lot. I think he's the most talented tight end of the bunch physically, athletically.
80:52Colorado guy too. Born in – or he went – grew up in Cherry Creek in Denver.
80:58Cherry Creek boy. Yeah, he has actually – when I was at the Combine two years ago, I was asking him about
81:05like would you want to play for the Broncos?
81:08And he was like undoubtedly. Yeah, I'm sure he would love that.
81:12I'm sure he's got a lot of family here still.
81:15Does that mean Jake's from here too? Jake Ferguson.
81:18Are they – they're not related. I'm just kidding.
81:21I'm just kidding. Like people – I feel like people out there still think that they are though.
81:27And it was like for like the first – when he was in Oregon, I was like I just assumed they were brothers.
81:35And I was like they're totally different like athlete, like different players.
81:39So – but yeah. Just for anybody wondering, they're not brothers.
81:43When are you thinking kicker, by the way? Dude, I'm thinking kicker.
81:47Just the whole time? Okay. I don't think I've done a best ball draft this year with D and kickers yet.
81:54Yeah, yeah. Dude, it is a unique format. And I think that's part of the challenge, but it's also part of the fun, right?
82:01So Jacoby Lane goes. Honestly, you're high on him.
82:04Pretty high on Jacoby right now. I don't know, man.
82:08I just struggle with like it's going to be Derek Henry, Mark Andrews, Zay Flowers.
82:13And I just don't know how much of the pie is left for anybody else.
82:18I would much rather have the wide receiver two on the Ravens than the wide receiver two on the Falcons.
82:24But what if the wide receiver two on the Ravens is Rashad Bateman?
82:29I don't think it is. That's what they're saying, man.
82:32I don't think it will be. Dude, Bateman's actually not like – he's not a bad player.
82:38He's just really – I mean, he put it all together two years ago, right?
82:42He's had flashes. Like he's had flashes. But what is this?
82:46Year four, year five for him? Yeah, I think it's like year six almost.
82:51Yeah, year six, bro. Like what are we still going to – we're still saying Bateman is going to be wide receiver two.
82:58I'm willing to play my flag on lane at this point.
83:02Well, it's too late, brother. He's gone. I know.
83:05But, you know, it's your baby. I'm just here for – You're just here to watch me kill the baby?
83:12Just here to watch you put the baby in the microwave.
83:15Dude, I'm about to make maybe the hottest pick of the entire draft.
83:20Who's that? Nice, dude. Yeah. Let's see what you got.
83:23What I would say right now is perfect timing.
83:26Yeah, do it. Yeah, I love it. That's where he goes.
83:29That's where he should go. I mean, dude, Watson looks like – he looks like doo-doo still.
83:35You know, he's got no life in that arm.
83:38As good or bad as you think Sanders is, he's going to start 10 games this year.
83:44I think – and I think he's shown some flashes, right?
83:47He's so inconsistent. But, again, in best ball, if you can give me one or two 20, 30-point weeks, then it's an easy payoff at ADP here.
83:56I think they're going to be in a lot of low-scoring games is my biggest worry.
84:02But – Yeah. You don't really get a good stack with him in Judkins, but that's okay.
84:07Yeah. Well, dude, there are still some wide receivers from that team on the board.
84:12I'm not saying they're extremely interesting, but like Isaiah Bond – well, I think Bond might have gone, actually.
84:18Bond off? Yeah, Bond's gone, bro. Wait, is Judy?
84:21Judy's gone. Bond's gone. Yeah, I don't think anybody's left.
84:25Boston's gone, which is just kind of – again, I feel like there's got to be – I think Bond should have hung around a little more, man.
84:34Yeah, I wouldn't think – You're taking the wide receiver four of a pretty crappy offense.
84:39Do you think – are you buying the Boston wide receiver one talks?
84:44No, man. I think KC Concepcion is going to be that guy who gets just the highest target share.
84:50And we talked about this with Boston at the Combine.
84:53He's totally cool being a sacrificial X. He's like, I want to be an X.
84:58That's what I play. And unless you've got a guy like Stafford or one of those guys who can really pinpoint it
85:05down the field, those X receivers just aren't as interesting to me.
85:09Fair point. I also think Judy sticks around as much as everybody hates that.
85:14Yeah. I think he's going to be sticky, unfortunately.
85:17What do you think impositionally? I'm looking at a couple tight ends.
85:21There goes your boy, Ted Hurst. There is one other wide receiver who, honestly, I think if these guys were watching the
85:28game earlier today, they might be thinking about it a bit differently.
85:32We'll see in a second here if he's still on the board.
85:36Just looking at ADPs and just kind of where these guys are going on average.
85:41Yeah. Team two. Okay. We're on the clock. I'm going to do it, dude.
85:46I'm going to go with Jeremy, dude. Yeah. Hell yeah.
85:49I'm a huge Jeremy Bernard fan. Yeah. I've been a little bit less so since training camp just with some of the reports.
85:57But I think, you know, he's a second round pick.
86:00Was he the first wide receiver in the second round or did he go after Shriveling?
86:05Yeah. After Shriveling. Shriveling was like pick 33. Yeah.
86:08So you couldn't be higher in the second round than Shriveling.
86:12But again, to that point. Dude, all it takes is, you know, Michael Pittman.
86:16How many times has he played 17 games? Right.
86:19Well, in the reports are that he's going to play outside in that kind of that Z role.
86:25They're talking up Roman Wilson. That calf's going to be in that X role.
86:30Yeah. They're talking up Roman Wilson. I don't believe it.
86:33Full stop. And dude, honestly, that hits the stack, dude.
86:37Double stack. We got Friermuth. We got Bernard. And we got Rodgers.
86:41And again, if that offense has life to it, there's no way that's not a value getting those guys after pick 200.
86:48Right? So going for the Bengals defense. Bit interesting for sure.
86:52Yeah. I mean, they're going to be better. It's hard to be worse.
86:56Their schedule, I'm assuming, is probably pretty favorable is maybe why.
86:59But yeah, I don't know. I don't think I would have made that pick.
87:04I'm loving it, dude. Should we double D here?
87:07Yeah. We're going to – we're actually getting kind of tiered to the bottom of the barrel with D.
87:13You're seeing them start to fly off the board.
87:16So we'll see. There's two left, actually. I don't want to ruin it, bro.
87:21I'm just kidding. But yeah. If you are listening to this and you're in this draft room, just keep hammering other positions besides defense right now.
87:30Do me a favor. He's won three defenses in a row, which honestly – but he's got four defenses.
87:36And again, in best ball, I kind of understand the allure.
87:39And there it goes. I think that Cowboys D could have been sneaky good, dude.
87:44Quentin Williams. I was real – that was who I had queued up.
87:49I was hoping they came back around. Yeah. Downs looks pretty good in camp.
87:53Uh, that's a bit sad. But not the end of the world.
87:57I do think we're going to see at least one more defense go.
88:02I'm curious. Because – Defenses left on the board.
88:05Raiders, Commanders, Dolphins, Jets, Cardinals. Commanders, maybe. Really? I thought you might say the Jets.
88:10Yeah, Jets, too. I mean, I know they – Commanders did a point, though.
88:14I just know that they really made that a priority.
88:17Who? The Commanders. What did they do? I'm going to look it up because I don't remember.
88:23And there they go. Yeah. Not going to look it up anymore.
88:27I know they did a lot, though, in the draft and free agency.
88:31It's really the Dolphins, the Jets, and the Cardinals.
88:34And there go the Jets. We've got to take a second defense here.
88:39You can't go Dolphins, right? I don't think you can go Dolphins.
88:43I think we – as bad as it is, I think we can go Cardinals.
88:48It's kind of rough. But we're – It's pretty disgusting, dude.
88:51Those are the two – like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
88:54I still love Jeremy Bernal. It is what it is, right?
88:58We're kind of stuck with it at this point.
89:01And again, we'll just hope that the Jags are going to hold it down and that the Cardinals can maybe put together
89:08a couple weeks that – What are the bi-weeks?
89:11Okay, 7 and 14. Let me just – let me try and see schedules.
89:16Do a quick recap of our team. We got JSN in round 1, AJ Brown in round 2, Ladd McConkie round 3,
89:23Loveland round 4, Judkins round 5, Brian Thomas round 6, Justin Herbert round 7, Harvey in the 8th, Dowdle in the 9th,
89:30Krosky Merritt in the 10th, Pierce in the 11th, Coker in the 12th.
89:35I think those are great values. Here's the Rodgers in the 13th, Trey Harris in the 14th, A.D.
89:41Mitchell in the 15th, Jags defense in the 16th, Gray Davis 17th round, Pat Pryor move 18th round, Shador perfect timing, Sanders
89:48in the 19th, Jeremy in the 20th. I stopped watching because we had to hop on this stream.
89:54I've got it up in the background. Dude, he had like four catches for like 80 yards and he might have a couple of people missed.
90:02Jeremy Renard stock in Dynasty, bro. I mean, he's a value, right?
90:06He's kind of just slipping in. He slipped in this.
90:10And sometimes you just have to follow the draft capital.
90:13You have to follow, you know, played at some big schools, played with at Michigan State where he didn't necessarily break out.
90:20I think he was battling for targets with like Keon Coleman, Jayden Reed.
90:24And like it was a pretty crowded wide receiver room and he was still somewhat productive.
90:30It was still Jayden Reed. I couldn't believe that, but that's true.
90:34They did overlap there. So I'm just thinking of the Jags schedule for their defense.
90:39So we're going to get Cleveland week one, which I think we're super happy with there.
90:44Money. Yeah. That's why I was high on Jacksonville.
90:47I couldn't remember if it was Arizona or. Just whoever plays Cleveland once.
90:51We might just win based off that. Denver week two, honestly, like, I don't know.
90:56I don't know how good our offense, Broncos offense, is going to look early in the season.
91:02Right. I think that's fun. Patriots week three. And the Cardinals play San Francisco week three.
91:07So not ideal. The good news is the Cardinals get the Giants the week after when the Jags have Cincy.
91:14So maybe the Cardinals, you know, hold them under 300 yards.
91:17Oh, yeah. How does the defensive scoring work, by the way?
91:21Just very standard. Like, you know, 12 points for a shutout or something like that.
91:26You know, interceptions, two points, things like that. So pretty standard scoring settings for defense.
91:31Nothing like crazy. Okay. Yeah, for sure. And I think Jacksonville is going to be good enough to where, like, matchups against
91:38Denver and Philly aren't even going to be that scary.
91:42Right. For us, like, Houston week six should be good.
91:45And then the bye. I think the beautiful part is, dude, all the defenses are gone.
91:50So we don't even, we can just kind of move on.
91:54Like, we're stuck with two defenses. We're not stuck with one at least.
91:58You know, it is what it is. We're going to be up on the board here next.
92:04So I'm thinking big run of kickers. Yeah, I'm okay passing on kicker for a little bit more.
92:10I'm still not there yet. I am curious. You think Evan Ingram puts it together a little more this year?
92:16Or do you think Darren Waller is the better fit?
92:20He's got some buzz. Ingram does. Yeah, he does.
92:23But they brought in Joe Lee. I don't think Joe Lee did much early.
92:27Yeah, it's between him or Waller for you? I think I got to go Waller, dude.
92:32Yeah. Like, just for his rap skills, if nothing else, man.
92:36This dude can freaking spit some bars, man. And no joke, that actually shows me something.
92:41Like, this dude is a cerebral, talented dude. He's got the drugs out of his life.
92:47He's got Kelsey Plum out of his life. He still wants to play ball after retiring.
92:52I think that's the worst case, is he retires from me midseason again.
92:56But at tight end three, he's got some splash upside.
93:00We're going to go with Darren Waller. Again, taking him ahead of, or like two picks before Michael Mayer, I think is a sign of a solid pick.
93:09I like Michael Mayer, dude, just because, you know, if Bowers goes down.
93:13Right. There's contingent upside. But I think Waller is going to be the week one starter.
93:18And as long as he stays healthy, you know, he's not worried about Jatavian Sanders or Mitchell Evans.
93:24Yeah. But, you know, as long as he stays healthy.
93:28He's a thing for sure. I love how when I said that about Burrow, you're like, oh, man, he doesn't.
93:34He can't get hurt. What's Waller's 39 years old?
93:37You know what I mean? Dude, stop. 29, 30.
93:40Yeah. Different positions. Dude, one other guy who is apparently running with the ones more than Hunter Henry is Eli Raradon.
93:47Yeah, I like Raradon. I was going to say, I thought you were targeting him earlier, but I wasn't going to say anything.
93:55I think he's the type of guy we could literally get in around 30.
93:59You think so? Yeah, but I don't know if we need four tight ends.
94:04We don't. We definitely don't. At this point, I think we should look to Phil running back.
94:10But goddamn, what running backs are left? Michael Fay, learn from the previous mistakes, fellas.
94:15First off, I want to say thank you for joining the stream and watching and commenting, but I want you to elaborate.
94:22Tell me what you mean. What are the mistakes?
94:25Are you talking about mistakes we made on this draft?
94:28Just elaborate for us, please. And again, we've still got five running backs and we've got nine wide receivers.
94:35And I think I told you my optimal build would probably be something like that.
94:39Three quarterbacks, three tight ends, nine wide receivers earlier than later, and then start filling in the back half of this draft,
94:47which is some contingent upside plays at running back with some murky running back room.
94:52So I've got a host of names of players that I like that fit that bill.
94:57We're going to start looking into them. Right. It's gone.
95:00Ollie Gordon, maybe. Is that something you're thinking about?
95:03Yeah. Ollie Gordon is on the list for sure.
95:06He's on the list of guys I like. But he's, again, that's a guy deep.
95:11Deep, deep. A lot, you know, deep. I mean, he could go, right?
95:16Yeah. I mean, Jalen Rag went there. That's the only reason I've seen that.
95:20You sure you don't want to go kicker? Let me look at what's left of kicker.
95:25Falcons kicker, Bills kicker, Titans, Packers. Is it Bass for the Bills still?
95:30I'm not even sure. Because Bills, I mean, you know, good kicker on a good offense.
95:35Yeah, it looks like it is. Is Bass healthy?
95:38He's one of those guys, right? Who gets dinged up as much as Burrow does.
95:43I like this guy hurt all the time. How are you a wider or a kicker who's always hurt?
95:49Get a stretch, bro. Eagles, yeah. Yeah, good one.
95:52I can't believe. I actually like Trace Mack was looking good.
95:56Yeah, Trace Mack. And there goes a Bills as well.
95:59So, again, I think here's an interesting take. I think you've got to lean into kickers playing in domes, dude.
96:06You've got Cardinals, Falcons, Raiders. Those are dome teams left.
96:09Raiders have a rookie, right? Because they're not going Carlson.
96:12Or no, they have Carlson. I'm thinking Packers, the other Carlson.
96:16Yeah, I think I'm going to go with the Falcons here, dude.
96:20Really? Okay. I don't even know who their kicker is.
96:23It's not Coup anymore. No. No. Let's look who it is.
96:27Falcons kicker. Nick Folk, baby! He didn't side 40.
96:30I'll say that. Dude, that is a plus easy move that I just made.
96:35We just got future Hall of Famer Nick Folk in round 25.
96:39I had no idea he was kicking for the Falcons.
96:42QB in defense. Michael, thank you for elaborating. I can agree with that.
96:46I can agree with you, brother. But again, I think Jags end up being a top 5D unit in some world.
96:53And Herbert ends up being a top 5QB. I think we've layered.
96:57You got to start three wide receivers every week, right?
97:00You got to fill in that flex position. It seems like, in my opinion, that this format, they just are so bullish
97:08on really hitting on some of those late round picks.
97:11And again, I'd much rather have some of those upside plays at those positional plays than going all in on a defense
97:18or on some quarterbacks that just don't excite me.
97:21Would be really fun if Rodgers can put together a top 12 QB finish this year to go out.
97:27That would be super cool. And again, these are the types of things you have to take some swings.
97:34You know what I mean? You have to take some swings.
97:37So appreciate you. Like I said, appreciate the comments.
97:40Appreciate you participating in the draft, Michael Fay, and giving us your thoughts.
97:45I am curious, if you want to keep commenting, tell me a little more about some of the high stakes drafts you
97:52do and if you play NFFC a lot, because I am curious to hear your thoughts.
97:57And again, we are heading into around... Are we halfway there yet?
98:0124. We're two-thirds of the way there. I don't know.
98:05We're like three-quarters. I don't know. Five-sixths of the way there.
98:08Let's break down the math here. What running backs are left?
98:12Dude, I got so many tabs open. I'm like having a seizure.
98:16Yeah, it can be tough. So you're crushing it though, brother.
98:19You're doing a hell of a job. Thanks, man.
98:22Appreciate you. Let's look. So I am curious, Seth McGowan getting a lot of buzz as that backup running back.
98:29Again, some contingent upside there. Still on the board.
98:32We got Jalen Wright. I think... No, he's probably gone.
98:35Jalen Wright went earlier. I'm assuming Bixby's gone, right?
98:38Oh, of course, dude. Long, long gone. I think Rasheed Ali is an interesting one, but I think he's gone.
98:45Where do you think he's gone? I just don't even see him.
98:49No, he's not. I'm going to go with McGowan here.
98:52I'm not overly in love with him, but I just think Taylor's a guy who struggled to stay healthy.
98:58There's just been a lot of buzz about him early on.
99:02So we're going to go with McGowan here. And we're taking some swings at guys who could slot in to get 10
99:09to 15 carries if that primary running back goes down.
99:13And when you're getting that in round 26, I really like it.
99:17Here's what I like about McGowan. If Taylor goes down, McGowan is 6'2", like 25.
99:22Like, he's going to get goal line touches. Like, I think it's a safe upside pick there, betting on, not betting on injury, but as a contingency plan.
99:31If he was like a little scat back, backing up Taylor, I would be less buzzed about it, I think.
99:37Does that make sense? Yeah, 100%. That's the whole thesis, right?
99:41This is a player who's a bulldog. Yeah. Now, are you trying to double kicker?
99:46Yeah, we got to land another kicker. Okay. So I think that's kind of, again, I'm okay fading kicker because now we're
99:53talking about guys like Seth McGowan instead of passing on someone with substantially more upside in those earlier rounds to go grab a kicker.
100:01So I'm cool with this approach. At least our boy who's been commenting didn't flame us, Michael Fay, for fading the kicker.
100:09So shout out to that. Let's hear what he said.
100:12Not all in on defense, just being the last ones.
100:15You normally want three of both in this format just due to variance of position.
100:20Fair enough. Yeah, he's making good points. Dude, I still want to hear more about like, what are some of that?
100:27What are you drafting on NFFC, Michael Fay? Are you, what's kind of the highest stakes league you've entered?
100:33I just, because I like when we get someone who seems like they know what they're talking about, participating in the draft, offering some good insights.
100:42So I'm all ears, man. Curious for you, Ali Gordon or Rasheen Ali?
100:46Ali Gordon. Yeah. Let me check, actually. But yeah, just top of my head, I'd say Gordon.
100:52But I have some form of, I don't know if my rankings even go that far, to be honest.
100:58Yeah. Ali, I've already gone to my ranking. Yeah.
101:01I'm not even really on. I'm not even thinking Rashe Ali, to be honest with you.
101:06Dude, I think it's sneaky. I mean, Justice Hill is a guy who's going to not play that every down roll if anything happened to Henry.
101:15Randall's very developmental. Yeah. I think there was one or two games where they were like, they kind of eased up on Henry.
101:23It was either a blowout or something like that.
101:26And it was like, he kind of slotted into that.
101:29Okay. I missed that. Oh, damn. And we are hung out to dry, dude.
101:34We just got bone. No kickers left. One kicker.
101:37I did the fatal flaw. Yeah. Well, you know, you live and you learn.
101:41Look at this guy. Play a lot on here.
101:44Lucky enough to have won this overall two years ago.
101:47It does not sound like luck. You're being modest.
101:50Yeah. That's big money. Justice Hill goes. I think we're going with Ali Gordon here, dude.
101:56Yeah. I like it. Still other options. Mafa. Interesting.
101:59Interesting. Emmanuel Wilson. Interesting. Jordan James is gone. Jordan James is still there.
102:03You going with any of those guys over Ali Gordon?
102:06Maybe Jordan James. Let's do it, dude. We think we think this guy's built a glass.
102:12McCaffrey. We passed on him at sixth overall. You got to kind of take a stand there, right?
102:18James is banged up a bit. Is he not?
102:21Yeah, he's banged up. But so is freaking. Is Black banged up as well?
102:25So, Kalen Black. I mean, who isn't banged up with San Francisco?
102:29Just give me a fresh body on that field.
102:32And they're going to do it. Honestly, I think they're going to get some of the higher over-unders this year.
102:39So, just with the defense-offense combo and their division.
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103:02Yeah, I like the Jordan James fake. Maybe Alan Gordon gets back.
103:06We'll see. Dude, it is really, really rough, though, to his point.
103:10You fade those positions, and then you're stuck with one kicker.
103:13And it's the Falcons kicker. It's Hall of Famer Nick Fulk, dude.
103:17Putting up a bagel in Week 11 during the bye week for my kicker position.
103:22Could be worse, right? Yeah, I'd rather be hurting a kicker than wide receiver.
103:27Yeah. Man. Douglas. A really interesting pick, actually, going this late.
103:31Definitely fell. Totally forgot about him. Holy smokes, Caleb Douglas.
103:34I just assumed, dude, because I can't see ADP.
103:37I'm just this. I assumed he wasn't there. He's buried.
103:40He's not. That's the thing. He's not near the top of ADP.
103:44So it was a bit. What other. Is he the first Dolphins receiver off the board?
103:49That's a good question. Tolbert is still on the board.
103:53Malik Washington is gone. Okay, Washington win. That makes sense.
103:56But yeah, I think Douglas is. That's crazy, though.
103:59Solid pick. Probably would have went him over Jordan James.
104:02Yeah, me too, bro. That's a diamond in the rough right there.
104:06Kevin Coleman? I'm out. Out on him? I actually like the player.
104:10I'm just so out on the offense. You know what I mean?
104:14Yeah, I'm out on the combine. There were a lot of real nerds there that were big Kevin Coleman guys.
104:21Real nerds. That were big high on. Big up on.
104:24On the Missouri kid. But I. I agree. The offense is not going to be.
104:29It's not going to support one wide receiver. Maybe.
104:32Let alone. Three. Two or three. And then what's the deal with Chris Bell?
104:37Is he going to play at all this year?
104:40I'm curious if he already got drafted. Yeah. Is Chris Bell still on the board?
104:45He'll probably play. I do think. That might not be a terrible pick.
104:49Yeah, I might take him. I think that's kind of my approach with wide receivers almost at this point.
104:55We'll come back to it around 30. He has serious talent.
104:59Yeah. No, solid player. Solid player. What did you call them?
105:03Those little cherub cheeks? When you saw them at the combine, you had to make cheeks.
105:08Very cherubic. Looks like your baby, Johnny. A little bit.
105:11Yes. For the viewers, I just had my first baby.
105:14A baby girl named Jane. Very cute. Very sweet.
105:17She's just crying a little bit. So I'm going to have to make sure my wife's not quartz ringer or something.
105:24Yeah. Kudos to Megan for manning the parenting duty.
105:27Holding it down. 30 round. Producing the baby and babysitting the baby while we hammer out this 30 round draft.
105:34Yeah. Couldn't do without her. I was going to say Carson Beck, dude.
105:38Okay. Ollie Gordon, Rasheen Ali, Emmanuel Wilson, Sione Vaki.
105:41Dude, Emmanuel Wilson? Do you like Emmanuel? Enough here.
105:44Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think we go with Emmanuel Wilson as well.
105:49Yeah. I think it's – yeah. I mean, Price seems – I don't know if you did watch Hard Knocks.
105:55I didn't watch Hard Knocks, but I heard he looked – he was looking good.
106:00So I don't know. Definitely fading Wilson more than I was already.
106:04But what is it? Round 28, 27? Right, right, right.
106:07Holani's gone. Yeah, Holani's going to get touches. He's going to probably be their third down bag.
106:13Yeah. I just – I see it kind of like a LeQuint Allen thing with George Holani.
106:19That's my comp. It's like these guys are going to play maybe 30, 40% of the snap but get like 2% of the opportunities.
106:27You know what I mean? I mean like – Yeah.
106:30Mm-hmm. Yeah, I can see that. He can pick up a blitz assignment.
106:34Nobody's arguing that. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Wilson looked good in sparing.
106:39Dude, the one game that Jacobs missed, 20-plus carries, 100 yards, two tutties.
106:43He's not a dog, but he's not a complete fade.
106:47I think he actually – I thought he looked good.
106:50I watched his film and I was like, man, I thought he looked good last year.
106:55The knock on Wilson is his ability to pass protect and to kind of do everything that the coaches ask from him.
107:03But, again, I still think you've got to take a shot on some upside plays here.
107:08Yeah, and then it's a world where Charbonnet doesn't come back 100% this year.
107:13Yeah, 100%. And or that he's not active for the first couple of weeks.
107:17And then if anything does happen to Jerry Price, who is already battling a little something.
107:22They say he got dinged up and should be fine, but there goes Chris Bell.
107:27Yeah, I mean, I do feel like people are listening, but I wasn't expecting him to make it that far back.
107:34Once you get Douglas and Kevin – because that is Kevin Coleman, right?
107:39No, that was Keon Coleman. I just think it puts Bell in the minds of dropters.
107:44Justin Fields, interesting. If we want – Coy Franklin, still on the board, dude.
107:49Yeah, that's gross though. So – You're out on him?
107:52I've always been out on Franklin. Where did – Sneaky productive, dude.
107:56Led all two second-year wide receivers last year in their perceptions.
107:59He also had the worst QBR. Oh, when targeted?
108:02When targeted, like past 20 yards. Where did Brian go, by the way?
108:07I missed that. I'm trying to get Brian these days if he falls at all.
108:12Who? Oh, Pat Brian. He went much, much earlier.
108:15Yeah, no, I know. I'm just curious where he's going now.
108:18Okay, we are on the board. I think I'm going to – I think I'm going to take that Ollie Gordon pick
108:26that I've been teasing for a few rounds. I do think there's some upside there.
108:31I think in a scenario – There's definitely – I like him better than Jalen Wright.
108:36I don't think he got a fair shake last year.
108:39The way they're talking about riding H – Etienne, Devon, I don't know.
108:43H-Chan. They're all H-Chan, dude. Everyone is H-Chan. Sorry.
108:46Okay, sorry. Everybody's asking H-Chan. There's no variance. It's crazy.
108:50No, Ollie Gordon's good. It's a good pick. I was hearing some psychos talking about Hollywood Brown if you have Hurts, which we don't.
108:58And I only bring that up because he went one pick before us.
109:02But I think there's some validity to that. Yeah.
109:05For those guys who are still waiting to do most of their best ball drafts, if you get Hurts as one of
109:12your quarterbacks to be looking at Hollywood Brown late.
109:15I've got a couple guys that I get a little bit excited about at this point.
109:21I'll bring them up to you in a second.
109:24You in it all for Taequann Thornton in best ball?
109:27Absolutely not, brother. Somebody's got to catch – somebody's got to catch balls.
109:31He won't shut up about it. He's just – somebody's got to catch these passes, man.
109:36Somebody's got to. And he's – you know, he's not good, but he will – he'll go like two catches for 70 and a touchdown every so often.
109:46Should we just go ultimate upside play and draft Anthony Richardson?
109:49There's a world, dude. It's not this one. I just threw up in my mouth a little.
109:55It's not this world, brother. I don't even know.
109:58Do they just cut him? I don't know what they do with him.
110:02If you can take – who's the – Riley Leonard, bro.
110:06Would not be a terrible pick. Right. Just looking through these ADPs.
110:10What was Leonard's line in week 18 last year?
110:13It was good, right? I don't know. I got some buddies who I play fantasy with that they were like trading seconds for him in the offseason.
110:22I was like, what are we doing, dude? Not a second.
110:25Come on. Shout out Laquan Jones posting a picture of trading a second.
110:30That's nasty. For Riley Leonard. Riley Leonard. Let's see.
110:33Yeah, week 18. 270 yards, two tutties through the air and a Russian touchdown.
110:37Yeah, Russian touchdown. Yeah, dude. I mean, Daniel Jones, like not an Iron Man.
110:42Ooh, I like Oscar Delp too actually, but more for – Talk to me about – Oh, fuck.
110:48I wanted to go Io Manor. I'm not going to lie with you, dude.
110:52Yes. Is he there? He's gone. Tough. So I've got in my queue Vaki, Ali, DK, Tez Johnson becomes interesting.
110:59Bryce Lance is interesting. Brennan Thompson is still there.
111:02Bryce Lance is – oh, Vele's gone. Okay, yeah, I like Bryce Lance.
111:06What about Brennan Thompson? Is that too much exposure to the Chargers at that point?
111:11Yeah, I'd say bet on one of those guys, him and Harris.
111:15I don't know. I'm going to go with Lance, dude.
111:19I think based on the fact that Tyson's not staying healthy.
111:22Already with the hamstring. A lot of it, not only does he have the concussion concerns, but there's the – I know he just got paid.
111:31A lot of it, you know, if he stays healthy, is the guy in there.
111:36I like Bryce Lance. Sneaky, sneaky pick there. Well, I think like – dude, sorry to – I'm glad that these teams
111:43are anonymized, but like Kyle Williams is literally wide receiver six on that depth chart, right?
111:48So it's just sometimes you get that immediate validation where you get a guy like Lance who could be a field stretcher
111:56as kind of a bit of like the unknown as opposed to like a guy like Williams who is apparently like not
112:03practicing at all with the first team. Yeah. Yeah.
112:06What are you thinking about Io Manor? I was hearing he's going to – Dude, I liked him.
112:12He was my next pick, no doubt. I honestly think we maybe should have gone for him ahead of Gordon.
112:18Just in hindsight, it's always 20-20. Yeah. No, but we got to smash these like long shot running backs, I think, just with our build.
112:27So speaking of long shot running backs, we've got Ali, Vahki, Mafa is still on the board.
112:32We took four of them. I don't know if we need another one.
112:37I was just saying instead of Io Manor, I don't mind getting Gordon there.
112:41We've already got 10 wide receivers. True. True. The build is a three QBs, nine running backs, 10 wide receivers, three tight ends.
112:49You don't want four QBs? I'm not out on it, but let's see.
112:53We've got Deshaun Watson, J.J. McCarthy, Flacco, Mariota. Do you take Watson already having Sanders?
112:58Huh? Do you take Watson already having Sanders? No, dude.
113:01I think I'm just – I think I'm so out on Watson, man.
113:06Okay. Just because it's like I just don't see him even plugging into the line.
113:11And there he goes anyways, right? Honestly, I think the guy that's most interesting just based on our build, to your point
113:18of kind of taking a bet here, is Tez Johnson.
113:21Like this incredibly productive in college, had some splashes as a rookie.
113:25I get it's a clouded wide receiver room, but I think he's an injury away from meaningful snaps.
113:31Yeah. And in an offense that likes to pass, he's got some familiarity in.
113:36So we'll see if he comes back around to us, but I think that's who I'm queuing up next.
113:42Yes, I like that. I like where you had that.
113:45What tight ends are there just out of curiosity?
113:48Oh, Raridon's gone, dude. Yeah. He went two rounds ago.
113:52Dude, Zach Hurts is the sneakiest pick left on the board.
113:55Where is he at? He's still on the board.
113:58He's like bottom of the ADP. He's probably going to go undrafted.
114:02No, I mean my fault, dog, but what team does he play on?
114:07He's not signed. Oh, he's undrafted. But I mean, that's the type of guy who when they sign, they get drafted.
114:14You know what I mean? If he signs midseason.
114:17Yeah, but I think if the boy falls, I think Tez.
114:20Are we totally out on Caleb Johnson? No. No, dude.
114:23I'm not, but. I think that's who my last pick is.
114:27If he comes back around. In basketball, dude. I'm not drafting him anywhere else.
114:32Yeah, but I mean, I've got, I've got Dowdle.
114:35So it's 30 rounds. Normally I don't like like.
114:38In best ball, drafting your backup and banking on that.
114:41But it's also somewhat interesting, right? We've already had nine other running backs.
114:45How much do you like Rashad Smith, by the way?
114:49Because you mentioned him as being a guy. He just went.
114:52Yeah. I mean, again, full point PPR, wide receiver background.
114:56Yeah. Showed some flashes. I think it's everything I was telling you about Emmitt Johnson, like that rookie year.
115:02They kind of just dog these guys. But now he's got a chance to kind of come back and make a step forward in the second year.
115:11So I like him. Yeah. I would have maybe taken him over Tez.
115:15But because I just, I like Kenneth Walker as a player.
115:19I always thought he's one of the best pure runners.
115:22But he doesn't catch the ball. He doesn't pass block well.
115:26That's people wonder why they were so heavy in committee.
115:29And it was, they drafted Sharps because they knew Kenneth Walker was not good at those things.
115:35He's good at running the ball. And that's pretty much it.
115:38And he doesn't stay healthy. So I'm really looking for upside on that offense.
115:43I think total, just like overall, as I've been kind of hammering that throughout this draft about, I don't think we even
115:50took one chief, but there's got to be somewhere.
115:53I'm trying to see the rough part, dude, that Caleb Johnson is getting burned right now in the game, dude.
116:00In the fourth quarter, after Lou Nichols, after Travis Homer, after Eli Heidenreich.
116:04How did Heidenreich look? Five carries, 12 yards. He's actually out there right now.
116:09So it might have been Johnson rotated in earlier or something.
116:12Yeah. What other receivers? Chimiri Dike is kind of the one that stands out.
116:17We got Iyuk still on the board. Tyreek Hill.
116:20Jalen Knoll, somewhat interesting, but they're talking about rotating.
116:23No, not Knoll. What about Tyreek? You like that?
116:26I mean. Let's do it, dude. Why not? What the hell, bro?
116:30I mean, that's crazy. I would have thought he would have been off.
116:34I mean, dude, the thing there again, people are really.
116:37They're listening to the reports like he's he said he had no power in his leg like a couple months ago.
116:44OK, well, maybe should we fade then? I know that I'm totally out on Caleb Johnson.
116:50Yeah. Maybe they were arresting him. Yeah, really did miss.
116:53That pick was dude. Holy cow. I took him over Luther Burden in one of my dynasty leagues, man.
116:59And I and I liked Burden. I mean, huh?
117:02I can't even blame you. Yeah. I mean, nobody, everybody in everybody was at the time.
117:08It was like the thing to do. Yeah. OK, we're on the board.
117:12I got queued up Hill. Rashin Ali. Sione Vaki.
117:15Dude, how bad do you want to go Ali?
117:18I feel like you want to go Ali really badly.
117:21I'm going to go Ali, dude. Now you're just making me.
117:25Marvin Mims is still on the board. What do you think about that?
117:29Who? Marvin Mims. Yeah. Let's do it, dude. We're going Marvin Mims.
117:33Yeah, let's get a Bronco. We have. Yeah, we have Harvey.
117:37Let's get another Bronco. There we go. We're done.
117:40We're done. Dude, no, not even not even breaking a sweat.
117:43Let's do. Let's do another one. Let's do. Yeah, I know.
117:47Under two hours. Not bad. I thought it was going to be a little worse than that in terms of like 30.
117:5430 rounds, 50 seconds around or per pick. Like in theory, it could take like four hours, but I've seen all of these are finishing under two hours.
118:03So I just took a nice long pee before my, before we streamed, I got some in me and I was ready to rock.
118:11Shout out to Matt Kelly. One more time, dude.
118:14That dude is the ultimate endurance athlete of podcasting.
118:17Like we, we spent an hour prepping for the show the other day.
118:22Then we recorded for two hours and I, I had to like stand up and stretch before we recorded.
118:28I had to drink some water. I had to go pee.
118:32I was drinking water during the stream. Three and a half hours.
118:35I was with this guy. Total didn't stand up once.
118:39Didn't drink water once. He is the Donald Trump of podcasting.
118:42Like, cause I don't know if you've ever heard about that.
118:46Like Donald Trump will do the same stuff. He'll go on Rogan for like six straight hours.
118:52And Rogan's like, dude, do you need some water?
118:55Like you need, you know, do you need a bathroom break?
118:58He's like, no, I'm good. I actually got to go on a plane right now.
119:03You know, like to my next event. I could say something about that, but I'm going to, I'm going to choose not to.
119:11Yeah. Let's not get political. Let's not get political.
119:14There's a reason why he doesn't have to, you know, stand up to go to the bathroom.
119:19Even though that's all it's the diapers, diapers, my God.
119:23Um, it has to be said anyway. Uh, yeah, dude, I'm liking the draft.
119:27How do you feel about it? I feel good about it.
119:31In an ideal scenario, we would have gotten three kickers and three defenses.
119:35I think to the, to, uh, Michael face point, a bit of a lesson learned there.
119:41Like you just, you kind of have to fly in the face of ADP sometimes and, and take reach for some of those positions.
119:49Um, but I do feel like we probably have, you know, the strongest positional groups in the room in terms of wide receiver, right?
119:57Like anytime that, uh, Brian Thomas is your wide receiver four and Coker's your wide receiver six and yeah.
120:03And like, dude, again, I think Jeremy Bernard could be a sneaky, sneaky productive player in his rookie year.
120:09I like some of the stacks we were able to put together.
120:13We got a double stack with Herbert. We got a double stack with Rogers.
120:18Um, and we've got some contingent upside plays at running back.
120:21You know, if anything happens to James cook, Ty Johnson's already banged up and Ray Davis is showing he can handle the workload.
120:29Corey Krosky merit could very much be a very big value going after Rashad white huge value.
120:35So I, I don't hate it again. I think we're really going to need Colston Loveland to pan out.
120:41Uh, we're going to need the Jaguars to be an absolutely lights out defense and we're going to need to get Falcons
120:48kicker Nick full to kick a lot of field goals.
120:51But I honestly think that's something I've, I've rode the coattails of the, the Falcons kicker and the, uh, Texans.
120:58I was, that was kind of one of the, it went earlier than I expected, but fairbairn were the most slept on
121:05guys, dude kicks in a dome can hit from 50 consistently.
121:09What'd you say? I think fairbairn stopped three ADP right now.
121:13At least in redraft. Yeah. Is he really? Yeah.
121:16He's close. I don't think he was on this.
121:19Let's just, now you've got me curious. Let me look at the board and just see.
121:24He went pretty early. So we, yeah, you're right.
121:27Look, uh, yeah. Cause homeboy took, uh, yeah. The Cowboys kicker dude.
121:31Wow. Yeah. That's a bit early, huh? It's early, but it's okay.
121:35Um, but yeah, you're right. Fourth kicker off the board.
121:38Um, Jason Myers, Seahawks, sneaky, good kicker. So, um, well, thanks guys for watching.
121:43We hope you enjoyed it. And, uh, yeah, man, it could be fun if the Steelers are a sneaky, good offense.
121:50If the Browns can put something together and score some points and Judkins and, uh, Sanders ends up being a starting quarterback.
121:57Again, there's a lot of swings for the fences here.
122:00Darren Waller, um, some upside plays with Bryce Lance.
122:03Marvin Mims is actually listed as, as a starter on the, on the depth chart.
122:08So I think getting him as the very last pick is interesting as well as a guy who we all know can bust a long one.
122:17Right. Uh, and the beauty of this format is obviously if he scores a kick return touchdown or, or a pump return touchdown, that's six points too.
122:26So, um, talk to me, close us out. Like what, what are your overall thoughts?
122:31What would you have done differently? What did you like?
122:34Um, I still regret, I think my biggest regret is not getting Donald.
122:38Not that I love the player, not that I love him, but he did, he went like right after we picked there.
122:45I can't remember what round it was. And you were saying to do it.
122:50Yeah. I was saying just cause Jason, the stack six round or six point passing touchdown.
122:55Um, it was by far our weakest position in that and maybe not by far, but it was a weak spot of our team.
123:03Um, I would say getting Rogers to pair with, uh, some of those late guys, uh, Bernard.
123:09And, um, if those, if that little tree becomes more valuable than it is right now for us during the season, I think we'll, we'll be pretty good.
123:18We'll be pretty safe and okay. Little, um, new to a lot of this basketball stuff.
123:24So good to see like where kickers go, how certain team or certain owners are approaching that strategy of, of hammering like three defenses in a row.
123:32Um, so yeah, I learned a lot. I had a lot of fun.
123:37Um, got a lot on the line though. So hopefully, uh, hopefully we hit on some of these guys room.
123:43Yeah, dude, I'll keep you close throughout the season.
123:46I'll let you know how this team pans out.
123:49I think to your point, our sore spots are going to be those, those soft positions as kickers in the defense, not
123:57as worried about quarterback, not worried about tight end.
124:00I do think we went a little heavy with 12 wide receivers.
124:04Um, but again, you, you know, you got to start three, you got to plug in a flex.
124:10Um, and I did like that. We went for some guys who can, who can score some splash plays.
124:16So, uh, thanks for watching everybody. Leave some comments after the show.
124:20We'll be sure to get to those. Um, and good luck winning your basketball drafts and your fantasy leagues.
124:26Good luck, everybody. Good luck, everybody. Good luck, everybody.
124:29Good luck, everybody. Good luck, everybody.
