0:00What is good? NFFC Live! We are here live stream, me and podcast Pete.
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0:08You saw us draft last week from the 111 Pete.
0:11Funny enough, just a few hours ago this lobby filled in what pick do you think we got Pete?
0:17We got the same pick that we got last week so we're gonna be able to see last week changes to this
0:24week and see if anything's really changed with recent news in the NFL and updates but the 11 spots great and again
0:31it is a third round reversal too. Yeah, I'm very excited about it.
0:36I want to get that early value on a pick in round three and I love to take advantage of the board
0:43like who ends up making a mistake and also people who are sharp if there's sharp picks along the way that just
0:50determines and makes uniform part of what I'm gonna do for my pick.
0:54So you follow ADP the value that falls to you.
0:57It's a little bit out of your control but in a way if mistakes get made or value pockets occur then as to the value of your pick.
1:06Benefit of the person in the back half of the draft.
1:10Now last week when you were in the driver's seat and you were clicking the buttons, what was your feeling thought sentiment as the first round was unfolding?
1:19Yeah, we talked about it right and Gibbs, Jameer Gibbs goes off the board at the 101 but we talked about it right.
1:27This is a start three wide receiver format. This is a one point per reception format as well and it's a third round reversal, right?
1:35So, you know, typically in drafts this year I have leaned heavily on running back early like many have but in a
1:42situation where you gotta start three wide receivers I tend to lean a little bit more on securing wide receivers early and
1:49then being able to kind of give yourself a little bit of freedom.
1:53Last week we went James Cook in the first slot at 111 and then we went three wide receivers straight right after.
2:00We felt pretty good about it. It's 30 rounds by the way.
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2:22In terms of the payouts, right? There's, there's 12 teams in the draft.
2:26Like I said, 30 rounds, third round reversal. It pays the top three in each league, including 800 to first place.
2:33And then you have a $30,000 grand prize. So total points for all teams over 17 weeks you're drafting and then you're pretty much done.
2:41And the prizes are based on 230 leagues, which is 2,760 teams.
2:45Teams, again, accumulate those points from weeks one through 17.
2:48So a lot of fun, a lot of ways to win some money here.
2:53And we love drafting with NFFC. Jeremiah, let's get to the board here, right?
2:57We've seen pretty much a split here. Four wide receivers, four running backs up the board.
3:02You're coming up here in just a few picks.
3:05It's team 11 in the 11 hole. What are your thoughts so far?
3:10Who are you hoping falls to you at 11 with what's on the board?
3:14Well, I will say, Pete, if there's running backs on the board, is there any disinclination where it's okay, where you think
3:21I can double tap wide receiver and we play a little bit of chicken with the zero running back game?
3:28Absolutely. I don't mind getting unique. I think going zero RB early is interesting.
3:32Again, it's a three wide receiver start and we're talking best ball, right?
3:36So we don't have to, you know, add or drop or make any lineup changes, right?
3:42And if you are to go that route, then you're really just looking to maybe handcuff some really, really elite running backs
3:49and hope for some injuries down the way to maybe fill in those gaps.
3:53But zero RB, it's not my style, but I don't mind giving it a shot.
3:58I mean, depending on who's there at wide receiver, if you're in love with it.
4:03So I'm sitting here thinking last week we were in these shoes.
4:07You had James Cook fall to you. I'm going to go for differentiation here.
4:11We have different running backs and you know what?
4:14This is going to be a shout out to you.
4:18Homage. It is going. Did we go chase Brown last week?
4:21We didn't go chase Brown. I'm going to go chase Brown.
4:25I'm going to take a stand. He's a player that you want.
4:29Pete, you've been hyping them up. There's this clump of running backs and it'll fall to you every time and you'll pick it every time.
4:37And in this instance, we have a little bit of diversification.
4:40Pete, you and I are going to do multiple of these drafts.
4:44So part of the thinking is we've already got a draft in hand where James Cook has been selected in round one.
4:51I'm going to run the thought experiment, push it to the 112 where they have to decide, do they want James Cook at the top of the queue?
5:00Do they want Justin Jefferson at the top of the queue?
5:04And I am thinking of going very contrarian here for a player that will not come back to me.
5:10Can you think of a receiver who will not come back to me, Pete?
5:15Oh, man. I'm going to say Malik Neighbors or A.J.
5:18Brown. Those are the two guys that I would be thinking that you might be considering not coming back to.
5:24Because A.J. Brown's really been pushing up into drafts.
5:27You know, he's kind of like that early to mid round two.
5:31And now Malik Neighbors is starting to kind of push up as well.
5:35All right. So the player that I have in mind, Pete, is Emeka Abuka.
5:40Is this too crazy or is it a stand where he's not going to come back to me?
5:46What do you think? I think Abuka will come back to you.
5:50But if you're going for direct differentiation, I don't hate it.
5:53All right. That's all I needed. And I took it personally.
5:57I'm going to go with Emeka Abuka. F all you hoes in this draft room because I don't think he comes back to me early round three.
6:06And this is going to be a ripple effect because there's going to be other value that falls to me in round three.
6:13At the third round reversal. But I don't think I'll be able to get the multiple players in that pocket.
6:19So I think I'm doing a little bit of an inception thing here.
6:24And we shall see. I'm all about some Justin Jefferson who's still on the board recovering, having a great season.
6:30A.J. Brown, as we spoke to, that's pretty chalk.
6:33So I'm going to go a little bit of a differentiated build.
6:37And I force this person to finally take James Cook.
6:40They go JT and James Cook. Going back to my picks, I mentioned to you, Pete, hey, I'm going to go maybe wide receiver, wide receiver here.
6:49And you said, hey, we could try it. But I like the fact of you come away with a running back.
6:56You come away with a receiver. It's two running back.
6:59It's three receivers. I love it, man. So I love that we went one and one.
7:04Yeah, I do too. I don't hate it, right?
7:07I like Igbuka. I think in these, you have to understand that when we draft so many teams, you're going for differentiation,
7:14especially if you're trying to cash in pretty big.
7:17Last year, I did it with Christian McCaffrey in the Flex 6 draft on Fast Draft, right?
7:23And I ended up with the number three ranked team at the end of the season.
7:28And I was taking McCaffrey very, very early in drafts, early on in the process.
7:33You know, and then his kind of ADP fluctuated, was in the second round.
7:37Sometimes I would still draft him early on in the first just because teams weren't doing it.
7:43And because the ADP was scrambled around and was going to change, I ended up making moves like that.
7:49And it ended up paying off for me. I do want to note about Chase Brown since we did talk about him a little bit.
7:57There was some reports today from Charlie Clifford of NBC5 that Brown has actually been taking some reps out wide at practice.
8:04So, I mean, I have enlisted for 90 targets this year, Jeremiah.
8:08I feel pretty confident and comfortable about that. I think that is what I expect, right?
8:13Not a ton has changed in Cincinnati with the offense.
8:16Switching to Emeka Abuka, right? Do you have any concerns with the other pass catchers around him, right?
8:22Chris Godwin coming back, right? We know he's a target hog.
8:26Jalen McMillan has looked really good when healthy. Ted Hurst looks like he's going to fit in very well at this X receiver role.
8:34And then you still have Tez Johnson, who's kind of a wild card.
8:38You have a very capable running back in Kenneth Gainwell who can catch passes in addition to that.
8:44What are your thoughts when it comes to Agbuka and just all the target competition that he has?
8:49And how do you see him kind of, I guess, overcoming that and being able to pay off at that kind of price?
8:57Well, essentially, I see him and we've done another show with yourself, Wyatt and me, where I said I'm calling my shot.
9:04And we did round four ADP at the time.
9:07Agbuka is a little bit higher here in ADP now where he's a round one player next year.
9:13So I see him as a round one player.
9:16And we saw a highlight today. Ted Hurst, absolutely balling out.
9:19You love to see it for him because you had Agbuka, Jalen McMillan, who are out.
9:24Chris Godwin all had a maintenance day. So it was good to see Ted Hurst ball out.
9:30I can't sit there and play the Fear Street game narrative.
9:34I just have to bet like I'm right. And I'm hearing other sharper gamers.
9:38Like when I hear Theo Gremminger talking about Mecca of Uka, like we had that show.
9:43And then I, oh shit, I just got sniped so good on Malik Neighbors.
9:48Hold that up. Great pick by that person. I was going to go for Malik Neighbors.
9:53Now, should I go Brees Hall, Zay Flowers or George Pickens?
9:57What do you like? I like Pickens a lot.
9:59I prefer Pickens. I have him ranked as a top 22 wide receiver, just player in terms of points per game.
10:06So I don't mind getting a slight discount here at 26 for him.
10:10Beautiful. You love to see it. And you can tell a narrative that while you're disappointed that I got sniped on Malik Neighbors.
10:18What a sharp board. You love to see it because they're probably like, man, this MF went out and took Emeka and Uka.
10:25So I better get somebody like Malik Neighbors. So shout out to Team 12 there.
10:30I've seen. Yeah, I'm a little. I'm a little.
10:33Team 12, though. I'm curious what your thoughts are on the Drake London pick at the 1-2 turn.
10:39I'm not crazy about London this year at that kind of price tag.
10:43I'm not crazy about that. Would you take London that high ever in drafts for you?
10:48Or are you kind of like me where you're a little bit standoffish at his price tag?
10:54Well, the patch of maybe Ashton Janty, sometimes Chase Brown, all through Saquon Barkley, all those running backs who go at the
11:01clump of late round one, early round two. It's very difficult to push and throw in Drake London.
11:07So sometimes unless you land dead into the middle of round two, you're not always getting Drake London.
11:13So I appreciate and respect kind of the ripple effect of what Team 12 did with getting Drake London.
11:19And in my opinion, Malik Neighbors, that's a round one player.
11:22So they have three round one players in their mind.
11:26But getting Malik Neighbors in round three, absolute value.
11:29The cope that I'm going to say to myself is I've seen other drafters in this format in NFFCP go and get
11:36Malik Neighbors in round four in just later parts of the draft where he should go.
11:41So the price is creeping up. So maybe they don't have the differentiation versus the field, the bargain bin discount.
11:47But had he fell to me, I would have felt amazing and told you the exact same narrative.
11:53I got three round one players in Brown, Abuka and Malik Neighbors.
11:57But so be it. It is George Pickens. Yeah, fair enough.
12:01Flowers goes off the board here at the mid third round.
12:04Devonta Smith goes just a spot ahead of him.
12:07Smith's dealing with that hamstring injury. So we'll see if that ends up affecting him.
12:12And, you know, he's been out of practice the last few days.
12:16Uh, I'm, I'm high on flowers this year. I have flowers ahead of Smith.
12:20Uh, if it wasn't going to be George Pickens, I would have taken Zay Flowers if Pickens went off the board, uh, in front of us as well.
12:29I still, of course, would have taken Neighbors. I mean, we took Neighbors at the, at the one, two turn at the two, two last week.
12:38Uh, actually, no, wait a minute. I think we took Neighbors at the three.
12:42Yeah, we took Neighbors at the, yeah. Neighbors fell to us at the three Oh two.
12:48Um, which was, was, was pretty sweet. Uh, but yeah, I mean, running back still not going super heavy here though.
12:54Javante, I'm a fan of Javante. I don't know that I would have taken him this high, uh, in this format, uh, with who's on the board.
13:03Why don't you tell us a little bit about who is left on the board, uh, at some of these respective positions.
13:10So you still have Josh Allen. The first quarterback has not gone out Ted Arroa McMillan and Garrett Wilson at the receiver
13:17position, lad McConkey at the running back position. Kyron Josh Jacobs, Travis Etienne.
13:22You also have Jalen Waddle, Luther Byrd and Terry McLaurin.
13:25It'll be interesting to see what receivers come back to us.
13:28Pete, it might be in that clump of Jamison Williams, Devante Adams, Mike Evans.
13:33So it'll be interesting to see who falls DJ more.
13:36What's your stance on somebody like DJ more? If he comes back to me, is he somebody that I should gravitate towards
13:43or is that something I should be more tied to somebody like Josh Allen, which probably won't happen at this stage of the draft for me?
13:52Yeah. I mean, if Allen were to fall that, uh, that far back to you, I feel like you kind of have
13:59to, you kind of have to take him. Um, so I would, I would certainly be fine with taking Allen and obviously he goes right there.
14:07I didn't expect him to fall that far. I do want to note though, there's a couple of listeners in that are playing with us.
14:15So we appreciate that. Uh, Michael's in the house.
14:18Michael, let us know what spot you're drafting in, man.
14:22Uh, he said third round reversal is a long wait.
14:25Glad to hear, uh, boys. Yep. Definitely. Uh, I liked the third round reversal format though, Jeremiah.
14:30I think it's, it's nice. It creates some balance.
14:33Uh, and we've liked it too. I, I, I prefer being at the back end of the first round.
14:39If I'm not going to be in the first one, two or three spots.
14:44Um, I want to be right at the back.
14:47Uh, I don't want to be stuck in the middle in, in, in, in even non third round reversal formats.
14:53I just really prefer the ends on both sides this year.
14:57Well, the beautiful thing about that is you get two opportunities where something falls to you at the one 11, the position
15:04that we're in, and then something falls to you in the value in early round three.
15:09So you have opportunity for the board to present value to you twice.
15:13And I think if you're sharp on that, it can present just an excellent play for you.
15:19Uh, so, so far chase Brown and Mecca, Buka, George Pickens, I don't feel pressure to go running back or receiver, but
15:26the beauty is I feel like I can come away with one of each in this pocket of the draft.
15:33I don't necessarily feel pressure on the quarterback front.
15:35I don't think there's a squeeze yet. We only have one through almost four rounds.
15:40Yeah. Kyron Williams goes off the board here, uh, at the, uh, at the four, four Oh five spot.
15:47Uh, Kyron's kind of been slipping a little bit.
15:49Now I'm not upset about it. Uh, you know, I'm looking to hear at my rankings and Kyron Williams, I have ranked at 43.
15:57Uh, he's the 32 and ADP over the last few weeks.
16:01So, uh, you're talking about getting him here, Jeremiah, he goes off the board, uh, in the forties, uh, 41, that feels
16:08like a much more palatable price tag. Again, I haven't ranked as my 43rd ranked player.
16:13So I actually wouldn't have minded taking Kyron if he came back to us, but I doubt he was going to come
16:20all the way back down to 47. Uh, you're sitting here with two wide receivers.
16:25Do you see anybody or, you know, obviously we assume that there's a chance that there are people drafting with us, you know, in the live stream.
16:34So don't want to give too much out. Um, but you know, what are your thoughts on what's left?
16:40Tell us again, who are some of the running backs that are available?
16:44Let's name a couple. Well, there's one player that goes Terry McLaurin.
16:48You've got players who are in consideration. It's Luther Burden as Jamison Williams, uh, Bucky Irving, Quinchon Judkins, who are here at
16:55the top of the board, David Montgomery. Um, and then there was a consideration if I could get the stack with Terry
17:02McLaurin for Jane Daniels, but that seems to have sailed.
17:06So in about three picks now, I think it's just going to be a positional allotment of those skilled position players.
17:12I don't feel temptation to dive into the tight end bin.
17:16We see Josh Jacobs go. So I'm two picks away.
17:19Do you think I should go anywhere towards a tight end?
17:23Tyler Warren is on the board, but I just kind of think we can continue to mine value.
17:29Yeah, I think he continued to swing for, for some value unless as a player, uh, that you really, really do like.
17:36Um, I, I, uh, you know, Josh Jacobs is interesting.
17:39I have Josh Jacobs as, you know, as a top 25, 26 players.
17:43So, um, I don't know why his price tag is still so low.
17:47The market doesn't want to come up on him, Jeremiah.
17:51He's going off the board here at 45. Uh, so that's interesting.
17:55Uh, but yeah, you're up here in two spots.
17:57I would continue to keep playing for value. Josh Jacobs is a great value though.
18:02Bucky Irving is interested. Jamison Williams goes off the board right in front of you.
18:07So we'll see who you pick as you're making that pick.
18:11Um, but I do want to talk about Bucky Irving.
18:14Once you're done making this pick, just walk us through what you're looking at here with 40 seconds on the clock and,
18:21uh, and who you're going to go with. Well, it's funny enough.
18:25I like getting some Bucky Irving. I think we are just, it's a value that's going to go slipping through people's hands.
18:32And it's a value that you need to take at this part of the draft.
18:37And I don't mind going with some Bucky Irving granted the person at the one 12 could be listening to us.
18:44So I'm going to let you talk about Bucky Irving while I click him and I'll see about the wraparound pick.
18:51Yeah. Bucky Irving is a guy that I have had some concerns about, but I do want to, I do want to move him up in my rankings.
19:00I had him at 65, uh, but through some reports, right.
19:03He's practicing in full. Um, and it sounds like they're working in a lot of, uh, Bucky and gain well on the field at the same time.
19:12Um, now I still have some concerns with Bucky because of, you know, the, the, uh, you know, the possibility of being vultured at the goal line.
19:21Plus his, his, it kind of reminds me a little bit of Bayshall Tootin in a way where Bayshall Tootin's got to
19:28deal with Chris Rodriguez vulturing touchdown at the goal line, AKA Sean Tucker.
19:32Right. And then Kenneth gain well is kind of, you know, better than that.
19:37Like, you know, uh, uh, uh, Lequit Allen type, right.
19:40Who's going to also take some touches in the receiving game, but I don't know.
19:45Bucky Irving is also a much better talent in my opinion, and we've seen him do it.
19:50So, uh, I think it's at this point, Bucky's ADP, uh, is still kind of falling and it's becoming where he's really a value.
19:58Now, BTJ and Marvin Harrison go off the board right after you on the turn.
20:03Uh, so you're sitting here, you know, you got chase Brown, Amika Agbuka, Pickens, Bucky, um, you know, what are your, what
20:10are your thinking here at the 50th pick overall?
20:13So in my mind, I've got two backs. I want to go with a receiver at this point.
20:19It's Luther Burden versus Parker Washington. I want to come away with Parker Washington.
20:23I kind of feel like the person gave me a gift going BTJ there.
20:28I thought at the double tap, they could have gone Parker Washington and I'm not going to ignore the signal.
20:34I think he can end up being the number one wide receiver in this offense.
20:39And this is a player who is ascending. I've heard people talk about, Hey, remember, you know, they were describing basically Antonio
20:46Brown, the ascension that Antonio Brown had. And I know shout out to the pod father.
20:51He's all talking about, Hey, this is Jerry Rice here with Parker Washington.
20:56And with Luther Burden, do you want some bears?
20:59You want some pieces, but between Roma Dunes, a Luther Burden, Colson Loveland, I can see third in the pecking order for
21:06Burden and it wouldn't be a problem, but it wouldn't be maybe the ceiling.
21:10So, and there he goes very next pick. So hat tip to that person at the one 10, but I'm going to go Parker Washington.
21:18I think one, he wasn't going to come back to me, Pete.
21:22Now I've got a three, two stack on receivers.
21:25And I was talking to Shev last night. We were doing a mock where he got in round six.
21:31He was able to get Parker Washington. This, you have to pay up just a little bit round six.
21:37He got Parker Washington. I thought, Hey, the rest of your team, that's a glue pick.
21:43So to me, Parker Washington is a glue pick where if he ascends up in ADP, he's really elevating this team and the squad that we're putting together.
21:52Yeah. And I, I do like having the players you have here specifically in this, this combination, right?
21:58You have a Buka pickings Parker. You have the ability to, you know, really get a quarterback to match up with them
22:05pretty easily and, and some good quarterbacks, right? You have a chance of saying, all right, you know, if you miss out
22:12on some of these guys, you can take Baker and stack Buka with Bucky with Baker, or you take your shot on
22:19Trevor Lawrence with Parker and maybe grab Bretton strange later.
22:22Maybe even like a late pick on Travis Hunter, if you wanted to chase some upside on a cheap pick.
22:29And then you obviously have George pickings with Dak, right?
22:32And you can also go that way and maybe build him up with, with Ferguson.
22:37And in these kinds of formats, right? We're looking for ways to kind of create avenues for us, right?
22:43Like, you know, it's kind of like the old saying, right?
22:46The more keys you have, the more doors that you can open, right?
22:51In life. And same here with best ball and same here in this format, right?
22:56The more keys you have, the more lineups and stacks you can build.
23:00And you've kind of set yourself up for the ability to go a couple of different directions, depending on how the board falls to you.
23:08And I love it. And you see team three, I got to think they're going to go Joe Burrow, either this pick or the wraparound.
23:16They've got Jamar Chase, T Higgins round one and round three, respectively.
23:20And of course, they also have an out for options.
23:23Talk about unlocking keys. They have an option for somebody like Bo Nix with Jalen Waddle.
23:28So I'll be interested to see on this five, six turn, if they force Burrow or, you know, on the quarterback side,
23:35we still have Lamar Jackson out there. But in ADP, Joe Burrow is just a little bit ahead of Lamar.
23:42Let's talk about that, Pete. Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow.
23:45Why would Joe Burrow be more wanted, desirable in this format?
23:48It's every 20 yards, you get a point. So that's five points for every 100 passing yards versus four in a traditional 25 yard league.
23:56And then the Konami code, it's six point passing touchdown.
24:00And it equalizes a little bit. So I think for the audience, Pete, that's why Joe Burrow is a little bit ahead in ADP.
24:07And the rushing Konami, while it's good, it's not as advantageous as in some other leagues.
24:13Yeah. And you're seeing a lot of quarterbacks being pushed down.
24:16I mean, we got a great value on Lamar.
24:19You know, last time we drafted right now, it's still only Josh Allen.
24:23And it's it's sometimes you just see a run happen, right?
24:27Where eventually the dam breaks and you're going to see three, four of these quarterbacks go.
24:32It's going to be Lamar. It's going to be Daniels.
24:35It's going to be Burrow, maybe a guy like Drake May.
24:39You know, we we saw Drake May second quarterback off the board.
24:43And then we saw Jalen Hurts go to that same team in the next round.
24:48And that was like, you know, that was like round five and six last week.
24:53So I'm expecting quarterbacks to come here. But you make a good point, right?
24:57Like the six points for passing touchdowns really kind of evens out the rushing upside for quarterbacks.
25:03And when you have that, you know, in such a flat year with quarterbacks, where there's not a ton of differentiation because there's just so much opportunity.
25:11You look at Matthew Stafford last year was a top quarterback.
25:15You look at Drake May came out of nowhere, was a good quarter was a top quarterback.
25:20Bo Nix, Trevor, Trevor Lawrence was a top five quarterback in points per game.
25:25Brock Purdy was up there top five points per game.
25:28So like you saw a lot of quarterbacks that were cheap and they ended up paying off.
25:34So I love the idea of just like letting the board fall to you.
25:38And if there's some value at quarterback, you scoop it up.
25:42But it'll be interesting. Burrow does go off the board.
25:45You did mention it, right? Is it going to be next later to stack with Waddle or do they just go Burrow,
25:52you know, with T Higgins and Chase? They opted for the stack of the three players.
25:57And then we see the quarterback run happen immediately after I'm saying this, right?
26:02You get Joe Burrow, then Jardarian Price and Drake May, Lamar Jackson.
26:06Right. That's that's kind of that's that's kind of what we were talking about and expecting.
26:11So the Drake May owner gets A.J. Brown to stack with them.
26:15And you have Lamar Jackson owner who gets A.
26:18Flowers to stack with him. So kind of unfolding how we expect it.
26:22And some players who are at the top of the queue, Jordan Tyson is somebody I had queued up.
26:28Not that he would have made it to me per se, but not not so many picks away.
26:34We got Tyler Warren, Jaden Daniels in the queue, R.J.
26:37Harvey, Trevor Lawrence for stacking. Makai Lemon. Dak Prescott's also out there for stacking as well.
26:42Rico Dowdle, Blake Corum. Any of those names appealing to you, Pete?
26:46Yeah, I mean, the guy that I keep talking about has been Rico for me.
26:51I was very high on Blake Corum earlier this year and we've talked about it.
26:56I still think from a dynasty perspective, he's a he's he's going to be a guy that we we expect to rise.
27:03But I'm not really in on his price tag too much, J.
27:07I mean, what's his current ADP right now for Blake Corum in this format?
27:12Well, let's see. It goes Rico Dowdle back to back 94 to 95 on Blake Corum.
27:17Do you like Corum more or less? There for me for a second, but Corum's price is dropping slightly.
27:23So I'm not I'm not upset at like pick 90 ish in that area.
27:27I still prefer Rico. Obviously, Corum has that upside if Kyron gets hurt.
27:32But I still would prefer Rico. I have Rico ranked inside my top 60 for the running back for, you know, total all players.
27:39So I'm a big fan of Rico. You might be able to get him on the way back in round eight.
27:46Jonathan Brooks is interesting too. He's really been rising a lot in these formats.
27:51I don't know that you're going to get Rico or Jonathan Brooks after the turn here.
27:56So if you're looking for running back, I would go that way.
28:00You could also maybe go with a Trevor Lawrence stack with Parker if you want to go up and get him.
28:07But I don't know that I would reach because, again, you have you have three avenues at the quarterback position that you can really just kind of wait.
28:16So there's a lot you can do here. But tell us what do you I mean, you got the players in front of you.
28:23What do you think? Yep. I'm leaning towards Makai Lemon right here.
28:27I'm going to take him and just boost the receiving room.
28:31And like you said, I don't have pressure at the quarterback.
28:34This person could take a stacked Trevor Lawrence with BTJ.
28:38And Trevor Lawrence, if he comes back to me, Pete, do you think I should take him or do you think I should just wait down the board?
28:47Because I have opportunity for, you know, pick in.
28:50So I got Baker later I could get. Well, I mean, the good news is that a lot of these players in
28:57front of you now have taken quarterbacks. Right. So, you know, you're kind of in a point where you might be able to wait a little bit.
29:06The BTJ owners behind you. So unless somebody wants an unstacked Trevor, I would rather just wait because you have options.
29:12One thing, Jonathan Brooks goes right after your pick of Makai Lemon as we as we said it.
29:18So that's that's kind of funny that happened. Then you have Ibuka and Lemon both on by same time week 10.
29:25Something to note there as we start to build this out.
29:29Kind of consider. But yeah, I would wait on Lawrence.
29:32But if you want him, go get him. All right.
29:35So I went with Jordan Addison. My thought being I've got five receivers.
29:39I'm stacking the deck. Well, of I'm of mine like you.
29:43I want to get running back stabs as we continue, especially on that back half of the draft beyond round 15.
29:50I want to go for the run on receivers before it runs out.
29:54So what do you think of that, Pete? With I go Makai Lemon, I go Jordan Addison, and I open up an option.
30:01Look, I lose Dak Prescott. There could be a quarterback run here.
30:05But for a stacking partner, I may. I open the door and a key to the possibility of somebody like a Kyler Murray in a bounce back season.
30:14Yeah, no, I think that's good. That's a good way to look at it, too.
30:19Weirdly enough, Jalen Hurts also is a possibility, right?
30:22I mean, you could you could potentially get him.
30:25I don't expect Hurts to come back to you, but we'll see how that plays out.
30:30So, yeah, I think you're in a good spot, though.
30:33Addison there, not a bad call to go there and continue to kind of build up this wide receiver room.
30:40Yeah, and Lemon, Devonta, I think Lemon's missing practice more from a precaution standpoint because Devonta's now down, too.
30:46So we'll have to obviously continue to monitor that.
30:49But so far, so good. I like what you've got going on.
30:53And I think you can, again, maybe get Trevor Lawrence on the way back.
30:57And if not, you can shoot for Baker. Maybe go with a Baker-Kyler kind of stack as well.
31:03Yeah, I like where your head's at. I think that would be just a way to cap the stacks and take what the board gives me.
31:12There goes Trevor Lawrence. Not married to the outcome of having him as my quarterback one, but don't hate it either.
31:18It is interesting, though, that this person goes. Who do you think that they could be pairing with?
31:24Would it be a Brenton Strange later that opens up their level?
31:28Because there's no stacking power with that team, with Team 6, with Trevor Lawrence.
31:33But they do have Lamar and Zay Flower. So hat tip to them.
31:37Getting Round 6 Lamar Jackson, I think, is just a great value.
31:41It is. And I did want to make a note.
31:44You know, once I saw that, I was a little confused.
31:48I mean, maybe they go Jacoby Myers, right, and you can get, like, cheap stacks later.
31:53But not what I would have done. But that's one of those things where it's a luxury pick, and you start taking two quarterbacks this high.
32:01I don't really love the process. But everybody's got a different way of how they're doing things.
32:07It's just not how I would have done it.
32:10But I do want to say we'll take a quick break, and then we'll come back.
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33:19And you love it. We're back here. I'm at the 111, Pete.
33:23I got Chase Brown. Emeka Abuka at the wraparound.
33:25Still a live stack with Baker Mayfield. It's out there.
33:29George Pickens. Dak Prescott did go. Bucky Irving. Again, some Tampa share.
33:33But he's my second running back. I feel really great about my two running backs.
33:37I don't feel pressure. Parker Washington. I think is at a tremendous value in round five.
33:43Makai Lemon getting a lot of great reports. I feel like he's being hidden, but he can't be hidden in Philadelphia.
33:49I think he's just going to stick out like a sore thumb in the fact that he's going to ball out this year.
33:57Then Jordan Addison. I predict to Pete he's going to get his first thousand yard receiving season.
34:02I have an open stack there with Kyler Murray.
34:05Jalen Hurts goes. So that's one less cross off for my stack share.
34:10But then again, all these other teams have quarterbacks.
34:12I think it should allow for me to get some form of a stack with what I have here.
34:19What do you think? Yeah, I think so, too.
34:22Hurts is an interesting pick. The team one feels like a team that's kind of just taking players they like and not really going super hard for stacks.
34:31Again, stacks are not everything, right? I don't love to reach for stacks, Jeremiah.
34:35But I do know that and we know that they are important to a degree when you're shooting for upside in those later weeks.
34:43The nice thing is you're also not playing on some other sites where you're put in a pod.
34:49And so, you know, it's it is cumulative, you know, the full 17 weeks.
34:53So that does help. Right. But in terms of what we have left, every team besides the guy behind you has a quarterback now.
35:01So you got to assume that quarterback is going to probably start drying up a little bit.
35:07But also there's a chance that some of these teams say, OK, well, you know, I've got my guy.
35:13I can now wait a little bit on on the quarterback position.
35:17So, you know, you could maybe take Baker, but I can't really see anybody taking Baker, you know, before your pick or after.
35:24So you might be able to squeeze him in at that time.
35:28But I don't know how much you want to push it and take that risk.
35:33So what are you thinking? Is Baker a guy that you want to take?
35:37I mean, it is somewhat of a reach at pick 95 because of his ADP.
35:42But in a situation like this where you're running a little bit out of options here with stacks, with some of these
35:49quarterbacks off the board, you might want to just secure your guy and go get him.
35:55Well, it's a matter of I call it a 20 gap.
35:58Essentially, when you're about 20 picks away and you're on one end of the board, you have just a Rolodex.
36:05If you scroll of all the players who they might not come back to you, like when I went Emeka Obuka, he
36:12was not going to come back to me. So in my mind, I was like, hey, F this.
36:18I'm going to go get him. So part of that mentality could be you're not reaching as far as you think you are in ADP.
36:26If on that 20 gap, when you come back, you have a risk that that player isn't going to come back to you.
36:33So I'm inclined if I need to quote unquote reach at either end, depending on where you are.
36:39I think that's part of what you have to do.
36:42Sometimes if you're in the middle of the draft, I feel like you have to almost pick BPA, just best player available
36:49and structure your team as much as you can.
36:52Because you're so far away from controlling the board that you have to kind of take what's there.
36:58Whereas if you double tap at the ends, you can get some leverage and just kind of slide the slot machine just
37:05a little bit further to your advantage. Where some people might say it could be a reach, but you get a little
37:12bit of control of your team build. Yeah, honestly, too, I don't really worry too much about reaching in these drafts.
37:19Like ADP matters somewhat, right, Jeremiah? If you're like sitting here saying, well, maybe I can wait and squeeze a little bit more time.
37:27But at the end of the day, even if you jump up and go grab a guy 15, 20 spots ahead of
37:34ADP, if you're looking at the board and you're nervous and you really like a guy and you think you should value
37:41it higher than where he's at, I think you just go ahead and take him.
37:46Chris Godwin goes off the board to team seven there, which is kind of a bummer because it could have been nice, right?
37:53If you did go that Baker route, you could have maybe stacked and took both of those guys at the next two picks.
38:01So a little bit of a bummer. I do got to say, man, Sam Laporta slipping back here this far, kind of a head scratcher.
38:09I really, really don't understand the market on where Sam Laporta is going.
38:13Pick 92 on the board, Jeremiah. I have him ranked inside my top five for tight ends.
38:19I have him ranked, you know, well 20 spots ahead of this.
38:23So it's a great value there for team number eight.
38:26You're up here at pick 11. I do want to give a shout out to the chat while you're making your pick
38:33and then tell us what your thoughts are. Fantasy Savvy in the chat.
38:37Steve, what's up, man? He said good stuff. Pete, how many defenses are you grabbing in these?
38:43Typically two. Typically two, right, Jeremiah? I mean, we could go three, but I mean, we don't try to push it unless
38:50it's just like a really, really nice defense that maybe you're mixing in like a defense with a great playoff schedule.
38:57Jeremiah, what are you thinking? Oh, so you do go Baker Mayfield.
39:01Okay, so we do do that. So we lock him in.
39:04And then team 12, I mean, they're the only team now left on the board without a quarterback.
39:10And they go, they get their first tight end in Jake Ferguson.
39:14So I like that play there. Here's a question.
39:17And depending on who gets. Okay, cool. They went dark.
39:20Normally I go dark before, but because I have some stack share and there's that passing element.
39:25Baker Mayfield isn't so bad or sacrilegious to go ahead of dark who has the rushing advantage.
39:31Team build wise. Do I lean and go Casey Concepcion?
39:34Or should I go Kyler Murray stack with Jordan Addison?
39:37And I'm pressure off at the quarterback position. I don't know.
39:41I don't know. You could go Kyler. Are there any other stacks?
39:45I mean, I'm looking at your team here. Do you ever look at maybe a tight end that you like later on
39:52and you say to yourself, maybe I can just get a quick, easy, cheap stack there, like a Rodgers and Fry and Ruth later on kind of thing?
40:01I mean, you don't want that to be a main stack, Jeremiah.
40:05But I don't know. Well, there you go. You take Kyler.
40:09And that's fine. Kyler, crazy enough. I mean, Kyler Murray's been a top 10 fantasy quarterback in points per game every year that he's been a starter.
40:17So are you worried that he's not going to be a starter for the full season?
40:22I mean, I know they're really making it a true camp battle, allegedly, but I just don't see it for JJ.
40:29Part of this game theory is I'm betting like I'm right.
40:33And instead of going a six wide receiver, which Concepcion, I absolutely love him.
40:37And I could have added him into the Shador Watson kind of stack share.
40:42And that was an option for us last week when you went out and got Casey Concepcion.
40:47But I'm going to bet like I'm right. So like another wide receiver in Casey Concepcion at this point in round nine is almost like betting against myself.
40:57So the fact that I have Addison, I've got a unique stack share to a degree.
41:02It's not like the most uncommon or common stack out there.
41:05But I'd say it's a little bit more in the middle where it's somewhat unique and not going to be the chalk.
41:12Let's just say. Addison Murray is a fun one.
41:15And I got Ibuka, Baker Mayfield. Now I feel so much pressure off me.
41:20If I go inclined towards a third quarterback, Pete, I'm trying to recall if we had three quarterbacks last week.
41:26But if I go third quarterback, it might be even like an upside player like a Mac Jones.
41:32It might be a Jalen Milrow. It could be a late Deshaun Watson, Anthony Richardson.
41:37It doesn't have to be somebody who's going to automatically fill.
41:41So I have faith in round eight and round nine with Mayfield and Murray.
41:45And another thing to speak to why I went with both quarterbacks and just to set it is the fact that in
41:52kind of all formats, we see this run between round six and round 10 where quarterbacks just go.
41:58People look at all the green and yellow in the top five rounds, Pete.
42:03There's so much of it. People get comfortable with their teams and they start backstacking it with the quarterback.
42:09So we see the quarterback start to run. So that's where I feel very good aligning.
42:14I'm getting out of people's way. I'm not getting in the way of somebody who's got Terry McLaurin.
42:20You know, I didn't do that with Jane Daniels.
42:23I didn't get in the way of the Jamar Chase T Higgins person and just go with a naked Joe Burrow.
42:30So part of that is theory of I'm getting out of my way, getting what I want.
42:35And of course, they're happy to get what they need.
42:38So sometimes it's optimal or suboptimal. Like how do you play it, Pete?
42:42Do you ever look at other teams and say, hey, we're getting out of each other's way and I'm happy to go
42:50down my lane and see who can speed up the fastest?
42:53Yeah, sometimes. Sometimes it's it really depends on the feel for everything.
42:57It's almost like like playing nice in a way, so to speak.
43:01I do want to mention Blake Corum goes off the board.
43:05We talked about Rico Dowdle before. And so Rico still not off the board, right?
43:09We're coming up on 106 gain. Well, Blake Corum.
43:12Um, so part of that is if you've been paying attention, uh, you know, Rico was splitting first team reps with Jalen
43:19Warren and then Jalen Warren just got, uh, listed first on the depth chart over Rico Dowdle, which I'm not overly concerned.
43:27I mean, he's the incumbent Jeremiah, uh, but he is splitting reps.
43:30I've heard multiple reports kind of mixed between, you know, Jalen's taken most of the first team reps.
43:36Oh, it's Rico, uh, back and forth. So, I mean, getting a massive discount on Rico, uh, for, for, you know, where he was going.
43:44I mean, we're talking about round 10, uh, you know, coming up on 107, 108 and Rico's still on the board.
43:51Uh, it's a, it's a really nice value, Jeremiah.
43:54What do you, what do you think about Rico?
43:57Has your mind changed on him? I mean, I know I was very high on him when we last talked about him,
44:04but has your thoughts changed on him at all with the recent buzz around camp and Rico goes off the board at two.
44:12I love that to team two. Yeah. I'm all about Rico Dowdle this year.
44:16So I think he's a tremendous pick, tremendous value.
44:19I think he gets 1250 to 1300 yards. There goes JK Dobbins.
44:23Great pick Tony, the tiger at the one-on-one RJ Harvey.
44:26Funny enough, these Denver Broncos backs go, you know, way soon.
44:30So you love to see it there. Skill set archetype different, but I think value in the Broncos backfield is huge.
44:37Look, it's like a Denver Broncos show right now.
44:39Bo Nix got three Broncos in a row. Tyler shock breaks the streak.
44:44You love to see it. It is crazy. Harvey has typically gone ahead of JK Dobbins and he goes behind JK here in round 10 too.
44:52So Harvey, another guy that may be slipping a little bit in public sentiment right now, because typically Harvey J has been
44:59going around like the nineties, you know, somewhere in that mid to late nineties.
45:04There were times he was going in the early eighties in this off season.
45:08Sometimes I think he was going in the seventies at one point.
45:12So he's kind of fallen a little bit here without much real news.
45:16And it's not like Dobbins kind of shot up the board, Jeremiah, either.
45:21Dobbins goes one spot ahead of him. And that's typically, this is the range that JK Dobbins has gone.
45:27JK has actually gone a little bit higher than this in many such cases.
45:31So it's kind of interesting to see Harvey fall this far and Dobbins go ahead of him and it not be much
45:38of a, an inverse where Dobbins goes, you know, gets pushed up the board at all.
45:44So that one's kind of interesting to me there too.
45:47You have Matthew gold, Matthew golden, you have Jordan Mason quarterback run did happen, Jeremiah.
45:52So it's a good thing that you did land Kyler and Baker because Brock Purdy, Jared Goff, Bo Nix, Tyler Shuck, all
45:59those guys go off the board and you had no stacking opportunity with your current players.
46:04Uh, you know, with those guys, uh, funny enough to the Sam Laporta owner did skip out on drafting Jared Goff.
46:11They took Purdy instead, which I guess with my Evans, they wanted to stack in that direction.
46:16Hey, you can't blame them there. And Hey, electrical substation be damned Pete.
46:21What do you make of all these 49ers players getting hurt?
46:24Do you buy into the electronic substation? Substation. I do think in some ways I do, uh, you know, George Kittle made
46:31a good point and he said, you know, it's kind of like working out.
46:36You have, you know, these different chambers, red lights, all these things.
46:40And, and you always say like, we're trying to get 1% better.
46:44If that thing that you're going to spend money on as a player gets you 1% better, you know, then you're stacking
46:51up this thing that gets you 1% better. Plus this thing, plus this thing.
46:55And then it starts to kind of snowball. Right.
46:58And it's same thing with the substation where it's like, Hey, even if the substation is giving you, making you 1% worse,
47:05uh, you know, possibly when it comes to like, whatever, you know, people are saying where it kind of breaks down.
47:12Like, uh, I don't know, something in the muscles, uh, you know, then there should be something to be looked at.
47:19Um, now it is crazy. I think I saw a report that said 20 49ers got injured in practice, uh, in just
47:26one day, uh, which is absolutely insane, Jeremiah. Uh, but I'm going to let you take the mic here because you take
47:33another Broncos player, uh, another running back. And, uh, it's Jonah Coleman in the same round that Harvey and Dobbins go off the board.
47:41Yeah, I'm loving this. And funny enough, the guy goes with your Corey cross camera.
47:46I was thinking of your Corey cross merit on the wraparound here because we're getting good buzz about him, but I F all these people.
47:54I want Jonah Coleman on, on so many teams, especially when I don't get JK Dobbins and RJ Harvey.
48:00If JK Dobbins comes back to me, I take him.
48:03He goes, well, now I'm going to take Jonah Coleman.
48:07So I am like magic Johnson, like he, he passing back.
48:10I'm getting these Broncos running backs all day and I'm not even thinking twice about it.
48:15So I'm really excited about this. And the next player, I talked about him a lot and I push him down the board.
48:23I'm going to go with Casey conception. I'm going to push tight end down the board, continue.
48:28And now it's my six wide receiver. I'm drafting hoopers.
48:31I'm drafting ballers. I come away with an upside cuff pick player.
48:35We're in round 10. I don't feel averse to risk here.
48:39I'm good. In a sense there we hear in your Broncos fan, Pete, Sean Payton is talking up Jonah Coleman as one of his biggest surprises.
48:47So I love him and you cannot get me to not come away from a draft anywhere, almost any time without Denver Broncos running back.
48:55And that includes RJ Harvey. Yeah, it's I've heard a lot of reports.
49:00Coleman, I haven't heard too much just from beat reporters of like what they're seeing in terms of like he's been impressive.
49:07I did hear early on in like OTAs and rookie minicamp that, you know, the utilization for Coleman was very bullish in how they were using him.
49:16So that was pretty encouraging. I have heard really nice reports about Harvey.
49:20He's being used as a receiver a ton and he's making a lot of plays in the receiving game.
49:26Interesting note for Harvey. He did injure his shoulder that he had offseason surgery on.
49:31He injured it in camp last year. So he was dealing with it all season.
49:36Dobbins as well. Interesting. He is allegedly just like the chippiest guy at practice.
49:40He's John and everybody. It seems like he's got a chip on his shoulder, which is nothing new for JK Dobbins.
49:47And to your point, right? Running backs get a lot of opportunity in this offense.
49:52You know, it's just a matter of like trying to find the right one, of course.
49:57But at the same time, this is an offensive has thrown the ball to the running back top five with Sean Payton,
50:04you know, in pretty much his entire career. So we know that there will be opportunities for the running backs.
50:11And in a best ball setting, Joe Coleman's a fine pick.
50:14I don't know that I would have taken Coleman that high, but that's also one of these situations where you're just getting your guy.
50:22You don't know if he's going to come back to you, Jay.
50:26Yes. And so I'm totally cool with that. I think the Casey conception pick is a phenomenal pick.
50:32That's the one I really am happy with because I have conception ranked inside my top 100, Jay.
50:38So you're getting him here, you know, inside in like the one twenties, which is really, really incredible value.
50:44I think because of that injury quote unquote, that he sustained and the Denzel Boston hype.
50:49He's kind of maybe, maybe falling a little bit down the board.
50:53Yeah. I love it, man. I'm so excited about Casey conception in 2026.
50:57We're getting highlights every day. It's Denzel Boston. It's Casey conception.
51:01And Hey, I open up the vein opportunity to be at store Sanders or Deshaun Watson.
51:06And Pete, who do you think we were in this position last week?
51:10We took conception somewhere around here. I think it was.
51:13And is it Shador Sanders or is it Deshaun Watson?
51:16I don't know, man. I mean, it's pretty crazy.
51:19It sounds like reports are that, that Shador's looked better or that Sanders.
51:24I mean, that, that Watson has just looked bad.
51:26So it's just making Shador look better. Um, I still prefer should, sorry.
51:31Yeah. I still prefer Watson, uh, just because I think that the investment is still heavy in him.
51:36And I do believe they're going to give him every chance to, to fail, uh, unless Sanders is just going to really,
51:44really have to blow them out of the water and just have a great preseason and in order to get a leg
51:51up or else I think it's just going to be Watson who gets the nod.
51:56Hey, while we're talking, we got 320 people on the stream.
51:59You'd love to see it. We're going to go to a break real quick and we'll come right back.
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53:04All right. Breaking down these teams as we approach my pick in a couple here, Pete, is there anyone on the board?
53:11I know we've been central focus to the team that we've been drafting.
53:16Is there anyone on the board that you'd like to command and highlight where you kind of like their strategy and what they have going on?
53:24Yeah, I happen to I want to focus on team five for a second here.
53:29Team five gets gets Christian McCaffrey in the first round.
53:32They go AJ Brown, Trey McBride, Kyron Williams, Devante Adams.
53:35They get a little bit of a discount on Trey McBride, right?
53:39I mean, he fell all the way towards the late mid third round, which is good value.
53:45I haven't really liked clicking him at his current price tag.
53:48He also gets a discount on Kyron. Again, we talked about Kyron before.
53:53I'm right that 43 goes off the board at 41.
53:56So I think that's a fair value. He also gets Devante Adams, DK Metcalf, Pittman, worthy golden Woody Marks, Chris Rodriguez.
54:03And he sets himself up to pretty much he can go Aaron Rodgers to get a stack with those two Pittsburgh wide
54:10receivers who I think Pittsburgh is still a pretty undervalued, you know, an undervalued offense right now.
54:15And you also have the ability to go with Matthew Stafford, who at pick 140 is still on the board, Jeremiah.
54:22I'm sorry. I don't care. Stacks or no stacks, Jay.
54:25Sam Darnold, Jordan Love, Cam Ward. These guys should not be going ahead of Matthew Stafford regardless of stacks.
54:31So him still being there is a pretty incredible value.
54:35I pick 143. I mean, you have Baker, you have Kyler.
54:38You don't have anybody on the Rams. Would you consider just taking Stafford for the value or just saying, hey, you know what?
54:46I don't have a stack here. I have got two quarterbacks.
54:49Even though the value is there, I'm not really interested in drafting him.
54:54Would you go with him naked and hope to get a back stack later with somebody like Terrence Ferguson or would you
55:01be happy and fine with getting him naked, isolated by himself?
55:04I think he's a rare guy where you could easily still I'd still feel comfortable taking him naked.
55:10The only caveat I would have is with your situation, right?
55:14You have Chase Brown, Bucky and Jonah, right? Like, do you sit here?
55:18Is there a running back or two running backs possibly to double tap and just say, hey, is it running back position drying up?
55:26I can't see your side of it. So I don't know what players are left.
55:30But I would consider that and maybe not get glutton for a quarterback.
55:35But to answer your point in just a vacuum, yeah, I would be totally fine taking Stafford naked and just trying to push for those tight ends.
55:43So here, Podcast Pete, Dallas Cowboys kicker. Do we feel like that team kicker is an advantage here this part of the draft?
55:51Depends on what you think, what's available to you.
55:54I don't think it's a reach to go kicker in this format, especially with such a heavy advantage that Aubrey has.
56:01So I'm good with taking their team kicker if you want to go that route too.
56:06All right, I'm going to break the seal with the strategery for the fact that we have the team defense guru.
56:13I know I don't need the Broncos or the Rams per se as we're going through this draft.
56:18I know you can coach up some maybe a Sonoran Saints or kind of like a middle thing Cincinnati Bengals in some part.
56:26So did you say the Jets have a good schedule as well?
56:30Jets have a decent, have a decent schedule, especially in the playoffs.
56:34Colts are kind of interesting as well. They have a good, a really just soft schedule this year.
56:39And the Saints, the Saints have one of the best schedules overall and their playoff schedule is very, very attractive.
56:46And they don't even go inside the top 10 for defenses.
56:50Now, Pete, leverage at tight end. Tight ends on the board.
56:53We have Mark Andrews, Bretton Strange, who I really like.
56:56TJ Hawkinson is going to be available much later.
56:59So at the top, it's Mandrews, Bretton Strange versus running backs at the top, Algier, Dylan Sampson, Isaiah Pacheco, Emmitt Johnson, Charbonnet.
57:06What would you, which direction would you go? So it's, it's tough.
57:10So you said Pacheco, Charbonnet, and who was the other one?
57:14Tyler Algier. Yeah. I mean, if it's Tyler Algier or Pacheco, I would prefer Pacheco just because I think the upside is higher because of the offense.
57:23Algier is more of a floor play. If you're like, Hey, I want to raise the floor in my room because I
57:30don't really love my, my players that I have.
57:33So that's, that, that's kind of the thinking that I would have.
57:36All right. What I'm going to do is going to be totally off the board.
57:41It's still high in the queue and the ADP.
57:44I'm actually going to go for part of my secondary tertiary build of my team.
57:49Bretton Strange is going to be my first tight end with the thought of I've got Parker Washington in round five.
57:56I don't have a stack with Trevor Lawrence, but my God, Pete, if we get middle of the field open of Bretton
58:03Strange and Parker Washington, if it goes to one, it goes to the other.
58:08I feel like I've got a vessel to one of the best offenses subtly.
58:12And this is something that you can apply in best ball drafts in high stakes drafts.
58:17And even in your leagues, you want to just get a wrap around.
58:22You want to squeeze kind of like a snake that sizes you up, get pieces where it's going to run through as the Jaguars offense thrives.
58:30I've got the pieces coming my way. So I get my first tight end.
58:34I believe in him having a breakout ability. So I'm betting like I'm right.
58:39I'm feeling pressure off right now, Pete. I don't need another quarterback.
58:43I'm pretty really good at running back or sorry, receiver.
58:46The only spot where I need to start taking some shots, I think you would agree, would be at the running back position.
58:54What would you say, you know, taking a look at the health of my team right now?
58:59Yeah, I'm good with Strange, right? It's your first tight end and, you know, he has, you know, top 10 upside, I think, at the tight end position.
59:08So I'm good with that. Just inks a three year deal.
59:12So then we know that they absolutely value him and how they see him.
59:16So I'm good with that. I think running backs, you maybe have to go for a similar strategy of what we did
59:23last time where it's just, hey, we're just going to pound running backs in the mid to late rounds here just to
59:31kind of raise that floor and provide some upside, right?
59:34For some of these guys that maybe get a couple of starts under their belt and maybe have a pop game here
59:41and there just because maybe the starter goes down like a tank Bigsby, right?
59:45Who we've talked about, right? So I think running back has to probably start to become the focus because you don't want to fall behind too much.
59:54You set yourself up great with the wide receivers.
59:57You stack with the quarterbacks and I like being kind of, you're not stacking with the quarterback, but at the same time,
60:04if you believe in the Jacksonville offense being top five, right?
60:08And Strange and Parker both being a part of that in the middle of the field, then I'm okay with kind of
60:15just trying to get as much of that offense as you can.
60:19And I love it. And looking at quarterbacks who are still on the board, it's Bryce Young, Jacoby Brissett, Fernando Mendoza, Rogers, Geno Smith, Tua Tagovailoa.
60:27Any interest in any of those down the board?
60:30No, not really at this point. Rogers, low ceiling quarterback, no stack really there unless he wanted to go with a, you
60:37know, a Rogers and a Friar Muth kind of stack.
60:41Bryce Young, not super excited about him. Both his tackles are injured at the moment.
60:45And, you know, I think it's really, I think it's really maybe shooting for Fernando Mendoza, trying to maybe etch out a
60:53cheap build there if you wanted to go that route.
60:56You know, cause it's, it's cheap. It's easy. You can go get Tucker.
61:00You know, you can go get the kid that they just drafted as well.
61:05Who's been kind of in those, those three wide receiver sets.
61:08I think he's the kid out of LSU. Um, and then obviously like you have Naylor.
61:13So that might be the route too. And, and, and then maybe using Deshaun as like a fallback.
61:19So some receivers on the board got Trey Harris, Omar Cooper, Jalen Naylor, Trey Tucker, as you had mentioned for the, the Raiders run out.
61:27And then talk to me about Isaac Tesla, Ryan Flournoy.
61:30We're hearing that Isaac Tesla cannot separate in camp.
61:33Is that something that people should be worried about trying to take a late dart on somebody like Isaac Tesla?
61:40Is that more bullish for Jameson Williams, who people thought maybe Tesla could push into that.
61:45I think it's, it's showing to be fiction now.
61:48And I think you got to be all in on, of course, I'm on Ross St.
61:53Brown, who I think you can take above, uh, JSN and then Jameson Williams.
61:58I think it's bullish for the top two and Sam Laporta, to your point, the value pocket.
62:03Yeah, I think it's bullish for, for those top guys.
62:06And at the same time, Tesla's not really somebody who I'm looking at and thinking, Hey, this is an elite separator.
62:13It's really about the upside in the red zone, right?
62:16Um, what he's going to provide. I mean, he scored, I think he scored at least four touchdowns last year.
62:23It might've been six as a rookie on a little amount of passes.
62:27Uh, they gave up a lot to go get him.
62:30So, um, I think they believe in him. Uh, but just the reports are not something that's going to scare me away.
62:38You did mention Ryan Flournoy. Uh, Flournoy is a guy that I've, I've, I mean, I have so much exposure to him, Jay.
62:45Uh, I'm, I, I think it's very possible. He, he gets to, you know, five, six touchdowns this year, 800 yards, uh,
62:52as the third receiver in that offense for Dallas.
62:55And we know, Jay, if one of those guys go down, Lamb has had a little bit of some bumps and bruises the last few years.
63:03He's missed a little bit of time, right? If one of those guys go down, Flournoy slots in and he's a top 24 wide receiver.
63:12If one of those guys miss time. So, uh, I think he's the best quote unquote handcuff at wide receiver that you can get.
63:19And I think he's going to provide value. Um, you know, even, even when those guys are healthy.
63:25Yeah. Like the rare wide receiver handcuff. And that seems like such an absurd thing to say, but I think it applies,
63:32but I think it's also bearish to the fact that Isaac Tesla is not as much of a wide receiver handcuff as people seem to think.
63:41Um, now speaking of wide receiver handcuffs, how about somebody like a Trey Harris, Pete?
63:46Are you in on him, him versus Quentin Johnson?
63:48What do you make of that breakdown of the Chargers offense?
63:52It sounds like Lab McConkie's got it locked up as the wide receiver one, but is it a QJ who it finally
63:59falls into place for him or is Trey Harris going to push in year two?
64:04I think it's a case of like, I don't want to either, uh, uh, in best ball.
64:10It's interesting. Redraft, not so much. Um, maybe have some exposure to Trey Harris who I don't think will get drafted in redraft formats and managed leagues.
64:18Jay. Um, I don't think he's somebody that I would want to draft because QJ is going to be there.
64:25Uh, but in a best ball format, best ball setting, I'd much rather take chances on Trey Harris than, uh, you know, take chances on QJ.
64:33Um, I've never really been a big fan of Trey Harris and, uh, I'm sorry of QJ.
64:39I think Trey Harris is a better player. Uh, so I would prefer Trey Harris over Quentin Johnson, uh, whose ADP has been very interesting this year.
64:47I mean, he's, he was getting drafted very low and then he all of a sudden is getting drafted inside the top 100.
64:55Um, I think Harris is going to push him for time and, and this is also going to be a slow offense, Jay.
65:02It's going to be a run heavy offense. I think Vlad McConkie is going to feast and be really, really good.
65:09And then it's going to be like kind of spread around with the other wide receivers in the offense.
65:15Uh, and it's going to be a Mar and Hampton just kind of eating up, uh, you know, the, a ton of,
65:22a ton of work, uh, you know, on the ground.
65:26So I prefer Harris. Uh, where, where do you lean there?
65:29Man, I love Trey Harris. Uh, he's somebody who stands out to me so much.
65:34If you just watch him, you can tell the talent is there.
65:38They feature him on some quick hitters last year for a rookie.
65:42And as much as Quentin Johnson, we'd like him to hit.
65:45I just see at some point, Trey Harris delayed, not denied coming through.
65:50And it's just a matter of, this is going to be a printing press offense.
65:55So I would just juxtapose. I think we're out on Isaac Tesla, but Ryan Flournoy versus Trey Harris.
66:00I can't really parse either. I sit there and think high volume passing up to 600 pass attempts in the season with Dak Prescott.
66:08Flournoy would be great. And then I think, Hey, Mike McDaniel is just going to absolutely crush it.
66:14I can't get enough of either one. So how do you determine Flournoy versus Trey Harris?
66:19Yeah, I think Flournoy versus Trey Harris is one of those where if you believe in the talent, but you're willing to
66:26eat the fact that you might not get much work with Harris and it could be complete zero, then it's Harris.
66:33If you're looking for somebody that you're saying, Hey, I know this guy's going to be involved.
66:39I know he's got a carved out role in the offense.
66:42It's Flournoy for me. I think Florida is a really, really good player.
66:46And I think he could be an impact player on a lot of teams in the NFL.
66:52I did want to mention to Jay Jacoby Lane, really, really nice pick for team five there.
66:57Jacoby Lane was a, was a guy that me and you drafted last week.
67:02We drafted him with like the last pick, like one or two picks left.
67:06It might've been our last pick. I'll have to go back and check the board, Jay, but it was right there with
67:14our last like two, three picks at minimum. And he goes here in round 14.
67:18So just shows how much he's getting steamed up a little bit with some of this, these highlights of him with the one hander and camp coaches.
67:27Declan Doyle is talking about him. So interesting to see him all the way pushed up to round 14 here.
67:34Man. Love it. Pete, I'm going to need just a little bit of advice here.
67:39I go to Montclay Bourne. I just think as we scroll down the 20 gapper principle applies and he's not going to come back to me.
67:47So I love him, especially my fourth running back.
67:50Do I go with the two receivers of Trey Harris or Ryan Flournoy?
67:54Or do you think I should go Tyler Algier or Ray Davis?
67:58Do I continue in the running back path? Cause I have receiver so well built.
68:03What should I do? I would go with Algier just because we, I think he, he could score some touchdowns.
68:09Um, I also, you know, I, I think Ray Davis can come back to you.
68:14He's, he's dealing with an ankle injury right now that could push him down a little bit down the board.
68:21So we're trying to be strategic here. If I do really love the floor and I pick, but with the way you're
68:28running back room is structured right now, I think you, I don't think you can get greedy and, and continue to stack
68:35too, too much at wide receiver, but taking Algier and Claiborne now gives you a chance to, uh, you know, take it,
68:42take another two wide receivers if you wanted next round.
68:45Well, I'm getting meat and potatoes for the fact that Tyler Algier, he's taken away red bone share from B.
68:52John Robinson. And we absolutely hate it. Pete who's to say that he can't do the same thing to Jeremiah love.
68:59I'm sorry, B. John and Jeremiah love. They can be adjacent for all we care in this exercise.
69:04Tyler Algiers, if he's able to do it to B.
69:08John, he can do it to Jeremiah love. And I, I just don't see how if there's two touchdowns on the ground,
69:15one of them doesn't go to Algier three touchdowns on the ground.
69:19One of them doesn't still go to Tyler Algier and we don't get all the ceiling weeks we want from Jeremiah love.
69:26And then of course I have upside in a cuff, like Tyler Algier is, it's boring.
69:31It's not sexy, but he's a backend RB one high end RB two weekend week out in the event that Jeremiah love gets hurt.
69:39Granted James Connor could do his thing still be on the roster, but there was aggression in how the Cardinals sought him out.
69:46Tyler Algier in free agency. So Pete, how do you feel about the team now that we have set up?
69:53Yeah, I'm feeling all right with it. Um, Claiborne was a nice pick.
69:57I've, I've tried to take Claiborne a decent amount in my draft so far.
70:01Uh, I would say it's interesting too. Uh, we haven't really seen the defense run yet.
70:07Jay, um, people really taking defenses. It's been two defenses, Rams and the Texans.
70:11Uh, so, I mean, you're sitting here around 15.
70:14I don't love taking defense super high, but, um, there's a chance you get an elite defense that falls to your deck down here at 16.
70:23So, uh, round 16, it might be worth, uh, you know, taking a swing at or considering.
70:28Uh, but I do like your team so far.
70:31Tight end is something that we may need to start working on here too.
70:35Mark Andrews goes pretty late, uh, round 13. Uh, that's pretty nuts.
70:39What are the tight ends that are available on the board right now?
70:44Yep. And why don't I read the defenses and then I'll do tight ends.
70:48So defenses to put in the queue if they make it back.
70:52Seahawks, right? Broncos. Patriots. Jaguars. Tell me when to stop.
70:55Eagles. Chargers. Steelers. Vikings. Yeah. I mean, I would, I would say on the way back, Denver, uh, uh, Denver is definitely one of them.
71:03Of course, uh, you mentioned, uh, the, the Rams are off the board.
71:08Texans are off the board. Right. Uh, so yeah.
71:10Seattle. Vikings are one to consider. Um, yeah. Seattle, Denver, Vikings.
71:14Those are the three that I would, I would target.
71:17And if they're both gone, then I, then I would probably wait, uh, and maybe not, not swing on defense.
71:24But those are the three where it's like, if it's more Denver and Seattle than, than the Vikings.
71:30But if those two teams fall to you, then, then I, it's hard not to take them.
71:35All right. Beautiful. And now let's run down the tight end gamut.
71:39Dalton Schultz, AJ Barner, Terrence Ferguson, Greg Dolcich. I like Ferguson and Dulcich.
71:43Gunnar Helm is another one. Uh, Pat Fryermuth. There's actually a lot of vacated targets in this Pittsburgh offense.
71:49And who are we to not think, Hey, Mike McCarthy comes in and things reconnoiter for, and we see the Broncos defense go for somebody like Pat Fryermuth.
71:58And he would just be such a post hype sleeper player getting him in round 16 round 17 would be phenomenal.
72:05So it, that's where it starts to run out on, on starters.
72:09There's Eli Stowers, Jake Tonjes, who could be value.
72:12So you think I should come away with a tight end for this next wraparound?
72:17It depends. It depends who comes back to us because I like Stowers.
72:21We got Stowers really late last, uh, last week and, and Stowers hasn't made a ton of noise in camp that, that
72:28forces us to have to go pick him unless you're really, really bullish on him making a big, big impact.
72:35Flournoy goes off the board here at 16, uh, and Denver right, uh, right behind him.
72:40Uh, and then King Dulcich right after him, who's dealing with an injury, you know, water's wet.
72:45Uh, that's, that's, that's, uh, that's something we've heard a lot with Greg Dulcich in the past.
72:51Uh, but yeah, I mean, tight end you're, uh, you know, you're in a tough spot.
72:56I don't want to, I wouldn't want to reach, I will say Evan Ingram is kind of interesting, Jay, and not somebody
73:03that you have to take now, uh, and, and not somebody to take at all.
73:08But Evan Ingram has been somebody who I've been getting a little bit of exposure to in these really, really deep drafts because Davis Webb, right?
73:17Is the play caller. We talked about last week a little bit, Davis Webb, the play caller Ingram and Davis Webb have a strong connection, strong relationship.
73:25Denver did keep Evan Ingram in last year. It sounds like Evan Ingram had to kind of work on his landmarks and
73:32stuff in the offense based on what Sean Payton said this week about him.
73:37Uh, but it seems like Ingram could, could have some, some value.
73:41Uh, so he's somebody to maybe consider, uh, in the next, like, you know, you know, four or five rounds from now,
73:48if, if we're kind of kicking the tight end can down the road, uh, is maybe somebody to consider Eli Raritan too,
73:55is somebody that I'm, I'm taking snipes at in that offense.
73:59He's making some waves as well. So I have six wide receivers right now.
74:03Any thought to continue into the wide receiver? If somebody like Trey Harris comes to me, Antonio Williams is there.
74:10We have Stefan Diggs who signed with the commanders.
74:13Troy Franklin, Tank Dell are out there. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
74:17Did you just say Stefan Diggs is still there?
74:20No, I'm saying Diggs is with the commander. Sorry.
74:23Turn, turn afraid. Who took Diggs? What round did Diggs go?
74:27Cause I, I think it's important for the listeners to hear that because Diggs, uh, you know, getting signed today.
74:33It's interesting to see where the crooked sentiment is on him.
74:37He goes, he goes in round 10, uh, unstacked Mahomes and Herbert are the quarterbacks.
74:42Okay. Yeah. Round 10 is fair. I think he, I think he probably pushes up into that, that eighties range, uh, is,
74:49is where Diggs makes, makes a lot of sense.
74:52I think you should take Trey Harris. If he comes back to you here, you know, the defenses go off the board.
74:59Um, you like Trey Harris. You keep talking about Trey Harris.
75:02I think you should just take him if you like him.
75:06Yeah. And I'm, I still feel, even though I have front loaded high top, good wide receivers, I think this is such
75:13a great, one of the last layered picks where a guy can ascend up.
75:18We talked about those handcuffs and funny enough, floor annoy, Isaac Tesla, and now Trey Harris go all in round 16.
75:25So I think drafters are of like mind for the defenses that are coming back.
75:29Jack Pete Jaguars, chargers, Vikings, any inclination that I should take one of them if they are on the wraparound back, or
75:37should I continue with somebody like a Ray Davis who's fallen back with an Antonio Williams, a tank Dell, Troy Franklin at the tight end position.
75:45Terrence Ferguson is out here. Dalton Schultz, AJ Barner.
75:48I don't hate the Dalton Schultz play, um, just to help with this tight end room, which strange, I, I, I'm okay waiting on defense here.
75:56I think, you know, I think we can muster up, uh, you know, something there and kind of salvage it since some of the elites go.
76:05And, uh, we can maybe click on some value here, um, at width 194.
76:09All right. We got Dalton Schultz. I'm going to go click, click on him.
76:14I think he's a good layer pick. And again, directionally, if the targets aren't there, he, he and Jake Ferguson were high target hogs last year.
76:22People don't realize how much Dalton Schultz got targeted as a second tight end to just get baseline in round 17.
76:29I'm very happy with that pick. So thanks for the advice there, Pete on this wraparound turn.
76:35I go Trey Harris, Dalton Schultz. So the direction of my team, we get a little bit of chargers exposure.
76:41Then we get just back end, you know, Texans in the passing game.
76:45It's hard to get excited about the Texans passing game because I know you're a little bearish on Nico Collins.
76:52What do you make of Jaden Higgins? All the news that has been out for him.
76:57I think he's very popular and we should look around for the audience, see where he went in this draft.
77:03He goes round 11 to team four. Higgins is.
77:06Higgins is a player that I, I really, really loved in the process when he was a rookie.
77:12I'm starting to come around a little bit on this Texans offense more than where I was a little bit ago.
77:19Reports sound like Stroud's looked really, really good in camp.
77:22I don't, I try not to put too much stock into camp, you know, with reporting and how things go.
77:29Sometimes you just got to trust your gut on what you're hearing.
77:33And it has sounded like the offense has, has looked pretty decent for the Texans.
77:37So I like the Jaden Higgins pick though. He's made some rounds.
77:41He looks like a guy that's going to score, you know, possibly six, seven, eight touchdowns this year.
77:47I do worry with tank Dell coming back into the fold.
77:51I'm not saying that Higgins isn't going to be the number two wide receiver, but what I do worry about a little
77:58bit is just, you know, a low volume passing offense, you know, with you know, a lot of mouths to feed.
78:05What does that mean? And, and Dalton Schultz is, is a guy that I saw almost, if not a hundred targets last year.
78:12So it just, it does worry me a little bit.
78:15I still want to have exposure to Higgins when he falls and get some, get some discounts on him.
78:21That's, that's probably the only times I'm going to be drafting him is just when he falls and I can get a discount, which really sucks.
78:30Cause I love the player. I just, I just don't really love the situation for how it's setting up combined with his cost.
78:37So some players at the top of my queue right now for overall Pete, Emmitt Johnson, Jaguars defense, Seahawks defense, Kamani Vidal.
78:44So there's two running backs in Emmitt Johnson and Vidal chargers defense starting to get clogged up with basically these high upside
78:52running backs got Ray Davis, the Vikings defense. It might be taking me in that direction.
78:57Any of those names stand out to you? Yeah, I still like Ray Davis.
79:01Uh, I, I think we talked about him last week, but a player that if, if he's pushed and thrusted into a
79:08starting role because James Cook misses time, uh, we know he, he can absolutely handle it and he's looked really, really good.
79:16So, um, I, I prefer Ray Davis if we're going to go that route.
79:20Um, you know, maybe, maybe dip back into tight end, go for Terrence Ferguson.
79:25If we're looking for an upside pick, um, I like Terrence Ferguson at pick two 15.
79:30I think it's a good cost. Uh, they're saying that Ferguson might operate almost like their wide receiver three since they're kind of short there.
79:38Um, and he's, he's gotten some good, good drum beats in camp so far as well.
79:43Uh, so those are two guys that I would, I would keep my eye on.
79:48Yeah. I like that. And then Gunnar Helm goes, I wonder your, how much are you clicking on somebody like a Gunnar Helm?
79:55Talk to us like in a redraft, in a dynasty, in a best ball, how would you approach Gunnar Helm?
80:02What's your thought on him? Yeah, I'm not touching Helm.
80:05Uh, he's a streamer for me. He's a guy that not going to waste draft capital on him.
80:11I'm shooting for upside players, uh, especially in redraft in, in, in best ball.
80:15It's, it's a fine pick if you're stacking him, you know, with Cam Ward in this case, this, this drafter doesn't have Cam Ward.
80:23So he's taking him without that stack. But I just think this is an offense bottom five.
80:29Um, there, there, you also still have to worry about the fact that Dayball did bring, uh, bring somebody in at the
80:36tight end position with the giants that, you know, will also get some love and some looks there as well.
80:42Um, I think it's, I think it's Bellinger. I'm not sure.
80:46I'd have to look up if it is. Is it Daniel Bellinger that they brought in?
80:51I'll, I'll have to check that. But either way, I mean, you're dealing with a ton of target competition with Wandale, with
80:58Carnell Tate, um, and a low offense when it comes to scoring touchdowns this year.
81:03I just don't know how much Helm I want, even if I like the player.
81:08Um, so yeah, that, that's kind of where I'm sitting with him.
81:12Are you somebody who's in on Helm this year?
81:15Well, it's funny. I take picks on him, but it's only when he's my second or he's my third tight end.
81:22It's never a, he's my first tight end and I'm going to fully buy into it.
81:27You got Shamir DK. You got Alec A-Man or two, who I think are two layered players who many people are discounting
81:34and not thinking of the expansive nature of how the Titans offense could be in 2026.
81:39They don't see the full ascension. They just see it as peppering some Wandale Robinson with some targets.
81:45And then it's for sure Carnell Tate. He's going to have 160 unadulterated targets.
81:49It won't even matter who's out there. And it's just going to be a one-eyed ass offense.
81:55I think there's going to be a lot more versatility and a lot more meat on the bone for the Titans offense
82:02in year two for Cam Ward in the entirety.
82:05So I think downflow from that effect would be going to help.
82:09But to what you're saying, I wouldn't feel much comfortable in any other format than best ball.
82:14I'm not selecting him in redraft, but no way.
82:17Yeah, I'm not selecting him either. I do want to touch on just from a defense perspective.
82:23So Vikings go, Chargers go, Eagles. I believe it off the board as well.
82:27Right, Jeremiah? Yep. We've got Ravens, Browns, Bears, Packers, Atlanta Falcons.
82:31Any of those? I would go with the Saints.
82:34I would go with the Saints. I'm high on the Saints defense this year.
82:38I think they have a really, really incredible schedule.
82:41I have them in my tier three for defenses.
82:44They're the top of my tier three at eight.
82:47Atlanta's tough. I had Atlanta at nine. They're going to have to get bumped down, unfortunately.
82:52Unfortunately, they just dealt with some injuries too. I think Walker from the Falcons, the pass rusher, Jalen Walker, went down with
82:59an injury and he's out for the season. So he tore his ACL.
83:04I was very excited for the pass rush on the defense, but that's definitely a tough blow there.
83:10So I prefer the Saints with their pretty nice schedule.
83:13So I would say, you know, we don't want to get screwed up and not like we did last week and push defense too far.
83:21So Saints would be my pick. But if you're looking at the ADP and you're saying, hey, I think we could probably wait another two rounds.
83:29Let's take these two picks and try to take a swing at them after.
83:34I think you're good with that too. You see the ADP on your side.
83:38Well, I'll say it probably won't come back. It's going to be one of those 20 gappers where it doesn't align with ADP sharply.
83:46But in the sense of the 20 gap, it's the Saints will not come back to me.
83:52Yeah, that makes sense. And then right now, as we're coming up, I've got Kamani Vidal at the top of the queue.
83:59The Chargers and Jaguars are also, oh, that's team kicker.
84:02Sorry. Let's not get confused here. A little bit of a new format on that front, delineating who the kickers and the defenses are with the color scheme.
84:11But team 11 here. I went down Schultz last round.
84:14We've been pushing. We've talked about it. Okay, I'll just go to you.
84:19We love Ray Davis. Any sense for Kamani Vidal?
84:21Yeah, but Vidal is somebody too that I've gobbled up a lot of shares.
84:26I view them very similar. Vidal is going to have maybe a little bit more standalone upside than Ray Davis would.
84:33But you're taking a handcuff that if the starter goes down, he's going to get most of the early down work and still can catch passes.
84:41So I like Vidal as well, you know, if you're considering him.
84:45This is like the Moneyball meme. Ray Davis. It's, hey, he's a great player, but his only glitch is he can go
84:52off and have great fantasy performances against the New York Jets.
84:56If you look at all his big games that Ray Davis has had, he has been against the New York Jets.
85:03For whatever reason, James Cook happens to be hurt.
85:06Ben, maybe we can just look at the dates where the Bills play the Jets and see what happens there.
85:12It reminds me a lot of Sean Tucker. Sean Tucker is another player who, you know, he's up here in the queue.
85:19He's he's pick one 99. Is he another player to consider?
85:23Or do you think we should go for the New Orleans Saints?
85:27I think you should go with your gut. Go with your gut here.
85:31I've helped you out on a couple here, but I think, I think, I think when you, when you are bringing up
85:38somebody a few times, you clearly want to make the pick.
85:41So just go, just go make your pick. All right.
85:45I'm going to go with the New Orleans Saints bonafide with the defense.
85:49I filled out a spot. I know I'm going to get points printed every single week.
85:54I'm not married to Kamani Vidal. I'm not married to Sean Tucker.
85:58And there's some other running backs who I think we've spoken about before in previous shows and just in general that we like.
86:05There's more cuff backs out there. There's been a run on defense and as a sleeper upside type of play.
86:12I like the New Orleans Saints. Now, Pete, remind me last week when we took the Cowboys as a kicker, were they
86:19the only kicker that we took and were like, hey, we'll take the L on the bye week and then just get
86:26the advantage the rest of the weeks? Yeah, that was, that was what we did.
86:31I still don't mind taking a team kicker, you know, with like even like the last pick.
86:37I don't think there's going to be zero kickers to take at the end.
86:41So it's worth it to just grab a kicker at the very end to, to just, just have a fill in.
86:48We're not going to need them for anything else.
86:51Really? Man. I love it. The Jacksonville Jaguars defense goes off.
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87:57You love it here. NFFC. Check this out. I've done some of these where I wait too long on the defensive defense
88:04and have to end up grabbing two or three horrible defenses and hope for the best so they can go fast.
88:11So that makes me feel much better about going with the Saints here.
88:15There's been a run enough. I feel like Pete, I've gotten positional advantage in other areas, especially the wide receiver position.
88:22I feel very comfortable with my quarterback position. Anything critiquing on this team, how we've gone, even patchworking back the running back position.
88:30I mean, after I've got Chase Brown, Bucky Irving, I buy them.
88:34I click them. I believe in them. I'm betting like I'm right.
88:37That's what you have to do in these tournaments.
88:40Jonah Coleman, DeMond Claiborne, RB34. They're the moonshot upside players.
88:44Tyler Algier, a meat and potatoes kind of player who's going to maybe get those 10 points when you need them on
88:51a week where it's a bye week for Chase Brown or Bucky Irving.
88:55Or they just have a down week and there's injuries, of course.
88:59And then Ray Davis, I have him as just a pure upside type of play.
89:04So how would you critique the team as we're here now in round 20?
89:08Yeah, I think we're there's a lot of risk baked in with the running back position, of course.
89:14You know, while I did mention Bucky and I did mention that, you know, coming up on him a little bit from
89:21where I had him and I think consensus is a little too low on him.
89:26We're relying on him to be our RB2. We're really hoping that Chase Brown, who I feel extremely confident about and clearly
89:33you do as well, we're leaning on Chase Brown to really be that anchor for us, right?
89:39Because, I mean, if Chase Brown is a bust and Bucky Irving does what the market believes and that's really a guy
89:46that's in a timeshare that doesn't hit high, we're going to really, really be in some trouble if, you know, if we
89:53don't get elite play out of these wide receivers.
89:56So that'd be my only hesitations about the team so far.
89:59But that's why we're trying to back up, you know, with some high end handcuffs, right?
90:05So we take Ray Davis, we take Algier who, you know, Algier's not in the best offense, but at the end of
90:12the day, we know he's going to get looks at the goal line.
90:16So that should be helpful, Jeremiah, for us. And then Jonah Coleman, of course, right?
90:21I mean, if J.K. Dobbins goes down, right? Jonah is really more of a handcuff to Dobbins than he is to Harvey
90:28based on their skill sets and the role. So, you know, we're doing the best to kind of backfill that.
90:34I think we got jacked up a little bit and we missed out on some running backs we could have taken to
90:42make the room a little bit better. But overall, I do like everything else.
90:46I mean, Claiborne's very interesting. He plays behind two guys that have had issues stay on the field in terms of Jordan Mason and Aaron Jones.
90:54I have no doubt in my mind Claiborne's going to have a week or two this year where he's just a starter
91:02off of sheer injuries alone, you know, in the season.
91:05So that's kind of my hesitations on where we are.
91:08The receiver room is really, really good. I don't need to tell you that.
91:13And I think the quarterbacks have a lot of upside, right?
91:16I mean, Baker could easily be a top 10 quarterback.
91:19And Kyler, for what it's worth, I mean, there's a world if you told me, hey, Kyler finished his quarterback five on
91:27the year, I wouldn't sit there and tell you that there's no way that happens.
91:31Do I think it's going to happen? No. No, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.
91:37Okay, that one hurts. I was looking at Shador Sanders here to be a nice little stack with Casey Concepcion.
91:43Tough break, tough run out. And that just leaves guys like Michael Penix, Mack Jones, JJ McCarthy, Joe Flacco, Jameis.
91:50So that part is a little bit tough. I might need to get creative with some of my backup quarterbacks.
91:56Pete, any inclination to just go with two quarterbacks?
91:59Or do you think I'd be foolish to not come away with a third at some point?
92:05I mean, I think we can go grab a third at some point, right?
92:09Even if it's a backup, right? I mean, I guess we're looking at, like you said, Mack Jones.
92:15You know, I mean, Cousins, but he's already gone, of course.
92:19And he's going to start most of the year.
92:22So it's really Mendoza, I guess, that's the backup.
92:25Yeah, I would say maybe with one of our last picks, right?
92:28You're kind of filling in those gaps. Like last pick might be a quarterback that's a backup.
92:34And maybe you're filling it in with like a kicker in that bye week.
92:39And I love it. And we've gone with, for the tight end position, Brenton Strange, Dalton Schultz.
92:44I got Eli Stowers on the board. I'm thinking I'm going to click him.
92:49It's the Philadelphia Eagles. It's a good option. It's a good layered player.
92:53And I have full faith that Brenton Strange is really going to pull up for my team.
92:58Dalton Schultz is going to get some of those healthy points.
93:02Eli Stowers can be my upside play. Tons of athleticism, Pete.
93:05To me, it reminds me a lot of Jordan Reed, where he may not be asked to block so much, but middle of the field open.
93:14Another cool thing. And this is cool. I've done this twice now through habit.
93:18You have Parker Washington on this team in round five, Brenton Strange in round 13.
93:23Well, I've also got Eli Stowers here and Makai Lemon.
93:26So I've got some Philadelphia share where I don't have the quarterback.
93:30This is a lot of fun. I didn't even intend to do that.
93:35First time I intended to do that. Now the second time it just works out.
93:39So I've got Philadelphia offense, secondary share, a receiver in Lemon, a tight end in Stowers.
93:45And then the same thing with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
93:48So I have two top five offenses in my mind who, even though I don't have the quarterback driving the bus, I'm the beneficiary so much.
93:56So I feel like that's something that can layer and build up my team.
94:00I do this now in round 20. So I love something like that for a top high-end offense.
94:06What do you think, Pete? Yeah, I like it too.
94:10You know how I am. I was very high on Stowers this year.
94:14So I'm good with the pick. I think the upside is absolutely there.
94:18And you're looking at two pass catchers that could be dealing with injuries already in Smith and Lemon that you're going to
94:25need to use these tight ends if that happens in year or if it lingers.
94:30And Stowers, I think, will be involved. It might not happen early, early on, but he'll be involved.
94:36All right. So I go Ollie Gordon. I just think in this patch, people are going to get too cute.
94:42And I don't mind scrolling down and getting him.
94:45And I think he's the direct cuff to Devon HM.
94:48And he's completely mispriced, Pete. And at this part of the draft, we're in the back third.
94:54I have no issue going with Ollie Gordon, especially with my running back room.
94:58I've got to take some stabs. I've got to take some shots.
95:02There's some other players that I like out there that we've spoken about before.
95:07But when I think of all the running backs out, like right now, OK, here's in the queue.
95:13Emmanuel Wilson, Braylon Allen, James Connor, Trey Benson, LaQuint Allen, Chris Brooks, Malik Davis, Adam Randall.
95:18When I'm picking apart and looking at who can be just a direct handcuff and absolutely have league winning upside, funny enough, it's Ollie Gordon.
95:26So I'm just so thrilled. The types of running backs that I'm getting who are filling out the depth of my running
95:33back room, we can have complete leverage on the field with somebody like Ollie Gordon, DeMond Claiborne, Jonah Coleman, and Ray Davis.
95:40Yeah, I love the Ollie Gordon pick. We talked about him last week.
95:45Not really sure why Jalen Wright goes so far ahead of Ollie Gordon.
95:49It really is confusing to me. He went round 18.
95:52Yeah, I don't really understand it. I would prefer Ollie over right pretty comfortably.
95:56So I don't know why ADP doesn't see it the same.
96:00And I don't know. Not too sure about that.
96:03Parkinson's interesting, by the way. Colby Parkinson goes off the board there.
96:07Ferguson goes way higher because of the upside. Parkinson's eight touchdowns last year.
96:11And he goes this late. So it's a nice value for team five there as well.
96:16Yeah, now it's kind of like get your guy season.
96:20Maybe I inspired. And hey, I go Gordon because you had to scroll down a lot, almost to the point where people
96:27would be like, oh, crap, he's still there in the queue.
96:30That's how far I had to go. And I can see that an element of that for Caleb Douglas and for Cyrus Allen.
96:38Now, last week, Pete, you had clicked on Cyrus Allen.
96:41He's getting all the buzz, running with the ones.
96:44But now we're getting a lot of buzz about Caleb Douglas for the Miami Dolphins.
96:49He was a sleeper for me early in the draft process.
96:52So it is pretty cool to see him here in round 21.
96:56Some of those mainstream sites that might do only 18 rounds in the best ball formats.
97:01We could be getting the ADP where Caleb Douglas is even more mainstream.
97:06But in these deeper streets in the NFFC, he can play to win big prizes, Pete.
97:11He goes in round 21. Fair price, jumping the shark.
97:14Or are you of the mind, Pete? Round 21 to 30, ADP really isn't sorted like we may think.
97:20Yeah, I think that's really what it is. ADP doesn't really matter at this point in the game here.
97:26You're taking guys that you like and that's really it.
97:29I mean, you're 250 players in. You have no clue how people are going to value guys.
97:35Guys, most people I think should just not really care for ADP nearly at this point.
97:40Just go get your guy. There's no reaches this late in the draft.
97:44I will say, Caleb Douglas, interesting player. Just in terms of, you know, no Chris Bell.
97:50Stephon Diggs now gone. He goes to the Commanders.
97:53Deebo Samuel goes to the 49ers. So there's really not like that veteran that's coming in unless it's Keenan Allen that comes
98:00into Miami to kind of help save and raise the floor in this room.
98:04So it really is going to be left to Dulcich, Caleb Douglas, you know, Malik Washington, those kinds of guys.
98:11And somebody's got to catch the football. So it's not a bad pick there.
98:15Cyrus Allen, I love, love the pick though. I will say that I would prefer Cyrus over Caleb just because of the type of the offense.
98:24And just, I don't know, I love Cyrus Allen.
98:27I liked him in the pre-draft process. I wasn't like in love with him.
98:31But I did like him and I do have some shares of him in some dynasty leagues.
98:37But, you know, he ends up being okay after that bang up in practice.
98:41And this is great value, in my opinion, to get Cyrus Allen with all the steam that he's had.
98:47I have him inside my top 200. So to get him here, you know, at the, you know, in the 21st round is really, really nice value.
98:56So a receiver that pops out here is Troy Franklin.
98:59Are you of the mind that he's going to do much of anything?
99:03We get word of a Jalen Waddell injury. Are you concerned about Jalen Waddell, Pete?
99:08And what about the depth of this receiver room for the Broncos?
99:12Yeah, the Broncos receiver room is really tough because I think there's a trade very possible coming.
99:18Um, but if Waddell is now showing possibility he could get hurt, uh, you know, Sutton didn't practice last two weeks, two
99:25days, but they were considered veteran rest days that, you know, you don't usually get two of them.
99:31So that's interesting. Uh, Mims is an all pro returner.
99:34So he's got the most value. He's on an expiring deal.
99:37Franklin has, doesn't have an expiring deal. So, you know, but he doesn't have as much value.
99:43So would they trade him? I don't know. I do think there's a possibility there's a shakeup though.
99:49And somebody does get moved. Um, and Waddell has had issues staying healthy on the field.
99:54I don't really love Troy Franklin. I gotta be honest.
99:57Uh, it's not the pick I would go with.
100:00I'd rather take a chance on, on somebody else.
100:03But, uh, you know, if you're saying, Hey, you know, Waddell's had issues staying healthy, you know, I'm just going to go
100:10take Franklin and take a chance on him. Uh, you know, I, I don't mind it if you're interested in him.
100:17He's just not my, my cup of tea. Yeah.
100:20It's interesting. Like Pat Bryan, if he's not there, I kind of really don't want to dive into the Denver Broncos.
100:27I'm really interested to see what could happen. Trade wins.
100:30You think it would be like a tertiary player, like a Marvin Mims.
100:34You don't think it would be somebody like a Cortland Sutton.
100:38Do you? I don't think it's Sutton. Um, I think Sutton is, is too important to the room.
100:44Uh, I think Sutton is a possibility to look out for next year, uh, with his contract.
100:49I don't think it's going to happen this year though.
100:52Uh, he's just too important, uh, to, to what they do.
100:56I'm so happy Pete, cause we can talk all crap about the six, seventh and eighth, ninth Denver Broncos wide receiver, but
101:03give me somebody who can be the wide receiver too on the Seattle Seahawks.
101:08It is Torrey Horton. If Cooper cup is complete dust, you almost Torrey Horton, before he got hurt, you could almost not buy him off of dynasty rosters.
101:17And when I saw Cyrus Allen go, it kind of triggered to me.
101:21I'm like, okay, Torrey Horton is here and around.
101:24So Horton, here's a who Retzlaff. Here's a Horton.
101:27Cause I got Torrey Horton on my team. Just another layered play receiver.
101:31It's been now five rounds since we went or sorry.
101:34Yeah. Five rounds since we went Trey Harris. So I'm ecstatic to go and get somebody like Torrey Horton.
101:40What do you make of this play this deep at receiver in round 22?
101:45Yeah. Horton is somebody who I've, I've, I've always kind of liked, uh, you know, I think it's extremely impressive when you
101:52have a player with, with his draft capital, you know, getting X responsibilities last year in the Seattle offense.
101:58Uh, it's a thin offense, not a lot of weapons on in, in the room.
102:03Uh, you know, it's really JSN. And then a bunch of guys that are unproven.
102:08I know people are high on AJ Barner this year.
102:11Horton is interesting. If he stays healthy, um, I think he can definitely be a contributor in a big way, uh, for, for Seattle this year.
102:20So I think it's great value there too. All right.
102:23We're, we're not shopping at Walmart. We are shopping at the NFFC.
102:27Speaking of great value. I go with the wraparound pick with Isaiah Davis.
102:31Again, ADP is starting to get thrown out the window.
102:34Get your guy season. It's wild, wild West here.
102:37I'm seeing where he surpassed Braylon Allen and I test can be lie test, but I see Isaiah Davis and he is just electric Pete.
102:45I want him as a cuff to somebody like Brees Hall.
102:49So there's a lot of optionality in this team with how I'm building this running back room.
102:54My God. Okay. Jeremiah love law of large numbers.
102:57We want to do this practice. Ready? Law of large numbers.
103:01Does it stand to reason that one of the following running backs will get hurt Pete.
103:06In addition to, I already have Bucky Irving and chase Brown.
103:09So assume health for me. We're, we're being selfish season.
103:13Assume health for the team. We're putting together. Pete, Bucky Irving and chase Brown.
103:17Does it stand to reason? Okay. Jonah Coleman, JK Dobbins, DeMond Claiborne, Aaron Jones, Jordan Mason, Tyler Algier with Jeremiah love Ray
103:24Davis with James cook, Ollie Gordon with Devon H and Isaiah Davis with Brees Hall.
103:29You have some premier running backs where this would be huge leverage on the field.
103:34And we have stuffed and shoveled like all the gold into the fire, whatever that meme is from duck tales, where they're
103:41just shoveling money into the furnace, but it could be the I thought that was a fairly got pants.
103:47Whatever it is. The point remains. We are stuffing as many tickets as we can in throwing it against the wall.
103:54And I love doing this when I go so light at running back.
103:58I love doing crap like this. And to me, Pete, I know we talked about how we feel about Bucky Irving, but
104:05when I can get him at prices, when you can get him at late RB two prices and all he has to
104:13do is fill my RB two spot. Normally when we would draft Bucky Irving in prior years, he'd be higher in ADP like last year.
104:21So I'm thrilled and ecstatic that I can get him at a value and just let all these other running backs marinate.
104:28Granted, I need to get some standalone value and I need to get printed points.
104:33So there's a degree where early in the season, these running backs may not be hitting like I like, but one running
104:40back that serves versatile as a cuff or two actually that serve as a cuff and flex cuff value parallel will be
104:47Ollie Gordon because I think he's going to get more run than HN rosterers want.
104:52And then Tyler Algier that we covered for the Cardinals.
104:55So I'm elated with how this team is built right now.
104:59I think the only thing right now we go back up, it's Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield, Pete, shy of that.
105:05And I'm still betting pure health on them. I'm feeling very good about this team, especially with Stowers as my third tight end.
105:13I love Breton Strange. So, so Pete, how are you feeling now?
105:17Yeah, I feel good. I, I, now if I'm, if I'm in your spot, I'm looking for, okay, who are the cheap
105:24pieces in this offense, uh, in these offenses for the bucks and for the Vikings that I can add on to the
105:31end of these rosters, just in case like a Tess Johnson, right.
105:35I'm assuming Ted Hearst is gone. Uh, no, Kate Otten's gone.
105:38So for the bucks, it's starting to kind of thin out there.
105:42Um, for the Vikings, you got like a Ty Felton who made a nice one-handed catch.
105:48I don't know if Jawan Jennings is still there.
105:50Um, I gotta imagine he's not there anymore, Jay, but he's gone.
105:54He is. Yeah. I was gonna say, if he is, that would be somebody I would take a chance on.
106:01Um, but unfortunately I don't really see a ton of, of meat left on the bone in those offenses for, for guys to take swings on.
106:09Is there somebody outside of maybe Tess Johnson that you, you think could be a somebody that you would, you would look at?
106:17I think it would be Tess Johnson for the Buccaneers because Jalen McMillan, who has already gone.
106:22Uh, I, I love Jalen McMillan. I had considered taking him around where he went.
106:27So I think past Tess Johnson, there isn't really much left.
106:31Kate Otten has also gone as well. Let me cue you up to on team defenses.
106:36Pete Panthers, Bucs, Raiders, Commanders, Dolphins, Jets, Cardinals. You don't have to say it now.
106:41We can wait until we're on the clock. Are there any defenses there that would be palatable to take here in round 24?
106:48There is, um, there is one defense, but I think we could, I think we can probably still wait on them.
106:55Um, I don't think anybody's going to, going to shoot for them so we can wait.
107:00Um, but I do want to just say, let's take one more quick break.
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108:14Love it. Love it. Now two defenses go off the board.
108:17Buccaneers, commanders. Do you think I should go on the front end defense or back end defense of this wraparound pick?
108:24So tell me what defenses do we have available?
108:27Read them off to me. Just read them all off.
108:30Panthers, Raiders, Dolphins, Jets, Cardinals. That's it. Yep. Okay.
108:33Yeah, I'm thinking we just go grab it. I think we just go grab them.
108:38Okay. Okay. Don't say it. Don't say anything. There's people out there.
108:42And then I have a receiver in mind who I'll go for.
108:46Okay. Now we're up. Is it the New York Jets?
108:49It is. Yeah, I would take the Jets. You know, there's a chance under Aaron Glenn, you know, that it gets better.
108:56But either way, they added some pieces. I think the Jets roster in general is just better.
109:02This year, the offense was so bad that the defense was just put in some really bad spots.
109:07Of course, they didn't have a lot of turnover.
109:10So I get it. But they get the Cardinals to start off in the playoffs, which is nice to have first week of the playoffs.
109:18And then they get the, you know, they get the Patriots and the Vikings, which obviously is not nearly as bullish.
109:25But, you know, I could also see the Vikings just being a train wreck if Kyler isn't good.
109:31And, you know, that wouldn't be good for us, of course, because we have Kyler.
109:36But either way, you get it. Uh-huh. But I do want to shout out, give Michael a shout out.
109:42He's in the draft here. I don't know what team.
109:45Yeah, what team is he? Yeah, we'd love to hear that, Michael, what team you are.
109:51But he said we can cover his team. Yeah, yeah.
109:54We'll cover his team at the end. If you want to tell us, Michael, what team you got.
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110:04You love to see it. NFFC. It's just a great product.
110:08A lot of fun right now. Just I've had so much fun, Pete.
110:12Probably the coolest wrinkle is this kicker and defense angle where you have to account for.
110:17It gives me a little bit of that satisfaction of the redraft itch.
110:21But part of what's happening here is in a deep best ball, you have to kind of do an anticipatory waiver wire.
110:28Like all these pics of me going where I talked about Ray Davis, Ollie Gordon, Torrey Horton, Isaiah Davis.
110:35A lot of these players are going to be, especially on shorter bench redraft teams, waiver wire articles where they're featured.
110:41And with best ball, you have to kind of anticipate when that might happen.
110:46And speaking of waiver wire, here's a player who I think is going to be a waiver wire darling.
110:52And if we believe in the Titans ascension, Pete, I'm going to go another receiver because I have eight receivers, eight running backs.
111:00So I feel a nice balance. I'm going to go with Elk A.
111:04Manor in year two. If we get another ascension, I talked to, I've mentioned it earlier, which mirror DK, Elk A.
111:11Manor just underneath Wondale Robinson and Carnell Tate. I love the idea of this late in a draft.
111:16Somebody like Shamir DK, where if he gives me three, two to three spike weeks in this round, in round 25, that's incredible.
111:24You know, you talk about not taking zeros, but at a certain point you talk about, hey, can we print points?
111:31And I think Elk A. Manor is just another one of those layered players, especially when you get, it could be an injury to Carnell Tate.
111:39And then what happens? You know, Brian Dayball offense.
111:42How would that run? Well, Wondale Robinson gets hurt.
111:45There's going to be a third target. We talked about Gunnar Helm.
111:49So this is another play, too, where I won't want to click, especially in a shallow redraft, in the deep best ball.
111:56I don't have to think about Helm. I don't have to think about Elk A.
112:01Manor. So in one sense, somebody goes Gunnar Helm, team two, which we'll cover.
112:05And over here, I go with Elk A. Manor.
112:08So a lot of fun, the strategy that goes with some of these very layered plays deep on these rosters.
112:15Yeah. By the way, Michael did say he is team number two.
112:19So why don't we take a little bit of a look and see how it turned out.
112:24So he took Bijan, Jeremiah Love, and he did get the discount on Josh Allen, who did fall a little bit there at the end of round three.
112:33He goes Tett McMillan, Roma Dunes, and Quinshawn Judkins.
112:36And then he goes Kyle Pitts, Alec Pierce. He ends up getting that Rico discount and the RJ Harvey discount.
112:43So he really, really lucked out there. He gets Jalen Coker, who I happen to really like this year, Jay.
112:49He gets him in round 12. I think Jalen Coker should be a top 100 player for sure.
112:55So I like it. The only thing I would be a little concerned about is just not enough, a little bit more
113:02risk than I would have wanted at wide receiver in his room.
113:06I do love Tett, of course. I like Rome this year.
113:10Alec Pierce with the ankle. Rome with the target competition.
113:13Tett with the low ceiling offense. And then obviously Coker.
113:16I just worry about it. But he also gets Coker and Tett to stack in Bryce Young's offense, right?
113:22So he does get stacked there as well. What do you think?
113:26So he's guaranteeing the wide receiver one with the Panthers.
113:29Part of the mindset could be, well, you're betting against yourself versus a broader field.
113:34But with so few receivers, you're guaranteeing something, which I think is highly valuable.
113:39We want to bet on Ted Arora McMillan being the guy.
113:42Roma Dunze could absolutely be the player. So you've got two stud wide receivers.
113:47I don't love the Shakir pick. But the running backs that you have are so excellent.
113:52Bijan, Love, Quichon Junkins. And then layering down. Where I went strength in receiver, I want to say team two.
113:58Shout out to you. You went strength in running back.
114:02So it'll be interesting to see how this plays out as this goes on.
114:06One note on the Shakir pick. My question would be, did you go in round 11 to Shakir because you had an easier stack with Josh Allen?
114:15Granted, DJ Moore had gone. I love the Pitts pick.
114:18So a lot of good pieces as you're going through this draft.
114:22So very nice start, especially those first 10 rounds.
114:25But it'll be interesting to see how it plays out with all the running back.
114:30Does running back positional advantage hit? My one knock, I think as you were alluding to, Pete, when you need the three
114:37wide receiver started perpetually, and then you're trying to get a flex, that can be very tough when you don't have enough receivers out there.
114:45Yeah. Being that it's a start three wide receiver, it makes it a little bit tougher.
114:50I don't mind going running back bully. Like I said, I just worry a little bit.
114:55Alec Pierce, though, you get a little bit of a discount on him.
115:00He's been falling in drafts. So he's your wide receiver three.
115:03I just think there's a decent amount of question marks with your top guys, enough to make it a little bit uneasy,
115:10and especially when you have to start three wide receivers would kind of be my takeaway there.
115:16Yeah, I love it. So good stuff here. Some players at the top of the QP.
115:21Funny enough, Brandon Ayuk. Nobody's going to touch him.
115:24Shamir Dike is there. Theo Johnson at tight end.
115:27Mike Gusecki. Keenan Allen, who was unsigned. There could be some upside there.
115:31LaQuint Allen, who you love. So any of those names pop out to you.
115:36Yeah, I like LaQuint Allen. He's definitely somebody. Keenan Allen's interesting, too.
115:40I don't know, Jay. I just don't think that he's going to retire.
115:44I think he's going to sign with somebody maybe when there's a camp injury.
115:48He'll end up signing somewhere. So I don't mind going to Keenan Allen route, but I'm not in love with him where
115:55I'm like, hey, if you prefer somebody else, I think it's totally fine.
116:00Man, love it. So it might end up being...
116:03Oh, there we go. So maybe somebody was listening.
116:05Shout out to you. That's a sharp pick. As sharp as it gets.
116:10Well, that's funny because this drafter also took Kamani Vidal right after we passed on him, too.
116:15So maybe they are listening. Who knows? Not a bad deal.
116:19At this point, I'm going to take, because we're at the top of the board, I'm going to go with Mack Jones as my third quarterback.
116:27And I love the upside, the trade viability that could happen.
116:31Maybe he ends up backdoor stacking with somebody else.
116:34What if Jalen Hurts gets hurt, Mack Jones gets traded, and then I have an ultra backdoor, Makai Lemon stack, and Eli Stowers?
116:41Crazier things can happen. And you saw the viability of how good he was.
116:46I don't mind in these tournaments taking an upside third quarterback, and he is one who just stands out like a sore thumb to me.
116:54Funny enough, Shamir Dike is still on the board.
116:57Keenan Allen, who we spoke to. I'm trying to sit here and thinking, is there any pressure on any position that we
117:04need to apply towards the end here? Maybe some more quarterback, of course, is out there.
117:09What do you think, Pete? No, I think we definitely still need to grab a kicker at the end.
117:15So we'll probably try to save that for our last pick.
117:19Around 30. Yeah, just for the bye. Quarterback, not really.
117:22I mean, Mack Jones is a sharp pick. You know, I don't know how much better you're going to get at quarterback.
117:29There's no reason to press and take another one, in my opinion, unless there's just somebody you really like.
117:35Maybe a Tez Johnson pick. Just off the fact that Tez is, you know, going to be stacked in there.
117:42He's got that upside ability, big play ability. So maybe that's a possible route that you could go.
117:48But it doesn't sound like you like Tez that much.
117:51So, I mean, I'm good with whichever direction. At this point, you need a pulse.
117:56And we've seen Tez Johnson perform. I think it was last year when Emeka Ibuka was kind of on a downward spiral.
118:03And Mike Evans was out. So, my God, in round 27, we were talking about depth chart.
118:08And I have Buccaneers share. I have Emeka Ibuka, who we took a stand on very early.
118:14Baker Mayfield, Bucky Irving. Not able to climb down the ladder on Jalen McMillan.
118:18But to your point, it's a cruel, tough game.
118:21And a lot of players key in and key out.
118:24And look at Jalen Tolbert, round 26. He's clocking in every day to come play and ball out.
118:30And if he gets opportunity, it's just that close in the NFL.
118:34So, all these different players. Skylar Bell in round 22.
118:37You think he's going to be a zero as a rookie.
118:41But what if something happens to DJ Moore? It's just so funny and underrated.
118:46Christian Kirk is another one for the 49ers. Jack Betch, who was buried in year two.
118:51I think Elijah Surratt is a great pick. He has a pulse at this point.
118:56I know Jacoby Lane is the lead. And he's showing out at camp.
119:00But speak to Elijah Surratt. Is there anything that you like about him?
119:04Did you like him, Elijah Surratt, on draft day?
119:07I know he fell. But is this, to me, I think he's a viable pick in round 27.
119:13And it's not an automatic zero. And I think that's a win there for this team.
119:18Yeah, I think Surratt's, look, there's openings to be had at the wide receiver position for Baltimore.
119:23If this offense does open up a little bit too, you know, it's not a bad get at all.
119:30I mean, look, camp hype is camp hype. But if you really like a player and you like where they went, just
119:37because they're not getting hyped up this early on doesn't mean you shouldn't just be out on a player.
119:43One guy I would note, Malik Benson, wide receiver to the Raiders.
119:47If he's available, he'd be somebody I'd be considering.
119:50Reports are that he's running with the ones, you know, and this is an offense that really, really needs talent at the wide receiver position.
119:58So that's a really open room. And he's already getting that time with the ones.
120:03So he's somebody that I've, you know, kind of been looking at here and there.
120:08Why don't you share your other screen with the players?
120:11If you hit share tab on your screen, that's showing where you're making the selections.
120:16Why don't we take a look and just see what's left for a quick second here.
120:21And you can kind of walk through the viewers to see, you know, kind of what other players you might be looking at right now.
120:29Absolutely. Pull it up. And then here we've got Brandon Ayuk.
120:32Miradike. Can you hear me good? Yeah, I got you.
120:36All right. Theo Johnson. Mike Gusecki. Ken Allen. Chris Brown.
120:39Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. What about, well, I like Jimmy Horn a little bit now that, you know, now that what's his face is injured.
120:47I see you got Ty Felton in the queue.
120:50I got, you got no row. Chimera and DK is interesting too.
120:54I, I, I, I don't know why so many are, are interested in it.
120:58Why, why does IU Manor go ahead of DK who, who played really well last year?
121:04Well, he's there. He's available. So I, I could take Chimera and DK.
121:08Yeah. I, I, I, I, I, I'm not totally sure why that, why that's the case.
121:13Um. Yeah. We see Mike Gusecki go. Chimera and DK.
121:16So somebody's listening. Who's got tight end left? Click on, click on tight end.
121:21We got Theo, Michael Mayer. Cole Komet. Tavion Sanders.
121:24Tavion Sanders. Okay. Noah Gray. Uh, is, is Raritan left?
121:27Eli Raritan? Sure is. Yeah. He would be like a last pick kind of upside play, you know, if Hunter Henry up there in age gets hurt.
121:36Also, Raritan's made some, has had some nice camp reports too.
121:39Um, so he, he's kind of interesting. Well, we see Keenan Allen go.
121:43What do you think of that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised.
121:48Keenan, Keenan is, uh, is you're, you get a lot of value on these free agent wide receivers that are veterans that are good.
121:55That just didn't sign. I mean, Debo Samuel wasn't signed.
121:59He shoots up the board. Stephon Diggs not signed.
122:02He shoots up the board, right? I mean, Keenan Allen, he'll sign somewhere and he'll be a top 200 pick in this
122:09format and possibly like, you know, top 120, 130, depending on where he goes.
122:13So, um, I don't think it's a bad pick at all.
122:17And then we see Justin Fields go. What do you make of him?
122:21Yeah. I'm, I'm good on it. I get the thought process and tournament like this, my homes come off the injury, something
122:28happens, you know, you, you get the backup and fields has the rushing upside, but, uh, yeah, I don't know if it was the Mahomes owner.
122:37I could understand. I don't know if that's the case, but, um, if it is the Mahomes owner, it makes more sense.
122:44Well, I love the Taj Brooks pick at team 108.
122:47I was looking at him, but Hey, I've got enough upside cuffs.
122:51Does team nine have four kick five kickers? It looks like it.
122:55Yeah. They do. Not really sure what's going on there, but I feel like money wasted.
123:00I don't know how five kickers just seems absolutely insane.
123:03I don't know. Maybe there's an edge that I'm not aware of.
123:07Um, that I'm missing out. Uh, I'm not sure.
123:10So you say we'll get a kicker as well and maybe another position, right?
123:14Right. Yeah. I do. That's fair. All right. Do you think you go Jalen Millrow or Eli Raritan?
123:20I'd go with Millrow over Raritan. Um, you know, just based on your quarterback room, you know, only real two starters.
123:27So. All right. I love it. I love it.
123:30I've been doing this in super flex tournaments, taking these high upside quarterbacks.
123:34It's phenomenal. So I guess the only thing we have to do left is look for kickers.
123:40Yeah. Well, team, team nine might take a sixth kicker.
123:43And then, I mean, is there any kickers left?
123:46Actually, no, they've all run out. Maybe they were trying to squeeze us.
123:50Oh, team 10 took the last one then. One pick before you last, uh, the last round.
123:56Well, we'll just have to go with the positional advantage there with the Dallas Cowboys.
124:01Whatever. All defenses are gone. So do you think, are you inclined to go towards receiver or running back?
124:07Or maybe Raritan if he comes back? What running backs are even left?
124:11Najee Harris available? We've got Seth McGowan. Devin Neal.
124:14Oh, Eli Raritan goes to team 10. Oh, yeah.
124:17They've got to be listening. Interesting. Jarquez Hunter. Phil Moffa.
124:20Adam Randall's gone. Yeah, Randall's gone. He's been gone.
124:23He was probably a couple rounds ago at least.
124:26Um, I'm thinking either Devin Neal or Seth McGowan who are still have a pulse.
124:31Najee Harris is out there as a free agent.
124:34Najee's interesting. I would prefer Najee over Devin Neal.
124:36I, I, I'm good with McGowan though. You know, you got JT with his holdout potential, um, getting up there in age.
124:44He did have issues with staying healthy a little bit ago.
124:47Um, Najee's just interesting because he's just, you just know he's going to sign somewhere and just be, be like, you know,
124:54going to crater some sort of room just in terms of their costs.
124:59Like people are just going to overreact super, super strongly to him.
125:02But I mean, this is just, Najee's such a weird situation, man.
125:06I mean, he goes from being with the Steelers, um, compile, being a compiler, not like a game breaker.
125:12And then goes to the Chargers. They, they end up draft, you know, you think he's going to have a big role.
125:20Then they go draft Hampton first round. And then you're like, well, he's going to hurt Hampton and then he gets hurt.
125:27And then it's like, well, what is he now?
125:30I don't know. But I do know he might get a role, uh, at some point.
125:35And you might say, Pete, he's not even signed.
125:38Like, well, he's coming off a torn Achilles. What are we talking about here?
125:42But I, I don't think the guy's retiring. Well, anything to somebody like Marvin Mims, who's still on the board.
125:49We talked about the Denver Broncos layer players. If he gets traded, could that be something appealing?
125:54Yeah. Mims is also, Mims is also a big play guy.
125:58So, um, there's some appeal in best ball because of that as well.
126:02Um, I don't know. Then I've also got Ty Felton.
126:05You had mentioned stacks with Kyler Murray. Would you lean him or Seth McGowan?
126:10I'd go with McGowan still. Okay. In my opinion, you know, the odds of wide receiver four on a team being viable
126:17in any way for you versus possibly, you know, running back two on a team.
126:22You know, there's a much clearer path to being successful.
126:25You know? Pete, can you believe that Brandon Iyuk went in round 29?
126:29Yes. Like, I don't even think he has a pulse.
126:32Do you think there's any tangible way that he could be on a team this season?
126:38I don't think he is. I don't think. Oh, there's Tuffer down.
126:42Oh, it's Michael. Michael is listening. Hey, good pick, man.
126:45Great pick. Great pick. No, I don't think he gets on a team.
126:49He's cooked, man. I really think so. So, you're saying it's Tjover.
126:53I think it's Tjover, too. It's Tuff and Dynasty not having all these dead shares of Brandon Iyuk.
126:59What a terrible feeling. Do you have any of him in Dynasty?
127:03No. I moved off of him. There were times, you know, it seemed like, hey, was there some value?
127:09I should try to get him at a discount.
127:12And then I just never pulled the trigger. We see Anthony Richardson go viable pick this late.
127:17I mean, I'd go with somebody like Jalen Milrow.
127:20Any path for Anthony Richardson? Yeah, I mean, he's got the trade request in.
127:25We'll see if that amounts to anything. But, yeah, I mean, it's a good pick.
127:30With Daniel Jones coming off the injury and his inability to stay healthy, too, it's not a bad pick at all.
127:36So, we're coming on the last round. And it's basically players who are in the polls.
127:42It's funny we see Ty Simpson go. I like that play.
127:45In the event that Matthew Stafford gets hurt, you're looking at the Rams being a phenomenal play.
127:51Yep, I agree. Genevion Sanders goes to Michael. Something to note, too.
127:54I think he has an ankle injury. I think he got dinged up in practice, which is a bummer.
128:01Sanders has always been a guy that people have really been higher on and liked.
128:05So, hopefully he can stay healthy because there's a lot of opportunity in that room.
128:10Cole Komet goes. I know you had him cued.
128:13Jahan Dotson goes. He's got a chance to technically be the wide receiver, too, there.
128:18You know, by the depth chart, I guess. So, there's some upside there.
128:22Malik Davis. So, man, I really hope somebody doesn't take Ty Felton on me, if anyone's listening.
128:28Is that what you're thinking, though? Is that going to be the pick, Felton?
128:32Yes, Pete. It's 100% going to be Ty Felton.
128:35No one can stop me. No one can pick him in front of me.
128:40These next three picks. It's kind of funny, as we look at the board, there's so much purple and orange in this bottom half.
128:48It's just funny how things start and end. Dude, Team 9, I mean, what an absolute joke of a roster.
128:54I'm sorry, but if this person ever listens to this, I mean, this person, Team 9, has three defenses and five kickers.
129:01And you look at where this person took them.
129:04It's like from around 16 to 30. Like, he killed most of his board.
129:09And he took a bunch of backup quarterbacks, Shador Sanders and Jameis Winston in that time.
129:14I mean, he's got so many dead picks here.
129:17That's really, really brutal. That's a really bad way to go about it.
129:21I'm sorry. I'm just going to be honest. And there's been no, like, auto draft that I've noticed.
129:27So it's active clicks, I guess. Maybe if you don't know all the players that are out there.
129:33But here I am, Pete. I know I talked about Ty Felton.
129:37I lied my face off. I'm going with Bryce Lance.
129:40What if you get Jordan Tyson, who's injury prone?
129:43You get Chris Labe, who has concussions. You're not one step off.
129:47Round four draft capital. He's a layered play. I love having him.
129:50So I could have gotten the stack with Ty Felton, but I think it's too cute.
129:56I actually like the idea of Bryce Lance. So a sleeper for me.
130:00To get him in round 30, I am elated.
130:03Yeah, I like it. Bryce Lance, good offense, really, really good schedule.
130:07And somebody who can absolutely carve out a decent role and have some spike weeks.
130:12So I don't hate to pick it all. Why don't you read the team off?
130:16Michael, thank you for drafting with us. Anybody else that drafted with us, thank you guys so much.
130:22We'll be back doing this again soon. If you heard on the audio side, thank you for hopping in as well.
130:29Jeremiah, read the team. And make sure we read the promo, and then we'll get out of here.
130:35All right, so we have Chase Brown, Emeka Buka, George Pickens, Bucky Irving, Parker Washington, Makai Lemon, Jordan Addison.
130:41And then we stack Baker Mayfield with Emeka Buka and Bucky Irving.
130:45We stack Kyler Murray with Jordan Addison. As we go down the board, third RB is Jonah Coleman.
130:51And then in round 11, Casey Concepcion, just another layered player that we love.
130:55Dallas Cowboys team kicker. He's our only kicker in round 12.
130:59We're going to get positional advantage. Bretton Strange. I waited until round 13 for me to come away in the entirety of the tight end room of Strange.
131:08Dalton Schultz in round 17. In round 20, Eli Stowers.
131:11I am elated. I have a cool thing going on with Parker Washington and Bretton Strange with a receiver and a tight end.
131:19I have a cool thing with Eli Stowers and Makai Lemon with a receiver and tight end with a quarterback I don't have in Jalen Hurts.
131:27Jaguars, Eagles respectively, high octane offenses. And then we've got DeMond Claiborne, Tyler Algier, Ray Davis, Ollie Gordon, Isaiah Davis.
131:34I took shots on all these running backs who I think I've got so much leverage on the rest of the draft
131:41board and hopefully the entirety of this contest. Layered player receivers, Trey Harris, Torrey Horton, Alec A.
131:46Manor. And then down to, I can't sit here and act like I intentionally came out with Tez Johnson, Malik Benson, or Bryce Lance.
131:54But as you know to Pete, Malik Benson running with the ones.
131:58I am stealing in round 27 if that's the case.
132:01And then I did take some risk in some places by building my team how much I did.
132:07It's Mack Jones and Jalen Milrow who may not fill much of any points for me this year.
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