0:00Future's now open! I'm good man, too hot to handle.
0:03Gotta get those other myths, I love that. That's a good one.
0:07Shout out to you Jose, it is your birthday this weekend, what is it two days from now?
0:13Is that right? Yeah, that's right. Happy birthday man, happy early birthday.
0:17I appreciate that, yeah we're gonna go out to, you know if it wasn't hot enough here in California, we're gonna go
0:24out to Arizona where I think the projected weather is somewhere in like the hundred and teens.
0:30So you know that should be fun, but yeah we're the whole families going out there.
0:35I'm gonna visit a nephew I haven't seen for a while, you know hit up the ballers show that they're doing out
0:42there and just celebrate with family for a few days.
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2:02All right, man, let's do it. We got some hot takes to get to today.
2:07This is going to be a fiery episode. We have no idea what each other's hot takes is.
2:13So this is this will be fun being a little surprise going back and forth, man.
2:18What do you think? Yeah, yeah. We wanted to kind of keep it, you know, without each other knowing.
2:24So we kind of surprise and have an on air reaction to each other's hot takes.
2:30So yeah, it should be a fun time. It's fun indeed.
2:33But before we get to that, as always, man, a quick hit.
2:37You ready? Let's do it. All right, let's just talk about some more news.
2:42There's been a ton of it coming out with all of the preseason, the training camps, and honestly, just lots of stuff happening within the NFL.
2:50The first one we have conclusion to the Josh Jacobs saga, or I guess not entirely concluded, but the legal court rulings
2:57is that he will be charged with two misdemeanors.
3:00Before that, prior to us getting that news, we had the head coach come out saying that they are preparing for games
3:07without him, which was kind of ominous. Like I think we all think that we all knew that that's what they were
3:14going to be doing, preparing the games without them.
3:17But for them to come out and say it to the media just felt like something was pending and impending.
3:24And lo and behold, the next day, Josh Jacobs, two misdemeanors.
3:27How do you think that's going to affect him going into this season?
3:32I don't know if there's any precedence or if you've looked at this at all for what misdemeanors will do and meaning of suspension for games.
3:40What are your takes on this? Yeah, I mean, I think it's usually probably going to fall in the four to six category.
3:48I think that's what most of these kind of cases seem to fall in line with.
3:53You don't want to ever minimize, obviously, any of these situations and compare them and say that, you know, I mean, what
4:00he did does not sound like a great person or a wonderful husband or partner.
4:05You know, there was definitely some stuff that went on there and he got charged.
4:10I mean, we've seen guys like seek back in the day.
4:13I think he got six games and that was without even being charged.
4:17He was just you know, there was just an investigation.
4:21So we've definitely seen those things happen. I think it would be pretty the league will come down, I think, pretty quickly.
4:28Like I wouldn't be surprised if he is suspended from the start of the season.
4:33Like I don't think this is something that drags on.
4:36It's such sense of the court has already ruled and it seems like it's you know, he's already getting slapped with those.
4:43I mean, maybe there's a court date and then if I wants to wait.
4:48But I think from what everything I've been reading from people talking about it, legally analyzing it, it seems like, you know,
4:55the NFL now has in hand what he did and what he's being charged with and accused with.
5:01So they can, you know, not even have to wait for a trial to happen and just come down with a suspension.
5:08So I don't think this is one of those like the Rasheed Rice or some of these other ones where we were
5:15waiting and waiting and it was like, oh, well, this might be a 2027 situation.
5:20I think if you're going into the season, you already drafted your redraft team and he was either your RB1 or RB2.
5:27You should be ready. Emmanuel Wilson should definitely right.
5:30That's who it is. Man. No, it's Marshawn Lloyd.
5:33Marshawn Lloyd. That's right. I mean, it was a went to Seattle.
5:37So Marshawn Lloyd, if you're in a redraft league and you, you know, he hasn't been scooped up on waivers and you
5:44are the Jacobs manager, definitely time to do that.
5:47If you're not the Jacobs manager, still time to do that right now in a dynasty league.
5:52You know, hopefully you are prepared as a contender to be without Jacobs for a while.
5:57I think the only positive if you want to look at anything out of this situation in a positive light is he
6:04seemed to have been banged up last year, this year.
6:08You know, for the at least what it's predicting, like either at the beginning or the early part of the season, I
6:15don't think it's going to hit late. You're going to be without Jacobs and he can be fully healthy for the back end and the playoff push.
6:24I think the Packers are going to heavily rely on him again anyways.
6:28So that's, I think, the only positive news to kind of spin out of this.
6:33But otherwise, yeah, I mean, I would be, you know, prepared to be without Jacobs for that that amount of time.
6:40At least that's what I would be guessing. Yeah.
6:42As you were talking there, I went and I headed over to Drew Davenport's X case or X feed here, who is
6:50he's the guy that is like the Twitter lawyer for all the fantasy football stuff.
6:54He does really great breakdowns on all this. And I hadn't looked at this until just now, so I'm kind of skimming it going over it.
7:03And from what I'm reading, he thinks that this is actually a good thing for Josh Jacobs.
7:08It's talking about how it's not a felony. It's a misdemeanor.
7:12So in a vacuum that actually improves things for him.
7:15And then there's something about how there's a court date for him in November, which is the initial appearance.
7:21And that's not a pretrial. So it sounds like there may not even be a suspension for him.
7:27Maybe this year, it depends on, you know, what comes down and out of those things.
7:32So I guess just stay tuned. It could he's saying also to it could spell a lengthy suspension suspension if it if
7:40it goes the wrong direction for him, which would be a minimum of six games if it is a felony.
7:46Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. Like you said, just if you have Josh Jacobs, just prepare yourself, go get Marshawn Lloyd.
7:53If you have Marshawn Lloyd and you're contending, probably just hold on to him.
7:58Or, you know, like if you feel like you can flip them for something decent to the Josh Jacobs owner.
8:04Like I wouldn't be opposed to that. But. Josh Jacobs is on the older side.
8:09What is he? 28 going on 29. 29 like Marshawn Lloyd is on, you know, the the precipice of his career here.
8:16So I think probably holding Marshawn Lloyd is is a decent move in this case.
8:21If you have him. I don't think I'd be selling for something like a second because likely that's probably what you bought
8:28in on him for like back in 2024. It's hard to remember what what all of them were going for back then,
8:35but I'm pretty sure it was Jonathan Brooks, Trey Benson and Marshawn Lloyd.
8:40Those were like the top three running backs that you wanted.
8:43And you probably ended up spending maybe like a late second on a Marshawn Lloyd, maybe an early third.
8:49So you might be able to capitalize on that and getting a 20, 27 second in a strong class.
8:56You might feel OK about that. To me. I'm just going to like hold on to that and see what we have
9:03like we haven't even seen him play football really yet.
9:06You know, he is as a. We had a wolf on and he was saying how Jonathan Brooks is just expensive Marshawn Lloyd's.
9:13It's kind of like the same bet, right? It's just he's a little bit cheaper here.
9:19So to me, I'm just kind of holding on Marshawn Lloyd here, I think, and waiting to see what I have in
9:26terms of talent level and skill level here. Yeah, I think that makes sense.
9:30All right. The next piece of news that we have here is Luther Burden on track to play week one, which is great news.
9:38He's been out with a groin strain, I believe is what it is.
9:42Yeah, I believe so. Yeah, let me let me confirm that real quick.
9:46But him coming back looking like he'll play for week one is great news for everyone.
9:52Unless you're a Rome, a dunze enthusiast as we are ourselves connoisseurs, as I would say.
9:57Yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting how much work.
10:00I mean, with those sorts of soft tissue injuries, it's always potential for, you know, re-injury.
10:05So there's some risk there. You know, we saw the Luther Burden kind of shine when Rome was gone.
10:11We'll see how that works out in the reverse.
10:14How much playing time Luther Burden's playing time was kind of already the big question.
10:19How many reps is he going to get? How, you know, how much is he going to be used?
10:25You know, and it's hard. It's it will see exactly how Ben Johnson really does deploy these weapons and how trustworthy is he.
10:33They know one week it's Colson Loveland. It's the greatest tight end in the history of the NFL.
10:38The next is Rome. The next is Luther Burden.
10:41I mean, obviously, he's talking up all his guys.
10:44So we'll see if really Caleb Williams can deliver.
10:47I think that's the biggest question. I don't doubt that all three of those guys are elite at their positions.
10:54And if they were on other teams, they would be, you know, much higher.
10:58I think dynasty play players besides Loveland, who's I think already like in the top five.
11:03So it's good news. I mean, it's always good to have the good players.
11:08I think it helps the Bears offense in general.
11:11And then, you know, you're kind of back to seeing exactly who's going to be the guy in that offense.
11:17Yeah, it'll kind of choose your fighter type of thing with him.
11:21Honestly, like it. It's probably Colson Loveland, either that or or what happens is.
11:26Ben Johnson really wants to break all of the scoring records for the NFL and all of them end up being good.
11:33Like that's a reality here. Yeah, I mean, that would be pretty wild.
11:37But, you know, I mean, he was very aggressive, put up a lot of points when he was with the Detroit.
11:44Lions. So, you know, that is part of his his mindset.
11:48So it will be very interesting. I think that's going to be definitely one of the biggest offseason things to kind of look back on between the burden.
11:57Roman Colson Loveland. How did all that, you know, love triangle end up out there?
12:02Yeah, for sure. All right. The next piece of news that we have here is Marvin Harrison Jr.
12:07reportedly looking like a different wide receiver from the start of camp, which is especially noteworthy for our show.
12:14As I just called out Marvin Harrison Jr. as a fade on last week's show.
12:18And I'm actually writing up him as a faller over the camp in an article that's going to be coming out on player profiler.
12:26So now I don't know what to think about Marvin Harrison Jr.
12:30Is he him? Is he not? Is he dropping balls?
12:33Is he catching them? I don't know, man. What are you making of this?
12:38Yeah, I mean, for the last week, I just hopped on Twitter and I do something that's probably pretty dumb, which is
12:45scroll the for you page on Twitter instead of like your following because some shit gets on there.
12:51But yeah, no, I literally saw it seemed like a propaganda machine.
12:55Like, you know, I'm a big soccer fan and in soccer, you have like news outlets that pretty much are favorable to teams.
13:02And sometimes like the players or the coaches or whoever starts leaking.
13:06And there's like this kind of wave of support or anti against the player or a coach or whatever that kind of hits.
13:14And you see all the accounts and all the all reporters kind of doing the same thing.
13:19And it's seemed like that for Marvin Harrison Jr.
13:22over the last week. Like it just seemed like everybody had nothing but good things to say.
13:28And there was, you know, positive clips attached to those hype pieces.
13:31So I guess, you know, there is reason to be like hopeful, right?
13:36That the guy, the elite wide receiver that everybody thought was, you know, theirs is there.
13:41So let's see. Maybe he's fully healthy. Maybe he's feeling figuring out the offense and Jacoby Brissett, you know, that whole thing.
13:48I think for the NFL, it would only be a positive to have Marvin Harrison Jr.
13:53be good. I know a lot of people in dynasty teams are really hopeful for that year three breakout for, you know,
14:00a JSN sort of resurgence into, you know, positive value that he's completely lost over the last two years.
14:06Do you think Marvin Harrison Sr. is paying off beat reporters to say good things about him?
14:12Yeah, I mean, that definitely could be. I mean, or, you know, the Cardinals are interested in trading him away or something, you know, it is.
14:20Those are the type of things that do happen in soccer media, which is kind of funny.
14:26But yeah, it kind of felt that way. Or, you know, in politics, I guess that also happens.
14:32We can not touch that one too, you know, with a 10 football, but I mean, it does happen like the propaganda you see in it.
14:40It felt like Marvin Harrison Jr. probably. And they kind of felt like what team was it?
14:46Oh, it was the Jacksonville Jaguars where it was like this, this week is Bayshall toon week.
14:51Okay, now it's Brian Thomas Jr. week, then it's Jacoby Myers week, then it's Parker.
14:56Like, that's kind of what it felt like, like, okay, it's Marvin Harrison Jr.
15:01time. We got to gas him up. Jeremiah Love is hurt.
15:04You know, this is all we you know, I haven't heard much about Trey McBride.
15:09Hopefully, he's, you know, still there and doing his thing.
15:12But yeah, I think it's just he was so good last year.
15:16People, people are like, okay, he's still he's still good.
15:20You know, like, it's just one of those things when when the good players are out there.
15:25If you don't hear any news about them, that's like better than hearing news about them, right?
15:31It's like, you don't hear news of Oh, Puka Nakua going off in camp, because that's just expected.
15:36Right? I mean, like, that's just what he hasn't, right?
15:40He's been hurt, and he's maybe getting suspended too.
15:43So, but I get the sentiment and everything. Yeah, it makes sense.
15:46It holds true. You haven't heard much about JSN, right?
15:50This camp or just. There you go. That's a better example there.
15:54Yeah. I don't know, man. Like, I guess there's at least videos of him catching the ball and toe touching.
16:00That's that's all I've seen is pretty much like sideline catches where he's, you know, bringing in a touchdown and toe tapping for for.
16:08I don't know. He's catching the ball, which is an improvement from where he started in camp.
16:13So the beat goes on. All right. The next piece of news, not necessarily extremely significant here, but to to out.
16:20Well, is going, going back, back to Cali Cali.
16:23He got traded from the Dolphins to the Rams in exchange for Jarquez Hunter going to Miami, which is a little puzzling to me.
16:31Don't they already have like six running backs on their team?
16:34Yeah. I mean, they they're like, why do we need wide receivers?
16:38We have elite. We have elite wide receiver room.
16:41We should just trade away one of the other guys that's, you know, been a solid NFL wide receiver for like three
16:48years with the Rams previously or wherever he was also before that.
16:52Yeah, we need another running back. So, yeah, I mean, just puzzling.
16:56I mean, you know, for you listeners out there, I had to hear that joke twice so you can feel twice as
17:03bad for me from Jay Mack there. But yeah, I mean, cool.
17:07I mean, I think Tutu Alba has had like especially in the Rams offense, you know, some viable games.
17:13So I definitely don't think he's a nothing burger.
17:16He's definitely somebody, you know, if you have an extra roster spot or you want to turn a deep dynasty best ball league spot.
17:24I mean, he's popped into lineups, I think, three times over the last couple of years, like each year.
17:30So, you know, that's three starts that you can get into a flex.
17:35It's not nothing. So if you have a, you know, one of these injured running backs or somebody, you know, you're not very fond of.
17:43I don't hate the addition of Tutu Alba in like a deep dynasty best ball league.
17:48Here's the thing that I'm taking from this small signals, small signals.
17:52But number one, the Rams did nothing to address their wide receiver three position all year, which was a boon or an argument for Terrence Ferguson breakout.
18:00So the fact that they traded so late in the offseason to go get a wide receiver that they've had experience with
18:08kind of gives me bad vibes on the Terrence Ferguson front.
18:11Like, I don't I don't necessarily think that maybe there's a breakout like we all thought was going to happen this season.
18:18I think maybe he's just going to be more involved and they don't necessarily feel uncomfortable with him growing into that role
18:25of being the wide receiver three for the Rams.
18:28So that's kind of number one with my take here.
18:32Number two is does Miami not feel comfortable with either Jalen Wright or.
18:36Blinking on thinking on his name. I have to say, Oli Gordon, Oli Gordon, Oli, Oli.
18:41Yeah. Like, are they not comfortable with him with either of them as the RB two?
18:46And they felt like they needed to make a move to go get another running back to maybe push the envelope on
18:53those two to either grow or put Jarquez Hunter in there.
18:57I don't know. I don't want to, you know, burst your bubble, but I think you're you got the crazy meme guy
19:04with all the arrows and the thing on the wall.
19:07And like, yeah, you can't see it. Honestly, this feels like one of those like you trade your board trading and you're
19:14just like, hey, trade me Jarquez Hunter for two to elbow.
19:18And you're like, ah, sure. Like, I don't know, man.
19:21Like, it's just also I lied to do. I was definitely not worth a pickup.
19:26I just went back real quick to check, look through his games because I think I got him confused with somebody else.
19:33I don't know. Oh, you know, actually what I was thinking about was Devante Adams.
19:38Like somebody mentioned that, like when McVay is done with a vet and he tries to replace him, he's like he feels like they're cooked.
19:46So I don't know what that means for Devante Adams.
19:50I'm not here saying Jordan Tutu Alba is going to eat into his workload, but they did try to trade for A.J.
19:57Brown or supposedly they did. So I find that a little bit interesting.
20:01Honestly, with the tight ends, I've kind of come to the conclusion that they're just going to be a huge thorn in
20:08the side for Devante Adams, Puka and Kyron Williams.
20:11Like you're going to get down there by the goal line or 12 yards away.
20:16And Terrence Fergins is going to catch the touchdown.
20:19And then next play next, you know, next time they're near the red zone, it's going to be one of the other dudes.
20:26I don't know, Tyler Higbee or whoever. And like Matthew Stafford will do three touchdowns and like Puka will catch one of them.
20:34The other ones will be the tight ends. Like you're just going to be like blue balled by the tight ends and
20:41not really being able to start one because you'll think, oh, Terrence Ferguson popped off two weeks in a row.
20:47And then if it's a line of lead, you'll start Terrence Ferguson and he'll give you three points.
20:53So it's just going to be an exasperating, I think, sort of thing, like a head scratcher where you're probably just best
21:00off like not trying to play Russian roulette. If you want to add one of them in a dynasty best ball league,
21:07Terrence Ferguson is definitely the guy I think you want because I think he's the best player in that room.
21:14But he's definitely not anyone that I wanted rostered in a lineup league.
21:18Yeah, no, I think you can add it on the head.
21:22And that's really interesting about the Devante Adams slight, I guess, is what you would might call that.
21:28Yeah, that's something to pay attention to and seeing here how we go forward.
21:32All right, the last two bits of information we have is Jonu Smith signing in Green Bay on a one-year deal.
21:39Just a depth add, right? I think with their backup tight end who went on IR or the PUP, they needed somebody
21:46to come in and play behind Kraft. And then the last bit of information, Cedric Tillman getting released by the Browns, which
21:53was funny because I had shower thoughts the other day of how I want to try and pick up Cedric Tillman in
22:00more leagues because I feel like he's going to get moved on from and maybe a team picks him up.
22:07And he gets a chance somewhere because he was good in the limited options or limited opportunities we saw from him, even
22:14though it was with bad quarterback play. Yeah, I mean, if you guys don't think we're at least smart or have popular
22:21takes, at least you can know you're in very qualified, degenerate hands when one of the hosts is having shower thoughts about Cedric Tillman.
22:29So, yeah, man, I don't know. I haven't thought about Cedric Tillman maybe ever in my life.
22:34So there you go. You're better at this than I am, I guess.
22:39No, but it would be interesting depending on where he lands, right?
22:43Like, let's say he goes to Miami, like Cedric Tillman all of a sudden could be the most talented wide receiver there.
22:50Like, I wouldn't hate, like, thinking about Cedric Tillman then.
22:53But, I mean, it all depends where he might end up.
22:57Yeah, I mean, I was on the repeat of washing my hair for the second time.
23:02And I was just like, what? I wonder what Cedric Tillman is doing right now.
23:07I'm just kidding. Yeah. It does. It does, yeah.
23:09We'll see where he lands. If it's somewhere where there's maybe a need for someone like him, maybe he goes over to
23:17Miami now that they just got rid of Tutu Atwell.
23:20That could be interesting. Yeah, there's places he could go where I would be interested in.
23:25The commanders, maybe as a wide receiver three for the commanders, I could see that being interesting.
23:31Shoot, man. Come over to the 49ers, bro. Are you familiar with substations?
23:35Yeah, come collect that workers comp. You know, they got good health insurance plans out there.
23:40Cedric Tillman's only had concussion concerns, and I don't think the substations work with those.
23:45So I think we're good. I think we're good.
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24:23All right. Let's get into the 2026 hot takes.
24:25Do you want to lead off or do you want me to lead off, man?
24:30I can lead off. Let's do it. I got a good one for you.
24:35I got a good one for you here. Okay.
24:38I'm prepared. All right. Close your eyes. All right.
24:41Imagine this. I want you to picture this. Okay.
24:44Okay. I'm picturing it. George Pickens outscores CeeDee Lamb and finishes as a top five wide receiver.
24:49Nope. This is my nightmare. I hate it. So I know this one will get some pushback from you, but my take
24:56is that CeeDee Lamb is being drafted as the wide receiver five.
25:00George Pickens is around wide receiver 10 or 11.
25:03We talked about him on the last episode. I'm just taking the discount because Pickens, I think, is going to lead Dallas in the fantasy points again.
25:12Like, I think he just has the bigger playability.
25:15He's just not going to draw the double coverages or the elite coverage that CeeDee Lamb will take away.
25:21So if they're playing together, I think that actually helps Pickens' game.
25:25And if you look at what actually happened last year in terms of targets, in terms of receptions, in terms of yards,
25:32touchdowns, and red zone targets, Pickens led and understand Lamb was hurt.
25:36But I don't necessarily think that that just changes just because Pickens, Lamb's going to be healthy, right?
25:42You also have roughly a 16-pick discount between Pickens and CeeDee Lamb.
25:46So if you think they're going to finish somewhere close or they're both finishing as wide receiver ones, I think there's definitely a good discount to take there.
25:55Pickens finished in the entire NFL third in receiving yards, fourth among wide receivers in fantasy points and in second team all pro honors.
26:02And this wasn't like simply touchdown luck. He averaged 15.4 yards per reception compared with Lamb's like 14.4.
26:08He got more targets, more red zone opportunities that we're talking about.
26:12So I think you're just basically getting an elite wide receiver for a cheaper price at ADP currently.
26:18So to me, it's like you at some point have to stop calling George Pickens like the wide receiver two or the Robin.
26:26I think, you know, realistically Dallas has two Batmans.
26:28I don't know if that's what, you know, Dallas needs, but that's what they have.
26:33And I think that's more likely that Pickens, just because of his big playability and his not drawing the number wide receiver,
26:40the cornerback one, maybe just due to name or whatever have you, we'll finish higher in the top five.
26:47I'm really glad this was one of your hot takes because we were just discussing this in one of the leagues today from our fades episode.
26:55Dewey does dynasty who came on process first did not like my George Pickens fade.
27:00He posted his portfolio share of 20% George Pickens and said, J-Mac, you're crazy.
27:04George Pickens is a top 10 wide receiver. You're getting them at that price.
27:09He's going to deliver on it. Dewey being the math guy, he is proceeded to break down all of the attempts and
27:16target shares and yards and touchdowns and catches. And I said, Dewey, it feels like you're projecting last year's numbers and taking that, projecting it forward.
27:25All I'm saying is, I don't think that's what's happening here.
27:28Okay. Like CD lamb is going to come back.
27:31He's going to be the guy that he's always been.
27:34And him and George Pickens are just going to flip flop in the stats and you're going to be paying your wide
27:41receiver 10 prices to get the wide receiver 18 and below.
27:45So I don't know, man. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
27:49Like why does everybody like George Pickens? I don't get it.
27:53I think it's just a personal vendetta you have against him.
27:56That's what it seems like. No, I mean the splits when CD came back were not so negative for Pickens.
28:03It was definitely less inconsistent and I definitely think it's going to be a little bit up and down, but that's any wide receiver.
28:10I just think that Pickens has that talent. I think there was three years of him in Pittsburgh and it kind of
28:18just gave a really bad stink to him in terms of like on field, what people thought about him, yada, yada, yada.
28:25So I just think he's a very, very talented wide receiver.
28:28And as CD lamb ages and his contract, like I would not be surprised if there's a move coming for the, you
28:35know, Cowboys, if they're able to resign or long-term extension Pickens where they move on from lamb and make him the star.
28:42But, you know, that's a whole different, you know, NFL talk.
28:46I just see that in terms of NFL coverages, it's like you feel like you have to double or show shadow CD more.
28:54And if you try to go one-on-one with either, then you just have to hope that Dak makes the right read and throws the ball well.
29:02And either of them are going to feast, you know, you have a good round ground game.
29:07Like the Cowboys offense, Dak staying healthy is going to be a top offense in the league, I think, in terms of
29:15scoring, in terms of everything that they're going to be doing.
29:18And I obviously coming from the Cowboys fan, that's, you know, delusional.
29:22It's, you know, I'm not going to say the dreaded three letter, three word sentence because we never speak that in my household.
29:30But, you know, for fantasy, I think it's going to be fantasy goodness if Dak stays healthy.
29:35It's like that movie where he goes into the guitar store and it's up on the wall and it says, no stairway to heaven.
29:43Like that's what you guys have on your wall.
29:46No, it's our year. Yeah. No, he can't. Nope.
29:49I'm not even. I don't even know what you just said.
29:52I went there for a second. But what's your first hot take, Jay McElhinney?
29:57You got more on my boy Pickens. Of course I got more on Pickens.
30:01We can't just move on like that. I think it's crazy.
30:05That's the darkest timeline. If CeeDee Lamb gets moved and George Pickens stays in Dallas, maybe it happens.
30:11Maybe it does. But CeeDee Lamb has a huge contract.
30:14Like, do you think that's easily tradable rather than George Pickens, who's going to be able to be traded and then signed
30:21for whatever the team wants them for? That just not.
30:24That doesn't make sense to me. I like it's way more likely that George Pickens gets moved on from next year than CeeDee Lamb.
30:32And honestly, because of that, I think it makes a ton of sense for the ownership to put pressure on coaching to throttle George Pickens' production.
30:41Because they don't want to have to pay him going into next year what they think he thinks he should be worth coming off of a career year.
30:50Which last year was George Pickens' career year. Man, that should have been my hot take.
30:55That would have been funny if it was. Okay.
30:58Okay. I'll get off my soapbox here. All right.
31:01You ready for my first one? Let's do it.
31:04Okay. You're definitely not going to like this one.
31:07The New York Jets have two top 12 assets at the end of this year for fantasy purposes.
31:12And I don't know who those two top 12 assets are going to be.
31:17It could be Geno Smith being a QB1, making a resurgence of his career.
31:22Most likely one of them is going to be Brees Hall.
31:25Definitely. Definitely one of them will be Garrett Wilson.
31:28We have a lot of smoke for that offense that Garrett Wilson and Brees Hall are going to be the bell cows and targeted like crazy.
31:36We saw the potential of what Garrett Wilson could be in weeks one through seven, I believe it was, before he got injured.
31:44He was, you know, a top five wide receiver on a per game basis going, going into his injury before he was, you know, left the year.
31:53Brees Hall was definitely a disappointment, but that was, had more to do with the offensive system than it did have to
32:00do with Brees Hall's talent or a decline of talent or whatever you want to call it.
32:05They were also playing with a ghost of a quarterback, Justin Fields, whatever you, whatever that means to you.
32:12And then beyond that, I don't even remember who they pieced it together with after they moved on from just Tyrod Taylor, I think was, was in there.
32:21There, there might've even been another quarterback in there.
32:24If Geno Smith can stay healthy, we've seen how good Geno Smith can be when he has a functional offensive line, which the Jets have.
32:32I feel like a delusional Jets fan, just making this argument for these two top 12 assets, but I do believe it.
32:39I think that they are in a weaker division.
32:42When you're saying top 12 assets, you mean like top 12 finishes?
32:46Cause when I hear assets, you're saying, okay, gotcha.
32:49Yeah. Top 12 finishes. So not assets like going into the dynasty year.
32:53And that's why I was like, why are we even talking Gino?
32:57If you're talking about, that's what I got thrown off, but I get, you say that they're going to have a quarterback running back or a wide receiver.
33:06One, two of those. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, good on you, man.
33:10I don't, I, you know, Ray should buy you a lunch or something.
33:14Ray's a friend of ours. Who's a mod in the, the ballers discord.
33:19He also takes care of the megalobo. He's the biggest, most delusional Jets fan.
33:23Um, he tried to tell me last year that, you know, Justin Fields was going to be good and all these things
33:30where, you know, um, I honestly, I think that would be bad for what the Jets organization want.
33:36I think they want Gino to not look like a dumpster fire, but also ultimately lose enough games so that they can
33:43have a high end pick to get one of these quarterbacks and hopefully finally turn their franchise around.
33:49Um, I just, it's hard to believe like the Jets and the Raiders from last year, is there that big of a difference?
33:57Like if you say the offensive line is better, I'll, I'll believe in you, but like the, the game play that Gino had was so bad.
34:05Like, you know, at some point these guys just lose it and, you know, seeing it from quarterbacks where it's just like, they don't have it.
34:14I wouldn't be surprised if Gino doesn't finish the year.
34:17I mean, they have a, a young quarterback, right?
34:20Who's it? What's the guy? Um, not Carson Beck.
34:23Yeah. Oh, Carson Beck. No, no, no. It's club Nick.
34:26It's club Nick. Okay. I wouldn't be surprised if they throw him out for five games and see what happens.
34:32I just think there's so much volatility and so much like stink about how bad that offense might be that it's just
34:40hard to see Garrett Wilson or Brees Hall get there on this.
34:43You know, they, one of them gets into the double digit touchdowns, which, Hey, I mean, they also drafted Sadiq.
34:50They drafted, uh, Omar Cooper Jr. Right. Right. So like those guys are going to have to get involved.
34:56Like if, um, Garrett Wilson has like the 35% plus target share and Brees Hall just like has every single touch, but she's already hurt.
35:04So, you know, that's something to account for. I find it hard to believe.
35:09I definitely think the craziest one would be if Gino is a top 12 quarterback.
35:14Like, uh, you know, I think that is the most, you know, crazy thing, but I mean, we've seen crazier things happen
35:21in the NFL, but, um, I could see Garrett Wilson and running and Brees Hall, like sneaking in there both as like
35:28the wide receiver 11 and the running back like 10 or 12 or something.
35:32Like, I don't think that's so far fetched. Those guys are very good at football.
35:37Um, you know, you just, when you don't have a ton of opportunity to score touchdowns, it's, it's difficult, but I mean, I don't hate it.
35:46I don't think it's like, it's definitely a hot take.
35:49It's not a delusional take, I guess is what I would say.
35:53What's the difference. Right. I mean, when we're talking about these things, you haven't even heard delusional yet.
35:59I am going to get real spicy on you guys coming up.
36:03That, that was my easy one. That was my easy.
36:06Just wait, wait. Wait, wait, just wait. Okay. Are you ready for your next one?
36:11Or do we have more to say about the jets here?
36:14No, I think, I think this is the most attention we've given the jets on this entire podcast.
36:20I think so. Yeah. So, um, I think I'm going to save my, my biggest, like, uh, kind of, you know, deepest
36:27three type of shot, um, for my last one.
36:30And I'll throw one out that kind of goes with a player I was talking about, um, last week, as I was thinking about it more and more.
36:39Um, I think Jay, Jay, uh, Chase Brown is going to finish the top three running back.
36:45Like in fantasy. Um, I just, the more and more I looked at the stats, the more and more I looked at it.
36:52I think, although he's not as talented as Bijan, he's not a talent as Gibbs.
36:57His opportunity is right up there with those guys, right?
37:00Like he, there's nobody to compete with him. He's on one of the better offenses tied to one of the better quarterbacks in the NFL.
37:08Something that Bijan is not, um, for one, um, like they don't even know who the quarterback is.
37:14I mean, you know, not to get too tangential here, but, um, to us so bad that he made it impossible for
37:21them to not start penics is I think how Schefter put it, which is wild statement.
37:27Like that's crazy. Um, but I mean, so my take here is that we're drafting Chase Brown around running back 10 and 11.
37:34And I think there's a legitimate chance. We're looking back in January and he's the RB one overall.
37:40Brown is currently like pick 16 running back 11.
37:43So simply saying he'll outperform ADP. I'm saying he can jump into the Gibbs Bijan.
37:48And if CMC plays a full year, that sort of tier.
37:51Um, I think the statistical case there is that Brown quietly produced almost 1500 scrimmage yards last season, a thousand rush yards, 437 receiving yards.
37:59Um, and especially in PPR leagues, he caught 69.
38:02Nice. Out of 88 targets, uh, setting a bangle season, single season record for receptions by a running back.
38:09He was only five NFL players with a thousand rushing yards and 400 receiving yards last season.
38:14Um, and his season was basically split in two.
38:17The moment that Joe Burrow goes hurt and that other guy, whatever his name was starting.
38:22And then when Joe Flacco came, I remember there was panic in the streets, you know, Jake Browning, I think was his name.
38:30Like trade chase Brown for a ham sandwich. That's been sitting out in the sun for two weeks.
38:35Like that was the panic. Same with chase. Like, and we talked about it on the show, right?
38:41It's like, what can you do? And then, you know, uh, Joe Flacco old man came riding into town and it completely changed, right?
38:49Like, um, if he, if you extrapolated his season with, um, with Joe Burrow or with Joe Flacco, he had a 17 game pace of 19 touchdowns.
38:58Obviously touchdowns are the least stickiest stat, but that just tells you how much they were using him, especially in the receiving
39:05game towards the end of the season. Um, Cincinnati didn't add any meaningful backfield competition.
39:10I think Brown could approach 300 touches easily. And if he just maintains his receiving role that we were seeing him grow
39:17into last year, um, and he gets a full healthy season from Burrow.
39:21There's just all three things that will line up to have that RB one kind of special or top three.
39:28I think RB one's a little, you know, with Gibbs and CMC, if he was healthy, I think it's a little bit,
39:35um, too spicy, but I think a top three running back finish, uh, with the volume receptions and just TD environment.
39:42Um, so if I told you there was a 1400 rear running back who caught 69 passes and plays with Joe Burrow
39:49and he has no backfield competition, I think would he still be, be drafted as the RB 11?
39:55I think it's kind of the same as what we were talking about on our previous show.
40:00It just seems like chase Brown is not a sexy name.
40:04He was not a sexy player coming out. Um, you know, he's just not the name.
40:09He's not a Gibbs. He's not a B-Jean. He's not a CMC.
40:13He's not even an Omar in Hampton. Um, and he could easily, you know, be in the tier with those other guys and very easily outperform a Hampton.
40:22So, um, that's my take. And what do you think, J-Mac?
40:26I mean, it's true. He doesn't have a sexy name, right?
40:29I mean, it's not B-Jean or, you know, Jameer or, or Devon, right?
40:33Let's just chase like, like, come on, bro. Get a new name, dude.
40:38And there's another chase on his team, right? Like he's not even the best chase on his team.
40:43Like it's crazy, right? Like, you know, man, like I'm so back and forth on chase Brown.
40:49Like one day I'm like, yeah, chase Brown, he could, he could, he could be really good this year.
40:55And then the next day I'm like, I don't know.
40:58Like, could he be that good? Like I read these reports of preseason with Samajay Pirine mixing in for, for these snaps for 30% of the snaps.
41:07Like, does that equate to chase Brown being as good as we think he's going to be?
41:13Like, but then again, the next day I'm like, wow, the Bengals have the second best strength of schedule.
41:19They're going to be really good. What pieces do I want on that offense?
41:23Chase Brown's looking pretty good, especially at the one, two turn in your redraft leagues.
41:28I don't know what to think of chase Brown, man.
41:31Like, I, I think, I think he has this, a high range of outcomes that could happen for him this season.
41:38I definitely do see a top three running back finish in the range of outcomes for him to finish.
41:44So I don't think that I'm like completely off of this take.
41:48Like, I think it's delusional by any means, if that's the word that we're going to put to these things, but at
41:55the same time, like I'm just, I don't know, keeping my expectations under wraps for, for this whole chase Brown breakout, which seems to be gaining steam here.
42:05Like so many analysts, JJ Zachariasen is one of them.
42:08Who's just on the chase Brown train here and has been hyping up him and one of his most owned players and in the best ball streets.
42:17So he's pretty good and a smart listen. I, I tend, I tend to kind of lean that way.
42:23Yeah. I mean, like in terms of some Andre Piron, I mean, I think he was hurt for a little bit last
42:30season, but he was active for like 16 out of 18 games and he didn't really, there was one game where he
42:37had 14 and another game where he had 14 rush attempts.
42:41Like, I just don't see some Andre Piron at what, what is he like 30 something years old, really being the thorn in the side.
42:49Um, it's not even like a David Montgomery Gibbs sort of thing.
42:53It's like, you know, if you're taking chase Brown out of the game to put some Andre Piron in, like you're actively hurting your team, I would say.
43:02So, um, yeah, I mean, I think you added a few things that I mentioned in terms of like the strength of schedule and all those things.
43:10I just really liked chase Brown and I liked the value that you get.
43:15Like if you're drafting a, even top five, but if definitely these top three, when as the running back 10 or 11,
43:22like you're, you're winning your league a lot of times.
43:25You're that spike in, in points and value is, is huge.
43:29So, um, I just, you know, I, I think it's a easy click at, like you said, at that two, uh, one, two turn.
43:37Yeah, that's fair. And in terms of dynasty too, I feel like he's a very acquirable asset.
43:42He like, he's, he's not crazily expensive. And on top of that too, if he does have a huge season this year,
43:49he's going to be up for a contract next year.
43:53So if you pair those two things together, huge previous season with a contract, his value is going to spike.
43:59He's probably worth a little more than a first right now, but if that happens next year, he's going to be worth probably two firsts.
44:07Plus he'll be entering, you know, the fourth, fifth running back off the board and dynasty formats, I imagine in startups next year.
44:15So just something to kind of add on there as a little cherry on top for, for the dynasty formats here.
44:21All right. A hundred percent. Let's take a quick break here and then we'll catch you guys on the other side of
44:29the words from our sponsors to go over our last three hot takes for the 2026 season.
44:34All right. Welcome back. I am up now with my hot take number two of the season.
44:40And it's going to feel a little bit disingenuous here after you just laid out the argument for Chase Brown as a
44:47top three running back in fantasy, because I say he's going to finish as a, no, I'm just kidding.
44:53How funny would that have been, right? That would have been great.
44:57No, but I do have another running back that I think could be a top three fantasy asset at the end of this year.
45:05Sorry, not asset fantasy finish. But if he did, he would be a top three fantasy asset, I believe.
45:11And that is Omarion Hampton of the Los Angeles Chargers.
45:14I am very bullish on Omarion Hampton. I am all in on the profile, on the situation.
45:20I don't see how this type of situation can miss for this year.
45:24Just like Chase Brown, he's going around that one, two turn and redraft leagues.
45:28He feels like an absolute smasher at that price.
45:31We were talking about the other day, how I'm taking him over Ashton Gentty.
45:36Omarion Hampton is legitimately probably the RB5 off the board for me after the big two, James Cook and Jonathan Taylor.
45:43I think I'm taking Omarion Hampton there. What more do we need?
45:47Yes, Tyler Biotos went down, but the rest of the offensive line is still healthy.
45:51We have Mike McDaniel running the offense there now, who has done wonders for Devon HN, having legitimate top end running back finishes for HN.
45:59Omarion Hampton was one of my favorite prospects coming out of the draft last year.
46:04I was legitimately considering putting him in front of Ashton Gentty, but I did it for the sake of keeping the image.
46:12Right. No one would do that. No one would put Omarion Hampton above Gentty, which maybe that's crazy.
46:17But here I am now putting Omarion Hampton above Gentty and it doesn't seem all that crazy.
46:23I just think what he put on tape last year, we didn't see crazy breakaway runs.
46:28We didn't see him, you know, with these explosive taking the ball to the house.
46:33But what we did see is a guy who can break tackles and get extra yardage, who's big enough and fast enough
46:40to get around the corner and make defenders miss.
46:43He averaged, I don't remember his average of the yards per carry, but it was high enough up there where it was impressive.
46:50This is something that I just fell in love with when I watched his film was him just breaking tackles, continuing to get upfield and push the chains.
47:00I think that is an underrated aspect here. When you pair that up with Mike McDaniels and this offense that he's got
47:07here, I think Omarion Hampton can fly so high.
47:10Top three running back finish is in the cards here for Omarion Hampton this season.
47:14The Chargers also have a favorable strength of schedule.
47:17I think they're like top 14 or something like that in terms of how their schedule goes.
47:23On top of that too, like Justin Herbert is legitimately good.
47:26I think with him heading the offense, using the weapons like Ladd and Quentin Johnston and Omarion Hampton, I think they're going to lean on each other.
47:35And Omarion Hampton is going to have a breakout season here.
47:39Leading the way, the charge for this offense will be Omarion Hampton with Justin Herbert and crew backing them up.
47:45I think they have a legitimate good season here for the Chargers.
47:49If everything can kind of come together and stay healthy for them, Omarion Hampton running back three finish on the year.
47:56Yeah, I mean, I think that the case for Omarion Hampton makes a lot of sense.
48:01I mean, McDaniel has done what he's done. I think McDaniel has also been a little bit of an interesting case when
48:08he's had one of these elite players and how he split.
48:12I mean, we had the Raheem Mostert year with Achan where Mostert scored like 20 touchdowns.
48:17I mean, he had a ton. That split was pretty even the next year.
48:22Mostert still got quite a bit of run, except he wasn't able to stay healthy, which he hadn't been able to do most of his career.
48:30So I think it's interesting because he has talked a lot about Keith Mitchell.
48:35Kimani Vidal is still there. And my biggest thing for Hampton hitting that level is, do you think he's going to have enough receptions?
48:42Because I don't think he's a guy that's going to hit 2K rushing yards, right?
48:47Or like 15 touchdowns, 20 touchdowns. I find it hard to see that.
48:52So it has to come from the passing game.
48:54And with all the other options, I mean, we love the tight ends there.
48:59People love the tight ends. Apparently Gadsden has fallen off the edge of the planet.
49:04But he was at least there. We love the two wide receivers and QJ Ladd.
49:09So do you think he's going to get enough receptions to push him there?
49:13I mean, obviously you do. But do you think it's realistic for him to have a pretty big role in the passing
49:20game that isn't eaten in by Keane Mitchell or Vidal?
49:24I don't think it's crazy. We're not reaching what Gentee or Chase Brown got last year in the 60s and 70s.
49:30But I do think it'll be in the 40s or 50s enough to keep him afloat.
49:36But I do think that he can just make that up in touchdowns.
49:40I don't think it's crazy that he has a James Cook level touchdowns where he gets the ball.
49:46And probably more so, right? Because you don't have Josh Allen stealing goal line touchdowns with Justin Herbert.
49:52It's really going to go to Omari and Hampton.
49:54So I could definitely see him getting 15, 16 touchdowns in a season where he accomplishes 40 to 50 catches.
50:01I think that would pretty much do it to get him there, even if it's only 1,200, 1,300 yards on the ground.
50:08Yeah, I mean, I was going to say that James Cook year where he had the 16, he only finished as the running back eight.
50:16And he had 38 targets, 32 receptions. So I think you're just going to need more.
50:21You're either going to need him to rush for like 20 touchdowns or something or more yards, like getting closer to the
50:291,500, 1,600 yards if he's not going to do.
50:31I guess if he has closer to 50 receptions, like you're saying, and another couple more touchdowns, like 20 touchdowns total, because
50:39that year James Cook only had 18, and he finished as a running back eight.
50:43That's my biggest concern. I think there's nothing wrong with drafting Hampton where he's going.
50:48I think you're kind of drafting him at a safe spot where he's not going to kill you.
50:54I don't see a world where if he doesn't get hurt, he's not a very solid running back one.
51:00I just think his upside to get into that tier with Bijan and Gibbs is difficult.
51:06I definitely think he could outscore Gentry. That's for sure.
51:09Like when you're saying you're going to draft him over Gentry, I don't hate that in redraft.
51:14And I think he just has to have a good season to be a top five dynasty running back.
51:20Like Gibbs and Bijan are set at the top as one, two.
51:24Jeremiah Love might start slow because of that injury.
51:27Gentry is also dealing with an injury. So between those five guys, you're talking about – damn, my eyes are killing me right now.
51:35Sorry. You're talking about that Hampton has a pretty solid space there.
51:39I think he's definitely – in a redraft, if he's your running back one, you feel very secure.
51:45In dynasty, like in a best ball or whatever, if he's your number one, do you feel just as safe?
51:51Like you feel as confident? Okay. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's where I defer a little bit.
51:57I mean, that year too that we're talking about with James Cook, he only had 1,000 yards on the ground, right?
52:04And he had receiving-wise, he added another 258 on those 38 catches.
52:08So like I said, like the 1,300 yards, that's an extra 30 points.
52:12And then if he has an extra 10 catches on top of that, that gets you another 40 points.
52:18Like it's there. It's definitely there. And I think that's probably – I think that's probably a median outcome.
52:24Like I don't think going above 1,300 rushing yards is crazy.
52:28Like when we're talking about a Mike McDaniel-led offense with the talent that I think Omari and Hampton has, I think the sky's the limit.
52:36I think he could legitimately rush for 1,500 yards.
52:39That feels like a more ceiling outcome to me.
52:42But if you put that on wax with 16 touchdowns on top of that, top three is definitely in the cards, I feel like.
52:49Yeah, I mean, that's what it takes to be a top three.
52:53You need all of it, right? Like A-Chan in his best year last year had 1,300 yards and had 67 receptions for another almost 500 yards.
53:02But he only had 12 touchdowns. So he finished as the running back five in half PPR format.
53:08So, yeah, I mean, it takes everything. You need double-digit rushing touchdowns.
53:11You need a handful plus more of receiving touchdowns.
53:14And you need those 1,200, 1,300 yards receiving. Sorry, not receiving.
53:18We're not talking about CMC here. We're talking about Hampton rushing and then the 500 or so receiving yards.
53:24So the receiving game is where I think it's the hardest for me to get to that top ceiling.
53:30But I love Hampton, and I have him in a few leagues.
53:34So that would be awesome. I almost made the charges.
53:37One of my hot takes is they're just going to be overall disappointing because the hype is so high for everybody that
53:45it's hard for me to see it happen. Everybody's putting so much on McDaniel, and I don't disagree that he's a great
53:52offensive coordinator, better than a head coach. I just – I guess I'm not there on that full hype train.
53:58But I don't hate it. Okay. That's fair. That's fair.
54:01All right, man. I'm excited to hear this last one, which is your spiciest of them all.
54:07Yeah. So I'm thinking if Clark Cousins or Mendoza – like in the time when Mendoza takes over, he's decent enough.
54:14I think that Brock Bowers breaks the all-time fantasy tight end scoring record.
54:18So I think he's going to put up the most tight end points that anybody has in fantasy ever.
54:24I don't really know exactly where that one – who that is.
54:28I'm guessing it's probably – It's Trey McBride, right?
54:31Trey McBride last year, was it? Yeah. Breaks the all-time fantasy scoring record for tight ends.
54:36Yes. So we pretty much just have it happen back to back.
54:40I think Brock Bowers is just as good, if not better of an elite talent.
54:45So I don't think Brock Bowers is just going to be finished as a tight end one.
54:50I think he's going to give us the greatest season by a tight end we've ever seen.
54:56That's, I think, significantly hotter than just projecting him as the tight end one because I think it's either him, McBride, or
55:03maybe like one other guy that you would put there.
55:06But I think he's being drafted as the second – right there with McBride as the 17th overall pick.
55:13So he's squarely in the second and a half, like right there, round.
55:17So I think people have already forgotten how ridiculous Bowers' rookie season was, right?
55:21He had 153 targets, 112 receptions, 1,200 yards almost, and five touchdowns.
55:25He was scoring 15.5 PPR points per game. And those 112 catchers were an NFL rookie record regardless of position, right?
55:32Him and neighbors were kind of like battling back and forth with most rookie receptions that year.
55:38And he broke that. Now he had his knee injury, right?
55:41It kind of curtailed that. Geno Smith did not play well.
55:45I think Kirk Cousins, we saw what he did kind of with Kyle Pitts last year and what he did for him.
55:52So I don't think there's any reason that he can't.
55:55The biggest thing will be the touchdowns if the offense can be good enough to get into an area.
56:01But the 2025 game, his numbers fell off. But he had an injured PCL, which he kind of tried to play through.
56:08I think it would have been better if the Raiders kind of just shut him down.
56:14But even playing compromise, he was averaging 14.7 PPR points per game, which was third among tight ends.
56:19So even with a hurt knee, he was still able to be one of the top tight ends.
56:25And so now you have to look at what's changed, right?
56:29They hired Clint Kubiak, who we loved in Seattle, what he did there with JSN.
56:34Like, he has no JSN. I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, Bowers is that sort of just best player, best receiver.
56:41And no established wide receiver competition, right? So Bowers is going to have to be the guy just because there is nobody else.
56:48They drafted Fernando Mendoza, who for fantasy we don't love.
56:52But I think he can be a decent NFL quarterback.
56:55Like, if you tell me in five years that Fernando Mendoza is like Jared Goff, I wouldn't be super surprised.
57:01Like, he does have the qualities and the ability to play quarterback at the NFL to some extent.
57:07So I think if Clint Kubiak feeds him 165 to 175 targets, right?
57:11Like, that would be crazy. But that would be what would happen in a situation where you're clearly the best receiving option
57:18and you have nobody else to, right? He could get to like 125, 130 targets, 1,400, 1,500 yards, 10 to 12 touchdowns.
57:26It's outrageous for a tight end, but the target environment makes it conceivable.
57:30Like, if you get to the end of the season and that happens, I don't think anybody would be like, oh, my God, how could this have happened?
57:39Like, I can't believe you've done this type of sort of situation.
57:43Like, I think it's very possible. And I think the benchmark is Trey McBride just produced 126 receptions with 1,200 yards, 11
57:50touchdowns last year and finished as the fourth highest scoring pass catcher.
57:54Right. So that's if you Trey McBride was a wide receiver, he would be the wide receiver for overall.
58:00Right. So I think it's definitely within Bowers ability if the quarterback play can stay consistent enough.
58:06So I would stop comparing Brock Bowers to tight ends.
58:09I'm comparing him to wide receivers. If this dude gets 165 targets in Klink Kubiak's offense, we're talking about a tight end
58:16putting up wide receiver one overall numbers. And I don't think we're and I think we're about to see the greatest tight end season ever for fantasy.
58:25I am so in on this. So in on this.
58:28In fact. In fact, I don't even think that's a hot take, Jose.
58:32Oh, damn. Because when I was working on my third hot take, I was like, what?
58:37What do I really believe in this year? I really believe in Brock Bowers.
58:42I was like, Brock Bowers, tight end one on the year.
58:45That's not that's not spicy. Come on, bro. Like you could do better than that.
58:50And I was like, OK, OK, OK, fine. Brock Bowers.
58:54Breaks the tight end record for receptions. No, that's not spicy.
58:57Trey McBride just did that. Like he's still going as a tight end one.
59:02Like that's not good enough, J-Mac. What are you going to do here?
59:06Fine. I got it. Brock Bowers, the first tight end ever to win the triple crown.
59:11Jose just laid out the argument. I got goosebumps as he was doing it.
59:16We're not looking at Brock Bowers like a tight end.
59:19We're looking at him like a wide receiver. Like he said in the Clint Kubiak offense, what we saw him do his
59:26rookie year, what we forgot that he could do his sophomore year until he came back from the ACL injury and then
59:33dominated, making one hand catches in the end zone.
59:36Brock Bowers is a legitimate weapon. He is the next Gronk, the next Travis Kelsey, whatever you want to say.
59:43He might even be better than all of them.
59:46I legitimately think he is going to pace 160 targets in his offense because who the hell are they going to throw
59:53the ball to other than Brock Bowers? If Ashton Gentry doesn't have an ankle to stand on and we have Trey Tucker
60:00and Jalen Naylor lining up with Brock Bowers, do you really think Kirk Cousins is going to be looking at either one
60:07of those guys or he's going to be like, I'm just going to throw it to that big guy that runs fast and catches the ball?
60:15Give me Brock Bowers with 140 receptions. Give me 1,500, 1,600 yards.
60:19Give me 18 touchdowns. Like Jose said, this is going to be the greatest tight end season we've ever seen.
60:26And if you need any motivation, go watch Kyle Pitts' three touchdown game last year.
60:31Who was throwing the rock to Kyle Pitts? Kirk mother to chains.
60:35Okay, let's go, Kirk O'Chains. Let's get Brock Bowers to the first tight end ever to win the triple crown.
60:41Boom. That's a hot take, Jose. That's how you do it.
60:45I mean, that's funny. That's kind of one of the things I guess that can happen when we don't share these with
60:52each other, but it's lockstep in there. But I think it makes a lot of sense.
60:57And my biggest concern about making that my hot take was just like what happens when Mendoza takes over?
61:03Because I think even if Kirk Cousins is playing well, I think he's getting benched.
61:08Like I think they want to see Mendoza like Drake May, like after five, six.
61:13It just depends how many games and how good is Mendoza when he comes in.
61:18And if he comes in there and looks like a deer in headlights and is complete garbage, then I think no matter
61:25how good Brock Bowers is, he can have 80% target share.
61:28Like it's just not going to matter if Mendoza goes in there and is absolute stinking garbage or just not a middle
61:36to top end quarterback, which obviously I don't think that's what people are expecting.
61:40But if he can just go in there and be decent enough, I think it could still happen.
61:46That was my biggest reservation with this hot take, which is like what happens when the quarterback change happens.
61:52But, you know, I'm going to put my, you know, my faith in Mr.
61:57Mendoza there that he can get it done and just know, hey, like that ball dude running down the middle of the
62:04field that seems to just be open every single play.
62:07Let me just throw him the ball every time.
62:10Like just throw him like Jamar Chase, 15 targets, 20 targets.
62:14Like why not? Like that dude's always open. Like just give him the ball and, you know, things will work out for you.
62:21I think, I think you're right, man. I think, I don't know.
62:25Like is if Brock Bowers does have this kind of season and the radars are actually like somewhat decent, like, is it
62:32crazy to think Kirk Cousins just plays the whole season?
62:35We already know that they want Fernando Mendoza to sit.
62:39At least that's what's coming from Tom Brady at the top who is, you know, management, right?
62:44Like I think that it, it's possible if he plays this well, that he could just be the quarterback all season for them.
62:52Yeah, I think it would have to be like a heater.
62:55Like it'd have to be like a very, like if they have any sort of 500 record, I think they're making the
63:02switch because then they're also thinking, hey, if we get a top five pick, maybe we're in the Jeremiah Smith conversation sweepstakes
63:09or what's that guy Coleman or what's the other wide receivers getting a lot?
63:14Yeah. So maybe they're thinking, hey, like if we're anywhere near 500, we still want to be bad enough to be in
63:21the top five so we can, you know, top seven to select one of these guys.
63:26And then we can play Mendoza with his wide receiver and Browers of the future.
63:31Right. Like I think that's where the Raiders mind would be.
63:35But yeah, I mean, if, if it's something like seven and oh, right, you're leading the division, like you can't make a
63:42change that like you, this could be a lightning in a bottle sort of situation.
63:47It's hard to see that with their old line, their defense and, you know, the no wide receivers, but you never know
63:54where the things have happened in the NFL. So I definitely think that cousins would have to have one of those kind
64:01of, you know, incredible runs to not get pulled because I think the moment that it's a little bit shaky and, you know, maybe two, three losses happen.
64:10They're definitely gonna be like, all right, let's, let's find out what we got in Mendoza to make sure that he's, you
64:17know, ready and going to be ready for next season.
64:20Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. Well, even if Mendoza comes in, let's, like you said, hope that he can return on the promise
64:28that he was at the one Oh one of the 2026 NFL draft.
64:32All right, man, we did it. We did it.
64:35Some hot takes. All of our, all of our takes were the exactly the same.
64:40Our first ones were very pointed at each other.
64:43Our second ones were a top three wide receiver and our third ones were even closer together.
64:48Brock Bowers just being a dog. Yeah. I mean, we, I don't know why, why was your jets one pointed at me?
64:55That, that wasn't. I don't know. Cause you hate the jets.
64:59I don't hate the jets. I don't even think about the jets.
65:03The jets think about me more than I think about the jets.
65:07Exactly. I mean, I have, I have, I have a ton of love for the city of New York and that stadium.
65:14I mean, Spain just won a world cup there.
65:17So I love New York. Give me, give me their shitty Astro turf that kills their players all day, whatever it needs to be.
65:24But yeah, man, I, it was a lot of fun.
65:28It was funny, you know, glad we kind of synced up on that last one.
65:32That makes it a, you know, Hey, we got the same mind, you know, brain wave here.
65:38Let's go. Let's go. I guess that's why we're co-hosts, huh?
65:42I think so. All right, man. Let's hit the outro here.
65:45That was too fun. Well, I hope you have a good birthday.
65:49I hope you enjoy the ballers live show. Say what's up to the ballers for me.
65:54I'm sure I'm going to hear you on the, the, the pod, the mail drop asking questions, the mailbag.
66:00That's what it's called. Nailed it. Yeah, man, it should be a lot of fun.
66:05Those shows are always great. So, you know, it's their hometown.
66:09So they got a lot of cool stuff planned.
66:12They said, so it's always a great time. Yeah.
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