The FF Dynasty - 6 Players to Let Your IDIOT Leaguemates Draft
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47 min
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Aug 18, 2026
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Tue, August 18, 2026
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Chuba HubbardColston LovelandJonathon BrooksTyler WarrenA.J. BrownBrian Thomas Jr.Chris RodriguezDerrick HenryJavonte WilliamsJeremiyah LoveJustin JeffersonParker WashingtonTank Bigsby
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A.J. Brown
PositiveProjection8:40
Chev has moved AJ Brown ahead of Justin Jefferson in redraft rankings, projecting a 'renaissance season' for Brown. He anticipates Brown will benefit from a high-volume role, potentially reaching 160-plus targets, and views him as a safer, more reliable fantasy asset than Jefferson given the current Vikings' offensive outlook.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
PositiveValue45:29
Applepay. Apply is fading Brian Thomas Jr. at his 64th overall ADP, preferring players like Jameson Williams, Tee Higgins, and even DJ Moore, citing concerns about target competition from Parker Washington and Brent Strange.
Insight pageChris Rodriguez
PositiveRole57:38
Applepay. Apply views Chris Rodriguez as a significant part of the Jaguars' backfield, specifically projecting him to handle short-yardage and goal-line work.
Insight pageChuba Hubbard
NegativeUsage43:43
Applepay identifies Chuba Hubbard as one of the most inefficient running backs in the league regarding pass-catching efficiency and yards per reception, despite his 43 receptions in 2024.
Insight pageNegativeValue65:44
Chuba Hubbard is a fade at his current ADP because he requires massive volume to be efficient, and the Panthers' offensive line is currently dealing with multiple injuries, making the situation a 'hard avoid'.
Insight pageColston Loveland
NegativeValue30:07
Chev is fading Colston Loveland at his current TE3 ADP, arguing that he is being drafted at his absolute ceiling. Chev prefers taking established wide receivers like Jaylen Waddle or DeVonta Smith in that range, or waiting later to draft tight ends like Tyler Warren who are the unquestioned number one options in their respective offenses.
Insight pageNegativeValue36:45
Despite strong production from weeks 9-18 last season, Applepay. Apply is fading Loveland at his current TE3 ADP, arguing that drafters can build a better overall team by going in a different direction in the fourth round.
Insight pageDerrick Henry
PositiveValue21:38
Jeremiah prefers drafting Derrick Henry over Jeremiah Love in the third round, viewing Henry as a known, reliable commodity compared to the speculative nature of Love's rookie role and the Cardinals' offensive environment.
Insight pageJavonte Williams
NegativeUsage43:49
Applepay classifies Javonte Williams as one of the most inefficient running backs in the league in terms of pass-catching efficiency and yards per reception.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
NegativeValue20:03
Jeremiah is fading Jeremiah Love at his current RB13/14 ADP, preferring to wait until the middle of the third round to consider him. He highlights concerns regarding the Cardinals' low projected scoring totals and the presence of Tyler Allgeier, who has consistently commanded red-zone touches, as factors that could limit Love's ceiling.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
PositiveRole43:24
Applepay prefers Jonathan Brooks over Chuba Hubbard in scenarios requiring running back involvement in the passing game, citing the need to see what Brooks can contribute once the offensive line situation stabilizes.
Insight pagePositiveProjection73:25
Applepay. Apply prefers Jonathan Brooks over Chuba Hubbard, noting that Brooks is the preferred option if the Panthers need to utilize running backs in the passing game.
Insight pageJustin Jefferson
NegativeValue2:15
Chev is fading Justin Jefferson at his current WR6 ADP due to concerns over the Vikings' quarterback situation, specifically the potential for JJ McCarthy to struggle or take over the starting job. Despite acknowledging Jefferson's Hall of Fame talent, Chev prefers drafting CeeDee Lamb, De'Von Achane, Chase Brown, or Saquon Barkley in that range, citing the risk of a subpar environment derailing his production.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveBreakout51:49
Applepay. Apply is highly confident in Parker Washington's role in the Jaguars offense, noting he has already jumped Brian Thomas Jr. in recent team usage and is a primary target for the season.
Insight pageTank Bigsby
NegativeUsage52:17
Applepay. Apply is fading Tank Bigsby (referred to as Basel Tootin) due to an even split with Chris Rodriguez in camp and the emergence of LaQuinn Allen on third downs, which threatens his projected workload.
Insight pageTyler Warren
NegativeSleeper35:16
Chev highlights Tyler Warren as a superior value compared to Colston Loveland, noting that Warren is the unquestioned number one tight end in his offense and can be drafted rounds later, providing a safer investment without the speculative risk.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout40:42
Applepay. Apply is extremely bullish on Tyler Warren, projecting him to potentially outscore Brock Bowers and serve as the TE1 in the Colts offense, which is expected to funnel through Jonathan Taylor and Warren.
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Episode Transcript
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0:54Today we've got some fades or players. We are not drafting at their current ADP and rather some other options that you would take around that area.
1:03So this is always a fun one because it gets people the most wild up.
1:08But hey, it's not saying that you hate these people, but I'm going to explain a rationale of why I would rather have somebody else in this area.
1:17And that's what makes fantasy world go round. So we've got Chevrolet.
1:21We've got Jeremiah myself hosting this one. Let's kick it right off.
1:25Let's go right over to Chev and tell me your first fade or player you are not agreeing with their ADP currently, Chev.
1:32I'm going to tell you and I'm going to say it.
1:35I'm going to say it right now. I am not the click commander on one Justin Jefferson.
1:41So in spite of him having a really cool first name and being the all time leader in yards per game through
1:48the first however many seasons of his career, I am not bullish on this situation.
1:53I we've seen it go left. He played all 17 games finished the wide receiver 24.
1:58I don't I here's here's the here's the thought exercise.
2:01I want you guys to do if JJ McCarthy was absolutely putrid for him and Kyler Murray isn't the prince who was
2:08promised and he's just marginally better than JJ McCarthy.
2:11He's he's gotten there and his fantasy utility has come because of his legs, not because he's a prolific passer.
2:18So if it's just marginally better than JJ McCarthy, what are we looking at?
2:22He's going off the board of wide receiver six.
2:25I would much rather you guys have seen and heard me screaming from the rooftops about Devon H and I think he could do something special this year.
2:34He's going off board of 201 Chase Brown elite player in an elite offense much rather.
2:39Now the ceiling for Justin Jefferson is wide receiver one overall, and I that that's there.
2:44I don't think even and here's my point. Even with some all time greats Larry Fitzgerald Deandre Hopkins AJ Green.
2:51All these guys have been derailed by subpar environments and maybe we underrated what Sam Darnold meant it well.
2:57We definitely underrated. Yeah, there's no maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
3:00Sorry. But the point being I would much rather I'd much rather click the button on CD lamb.
3:06I'd much rather click the button on Devon H and I'd much rather click the button on Chase Brown.
3:12Hmm. Once I get to about 15 where it's like him or a Mario on Hampton.
3:17I'm still like it's it's a toss up. He's behind Saquon.
3:21I fully believe Saquon is going to return back to return back to 2024 Saquon breaking off explosive runs health of healthy offensive line.
3:29It's kind of the last dance or Lane Johnson as he's alluded to.
3:33So those are all guys in this range that I would much rather have so him coming off the board the wire.
3:40Like it's it's not Justin Jefferson. I'm not saying Justin Jefferson is not he's he's been transcendent with literally every other quarterback except Kyler Murray.
3:48I mean except for JJ McCarthy with Kyler Murray.
3:51If it's not if he's not fully dialed in or for some reason they just decide to hand it, you know, give the keys to JJ McCarthy.
3:59We've seen that go left. So there's just too many questions and I just don't want to mess my first round pickup.
4:07And that sounds crazy to say, but I'm just not great.
4:10I'm not bullish on this situation at all. So first guy Justin Jefferson.
4:14It's a hot start. It's a hot start. Can't wait for everybody to say oh just fade everything the guy with the gray beard says.
4:22So well look it's it's you know, I could I could see why it's certainly a high risk high reward situation.
4:29It would seem because there's a lot of things up in the air.
4:33Jeremiah did you want to chime in here? Yeah, the undercurrent to all this too is we're getting some reports about JJ
4:40McCarthy playing a little bit better or closer nearer to somebody like Kyler Murray.
4:45Maybe Kyler Murray isn't running away from the job, but then we hear the business aspect of the game where hey, it's
4:52definitely going to be Kyler Murray and you have with just Jefferson anywhere from 17 to 21 fancy points per game his
4:59first five seasons and then last year when the tank.
5:02So anything that we hear about JJ McCarthy, it brings up so those old memories for me.
5:08I do have Justin Jefferson at 12 overall. I do have Malik neighbors ahead of him at 10, which I don't think many people are there yet.
5:16Jonathan Taylor at 11, but neck and neck with AJ Brown.
5:20So I'd be curious chef. Do you have AJ Brown ahead of Justin Jefferson even because I have them neck and neck
5:27and I deliberated the two of them. I see the Hall of Fame player returning to form.
5:32I see Jordan Addison having his first thousand yard receiving season, but this does go to the shitter in the event that it is JJ McCarthy.
5:41So it it is suffice to say I know for you, you've been consistent in the fact that you're not all the
5:48way back on the Kyler Murray bus. So is there part of this too in like when you accordion out that you're
5:55out on the Kyler Murray business overall and that's pushing upflow effect down on somebody like Justin Jefferson.
6:01That's that's exactly it. It's not that again, we have too much empirical evidence that Justin Jefferson is a Hall of Fame player.
6:08And again, there are spats and spouts or bouts in players careers where you just have down seasons.
6:14It's just not it. I mean, Larry Fitzgerald second all time receiving yards.
6:18What the fuck was he doing when John Skelton was his quarterback?
6:22Yeah, like I mean seriously guys. I mean in a big part of that was him.
6:27You know, he his his late career revival came with Bruce Arians moved into the slot and he dominated there as a
6:34power slot for the for a few years. But I think KOC if he can get if he gets this thing, if
6:41he gets it dialed in and gets it dead to rights, then Justin Jefferson pays off and I look like an idiot
6:48and I kind of want to look like an idiot because I like Justin Jefferson.
6:53But at this point, I have way less questions about everybody else.
6:57You can say, oh, well, Devon H is going to be on the worst offensive football.
7:02Who are they going to give the ball to?
7:05Who are they going to give the ball to?
7:08And we've seen, like I said, you can go back to D hop.
7:12He went wide receiver 31 year and then came back and finished as a wide receiver one overall.
7:18But there was an upgraded quarterback. I'm not certain that this is an empirical upgrade to make it to where he gets
7:25back to where he where we're used to him performing.
7:28And I'm I feel a lot better about other players in this range.
7:32And as we were talking, Jeremiah, I was like, man, do I feel more safe about AJ Brown scoring more fantasy points than Justin Jefferson this year?
7:41Absolutely. I feel like we're about to get the renaissance season, like what Saquon got when he went to Philly.
7:47AJ Brown's about to get from the New England Patriots.
7:51He gets reunited with Mike Rabel, who you could see was visibly distraught when he got traded on draft night.
7:57And I think he's in line for 160 plus targets.
8:00And that's all I've ever wanted for AJ Brown, because I think he's one of the best receivers in the league.
8:07So I have now moved AJ Brown ahead of Justin Jefferson and redraft.
8:11Now, y'all get real mad about that. I would you know, again, I think you pointed out a good point, Jeremiah, and
8:18then we'll move on of just she have not being sold on Kyler Murray.
8:23And that's been laid out on the dynasty side of things for a long time, which I don't I can't necessarily put
8:30a crazy argument to what I can say is I'm I'm on a different timeline where I'm seeing Kyler Murray is lights.
8:37It's light years ahead of JJ McCarthy and JJ McCarthy doesn't look comfortable at all in his decision making.
8:43And that's what you could see was the problem last year.
8:47I think Kyler is a talented player. How bad does he want it?
8:51Does he want to be great? That's really and like who has brought him along to coach him as and be in
8:58a good environment as a quarterback or as a head coach or an OC?
9:02Really, really nobody. So I think that there is a very I think if if this passing offense was so bad last
9:09year that I think if if Kyler can just take this back to like a mid pack passing attack that I think it writes the ship a lot.
9:18Now, that doesn't mean that it doesn't go to a bunch of different players and not just hyper focus on Jefferson Jefferson.
9:25But I think Kyler Murray's life is going to be a lot easier if he just does hyper like it could be
9:32kind of like an a chance situation where obviously there's a whole bunch of better players.
9:38But like he's just going to pump it to Justin Jefferson.
9:41So I understand what you're saying and I kind of agree with it for the most part.
9:47I do see an outcome, though, where I do kind of like Kyler going there and get another shot.
9:53And I think he does improve this offense, even if he is what exactly what we have seen from Kyler over the last few years.
10:01There has been times where he's been really accurate, really decisive, really tough to beat.
10:06And it's just that that that that lore has faded.
10:09But the Cardinals are also one of we know we've been talking about how disastrous that organization is for a long time.
10:16Maybe this is the get right or maybe it's just more of the same, but I can agree and redraft.
10:22This is a high upside and and the seal that the floor could be, you know, one.
10:28Right. Right. So. All right. Jeremiah, hit me with your first fade here.
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11:38I think a big issue with what's coming out of the quarterback competition is how good the Vikings defense is.
11:45So I'll be very curious to see the Vikings at home versus the Packers against a Micah Parsons-less defense.
11:51But we will hold the phone. And I like the conviction that you have there, Chev.
11:56Funny enough, Chev, no one can claim that we're narcissists because you're fading a Justin and I am fading a Jeremiah.
12:03All right. Jeremiah Love. In the Draft Sharks ranks, he goes RB 13, 29 overall.
12:07They have some source ADP in the redraft streets.
12:10Jer source, I have him 30 overall. RB 14.
12:13An issue I have is the fact that Tyler Algier, I've been saying it from the jump, red zone touches last three seasons, 37, 26, 33.
12:22It's not some woman's size. Those are just red zone touches for Tyler Algier.
12:26We also have, and my contention is if you can take carries away from B.
12:31John Robinson, you can certainly take it away from a rookie in Jeremiah Love.
12:35For Vegas, and some people will say, well, don't just say Vegas.
12:39Say, depending on what book you're shopping. But you see the scoring totals being low across the board, bottom five, 32nd overall in a lot of sports books.
12:48So do that with that information what you will.
12:51I just have him as a fade. I have guys like Kenneth Walker ahead, Zay Flowers in the Dynasty Street.
12:58So here's just a shift around Derrick Henry, three spots ahead of Jeremiah Love.
13:02I want him absolutely in round three. So early round three.
13:06So it's about mid round three where I start being enticed by somebody like Jordan Love or Jeremiah Love.
13:12It's just I don't get the sense to want to take him in the first round, of course.
13:18Definitely not in the second. Third is where it becomes palatable.
13:21I'm getting value. I don't think he'll fall into the fourth.
13:25So that's where I actually have him parked in the middle of the third.
13:29But I'm more inclined to take players in this range, a Carnell Tate, a Chris Olave, especially depending on team build.
13:36Jeff mentioned if you get early round two Chase Brown, you're not going to feel the need to go and get an RB in round three.
13:44So depending on how you build things, you could go maybe it's A.J.
13:48Brown and Chase Brown. Yeah. And then you're not really feeling in a position like you need to go Jeremiah Love.
13:55So a fade for me in the redraft streets early on.
13:59I hate to say it as much as I love the namesake.
14:03It's Jeremiah Love. He's a fade for me. Yeah.
14:05I think we kind of talked about on that on the backfields that we that we hate a little bit here, just
14:12because there's just a lot of unknown of exactly what the Cardinals are going to be.
14:18I don't think there's any doubt that Love is going to be a good player, but like even if the runout is
14:25what we saw from Ashton Gentry last year, that's not necessarily, which I don't think I don't know that it can be any better than that.
14:33We shall see, though. Maybe the receiving upside is just so crazy and maybe this offense is better than we think.
14:40But it just to me, that's the return on investment there.
14:43And it's no knock on Love, just like it's no knock on Jefferson.
14:48But like you were talking about Derrick Henry. It's Derrick Henry all day, every day in that area for me.
14:54Like I'm just in redraft, like right there that to me, that's not the spot to take the risk of of what Jeremiah Love could be.
15:02I'm just going to take what I know in Derrick Henry.
15:06Right. I mean, it's unless it bricks, unless Derrick Henry bricks, which he hasn't bricked in a very, very long time, you're
15:13you're you can be speculative and say, well, just be the guy that wants to be able to say, I told you so.
15:20But that just doesn't make a ton of sense.
15:23You're not going to. I mean, you know, if you if you decide to commit down that path, then you're setting yourself
15:30up for a bunch of not fun Sundays when you see Tyler Algier just tried and plotting along boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, right inside.
15:38You know, and getting all these inside the five carries is it's not going to be great.
15:44So even B. John Robinson, 976 yards is rookie.
15:47214 carries, 976 yards is rookie year. And a lot of that was Arthur Arthur bin Laden just taking him off the field.
15:54We famously remember the active zero that he gave us in the fantasy playoffs.
15:59So I'm with you 100 percent. I think eventually if the new head coach can coach, we will see a dynamic run
16:06game because he just comes from a bunch of people who predicate on the run game.
16:11I know why Jeremiah Love was a draft pick for them.
16:14And I think it's a good draft pick overall, especially for the division that they play in.
16:20If if the Cardinals can kind of turn this tide a little bit, I just did want to point out, like you
16:27mentioned a Chan and people being like, well, he's going to be on a shitty offense.
16:32Why would we draft him? And but your point was, who else are they going to give it to in the Cardinals offense?
16:39You can give it to Marv. You can give it to Michael Wilson.
16:44You can give it to Trey McBride and you can give it to Algier potentially.
16:48And maybe even one of the other running backs.
16:51If I don't know who's going to be if Connor is going to be on the team or fence is going to be on the team.
17:00Regardless in Miami, the difference is. So you just to be clear that, you know, nobody's talking out of both sides of their mouth.
17:07Like there isn't an established backup and there isn't an established pecking order of offense.
17:12So and in the first three rounds for look in Vegas, isn't the full gospel.
17:17Oh, my God. It's a good directionally thing to follow.
17:20Does it stand to reason if the Cardinals are going to be dead last or near dead last, depending on the sports
17:27book that you go for, for points per game or point totals and scoring in 2026?
17:32Does it really make sense logically at all that you would want both McBride and Jeremiah Love for the accounting stats in fantasy football?
17:40So that's even a problem there. There's even more traffic.
17:43There is no tight end or there's no more Jalen Waddle there with somebody like Devon Achan.
17:49There's nobody who's out there who's going to saturate all of the carries, all the targets, all the dump offs.
17:55It's Devon Achan as you were talking about, Shav.
17:58Yeah. All right. Shav, next fade. Who we got?
18:01Who is somebody you're not touching at ADP, but you want to click some other guys around them?
18:07I, too, have not been the click commander on one Colston Love.
18:11You're just, are you trolling everybody with this episode?
18:14Is that what you're saying? Now, cue the guy who said, I had to turn it off when he said that he wasn't going to draft Colston Loveland.
18:23But. And then proceeded to listen to the rest of the episode.
18:26And then proceeded to just leave, leave, leave. Also wonderful comments that help the algorithm on YouTube.
18:32So, tied in, coming off the board, tied in three right now.
18:36Now, I feel like we're drafting him at a ceiling.
18:39Is there a world where he outscores Brock Bowers this year with Brock Bowers fully healthy?
18:44No, but I mean, but that would be, you know, that would be if you were drafting him in front of Brock
18:51Bowers, but you're drafting him after because you think that he's the next best option after McBride and Bowers.
18:57My, my, the point, the point that I'm going to, I'm going to get there.
19:02I'm going to get there. Let me, let me, now I've just, I've just, I've started to, I've started to season the meat a little bit.
19:10All right. Now we're going to put it, now we're going to put it on the grill.
19:16All right. There's no world where he outscores Brock Bowers or Trey McBride.
19:20Now he's the third tight end off the board and his ceiling could be tight end three.
19:26Now, if you wait a few, you can wait a few rounds.
19:29And if you like what's going on here. So no tight end premium.
19:34Are we going Jalen Waddle or Colston Loveland? Oh, Waddle.
19:37Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, I can keep, I can, I, Devonta Smith or Colston Loveland.
19:42Yeah. I would rather have Devonta Smith. Waddle. I, I, I think so.
19:46Loveland or Waddle. I could, I could make a case for either of, of potential positional advantage, but, but tell me, tell me.
19:54You have to think about who's saying this right now about Jalen Waddle.
19:58Yeah, no, I'm with you. I'm with you. T Higgins, Colston Loveland.
20:02I mean, I think I could go. I could go Loveland there.
20:05So we think Colston Loveland is going to be greater than sign 15 points a game.
20:11I think he's not tight end premium. I think he, I think there's potential to get there and that's what you're swinging.
20:18You're swinging here. We get there. But we know for a fact that if T Higgins is healthy, he's going to be
20:25between 15 and 18 points a game. So my point being is that there's a lot of speculation that you have to,
20:32that you have to assume everything breaks right for Colston Loveland to pay off this ADP.
20:37And we've seen, we have proof of concept for God's sake, Terry McLaurin's coming off the board, coming off the board almost around after, after Colston Loveland.
20:46And we all expect him to bounce back to wide receiver, eight to 12, somewhere in there could go higher.
20:52Could be, you know, it could be stable, but I just don't like this level of risk.
20:57And if we're taking a young tight end and taking a bet on a young tight end, why not take a bet
21:05on a young tight end that we for sure know is going to be the number one in his offense?
21:11And you could, you could go later and you could go Tyler Warren around later.
21:16And I know, Hey, Phil, Hey, Phil, listen, buddy, you can say whatever you want, but guess what?
21:22Tyler Warren's coming off the board around later, four Oh seven versus five Oh six.
21:26And he is the unquestioned number one. We just got word.
21:30Alec Pierce received another PRP injection in his left ankle.
21:33Does that sound good? No, he's real public. So on top of all these things, you can get called.
21:39You can get Tyler Warren around later. You can get, you can get the, he who shall not be named of the cheese even later than yet.
21:48Yeah. I'm not allowed to say his name guys.
21:51Sorry. Sorry. I've worn out my welcome with the whole, you know, so there's just so many safer, safer clicks that I
21:58don't have to make a speculative, a speculative add on and click the button and be like, well, I hope this works out.
22:05Look, so I know that weeks nine to 18, he was second behind second behind Trey McBride in total fantasy points, fifth and fantasy points per game.
22:14But I just can't get behind the ceiling outcome.
22:17Probably tight end. Probably tight end three. And we're drafting him at tight end three.
22:22And you could just, you could build out a much better team.
22:26If we, if we just go in a different direction in the fourth round.
22:30So I understand you guys are going to be very upset about this and I don't care.
22:36I'm trying to save you from yourself. Hit us in the comments.
22:39Explain why not just you're an idiot. Tell us why and how.
22:43And that's how this becomes productive. When you said hit him in the comments for a hot second, the way you started
22:50that word, I just thought that was going in a different direction.
22:54That's all. What I, what I will say is I would rather dress like if I have, if everything goes the way
23:01I want it to go, I would, I would rather draft Devonta Smith and then Tyler Warren for me personally, because I
23:08think the outcome is, can be very similar to what Loveland can do.
23:12I don't really have a problem with you going either way and kind of wish casting of what that could be.
23:19The reason I don't mind it in, in Chicago is just because I do, if the whole, if, if, if Williams, if
23:26Caleb takes a step forward, then I don't think there's really anything to worry about.
23:31Everything's going to be fine and he's not going to kill you.
23:35Maybe he doesn't get to the ceiling ceiling, but each week he's going to be a semi advantage in the lineup against most people.
23:43But I can understand where you're coming from. I'm like, you know, if Tucker craft can, can be right and be healthy, he's a couple of rounds later.
23:52If Fannin could be healthy and be right and have an okay quarterback, he could produce similar numbers, right?
23:58Kyle pits, even Sam Laporta, even. So there are some options or you could kind of go, if you, if I think
24:05if you want, if you value the tight end position, I get the shot here and you're trying to say, Hey, I'm
24:12trying to get the positional advantage here. If not, I think there's a lot of other options that I could go and
24:19I under, I can, I can understand where you're coming from, but I know people aren't going to like it.
24:25So, Oh yeah. I'm fully aware, but sometimes you got to take your friend's keys and, or stop him from that one,
24:33that one chick that has an Adam's apple at the bar.
24:36You just want to mess around with that. Jeremiah, anything else before we move on to your next fade?
24:42This is classic tier-based drafting, especially the argument for Tyler Warren is very strong.
24:47I contend who hot take Tyler Warren will outscore Brock Bowers this season.
24:51So, you know, yeah. Outscore Brock Bowers. Yes. He'll be the tight end one in the Colts offense.
24:57The Colts offense picks up right where they left off last year.
25:01Guess who's out? Michael Pittman Jr. Alec Pierce, slow on the uptake.
25:04And then Josh Downs, and that's injury wise. Alec Pierce, slow on the uptake.
25:09Josh Downs seems to be okay, but why would this offense not funnel through?
25:13You want truncated offenses for tight ends. Why is it not going to run through Jonathan Taylor and Tyler Warren?
25:20I'm going to, every report deems Daniel Jones is back.
25:23They were just a shade of what they were.
25:26The old school greatest show on turf, like the Rams last year.
25:30If they're just anything like that. And they were putting up crazy offensive numbers for a while.
25:35And that's why you're saying that. Yeah. So I'm, I'm all there.
25:39I don't think it's sacrilege, but again, to that point, I'm bullish enough there.
25:44So when I hear a fade on Colson Loveland, I sit there and say to myself, all right, I just explained how bullish I am on Tyler Warren.
25:53But then Tucker Craft is another one who you can get to sometimes two and a half rounds later than Colson Loveland.
26:00And you mentioned it, Casey, if you'd rather have somebody like a Devonta Smith, you're just then using the tier base value
26:07in this redraft format where you're like, hey, I'm going to push down my pockets of tight ends.
26:13If we had a cliff at tight end, I think we'd have to worry.
26:17But you're going to tell me that a lot of the metrics that Colson Loveland have and Tucker Craft have are very similar.
26:24I can get a couple rounds discount on Tucker Craft.
26:28Sign me up. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's essentially, you know, what the point Shev is driving at there.
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27:29It's going to be Brian Thomas Jr. Yep. 64th overall.
27:33I have him as wide receiver 35 in the ranks.
27:36And it's as simple as take Britain strange. We've talked about directionally.
27:40If anything could throw off the middle of the field open for somebody like a Parker Washington, it would be something like Brent strange hitting and popping off.
27:49Brent strange had 10 red zone targets down the stretch in the last six games last year.
27:54We already see the hype train happening for Parker Washington.
27:57My problem with Brian Thomas Jr. is when we talk about all this, can we just get 80% of rookie season Brian Thomas Jr.?
28:05I don't really care to mess around with that when I can get players like Jamison Williams.
28:10I can get T Higgins, as you had mentioned before.
28:14Tucker Craft, if I want an elite tight end who's laid out of pocket.
28:18Jordan Tyson, who I don't think is getting enough attention.
28:21I'm considering putting Tyson in that tier with Carnell Tate because I'm getting a lot of good hype from him.
28:28Chris Godwin, just a PPR print machine. We know he has a guaranteed role.
28:32In Dynasty, that wouldn't equivocate. DJ less. I have him, DJ Moore this time.
28:37I have DJ Moore ahead of Brian Thomas Jr.
28:40So as much as I've been out on somebody like a DJ Moore, in the redraft streets, I got to press the button and allow for it.
28:48I have ahead of Brian Thomas Jr., which is probably the most spicy, but I'm out there.
28:54So if you want to finish the fades for narcissism, anti-narcissism, Casey, you might say that you're going to fade Casey Concepcion.
29:01But yeah, I have a gentleman, 64 overall. Talking with Shep pre-show, he has him right about 68 or 69.
29:07And I'm actually debating putting BTJ behind Marvin Harrison Jr.
29:11at 68 or 69. So it's just funny how, Shev, you and I were on that, where it's like BTJ, Marv, and
29:18I think you had DJ Moore all in that range.
29:21But my fade, though, is Brian Thomas Jr. I just don't want the headache in the redraft streets, in baseball, or in
29:28Dynasty, where I have some depth and I've acquired and bought at somewhat of a discount.
29:33I don't mind, but I'm not clicking the button.
29:36When I get my couple of redrafts that I have, I'm not clicking Brian Thomas Jr.
29:41Yeah, and we're seeing, you know, Parker Washington has already jumped Brian Thomas over the last week or two.
29:47And we're seeing the Brian Thomas. I think Brian Thomas, by the end, might be somebody that I want to draft.
29:54By the time we get to the end of redraft season, when we're drafted in that last week of August, first week
30:01of September, maybe he gets to the point where he's down in that, you know, ninth, tenth round, where it's like, okay,
30:08now I might want to take the shot. He becomes a value, but right now I agree.
30:14I think, you know, pushing him down a little bit and kind of fading the spot where he is and seeing Parker Washington rise.
30:21Once the pass catchers for the Jaguars become palatable, which I think Brian Thomas is on the way, and Parker Washington may
30:28be in a spot where if he continues to go, that I don't want him either.
30:34Right now it's still fine. But like, as this whole Jags offense rises, whoever starts dropping the furthest is probably the one
30:41I'll end up with the most of because I just feel like they're all just going to kind of cannibalize each other throughout week over week.
30:49Now, maybe Parker Washington just comes out and just lays it down, and it's just undeniable, and he is for sure their number one.
30:57But I don't think we're going to know who the number one is week in, week out in this offense personally.
31:03So, Shev, everyone's nodding here in agreement. Shev, you want to hit us with your next fade?
31:09I would just like to say that it's Parker Washington.
31:12It always was Parker Washington. It's Parker Washington season, and I will die with a lie.
31:17So, you can fantasy receipts me. You can do whatever the hell you want.
31:22I'm telling you right now it's Parker Washington. So, my fade here, moving on.
31:26To close us out, RB24 right now. Well, let's see.
31:29Let me make sure. Let me make sure. It looks like we've got a little movement.
31:35What's all that movement going on back there? Yeah.
31:37I, it's Basel Toot. And I'm going to give you an exact number of where he's going because I'm fading him no matter what.
31:45It's Team C-Rod till I die over here. RB26.
31:48RB26 right now. So, everyone's assuming that because they didn't draft someone that all of a sudden it's just going to be
31:55Basel Toot and stepping into, stepping into the Travis A.
31:58Chan Jr. role and handling the majority of the workload.
32:02But if you paid attention to anything that's been going on in camp pretty much since they've gotten into pads, it's been
32:09an even split between he and Chris Rodriguez. And the more devastating thing is that LaQuinn Allen, my guy from the 2025
32:16draft, me and Casey made a, made a bet between Woody Marks and LaQuinn Allen.
32:21And I lost that in shameful fashion. But now, Lazarus risen from the dead.
32:25LaQuinn Allen playing on third downs, baby. And while that is terrible, terrible news for, that's terrible, that's great news for me.
32:32That's terrible news for Basel Toot and Truthers because of the fact that if we're taking away one, the Jacksonville Jaguars threw
32:39the ball to the running back position at the 30th highest rate with a guy who was a superior pass catcher to
32:46anybody else on the roster right now, last year in Travis A.
32:50Chan Jr. So, we're taking away pass catching. We, we feel pretty certain that C-Rod is going to be the short yardage back.
32:58And now we're taking away autonomy on third downs.
33:00So, in this range with going off the pick, going off the board, five, four picks before is DeAndre Swift.
33:07I'd rather have DeAndre Swift. I'd rather have David Montgomery at the front end of the round.
33:12I'd rather have Darian Price going six spots behind him.
33:16There's just, there, this is a, this is a, hey, I'm just betting that he, that he's Chris Johnson 2.0.
33:22Shout out, shout out to the legend. Hopefully, you know, hopefully everything just continues to go as smoothly as it can.
33:29And there's no upside to this pick to me.
33:32It's, it's, you are wish casting at an alarming level.
33:35If we're talking about him not getting goal line work, they were the sixth highest.
33:40There was six highest and inside the five attempts.
33:43That's the role that's tailor made for Chris Rodriguez.
33:45They're giving LaQuinn Allen the passing down work. This is between the twenties and he better score from, he better score from, from 40 yards out.
33:54Otherwise, this is going to be a nightmare and you're not going to be happy with your return on investment.
34:00Imagine, remember how you felt every time that Ken Walker left the game when they got inside the 10 yard line and they brought Zach Charbonnet in.
34:09That's what we could be in for in Jacksonville.
34:12It's not going to be a fun time. And they run the ball a lot and they don't throw the raw, throw
34:19the ball to the running back very much. So that is why I have chosen Bajal Tootin as my fate here.
34:26Yeah. The biggest thing is, is the emergence of LaQuinn Allen.
34:29If they really do have a bigger rotation of three guys in there coming off of last year, where it was definitely
34:36more of a two, you started to see some Allen here or there.
34:40But if he's going to siphon off some past game work and, and some, some totes in the gut here and there,
34:47uh, because he's on the field in certain situations, then this is, that is definitely devastating to Tootin.
34:53And I, we've been fairly vocal about C-Rod being a bigger part of this backfield than I think anybody wants to admit.
35:00And again, we have no idea. That's the whole point of this is like, we're just kind of going off of what's
35:07there speculation usage before all these kinds of things and how we see this offense running.
35:13And I think Shev and I have been in lockstep with Chris C-Rod being a big part of that.
35:19And now reports of, of Allen, which we thought it might be, but now if we're getting those reports, which again, camp
35:26stuff is, is very, can be very, very, um, deadly to, to your, like it could be exactly what it was there,
35:33or it could be nothing of the sort that we saw in camp for one reason or another.
35:39So you do have to sort of take it with a grain of salt, but it does make some, some sense, especially
35:46with how good of a pass catcher LaQuinn Allen is.
35:49Um, again, for the whole time, this has been, if Basial Tootin can be undeniable, then this is a great pick and
35:56where he, you just cannot keep him off the field.
35:59I don't know if that's going to be the, what we're seeing.
36:03And I don't, I don't think any of us trust him to be that, um, at least, or at least even get
36:10enough opportunity to show that maybe potentially. So, um, Jeremiah, anything else before we get your last fade?
36:16Yeah. What comes to mind is just the concept of you really have to thread the needle pure with somebody like a Basial Tootin.
36:24And then I think you're just flying too close to the sun in the best ball streets.
36:29You'll see Tootin go around running backs, like a Cam Scadabo, a Quinchon Judkins.
36:34And in the pure run, yes, Basial Tootin can hang, but go back to last year where LaQuinn Allen was on the
36:41field in some high leverage situations that even took Travis Etienne off the field.
36:45And then Chris Rodriguez comes in. I know you guys are high on Chris Rodriguez, but when we do the talent equivocation,
36:52doesn't it stand to reason if we're splicing off the slices of this running back backfield.
36:57If LaQuinn Allen increases, I don't think many people are accounting for that as well.
37:02So it could just end up being this trifold annoyance that occurs where you're getting better value on Chris Rodriguez because of the price you paid.
37:11You're definitely not happy one bit with somebody like a Basial Tootin.
37:14And then you're just meagerly, pleasantly surprised for your back end of your dynasty roster, LaQuinn Allen, because you're like, hey, there's
37:21some life here, you know, like Pinocchio. And he's like, I'm a real boy.
37:26Like, I've got a real asset here. Like, this is going to happen.
37:30Yeah. Yeah. It's tough for me. It's steep. So the difference between best ball and redraft, I look at the redraft streets
37:37and I've got Basial Tootin 89 overall back in the pack with somebody like Rico Dowdle and Tony Pollard, which I know
37:44a lot of market is not even there. They hate that.
37:48Right. But that's where I'm with you. It's just a lot.
37:51Yeah. Yeah. I like this. I like the Swift and the Monty stuff.
37:56And then receiver wise there. Like if you're talking about Roma Dunze being anywhere near him for whatever, you know, our ADP
38:03just came through and we got Rome a few spots away from Basial Tootin there.
38:07If that's the case, then I'm taking Rome every single time.
38:11Right. Jamison Williams or like you mentioned, DeAndre. And I mean, hell, give me Tony Pollard.
38:16You know, I trust that a lot more this year.
38:19And now I could be eating these words by week three.
38:23But I just trust the who is going to be in command of that backfield with Tony Pollard and that rotation or the Tootin rotation.
38:31I trust what the Titans are going to do at least in the rotation, not maybe the offense.
38:37Obviously, we like. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Tony Pollard was 95 yards a game from week 10 on.
38:42No, no, no. I'm just saying like from an offensive unit perspective, we know we trust the Jaguars to be good.
38:49And we're not sure about the tenant, but the rotation of the back, I feel way more better about the opportunities that Pollard would get.
38:57And to your point, was extremely underrated last year because everybody stopped watching Tennessee after week four.
39:02Yes. And rightfully so, by the way. Where you have more certainty, though.
39:07OK, what do you have to lose in a certainty quotient?
39:10I have way more certainty in somebody like Cam Scadbo.
39:13So why would I bother having to guesstimate and project somebody like a Bejal Tootin in redraft?
39:19I might as well, like at the loss of OK, Tootin goes off all the players in his ADP range.
39:25I feel like there's more certainty there. And why draft into the unknown at that pocket of your redraft?
39:31So that's where I'm just not going to when I don't have to guess and it's best ball.
39:37Sure. I've taken some stabs. Yeah. All right. You got one more fade for us, Jeremiah, to close this out.
39:44Yep. It's going to be Chuba Hubbard. He goes in the redraft streets.
39:4889 overall. Early 90s. I have him 129 RB40 in round 11.
39:52Now, in all fairness to Chuba Hubbard, look, he was hurt last year.
39:56He had a calf injury. So people will say all this stuff about how he wasn't as good last year.
40:02And we do have to at least acknowledge that.
40:05But he had 16 carries per game in 2024 to 8.9 carries per game in 2025.
40:10So is the argument that he didn't get as much volume and that was an issue because of the injury and the recovery?
40:18And people can tell me in the comments. 16.1 fantasy points per game from 2024 down to 8.4 fantasy points per game the last two seasons.
40:26Well, let's just say that goes up to maybe somewhere in the middle, like 12 points per game fantasy wise.
40:32I'm not looking for that in the range that I'm having to draft somebody like Chuba Hubbard.
40:38I'd rather take on the upside opportunity of somebody like a Jonathan Brooks.
40:42And for Chuba Hubbard, he needs more volume to hit his marks.
40:46And when I was able to draft him in round 14 on in 2024, it was electric.
40:51It reminds me a lot of the running back version of Alec Pierce, where I was really happy to get Alec Pierce in the double digit rounds.
41:00But now in the redraft price where Pierce is, even without injury, I don't love it because it's like you're having to hit hyper efficiency.
41:08So considering that Chuba Hubbard is going to need a massive amount of volume to hit, I'm just going to stay away.
41:15Now, that's a less pricier fade. You know, you can build a lot of scaffold of your team.
41:21But we've talked about all the RB2s in those ranges.
41:24I prefer those other RB2s than, say, a Chuba Hubbard.
41:27So Chuba is a fade for me. Not one that's necessarily going to kill you or benefit you as the higher ones,
41:34like the ones when we led off with Justin Jefferson and Jeremiah Love.
41:39Those are heavier fades. This is one of those middle to getting to the later fades.
41:44Now, you know, I was kind of leading into the in June, July, I was liking the opportunity to be able to
41:51buy somebody like Chuba Hubbard or even Jonathan Brooks, who all offseason's values just been, you know, the the yodeler from prices right there.
41:59Just climbing on up there. But recently, we've had a slew of injuries throughout this offensive line for Carolina, which I think
42:06to me is the bigger problem of why I would want to try to fade away from the Chevy.
42:12You would we had I forget what episode it was or maybe it was Patriot.
42:17I don't know. But like there's they're they're missing both.
42:20They're missing a ton of stuff. And I don't know exactly when it's speculated to be back or how healthy they'll be.
42:27But right now, it look like I wouldn't be surprised if if it's a if it's a bummer in Carolina for a minute here.
42:35OK, so Taylor Moton was out with blood clots.
42:37He's now returned to limited activity, just not practicing, but just back back with the team.
42:43He had blood clots in his lungs, which it's a very serious.
42:46That's that's sure. You end up dead sometimes when that happens to people.
42:51So there's not something to joke about. Robert Hunt was injured.
42:54The guard that they paid in free agency a couple of years ago.
42:58Damian Lewis was also injured coming into the season.
43:01And then Ikiakuanu tore his patella tendon in the playoffs.
43:04Excuse me, in the playoffs last year. So he's a ways away from being able to being able to contribute.
43:11So this is one of the this is one of the better offensive lines in the league.
43:16They've established the fact that they want to be a physical downhill running team just because it takes the pressure off of Bryce Young.
43:24And that's the way that they want to win football games.
43:28So as long as as long as the offensive lines out, it's kind of a hard avoid for me.
43:34And it would be it would be Jonathan Brooks greater than sign Chuba Hubbard if they're going to have to utilize the running backs in the passing game.
43:43Because Chuba Hubbard, despite catching like 40 balls, he caught 40 ball 43 balls, I believe in 2024 doesn't do it.
43:49And he's one of the most inefficient like him and Javante Williams are two of the most inefficient backs in the league
43:56in terms of pass catch, like the yards per reception and the efficiency on that.
44:01So anxious to see what Jonathan Brooks can do there.
44:05But right now, like you said, it's just kind of a we got to wait till they can actually get some starters back because that's the one position.
44:14That's the one position group where you just you don't have starter level replacements waiting in the wings for offensive linemen.
44:20And that's why they get paid like that. Right.
44:23Typically not. And that and that can be especially in the redraft streets where people are maybe a little bit more casual on how they approach things.
44:32And then that could be a thing where people are looking around saying, well, what the hell is wrong with Chuba or Jonathan Brooks?
44:40And it's like they don't even realize that. And it's to me, that's just the situation.
44:45A monitor is like, when is this line the closest back to the continuity of things that they've had in the past?
44:52And how long is that going to take? That's the biggest thing to monitor here.
44:57Whether or not Chuba is a fade for me or not.
45:00Go ahead, Jeremiah. You know, they're getting cracked in the backfield.
45:04You know, what can you do? It's not not good.
45:07That's a crazy statement. We're going to end on that one, ladies and gentlemen.
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