First Class Fantasy - Jonathan Brooks' Price is SKYROCKETING
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Aug 22, 2026
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Sat, August 22, 2026
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Jeremiyah LoveJonathon BrooksMalik NabersAlec PierceBlake CorumBrian Thomas Jr.Chase BrownChris RodriguezD.J. MooreDeebo SamuelGeorge KittleHarold FanninJakobi MeyersJayden Daniels
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Player insights
Alec Pierce
NegativeInjury45:45
Alec Pierce is currently dealing with an injury that has kept him out of team drills, leading to uncertainty regarding his timeline and prompting the Colts to sign Keenan Allen as insurance.
Insight pageBlake Corum
PositiveSleeper41:39
Blake Corum is a priority target for Player Profiler. Super, who aims to leave every draft with a share of either Corum or Jonathan Brooks to secure high-upside running back depth.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
PositiveProjection31:23
Player Profiler. Super holds about half as many shares of Brian Thomas Jr. compared to Parker Washington, noting that Thomas Jr. is a big talent in a good offense who now goes in the late fifth to early sixth round.
Insight pageChase Brown
PositiveProjection16:48
Matt Modica is high on Chase Brown, drafting him in the first/second round turn because he is in a great offense with little competition for volume behind him. Pete Nova projects Brown for 90 targets, noting that the presence of Tee Higgins and Ja'Marr Chase will lighten defensive boxes for him.
Insight pageChris Rodriguez
PositiveRole33:40
Chris Rodriguez is gaining momentum as the team's preferred goal-line back. He is a reliable, physical runner who provides consistent yardage, though he lacks the pass-catching upside of his competitors.
Insight pageD.J. Moore
PositiveValue22:04
DJ Moore's ADP has risen to the early fourth round, with some drafts seeing him go at the 3-4 turn. Despite initial frustration regarding the trade cost, Player Profiler. Super is now buying shares because Moore's 'backyard football' style and ability to freestyle on broken plays match perfectly with Josh Allen's playmaking, unlike the rigid Ben Johnson offense.
Insight pageDeebo Samuel
PositiveValue59:56
Deebo Samuel is considered a major value at his current ADP of 126. He is in great shape after a difficult stint in Washington and is expected to be a key weapon in a top-five 49ers offense.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
PositiveProjection61:49
George Kittle is looking good, and the source has started drafting him more frequently despite initial concerns about his age.
Insight pageHarold Fannin
PositiveSleeper57:37
Harold Fanning is highlighted as a high-upside tight end who could be elite this year, drawing comparisons to David Njoku's rookie season success despite poor quarterback play.
Insight pageJakobi Meyers
NegativeBust56:30
The source explicitly avoids drafting Jakobi Meyers, preferring to bet on other players like Parker Washington or Brian Thomas Jr. in the same offense.
Insight pageJayden Daniels
PositiveValue52:19
Jayden Daniels is considered a massive value at his current ADP around pick 100, with the potential to finish as a top-two quarterback and provide a significant positional advantage.
Insight pageJaylen Warren
PositiveUsage50:46
Jalen Warren is expected to maintain a significant role in the Steelers' offense, particularly on third downs and as a pass-catcher, despite the team's backfield competition.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
PositiveInjury25:01
Jeremiah Love has fallen to the third/fourth round turn following an ankle injury. Matt Modica is concerned about the high ankle sprain but acknowledges Love's potential as a second-half league winner if he recovers.
Insight pagePositiveValue26:06
Jeremiah Love has seen his ADP shift from the 2-3 turn to the 3-4 turn, making him a more comfortable target for Player Profiler. Super at the new, lower price point.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
PositiveValue0:46
Jonathan Brooks' ADP is rising significantly in the NFFC market due to Chuba Hubbard's injury.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout40:35
Jonathan Brooks is a high-upside target for Player Profiler. Super, who owns over 20 shares. Despite a poor offensive line, Player Profiler. Super is betting on Brooks' pass-catching ability in a Panthers offense that will likely rely on dump-offs due to poor quarterback play.
Insight pageJosh Downs
PositiveUsage45:39
Despite the addition of Keenan Allen, the source remains a strong believer in Josh Downs, noting that he crushes when playing two-thirds of the snaps and expects him to play all over the field this season.
Insight pageKeenan Allen
NegativeRole45:45
Keenan Allen was signed by the Colts due to his familiarity with the head coach and to provide depth at the X-receiver position while Alec Pierce is sidelined. The source notes that while Allen can get open in the short-to-intermediate area, Father Time may be catching up to him.
Insight pageKenneth Walker III
PositiveValue13:53
Matt Modica views Kenneth Walker as a strong value in the middle of the second round, comparing his projected role to Kareem Hunt's rookie season; he believes Walker will be the focal point of the offense.
Insight pageLamar Jackson
PositiveValue28:32
Lamar Jackson is Player Profiler. Super's second-ranked quarterback and is currently going at pick 81. Despite a general preference against drafting quarterbacks early, Player Profiler. Super considers him a must-draft when he slips that far due to elite talent value.
Insight pageMalik Nabers
PositiveProjection22:01
Player Profiler ranks Malik Nabers as a one-two turn pick, expressing full comfort in selecting him at that draft position.
Insight pagePositiveValue34:06
Matt Modica has shifted to a 'draft early and often' stance on Malik Nabers, who is currently going in the mid-to-early second round. Modica expects Nabers' ADP to potentially creep into the first round as high-stakes drafts intensify, noting that even a partially healthy Nabers is superior to most wide receivers.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveInjury29:37
Parker Washington is dealing with an undisclosed injury, but Player Profiler. Super remains heavily invested, drafting him as high as the 3-4 turn. Player Profiler. Super expects a contract extension before opening day and believes the injury is minor or personal, though acknowledges that a serious injury would be a significant blow to his roster construction.
Insight pageRicky Pearsall
NegativeDepth Chart61:03
Ricky Pearsall has seen his ADP rise into the seventh or eighth round as drafters scramble to get exposure to him following positive preseason usage.
Insight pageRico Dowdle
PositiveRole50:36
Rico Dowdle is viewed as a potential lead back for the Cowboys, with reports indicating he has looked phenomenal in camp. He is considered a value pick in the 10th round of best ball drafts.
Insight pageSam LaPorta
PositiveProjection53:50
Sam LaPorta is ranked as the number four tight end and is poised for a big year, benefiting from a favorable schedule and an offense expected to bounce back.
Insight pageTravis Etienne
PositiveProjection37:45
Travis Etienne's value is rising following the Alvin Kamara injury news. Player Profiler. Super now ranks him ahead of Kyren Williams and behind Javavonte Williams, pushing him into the fourth round, as he expects Etienne to absorb more targets in a high-tempo offense.
Insight pageTravis Hunter
NegativeUsage32:13
Travis Hunter is primarily playing defense (28 snaps) with minimal offensive usage (2 snaps) in joint practices, contradicting the fantasy narrative that he is an injury away from a full-time offensive role.
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0:46Anheuser-Busch. Michelob Ultra Light Beer. St. Louis, Missouri. Jonathan Brooks ADP is soaring up the board right now due to Chubba Hubbard going down due to injury.
0:55Jonathan Brooks and plenty more players are shifting up and down the board.
0:59We're going to break it all down right here on Player Profiler.
1:03What is going on, folks? Pete Nova here with Player Profiler.
1:07Super excited to be back. I have Matt Modica, who is part of the Fantasy Empire show here at Player Profiler.
1:14Matt is a very sharp guy, high-stakes drafter, and is one of those guys that's pretty much in the trenches the last
1:21month, probably even earlier than that, Matt. Just looking at ADP, seeing where the markets are shifting, and kind of just reacting
1:28as fantasy managers are reacting in real time. You're probably one of the better guys to bring on right now at this
1:35stage of the offseason because you've seen so many guys, again, move up and down the board.
1:41So excited to get your insight. Thanks so much for joining us.
1:45We're going to pick your brain a little bit here today.
1:48Well, thank you for having me. Excited to do this talk.
1:52You know, NFFC, ADP, been in the streets since like the first week of June, doing the live streams with Nelson Sousa, Paul Spateri.
2:00So I think I got like probably at least 25 live streams under my belt.
2:05Yeah, live streams, and then that's probably not even including the drafts that you aren't live streaming, right?
2:11Plenty of drafts this year under your belt and plenty of drafts in high stakes just over the last, I don't know,
2:18how many years have you been playing? Forgetting about just fantasy football, how many years have you been playing in high stakes?
2:25Well, I was really big on baseball. That's where I got in and kind of made my bones.
2:31It was NFBC, not NFFC. And I started like dabbling a little in NFFC.
2:35And then probably like around, you know, the late teens, like 2017, 18, 19, that area, I really started getting into football.
2:43And then the last few years, it's pretty much been all football and stopped doing baseball.
2:48Yeah, and when it comes to football versus baseball, baseball is a tough grind, right?
2:53I mean, I do one high stakes league. It's not on the high stakes website, but it's like a $500 entry.
3:00It's only 10 guys and it's just, you know, it's the NL only, right?
3:04And it's Roto. It's like one, it's like two ad drops a week.
3:08It's a line of blocks one time. So you don't have to worry about continuously coming in every single day and doing the dailies and stuff.
3:17That's where fantasy baseball can be really tedious. But it is, I personally feel like there's more edges in fantasy baseball and
3:24it's a lot more data dependent where with football, we can look at the spreadsheets a ton and try to analyze a bunch of stuff.
3:32But the truth is like the spreadsheets, it doesn't, it doesn't translate nearly as much on a week by week basis.
3:39Whereas baseball, there's so many different things that you can track.
3:43So I feel like it makes it a little bit easier to find edges there and to predict for the future.
3:50But yeah, like I said, super excited to have you on here.
3:54Let's talk a little bit about the board though.
3:57Let's just hop right into it. So we talked prior and we decided we were going to do the last three days of NFFC ADP.
4:05So this is what we have here on the board.
4:08And for those that don't know the format with NFFC, you know, it is a third round reversal.
4:14Roster construction is a little bit different than maybe, you know, another site that you might be drafting on.
4:20It is PPR as well. But before we get into the players for you, do you target a specific build early on in drafts this year?
4:29Are you one of those drafters that you're drafting with so much volume that, you know, you're maybe tinkering or trying a
4:36couple of different builds to try to get exposure to guys just in case you're wrong?
4:41Or what's your methodology this season? I mean, I'm going to diversify, but I'm only going to diversify on these players that I like.
4:49I have a certain pool. It's really not that big, be honest with you, because if you like everybody or not even
4:56if you like everybody, if you are in on everybody, then you're really in on nobody.
5:01So I think you have to take stands on players and, you know, make some commitments here.
5:07As far as builds go, it's going to depend where I am picking.
5:11Just like, for instance, if I'm picking three to five in the NFFC where you have to start three wide receivers, for
5:18me, most likely, unless somebody fell that, you know, was that I didn't expect, I'm going four wide receivers.
5:24And I think that's advantageous because the way the board is giving you that running back in the fifth, that could be your RB1.
5:32And in the early sixth, you can get an upshot RB2 guy.
5:36You know, maybe there's question marks and stuff, but there's talent there, you know.
5:41But, you know, sometimes if you're picking, like, say, five, and you start out with a JSN or an Amon Ra, if
5:48a Hampton fell, you know, he was never falling there until Mike McDaniel made that comment, which I think was, even if
5:55it wasn't a joke, you should not be following, you know, you should be buying a Hampton as much as possible.
6:02I know the Lions, I know their Lions just took a loss with the center, so that's not good, but still, that's a top offense.
6:10Yeah, and when it comes to just the board, at least the last three days, in the first 48 picks, 28 wide
6:17receivers go off the board compared to 16 running backs.
6:21You know, it's normal though, right? Three wide receivers is what you have to start.
6:25So that gets pushed up, which is funny because this year, Matt, we hear all, everybody's saying the same thing, right?
6:32You got to draft running backs early. You got to draft running backs early.
6:37Like that's become that kind of herd mentality. And, you know, I'm not going to zig just to, I'm not going to
6:44zag when everybody's zigging just to do it for the sake of doing it.
6:49I'm with you though. Typically in these drafts, my strategy is trying to anchor down with a running back, right?
6:55And then hitting a ton of the wide receiver values after that.
6:59I'm just looking here at the first round to the second round, right?
7:03Running backs that go off the board at the end of the first it's Jonathan Taylor.
7:09It's Ashton Janty. It's James Cook. Then on the turn, you're getting a lot more running backs.
7:14So it feels like the, the running backs, like being on that one, two turn this year feels really good.
7:21It's being stuck in the middle this year between, you know, five and seven or five and eight is probably my least favorite area to draft Matt.
7:29I don't know about you, but I just feel like if you, if you get the one, two, three, you're getting obviously
7:37a very elite player in Gibbs, Bijon chase, depending on how you have it.
7:41Uh, maybe even some Puka there, depending on who's drafting.
7:45Uh, but then on the turn for the one, two, these running backs, like we look at, they get gobbled and gobbled up.
7:52I'm actually surprised. Kenneth Walker is available. He's kind of being pushed into the middle of the second round over the last few days.
8:00Um, what is your thoughts on Kenneth Walker? You touched on tomorrow on Hampton there it's Hampton, it's chase Brown, then H and then Barkley, then Kenneth Walker.
8:09Um, do you have it this way for you?
8:12If you're drafting typically, do you prefer those players over Kenneth Walker?
8:16Yeah. I mean, Kenneth Walker in the OC isn't going in the middle of a second round anymore, though.
8:22Like once in a while, maybe he's more going around that, you know, around the turn.
8:27Okay. So, um, uh, you know, if, if he falls there, I'll, I'll tell you straight out.
8:33I did two slow primes, uh, that I picked between eight and nine.
8:37And I took Kenneth Walker on the turn when he was there.
8:41And he's just too good of a value for me to pass up.
8:45I think he's going to be the chiefs offense.
8:48If I had to like project the line and I don't really do projections, I don't sit there and like crunch those numbers out.
8:56But I would put him at say Kareem Hunt's rookie season.
9:00You know, I think he's going to be the offense.
9:03They have not had a dynamic back in years.
9:06Andy Reed. Once upon a time, he wanted that Andy Reed running back.
9:10They just went out, paid this guy, got him the bag.
9:14And, uh, you know. Well, it's a good, I just got to stop you.
9:18It's a good thing that you mentioned it. Cause I, I just did the filter again.
9:23It's funny. We were just talking. That's what I wanted to say to you.
9:28I had a preset. It's almost like a, uh, like a nudge from you of like, Hey, I'm trying to tell you
9:35that, that, that, that, that the board doesn't look right without telling you, but.
9:40You want to know how I knew instantly was the third round in the third round.
9:45It's pretty much, it's, it's a wide receiver avalanche.
9:48There's times it could basically, if Henry's there, Henry will go, but there's times it might be like Derek Henry and that's it.
9:56Otherwise it's all receivers. So. Yeah. Well, okay. So, so talk to me about Hampton and Walker, right?
10:01Um, because I'm very high on chase Brown and Walker Brown is, is becoming a one, two turn pick.
10:08Um, I was, I pretty much that that's what I said when I came out, I came out with my rankings a couple of weeks ago.
10:16I have chase Brown at the one, two. Um, I think he deserves to be there.
10:21Um, but I have him in Walker kind of right neck and neck right now.
10:26There's, I have Walker ahead of chase Brown. Now I've had it flip flopped.
10:31Uh, but I haven't really, for me in preference, I have it as, as Walker chase Brown right now.
10:37Um, and then I do have like Devon, a chain and Barkley ahead of.
10:42Omar on Hampton. Um, again, what are your, what are your thoughts there?
10:46Like, let's just at least start with those three chase Brown, Kenneth Walker Hampton.
10:50Um, are you like, Hey, I'm just trying to get exposure to the three guys and you mix and match pretty much.
10:58If you're on that side of the board, typically, are you in on all three of those guys?
11:03Uh, and who would be the guy out of those three that you like the least?
11:09Uh, I am in on all three of them.
11:12I took chase Brown and in the current slow prime time I'm doing, I took him at nine.
11:17So, you know, for me, it was, he's just in, he's just in a great offense.
11:23I mean, Burrow has been injury prone, but I don't really see like the one guy behind him is Samajay Pirine.
11:30And I, I guess the sophomore running back, you know, so I don't really see a threat as long as he's healthy.
11:37He's going to get volume. They were working him out in the slot and, you know, chase Brown to me, I'm more
11:44in on like James cook and chase Brown than CMC and JT this year.
11:49I could be dead wrong on that, but they both had, you know, most touches last year.
11:54I kind of like fade that. So we'll see.
11:57Yeah. And I, and I'm, I'm, I'm with you and I, and the chase Brown thing for me, uh, you know, one
12:04beautiful thing about chase Brown and this offense is just, you're getting two alphas on the outside, right.
12:10In T Higgins and Jamar chase, which lightens up these boxes for chase Brown, uh, to pretty much like, I mean, he
12:17really not take much contact, uh, at the line of scrimmage because defenses have to play them honest because they have so many weapons on the outside.
12:26So, um, I have chase Brown. I know you talked about the projections.
12:30It's not really your thing of crunching every single teams.
12:34Um, I did this year's projections for chase Brown.
12:37I did it for every team. Uh, chase Brown, I have catching or I'm sorry, getting, uh, 90 targets this year.
12:43I do think it's very, very possible for Brown.
12:46Um, I do think that defense is going to be a little bit better this year than we've seen in years past.
12:54They've made some improvements, which could be a little bit of a, of a bummer when it comes to chase Brown and projecting just the offense.
13:02Maybe they slow down a little bit. Uh, but who really knows, right?
13:06It's still projecting for the defense. They still got to put it together.
13:11And we haven't seen that so far in the Joe burrow era.
13:14Yeah. As far as Hampton goes, I mean, I, I wasn't buying anything.
13:19Mike McDaniel was saying, what is he going to say?
13:22Like, I mean, he's a three headed monster. Yeah.
13:25I, the, what team tell me what team in recent memory has ever had a three, you know, headed monster at running back truly.
13:33Like, you know, there's some teams where you have the one, two punch and then you have like a, a gadget guy
13:40that kind of goes in and is kind of like a special teams guy, but really doesn't make much of an impact.
13:47The truth is. And, and he also made the comment about the hot hand thing.
13:52And I'm just like, come on, we're talking about a hot hand, like people reading into it a little too much.
13:59Now I, the, my real concern and you touched on it is really just, you know, Rashawn Slater had a little bit
14:06of a setback with the patello tendon injury. He did miss some practice already.
14:11Um, and that's popped up the last week. You obviously lost Biotis at center.
14:15So now they're, they're, they're relying on slaughter. They're, they're rookie center.
14:19Um, and then at right, right tackle, um, you also have a Joe alt who, you know, is obviously coming off ankle
14:26surgery and they don't have much depth behind them.
14:29So hopefully Mike McDaniels can work some magic. Maybe, you know, the, the nice thing about McDaniels is he gets the ball out quickly in his scheme.
14:38So from a pass rush standpoint, just from, from Herbert's perspective, uh, it may not be as much of a detriment because he can probably scheme around it.
14:47Um, and we know Herbert's been able to elevate even with, uh, a depleted offensive line around him.
14:53So we'll have to see how it goes, but I do want to grab your opinion in the third round here, because it's pretty telling.
15:01You see Jeremiah love, uh, now going at the three, four turn.
15:05And, uh, that's interesting. I was not big on Jeremiah love, uh, Matt, you know, drafting him at the, the, the one, two turn.
15:13I'm sorry, the two, three turn where he was going a lot in, you know, a month ago, weeks ago, he obviously
15:20gets this ankle injury and now he's kind of fallen to this three, four turn.
15:25This starts to become a little bit more of the, the area where I'm more comfortable drafting him.
15:31But if I am in that one hole where he is falling on the board and I have taken Gibbs, I'm probably
15:38not passing up on the wide receivers in this area because you have to start three.
15:43Is that typically your mindset to have you been drafting love and where he's going right here?
15:49Does that kind of make sense? And is that something that you probably would be following as well?
15:55Cause you did talk about hammering those wide receivers early.
15:58Usually I do like to just hammer the wide receivers.
16:01If I get a, a Gibbs or a Bijon and take that advantage.
16:06Uh, all my Jeremiah love shares in the NFFC online championship are in the fourth round.
16:11I don't think I have any in the third, but he has gone early fourth at times, even before the injury.
16:18And right before the injury, I was doing a prime time and I don't know if I started pickings, burden, and I
16:25did take love on that three, four turn. And then the game happened.
16:29He looked great. I was excited. And then he got hurt.
16:33Then I like, you know, 14 plays, whatever, whatever insane number they, uh, decided to use that game, but hopefully, you know, it's a high ankle.
16:41So that's never good. I would take him if he falls further in the fourth round, then I'd have him in consideration.
16:48But the high ankle sprain does scare me. I do think he is a player that has the possibility to be a second half league winner.
16:57Of course, again, I don't even really care. I mean, I want it to be Brissette, but they have a capable backup.
17:04The rookie, let's see what Carson Beck is. I really don't know.
17:08He looked good against backups in preseason, but this defense is so bad.
17:12They got no improvement. Remember last year, they were garbage time monsters.
17:16I mean, Michael Wilson had two number one weeks and they have one of the greatest play, uh, playoff schedules as well.
17:23So. Yeah, it's, uh, the, the love injury is going to be interesting to see how he shakes that off.
17:30And, uh, you know, it was such a boneheaded thing.
17:33Um, we're going to take a quick break and then we're going to jump back to Malik neighbors.
17:39Cause I do want to touch on him. Uh, I know we're in the third round here.
17:45He does sometimes go third round, uh, but he has moved up to now the second round, uh, with the positive news that's come out.
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19:27Back here with Matt Modica talking NFC ADP risers, fallers, and just talking a little bit of draft strategy.
19:34Do you want to talk about Malik Neighbors? Because what an offseason, Matt, Malik Neighbors has had.
19:39When you talk about just ADP in general, Malik Neighbors has had, I mean, he's lived on quite literally all ends of the spectrum ADP.
19:47We had the whole charity softball game and everyone's hyper-analyzing how he looks jogging to first base.
19:53You know, now he's, you know, looks really fluid, really good in these team drills.
19:58He's getting back and back and more acclimated. We still don't know about week one, but his price point now in NFFC
20:05over the last few days is sitting at pick 20, which is a late second round pick.
20:11A kind of mid-late second round pick would go to team four technically.
20:15But what are your thoughts about Neighbors? I have taken him in more of the best ball formats.
20:21I have taken him as high as, you know, early second round.
20:25There's been a lot of times where he's came back to me on the third round reversal and I've taken him there as well.
20:32But what are your thoughts on Neighbors? Is this a price point for you that's still too high coming off of this injury?
20:40Or do you find yourself comfortable taking chances on him as well, even if his price point's here?
20:46I mean, I've done a complete 180 and my advice is draft Neighbors early and often.
20:51I think it was August 2nd. I sent out a tweet.
20:55I was doing a slow prime and a slow online championship.
20:58And I said, I took Neighbors at 3-5 in a slow prime.
21:02That doesn't exist anymore in that format. But in the OC, every now and then he might get to, you know, pick 25.
21:10But he's basically going anywhere from as late, maybe like late second on the off occasion, but more to like mid to early second.
21:18And I think by September, if it keeps going positive over the next couple of weeks, you're going to see him creep
21:25into the first round, especially when they have these big money drafts in Vegas that they do.
21:30Like these are closed leagues that are $5,000, $10,000 entries and stuff like that.
21:35People will get very aggressive. Even 90% of Neighbors is better than probably 95% of the wide receivers.
21:41Yeah. Yeah, it's a good point. And it's just as simple of, you know, you want exposure to elite players.
21:47Neighbors is still elite while maybe efficiency could drop off.
21:51Volume-wise, we know that's probably still going to be there.
21:54There's not a lot of mouths to feed in this offense.
21:57And so, yeah, I'm comfortable taking him there as well.
22:01I have him ranked Malik Neighbors as a one-two turn pick.
22:04So I'm totally comfortable taking him there. Let's talk about DJ Moore.
22:08DJ Moore, you're a Bills guy. I would be curious to know your thoughts on him.
22:13He's risen. He's now at, you know, early fourth round.
22:17What's the highest you've seen DJ Moore go? Because, you know, for more casual, maybe non-high stakes drafts, you know, you play
22:24on like Underdog, you play on DraftKings. DJ Moore has been pretty much like in the 50s for where his ADP has
22:31been for pretty much the entire offseason. He's started to creep up even in that format.
22:36But where do you typically see him go? And is this a price point for you, first pick in the fourth round,
22:43where you'd be still comfortable taking him in these formats?
22:47Well, as a Bills fan, I was furious last year.
22:50They didn't trade for Jalen Waddle and give up, you know, next year's first round pick or whatever.
22:56And when they traded for DJ Moore, I was extremely pissed.
22:59Not that they got DJ Moore, but that they paid a second round pick, number one, and like, you know, you knew
23:07they were cutting him or they were getting rid of DJ Moore.
23:11He was not a fit in the Ben Johnson offense.
23:14Had a big contract still. And the GM just got swindled there.
23:18Like, if he would have spent the fourth round pick, so I've had a bias that I've been angry about it.
23:25Yeah, this feels like a sore subject for you a little bit.
23:29He did play under their now head coach in Carolina.
23:32And he had like one of his best seasons.
23:35So now I am starting to come around. I only had like a couple of shares maybe, you know, prior to the preseason game.
23:43And prior to the preseason game, for the most part, he was living at the end of the fourth, sometimes early fifth, in the NFFC.
23:51Now, like you said, he's going at the 3-4 turn.
23:54My boys, the Fantasy Sopranos, Steve G and Nelson, they were the ones that started taking him like a week prior, around that time, around the 3-4 turn.
24:03And then everybody started doing it. I even did it in an OC last week.
24:08I wanted to do another bill stack, so I went with him and Alan there.
24:13And I did see him, was it yesterday? I did an afternoon OC.
24:17And he went at 3-5. So that was the highest I've seen him.
24:21I pretty much really hadn't seen him before the 3-4 turn.
24:25He seemed to be living there or maybe right before.
24:28But he's a very wanted man right now, it looks like.
24:32And if they do another preseason game and he gets peppered again or makes another big play, I think it's only going to go up.
24:40Yeah. This is one of those things where there's advantages in drafting early.
24:44Sometimes there's disadvantages, right? If you're somebody overweight on Jaden Higgins, who unfortunately just went down today, there's some disadvantages there.
24:51But then there's advantages, right? I mean, DJ Moore has been one of my favorite players to draft this offseason.
24:58I just feel like stylistically he matches really, really well with Josh Allen from that backyard football style, right?
25:04I mean, DJ Moore in Ben Johnson's offense, he's like, you need to be right here at this very spot, at this point in the play.
25:12It's very meticulous. With Josh Allen, it's a lot of free-flowing because he extends plays.
25:17And that's DJ Moore's game. He is a guy that will freestyle.
25:21He's not the sharpest route runner, but he's somebody who knows how to play backyard football.
25:26And so I feel like they match up very, very well.
25:30And it makes a lot of sense to see DJ go this high because like you said, Allen and his price point,
25:37if you are trying to stack him, right? It's a lot of guys taking him on that 3-4 turn with DJ and Allen.
25:45And it makes sense to stack both guys there.
25:48So I can totally, totally understand that. And it's kind of a bummer because you start to see guys that you really
25:55love the value on and then their price starts to go higher and higher and that value is just not there.
26:02But it also opens up for other players to maybe go lower, right?
26:06And you start to get guys at price points you feel a little more comfortable with.
26:11Like for me, that's Jeremiah Love, who I didn't feel comfortable, you know, going around that 2-3 turn.
26:17But now he's going 3-4 turn. And now I'm more comfortable to go ahead and get some shares of him.
26:24So it kind of washes, you know, it washes itself either way.
26:28You know, wash your back. I wash, you wash my back.
26:31I wash your back kind of thing. You know, it finds its way to come back.
26:36It kind of, you know. I'll say one thing on players, you know, and a lot of it's preference.
26:43And, you know, it's like a stock. If there's a stock that you believe in, it's like a blue chip stock that's
26:50really good and it keeps going up and you buy it on the way up, which is like an investment you believe in.
26:57This is what you have to do. Like some people are like, well, I got them in the fourth round.
27:04I'm not paying third round prices. I'm like, I don't understand that.
27:08Because, you know, that's why I personally, most of my draft season will be over, like come September.
27:14You know, I'll do a couple that first week because the season actually starts very late this year.
27:20But I like to start early and draft early because you get prices and you get builds that you're never going to get.
27:27Like even now, like after the 12th round, there's nothing.
27:30It's really sketch out there. So. Yeah. Yeah, it is.
27:34And I like that analogy. It's funny. Like I talked to my buddy and because, you know, we invest in stocks too.
27:41And it's like my one buddy is always, you know, we'll take like, take like Apple, for example.
27:47I'm talking to him like three, four years ago.
27:50And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, like either way, like we'll get a little bit Apple.
27:55And we're young guys. So, you know, you obviously want to take risk.
27:59You don't want to invest in every blue chip because it's like you have a lot of time to recover.
28:06But it's the same thing with him. It's like, well, you know, it's like, it's already at this point, we got to,
28:13we got to find things that are going to, you know, triple our value.
28:17Right. And that's what people are looking for so much where people get so caught up in the value of the board
28:25where you have to have some sort of balance with it.
28:28Right. It's like, I'll take value when value falls to me.
28:32Of course, like Lamar Jackson, you know, where he goes, sometimes he slips even further, but right now Lamar Jackson's going at pick 81.
28:40Right. Lamar Jackson's my second ranked quarterback. I typically don't draft quarterbacks high, but when I'm getting elite talent falling that far
28:47to me, like it's hard to pass up. Right.
28:50So those are times where I'll take the value.
28:53And then there's times you got to go up and reach and go, go pay that price for something that you really like and you care about.
29:01And that's kind of to your point, you know, if you're a big fan of DJ Moore and this price tag scares
29:09you off, then kind of like what you said before, if you buy everyone, then who are you really in on?
29:15Same thing here. Like if you're really in on the player, like believe that and don't let other people kind of shift
29:23it, that opinion for you, as well as, you know, don't let the board shift that opinion for you.
29:29But let's go ahead and look at the rest of the board here.
29:33Let's keep it moving. I do want to talk about Parker Washington, right?
29:37He goes off at the board now in the fourth round.
29:41He did pop up on this like injury. What are your thoughts on Washington?
29:46I know the CMC talk lately, they're saying it's possibly contract related.
29:49Do you think the Parker Washington undisclosed injury where they're telling us, Hey, he's going to be back in a week, but
29:57they won't tell us what the injury is. And he's day to day.
30:01Do you think it has anything to do with possibly hammering out a contract extension?
30:06Because we have heard about a contract extension for Parker Washington.
30:09And I assumed his ADP was going to shoot up the board once that happened.
30:14But just these continuous days, if I'm stacking and stacking and stacking more days, now he's sitting here in that fourth round.
30:21But I still love him. And I'm still probably drafting him as well.
30:26Do you think there's something to something with this injury?
30:29And are you hoping that we get a little bit of a discount on Parker Washington?
30:34Or is he somebody you're not really drafting? First, I hope it's more of like a personal reason, maybe, or something minor.
30:41I do think he's getting a contract before opening day.
30:45But, you know, it seems like everybody says he broke out the last four weeks.
30:50And he broke out after the week eight bye.
30:52The offense got geared towards him. It revolved around him.
30:56And that's why when I hear that, I'm like, no, it was 10 games plus the playoffs, whatever, nine games plus the playoffs.
31:03I've been drafting Parker Washington anywhere as late as the mid-sixth.
31:0726th. I've drafted him as high as the 3-4 turn.
31:10And he is, if not my most owned player, one of my most owned players.
31:15Love that. So I'm very invested in Parker Washington.
31:18On the flip side, I do have probably half as many shares as of BTJ.
31:23Because he goes anywhere in the late fifth to early to mid-sixth now.
31:27And he's still, look, he was a guy we were drafting like seventh overall last year.
31:32And I still think he's a big talent. I think this is a really good offense.
31:38So I'm in on him. But I am in on Parker Washington.
31:41If this is a serious injury, I might be in serious trouble.
31:45So I'll light a candle for the next week.
31:48And hopefully it's something minor or personal. And again, I do believe when the season kicks off, he will have a new contract.
31:56Yeah, I'm with you. Let's take a look now at a player on Parker.
32:00I do want to add one note and then we'll go to the next player.
32:05We're going to talk about Bachel too. But one thing to note too, with Parker Washington being out, it is being reported
32:13that Travis Hunter is still really not playing a ton on offense, which is kind of surprising because we have kind of,
32:20a lot of people have fallen into that trap of assuming that Hunter's an injury away from being a full-blown, full-time offensive player.
32:27And we haven't seen it just yet in these joint practices where he could be getting some really important reps against other teams.
32:35It has not been the case. He hasn't played a ton of offense.
32:39It's mainly been on defense, which is pretty telling.
32:42So I'm curious to see with Parker being out, if maybe that changes depending on how many more days he's out.
32:49But that's one thing that I've taken notice of and I've been interested in.
32:53I saw it today though. Yeah. I don't mean to cut you off, but I think it was today.
33:00They had a joint practice and he was basically like cornerback one.
33:03He had 28 snaps on defense and like only two on offense.
33:07Yeah. So I don't know. And it's a little surprising.
33:11It could just be that they, they want him.
33:14Maybe it flips. I don't know if they have a joint practice tomorrow.
33:18Maybe it flips and they're just trying to get him focused on one side of the ball each day.
33:24I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure they've already had two practices and it's, it's really been majorly on the defense side of the ball.
33:32Now, Bayshall Tootin's going off the board at pick number 60.
33:36The Chris Rodriguez drumbeat seems to be getting a little bit more louder.
33:40It feels like this team believes that Chris Rodriguez is going to be that guy that they want to use in the, at the goal line.
33:49It was reported that the Jaguars were not happy with, you know, what they had in their short yardage backs last season.
33:56And I don't really get the Bayshall Tootin hype.
33:59I hate to offend you, Matt, because I don't know if you're a Tootin guy, but I am not on the train.
34:06But is ADP falling to possibly six round? Again, comes to that point where I'm, I'm okay saying, okay, I'll start taking
34:13some chances on him if he continues to fall a little bit.
34:17Yeah, you can get Tootin. Tootin, like you said, I think on the board here, it's right at the five, six turn.
34:24He goes in the mid six round at times.
34:27So he is definitely falling. At one point it looked like he was rising.
34:32And then Chris Rodriguez came back. I am kind of a Tootin truther.
34:36I do think he is, I think the scenario here is they don't really know what they have in him.
34:42And I think he's going to get a shot.
34:45I do think Chris Rodriguez is involved regardless. And I draft him as well.
34:50But his price is somewhere in the 11th round or sometimes early 12.
34:54And I will, you know, I'll, I'll hit that button every time.
34:58Yeah. But, and the thing with Rodriguez is he goes back to Cone with Kentucky.
35:03But I think this guy's got like seven receptions in the NFL and, you know, maybe 20 throughout college and everything.
35:10So he's not going to be catching passes. Yeah.
35:13Basel's Tootin. You know, I did like him in college though.
35:16He's a guy that does have the breakaway. He can break tackles and he has the speed.
35:22Yeah. Well, that's the thing. And I think you hit it on the head where Tootin is going to get his opportunity to win this job.
35:30Right. I think that's really what it's going to come down to.
35:34I think the Jaguars are truly going to give both guys the chance to win this job.
35:40And it's going to be a matter of which guy steps up now to, I think physically, definitely the more gifted player.
35:47I think with Rodriguez, you kind of know what you're getting is that sexy.
35:52No, but it's probably something that they feel comfortable that they can trust and they know what they're going to get probably on each play.
36:00It's not going to be a big play, but he's going to fall forward and get you yards.
36:06It kind of reminds me of Zach Charbonnet, Kenneth Walker situation a little bit where Walker was always a flashy player, right?
36:13He's the guy that kind of bounces back and maybe has some negative plays, but the pop plays are really, really nice.
36:20Whereas Zach Charbonnet, people are like, why is this guy in the field?
36:24And it's because the guy never loses yards. He might, he'll get you three yards.
36:29He might not get you 10 yards, but he'll get you three, four yards, which is what they're looking for.
36:36And LaQuint Allen, I think is a big factor here.
36:39He is injured. He did get, didn't play in the preseason game.
36:43So he did get the rest, which I think was a huge tell that they do want to rely on him in the passing game.
36:51But then in practice, like the next, the next practice, he had a soft tissue injury and sounds like he's out for the entire rest of preseason.
37:00So it's going to be a big opportunity for Tootin to step up and catch passes and earn more work in that role as well.
37:08Interesting note. I forgot what I was listening to, but it was somebody, if I was listening to it, it was, it
37:15was somebody that I like and respect. And they made a point that the Jogs last year threw 11 passes total to running backs on third down.
37:24So that kind of makes that third down receiving role, not that exciting, especially with the quarter receivers.
37:30You know what I'm saying? I mean, it was something that I heard and I was like, well, so, you know, something to think about.
37:38I think that is something to think about. I do want to ask you before we leave the fifth round, Travis Etienne
37:45was not a guy that I've been drafting a ton of.
37:49When I, when I looked at Kamara, I just said, man, this guy's going to be involved.
37:55The drumbeat over, over this off season, since Kamara's came back, hasn't been very positive for Travis Etienne.
38:00It sounds like they're very close in a split though.
38:04I still believe Travis would get the majority of the work of the two.
38:08But now Kamara is going to miss at least a month and that could be possibly longer.
38:14He's an older player. It's not like this is a two, three year guy who maybe his body recovers a little faster.
38:21This is Alvin Kamara who's been in the league a long time.
38:25And I think he's approaching 30 if he's not already.
38:28And so Travis Etienne, his, his price point reflects, you know, fifth round 54 overall.
38:33Do you expect Travis Etienne to go higher? Because when I started doing my rankings, now that I know Kamara is going
38:40to be out, I found myself putting Travis Etienne right ahead of Kyron and right behind Javante Williams.
38:46So it would push him into that fourth round.
38:49Are you comfortable taking Etienne that high or is he somebody you've been avoiding?
38:54And is this something that might change your mind with the Kamara injury?
38:58I mean, going back to a very good point you made earlier in the draft season, like last month, Etienne was living
39:05in the fourth round or early fifth at the latest.
39:08Now he's fallen. I've actually used a player that I wasn't getting shares of that in the past week or two.
39:15Now I'm getting shares because I've got him at five, 10, I think the five, six turn.
39:21And, and that's also a factor of playing in the NFFC when these receivers, you know, just keep getting pushed up or
39:28there's that avalanche, that whole third or fourth round is mostly wide receivers.
39:32The running backs are all going to fall to the fifth.
39:36So, uh, you know what? It's not even really Kamara that I think losing Tyson, uh, makes me like him even more.
39:43Cause you know, I think he's going to catch more passes.
39:47I don't even think he's really that great of a pass catcher, but, uh, I do think, you know, I, I like
39:54the, I like the head coach a lot. I think he knows how to run an offense.
39:59He runs a high tempo offense. Only thing in, only thing in new Orleans that has me down is the Tyson injury.
40:07And Shuck seems to not be having a really good camp.
40:10Okay. Yeah. It's a good point. Um, and yeah, I mean, you're talking about loss of targets, a lot of loss of
40:17targets to Kamara that are going to be gone for a little while.
40:22And Tyson, who's going to miss two months. So those got to go somewhere.
40:26Um, so it's a good point to bring up, um, moving along here, let's, uh, let's talk about Jonathan Brooks, who his ADP has really, really risen.
40:35Um, now in this format, I have seen in the FFPC, uh, I think Theo Grevenger, uh, pointed out that Brooks went
40:42as high as like the fourth round. Uh, you know, I think that was a week ago.
40:48Now, format wise, a little bit different than this format.
40:51And like you mentioned, wide receivers get pushed up the board.
40:55So I don't think we're probably what, not likely to see that for Jonathan Brooks, uh, him to get pushed up into
41:02that fourth round, but, um, what do you think about his rise?
41:06And is this a price point that you're, you're willing to take chances on as well?
41:11Like if you look at the board here, he's at six, five, he was pretty much living at five, six turn or
41:18just, you know, maybe the next pick. Usually whoever had that one was going receivers.
41:23And then maybe like taking like a Brooks for the upside shot.
41:27I think the game against the bills, maybe soured some people, which it actually did the opposite for me.
41:33Uh, I pretty much leave every draft if possible with either a share of Brooks or a share of Blake Corum, because
41:40I want that upside shot on one of these two guys.
41:44I have 20, I have over 20 shares of each.
41:47And I watched that preseason game. Their offensive line was trash.
41:51I know they're missing a couple of guys. And to me, my whole bet on Brooks is look, he's, he was very talented.
41:58He didn't really even play that much in Texas.
42:01He got that year after Bijan and he shined, but it's his past catching ability.
42:06And if this offensive line is going to be trash.
42:09And from what I remember the last year or two, the, the Panthers could at least run the ball.
42:16They had, they had good running games. Rico Dattle, what was going off and stuff.
42:20So the passing game is why I'm really all in on Jonathan Brooks and why I think he doesn't fail.
42:27And actually is a guy you want on your roster.
42:30The quarterback last year had what? Three games where he threw for just over 200 yards.
42:35It was like 205 yards or more. Like three times.
42:39Ted McMillan, Uber talent, but quarterback is not good.
42:42The line isn't good. They got to do the dump off passes.
42:46And all you heard in the off season is he wants him in the passing game.
42:51I'm watching clips every week of this kid catching passes and not even just like dump offs.
42:56He's even going down the field a bit. So I'm going to take a shot on that.
43:02I, we talk about it on the live streams about say building backwards.
43:06Say like I wait to the fifth round. Hypothetically, I got the Andre Swift.
43:11I take a Jonathan Brooks. And then I get my RB three later on in like the eighth round.
43:17I get a Dobbins or a Mason. You know what I'm saying?
43:21I feel, I feel strong going in there. I got four wide receivers that are, that are hopefully monsters or at least three of them, you know?
43:30So yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm all in on Brooks as bleak as Carolina is.
43:34I think he's the silver lining. Okay. Let's let's take one more quick break.
43:39We'll come back. We're going to get through the next couple of rounds.
43:43We're going to probably stop at probably top 100.
43:46And then I'll give you a chance to tell me about a player, maybe going outside of top 100 that you are
43:53still grabbing value on right now, but let's take one more quick break and we'll come right back.
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45:45Recent news with Josh Downs. You have Keenan Allen now signed.
45:48Alec Pierce is the news with Alec Pierce. Matt's all over the place.
45:52I don't know what the heck is going on with Alec Pierce.
45:56It's like, you know, I don't know if they're trying to cover themselves and Steichen's trying to just stay really, really positive
46:04because it feels like we're getting different reports all the time.
46:07He's still not in team drills, but he's moving around.
46:10He looks good. But then a couple days prior, you know, people are all gloom and doom.
46:16And now they go ahead and they sign Keenan Allen.
46:19And so, you know, you can believe it two separate ways.
46:23It's either they're not as comfortable as they thought with Josh Downs being in two wide receiver sets.
46:29And they, you know, they gave him a chance in camp to earn that.
46:33And maybe they don't like what they've seen or, you know, they don't really love the timeline with Alec Pierce.
46:40And they're trying to cover themselves. They probably probably missed out on Stefan Diggs, Debo Samuel, those guys waiting this thing out.
46:47And now they bring in Keenan Allen. And, you know, we'll see what happens.
46:52But Josh Downs going off the board at 71.
46:55Do you expect his price to move at all with the Keenan Allen news?
46:59Was he a guy that you were drafting at all?
47:02And does this news affect that, in your opinion?
47:05Real quick, Alec Pierce. I haven't drafted him at all this year.
47:09Me too. Me too. And I loved Alec Pierce last year.
47:13Fantasy, he was awesome. And I like to bet the receiving props, he was one of the best players in that all year.
47:20Yeah, longest catch kind of thing. Yeah, he would have 60 yards on the first drive.
47:26But now he's actually just talking about, like, how things change.
47:29As you mentioned, you brought that point up. So I want to piggyback on that.
47:34He started off in, like, the end of the fifth round, say, early on in draft season.
47:40Then he's been living, like, around that 6-7 turn.
47:43Now he's going into, he's falling into the eighth round, I'm starting to see, in some drafts.
47:48And that's when I'm starting to get interested. Because even if he's going to come back and maybe, say, miss, even if
47:55he missed a month, even if they put him on puck, and I can get a guy with, you know, his upside, then I start getting interested.
48:04But it's just funny, he was a guy that I wasn't going to pay up fifth round.
48:10Didn't even like him really at the 6-7 turn.
48:13But, you know, he might become a guy that, hey, I'm going to get a couple of shares before the season's over.
48:20Yeah. And so with that note, has Josh Downs' price tag moved up to be too expensive for you?
48:26And do you think that we could get maybe a little bit of a pullback, like you talk about with stocks, a
48:33little bit of a pullback with Josh Downs and his price with the Keenan Allen news?
48:38Yeah. And again, just to be transparent, we talked about Parker Washington.
48:42Josh Downs is probably my second most owned receiver.
48:45So I'm rolling, you know, a lot here. But I've been a Josh Downs believer for the last couple of years.
48:52And it just hasn't come to fruition. I believe in the talent.
48:56It's like in Moneyball when Jonah Hill does the thing.
48:59The problem with this guy. The problem with Josh Downs is just opportunity.
49:04When he plays two-thirds of the snaps, he crushes.
49:06And I do believe this year he's getting the opportunity, even with Keenan Allen.
49:11The thing I didn't get, and I think they really had no choice, and they brought Keenan Allen in because of the familiarity with the head coach.
49:20But they needed an ex-receiver to replace Alec Pierce for the time being.
49:24Like a Kayshawn Booty would have been a night.
49:27But they traded all those picks in the source trade last year.
49:31Diggs is probably going to take a dip here.
49:34And I think he went in the last draft maybe like 7-4 or something like that.
49:39And I will buy that all the time. The other thing with Keenan Allen, look, he's going to be a pain in the ass.
49:47Let's not kid ourselves. But his first seven games last year, he was a house of fire.
49:53He had seven targets in every game. His next nine games, he had seven targets once.
49:58The last game of the regular season, he had 13 targets, seven catches for 36 yards.
50:03You know, I kind of think Father Time is catching up to Keenan.
50:07You know, he'll get open. He can get open in this short, intermediate area.
50:12But I think Downs is going to be playing all over the field.
50:16It's a bet I'm going to, you know, die on that hill.
50:20Kind of, you know, it might even be a financial one, but we'll see.
50:25Tell me, I want to selfishly talk about a running back situation.
50:28Get your thoughts. Because I don't know if I'm, you know, there are certain times where you get hyper tunnel vision on a player.
50:36And you just can't stop drafting because of the price.
50:40For me, that's Rico Dowdle this year. I don't know if he's ever drafting at all, but Jalen Warren still goes, you
50:47know, a whole round ahead of him. And right now, you know, all reports that I've read is that Rico has looked phenomenal in camp.
50:55I personally think Rico is going to be the lead back here.
50:59I think both guys are going to catch a lot of passes.
51:03I think Rico's going to be glad they'll get a lot of good.
51:07Well, I'm still kind of shocked that his price point is where it is.
51:12It's one of my favorite coaches on board. In the best ball format of $150 for NFC on a best ball championship,
51:19I've seen him slip, you know, into the 10th round.
51:22So, RJ Harvey followed the 10th round last night, which I know there's a lot of Jonah Coleman love out there right now, too.
51:30But staying on topic here with Jalen, Rico Dowdle, are you a Rico guy?
51:34Because I've called up that down before I was not aware that you were a fan of those guys.
51:41Is Rico a guy that you are a fan of?
51:44I really don't have much Rico, I'll be honest with you.
51:48And it's really probably because I've taken like a Mason or a Dobbins there to be my RB3, you know, and now
51:55I got to get a tight end or add one more receiver or these.
51:59You want to know what it is, too. You just look at this ninth round like you're going around there.
52:06Sometimes you got to be a little aggressive. I know it says they all go in the ninth round, but some of
52:13these guys will go in the eighth. But like a Herbert, a Lawrence, a Daniels, a Williams.
52:19For me, I really have always been a Jalen Warren guy.
52:22But I think everything you said was right. It was every report I hear from everybody and the head coach had him
52:29in Dallas is that he's going to be the lead back.
52:33But it's PPR. Steel is running back about like 100 and something times last year.
52:38I don't know the exact number. Yeah, I think Daniels, I think, had 80 on his own last year.
52:44Yes. So I think it was like a 114.
52:47I don't know if that number was right. Yeah, it was some insane number.
52:52It was insane. So for me, third down is going to be Warren and he's still going to get all these dump off passes.
52:59Now, I don't have a lot of Warren either, and I've always been a Warren guy.
53:05So I'm really not drafting much Warren. I'm not drafting much Dowdle.
53:09But I do think Dowdle is like probably the last guy on the board to get.
53:14You know, otherwise you're just basically an RB2 land or you're going with like a Kroski bill.
53:19Who I'm not really super excited about this year, especially with the Tunsil news.
53:24And so Dowdle would be like that last line of defense for like, you know, having a starting running back or having
53:31a running back that's at least getting half the share of it.
53:35But I don't have it. But I think everything you said is correct based on all the reports I hear.
53:42So I think maybe both of them can, you know.
53:45Well, at their price point, look, the Pittsburgh Steelers are really, really interesting team.
53:49It's a very easy team to stack if you like to play best ball.
53:54But really the price points on the entire offense is dirt cheap.
53:58Mike McCarthy, I do believe that he's going to make this offense better.
54:02Their defense might regress, but they've been regressing. People don't really talk about it a ton, but their defense has regressed a little bit the last few years.
54:11But I overall think that there's just a there's some value.
54:15It's just a matter of picking the right guy here in this offense, even with Pittman and with DK.
54:21I don't find myself drafting either them too much.
54:24But if I am taking one, it tends to be Pittman for me.
54:28But looking at where Rico goes on the board, you know, I get it.
54:33You want to be aggressive and you look at where the quarterbacks.
54:37It's like you're staring at Jaden Daniels on the board.
54:40You don't have a quarterback. You've taken Rico Dowdle when you've already got three running backs.
54:45It's hard. Right. And so this is one of those situations where when you understand the room and you understand where the board is falling.
54:53Right. You have to, you know, you just have to play the board and play the environment.
54:59That's why we all it's like it's like the old saying.
55:03Everybody's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
55:06Right. Like same thing here. Like you have to be reactive a lot of times with the board.
55:12And when value falls, like I said, I mean, it's insane when you look at Jaden Daniels going at pick 100.
55:19But it's just the way this this goes. People don't want to.
55:23The difference in points per game for the quarterback position is not very high.
55:27But it is crazy to me because the elite quarterbacks, Jaden Daniels could easily finish his quarterback too and give you a massive positional advantage.
55:36And he's still getting pushed down so far. And look, it's not even just the quarterbacks.
55:41Like if I have a RB2 or I've got my RB3 here, if I can get Sam LaPorta, I mean, Howard Fanning, I would go would probably first.
55:50But him or LaPorta, I mean, LaPorta to me is poised for a big year as well.
55:55I mean, they got a last place schedule. I think that offense bounces back in a big way.
56:01So you got those two guys there. So it's like you're choosing between premium tight ends.
56:07I won't say the elites. We'll leave those for the guys up top.
56:11But I think these guys are pretty special. And I think Fanning has the ability at his age to be one of the best.
56:19But those guys, those quarterbacks, it's like. It's hard to pass up.
56:23I mean, are you really like you sit there and you say, am I really going to sit here and take Jacoby
56:30Myers right now over possibly a guy that can win me weeks?
56:34Is Jacoby Myers really winning you weeks? Probably not.
56:37You want to laugh about Jacoby Myers? And look, I think he's a solid NFL player.
56:42I made my bet on the live stream yesterday with my partner.
56:46He mentioned Jacoby Myers. And I'm like, under no circumstances are we drafting Jacoby?
56:50And it's not that I don't like the player.
56:53Again, it's solid NFL. But I have all the Parker Washington.
56:57I even have BTJ. I'm like, I've made these bets on the Carolina offense.
57:01I don't want to root for this guy on one team.
57:05I'm sorry. It just makes no sense for me.
57:08It's like I'm betting against myself. I just can't do it.
57:12And look, you're in a tournament base. I mean, you don't want to totally go upside and just take every risk possible.
57:19But sure, sometimes you need a little bit of floor.
57:22I get it. But I'm typically not drafting floor a ton in drafts, especially in tournaments.
57:27And so I totally, totally am with you there.
57:30And Sam Laporta is actually a guy that I actually have Sam Laporta ranked as my number four tight end this year.
57:37So I love Sam Laporta. So I think it's a great call out, too.
57:42I find myself drafting him a ton. Now, we're pretty much winding down here at the end of the show.
57:48I do want to give you a chance to name one player just that you find yourself that we haven't talked about.
57:56It can be a player, you know, past the top 100.
57:59It can be a guy inside the top 100 that maybe you're higher on than other people or you're not really understanding
58:06why their ADP is so high or so low.
58:09And then I'll give you one of mine as well.
58:13I mean, for me, it's Harold Fanning. Well, I get the offense, the quarterback, and they drafted two hard receivers.
58:19But this kid went ballistic his senior year, what they call duck foot and all this.
58:24He's got duck feet. The guy at David Njoko last year, terrible quarterbacks, terrible offense, had an amazing rookie season.
58:31You know, and I just think he's, what, 21 years old?
58:35I think he only gets better. But again, like I said, there's other tight ends.
58:39Like, if you're a LaPorter guy, I want to have LaPorter as well.
58:44So I could see that. But he would definitely be one of my guys that I just, I think it's a gift
58:51that you're getting here in that range. Yeah. And it goes back to when we talked in the beginning of the show, a herd mentality.
58:59Like, we don't want to just zig one other zag, right?
59:03I typically, my motto, I typically don't draft tight ends high.
59:06I don't draft quarterbacks high. The only time I do is when a guy slips past his ADP and it's an elite
59:13player and the value is just too hard to pass up.
59:17And I'll take a chance on him. But this is an exact reason as to why you necessarily don't have to, right?
59:24I mean, you have guys that could be elite.
59:27I mean, make no mistake about it. Sam LaPorter could be elite this year.
59:32Held Fanning could be elite this year. There are cases to be made.
59:36And these quarterbacks around them could be elite this year.
59:39So it's like, why spend that capital on those positions that feel like luxury picks?
59:44And then you're chasing another position and you don't want to put yourself behind the eight ball.
59:50That's typically my strategy. I'm going to throw out one guy too, and then we'll wrap things up.
59:56Debo Samuel for me has been a guy that I really like his cost right now.
60:01You talk about there's not a lot of value.
60:04There's not a ton of players once you get past the 10th, 11th round, 13th round.
60:09Debo Samuel right now goes off the board to pick 126.
60:13He goes back to the 49ers from weeks 1 to 11 last year.
60:17He was wide receiver 16 in points per game.
60:20He finds his home back in San Fran. He did talk a little bit about how his struggles going to Washington, how he just wasn't very happy there.
60:29And he understood that the grass isn't necessarily greener.
60:32He looks to be in really, really good shape.
60:35He's lean. And he also talked a little bit about how when he got that pneumonia, he put on some weight.
60:42And I think that was a major factor, right?
60:45I think he kind of, he was in a bad spot, bad spot health wise.
60:49Then the trade rumors came up. He ends up getting traded because he couldn't stay healthy.
60:55And then now he finds his way back to the 49ers.
60:58We were drafting Ricky Pearsall. I was a major, major fan of Ricky Pearsall.
61:03I think you might be a stripling fan. So maybe you're not as high on Debo.
61:08But to me, it's like, I'm getting a piece of the 49ers offense with a weapon that they know how to use
61:15in an offense that has a lot of guys that have issues staying healthy.
61:20I'm getting a guy that's in a possibly a top five offense this year at, you know, pick 126, who looked really,
61:27really good last year until he got banged up as well.
61:31Well, the crazy thing is stripling's now going pretty much, you know, seventh round, maybe sometimes in the eighth.
61:37But he's pretty much living in the seventh round.
61:40Strib City has arrived, at least, you know, in the eyes of the high-stake drafters.
61:45That has definitely, and the other thing is, you know, like, who's remaining?
61:49Like, Kittle, I was worried about, you know, 33 years old.
61:52I wasn't really drafting him early on, but I'm starting to draft him.
61:57He's looking good. And, again, I was a big Ricky Pearsall guy.
62:01I was drafting him. You know, he was the guy that my fourth receiver, like, his price was so perfect.
62:07And, you know, he's gone. So Strib is, like, now he's been probably one of the biggest movers.
62:13It wasn't that long ago where he might have been going, like, just past Debo.
62:18And now he's like... People made fun of the pick so much, and now it's like people are playing catch-up because they
62:25want to get exposure to him so badly because they saw, you know, the usage in the preseason, and it looked good.
62:32And, honestly, that's why I was really harping on, like, the dates and the format that you use.
62:38If you're going to play best ball, you go to best ball form.
62:42If you're going to play online championship. Because if you're doing a week or two, you're using stale prices, and, you know,
62:50you're going to be like, oh, God, this guy's off the board already.
62:54And all you really need is, like, eight to ten drafts.
62:57You really don't need more than that. Yeah. I guess if you're a degenerate like yourself, you know, you can't stop.
63:04Well said. It's all good. You scratch the itch, and it becomes fun.
63:09But this was a good show. It was a lot of fun having you on.
63:14You're obviously going to be here with the Fantasy Empire.
63:17Love, love listening to your show in season, I think, you guys.
63:21It's kind of one of those old school vibes where you guys, you know, it doesn't have to be a bunch of guys screaming at each other.
63:30I know there's all these exciting best ball shows with all these young guys.
63:34But you guys really, really break down the process well in season.
63:38And so I think it's a really good show, and it's very informative.
63:42So I really find myself enjoying it. So if you guys don't check out the show, make sure you are checking out the show.
63:50And, Matt, really, really appreciate it. Good luck this season.
63:53Thank you guys so much for watching, and we'll see you guys next time.
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