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1:03This is the My Dimension Program. I'm here with Kyle Dvorak from Roto World, one of my favorite places to go for fantasy information, analysis, etc., etc., etc.
1:11There's a bunch of teams and a bunch of situations in particular that we have not talked enough about.
1:16Talking about the Minnesota Vikings and their passing game, the Denver Broncos and their running game and on down the board.
1:22We just haven't talked enough about certain situations on certain teams because, hey, they're stable.
1:26Nothing to see here. The Lions passing game. What more do you need to talk about?
1:31Actually, we do need to talk about it. So there's a lot to talk about today on the My Dimension Program.
1:37No one, no one is talking about the Denver passing game at all.
1:41And then I go to Roto World and there's a little bit of a reminder there.
1:45A little news item on one Cortland Sutton. That Cortland Sutton has sort of, he has, he's come to terms with the
1:51fact that he is going to have less targets.
1:54He's going to deal with less targets. He's going to have less opportunity this year to score fantasy points and touchdowns and everything else.
2:01And it's just, well, what is going to, so few people are talking about the Denver Broncos passing game.
2:06They're drafting Jalen Waddell in those early mid rounds of best ball and really not thinking about it after that.
2:12It's funny because when you were setting this up, my thought was like, yeah, I just dropped Jalen Waddell.
2:17I frankly don't think about it a lot. Like, is he incredible?
2:21No, he's probably not. But is he very good?
2:23Yeah, he's a really solid player. Like when you look at since entering the NFL, both his yards per route run and
2:30his targets per route run actually fit very comfortably in a similar mold of wide receivers who are not true wide receiver
2:36ones in the sense of like they're superstars. But they've all been given chances to be their team's wide receiver one.
2:42He actually comps just by yards and targets per route run very closely to DK Metcalf, Zay Flowers, Devo Samuel.
2:48These guys who like, I don't even want to say in a pinch over a four or five year stretch.
2:53You're content with them as your football team's wide receiver one.
2:56You haven't shot for the stars with them, but they can functionally lead a team's passing game comfortably.
3:01And Jalen Waddell has at no point since his rookie season, maybe since his second year, I think since the second year
3:08or his rookie season had the opportunity to do that.
3:11He set the receptions record as a rookie when he did have the opportunity to be his team's wide receiver one.
3:17It was on a really bad Dolphins team. So I do just kind of take it for granted that like, yeah, Waddell's good.
3:23Yeah, the Broncos do pass a lot and Phoenix is fine.
3:26Waddell's going to score a lot of fantasy points.
3:29I do think the downstream effect, which Court and Sutton knows apparently, very self-aware of him to know that the downstream effect
3:35of them trading for Jalen Waddell is like, guess my days is a top 36 fantasy receiver.
3:40I'm sure that's what he's thinking. My days is a top 36 fantasy receiver.
3:44They're kind of over. And I think they probably kind of are.
3:47Yeah. He's like, you know, I don't think that we have any individuals or personalities in our offense are going to be
3:54saying things like, hey, I need this. I need that.
3:56I think I have a bunch of guys that are willing to put their pride aside and say, what do I need
4:03to do for this team to be successful? That is code for I'm going to be a team player.
4:08I'm a company man. I'm a company man. And you know what?
4:11Jalen Waddell is the best player we have on offense.
4:14Like he's he's he's their best offensive playmaker. It is important to go back in time to 2021 when there was no
4:21Tyree kill and he did put up 15.4 fantasy points per game.
4:24And he was lauded as like, hey, this guy is the same draft class as Jamar Chase.
4:29And it's like, hey, get Jamar Chase. And then just after Jamar Chase and notch down, there's Jalen Waddell.
4:34And then Tyree kill arrives and the targets collapse from 142 as a rookie down to 116, 104, 100.
4:40So he has a 140 target season in him.
4:42Probably it's going to be this year because how old is this guy?
4:46He is 27. He's in his prime comparable to Steve Smith.
4:49He's going to have a great year. Just get ready for it.
4:52Yeah, and I think it's important to note that not only did he have that rookie season, but he's played extremely successfully
4:59in a completely different style of offense and style of player.
5:02That rookie season, he was like for better or worse, like this is all the offense could support was the like low ADOT checkdown merchant.
5:09We need a wide receiver one because the rest of this team is terrible.
5:13We don't care too much about your efficiency. Getting the ball in your hand, Jalen Waddell, is really all this offense has to offer.
5:20And we're going to do it as often as we can.
5:23And it results in like, yeah, he has a ton of targets and a ton of catches, not a ton of yards.
5:29But then we see him play almost like truly like almost an opposite style of football where you are the hyper efficient wide receiver to opposite Tyree kill.
5:37It's like the opposite of the ski of the checkdown merchant stuff that he did as a rookie.
5:42He was really good at both of those things.
5:45And he continued to do more so of the field stretching wide receivers to stop once Tyree kill was there.
5:50He was really good at that. He's really good at just earning a lot of targets short and intermediate.
5:56He's kind of done it all throughout his career.
5:58It just hasn't happened all at once because his team has either not needed it when they had Tyree kill.
6:04They couldn't support an elite deep passing game in his first season because they were terrible that year.
6:09Now this is probably the best opportunity he's ever gotten to both consolidate targets, but do so in a way that isn't
6:15just like PPR merchant stuff the way it was as a rookie.
6:19So yeah, I think he could just do it all, do it all pretty well.
6:23And now do it all on an offense that is functioning well with him as the clear wide receiver.
6:29Yeah, he's most similar to Zay Flowers in terms of when you look at the ability and the situation, what you can expect from him this year.
6:36I prefer Flowers, but once Flowers is off the board, give me Jalen Waddle, man.
6:40I mean, every year he does it a different way.
6:43Puts up the big air yard numbers, 1,300 plus air yards, two seasons.
6:47Had sub 900 air yards to other seasons where he was doing it with Yak.
6:51I mean, we have a year where he had 18.1 yards per reception following a year where he had a 9.8 yards per reception.
6:58And he is just being deployed wherever they need him.
7:01And that's pretty much what Cortland Sutton was alluding to in his quote.
7:05He was saying, hey, we just kind of do what we need to do.
7:09And if he has that attitude, Jalen Waddle has that attitude.
7:12Dude, that's really good for the Denver Broncos. Like if you're a Denver Broncos fan, if you think that the Broncos are
7:18going to exceed expectations, whether it would be their over-under win totals, whatever it is.
7:22Like this is all a really good sign for the Broncos offense.
7:26I think the Broncos offense just in general is healthy.
7:29And that's why the two players that I'm investing in are the players that they keep talking about.
7:34When they talk about the offense, other than Bo Nix, of course, the quarterback, the two players they talk about a lot
7:40in Denver are Jalen Waddle and J.K. Dobbins. J.K.
7:42Dobbins and Jalen Waddle. Now, we as fantasy gamers love to talk about R.J.
7:46Harvey, love to talk about rookies like Jonah Coleman.
7:49But in reality, it's like the team captain is J.K.
7:52Dobbins. And he is the one that's talked about.
7:54It's like, hey, we got we got Nix. We got Dobbins.
7:58You know, we got we got Sertan. I'm like, wait a second.
8:01Nix, Dobbins, Sertan. What is that? That's the firepower you're right.
8:04And they're like, yeah, this guy is a size speed specimen.
8:07He's been dealing with bad knees, but he's had injections and surgeries.
8:11And this year he's showing up for the first time, not rehabbing any injuries.
8:15And he looks pretty damn explosive out there in these early practices.
8:18And it's like, OK, OK, you don't have to convince me.
8:21Right. I just drafted him. I'm actually in a startup right now.
8:25And it's all flex, half PPR. And you're goddamn right.
8:27I drafted J.K. Dobbins. J.K. Dobbins, half PPR. Right.
8:30Half PPR, all flex with super flex. I got J.K.
8:33Dobbins at the 1208. I'll pull this up right now.
8:36I'm going to pull this up on the screen right now so we can all check it out.
8:41This is a startup that I'm in. I'm actually on the clock.
8:44So this will be fun to talk about. I don't think I'm going to be drafting any Broncos in this particular draft spot.
8:51But as you can see, I traded down. We are now in round 17.
8:55And someone really wanted my pick to trade up for Catron Allen, who will probably be a game day inactive to start the season.
9:02So game day inactive Catron Allen was a highly sought after asset, apparently.
9:05And I was happy to deal that pick and bank an extra pick in a few rounds.
9:10I think round 22, I got an extra pick out of it.
9:14So I'll take it. And now I'm drafting almost back to back right now.
9:17I'm in the mode where I have a bunch of quarterbacks to get everyone caught up on how this draft has played out.
9:24I basically went running back for the first six rounds because I could.
9:28I was like, this is half PPR, all flex guys.
9:31Why not Cam Scadaboo? Why not Christian McCaffrey? Why not Brees Hall?
9:34Why not Jonathan Taylor? Why not Jeremiah Love? And I started with Puka Nakua.
9:38Finally, at the 705, I finally decided to go quarterback after playing chicken on quarterback.
9:42Kyler Murray was off the board. I wanted Kyler Murray.
9:45We'll talk about Kyler Murray later. I love Kyler Murray this year.
9:49He's certainly going to be a topic of conversation with myself and Kyle.
9:52But I went Matthew Stafford. I think he's pretty good.
9:55He did pretty well last year, and I think he's going to do well again this year.
10:00Pretty sure he's going to play next year based on how they structured his contract and just the incentives and the fact
10:06that Aaron Rodgers is still in the league. So I feel like this is a nice two-year window.
10:11I have a quarterback with Matthew Stafford. Then David Montgomery at the 808.
10:15Daniel Jones at the 905. Chuba Hubbard at the 1008.
10:18Brissette, Dobbins, Kelsey, because it is tight end super, super premium.
10:21It's half PPR for running backs and wide receivers.
10:23It's 1.25 PPR for tight ends. So my plan was hit all the half PPR super backs all the way through J.K.
10:30Dobbins. And then make sure you take advantage of the tight end scoring by taking value tight ends.
10:35And Kelsey at the 1305. I know this seems like an old team, but it is a Jeremiah Love team.
10:41It is a Cam Scadaboo team. It is a Puka Nakua team.
10:44So it's not that old. Geno Smith, Shader Sanders.
10:47But now we've got essentially back-to-back picks. And I am pretty locked in to taking advantage of this tight end scoring.
10:52We are considering Eli Raritan. We are considering Michael Mayer.
10:55We're considering Greg Dulcich. Who should I draft? I mean, you are considering these guys.
11:00We, if we average out our who we are considering, I think we're just taking Raritan.
11:04And look, I thought Michael Mayer coming into the NFL was frankly a really good prospect, but his own team doesn't really seem to have that belief.
11:12This team has been pretty stupid for the past few years.
11:15So I'm not going to put a ton of weight in the fact, like, you know, the Raiders, they couldn't let Brock Bowers fall any further.
11:22If you remember that draft, he was supposed to go top 10 and he kept slipping.
11:27Pick 11, pick 12, pick 13. And eventually they were like, someone has to draft this guy.
11:32He's a superstar. We'll figure it out. Frankly, one of the only smart things they've done.
11:36At one point, it seemed like he, he like did seem to very clearly want to trade to get off the team.
11:43So I think probably his relationship with the team has impacted his playing time.
11:47And then Brock Bowers has obviously mostly nuked that playing time.
11:50But if you're looking at a guy who by the end of his rookie contract has done nothing, I'll just re-roll the dice.
11:56I'm probably a worse prospect than Eli Raritan, but I'll re-roll the dice, get to start right over at that rookie contract.
12:02And it would not shock me if by the end of this year, Eli Raritan is at least forcing a committee, if
12:09not being straight up the starter over Hunter Henry, who's fine.
12:12Hunter Henry is a perfectly acceptable starter. But I think when you look at what this team wants to do, they want
12:18to be one of the most explosive passing attacks in the NFL.
12:22Raritan as like a super Rass, big dude, seam stretching tight end.
12:25He really does contribute to that philosophy of playing offense.
12:28Will he contribute to that in week one? Probably not.
12:31In two or three? Probably not. Midway through the season, maybe we start seeing his routes tick up.
12:36End of the year, if they're planning on him being the long-term starter, which I think is probably the plan.
12:41I think he'd be contributing at the end of the year.
12:45And I think he'd be contributing in a way that really does hit your fantasy lineups in a meaningful way, in a
12:51way that Mayer may still be good, but he's probably not doing that this year.
12:55Greg Dulcich maybe is contributing this year, but I do think when you look at the long arc of history, guys who
13:01do so little through their career like Greg Dulcich and don't have an alibi as strong as Michael Mayer.
13:07Playing behind Brock Bowers is a legit good alibi, but you don't have that kind of alibi for Greg Dulcich.
13:12I want to draft Greg Dulcich. I liked him a long time ago.
13:16There's a clear path to targets here. Guys who do as little as he's done are very thin bets.
13:22So I'll just roll, I think take the best re-roll the dice with Raritan.
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15:01There's also Jordan James because I do have Christian McCaffrey.
15:04It seems early for Jordan James, but you start to see the Caelan Blacks, Adam Randles get drafted, Caleb Johnson, Tyler Algier.
15:10So it's starting to get to that point, but I think we're probably a round away from needing to draft a guy like Jordan James.
15:17I could be wrong. The beauty of all flexes, you don't need to worry about handcuffing running backs.
15:22You also don't even need to worry about the tight end position.
15:26Like nothing matters. Just get guys in the starting lineup and it could be anybody.
15:30I almost described this as an anarchy format. Like while you were going through your lineup, that's what I was thinking.
15:36And then we both reached the same conclusion that both nothing matters here, but that means everything matters in some opposite reflective way.
15:43Yeah. And if things break Raritan's way, he would be a smash here.
15:46And it's funny because I've been in a lot of startups that are tight end premium, not tight end premium.
15:52In any case, Raritan always goes before Hunter Henry and Dynasty.
15:55Always. And now to see him here is still available after Max Clare is off the board.
16:00After Terrence Ferguson is off the board. I'm very happy to, I'm just going to go pick them right now.
16:06Can I just pick them right now? Go for it.
16:09Go for it. Let her rip. Oh, that felt good.
16:11Oh, oh. So yeah. Then we have to decide.
16:14I think we should we go. Okay. We have another pick coming up in a moment.
16:18Should we keep going rookies with like an Oscar Delp or a Justin Jolie?
16:22Or do we, do we just, do we go Greg Dulcich and get the production this year?
16:27Because he could accrue some serious value. He's still young.
16:30He's athletic and still young. Oh, Juwan Jennings just went.
16:33So I think we go back to tight end, but it's the same debate is we have Dulcich who is going to
16:39probably accrue the most value this year. We have Michael Mayer who will be well positioned for a big contract and a
16:45bump in fantasy value, especially dynasty value next year.
16:48And then we have potential breakout tight ends that are rookies that are athletic rookies in Oscar Delp or Justin Jolie.
16:54Which direction do you want to go? I know I just kind of bagged on Greg Dulcich, but it was in the
17:00context of, I think Eli Raritan is a better pick.
17:03Like I like to be, I want to be taking Greg Dulcich in particularly in best box.
17:08I do think, like I said, the long arc of history is not favorable to guys who do nothing for a long
17:14period of time, but this is a unique situation.
17:17I do truly think there's a lot of scenarios in which among the wide receivers and tight ends on the Dolphins, he
17:23just leads the team in targets, like start to finish.
17:26HAN probably leads the team targets in total, but as far as the wide receivers and tight ends go, I do think
17:32Dulcich is probably just the best outright pass catcher this team has.
17:36They're not going to throw a lot. I don't know if he's that good, but at these prices, it's, I think the
17:42best best bet remaining on the board just for pure volume in a format in which volume does matter more for tight ends.
17:48Obviously there's another running back to consider because it is half PPR Sean Tucker.
17:52I like that one. You didn't mention him. So I was going to ignore it.
17:57I was like, oh, he didn't mention them. I'll just, we could go Sean Tucker.
18:01I think of all the guys that are available right now, Sean Tucker has the contingent value where any injury helps him immensely injury to Bucky Irving.
18:09He'll, he'll, or Kenneth Gainwell, and he'll have a pop.
18:11And he has an all purpose skillset. He only fell out of the draft because of a heart condition.
18:17That's something that is no longer a concern. I, I'm, I was about to, to just bundle the tight ends and just pick the best one.
18:24But now I'm looking at, at who's available. And I'm, I'm starting to lean Sean Tucker.
18:29No, the pick is Tucker. You didn't mention Tucker.
18:31So I was like, I'm not the, I'm not the GM in this team.
18:35I don't need to be giving my feedback on every player.
18:38But as soon as you brought up Tucker, I was like, okay, we've gotten to the right place here.
18:44I agree. Like Tucker, every time Tucker gets on the field and they give him 10 touches, like, oh, there's another hundred yard game.
18:51Like there's another multi-touchdown game. Does he get on the field all that much this year?
18:55I'm not sure. I truly don't tell you, but if like, like you said, if anything happens to probably either of the
19:01starters, there's enough role for him to be fantasy relevant.
19:04And he sort of strikes me as maybe like the Michael mayor type where maybe not, you know, this coming year, but
19:11within the next year or two, once he hits free agency, some team will see what he's done and value him quite highly.
19:17So I think there's both room for some growth this year based on injuries ahead of him, or just playing himself into
19:23a committee role and probably a room for a lot of growth, maybe down the road in a year or two.
19:29So, okay. Final answer. If we're going running back, Sean Tucker or Ollie Gordon?
19:33Oh, Sean Tucker. Like one of the, no, it's easily Sean.
19:36We're going Sean Tucker. Oh, we just did it.
19:39We can take it. Oh man. I I'm so glad we did this because as much Dulcich as I already have, and I want more.
19:46And as much as I love Dulcich and he is still young because it is dynasty.
19:51And I do just like the idea of getting a guy that I think could earn a big next contract.
19:56That's kind of why I'm like, oh, he's like leaning mayor a little bit in that case.
20:01Cause he has like the most potential. He has the draft capital.
20:05He has the physical profile. He has the college production with Sean Tucker.
20:08He's got the size, the speed, the all-purpose skill set, and both these guys could earn big contracts or reasonable contracts that,
20:15that would dictate significant opportunity in 2027 with contingent value in case of an injury this year.
20:19So really I think, yeah, we circled around it a couple of times.
20:23We did a couple of loops around the airport and then we landed the plane nicely with the upside tight end in
20:29Raritan and then the upside running back because we have our starting lineup, man.
20:33We have, we don't need to worry too much about Greg Dulcich's target share because these are players on our bench that
20:40we just want to have the ability to inject into our lineup if things break their way.
20:44Yeah. I don't really like, I'm not sure who the other running backs were there, but I think just as purely a
20:51talent-based bet both in this format, but honestly, for me, it's been in best ball too.
20:55Like Tucker is, he'll have somewhat of a role.
20:58It might not hit your lineup all that often, but it was purely a talent-based bet.
21:02It does just seem like if I were drafting a real life NFL team, but I was using like the 16th round
21:09and beyond that are available to me in best ball drafts.
21:12He just would clearly be the best running back as far as real life NFL value goes.
21:17And I think he has a small role, but it legitimately, you know, he could put up, he could score and have,
21:23you know, 50, 60 rushing yards in a game just on eight, 10 carries got a lot of goal line work last year.
21:29They didn't maybe don't seem to trust Bucky Irving that role.
21:32The standalone role is enough to crack your lineup, but the talent is enough to blow away all.
21:38Yeah. Like all the other picks in like, you know, the late rounds of best box.
21:42He's just actually good. I feel like I'm Tucker there, but my, honestly, my pitch for Tucker almost ended with in a
21:48year, we could be viewing him like Chris Rodriguez.
21:51I do think he's a better player than Chris Rodriguez.
21:54The setup right now for Rodriguez is probably better.
21:56Like I look, I love tootin. I'm a tootin slappy to my core.
22:00I think he's very good. You are. You're tootin slappy.
22:03Tootin slappy. With that being said, a lot of the players that slappies love, they just don't hit.
22:08Like that's, you hope you hit at a higher rate than the market.
22:12You don't hope every pick you get is correct.
22:14Tootin could be bad. And that would be really good for Chris Rodriguez.
22:18So I don't know. Maybe he should have been the pick there.
22:21I don't think he's as good as Sean Tucker.
22:24I do think the 2026, how many carries does he have?
22:27It's probably more. I think we have enough. We haven't with JK Dobbins and Hubbard and David Montgomery.
22:32I think we have enough running backs that give us early down appeal over and above what Chris Rodriguez offers.
22:38I think we're good. I think we're good. Yeah.
22:40Tucker's a shoot for the moon pick amongst. I want to shoot for the moon at this point.
22:46Our starting lineup was set a few rounds ago.
22:48Travis Kelsey wouldn't even enter our starting lineup at this point, much less Chris Rodriguez.
22:52Also, a guy like Chris Rodriguez, sometimes they make it back to you.
22:56It's like no one really wants to make that pick.
22:59No one really wants to push the button on Jordan Mason.
23:02No one really wants to push the button on Chris Rodriguez.
23:05So sometimes I just end up passing on them and then begrudgingly drafting them around after I was considering them because it's
23:11like, hey, no one really wants these guys. But eventually they need to be drafted.
23:16What do you think about the contingent value? Speaking of like a talk about, I mean, a scenario or a situation or
23:22a group of players that no one talks about.
23:25I mean, the Houston Texans backfield. I mean, no one is interested in this.
23:29But, you know, I just saw, you know, on Roto World some news about Woody Marks and that Woody Marks is going
23:35to have a role, which we knew we knew he's going to be a satellite back.
23:39But he almost had 200 carries last year and he's not going to come close to that.
23:44And it's just interesting to see the type of fantasy spin that you can put on a particular player when it says,
23:50oh, well, he's Woody Marks going to have a lot of versatility this year.
23:54Like he's going to have a lot of he's they're going to deploy him in a lot of different ways.
24:00And then we actually break it down. If one of those ways is special teams and the other way is like third and long.
24:07Well, he's going to be pass blocking. He's going to be on kick return duty.
24:11It's not really going to be scoring fantasy points, but it is fun to say that he's versatile and they're going to
24:17deploy him all over the place at the end of the day is the David Montgomery show.
24:22So what do you think of that Houston backfield?
24:25That's how I've been treating it. I mean, they spent a surprising amount for like who was last year veteran backup running back David Montgomery.
24:32He did play well last year. He was particularly efficient.
24:35He was a good and rush yards over expected.
24:37Like he was decent yards after contact. He's had good pass catching numbers in a limited pass catching role in Detroit, but
24:44he just was a veteran backup running back. And the team went out and traded, I think a fourth round pick and a seventh round pick.
24:51And they're like three and two scrubs for whatever it's worth, which is very little, but they did trade a fourth round pick and a seventh round pick.
24:59And we saw them do this at least somewhat similarly with Joe Mixon three years ago at this point where they went
25:05out and made a notable commitment to this player.
25:08They made a much bigger commitment this time around than they did to Joe Mixon, but they go out and they make
25:14a pretty reasonable commitment to a player. I think David Montgomery still has juice in the tank.
25:19And then I said, he was really, really efficient last year, all things considered.
25:23And the alternative is Woody Marks, who was not a good running back.
25:27He's a good pass catcher, but he was just legitimately not a good running back prospect.
25:31And last year was not efficient in a bad situation.
25:34I think the team through their actions has told us exactly how they feel.
25:38But then as you point out, the beat reporters are also more or less just telling us how the team feels.
25:44I mean, it was specifically the Roto World blurb as he's adapting smoothly to his new role includes complimentary rushing, passing game
25:50usage, and to your point, kick returns. Like this is a versatile, they talk about him like the RV three.
25:56Like when you're talking about kick returns, it more sounds like he's the RV three.
26:00He will be the RV two. But I think the Delta between him and David Montgomery might look like that of an RV one versus an RV three.
26:08So David Montgomery is not a like fun click.
26:11You don't get a lot of screenshot equity posting your David Montgomery best ball teams on Twitter.
26:15But like you got to eat your vegetables. And we'll talk about this later, but like the early running backs, they're probably
26:22relative to years past as good as they've ever been.
26:25Oh, for sure. And the wide receiver two landscape is just desolate.
26:28That's the other problem. We talked about this with Davis Maddock, the death of the wide receiver two.
26:33So if you have a Puka Nakua, great. But if you have, you know, Jaden Higgins, what are you really getting from Jaden Higgins this year?
26:41What are you really getting from Dalton Schultz? I know you can tell yourself a story that this is like an eat
26:47your vegetables type of tight end and Dalton Schultz, but Dalton Schultz only makes sense if they're going to throw above expectation.
26:53Everything we're hearing is that they want to run the ball.
26:56And so more than any other year in my time in this business, I am listening to the teams talk about their identity.
27:03And I'm internalizing that because so often I want to impose what I think their identity should be based on their personnel.
27:09And then inevitably they end up just doing the thing they said they were going to do all summer.
27:14And what are the Texans saying they're going to do?
27:17Run the ball. They want to run the ball and play defense.
27:21And they feel like the biggest change, the big regret they had from last year is they let it get away from them.
27:27And they started getting too aggressive and the pass rate got too high and they lost their identity and they need to wind that back.
27:34And that's bad for Stroud. That's bad for the entire passing game.
27:38It's going to be very hard for Dalton Schultz to get there because he's not a playmaker in his own right.
27:44A guy like Dalton Schultz is productive when he's on Dallas or when he's on Houston and they go pass happy for no reason.
27:50But when they're not and he has to make it up with yards after the catch, it's not going to happen.
27:56That's not who he is. It's a situational asset.
27:59And I don't love that situation for the Houston passing game.
28:02I love it for the running game. So just like on this dynasty team, 29 year old David Montgomery has never had a 250 carry season.
28:10Never had it. In fact, recently he's had two seasons with under 200 carries and his yards per carry was as high as it's ever been last year.
28:18So he absolutely has some juice left at least a year.
28:21He's also comparable to Frank Gore. So we could be talking about David Montgomery in two years.
28:25I think he's not fun to talk about now.
28:28Imagine talking about David Montgomery in 2028. Yeah, it's not fun.
28:31But we saw Joe Mixon who, I mean, I was going to say he's like kind of near the end of his career.
28:38No, quite literally was at the final hours of his career.
28:41Still putting up monster fantasy numbers on this Houston team.
28:44And to your point, they've given us all the signals that they, I think, I don't want to say their credit.
28:50I understand the logic. They don't want to put Stroud in harm's way.
28:53They want to support him with a strong run game and a great defense.
28:57I do think teams say that a lot. And then they end up like screwing over their quarterbacks.
29:02Like we supported you with the first down carry for three yards.
29:06Teams do operate that way. And I believe the Texans want to operate that way.
29:10To your point, I drafted almost no Jaden Higgins.
29:13At least Schultz is dirt cheap. Like you can at least like, oh, whatever.
29:17He'll crack the top 15 tight ends. And he goes, it's like tight end 23.
29:21Higgins is not cheap. We are pricing like a breakout is very much on the table.
29:26And they have a super air yards and target dominator in Nico Collins, an offense that doesn't want to produce a lot of targets or air yards.
29:33So I think Higgins, I think he was a decent prospect.
29:36And I think what he did last year was like, that's what you'd expect from a guy who's kind of thrown into a big role.
29:43Not super efficient, but he runs a decent amount of routes, has a few semi spike weeks.
29:48He doesn't look like a clear year two breakout.
29:51And he doesn't look like he's an offense that wants to support a year two breakout from the second receiver, the distant second receiver.
29:58So yeah, like Schultz, it's fine because he's cheap.
30:00When you have to pay prices for these breakouts or for Schultz, just like for medium production, that's when I don't want to do it.
30:07I don't want to pay prices for a guy like Higgins with guys like, you know, Dell and Noel.
30:13One of them could pop up and, you know, you start Piggins as the wide receiver too.
30:18And they're extremely cheap. It's just the moment you make me pay a Higgins price.
30:22I don't think I've done it once this off season.
30:25I can't do it. I can't do it. And I, I probably need to make a list for Patreon, patreon.com slash podfather to support the show.
30:32We'll be putting up a list of the old receivers that are going to have a great seasons.
30:37The, the, the best old receivers to target. This is going to be, I think it's going to be a big, a
30:43big, a sort of a old wide receiver renaissance year.
30:46And, you know, players like Chris Godwin are on that list and you can check it out.
30:51Patreon.com slash podfather. I got to do a list of players that I love that I'm not drafting because I love the player and I hate the situation.
30:59And Higgins has to be top of that list.
31:02Has to be, has to be the absolute zenith of player that I love.
31:06I think he's, I think, I think you can easily argue.
31:09He has a better prospect profile. He's going to be a better player than even Nico Collins.
31:14You can make that argument, but you can't actually draft him at his current ADP.
31:18It's insane. You can't do it. It's, it's like just, uh, they're creating a straight line of the Woody Marks offense and
31:24just continuing the pass rate with the David Montgomery offense.
31:27And no, every year we have to re-examine the personnel and decide what that breakdown is going to be.
31:32And we have player profile with our projections, our rankings on the site, premium rankings.
31:37They absolutely take this into account and you're probably not going to be drafting anyone in the Houston passing game of using our projections.
31:43And, uh, you know, I'll, I stand by that.
31:46The lions passing game is on the other end of the spectrum.
31:49They're going to be throwing a lot because guess who they lost David Montgomery.
31:53So you just follow the breadcrumbs. I thought you were going to say Terry and Arnold.
31:58I was like, yeah, they, they did lose them.
32:01It's I don't want to say too soon. Like we can talk about it, but it feels a bit tangential.
32:06Sure. The defense will get worse. I'll have to pass more.
32:09It seems like it did a really bad thing.
32:12I thought that's where we were going with this.
32:14I was like, Oh, if you want to go there, go there.
32:18Well, either way we were talking about David Montgomery.
32:20So it seemed relevant to talk about the lions briefly.
32:23No, it's on me. That's on me for going the wrong direction.
32:27You could read all about it. It's right there on a, right there on roto world.
32:31Uh, and you know, his, his, uh, transgressions and jail time and all this stuff that he's not going to be playing.
32:37Okay. And that's bad. Like it, the secondary in Detroit is notorious at this point.
32:42I mean, in multiple ways, you know, now that we have Terry and Arnold, but it is a notorious secondary.
32:47They're going to give up a lot of points and they're going to have to throw to stay in games and to win games.
32:54And their personnel is slanted towards throwing, whether it's Amon Ross, a Brown underneath, whether it's Jamison Williams up over the top,
33:01it's Isaac Tesla getting a higher snap share and pushing defenses.
33:04Like you have both those guys going down the, going down the sideline and you got, you got Amon Ra and Sam Moporta crossing over the middle.
33:11It's going to be impossible. And then if those guys are all covered, they're going to just outlet to Jameer Gibbs.
33:17It's going to be a fantastic passing game to watch.
33:20You're going to want a lot of Jared Goff this year.
33:23You're going to want a lot. I mean, I'm on Ross.
33:26St. Brown is very much in play to be the wide receiver one in fantasy this year to have like 22 fantasy points a game.
33:34Who would be surprised? A little surprise. Only a little.
33:36You'd be surprised. Where do you think, where do you think those targets are going, man?
33:41To me, it's not that he can't earn targets.
33:43I think for him to unseat someone like Jamar Chase or Puka or JSN, he has to do something that he's never
33:50really done, which is either meaningfully increases ADOT or meaningfully increase his yak production over his past three years, which are like the peak of his prime.
33:57He's 35th in the NFL and yak per catch.
34:00And he's outside the top 100 receivers in ADOT.
34:03So he just can't amass these like incredible yards per target and elite games that like Jamar chase is some ungodly combination
34:09of like bowling ball of butcher knives, DJ Moore with the ball in his hands.
34:13He can run routes like he's Justin Jefferson. Like he easily blows away Amon Ross St.
34:18Brown in yak, which Amon Ross as the underneath slot, you know, he's super versatile, but he does play a lot of
34:24the slot as the underneath lower, not super low, but lower ADOT guy.
34:28You would think he should be one of the best receivers in the NFL in yards after the catch.
34:33And I think that's the difference between him putting up the 1500 yard season in 2023 and 1400 last year and chase
34:39being able to triple crown and, and Puka being able to go 1700 in less than a full season.
34:45Like the, like just that extra 5% of dynamism with the ball in your hands or able to win deep is why Amon Ross St.
34:52Brown can't crack literal number one. I do think he's capable of almost anything beyond that.
34:56And truly he could also hit number one receiver.
34:59I think he does face an uphill battle though, because he just isn't quite as dynamic as like the top three receivers in the NFL.
35:06Total facts. You have facts on your side. Congratulations for having the facts.
35:10My case for 22 fantasy points a game is based on the idea that the targets go to 180 that, and that
35:16his yak is what it was in 2023. And then maybe he scores an extra touchdown or two, just because the offense has to be so up tempo.
35:24And that's how he gets there. Right. That's, that's, that's the path to getting there.
35:28But even then, like you said, Puka can outscore him.
35:31Jamar Chase can outscore him. 22 fantasy points a game is his absolute ceiling.
35:35Everything falls into place. That's where he got it.
35:38But it's possible just because we know that the offense is going to be that good.
35:42I haven't been able to draft as much Amon Ross in dynasty as I have Jamison Williams.
35:47I don't even like Jamison Williams because of the situation.
35:50Sometimes there's reasons why, whether it's the, the inconsistency, the volatility, the injury history, the off field incidents.
35:55There's, there's a risk quotient with Jamison Williams that you don't have with Amon Ross St.
35:59Brown. And sometimes because of that, he slips an extra round in dynasty startups that I just can't allow.
36:05Just because of this offense. I want Tesla. I want Williams.
36:08I want all these guys. Now I have to return to being the Amon Ross St.
36:13Brown supporter because I haven't drafted much Jamo and I haven't drafted much Tesla.
36:17You got to start, dude. Jamo, I get like, he's really good.
36:20He's, he probably cracks the list of players who I think are awesome.
36:24And I just think are overpriced. Like, I just think I can't quite pay these prices.
36:28Tesla's not good. So you don't think Tesla's good?
36:31No, he was like a terrible college player who then was a terrible, like, look, congrats on the, on the touchdowns per, per catch stuff.
36:38Like I'm sure that's super stable buddy. He's not a high efficiency player in his first season, the NFL.
36:43And he was just not good in college. So not, not in this guy.
36:47He did play at Hillsdale. Oh, whoa. Hillsdale. Oh my God.
36:50Don't get too big on me now. I know.
36:53I know. We should, we should put this up on the screen.
36:56We should put this on the screen at Hillsdale.
36:59Tesla had 1300 yards and then he transferred to Arkansas and he maxed out at over 500 yards.
37:04And 19.5 yards per reception. So he was good.
37:07And then he transferred and he couldn't translate it into division one, which is an indictment.
37:11It's a massive indictment. Like he was getting lapped by non NFL practice squad players at Arkansas.
37:16To me, this is like, this is such a proof of concept that he's not up to the task in the SEC,
37:22let alone the NFL, that the moment he transfers from Hillsdale, he is getting dog walked by his teammates in terms of production.
37:29And we think that will then unreverse once he goes to the NFL.
37:32I think he has a skillset that can keep him on an NFL roster.
37:36Like he did awesome catches last year. And even if that's like, you know, it's unstable, he won't do as many awesome catches the coming year.
37:44It has already earned him like a second contract, even just a one-year contract.
37:48It has earned him staying power in the NFL.
37:50I don't think it's earned him fantasy points for our rosters.
37:54It's funny in, in, in these startups, I have him in a similar tier as a Ryan Flournoy.
37:59I keep getting Ryan Flournoy. There's, there's a lot of buzz for Tesla.
38:02People love Tesla. They don't want Flournoy. And I'm like, guys, this is a similar situation.
38:07And, but Flournoy actually is more refined and you can, there, I've seen more quotes from the coaches coming out around Ryan
38:13Flournoy's role increasing than I have in Detroit about Tesla.
38:16Ah, also, I believe like George Pickens is pretty steadfast and like, yep, I'm going to play out this year and hit free agency.
38:23And I think those quotes go in tandem with the idea that George Pickens might not be around in Dallas for the longterm.
38:29Whereas look, the Lions love JMO and I'm on Ross St.
38:32Brown has already signed longterm. I do think it's like a very clear year from now would be the second year, but
38:39whatever it's like third year or fourth year of football where you can have the next jump in production from Ryan Flournoy
38:45where I just don't see that path for Tesla.
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39:22Mike Evans, man. Mike Evans. One last ride. One last job for Mike Evans, right?
39:26I mean, I'm looking at that situation and they're going to have to throw the ball to be successful.
39:32They're going up against the Rams. They're going up against the Seahawks.
39:35We're talking, you know, two games on the schedule against those top teams where they're going to have to throw.
39:41And they're going to be airing the ball out against the Cardinals too.
39:44And I think Purdy's going to have a great year.
39:47And there's going to be checkdowns to Christian McCaffrey, of course.
39:50Pierre Saul is in a great situation where he's not going to get off of corners.
39:55So he's going to be able to get free runs off the line of scrimmage.
39:59No one's going to be bothering him. He's going to be able to do his thing.
40:04So I, but the presence of Mike Evans and everything we're hearing about Mike Evans from George Kittle and others telling us
40:10that he is a true professional, that he is coming in and tip top shape that this guy means businesses here.
40:16He has a lot to prove. This is another situation.
40:19No one's talking about this San Francisco passing game, but I'm like, I think Mike Evans, this could be a big year for him.
40:26Yeah. This feels a bit like getting to reroll the dice on Devante Adams last year.
40:30We're like, didn't have that much Devante Adams, his efficiency was dropping.
40:34And ultimately he went to a situation that was perfect for what skillset he had.
40:38He scored a whole ton of touchdowns and like, I got bailed out by him being hurt at the end of the year.
40:44Mike Evans probably looks to be at a similar point in his career in which, yeah, he's probably not at the peak of his power.
40:52I think like universally he would, we would agree.
40:54He's not at the peak of his powers, but he still has enough left in the tank that if he goes to
41:00one of the best schemes in the NFL, which is like exactly what my, exactly what Devante Adams did goes to one
41:07of the best schemes in the NFL. And there are tons of targets up for grabs.
41:11And we've seen this team support year in and year out elite quarterback efficiency is probably a good pick at where he goes.
41:18Like another one of these, not awfully exciting bets, but also middle of the year, like week 12, 13 last year, Devante Adams was an insanely exciting bet.
41:26And I think this maybe looks much more exciting in hindsight when Mike Evans, you know, has double digit touchdowns as they
41:32enter whatever, I don't know what five week they have, as they enter the week 14 by 14 by Chris Rodriguez just went in that draft.
41:39Let him have, I don't care. I just, I don't, I could, I, I, I could not, I could not possibly care
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43:43Just don't care. I don't care. That's me, actually.
43:45That's my sound effect. That's a human sound effect.
43:48Okay. That was really cool that you reproduced it perfectly two times in a row.
43:52You have like a particular set of skills, I'd say, to let you do that.
43:56Well, no, I recorded it. Oh, that makes sense.
43:59Okay, good. I farted into a microphone. I thought you were saying you did it live as we recorded at 44 minutes and 20 seconds.
44:06You're like, I'm going to do it once. All right, I'm going to do it again.
44:10Now watch this drive. But we have the cameras on.
44:13So you saw my butt wasn't in the microphone.
44:16Do you think I can see your... Well, you could have a second microphone down there.
44:20I don't know. You know what? You're right. I do have a splitter.
44:24And my amp does have two XLR ports. So I could have a mobile mic that I'm putting into my ass.
44:30You're right. You're right about that. But that's a human fart.
44:33And it sounded great. And I think it was perfect for Chris Rodriguez.
44:37That's just one of those backfields where I don't have a lot of exposure to that backfield other than LeQuint Allen.
44:43And just LeQuint Allen, very late in Dynasty. And he's a throw-in in Dynasty.
44:47And I have him on the taxi squad. And I'm just...
44:50I'm in on that passing game. Do you have a horse in that race between Parker Washington and Brian Thomas?
44:56I don't have a lot invested in either of those horses.
44:59Because I think if you view it through the lens of who is the best college prospect, it's very clearly Travis Hunter.
45:05If you view it through the lens of who is the most productive last year, it probably is.
45:10I mean, it just is Parker Washington. He ended the year super strong.
45:14And the question is, how much do we weight our priors?
45:17A Parker Washington, not a particularly good college prospect and doesn't do a whole lot in the NFL through his first two
45:23years, even through the first few weeks of last year, finishes legitimately awesome.
45:27How do we weigh his awesome finish versus his priors?
45:30Or BTJ, who was kind of a high-variance prospect, like not elite dominators, really only one-year production, but early to Claire.
45:36Freak athlete. And one of the best rookie seasons we've seen in a long time versus last year, abject failure.
45:41And even two years ago in his rookie season, a lot of his production came with Mac Jones.
45:47Like there are a lot of factors to weigh.
45:49The answer is like, I don't know. I would normally throw my hands up in the air and say like, I don't know.
45:56Couldn't tell you. We're not being asked to pay prices that are commensurate with, I don't know.
46:00Drafters are extremely confident that it is one of Parker Washington or Brian Thomas Jr.
46:05Frankly, at the NFL career-wide level, Jacoby Myers had the most stable year in, year out, he's okay kind of career.
46:11If he led this team in targets, it wouldn't stunt me.
46:14But we're being asked to pay prices on Travis Hunter as if he's like a complete guaranteed bust who wasn't good in college.
46:20The Travis Hunter prices, I get that it can go to zero.
46:24So you're all good. This is what you're doing.
46:26I see what you're doing. You're making this about Travis Hunter.
46:29I get it. Of course I'm making it about Travis Hunter.
46:33He's so cheap, specifically in best ball. I'm sure you'd have to like pry him with a crowbar away from the dynasty
46:39manager has him, but he is so incredibly cheap for the number two overall pick last year who like, I don't think
46:45his rookie season was particularly good, but it did seem like maybe there was a kernel of truth that he was good right at the end.
46:53And then he gets hurt. Whereas Parker Washington versus BTJ, both of them are quite expensive.
46:57Drafters are saying it's really one of these guys.
47:00There's no, not much of a race behind them.
47:02It's one of these guys to me. If I had to pick between BTJ and Parker Washington, I would take BTJ.
47:08I don't think a player who was as good as he was as a rookie is bad.
47:13He might be bad again this year. He might be bad for the rest of his career.
47:18But when you look at guys who were as good as they were as Brian Thomas Jr.
47:23as a rookie, it's largely just a collection of NFL superstars.
47:26You almost cannot be bad at football and have a 1300 yard rookie season.
47:30Whereas Parker Washington was like really good five games.
47:32And that might translate to a lot of production this year.
47:35I could totally like, I'm pricing in the fact that I can eat an L.
47:40Once I run the calculator, I'm like, wow, everyone thinks he's going to keep doing that.
47:44So I've almost universally drafted them in reverse order of price, taking the cheapest most.
47:49By the time I get up to BTJ and Parker Washington, I'm like, this is just a lot of confidence coming from drafters.
47:55I don't have that same confidence. I don't take a ton of either of them.
47:59I have to. It's BTJ. Eric 9305 asks, if you draft Tootin in a startup, can you target Chris Rodriguez later?
48:05And the answer is absolutely yes. You have tons of flexibility to be stacking your bench with whatever you want in dynasty.
48:12That's the beauty of it. Your bench spots are super precious in seasonal leagues and in best ball because those players will
48:18automatically enter your lineup in a managed dynasty league.
48:20You have the luxury of handcuffing. We talk about that in the dynasty dominator book where I mentioned that I have Christian McCaffrey because it's all flex.
48:28I don't need to handcuff anybody. I can just take best player available at all times, just max out my contingent upside,
48:34which is why I went to Sean Tucker. But in leagues where I have Christian McCaffrey, I am trying to not only
48:41draft his handcuff, which is Jordan James. I'm also trying to draft Kalen Black.
48:45Like you are incentivized to do that. If you have Tootin, you want to have Chris Rodriguez.
48:49The problem is that's not really a handcuff. That's more of like, hey, where you're, you're, you're monopolizing the fantasy point production.
48:56And in some weeks with buys, sometimes that's just the way to go.
48:59Just, we have a lot of flex spots. Some of these dynasty leagues have three, four flex spots.
49:04And we actually just based on projections, I'm going to just make sense.
49:08I'm going to start both Tootin and Rodriguez, and I'm going to monopolize all the touchdowns and make sure I get them all.
49:15And so I'm handcuffing aggressively in dynasty. Whereas in a best ball or a managed seasonal league, I avoid handcuffing altogether.
49:21I don't do it because then I'm betting against myself.
49:24There's a big trade-off and opportunity costs with every bench spot.
49:27Once you get to like round 20, round 20, there is the trade-off just isn't there anymore.
49:32You might as well handcuff if available. I just, sometimes I don't bother handcuffing.
49:35For example, Jeremiah Love with Tyler Algier, because Tyler Algier is too expensive.
49:39If I happen to have Kyron Williams, I ain't handcuffing him with Blake Corum.
49:43But I do like to get some exposure to Jarquez Hunter.
49:46Super late. If I have Chuba Hubbard, same thing.
49:49Probably can't even get Jonathan Brooks because he'll go in the same round as Jonathan.
49:53This just happened. Just happened in a startup. Whereas I drafted Chuba Hubbard, three picks later, there goes Jonathan Brooks.
49:59But you're damn right I'm going to be looking at Trevor Etienne a little bit later because why not?
50:04Why not? It's just if he gets into the starting lineup and he performs well, that dynasty asset accrues value.
50:10You can do whatever you want with it. And it's just you get the added benefit of an insurance policy without really
50:16the trade-off you have in best ball and in seasonal leagues.
50:19Yeah, I think just like you said, the overall depth of the dynasty roster means that you don't have to like unstack
50:26the Jenga tower of like the negative correlation between my running back and his backup.
50:30That really matters in best ball where like if you think that your running back is not one is absolutely lighting the
50:36league up, you do not want a dead roster spot.
50:39Like picking up weekly zeros, even from your 18th round pick is quite painful.
50:43Just picking up guys where like if you've ever had a best ball team that makes the playoffs or specifically makes that
50:49final round and you're like, uh, this veteran running back was cut.
50:53This rookie is a healthy and active and my starter got hurt.
50:56You're just like, oh, I'm just out on arrival.
50:59There's nothing I can do. Teams are playing with way more bullets than me.
51:03And there's some truth to the relationship that a starting running back in the backup running back.
51:07They can have one that is good enough that cancels the other out.
51:11You just don't have to worry about that dynamic and dynasty.
51:14So I don't know if I'm aggressively handcuffing. I also feel like, man, we've lost the top, top tier handcuff.
51:20I remember drafting Tony Pollard in the ninth round as a backup running back, because if this guy ever gets a start, he's ripping a 30 ball.
51:28And he did that like twice. We probably paid way too much for it every single year, but we just barely have that archetype.
51:34I mean, like Alexander Madison was also this guy, AJ Dylan.
51:38We had was this guy where if the starter goes down, buddy, I am winning this league.
51:42And I, like I said, I think we probably paid too much for that at the time.
51:47We don't even have that opportunity really anymore. There just aren't as many of these clear RB one goes down.
51:53RB two becomes a top 10 running back. That archetype isn't entirely dead, but there's just not as many good bets at that.
51:59It was Al's year last year, but you can't even say that now that he's, he's on the same backfield with James
52:06Connor, James Connor, sort of similar Devin Singletary. My most handcuffed running back is Cam Scadaboo because he's probably the most drafted
52:12top running back in terms of the first 10 rounds.
52:15I'm drafting more Scadaboo than anyone else this year.
52:17And therefore Tyrone Tracy, right? So I like Tyrone Tracy.
52:20Tyrone Tracy has size, all purpose, skillset, athleticism. When he gets an opportunity, if Scadaboo misses games, he's going to be productive.
52:26He is going to be the guy they turn to and Devin Singletary will then be a breather back.
52:32But so if there was a Tony Pollard in the NFL right now, it's probably Tyrone Tracy.
52:37It's just that the Giants offense is not the Dallas offense.
52:40So there it's just, it's not quite a, a one for one comparison, but if I had to think of one, especially
52:46one that I've been drafting aggressively because Devin Singletary is just so dusty, so dusty.
52:50And now with Tony Pollard as the primary back, it was that, Hey, Tajay Spears is his handcuff.
52:55You know, Tajay Spears profiles more as a satellite back.
52:58Then Tennessee goes and they draft Singleton, Nicholas Singleton.
53:01When do you think we'll see Singleton? I think it's probably later than fantasy managers want to specifically like best ball drafters.
53:07If you're in dynasty, you can probably wait, but Singleton was like not a particularly good between the tackles runner in college.
53:13He was consistently outproduced both in yards after contact in overall like running back share by Katron Allen, who himself is fine,
53:20but he isn't a player that if you are truly a good NFL running back should year in and year out for
53:26consecutive years, be seeing more carries than you. And then if you look at their final two years, he got absolutely crushed in the efficiency metrics.
53:33Nick Singleton did both compared to his previous two seasons, but also compared to Katron Allen who like, of course, Penn state
53:40implodes in both of their final seasons. Katron roughly survived that implosion in a way that Nick Singleton just did not.
53:46So I think you probably want him to work his way into the lineup as a pass catcher and he can do that.
53:52But Tajay Spears, to your point is a pretty good satellite back.
53:55He's not going to out satellite back Tajay Spears.
53:58That's my problem. There's not a ton of evidence.
54:01He's a good between the tackles back. He wasn't particularly efficient in college.
54:04Even if you look at his ability to hit home runs, he wasn't doing that at a much higher rate.
54:10It was almost identical to Katron Allen. Like that should be his calling card.
54:14He is a freak athlete. He didn't test the combine.
54:17He was like Bruce Feldman's freak list, which is like consistently a year ahead of time, picking out nine Rask guys.
54:23He's really good at actually figuring out who the athletes are.
54:26I buy that Nick Singleton is just a nine something Rask guy.
54:29He didn't really run like a nine something Rask guy in college.
54:33So I think his path in the way the Titans backfield is set up is that he eventually overtakes Tony Pollock, who's
54:39like a replacement level, maybe a little above replacement, but just a little bit above replacement level starter.
54:44Who's a free agent. Yeah. Yeah. He's like a free agent in a year.
54:48I think it's reasonable that he eventually overtakes him, but I don't think he at least didn't show me in college that
54:54he's such a gifted two down player that he's just going to usurp the starter right away.
54:59I think for the first two months of the year, he's like a classic veteran dynasty.
55:04I was inside redrop here. Like, I think you're cutting him after eight weeks and you maybe live to regret it.
55:10The week you cut him is, you know, the week before he goes off, but even in best ball, like I don't, I think he's a classic.
55:17You want to avoid zeros. And I don't think he's getting on the field of the satellite back.
55:23I didn't think he was a good, particularly good runner in college.
55:26So I don't think he's going to immediately force a bunch of carries out of the gate.
55:31I do think because both Spears, I believe, and Tony Pollard are free agents.
55:35I think he does get on the field this year.
55:38Well, that was the case. That was, that was a big, his size speed profile.
55:42If he had tested, right, his projected size speed profile, plus the contract situation, the structural advantages that he has from in
55:48terms of the contract really helps propel like a projected valuation for 2027.
55:52I know that we have some exceptions that we make some programmatic exceptions in the dynasty rankings.
55:57And we, we do give him an added boost in 2027 because it is rare that you have the two running backs
56:03ahead of you on the depth chart that are both going to be free agents.
56:07So he does benefit from that. And that is why he was a good pick in the second round.
56:13There's just, it's a bad draft and you got to, you got to shoot for the guys that have athletic upside and
56:19it found themselves in the right situation, which he did going through other potential handcuffs.
56:23Kyle Mononguy is the most obvious because he is on a, an offense that is like what the Dallas Cowboys were, the Chicago bears are.
56:30And it, it, Deandre Swift is sort of similar to Zeke Elliott.
56:34Like it's just as in terms of just their, their play style.
56:37So Mononguy is the closest thing to a modern day Tony Pollard, except that he's just not a pass catcher.
56:43The reason I thought of Tracy first is because their profiles are more similar, but in terms of situation.
56:48Yeah. I mean, I get why people want Kyle Mononguy.
56:51It's just, I can't pay that. I can't pay what he's going for whenever I, whenever he goes, whether it's best ball,
56:57whether it's dynasty, I'm always like, I get it and I'm not doing it.
57:01Yeah. He had as a rookie, he had more games with zero catches than multiple catches.
57:06I know there's something like JJ has talked about when you get to this range in the draft, taking guys who have
57:12pass catching value, both raises the floor and the ceiling, like the ambiguous backfields, a guy who can emerge as the clear
57:18pass catcher just has such a good operation of things going in his favor because it both increases the floor, increases the ceiling.
57:25And I think generally the guys who are good pass catchers, that just tells you something about them as a player.
57:31Like the fact that they're dynamic with the ball in their hands as a pass catcher almost certainly also has signal for
57:37telling you how good they are as a running back.
57:40Cause it just tells you how good they are as a player to some small degree.
57:44So I think he's like, Mononguy's fine. There's a name for this, by the way, this concept, the Kenneth Gainwell corollary.
57:50He's not a good runner. He stuck around as a pass catcher.
57:54And now he's when he, whenever he became a featured back, he produced.
57:58Yeah, I can see this. I can still see this.
58:00I mean, no one's saying LaQuint Allen is a great between the tackles runner, but they were incentivized once they saw what
58:07he could do, the electricity that he brought to the table in the passing game, they were incentivized to keep him on the field more.
58:14That's what you're saying. Yeah. I think my college comp for this would have been Jameer Gibbs who had like one of
58:20the all time efficiency seasons as a pass catcher while he was still at Georgia tech and his rushing numbers were never that special.
58:27And had I just said like, Oh, this guy's one of the best pass catching college running backs we've ever seen.
58:33He truly, it was like a three or four yards per outrun season, which is like, yeah, Christian McCaffrey's done that.
58:39Like where did Elijah Mitchell did it one year?
58:41There's like Jenty did that actually. Uh, I wouldn't have been so bearish yet.
58:45Jenty second season was electric as a pass catcher.
58:48I wouldn't have been so bearish. I'm like, well, he actually didn't hit this, uh, rushing yardage market share threshold.
58:54The receiving production. I'm going to say this on the second season told you, I don't say all you needed to know
59:00about how good Jameer Gibbs was going, told you a lot of it.
59:04Yeah. I mean, the Jameer Gibbs corollary sounds a lot better than the Kenneth Gainwell corollary.
59:08I'll tell you that right now. It also does.
59:11There's a much better ring to it. We got to talk about this Vikings passing game, man.
59:15What if Kyler's just back? What if he's back?
59:18What if he's running around? What if he's, he's got a big arm?
59:22Like it could be, it could be kind of good.
59:25I dropped a little bit of Kyler. Like it's, it's a guilty pleasure pick where I'm like, look, I know he's not good.
59:31I know he doesn't care about football. Like he's going to be playing cod by October.
59:36But to your point, like at his price, just run around a little bit.
59:40Honestly, just do like dumb Kyler stuff. Go off and like, but he's putting on a show.
59:44Like he does care. Congrats. That's like, Oh, he's got the most important.
59:48They said maybe the second most important of his contract of his life coming up in eight months from now.
59:54I'd hope he can at least feign. Like he cares.
59:57I think he's genuinely, I think he genuinely cares.
59:59I think there's a comp. I think you're selling him short.
60:02Did you record that one yourself too? I don't want to sell him short because he's short.
60:07You come into the league, you're playing baseball, you're playing football.
60:10You're the number one pick here. The number one pick there.
60:13You're the greatest athlete you've ever seen. And you take it for granted and you're entitled kind of like the U S men's team, right?
60:21Like the U S men's soccer team. They just, they were entitled.
60:24They thought, Hey, we made it this far. Everyone seems to think we're going to win the world cup that we talked to.
60:31I guess that's, what's going to happen. I guess we'll just show up and everything's going to be fine.
60:36And no, no. And anyone that's been listening to this channel knows that I'm not a Christian Pulisic fan.
60:41I've gone too far. I've had hot takes that I prefer Brendan Aronson.
60:45I think that's, that's, that's going too far. That's going too far.
60:48But there's a reason why Brendan Aronson is in the premier league and Christian Pulisic is not.
60:53There are reasons why that is because Brendan Aronson is a two-way player.
60:57Brendan Aronson presses his ass off. Brendan Aronson plays through injuries.
61:00He's tough as hell. And the team likes him.
61:03And Christian Pulisic has had one good year since Dortmund with AC Milan.
61:06And yes, I know he, he showed up in some champions league games and he's played well at times in Chelsea and
61:13played well at times here and there play well at times for the U S men's team.
61:17But we're talking about a player who sleeps on a bed of cash.
61:21And I mean, Chris, Kyler Murray is incentivized to show up, be a professional and earn a huge contract because he probably
61:27has a burn rate where he's like, I, if I'm this good, I can spend money and I know I'm going to earn a huge next contract.
61:35And it's all predetermined. It's all destiny. And now all of a sudden, wait, my destiny is, is, is blowing up around me.
61:42I need to lock in. I know that I, I guaranteed Kyler Murray looked in the mirror and said, I need to lock in this year.
61:49I'm going to show up and I'm going to be a leader.
61:52And it could be like, just with self-talk, you can change yourself.
61:56You can become a new guy. It is. I know you think it's just all show and that, you know, he's all show for the dough.
62:03I get it. And we were getting, he's going to be Cardinals Kyler Murray in 2027.
62:08And he's a trap in dynasty. I get all that.
62:11I just think there is a possibility that the switch flips and that he becomes a mature version of what we wanted from Kyler Murray five years ago.
62:19This, if that is, if that is possible, then it is Minnesota.
62:22That's going to extend him. And Minnesota is already feeling the pressure because they're perceived to have made a big mistake in
62:28letting Sam Donald slip through their fingers. And if Kyler Murray has a big year, 4,000 yards, rushing production leads the Vikings to the playoffs.
62:35They're going to be under immense pressure to extend him, especially after what happened with the Sam Donald debacle and in the JJ McCarthy bust draft pick.
62:43It sounds like what you're saying is that at least for a moment there, it was like, oh, someone actually handed Kyler
62:49the book, the secret where he's just looking in the mirror and being like, you were worthy of the number one overall pick.
62:56You are a good quarterback and you will get a lot of money.
63:00He's doing this law of, I'm a leader. He's doing this law of attraction stuff where he's like manifesting that he's good.
63:06And look, I'm down to manifest that he's good as well.
63:09Even more so for fantasy in that last year he was on pace and you know, this is a small sample.
63:15He was on pace for like 550, I think 600 rushing yards.
63:18And last year that would have led all quarterbacks in rushing.
63:22Part of that is because we just had down slash injured years from guys like Jaden Daniels, guys like Lamar Jackson.
63:27But the fact that we may be seeing rushing quarterbacks decline and he can still be one of the best rushing quarterbacks
63:34tells me like, yeah, we don't need him to live up to all the hype we had five years ago for him as a passer.
63:41We just need him to like play 17 games, play competent football and run specifically as much as he did last year,
63:47which I don't think there's a reason not to.
63:50He needs to continue to do that because that's part of the Kyler Murray appeal.
63:54And there's no way, there's no way that Christian Pulisic ever going to do that.
63:58It's never going to happen. I'm just telling you right now that he's never, there's never going to be a man in the mirror moment for Pulisic.
64:06It's over. He'll never be good. He's never going to contribute to the men's team.
64:10It's not going to happen. This was it for him to have like 10 turnovers in a half and then fake an
64:16injury where he kicked the other guy's leg. It's over.
64:19I don't think you come back from this and he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to matter what his burn rate is.
64:26He's made so much money. Every other commercial is Pulisic.
64:29I didn't see any Balogun commercials. I didn't see any Tillman commercials.
64:32I just saw one Pulisic commercial after another. And I think at some point that weight was also too difficult where he's like, I don't believe in myself.
64:40I'm taking myself out of this. And so I think Christian Pulisic has like this fragile ego that he's, but he can't
64:46say no to all the sponsorship money. And then it puts him in a very sort of a negative headspace with the pressure.
64:53And then you start making mistakes and then you spiral.
64:56It's a spiraling headspace. Kyler Murray, on the other hand, I think Kyler Murray's ego is intact.
65:00My guess is down deep, he has never questioned himself.
65:03But I think- No, I think you want him to question himself.
65:07At this point, after seeing him take himself out and fake an injury on the biggest stage, he is completely shattered.
65:13And we need to emotionally, collectively as a country, move on from this guy.
65:17Look, that is quite literally how I think everyone has felt about Kyler Murray in that Pulisic isn't like an objectively bad player.
65:23Like he can play good soccer. It's that he never hit the trajectory he should have going back to his Dortmund days.
65:29And you know who is objectively like fine at football as an NFL quarterback, but just never hit the number one overall pick superstar college quarterback hype?
65:37Kyler Murray. And eventually he was broken down to the point where like one, he like speaking of like the ego stuff,
65:43they had to put in a clause to force him to study in his massive contract.
65:48I think eventually he was broken down to the point that like the team cuts him.
65:53It does seem like he's pretty invested. Like I've been talking a lot of, a lot of not nice things about Kyler Murray.
65:59He does seem pretty invested. These teams genuinely invested.
66:02I never thought Christian Pulisic was very invested in this team.
66:05Personally. I never, I never got that feeling. I always thought of this as Ream's team and McKinney's team.
66:10I never thought about, I thought about this more as Baligan's team than I did Pulisic.
66:15It's like, he's just been an afterthought and I hope he's, he's, he's, he steps up.
66:19The Vikings are Kyler Murray's team, but I love the parallel where yes, Kyler Murray at Oklahoma was like Pulisic at Dortmund.
66:26And I think we're setting ourselves up for the buy low in the 2030 world cup where Pujic is at that point.
66:32He's just a veteran. And hopefully he's sort of learned some of these leadership qualities that Kyler Murray hopefully has seemed to learn as well.
66:39And we are setting ourselves up for the Pulisic buy low in 2030, where he's not the superstar.
66:44Kyler Murray doesn't enter the Vikings as the superstar.
66:47That's going to change the team. It's not like Peyton Manning switching teams to the Broncos.
66:51He's like, we need you to just go out and execute a scheme by Kevin O'Connell.
66:56And hopefully Pulisic doesn't come in as the rising star in 2030.
66:59It's that he has been seasoned through at that point.
67:02It'll be coming up on like a decade and a half, two decades of soccer.
67:06And he can be the sort of veteran leadership part of the room where he's just a starter, but he's learned a
67:12lot of lessons that can maybe be helpful to the younger guys.
67:16I hope we get there with Pulisic. I don't know if we do, but we did get there with Kyler.
67:22I think no one thinks that you can get there with a guy like Kyler.
67:26I think, uh, I think we can get there with Kyler and Pulisic.
67:30We really nailed it here by somehow incorporating soccer into a fantasy football conversation.
67:34That's coherent. I think it makes sense. I think because these are essentially number one picks that are undersized, fragile, that have
67:40these massive egos that have been humbled. Like it is the whole thing.
67:43It's just, and then we'll, and I can see, yes, in, in 2030, I like him coming off the bench.
67:49I like Pulisic coming off the bench for 20 minutes as a spark.
67:53I like this. This, this could work. This, that, that's what you need.
67:57That's what you need. Murray, he's, you know, he's already a little bit older than Pulisic and he can't run at the
68:03same rate, but I mean, I think he can for another couple of years and you know, he's not a guy that you bring it off the bench.
68:11He's just going to be a guy that can earn a new contract, but I think he'll be mobile enough to tactically
68:17scramble his way into first downs and make plays.
68:20And the escapability is going to be there for Murray longer than a guy like Pulisic can play like, you know, a
68:26full-time game, a full-time match at the forward position.
68:28It's just, it's not going to happen. Once he's in his late twenties, it's not, it's going to be over.
68:34Murray, I can see him playing into his early thirties at a similar level, but eventually once you get to 33, 34,
68:40his utility is going to drop dramatically. But we're talking about a three-year window, man.
68:45We got a three-year window with Murray for fantasy that we don't have with Pulisic.
68:49And so I, I, I'm, uh, I'm still very much in on Murray and I think you are too.
68:54I think this is what's happening. I think if anything, there's been a collective coming to Jesus on Pulisic being overrated and
69:01I'm glad everyone's finally with me on this. And now I think you're coming to Jesus on Kyler Murray being an incredible value in fantasy football this year.
69:09This Cardinals running game, we touched on it. What do you think's going to happen?
69:13Like first three, four weeks, isn't Tyler Algier going to lead this team in carries?
69:17No, I don't think it'll lead the team in carries.
69:20If I, if I could take an even money bet on love versus Algier carries first four weeks, I would still take love.
69:26I think maybe where you could get me is a red zone or goal line carries where specifically last year, three years
69:33into Bajon Robinson's career, he drew Bajon Robinson almost perfectly to a standstill.
69:36I think it was seven, seven carries at the goal line for the entire season.
69:41And it was like 30 or 31. I think Bajon had a one goal or one red zone carry edge.
69:46And that perfectly matches what you expect Tyler Algier to do.
69:49Like Tyler, we need five yards on this play.
69:52Three yards it is then champ. But Tyler, we are one yard from scoring a touchdown.
69:57He can do that. And I do think that that would make sense for him to be playing that role.
70:02I do think like Bajon is the outlier amongst you spend this much on your running back.
70:07You would hope you get more returns in the first two years relative to your other running backs.
70:12You would expect to load him up more. I think Gentry is more of the art, like of more of the, what you would expect.
70:19You spend a, you're, you're a bad team. You're objectively, you're the Raiders or you're the Cardinals and you have nothing going for your basement dweller franchise.
70:27And you spend a top five pick on, even as we're getting a bit of a running back resurgence, still a very
70:33low value position amongst all the positions you could draft from.
70:36You're doing this to establish the identity that like this guy is the face of our franchise and the face of our offense.
70:43And more often than not, when you do those kinds of things, you give him the majority of the carries, even in the first four weeks.
70:50I think in the minutia of like, do you play on pass pro or do you get the third and one carries?
70:57That's where Algier could lose out or that's where Algier could eat in.
71:00I do think for the Cardinals, like, oh no, all of our, all of our goal line carries are going to the backup running back.
71:07Guess what? Not a lot of those to go around.
71:10So maybe it doesn't end up making that much of a difference.
71:14I do think that's where he could be a problem.
71:17His ADP in startups is just weird. It's just, it's not factoring in properly.
71:20I think it's just one of those self-fulfilling ADPs where it was high before the Jeremiah Love draft pick and it has not yet corrected on sleeper.
71:28And it's just like, no way am I taking this guy?
71:31It's like many, many rounds ahead of where he should go.
71:34Oh, speaking of. We are on the clock in the Scott Fishbowl on the clock in the Scott Fishbowl.
71:40And essentially the Scott Fishbowl this year has these huge premium bonuses for long, big plays.
71:44Have you seen this? Especially for his team? No, I'm on the clock in two picks and I will figure out the
71:51rules to Scott Fishbowl in one pick. I, I made a mistake.
71:54I went Caleb Williams, not fully understanding the rules, but thankfully I did go.
71:58I'm on Ross St. Brown. I mean, receivers are hugely incentivized in this league.
72:02I mean, we're talking about like a 10 point bonus for like, I think even a, even a catch more than 20 yards.
72:09So it's like, it's a giant bonus. If you just look at the projections, if we sort by projections here, just the
72:15projected points, you'll see that it is, uh, almost all our, uh, receivers or running backs.
72:19Uh, I, let me just pull this up real quick.
72:22Um, I'm, I'm having a hard time with the scoring.
72:25I really, I, I don't quite understand. Oh, who did, where to go.
72:29I was thinking wide receiver could be, could be the move here with, uh, because we have pickings available.
72:34We have a lava. We have Garrett Wilson. I already have one quarterback.
72:38I don't know, but you haven't, you haven't, uh, you haven't even picked yet.
72:42No, we, I, we had some snafu where people hadn't signed up for, they hadn't like matched their sleeper account with some other Scott Fishbowl account.
72:49Um, so I'm, I actually picked the exact same spot as you, uh, and I have yet to see my first pick.
72:55All right. So we, we need to make a pick here and I'm trying to pull up the scoring and, uh, give me, give me a second.
73:03I'm pulling up the scoring on my phone just to help you understand.
73:07There is a 40 plus yard rush bonus of 10 points.
73:10However, in the receiving 20 to 29 rush yard bonus, 10 points, 30 to 39 rush yard bonus, 10 points, 40 plus
73:16rush yard, uh, receiving bonus reception bonus, 10 points.
73:19So 20 to 29, 30 to 39 and 40 plus yard reception bonus, 10 points.
73:23So, I mean, I, to me, it makes, it makes sense just to go wide receiver.
73:28I can't believe all these wide receivers are available.
73:30I feel like I'm missing something. I just, I'm not, I, I, I, when I, when I sort by projections on my
73:36phone, all the receivers are near the top and I just, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm sort of mystified why these guys
73:43are all available given all the bonuses. There's also a tight end bonus.
73:46So Harold Fannin's projection is absolutely gigantic. I think Fannin is in a, he's in a tricky situation because we're not sure
73:53how good Casey Concepcion is going to be. We're not sure what Jerry Judy has left.
73:57We're not sure what this offense, we're not sure what the quarterbacks are going to be.
74:02There's going to be multiple quarterbacks throughout the season.
74:04How much did the presence of David and Joku affect his production last year?
74:08Couldn't have affected it much because he was so good.
74:11So Fannin has more uncertainty. There's a little more upside, but I think that the projection is so close between Pickens, Olave,
74:17Wilson, and Fannin that I think it's safer just to go with the receivers.
74:21So I'm thinking about just of these three receivers, who do you prefer?
74:25Pickens, Olave, Wilson. To me, it'd be Pickens. Wilson's the only one who I would not consider here, especially for the like long play bonus.
74:32I think Garrett Wilson's good among the many like ways I would describe him like awfully dynamic or explosive really wouldn't be at the top of the list.
74:40Like he's never been a good yak producer. He's not frankly good in yards per out run.
74:45And he's played in some terrible teams, but I think he's like the peak possession receiver with maybe a little more juice than that.
74:52But I think you have almost the opposite archetype for Pickens and maybe somewhere in the middle with Olave.
74:57I'd go with Pickens here. Olave, I'd be perfectly fine with that one.
75:01I mean, if you're incentivized to go big plays, wouldn't it be Pickens and Olave?
75:05You can see that's how I have them sorted now.
75:08I think I'm just going to double tap these two and see what happens.
75:12Boom and boom. That's a wrap. I'm not going to be drafting for a long time now.
75:17Oh, it's going to be forever. I'll let everybody know what happens with this draft.
75:21The Scott Fishbowl draft. It's huge big play bonus for receivers.
75:24That's the bottom line. Anything more than 20 yards for any catch more than 20 yards, you get a 10 point bonus,
75:31which is it's absolutely score tilting to have to have that for receivers.
75:34I mean, it's it's incredible. I mean, there's certainly some some running backs that can do that, but it's much rarer for
75:40running back to have a big 40 yard catch.
75:43It's a guy like Pickens and a guy like Olave.
75:46They're going to be specialists in that area. So I'm happy to leverage the scoring and hopefully hopefully that we put together a good team.
75:53Let's go rapid fire here. Rapid fire mode. We're good.
75:56We have a bunch more sort of team passing games or team running games to talk about.
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77:29B21. B21. Cowboys running game. Javante Williams seems boring.
77:31Who's the RB2 there? By snaps Malik Davis. By who has any chance for us to care about him in fantasy?
77:37Jaden Blue. Phil Maffa? First snap at training camp.
77:40That guy's. He's probably a better bet to, again, have the out snaps Jaden Blue advantage.
77:44But he's like a total two-down plotter who's not even good at that.
77:48And I don't know that he gets ahead of Malik Davis.
77:51So I think Jaden Blue could have some nominal standalone value.
77:54I don't draft a ton of Blue. Because I also think he's probably, among these three, he's clearly the best bet to
78:01be out of the league in a year. He's, again, the like zero avoidance.
78:05The knucklehead factor on him is off the charts.
78:07I mean, all these Texas guys. I mean, Texas was like a magnet for top knucklehead recruits.
78:12Easily. Yeah. They are the chiefs of college football.
78:15They're like, I mean, there are a few college football teams that could use some better screeners for these types of things.
78:21But yeah, I think Blue, he's legitimately the only one who could carve out a standalone role.
78:26There's no reason for Javante to just play behind Phil Maffa or Malik Davis.
78:30Javante's not a good pass catcher. He's a serviceable pass pro and like catch dump offs.
78:34If Blue's good at anything, he might not be good at anything.
78:38If Blue's good at anything, it would be being a third down specialist.
78:41Maybe he can carve out a role as that.
78:44I just don't see what Phil Maffa could do to earn touches barring a Javante injury.
78:48Jaden Blue, best comparable to Naheem Hines on player profiler.
78:51Has there been an example of a guy who's a knucklehead and then started to figure out that he had to work hard and learn the playbook?
78:59Is there a running back example that we can use to comp Jaden Blue too?
79:03I didn't have running back, but as soon as you said that, because I think he's on the show sheet somewhere.
79:09Aidy Mitchell. Have you heard how the team, the Jets, are talking about Aidy Mitchell these days?
79:14I think it was Glenn, maybe it was the OC, I forget which one, was saying like, he just lights up a room.
79:21He's a guy who you want to be around him.
79:23And they were all talking about his work ethic and how much he's changed.
79:27That's crazy because all you heard was the opposite when he was in Indianapolis.
79:31He figured it out, man. Like some guys do just figure it out.
79:35Not as many as we'd like. I think when you have these character red flags, they're largely a part of who you
79:41are, but not everyone that's the case for. And the way the Jets talk about Aidy Mitchell, he has figured it out.
79:48He was the very first player who I thought of.
79:50We were talking about Texas. We'll have Aidy Mitchell in the show.
79:54It's if a guy figures it out. I think it looks like things look like for Aidy Mitchell.
79:59I don't know if Jaden Blue is figuring it out.
80:02I mean, how many Texas guys can all figure it out at the same time?
80:06Right? I don't know. I don't know. The bottom line is Javante Williams could lead the league in touchdowns.
80:12The guy is boring, but he scores a lot.
80:14And that's the thing, man. Once these elite wide receiver ones are off the board, you might as well just go running back.
80:21You might as well go with an all-purpose back who's undervalued like Cam Scadaboo, you know, because he only has the partial season coming off an injury.
80:28That's where the value comes from. Or a guy like Javante Williams, who are just like, he seems boring.
80:34There were seasons where he didn't produce. He's not this super dynamic player, but he's in the right place, the right time to score 15 touchdowns.
80:41And you just need to draft that guy. That's my position on that.
80:45I don't feel that way about, say, the Steelers passing game.
80:48I don't care what happens with that Steelers passing game.
80:51I don't want anyone on that Steelers passing game ever at all.
80:54The more I think about what's going on, and then every news item that comes out, the latest one on Roto World is Broderick Jones.
81:01Return unknown. So now, okay, their left tackle could open the season on injured reserve.
81:06Probably will because of a neck injury. This goes from bad to worse.
81:09Aaron Rodgers, Broderick Jones, every ancillary force that could either be propelling or suppressing these receivers in Pittsburgh.
81:14It's just all working against them. I'll say the McCarthy signing, as bad as it is organizationally, it's a very dumb waste of our time.
81:22If you care about football or the Steelers to go out and get Mike McCarthy when it's like clearly just a reunion
81:28that he's from Pittsburgh and a reunion with Rodgers.
81:30We're wasting everyone's time here. But man, McCarthy loves to throw the football.
81:34When you look at his offenses, whether or not they've been universally good, they generally are very good, but they are consistently
81:40some of the highest pass rate over expected, highest early down pass rate teams.
81:44Aaron Rodgers has very little left in the tank, but I think McCarthy is showing up to be like, we're going to
81:51do what you did last year where you checked down a million times.
81:54Or, well, you checked down proportionally a million times, but now we're just going to do it every play.
82:00No more of this running stuff. It's just check downs as far as the eye can see.
82:04And I think if you get the right prices on these, they can be interesting.
82:09Where Rodgers is like the cheapest quarterback who probably starts 17 games.
82:12Jeremy Bernard is a day two rookie with a clear path to at least three receiver sets.
82:17And he's again, dirt cheap. I think both the tight ends are like competent starting caliber players who should both see playing time.
82:24And you can get them with your last pick.
82:26I don't want to pay any meaningful price for a Steelers passing game piece.
82:30You do that with Metcalf and Pittman. And I don't draft those guys, but I could dabble in some Jeremy.
82:36I could dabble in Darnell Washington, who's just awesome among players that are like fun to draft.
82:41I mean, the guy is like seven feet tall, 280 pounds, athletic as hell, just a fun dominant force of a player.
82:47But I think the bottom line is, and this was also on Roto World, that the wide tight end in Pittsburgh is still Pat Friermuth.
82:54And Washington is going to be assigned blocking duties more often than not.
82:58And if we had to draft a receiver, not a wide receiver, just a guy that catches passes.
83:03It's not even, you might say, oh, you're going to say Jalen Warren.
83:06No, I think in tight end premium, Pat Friermuth is the answer.
83:10I think that is the answer. I think that is the answer to this.
83:14This is a conundrum. I think we've solved it.
83:16Tight end premium, Pat Friermuth, final answer. Yeah, I'm fine with this.
83:20This is good. Good enough. Good. That's all we're going to do.
83:23Bucs passing game, though. Bucs passing game is exciting.
83:26There's, hey, I've heard this cliche, there's too many miles to feed there.
83:30There are a lot of miles from Jalen McMillan to my man Ted Hurst.
83:33I'm more focused on Egbuka and Godwin. Godwin goes later, but Godwin will probably out-target Egbuka.
83:38To me, this is a Chris Godwin rebirth season.
83:41This is just another, it's just like a theme.
83:43Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, older receivers. They're going to show up this year.
83:47Watch it happen. I'm a little nervous about Chris Godwin.
83:5030-year-old receiver coming off of like career worst year by a country mile, playing on an offense in which like, I want to think Baker is good.
83:57Strangely, anytime he doesn't have one of the best OCs in the NFL, he's not good.
84:02Just write that off, though. Don't worry about that.
84:04Like Liam Cohen, awesome play caller. I think Dave Canales has like single-handedly saved Bryce Young's career.
84:09I don't think Bryce Young is even remotely a starting caliber quarterback.
84:13Dave Canales has just like, has contorted this offense to allow it to survive.
84:17They're not a good offense, but they can literally make the playoffs on the back of like an okay defense and an
84:23offense that knows exactly what it needs to do to get a division or get a wild card round loss.
84:29I think both those guys are really good play callers.
84:32Last year, the moment they don't have a really good play caller, Baker collapses.
84:35Early in his career, not a lot of good play callers in Baker's career.
84:39Not a lot of good seasons. And now I think they're going to another, probably not that good of a play caller in Zach Robinson.
84:47Like just total retread. Don't know how he's getting OC jobs.
84:50So I don't have a ton of confidence in the structure of the offense.
84:54And Chris Godwin's old hasn't stayed healthy and was the worst version of himself by a country mile last year.
84:59And the team has invested a lot in wide receiver.
85:02They also lose Mike Evans, but it invested a lot in Ibuka, McMillan, and Ted Hurst.
85:07I can see how Chris Godwin could be back because he's been really good throughout his career.
85:12But I think there are a lot of pitfalls in the way of him being back.
85:16There's a case to be made that you shouldn't be drafting Ibuka because of this.
85:20I haven't drafted a lot of him. He's a player I want to draft a lot, but fantasy managers have generally just
85:27anointed him as the next high-end wide receiver too.
85:29He's not quite there yet. I think he's good.
85:32I think he'd pay a lot just for a good job.
85:35This is the list that we need to create.
85:38We're creating a list, if anyone knows this, talked about it like an hour ago in the show.
85:43We're creating a list of receivers that we love that we can't draft.
85:46And I think Ibuka has got to be on that list right there with Jaden Higgins.
85:51Yep, that's it. That's another one. We're going to find some more as the show goes along.
85:56The show keeps going and going and going. We get another 15 minutes to go here.
86:00We'll go rapid fire. This is real rapid fire.
86:03I kept saying rapid fire. We're going to rapid fire.
86:06We're really, this time, I mean it. We're going to rapid fire.
86:09This is, this is, you're going to, everyone's going to feel what rapid fire is right now.
86:14Here we go. Falcons QBs. Is Tua the next Darnold?
86:17Hell no. Easy question. Next. Hit it out of the park.
86:20You're drafting a lot of Michael Penix then. A little bit.
86:23The problem is neither of them are going to play 17 games, so it makes it a hard bet.
86:28But if I had to pick one to score more fantasy points and play more games, Penix.
86:33All the way. Give me Penix. I almost, I tried to draft Penix in the startup where I was trying to draft like seven bad quarterbacks.
86:41Nice. And I got, I got sniped on Penix.
86:43It happens. It happens. Ended up with, ended up with the Shadur Sanders, which not a great consolation prize.
86:49Much prefer Michael Penix in that situation. Bengals passing game.
86:51Super stable. Everyone's back. Like no vacated targets at all.
86:54Mike Gusecki though. Mike Gusecki. Mike Gusecki truthers unite.
86:57Who says no? You guys have fun with that.
86:59Boom. Knocked out of the park. There you go.
87:02So no Mike Gusecki. I don't want to say zero, but like we saw him get snaps last year.
87:07He had like four games over 50% of the snaps.
87:10Not many because he's Mike Gusecki and he did less than 20 yards in every single one of those games.
87:16We didn't see 2024 contingent value, super single game upside Mike Gusecki almost at all last year.
87:21He had one spike week and it was not in a chase or Higgins list game.
87:25Like you were not starving him that week. So like he's fine.
87:29He is going to run routes, but he's, he didn't do almost anything last year and he's not good.
87:34So he isn't good at football is the problem.
87:37He's better at basketball. That's why he's best comparable to Jordan Cameron on player profile.com Patriots passing game.
87:42Who's the wide receiver to Dobbs. He's making more money than some small countries.
87:46It's not, it's not wrong. Who's the best talent though.
87:49They have after AJ Brown, who's the best player.
87:51Who's the best for us. Who's the best actual receiver in the NFL.
87:55Is it Keishon Boote booty? Look, I could be convinced of this.
87:58I don't think the Pats care. We know they don't care because last year I was kind of impressed with his first month of the season.
88:06He gets a little dinged up, but he does come back and they're like, it's Mac Holland's time.
88:11They never let booty pick up that role once again.
88:14Then they go out and double down on addressing receiver.
88:17And even the off season booty didn't show up some voluntary off season stuff.
88:20The team talk or the team, the reporters talked about maybe he could be a trade candidate.
88:25The team has fallen out of love with booty in a way that I think is like, you just can't draft this guy.
88:32As much as I could be talked into the argument that he's the second best talent receiver.
88:37I don't know how much it'll matter here. Hold on to Kyle Williams and dynasty.
88:41You got to have a deep roster. God damn it.
88:44God damn it. There was a, there was a raging internal debate here that spilled over into the podcast at player profiler last year.
88:51I was trying to temper expectations around Kyle Williams.
88:53And I said, I'd prefer the contingent value of come on.
88:56If it all. And I have since been redeemed.
88:59That was a hot take last year. You know that?
89:02Yeah. Look, we, we, we made some, we made some mistakes with Kyle Williams.
89:06I'm not going to lie. I had someone who draft look, I like to have a little fun guys.
89:11I had some fun last year drafting Kyle. I had some fun with Kimani, but all by the way that come on, but also fun player.
89:19It was like I said, film off, you know?
89:21Yeah. That's not fun. That is not fun. No one's talking about DJ more in Buffalo.
89:26Have you noticed this? And yet he's the clear wide receiver one and could be in for a big year.
89:31That's another, you have fun with that. Like last year, I, I get that Kayla Williams is not like particularly down to down accurate.
89:38And I think that was bad for DJ more, but was DJ more getting open?
89:42No, didn't look like he was getting open. Was he producing yak?
89:46No, he wasn't producing yak. Was he earning targets?
89:48No, it was one of his worst target earning the seasons of his career.
89:52So even the ways we can attempt to control for Kayla Williams, who I think is good in some ways on a down to down level.
90:00He just misses a lot of throws. The ways that we can attempt to control for that all still point to DJ
90:06more being one, like past the age apex and two bad.
90:09So I, I haven't drafted much DJ more to me.
90:12This is goes one of two ways. He's either revived.
90:15Like he's Stefan digs going to the bills or, and I think he's being priced like that is the most likely outcome.
90:21We saw this with Amari Cooper. We're like, Oh, we need to get some veteran receiver help in this room.
90:27Bills let's draft or let's trade for Amari Cooper, who was clearly washed and DJ more, all the numbers we have on him.
90:33We're like, Hmm, it looks pretty washed. And he does play like Amari Cooper too.
90:38Yeah. He, he could just be Amari bills. Amari.
90:40I hate that. I'd love that you said that because it's, it's apropos.
90:44Yeah. Cause he goes from 1300 yards on 136 targets to 966 yards on 140 targets.
90:48He does have like interesting sort of career where he had some big air yard seasons.
90:53Then he has some yaks at 29. The guy's dust after putting up one, two, three, almost four, 1500 air yard seasons in a row.
91:00Now he's dust. I'm hearing he's dust at 29.
91:03I just don't believe he's dust. So we're going to disagree.
91:06I don't believe he's dust. I think he's going to deliver value.
91:09This is an offense. I want exposure to this is a player I believe in.
91:13And unless there are a significant number of lower body injuries, hamstring injuries, all these things, which Amari Cooper certainly had.
91:19And Amari Cooper famously did not put it any effort into strength and conditioning.
91:23If you stack all those things up on Amari Cooper, you could see an early, an early exit of the league.
91:29DJ more, I feel like has another year left.
91:32We have no evidence of DJ more, not putting an effort, which he specifically did that the bears hated him for was the lack of effort.
91:39I watched this man with my own eyes walk off the field in the middle of a play.
91:44I don't think I've ever seen that before. So like, I think there is also, look, maybe he refines his effort in
91:51a way that Amari Cooper never did, but he also showed that red flag that Cooper maybe did too.
91:56God, I hate that. I think you're getting me on this.
91:59I think, I think I convinced you on a couple of these players.
92:03I think I had, I think, I think you've seen the light a little bit on guys like Chris Godwin.
92:09I may have seen the light on DJ more, but stay tuned, everybody.
92:12Just stay tuned. I'm not there yet, but I'm officially worried about DJ more in a way I was not before the show commander's passing game.
92:20They don't sign digs. What happens? I think it's ugly.
92:23I don't think there's a clear wide receiver to winter.
92:25Antonio Williams was like a slot only, not high yarded share player who also was not a particularly good yak player in college.
92:32Just don't get what the upside with him is.
92:34If you want the like underneath compliment to Terry McLaurin, I think that guy is chick.
92:39It's again, like the, not the funnest click, but chick has been one of the best yak tight ends in the NFL since he entered the NFL.
92:47And that is exactly what the team needs. It's what the team needed with Debo Samuel last year.
92:52The team just fell apart. So I think Chig would be the answer if they don't sign digs, which doesn't seem like it's happening.
92:59Get Chig. I love that. Yes. Get Chig in the commander's passing game.
93:02That's the just similar to the, it's like Friar Muth with upside and more excitement and more juice.
93:07Yeah. There are some of these passing games where the answer is the tight end.
93:12That's true. Brown's running game. Judkins a value. Yeah, I think so.
93:15I think the way they've talked about him and the stuff we've seen him in the off season, I'm still a little
93:21concerned that he doesn't look like Quinshawn Judkins when he comes back, but he does so far from everything we can tell
93:28seem to have recovered as flawlessly as you can from a really catastrophic injury.
93:32He was a really good prospect who earned a ton of work as a rookie.
93:36I'm, you know, tepidly I am in. Okay, good.
93:38My favorite backdoor stack. I have a favorite double backdoor stack, which is hard to do.
93:43Double stack. Geno Smith, Adonai Mitchell, Kenyon Sadiq. You approve of that.
93:46As we've talked about earlier, I guarantee you love that, right?
93:50I did talk about AD Mitchell. I will make one note.
93:53But if I could take your stack and do one little tweak, I'm drafting a lot of Omar Cooper.
93:58I think, look, I didn't even think Omar Cooper was a good receiver prospect.
94:02Like, I didn't think he should have gone in the first round.
94:06Like, largely this guy just goes out and beats up on FCS schools and calls it a day.
94:11That being said, I think much smarter men than me have been fooled time and time again by the idea that they
94:17can very soundly beat draft position from NFL draft capital.
94:20He's one of the cheapest first round rookies we're getting.
94:23And we've seen this hit before. Like, the worst example of this where it works is like a Jahan Dotson, who is
94:29objectively not a good football player, who also got on the field and made some splash plays as a rookie and was
94:35an extremely high advance rate and had a good finish to the season where you really wanted to have him in all formats, best ball in particular, though.
94:43But also, like, I was like, ah, Justin Jefferson, why wouldn't I just take the better player in Jalen Rieger all those years ago?
94:50Like, we don't know as much as we think we do in terms of Omar Cooper is going as one of the
94:56cheapest first round rookies we ever get. I mean, Garrett Wilson was this guy in his rookie season.
95:01Let's just do the triple stack. We'll do it.
95:04We'll do the backdoor triple stack. We'll add Cooper to it.
95:07We'll make it happen. After we saw Fannin last year, after we saw Gadsden, my thinking is, man, I think about the rookie year that Bowers had.
95:15Sadiq could be quite good. Even though he started slow because he missed camp, he's going to be back.
95:20He's rehabbed. He's ready to go. He's all systems go for mandatory training camp and preseason.
95:25I'm in on this offense. This is going to be a throw first offense.
95:29They even have like a pumped up satellite back as they're starting running back that they just extended in Brees Hall.
95:35So this is all whether it be Brees Hall, Sadiq, Cooper, bringing in Addy Mitchell, Garrett Wilson, all this.
95:40This there's a clear signal being sent that this is going to be a DGAF gunslinger type offense in New York.
95:46Yeah, this is a good this is a good bet to be this year's Cardinals.
95:50We're like objectively awful football team. Don't watch any of their games.
95:54You can check their box scores at the end.
95:56Those are very nice. Get you out of here.
95:59Give us a bold prediction, my friend. I didn't get to do the full sales pitch on Brees Hall Tootin.
96:04Now I get to Brees Hall Tootin, top five fantasy running back.
96:08Imagine if Travis H. was actually good. Brees Hall Tootin, top five fantasy running back.
96:12Imagine if Travis H. was actually good. I looked into the camera.
96:15I guess I looked into the screen, the camera capturing me.
96:19I was like, I look very angry. Like, what is wrong with me?
96:22And I was like, oh, yeah, we were just talking about the men's team.
96:26You're like, we'll work it into the show. And I'm like, I'm still just annoyed.
96:31Like, I just realized that looking at my own face, seeing myself on camera, I was like, oh, that really, I don't want to say ruin.
96:38I'll be fine. 30 seconds. I'm a Tootin Slappy to my core.
96:41I think he's very good. You are? You're a Tootin Slappy?
96:45I thought you were going to say Tyrion Arnold.
96:47I was like, yeah, they did lose him. It's, I don't want to say too soon.
96:52Like, we can talk about it. But congrats on the, on the touchdowns per, per catch stuff.
96:56Like, I'm sure that's super stable, buddy. Well, no, I recorded it.
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