The FF Dynasty - 10 Moves To Make ASAP!
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1 hr 17 min
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Aug 30, 2026
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Sun, August 30, 2026
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Jayden HigginsKyle WilliamsAmari CooperCaleb DouglasCam WardCeeDee LambCyrus AllenDavid MontgomeryDe'Zhaun StriblingDrake LondonJonathon BrooksKayshon BoutteKeaton MitchellKenneth Gainwell
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Amari Cooper
NegativeRole28:36
Amari Cooper is viewed with skepticism regarding his path to fantasy relevance, especially with Adonai Mitchell potentially commanding targets. The consensus is to prefer Jaden Higgins over Cooper in dynasty formats.
Insight pageCaleb Douglas
PositiveSleeper26:59
Caleb Douglas is considered a good player and a potential 'found money' asset in dynasty, though he is hampered by being on a team projected to have a bottom-two passing offense.
Insight pageCam Ward
NegativeProjection3:33
Cam Ward is facing a make-or-break season for his dynasty value, with concerns regarding his lack of rushing upside (159 yards, 3.7% scramble rate last year) and the Titans' offensive environment. He is currently drafted in the 5th or 6th round of startups, but without a significant uptick in rushing or elite pocket-passing efficiency, he lacks the ceiling to break into the top tier of dynasty quarterbacks.
Insight pageCeeDee Lamb
NegativeValue51:17
The speakers discuss trading away CeeDee Lamb for Ted O'Neill McMillan plus additional assets. The consensus is that a 'smash accept' would involve receiving a first-round pick in addition to McMillan, or at minimum, a significant pick swap (e.g., swapping a second for a first) to move off Lamb.
Insight pageCyrus Allen
PositiveBreakout21:52
Cyrus Allen is highlighted as a high-upside player who has been performing exceptionally well in training camp, earning the nickname 'training camp Jerry Rice.' He is a recommended target for rebuilding teams.
Insight pageDavid Montgomery
NegativeRole31:50
David Montgomery is expected to remain the primary power back and goal-line option for the team, though there is slight concern that Woody Marks could eat into his workload if Marks continues to impress.
Insight pageDe'Zhaun Stribling
NegativeValue56:40
Deshaun Stripling has seen his value skyrocket to a first-round rookie pick valuation. While the speakers are willing to hold him for depth, they agree that cashing out for a 2027 or 2028 first-round pick is a sound process-based move, especially for those who drafted him in the third or fourth round.
Insight pageDrake London
PositiveValue50:20
Drake London remains a preferred dynasty asset over Ted O'Neill McMillan, though the gap has narrowed significantly. Stan notes he would now consider moving back from the 3.01 to the 3.03 in a startup to acquire McMillan, indicating McMillan is nearing cornerstone status.
Insight pageJayden Higgins
PositiveValue10:01
Despite a season-ending ACL injury, Jaden Higgins remains a strong buy-low target for rebuilding teams. While his 2024 production was limited, he is viewed as a high-upside asset who could see a value spike next offseason. Owners should hold if they already possess him, while rebuilders should look to trade veteran assets like Stefon Diggs to acquire him.
Insight pageNegativeRole23:41
Jaden Higgins is viewed as having a ceiling as a power slot or big slot wide receiver, which complements the team's offensive structure.
Insight pageNegativeValue65:31
Jaden Higgins is a comparable asset to Jacoby Lane, though the preference between them depends on whether the manager is contending or rebuilding. For those not competing, trading Lane for Higgins plus a fourth-round pick is a viable long-term move.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
PositiveUsage20:34
Jonathan Brooks is trending toward a 50-50 timeshare heading into Week 1, which has significantly boosted his dynasty value. He is viewed as a top-24 running back candidate from a points-per-game perspective, making him a priority target for contenders.
Insight pageKayshon Boutte
PositiveBreakout20:53
Kayshon Boutte is considered a strong buy, especially for those with roster depth to spare. He is described as wildly talented, evidenced by his 16.7 yards per catch in a limited sample size, and is now in a better situation with the Texans to showcase his skills.
Insight pageKeaton Mitchell
PositiveValue37:52
Keaton Mitchell is preferred over Woody Marks in a straight-up trade, with Applepay. Apply suggesting that one could potentially squeeze a third-round pick out of the deal as well.
Insight pageKenneth Gainwell
PositiveValue37:04
In a direct comparison trade, Applepay. Apply prefers Kenneth Gainwell over Woody Marks.
Insight pageKyle Williams
PositiveSleeper40:38
Kyle Williams is highlighted as a player with extreme upside who was buried on the depth chart last year but remains an interesting prospect to watch.
Insight pagePositiveValue40:38
Kyle Williams is a buy as a deep dynasty stash, though not worth giving up material assets. The speakers value him over a third-round rookie pick, citing his vertical threat ability and potential for a larger slot role in the Patriots' offense next year as Pop Douglas enters the final year of his deal.
Insight pageMark Andrews
NegativeProjection64:41
Mark Andrews' outlook is uncertain; some analysts believe he can return to top-six form, while others are more skeptical. A top-eight to 12 finish is a reasonable expectation for the upcoming season.
Insight pageMichael Pittman
NegativeValue23:41
There is a strong disagreement regarding Michael Pittman's value. While some argue he is a consistent, cost-effective producer compared to T. Higgins, others strongly advise against drafting him, citing a lack of elite fantasy point-per-game upside compared to higher-ceiling receivers.
Insight pageMike Washington Jr.
PositiveBreakout66:42
Mike Washington is a high-upside utility piece who could see significant usage early in the season, especially if Ashton Gentry is eased back from injury. His explosive preseason performance has driven his value up, making him a potential 'league winner' type asset if he secures a Zach Charbonnet-style role.
Insight pagePat Bryant
PositiveBust25:57
Applepay. Apply is out on Pat Bryant, suggesting that if any league mates are willing to buy the hype surrounding his Denver camp performance, it is a no-brainer to flip him for value.
Insight pageSaquon Barkley
NegativeValue20:00
Applepay. Apply suggests that if you are a Saquon Barkley owner, you should consider trading him for a package involving Tank Bigsby and a fourth-round pick, or potentially a rental tight end like Dallas Goedert or Hunter Henry in non-TE premium formats.
Insight pageTory Horton
PositiveBreakout28:55
Tory Horton is highly regarded for his immense ceiling, with Applepay. Apply projecting him as the long-term WR2 for the Seahawks alongside Jackson Smith-Njigba. He has shown production in limited samples and on special teams.
Insight pageTyreek Hill
NegativeValue20:45
Applepay. Apply notes that if you are currently holding Tyreek Hill and are unwilling to wait, he represents a specific price point for potential trade consideration.
Insight pageWoody Marks
PositiveUsage30:00
Woody Marks has shown significant improvement in explosiveness and contact balance during the preseason. He is viewed as a strong pass-catching back who could carve out a consistent role, making him a preferred dynasty asset over Rashad White due to contract security.
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0:56What is good? We're back. We've got a little moves to make action.
1:00Going to be playing off of some current events, things that have gone down in recent, I guess, last few hours at this point.
1:07But you'll probably see this in a few days.
1:10We got my man Stan from Dynasty Price Check.
1:12How you doing, Stan? First time on the show.
1:15Good to see you. Yeah, thanks so much for having me on, guys.
1:19I'm thrilled to chop it up with you guys.
1:22Tons of moving news in the NFL right now.
1:24And we are so damn close to football. I'm ready to go.
1:28It sounds glorious. Shave, you're on the side of the dirt.
1:31How we doing? Listen, I'm not going to lie.
1:34I mean, obviously, I've met Stan before, so this is not my first time talking to him.
1:39But your point about football, if we don't curtail the attack of the fucking substation, we're not going to have any players left.
1:46It's just true. I can't every single day. There's something different.
1:49Travion leaves with whatever he left with today. Ashton Gentia apparently died on the field.
1:54So let's let's talk about something happy like trading that we that we talk about.
1:58I think maybe we should just move to robot legs and then we're good.
2:03Everybody gets robot legs. That's right, Wally. That's right.
2:05Hey, it's not on the sheet, but I did want to start with this.
2:10I had mentioned it, but I didn't put it on here.
2:13First time I've talked to you about it, Shave, any concern for Cam Ward?
2:17Oh, I mean, I would be lying if I said I get a little bit more like the sax, the saxophones get
2:24a little bit louder every time that he goes out there and it looks like shit.
2:28So we're now over to in me being confident in seeing what I would like to see from Cam Ward.
2:35But also we've been fooled. We got Kenny picketed a few years ago by him looking phenomenal in the preseason.
2:41So maybe I'm hoping that like this is a double secret, uno reverse where we can just he can look like shit in the preseason.
2:48And then you just wallow magic turns it on.
2:51Maybe Brian Dayball. Maybe Brian Dayball is just saving all the good stuff for end season because I mean, we're over five on Carnell take target so far.
2:59Not that anyone's counting. Stan, before we move on to the Jaden Higgins injury, which is going to lead off and then
3:06obviously the trade there thoughts on Cam Ward real quick.
3:09Yeah, I look, I'm not going to bogart the mic on this one.
3:13I've actually talked to Shev about this in the past, but I'm significantly lower on Cam Ward.
3:18I think than the rest of the dynasty community call me crazy, but I've actually been saying often this offseason.
3:24This is a make or break season for Cam Ward's dynasty value.
3:28And what I mean with that is not that he's going to be written off forever and worth nothing.
3:33It's just when you talk dynasty ceiling, you're looking at that fourth, fifth round, right, which is really the hard thing to
3:40break through ceiling wise, because even guys like Brock Purdy and Bo Nix, right, it's rare you see him in the second
3:46or third round of a dynasty startup unless people are super quarterback hungry.
3:50And Cam Ward is in the fifth or sixth round right now when I typically run startups.
3:56But this is a guy that only had 159 rushing yards.
3:59He only had a 3.7% scramble rate last year.
4:02I mean, unless you see a significant uptick there, you'd have to have a Jared Goff level proficient pocket passing offense to
4:08work him into a range where he's going to be super fantasy relevant.
4:12Call me crazy, but the Titans, I don't think I've done enough to really push him to that level where I expect
4:19that offense to be giving that level of delivery and output.
4:22And so I think in general, Cam Ward's seen this nice uptick this offseason.
4:26I haven't exactly seen it translate even to start with the action we've seen so far.
4:31So call me Mr. Skeptical over here, but I'm fine transitioning off Cam Ward and I know that's not going to make
4:38Chev super happy, but I'm going to live with it.
4:41Yeah, I mean, look, I don't get too bent out of shape one way or the other about preseason.
4:46It really, to me, it just depends on can the Titans as an organization turn the ship around because that's what's important, getting a quarterback right.
4:54Can the organization get right? We've seen this time after time when the organization isn't right.
4:59It's really hard for the quarterback to be right.
5:02And so I think that's really the key. I think Dayball obviously has been around plenty of quarterbacks and turned them around.
5:08I'm not really necessarily terribly worried about that. Can the franchise itself just get the stink off of it?
5:14And I think then Cam Ward could be fine.
5:17Like maybe he doesn't rise and break through the ceiling, but I'm okay.
5:21He could be a great QB too, maybe throughout his career.
5:24And that's okay. Maybe he doesn't quite rise to where we think he would be, but I'm not saying that that's the case.
5:31I'm just saying I think the Titans need to rise before maybe he rises to being breakthrough that ceiling, like you were kind of saying.
5:39All right, let's jump over. Obviously, Jaden Higgins had an ACL huge bummer was a player that I know Shev and I
5:45were both, you know, pretty excited for this year to kind of see, maybe take the next level.
5:51Obviously, again, depending on that offense and CJ, whether or not I think that could really take place and get to a
5:57spot where we really like Jaden Higgins. But bummer of an injury here.
6:01But today we saw the Boutte trade happen. So that's fairly interesting.
6:05But before we move on to the Boutte part of it, what are we doing with Jaden Higgins, Stan?
6:10Is this a buy low opportunity? Are you getting out for what you can or are you just kind of holding Pat for next year?
6:18Yeah. Unfortunately, I never like to let the market really dictate too much of my dynasty behavior, especially when it comes to injuries.
6:25I mean, Jaden Higgins, yeah, his dynasty value has gone down.
6:28He's not going to score you any fantasy points this year.
6:32So that's just the reality of the situation. Unfortunately, your time to sell was long before this injury.
6:37Your time to sell was when the training camp news is coming out.
6:41He was making some nice highlight reel grabs and he looked like he was going to be the wide receiver too for the Texans.
6:48At this point, I think if you are Jaden Higgins owner, you sit on that bag, you hold it.
6:54You hope that next offseason, you get a nice similar spike and the narrative is happy around the recovery.
7:00Maybe some breakout year three conversations start stirring. But at this point, I think you got to hold from a buy low perspective.
7:06Yeah, my ultimate rebuilders out there are my one year punters looking towards next year, maybe to execute a swing trade.
7:13This is absolutely your chance to buy low. I mean, if you got a Stefan Diggs that's going to be dragging points
7:19down and ruin your draft pick next year, probably time to open that door up.
7:24Start knocking, do your trade talks and see if you can start shipping those veterans to bring in Jaden Higgins.
7:30Shiv, I know that you're going to be on the I think we're all on the basically I'm fine with buying low on Higgins here.
7:38I believe in the player, but I do like we look at the circumstance of Boutte comes in there.
7:43He's in a contract year and we'll talk about him in just a second and what we're doing with him.
7:49But like if he plays well, maybe he gets signed by the Texans.
7:53If Tank Dell returns, if Noel breaks out, if Schultz is going to do what Schultz does, but maybe maybe Klein shows something.
8:00There's a bunch of things that could make this much harder path for Higgins in the future here.
8:06So I think we're all on the buy low.
8:08But how do you view your stock of Jaden Higgins right now?
8:12Delayed, not denied. I mean, we say that we've said that all offseason about a number of players.
8:17I think that I mean, I thought this was a hand in glove fit in terms of him being able to play
8:24off the ball like the zero with Nico playing primarily the X receiver.
8:28They go and get Boutte. So now it gives them a little bit of flexibility.
8:32It's bag season. So you can probably you could probably just go and try to send some low ball offers.
8:38But I mean, the unfortunate thing about the 24 hour news cycle and everyone and their grandmother making content now is the
8:45fact that everybody's going to tell people to hey, if you're if you're bullish on Jaden Higgins to hold unless you're that one guy who said.
8:53So 84 percent of the time, if a receiver doesn't, he's a day to pick and he doesn't go over 525 yards.
8:59He's never going to go over 12 points a game.
9:02He's got a 76 percent chance to never go over 10 points a game.
9:07Then you should probably just sell Jaden Higgins for whatever the bag of peanuts or whatever you can get for him right now.
9:14If you're a reasonably brained person that thinks that, hey, it just takes a little bit of time.
9:19This was an offense that was in flux. CJ Stroud wasn't his best self.
9:23They could have, you know, what's better than one Nico Collins to Nico Collins.
9:27And that's what Jaden Higgins was representing himself to be last year.
9:31So I'm firmly in the buy low camp. There's somebody who wants to exit this Jaden Higgins party.
9:36I will be the one scooping up all the Jaden Higgins.
9:40I believed in him. He was my wide receiver five in that draft class, I believe.
9:45And the landing spot did nothing to deter me from feeling that way.
9:49And the fact that he had to compete with fellow Iowa State Cyclone Xavier Hutchinson early in his career doesn't deter me
9:55from the fact that I think that once he's healthy, we're going to get a better version of this offense.
10:01And everybody's playing for their jobs right now in Houston.
10:04And ironically enough, even though CJ Stroud performed at, you know, he's won playoff games in every single season of his career.
10:11So with that pressure that's coming on, Jaden Higgins is going to step back into an environment where it's kill or be killed.
10:18And I think that he's going to rise to the occasion.
10:21So I'm going to make that bet and I'm going to buy low on Jaden Higgins.
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11:16Watch terms and more at AppleCard.com. Some of the trades we have in the database right now from the 23rd, the 22nd.
11:23Higgins, I believe, got injured on the 18th. I could double check that.
11:27But the first one that pops up is Jaden Higgins for Aaron Jones and Jalen McMillan.
11:32How would you feel about that, Stan? Is that buying low enough for you?
11:36And I'm a big Jalen McMillan guy. I don't know where you stand on it.
11:40Yeah, yeah. Look, I'm born and raised in Seattle, Washington.
11:43Big Seahawks fan here. I also grew up in a family of UW goers.
11:47So Jalen McMillan is a staple in my household as well.
11:51And quite frankly, I think he's a lot better than what we're giving him credit for from a fantasy production standpoint.
11:57So I'm with you on that one. That'll be said, though.
12:00I think from a rebuilding standpoint, sure, I have no issue with it.
12:04I mean, I guess for what it's worth, you got about a year younger.
12:09You know, buy yourself another year on that contract, taking timetable.
12:12But I don't have an issue with that trade, especially from a rebuilding standpoint.
12:16How about Jaden Higgins, Cyrus Allen for Jonathan Brooks, Shiv?
12:19Which brings up a whole other topic, which we talked about last week of the Jonathan Brooks thing.
12:25So that kind of lends, how do you feel?
12:27What's your lens on Brooks? But Cyrus Allen and Jaden Higgins or Jonathan Brooks, which side would you be on there?
12:34The instant value, the instant oats of this whole deal is the Jonathan Brooks ascension back into fruition.
12:39We just got the word today that they're going to be in a 50-50 timeshare heading into week one.
12:45So his value is as high as it's been since you picked him in your rookie drafts or in a startup a couple years ago.
12:52So I'll go Jonathan Brooks. I think that both, if you are a firm, firm contender, then yes, I think that it's Jonathan Brooks.
12:59It's easy. It's easy, simple, clean. You get a return on investment immediately or it blows up in your face and you
13:06know that you made a mistake and go a different direction because you're not going to win every trade.
13:12But if you're rebuilding, if you're not trying to win this year, I do think Cyrus Allen's a really good player and
13:18Jaden Higgins isn't going to help you at all in 2026.
13:22So I can understand trying to offload to try to take points out of your lineup.
13:27I do think Jonathan Brooks has a chance to return value as a top 24 running back from a points per game perspective.
13:34But like I said, if you're rebuilding, you know you're not winning any money this year.
13:38Just go ahead and get Cyrus Allen and Jaden Higgins because a year from now, it could be a boat.
13:44I mean, Cyrus Allen could be a boat. I mean, apparently he's training camp Jerry Rice.
13:49So, you know, do whatever you will with that information.
13:52I got a couple more trades here and then we'll move on.
13:56Jaden Higgins just straight up for a second or 27 second.
13:59How do we feel about that? Stan? I'm fine with it.
14:02I'm hoping it's not projected super early. I feel like those 27 seconds are basically pseudo firsts from this year when we
14:09look at that top four class or at least how they're treated on the open market.
14:14So I think that one would be very placement dependent for me.
14:17But if you're looking 206 or later, I'll take the Higgins side.
14:21How about Higgins or Pittman, Shev? All right. So I'm going to say Higgins on the Shev side.
14:27I know you hate Pittman. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
14:29I'm going to answer for the podcast listeners. It's Jaden Higgins.
14:33It's never Michael Pittman for me. Not even if there's a fire.
14:36Stan? Shev, you and I are going to get into it on Michael Pittman, man.
14:41I'm not going to lie. I just did a huge segment a couple of weeks ago talking about Michael Pittman because he's
14:47been one of my guys over the last few years.
14:50And I always say, if you're a T. Higgins owner and you're drafting T.
14:55Higgins at the end of the fourth or the early fifth round, but you could wait to the 10th or 11th round
15:01to get Michael Pittman in your dynasty startup, you do it every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
15:07Because I could put the blind chart comparison fantasy points wise next to you over the last five years.
15:13Michael Pittman has scored better. So I know T.
15:16Higgins is all flashy and this might be the year that he capitalizes and plays a hell of a lot better.
15:22But by the numbers, he's not. Michael Pittman will continue to score at the same rate as him, if not better.
15:28And he's way cheaper and he's one year older.
15:31Are you saying you're saying that Jaden, you're saying, are you saying Jaden Higgins and T.
15:36Higgins or Jaden Higgins and Michael Pittman score the same amount of fancy points?
15:40Is that what you're saying? He's saying he's saying Michael Pittman and T.
15:44Higgins. You're not a blind comparison. Like as in T.
15:47Morris Higgins. Yeah. As in the guy who was, yeah, the guy who was 18 points a game in 2024.
15:53Michael Pittman hasn't approached that ever. 15 points a game in 2025.
15:57Michael Pittman may have one season where he was at 15 points a game in his entire career.
16:02So we could go over the course of five years.
16:05I believe five years ago was T. Higgins rookie year where Michael Pittman went 88 for 10, 32 and six.
16:11But T. Higgins went for 9, 30 and six as a rookie or seven as a rookie, if I'm not mistaken.
16:17So it's just that we don't have to get into this right now.
16:21But I thought this was a quick one. Yeah.
16:24Never, never Michael Pittman for me. Not even if there's a fire.
16:28And if you're giving me a choice between cutting my pinky off and selecting Michael Pittman in the late end of the
16:34draft, if you see me walking around like this from now on, then you just know that I chose never Michael Pittman ever.
16:41So no game. Well, this year, Michael Pittman is going to take all that underneath work from Aaron Rodgers.
16:47Stan, I do like Pittman. I love selecting Pittman in those ranges.
16:50I mostly brought that up because you were saying I think that's a dependent upon on where you are in the stage
16:57of your dynasty cycle with that trade. If you're on one side, then you're Higgins.
17:02If you're on the other side, it muster Shev.
17:04I think it could be Pittman if you're trying to win some money this year.
17:09Now, Shev disagrees, but we will digress from that one.
17:12Yeah. I have so many thoughts right now. I got one more just straight up.
17:16It's this happened on the 26th 12 team full PPR tight end premium.
17:20It was Jaden Higgins straight up for Omar Cooper.
17:23I still take Jaden Higgins. I'm going to lane Jaden Higgins as well.
17:27Call me the call me the Omar Cooper hater out here, but I don't know if I see the path.
17:33I'm OK to be for it to take a second for him to get out there, but I think I tend to agree.
17:40I just I really do. I like Jaden Higgins a lot.
17:43So I think that's really just kind of where that lies for me.
17:47Well, it's funny because I was looking at this.
17:50I was looking at some Jets fan randomly popped into popped on my timeline.
17:54It was like, man, it's like we're going to be pissed whenever we draft whatever receiver we draft and they can't beat
18:01out Adonai Mitchell for the wide receiver to spot.
18:03And that's exactly what's happened. So. And, you know, I'm Mitchell, which Adonai Mitchell's had it.
18:08It's been there. We've seen it. It just he hasn't put the whole thing together.
18:13And if he puts the whole thing together, then there's probably a reason that he keeps Omar Cooper off the field.
18:19And, you know, they should. And I wouldn't look that as a I wouldn't look that as a bad thing for Omar Cooper, that Adonai Mitchell kept.
18:27I know that gets tossed around a lot. Well, if this than that, which I don't think that that's always, you know, this guy's a veteran.
18:35He's been playing a while. He took his lumps.
18:38If he's right and catching the ball and doing everything that he can, Adonai Mitchell's a good receiver.
18:43So. Anyhow. All right, let's move on. Let's go to the bootay side of this thing.
18:48Unless just obviously traded to the Texans. I think this he's got a role that could he could walk right into.
18:54We don't know what tank Dell looks like. Noel kind of had a little bit of a shot last year.
19:00Look fine in doing so, but would probably play a different role than bootay anyway.
19:05Schultz was probably the one who was just going to walk into a big upgrade with Higgins.
19:10I mean, maybe not even a big upgrade because he's been rock solid generally if he's healthy.
19:15And I was thinking Woody Marks actually was probably somebody who benefited from a Higgins injury.
19:20But bringing bootay in there certainly makes things interesting.
19:23Stan, what would be a price point where you would want to be in or out on Keishon bootay here?
19:29Yeah, I think this is another one of those instances, right?
19:32It's like buy the rumors, sell the news. It's like, well, I wish I had bought more bootay three weeks ago when the trade rumors were swirling.
19:40Because I think you could have got him cheap.
19:43You could have sent maybe an Isaac Tesla. You probably, even before all these preseason woes, could have gone to the Cam
19:49Scadaboo owner and offered him Tyrone Tracy and a fourth round pick or just a little bit of a handcuff upside there.
19:56Now, I think you probably have to give up something of value.
20:00I'm probably thinking if you're the Saquon owner, you're probably offering him Tank Bigsby and maybe a fourth round pick sweetener.
20:06I'd probably be fine offering in a non-tight end premium format like a Dallas Goddard, someone that's more of a rental, a Hunter Henry.
20:13Now, I'm going to go back to what I was talking about earlier with Stephon Diggs.
20:18I think you probably do have to offer that level of upside to someone who's an immediate contender.
20:23And maybe if you're somewhere more in the middle playing with that 104 to 108 range from last year and you want
20:30to start swinging some upside here and start to stack your dynasty roster out, you probably got to offer him something worth of value.
20:37Maybe if you're sitting on a Tyreek Hill and you don't want to wait, that's probably about the price point I'd be looking at as well.
20:45Shev, what would be sort of a buy or a sell?
20:48And are you buying? I guess that should have been my first question to you, Stan.
20:53It's more of a buy than a sell for you right now.
20:57Obviously, time would have been better served on the other side of this trade, but you generally like the player.
21:03Yeah, yeah. I think this is one of those players that he's way better in real life than we've been able to see from a fantasy standpoint.
21:11I mean, even in limited sample size, right? Like 16.7 yards per catch last year.
21:16Definitely a guy that had some highlight reel moves.
21:18Obviously, we saw that crazy one-handed catch in the end zone last year.
21:22And so these guys are wildly talented. We forget sometimes because we're all caught up in the fantasy numbers of it, but
21:29this is still one of the best in the world at what he does.
21:33Now he gets an opportunity to show that in a way better light.
21:37And so I do think he's still a buy, especially if you have the capital and some guys down deep in your
21:44roster there that are getting up there in age that you could re-roll swing upside here.
21:48I think opportunity speaks volumes. And now, Butte got the opportunity.
21:52So let's take a swing on him. Shiv, we've been just trying to keep the light on for the booty warrior for a long time here.
22:00Just kind of singing the same things that Stan just said of just like, hey, this is a good player.
22:06Every time he gets opportunity, he does something fun with it.
22:09Like this has been a good player. Like, and from the path from where he started from, from just the first year
22:15being just like, oh my God, is this guy going to make it in the league?
22:20He was somebody who from rookie drafts, like before that was like, this guy could be a first round pick.
22:26In rookie, people were this hyped about this guy.
22:29And he's worked himself and rebuilt himself all the way, and the image of himself all the way back to this point
22:36gets traded and now has an opportunity. Shiv, how do you view this from a, like if we said, would you trade
22:42just a third round pick is your, you would definitely trade a third round pick right now for Butte?
22:48Without question. Third rounds get your guy season. I think with a lot of the drafts that you and I have been,
22:55well, shit, we've only done one together. But in that third round, I'll have to go back and look, but there's, I
23:01really believe in, I really believe in Kayshawn Booty.
23:04He's winning on the most difficult types of routes, which are deep down the field, outside the numbers.
23:09And he's delivering, he's, he's delivering on those, on that promise as Stan alluded to 16.7 yards of catch.
23:15So I'm, he would have been second in yards per route run amongst all Texans in 2025.
23:20The yards per catch would have been best on their team at 16.7.
23:24I think he adds an element, element of verticality that allows Nico to dominate in the middle of the field even more.
23:31And it gives them someone who can line up at X.
23:34We Casey, you and I discussed Jaden Higgins potentially ceiling outcome wise, being better as a power slot, a big slot wide receiver.
23:41That was part of what we talked about early on.
23:44So I think the fit with this team is him being, him taking pressure and alleviating pressure from Nico Collins and him
23:51being free to move around the formation a bit more.
23:54So it's bag season. This is a guy who you, I mean, you 10 out of 10, no notes on everything.
24:00He rebuilt his image. This was the guy who was in conversations to be the wide receiver, one of that 2023 class.
24:07And then it just all went to hell in a handbasket.
24:10He goes fifth round in new England and rebuilds everything.
24:13So, and I think his athleticism is vastly underrated.
24:16This is a guy who ran 10, six in high school and a hundred meter, a hundred meter dash.
24:21So he has real speed. He tested poorly. I think he was playing through an injury his last year at LSU.
24:28And all of that, along with all the character concerns that were swirling around him, led him to fall to the broken version of new England.
24:36Now he's been a part of that resurgence. Now he's with the Texans.
24:39And I think as a full-time player, a guy who's going to earn anywhere from 80 to 110 targets, potentially behind Nico Collins.
24:46I have to be in on this for a third round pick.
24:50Sign me up all day long. Yeah. So, you know, if we're, if we're doing rookie drafts now and you're in your
24:572026 third rounders, like, I think this is a no brainer.
25:00You know, even like, would you stand? Is it, I don't know where you stand and he's on the sheet, but like Jacoby lane or bootay.
25:08Oh, now this one's pulling up my heartstrings. Cause she might be knowing there just by giving you a little bit of a hint.
25:15I have been all in on Jacoby lane since November of last year.
25:19And look, I know everyone's probably out there saying that this time of year, you should have listened to me back in March.
25:26Go check the receipts. It's on the channel. All right.
25:29I love Makai lemon, but I was saying the high rate light reel tape on Jacoby lane is second to none.
25:35This man is acrobatic. He's got red zone upside.
25:38He showed you some speed, even at the combine that even I was not prepared for.
25:43So I think this is all coming to fruition now.
25:46So, you know, all to be said, I like bootay, but I'm going to go Jacoby lane.
25:51What I will throw back at you though, Casey is I think, you know where I'm at with, with bootay and how
25:57to capitalize here is Pat Bryant's getting a little tailwind in, in this, in this Denver camp.
26:03I'm out on Pat Bryant and Pat Bryant, you know, he's, he's only a year younger than bootay is now.
26:09And bootay is going into that contract year. I like betting on guys that are, that are trying to get paid here.
26:15So if there's anyone in your league, that's willing to buy the smoke on Pat Bryant, I mean, that's a no brainer flip for me.
26:23So I think that's, that's the more comfortable range.
26:25Okay. I like it. I was just trying to bring up some, some rookies this year that like would be at the back end of the second.
26:34Uh, in a lot of cases for, for a lot of people drafting super flex site and premium.
26:39Um, right now, I know we've gone through a few and lanes typically middle to end, at least right now.
26:45Um, what was definitely more of a mid third and now we've moved all the way up.
26:50So like, uh, would you like, like, you know, and we'll move on here in a second, but like you got Caleb Douglas and Cyrus Allen making noise.
26:59Would you rather have those guys or would you rather have somebody like a bootay show booty?
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27:56The Texans were tied with the lions for eighth in past attempts last year.
28:00There's going to be so much more volume. The Patriots were all the way down at like 30th.
28:05So just from the sheer volume of opportunity, I would be hard pressed to not be, not think that Kayshawn Butte's opportunities
28:12go up in a manner in which I, as much as I love Caleb Douglas, I have, I have the dolphins projected as a bottom two passing offense.
28:21So from a dynasty perspective, it could be, it's really good.
28:24It's found money with Caleb Douglas. I think he's a really good player.
28:28You know how I feel about Chris Bell, but right now, if I'm going into 2026, knowing that this dude's trying to
28:34get paid and knowing that they're going to throw the ball, a metric fuck ton, I'm going to bet on Kayshawn Butte
28:41because we've, we've been delayed, not denied. And now it's time for us to cash in.
28:46I like it. Hey, one more on the Butte and I want to kick it to Stan.
28:51Cause he's got the, he's got the Seahawks championship hat on Tori Horton or Butte.
28:55Oh, look at Jeff over there. It's hurting. It's hurting me.
28:59All right. Look, I'm going to let my Seahawks fandom shine through here.
29:03I I'm going to go Tori Horton there. I know he's been unable to stay healthy and entirely on the field, but
29:09I genuinely believe that the long-term future of the Seahawks looks like Jackson Smith and Jigbet, the one Tori Horton at the two.
29:16And even in that super limited sample size, we saw this guy was, he was getting it done.
29:22He was getting it done in the end zone.
29:24He was getting it done on special teams. I think iron sharpens iron too.
29:29You got to play against that number one defense every single week.
29:32I think Tori Horton ceiling is immense. Yeah, no, I mean, we, this is the Tori Horton fan club for sure over here.
29:39So I figured since you were a Hawks guy, I wanted to see where you stand there, but it was a bummer
29:46that we didn't get to see the run out of Horton last year for sure.
29:50So, all right, let's move on. Let's go to the, let's go to the running back situation.
29:55Apparently we're doing all Texans today, but Woody Marks has been getting some love.
30:00Obviously, you know, again, Shev and I have been, well, I don't know.
30:04I was a big Woody Marks guy last year.
30:06We, we have to, we have to give the context of things.
30:10I was a LaQuint Allen guy. You're a Woody Marks guy.
30:13Woody Marks goes in the fourth round and immediately carves out a role behind the ghost of Nick Chubb, which enjoy retirement.
30:20Nick Chubb, shout out to you. But yeah, Woody Marks.
30:23And then if you watch what he looked like last, this last preseason game, it looks like totally different dude.
30:29Yeah. I did not see this. I watched a shit ton of Woody Marks and I did not see this, like this level of explosiveness, contact balance.
30:37He looks like a really good running back. Yeah.
30:40Not just like a, Oh, Oh, it's, it's good.
30:42It's good. It's like, no, he looks, he looks really good.
30:46Yeah. No, I mean, I, I thought, I thought he was better than given credit for throughout his college career, kind of
30:52banging through the tackles a little bit, but it was the past catching that made me super excited, you know, especially as
30:59a late round running back as far as fantasy drafts go.
31:02And last year he probably got thrust into a situation where that offensive line was awful.
31:07They've completely rebuilt it. And they're still even playing with it a little bit right now.
31:12We're thinking maybe they might even kick the rookie out to a guard and move the guy that they brought in from Arizona.
31:19I'm drawing a blank on his name right now to center right now.
31:23Cause he's been drawn a lot of praise in camp.
31:26So we'll see how that shakes out, but this Texas line should be an upgrade.
31:30Woody marks looks good. They brought in David Montgomery, which should be an upgrade to Nick Chubb from where Nick Chubb was last year.
31:37We can kind of go through the value of Woody marks a little bit, but the way Woody, I want to talk
31:44about this first, the way Woody's looking, is anybody concerned about the outcome for David Montgomery and him, you know, maybe being
31:51closer to 50, 50 than anybody expected Stan. This is a tough one.
31:55I think, you know, from what we've seen the eye test.
31:58Yeah. It makes me a little nervous. I mean, he does look better and there's no denying it, right?
32:04The film doesn't lie. That all being said, I think the high value touches when we talk about fantasy football is really
32:10where David Montgomery is going to excel. I still expect him to be the power back, you know, that gets you those
32:17goal line touches that are obviously where the most ability to score points come into play.
32:22I think he's going to get the early down work still.
32:25I think my thing with Woody marks, not to jump the gun entirely is just the dynasty psychology behind it.
32:31I mean, this man, December 29th birthday. So he's going to be 26 years old before this NFL season is over.
32:37Sure. I just don't know the path that I see with Woody marks of making like a very solid argument.
32:43This guy is a value riser. That's going to stick because once we hit next off season and we all get to
32:50do this content machine again for another six months, everyone's just going to be talking about the age and the, the, you
32:57know, backup role and that he doesn't have a path here to true dynasty relevancy.
33:01And I think it's just, you have a limited ceiling with him that all being said though, I will give it to you.
33:08Yeah. Makes me a tiny bit nervous as the David Montgomery owner that this man's going to eat a little bit of my pie.
33:15I think if you see what we're starting to maybe see little inklings of, and again, we don't want to overreact too much to preseason.
33:23David Montgomery is a great running back. And if, if healthy, I think is going to be just fine.
33:29Like you said, I think the high value touches kind of that sort of stuff.
33:33But if Woody marks can just earn and show you that, Hey, I belong on this field, I'm earning touches and I'm a good pass catcher.
33:41Like we can have like right now, if, if everything's all the same, would you rather have Woody marks or Rashad white?
33:48I would rather have Woody marks. And here's the thing I'll say actually, Casey.
33:52And I think you made a great point there.
33:55What I want to see at Woody marks this year is, is a role understanding and carving that out so that I
34:01actually have something to hang my hat on. Like I want him to show me, this is what I'm going to do
34:08for you from a fantasy football perspective, and then prove it to me so that I know next off season, okay, this is what I'm buying.
34:16Right. And if what I'm buying is a RB three spike week here and there, or a consistent flex option with a
34:22floor of 9.5 points per game, because he's catching four passes guaranteed, and he's going to get 10, you know, rushing opportunities.
34:29Then that's something I can't hang my hat on.
34:32It's just, we haven't seen enough, right? Last year was a little bit of a mess in that Texans backfield.
34:38So show me what I can believe in. Shev, I know you've been a Rashad white guy.
34:43And the reason I bring him up there, they're pretty close in crowdsource rankings right now at the FFD.com for super flex
34:49PPR, a wide receiver, or sorry, running back 43 and running back 45 for Rashad white.
34:54So marks is overtaken him in the last few days, but Rashad white's been on the rise as well.
35:00How do you, you know, if you, I don't know.
35:03Also, I feel like can have similar runouts for their careers.
35:06Right. I mean, I think they could be similar usages.
35:09If there's an injury, you could last year, you kind of saw it with, they had to hang their hat on marks.
35:16He was their best guy. Chubb was banged up.
35:19Chubb was a shell of himself. And so Woody marks got maybe something he wasn't even fully ready for at that time.
35:25So Rashad white or Woody marks right now, chef.
35:28It's Woody marks simply because I have this year plus two more years of contract security with Woody marks.
35:34And he's a year or two younger than Rashad white.
35:37So Rashad white one year, $2 million deal in Washington.
35:40We could be playing limbo, the fantasy musical chairs game.
35:43And he could be somewhere else next year. I think that with Woody marks, he's shown the necessary improvements.
35:48That I wanted to, I want to see as a running back.
35:52And he's tied to the organization for at least two more seasons beyond 2026.
35:56So with Woody marks, it's, it's safe. The, the outcomes are probably similar at this point in time.
36:02You've got the, all of the camp buzz that, uh, you Corey cross key merit bill has been generating.
36:07So it just isn't, there isn't enough safety in selecting Rashad white or 2026.
36:122026. And then after that, you're not, you don't have any clarity of where he'll be playing American tackle football after that.
36:18So, yeah. And I feel like, like you said, Stan, like there there's, you're trying to figure out exactly what he is,
36:25what his role is, how, what he's going to carve out, how he can be.
36:29I think he's a, I think he's a more useful player in a, for a good team to, to, to fix in your, your flexes.
36:37Hey, I'm her. I need an RB too. Like he's not probably somebody you want to lean on consistently.
36:43Great best ball target. I think. Um, but I feel like generally hard to value and hard to like, even just looking
36:49through trades right now, like he's generally somebody who you don't see a lot of like heads up trades, one for one values.
36:56He's usually somebody who's in there helping something get done, but here's one that just popped up.
37:01Woody marks where Kenneth gain. Well, and Bryce Lance.
37:04Ooh, I'm going to take Kenneth gain. Well here.
37:07Okay. So you'd rather have the gain. Well, Lance side on that one.
37:11Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. That was one of the ones I could find.
37:15That was just kind of two or one or one and two.
37:18Here's a Woody marks and a third for a 27 second chev.
37:22So basically the two, three swap for Woody marks.
37:24That's found money. Cause Woody marks was like a fourth round rookie pick.
37:28So I'll go 27 second. Okay. So processed, uh, based trade there.
37:32Uh, I don't, you can't, you can't hate that.
37:35Uh, but generally, like I said, just coming through here, he's a piece in a deal.
37:40He's usually not, you know, the deal that you're making to, to find something to get, you know, he helps to get, he helps deals get done.
37:48Here's Keaton Mitchell or Woody marks straight up. That's one of the only ones powder blue.
37:52A chance. Oh, you're going to keep it. See, I'm taking Woody marks there.
37:57I know you should, you should take, you should, but every, I just made a process trade.
38:02Now I'm going to make the trade that makes everybody go crazy.
38:05Uh, powder blue, a chance simply because I'm going to bet on the upside.
38:10I would probably, I think if you wanted to flesh that out and, you know, just do a great job there to,
38:16to squeeze the maximum amount of value out, you could probably get like a third with Keaton Mitchell to go from Keaton Mitchell to Woody marks.
38:24We're going to move off of Woody marks for Keaton Mitchell right now.
38:28But there are some people, there are some people out there who are aware of what the first season with Devon H
38:35and, and, uh, Raheem Mostert look like. And so that's, that's an outcome that they've convinced themselves of.
38:40I'm not sure because I don't know about this Tyler Biotish being out for the year, but yeah, I would go, I'd go Keaton Mitchell.
38:48I'd probably try to squeeze a third or something out of that as well and move off of Woody marks because that
38:54could be a more explosive run environment. And I do think he's going to play a little bit more than what people
39:01are giving it credit for right now. It's Woody marks for me.
39:04Stan, where are you at? Yeah, I'm going to lean Woody marks.
39:08I just seen, see the, uh, the more clear path to production there.
39:12Anything happens to David Montgomery. I think I'm flipping Woody marks for a pretty penny versus, uh, if something happens to Hampton,
39:19I think we're still going to have a one, two punch with the doll in the building.
39:24I actually think Kamani Vidal is not a bad back by, by any stretch of the imagination.
39:29So, so here's one more. I'm going to move on, um, which this was before bootay got traded, but Woody marks and Taequann Thornton or bootay.
39:37Woody marks and Taequann Thornton or bootay Woody marks, which basically you could just say Woody marks or, or bootay.
39:43Cause Thornton, Thornton. Like I think Thor Thornton was a P whopper King for us last year and was great.
39:49But, um, generally I think he's going to be a tough start and unless it's like a best ball situation.
39:55Yes. Yes. The only way you could, you know, you play in Taequann Thornton in the year of our Lord, 2026, you there's a hotline.
40:02You probably need to call bootay or Woody marks and we'll, and we'll, we'll keep it moving.
40:07Woody marks. Yeah. I'm going to slightly go Woody marks, but Hey, if you're a rebuilder and this is the best you
40:14can get, I'll take the receiver upside and hope he's worth more next year.
40:18Yeah. There's a couple of like thirds in there for Woody marks, which I'm fine with trading the third for Woody marks.
40:25If I, if I need them, um, um, there's like a Jordan Mason in there for Woody marks, which I think I might lean Mason there.
40:33Um, but close. So, all right, to wrap this whole thing up, the Kyle Williams fall outside of this.
40:38Is there a, is this a buy seller hold for Kyle Williams at this particular juncture?
40:43Stan. Ooh, I like some Kyle Williams. All right.
40:46I I'm really letting my hometown fandom go through the roof.
40:49Another episode with you guys. Yeah. You're pulling on all my Washington heartstrings today.
40:53And look, I liked Kyle Williams a lot coming out of the draft last year.
40:58We didn't get to see any of it, but this is a guy that also does have an extreme amount of upside.
41:05Although he's was kind of buried deep down the roster chart here.
41:08I'm not going to go on my Kyle Williams rant here, or we'll be here for an hour, but I think Kyle Williams is a buy.
41:16I think he's by, I think Romeo Dodds and AJ Brown are going to keep mostly off the field of fantasy relevancy
41:23in the immediate, but like deep stash Kyle Williams is by, but I'm not giving up anything material to get him.
41:29Okay. I'll, I'll flip a Malik Washington, or maybe, maybe I'll, I'll flip, uh, you know, uh, an 80 Mitchell, or I'll
41:36give the B John Robinson owner, Brian Robinson city can, sleep more comfortable at night, but I'm not selling the farm for Kyle Williams right now.
41:43A third. I'll do a third because I think like she said before, and this is kind of where I've always been
41:50with picks like thirds or get your guy territory.
41:53Like if you, if you have a preference, like, okay, is there going to be another Kyle Williams in the third round next year?
42:00Sure. But would I rather just have Kyle Williams who I like?
42:04Probably. All right. We got to go over to chef here, but shout out to the pod father.
42:09Kyle Williams come for that ass. Jeff. Whoa. Oh, Oh, you'd give the third for Kyle.
42:14Right. I mean, that's your boy. Yeah. Okay. First of all, I mean, we just, I just put a tweet out there
42:21that said, Kyle Williams is a delayed, not denied dynasty asset.
42:24And every single time I know that whoever Dickhead three, four, five is in my mentions about this.
42:29Oh, he's, if he was good, he wouldn't be playing during a preseason game.
42:33So every single time that he's given an opportunity, it shows up.
42:37It's the same. It's the same principle as Kayshawn Boutte, the booty warrior, but it's just on a much smaller scale.
42:43One catch, 70 yards, touchdown, one catch, 69 yards, touchdown in a preseason game.
42:48He, this is what showed up on his film out of, yeah, out of Wazoo.
42:52And you saw him have tremendous success at Wazoo with Cam Warden in the last year with whoever the quarterback was, but
42:59he was doing some really cool stuff. And I think that this is going to be a guy that they just kind of, he's on the back burner.
43:07I mean, it's pop Douglas's last year of his deal with the Patriots.
43:11So maybe does maybe next year with Romeo Dobbs and AJ Brown and him manning the slot.
43:16Does he get a full-time opportunity? We'll see. But yeah, give me a third or excuse me, give me Kyle Williams over
43:23the third round pick just because if that's the range where I'm going Zachariah branch or if Skylar bell has slipped back
43:30to that, I like Kyle Williams better as a prospect.
43:33And I like what I've seen him do at the NFL level in very limited snaps.
43:37So I would rather take that bet. Yeah. I think the, the bet for me is like, can Kyle Williams become a
43:44more of more than just a vertical threat receiver, which I think he can.
43:48But what, but when we do see the vertical threat receiver being played, like he looks fast on an NFL field.
43:55Right. And I think like, like bootay, I felt like had showed us like, Hey, I can do other things besides just have this kind of role.
44:03I can be an actual X receiver here. We've seen it at times.
44:07We haven't seen that yet from Kyle Williams. Cause he hasn't really had the opportunity, but when you do see Kyle Williams, it's an electric play.
44:14Like you said, Jeff, and that's, that's good enough for me to hang on the kind of the 80 Mitchell run out.
44:21Right. Yes. Oh, we've seen electric plays from him.
44:24We haven't seen a ton of drops from Kyle Williams.
44:27Like we, we saw, you know, AD had some run out and then just had, had some drops in some big area.
44:33The Colts were kind of done with them, moved on and maybe going to get a second life here.
44:39And maybe that's what it takes before Kyle Williams actually gets a real opportunity is the second life.
44:45But it does seem like with the skills, like it seems like the three skill sets that the Patriots mainly have right
44:51now, all are complimentary of one another, which is what I really like about Kyle Williams opportunity this year to just catch
44:58a little bit of fire because he operates completely different than the two other guys that they have as well as the, you know, the tight ends.
45:06So that's, I'm with you guys. I definitely a third, I don't want to go too crazy with, you know, it's hard
45:13to value Kyle Williams necessarily at the time. And he's probably again, going to be more of like somebody who I don't
45:19singularly target, but I'm constantly going back and forth to trying to get him thrown into the trade.
45:25Right. He's not a singular asset trade. He's a, you know what?
45:28I'll take Kyle Williams from the bottom of that bench over there, man.
45:32And you know, most people are going to say, yeah, sure.
45:35Not Chev, Stan or I, but most people. So anyway, let's, let's transition to a, a big, a big time player here in, in Ted McMillan.
45:43Um, now Stan, I don't know where you stand on, on Ted, but we're currently, he's currently wide receiver nine and super
45:50flex PPR, um, FFD, uh, crowdsource rankings, which were like 40, less than 40,000 away from a million swipes.
45:56So come on over to the FFD, get some swipes in and, uh, and help your boys out, help yourself out, ask
46:02yourself some questions that you didn't know needed. Answering, uh, with the swipes there.
46:06So anyway, currently wide receiver nine super flex PPR 26 overall.
46:10He had about a 15% slot usage last year, but it does seem like the game plan this year is to get
46:16those rookie numbers up a good bit. And we actually, I, when we were, I think, were you?
46:22Yeah, we did the test stuff together. Um, I kind of had a similar, like with Jaden Higgins, like I thought power
46:28slot would have, is a good move for him.
46:31And now we're getting it a little bit. How, and Stan, I want to go to you first.
46:37Cause I know where, I know where Shev and I kind of stand on this.
46:41Um, does this move the needle at all for you with Ted?
46:45And if you weren't in on tech before, I mean, this is the tough thing for me.
46:50I'm already all the way in on Ted. In my player rankings, he's wide receiver 10 and dynasty, but you know, have
46:56your cake, eat it to nine, 10, whatever you prefer.
46:59I own a ton of Ted. I bought a ton of Ted during the season last year.
47:05Now, what you are talking about is exciting to hear for us.
47:08Ted lovers out here. We can all put on our, our, we love Ted McMillan shirts and wear them together at the fantasy meetup every year.
47:16But yeah, that slot rate last year, I believe was between 15 and 16% for Ted or O McMillan.
47:22Now, what are we talking about? Doubling that maybe up to 30%.
47:25Okay, great. Give me more opportunities for Ted or O McMillan to get the ball in his hands early and often from
47:32Bryce young, who hasn't exactly been the staple of passing glory.
47:35So I think all being said, if my Tets bags weren't already massive, I'd be buying more of them.
47:41Well, she have, you know, we've been talking about this offensive line and the, and the, they're a little bit banged up
47:48and, and kind of put it together and, and maybe it'll turn out to be okay.
47:52But again, I feel like just this move just gives Bryce even more of an easy button to, Hey, get the ball out of your hands.
48:00There's this huge man over here. Just toss it over to him.
48:04Extension of the run game with Ted McMillan. Right.
48:07So, you know, I would love to hear your thoughts.
48:10Again, I know you were very high on, as you call him the big pineapple.
48:14But what does this do for your confidence in all the things that you've loved about Ted or O McMillan?
48:20I mean, we've got like, how many targets can this man get this year?
48:24It's just, it's gotta be, we're going to get the easy ones as well as, you know, obviously he's a red zone
48:31kind of guy with, with this kind of size.
48:34He has a chef. What has this done for your Ted or O McMillan feelings?
48:38Ooh, buddy. I, I saw this and then I found myself.
48:42I woke up levitating above the fucking cement aisle.
48:44I could not believe that this was my gripe with, this was my gripe with the Panthers and Ted or O McMillan.
48:51And the way that, the way that Dave can now is former wide receivers coach kind of deployed him.
48:57Last year, they didn't do any of the red zone stuff.
49:00That's, that's his thing. Just going up and winning 50, 50 balls.
49:04He's six, four, almost six, five. He's athletic. You saw that at the university of Arizona.
49:08You saw now he was more physical than what I anticipated coming into the, coming into the league.
49:14He was, you know, he's trying to run people over.
49:17He's trying to finish plays. So if they're going to then give him the short area, easy targets and bring that a
49:23dot down to where we can go from 120, 24 targets that he had as a rookie to one 50, one 55.
49:30And that, that raises the ceiling of the passing offense in and of itself, because my biggest issue is that all that
49:37said, Ted O'Neill and going 70 for a 10, 24, 10, 14 and seven last year, that all happened with the Panthers averaging 188 yards passing a game.
49:45So can we get that to, can we get that to two 30?
49:49Can we get it to just somewhere that's, that's respectable that where it puts you on pace to throw for close to 4,000 yards.
49:56What does that look like for Ted O'Neill and McMillan?
49:59That's 150 targets, probably 110 receptions, probably 1400 yards and seven to 12 touchdowns.
50:03So now we're talking about a probably top five wide receiver finish.
50:07So this is the music to my ears that I've been waiting to hear all off season.
50:12And I couldn't be more excited about it. Would you got like, so does this put hand like Drake London or, or Ted O'Neill and McMillan?
50:20Uh, uh, light skin. I'll guy. Meaning Drake, meaning Drake London.
50:23Yes. Still Drake London. Yes. Okay. Stan still. I'll go Drake London, but it's dang close and, and not to pull on
50:30this string too much and go on in the side, but I will say I was in a dynasty startup not that long ago.
50:37And I was sitting there at the three Oh one.
50:40Drake London had somehow fallen. I had the opportunity to move back to the three Oh three.
50:45And I got actually a great return where I was able to, you know, move from the ninth round up to the sixth round.
50:53I ended up doing it. And I took 10 at the three, three came away with, with a Saquon Barkley instead of
50:59a Deandre Swift felt really good about it. So I think like, that's the level of margin I'm playing with now where
51:06it's like, yes, I'm going to take Drake London, but it's no longer far and away.
51:11Like I would definitely hear, hear the deals here.
51:13All right. I CD lamb at 27 and a half years old.
51:17And Ted, a row of McMillan with, you know, if you know, Bryce young, everybody's a little trepidatious about him.
51:23The line are the Panthers for real or not, which, you know, I thought what we saw at the end of the year from the Panthers was nice.
51:31Right. I feel like it was a good boat of confidence to feel okay.
51:36Going into this year where you were kind of maybe losing a little bit of confidence, but what, what would it look
51:42like to go from Tet to CD? I mean, obviously if you're a big time competitor, you probably don't want to do
51:49that, but like middling team, maybe starting to age a little bit.
51:52Like, is there a scenario that you could paint where you'd be willing to go from, from CD?
51:58I mean, obviously there's always a scenario you can pay, but like without too much extra.
52:03I think at the bare minimum, it's a, it's a one, two pick swap.
52:07Like I would, I would hear it. I mean, if we're expecting, let's just say you're looking at a team that doesn't have a great roster build.
52:15And I think I can get a top six pick in 2027 and I would be sending away what I project to be a late 27 second.
52:23So you're talking a pretty solid jump there. I I'd hear the argument for sure.
52:28Shiv. This is, this is tough. If I'm, if I'm a team, that's just, just kind of middling their way to one
52:34Oh six or one Oh seven with CD lamb.
52:37I would, if I could, the smash except is getting some sort of first round pick with Ted or McMillan to, to come off of CD lamb.
52:45But I would take an early 70, second in a late second in the same class, like this 2027 class to come off of CD lamb.
52:53You're saying go back from CD to Tet and pick up two twos.
52:57Yes. Yes. I believe the pick swap from like, you'd take a, you'd go back from, you'd swap the second for the first basically.
53:04Yeah. I go CD in a second for Tet and the first, if the shoe fits.
53:09Yeah. I'd say this is interesting. This is interesting because I feel like there's been a lot of, like I said, trepidation
53:16with, with Ted of just like, yeah, we, cause we've kind of got them hanging right outside of that cornerstone range.
53:22At least that's where we've been sitting, but like right on the doorstep.
53:26But I felt like we couldn't quite give it to him.
53:29And this feels like the nudge to, to make them into a cornerstone as far as the dynasty, you know, that asset.
53:36And maybe you were already there, Stan, but I know she haven't, I had multiple conversations.
53:41Is he, isn't he? It's just, it was the, we just had to see, we had to have the outcome confirmed.
53:47Like with everybody else that we considered a cornerstone, we already had, Hey, this was 16 and a half points a game for Drake London.
53:54Hey, this was a record all time record for receivers, for targets and receptions for Malik neighbors.
54:00We haven't had that. We had a great season from Ted Aro Macmillan in an offense that didn't really have a seal, a true ceiling.
54:07Like I said, Bryce young 188 yards passing a game last year.
54:11So we need that to, we need that to be confirmed in order for us to go ahead and go from the 13 points a game.
54:19He was as a rookie. We need 16. We need 17 to make him a cornerstone.
54:23Yeah. Look, I think my thing with Ted and this is the bird of one, right?
54:28Is it's a lot less of a conversation about Ted and it's way more of a conversation about the quarterback.
54:34I mean, if Ted Rowe Macmillan had a, had a bow Nix or a Brock Purdy, I think we would say he's a cornerstone asset.
54:42I mean, when we were talking about Bryce young a second ago, the crazy thing with Ted Rowe Macmillan, when Bryce young
54:48cleared 205 passing yards, Ted Rowe Macmillan averaged over a hundred receiving yards during those games.
54:53So like, if you could just give him a quarterback that was averaging over 200 passing yards a game, which isn't the
55:00steepest ask, that's a bonafide cornerstone in my book.
55:03And I think we've seen the same issues, at least for me with Garrett Wilson, right?
55:07Like you had quarterback limitations there, but Garrett Wilson's a guy that I would have been fine saying is a cornerstone asset from a talent perspective.
55:15A couple of years back, if we just had the Aaron Rogers experiment pan out, or we actually had some sort of
55:22not ring around the Rosie get up in, in New York.
55:25And so I think that's my, that's, that's my, my spiel on Ted, but cornerstone, you might already have me there.
55:31Yeah, I like it. Basically. Like I look at it as, yeah, like we can, we can, like you said, that was
55:38a good stat pool of, of over 200. If he throws for over 200 yards, Ted basically goes for a hundred.
55:44If we, we had 70 receptions last year, if we can, if we can just easy button 25 more receptions, we're looking
55:51like we're going to get South of a hundred receptions.
55:54We're close to a hundred receptions and a hundred receptions of just, especially PPR just walks him into, you know, into a, into the cornerstone territory for me.
56:02If we're going to say, Hey, we can, we're going to be a, we're going to have Ted a row of McMillan.
56:09We're going to have that upside when things go well, but when they don't, if we're going to force feed like 20
56:16more targets for the year to him, I think we're, I think that makes me pretty excited.
56:21So just wanted to bring that up. It felt like it was something that was tantalizing there.
56:26So we've got about 10 minutes left here. We're going to go quick.
56:30We've got two or three more things to talk about.
56:33Let's talk about stripling, obviously super hot in the streets right now, but let's just go buy, sell, hold around the room.
56:40And then I'll pull up some trades while we're going just general sense.
56:43Shev, I think I know where you stand, but buy, sell, hold on strip, hold Stan.
56:48Buy for the right price, but, but hold. Yes.
56:51Okay. So the last trade in the database is stripling and a 27 third or a 27 first.
56:56So a 27 first for stripling and a 27 third.
56:59You don't like Stan doesn't like it. I'll take my first round pick there.
57:04Yeah, I'm taking, yeah, I'm 1000%. This is again, process wise.
57:07You were taking stripling depending now, again, this is when you do your rookie drafts is, is in the first round now.
57:14Like, yes, he is firmly in the first round.
57:16Now he was not, if you did again, this is for, this is for my guy in the comments that was like,
57:23why do you do your rookie drafts so soon after the, after the NFL draft?
57:27It's because Deshaun stripling goes in like the fourth round of those rookie drafts.
57:32And now I can go get a first round pick for him.
57:35So give me the 27 first. I'm willing to be wrong.
57:39He could be the next Puka Nakua, but I, I will live with, I will live with my failures and I will
57:45just take, I'll take the found money and I could go do something else.
57:49Cool. With that first round pick. I, I feel like that is this, this is peak male pattern, rookie horniness.
57:55And we're seeing the outcome confirmed that, Hey, Deshaun stripling, the organization had really high hopes for him.
58:01Here's like, here's eight receptions in a preseason game.
58:04Here's seven receptions in a preseason game. Here's him doing all the cool stuff that he did in college.
58:09So I, I could capitalize on that and take the first round pick.
58:13I have no problems with that whatsoever. I'm seeing a couple of, 28 seconds in here.
58:18Does that, is that, is that easier mind a little bit of taking the 28 second or would you, or, or stripling on that side?
58:26Cause I'm thinking stripling on the 28 side. Give me, give me stripling over a second.
58:30I'd even do a mid 27 second at this point.
58:33Call me crazy with how much hype that class.
58:36Sorry. Sorry. A 28, a 28 first, a 28 first.
58:39I'm seeing a lot of 28 first. I'll take out that.
58:42I'm good. I'll push that out. I'll take stripling and see what the run out is here because I think I'm still
58:49going to be able to get it. You know, somebody will be interested.
58:53Um, but the 27, I can understand the 28.
58:56I'm fine with, I'm fine with, I'll take strip.
58:58You get, you got more time to try to figure out how to get that, how to get that pick back.
59:05But at the same time, again, process wise where I have stripling, I took him in the fourth round.
59:10I took him in a third round. Understood. Understood.
59:13But at some point. Yeah, no, I mean, I, somebody's going to come knocking for that 28 first and, and let, uh, I'm okay with it.
59:21What I'm saying is I'm okay with cashing out stripling for a 28 first.
59:25If I need stripling or if I need, like I need depth, then you can just, you can hold him and say, Hey, all right.
59:33I think this is the elevator is not at the top floor.
59:36I'm good with that. What is, what is your sense here with getting, you know, two years out on a first trade?
59:43Yeah, I look, I, I think from what you were saying, Casey, you know, I talk about the dynasty rental strategy all the time.
59:50Send your 28 first, use the player for a year.
59:53If you're pretty confident, you can get a first back form next off season.
59:57Then you depreciated the asset, almost nothing. Right. Maybe if I got to give a first and a third, okay, I don't
60:04get the third back a year from now. Big whoop.
60:07I rented him for a third. I could see that argument.
60:10I think I'm still taking the first. And I think the only reason for that is just based off the psychology of
60:17what I know that first can get me in package deals down the line.
60:21I think it's just like, okay, I shop it to the right guy.
60:25I take quench on Judkins. I add a first.
60:28Now I can go buy myself a hammer, you know, for a contending run, a Jonathan Taylor, a James cook, Devon H and to the right guy.
60:36That all being said, I think it's just, it's fringe though.
60:39It's fringe. Yeah. I would, I would say that's a luxury situation.
60:43If you're sending out the 28 to buy strip, that, that, that would be the, I'm not, I don't want to buy them because I need them.
60:51I want to buy them because I can. And I, and I know I'm, I've been, my construction is rock solid and
60:58it's probably going to be most like, I mean, you never want to get too far down the line, but all right.
61:04One more Tony Pollard and strip or Roma dunze.
61:07It's gotta be Rome, right? It's gotta be Rome.
61:10Yes. And you guys are really hitting me on every single Washington guy in the book.
61:15Did we gear this as the Seattle? That was not intentional.
61:18That was unintentional. We just happen to like a lot of the Washington guys.
61:22All right. We got two more things we want to talk about.
61:26And we're almost out of time. We had Jacoby lane on the, on the sheet.
61:30So buy, sell, hold Jacoby lane, Shev. I'll go you first.
61:33Cause it feels like that you, that you like lane over there.
61:37Stan buy, sell, hold, and then we'll, we'll throw a couple of trades out.
61:41Hold hold. This is everything. So all the things that he's good at is, are what the, what the Ravens are asking him to do.
61:49This is not a square peg round hole situation.
61:52I, this is to me, this is signal, not noise for where you're able to get him.
61:57I've had to, I told you on the front end when he got selected by the Ravens, him and Surratt, I was
62:03bummed about that because I was like, man, there's just not enough ceiling around for them to actually see a ceiling outcome.
62:10But now with the uncertainty surrounding Rashad Bateman, with the uncertainty, you know, and what like the role is going to look
62:17like with Declan Doyle, I'm going to hold and just see where this goes because almost certainly it's not going to go to zero.
62:24And if it's not going to go to zero, there's a good chance.
62:28And we'll put the foot, like we put the pedal to the metal and we're, we're pushing this down eight, nine, 10 weeks.
62:35He's caught five or six touchdowns because Mark Andrews may or may not be cooked.
62:39And now they need a new red zone weapon.
62:42And it's just him and Zay in the red zone, just doing real cool stuff.
62:46So I would, I would hold here. If I have, if I have Jacoby lane, I would even, I would even start sending twos.
62:54If I'm like, Hey, I want to take a bet on Jacoby lane because everything that I thought, everything that we saw
63:00him be good at at USC, even though like the details aren't there as a, as that you would necessarily like to
63:07see all of the, all of the talents are being accentuated.
63:10And if that's going to be the case, then we could get to positive outcomes for him faster and sooner than later.
63:17And we could figure out how to do all the rest of the things.
63:21Yeah. As we're, you know, kicking it down the road.
63:24All right. So over to, over to Stan here, we got a six, four 22 year old, just specimen here.
63:30And I think, you know, the reason that I would lean more hold than anything is just because sort of alluding to
63:37what Chev does, like the highlight plays are going to be think the things that people remember from him.
63:42So I feel like the value. And to me, this just comes down to is Declan Doyle good at being an OC or not.
63:50If he is, then lanes probably, you probably should hang on to him.
63:54So what, what draw, what drew you to lane?
63:56Cause I know you're saying buy and hold here.
63:59I would assume. Yeah. Yeah. I'll sit on that.
64:02I mean, to the, to the degree though, and maybe this is going to make me sound a little crazy since I just talked him up.
64:10Like I'm above selling nobody. Like if the right price comes a knock and I will send Jacoby lane away.
64:16I also have a luxury of owning maybe eight to 12 shares of Jacoby lane at this point, uh, with my dynasty degeneracy.
64:22So I think I have a little bit of a, of leeway there.
64:26All being said though, I think exactly what Chev was, was highlighting there.
64:30I mean, you do have a skillset at a Jacoby lane that is very different from what Zay flowers offers you as the primary pass catcher there.
64:38Now you've got Mark Andrews in the building, right?
64:41Can he return to the form of previous top six, Mark Andrews?
64:45Some would say yes. Some would say no. Some would say sit on in the middle ground there.
64:50That's probably where I'm at. Maybe a top eight to 12 finish here for Mark Andrews this year.
64:56All being said, I think Jacoby lane has the chance to cement himself as like the long-term wide receiver two in Baltimore here.
65:03And if that happens this year, and like you mentioned with the offensive coordinator changes, then you're going to be looking like
65:09you got a steal for Jacoby lane. If you brought him bottom for a second round pick today, I'm not in the
65:16range of sending a first or anything crazy. In fact, I still wouldn't even be sending relevant players like a Deandre Swift
65:22that might really push me over the line this year to try to win just for some rookie upside.
65:28I think those deals all exist down the line.
65:31Yeah. There's a, there's a Jaden Higgins for Jacoby lane straight up post injury, which it's Higgins for me, but I mean, it may be lane for you.
65:39I don't know. I think, I think take your pick dead.
65:43Even I think if I'm anywhere near contending this year, I'll take Jacoby lane just because I might actually get points out of him from week six onwards.
65:51But well, to your point, you might even be able to use him as, as capital to do something else with, if
65:58he's doing something, whereas you're not going to get any much capital out of Higgins.
66:02Yeah. I think I'll lean lane. You convinced me, push me over the line there, Casey, you'd have a hard bargain.
66:08My friend, I'm still going Higgins. I'll go. I mean, if I'm trying to, if I'm trying to capitalize and flip this
66:15asset, flip this house, I'm going to go Jacoby lane here just because I'm going to see him doing things.
66:21It's going to be top of mind. That being said, if you do, if you do have Jacoby lane and you're not
66:28going to compete this year, that's something that you should probably explore.
66:31Sending Jacoby lane, maybe attaching like a fourth round pick to it to go get Jaden Higgins.
66:36And then we profit in 2027. This is a good pivot to the last part of this.
66:42Jacoby lane for Mike Washington, straight up. Give me Jacoby lane there.
66:45Oh, wow. Um, wow. Okay. Okay. That was a yesterday.
66:48That was a yesterday trade. Not having, not having fun anymore, guys.
66:52August 23rd on that trade. Yeah. I mean, I, I don't know.
66:55I mean, all the, all the reports from Twitter say that Mike, you know, Mike Washington is a new RB one in, in Las Vegas.
67:03Didn't you hear guys? But I, I probably I'll go, I'll go Mike Washington there just because if this whole thing, if
67:10we're going to get off to a slower start for Ashton gentey and Mike Washington comes out of the gate and looks
67:16anything like he has in the preseason thus far with this rebuilt offensive line, you're going to have some really aggressive, really,
67:23really aggressive trades that you can probably pull off or use him as a tool inclusive, like included into a bigger deal
67:29to get something to tear up, to move around.
67:32He's going to be a utility piece. I think faster than Jacoby lane will Jacoby lanes.
67:37Long-term value is much more stable. And Joe, Kobe lane could be, like I said, with the uncertainty surrounding Rashad Bateman could
67:44be in the wide receiver to roll as soon as week one.
67:47So that's the, this is the dilemma here. I think that with the injury to Ashton gentey, we just, we just need
67:54a little bit of Mike Washington, just like shampoo a little bit goes a long way.
67:59He pops off a 60 yard run in week one.
68:02You're going to have some really aggressive offers in your inbox for Mike Washington.
68:06So it's already aggressive through these rookie drafts that are happening right now.
68:10And obviously, so we had some big news, but even before that big news, it was getting very aggressive for Washington, almost
68:16sort of to the point that I was making with Jacoby lane, like the splash plays are going to be splashy with Mike Washington.
68:24And that's kind of what has driven the price.
68:26Like we got some preseason runs. If there was, if those were 10 yard runs or whatever, then, you know, and he,
68:33but when he pops out of there and runs another 30, everyone's like, Ooh, who's that guy?
68:38Um, a la Damien Pierce. Right. Yeah. And who's that 25 year old out there running the ball.
68:44He's 23, but I know, I know that's part of the running joke there.
68:48Um, but so where do we, where do we settle in on Mike Washington?
68:52What is it? What is it? What is it?
68:55What is it? What is it? What is a good fair non drunk goggles on Mike Washington right now to close the show?
69:02Stan. Oh, if you're a national genti owner, just based off of the hype of yesterday, I could see you giving up
69:08a future second round pick to bring them in as your handcuff.
69:12I don't even think it's getting it done right now.
69:15Yeah, but that's probably not getting it done. And I think it looked like not to derail us back into my Washington fandom and Kubiak in the building.
69:23And I think the main question you need to answer with Mike Washington is how much is this going to be a Kenneth Walker, Zach Charbonnet situation?
69:31And am I going to copy and paste what worked for me when I ran a super bowl?
69:37Or is this a Ashton Gentry is way more talented.
69:40We have to actually utilize him as a workhorse back situation because all I need to see is Mike Washington get some
69:47Zach Charbonnet style usage in the first six weeks of this fantasy football season.
69:51And I think we're having an entirely different conversation on what Mike Washington jr is worth.
69:56I was, I was talking to Jason on the phone who is owner of the FFD and edits the videos.
70:02And if you're an OG, you know, Jason, but what I've, and we were, we were kind of joking around a little
70:08bit, but what this does kind of do your point is it opens up a can of worms of a split that
70:15can't go back in the bag that, that, that we, that I certainly like, I think Gentry is just that good.
70:21And I think this run out with Kubiak was going to be that good.
70:25And I thought we were going to get a split, but it wasn't going to be anything like we just saw, but
70:32like for this season, at least, and then have questions coming into next season, this just opened up a whole can of
70:39worms of if Mike Washington comes out and looks explosive and really good, and they're trying to ease Gentry back in, this
70:45could be something that we battle that I certainly just was like, ah, we're going to be just fine.
70:51Gentry's going to do his damn thing. It was so bad last year and he was still like RB 11.
70:57He's a stud, but this does, I think could potentially put a wrinkle in how that split goes.
71:02Okay. Where this we're with healthy Ashton Gentry. If we didn't get to see, we didn't get to see Mike Washington do his thing.
71:10Like he has been in the preseason. This is probably LaDainian Tomlinson, just shelving Darren Sproles and Michael Turner back in the day.
71:17Now, now you've got to start to have a little bit more aggressive visions to where this is like Mike Washington could cut into the work.
71:24Allah Thomas Jones. For those of you who are my age or in that were in high school in the early two
71:31thousands, you remember the late 2010, the early 2010s where Jamal Charles was famously capped putting up 1500 yards from scrimmage seasons,
71:38but only scoring like six touchdowns because Thomas Jones was getting in the way.
71:42And he, he, he's basically that generation Zach Charbonnet.
71:45So I think that that's probably where this is headed.
71:48I think that you're going to have, I mean, Mike Washington, four, three, three speed Buffalo's all time, longest single, single rush,
71:54the longest Russian in Buffalo program history also belongs to Mike Washington.
71:58So you have this guy with an incredibly athletic skillset.
72:01You have Ashton Gentry, who is all damn near a singularity of a talent.
72:05They're going to be a, as potent of a one, two punch as we could possibly imagine.
72:10That's where I think it goes. I think Mike Washington is really good at football.
72:15I think that Ashton Gentry is, is transcendent as a running back in terms of his contact balance, his ability to hit
72:21home runs, his ability to catch passes out of the backfield.
72:25And I think Mike Washington is a step down from that, but also he's going to be able to hit home.
72:31Think of a young Latavius Murray. It's kind of what he puts you like where he was hitting the, hitting the LT and scoring 90 yard touchdown runs.
72:39Like that's what you could get from Mike Washington, which is a really good football player.
72:44And it's going to be really hard to keep that guy off the field because no running back outside of Christian McCaffrey plays 90% of the snaps.
72:52Right. Well, that's, this was kind of my thought going into it was like, Hey, we're going to, we're going to see
72:59like a 70, 30, maybe even 65, 35 kind of situation with them.
73:03And there else, there is a scenario where Mike Washington comes out and it's, it just falls on his face a little bit.
73:10And we're like, all right, we're good. But I don't know.
73:13It seems like there is a little bit of sliver that this could put a wrinkle in things.
73:19Stan, I'll give you final word on this while we get out of here.
73:23Yeah, no, I don't have too much more to add on the Washington thing.
73:27I think premium handcuffs are worth the buy in the right circumstances.
73:31And depending on your league format, I mean, as we get deeper down the format totem pole to start 10, start 11, start 12s.
73:38Now you're making a really good case to actually start spending some, some draft capital on, on Mike Washington here.
73:44That all being said, I probably am not spending too much more from just a neutral third party, non-Ashton Jente owner here,
73:51maybe a Trey Harris, you know, someone in that kind of range.
73:54I'd be, I'd be fine making the flip, but I'm not in the range yet of sending a Michael Wilson or, or,
74:01you know, anyone that I think has some serious dynasty upside for Mike Washington jr.
74:05Here at the end of the day, we are still talking about at the upside, a 40% piece of a, of a
74:12pie on not the world's greatest team. Still a lot of questions to answer on the Raiders here.
74:17I like Kubiak as much as the next guy, this man's wearing a ring, but you know, at the same time, I'm
74:24not exactly ready to crown him King until I've watched these Raiders win a couple games.
74:29Sure. No, I like it. All right. Stan, where can we find everything that you do?
74:34Yeah, no, I appreciate you guys having me on, man.
74:37Long time fan of the FFD here. So this is awesome to chop it up with you guys.
74:42I'm over on YouTube, TikTok, Twitter, everywhere. You can find me as a dynasty price check.
74:47So you guys can, can go on and follow me along there.
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74:56So nice little live stream. You can come chop it in with us every day of the week.
75:02Well, on your morning commute, make sure you go check out Stan and the dynasty price check.
75:07Shev, anything before we get out of here? I mean, this was super fun.
75:11Glad to have you on Stan as I mean, this was, this is incredible process talk and just talking through actually how to move around and do things.
75:19Can't thank you enough. yeah. Looking forward to a couple more of these.
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75:38We just started that kind of last year and, and Shev and Jeremiah are going to be holding that down for most of the season.
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75:57Appreciate you guys. We'll catch you next week. Peace.
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