The FF Dynasty - ULTIMATE Guide To Dominate The Tight End Spot In Fantasy Football
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Aug 29, 2026
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Sat, August 29, 2026
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Dalton KincaidBrenton StrangeBrock BowersColston LovelandDallas GoedertDalton SchultzEli RaridonGeorge KittleHarold FanninHunter HenryIsaiah LikelyJake FergusonJuwan JohnsonKyle Pitts
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Brenton Strange
PositiveBreakout7:07
Brenton Strange is a high-ceiling target in the TE 17-20 range, ranking 8th in yards per route run (1.81) and 10th in first downs per route run. He showed promise with 10 red zone targets in his final six games, positioning him as a potential middling TE1.
Insight pageBrock Bowers
PositiveProjection37:46
Brock Bowers is considered the safest elite tight end option, expected to be the primary target in his offense. While Tyler Warren may challenge him, Bowers remains the consensus top-tier choice for reliability.
Insight pageColston Loveland
NegativeValue31:30
Colston Loveland is highly regarded but currently ranked behind Tucker Kraft by the analysts due to the proven production floor Kraft has already established. He remains a top-tier tight end prospect.
Insight pageDallas Goedert
NegativeProjection18:42
Dallas Goedert is viewed as a value, but his fantasy production is heavily tied to touchdown variance, which spiked to 11 last year. While he remains a safe option, his historical touchdown output is typically lower, making him a less certain bet for repeat performance.
Insight pageDalton Kincaid
PositiveBreakout22:08
Dalton Kincaid is positioned as the Bills' primary mismatch and a potential top-target leader in the offense. With Joe Brady returning as coordinator and a history of tight end usage under Pete Carmichael, Kincaid has a clear path to a top-five finish if he remains healthy.
Insight pagePositiveUsage35:00
Dalton Kincaid is a high-efficiency target who led all tight ends in yards per route run (over 3.0) while managing a PCL injury. He is expected to be the Bills' primary mismatch weapon, with expectations for a full-time route share in the upcoming season.
Insight pageDalton Schultz
PositiveUsage11:47
Dalton Schultz is preferred over Jake Ferguson as a safer, high-floor option because he serves as a primary target (number two in the offense) for C.J. Stroud. He remains a consistent safety blanket in the Texans' passing attack.
Insight pageEli Raridon
NegativeDepth Chart3:39
Eli Raradon is viewed as a complete tight end with an athletic profile who represents the future of the position for the New England Patriots, though he is currently behind Hunter Henry on the depth chart.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
PositiveValue25:11
George Kittle is a preferred target over Travis Kelce due to his discount following an Achilles injury and his unique ability to produce 1,000-yard seasons on fewer than 100 targets. He is considered a Hall of Fame-caliber player who provides flex-worthy value.
Insight pageHarold Fannin
PositiveSleeper26:56
Harold Fannin Jr. has immense ceiling potential, but owners should look to buy low early in the season if he struggles with Deshaun Watson at quarterback. A transition to Shador Sanders later in the year could unlock his full production.
Insight pageHunter Henry
PositiveValue2:36
Hunter Henry is considered the safest option in the TE 17-20 range, coming off a TE9 PPR finish with 84 targets and 7 touchdowns. Despite the drafting of Eli Raradon, Henry remains a reliable veteran in a stable offensive environment with Drake Maye, making him potentially mispriced at his current ADP.
Insight pageIsaiah Likely
NegativeProjection18:48
Isaiah Likely has a clear runway for a breakout, but there are concerns regarding his touchdown share in an offense that features high-end weapons like Malik Nabers and Malachi Fields.
Insight pageJake Ferguson
PositiveRole11:47
Jake Ferguson is a high-upside play who would become a weekly top-6 tight end if CeeDee Lamb or George Pickens were to miss time. He commanded 102 targets last year and remains a key part of the Cowboys' high-volume passing offense.
Insight pageJuwan Johnson
PositiveBreakout18:42
Juwan Johnson is a preferred target in the TE 12-14 range due to his role as the clear number two option in the Saints' offense while Jordan Tyson is sidelined. He is expected to see career-high volume and red zone opportunities.
Insight pageKyle Pitts
NegativeProjection26:16
Kyle Pitts remains a wildcard; while he has shown flashes of production, his connection with Michael Penix has been inconsistent. His fantasy value is often tied to specific matchups, notably against the Buccaneers.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveProjection8:44
Parker Washington is viewed as a high-upside player with a bullish outlook, ranked around 36-37 at the turn, though there is some industry disagreement regarding his ceiling compared to teammates like Brenton Strange.
Insight pageSam LaPorta
PositiveValue26:42
Sam LaPorta offers a superior combination of safety and ceiling compared to other tight ends in his range. Despite a target dip last year, he is expected to dominate red-zone targets behind Amon-Ra St. Brown.
Insight pageTravis Kelce
PositiveProjection25:16
Travis Kelce is a Hall of Fame talent who could easily return to top-5 or top-3 tight end status if his touchdown output regresses positively. Despite his age, he remains a high-volume target who can still deliver elite fantasy production.
Insight pageTucker Kraft
PositiveBreakout31:32
Tucker Kraft is a high-upside target who demonstrated elite yards-after-catch ability last season. Now fully healthy and off the PUP list, he is expected to be a key difference-maker in the Packers' 12-personnel heavy offense.
Insight pageTyler Warren
PositiveBreakout35:46
Tyler Warren is a major breakout candidate with a path to a 25-27% target share due to the Colts' current receiver depth chart. The analysts predict he could challenge Brock Bowers for top-tier production.
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1:06I am the one that they call Chef GPT and to my right is my illustrious co-host, the one that they call
1:13Coach, otherwise known as Jeremiah, a popular name in the 2026 and 2027 draft streets.
1:18Coach, we're here today to talk about some tight ends.
1:21But before we get into that, how are you doing today?
1:25I'm real happy. It sounds like we're getting a better relief news about Ashen Chanty.
1:30So prayer circles out there, the prayer circles are working.
1:33And now there's prayer circles for Travion Henderson. Can we just get to the season?
1:38And part of getting to the season, Chef, is these tight ends, the tightest of ends that we are interested in in redraft.
1:4620 all the way down to one. Let's start off at the top in our consensus ranks, Chef.
1:52Tight end 20 through 17. Mark Andrews, Brenton Strange, Chig Okonkwo, Hunter Henry.
1:56Who stands out for you in that patch? The safest of this whole bunch is probably going to be probably going to be Hunter Henry.
2:0484 targets last year, finishes a tight end nine in PPR and I believe the tight end seven and half PPR.
2:11So to me, it's just it's just a bet that he's going to it's just a bet that he's going to continue down this path.
2:19And, you know, they drafted Eli Raradon in the in the third round, I believe.
2:24And he is a complete tight end. He does have the athletic profile.
2:28He is probably the future at the position to be be totally honest with you.
2:33But on the same time, on the same side, Hunter Henry.
2:37Look, it's just old, reliable seven touchdowns last year.
2:40Drake May took a step forward. Hunter Henry's production took a step forward.
2:4460 catches for 768 yards, seven touchdowns. I expect the touchdowns number to probably stay the same or potentially go up with the addition of A.J.
2:53Brown and Romeo Dobbs. This is just going to be kind of a forgotten man that you look up.
2:59And for years, we talked about Hunter Henry giving given us those tremendous spike weeks and then just disappearing into the ether.
3:06Now we have a stable offensive environment where he could just maybe consistently give us those tight end one performances.
3:13So he might actually be mispriced at our tight end 17 ADP.
3:17What do you think about that? Yeah, I like the logic there, too.
3:21And we had talked pre NFL draft about, hey, can we get a Justin Jolie over there?
3:27It ends up being somebody like Eli Raradon. But the play remained.
3:31Get somebody who can be under the tutelage of Hunter Henry, develop, gain another weapon for the New England Patriots and Drake May.
3:38And of course, the NFL theme is adding to the tight end rooms.
3:4312 and 13 personnel, all the rage. We've seen the Rams out of 13 personnel last year.
3:4820 touchdowns, zero interceptions from Matthew Stafford. So the trend is your friend in the NFL, especially if some of the better coaching staffs are utilizing that.
3:57Some of the better offenses are doing that. It's just rapid fire around the NFL.
4:02So I like your play there with Hunter Henry.
4:05The dopamine hit from clicking him isn't quite there because you don't think you're getting maybe a spike week player a la
4:12somebody Bowers, Loveland, Pitts, any kind of name where you think, oh, this guy is going to be in the top five,
4:20in the top three, possibly the tight end one overall.
4:23You don't get that quite with somebody like a Hunter Henry.
4:27The guy who stands out for me, though, Shev, in that clump that we just mentioned is Bretton Strange.
4:33Strangely enough, I have him as tight end 12.
4:36For me, yards per route run, he was 8th, 1.81.
4:39In 6th in yards per target last year at 9.
4:42Yards per reception, 9th was Bretton Strange at 11.7.
4:45In first downs per route run, 10th at .09.
4:48So those aren't necessarily elite stats, but they put him in that threshold of maybe he can be a middling tight end one in the NFL next year.
4:58And down the stretch, the last six games he had, Bretton Strange, 10 red zone targets.
5:03I love that stat. And for me, those are little stats that pop up that remind me of a lesser grade, Colson Loveland, a lesser grade, Tucker Craft.
5:12So when we talk about ceiling plays in that clump, who could get up there between Hunter Henry and Bretton Strange?
5:19For me, it's going to be Bretton Strange. What do you make of that?
5:24Oh, yeah. I disagree with everything you just said because I'm Team Parker Washington.
5:28But I do see the path to what you're saying.
5:32I just choose not to walk that path. I do agree.
5:35I do think, I mean, from a dynasty, I was during the season last year, I was all over that.
5:42I was, hey, let's go buy some Bretton Strange.
5:45He's a plus athlete. Now he's been extended. So we're now walking down a path where he's a part of the team's future plans.
5:53They did draft Nate Borkucher, or however you say that, and Tanner Kozial in the seventh round.
5:58But they extended him, and he's 26 years old.
6:01He's just entering his grown man body as a tight end.
6:05So there's a path that you're walking down there that I like.
6:09I don't like it for redraft, though, if that makes sense.
6:12The one part that I will say, and we've talked about this in prior conversations, Shev, is how many times we've had
6:20takes, and we've been directionally correct, but we're just kind of off just a little bit.
6:25So my contention is, if the entire, and God knows this happens every year, Shev, the fantasy football industry, and that can
6:32be us collective, we're wrong about things every year.
6:35And it's like, oh, what did we get wrong as a fantasy unit?
6:39Well, Parker Washington ceiling could end up being one of those.
6:43I have him right around 36, 37 at that turn pick.
6:47So I have Parker Washington bullish very high as well.
6:50So if he doesn't hit Parker Washington, I'm going to be part of the wrong crowd.
6:55In the event that there is some wrongness there, to me, I think the beneficiary would be somebody like a Brenton Strange.
7:03Now, speaking of tears, tears for fears, tight end 16 and 15.
7:07Keep it in Texas. Dalton Schultz, Jake Ferguson, tight end 15 is Ferguson, and Schultz is 16.
7:12Last year, Ferguson, 102 targets was seventh in the NFL for tight ends for targets.
7:17Dalton Schultz, 106. He was number six. Dalton Schultz had one less target than Harold Fannin Jr.
7:23last year, and he had one more game played.
7:26So Fannin would clear. He still clears. But you just see there's just easy targets, gettable, attainable targets.
7:32Now, Shev, Jaden Higgins, hurt, torn ACL. We have the Keyshawn Butte trade.
7:36But I would still say ladder at the top, top two targets, which is something you want for a tight end.
7:43Nico Collins, it's setting up for Dalton Schultz to be the number two target there.
7:48And then the Cowboys, who could throw 550 to 600 times.
7:51Jake Ferguson abounds. Where we've talked about Lamb and Pickens, how high they can be.
7:56What do you make of, if you're on the clock, Shev, who do you prefer with Schultz or Ferguson who may get peppered with targets this year?
8:05Right now, it's got to be Dalton Schultz because George Pickens and CeeD Lamb are healthy.
8:11If one of those guys goes out, then Jake Ferguson immediately becomes a weekly top six, top five, top six tight end.
8:18And just because his target volume stabilizes. I mean, last year he had 82 catches.
8:23He's not going to do much after the catch.
8:26But I mean, we're two seasons removed. Well, the addition of George Pickens removed from him leading basically the NFL amongst all
8:33tight ends in red zone targets or end zone targets.
8:36So there's a role here. They've paid him. He's a part of the plan.
8:41He's Dak Prescott's safety blanket. But when you have such nuclear weapons at the wide receiver position, it's really hard to create
8:48a path for Dalton Schultz or excuse me, for Jake Ferguson to command those targets.
8:53So Dalton Schultz, for me, the number two targets in the offense right now that the Patriots, I mean, the Patriots traded
9:00Kayshaun Butte to the Houston Texans today as we're recording this.
9:04So that we'll see how that negative if that negatively impacts Dalton Schultz.
9:08But it just seems like he's the safety blanket, the check down guy, the easy button that CJ Stroud sometimes finds.
9:15And it's clearly a part in the design of the offense.
9:19So I'd have to go Dalton Schultz here just because for the safety, the upside swing is betting on Jake Ferguson to
9:26be the beneficiary of one of the stud wide receivers missing time.
9:30Yeah, it's funny enough when it's two primary targets and Schultz is one of them with the Texans versus Ferguson being the
9:37third target pecking order in the Cowboys offense. It's almost even where, OK, you give one edge to somebody like Schultz, but it's very close.
9:46And then it would get overtaken by Ferguson in the event as to what you spoke to if Lamb were to miss time or Pickens miss time.
9:54Right now, respectively, I have Schultz 15, Ferguson 16.
9:57When I think of ceiling, Ferguson's a path to play.
10:01When I think of more shorty, it's going to be like somebody of a Dalton Schultz.
10:06So fun little exercise there when you're on the clock.
10:09If you've run through the gamut of the elite tight ends, you can surely do worse than Jake Ferguson and Dalton Schultz.
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11:14Terms and more at AppleCard.com. Now let's go over to some people who have gained plenty of steam and we're not talking about Cleveland.
11:22Jawan Johnson, tight end 14. Dallas Goddard, tight end 13.
11:25All the way to Isaiah Likely, tight end 12.
11:28We have a new team for Likely and he follows Jimothy, Jonathan, Harbaugh.
11:32Dallas Goddard ran hot last year on touchdowns. Gets continuity with Jalen Hurts.
11:36It sounds like Eli Stowers is struggling. But then Jawan Johnson, you have, I think, Osterdell just picked up a hamstring injury.
11:44Then you have Jordan Tyson, who's going to be on the men for possibly the first month, maybe the first half of the NFL season.
11:52Shev, who stands out the most for you to really pop?
11:56Who has ceiling that you want from Likely 12, Goddard 13, and Jawan Johnson, who do you have at 14?
12:02It's Jawan Johnson for me. I've been a Jawan Johnson guy just since randomly.
12:07I just was like, man, who is this? Oh, that's what happened to that receiver from Oregon net.
12:13And Jameis Winston randomly threw him two touchdowns in a game early in his Saints career, in his Saints tenure.
12:19And so now him finally getting the volume, him not having to deal with him, not having to deal with Taysom Hill
12:27just doing all the weird gadgety stuff. We get a career high in targets.
12:31We get a career high in receptions, a career high in yards.
12:35And we only get three touchdowns. We only get three touchdowns.
12:39That's that's the rub. But if we're talking six, seven, eight touchdowns, who are we going to target in the red zone
12:46more often with no Jordan Tyson, with with with Alvin Kamara on the shelf?
12:51Maybe it's maybe maybe you target Travis H. Chan a little bit more, but I would be willing to bet that this
12:58is the number two guy in the offense. So for me, it's going to be Jawan Johnson out of this out of
13:05this cohort that we just discussed of the Dallas Goddards and the Isaiah Likelies.
13:10But I am I am excited about both of those guys because there's clear runways for true breakout ceiling.
13:16But Jawan Johnson's a little bit safer and we we can comfortably say that he's going to be the number two in
13:23that offense until Jordan Tyson comes back. He's out for at least two months, as they said.
13:29I like what you said about that. And to just dive further into because you covered Jawan Johnson very well.
13:35The one issue I have with Dallas Goddard and people are like, oh, my God, this guy is such a great value.
13:43Here's my problem. Here's his touchdown total from 2018 to 2024.
13:46Dallas Goddard four, five, three, four, three, three, two.
13:49Then last year hits 11 touchdowns, 11 touchdowns. Touchdown output helps tight end so much.
13:54And we'll talk about that with Travis Kelsey in a bit.
13:58Little teaser there. But Dallas Goddard, I know the Eagles.
14:01I like the way they utilize that shovel pass last year and in and tight like, hey, NFL, don't vote against the tush push.
14:09We'll do something different just for a little bit.
14:12And they would give a couple touchdowns in tight to Dallas Goddard.
14:16Now, we've seen that a little bit with Travis Kelsey, somewhat of a copycat league.
14:21So there's some possible safety in somebody like Dallas Goddard.
14:24But back to our conversation about upside safety, I would like that click on somebody like Jawan Johnson.
14:30And I'd like to buy into Isaiah Likely. My problem is, I've talked about it all offseason, 20 to 20.
14:37It's going to be difficult to get there to the red zone, to the green zone.
14:42But the Giants should not be stoppable. When you think of the RPO with Jackson Dart, Cam Scadabo, throwing the ball up to Malik Neighbors and Malachi Fields.
14:51And then across the middle, a combination of any of Isaiah Likely or Theo Johnson.
14:56I don't know how you stop that. But the problem is, I don't think there's going to be enough touchdown share to go around for Isaiah Likely.
15:05So I like where your head's at on Jawan Johnson.
15:09Let's shift over, Shev. Two old faithful tight ends.
15:11Tight end 11 in our consensus gathered rankings. George Kittle, Travis Kelsey, tight end 10.
15:16Who do you got and who do you love?
15:19Who do you love? Shout out to YG. I would, we talk about ceiling versus, ceiling versus safety.
15:25It's old busted. It's Travis Kelsey going into his age 37 season.
15:29And George Kittle coming off an Achilles, who's just activated off the pup.
15:34And I think that I'm going to, I'm going to go back to the well and I'm going to go, I'm going to go with George Kittle.
15:42George Kittle was almost a bring home the bacon guy for me last year.
15:47I, I, at the last minute, I was like, nah, we're going, it's in my heart.
15:52Tucker Craft is in my heart. And that's what I'm going to go with.
15:57So freight train took it, but I believe that there's going to be a, a, just a free reign, a free roam
16:04for George Kittle to run and roam free over the, over the middle of the field.
16:10If we can keep some of those 49ers receivers healthy, if the substation is just not out there claiming soft tissue on
16:17every single pass catcher for the 49ers. Then I think George Kittle can operate with some autonomy.
16:22He's the only tight end ever to have two 1000 yard seasons or one 1000 yard season without eclipsing 100 targets.
16:29So the, the upside to me is just tantalizing.
16:32I mean, this is a guy that we were taking at tight end three to tight end five last year.
16:39Just the Achilles has given us a discount. And I mean, I don't know if he has Wolverine healing powers, but I
16:46am betting on George Kittle to definitely return on value, especially if you, if where you're able to get him.
16:53If you take a tight end earlier, like say you take a guy, like a, you take a guy like a, uh,
17:00uh, in Isaiah likely a little bit earlier, and then you come back in the late rounds, you punt it tight end, you take George Kittle.
17:09This is a bill that I really liked because you get to, if it comes to fruition, you've got two studs that
17:16I think could put up flex worthy points, like greater than 12 points a game or 13 points a game in PPR.
17:23So that's flex worthy anytime. So yeah, it's going to be George Kittle for me.
17:28George Kittle perpetually lives anywhere from tight end two to tight end six fancy points per game.
17:34He's got like seven or eight seasons just littered out there where George Kittle is always up in the highest end of fancy points per game.
17:42Just a matter of Shev, is he on the field?
17:46And as you alluded to and spoke so well about, Hey, that substation, can we avoid it a little bit?
17:52Can there be some like reverse, some canceling out?
17:55You remember in math, it'd be like two negatives multiplied, make a positive.
17:59Can we get something there for the 49ers on that injury track for the Travis Kelsey angle?
18:05We talked pre-show 117 fancy points last year. I contend that with five touchdowns last year, Travis Kelsey, 108 targets ranked fourth.
18:12If you just double the touchdown output, that's 30 more points.
18:16That would have put him above Kyle Pitts who scored 122 points and would be second only to Trey McBride, who scored near 190 fancy points last year.
18:25So just think about that when you're, you're doing your tabulating and your thought process.
18:30We have Kelsey here ranked 10th, you and I both lockstep, but there's more to be had where he could be easily
18:37a top five tight end this year. Top three.
18:40And to what I just spoke to, he was just missing from that touchdown output, how it does benefit.
18:47And we could say the same credit to every other tight end, granted.
18:51But with Travis Kelsey, we've seen it before Eric Bannami comes back.
18:55I just have some optimism that we can get one more high-end season and it can be a little bit of a scam because, yeah, you're drawing touchdowns.
19:04But part of that is still skill that we can't take away entirely from a Hall of Famer.
19:10And George Kittle, do you think he's a Hall of Famer too, Chef?
19:14It's funny. I was having this conversation at work with someone and I was like, you have to, you got to be serious with yourself about this.
19:23He's one of the best blocking tight ends. He's been the best blocking tight end since Gronk retired.
19:29And he's, I think he's the single season record holder for yards by a tight end in a season.
19:35In addition to the things that I said earlier about him being the only tight end to eclipse a thousand yards on less than a hundred targets.
19:44How could you keep him out of the Hall of Fame?
19:48Like, I don't feel like, I feel like he's the mascot for the tight end position and he's not this big brawny burly guy.
19:56It's just, I mean, he's about 245 pounds and he is just a football savant that understands angles and willing to just
20:03be really, really physical and be willing to knock your face off any single time, any single time that he makes contact with somebody in the run game.
20:12So you have this unicorn pass catching utility combined with the ability to change and change the math in the run game.
20:20So yeah, I think Travis, excuse me. I know Travis Kelsey is a bona fide first battle Hall of Famer, but I
20:27think George Kittle is in that same, in that same pantheon just for what he's able to do as a complete tight end.
20:34Travis Kelce is a tight end Hall of Famer and George Kittle.
20:38We think he's a tight end Hall of Fame tight end.
20:42The only thing I would just wonder, maybe if there was a little bit more shine from a victory of a Super Bowl.
20:50It's funny how that works out for some players where they're more in the spotlight and they're thought in that forefront.
20:57So two Hall of Famers, Kelsey Kittle. Book it, mark it down.
21:00Let's go to Dalton Kincaid next. He's the tight end nine in our ranks.
21:05Shev, I know you've talked highly of him. So I'm going to give you the floor.
21:10I got a lot of stats in here, but you got a lot of good.
21:15Every time you talk about Dalton Kincaid, it makes me feel better about the shares I have in Dynasty.
21:22It makes me feel better about clicking him in best ball.
21:25And now in redraft, tell us why we should be clicking Dalton Kincaid.
21:30So we're the team wants him to be a large part of what they're doing.
21:34I mean, 44% route participation as he was managing the PCL.
21:38And all he did was manage to be the only tight end to go over three yards per route run.
21:4527% targets per route run. That's outstanding. And on top of that, I mean, we're looking at the yards per target being tops in the league.
21:53The yards after the catch being sixth in the league amongst tight ends.
21:58You know, it's he was managing this injury and still still going out there and performing at a high level.
22:04So all we need is just the full time route share now.
22:08That's all that we're missing. We've seen the efficiency.
22:11We've seen what it looks like with the offense functioning using him.
22:15They add DJ more to give them another element.
22:18Dalton Kincaid is going to be their de facto, their de facto mismatch.
22:22What they hoped Keon Coleman could do for the offense.
22:26That's exactly what you're going to get from Dalton Kincaid.
22:29While you have DJ more and Khalil Shakir, DJ more winning in various methods, Khalil Shakir generating a just an absurd amount of yak.
22:37But you have you now have a complete room because you added a real adult and DJ more who I think is
22:44going to have a great season also. But we have the path to him being the second the second leading target getter
22:51or possibly potentially maybe the number one in the offense.
22:55Remember, the GM that took him in the first round is still there.
22:59Joe Brady, who just utilized him in a tremendous manner, is still there in limited snaps.
23:04And on top of that, Pete Carmichael, the new offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills, was a part of those New Orleans
23:11Saints offenses with the Jimmy Grahams of the world.
23:14And then later on, they evolve and they have they they utilize Taysom Hill in that manner.
23:20And we like he was the offensive coordinator when Jawan Johnson caught the seven touchdowns as a second year player.
23:27So the path here to me is clear. And I like making these types of bets because it's a good player and
23:34a good offense with great draft capital, who is the only thing that changed is that he just wasn't healthy.
23:40So if Dalton Kincaid stays healthy, I this is my guy this year.
23:45This is this is who I am planting my flag on.
23:48This is the bring home the bacon guy for me this year.
23:52Dalton Kincaid. It's just like that meme. It reminds me of the guy who's mining for diamonds and he turns around just at the last second before hitting.
24:02And I just think everything you're saying, it just reminds me of that.
24:06Like, hey, this is the year he'll be age 27.
24:09Dalton Kincaid this year. If he hits in a big way, like you say, top five and higher.
24:15We're talking about everyone's just this is a fortress tight end that you want for the rest in perpetuity.
24:21And hopefully you have him. So it's funny how on one side you don't see it.
24:27But on the other side, it's so vivid. And of course, hindsight bias 2020.
24:31But first in first down for route run yards per route run target premium number one in yards per target second and yards per reception.
24:40So a lot of ones and twos all across his name.
24:43But to your point, can he be healthy? Can he play the entirety of snaps?
24:48Can he get all the work in the tight end room and be a top target in this Bills offense?
24:55Really be what he was drafted for. It wouldn't be crazy that he's a couple of years into his career where, hey, tight ends.
25:03They age a little bit more like wine where it's a little slower, but when it hits right, it is awesome.
25:10So let's go to another tier. And this is kind of a good pack together that I like to discuss.
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26:17Harold Fannin Jr., 7. Sam Laporta, 6. I know you're in on Laporta this year, Big.
26:22But you are Harold Fannin Jr., a truther. So how do you equivocate these three in this range?
26:28It's just so much better of an environment that Sam Laporta has as opposed to the other two.
26:34The ceiling is the highest for Harold Fannin just because he's one of the nine tight ends since 2000.
26:40Well, Sam Laporta is too, ironically enough. But we had Harold Fannin go absolutely nuclear as, you know, in the most untenable environment known to mankind last year.
26:50I mean, this is with Dylan Gabriel. This is with Shador Sanders.
26:53This is with all these guys coming out and just attempting to play quarterback and looking like Brucie from the longest yard at different points.
27:02So the ceiling is for sure with Harold Fannin to me.
27:05But the safety and the combination of safety and ceiling for Sam Laporta is just too much for me to pass up.
27:13And that's not to say that Kyle Pitts can't come out and catch his six touchdowns.
27:18I mean, we're just moving up like the yodeler dude from The Price is Right.
27:23Oh, it's six touchdowns this year. So I like all of these.
27:27I like the prices that they're at. But it's just that I can somewhat predict that Laporta is going to be the
27:34number two target in terms of red zone utility.
27:37That's where even though he took a step back when Jameson Williams became a full-time player, I still think he's going to
27:44dominate the target share in the red zone behind Almond Rotton.
27:48It just so happens that Jameson Williams can score from anywhere.
27:52So that's why I lean Laporta. But it wouldn't surprise me in any way, shape, or form if Harold Fannin goes over
27:591,000 yards this year and is the number one target in that offense.
28:03It's wild because with Laporta, people forget he was tight end one his rookie season.
28:08And he had 120 targets, had 10 touchdowns. Of course, we've seen the touchdowns go 10-7-3.
28:13Granted, he played nine games last year. And then we've gone targets 120 down to 83.
28:19So even if you throw out last season where Laporta had 49 targets, it trended significantly down.
28:24So if we can get carved out back up in that 110 to 120, maybe even 130 target range, you know, we're not asking for anything crazy.
28:33It would be phenomenal for Sam Laporta. And then with Harold Fannin Jr., Shev, I kind of wish Shador Sanders would get run out for Fannin.
28:42I'm going to venture to guess that early season, if it's going to be Deshaun Watson, who was just named starter, I'm
28:49going to put a little theory out there that I think you're going to be able to buy low in season, because
28:56this is redraft, on Harold Fannin Jr. because you're not going to get peppered with targets like you did last year.
29:03And then you're going to end up getting Shador, who will show up at some point.
29:08Like there's, there ain't no way from week one through 18, you're going to get Deshaun Watson to start all those games.
29:16I just don't think that's going to happen. Shador would stand to get in there at some point.
29:22So I think you have a preemptive buy low in Harold Fannin Jr.
29:26You don't always want to do this, but why not just draft, let other people take Harold Fannin Jr.
29:32And if you believe it enough, that path, and you can kind of see it coming, let a couple weeks struggle and
29:39then go acquire, because you know Shador Sanders is going to be around.
29:44And then you've got injected life into your team with somebody like Harold Fannin Jr.
29:49So that's just like a little move that I would preemptively think about, which you don't always get to do in all formats.
29:56Some people have a tighter hold in something like Dynasty, where in redraft, they're like, hey, I've only got a couple weeks.
30:03I got to go win. So I like what you said about that.
30:08And then Kyle Pitts, I think he's going to hit with Michael Penix.
30:12What would you say to Michael Penix being the guaranteed starting quarterback?
30:16Would you be more inclined to click Pitts over Laporta or Fannin in that instance?
30:21No, it wasn't great with Kyle Pitts and Michael Penix last year.
30:25The Pitts to Penix connection just wasn't hitting the way that we wanted it to.
30:30Now, Penix understands and knows that Durag's not wrapped too tight to throw the ball to Drake London as much as humanly possible.
30:37But for some reason, it's just not been great for Kyle Pitts with Michael Penix, Captain Durag, at the helm.
30:44So maybe they get that figured out this year.
30:47Kevin Stefanski has been really good for tight ends.
30:50Again, he was the offensive coordinator for the play caller for the Browns last year with the Harold Fannin breakout.
30:57David Njoku got a career high in the pace targets per game under one Kevin Stefanski.
31:02So there is hope. It's just too much of a wildcard bet for me.
31:06And if you remember, the breakout game during the fantasy playoffs happened with Kirk Cousins at the helm, not Michael Penix, Captain Durag.
31:14You are correct, because I think it was what, like a 45 burger against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
31:20Yes. And Kyle Pitts and Ray Davis, their glitch is they're great at football.
31:25But the glitch is Ray Davis can only play well against the Jets.
31:29And then Kyle Pitts can only go off against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, it seems.
31:34If you look at the splits in the history, it's insane.
31:38It reminds me of that running back for the Eagles who always scored a touchdown against.
31:43Oh, yeah. Yeah. Boston Scott. Yes. That's like, hey, this is the only thing you could do.
31:48But it happens every damn time against that team.
31:51Yeah. It's the Boston Scott's. Yeah. If I had a dollar for every time that happened, I'd have like $6, which is
31:59weird because that's a weird thing to get $6 on.
32:02Oh, yeah. And then speaking of getting $6 and maybe more dollars, maybe like $69, Tucker Craft and Colson Loveland starting to get real, real nice.
32:10Tight end for Colson Loveland, Tucker Craft, tight end five.
32:14Shev, I have it. Loveland four, Kraft five. I feel like I'm putting respect on the cheese head.
32:20Now, look, I know you haven't been able to have license to talk about Tucker Craft, but this is your floor right now.
32:27You talk about some Tucker Craft. Oh, you want me?
32:31Tell me who you're in on. Is it? Can I go?
32:34Can I go? Yes. All right. All right. Okay.
32:37Okay. All right. So the Titan won in points per game before the injury last year comes back.
32:43They vacate targets from Romeo Dobbs and Samari Touré and they trade Dontavian Wicks.
32:48That's a martyr. I think it's a joke, by the way, guys.
32:52But they trade Dontavian Wicks to the Eagles. Him and his Megan Fox thumbs are out of there.
32:58Now they're going to be running out there with Matthew Golden.
33:01They're going to be using a ton of 12 personnel.
33:05They last year going into the offseason, my crumb, my breadcrumb of hope that I held on to was that Matt LaFleur
33:12realized that Tucker Craft is an ultimate difference maker for their team.
33:16And they featured him as such. And they didn't even feature him.
33:20This is on 5.3 targets a game. He was giving you Titan won over all numbers.
33:25He blew away the field in terms of yards after the catch per reception with double digit yards after the catch per reception.
33:3311 yards after the catch per reception. It's unreal.
33:36Now he's off the pup. He's fully practicing. We're going to get the best version of Tucker Craft while it's bag season, by the way.
33:44So I have Tucker Craft at Titan 4. I have Loveland at Titan 5.
33:48I've got it flip-flopped a little bit just because we know exactly how that offense is going to function.
33:55Now I know that there's going to be some gentlemen and ladies that probably get up in arms a little bit about
34:02this whole seeming hatred of Colston Loveland because of the fact that I don't have him Titan 3.
34:08But I've already seen the outcome happen with Tucker Craft.
34:11If for some reason this goes to hell in a handbasket and Colston Loveland doesn't return on the Titan 3 that everybody's
34:18so hell-bent on selecting him, then I can go grab Tucker Craft a few rounds later.
34:24He's my Titan 4. Colston Loveland's my Titan 5.
34:27You can go argue with the wall. This is how I have it.
34:31I'll accept no further questions at this time. The floor is yours, sir.
34:35Well, this is very much like the Spider-Man meme.
34:38All the stats that I was talking about, Brenton Strange, where I said, hey, he's a lighter, lesser version, stat-wise, of somebody like Loveland and Tucker Craft.
34:47So to me, for them to be 4 and 5 or flip-flop, 5 and 4, depending on how you want to flip
34:54them, I think it's all well within reason. We've talked about the granular element of when we get this high.
35:01Well, yeah, shifting Colston Loveland to 5, it'd be one thing if you were just, hey, Colston Loveland, you're a Titan 10.
35:08It'd be like that guy who was saying Colt Payton was better than Jalen Hurts.
35:13Like, no, not at all, man. We are not on that.
35:17So, yeah, you're not disrespectful by keeping them in an area in a park.
35:21But I think it's actually more disrespectful to the people who are chirping about Colston Loveland.
35:27It's more disrespectful to not think of Tucker Craft in this light.
35:31And I think people are having a short memory, Shev, but for the fact that he's been injured.
35:37And I think that's all about to change. Now, speaking of injury, for me, somebody who's going to benefit next year, and my call is my hot take.
35:46You know, hey, you've got to have a hot take.
35:49Bring home the bacon player. For me, it's Tyler Warren.
35:53And I'm going to say, because injury really hurt, riddled the Colts last year with Daniel Jones, and they just went downhill after week 10.
36:01We re-roll. Everything's going to be right again in this universe for the Colts.
36:05And it's setting up with no Alec Pierce to start the season.
36:09Tyler Warren is going to outscore Brock Bowers. Okay?
36:12I have Tyler Warren tied in three. Brock Bowers is one.
36:16I'm going to rank it correctly. But what I'm going to predict is Tyler Warren will be, he's going to outscore Brock Bowers.
36:24And if Bowers is the number one, well, maybe he'll be two.
36:27And then Warren will be number one. But you're getting my drift.
36:31It's going to be a top three, top two, 1A, 1B situation for Tyler Warren.
36:36We're going to see him hit in a big way this year.
36:40First 10 weeks last year, third in targets with 64.
36:44Third in receptions with 50. First in yards, 617.
36:47First in yak. All the stats are there that favor Tyler Warren's production.
36:51And then across the season, you can extrapolate. I don't see why he doesn't live in that one, two, and three territory where he's up amongst.
36:59If you want to put Colson Loveland up there, sure, fine, fair, well, and good.
37:04But Tyler Warren, I think, needs to be up there with McBride and Bowers.
37:09It's just kind of funny how when I say Tyler Warren, who people in consensus will have tight end for in Dynasty.
37:16And I'm like, hey, I think he's going to venture to outscore Brock Bowers.
37:21People are like, oh, well, I don't know about that.
37:24Which is fine. But I just don't see the gumption behind it where it's that crazy.
37:29So that's my hot take. I understand it's hot because Brock Bowers is a baller.
37:34I've got him in different places. This isn't a situation where I've got one more than the other.
37:40I'm excited about Brock Bowers. Please, Brock Bowers. Rookie Brock Bowers.
37:44Please come back to us. But, yeah, I'm fully excited on board.
37:48Tyler Warren. Floor is yours. What do you make of Tyler Warren?
37:52I mean, I have him as a tight end three as well.
37:56There's a path to him having a 25 to 27 percent target share that just rests in the fact that Josh Downs can't stay healthy.
38:04They they moved on from Michael Pittman for moved on from Michael Pittman.
38:08They moved on. You know, they traded Adonai Mitchell.
38:11And now there's a huge chasm of, hey, who's going to catch the football or this team?
38:17So that's where we land with Tyler Warren. I think that there's a safer, more succinct target floor for this.
38:24So, yeah, that's where that's where I land. I don't have any issues with this whatsoever.
38:29It is a little spicy that he's going to ask for outscore Brock Bowers.
38:33But I mean, that's the whole point, man. You got to call a shot.
38:38You got to call your shot somewhere. And if you can get them a little bit later, kind of what you're talking
38:45about with Kraft to Loveland, you can get some rounds difference.
38:49I think there's value to be had. And maybe you take Drake London.
38:53Maybe you take Malik Neighbors and then get Warren.
38:56Yeah. No, I mean, it's just from a roster construction perspective, it just makes too much sense to me.
39:03Now, Shev, this is easy, simple, nice. This season, do you want Brock Bowers or Trey McBride?
39:08They're one and two for just about everybody. But if you got to pick one, who are you going to pick?
39:15I'm going to pick Brock Bowers. That's, it's the safest thing to do.
39:19He cost seven touchdowns in 12 games. He's going to be the number one target in that offense without question.
39:26It's devoid of weapons outside of Ashton Gentey as pass catchers.
39:30You could bet on Malik Benson. You could bet on Jalen Naylor.
39:34I'm not doing that. I'm just going to go and secure Brock Bowers and call it a day.
39:39I like where your hat's at. I'm there with you on Brock Bowers because if Tyler Warren's not the tight end one
39:47overall, it's probably going to be Brock Bowers. And we saw what he could do as a rookie.
39:53And I see a little bit bearish because we talked about on one of our redraft shows.
39:58I think it was with the running back, Jeff.
40:01Jeremiah Love, Trey McBride in those top three rounds.
40:04Ain't nothing wrong, but something ain't right. Because with the Vegas point totals being top five lowest in the NFL, depending on where you shop and look.
40:13How does Love and McBride, do they both hit?
40:16And then you extrapolate that to ADP for fantasy value.
40:19I just think there's so much set up for somebody like Brock Bowers.
40:24So that's our show. Those are our top 20.
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