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Future 1st Podcast - Ep 50 - Dynasty Bestball Fundamentals

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1 hr 16 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Jul 7, 2026
Published
Tue, July 7, 2026
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Topics
A.J. BrownBijan RobinsonBrandon AiyukCeeDee LambChristian McCaffreyChristian WatsonDe'Von AchaneJacoby BrissettJameson WilliamsJeremy McNicholsJustin JeffersonMike EvansOlamide ZaccheausRyan Flournoy
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A.J. Brown

NegativeRole31:30

In best ball dynasty, AJ Brown exemplifies how boom-bust depth players gain value compared to redraft leagues. While in redraft these players typically only enter flex lineups during bye weeks (e.g., 'AJ Brown's on bye and I really need a starter'), in best ball they can enter lineups multiple times per season, making them significantly more valuable as depth pieces.

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Bijan Robinson

NegativeValue35:00

Bijan Robinson's value is diluted in best ball dynasty leagues compared to redraft leagues. Studs are harder to move because the market prioritizes depth over consolidation; acquiring him requires multiple assets—the opposite of best ball strategy—making him difficult to trade for or roster effectively. The source notes that 'the amount of assets you have to give up to get him is astronomical' in lineup leagues, and this dynamic carries over to best ball where depth is king.

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Brandon Aiyuk

PositiveRole5:25

Ayuk is on the 49ers reserve/left squad list and must sign to return; he cannot be traded. He is posting on social media about signing with the Washington Commanders, but that cannot happen until he is released. The source characterizes him as 'kind of out of his mind' according to people who know him. George Kittle has expressed skepticism about his situation. If Ayuk signs with the Commanders in September, his dynasty value is estimated at a late second-round pick at best, and the source would not buy even at that price. Key concerns: unknown current fitness level, time away from the field, and uncertainty about when he will play. His EPA metrics were strong when on the field in Kyle Shanahan's offense, but his value outside that system is questionable. Ayuk's production in Kyle Shanahan's 49ers offense may not translate to the Washington Commanders. Deebo Samuel moved to Washington and had a decent season but was not playing with a healthy offense. Ayuk and Samuel have different receiver skill sets, making the comparison imperfect, but the point stands that leaving the efficient 49ers system is a significant downside.

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CeeDee Lamb

NegativeRole24:00

CeeDee Lamb is cited as an example of an elite receiver in a regular dynasty league. The source uses him as a comparison point to explain how pairing a safe-floor player (like Wandale Robinson) with a high-variance spike player (like Jameson Williams or Christian Watson) in best ball is equivalent to rostering an elite receiver like Lamb in a traditional dynasty league. Used as example of injury scenario triggering waiver pickups in roster churn strategy; if CD gets an ankle injury, speaker recommends grabbing his backup (Florian Freiermuth) and throwing him in, then tossing him back when CD returns healthy, illustrating flexibility of churn strategy.

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Christian McCaffrey

PositiveRole55:55

Christian McCaffrey exemplifies a high-end RB with a clear backup handcuff strategy in best ball dynasty. The source is selective about rostering direct backups only when they know the backup will fill in and get the full workload if the starter goes down. With CMC, the backup is 'the guy when CMC goes down' and will deliver 'that same production or 80% or whatever it is for that couple of games,' making the handcuff valuable in best ball.

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Christian Watson

PositiveRole22:45

Christian Watson is a high-variance spike player in best ball strategy; the source likes to pair spike guys like Watson (who go off for 150 yards and two touchdowns) with stable-floor players to balance variance while capturing boom weeks.

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De'Von Achane

PositiveRole56:00

Devon Achane was drafted in the back of the second round in a 10-team best ball dynasty startup as part of a contending RB-heavy build. The speaker consolidated picks into rounds four through seven and went heavy into running backs early, leaning heavily into pass-catching RBs in a league that gives an extra half point per reception and first down bonuses. Achane exemplifies the stud RB archetype whose high-end production allows best ball dynasty teams to consolidate value at that position and allocate roster depth to other positions.

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Jacoby Brissett

NegativeValue40:00

Jacoby Brissett was included in a rebuild trade package (with Dallas Goedert and Jameson Williams) for a first-round pick and Malik Neighbors, illustrating how rebuilders can move depth pieces to contenders in best ball dynasty. This trade exemplifies the flexibility of shallow best ball leagues where rebuilders can consolidate assets and contenders can acquire multiple pieces.

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Jameson Williams

PositiveRole22:45

Jameson Williams is a high-variance spike player in best ball strategy; the source likes to pair spike guys like Williams (who go off for 150 yards and two touchdowns) with stable-floor players to balance variance while capturing boom weeks. In best ball dynasty, Williams is valued as a reliable boom-bust depth piece despite not being a traditional starter; the source counts him as reliably entering the lineup 7-8 times per season, making him valuable for stacking similar profiles to overlap spike weeks.

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Jeremy McNichols

PositiveSleeper61:49

High-volume waiver RB for roster churn strategy; speaker cites him as 'the running back on Washington last year that was getting tons of volume catches' and a perfect example of a player you can pick up, throw in for a couple of weeks, and then drop back when done, illustrating flexibility strategy for contending teams.

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Justin Jefferson

PositiveValue57:58

Justin Jefferson was acquired mid-season via trade of two first-round picks in a 10-team best ball dynasty startup; the source described it as 'an absolute steal' to address an aging roster and stop the landslide of zeros. The speaker had banked two extra firsts from trading back multiple times and was willing to spend two of them to get Jefferson, indicating strong conviction in his value as a solution to roster construction problems.

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Mike Evans

NegativeBust56:25

Drafted as an older, producing WR in the later early rounds of a 10-team best ball dynasty startup to balance heavy RB allocation; has since turned into a zero due to job loss and/or injury. Speaker now has 'five or six roster spots dedicated to zeros' because 'some of them lost jobs' and 'some of them are still injured,' representing a cautionary tale about over-indexing into one asset type and not accounting for age cliffs.

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Olamide Zaccheaus

PositiveSleeper61:08

Waiver-eligible player with clear snap and target production; preferred for roster churn strategy over developmental prospects. Speaker explicitly states 'I'd rather have somebody like Olamita Zaccheaus' because 'dude got snapped last year, dude got targets, right?' and can enter flex with easy production tracking, allowing flexibility to drop if production stops.

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Ryan Flournoy

PositiveRole32:00

Ryan Flournoy is a boom-bust depth piece that can be stacked with similar profiles (like Jameson Williams, Jordan Addison, and Alec Pierce) to overlap spike weeks and maintain consistent scoring opportunities across a best ball dynasty roster. The strategy of rostering multiple players with identical boom-bust profiles creates overlapping 'sign waves' of production.

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Terry McLaurin

NegativeBust56:25

Drafted as an older, producing WR in the later early rounds of a 10-team best ball dynasty startup to balance heavy RB allocation; has since turned into a zero due to job loss and/or injury. Speaker now has 'five or six roster spots dedicated to zeros' because 'some of them lost jobs' and 'some of them are still injured,' representing a cautionary tale about over-indexing into one asset type and not accounting for age cliffs.

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Ty Johnson

PositiveSleeper21:30

Ty Johnson, the backup running back for the Bills, is highlighted as a great best ball asset. He will get random touchdowns and catch a couple of balls, suddenly putting up 10 points in PPR, making him valuable in best ball leagues where you capture all bench production.

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Tyreek Hill

NegativeBust56:20

Drafted as an older, producing WR in the later early rounds of a 10-team best ball dynasty startup to balance heavy RB allocation; has since turned into a zero due to job loss and/or injury. Speaker now has 'five or six roster spots dedicated to zeros' because 'some of them lost jobs' and 'some of them are still injured,' representing a cautionary tale about over-indexing into one asset type and not accounting for age cliffs.

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Wan'Dale Robinson

PositiveRole23:30

Wandale Robinson is a safe-floor player in best ball strategy. He does not get crazy amounts of yardage but puts points on the board through catches, providing a reliable floor that pairs well with high-variance spike players like Jameson Williams and Christian Watson.

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Full transcript

Episode Transcript

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0:00Future's now open! Glad to have you man, you look good, you sound good.
0:05Tonight we're gonna talk about some Dynasty Bestball. You know it's the summertime, Bestball is all the rave right now, but Dynasty
0:13Bestball doesn't get a whole lot of love. So, Jose and I had the idea to turn July into Best Ballin'!
0:21We're gonna talk about Dynasty Bestball all of July to give it the attention it deserves because it is truly a great format.
0:29And John, just from chopping it up with you in Discord, I can tell man, you got a sharp mind for the Dynasty Bestball.
0:38So tell us a little bit about yourself man, who you are, how long you been playing Dynasty, how long you been
0:45doing Bestball Dynasty, give us a little taste of this.
0:49Yeah man, thanks. So I got my start on fantasy football like 15 something years ago, maybe a little bit more, 20 years ago.
0:58Probably way too long, but we don't need to talk about that.
1:02Been doing Dynasty for more like 6 years. Got a good mix of leagues.
1:07I basically split half and half between lineup and best ball.
1:11I like to get a good variety. None of my leagues have the same scoring format, roster, any of that stuff.
1:19So, like keeping it fresh. And yeah, started getting into data because I had questions and I wanted to figure out the answers.
1:27And so I started digging around. Got a nice little database.
1:31All the NFL players past decade or so started digging into it.
1:35That's awesome, man. Yeah, I appreciate all the data you've been putting down.
1:40We met in the OTC Discord and you were dropping all the sweet, sweet graphs that I love to see and the
1:48charts and so many cool things over there. Where can people find those, by the way?
1:54Yeah, I tend to drop them there. I'm also in the Superflex Super Show Discord, a couple others.
2:00And you can find me on Blue Sky. Just my name, John Leonard, Blue Sky.social, I think it is.
2:07Whatever Blue Sky does. Yeah, dropping data, charts, tables, all kinds of stuff.
2:12Hopefully it's actionable, right? That's the idea. Very actionable.
2:15Yeah, no, it's a lot of good data. And sometimes too much data can be a bad thing.
2:21But even if it doesn't come to be useful, like you said, you have a question, you set out to find an answer.
2:30And maybe that answer isn't clear, but you have a better understanding of it at the very least when you get to the end of it.
2:39So I tend to think too much data is never a bad thing.
2:44Sometimes there's a little bit too much noise in it all, but I like what you've been putting out there and it's been really great stuff.
2:53So I'll drop a link to your Blue Sky in the description here for the pod and for the video so people can get into that.
3:03But I'm glad to have you on, John. Let's talk about some Dynasty Best Ball.
3:08But first, we're going to take care of a few things here.
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3:50We have our Process First podcast coming out with new episodes every Saturday where we are breaking down a startup draft manager
3:57by manager going through each one of their processes.
4:01And that's been a lot of fun. We just had our boy, Keegan, come on.
4:06So he was the creator of the OTC. So you can go see his is the latest one to drop and he has some some good content there.
4:16So other than that, one other thing I wanted to shout out with the hype of the Dynasty Best Ball in July.
4:24At the end of July, we're going to run as many startups as we can fill.
4:30So if you guys want to get in to a Dynasty Best Ball startup, if we are sparking some joy talking about
4:38this for you, make sure to drop a comment in here or send us an email at futurefirstpod.com or gmail.com.
4:45And let us know that you want in and we will get you hooked up and plugged in to one of those startups.
4:53And last but not least, shout out to Fox who's been helping us with all their graphics.
5:00She's always killing it. Nailed that last thumbnail with Bucky Irving and the landmine.
5:05So good. Follow her on X at bfoxworth07. Other than that, John, before we get into the Dynasty Best Ball fundamentals here,
5:13we're going to take a little bit of a quick hit, man.
5:17You ready? Let's do it. Let's do it. All right.
5:21For tonight's quick hit, let's talk a little bit about Brandon Ayuk.
5:25He's been in the news quite a bit lately.
5:28I'm curious to know what you think of everything going down.
5:32I have a little bit going on in my head of what I think is happening.
5:38I'm just going to lead us off here. As a 49er fan, I know how they tend to handle things.
5:45And I feel like I have a pretty good sense of what Brandon Ayuk is doing.
5:51And I have a theory of what's going on here.
5:54I think Brandon Ayuk is being a little crazy, a little out there on the socials.
6:00I think he doesn't want to be traded. I think he wants to be released so that he can go sign with the commanders.
6:09Rather than drag his name through the mud and do some stuff that is illegal and frowned upon or whatever, he's just doing socially abnormal things.
6:18So that everyone's out here just kind of ragging on him being like, what's wrong with Ayuk?
6:24I don't think anything is going on with him.
6:28He knows the Niners aren't going to trade him or they want to trade him and they're not going to release him.
6:36They can't keep him. If they keep him past the September 1st date, they owe him $23 million in option bonuses.
6:43So he has to be off that roster by then unless they want to pay him that or they want to trade him.
6:51And if they trade him, whoever trades for him has to carry that roster option bonus through.
6:58So not only do you have to pay him $23 million, but then you probably have to sign him to a contract to stay on the team.
7:07So I don't think anybody's trading for him and that he's making sure of that.
7:13And then outside of that, I think he wants to play for the commanders.
7:18He's letting that be well-known. Shoot, man. He might even be practicing with Jaden Daniels.
7:23I don't think that's outside of the realm of possibilities.
7:27Already getting some reps in secret and some sort of indoor facility doing something.
7:32I don't know. I'm not going that far. I'm not going to get all crazy and put on my tinfoil hat here for you guys.
7:41But that's my perspective on it. And I feel like I have, you know, not necessarily an outsider's perspective as many people might think.
7:50But John, how are you breaking down this whole Brandon Ayuk situation?
7:54Are you in? Are you out? Are you buying?
7:57Are you selling? Where are you at with it?
8:00I'm definitely in the zero share, zero cares club on this one.
8:05So I do not have to worry about him too much.
8:09But, you know, I don't even know that they can trade him, right?
8:13He's on the reserve left squad list. He has to actually show up and sign something to return to the team.
8:21So I think he is just gone. And he's posting things on social, talking about signing with the commanders.
8:28That can't happen until he's released. He's throwing money in the closet.
8:32No idea what he's up to. Kittle's saying good luck with that.
8:36You know, the guy's kind of out of his mind, according to folks that know more than I do.
8:43So, yeah, not in the habit of buying headaches.
8:47So I think I'm going to just let him be.
8:50Just, you know, good luck, man. I tend to agree.
8:54I'm not definitely not buying. I don't really have any shares.
8:58I think I got rid of my last share last season, sold on the hope of him coming back from that injury.
9:06And yeah, man, it doesn't look good for the outlook for him.
9:10But let's say, because I'm curious, let's say he signs with the commanders in September, right?
9:16Let's say this happens early season, maybe even after the season starts, right?
9:21Where do you think he should be valued? In terms of dynasty value?
9:25I mean, we can equate it to picks. We can equate it to a player.
9:31You can approach this any way you want because I'm kind of throwing it at you here.
9:37But where do you think he should be going in terms of his value?
9:42Yeah, I mean, if he's on the field and in shape, and he's neither of those.
9:48But if he were, right, then we got to think that 27 class is coming up.
9:53That class is going to be stellar, right? There's a problem with that.
9:58Trying to equate him there. Maybe an early two at best.
10:02But realistically, I'm not touching that. But, you know, maybe a late two is where I would start to think about it being okay.
10:11But when was the last time he was on the field, right?
10:15Is he anywhere close to shape? You know, he can drive fast.
10:19Can he run fast? Nice. No, I tend to agree, right?
10:23And this all kind of came up because I had a trade offer come in to me.
10:29And it was Brandon Ayuk and the other piece.
10:33I can't remember exactly who it was, but they wanted Fryermuth.
10:37I think it was Brandon Ayuk and Caleb Johnson.
10:40And they wanted Fryermuth and another late round asset.
10:43And, oh, it was Jalen Naylor. They wanted Fryermuth and Jalen Naylor.
10:47And I'm a rebuilding team with Fryermuth and Jalen Naylor.
10:51No, sorry, back up. This was not Fryermuth. It was Njoku.
10:55I had Njoku and Naylor. And they wanted to give me Ayuk and Caleb Johnson.
11:00And I'm sitting here thinking, since I'm a rebuilder, as a value flip, which side of this trade has the better value flip?
11:09And that's what came up. It's like Brandon Ayuk is obviously the most volatile asset in that trade.
11:15And I was just curious, like, if he does sign with the commanders immediately, what could I get for him?
11:23Without seeing him play football, without anything, could I get a second for him?
11:28Because if I could get a second for him, then I feel like I could probably make back more than what I
11:36would be able to get for Naylor or Njoku in this kind of, I think it was a 0.75 Titan premium.
11:43So that's just what was going through my head.
11:46I just wanted to hash that out here on air because I hadn't had time to kind of vocalize all this.
11:54But you think a second is probably the best I could do.
11:58Yeah, I wouldn't go more than that. That guy's got too many problems off the field, on the field, don't know what's
12:06going on, don't know what shape he's in. I mean, I was looking at some data earlier on, you know, receivers in
12:14motion, all kinds of things like that, EPA effect.
12:17And, you know, he's up in the top right.
12:21He's looking really good when he was on the field.
12:24He's on the field. I don't know when he's going to be on the field.
12:30So, you know, I'm not buying it at that, even at the second, not selling it.
12:35I just don't want it. You know, and too, when you mentioned, you know, that EPA playing for Kyle Shanahan, it's an
12:43extremely efficient offense and, you know, it doesn't really matter who the person is that's getting targeted.
12:49It's just more so that they're getting targeted. You know, I think, especially in Kyle Shanahan's offense, we saw with Jake Tongass
12:57last year stepping up and we've seen it from time and time again.
13:02And just, I mean, even Blinken on the wide receiver three that had a pretty big season with them last year, but he stepped up.
13:11No, it wasn't Jennings. It was the guy who played for the Patriots for a long time, came over.
13:18Kendrick Bourne. Kendrick Bourne. Thank you. Kendrick Bourne had, had a couple of big, you know, big, big games with him.
13:26And it's just, that's what the Niners offense does is they set the plays up through play action.
13:32And then they take the big chunk plays because they know they can get them.
13:37As soon as Brock Purdy gets the look that he wants, he knows who's going to be open.
13:44He makes the throw. So that's another thing that we need to think about here is how good is Brandon Ayuk going
13:52to be outside of this 49ers offense? We saw Debo go over to this Washington commanders offense.
13:58If that's where Brandon Ayoub ends up, obviously Debo and Brandon Ayoub are a little bit different play style of a receiver.
14:06And Debo had a decent season by the all stretch of things, but he wasn't exactly playing with a healthy offense either.
14:14So it's interesting. It's interesting. I tend to agree with you.
14:18I'm just out in general. And I think we've, we've said enough about Brandon Ayoub.
14:23He's stolen enough minutes of our airtime here. What do you say?
14:28Let's take a break here and hear from the podfather.
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17:43Dynasty Best Ball Fundamentals. Let's get into it, John.
17:46I think for anybody out there who's never played a Best Ball Dynasty before, maybe they don't even know what it is.
17:54And I think it'd be good just to kind of lay down the very basics of what it is here and what
18:02they can expect to be different from a normal Dynasty League.
18:06So do you want to tackle this first question here?
18:10You know, what is a Best Ball Dynasty at its very core?
18:14Yeah, thanks. So, I mean, when it comes down to it, it's still your same basic roster, same bench, things like that.
18:22But we're taking lineup out of the equation. No more sitting there figuring out who to start, who to sit, any of that.
18:30And it all optimizes it for you, right? No big deal.
18:34Everything's good to go. You still got your head-to-head.
18:37You're still making trades, still making waivers. But that big piece there where you don't have to set your lineup means that all your bench players are coming.
18:48They have a chance to make a real difference on your team, right?
18:52Like, yeah, 100%. It's that one small change. And I think that anybody who thinks of the word Best Ball, if you're
19:00playing Dynasty, you should know the word Best Ball and what that means, right?
19:05Not having to set your lineup. And your optimal starting lineup is always set for you.
19:11So because of that, like you're saying, your bench becomes your starting lineup or an opportunity for your starting lineup.
19:18Your bench roster spots are opportunities for points. And so because of that, you have to optimize every single roster spot.
19:26Because when that is an opportunity for points, that's an opportunity for you to win every single week.
19:32How many times in a lineup league did you have like the wide receiver three for the Cowboys and he just popped off for 25 points?
19:42But you never got to capture any of those points because why?
19:46Why would you go start that guy when you had, you know, Jordan Addison, the wide receiver two?
19:52There's no reason to start a Flournoy, you know, if you will.
19:57But in a Best Ball league, you don't have to make that decision.
20:02If you had Flournoy on your team, you got to capture that 25 point game.
20:07So having that aspect of not having to set your lineup changes everything that you know about a Dynasty league.
20:14And we're going to kind of get into that a little bit more here.
20:19Let's talk about the fundamentals that are built around that key difference here.
20:24That will kind of define how the Dynasty Best Ball should be played, or at least, you know, in the most efficient manner.
20:32So I'm going to jump into our presentation mode here and we're going to open up our slideshow with the Dynasty Best Ball Fundamentals.
20:41And then we're going to get into the first one here, which is embrace variance, which should make a ton of sense.
20:49Again, if you know anything about Best Ball or even just what we were saying, variance, the boom bust profiles, not knowing
20:57when they're going to have a big game. Maybe not even that.
21:01Maybe it's just they're getting snaps and maybe you're not even expecting these guys to score points, but you know, they're going to be on the field.
21:11And if they can catch three balls and put up 45 yards in a deep enough Best Ball league, that might actually enter your lineup.
21:20And you, you might need to capture that because you never know when your stud guy is going to, you know, bust
21:28for a week and you need to replace that guy with whatever you can get.
21:33I remember, is it Ty Johnson? I think the backup running back for the Bills.
21:39That guy in a Best Ball league is great, man.
21:42Like he'll get a random touchdown and catch a couple of balls.
21:47And all of a sudden he's got 10 points in a PPR league.
21:51And you're like, let's go. Like, I like this guy.
21:55So let's talk about this a little bit more, man.
21:58Like in a Dynasty Best Ball league, how are you embracing variance here?
22:03So I think you said it, right? It's not just about the opportunities, but it's also, it's the volume.
22:10It's figuring out who's going to have that opportunity to go off for that 20 point week, right?
22:17Who's going to get that long bomb touchdown. It's going to get that big score.
22:22And suddenly they're in your lineup. What I like to do though, is balance that out a little bit.
22:29I want to make sure that I've got some stable floor with my spike guys.
22:34Yeah. But that's up to you, right? But I like to have a little bit of consistency and then go over the
22:42top with your Jameson Williams, your Christian Watsons, right?
22:45Those guys that are going to go off for 150 yards and two touchdowns here and there, right?
22:52Get those spikes and win your weeks. And if they, if they do kind of bomb out, it doesn't matter because you
23:00got 10 other guys there to fill right in.
23:03Yeah. No, that's, and that's a great way to put it.
23:07You know, like I think if we were to compare this to like a regular dynasty league, pairing those, that type of
23:15player with maybe like a Wandale Robinson, right? Where they're not going to get crazy amounts of yardage, but they are going
23:23to put points on the board through just catches, right?
23:27So they have a really safe floor, but not a high ceiling.
23:31And then you pair him with a guy like you're saying, who's going to go off for two touchdowns and 90 yards, something like that.
23:40That's the equivalent in like a regular dynasty league of rostering like a CD lamb or like a Justin Jefferson.
23:47You're just Frankensteining it with a couple of players, right?
23:51Obviously it takes two, two or three bench bots to kind of make that player come together, but we can do that
23:59in best ball because we don't have to choose to start with one of them.
24:04We get the opportunity for any one of those three to enter the lineup on an, on each week.
24:11Right? So I think embracing variance is kind of pursuing spike weeks and building around them.
24:17Like you're saying, right? Having those high variance players on your team, but then also balancing them out with something that has
24:25a safer floor that you can ensure you're not going to get a zero for that week, but have the opportunity to
24:33get that high boom game from them. And I think the best way to do that is you assign number of starts to players.
24:41And this is something that I take from Scott Connor.
24:45If you're not following Scott Connor, what are you doing?
24:48Follow him immediately. He's Charles Schill FFE on pretty much any platform.
24:53I'm pretty sure. But what he does is he takes them.
24:57He looks at their, their spike weeks, you know, goes through their profile, looks at, okay, how many times did this guy
25:05score 10 plus points in a season? Okay. Um, player X scored 10 plus points three times last season.
25:12That means this guy's going to hit my time.
25:15You know, my, my roster about three times every season.
25:18That's three starts. And when you equate it to starts, you have to kind of give yourself, um, a target number to hit.
25:27And so how he does that is okay. I play in a league where I start two wide receivers every week.
25:34There's 14 week seasons, not including playoffs. So two wide receivers times 14 weeks is 28 wide receiver starts.
25:41So if I have one player that's going to hit my lineup roughly three times in a season, now I need X
25:49amount of players now to, to get in 25 wide receiver starts.
25:53So that's kind of how he looks at this, right?
25:57He starts breaking it down by taking players, figuring out how many times that guy can enter my lineup.
26:04Obviously this isn't a perfect system. We don't know what week they're going to enter our lineup.
26:10We can't plan for this mini player, this player to enter my lineup this week and this player to enter my lineup next week.
26:19So there's going to be overlap when they do, but this is the best we can do.
26:25If you build into that and plan for more than starts than you need, then you're golden.
26:31Obviously when you have a guy like a stud, like Jamar Chase, you can pretty much just lock him in or 14 starts, right?
26:40That's the, that's the benefit of having a Jamar Chase on your team is now you need less starts from everyone else.
26:48Do you kind of see things similarly or how do you kind of, uh, go around pursuing the spike weeks and building around them?
26:56Is that what you do when you build your rosters?
27:00Yeah, for sure. And kind of like the way that I like to think about it with those spikes is almost, if
27:08you think about like a sine wave, right? So you got that peaks and valleys that keep going across and then you can kind of overlap that.
27:18So if you've got a couple of different players and they've each got their own sine waves as they start to stagger.
27:25And then you'll see those peaks are kind of covered by all of them, right?
27:31As you go across. And so that's my lineup at the top there.
27:36So I'm trying to maintain that straight line at the top across all those different sine waves that are kind of keeping me going.
27:44Yeah, no, I love that. That's a, that's a good comparison.
27:48I followed that with my math brain. I'm totally there with you.
27:53I wish I had a visual for all those, uh, language art, uh, uh, majors out there, but hopefully you guys, you
28:00know what, what the sine wave looks like and you can kind of draw that, but I do love that.
28:08Let's talk about why the boom bus profiles are kind of gold more so in, in a best ball league here.
28:15And I mean, it's exactly what we're talking about, right?
28:19We're pursuing the spike weeks here, but because these boom bus profiles are kind of more desirable here than they would be in a regular lineup league.
28:29I think the results is that you have more relevant players in a dynasty league.
28:34And since you have more relevant players, it leads to a larger trade market and more diverse builds, which we're going to
28:42get into roster construction here at the end. So stay tuned.
28:46We'll dive more into that. But that's honestly, probably one of my favorite things about best ball dynasty is just how lucrative the trade market is.
28:55Like you're always able to approach someone and be able to make a trade and thirds, fourths fab has never mattered more
29:03in any other league than like a best ball league because it's like, Hey, like I got, I got a quarterback that's
29:11hurt this week and I just need one star.
29:14I just need him to get in there. And I don't care that it's super gross.
29:20And, you know, like a, a Mike Jones getting, getting in there.
29:25Like I don't have to choose to start him if he, if he booms because he's got a good matchup.
29:32Awesome. If not, maybe I have another quarterback on my bench that can kind of make up that.
29:38So you don't have to commit to them. I think is why, why it is.
29:44Do you find this kind of the same way?
29:47Do you find like your, your trade markets are a little more loose and you know, they're, the wheels are greased for these trades to happen.
29:56Yeah. Way more fluid, right? Because you'll find a guy that you like somebody else likes anything like that.
30:03And then suddenly they're, you know, on your roster, they're gone threes, fours, like all these late round picks are great for facilitating these things.
30:12As you start to get into the, the more appropriate players, those big boom busts, that's when you get the first and seconds involved.
30:21But just, uh, just what, two days ago, I sent it off, you know, Mike Kosicki for a fourth because somebody else wanted him and I didn't care.
30:31I got a free roster roster spot and then I can go grab somebody else.
30:36Yeah. So good. And honestly, like that guy who got Kosicki for a fourth is probably like, dude, I just bought myself
30:44like five starts for, for a fourth round pick, you know, like, and that's the other good thing about dynasty in general
30:52is, you know, you can have multiple people win a trade here.
30:57Right. Yeah. And I, I want to touch on again to that more relevant players means more diverse builds and we're, we're
31:05going to dive more into that, but I want you guys to kind of keep that in the back of your mind here.
31:13And we'll talk about how, how that's a little bit more possible here at the end, but we are going to move
31:21on to our next fundamental here, which is to prioritize depth.
31:25And this kind of goes along with what we were just saying, right?
31:29These, these boom bust profiles, you know, the, usually these guys are only going to enter your flex on your roster in
31:37a lineup league when somebody's on a buy or something like that.
31:42Right. It's just like, Oh, I don't really feel safe, you know, starting this guy, but I, you know, AJ Brown's on
31:50by and I really, really need a starter. You know, maybe this guy can boom and get me 15 points.
31:57Those kinds of pieces in a best ball league are extremely valuable.
32:01And we want that depth built around them so that we have more opportunities for these guys to enter our lineup.
32:09If I have five profiles that are the exact same, like Jameson Williams, Jordan Addison, Alec Pierce, whose profiles has changed, but he was like that last year.
32:19You know, you can even throw like a Ryan Flournoy in there.
32:23All of a sudden I'm overlapping these sign waves.
32:26Like you're talking about, right? I have multiple times where these guys are going to boom and I'm stacking them all together
32:34so that that line is always at the top.
32:38One of those guys or two of those guys, if I'm lucky, are going to be entering my lineup.
32:45So having that depth of all these players that can have the potential to get into your lineup is so important, right?
32:52So do you think that this is true? And like, how are you knowing that you're a contender in a best ball
33:00league when it's not just enough to have strong starters like you would in a lineup league?
33:07Is there kind of anything that you're looking for when you're getting into a contending position?
33:12Yeah. When you've got to look at your starting requirements, right?
33:16And go, okay, I've got, you know, say I've got 11 starters.
33:21I've got 12 starters. Then I look at my bench.
33:24You basically want to have double the number of starting positions available.
33:29So if you've got, you know, super flex, you want to have like three, four quarterbacks.
33:34If you've got, you know, start two running backs, you want at least four, right?
33:40That are going to be able to get in there.
33:43If you've got start three wide receivers, you're looking at six.
33:47And then when you start thinking about flexes, that's when, you know, because your flex can be made up by anybody.
33:55That's where you get some wiggle room, some play time where you can say, okay, I think I like this.
34:02I could like this. We've got a tight end premium.
34:06Maybe I can kind of put things into there on that side.
34:10And that's where you get a lot of that free, uh, kind of free area to roam in your roster, uh, set up there.
34:19Yeah, no, that's so good. You nailed it on the head, right?
34:23Is trying to double the number of starting positions that you're required to start each week with someone who can reliably enter your lineup.
34:32And now we can balance that out, right? Like, like we were saying, we're embracing the variance and kind of taking that
34:40boom bust player with a more safe floor player.
34:43Like those two things go hand in hand and making sure like you may not see like, uh, uh, Jamison Williams as
34:51like a reliable starter type, but in a best ball league, I would count him as someone who's reliably entering my, my
34:59lineup because he's probably getting in there maybe seven or eight times a season.
35:04And that's good enough for me to count on this guy to get in there.
35:09So I think one thing that's kind of a result of us prioritizing depth and making sure that we have more players
35:17on our lineup that can enter into our roster any given week versus, you know, trying to consolidate and get into those
35:25hammers and have those Jamar chases and, you know, Devon A.
35:29Chan and those types of players. I think the results of that is like studs are kind of diluted in value.
35:37They're a lot harder to move in best ball leagues.
35:40People are very savvy to knowing depth is King.
35:44And when their values are so high, like think about trying to trade for a Bajon Robinson in a lineup league.
35:51The amount of assets you have to give up to get him is astronomical.
35:56There's not one asset you can give up to go get Bajon Robinson.
36:01And if there is, it's another player like Bajon Robinson, like a Jamar Chase or like a Josh Allen.
36:08Right. So a lot of times when you're trying to attain these guys in a lineup league, you're giving up multiple assets to go get them.
36:17Well, when we think about best ball dynasty and we're talking about prioritizing depth, if I'm giving up multiple assets to go
36:25get one asset, that seems like the exact opposite of what we're telling you.
36:30And that is, that's, that's the truth in the case of what we're seeing here.
36:36So because of this, Bajon Robinson, Jamar Chase, all these guys are diluted in value just because the market isn't quite there for them.
36:44People don't want to go and pay multiple assets to get him.
36:48And so they're a little bit harder to, to move or, or to roster.
36:54And in that case, like when you have them just know they're on your team and you need to build around them
37:01because you're probably not going to get fair market value for them.
37:06Uh, and what, what you think is fair market value for them.
37:10So when you're building a best ball dynasty roster, are you seeking these guys out and say like a startup or something like that?
37:19Or are you, do you have a different strategy in mind here?
37:23So yes and no, right? Love a good stud, especially at tight end.
37:28Cause then you don't have to worry about it as much because those things are all over the place.
37:35But the key is really building your roster around where you have those studs and where you need to make up for that in volume.
37:44So if I've got a couple of stud running backs, then I'm going to make up for wide receiver with depth and
37:52I'm going to have more of them. If I've got, you know, kind of a late round QB thing going on, then
38:00I'm going to need a bunch of those, right?
38:03Because I don't have that stud. So you can kind of make up for your, uh, your high end players with, with depth.
38:11I think Koopa did a study, figured out the number of different players it would take to replace a high end one.
38:19It's there. You can do it on your team.
38:22You just can't do it everywhere. So it becomes important to figure out where you're going to make those bets and say,
38:30I'm going to make, I'm going to have some, some studs here and I'm going to kind of dilute the rest of the way.
38:39Yeah, no, that it's so, so key. And you probably are hearing us allude here so often to the roster build and the construction of it.
38:48And we haven't even hit our number five fundamental here, which, which is roster construction, you guys.
38:54So I'm just going to give you a little, um, preview, or I guess, I guess that's more of like a, uh, a spoiler, I guess.
39:04But it is so, so crucial here. And it is, this is why I love Best Ball Dynasty so much is because
39:12there are so many different ways to construct a team, right?
39:16Like, like, like John saying, having reliable, but also high end ceiling outcomes on your roster allows you to dedicate less of your roster space to that position.
39:26And so you can kind of devote the rest of your roster space to make up for, for those, uh, shortcomings on your roster.
39:35So because of this, tear downs are King and Best Ball roster or sorry, Best Ball Dynasty.
39:41They're also pretty hard to come by, uh, but you can get them done in season.
39:46I found a lot of times, especially in very shallow leagues.
39:50I play in a Best Ball league where we only roster 24 players and we still have to start, I think 10 or 11.
39:59So in that league, the waivers are super fruitful, but because your, your roster is so strong in, if you're rebuilding, you can get some ridiculous trades done.
40:09Like, I think I traded like Dallas Goddard, Jacoby Brissett, and I don't know, maybe like Jamison Williams.
40:16I traded those three players for like a first in Malik neighbors last year to a contending team.
40:22Malik neighbors was useless to them. He, he wasn't playing.
40:26And the first was to make up for all the other production, ridiculous stuff like that guys that never gets done in a lineup league.
40:35You can get done in Best Ball leagues just because you need to prioritize depth and tear downs are King.
40:42All right. We're going to take a quick break here and then we're going to get back into our next Best Ball Fundamental.
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43:16All right. Welcome back. John, when people tell you, oh, I want to play in a Best Ball Dynasty League because it's
43:24such a grind having to set my lineup every week.
43:27It feels like it'd be really nice to just have it set for me.
43:32What would you tell that person? It's like, ah, Best Ball Dynasty is for me because I don't want to set my lineup.
43:41I don't want to work that hard. It's true.
43:44I mean, I don't want to set my lineup.
43:47So I can't blame them. But, you know, you set your lineup, what, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, depending on what time of year it is.
43:56Get a Thursday game in there. Friday games. I think we had a Tuesday, whatever these days are that they're playing the games.
44:04You basically have to make sure that you got your lineup, you got your early games in the right places.
44:11It's a pain. I get it. But just because we're in Best Ball now doesn't mean that you don't have to pay attention.
44:20Right? You still got to go make your trades.
44:23You still got to grind waivers. You got to check your league rules.
44:28See if players lock after they've played. If not, you can kind of go exploit that edge, drop them after a game, pick up somebody else.
44:37You get more shots at the target there, trying to get those points by just leveraging, dropping the early player, picking up
44:45somebody who's playing on Sunday, drop somebody from Sunday, pick up somebody from Monday.
44:50You can really grind and get some edge on that.
44:54Yeah. Stay on that grind is what we're calling this third dynasty fundamental here.
44:59I think people do have that kind of connotation of a Best Ball League is that it's probably going to be a lot less work.
45:08And that's probably true if you're rebuilding. You can probably maybe slack off a little bit.
45:13You can kind of just roster these players who aren't scoring very many points.
45:18They're backups. And when they do get in relevancy, you trade them away.
45:23But if you're contending, this is very much a week-to-week game.
45:27You're looking at buying starts. You're looking at, you know, like we were just saying, trading a fourth to get Mike Kosicki
45:35because Mike Kosicki has a good matchup this week.
45:38And I feel like I could use another shot at a tight end here because I'm going up against Brock Bowers this week.
45:47And so I need to, I need to make sure that I have somebody that can, you know, give me another opportunity opportunity to match that production there.
45:57You're also trying to find snaps off of wafers.
46:00And yes, I literally mean snaps. When I'm in a best ball league and I'm on waivers, I go and I sort by snap percentage.
46:09And if that guy has like a 30, 40% snap percentage, guess what?
46:14If I got room in my roster, he's making it on my team.
46:18Another thing that I think is like, uh, flies under the radar with best ball leagues is you need to manage injuries
46:26because it's not like a lineup league. There are no IR spots in, in a best ball league.
46:33So you can't just go stash them, go pick up another player.
46:37An injury on a contending squad is it kills you because now you have to hold a roster spot for this guy who's not scoring you any points.
46:47And it's one less opportunity for you to get them.
46:51Plus you're down a player who's usually a reliable starter for you.
46:55So a lot of times that's why you can get Malik neighbors for crazy, ridiculous prices last year.
47:02Like I was just talking about, I would say it's to put it in a, you know, a term that I know
47:10is it's not laissez faire, you know, like the more engaged you are in your best ball dynasty league, the greater edge
47:18you're going to have churning the bottom of your roster with waivers is so important.
47:23Like we said, just trying to find snaps, trying to get ahead of people who are finding, looking at targets per route run.
47:31I'm constantly monitoring that. If there's, there's anybody who's getting these targets, I want them on my team because that means opportunities for points.
47:40And again, like we were talking about previously with prioritizing depth, this just enables a livelier market.
47:46Late round picks and fab matter so much more because you can trade fourths for players that don't normally matter.
47:53Like you wouldn't even think about it. So, staying on that grind is just another way here that it changes from a lineup league.
48:02I would say you work harder in a best ball dynasty league.
48:06Do you think that's fair to say? For sure.
48:10And also, it keeps the rebuilders engaged because they're sitting there constantly trying to get points off their roster.
48:16And so, they're buying those injured players. They're taking up spots, collecting those zeros so that they don't have to worry about
48:24it and getting that value for later. So, if I'm a rebuilder in a best ball dynasty league, I'm buying those injured guys every single time.
48:34Right? That's an opportunity to buy studs when you can't normally buy studs because they're devalued to the contenders and they're great for me.
48:42Yeah, no. Well said. So well said. And honestly too, like that just goes into enabling a market too, right?
48:50Like, you have more of a symbiotic relationship between contenders and rebuilders more so than you would in a lineup league because
48:58you can't just stash these guys away and like they hide them on the back of your roster.
49:04No, you need those roster spots. Those are more important than holding that player.
49:09Right? So like, just again, this is why I love best ball dynasty just because the trades are there and that's probably my favorite part about dynasty.
49:19I don't know. Do you like trading, John? Absolutely.
49:22I got to get those trades in, right? That's right.
49:26Especially with those lovely tools from Keegan you mentioned earlier, right?
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49:46You guys let me know. All right, let's move on to our fourth dynasty best ball fundamental here.
49:52And we're going to call it zero snaps equals zero points.
49:56And I changed it. I had it earlier calling it the duality of zeros, but I kind of wanted this to be
50:04a little bit more standalone and I felt like duality of zeros was a little bit vague.
50:10If someone was to look at this, they wouldn't maybe know exactly what that meant and we wouldn't have five or six minutes here to talk about it.
50:21So I wanted to change it to be a little more punchy.
50:25We're calling it zero snaps, zero points because that's essentially what this comes down to is zeros, meaning players who have no
50:33chance at production unless promoted to a starting role like backup running backs or backup quarterbacks.
50:39They are actively hurting your lineup and your weekly scores.
50:42Sometimes that's a good thing. Like we were just talking about, John was saying these rebuilders want that so that they can
50:50get a better pick going into the future years.
50:53However, for contenders, those are actively hurting your weekly lineup.
50:57They're stealing an opportunity for points. So there's this duality of zeros here where they're good and they're bad, which we've talked
51:05around and through here so many different ways. But it needs to be emphasized because this is the crux of everything, right?
51:13Is understanding that each roster spot is another chance for you to win your week.
51:18It doesn't even matter the name in that roster spot.
51:22You literally, you don't have to assign names to anybody in this.
51:26You can just look at stats and snaps and targets and you just want them in there because they might go off
51:34for five catches, 75 yards and a touchdown and all of a sudden you have 16 points in your flex because you
51:42picked a guy up off of waivers here. That is so clutch here.
51:47So that whole thing here, holding those zeros on a contending squad, I said you really want to avoid these zeros.
51:54But you push back a little bit on that, John, right?
51:58What did you have to say about this? Yeah, so I think here's where you got to be intentional, right?
52:06Zeros can be okay as long as you don't have too many of them.
52:11You don't want to necessarily have that third string backup QB or something.
52:15You don't want that running back that's not really going to do anything because he's sitting there and he'll come in because he's the handcuff, right?
52:25You want those guys with jobs. So you can balance it out as long as you know when you've gotten your rookie
52:33draft, a lot of those guys are coming in.
52:36They're going to be zeros off the bat. So you've got to plan, have that space for them, and then understand that
52:44depending on your depth, this may or may not be a good thing for you to have, right?
52:50Maybe you want to trade out of that spot, move back, move forward, trade up in your drafts, right?
52:57For me, if I'm looking at a rookie draft and I see like, hey, this is a shallow league and I know
53:05I don't have a ton of bench space because I was trading back already.
53:10I was already doing that tier down. Now I'm going to have to do some consolidation, right?
53:16So I find that it ebbs and flows and over time you do your tier downs, you do your tier downs, and
53:24then suddenly your roster's full of these players and like, I got to do something, right?
53:30Otherwise, these thirds and fourths, where are they going to go?
53:34They need space. So that's when you got to start trading up, you just start consolidating.
53:40And you start doing the tier ups. And so this is kind of that league economy where you've got this whole ecosystem
53:48of people going up, going down, you got rebuilders going, and this is that really live trade market, which I really like in basketball.
53:56Yeah, no, so true. Yeah, being selective with the zeros, like you're saying, not, any QB on a two deep is not
54:04necessarily as viable as a strategy here as it would be in like a lineup league.
54:10I wouldn't say you could just apply that to any sort of roster construction in the dynasty best ball.
54:17There's a time for it, like we're saying, you know, maybe you're rebuilding or something like that.
54:23Or maybe you're thin at running your quarterbacks, but they're both studs, and you want to dedicate one spot to the backup running back for that quarterback.
54:33So that way, if they get hurt, you still have another running back.
54:38That'd be a time where I would say, you know, that might be a good time to be selective and rostering a zero.
54:46If your build allows for it, it's okay to do it.
54:50You just have to be intentional with it, like John is saying.
54:54Well said, man. Well said. Any other thing you want to say here on the zero points before we move on?
55:02Yeah, this is actually, this is a place where I don't mind having the direct backup occasionally, right?
55:08If it's one of those high-end sets where you know they're going to fill in and get that full workload.
55:15What I don't want is when there's an ambiguous backfield where I don't want to carry like four guys to end up with one spot.
55:24That's not efficient for me. But if I know that CMC has got a backup and he is the guy when CMC
55:32goes down, that I don't mind as much because I'm going to get that same production or 80% or whatever it is for that couple of games, right?
55:43Or I'll pick them up off waivers, trade form, whatever needs to happen.
55:47But that's where I don't mind it as much and where I'm being selective about who to put in there.
55:54I think you said it perfectly with the QBs, right?
55:58Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you something that I never had actually thought about until I was in this situation.
56:05It was a 10-team best ball dynasty startup last year.
56:09I drafted very heavy into a contending build. The league puts a premium on running backs, especially pass-catching running backs.
56:16They get an extra half point per reception on top of that.
56:20They get a first down bonus. So I knew I wanted to lean heavily into running backs.
56:26And I traded back, traded back, traded back. I had all my picks consolidated into rounds four through seven.
56:33Then I immediately went Christian McCaffrey. I think I got Devon HN in the back of the second.
56:40I have Derek Henry on that squad. Joe Mixon ended up being on that squad.
56:45Jalen Warren. I was so heavily indexed into these running backs early on that to make the build work, I had to
56:53draft older receivers that were still producing at a high level.
56:57So guys like Devontae Adams, Tyreek Hill ended up on that squad.
57:01I had Terry McLaurin. all these guys, Mike Evans, all these guys in the later back half of the early rounds in a startup draft.
57:10And what I didn't account for going into this build was now this year, some of them lost jobs.
57:17Some of them are still injured. So I have probably five or six roster spots dedicated to zeros.
57:24I can't, I can't, and they're not bad enough to where I should be able to drop them either.
57:30I was over-indexed into one type of asset and now I'm paying the price for that because these, they've turned into zeros, right?
57:39So that's something that I didn't expect in this startup was these guys all aging out at the same time and being over-indexed into this.
57:48And there was, it's just wisdom that I wanted to share with you guys and being intentional with the zeros but also
57:56projecting when they're going to turn into zeros and if they get there, how do you manage that?
58:02Do you have the resources to kind of build around that?
58:06Keep an eye on those age cliffs, understand how old each kind of area of your roster is, and then keep an
58:14eye on that compared to your draft capital. So I'm assuming, you know, this is coming out of a startup, you do
58:22a bunch of trade-ups, move up and get some players or you have some of your future picks still there because if
58:30your roster is that old, you need those future picks for later.
58:34Fill those holes when there are injuries, when they're out.
58:38So just bring in some young blood when you're turning the page to 20, 27, 28, and so on.
58:45Luckily, I did. I was able from trading back so many times, I had two extra firsts banked.
58:51So I had three firsts this year. I think I traded two of them away in season last year to get Justin
58:59Jefferson, which just felt like an absolute steal. So I was able to kind of stop the landslide, but I still don't
59:07know what to do with all these zeros on the back.
59:11I'm kind of just waiting out this season. I don't have to do anything with them right now.
59:18Maybe some of them get jobs, maybe not, but if they don't, then I feel okay dropping them at that point.
59:25But being intentional with your zeros is the lesson here.
59:29Zero snaps equals zero points. All right, let's get on to the next one.
59:34Probably the most important here of all of them.
59:37roster construction above all. We've talked about it already or I guess talked around it already in many ways, but I think you said it best, man.
59:47You said it in the discord when it was Kurti talking about how he's doing his first best ball league.
59:54You gave him some great advice consolidated I think into 10 different items here, but this one stood out to me the
60:02most, man, and I want you to kind of share it with the listeners here.
60:07Yeah, so the way I started it was think GM not coach.
60:12So in this case, you're building a roster. You're getting this team together.
60:16You're not putting in what the plays are. You're not setting your lineup.
60:21You're not figuring out who's going to be on the field doing whatever needs to happen.
60:27You're taking this set of guys, bringing it with you each week and saying, this is my team.
60:33These are the guys that are going to score my points and then rolling with it.
60:39Yeah, it's so important, right? Like you said, a coach would choose who to start every week and what plays to call,
60:47whereas a GM is worried about the chemistry of the team and the profiles that he's selecting to give to the coach
60:55so that they can have an important or I guess a synergized roster, right?
61:00So in that kind of sense, when we're thinking GM, you need to plan your roster around these positional allocations.
61:07Just like in an NFL organization, you don't necessarily see a team with seven QBs, right?
61:13And why is that? Well, they're not going to need them all.
61:17Just like in a best ball league, you want to allocate the number of positions you need for that, right?
61:25And maybe that's four to five quarterbacks. I think that's probably pretty typical for a best ball league.
61:31You want at least three, but if you can have five starting quarterbacks on your team, you're doing it right because we
61:39all know any quarterback can have a down week and any quarterback can have an up week.
61:45So having those bites at the apple to enter the roster is good.
61:50Similarly, you need a plan for running backs, right?
61:53Maybe you want six to seven of them or maybe you have a Bajon Robinson, you have a Jonathan Taylor, and let's say somebody like Quinchon Judkins.
62:03You have three stud running backs that can enter your lineup every week.
62:08Maybe you don't need another five running backs in that team.
62:12maybe you only need two or three and you have a weakness at wide receivers that you want to fill more in.
62:20So you really want to plan your positional allocations here.
62:23Think ahead for how your team should look. What assets do you have?
62:28What are your strengths? What are your weaknesses? How are you going to dedicate these roster spot allocations accordingly based on those strengths and weaknesses?
62:37And I think when you look at your when you look at your league size, your roster requirements, and that's going to come into play here too.
62:47Because if you've got a 10-team league, a 12-team league, 14-16, whatever it happens to be, it's different numbers of rostered players.
62:55And then your depth of your benches as well.
62:58So there are players that are going to be available if you're in a 10-by-10 with a 26-man roster.
63:05There's going to be a ton more available to you on waivers.
63:09You don't need to roster the same way. If you're 12-by-12, if you've got 32-man rosters, those waivers are going to be a lot more barren.
63:18So you have to be kind of intentional about where you roster things as well.
63:24Yeah, no, so crucial there is to consider not only the roster settings, but also the scoring settings too, I think is another way to do it, right?
63:34I mean, if you're playing in a tight end premium, which I think this is actually an interesting topic of the session
63:42that we're going to get into when we get into the roster construction of tight ends, we're going to dedicate a whole episode to it.
63:51But with these tight ends and the new personnel trend that we have in the NFL, we're going to see a lot more of them entering our flex.
64:01Maybe we can build a little bit slimmer at wide receiver and running backs because of that and take more shots at
64:09these tight ends, especially, really only in tight end premium leagues here where you're going to see them become more and more.
64:17I took a look at the war graphs over the last few years and compared them side by side.
64:24The gap between tight ends and wide receiver is getting smaller and smaller as the years go on.
64:30And I kind of expect that trend to continue at least for another one more year here.
64:36So not only do you need to know your total roster size, like John is saying, how to allocate them, and the scoring settings that go into it.
64:46I think the overall theme here is that we want to optimize our roster spots for synergy, right?
64:53You don't want like three stud quarterbacks and then rostering, assuming super flex, by the way, which is really, if you're not
65:01playing super flex, I don't know, maybe it's not for you, but that is the new vanilla for me.
65:08If you have three stud quarterbacks, you shouldn't be rostering another five quarterbacks that are good profiles, but they don't have a starting job, right?
65:17Like a Michael Penix, or like a JJ McCarthy, or a Carson Beck, like we're talking about, right?
65:23Like, that's not a synergized roster at that point.
65:27You're wasting roster spots on quarterbacks because you already have three stud QBs between those guys, they're going to fill those quarterback starts more than enough for you.
65:37What's another way you would say that you could synergize a roster here?
65:41So if I'm thinking about it, and to stick with QBs for a second, you can do, you know, if you've got
65:49your Penix and your, what is it, Tua's over there now, right?
65:54It looks like it's filling that spot because now you've got that roster spot secured, whoever the starter is, you've got it,
66:02but now you're eating up two spots. If you're on one of those more shallow leagues, do you really want to dedicate those two spots for one position?
66:12Not really. That's a great time you can package them up together, send them somewhere else.
66:17Or if you look around the league and go, oh, I had Tua, but now he's over there, go find the Penix manager, send him that way, right?
66:27You've now found some synergy with that other team, with that manager, you're able to bring them across.
66:34If you start to look at your running backs, things like that, you want to kind of mix profiles that, or even
66:42with wide receivers, mix those profiles like we talked about earlier, the consistency is along with the spike weeks, get things that work together well.
66:51We can get into it on a running back show, but for the running backs, I prefer get those guys with jobs,
66:59get those starters, followed by some of those timeshare guys, the pass-catching running backs, the people that are going to help you out in the PPR league.
67:09The backups, I don't want to spend a ton of time there because they're going to be those zeros.
67:16So you've got to be intentional. Yeah, very intentional, right?
67:19I think balancing not only the ceiling and the floor between the positions, but also balancing the strength and the weaknesses of
67:27your roster with studs and volume, right? I think that's probably like the overall thing that we're trying to convey here is
67:35being intentional with every single roster spot, having a plan that makes sense and works together for one common goal.
67:42One last thing I think we should mention about roster construction is not only allocating, you know, roster spots to certain positions,
67:50like, you know, like, I want four roster spots for quarterbacks, I want seven roster spots for running backs and nine roster spots for right receivers.
68:00You should also assign some roster spots to be free to where you can churn those spots in and out of the waivers, right?
68:08Having the flexibility to drop somebody and go and pick somebody else up off of the waivers is so crucial in a best ball league.
68:17You don't want to roster these guys that are developmental prospects that aren't going to give you spots but you also don't want to drop them, right?
68:27Because you're like, ah, he might break out, right?
68:30Those are the kind of guys that I'm not really looking to get and I'd rather have somebody like Olamita Zaccheaus.
68:38That sounds gross, right? But it's like, dude got snapped last year, dude got targets, right?
68:44Like, that was pretty easy to see that he was going to be somebody that could enter my flex for me last year.
68:52And so, having him on there makes it to where, okay, cool, as long as he's still producing, you got a roster spot.
69:00As soon as he's not producing, he gone. You know, so it's like embracing that variance from a week-to-week nature allows you
69:08to kind of be more free with how many ever roster spots you dedicate to churning it.
69:14Is there any more that we should say on kind of that part of it?
69:20I mean, that's where those churn comes into play.
69:23Who was the running back on Washington last year that was getting tons of volume catches?
69:29Was it Jeremy McNichols, right? So, perfect example of this, right?
69:33If you've got that roster spot, you can pick him up, throw him in there for a couple of weeks, and then
69:41as soon as you are done with him, back he goes, right?
69:45Hits a bye or something, gets injured, doesn't matter anymore, right?
69:49He's not one of those guys that you have to care about because they have no value because they're waiver guys, right?
69:57If you see Florinoy's out there and you see CD gets an ankle injury or something, go grab Florinoy, throw him in
70:05there, CD's back healthy, toss him back, right? Big deal.
70:08Yeah, no big deal at all. And I think you need to design for that, right?
70:14Because I think that's such a crucial point of being competitive.
70:18And so being able to allocate some spots to that gives you the flexibility and the ability to execute that kind of strategy here, which makes it easier.
70:28I would also say too, in shallower leagues, it's almost easier to do because you can get better production on the waiver
70:36wire because there's better players on the waiver wire.
70:39And that one is almost like a redraft league when you play in those ones, right?
70:45Like you're just trying to choose matchups at that point.
70:49So you're, you're, there's all sorts of good production.
70:52There may be like 10 guys on waivers that are going to be projected at six or seven points.
70:59Yeah, I know that's, that doesn't sound like a lot, but in a best ball league, I'm down, I'm down with those
71:07projections because you know they can boom and get yourself like 10 or 12.
71:12But now you need to decide which one of these guys is the best one to roster for that week because you're
71:20not cutting an Olamita Zaccheaus or a Jeremy McNichols.
71:23You're probably cutting somebody more like Rico Dowdle or maybe like a, you know, like a, who would be a Rashad White
71:31maybe, like somebody like that who should be rostered, but you need to make that tough decision.
71:37Okay, like he's not going to give me the start that I need this week, but I think this guy's got a better chance to do it.
71:47So again, just dedicating those roster spots so that you can execute the strategy, whether it's a shallow league or a deep league.
71:55It's so important to, to have that ability for, for a contending team and even for a rebuilding team too, right?
72:03On the rebuilds, honestly, you have to be careful about how far you strip things down because it's best ball, because everyone is kind of churning so much.
72:13It's really hard to dig out of those holes depending on how far down you go because when you are trying to
72:21strip it down and minimize your points, you may overdo it.
72:25I've seen people with a tendency to go too far and then they end up in this three, four, five multi-year rebuild
72:33because they went too far and they can't get back out of it because they're drafting rookies, right?
72:39So they need to figure out how to get and do those tier downs and sell the rookie picks to get those
72:47productive vets that are still young enough to align with their timeline.
72:52So if you do want to rebuild, try to find that happy medium between no points and some reasonable amount of points.
72:59That's where you've got to get those injured players, get those backup QBs, backup running backs because as soon as the guy
73:07in front of them goes down, you can sell them off with taking minimal points on and maximizing your return.
73:15Yeah, so wise. I love that. Yeah, you can definitely take a rebuild too far.
73:20All right, do you think there's anything more we should say about roster construction here before we kind of wrap this up?
73:28I'd say just one note to the commissioners out there, to the people that are going to start these best ball leagues
73:36is to keep that size in mind when you are designing it.
73:40So if you're thinking about a shallow league, then if you go too shallow, you might hurt your trade activity because of the available players on waivers.
73:50If you go too deep, then you're going to hurt your waiver activity because you don't have anyone out there and everyone's
73:58going to be having to trade, right? Just again, everything I say is be intentional with what you're doing.
74:05Yeah, no, that's a good point. What would you say is like a healthy total roster spot here for someone who's new
74:13and doesn't have that kind of foresight to think all that through?
74:17The way I tend to think about it, depending on what your goal is, if you're trying to have a healthy league,
74:25a little bit of depth, things like that, I'd say double the roster requirements plus something in the four to six range.
74:33So if you're looking at like a 12 by 11, right?
74:37Double that 11 starters, you got 22, add four, you're sitting at 26.
74:42That's kind of the low end, right? And so if you're on a deeper league, maybe more of a 12 by 12,
74:50something like that, now you've got 12 starters, double it, you're at 24, add six, you're sitting at 30, right?
74:57And that's a good healthy spot. As you start to go deeper, then you kind of start to dry up on waivers.
75:05Yeah, no, that's a good point. Okay. That was great, man.
75:09Thank you. Thank you for coming on. I really appreciate all your wisdom here, John.
75:14You're great, bud. Thanks for having me, J-Mac. It's a pleasure.
75:18Great talking to you. Yeah, man, absolutely. That's the one I wanted.
75:22There we go. Go ahead and throw your glasses on.
75:26We're going to do a little bit of neuralizer for everybody.
75:30Nobody saw that. Stay tuned with us, guys. We got more roster construction coming up for you.
75:36You can look for how we're going to build specifically for, I think, QBs and tight ends are next.
75:43John, you mentioned Koopa. I did line him up as a guest.
75:47He's going to be a great resource for everybody to hear on.
75:52So you can stay tuned and be looking forward to that.
75:56Other than that, John, it was a pleasure, man.
75:59Thanks for coming on. My pleasure. Everybody else, hit that like button, subscribe, do what you can to share the podcast, leave a comment.
76:08We'll be back with Jose next week. We missed you, buddy.
76:11Talk to you guys later. Peace. Peace.

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