0:00Sounds like Jaden Daniels is going to be back this week for the Washington Commander. Sounds like there's a chance that Malik Neighbors does not play in a
0:06way that I did not anticipate because the way that Malik Neighbors was talking about his body this week is he didn't
0:12even mention the shoulder, Jacob. He said his knee is still bothering him.
0:16>> So, we have a we I guess we have a um you know, Monty Python situation here where like his body keeps getting
0:23injured. I I guess it's actually not just a flesh wound, though. It's he he's actually doing the opposite. He's like, "My body uh does not does not feel
0:32good." Um I my guess would be neighbors plays and my guess would be his complaints about his body degrades his projection a little bit and makes people
0:43not want to play him that much would be my guess on Neighbors.
0:48>> Yeah, I I think Neighbors he t like every other player talks unrealistically positively about their injuries.
0:57Neighbors seems to be a total doomer about his injuries.
1:00>> He is such a doomer.
1:03>> Yeah. So, I I feel like I'm just going to guess that he plays. I I don't know.
1:08We'll we'll see. But my my estimate is he actually does play. He's just a massive tumor about it. Like he played
1:16cuz he played week one and he was like, I'm going to leave it up to God to decide. You know, I can't play unless I
1:22I feel like my body is like 100% right.
1:25you know, I'm not going to put my career on the line. And then he played like a pretty full snapshare and he was he was
1:30fine. So, I I don't know. I think he's clearly dealing with stuff. If if he plays, I'm going to assume that he is
1:38going to play close to a full snapshare.
1:41Um, and he he was he was certainly, you know, playable last week at a pretty similar tag. So, I'm I'm open-minded to
1:48it. No, I I think that assuming Neighbors is good to go and assuming that there is, you know, a lot of FUD, a
1:55lot of fear, uncertainty, and doubt about Neighbors. I was so encouraged by Jamus.
2:00>> Like Jamus is not good, but we got exactly what we wanted from Jamus last week. He was like, he was like, "Fuck
2:05it. Someone's down there somewhere. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to what?"
2:08He had three touchdowns, two interceptions in that game. It looks like they're not throwing to the running backs at all, which is just like this
2:15was Kraine's theory and I think this is classically like you got to hand it to him that the new coaches for the Giants
2:22had no idea that Scataboo was a good pass catcher and they have absolutely backed that theory up. They have not featured like he had one game with I
2:30think what six targets he had in week two or whatever. But >> not in not in a way that the offense was
2:36designed that way. very very clear Scataboo as a pass catcher is not a designed part of this offense at all.
2:43>> Yeah, >> they've been so weird with their running back rotation. They opened up in week one with Scataboo as like the early down
2:50lead and Devin Singleary as the pass catching back. Then that was kind of what they started with in week two. Also
2:59mixed in some Naji Harris, but then they played Scataboo basically the whole second half comeback mode. Week three, they deactivated Singleary. They made
3:08Scataboo like kind of the Kairen Williams, like he was getting most of the early down and all the pass downs and they used Naji Harris as like a
3:15Blake Cororum. And then in week four, they continued to do that rotation on early downs, but then they they gave Tyrone Tracy all the long down and
3:23distance stuff. I I just I don't understand. Like their running back rotation has literally been different every week. The only constant has been
3:30that Cam Scatabo is like the lead back.
3:33It's just the degree to which that leadback role is satisfying seems to change consistently. I'll also note I think the carries were like 11 to nine
3:42last week before Naji Harris fumbled. Um Naji only played 12 snaps. So he he had he played like way way less than
3:50Scataboo did. But almost every single time he was on the field he was getting fed the ball. And honestly, hand up, he
3:58looks fine.
3:59>> He looks fine. Yeah, I drafted I drafted a bunch of Naji Harris at the end in baseball after he signed. I was like I I
4:06came back from the future and everyone who drafted Cam Scataboo in round four is complaining about Naji Harris getting the goal line work and instead of being
4:14the complainer, I said, I'm actually going to do something with this information. I'm going to stop drafting Cam Scataboo and I'm going to start
4:21taking round 16 uh Naji Harris. And Naji Harris has not scored any points yet and probably won't, but he will have the
4:28opportunity to do that. Um, in fact, the thing they have not done yet, this was this was the weirdest thing they did.
4:35They totally minimize Tyrone Tracy's role and then make him the long down a distance back last week. That was like, what are you doing? Can we just have a
4:44little bit of weak toe consistency? I would bet >> that's not the way to use Tyrone Tracy.
4:50If you want to get Tyrone Tracy 12 snaps, like give him like an outside toss play or something.
4:55>> Play him at wide receiver. If you want to get Tyrone Tracy snaps, play him at wide receiver. Your receiver >> did kind of do that. Like he got the
5:01long down and distance snaps, but for most of those he wound up getting split out. So they did actually kind of use
5:06him at wide receiver. I think he I think he ended up being split out wide on a majority of the snaps.
5:10>> Yeah. So >> get targeted or anything. I I would like to come back from the future again and say one of the things that I bet they'll
5:17try at some point, I don't know if it'll be this week against the commanders or what, they'll just install Naji as the
5:22long down a distance guy. We've actually talked about this a little bit already, that he just becomes the Sage P Ryan
5:27here. And I I would bet that is coming.
5:29Um it's I don't know if it'll be this week. I don't know if it'll be next week, but it's definitely cuz Tracy, God
5:34love him. I mean, he's just terrible. He just he just >> not his role. Yeah.
5:39>> Yeah. Yeah. He's just not any good. So, I'm in on Neighbors, assuming he plays.
5:43And I will reluctantly say this, my our our overall the ship chasing universe, our preseason analysis of Isaiah likely was wrong. Um, I don't know if he's
5:54going to score enough fantasy points because the team is bad enough for us to be punished for that. But the role is
6:00really, really good. and he is either one or two in the pecking order in Giants targets based on how healthy Malik Neighbors is feeling um in a in a
6:09given snap, a given whatever. And at 4,300, I mean, one of the things we should really take more seriously as we're going through the show is just how
6:18bad tight end pricing is relative. If Isaiah likely had his targets and his points as a receiver, he'd be priced at
6:256,000 DraftKings dollars. So, I I I am kind of reluctantly in on Isaiah Likely in in DFS this week and and this is
6:34low-key kind of a good game, I think, actually for fantasy sports.
6:38>> Yeah, I'm definitely in on likely. The the degree to which you think it's a good game, I think probably depends on
6:46what do you think we're going to get out of Jaden Daniels >> and Jamus, frankly, which which version >> and Jamus. Yeah. Are we going to is is
6:53week um is week four Jamus the real Jamus? Because I agree that was a major step forward. That gave me hope that he
7:00can actually keep this job for a while.
7:01You know, he he wasn't perfect. He threw like two horrendous meatball subs, but that's that's fine.
7:07>> That's that's kind of what we want.
7:08Yeah.
7:09>> Yeah. Yeah, like but he was able to push the ball down the field like with some level of >> accuracy of Jamus for fantasy was the
7:17New Orleans Saints Jamus where >> the Teddy Bridgewaterification of Jamus.
7:22>> The Saints coaching staff was like, "If you throw a pick, we will bring Jay Kainer in. We don't care. We'll bring
7:27Jay Kainer in, bro. Watch me. I'll do it." And Jamus was like, "All right, I guess." You know, I I just won't be I
7:33just won't be Jamus. And I I think at least the last game they said, "Hey, man. Go go go and actually play some
7:38football.
7:39Yeah, that first Jamus got benched for Andy Dalton >> so bad. So on the Commander side, we have two injuries here. McLaren misses
7:47last week with a hamstring. I would guess 31year-old receiver pops up with a hamstring. I I'm just going to guess McLaren is not able to play this week.
7:55He he did not practice on Wednesday. He was off to the side. And I just saw this right before we started. Diggs also got
8:02banged up in that game. Apparently a hamstring injury as well. Diggs is even older than McLaren. Although very funny that they're very close in age. Just
8:10it's just cuz McLaren came out from Ohio State at I think he was 24 when he came out. I believe they're only a year
8:15apart. So that's a that's a way of saying Antonio Williams at 3,800 has two paths to being an absolute jam here and
8:24and would probably be such a good play.
8:26He'll get played in cash game teams and if he does get played in cash then he will obviously be just super jammed in
8:32tournaments.
8:34>> Yeah. The only nice thing is that there are going to be we'll get to it other very cheap options this week probably
8:40depending on how some of these injury situations resolve. So at least like people will have multiple paths to pay playing a mega cheap wide receiver. But
8:50I I definitely think Williams would be a worthy play. He would probably be my favorite of the cheap wide receiver plays because I think I actually have
8:57conviction on his talent in addition to just the fact that he'll probably run a bunch of routes. Um, with Jaden, I I
9:04think that he I'm like confident actually that he can lead an effective offense despite the elbow. I don't really want to play him because I don't
9:11anticipate him running nearly as much as we're used to seeing from him, but I I would be pretty comfortable playing an
9:18Antonio Williams with Jaden Daniels. I also think uh I don't even know what his price tag is, but if both Mcccluren and
9:25Diggs were to miss, I'm probably pretty interested in playing Chica Conquo, who has done literally nothing this season because he's missed most of the year
9:32with a hamstring injury.
9:34>> But I feel like that would be a way to get a little bit off of what I expect to be really really chalky Antonio
9:40Williams. And it wouldn't surprise me if Targets just consolidated on the tight end in his second game back off the injury either.
9:46>> I think you're I think you're probably right. And I would guess Chig is probably the only way to play. If if
9:52Diggs and McLuren both uh do not play like one of the ways to get leverage. I don't think people would play Chick. I people
10:01would actually maybe even be more woke to playing like Trail Burks than they would be. Um, honestly, I'm I'm like I
10:08I'm It's hard for me to tell if I'm saying this tongue and cheek or not, but I I want to I kind of wish the Baklava
10:16Bomber was playing in this game. I mean, he was >> Oh god.
10:19>> I I saw a good stat. I think it was like he was the first quarterback to have five passes with over 30 or more air
10:26yards in one game or something like that. Like he just it was it was like he would drop back every single time and
10:31it'd be like, "All right, man. Someone's got to be 60 yards down there somewhere." And that the the touchdown to Burks was dropped in an absolute
10:37bucket. It was a great was a great throw. I I that guy has a fan in me uh for life for sure.
10:44>> Yeah.
10:44>> Yeah. I I don't wish that he was playing this week, but I I do agree that uh that he was he was surprisingly fun over on
10:52that London game.
10:53>> Yeah. Uh all right. The Chicago Bears against the Green Bay Packers. Sounds like Swift and Manungi totally good to go. Uh the Ben Johnson quote was Manung
11:04guy his thumb is fine but he feels like he just came off a game where he got 30 carries so he got rested Wednesday. All
11:09good. Swift also healthy. Just uh there was a quote you don't love if you're a big Swift guy which I know you are which
11:15was that the the fumble Ben Johnson >> Ben Johnson called the well he said the fumble was egregious but he's going to
11:22>> it was bad. It was really bad.
11:24>> I I didn't I didn't hate I didn't really hate the quote. Like I I felt like the quote was basically just explaining what
11:30we already knew, which was like we we benched him. Like he he did wrong.
11:37We punished him severely and we'll see him next week. Like I I'm not anticipating that the that the roles are that different this week than they
11:47were last week or any other point this season or the second half of last season. Like I'm I'm anticipating we're still going to be at Swift 60 and
11:56Manungai 40. Um which makes me I guess not like that immediately interested in playing either of them, but I'm definitely interested to see how much
12:05Manungai does get played off of the off of the big week if there's people that are wanting to lean into that with the
12:11fumble stuff. We'll see. Um for me, probably my favorite plays in this game are are just the slappy wide receivers.
12:20Um, Matthew Golden, Luther Burton. Um, >> Luther Burton is Luther Burton is 4,900.
12:27Bro, they're insulting me. I'm getting I'm getting whoever does the pricing at DraftKings, they must be Khalif Raymond people. They must be the people in my
12:36YouTube comments saying that Khif Raymond is a good waiver wire. I Burden is such a good play this week against the Packers. I would not be surprised if
12:43he ends up in cash game lineups uh this this upcoming week. I mean, it's 4,900 is crazy on him.
12:49>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean the way that it does fail is that like the even even with Burden or even with Raymond getting
12:55phased out last week. Um you know there there still is a interchange of targets between Burden and Rome and Lovelin. We
13:04saw both Lovelin and Roman Dun say much more involved last week than they were in the previous week under Case Keenum
13:10for the year. Luther Burton is still the clear-cut leader in first three targets.
13:13I think he's the best play of the three of them this week when they're all at comparable prices. But, um, if they
13:19don't run 93 plays this week and they do stay as runheavy as they were, that could be a problem. I'm I'm kind of I'm
13:29kind of hopeful that the Packers are going to show up in this game. I know that has been uh something that hasn't
13:34happened much this year, the Packers showing up for games.
13:37>> I I guess I feel like just it's a rivalry game. It's a huge game to kind of save their season.
13:44I I'm guessing we get maybe not a win, but at least a spirited effort from the Green Bay Packers this week. I I think
13:51we will see some level of fight, some level of pride from this operation, and I think that that will be enough to keep
13:58the Bears having to pass a somewhat reasonable amount. So, I I think I'm going to do the the the skinny the
14:05skinny slappy in in multiple lineups this week with Golden and with Burden. I think that's probably in the cards for me. I mean, yeah, we have not seen the
14:14Bears this season in catch-up mode where whatever they do, I don't know, you know, I don't know exactly what the Bears schedule is, but if the Bears get
14:22behind 10 points in a game, so the Bears go at the Seahawks on November 2nd, >> that could potentially be Caleb
14:30Williams' return game, we could see 51 pass attempts in that game or whatever.
14:34I don't think the run game against Seattle is going to work near as well. I mean, I obviously don't know when on the
14:39schedule it's going to happen, but eventually we will get a game where Burden has 30, a Dunay has 16 cuz he
14:45catches a long touchdown and Lovelin also has 20. You know, like that that is for certain happening. I know that we
14:51all are like tilting about the Raymond thing, but he is like so not a part of the offense. Everything that Raymond has
14:56done has been screens or the basically like he is just open like it's the same thing as like you know I don't know
15:04Marquez Vald scaling having a good game or something or or you know whatever these these random guys obviously I think is is a phenomenal play here. I
15:13mean, the the Christian Watson people obviously ran super hot, but you see last week kind of the issue is that weirdly, despite criticisms of him as a
15:23prospect, Golden is actually much more of a normal receiver than Christian Watson is. Watson's actually Watson's more of a specialized guy who who can be
15:31used in very specific ways. But Golden is just like really a normal >> like pretty good I don't know, he's like
15:38the 21st best wide receiver in the NFL or something like that. just like a good normal guy.
15:44>> Yeah, Watson's like a fine enough play, but he's just a little expensive. I mean, Golden's role has legitimately been better this year than Christian
15:51Watson's. Watson's been more efficient, which honestly I kind of expect to continue.
15:56>> I completely agree. Yeah, >> but uh Golden's had the better role. I think that the touchdown variance between them has been pretty random.
16:03Although, I guess it's now starting to even out a bit. I think it's up to four to two. Um, so yeah, I I tend to be like
16:09if you're giving me a $700 discount and you're giving me the higher target share for a guy who's also capable of scoring
16:16touchdowns and scoring 50 yard touchdowns, like I'm I'm just going to play Golden between the two of them.
16:21>> Yeah, I'm I'm with you there. I have no interest in any of the running backs in this game. I mean, obviously Benai
16:26doesn't play. I'm more into Swift. Swift is like he's fine. I if if the Sims are giving me a bunch of him on Sunday,
16:33sure, whatever, but I'm not going there.
16:35And then my expectation for the Packers uh is they're going to try the Marshon Lloyd thing again. Laflur was pissed off
16:43at Caleb Johnson for fumbling, which like whatever. Lloyd also fumbled in that game. He just didn't lose his fumble. But I think we've seen this
16:50every game the Packers have done is they've tried to start every game with Marshon Lloyd and he's just actively so bad that basically it's like all right
16:58well let's see what Chris Brooks can do on the ground. Let's see what Caleb Johnson can do. And that's what I expect
17:03to happen here. I think Lloyd will average like 1.8 8 yards per carry and Caleb Johnson will have to play. We'll
17:09also probably see some of old friend Pier Strong here as well.
17:13>> Yeah, I'm not I'm not playing a Packers running back in DF to do with your life.
17:17>> They have the worst ground game uh in the National Football League. All right, are the Houston Texans at the Tennessee
17:23Titans? Uh I mean I guess two things here. One, can the can we get any volume from Nico Collins? Like can we get like
17:3135 drop backs from the Texans? And then two, how are you rating the Cardinal Tate breakout from last week? Like is
17:39that like a real breakout to you enough that when he is 5,300, you're like, "Yeah, like the guy can get 30 in any
17:45given game because he was the fourth overall pick in the NFL draft."
17:48>> Um, pretty darn pretty darn real, I think. I mean, I don't know that it's necessarily going to be linear because
17:55Cam Ward is just so bad. So, I'm I'm guessing that like there will be more weeks like last week. I think there will
18:04be some duds mixed in. If I had to guess, this feels like a dud. But the Houston Texans defense has not been, you
18:11know, anywhere near what it was last season. Maybe that changes with De Mo Ryan's taking back play calling this week. Who's to say? Uh the Texans stuff,
18:20I was actually really into playing the Texans doubles last week. Obviously, only the single uh really got there with Nico. Um but that was cuz I expected
18:30them to be pushed and the Texans like the Texans have I think a legitimately decent passing game when Nico is healthy. They have no running game. If
18:39you can push them like the Cowboys were able to do, I think that they can be fun because they can just air it out and do
18:46so pretty reasonably effectively. I my guess is that the Titans are going to suck on offense in this game and that
18:54it's going to allow the Texans >> Yeah. And it's going to allow the Texans to play the way that they prefer to
18:59play, which is to run the ball, even though they can't run the ball like at all. So, I I just get the sense that
19:05this game is going to be the the Titans punting a lot and then the Texans um feeling comfortable enough that they're going to run the ball on first
19:15and second down, which will set up third and eight um which will then mean that they will punt a lot and then the Texans
19:22will wind up winning this game like 16-10 when had they just aired it out and thrown to Nico Collins over and over
19:29again, they could have won this game 31-10. That's what I foresee in this game. So, uh, Nico Collins solo, I will probably play in at least like
19:39one lineup under the false hope that the Titan that the Texans choose to play optimally, but I don't know that there's
19:47anyone else in this game that I'm I'm going to be jamming. May maybe Tate. I think that it's I think that like a
19:52Collins Tate skinny stack makes some sense. You get two really talented players um in that even if the game environment might be terrible. To me,
20:01the most attractive thing about Nico Collins is that there's going to be so much ownership on Aman Ross St. Brown and on Michael Wilson at the wide
20:08receiver position that Nico, who has a very similar, you know, game-to-ame ceiling as St. Brown, like no one would be surprised if Nico Collins scored
20:17twice in this game, he will be half as owned as St. Brown. You know, he'll c I mean, he'll be I mean, Michael Wilson is
20:24barreling towards like 40% ownership in the spy in this spot. Nico Collins I don't think will get 220 Tate I'm like
20:32Tate is probably fine to you know what Tate feels like a play that on Thursday you're like yeah sure you know Carnell
20:38Tate whatever and then you get to Sunday and he's just like nowhere in in the Sims stuff like he just because he does
20:43not project strong enough we we've just seen so little I could maybe maybe talk myself into Woody Marks actually at 4800 because there should be so many
20:55rush attempts here like the team should have over I mean they probably have over 35 rush attempts here and Markx is
21:01actually getting a lot of the high value touches now. The the rest in peace to the week one David Montgomery Bros. They
21:07were feeling so good about themselves after week one.
21:10>> I mean they literally just rotate drives. So like the high value touches kind of just go to whoever happens to be
21:17out there when they reach inside the five yard line. Like they they just rotate drives strictly. So it's it's it's very bizarre, but yeah, they they
21:28are like I guess like Montgomery projects slightly better purely on the basis of he plays the first drive. So like he might get one more drive, but
21:37that's that's kind of it. Um it's it's a rotation and I don't know. I don't want to play either of them. Their running
21:44game is so bad.
21:45>> Yeah, I'm I'm I'm with that. All right.
21:48The Minnesota Vikings at the New Orleans Saints. Justin Jefferson said he quote plans on playing, which would be pretty big here. There is like I'm going to
21:58assign this a 7% probability that all of the hatred and and pointing and laughing at Kyler Murray the last two weeks.
22:06Justin Jefferson returning to the lineup solves a little bit of that. I don't think it's I don't think it's going to
22:10make them like one of the 10 best offenses in the NFL or anything, but it could certainly improve things.
22:16Jefferson, if active, will not get played. We have seen the Saints be in these crazy shootout games basically every single week. They've allowed
22:23production to every offense that they have faced. Alave got a veteran rest day on Wednesday. I'm expecting him to be good to go. And then Aaron Jones every
22:33week projects for a billion, gets a bunch of points, and then doesn't end up making. Optimal lineups is going to be
22:40no different this week. He's going to project insanely good. He is going to get played. He actually did get some work in the passing game last week,
22:47which had not been the case the the three weeks before.
22:50>> He's gotten it both. He's gotten it both the last two weeks. And then the question is, do you think that's because
22:55of Kyler or do you think that's because there's no Jefferson or is it a little bit of both? I think it honestly I think
23:01so much of it is about Jefferson because I would guess I mean this is totally like this is an improvable thing but I
23:07would guess actually Gretch wrote about this on in the intro to Stealing Signals about how like offenses now in the NFL
23:14are so much about like okay well what is our star player doing? Pretty much every play is trying to get the ball to the
23:20star player which obviously for the Vikings would be Justin Jefferson. KOC probably had to just like rewrite and rethink about so much of the stuff in
23:28their offense with Jefferson out with this ankle injury. Um, I'm really hoping he plays this week. I mean, another question is Alvin Chimera. I mean, he
23:38got like seven rushes last week, but he got all the green zone touches, got a bunch of work in the receiving game. The
23:44It's a horrible, horrible matchup against the Minnesota Vikings, but he's not going to get owned. I God God help me, man. I'm I'm kind of into playing um
23:53Alvin Kamara this week. I I'm I'm a little into it.
23:59>> No, >> you're out. You're out.
24:01>> Not too where where in your in your in your reddraft stuff, where are you going to rank him this week? Like like running
24:08back >> I don't do weekly rankings.
24:09>> I guess you don't do weekly rankings.
24:11>> Um probably running back 20 would be a good idea. Like he he's basically in the role that ETN was in at the beginning of
24:17the season. So he he will split early down work with Kedre Miller. He'll lose like obvious pass downs to CJ Donaldson,
24:27but when he is out there, they throw him the ball a lot. So that's that's really the path is is the running back targets.
24:33I I would guess that path is disrupted this week because running backs are kept into block so often against Brian Flores that you see
24:42their route rate absolutely plummet. So, I think it's going to be a hard path to seeing that six, seven target game
24:49against the Vikings unless, you know, especially for New Orleans because the the other path you can do is you can do
24:56a bunch of six-man protections with the tight end. You get the running back out.
25:00My my guess is they won't want to do that since they don't even really play blocking tight ends. Um Jawan Johnson is
25:06such an integral part of their passing game. So, I would imagine that the running back will be the sixman and the
25:12protection unit more often than not.
25:14That might even mean just fewer Aerof snaps because he's horrible in pass protection. But I would guess at the very least that probably means fewer
25:23routes. That seems like it's been the trend line for most teams playing Flores. So I don't usually like to play pass game reliant running backs against
25:30the Vikings. Um so probably would be like lower than consensus I guess would be my answer on Chimera. But yeah, he's
25:36he's like a top 24 running back. I don't I just don't know what the ceiling is.
25:40Like, yeah, he could score two touchdowns again or he catch five passes. And I guess that's the ceiling.
25:45The yardage ceiling is non-existent.
25:47>> Against floors, against Brian Flores, he could catch like nine passes. He could do what Chase Brown did last week.
25:54>> That That would be the path. That would be the path for sure.
25:57>> Yeah. Yeah. Which, you know, whatever.
25:59Um, and then I mean, if a if a doesn't play uh due to this knee injury, I probably will just be out on the Saints.
26:07probably just out on this game that just like a lav not being in this game feels like I don't know how Tyler Shuck does
26:13enough with no lav um in in this spot.
26:17>> Well, I think the Lav is going to play, right? We that seems to be the consensus.
26:20>> I I mean, he got he did like he did limp off the field with the knee. So, like you you just I I would expect him to
26:27play. I mean, $7,700 like insanely difficult matchup, but the his volume has been insane. I mean, it's like he has double digit targets in
26:36every game. His lowest targets has been 10. He's got a 17. He's got a 13. Like I don't he he will not get played here
26:42again because the Detroit stuff. Um so which is is sort of interesting. And then I mean I guess we should talk about
26:49TJ Hawinson who that game last week. I I could not have been more annoyed uh by a game than what TJ was discussing last week. I mean, I
26:59played I was mostly pivoting to Strange, which first of all was proven stupid because everyone [ __ ] pivoted to Strange. So, it's like as soon as I saw
27:07the Strange's ownership, I'm like, "Oh, well, may as well just play TJ Hawinson.
27:11They have the same ownership now." And I just played the worst projecting guy.
27:14But then I'm like, "Oh, sweet. He actually got 16 points. So, even if I made a bad process play, the results
27:22sure worked out. Surely Hawinson won't get 16 points." Oh, no. He'll get like 26 points because Kyler Murray has like woken up this morning and he saw TJ
27:34Ainson's face and all he sees is Free McBride. So I I don't think that we're going to get that level of spam if
27:41Jefferson plays. Um and if Jefferson doesn't play, he's all the way at 4,800.
27:45So I think I'll be free from the shackles of TJ Hawinson regardless this week. But that was an infuriating experience to be rooting against last
27:53week. Just every >> could have been even worse, too. could have could have could have stuck it to us even worse kneeling instead of
28:00scoring the touchdown could end the game >> on offense. Yeah, that that was insanely frustrating. The Indianapolis Colts, your Indianapolis Colts traveling to
28:09play at the Pittsburgh Steelers. 45 point total here. I I would guess we get one more week. No, Rico. Rico with the
28:17toe injury. He was working off to the side on Wednesday. If Rico doesn't play, Jaylen Warren will be absolutely mega stone chalk. Probably very good chalk,
28:26too. I mean, he just has been uh the McCarthy McCarthy did say like, "Oh, we need to work the young guys in. We do
28:33need to get Travis Homer and Hiden Reich playing. I'm sure you do."
28:37>> Yeah, I'm I'm sure I'm sure they'll they'll think all well and good about that. And then what an insane let down
28:44from Joshua DS last week. I I that was that was that was painful to watch Lacoan Dreadwell frame mogging him, but
28:52I don't know. What do you expect from your team here?
28:55>> I expect them to lose. We always lose against Pittsburgh. They own us, especially in Pittsburgh. It's been, I think, like over 20 years since we've
29:02won a game in Pittsburgh. Uh massive rest disadvantage.
29:06Our starting center looks like he's going to miss this game. He's a total stud. Uh I I feel like it's going to be
29:13a bad time for the Colts, to be honest.
29:15Um the I I I wish Josh Downs was in 6K.
29:20Like typically you'd hope to see, >> you know, some level of flop lag that doesn't require a 6K price tag because I
29:27I would like to get back in on Josh Downs after he just gave everyone a lump of coal um when everyone was super
29:34excited to start him. But I don't think I'm going to be that interested in playing him at 6K. So, the only start
29:40probably that I would want to make here would be like Jonathan Taylor in theory.
29:45Whether I get to him versus the other running backs, I don't know. And then Jaylen Warren. If Dowel misses, definitely. But if Dow plays then
29:53probably um probably not him either. So, I think it's just pure I think it's just Warren and then maybe Taylor.
30:02I mean, Taylor does feel again like there just are so few players who can score 30 fantasy points in a game. You
30:09know, it's basically like Gibbs, Walker, the elite receivers, you know, TJ Hawinson. These are these are real 30 point per game guys. I mean, Taylor
30:18clearly a guy who can score 30 or more points in a game. The Steelers, even if the Steelers dominated every single
30:24facet of the game, we know how the Steelers operate. They'll they'll never pull away, right? that that their pullaway percentage is zero. So, the
30:33Colts will still be able to run their stuff. I I I mean, it's one of the plays that again is on Thursday is kind of
30:38easy to talk about. I don't know if I can really get there. I mean, really, the only like core play from this game
30:45is Jaylen Warren, and he is like an insanely insanely good play.
30:50>> Totally.
30:51>> Yeah. Uh not not much from that game. I I'm with you. I would love to play Josh Downs. I think it's going to be hard for
30:57me to play Josh Downs at uh at at 6,000 given the the quality of other receivers. All right, a game that
31:05actually is quite interesting because there's so much up in the air. The Cincinnati Bengals traveling to play at Miami. They're eight and a half point
31:11favorites. So, as of today, Chase is questionable. T is questionable. My guess would be Chase does play. T Higgins doesn't play just because Chase
31:23gets to clear the concussion protocol.
31:25Teigans has a muscular injury that that the average uh miss for an NFL player is to miss one week with this adductor
31:33injury. And then Chase Brown basically I mean just could not be less efficient on the ground but keeps churning in the
31:39passing game. So you have Gasiki who you have to think about and then you know it's tempting to just jam in Door Dash
31:46door dash Dante but Kobby Young did not play last week probably is going to play this week. That mucks up the waters a
31:53little bit. I mean, this is this is legitimately a hard spot to figure out, I think.
31:59>> Um, I think that Dante has shown the most, so I think he'll like earn >> being the highest projected, but like if
32:07it's if we get the chance to play Dante without Higgins or Chase or Antonio Williams without Diggs or McLaren, that's not even close to me. I would way
32:17rather play Antonio Williams. And I wouldn't be surprised if the projections like actually prefer Dante a little bit just because of the team total stuff,
32:24but I would just way rather bet on, you know, I'm I'm very sure that Antonio Williams is a materially higher talent
32:32than Trayon Burks or Dami Brown. I'm not really that sure whether Dante Myers is a materially better talent than uh Mitch
32:40Tinsley or or Kobby Young or whatever.
32:44like it's a kind of kind of a who knows.
32:47Like Dante Myers happened to be the guy last week. He was kind of the last man standing. I would assume he's the best
32:53of the bunch. Like I don't I'm not saying I want to play Mitch Tinsley, but it's it's kind of a who knows situation
32:59in Cincinnati. And I could I could totally see the targets going um towards someone unexpected. I do think people are definitely going to do
33:08what I suggested doing in Washington that I didn't think people were going to do there here where a ton of people are
33:13going to play Micah Sikki historically.
33:15Um he has had really strong outputs when at least one of Chase or Higgins miss. I think people will expect him to here. I
33:23think that's probably correct. Um so I I think we're going to see a lot of cheap Cincinnati Bengals. I think it's
33:30warranted. Uh, it's hard for me to have like very strong opinions on which ones I would play now because we just don't
33:36have enough information on Jason Higgins injuries. We definitely don't have enough information on like all the other injuries and what the alternatives would
33:43be if you want to spend down. So, I'm I'm open-minded to it, but we'll see. On the on the Miami side, I probably won't
33:53play anyone. Uh, maybe Malik Washington would be probably the most interesting to me. Um, I don't think I'll actually play Olly Gordon. I I know he he had a
34:02really fun game last week. Thought he ran pretty well.
34:05>> Wasn't Wasn't even really that fun in terms of the usage. He just had like basically had like two really good runs.
34:11>> Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think he did enough that he will like start this week. He actually didn't last week. It
34:16was Jaylen, right? It was just Ollie kind of got more work as the game went.
34:19>> Was going to start this week. Yeah, he just played so much better, >> right? So, I think he earned enough to
34:24like be the lead back. But I also like think it's not out of the question that you know I think they plan to start
34:30Jaylen Wright last week Oie changed that plan by playing better. Like is it impossible that this week Olly Gordon plays the first series gets completely
34:38stuffed and then they right a series and he pops a 25 yard run like that's not impossible. So we could just see the
34:45exact reverse play out that played last week. I don't think that's the most likely outcome but it's in the realm of
34:50possibility. So, um, and and you know, Ollie is still facing all the same issues that Devon Chan fa faced environmentally. Um, so I'm not going to
35:00be playing him. It would be it would be Malik Washington maybe. And then I don't know, like this is like a completely
35:06wild play, but how how much do you trust the Bengals defense just being completely unwilling to stop tight ends?
35:13Would you could you ever like talk yourself into a crazy Greg Doulich play?
35:17>> No. No, I couldn't. I I mean maybe in like you know super Millie Maker style fields or or whatever I could do it. So
35:26I think the question you have to ask is if just just assume one of the Bengals star receivers is in. Is there going to
35:34be enough passing volume that you really want to play whichever one that it is right? Will will the Bengals have enough
35:40dropbacks? I think the answer to that is yes. There was a good quote Burrow the the the Bengals beat writers were asking
35:46Burrow like about like the run pass blitz or whatever like oh Chase Brandon only got eight rushes and Burrow is like
35:51yeah I think we need to throw it more.
35:53So I I actually think the answer to that question is yes. Then I think on top of that thing you then have to say is
35:59normally Bengals double stacks do not project that well because it uses so much salary. You know T and Chase just taking so much of the salary. But with
36:07Dante Myers and Kaziki that problem is now alleviated. So then does Burrow, Chase, Cassiki, Burrow, T Meyers, whatever. And then do you have a real
36:18preference between Meyers and Gassiki based on which one of the receivers misses? That's that's probably too much ball for me to know between like, oh, if
36:26T misses, Gassiki does this thing really well, or if Chase misses, Dante Myers does. Like that that's too much. Like I'd have to I don't know, consult
36:35someone who really watches the film to know that, I think.
36:39>> Yeah. My I think my inclination would be to probably play like the the expensive wide receiver that's still playing in Giki. Um just
36:51because then you get to fill tight end, but that might be what everybody does.
36:54So it's it's like I don't know. It's it's this is a this is a tough one to have strong opinions on on Thursday
37:02because there's just going to be so much stuff that's going to change between now and then. But I mean I the one thing I
37:08would definitely do is like I even at high ownership I'm probably going to be very interested in playing uh Chase without TE or especially T without
37:17Chase.
37:18>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm in. I'm in on that. All right. Moving to the next game. The Las Vegas Raiders traveling to the couple
37:27interesting things here. Firstly, the return of Drake May playing quite well.
37:318 for 54. Sure wish it was 8 for 56 as a rusher. um after last week then you know Genty is either really bothered by this
37:41ankle injury or he is just Trent Richardson because the volume for him is crazy good. I mean even last week 16
37:49rushes I think seven targets in the passing game. Like he his usage actually as a receiver has been one of the big
37:55improvements from last year in terms of the way he is being deployed. And then all the Patriots receivers are cheap. M.
38:04Collins, I would say, is trending towards being out. So, you've got $3,500 Demario Douglas, $3,200 Eton Chisum, Kyle Williams is free. And then Raandre
38:14is a legitimate doubt to play with an ankle injury. So, it's just like there's a bunch and then also maybe the Patriots
38:21just suck and it was one week thing because the Bills defense is bad. Like what a what a weird weird football team
38:27the New England Patriots are. Uh yeah. I mean, if if Reandre misses, then Henderson at $5,000 is a total smash play. Even though I've like completely
38:36given up on the idea of him being good.
38:38He just he just is. He'll get all the touches and he'll he's 5K and he's really fast, so he'll probably break one
38:43for a long run. Um he he would just be a good play. Um I I am still in the camp that I think Genty is good. I thought he
38:52looked amazing week one. I thought he looked clearly not that healthy week two and week three. I thought he looked way
38:58better in week four. Um I I thought he had a lot of really strong reps in week four. So I probably am pretty interested
39:05in playing him at what I suspect is not going to be very high ownership. So he would be one of my favorite like
39:12lowerowned high dollar running backs.
39:15And then the only Patriot that I will probably consider playing would be Henderson if Stevenson is out. And then if if they have a bunch of wide receiver
39:25injuries, I probably just get to Hunter Henry.
39:28I don't I think I would my I I feel my slappy senses like tingling and drawing me into playing Eftton Chisum the third
39:37if if Max does not play.
39:39>> I won't be doing that.
39:40>> That just feels Does it not just feel so Patriots like a real, you know, like the like let's return to our roots and let's
39:46give uh a white receiver who has a weird number. Let's just like really emphasize that guy in in the passing game. And and
39:54I mean, you know what, Pop Douglas actually just kind of always gets there in these spots where it's like by hook
40:00or by crook. He finds his way to run 71% of the odds. I mean, I just don't think this will be that good of a game. Both
40:05these teams would prefer to run the ball. I if if Genty comes in truly truly unowned here in a slate that does not
40:13have um does not have Bejian Robinson, does not have Kenneth Walker, like you know the the scoring profile for McAffrey is much different now uh this
40:23year than it has been in years past. I'm I'm probably pretty into finding a way to play Genty. And I don't know, man.
40:29What do you think? Is he Trent Richardson or is the ankle still bothering him?
40:32>> I I I mean I think he played really well last week. I I I legitimately think he looked good. So, I I don't really I
40:38don't think he's Trent Richardson. I do think the ankle bothered him a lot week two and week three. I thought he looked
40:42better and healthier in week four than he had either the previous two weeks.
40:46And I think he looked fantastic in week one. I I I'll be it's it's odd like when I was coming up um you know, I I was
40:54like at the forefront of the play poll Zeke socks crowd. Feels like now six years later, whatever it is, I I've
41:02completely flipped around to everybody wants more Mike Washington. And I I'm I'm a pretty big Genty guy, but I I don't think he's Trent Richardson. I I
41:10continue to think he's quite a good running back.
41:13>> Yeah, I I also agree with this, but like I just my my progenty propaganda has been falling on uh deer and deafer ears
41:22uh as the season continues and as Mike I mean, frankly, part of the deal is Mike Washington, I don't know if you've
41:27noticed this about him, he he's very big. He's just like he's very striking physically. So you you really notice when he is in the game versus Genty.
41:37Genty is like a smaller, more compact running back. He also runs very upright.
41:41It's just >> it more so than most time, you know, like oh I'm watching a Titans game and like Pard and Spears kind of just look
41:48the same or or whatever, you know. Um but it's just very striking when Mike Washington Jr. is in the game versus
41:55Genty. And I just wonder if that is is one of the things the the aesthetics of it. The Cleveland Browns traveling to
42:01play the New York Football Jets. The Jets are our marginal favorites here.
42:06Brillan Allen has gotten every touch, every touch when Bree Hall is not in the game. Um there no Isaiah Davis, no Kenna
42:15and Wangu, no Andrew Beck, none of that.
42:18And Edy Mitchell not going to play in this game. Kenyan Sadi saw a slight salary decrease after uh the just the
42:25overall wet fart that was the Jets offensive effort last week. There's a real buy spot on the Jets. Garrett Wilson will not be popular. Brilan Allen
42:34will will certainly not be 21% on as is displayed here. Um Kenyan Sadi will not be played and really if anyone gets
42:41played from this game it will probably be Mr. Chudkins. He he will probably be the only guy who gets played my guess. I
42:50don't think Brilin will get played. I really don't.
42:52>> I think I think Oh, really? I think Bril's gonna get absolutely jammed.
42:56>> Okay. All right. Well, go off.
42:57>> I think it's gonna be the classic very annoying DFS situation where last week people didn't really have a full grasp
43:06of the inputs and there was disagreement on how much work to give Isaiah Davis and I was of the belief that the inputs
43:13were wrong. I played Brilan like multiple points higher in projection. I thought he was going to get all the touches. I was right and then they ran
43:2131 plays and so I didn't get any reward for being correct. And then I think this week if I want to play him off of a
43:28nine-point game at the same price now everyone will have the same inputs of him playing 90% of the snaps and I
43:36expect him to be like 25% owned. Now, maybe that changes if misses and we get 5k Trevian on Henderson and like we get
43:44a bunch of other cheap running backs, but like without multiple other injuries, I think Brilin is going to be absolutely jammed. And I'm I'm down to
43:52do it. Um like to a point, we'll see how far far the ownership gets, but like going into the week, I will be playing
44:00him a lot.
44:02>> You know what? I I I was actually giving the field not enough credit, but you're so right. this will be this will be the
44:09spot where people are just like I don't care about you know how many fantasy points or whatever he scored last week
44:14he projects good there's not a ton of value I mean we haven't gotten there yet I'm sure we'll spend a lot of time
44:18talking about it but the whole context of the slate you have to filter it through this which is that Jir Gibbs is
44:259,800 DraftKings dollars and he is the only skill position player on the slate who projects for more than 20 points um
44:33I guess JS JSN might be close like Gibbs ownership at 9800 will be greater than 40% in most contests. Maybe that might
44:42even be low, >> especially because there's so many ways to shave shave salary off.
44:47>> Yeah. So, you have to filter the whole slate through like, okay, what type of pieces make sense with that being the
44:53way most people are building and Brilen Allen fits quite cozily next to a $9,800 Jir Gibbs. I I I was about to mention
45:02Gino, but as I'm thinking through this, I actually think >> agent Well, Beent. I I think Beeent actually makes more sense. I I played a
45:11little bit of >> I played a little bit of Beg last week and frankly, I mean, he's pretty good at just keeping the ship upright. He runs a
45:19little bit like he's mobile. He could he could pip a rushing touchdown pretty easily. I I I think Bean is probably
45:25Bean over Gino would be my way to play uh a cheap a cheap quarterback. I think >> I'm with that. I'll also shout out uh
45:33Casey Convion at $4,200. Like I I could see a world where there's a lot of ownership on Dante Meyers, a lot of
45:40ownership on Antonio Williams. I would say if you want to just find an extra $400, you could just play a first round draft
45:48pick with a really strong prospect profile who also sees a ton of targets even, you know, without any injuries on this team. Um, and so I I think he might
45:59be a guy that I probably go to quite a bit as a way of getting off some of these like really chalky vacated targets
46:07plays and just just just playing I think a stud wide receiver who's barely more expensive.
46:12>> Yeah, I'm I'm completely I'm completely with that. I Casey Conpion actually is an awesome play here. Um, that that's that's an angle that I want to be
46:21chasing this week. I I think you're you hit the nail on the head here. All right, the Denver Broncos traveling to
46:27play at the uh Walking Dead Los Angeles Chargers.
46:32>> Sounds like >> worst vibes game in the NFL this week.
46:36>> Neither team has any good vibes.
46:38>> Well, it's happening. Uh according to according This is actually very funny.
46:42Brandon Stokeley said that Shawn Pton is taking the uh the the the play calling back this week and then >> basically hasn't been confirmed by
46:51anyone from the team yet, but Shawn Payeyton has his media availability later today where he probably will say, "Oh, you know, I'm going to help uh
47:00Davis this week. I'll be doing X," which means Shawn Peyton's taking the play calling back. That that's just my guess.
47:05So that's that's probably Well, is that good or bad? because it's bad to already make that decision four games into the
47:13season, but Shawn Peyton is a pretty good play caller. So, so I don't I don't know what you do with that.
47:17>> I I like there's been a couple of weird play calling stuff. I I don't think that most of the issue is the play calling. I
47:22think most of the issue is Bon Knicks has just been playing like ass.
47:24>> So bad. Yeah.
47:26>> Like he he just has not played well.
47:28However, Bon often goes through stretches of playing like ass. He is particularly bad at the beginning of seasons. And like as
47:37a person who was hopeful that Bo Nicks was going to take a major leap this year, that's that's I guess not going to
47:42happen. But do I think that Bo Knicks can just get back to being like the streaky but overall relatively average quarterback he used to be? Like yeah, I
47:54I do. I don't see why he can't. Um so I would expect him to be better than he's been so far this year over the rest of
48:01this year for sure. But I don't expect him to like take that leap into top 10 quarterback status that I thought was
48:09potentially on the table before the year started. Um, this game is pretty gross. Um, like
48:20the only Bronco skill player that I think is like a DFS viable player in a vacuum is Waddle. The $6,100 price tag
48:27is pretty rough.
48:29Um, the Chargers are a total disaster. Their running backs are completely unplayable.
48:36I mean, maybe Katon Mitchell, but at $4,500 is like actually kind of playable. He's basically their lead back now. He gets the most touches. He gets
48:43like the most fun snaps.
48:45>> I was going to say he gets the he gets the like swing pass, the wheel routes or or whatever. I mean, that is the that's
48:51the key stuff. And I guess, you know what, I I should I should say too, um, you know, there's a lot, like I just
48:59said with with KC, like there's a lot of cheap wide receivers out there in the 3K range. If you just go a little bit
49:05higher, you know, we could get Trey Harris without Lad Mccon at 4,100. And it's like, do I want to play what's
49:12Dante Myers? He 38 this week. I think he's 38. Um, like if if I'm if I'm forced to play Dante Meyers, you know,
49:20who's a guy I just learned about last week >> at like quadruple the ownership of Trey Harris, who's $300 more, like I don't
49:29know. I I would probably rather play Trey Harris at a significant ownership discount there. So, it's hard to have takes on these cheap receivers until we
49:36actually see how the ownership is distributed and who's in, who's out.
49:39But, um, I guess I think Trey Harris would probably be a pretty solid play.
49:44I I think that would be probably the only guy that I play.
49:47>> Uh I'm with you actually. I I started out as a Trey Skeptic. Trey Harris skeptic as a prospect. I This is I don't
49:57even know how this happened. Jacob Trey Harris is like my ninth most drafted player in baseball without having a a severe opinion about him at all. So like
50:06I'm very locked in to Trey Harris doing well. I've got a I've got a take that um I I'm pondering Mr. Wadd being my gold
50:15star play. No, Pat Bryant. Have >> fun with that.
50:18>> And Wadd has shown I mean clearly he's shown flashes of being the guy that we remember. Were Bo Knicks to get his
50:29swagger back. I certainly don't think that's coming via Courtland Sutton. Uh the I think Courtland Sutton, man. Poor one out. pour one out for Courtland
50:38Sutton. But like Wadd and Harvey are the only two things that are working in any way in the Broncos offense like in any
50:46way, shape, or form. And the Harvey stuff really if if your running back has a 20% target share, that is actually a
50:52symptom of a sick patient. Not you know, like that. That's not It's not good.
50:57It's not good that R.J. Harvey has 10 catches every time the Broncos play anyone who's any good at all. But I
51:04don't know. Can you can you talk me into or out of Waddle as a as a gold star here?
51:09>> Uh he wouldn't be my gold star, but I hope that you're right. So, I'm not going to talk you out of it because I I
51:14have a lot of best ball bags on Jaylen Waddle. Uh I mean, it's not a terrible play. Like, his his usage has
51:21been fine. Um he's had two decent weeks.
51:24He's had two terrible weeks. At least the last three weeks in a row he's had he's had adequate usage. So, I I think
51:32it's fine. But uh >> so dark this whole >> it's just it's just bleak and I I just I
51:42could see this game just being a total punfest.
51:45>> Total total punfest. Yeah. I mean um >> I just imagine that if I start multiple players of this game, I'm imagining like
51:54check I'm imagining being like, man, I haven't seen this game on red zone in a while. Like what's going on over there?
51:59And it's like oh it's 63. There's six minutes left in the third quarter >> and Tyler Tyler has five fantasy points.
52:06>> Tyler Benedet has three receptions.
52:07Kamani Videll has five rushes. Yeah, I mean that is that is how it's going to go.
52:13>> So here's I mean this is not DFS related, but they let's say let's say they lose this game, which I think the
52:18Chargers are going to lose this game. I mean how many games can you keep all of these coaches employed?
52:24>> I I have no idea. I I mean it's got to be getting light quick on the Mike.
52:31>> I would assume I would assume Harbaugh probably has enough aura as like a as like just who he is that he is
52:38>> he wouldn't get fired mid-season but a Mike McDaniel in season firing is starting to feel more and more likely by
52:43the day.
52:44>> It's it's probably a question of how much Harbaugh likes McDaniel. Like if he finds his whole deal >> he likes him less and less.
52:52>> I'm Yeah. Yeah. I It's It's insane. Um, >> are you gonna find Mike McDaniel charming when you're winning?
52:59>> When when you're when you're doing a zone read where you loop the wrong way for the handoff >> so that the quarterback has to read
53:07someone that they can't see cuz they're like looking over their shoulder. Then then all of a sudden the khakis and the
53:12flip-flops and the cliches I think would start to grate on you pretty quick.
53:17>> Real real quick. San Francisco Seattle a game that you could really tell me went either way. You could tell me classic
53:26NFC West divisional game. They're just tra they're just punching each other in the face. It's 13-10. Like it's awful.
53:33Or JSN, you know, could just a guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy guy can
53:38speed the game up himself. Perie is playing like at like honestly an unbelievable level. I I've been a pro perie guy but he has been un I mean I
53:46think clearly if the season like if the season ended today he would be the MVP for sure, especially considering all their injuries. Another week for Mike
53:52Evans's ribs to get healthy. Emanuel Wilson only 5,300 DraftKings dollars.
53:58Debo 5,500. I I'm probably out on CMC at 8,200. Like very tough matchup for them.
54:04I mean, talk me into this game going over the total cuz like it's pretty condensed offenses. The, you know, pretty JSN Mike Evans or or Pretty JSN
54:14Debo correlations, you know, whatever.
54:16It feels could all be good. Yeah, I think this game goes over the total. Um or at least very well could. Like the
54:23San Francisco 49ers offense I think can score. Well, I was about to say on anyone they haven't scored on Mike McDonald.
54:30>> Yeah, >> like Mike McDonald has owned this offense recently. Um they got obliterated in the playoff game. They scored I think what was it three or six
54:40points in that game for the one seed last year at the end of the regular season. So maybe that's the caveat, but I think
54:49it's at least possible that they can score on pretty much anyone. And then the Seahawks have let Sam Darnold cook a
54:55little bit this year. They they've they've really built things even more around JSN. I think that makes sense given that their running back room is
55:02diminished. So I could see a world where it's a pretty explosive back and forth type of game. Absolutely.
55:10Favorite plays in it. Like I think Wilson is totally fine. I like Brilland Allen more. Um I just like to roll more
55:18and I think that they'll run more than 30 plays this week in a game against the Cleveland Browns.
55:24Um but I I would be interested in finding ways to spend up for JSN for sure if I can. And then on the 49ers
55:31side, I don't know that this will be a McAffrey week for me, which means probably it's the week that he scores a
55:36ton of points. Um probably.
55:39>> Yeah.
55:40>> Yeah. I It's tough. Like I don't really love any of the San Francisco plays individually. So maybe it's it's a spot
55:45where like I have one lineup where I just stack them up and then I ignore them otherwise.
55:51>> I I really want to talk myself into this game just because of all the games we've been through, this has the greatest
55:59accumulation of good coaching, good players, good good just like ways that it can be sped up, ways that it can be a back and forth game. And I
56:10mean, even if you disagree with me and like you you you the listener, you the viewer, >> like if you have an angle this week on a
56:19game, you should take it because the chalk apocalypse that is going to descend upon Detroit, Arizona is going to be the likes of which we have never
56:26seen, which I guess we can go ahead and close the program with that. 54 and a half total. Uh Detroit is favored by
56:32five.
56:32>> So you've got Gibbs, >> I don't know, 40%, right? You got McBride 20 to 30%. You've got golf percent. These will be the two most
56:42known quarterbacks of slate. St. Brown, Michael Wilson, his ownership could actually get higher than Gibbs is. He could end up being I mean he could
56:51Michael Wilson at $6,200 on DraftKings.
56:53He might end up he could be the most played wide receiver of the year. This this his ownership of this buy this
56:59>> crazy how played he is.
57:01>> Uh 11 and 17 targets the most recent two weeks. Then you got Leaporta J Mo. I mean this is uh Peter said this on the
57:08SW cast projects for 8% ownership shows up at 18%. Absolutely obvious.
57:13>> Absolutely.
57:15>> It depends on what type of quotes we get from the coaching staff on Jeremiah Love as we get a little bit closer. He was
57:21Giga Chock last week. I I guess he still does find a way to get played a little this week, although obviously much less
57:28than he would have had he gotten 25 touches last week. I mean b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b
57:31b b b b b b b b b b b b b basically the deal with love is that he reinjured or
57:34or injured his other ankle in that game last week and then Algier ended up playing a ton, but now they say he's
57:39healthy coupled with the very odd quote where he said it's going to be the longest year of my life in in the
57:45postgame stuff. That was just a very weird quote. Here's before we get into like all the specifics of this game. I I
57:50have a question for you that's going to be very hard to answer. Is this game going to be so chalky that one Mr.
57:57Marvin Harrison Jr. finds a way to get played by DFS players.
58:00>> I was I was just going to say there's one guy who will not get played.
58:07I mean, he's going to run a lot of routes. He's you get some end zone targets.
58:13>> A lot of outs. Yeah.
58:14>> You know, like that's one option. Oh, man. This game is going to be this game's going to be wild. I'm I'm really
58:23thinking about how to handle this because there's not really anywhere to hide. like every single one of the main contributors are going to be heavily
58:31owned. Um, and then the issue is like, you know, you could you could do like some creative stacks, but what are you
58:41getting out of that, right? So, like if you try to sneak up on people and you're like, I'm going to play,
58:47you know, the Jacobe Brassette, J Mo, Marvin Harrison stack, it's like, well, you're giving up a bunch of projection points to do it. You're probably still
58:59going to get a bunch of ownership on Jacobe. You're still going to get ownership on JO.
59:04Um, you know, the Marvin Harrison is going to be dependent on Jacobe. like they're going to be dependent on the game
59:09environment anyways, which is going to mean that the higher projected players are probably still going to do well.
59:14Like I feel like the only really good options are either you just lean into it, you just play the game, you just play one of
59:23the good stacks that everybody's going to play. The nice thing is there's so many good plays that even by playing the
59:29chalk pieces, there's like several different versions of chalk stacks of this game, right? Like you can do, you know, Jacobe Wilson Gibbs. You can do
59:39Jacobe McBride Gibbs. You can do Jacobe McBride Almond Rock off like doubles.
59:44Like there's like a million different versions of chalk stacks of this game.
59:48Um now the the annoying part about that is like if you're right about how to play the slate, which is just play the
59:55chalk just right Arizona stack, you have to pick the right one. Um, and there's going to be so many different versions
60:02that like good luck picking the right one, you know. Um, so that's one way to play is you just you just play it like
60:10everybody else. You hope you pick the right one. The other option I think is you play only one of the running backs. So you play
60:18only Gibbs or only Love. Love I don't think is going to be that owned. So that's probably my favorite that like
60:23that that might love with a full practice will be my gold star play because even if he does get un even if
60:31he gets more owned than is justified at least with him like his production is coming directly at the expense of McBride and Michael
60:41Wilson and Jacobe Brassette. So at least you're getting something for what you you get. and Gibbs is I think less clearly that because he's got so much
60:49pass work, but at least like you know he's scoring touchdowns, especially rushing touchdowns. That's taking touchdowns away from golf almond, golf
60:57Laorta, golf JMO, whatever. So I think that that's one way to play it. And the other way to play it is just you just
61:02ignore the game and you just pray for variance. You're just like, you know what? I'm going to pick a different game
61:08that's going to outscore this game.
61:10That's possible in in, you know, it's possible that happens. I don't know what game it is. All the other games mostly
61:17suck. Um, but it's possible and there's going to be some values in other games because of the injuries.
61:25Um, so I think if I was to rank my favorite ways of doing it, I think number one would be just play the
61:32running backs.
61:34Number two is probably just play this game and hope to get the right stack.
61:39And number three would be ignore it. But that like my least favorite version is like try to do a fancy little Marvin
61:47Harrison stack that no one sees.
61:48>> That's for sure the that's for sure the worst way to do it. Worst way to play this game. Here's here's a way to play
61:54this game that will result in you easily losing money. Jared Goff, Jameson Williams, Marvin Harrison Jr. like you're you congrats. You could send me
62:03that money instead. instead of instead of putting that in the spy, uh, donate that to, you know, a charity that like
62:09helps solve children's cancer or something because you will not be generating any US dollars with with that one. I mean, I frankly I think the the
62:18the most tenuous shock to me feels like Michael Wilson just because like Michael Wilson could just have eight for 80, you
62:25know, and and just not be like be a fine play but but just be way way overowned.
62:31Um I actually going through this I wonder if the best play is St. Brown because so many people will opt for
62:38Gibbs over St. Brown. People will play Michael Wilson instead of St. Brown.
62:43Some percentage of lineups will have J Mo instead of St. Brown. Some percentage of lineups will have St. Brown and JO.
62:49JMO's coming off, you know, basically his only bad game of the season. I I do wonder if St. Brown maybe ends up closer
62:57to like 19% than 30%, you know, and and that obviously makes him a a phenomenally good play. Um I I want to
63:06get obviously like a little bit more reporting and stuff before before we get there, but I I'm very open to your
63:12Jeremiah Love idea because it does feel like he bas like B he basically just ran bad last week is what happened. Like he
63:19basically just like an in-game injury.
63:20It can happen to anybody, >> right? He got the first six carries. He had 43 yards on those. like it looked
63:25like we were just going to get a great roll and then Alier kind of comes in for a change of pace carry immediately gets
63:31a touchdown whatever and then he gets hurt in that second quarter he starts to play less he reagravates it in the
63:36fourth quarter he doesn't play the last 17 snaps like if if that was just isolated to that game then I don't
63:43really care and I'm really really excited about playing the third overall pick at probably depressed ownership in the best game of the week like but I
63:53need that full practice If it's if it's limited all week, if it's Q tag, then I then I'm expecting it to be a split. Um, and then I'm I'm
64:03probably not going to want to delve into that too deeply, but give me a full practice on Friday. No injury designation, gold star.
64:14>> All right, there we go. You love to see it. Uh, let's go ahead and build our our millionaire maker lineup. And uh as
64:23always, comment down below your gold star play. And if uh if we win, I will send you $10,000 American dollars or
64:30I'll send one of the winners $10,000 American dollars. Jacob, uh where would you like to begin this lineup?
64:38All right. Um well, do we Let's see. Do we want to do the I I'll leave it in your hands. cuz I
64:48won't pick a quarterback. So, I'll leave it in your hands as whether we do the Detroit, Arizona thing or not. Um, but I
64:54will just go ahead and click Luther Burden.
64:58>> Wow. Luther Burden. I mean, what a beautiful way to start this. Um, Luther Burden, that is good with me. I'm I'm
65:07going to take >> Yeah. I I'm going to take us in a a weird direction here. Um, you know what?
65:14Actually, what I'm going to do is I'm going to go you you you ased my concerns. I I'm going to give us Ashton
65:21Genty at 7200 and I'm going to stamp Ashton Genty in a weird running back slate with my with my gold star uh lock
65:29play of the week. Ashton Genty.
65:31>> Okay. All right. I will play uh All right. I'll I'll gold star it up here. I'm just going to assume the best
65:39for health and we'll play Jeremiah Love.
65:43>> All right. weird. This is gonna be a weirdo lineup because t this is not going to be how things are played this
65:49weekend. I I you know what is becoming very popular. People are are becoming very woke to this.
65:55>> But tight end in the flex is becoming so so so in vain. That's not what I'm going to do. I'm going to give us uh the 14th
66:04most fantasy points for the first four games of a season ever in National Football League history owned by Jir Gibbs. I will be taking that guy for
66:139,800 DraftKings dollars.
66:16>> Okay, the double RB lineup. Um, okay.
66:19I'm I'm assuming in this double RB lineup then that the Cardinals probably play from ahead a little bit. Um, so what do I want to do now?
66:30>> If we're if we do not take Michael Wilson, we can literally play whatever chalk we want.
66:35>> Well, we already we already kind of have been playing whatever we want. So, let's just let's just play Michael Wilson.
66:40We've already gotten off the beaten path a bit. Let's just play Michael Wilson's vegetable.
66:44>> All right. I I'm going to go what I think is an angle that as we work through the show that I got more hip to.
66:50I I'm taking Teabag. I'm going to put Mr. Beent in at quarterback. That's actually one thing. I meant to mention this in the Detroit Arizona, but this is
66:58actually the classic Jacobe Brassette and Jared Gothang. is like very unique to these two gentlemen where their pass catchers are easily optimal and then
67:08neither of them even sniffs 25 fantasy points. I I think a great way to play this game is to use pieces from it and
67:16do not use Jared Goff and do not use Jacobe Brassette.
67:20>> Yeah, I think that's totally fine. Um it's it's very easy to envision them having like 22 23 and the game goes off
67:28but they don't run at all and the you know some of the some of the touchdowns go to the running backs. So I I agree
67:33with that. Um I have no idea if this leaves us enough salary at tight end to do how let's let's tight end tab.
67:43>> Yeah, I slotted in the Jets defense.
67:46>> Okay, because I know who I want to play.
67:48Um, but is there a $2,700 tight end that would allow me to do it? It doesn't look like it.
67:56>> No, cuz even even Doulich is 3100. So, >> um I I will let's I I'll just pick a tight I'll pick
68:06Chigga Conquo and this is under the assumption that there are multiple injuries in Washington. And then uh I'll leave you the the wide receiver pick.
68:15>> Man, this is this is so dark. I wanted to play Matthew Golden, but we didn't have enough salary left to
68:20>> We don't We don't have enough. All right. So, if we >> unless Unless we can go down to like >> Oh, look. We did it. Uh Casey, who both
68:29of us >> get conqu out of there. Let's play a real tight end now.
68:32>> And then now we can play.
68:34>> Now we can play Giki. There we go.
68:35Perfect.
68:36>> Honestly, this team >> probably will not sim too great because Conpion does not project very well.
68:43Everyone else in this lineup projects very well outside of Conpsion. I mean, it's a little bit of a funky It's a
68:49little bit of a funky overall construction, but um I do like it. Tyson Beagent, Ashen Genty, Jeremiah Love, Luther Burton III, Michael Wilson,
69:01Casey Conpion, Mike Siki, Jir Gibbs, and the Jets defense. Um I uh I I quite I quite enjoy this.
69:10>> Absolutely. Enjoy it. Enjoy doing this as always with you. And uh we'll see you on Sunday for the shipcast. Yeah. Yeah.
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