0:00the man, the myth, the legend. Sammy Reed decided, "Hey, man. I'm going to go touch grass." And I said, "Hey, the
0:05people have always wanted Adam Levitan on the show for Approve it week." You know, they get Peter on in week 18. But
0:12he makes a mockery of God's game, Adam.
0:14He really does. He doesn't take it seriously. He doesn't know that from Tuesday till Sunday morning, we are grinding to a nub every decimal trying
0:23to decide between Kendrick Bourne, Antonio Williams, and uh and uh Roman Wilson. We're saying, is this a McBride week? Is it not a McBride week? We're
0:33reading the training camp reports. We're we're in the weeds, Adam, and I don't appreciate what Peter does to our beautiful game.
0:40>> It's insulting, but it does drum up a lot of action for week 18, which I always appreciate. you know, in these
0:44streets these days, anybody who is willing to drum up action for cash is good in my book.
0:52>> That's true. That's true. It was uh I mean, basically the the the most straightforward imaginable week in uh in
1:00in cash games, the the must plays were DeAndre Swift, Jir Gibbs, Jacobe Brassette. I thought I thought those were the must must plays. My want play,
1:11well actually my want play, Adam was Jaylen Warren. There was really no way to make it work though. There was no way
1:18to get Jaylen Warren in the Braille Allen spot. I I don't think Did you try and look at that?
1:23>> Uh yes. And I could not do it. But I actually went out of my way to play Jaylen Warren on FanDuel. Um and you
1:31know that was not like a lot of people played Aaron Jones um on FanDuel. And so yeah, that was good. You know, the
1:37Jaylen Warren was just guy is just so good and such a smash. But yes, on DraftKings, I did not see a clean way to
1:43get to Jaylen Warren. I considered even going to >> um over Swift, like Jaylen Warren over Swift. Like I thought Jaylen Warren was
1:50a way better play than Swift, but then you would have had to get off Jets defense. And you know, I thought Swift
1:56was was solid enough. So So yeah, you know, that's the advantage of playing both sites is like I don't beat myself
2:01up when um I don't have someone I really like on one site.
2:05>> There were there were a couple. So, they're work. I I'll admit I always like that. You can ask Le or you can ask
2:10Wiggins about this. I always do try and get a little bit creative to try and get to some of the the want plays before
2:15lock. So, I did look at a team that was uh Mr. Secret Begent at quarterback.
2:21>> Oh, no. And then it was Warren over Allen and then I don't remember who it got up but it got up to someone over
2:28Kendrick Bourne and then down to the Tennessee Titans of defense which obviously would have been I even with the Warren smash would have just been
2:36absolutely uh would would have been throttled. I did I will admit I did think about trying to mess with a Be
2:42agent mostly because and it's very funny to look at the results seeing that Michael Wilson got seven and Bourne got 12. I didn't really think that Marvin
2:50Harrison Jr. not playing. I I did not think it did absolutely anything to Kendrick Bourne a at all.
2:56>> Wait, I I see I I thought that Marvin Harrison gone was worse for Michael Wilson. Kendrick Bourne has a dick.
3:02Kendrick Bourne can earn targets. Marvin Harrison does not. I thought it was worse for Michael Wilson. I was still always playing him. And I can actually
3:08considered Michael Wilson a must at 6200 given the game environment, given his targets and given the way we had him projected. But yes, I thought it was
3:17worse for Marvin. Yeah, I just thought it meant Kendrick Bourne would be on the field more. So, yeah, I thought it was
3:22definitely better for Kendrick Bourne that Marvin Harrison was gone.
3:26>> Okay, so uh Kendrick Bourne had run 187 routes on the year and Marvin Harrison Jr. was on the field for 185 of them,
3:37which you can take that one of two ways.
3:39The one way, and this is the way I took it, was he's not going to run any more routes because he was already on the
3:45field with Marvin Harrison Jr. for all these routes. So, it wasn't like, oh, this guy's gonna go because the the classic DFS cheap receiver is what we
3:53did with Trey Harris, which is the guy who has a route ceiling who now, and it's funny because Trey Harris ends up
3:58getting injured. Although Trey Harris was actually going to have a great game, by the way, and I'm not even like a
4:03Char, you guys know I absolutely hate the Chargers. He was going to have a great game. He was targeted. like he was
4:09either targeted or um the first read on like six of their first 10 passing plays they did like uh they didn't end a round
4:17to him like they they tried they tried to get him the ball um it just you know he he's a charger so that means he got
4:24injured >> and he's not that good you know I mean but you know especially if Certan and Riley Moss were both playing I would
4:31have been like all right you know you want to do something other than Trey Harris maybe I can see that but given
4:36everybody that was out and Riley Mosan out. I'm totally fine with the with the Trey Harris play. I I think that was
4:43fine. I actually had him uh Yeah, I had him as a must also. Like I had literally six must on this. That might be a new
4:51record for me. I thought Gibbs, Brassette, Swift, Trey Harris, McBride, and Michael Wilson were all musts. And like anytime I think I I have that many
5:00guys I think are stone cold locks, like I know I'm going to win. I don't know if I've ever lost when I've had like four,
5:05five, six musts. Uh, >> so there you go. Uh, welcome to the program, Nate. There you go. Kendrick Bourne ran 32 routes. Michael Wilson ran
5:1344. Trey McBride ran 50. So Kendrick Bourne's role did not change, which I mean, isn't Jayen like isn't Jaylen Brooks's targets per route run going to
5:23be better than Marvin Harrison Jr.'s?
5:25Like I I'm not even I'm not even [ __ ] around. Like legit Jaylen Brooks might I'm sure in this game he has a better
5:31targets per route run than Marvin Harrison Jr. I played I played Kendrick Bourne obviously, but I did think it was the worst play of of the three receivers
5:40of Michael Wilson, Kendrick Bourne, and and Trey Harris.
5:44>> So, one thing about like and the 2v2 that I looked at was Bourne and Jets D versus Roman Wilson and
5:50>> Roman Wilson >> and Tit and Titans D. That was the one that I thought was somewhat close. But one thing that I think like in these
5:57spots when you play both Bourne and Wilson like you raise your floor, right?
6:02likely one of them or or both of them are going to fail in a spot like this.
6:06So, I thought you did raise your floor a bit by playing both of them. And obviously like people underrate Jets defense. I think we had a really nice
6:13projection on them. It was >> they were the third highest projected defense raw points of the whole slate.
6:18>> Yeah. And this dude David Bailey is like a huge hit for the Jets. So, you know, I thought I I never I try not to let
6:25defense like really sway me too much, but I thought it was close between Bourne and Wilson. So having the defense upgrade there I thought made sense.
6:32>> I mean Nate, I got to be honest, Kendrick Bourne does not seem like a Nate play. Like I felt like I felt like
6:38you were like begging to try and find your way to some you you were going to you were going to spend like honestly I
6:46thought you might show up with uh with with not Brassette. I I thought you might show up with Begent or Kyler or
6:52something in order to not play Kendrick Bourne. It's so not a Nate play. I mean, I didn't want to play Kendrick Bourne,
6:59but I I don't know. I mean, I I thought the build was just so obvious this week.
7:03As soon as as soon as the Marvin Harrison news came out, as soon as everything fell into place, there was just no getting off. I mean, I I don't
7:11know. I saw the Roman Wilson thing. I saw the uh Emanuel Wilson thing, but I I just felt so comfortable with this
7:17build. So, I don't know.
7:19>> I I was >> I don't like Kendrick Bourne, but the Trey Harris thing also might have been a little bit thin, too. So, I I don't know
7:26which one I felt worse about.
7:29>> Uh, I don't I don't think the I feel I feel fine about the the Trey Harris play. Like, he's I mean, look, he's
7:36attached to a shitty quarterback, so that is what it is. But that I mean, that game was It was also, I mean, we
7:44haven't even >> I just went all in on Trey Wilson. I had Trey Wilson everywhere, too. So, I had him in tournaments that Michael Wilson
7:49or Trey Harris. You just You just confused both. you just confused allow >> I had Trey Harris like everywhere.
7:56>> So I that that's the play that I feel the worst about today. But I I do think this Arizona offense is so concentrated
8:03with those guys.
8:04>> Uh >> and they have they're going to drop back 50 times every game. They're like they they're locked into it.
8:10>> That's the thing. It's it's 38-4 or whatever it was and they just keep dropping him back. I mean Troy Brassette
8:16came into this game averaging 41 drop backs a game this season. He was at more than that last season. He's like, they
8:21don't care, you know, like so it's a huge huge advantage to to have that.
8:26Obviously, >> most most teams, this is this is true.
8:30Most teams will just give up. They will just run the ball. They will get I mean this is this is like a huge problem with
8:36Jets players. This is a problem with Brown. This is a huge problem actually.
8:39If you are like a Carnell Tate guy, this big problem with Carnell Tate is they do not even though they're they start every
8:45game down 10 points. The Titans do not go back to immediate garbage time mode when they still try and run their
8:51offense. Like I think Jeremiah Love got 11 carries today with eight of them coming in the first half, I believe.
8:58Like they they don't even pretend to run a real offense and they and they keep going. I mean, McBride scored. What?
9:03Didn't McBride scored at the two-minute drill, like as the like [laughter] like it's an insane scam that Trey McBride has running here.
9:11>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was one of the most ridiculous catches I've seen, too.
9:14Just like meaningless garbage time, fourth down. One of the most ridiculous catches um I've ever seen. That was very expensive for uh Mr. Leone there as as
9:22the chalk kind of got there on him um late. But yeah, um yeah, it was good.
9:27>> Yeah, >> that was also a grown ass man catch. I mean, don't don't don't make it seem like that was some slop. That was
9:32awesome.
9:33>> Look, every everyone knows Trey McBride is really good, but I think we can all just be honest that like >> No, not everyone knows. People literally
9:41for five years thought that he couldn't score touchdowns because he had Kyler Murray as his freaking quarterback. You guys were trying to
9:48years.
9:48>> No, you know what? This is actually one of my my big big big pet peeves. They never let Kyler execute offense like
9:55this. They would they would get down and they would they would be still trying to run Zonaban Knight into the line. They
10:01never let they never let Kyler drop back 50 times in a game. They they they totally like Jacobe Brassette is running
10:08a [ __ ] sevenstep drop back offense from from the first kick. They would never let Kyler do that. I mean Kyler I
10:14don't think would be that good at it.
10:16But >> we we do need to talk about how low Trey McBride was owned in cash games. The fact that like it's 2026 week five and
10:25the the easiest play of the entire slate was only 60% owned in cash games is just >> dude >> unfathomable.
10:32McBride was more McBride was more owned than Gibbs. Gibbs is to me way >> I thought that I mean obviously I
10:39thought McBride was a stone cold lock in this slate context but Gibbs was less owned than McBride in double-ups.
10:45>> Yeah. This this ownership right here. So this is the big $50 double up. So 99 entries. This was the biggest GPP that
10:52was above $25 on the whole site. 999 entries. These are these are the people who um the these are the people who read
11:00Adam's cash game review article on ETR every Sunday night. These people should know better. I do. You know what, Levitan? That's actually a good
11:08shout. 66% Gibbs is the worst ownership in the history of the big $50 double up.
11:15I've never seen people play worse than this.
11:17>> He was our best value by a mile. He was also minus 450 to score anytime touchdown. Minus450 to score in the
11:24anytime touchdown market and like yeah he was easy to fit. So I mean yeah >> who do we who do we think the culprit
11:31was? What what what optimizer what optimizer who I mean well I I will say the blitz the blitz as well I was going to say I found
11:41our culprit >> I found our I found our culprit. Uh the blitz.com Amanro St. He's Amra St. Brown and Luther Burden over Kendrick Bourne
11:52and Jir Gibbs. There's your There's your culprit. I That's why >> I don't I think there's a lot of people uh even in that $50 single entry. I
11:59guarantee there's people on their phone taking a dump and putting in lineups. I >> I in the $50 single entry double up. You
12:05think they're phone [ __ ] bros, dude?
12:06How did they even find that contest?
12:08>> No, dude. There was a there was a build that had Aman Rah and uh Emanuel Wilson over >> Oh, we're going to Buddy. That's called
12:17This is called a dramatic reveal. I've been saving the Emanuel Wilson discussion.
12:21>> Yeah. Um Yeah. I I I think like these kind of slates are fine for for
12:30double-ups. I seeing this Gibb 66% makes me wish that I had played more doubsups, but typically when I think it's so
12:37obvious like I'm going to play as many headto-heads as >> No, this should be the worst type of slate for double ups where I don't think
12:44I don't think ever the three of us have all played the same team. Me, Nate, and Sammy all played the same team. I I
12:52truly I mean maybe it's happened once or twice. I I don't I don't think so, though. And then we just straight up
12:58onev1 you Levitan. And boy did we run hot because Manny Wilson was set to uh with his usage absolutely smoke
13:07Brilan Allen in that game but uh does does not get there because >> No. No.
13:16>> This is not a Brillin Allen got lucky.
13:18Brillin Allen is a legitimately better rusher.
13:21>> Agreed.
13:21>> Well, that that is true. Yeah. Brillin Allen legit had like eight missed tackles for us or something today. He was unbelievable,
13:31>> but he's a much better rusher. I mean, this is not a >> but this is not a Nate. I've I listen to
13:37the show like as much as I possibly can.
13:39This this is this is not a talent question when we're talking about one v1's at right. And by the way, if
13:44you want to put my team up against your team and then hide the players, you'll see everybody can see the one v one that
13:49we had. We had the exact same team except I played Manny Wilson. you guys played Brilen Allen. I I have three
13:55reasons or maybe four that I played Brilen Allen. I'm curious your guys take on these four reasons I played Manny Wilson over Brillin Allen. First, team
14:05level floor. Like Seahawks are going to be good. They're going to be competent.
14:09They're going to be scoring.
14:10>> 32 plays last week.
14:12>> The Jets are not like the Jets had 32 plays last week. Second, at the time that we went to lock, I was not sure
14:17that George Hani was going to be active.
14:19Our projection had Brilan and Emanuel Wilson dead even with Helani in. If Helani gets ruled out, we would have had Emanuel Wilson at least a couple more
14:28points clear of Brilen Allen. Third, there was talk during the week that they wanted to use Isaiah Davis more last week. However, Isaiah, they only got 32
14:37snaps off. Isaiah Davis didn't get to play a lot. And lastly, for the late swap, bro, Davis is like the king of
14:42over late swapping.
14:45You get the optionality if you play. So, I I still think I still think Emanuel Wilson's right. And if the if that
14:50punter catches the football, you guys are sucking my [ __ ] right now. You guys aren't you guys aren't gloating. If the if the punter
14:58catches the football, Brilen finishes with 12. He got the 100 yard bonus and the touchdown because the ball went through the punt.
15:04>> I see I see Brilen Allen getting 24 carries. 24 carries.
15:08>> Got the bonus, Levitan.
15:09>> He did not get the bonus. He would not.
15:11They would have had >> Yes, but but he >> They would have been in pass only. No, no, no. They would have been in pass
15:15mode because they were going to punt the ball deep into the jet zone and they would have been passing.
15:19>> Oh yeah, you're right. They were down.
15:20They were down.
15:21>> No, Adam, this is this is this is a bad take. At the end of the day, Brilin Allen at 5,400 with 24 rushing attempts
15:28and four targets and you faded him. This is one of those weeks. This is a week where it's I don't know who's who's who
15:35who came up with this, but it's a prove it week in cash. This is just let your opponents make a >> I came up with that. How many touches
15:41did Emanuel Wilson have, Nate? How many opportunities did Emanuel Wilson have >> it? I mean two yards carry two yards carry maybe
15:50>> 20 carries and two catches. This was a better miss tackles force. We're playing cash.
15:57You're talking about missed tackles force in a oneame sample of running back. Let's say the Jets get smoked in this game and Deshun Watson's been
16:03playing great. Let's say the Jet the Jets get smoked in this game. Or let's say the punter catches it. You're sitting there with an 11 ball from
16:09Brilen Allen because the Jets suck. You let the Jets run the Jets running bad last week with what 32 total plays and
16:16and that that was just clearly an anomaly. The Jets aren't going to have they'll play volume this week.
16:22>> Oh, I I agree. What happens if George Keani gets ruled out then then what do you say?
16:26>> Keani's ruled out. We're on the wrong side of it. I will say Wilson ran a little bit good in game
16:34because he did get benched and then Helani played worse than he did. He got benched for fumbling. I mean, frankly, like I say this a lot about a lot of
16:43players. I do think George Helani is probably the worst running back in the NFL. [laughter] Like, if you if you think about So, so there are 96 running
16:50backs, right? Because 32 teams each have three running backs. Helani is probably 96 of 96. It's him or Damen Pierce. Very
16:58It's very close um between between the two of them. Who who is uh legitimately worse? I thought about playing Wilson, but to the late swap thing, the issue
17:08with late swap is who you don't even need it because no one played in the early game. So, I was like, you're
17:14you're not actually getting any optionality because >> you I guess so in our lineup, the early guys were >> um if you if you don't include Brilen
17:25Allen, our early guys were were the Jets and Swift >> just Swift. Yeah, Swift and Jets.
17:30>> And you wouldn't have gotten enough information off that. I mean, I guess if the Jets got like one point, maybe you
17:34would think about doing something.
17:36>> I mean, there was 30% of the field that had the zero from Roman Wilson.
17:41>> If you played Okay, listen, dude. If you played Roman Wilson and Cash, you got no mojo, dude. You got zero mojo. No, none.
17:48None. I I can see it in tournaments, but if you played Roman Wilson and Cash knowing who Jeremy Bernard is, you got
17:55no mojo. I I would have played I would have played Jeremy um ahead of Roman, I think, in in Cash. Yeah, I I thought
18:02Roman was the the best argument for Roman was not like a data driven one at all. It was that Aaron Rogers has some
18:08liking to Roman Wilson that he does not have the Jeremy Bernard. That was a really thin argument considering sample size on the Roman Wilson stuff. So yeah,
18:17I I I didn't you know I don't think Roman Wilson was as bad as as you make it out to be, but yeah, I mean I'm
18:22obviously born side.
18:24>> I got I got saved. I will say I did get saved a little bit. I wanted to play Antonio Williams over Kendrick Bourne
18:31with no Stefan Diggs and with McLuren on the snap count and I I 100% would have done it without all the weather. I I I
18:40100% would have played Antonio Williams over Bourne. Well, not 100%. I would have liked to have played Antonio Williams. And I don't even know. I mean,
18:48I can look how many routes he ran.
18:51>> Sorry, I just looked up the Brilland Allen routes. Brayan Allen ran 28 routes to Emanuel Wilson's 14.
18:57Yeah, and I thought there was some variance in that in that they had literally talked to me about getting Isaiah Davis more more work, you know,
19:03and so I I agree with you. I thought that was the most likely case that Brillin was going to be full-blown
19:07workhorse, but not 100%, you know. So, >> yeah.
19:11>> Do you just to be serious for a minute though, do you take some of the Brilan Allen like we haven't seen him in a
19:17legitimate workhorse role in the NFL yet? like his talent is still a question where we know >> the reason Nate the reason isn't good at
19:26football >> right how many how many scoring opportunities do you think there are for Seattle in a game versus Jets in a game
19:32how many inside the 10 carries inside the five carries are there for Emanuel Wilson typically on average versus a Jets team
19:40>> I mean it showed in what happened in the game because he didn't even have a good game and he still scored because
19:46Seattle's just going to have so many more like the Jets the Jets barely won this game against the awful Browns in
19:53the rain. I I mean, I'm with Nate and then I think Brilen Allen is way better than Emanuel Wilson.
20:01The the team level context, the Isaiah Davis quote was pretty interesting.
20:06Shout out to uh our our boys at Mike Nuggets because they had the the video of it, but it wasn't so it wasn't them
20:12saying like, "Oh, we don't want to play Brillin." But it was literally like the I think the exact quote from who said
20:18their OC Frank Reich. It was like none of our drives were long enough to get Isaiah Davis in the game, which is like
20:24I mean, that is that's so dark that you can't have a drive long enough to play your second running back at all.
20:29But like to me, you know, we we like me specifically, I become enamored with the talent for all these guys and like I've
20:38been waiting for a spot to jam Brillin Allen like his literal whole career. So I I was it was pretty easy for me to get
20:44him in here against >> and that's totally fair. Again, I thought it was we had the exact same projection on these guys. Literally the
20:49exact same. So, you know, obviously I thought Brilen Allen was was a really good play. Also, I mean, yeah, like on a
20:55one week on a oneweek sample, I don't worry about talent in a one season sample. I worry about talent a lot. In a
21:02dynasty setting, I worry about talent massively, you know, but I'm surprised that you guys are coming at me with the talent argument. I'm not I'm not really
21:08coming at I mean we literally had a >> because they were the same price and they it it's because they are the same
21:13price and they projected for similar like workloads and so I I do think in this point talent >> should be a needle mover but
21:20>> and we did have the we did have the Jets defense too uh which also correlates like a little bit like the Jets defense
21:27is going to be a pretty bad play and and I did think I mean Brilen it's funny because he literally didn't catch a pass
21:32at all. did run a bunch of routes, but I I did think he could contribute as a pass catcher. I mean, frankly, we saw
21:38>> I thought he just ran so bad last week that it was like the only thing for him was upside. The overall team volume was
21:45so low last week. It was like that was clearly an anomaly. There's only upside where Emanuel Wilson is like priced for
21:52an efficient offense. And it if Brilen will if Brilin gets any efficiency I mean it's just >> well clearly that's why we had them with
22:01the same projection you know like clearly that that we you know we were projecting 32 plays >> we have also I it is worth noting we
22:08have seen this exact scenario before Bree got hurt last year and Braille Hound and Isaiah Davis were in a legitimate time share. The the
22:16difference this year is that Isaiah Davis got hurt or banged up at some point in training camp and they must have just viewed him as being like
22:26pretty significantly behind Brilen Allen in a way that they because remember there was there was a spot at some point last year where Brilen Allen got played
22:34in cash and was in like legitimately like a a straightup time share. I don't remember what week. It probably was the
22:40first week after Bree got out. But like it's it's not like it's it's a a neverbeforeseen um spot here. So, >> but the good news is all four of us won.
22:49So, you know, it's a happy day.
22:51>> Yeah. People, you know, it's not no one no one wanted this. This is this is for sure the worst outcome for this show was
22:57that we all just like easily won like with no sweat in any way, shape, or form. Like, as soon as the Jets like
23:04cracked like 12 points, it was like, "Okay, well, this slate's over." Cuz Roman Wilson had zero. Antonio Williams sucked and the Jets defense was like you
23:11had to have it and so it was I mean look at look at the ownerships bet 83% swift 83% Brailin 31 Michael Wilson 84 Bourne
23:2140% Treyer like like straight up like no sweat so uh apologize to the people I the people love the the shows that
23:30people love the most on on this is when I lose and Nate and Sammy win. Um, and replacing that with me losing and
23:39Levitan and Nate winning would have been an all-timer for the people. So, I'm I'm apologetic that we were not able to get
23:44there.
23:45>> Yeah, it's it's a bummer. But, I will say the the good news is Cath games are not dead and we still have many weeks of
23:52profitability in front of us and people are going to play this bad. So, like >> I don't know. I don't know.
23:56>> I don't know what I mean. These lineups are >> Gibbs should have been 90%.
24:02>> McBride should have been 90. I think McBride's ownership is almost worse because tight end was such a very clear like I these ownerships are like it
24:12feels like still 2022. Like this is crazy.
24:15>> Yeah. I mean we had McBride like in value like three clear of any other tight end. You really rarely rarely
24:21rarely ever see that at tight end.
24:23>> Yeah. Um all right. So we can go to our GPP stuff now. And I actually was maybe in a semiinteresting spot. So I'm
24:30curious your guys thought on this. So I was dead to win after the 1pm games because I played a Beijing team. So I
24:37had Begent, Jaylen Warren, DeAndre Swift, Matthew Golden, Luther Burden, and the Titans defense at lock. What was left in my lineup must have been it
24:47would so it would have been Michael Wilson, uh, Aronda Gadston, and Jir Gibbs. So I swapped from Michael Wilson to Wadd, I swapped from Gadston to KD,
24:58and I swapped from Gibbs to St. Brown. I I think I I think that and it was this was like a 14 15% sim team before lock
25:07like it was it was like fine but not I just wanted to play it frankly. I just really wanted to do a bent burden with
25:13the the golden bringback. Those were those were all my want plays there.
25:16Would would you guys have swapped that or would you have just kept Gibbs for the men cash?
25:22>> You're ask you're asking you're asking the wrong guy but I don't think you were really drawing live to win after your
25:27start anyway.
25:28>> For sure. I for sure was not drawing live to win. Shouldn't you just be going for the main cash no matter what? Then
25:33>> that's what So like um Nerdy Tener has done a bunch of like work on this of like oh what should I do in these late
25:41swaps and he found he told me that one of the most surprising things he found was in this spot where basically they
25:49were like where like 2018 DFS would have been oh dude you got to swap or whatever but the sim is actually saying all your
25:55equity is in minashing so you should probably stay. I the issue that I thought was I thought KD could have been
26:04a massive differential. Like I thought KD could have gotten like 30 in this spot and you normally are not able to
26:10swap to a Titan that can get that many.
26:12But the the swap uh was obviously bad because my fieldaware ROI here was negative 10% after the swap which so I
26:23gave up what from 14% to 10%. So, I gave up uh a good I guess if you do that math of a hundred bucks, I gave I what I gave
26:31up like what 47 bucks of equity or something there.
26:34>> It's it's so crazy to me like I you know when I listen to the your guys show like I would people ask me for advice all the
26:40time. I a lot of people I tell you guys I say you guys are under swapping.
26:44You're not swapping enough. I want to scream to Davis. You are swapping way too much in everything. Cash, tournaments, e, everything. Like,
26:52>> well, >> there's already been one week this year.
26:55I cost myself a win, but I should have just stay. If I just stayed, I just easily cash everything and and I cost
27:00the Kyler vers shock swap.
27:02>> But you might be the only DFS player on Earth that over swaps. Everybody else unders swaps. You You might be the only
27:07one that actually over swaps on Earth.
27:10>> Nate, would is that was that a stay put for you?
27:13>> I would have stayed put. I mean, yeah, I think you do over swap and I think the field I don't know. I at that point I
27:19would just try to get men.
27:21>> Did either of you guys do Beijing stuff at all?
27:25>> No, I only played three teams and they were all brassette teams. I mean, I can talk about why, but I I I actually only
27:30played three tournaments and and they were all brassette. And the other thing about this is like I actually went for a
27:35full fade in tournaments on Swift. Like this 50% on Swift given he was on the injury report this week. There were some
27:41comments about Roshan Johnson too like and I thought Swift was an awesome play obviously but 53% when you have Jaylen Warren Gibbs Brilen Emanuel Wilson uh
27:50Aaron Jones Brown JT CMC I didn't really want to play 50% DeAndre Swift I guess you know would be my biggest problem
27:57with this lineup.
27:58>> My the the bet my favorite play of the day was Warren but it I did not get saved enough because I cannot stop with
28:07Luther Burton. I can't get and you know what it's gonna happen again next week because I'm gonna say dude he got he got
28:1213 targets like the volume's like it's gonna I'm gonna I already know I can you could fast forward to next week Luther
28:17Burton's gonna have 12 points and I'm going to be like no dude you guys don't understand the volume he's so good the
28:22volume's so good Dunay is so bad >> Caleb's gonna be back next week too >> in like some ways I mean obviously after
28:29watching Bean today like please never ever let me see Tyson Bean play football again like that's it dude >> it's definitely an upgrade over Beij I I
28:37would say for Burden. It might not. I don't know. We haven't seen the Caleb Burden connection work out, but Case Kino and Burden definitely have a
28:43connection. Even Even today, I I don't think Burden had any of his worst games.
28:48It was all under he got he got 33 he got 33 yards and six targets in the last quarter and a half that um
28:56>> that Keenum played. But yeah, uh whatever. Smoked. And also, I'm also curious your thoughts on this too, Adam. the Titans defense at 12%
29:05because they were the last defense you could like squint. That's so bad. That's also terrible of me. Like just play the
29:11Jets, dude. Just find get the 600 bucks to play the Jets.
29:14>> I know. I think I did that too on on Titans on one of my teams. Um yeah, it's not great. I will say Titans on FanDuel
29:20because Commanders were 3,300 and Titans were 31. Titans were not as owned on FanDuel. obviously commanders smash them but or beat them but yeah I mean
29:31obviously playing the like desperation defense in tournaments is something I I try not to do but I think I did it this
29:35week too if I look at my team >> it's so it's so hard not to do it because like we we're just so used to
29:41being like yeah well defense dude you know it doesn't it doesn't matter it's like you know it's unpredictable you could there was you know Straoud is good
29:49for a meatball sub here and there you know so it it is what it is all right Levitan this is your team that was
29:56pretty good in the power sweep. Got up to 29th.
30:01Jacobe Brassette 30%. Manny Wilson 27%.
30:04Jaylen Warren 21. Justin Jefferson.
30:07love it. I that was my my other team I played was a Kyler Jefferson. And I should have just played pet. Uh
30:13Christian Watson also golf clap there.
30:16And [ __ ] neighbors, dude. Talk to me about the neighbors play because I I I couldn't get there and I really wanted
30:21to.
30:21>> It's just rain fud everybody. Oh, Adam, it's raining. There's no way they can score any points in the game. There's
30:28some drizzling going on. I mean, 6,300 for Malik Neighbors. I am concerned about Malik Neighbors long term. Like, still, he legit seems banged up. If they
30:37lose, they're going to go to JJ McCarthy. But my gosh, while he's healthy now at 6,300. That's crazy. But the the thing I want to talk about with
30:43this team was one of like the things that Leon talked about this week on established Million and Dink was like, how can you play Cardinals Detroit in a
30:52smart way? One way was not doing the Brassette double. So I played my worst team was a Brassette Wilson skinny. My
30:59best team was a Brassette McBride skinny and then not doing a bringback. Now you know maybe I should have, but if you
31:05play Arizona Brassette without Gibbs, you're immediately getting unique. And then my other goal was to find upside that can hopefully beat Gibbs with the
31:13wide receiver position. So Jefferson Watson Neighbors, I was like, man, just let these guys beat Jir Gibbs and I'll be cooking. Um, Jir Gibbs obviously
31:23shoved a 40 ball down my gullet, but like if Jir Gibbs has 20 here, you know, that's a whole different story. Um,
31:29obviously I wish I could have the Roman Wilson thing back there in the flex, but >> what what did you guys have him for
31:36projected ownership?
31:37>> Which one?
31:38>> Roman Wilson.
31:40>> Let me check.
31:41>> Cuz our our stuff our stuff kind of liked him, too. Our our stuff um that I don't I don't fully X out plays all that
31:48often. The cheap wide receiver that our stuff liked was Malik Washington and I was just like [ __ ] no chance, dude. So
31:55out on that.
31:56>> We had 14.8% uh Roman Wilson in small field on DK and Malik Washington 13.9%
32:04but uh yeah, you know, um Roman Wilson we only had for 9.5 points and 19.4 ceiling. We had we actually had Malik
32:14Washington for better. Uh 12.5 base, 23.1 ceiling. I just I I I I I'm good, I think, on just not playing
32:22any Dolphins this year. I I think I'm straight. I'm not gonna play Caleb Douglas. I'm not going to play Chris Bell. I I'm dropping like I drafted a
32:28bunch of Malik Willis and like these FFPC main events and stuff and I I you know, Mahomes is on by so I was
32:34scrambling for quarterback and I I I think I ended up playing Malik Willis in one. I think I started Beijing over him
32:40in another. But like I just I'm not doing it. I'm out on the Dolphins experience. They're not playing competitive football. I'm out. I'm not
32:46doing it. They're the least talented team in the in the maybe in the history of football. I mean, they're just so
32:50bad.
32:51>> It is.
32:51>> And people people are still trying to defend Achan as a second round pick. I I I don't want to go off on a tangent
32:56here, but gosh, I mean, >> oh no, come on. Please give it give it to Chess Liam. Tell him [ __ ] Achan
33:00was terrible.
33:01>> I mean, we said this before the season that Devon Achan was the worst second round pick I could ever remember in the
33:06history of fantasy football. Like, by far. Um, >> I generally speaking, I I'll tell you one that was close that I was on and I
33:13think I learned my lesson. Do you remember the year that that David Wilson was coming off an insane year?
33:19>> Giants David Wilson.
33:21>> No, sorry, not David Wilson. David Johnson.
33:24>> Oh, Cardinals David Johnson. Yeah, >> Cardinals David Johnson. And he ends up finishing the season running back nine.
33:30But it was like the worst, most unusable, miserable slog to the finish line. And I think I learned my lesson there, which is like it doesn't matter
33:39how good the running back is because David Johnson, kids are too young to remember, but like he was the the absolute goat of goats at the time, but
33:47like the team was so bad that there was just nothing that could be done about it. Yeah. So I'm I I I was lighter on on
33:54Han. Yeah. Um as well. And then [ __ ] Christian Watson, dude. I mean, again, I just like with the Burden thing, I
34:01cannot stop with Matthew Golden. I I can't >> I mean I think Matthew Gooton's really good. Christian Watson is like a crazy
34:07difference maker. So yeah, I mean I thought all three of those wide receivers had a chance to be Gibbs and that was like the whole idea of the of
34:14the lineup. Obviously I think I should have probably had Brat double McBride and and Bourne, but I was so adamant on
34:20playing the skinny to try to be unique.
34:22Um maybe that was bad.
34:23>> Yeah. Well, they're they're the people are people are asking in the chat.
34:27They're saying how much money >> I wouldn't have won. It doesn't matter.
34:29I wouldn't have won.
34:30>> Okay. The the interesting thing to me is the the neighbors play. Like I almost would have like if I'm betting on
34:36neighbors like Winston Winston would be the play over brassette. You get all the ownership fade and you get like I mean neighbors can't get there without
34:47without Winston doing it. And so yeah, >> I don't know. I I probably that'd be the one thing I would have done in this
34:51lineup is if you're making the neighbors play go to Winston.
34:54>> I think that's fair. And also for us like likely was simming off the charts.
34:58Like one of the best sim plays that we had was Isaiah likely. So yeah, that would have been a good team.
35:03>> Yeah. Well, hand hand up to me, man. I I was scared of the rain. I was scared of the rain, Adam. I said, "Oh, no. Oh, no.
35:10It's >> this wasn't even the worst rain. I mean, the Jets Cleveland was was the worst rain. This was like light rain off and
35:16on." Like, >> that's why that's why Adam decided not to play Brillin Allen. And [laughter] >> hey, was Sun was shining. Oh no, dude.
35:24The ETR fanboys found me. They found me.
35:27I hate it. They hate it. Uh, okay. Nate sent me a lineup that uh he ran bad at the end here. Where is it? I just had
35:36it. Oh, here you said.
35:37>> I just put it in the chat.
35:38>> I just had it I just had it pulled up.
35:40Um, I gotta say I give this lineup I give this lineup a 100 out of 10 for originality, brother. Drake May 6%,
35:48Jaylen Warren 22, Braille Allen 24%, JSN 13%, Deario Douglas 1.8, Eftton [ __ ] Chisum III 1.4%. Hunter
35:58Henry 7.7 Jir Gibbs in the Saints defense. They'll never respect my goat enough, man. They'll never ever dude. I don't care that Fton Chisum only got 10.
36:09Eftton Chisum a a true none. No, a 100 out of 10, Nate. 100 out of 10 for Fton Chisum. And the the crazy thing about
36:19this lineup, Nate, is if anyone else did Demario Douglas or Eftton Chisum, I bet my last dollar, my very last dollar,
36:27they did it to get Aman Ross St. Brown, Trey McBride, and Gibbs in together in a team. They're like, I got to save some
36:33money. I got to do whatever I can to get all these Detroit, Arizona pieces in.
36:37Um, only Gibbs from that game in here. I mean, just you gotta you got to hand it to him. And you get what? You got cucked
36:44at the end uh in first place here by what?
36:47>> I I'm literally watching this and I'm like I need 008 points and this is the last drive with Seattle and I'm like
36:54okay just get me a get me get me a JSN target. Get me a JSN target. He breaks he breaks containment. He gets it. He
37:01jumps and I'm like this is easy money.
37:04And he drops it. I've never seen a more frustrating JSN drop in my entire life.
37:08And I was like >> well he was clearly concussed Nate.
37:10That's the thing is he he was clearly concussed and should have been pulled from the game, but uh yeah, >> it wasn't a concussion, wasn't it? His
37:17ankle.
37:18>> Yeah, >> his ankle was banged up before, but he got smoked right right in his shoulder pad on his last catch of the game.
37:26>> I thought this was >> What tournament, Nate?
37:29>> It was a 20 max like uh what was it? Uh >> the NFL 40k front door 20 entry max.
37:36>> Oh wow. 11,000 people. Jesus, man. My god.
37:40second place by 008. I was literally like I thought I had that one in the bank. But >> dude, second 11K is incredible.
37:48>> That was more of just a fun lineup that almost finished. Well, but I I would rather break down my I'll Davis, I'll
37:53send you the uh actual one that we should >> Well, here I have the I have those contest sims pulled up for I've got I
37:59can check the two the 200k red zone. I can check the 400k spy, the 75k red zone, and the 50k red zone if any of
38:06your teams in that are interested.
38:10These are the only contests that I have up that are cashed.
38:13>> Oh, well, pull the um the one I just sent in the private chat, the touchdown team, the 20k, >> Kyler Murray, Aaron Jones. This the
38:25team level onslaught, Nate. I mean, it's so good. DeAndre Swift, Trey Harris, Justin Jefferson, Malik Washington, Trey McBride, and Jaylen Warren. So, okay. I I'm curious, Nate.
38:36Was this like conscious plan of you going into the week like all right I'm gonna be lighter on Detroit Arizona than
38:44the field or these are just some of the lineups that were interesting to to look at now? No, I had to do some intentional
38:52things because I I like the typical lineups that I built were way were just going to be way too chalky because all I do is onslaught
39:01and it's like everybody was doing the onslaught of that game and so it was like so I had to change some things this
39:06week and and try to get different and so what I was trying to do was essentially just refuse Detroit Arizona onslaught
39:14and I was only going to play anybody from that game not in an in an onslaught and so I trying to find
39:20another game that would just go off anything. So whether it would be Drake May, whether it would be Kyler Murray, um I tried to get different in a lot of
39:28different ways, but obviously still having like McBride and Gibbs. I wasn't going to go with a bunch of like the secondary chalk pieces like the Jameson
39:37Williams and Leaporta stuff, but even though that turned out okay. But yeah, so this was an intentional lineup. I I I mean, obviously with Trey Harris and
39:46some other things didn't go my way, but I thought the Warren ownership was like >> Warren ownership was crazy [snorts] low
39:53compared to Swift, Adam. That that that seems like just because was it because Warren wasn't mentioned in content all week because we thought Rico was
40:00playing.
40:00>> That's exactly it. I was going to talk about this on the on the solo pod. We see this every single time there's late
40:05news and there was so much injury news.
40:06People were like overwhelmed by it. Rico gets ruled out and it doesn't register with people how good a play Jaylen Warren is.
40:13>> And and really interesting that we haven't even talked about this yet. Um we all thought until 10:30 this morning we were going to be able to play Mike
40:21Washington Jr. Uh and and then turns out that you were not able to although this is very this was very bizarre. Genty
40:29clearly is injured in this game and is like limping around and they gave a bunch of touches to Dylan Lowi including
40:35his first NFL touchdown because and this is so funny because like he's from there cuz like he's he he went to he went to
40:42the University of of New Hampshire. So they were like >> I what what other what other reason would there be?
40:48>> I don't know. But I I was I had a note to myself to look into that because it makes zero sense whatsoever.
40:53>> I I I bet I bet you look into it. I bet you'll find an article on Mass Live that's like, "Oh yeah, Dylan Na'Bi's
41:00whole high school was there. His grandma was there. He he got uh he gave he gave his touchdown." I you know,
41:06>> it had to be something where they thought it led to like a better pass.
41:10>> I'll text him and ask him. I'll say, "Was that the game plan or it was like Mike Washington banged up?" I'll I'll
41:14literally ask him.
41:15>> Yes, please.
41:16>> Okay. But the the other thing I liked about this lineup was I I thought Justin Jefferson in this spot >> was gonna come like super underowned and
41:23I thought like if he beats Aman on Raw >> and like Yeah, I just felt really good about the Jefferson thing. So
41:31>> Jefferson Kyler I thought was was >> let's see if we do we think my Jefferson Kyler lineup simmed well. This will be
41:38this will this is a good sweat for me to figure out if I actually um played good.
41:42>> What was it?
41:44>> It was in one of the red zones. So, I'm going to try and find it right now. I don't remember which one it was in.
41:50Uh, not in that one. I played I played uh I'd have to go Well, and the contest just locked so or the they just switched
41:59over to completed.
42:02>> Uh, there you go. Nope. Negative 12% sim ROI. Uh, Kyler Murray, DeAndre Swift, Brilen Allen, Justin Jeff. See, this is
42:11this is how you can tell I'm bad, dude.
42:12because I played Michael Wilson on this team. Totally >> when you go Kyler, you got to go you got to go with the full Aaron Jones.
42:19>> Uh Antonio Williams, Gadson, Jir Gibbs, and the [ __ ] Chargers defense. All right, dude. Put me in jail for playing
42:25the Chargers defense. This team, this team sucks. This team's really bad.
42:29Antonio Williams was not a good play.
42:32Okay, Gadston, I did not catch this until the game literally started. But Kar is back. I I heard no reporting on
42:38this. the the main Chargers beat writer just quit his job to go be a beatw writer for uh Adam Levitan's Philadelphia 76ers. So I missed this
42:48entirely. I would have had zero Gadson in any format. I I I had no idea that Charlie Clard was back from literally
42:55breaking his arm three weeks ago.
42:56>> Yeah, they listed him questionable and like when there's a week with this many injuries, it just people just don't talk
43:01about it. But yeah, I knew he was questionable. I knew it was a game time decision. Yeah.
43:07Hey, negative negative 12% fieldaware ROI is not that bad. Negative 36% sim ROI is pretty bad though.
43:15>> Not ideal tight end plays. You can't be playing that.
43:19>> I mean, Gadston Gadston with all the receiver injuries, no Kar. I' I'd probably do it again, I think.
43:28But but once once Kar was in, he becomes he becomes immediately unplayable. Like he's he's an absolute stone cold. Uh, zero. [snorts]
43:38Yeah. Uh, all right, guys. There we go.
43:41We did it. We solved it. Levitan, thank you for joining us.
43:45>> Uh, thank you for having me, guys. I love the show. Keep it up. Keep the cash game alive. And uh, yeah, I'm happy to
43:51fill in uh, anytime I can. If you guys want me, as long as we keep the uh, cash game torch going for people who like to
43:58play the best plays.
44:00>> Yeah, play play the best plays. Uh, all right, guys. We will be back. Uh, well, I'll be back with all you guys tomorrow
44:06and then we'll be back next week. Uh, shout out shout out to Sammy for touching grass. What a [ __ ] loser.
44:11Can you imagine touching grass? Can you imagine touching grass on a Sunday? I think he I think he said he's at a
44:16concert on a on a Sunday, dude.
44:19>> What are you I can't I I literally can't fathom. I cannot even imagine what that would be like, brother. No shot. No shot
44:27for me, man. Uh, all right. Let's get this Matt Hner first touchdown. Make me a cool grand and I will see you guys
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