0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! It's football time! Yes it is. Week 3.
0:08Kind of. No, it's real. It's absolutely real. I refuse to believe that the first two weeks of the Falcons are prescriptive for the rest of the season.
0:17I don't think Pua, which in this version of Pua is Michael Pennix tonight, I don't believe he's fixing everything.
0:24As of right now, Jason. It's just a moving target right now for the Falcons of this entire offseason where they brought Tua in on purpose.
0:32Yeah. To replace the guy we're happy is starting tonight.
0:35That's the moving target I'm talking about. And when that happened, let's say right before preseason started, it was like we had
0:42watched enough Pennix to be like, yeah, Tua is not good, but he's significantly better than Pennix.
0:48Then Tua played preseason and was like, oh gosh.
0:51He's significantly worse than Pennix. And now, but still, both should be significantly better than what we've seen in the first two weeks.
0:58And then remember, Michael Pennix was medically cleared like over a week ago.
1:02He was just like, I'm not ready. You're ramping up, man.
1:06I find it... This is football time. It's going to be a fun game.
1:10We have one. So we got Packers, we got Falcons.
1:14I will just say this. I don't know if you guys...
1:17There might be a lot of points. Yeah. It's very possible.
1:21I don't know if you have thoughts on this.
1:23I am just always amazed at... It's like the opposite of...
1:27What is the phrase about perfection and good? Like the enemy of...
1:31The enemy of... Good is the enemy of great.
1:34Good is the enemy... Yeah. I just... Kirk Cousins would be the best quarterback of the Falcons.
1:39Yes. Right? For sure. Kirk Cousins would be the best quarterback for the Vikings.
1:44Uh... TBD. Probably. Probably. I mean, probably. Yeah, probably.
1:47You go back... Like, Ryan Fitzpatrick... Yeah. Was the best quarterback for probably half the team.
1:52Baker Mayfield was the best quarterback for the Browns.
1:55Yeah. Right? Like, we do this over and over and over again where...
1:59You move on. You get bored. You get... You want to aspire to Mahomes or Brady and you will never...
2:05I mean, that is a microscopic chance as a team.
2:08And... But isn't it worth taking... But isn't it worth taking...
2:12Flacco would be the best quarterback for half the teams in the league a few years ago.
2:17Yeah. But he's a backup. But isn't it... Like, wouldn't you say it's worth taking the shot at hitting that greatness, even
2:24though it's a low-odds shot, just because you know that with Kirk Cousins or with that older version of Flacco or...
2:31You know, you're not winning a Super Bowl. So...
2:34I don't know if that's true because Flacco's won a Super Bowl.
2:38That's why I said the older version of Flacco.
2:41But I think the older version of Carson Palmer took the Cardinals to 14-3.
2:45The older version of Kurt Warner took them to a Super Bowl.
2:49I just think it's funny where, you know, it's 11 on 11.
2:53There's a lot of other pieces on these teams.
2:56And sometimes... Like, we don't often say when the good quarterbacks there, we're not like, man, it's that one linebacker.
3:02They're that one linebacker away from winning. But if you have a bad quarterback, we end them on this show.
3:09It ends everybody. Yeah. The Cooper Rush ended Drake London and Kyle Pitts.
3:13Yeah. It's just funny how... Well, I guess he did.
3:16Yeah, that's... Yes, that's the point. We saw it happen.
3:19Yeah, you can do that. You can delete a team.
3:23But Kirk Cousins won't delete a team. Yeah. Right.
3:25No, it's... Yeah. It's just... It was a money...
3:28It's a good philosophical money problem with Kirk Cousins.
3:31We've watched it for so long, but we've got a Thursday night football game.
3:36We've got starts of the week today. We've got news to talk about.
3:40Oh, yeah. I just like when football's on. It sounded like electricity going through your body right there.
3:46Yeah, it's football. Which we had... We actually had some of that rain stuff in Arizona this morning.
3:51We had a boatload. We really did. There was a moment.
3:55And there was lightning and thunder. We had like three or four brownouts this morning.
4:00Is that from like the... Aren't there tropical storms going on right now?
4:04Hurricanes on the Pacific? There's a nor'easter or something.
4:07Something. I don't know. We don't really know. Yeah.
4:10Us desert folk don't know nothing about that. No, we're desert men, but...
4:14We're doctors, not meteorologists. We're just... You know? We know metal.
4:17Oh, yeah, I do. And we know butterfly stretches.
4:20And law. But anyways, let's just get into the news.
4:24News and notes from around the league. Well, why not?
4:27Jonah Coleman didn't practice. Oh, come on. Probably the number one waiver pickup for about half of the leagues out there, and he didn't practice.
4:35And J.K. Dobbins and R.J. Harvey were limited, so they literally practiced more than Coleman.
4:40The news was all over the place, man. It was...
4:43I saw so many... Jonah Coleman's not going to practice.
4:46Oh, we saw him. He was... He was practicing.
4:49You're like, no, he definitely was not practicing. It's like, this is...
4:53Get it together. We could do it with our eyes.
4:56I know. Well, that's what they're allegedly doing. Is he in a disguise?
5:00Was this... He had a little grouch on marks?
5:03I don't think Coleman can hide. So you can't hide that body shape.
5:07Official injury report on the Wednesday practice. Jonah Coleman did not participate.
5:11R.J. Harvey and J.K. Dobbins were limited participants. I have a dynasty league that I am so...
5:17Golly. ...injured and empty on running backs where Tyler Bidet started to look good.
5:21I mean... Ooh! These three guys are not healthy.
5:24Speaking of not healthy, this is of great concern for a number of reasons.
5:28I want to get your thoughts. Puka Nakua did not practice on Wednesday.
5:33Sean McVay went on a radio show, if you watched it.
5:36I mean, he was very candid. He's just like...
5:39He was. Yeah, he's not making great progress. You got to do the McVay voice.
5:44I don't know. I was trying to. No, I liked it.
5:47I liked it. It's a little bit higher, though.
5:50Yeah, that's true. I mean, he's not making great progress.
5:53He's not making great progress. Yeah, and if you have to...
5:57Anyways... Yeah. Look, if you have to come out and say what injury they don't have, it says something to me.
6:04Okay? But it's also... It is good news. He doesn't have a torn ACL, guys.
6:09It is good news, though. And they said it's not the hernia.
6:12He came out and said it's not a hernia.
6:15He was very definitive it's not a hernia. It's not the hernia.
6:19Now... But he's not making great progress. And like, we have...
6:23Is there a difference between sports hernia and him ending up with an abdominal surgery?
6:27I don't know. I... Yeah, I don't know, guys.
6:30I mean, my point is, let's say it's a groin injury.
6:34Since he said it's not a hernia injury. If it's a groin injury, that could take multiple weeks.
6:40You cannot make progress right now. It would be totally fun.
6:43Miss a game, miss two games, miss three games, and then you're back and you're puka sensational.
6:49The hernia was the big fear. And it's... For him to come right out and say it's not a hernia.
6:55Yeah, which means I guess people other than me were questioning that.
6:59He said once you get to a certain point, he's going to allow it to heal.
7:04And I think you'll be pretty good moving forward.
7:07Look, there are players in which an injury concerns me more than other players.
7:11And puka, the fact that he's dealt with some things on and off in his career, it does concern me.
7:18I don't think you're going to see Puka Nakua on the football field this week.
7:23And I don't know how quick you'll see him back out there, but Zay Flowers didn't practice on Wednesday.
7:29That's unfortunate you wanted to see him back in the swing of things.
7:33Preferred they are... Do we have an update yet today for Thursday?
7:37No, I don't think so. I've not seen, but a reminder, the Baltimore-Dallas game is in...
7:42It's an international one. It's in Brazil. Yeah, I mean, Mike, you made the point.
7:47Which it's not on the same field, I believe.
7:50Okay. Okay. We can double-check that. Are all fields in Brazil the same?
7:54I don't know. Okay. I don't know. I don't know how they're...
7:58Your point being that if they were going... They don't want to take a risk, potentially, with Flowers re-injuring himself...
8:04Correct. ...if they don't feel comfortable with the playing surface.
8:07Correct. Which, if it's anything like when we saw...
8:10What was it? Packers-Eagles? And it was Packers, for sure, because it was Jaden Reed just destroying the world because no defender
8:17could get any sort of grip off of the ground, which is...
8:21If it's like that, you don't want to do with a hammy playing.
8:25Brock Bowers limited on Wednesday. Could be back this week.
8:28Are you just right back into the lineup if Bowers is out there?
8:33When he starts, I will definitely be starting him.
8:36I am still skeptical, even though he's practicing limited this week.
8:39We'll see if he's actually active. Travis H. Shane Jr., despite getting no work, limited on Wednesday with a hamstring.
8:46You could see Alvin Kamara a lot on Sunday.
8:48Oh, man. Mike Evans did not practice on Wednesday.
8:51Honestly, if for some reason Etienne was downgraded, if he didn't play, I feel like Kendra Miller is the better option to go with.
8:59It might be. I think you could get some one-yard passes to Kamara.
9:03Mike Evans, I said, didn't practice. They're going to take it easy with him.
9:08I don't worry about Wednesdays with Evans. I worry about Thursday, Friday.
9:12Aaron Jones did not practice on Wednesday. Okay, sure.
9:14Why not? That one is troubling. I mean, I thought about...
9:18I had a waiver claim in this morning to pick up the Montclairborne.
9:22I ended up withdrawing it. I don't think the team trusts him.
9:26I think DJ Dallas will get more work. Yes.
9:29I think it will be annoying, and we still don't know if Jones will be out.
9:34But, of course, we lost Jordan Mason. Yeah, if Aaron Jones is out, it will be between those two guys.
9:40I agree. I think DJ Dallas is the more trusted player, will play more snaps.
9:45I think if I had to throw one of them in a lineup...
9:49Come on! Come on! I would actually put DeMond Claiborne in over DJ Dallas simply because I think...
9:55Then you wouldn't be starting DJ Dallas. I see what you're going with.
9:59Yeah, you just have more explosive upside. This is a player who's got some great speed, fits the system well in Claiborne.
10:06And I'm, you know... No, I get it. I get it.
10:10I might or might not be starting him in CHOP.
10:13Okay. Oh. Well, I started Jordan Mason week one.
10:16Oh, no. Aaron Jones. Jonah Coleman week two. Oh, okay.
10:19And now I'm just... My RB2 in that league for a couple more weeks.
10:24Sounds like we're safe this week, Mike. That's what that sounds like.
10:28I love to hear it. I think I'm like top three score so far.
10:32Oh, okay. Well, Josh has already declared that he would be the one who was CHOP.
10:37Well, you declared that week one and you're still around.
10:40Wow. It was pretty amazing to have Drake made A.J.
10:44Brown week one. In a CHOP league, there are a lot of teams right now.
10:48Yeah. And so we had somebody saved. A lot can go wrong.
10:52We had somebody 100% dead last week. And then Jackson Dart happened.
10:56Jackson Dart, yeah. So you can survive. Let's talk starts.
10:59Starts of the week. Brought to you by Apple Card.
11:03All right. My starts of the week always... I mean, we all do our rankings individually each week.
11:08Some guys just show up better than the other ones.
11:12And we want to give you some confidence plays and endorsements on players this week.
11:16And my quarterback... It's Brock Purdy! Yeah. For a second consecutive week.
11:20Taking on Arizona. He's good. He's really good. He's just executing to a perfect level right now.
11:26And that's not to say he's not good. He's very, very good.
11:30But he also... He kind of... He's the surgical kind of quarterback.
11:33He's not going out there and doing... You know, it's not 450 yards.
11:38It's... I am going to slice and dice you up with perfect efficiency.
11:42Always has the touchdown upside. Leads quarterbacks in EPA per play.
11:45Eight and a half point home favorites. This is going to be...
11:49It's going to be bad for Arizona. Do you see that he was on like a podcast or something talking about how
11:56quarterbacks basically 40% of the time they can't see where they're throwing?
12:00Oh, yeah. I did see that. Yeah. You're like...
12:03Dude, that's... It's in... For him, it's 60-70%. Right.
12:06Because he's essentially saying like this is processing and you're like you just have to know what's going to happen.
12:12Processing over arm strength. Knowing where to put the ball.
12:15No, it's funny because we said coming into the year, Brock Purdy is the one quarter...
12:21Literally, the only one quarterback where you assume 7 plus percent...
12:24Yes. Which is ridiculous. ...of his passes for touchdowns.
12:27That's usually the outlier year and then you regress.
12:30And I was like, what does he have right now?
12:33He's at 8.9% so far on the season. Yeah.
12:36So he does have room to regress. Yeah. And still be awesome.
12:40Back to his normal 7%. No Stribbling. No Demarcus Robinson.
12:43No Christian Kirk. No problem. And who knows? Maybe no Mike Evans.
12:47I don't care. If Arizona, I'm taking him. I'm going to go with Jared Goff.
12:52Jared Goff! Jared Goff! Against the New York Jets.
12:55He is at home. Last week, obviously, went off 300...
12:58There you're introducing. He went off... Jared! No! 327 and four last week.
13:02He is at home in a dome. The Dominator has averaged 21 fantasy points per game at home since 2022.
13:08And they've got the fifth highest implied point total this week.
13:12Tyler Shuck! Get out of the way, Jason. Stealing my stream of the week.
13:16The king of the Shuck Daddies is here. His number one supporter.
13:20We're playing him this week. You gotta be so happy I let him go and let you take it.
13:26Oh, brother. It feels so good. Having... Oh, man.
13:29With the combo of Dak and Tyler Shuck. That's my platoon right now.
13:33I'm feeling pretty good about my quarterback. I'm feeling pretty bad about letting him go.
13:38Feeling good about that. He is the first player in NFL history with 3,000 passing yards and a 67% completion rate through his first 13 career games.
13:47He's old. He was seasoned. He was ready to play.
13:50He's in the perfect system with Kellen Moore. You're essentially getting an extra five or more drop backs.
13:56It's like an extra drive per game because of how fast they play.
14:00I mean, you're looking at these players. We got Drake May at Jacksonville.
14:04Herbert at Buffalo. Stafford at Denver. However... Yeah, I...
14:07Look... I'm rolling out Tyler Shuck. It's a big week.
14:10We've talked about it all week long. I think the offensive line, maybe no A-Chan.
14:15I cannot wait to see if he can... Yeah.
14:18I think it's a big week for him. I'm going with the player that had a down week.
14:24These are the kind of starts you need sometimes.
14:27David Montgomery is going to be my start of the week at the running back position.
14:32It should work. Eight total opportunities last week. Less than five fancy points.
14:36Still out-snapped Woody Marks, who... Woody Marks was pretty good efficiency-wise again.
14:40But the Colts... Boy, you want to start players against the Colts right now.
14:4430th in EPA per rush attempt. 31st in yards per carry allowed.
14:48I think it's that kind of week. I think...
14:51Honestly, I think C.J. Stroud's kind of okay this week.
14:54I really think he'll throw for a ton of yards.
14:58But I'm going to go Monty at running back.
15:00Yeah, wait until we get to my tight end.
15:03For now, I'll talk about Cameron Scadaboo. Oh, going Cameron.
15:07I'm going... Yeah, well, he wants to be called Cameron, not Cam, according to Cameron.
15:11But, yeah. So, through two weeks, he's seen 16 and 18 opportunities.
15:15He is the Giants' lead back. Now that you've got Jackson Dart gone, I think they're going to have to rely on
15:22him even more at home against Tennessee. I think the Giants are going to run, play defense.
15:28He should be a very solid RB2 this week for fantasy.
15:31Yeah, there are going to be matchups for the Giants where not having Jackson Dart scares me about the run game.
15:38This is not one of them. Yeah, this is a good matchup.
15:42And I think Jameis is going to check down to a little bit more to Cameron than we've seen the first two weeks.
15:49I'm going with a running back two on his own team.
15:53I'm going Blake Corum against the Denver Broncos. I like him this week.
15:57I think he's very playable through two weeks on a per-touch basis.
16:01He's looking awesome. Six yards per carry on 22 attempts.
16:04Only Ken Bone, the absolute man, is higher than Blake Corum in that.
16:08Speaking of Ken Bone, this is... The man, the bone, the legend.
16:12The man, the bone, the legend. I love it.
16:15This is the matchup where Kenneth Walker showed us maybe the Denver Broncos are not so good at tackling.
16:21Through two weeks, dead last in EPA per rush.
16:24Dead last in yards after contact per attempt allowed.
16:2729th in fantasy points allowed to running backs. He might be the backup, but I think Blake Corum is very playable this week.
16:34I keep expecting to finally see that Blake Corum outscores Kyron Williams on a week because of how well he's playing.
16:41That won't happen. And it just doesn't ever happen.
16:44They were, like, identical rushing the football this past week.
16:47I'm going Deebo Samuel when it comes to... Oh, that's a man.
16:51Yeah. He's the last man standing. I was going to say it.
16:55I was. Deebo against Arizona, the stack with Brock Purdy.
16:58He's 50% out wide, 5% in the backfield, 45% in the slot.
17:02He's going to be a part of the game plan.
17:05What I love about Shanann is he goes into these games and he says, look, this is how we win.
17:11He's running out of options to choose from on the this is how we win.
17:16You can't overload Kittle right now recovering. It's a Deebo game.
17:20And, Mike, I know you got him and you're going to play.
17:24I'm pretty happy about it. I am going at wide receiver with Lad McConkie.
17:28Injured Lad. If you watched the practice reports last week, he barely practiced.
17:32And then in the game, he was more of a decoy.
17:36He was out there a little bit but played less than half the snaps.
17:40Wasn't a good game. Already this week, full participant in practice on Wednesday.
17:45I think that the matchup is good. They desperately need him.
17:48I expect a billion points in that Buffalo game.
17:51I couldn't imagine having him on the bench if he goes off in an environment where he should.
17:57The Bills' offense has been great, but their defense, they've been winning.
18:01So you're not worried about the defense as much.
18:03But they're 31st in points per drive allowed. 28th in pass success rate allowed.
18:0830th in fantasy points allowed to wide receiver. Specifically losing a lot to the slot wide receiver.
18:13So this is just a perfect matchup. I know he's a little banged up.
18:18But based on the practice reports, I think he's going to have a very fine fantasy week three.
18:24I'm going Josh Downs. I love it. Against the Houston Texans last week, Downs was awesome.
18:29Nine targets, seven for 72. Alec Pierce is now officially out of the picture.
18:33And all the analysis of, is Josh Downs going to be out there?
18:37The answer is yes. He is a full-time player.
18:40He is their number one wide receiver now. Andy's trying to trade for Alec Pierce from me right now.
18:46I gave you a 24-hour period to accept my trade.
18:50You didn't apply. You mean Josh Downs or Alec Pierce?
18:53What? You said Alec Pierce. Did you mean Josh Downs?
18:56Oh, I meant Josh Downs, yes. Yes, Josh Downs.
18:59Okay. Speaking of that, 30th in first read target share.
19:0230%, I should say. 29% of the team's receiving yards so far.
19:06And maybe it's just a Buffalo Cincinnati thing. Houston is bleeding points to the wide receiver position.
19:12And coincidentally, this is a matchup that Josh Downs has actually been pretty good in five career games versus Houston.
19:18Downs is averaging over 10 fantasy points per game against that defense.
19:22And if you want to be just mesmerized by a stat, my tight end start of the week is Travis Kelsey, who,
19:29quote, leads all pass catchers in the NFL in yards after the catch.
19:33Oh, yeah. Yeah, there was a couple big runs.
19:36They are 11 and a half point road favorites.
19:39He leads the team in targets per route run.
19:42And if it was just some hidden stats and not the eyeballs, I would not be bringing it up.
19:48But if you go and you watch the game.
19:51Looks good. I think he's lost some weight. I think he looks in better shape than last year.
19:56And it's Miami boys. I mean, if he doesn't score in this game, I'll be shocked.
20:02I think it was a friend of the show, Matt Harmon, had tweeted about, he's like, Travis Kelsey got in wedding shape and then just stayed in shape.
20:11He's like, I see you, Travis. There you go.
20:13Hey, if we like a narrative, I don't hate it.
20:17But what about all the pictures when he shows up to camp and he looked like.
20:22He was just bloated. Yeah. It's very. I'm going to go with the doctor.
20:26Oh, the doctor. Dr. Schultz. We said last week that he was going to get a bajillion targets for probably 30 yards,
20:33but he broke a few Travis Kelsey-esque long, empty field runs.
20:37He was 12 for 140 against Cincinnati last week.
20:4012 on 14 targets. Did you hear him going down the field?
20:44Oh, you upgraded him. I did. I gave him credit for running, for being the tight end two on the week.
20:50That's it. There it is. The Colts are certainly a team that you are targeting right now.
20:56I mean, that was who Travis Kelsey just obliterated on Sunday night.
21:00So if Kelsey could do it, the doctor can do it.
21:03Okay. Also, Terrence Ferguson on waivers. Yes, yes, yes.
21:06If Puka is gone, it would be like a secondary start of the week.
21:11Oh, that'd be very good. That was starts of the week by you.
21:15Hey. Mike gets one. My tight end start of the week.
21:18Oh, I'm so sorry. Get out of here. You're going to like this one.
21:23They reminded me about the CTA, and then I was like, let's just do it now.
21:28I was over here waving my hands at you, but you didn't see me there.
21:33Well, you know what? Maybe just... Sorry. I'm going with Tucker, second and fourth, Kraft, four.
21:38Tonight? Yeah, tonight against the Atlanta Falcons. Second and four?
21:41What is second and four? What is that? That's what your trade was.
21:45A second and a fourth? Yeah. You think it's worth it?
21:49It will be in the end. I just... That's what I'm calling him right now, the ramp up.
21:55He played 98% of the snaps. Yes, they have some offensive line issues.
21:59That was a huge jump. But Tucker, Kraft is back to being a full-time player.
22:04With Jaden Reed out, Tucker, Kraft should absolutely dominate the middle of the field.
22:08And Atlanta is currently 29th in schedule adjusted points to the tight end position.
22:13And they've played the Muth and Darren Waller. Yeah, that's great.
22:16I will say, when I saw this in there, I really liked the two-four in there.
22:21But I thought you wrote it wrong. I thought you were calling him Tucker two-by-four.
22:26And I was like, oh, yeah. Oh, wait a minute.
22:29Oh, he's just going to smack guys. Hold on.
22:32Tucker two-by-four? The two-by-four? Yeah. In the face. Hold on.
22:35Tucker two-by-four? Tucker two-by-four. That's your trade. I don't hate it.
22:39I don't really mind it. The two-by-four? He brings a two-by-four to your face.
22:43You're getting out of the way. It takes a two-by-four to get him in a trade, too.
22:49That was Starts of the Week, officially. Officially Starts of the Week.
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23:04Terms and more at applecard.com. Tucker two-by-four. All right.
23:07We'll take a break. I'm in. And we'll get in.
23:10It does. Put it on the board. It rolls off the tongue.
23:14Let's take a break, and we'll get into the forecast.
23:17All right. It's Week 3. Fantasy Forecast, presented by PrizePix.
23:20If there were two teams that couldn't be in more opposite sentiment situations, right?
23:25The vibes around the Los Angeles Chargers who are 0-2 traveling to the brand new Highmark Stadium.
23:30The Buffalo Bills are 2-0. The Vegas line is Buffalo minus 7.
23:34The over-under is 50 and a half. Nearly every part of my being is tempted here.
23:39Oh, yeah. Because this is the National Football League.
23:42There wasn't a soul who thought that the Ravens would lose last week to, well, there were a few.
23:48But it was a big line, right? It was 8 and a half points.
23:53You had the Browns come back with a win last week against Tampa.
23:57I don't think anybody expected that. But I just, I would not be shocked if you got one of those weeks where
24:04the rubber met the road and the Chargers made it close.
24:07But I'm not going to do it because it's just the extremes are too extreme right now.
24:13DJ Moore, we could get him back this week.
24:16We'll see. It's the second highest over-under of the week.
24:19So, for fantasy purposes, independent of the outcome, very exciting game.
24:23Yeah, I mean, I made Ladd a start because the Buffalo Bills defense has been very, very bad.
24:28CJ Stroud destroyed them. And their offense has been so good, it's been irrelevant.
24:33I mean, they're blowing guys out. And I agree partially with your sentiment that I think the Chargers are going to figure stuff out.
24:41I think they're going to get better. And I believe getting Ladd back is crucial to this offense.
24:46When Ladd has been out there, you know, the very beginning, the first half against the Cardinals, their offense looked significantly better with Ladd out there.
24:55I also think their offense might be more explosive with Gadsden being forced in instead of Njoku.
25:00And, you know, they were playing this slow, tight end heavy, you know, scheme.
25:05And I think that it could be good. I still believe that right now Buffalo is just cooking so...
25:11They are on fire. And that second game at home, at Highmark, I don't see the Chargers stopping.
25:17You got any more heat-related analogies? Cooking, they're on fire.
25:20What else you got? Blazing? I think they're magma, man.
25:23Magma. Yeah, this is... They're playing good football. And here's the thing about Buffalo that I don't think people...
25:29Like, if you say, okay, Josh, yeah, on those two games, it's all, you know, that's otherworldly, you're not going to get that all year.
25:37You want to know, this is Joe Brady. McDermott was the coach for all those years.
25:42Correct. When McDermott was the head coach, I always had confidence that this defense would progress over the course of the season because that's what he did.
25:51That's what made him good. It didn't matter if they lost personnel, they figured out the defensive side.
25:57You could say, oh, we just want to run the ball and play defense.
26:01Through two weeks, Joe Brady looks like he's got the offense on lock and the defense looks suspect.
26:07Sure, that's fair. But play Allen, play Cook. If DJ Moore is active, do you play him?
26:12He was limited on Wednesday. That's a good sign.
26:15Yeah, I'd probably play him but understand the risk of, I mean, a hard fall on that shoulder and you could lose DJ Moore again.
26:23Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, risky at best. Yeah, Coleman didn't practice on Wednesday, which is unfortunate.
26:28Of course he didn't. Yes. Of course, you make it one game you look confident as a receiver and you don't practice.
26:35So I'm at least keeping an eye on him, maybe just a speculative ad, not so much of a nasty play this week.
26:43We did mention that that might swell up after the game because he went back out there and then Dalton Kincaid, yes, please.
26:50Yeah, Dalton Kincaid has just been awesome. He looks like their number one receiver, even with DJ Moore out there.
26:57It's just he's always been excellent per route. Now he's actually running more routes.
27:01Yeah, now healthy. Doesn't it feel like they got two new receivers?
27:05Yeah, it really does. Dalton Kincaid has not been a thing yet.
27:09No, I mean, he was struggling with that knee injury all last year, played, I want to say, 38% of snaps, and
27:16now they have a full-time second-round draft pick player who has been really good.
27:20Was he a first-round pick? Dalton was the first, yeah.
27:24Oh, man. I mean, we loved him. We spent years believing that this was the year he was going to get it together.
27:31Pick 25. Yeah, so our all-season fire pick looks good.
27:34Hampton. Hampton is a great matchup for him. Hampton's a great play.
27:38Gadsden, if you're desperate. Man. I think Gadsden is an okay start.
27:42I mean, he hasn't done much on the season.
27:45He had a touchdown last week, but only two targets in the game.
27:49But it's the fact that the injuries are going to force him to be on the field.
27:54Yeah. I hate the part of that it's had to be forced, where it's like, does McDaniel and Kovie, do they like Gadsden?
28:02Do they really want him as part of the plan?
28:05I just think he's not a complete tight end in any way, shape, and form.
28:10He's an athletic freak who can go catch the football.
28:13It's a little bit like, you know, we've seen what likely he can do in the passing game, right?
28:19Now with the Giants and Sly. But it was always, you know, Mark Andrews and Smythe and other guys getting snaps ahead
28:26of him sometimes because the incomplete nature of it.
28:29But Gadsden right now, I mean, these guys are on IR.
28:33Right. So it's over for them. It's Gadsden almost every play.
28:36Yeah. And Kewge has reverted back to a pumpkin.
28:39Yeah. Yeah. Carolina one-on-one. Cleveland one-on-one. In Cleveland. Carolina minus two and a half over under 42 and a half.
28:45Wow. Good for you, Carolina. And Cleveland's one-on-one too, Mike.
28:49I just mean like Carolina is on the road and favored.
28:52Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we talked about Bryce Young on the Unsolved Mysteries episode yesterday.
28:57Whether, you know, Mike and I were kind of very much on the side that we believe it's a level up.
29:04We believe that the math of Carolina right now.
29:07You should take some chances that it could be for real.
29:10Well, yeah. And Carolina's, you know, they've got weapons.
29:13Tett McMillan and Jalen Coker is a viable twosome each and every week.
29:17And then you bring Darren Waller into the equation.
29:20Their prize picks projections are... Are they the same?
29:23Yeah, they're the same. Both at 59 and a half receiving yards.
29:27That's a lot. Yeah. Both of those guys are plays, right?
29:30Darren Waller, Jason. Would you rather start... Let me put it this way.
29:35Waller seems like as good of a bet as a touchdown opportunity as any tight end right now.
29:40For sure. Because he's enormous. And I think that the snap counts are going to rise for him.
29:46They're very low right now. Would you play him or...
29:49I guess you'd play Schultz. I would play Schultz.
29:52And I would play Ferguson. Then it would be Waller.
29:55Then it would be Gadsden. Would you play Waller or the other Ferguson?
30:00Jake Ferguson, who had two touchdowns last week. I still...
30:03Oh, man. I think I would go... I would go Ferguson over Waller because he's out on the field more.
30:09He's used between the 20s more. And they both can catch touchdowns.
30:13I still would put the odds of a touchdown higher with Waller than Ferguson.
30:18But it's not a big enough gap to take the fewer snaps.
30:21But I think Waller is a great player to roster.
30:25As the season goes on, I expect him to get more and more involved.
30:29But the great thing is that he is always involved around the red zone.
30:34And so that's all you really need from the middling tight end pool is a touchdown.
30:39Waller or Fannin? Oh, in the... Same game. Oh, woof.
30:42I think... Cut that, cut that. I think I'd go Waller.
30:46I think a much better chance at a touchdown.
30:48That hurts, though. That hurts big time. Yeah. I mean, Harold Fannin's at 17% target share through two weeks.
30:55It's not... It's not... It's not the end of the world.
30:58It's not good enough. No, it's not good enough.
31:01And I... You know, Watson was 24 for 30 last week.
31:04238 and 2. Bryce Young, six touchdowns through two games.
31:08And there are only five running backs that are top 12 in each of the first two weeks.
31:13Ken Bone, Gibbs, Henry, John and Taylor. Oh, wait.
31:16And Chuba. Yeah. Chuba is the other one. And John and Brooks just went to IR.
31:22And A.J. Dillon is not good. And they didn't sign Austin Eckler.
31:25So, in this week, in particular, Chuba is a must start.
31:29For sure, yeah. And who would have thought you'd much rather draft him than Judkins?
31:34Much rather. I know you weren't in on Judkins.
31:37I wasn't in on Chuba either. But you wouldn't have been in on Chuba.
31:41No, I was not. I thought Brooks would be more of an impact.
31:45But this is all Chuba. And if this team is...
31:48If they're for real, then Chuba is going to be awesome.
31:52I think the biggest question in this game is actually Bryce Young.
31:56Because we've talked about picking him up, taking shots on him.
31:59Is it real or not? This matchup is one where, so far through two weeks this season, it looks like not a terrible matchup.
32:07Last year, obviously, you didn't necessarily want to play against the Browns.
32:11But Miles Garrett is gone. I don't think this is a bad defense.
32:15So, this is a perfect matchup to me where it's like...
32:19I think it's a pretty bad defense. Push has come to shove.
32:23And you've got to make your call right now as to whether or not you believe in Bryce Young.
32:29I still feel skeptical. I would start him this week.
32:32Justin Herbert or Bryce Young. Bryce Young, easy. Oh, that's an easy Herbert for me.
32:37Yeah, I'm going to start Bryce Young. I'm not going to go back to this well where it's like...
32:43There's no way that that's a guarantee that Herbert's better.
32:46And why not take the guy that's had two prolific weeks?
32:49Like, I give zero credit to the Cleveland defense last week relative to the...
32:54I mean, the Tampa Bay offense is abysmal. Yes.
32:57And they still, you know... They're 22nd in terms of fancy points given up to quarterback through two weeks.
33:03I'm taking Bryce. That could be a water bet.
33:06Oh, Jason wants to make... Jason just literally... Yeah.
33:09Oh, we're doing money. Water bet. I think the water in this one is money because he just made me a $100 bet about Bryce Young versus Herbert.
33:18I just think that'll be a fun thing to watch for in this week.
33:22And I think both are good starts this week.
33:25The matchups aren't too bad. But let's go with others.
33:28You don't have to start Herbert. You got no reason.
33:32You don't have to do it. It's just the matchup to me.
33:35I think that there's going to be a gazillion points for Buffalo.
33:39Was the Cardinal and Raider matchups pretty good for Herbert?
33:42Well... Were those decent? I mean, the Cardinals, while they won, it wasn't an environment where you were going to keep passing the ball a lot.
33:51I do think in this one... They scored 7.9 fantasy points against the Raiders.
33:55So let me give you some... I'm not saying you're going to be wrong.
34:00I'm just saying the evidence right now is like, hey, why go through the pain of trying it again?
34:06Right now, we've got Bryce Young as our consensus quarterback 15.
34:09Is he going Herbro? Is he going Herbro right now?
34:13Jason? Yeah. What are you talking about? Jason has been...
34:16I am always going to be a Herbro. Jason has interlocked arm and arm up the street for the Herbros.
34:22But I also think... Still? That's why I'm smiling.
34:25It's fun. It is fun. There's two things here.
34:28My primary belief here is more anti-Buffalo Bills defense.
34:31That... I am targeting the Buffalo Bills defense the way that, you know, in years past we were targeting...
34:37You know, when you're playing against the Bengals. When you're playing against the Cowboys, you want pieces in that game.
34:43That's how I feel. But also, I really do believe the lack of lad has been the biggest problem for Herbert.
34:50But let's talk about other players. Would you start Bryce Young or Tyler Shuck?
34:55I think those are neck and neck this week.
34:58They're close. I lean Tyler Shuck in that one.
35:00I like Bryce. But it's... What about Drake May at Jacksonville?
35:04Bryce. I'm making the switch. I'm putting Bryce above.
35:07And what about last one? Matthew Stafford been on fire, but at Denver.
35:11Bryce. I'm okay with going Bryce there. I think we need to adjust our rankings.
35:16Yep. Because Bryce should be down at 15. Yeah, I'm looking.
35:19I just moved him up. I... Moved him up.
35:22Oh, and he's sitting one spot ahead of Justin Herbert.
35:25Okay, there it is. Yeah, look, I guess I have the confidence in Bryce Young right now.
35:31He's feeling it. You know, like, Shuck's been good.
35:34Mm-hmm. But, like, Bryce has done the three touchdown thing two weeks in a row.
35:39Yeah, I don't feel, like, extremely confident saying Shuck over.
35:42Over Bryce. Yeah. Yeah, but way to walk us through it, Jay, because I needed to tweak the rankings a little bit there.
35:49Ted McMillan and Coker, yes. Waller, we talked about it.
35:52The other side, you know, I don't feel good about any of it, really.
35:57I think Boston is the one that you could probably play because you're going to get the targets.
36:03You're going to get some high-value targets. But I'm not messing around with the rest of those guys.
36:08The, if Quinshawn Judkins is bad in this matchup, you've got to put him on a boat.
36:14You give it a shove. You light your arrow and you fire.
36:18Judkins should be okay. This is a. But I'm saying, if he's bad in this matchup, I don't know when you're going to have hope to actually play.
36:27Judkins is like a start of the week candidate because you don't want to start him, but you can't bench him against the Panthers.
36:35There were two players in my start of the week finalists.
36:38I don't know if you saw that, Judkins. No, I didn't.
36:42It was David Montgomery and Quinchon Judkins. Yeah. And I didn't choose Judkins on purpose.
36:46I don't blame you. You're holding your breath. I mean, but those are the type of players where people are going to really, really want to bench.
36:55And it should work. Carolina's dead last in giving up yards per carry, rushing touchdowns allowed, and EPA per rush.
37:01If you look at the last. This is the time, Judkins.
37:05You better show up. That's so far this year.
37:08Also, they sucked last year. And the year prior, they were one of the worst of all time against the run.
37:15This. Run funnel, baby. Come on. New York Jets 1-1.
37:18Detroit Lions 1-1. Vegas line is Detroit minus 6.5 over under 46.
37:227.5. Under a touchdown, huh? Yeah. I mean, this is the game to me that is going to tell me a heck
37:29of a lot about the Detroit Lions long-term situation.
37:32Because I think this should be the game that they destroy.
37:35Yes. It should be. At home against the Jets.
37:38The Aaron Glenn revenge game. Whatever. They should massacre the Jets in this game.
37:43And if they don't, it will tell me that they don't quite have the defensive personnel and the vibes right now with
37:50the blobfish to get this thing going at home against the Jets.
37:53But the nice thing is for fantasy players, the over has hit in each of the last six Detroit games.
38:00It's a 47.5 already. That's cool. Yeah. We'll take that.
38:03Start of the week, Jason. Jared Goff. I love Goff at home.
38:07I mean, you're going to love all the Lions pretty much every week.
38:11I don't know. There's one to talk about. Yeah.
38:14I'm still throwing Jameson Williams out there. Okay. I mean, Jameson Williams is the type of player when you drafted him, you knew you were getting volatility.
38:23You knew you were going to have some games where you had an absolute dud of a matchup.
38:28But you keep him in. First of all, you were drafting him as your wide receiver three.
38:34You were drafting him as a flex. This isn't a guy you were drafting in the third round.
38:40He is out there to go nuclear and win you matchups.
38:43And that is worth taking some of the duds along the way.
38:47Because as opposed to finding someone off the waivers who's getting eight targets every game and who's going to get out there
38:54and give you seven fantasy points or eight fantasy points or nine fantasy points regularly, that's not going to help you win matchups.
39:02You put Jameson Williams in. So you'd start him over like a popular free agent pickup this week, Adonai Mitchell, who is
39:09currently ahead of Garrett Wilson in target share. Yeah.
39:11Speaking of targets, what if I told you my boy Isaac Tesla had one more target than J-Mo Williams last week?
39:18I'm not worried about that. If at the end of the season he has more targets than Jameson Williams, I will eat my shorts.
39:26Yeah. I mean, the J-Mo played 97% of snaps.
39:29I'm mostly with you on everything you said. You know what's funny about this game?
39:34I was looking at someone put together the pace of play of matchups.
39:38I think it was Jared Smola. I apologize if I'm getting that wrong.
39:42And it was like based on both teams in the game.
39:46You look at the pace of both teams. You go, okay, what's the pace of the game environment?
39:51And I saw this matchup and they were like bottom five and I was like, what?
39:56Oh. The Lions? How is that possible? The Lions are top five in the league in pace of play.
40:03And that's how slow the Jets are playing right now.
40:06That when you combine them, they're like one of the slowest games.
40:10It's outrageous. Yeah. Very tortoise-y. The Geno Smith-Ludd Jets have yet to commit a turnover this year.
40:15But Geno will be under fire. You know, the Aiden Hutchinson, Lions' highest pressure rate in the NFL.
40:21It'll be put to the test. Brees Hall? Yeah, you play him.
40:25You play Garrett Wilson. And I think you play Adonai Mitchell this week.
40:29I'm okay with it. I would play him over Boston in the previous game.
40:33So I like him more than Denzel Boston. You should put Kenyon Sadiq on your bench.
40:38There was a start-sit question that Brooks put in here.
40:42I'm sorry. I'm going to say it out loud.
40:45Would you start Adonai Mitchell in this game or Adonai Mitchell in this game?
40:49Oh, man. I'd go with A.D. Mitchell. It was Kyle.
40:52Oh, Kyle. Brooks would never. Yeah. Kyle, do you feel comfortable with me letting the people know what you're going through right now?
41:00Oh, that is probably related. Sure. Oh, that didn't sound like a man who actually.
41:04Well, because you're like, hey, I'm going to do this thing.
41:08You cool? That's a fair point. He might not have the cognition, though, to reply.
41:13Kyle was hit in the head with a baseball this week.
41:16He was being a good dad pitcher for his league.
41:20Good dad, bad baseball player. I believe he said that he was a kid that was way too old.
41:26Yeah, his kids are all like they're in a 10-year-old league.
41:29And then some 13-year-old came up there. And now I'm picturing him as like, this kid's gigantic.
41:35Oh, for sure. He dropped off the keys after he got out of his truck, walked up here.
41:40And he took a line drive. He just fired a piss missile right into your head?
41:46He did. We're going to go. Brady would love that term there.
41:49Jason would, too. But he literally hit a line drive off of Kyle.
41:54And I was like, well, were you behind a pitching screen?
41:57And he said, yes. It was too fast. Wow.
42:00So Kyle's been actually dealing with, I would say, a trauma no dad thought they'd deal with.
42:05Not in the 10-year-old baseball league. It was unbelievable.
42:08Heal up, Kyle. So in other words, yeah, I would take Adonai Mitchell versus Adonai Mitchell in this one.
42:14Seems like he's going to be out this week.
42:17Kenyu Sadiq, first round pick, very athletic player. We didn't particularly love him and his production profile.
42:23But draft capital and opportunity here says that Sadiq is someone to pay attention to.
42:28And athletic profile. We talk about it. Yes. When you look at athletic profiles, it doesn't matter that much at most positions.
42:35But tight end, that is like almost always required to be good at fantasy.
42:39And he is off the charts. Perfect matchup for him with Miausen out.
42:43So yeah, I mean, it's not one that, like all those other names we were talking about earlier, the Darren Waller, the Terrence Ferguson.
42:51I'm going to start those guys over Sadiq. I want Sadiq on my bench.
42:56But a DFS play? Some kind of surprising, you know, if you can find, you know, I don't know what prize picks
43:03line is on him, but that might be. I'd probably still go Waller.
43:07I'm just bringing them up of like, if you're.
43:10Could be a breakout game. If you're wading through the mucky muck of the tight end position, this is like, this is
43:17the situation where, okay, first round pick shows up because the starter is out and then the, and that first runner has a great game.
43:25It's like, it's done. He'll just take the job.
43:28Yeah. Yeah. That, um, it's Jason's point, by the way.
43:31So you have golf in this one as your start of the week.
43:35So Sadiq right now looks like 25 and a half receiving yards on.
43:39That's a prize picks projection. Okay. Um, Houston. Oh, and two taking on the own to Indianapolis Colts.
43:45The Vegas line is Houston minus two and a half.
43:48The overrunner is 42 and a half. Okay. Here we go.
43:52I, you know, that the Houston. Which part is the cackle is just that they're both going to.
43:58I mean, the spread. Where are we, where are we going?
44:01The spread. And the fact that like, you know, I still look at Houston's defense as a top tier defense, but we,
44:08we have yet to get that kind of prolific performance so far.
44:12The Colts had a heck of a battle against the chiefs made it a game.
44:17They've fallen short. The last couple of weeks. I just don't, I don't know how complicated the start sit decisions are, but I don't think Nico's not practicing.
44:26And so I don't think you're going to have him.
44:29And so outside of the doctor in Montgomery, is that the whole offense?
44:33Is it consolidated for Houston? Uh, yeah. For fantasy, it's pretty, it's pretty gross.
44:38Cause it's like Hutchinson is, it's he'll get targets.
44:41He's just, it's not him. So I don't know.
44:43I don't, I mean, Jalen Noel, if you're wanting to get disgusting.
44:47Yeah. I mean, it's, it's a really good matchup, um, you know, against the Colts D you want to target.
44:54This is why we like David Montgomery and Dalton Schultz.
44:57I do think someone else will, you know, we'll have a good game.
45:01It's just one of those things where I mentioned Noel.
45:04Can you, yeah. Is Jared Wayne going to be the guy, you know, you just don't know.
45:10Where the ball's going to go. All right, pilgrim.
45:13It's me. Uh, yeah. I don't, I don't know that you can confidently start booty Hutchinson, Noel Wayne.
45:18So start the doctor. Who's booty Hutchinson? Booty Hutchinson.
45:21If they put them. Is that one? If I got both of their scores, I would absolutely start them in this game.
45:28Sounds like that's who Jared Wayne would fight in the wild west.
45:32Oh, booty Hutchinson. Oh. Oh yeah. Oh, booty. This town's not big enough.
45:36Uh, we're doing a lot of impressions today. We really are.
45:40By the way, I like the Josh. And really good ones.
45:43Really good. Uh, Josh down started the week for Mike.
45:47I like him a lot in this game, but I will say this.
45:51If you want to buy low opportunity, the moment is now on Tyler Warren.
45:55Alec Pierce is going to miss an extended period of time.
45:59Um, I think that, I think that Tyler Warren is going to be a beneficiary of the consolidation of targets.
46:05We haven't had the yardage there. We've had the touchdowns.
46:08Otherwise he'd be, I mean, you would be talking about Tyler Warren right now in the same breath as Loveland and everybody in pits.
46:16It's the only saving grace is that the 30 something yards he's got comes with a touchdown right now.
46:22Yeah. It's so weird. He is a yak machine.
46:25That was what he was in college. That was what he was last year.
46:30I mean, he led all pass catchers in yards after catch through the first, uh, three weeks of the NFL season last year.
46:37Now all of a sudden three point eight per catch last year is 10.8.
46:42Yeah. I mean, it's like he's by low. He is not, he really doesn't look like the same monster out there, but
46:49I mean that, you know, you have a couple down weeks.
46:52I agree with you. This is a very good buy low opportunity.
46:56Uh, he should have a better rest of season.
46:59And, uh, is Keenan Allen going to be on this team the rest of the season?
47:04Probably because of injuries, but not because of play.
47:07I mean, he, it was weird, man. I, two drops hitting him in the chest.
47:12Keenan like that is just not normal. And the, his, they're still talking about his suspension.
47:17I believe that that is pushed. It's yeah. It got pushed.
47:20I miss the last. I think it might happen this season.
47:24Yeah. Unless you saw something like in the last day, they've been talking about it.
47:29I mean my, what my information was probably four days ago where it was like, basically he's going to get a three
47:36game suspension, but it'll probably play out after the, Oh, they think it'll be after, after the court proceedings, which will probably be after the season.
47:44So, okay. I got you. Yeah. Well he, you know, when you're close to retirement, that's a real sneaky technique.
47:51Yeah. It's like, Oh, why don't we just push this off?
47:54Let's say just to the end of this season.
47:57I'll totally accept that. Whatever you decide. Give me a 20 game suspension after the season.
48:02That's right. Kansas city two and O taking on the O and two Miami dolphins, Kansas city minus 10 and a half
48:09on the road over under 46 and a half.
48:12That's that's cute. Yeah. It should be more only giving them 10 and a half.
48:17Come on. The chiefs are 28 and three whenever they're double digit favorites, but they have failed to cover the spread in 55% of those things.
48:25I mean, the chiefs look amazing and the dolphins look terrible.
48:29So, uh, there you go. And you take the one player, the only player in the passing offense that kind of looked
48:36like he had some sort of rapport with Malik Willis, Caleb Douglas, and you throw them on to, you know, the practice report with ankle injury.
48:44I doubt Caleb Douglas plays this week. I'm not sure that outside of HN, you can play a dolphin.
48:50No, I don't, I don't think you can. I mean, we're excited for the prospect, the future of Chris bell as a good wide receiver and a rookie.
48:59This isn't the game for him. Malik Washington should get the most targets.
49:03If you're in a two point per reception league, you know, point per target league, dolphin only league.
49:09Um, you know, you, you, you can throw him out there, but I think you're right.
49:14It's basically Devon HN and check out. And the fact that they are not using Malik Willis's brother is bring it up.
49:21I believe Kirk cousins has more rushing attempts than Malik will.
49:25And heart. It's brought it to our attention or to my attention.
49:29I'll say Kirk cousins with more rushing attempts than Malik will us on the year as of right now.
49:35And that is what you have a superpower that you're doing.
49:38What are you doing? No, it's dumb. I mean, it, it was part of the argument from Malik Willis was like, you unlock everything.
49:46Why would you bring him in and pay him that money and not say, dude, you need to run like this.
49:53You change the offense. If, if you're just going to be a pocket passer.
49:57Yeah. Then a bunch of rookies and nobody's. Then what are, what are we even doing here?
50:03We're going for that number one pick. Uh, I will say play Mahomes, Walker rice and Kelsey on the chief side.
50:10Week one, six rushing attempts for 39 yards last week was bad, but I don't think that's the norm.
50:16Malik will run. I believe he will run, but it's like, how can that even possibly happen?
50:21That just can't happen. Especially when you're having no success moving the football.
50:25Right. And you know, the night, the nice thing I will say about a chant is that when they are the worst, he's still fine.
50:33You know, uh, last week was 20 for 74 on the ground, three catches for 19 yards.
50:39Hasn't gotten in the end zone yet. That was a big concern.
50:43He won't very many times this year. Uh, it, it does seem like that will be a challenge for this team until
50:50they find some sort of momentum on offense. But yeah, Walker Mahomes rice only targeted on 11% of routes, but look that
50:57this is a heavy favorite situation with a 28 and a half point implied point total.
51:02It's the second highest of the year. If you don't play rice here, why would you play him ever?
51:08Sure. Yeah. I mean, this is, this also could be a game though, where not only is Kenneth Walker awesome, but I
51:15think you could start Emmett the same way that, um, Mike, you're saying you can start Blake Corum.
51:21Now we know Blake Corum is going to get more work than Emmett.
51:25Uh, Emmett Johnson, their rookie who's looked great behind Kenneth Walker, but I believe the fourth quarter of this game.
51:31Emmett might game script the whole entire fourth quarter.
51:34That's what I mean. He might get 10 carries just in the fourth.
51:38And if, if you give him enough carries against this Dolphins offense, he's like a manual Wilson last week.
51:45Exactly. Yeah. I'm with you. Sneaky. Tennessee. Oh, and two taking on the one-on-one New York giants.
51:50This is the lowest over under the week. Giants minus three at home.
51:5438 and a half is the over under. Ooh.
51:57Is that good? Dude. Where's that toilet sound effect?
52:00That is flush this game. We can get there.
52:03I feel like I'll leave that to, uh, we'll leave that to Al.
52:07That's all I have for you. Okay. Well, um, we'll play it.
52:11Would it be helpful to tell you that in a game in which, oh gosh, it's a long one.
52:17Oh man. Brace yourselves. This is reminding me of your Browns.
52:21Oh yeah. Of course. And Brown discussions. Yeah. Uh, okay.
52:24We got to stop the toilet. It's a real long flush.
52:27Um, 80, uh, 68% chance of rain, potentially high winds.
52:31Awesome. Oh, perfect. That's what this game building a game plan around Jameis Winston.
52:35We need to slow this thing down. I mean, Winston was 11 for 27 last week.
52:40You're pushing 30% completion. Yep. Cam Scadaboo is your start of the week.
52:44I mean, I don't feel a lot of confidence with Malik Nabors right now.
52:49No, I don't either. Um, this is especially with the wind with his shoulder.
52:53I think Malik Nabors is one of those players where he's not a guaranteed start.
52:58Um, the, the, the worry here is a lot of different things can go wrong, but with a shoulder injury that popped
53:05out of the socket last week and then he basically wasn't targeted.
53:09It's hard to imagine benching him, but I don't, I don't think that's the wrong move necessarily.
53:14I mean, I think you're. Would you go all the way down to the Denzel Boston Adonai?
53:20No, I don't think I could do that. I don't think.
53:23Would you go to Rashad Bateman if he's alone?
53:26Cause they flowers, by the way, not practicing again today.
53:30Would you play Bateman? No, I don't think so.
53:32Yeah. I wouldn't want to. I would rather trust that the game plan, like a lot of times a backup quarterback comes
53:40in flustered, didn't practice with the ones. Now you get a week of practice.
53:44Winston has the arm strength. The way the Rams were playing.
53:48I honestly think that Jackson darts line would have looked not much better.
53:52Yeah. I think, you know, if you've got other options like a Devante Adams or Ladd or Ted Arroa or.
53:58So really, really, if you have like really good.
54:01Well, like Jameson Williams. Jameson Williams hasn't been playing.
54:04I'd play Malik. Yeah. I would too. Okay. Yeah.
54:07Let's, uh, let's be quick though. On the other side, zero dot zero starters.
54:11What sucks is. I mean, two ankle injuries for Spears and Pollard.
54:15Pollard and Spears did not practice. Uh, I believe it was due to, they, they said ankle, but I also saw some,
54:22uh, the general was reporting for, for duty. Yes.
54:25General Soreness. Yes. We know him well. Because. The older I get.
54:29The. Pollard should be playable in this matchup. The giants.
54:32Like they're, they're not able to stop running backs and Tony Pollard should see a bunch of carries.
54:38It. It's disgusting. I understand. And if you're looking at that actual start, sit decision, you're like, I can't live with myself
54:45if I do this, but I think Pollard should be okay.
54:49Yeah. Carnal Tate is a, uh, bench right now.
54:51Yeah. Yeah. I mean, in a game with bad weather, low over under, I don't, I mean, he, he's got the talent
54:58to take anything to the house, but a lot of those other middling guys that you are far more confident that in
55:06the passing game in targets heading their direction. I think this is a bench week for Carnal Tate.
55:11You, you could feel more confident about that house call.
55:15If he could see a target that's 20 yards down the field, which he has yet to see this entire year, they're not taking shots.
55:23That's putting a lot more on. That's his superpower.
55:25Yeah. But they didn't want to do it. They said, no, you gotta let him fly.
55:31There is at least. They're, they're tating their time on this one.
55:34Swish. Okay, good. You got it in there, man.
55:37That was close. That was close to being a.
55:40I thought it was a misspeak at first. And then they're like, no, it was just a good old fashioned footballers pun.
55:47There. Yeah. I don't think I've ever switched before.
55:50That might be my first switch on the show.
55:53I think that. It felt it. It felt important to get that in there.
55:58They just need to throw the ball more. And I don't expect it to happen in this specific matchup.
56:04He's got 24% target share, which is like for a rookie through two weeks.
56:08You're going, okay, that's not bad. It's the biggest slice of a turd pie though with this.
56:14But yeah, it's a small turd pie. Yeah. He needs.
56:17Yeah. So they need to like, they need to bake a new pie.
56:21Dude. We got to take a break. It's really limited touches because it was seven carries a week one, 14 carries in week two.
56:29Tony Pollard is running for 4.7, man. You just, you are in love with Tony Pollard.
56:34If he's healthy, I guess Mike would start him over Judkins.
56:37We know this. I don't hate it. I mean, Judkins has got a great matchup.
56:42Which, which do you take? We got to take a break.
56:46Give me an answer. Judkins. Judkins. All right. Well, he just said Judkins.
56:50Yeah. Clip that. All right. We'll be back. We'll be back.
56:53I had to say Judkins or Pollard. You were going to say clip it no matter what I said.
57:00Yes, I was. Here we go. It's a trap.
57:02The 2-0. Somehow. The 2-0 Cincinnati Bengals. They travel to Pittsburgh to take on.
57:07Well, I say somehow because they don't ever start a season well.
57:11Oh, okay. I mean, it does seem like a fair comment.
57:14Yeah. They normally start falling on their faces slash injured.
57:17And it's because of their defense more than their offense through two weeks.
57:222-0 traveling to Pittsburgh who is 1-1. Vegas line Cincinnati minus 3.5.
57:26Over-under 40. Oh! Over-under is 42.5. And I really hate to do this, but I'm going to.
57:31I understand. Andy's almost upset of the week. I am not just almost upset that I did that.
57:37I am fully upset. Yeah. You're wrong, but I understand.
57:40Look, the Steelers offense has been so hard to watch.
57:43Yeah. We did get word that Jalen Warren is back at practice and Rico Dattle still not practicing.
57:49It could be the Warren only experience. Warren was limited.
57:52He's definitely still injured. Michael Pittman was limited, also injured.
57:55But so it's like they're they're kind of there and we're hoping they play.
58:00But what was Metcalf's? That designation. Bad. That he's just a full participant.
58:04He's limited with bad. He's limited with wet farts.
58:07Yeah. Metcalf sucks. This team offense sucks. But for some reason.
58:10So wait, you're calling for an upset, but who do you possibly play?
58:15It's TJ Watt. He's calling for the defense. The passing defense for the Pittsburgh Steelers has been very good.
58:21You know what I just remembered? I need to know that Jalen Ramsey is playing in this football game.
58:27Because I know he missed Wednesday practice. Do we have a Thursday practice report on Ramsey yet?
58:32Because I could I could play that. I could undo that.
58:36If Ramsey's active in this game, the over under is low.
58:39So he is protesting. Okay. This will be this will be an old fashioned AFC North battle.
58:45It's a low over under. I don't think that I haven't seen the Cincinnati offense that I've been like, like I saw,
58:52I saw Jamar Chase make the play of his life on a pretty much an alley-oop.
58:57Like, but I haven't seen amazing. There's been no point during the season where I'm like, man, they are running on every cylinder on the offensive side yet.
59:06It's been the defense. And I think the defense going to Pittsburgh, that'll be a challenge.
59:11And look, you play the players you're going to play in this one.
59:15Jamar Chase, Higgins, Burrow, Chase Brown, easy on the Cincinnati side.
59:19I just think it'll be a dogfight. And I wouldn't expect prolific numbers from them going up against the defense for the Steelers.
59:26That's just the Steelers right now through two weeks.
59:29It's two weeks. And one of them was Cooper Rush.
59:32But they're number one against quarterbacks, two against wideouts, and fifth against tight ends.
59:37They're going to put the pass rush on. The other one was Drake May.
59:41Yeah, but that, I mean, okay. Drake May was a number two quarterback last year, right?
59:46Drake May has been doo-doo since the wild card round.
59:50So the two games, oh, the rest of the playoffs in these two games.
59:54Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's two games, Mike.
59:57I disclaimed it. One of them is Drake May.
60:00But we know what the Steelers' DNA is on the defensive side of the football.
60:05And that part is what keeps them in game.
60:08So, I mean, you wouldn't say this is a plus matchup for the Bengals, would you?
60:13No, no, no, not at all. The Steelers, I mean, you might be forced into playing DK Metcalf.
60:19The targets are there. Maybe someday he will actually convert and something good will happen.
60:24Would you play him or Adonai Mitchell? Oh. I'd be willing to go back to the well with Metcalf this week, personally.
60:31And that is a— That's tough. I like the environment of that Detroit game so much more than this.
60:37That's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I'll probably play Adonai Mitchell.
60:40Also, then I don't have to play DK Metcalf.
60:43But the— That would be one of the keys.
60:46I was going to bring up the mute of, look, Dr.
60:50Schultz against Cincinnati, 12 for 140. Cincinnati, you know, we mentioned Carolina against running backs.
60:55It's like just historical, long enough, it's a disaster.
60:57Cincinnati— We're like eight years running of just target Cincinnati with the tight end position.
61:02Pat Friermuth, yeah, I mean— It's a floor play, but it's—you could definitely do worse.
61:07Yeah, it's a touchdown play. You know, it's like Friermuth—who else can catch a touchdown there?
61:12DK can't. It feels that way. Warren, if he's all alone, yeah.
61:16Sure, take the volume. Take the volume. I— I'm Heidenreich.
61:19You're just saying the name of a player who you recently signed out loud?
61:24Yeah, I was sad to see Jalen Warren— Just throwing names out.
61:28Back at practice because Eli Heidenreich, their late-round rookie running back who, I mean, has an analytical profile in college that is outrageously good.
61:35A very jack-of-all-trades. I just want one week this year where—and I thought it might be coming right now— Where Warren and Rico are— Beautiful butterfly.
61:44Yes. Yes. I want him to turn into a beautiful butterfly.
61:47Eli Heimlich. Eli Heimlich. I'm a cute little bumblebee.
61:50It would be awesome to see him forced into the role where he gets all the opportunity.
61:56I would love to see it, too. He's a perfect fit for Aaron Rodgers checking down the way that Kenny Gainwell did last year.
62:03He's as good a receiver as he is a running back.
62:07You might see him this week. One more game to preview.
62:10Seattle 2-0 against the Washington Commanders who are 0-2 right now.
62:14Oh, my gosh. The lowest implied point total possible this week.
62:1716.8 points for the Commanders. They will not have Jaden Daniels.
62:21Have we gotten any updates? We've had no updates.
62:24And what's wild is—I don't know if you saw this.
62:27Kurt Warner came out and said he suffered the exact same injury in 07 and played the next week.
62:33He said, yeah. He's like, Jaden can play if he wants.
62:37I did. Look, I don't— It's a little bit different, though.
62:40I know we're doctors. It's not just an injury.
62:43It's a redo of the redo. But there's no redo there.
62:47The injury was—they did not repair the ligaments. They are torn already.
62:50The dislocation, I'm sure, causes a bunch of swelling and inflammation and pain.
62:55I bet it hurts. Yes, it hurts. But that might lean itself into the Kurt Warner side of things.
63:01All I know is he throws with one arm and the other arm is hurt.
63:05Generally, when that kind of thing happens, I think a quarterback, if they can catch the football on a snap, I'm shocked that they can't play.
63:14Now, I know that oversimplifies it. I'm not trying to imply that Jaden Daniels is not tough.
63:19I don't know. So I guess I'm implying it a little bit.
63:23But I don't know the details. Kurt's wife responding by saying, quote, yeah, Kurt, and your arm has been messed up since.
63:30That's fair. I mean, it's fair. But, you know, I guess I'm just surprised that we haven't gotten an update.
63:37The no update is very weird. It's Thursday. Yeah, I mean, we had that injury happened.
63:42We had Jackson Dart situation all figured out as of two days ago, basically.
63:46And here we are sitting with Jaden Daniels is like, well, what's going on?
63:51So, look, the point is, is this week the over-under is low, right?
63:55It's 40 and a half. But Seattle's got 24 points implied.
63:58So Seattle's going to be fine. Mike, your stream was either Darnold or Locke, whoever starts.
64:04Yep. I think JSN is obvious. But other than that, do you have a start on Seattle that you feel comfortable with?
64:11And is it Emmanuel Wilson at running back? No.
64:14I mean. I'd play him over Price. You'd play Emmanuel Wilson over Jaden Price?
64:18I think they're going to give Emmanuel Wilson the opportunity to continue what he started last week.
64:23Yeah, I mean, the matchup is, you know, last year the commanders were very bad against the running back position.
64:30I think this is a question you could do worse.
64:33But I think this game is going to be over quickly.
64:37And when I say that, I don't mean, like, the score is going to mean the game's out of reach.
64:43I mean, the game, I think, is going to disappear fast.
64:47Like, you know, sometimes you look up at all the afternoon games and you're like, oh, that game's over already.
64:53I just feel like this is going to be few plays in this game.
64:58It's not a game environment I'm excited to have players a part of.
65:02The commanders are only implied for 16.8 points. That is the lowest of any team this week.
65:07The Seahawks defense is so good. I think that, I mean, that speaks to saying that a running back for Seattle could be good for sure.
65:15And so, Jadarian Price is banged up. That's question number one.
65:19But for what happened last week, I mean, through the first three quarters, it was far closer.
65:24And it was like Jadarian Price in the first half had three more carries.
65:29In the third quarter, Jadarian Price four to three for Wilson.
65:33It was the fourth quarter where Price was hurt and knocked out of the game.
65:37And then they just, they full salted with Emmanuel Wilson.
65:41And Stefan Diggs has found his way into the end zone frequently so far this year.
65:46Yeah, he's on my roster. I would prefer, I'm, I prefer not to play Stefan Diggs with the backup quarterback against Seattle.
65:53I don't want to play any, anybody on Washington.
65:56I don't want to play Bill. I don't want to play Dick.
65:59That'd be Dick White. White. And I don't want to play K-Tron Allen.
66:04So I would be trying to find other options.
66:07Not many people are aware of that name. Dick White?
66:10Yeah. Where did that come from? I don't even know.
66:13I don't know, man. I don't even know. At this point.
66:16Nobody remembers? No. Doesn't matter. Richard. It came from Richard?
66:20Yeah. Instead of Rashad? Yeah, Richard. And then Dick is short for Richard.
66:24Yeah. So then he became Dick White. That can't be how it happened.
66:28That sounds like how it happened. Everybody's nodding over there.
66:31Yeah, because Betts accidentally typed in Richard. Oh, okay.
66:34Yeah, I mean, that sounds exactly how this show works.
66:37That does seem, the math now checks out. So anyway, Bill and Dick.
66:42I will say that usually when Marcus Mariota plays, he just ends up great for fantasy.
66:47He should be rostered. I mean, this matchup against Seattle.
66:50He should be rostered? I think so. I mean.
66:53In a 12-man league? Yeah, I think Marcus Mariota will have good fantasy output as the season goes on.
66:59He, when he gets the opportunities to start, he oftentimes, I mean.
67:03He started eight games last year and averaged 11 fantasy points.
67:06Yeah, but he has those big games in certain matchups.
67:09He had 23.3 against Denver. Well, what's the actual schedule?
67:13Because there's 0.0. I'm not playing him against Seattle.
67:16No, I'm not either. Coming up, Indy. Indianapolis the next week.
67:19Like, he'll probably be our stream of the week.
67:22Yeah, he'll be in week four. I don't think you need to roster him, but sure, pick him up.
67:28A couple injury updates. A.J. Brown, is that a new?
67:31I mean. It was. Looking at six to eight week recovery, I thought we had said that before.
67:37Yeah, maybe they're just confirming it, but it's being reported again.
67:41That's a long time. Yeah. It's a long, long time for a fantasy league.
67:45Zay Flowers not seen participating on Thursday. We talked about it earlier.
67:49He's not out there, and with the international game, I don't know.
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68:31Two weeks in a row. Green Goblin, man. He better be.
68:35You've got to do something with him. Oh, he's going to be in my lineup.
68:39He has to. Rules are rules. He plays tonight, so he can't.
68:43Oh, no. Yes! I'm free! Yes. Yeah, you can't do that.
68:47But I guarantee you he will throw for 400 tonight, and he will rush like eight times.
68:52Oh, for sure. So he'll beat both of the ones that he got you on.
68:57Yeah, he won't, because Christian Watson is going to eat.
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