0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! We're over here reacting to all the waivers.
0:08I need more tight ends! It's not fair! We're in a bunch of leagues and the Ollie Gordon Express took place.
0:15Holy moly! I mean, every league I'm in he's going for over 80 fab, which to me is insane.
0:21Maybe, look it's tough out there in the streets and you want the Dolphins running game.
0:26You would if it was HN out there, obviously.
0:29Of course. And we believe in HN now. Ollie Gordon, he was a prolific...
0:33And not HN. He was a prolific collegiate running back.
0:37Sure! He's a three down kind of guy. Sure he was!
0:40All I'm saying is, I was trying to think of like...
0:44Also a what, a seventh round running back? Well, let me ask you this.
0:48If... The pros loved him. Well, okay. Was he seventh round?
0:52Let me double check. Double check my work. I remember he was definitely talked up and then fell.
0:57Sixth round, I apologize. Sixth round. Much different. Let me ask you this though.
1:02If Brees Hall was out for the year and Braylon Allen is on the waiver wire for the Jets.
1:08Right. Braylon Allen goes for more than 82, right?
1:11Yeah. We should probably go right around there. Now the part, the problem part of the...
1:16And Isaiah Davis will get work this week. Yeah.
1:19With the Jets. Part of the problem I think is not everybody is aligned on Ollie Gordon V Jalen Wright.
1:25Correct. Correct. And we are not 100% certain about that situation.
1:29Jalen Wright was out with a foot injury, higher on the depth chart, Ollie Gordon.
1:33They talk well of him. I've always liked the film.
1:37But then I think the unknown, that's why I'm not...
1:40Yes. That's why on the show yesterday, I'm like, I'm not dropping 80 on a player on the worst offense.
1:46Well, second worst offense, New England, what up? I think it is 100% because it's a season ending injury bet.
1:52Yeah. I get it. Like, I'm not saying it's worth 82.
1:56I didn't bid that. You know what I mean?
1:59A lot of people did. Like, I had H in.
2:02I bid 25. My bid was 25 in the league.
2:05I had H in. I wasn't willing to go hard in the paint there for the Miami offense necessarily, but I'm just
2:12trying to think of the rest of the season.
2:15There's only a handful of not rostered players. Most of the backups are rostered that aren't available out there.
2:21Like the high prolific big time names that are, you know, the Emmitt Johnson, right?
2:26Oh, sure. Like, I mean, obviously if, if Ken Walker went out there, it went out and Emmitt Johnson's on waiver.
2:33That's a hundred dollar fab. That'd be a full fab dump.
2:36But it's like the guys where you, you feel confident that they would take over and that they would be very usable.
2:43Like Brian Robinson. I mean, I don't know what his roster percentage is, but I have to imagine it's in the high 80s, low 90s.
2:51Brian Robinson would go for a ton. That's not an offense we love either.
2:55But he's not as good as, as better than the, as B.
2:59John. It's better than the Dolphins. You know, who's not better than the Dolphins?
3:04You know, who's scored fewer points than the Dolphins?
3:07Oh man, Brian Robinson's roster is way low. The Patriots.
3:10I would. The Patriots are the only team that scored fewer points than the Dolphins this year.
3:15You guys should pick up Brian Robinson. He's 33% rostered on Sleeper.
3:19You guys being our listeners? Yes. Not just the two people you're sitting across.
3:24Certainly not us. He's rostered in our league. He's rostered in our league, yeah.
3:28So yeah, a lot of, you know, our Chop League, we, we had big money spent on Puka Nakua, which is a scary spend.
3:36He went for over 500, right? Scary spend for Chopped because anytime there, you know, it's like if you then don't get
3:43him this week and lose in our Chopped, it was a bad, bad buy.
3:47Yeah, I mean, he's probably, he's probably not playing this week, but another, like in our Chop League, a lot of players
3:54that went this week were players with long-term question marks like Malik Nabors.
3:58What's he worth in a Chop League? Oh man.
4:01Because what is he rest of season? He ended up going for 200 on a thousand dollar budget, which.
4:07If double nines can take care of it. Oh my gosh.
4:11Double nines. Yeah. Because he's 18 now. Yeah. Talking about McCarthy.
4:14Oh, I didn't see that. Is that his number?
4:17Uh-huh. With 18. Oh, yeah. You thought nine was good?
4:20Just wait. Yeah. The second time. Yeah, that's... Times two.
4:23That's why we, we have a trade oriented show today.
4:27We're going to talk about some trade for trade away players on today's episode.
4:31We'll preview the Thursday night game, jump into the mailbag as well.
4:35News to catch you up on. Um, let's start there.
4:38News and notes from around the league. Bears coach Ben Johnson said, we'll see how it plays out this week.
4:44When asked about who will start at quarterback in week four, the Bears play the Jets this week.
4:50Has, it has to be that way. You can't have Case Keenum perform the way that he did on a Monday night
4:57against the Philadelphia Eagles and just automatically throw secret Bajit man in there as your backup.
5:02Secret Bajit man. You have to at least evaluate something.
5:05Yeah, so this was not in the context of the potential return for Caleb because that's still weeks away.
5:11Correct. So yeah, if I, if I'm the Bears, there's no way I don't play Case Keenum this week.
5:18I would be shocked if that's not the decision.
5:20And... Yeah, go ahead. I would say, I would probably put Keenum out there, but the, the percentage chance that Case Keenum
5:27goes out for this game and it is the worst thing that you've ever seen.
5:32Not, not impossible. Not impossible. And the Jets are, they're playing okay.
5:36Jalen McMillan on injured reserve for the Buccaneers. This dude's body does not like football.
5:41No. So yeah, unfortunately... He's flashed a few times when he's been on the field, but that's also been a few times.
5:48Yeah, so Ted Hurst, he continues to get 70 plus percent of the snaps.
5:52I picked him up in League of Record. He, uh, he'll get opportunities.
5:56We, we won't have Baker. You traded him to me.
6:00Did you click the button? I'm about to. I was wondering if you'd do that.
6:04Um, you, because you have too many tight ends.
6:07Yes. Nobody's stupid. Nobody's been outraged at this level.
6:10I need more tight ends. Jason is trying to, he's trying to keep four plus tight ends on his roster.
6:16Our league, which nobody knew. Apparently Andy might've known this.
6:20No one else in our league knew that we had roster limits.
6:23We've literally had the conversation before on the show that you shouldn't have limitations on transactions and who you like to me, it's stupid.
6:31I'm going to bring it to a vote is dumb, but apparently I have found out that we do in our League of Record.
6:39Um, you can only have a maximum of three tight ends and I want more.
6:44Honestly, I want five in today's NFL. I mean, so what is the trade happen?
6:48I'm not. Yeah. I, I, I literally went to, um, make a transaction and put a wide receiver in and it said, Oh, I'm over the limit.
6:57I have four tight ends, which I mean, what was the trade?
7:01Uh, the trade was I needed to get rid of them.
7:04So I traded Darren Waller for $1 of fab and Ted, which yeah, to, to your point of us putting a cap
7:11on how many you can have, who would you rather play this week?
7:15Exactly. Darren Waller by a billion. Yeah. Darren Waller or Tyler Higby.
7:19I look, I have no problem with changing that rule.
7:22I just, it's been funny because it's been back to back weeks where you like you signed three tight ends or whatever
7:29you, you talked about this last week and then you're like, Oh, what, what happened?
7:34I can't do it again. Honestly, I assumed that the sleeper system would not let me pick up more than the limit.
7:41If the limit is three, it wouldn't let me pick up a fourth.
7:45I think that's, I think that's fair. And if we need to change it so you can stockpile your future.
7:52There's so many out there. I want the funniest part is I think two sets of your tight ends.
7:58Aren't they like, well, I got Higby and Ferguson combo.
8:01Yeah. Ferguson and Parkinson too. And just, and Alan don't tip me with a good time.
8:06Go full Rams. I mean, the NFL is not putting a limit on the Rams.
8:11Right. Oh, okay. Tell me I can't play. Oh, five personnel.
8:14Oh, I love this. I don't love this news though.
8:17Packers placing Jaden Reed on injured reserve. He tweeted 11 out.
8:21It looks like it's indefinite to season ending. We don't know for certain, but that's a neck injury.
8:27It was serious. And Jaden Reed, at least according to his Instagram, seems like he's not going to be here for the near term at all.
8:35It'll be interesting because we're going to talk about some players on today's trade episode, uh, trade segment that relate to the green Bay situation.
8:43So we'll, we'll save it. We all say stupid stuff sometimes.
8:46Yeah, we do. Mike, that's a good point. You would know better than most.
8:51I will. I will just letting you know, like, you don't have to say something stupid today.
8:56I'm not going to say anything stupid. Okay. I'm going to say something tempered and well, we'll ask the people.
9:03So I'll say something stupid. Perfect. Dan Quinn said, you're going to read Andy's trade away.
9:08If don't take it personally, there's context to trade.
9:11Okay. Jaden Daniels would be considered limited if it was a full practice today.
9:15I saw a picture of him. He's got a new, a sturdy left arm brace.
9:20Oh yeah. Huh? Something you could have been doing this whole time.
9:24Rashad white dealing with a shoulder injury, receiving treatment for it.
9:27They signed Austin Eckler. And then Jalen Waddle is quote believed to be fine despite being seen in a walking boot on his right foot following the game.
9:36Classic preventative walking boot. Yeah. I mean, it didn't work out well for the coker walking boot.
9:42Yeah. Uh, I guess it was a different injury.
9:44I don't know, but preventative walking boots, put them all in a minute.
9:49If that's the case, if we need to keep these feet safe.
9:52Yeah. I mean, just armor up like these guys during the week, you know, does anyone have Monday through Saturday and in
9:59full Iron Man gear business proposal for you guys?
10:02Yeah. Designer walking boots. Oh, designer. Yeah. Oh, because when they're coming down like on game day and they're in their swag.
10:09When you got the big one where it's like all these Velcro straps that you like.
10:14Yeah. That's ugly. Yeah. That's medical grade. That's not Nike.
10:18Where are you at? Seriously. Nike needs to put a swoosh on that.
10:22No, not Nike. I just gave you the proposal.
10:25Oh, I'm going to create my own brand. We're starting it.
10:28Nike's got to buy this from us. Yes. We just patent pending.
10:32You thinking bedazzled? What are you thinking? I mean, some of them.
10:36Patent leather? Yeah. We're icing them out for sure.
10:39That would change my perspective. I was like, yeah, he looks hurt, but he looks cool.
10:44He looks... Jalen Waddell, I do... He's the only player where fine can correlate to already being hurt.
10:49So we'll see what happens there. The Waddell situation, he should be okay, but he's kind of a scary dude in terms of...
10:57We haven't seen consistency from Waddell since the Tyreek Hill Miami year.
11:01Right. Even though we know how good he is, it's kind of a weird thing and he gets banged up.
11:07But, okay, any other news coming through? I do want to let people know we have some news on our site.
11:14Yes, we do. Like if you're an ultimate Foot Clan member, for the first time ever, we have Dynasty startup rankings available in season.
11:21And not only that, and they're frequently updated, they're used in our trade analyzer, which has Dynasty specific trade advice.
11:28But there's also a new option and I'm so...
11:30Oh, this is so cool. So happy about this.
11:33Because people want to know, and this has been the story of our show forever, that context matters.
11:39Your league mates, what your plan is in a Dynasty league.
11:43Not all rankings are made equal. And so we now have an adjustable bar at the top of the Dynasty rankings that
11:50you can drag from win now all the way to long term and everything in between.
11:55We have a balanced setting, a win now setting and a long term setting.
11:59So it adjusts the rankings based on your actual goals as a Dynasty team.
12:04So we've never had, we've always had Dynasty startup rankings in the UDK plus in the Dynasty past during the off season.
12:11They're now available year round and you can drag that bar to adjust your plan.
12:15So if you're evaluating a trade and you want to look independently, you're going to see who we think are win now players versus long term assets.
12:24So super excited about that. That's all part of the Foot Clan.
12:28Just, we just added it in there yesterday. Team's been working on it with us and the rankings are up there.
12:35Join the foot.com if you want access to it.
12:37It is only a part of the ultimate because that's where the Dynasty pass lives.
12:42That's where the season long stuff is. So if you want to upgrade or you want to jump in there, super cool.
12:49We talked about it a good bit on the today's Dynasty pod and just gave us some examples so you can check that out.
12:57Yeah, no, it's, it's super helpful. Let's talk some trades.
13:00Let's talk trades. Well, this should be fun. And I, I'm open to full on discussion around these players, disagreement, all of that stuff.
13:08Three weeks in, good opportunity to kind of get a lay of the land.
13:12Players that might be outperforming, you know, a reasonable, you know, touchdown number or something to that nature.
13:18Guys that we are choosing as trade for candidates and then players that we're choosing as trade away candidates after three weeks.
13:25So, uh, Mike, why don't you kick it off with the trade for player?
13:29Sure. That's on your list. So the, the trade for, we're trying to find players that we believe are underperforming.
13:36And I would like to highlight Mr. George Pickens of the Dallas Cowboys.
13:40Cause it's just the, the huge game hasn't happened.
13:43I mean, last week was much better. 11 targets, seven for 82.
13:46Like that's a very usable game. We're, we're happy about that.
13:50But the first couple of weeks it was, it was down, even though the Cowboys are still putting up points.
13:56But you looking at the, like behind the scenes metrics, the numbers are actually very good for, for George Pickens, his target
14:03share, his targets per route run, his yards per route run.
14:07Those are all up compared to three weeks into the season for, for last year for the Dallas Cowboys.
14:13It's just that the production is lagging a little bit, you know, no touchdowns.
14:17George Pickens is going to start scoring touchdowns. If it's like, like it will bounce back.
14:22And so he just, the volume is, is still completely there for him.
14:27The schedule. I mean, the upcoming schedule is actually fantastic for him.
14:30Uh, Dallas faces, uh, Dallas wide receivers as of right now face the third easiest rest of season schedule that of course,
14:37rest of season is a little bit tricky right now.
14:41Cause it'll keep a job of data. But the early outlook is it's going to be great for the Dallas passing game.
14:48And CD lamb, you're not gonna be able to trade for CD lamb cause he's been performing.
14:53But if you still want a piece of that Dallas passing offense, then George Pickens, I think you can get him cheaper
15:00than he is going to be in just a couple of weeks.
15:04I think you can get him cheaper than what the perceived value of them was before the season two.
15:10I think, I think maybe there's been a tier change in people's minds.
15:14I don't mind the suggestion at all. I will say the only thing that I think has been definitive through three weeks
15:21that was a question in people's minds with the pick and selection was, is whether is CD lamb still the dude?
15:28Is he still that guy? Is he still elite?
15:31I think we've had that answer pretty definitively in three weeks that, you know, one of the concerns that I had around
15:38CD lamb as somebody who has them on his roster was that this team would kind of do with CD lamb.
15:44What the Arizona Cardinals eventually did with Larry Fitzgerald, which is you had players that came in John Brown, Steve Breston, they
15:51became downfield threats and you saw underneath as kind of the prime, like you stopped, they stopped going deep to Larry after a while.
15:59Sure. My biggest worry was like, are we going to get all bombs go to pickings and all underneath goes to lamb.
16:06Lamb's had the downfield shots in multiple weeks. So I was happy to see that as a lamb manager, but I think
16:13with the zero touchdown numbers, what jumps out and that's going to change.
16:17And targets CD lamb, um, 26 George pickings 25.
16:20Yeah. I mean, it's, it's really, everything is neck and neck between the two of them.
16:25Lamb has just been, I George pickings had a couple nasty drops.
16:29And then this past week CD lamb had that, uh, the, like the freebie reminiscent of, of a championship week a couple
16:36of years ago where the Cowboys are back on what they're.
16:39Oh yeah. He almost had like a 90 yard.
16:42He was a shoestring away from, but like that hit, that hit for CD lamb that hasn't hit yet for George pickings.
16:49And it's definitely going to lamb has a couple touchdowns so far.
16:53Yes. And, uh, yeah, no, I, I think pickings is nothing on the field tells me pickings.
16:59Isn't one B. I saw a tweet that was talking about the most missed opportunities so far in the league and who's
17:06basically underperforming the expectation based on the opportunities they've received.
17:09And it was a list of a bunch of bad players, which makes sense.
17:13Like, oh, they've gotten opportunities. They've failed. And then there was George pickings who is not a bad player at all.
17:20And he was leading, you know, he he's the largest gap.
17:23So I think this is a good, uh, trade for candidate.
17:27His good games are coming. He is not the archetype of a every week, consistent player at the end of the year.
17:34You're going to have a handful of bad games.
17:37Remember last year at the end of the year, it was unfortunate timing.
17:41I think it was fantasy playoffs or right before it was like he had a couple games in a row where, oh, he just disappeared.
17:49Oh, his effort is, you know, it's like he will have bad games and he will also probably finish the year as the wide receiver 15 or better.
17:58And so if he hasn't had those games yet, they're coming.
18:01I like, I like trading for him last year.
18:04He never had a three game stretch where he didn't have a 20 yard catch.
18:09And that's how he started the year. He hasn't had the big play yet.
18:13So, you know, that's kind of wild. Three games in George pickings doesn't have a 20 yard catch.
18:19He's had tons of opportunities. Oh, yeah. And he's also had a couple passenger, uh, interference penalties.
18:25Oh, George is amazing. He and Matthew golden just drawn P eyes.
18:28Yeah. Yeah, no, he's good at that. Uh, I think we all agree that pickings is a nice target right now.
18:35You can get them at a value that will not be the same in a few weeks.
18:40So we'll take a quick break and come back with a couple more trade for candidates, Jason and myself, and then we'll get into some tradeaways.
18:49All right. Coming back into our, uh, trade talk segment, Mike sharing George pickings as his trade for candidate.
18:55And I am going to bring up Jeremiah love.
18:58I think Jeremiah love the moment is now the time is now.
19:01Uh, if you had the opportunity in years past to pick up a Zekia Elliott in week three of his rookie season
19:08or Saquon Barkley or Christian McCaffrey, uh, B John Robinson, this is your moment with Jeremiah love.
19:14And so I think you would only have hesitation.
19:17This is a top five draft pick. This is one of the greatest best graded what, uh, running backs that we've seen heading into the NFL.
19:25And you're sitting here three weeks into the season and the breakout is coming.
19:30The big play is coming and it's on an offense.
19:33That's pretty darn good on a week to week basis.
19:36Like the Cardinals defenses like every metric metric is terrible.
19:39Yes. They're going to be down in a ton of ball games.
19:43Jeremiah love is the past catching back. Jeremiah love got 19.
19:46He had 19.4 fancy points and 26 opportunities last week.
19:50You could argue that it happened. The usage. It basically happened last week, which was, it was surprising the way that they handled the first two weeks.
19:58Oh, this was like a concerted, like we just made this decision and it's happening.
20:03Yeah. It felt like, Oh boy, here we go.
20:06The Cardinals are just going to be as stupid as possible with their, with their draft pick.
20:11They paid Tyler Algier. Now it is Jeremiah love, you know, it's seems like forever ago.
20:16Now he did have the ankle injury in preseason.
20:19So perhaps that the plan was just a, Hey, we're going to make sure he's healthy and ready to go.
20:26So usage, this usage spike in week three, this should be sticky like for, for the top five draft pick.
20:32You gotta, you have to do this. I think there, I think there's some interesting trades that I know you could get done.
20:39I don't know if you would say yes or no to them, but I would be looking at like some of these players that maybe are out.
20:48Like, would you trade Deandre Swift straight up for Jeremiah love?
20:51Yeah. So Deandre Swift is the sixth running back right now in terms of fantasy output.
20:56So that trade on paper, I think you might be able to get done depending on the league that you're in.
21:03But you know, would you trade Ashton Gentry for Jeremiah love?
21:07That may be as a bigger conversation, but I think it would be wise.
21:11I think I would. I think that would be a smart one, man.
21:15Now I don't, I don't, I have Gentry above, or I'm sorry.
21:19I have Jeremiah love above both Swift and Gentry for rest of the season.
21:24Yeah. I don't think I would. I mean, I, I, you know, it's like the Cardinals offense might be good, but the Raiders offense might be good too.
21:32Yeah. I think that that one's really, really close for sure.
21:36Um, but if you could go take Kyron, Kyron is the name and put other pieces with it.
21:42I think Kyron is the, is the perfect name where I would, I would move Kyron or tootin to Jeremiah love.
21:48I mean, you know, they're in good situations. They're good fantasy assets.
21:52They aren't some sort of generational talent. That's what Jeremiah love is.
21:56So if you don't have an absolute top tier fantasy back, if you've got a really good fantasy back, a low end
22:03RB one, I think you try to take the chance that Jeremiah love is a top five running back rest of season and, and in trade form.
22:12Um, but I also view like that is what I think Ashton Gentry is as well.
22:17Yeah. I, I think love, I think your time is now to move on Jeremiah love.
22:22And I think the Cardinals will be in a lot of games at the offense.
22:27We saw them move it. They put up 30 against San Francisco last week.
22:31They had a good week one against the chargers.
22:34They slowed down against Seattle's defense. That's not too everybody surprising.
22:37I mean, Washington didn't, but no, everybody, but Marcus Mariota, of course.
22:41Um, but yeah, I, I think that this is the moment for, for Jeremiah love.
22:46If you can, if you can take advantage and maybe this last week doesn't let you do it, but that's my target.
22:53Yeah. I'm going to go with a back that's in, I think the same tier.
22:58I wouldn't trade him for Jeremiah love, but I would trade for him because he is coming off of a down week.
23:05Uh, and that is chase Brown. Chase Brown has gotten off to a decently slow start.
23:10He was running back 14, 22, 30. He's not been bad.
23:13Nope. Just, but he good. Yeah, but he hasn't been great yet.
23:17However, the opportunity is completely there. He's tied for seventh in routes wrong among running backs.
23:22He's eighth and targets. He's ninth and total opportunities.
23:25And the bangles for some reason, I don't know.
23:28They always, every year get off to a slow start.
23:31This happened last year with chase Brown with the bangles.
23:34I mean, it happens every year. I think extremely bright days are coming for chase Brown.
23:40What we know is he is the dude for this team.
23:43Yes. He is talented. He's getting all the work.
23:46And this is an offense we want a part of.
23:49There's just been some weird outlier stuff. Here's, here's just some crazy thing.
23:53That's just happenstance. It's just randomness. Cincinnati has six total snaps inside the 20 yard line in the last two weeks combined.
24:00That is 31st in the NFL. And for context, the NFL average, the average team gets 10 a game and they have
24:07six in the last two weeks combined. That's where fantasy points are scored.
24:11And so, um, I, I just think he is one of these guys.
24:16It's like, he's a top 10 fantasy running back and he, and you're not going to have to pay most top 10 fantasy running backs.
24:23You just can't acquire. You just can't like there.
24:26People aren't willing to let go of them. I think right now you can make a trade for chase Brown and last year in the league of record.
24:35Cause I went to look for chase Brown. He was on Mike's team.
24:39Yeah, that's correct. From your cold dead hands. I'm sure.
24:43Yeah. So, you know, to me, I think he is, um, a great trade for Canada and I'll just throw out quickly
24:50two other names that I think the opportunity is beyond what the fantasy production has been Cam Scadaboo who I just traded
24:57for in one league and Josh Downs who I just ironically traded away in league of record.
25:02I think those two guys have, um, downs is like my favorite target right now.
25:07Yeah. So the opportunity ahead appears really, really good for both of those players too.
25:12Yeah. I, I think, I think Josh Downs is about to cook and I, Jason had sent some offers out.
25:18He he he's not, I'm playing for next year acquiring to win.
25:22And so he's shipping and shopping Josh Downs. And I was like, he wanted like a, a third round pick in our
25:29league, our keeper league, but you can't trade above a second.
25:32And a third is it's pretty good. And, and I was like, man, I, I can't do that right now, but I bet you could get it.
25:41And I bet even in a couple of weeks, if the value might go up if he stays healthy, but uh, no, I love that one.
25:49Absolutely. Now let's talk about trade away players. Mike, why don't you kick us off?
25:54All right. The player I'm looking to trade away, and this is not a necessarily an over performer where I'm like, I gotta get out.
26:02Um, it's Brock Purdy. And I only bring him.
26:05Oh, you did say you were going to say stupid stuff.
26:08I don't mind this. I don't know. Your, your argument for this guy is the same argument I'm going to have for my guy.
26:16No. So you understand. Right. But my argument for Brock Purdy is that there are other teams who are desperate for quarterback
26:23and they, I think they might have big eyes where like, if you have, you know, we've brought it up, but Drake
26:30may Herbert, or you have one of the injured guys.
26:33My recommendation for the most part would just be figure it out streaming off of the waiver wire because players are there.
26:40Matchups are there to be had. We have a weekly segment, uh, every single week, but that's not how everyone likes to play fantasy football.
26:48Some people just want to have their stud quarterback.
26:51And I think that you can trade Brock Purdy, get a bunch, and then you can still be okay at the quarterback position.
26:58That's, that's where I think he truly is overperforming.
27:01He's not, he's not going to be the number two quarterback rest of season.
27:06Let's put it that way. I like he's not with the amount of injuries they have at the wide receiver position.
27:12Brock Purdy is an easy, to me, an easy top 10 guy.
27:16Top five is not outrageous to me. I like, I, I really like Brock Purdy.
27:21I just think that this is a good strategic move with what has happened to the quarterback landscape, fix the rest of
27:28your roster for a position that you can more easily replace off of the waiver wire.
27:33I just don't know if people like we see Brock Purdy as a, an elite quarterback.
27:38He's, he is great. I don't think most people do.
27:41I mean, you look at where he was in drafts before the season.
27:45I'm not sure people are going to pay up like in general, what you're saying, I agree with he's the, he's the quarterback too.
27:53He's not going to finish as a quarterback too.
27:56He's got injuries around him. He's far more expendable to me.
27:59I agree with that. I just don't know that a manager might want to anybody is paying number two quarterback prices for Brock Purdy.
28:07Also it's worth noting. They got positive news, but Trent Williams, when, when Trent Williams, they're all generational left tackle went down.
28:14And I was like, Oh, trade, trade away. These guys, he had a neck stinger.
28:19It was checked out. It's not serious. He should be back.
28:22But at the same time, he's dealt with that a few times.
28:26He's missed games for that before. So, um, that would be very scary.
28:30I mean, you know, all of their injuries. I mean, they don't have any wide receivers left.
28:36If Mike Evans does not get back and get healthy at some point that does come to call.
28:41You're not going to get the same plays out of Jordan Watkins that you're going to get out of Mike Evans.
28:48Um, and so I'm just agreeing with you that like, I think Purdy's going to be fantastic.
28:54Like Kittle's there. Yeah. And, and Debo's there who caught zero passes this last week.
28:58How dare you? But he had 80 yards. He was receiving yards.
29:02Um, yeah. Purdy's the only quarterback in the NFL that has not been sacked one time.
29:07He's a, he is a very good quarterback. And you could be right, Jay, that the value name wise.
29:13He doesn't, he's not Lamar. He's not one of those types of players, but it'd get into the negotiations.
29:19Show the, show the fantasy points. I don't know.
29:22I feel like you can sell Brock Purdy and be all right.
29:26I, the name that Mike says is stupid to bring up in this segment is I get both sides of it.
29:33Is currently the wide receiver for in fantasy. And Mike, of course, is going to take this personally because this is Mike's my guy.
29:40Cause I said, draft him. He's going to be awesome.
29:44And he's been awesome. So trade him away. So Christian Watson is look trading in fantasy is all about value.
29:50It's about what do you get for the player?
29:53And do I believe that Christian Watson is going to score 23 touchdowns?
29:57Oh no. Do you? I don't think. No, no, no, no.
30:00He's on pace for 23 touchdowns. Do I think he passes 1600 receiving years?
30:05Maybe. I don't think that's going to happen. Um, near a hundred catches.
30:09I don't think that's going to happen. Now I could.
30:12My point with the trade away candidate of Christian Watson is not, you trade at all costs.
30:18It's the same argument you just made with Brock Purdy.
30:21It is trade. If you have the opportunity to take advantage of where he's positioned, he has four touchdowns through three weeks.
30:28You have a team that has not been able to run the football that would like the identity of this team to be able to run the football.
30:37I think they signed two different offensive linemen this week.
30:40We'll see what happens with Josh Jacobs. I think Watson is he the number four overall receiver at the end of the year?
30:47I think there's no chance of that. Is he top 10?
30:51Probably. But if I can go out and I can turn Christian Watson into Chris Olave in a trade, if I can
30:58turn Christian Watson into Garrett Wilson in a trade, those are situations.
31:02And I might even get a little bit more depending on the names that you pick there.
31:07That's something I'm going to look into because I think he's the inverse of Pickens right now.
31:12Like Pickens has no touchdowns. He is overproducing. For a target perspective, like you look at the top players in fantasy right
31:19now, target wise, 36 for JSN, 35 for Amon Ross St.
31:23Brown, 36 for Chris Olave. Watson's at 29. It's not a bad number.
31:27Golden has more targets than he does on the season.
31:30And Golden has one touchdown. From a statistical standpoint, they're pretty comparable.
31:34He's just scored four times. And he's going to score a lot of touchdowns.
31:39He's probably going to be a 10-touchdown guy. I don't think he's a 23-touchdown guy.
31:43So I'm just saying you may be able to take advantage of this window where everyone's bought in.
31:49He is an injury risk. He just is. That's just the nature of Christian Watson.
31:54If I could get out of Christian Watson for a less injury risk player, maybe Olave is not the answer to that question.
32:01He could currently be injured. Like, I was pulling up the Packers practice report.
32:06I'm going to be surprised if I see full participant this week for Christian Watson.
32:10And hopefully he is. I think Mike mentioned it at the end of yesterday's show.
32:15But it was like, the last play of the game, he kind of looked like he pulled his hand me a little.
32:22But it was not reported. You know, who knows?
32:25Maybe it's absolutely nothing. We just are always worried about Christian Watson's hamstrings.
32:29I love Christian Watson. He looks like he's going to be the clear wide receiver one for a team that can pass the ball.
32:37He is always good for fantasy points when he's on the field.
32:41I want him on my team. If I had him on my team, I would be trying to trade high.
32:47Because it's not, you know, Mike, you loved where he was in the draft.
32:51You thought he was going to be great. He's been great.
32:55He's been a great pick. You know, succeed on your mind guy.
32:59If you then trade him at the value that he deserves, if you're trading him at a top tier value, it's a guaranteed win.
33:06Your draft pick was a great pick no matter what, even if he does well.
33:11Can I just, I'll just like jackknife a trade four candidate in there.
33:15I think Matthew Golden is a trade four candidate.
33:18I totally agree. If you look at the numbers outside of touchdowns exclusively, they're almost identical seasons for these two players.
33:2517 catches on 29 targets for Watson for 284 yards.
33:2815 catches on 30 targets for 253 yards for Golden.
33:31They're very similar production. They're being used in similar ways down the field.
33:35Their yards per catch, 16.9 for Golden, 16.7 for Watson.
33:39Go trade for Golden if people don't buy in.
33:41They were burned all rookie year. Golden, I think, is a great one.
33:46Because Watson is, we're soaring with the Eagles. With Christian Watson, people may not realize how close Matthew Golden is.
33:52The target share is going to be split. Now you have Jaden Reed probably out for the year.
33:58Yeah, Sky Moore. Yeah, so now it's Sky Moore as the slot wide receiver.
34:02Yeah, it's crazy. That concerns me even less than Jaden Reed when it comes to a target competition.
34:08Where I am at with... I think the touchdowns may start to, sorry, to just say, like Tucker Craft getting acclimated to
34:15the offense, that could be where some touchdowns end up.
34:18It's the... Where it's difficult for me is, like, if you guys want to look at your rest of season, like I
34:25have Watson right now at wide receiver 10, rest of year.
34:29So it's like there's not a... Not a lot of room.
34:32There's not a lot of room. Olave, maybe. No, I mean, definitely I'd prefer Olave.
34:37I don't know if you'd be able to get him.
34:40Would you trade Watson for Nico Collins? No. Ooh.
34:43No, I would not. So I have Nico one spot higher in rest of season rankings.
34:48Would you trade Devontae Adams? Would you trade him for Devontae Adams?
34:52Oh, I would prefer Christian Watson. Jefferson? Jefferson is the...
34:55That was the name I was going to bring up where it's like...
34:59It sounds insane at the... It would even bring up the discussion, but just truly think about it.
35:05Like, where the Minnesota Vikings are... We still have no evidence of Kyler Murray being able to get it done for Justin Jefferson.
35:12We know how bad it can go for Jefferson if they don't have proper quarterback play.
35:17Yeah, the second week for Jefferson was not good with no proper quarterback play.
35:22Would you trade... If somebody sent you an offer right now, Mike, do you have Christian Watson anywhere?
35:28In a couple spots, yeah. Somebody sent you an offer for Puka Nakua?
35:32Oh, man. You would have to take that. I mean, you would probably want to take it, but you could find out tomorrow he's having surgery.
35:40I thought that was maybe the most agonizing question I could ask.
35:44Puka is... What do you even do? Puka's the hardest one.
35:47I don't know. Because Puka could go out this week.
35:50Or he could play this week. That's what I mean.
35:54I'm saying he could play this week and you're like, okay, everything is in the...
35:5864 targets. It's in the mirror. Puka's still great for the Rams.
36:02Not a crazy question. All right. Let's say... Now let's make Puka the trade-away candidate.
36:07I'll give it. Would you... If you had Puka, would you trade him away right now for Parker Washington?
36:13No. I was looking at them in my rest of the season rankings.
36:17These are the kind of sound bites that come back on Twitter in six weeks.
36:22I have Parker at 11. I got Parker at 7.
36:25Oh, dude. I have Parker at 7 as well.
36:28Behind Puka by 1. Same. Yeah. I mean, would you trade Puka for Zay Flowers?
36:33Might. Ah! I feel like Puka, the answer to this question, if you have Puka, hold him.
36:38If he's somewhere else, don't trade for him. I feel like that's the recipe for Puka.
36:43How much risk do you want to take? Flowers has his own hamstring risk.
36:48Puka could win you the year. And that's the thing is that to win a championship, you usually need...
36:54I was talking about this with Andy this morning.
36:57So in our main Dynasty League where Mike is the champion there as well, he has a sensational team.
37:03I've got a very, very good team. I lost two of my three running backs.
37:08But I look at my team and I've got a lot of really good players.
37:12I've got Olave and I've got London, Rushy Rice, Devontae Smith.
37:16But I don't have the guys that are going to go out there and put up 30 points in back-to-back weeks in the playoffs.
37:23Like a Jamar Chase, a JSN, or a Puka.
37:26I just remembered last year's playoffs. I'm sorry. But it's like those players, when it comes...
37:31Like, I'm going to make the playoffs great. But once you're there, do you have those nuclear players?
37:37Do you need a Josh Allen or a Jameer Gibbs or a JSN or a Brock Bowers?
37:43You have to have some of those guys. And so trading...
37:46Puka is such a trade-for-trade-away conundrum. Because right now...
37:49He's your biggest bat in either direction. Yeah. And honestly, sometimes when you're playing fantasy, you've got to think about just pure upside.
37:56And there is not much higher upside than Puka.
37:59And if you could trade for Puka right now and then it turns out he doesn't get surgery, people are afraid of
38:06surgery, and you turn Christian Watson into Puka, that could be a championship type of move.
38:11But it is a gamble. I disagree with one of the guys you said.
38:16I mean, that too. I think Olave can be a guy who, like, he could just go...
38:21That's who I told you this morning. That was the one name I was like.
38:26I think he's a monster. He's so high on my rest of the season rankings.
38:31Yeah, he's at number four for me. But at number five right now for me is Drake London.
38:36Like, Michael Penix... Michael Penix-Drake London games equals fantasy domination.
38:40Like, you can look at Michael Penix and he'll...
38:42The end of the stat line for Michael Penix is not going to be great for him to be a fantasy quarterback.
38:49Yeah, but all he does is throw it to Drake London.
38:53But all he does is throw to Drake London.
38:56PSA to sucky quarterbacks. Throw it to the really good guys every play you can and it works out way better than you think.
39:03Yep. So I'm with Drake London. As long as it stays Michael Penix, which that's a...
39:09Maybe. It wasn't... It wasn't Keenum that was in Houston that just hyper-chucked it at Hopkins, was it?
39:14Oof. I'm trying to remember when they did... I don't remember if they had Osweiler.
39:19Oh, maybe it was Osweiler? Oh, Brock... Yeah. Was it Osweiler?
39:23Because Keenum played in Houston, right? I think so.
39:25I mean, Keenum's had 16 careers, but TJ Yates maybe?
39:29I don't know. Jason, you got to give us a trade-away candidate.
39:32It comes from the same team as Mike's. Yeah, it's another 49er.
39:36I mean, obviously the injury's there. Last man standing.
39:39Last man standing, but honestly it works almost in his favor.
39:43The injury issues and worries about Mike Evans says that the last guy there is Debo Samuel, who has been good.
39:49He's a man. It took you too long to get there, but...
39:53I know, I know. How did he not get a target last week?
39:57Well, see, this is... He was already the last man standing.
40:01How did he not get a target? It lends itself to Jason's argument.
40:05I'm not sure... I think Debo's current abilities are all gadgetry.
40:08Oh, 100%. And not wide receiver-y. Basically, 50% of his routes this year are running back routes.
40:14There you go. They're screens, flats, backfield. I mean, he is...
40:17His average depth of target is 3.4 yards. Which defense against position do you look at for Brock...
40:23Oh, right. To stop him? Is it like, do you look at the wide receiver?
40:28Do you look at the running backs? Right, the matchup.
40:31You know, it's one of those things where there are teams that have lost a lot of players.
40:37Wide receiver, you know, go look at the Jefferson, the Mike Evans team, Jalen Coker, the Puka manager who's struggling, Nico.
40:43You know, there's a lot of teams out there that are like, man, I really need a guy.
40:49And I think this isn't someone that you're selling super high.
40:53You're not getting a star back. But you can get someone who is maybe a struggling young wide receiver back.
40:59Or a middling package Debo to a wide receiver needy team with someone else to get like a Chuba Hubbard.
41:05Who's like, ah, I don't know. I'm not super excited about him.
41:09I don't know that that's going to happen. You know, they're two kind of older seeming players if you need a running back.
41:17Or, you know, Jordan Tyson. That manager who's held on to Jordan Tyson for three weeks, if he has another wide receiver
41:24injury, he might just have to make a move and can't hold injured wide receivers.
41:28Carnell Tate, who's been super disappointing. People might be like, should I drop him?
41:33Who do I start? I've got to get a win this week.
41:37Like, try to flip Debo for some of these other struggling young guys like Roma Dunze, who, I mean, I would rather
41:44have just about all of these people over Debo.
41:47I think Debo's manufactured points are just not reliable.
41:49I don't think he's going to be really anything rest of season.
41:53And right now, he's scored enough fantasy points. I mean, like last week, the 80 receiving yard, you know, play was on one gadget play.
42:01So it's like you can't rely on that. And I think after another couple weeks, you're not going to be able to trade him for anything.
42:09So, yeah, to me, if he was on my roster right now, I'd be shopping him, seeing if I can capitalize on a couple of good fantasy performances.
42:18All right, let's take a break and talk Thursday night.
42:22Thursday night breakdown. The Pittsburgh Steelers 2-1, guys, taking on the 2-1 Cleveland Browns.
42:26Here we are. AFC North battle. Pittsburgh minus 2-1 on the road.
42:30Over-under 38-1, which is right about where the average over-under is for every Pittsburgh-Cleveland game for the last five years.
42:36And the last two games last year were at 38-34.
42:39So, here we are. Two teams above .500. Deshaun Watson on a two-game winning streak.
42:44Aaron Rodgers got it done last week, first .290 in three-game in, what, five years?
42:49So, fantasy-wise, Mike, you'll do the morbid told-you-so with Quinch on Judkins right now.
42:5335th in yards per carry, 35th in rush success rate, 35th in yards before contact.
42:58That's bad because there's only 36 in the sample.
43:01So, that's pretty much the worst starting running back.
43:04If you want to make the case against Ollie Gordon, you got it right here.
43:09Where I don't think any of us think Quinch on Judkins is the 35th best running back in football from a talent perspective.
43:16But on this team, in this situation, with what they're able to do with the offensive line, he is really entering the don't-mess-around-with category, which sucks.
43:24It really does. Because he's a better player than what he is able to do right now.
43:30But the path forward. I mean, we got 18 carries.
43:33So, 20 opportunities last week against Carolina. Yeah, that must have been a bunch of fantasy points, right?
43:39I mean, you got you in the top 24.
43:42But you have to sheer volume your way there.
43:44And he'll get a couple touchdowns along the way.
43:47But overall, it doesn't feel great. This game is disgusting.
43:50Dude, who's going to win? The Steelers are going to win.
43:54No, they're not. What? No, they're not. Not the fans.
43:57Oh, yeah. Yeah, not the fans. Wait, you think the Browns are going to win this game?
44:03I do. Oh, man. I really don't. Since the Browns can't run the ball, they've been passing the ball okay the last couple of weeks.
44:11Deshaun Watson has looked. I'm thinking through this. I think I'm with Mike.
44:15However, the passing defense for the Pittsburgh Steelers this year has been phenomenal.
44:19It's been. TJ Watt's been awesome. Been okay. Yeah.
44:22I mean, it's just they're a very difficult team to throw the ball on.
44:26And so, I don't think Deshaun Watson's going to be able to succeed there.
44:31Judkins hasn't done anything. And their defense is not what it was with Miles Garrett.
44:35So, I think this is definitely the Steelers win this game.
44:39So, we're split on that. But for fantasy purposes, there's not a lot of start-sit decisions.
44:44Jalen Warren? Jalen Warren is talent and volume. You have to play him.
44:48He looked amazing last week. The two players I want to apologize to the most right now is like Jalen Warren and Kyron Williams.
44:56Like three weeks into the season. From an efficiency standpoint, both are better than I thought they'd be.
45:01Yeah. Yeah. Warren certainly got his opportunity with Rico being out.
45:05And Warren's always been a great player. So, with him getting everything, it totally makes sense.
45:10I mean, on the Steelers' side, are we playing any of these wide receivers?
45:15No. Are you still trying to see how it's going to shake out?
45:19I mean, I do think the targets say that you can play Metcalf.
45:23You know, he's on pace for what? Like 136 targets?
45:26No, look, he scored last week. I'm not wanting to.
45:29I'm just saying that, like, if I'm in that category of just I don't know players.
45:34Dude, I mean, he's on pace for 136 targets.
45:37So, that's where it's like, okay, that's a wide receiver one, maybe a wide receiver two.
45:42He's also on pace for 550 yards. Receiving yards.
45:45Do you want to make this game interesting, Jason?
45:48Yeah. Let's do, I dominated you last week on our $100 bet.
45:52If you remember. Yes. I took Bryce Young and he took Justin Herbert.
45:56And they were a point apart. They were a point apart and it was not a lot of points.
46:02Yes. But I dominated. I got $100. So, I've got house money here.
46:06I'll bet you Browns versus Steelers. Oh, okay. I think the Browns will win the game.
46:11And the reason I think they're going to win the game is, you know, you made a good point.
46:17They might not be able to pass the football.
46:20I think they'll hit the under in this game, by the way.
46:24Yeah. Oh, it's going to be disgusting. It's going to be gross.
46:28But the reason I think is that the pass rush and the defensive line for the Browns at home, where they're, by
46:35the way, 7-0 in the last seven Thursday night games, Aaron Rodgers becomes incapable of functioning with any pressure at all.
46:41And there were five players, I think, that got five pressures last week for the Browns.
46:47That's why I think they'll win the game. And now we have something to care about.
46:52No, that's fun. That's easy money. So, yeah, I guess you just became the biggest Aaron Rodgers fan.
46:57That's all I want you to know. Although, I guess it's worse for me.
47:02Yeah, it's definitely worse for you because there were no odds.
47:05So, this is great for me. But the Cleveland rush defense right now, they're allowing an explosive play on 17% of designed runs.
47:13That's the highest in the NFL. And we saw Jalen Warren with some explosive plays back-to-back last week.
47:18So, I think they're going to be able to run on the Browns.
47:23And I just don't think the Browns are going to be able to score.
47:27Yeah, I mean, that's what we're looking at here.
47:30It's a close line. Pits are minus two and a half.
47:33Low over under. Boring game. Don't play players if you don't have to.
47:38Yeah, I would say don't play players if you don't have to.
47:41If you've got another option for that. Fannin, though.
47:44That was where I was going. I'm getting into Fannin.
47:47Fannin is the one guy. Watson finally figured out.
47:50You see the target? Maybe I should throw to him.
47:53You see the target progression here? Three, six, nine.
47:56Oh, 12's on the way. And if you can't pass wide receivers, Jason.
48:00Let's do it. Let's target Fannin. I'm going to give you a disgusting start set question.
48:06DK Metcalf on Thursday against Cleveland or Lad McConkie on the road against Seattle?
48:10Lad. I'll go Lad. Hoping that the ribs are getting better.
48:14Yeah, I want a good wide receiver. But that's not a great matchup either.
48:18Yeah, I mean, that's not a good time. I mean, I just, any Metcalf decision is not a good time.
48:24Can you play both defenses this week? Sure. Yeah.
48:27Okay. Sure. We'll find some silver lining there. And then we'll move on to Mailbag.
48:32Mailbag. Presented by Paramount+. All right. I like it.
48:35The flourish after. You've got to find a spot.
48:38If you have a question for the show, we're here to help.
48:42That's what we do. We want to help you win your week.
48:45You can go to the fantasyfootballers.com and you can click the submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline 302464 TFFB.
48:52We'll start with the voicemail. Hey, Ballers. This is Trevor here.
48:56Big fan of the show. We've got a member of our league that is battered at wide receiver.
49:02And I have Michael Wilson. Would you rather have Michael Wilson or Nico Collins rest of season?
49:07I think I've got an opportunity here. Let me know.
49:10Bye. Okay. Michael Wilson or Nico Collins. So you get the chance to turn Michael Wilson into Nico because they need a
49:17player this week and Nico's out potentially. I mean, do it.
49:21I would do that in a heartbeat. I would absolutely.
49:24We were talking before the show. Nico's a great trade for candidate personally.
49:28Yeah, I agree. They need him. He looked good.
49:31Obviously, dealing with his own hamstring injury sucks for now.
49:34But if you can withstand victories long enough to acquire Nico, I mean, he could be back this week.
49:40He was listed as a decent chance to return in week four.
49:44So, yeah, I would definitely do that. Michael Wilson is a very good wide receiver.
49:49He's clearly the best wide receiver on the Cardinals roster.
49:52He's better than Marvin Harrison. He does everything well.
49:55He had 17 targets last week. But he will never be the number one receiving option.
50:00When Trey McBride is there, he'll be a best number two.
50:03Nico is their one. And so that's a level I would always trade for.
50:08I am very bullish on Michael Wilson finishing, you know, probably in the top 15 to 16 range.
50:14I think he could get there. It seems like the team.
50:17If he gets 17 targets a game, he will.
50:20Yeah. It seems like the team has, you know, last year, Marvin Harrison's injury forced Michael Wilson to show that he could be a one.
50:28And he was dominant. Michael Jerry Rice Wilson. A new regime came in, new head coach, new staff, everything changed.
50:34And now it's like, okay, well, Marvin Harrison is part of the future of this franchise.
50:39And we're three weeks in. And in the third week, they were like, dude, the other wide receiver is way better.
50:46And so I think the transition's been made. I do think Michael Wilson will be good.
50:51And Marvin Harrison is... I mean, he had five targets this week, Jason.
50:55That's a huge uptick. Marv? Yeah. Yeah. 17 for the other guy.
50:59I don't think that they are looking to force Marvin Harrison to be something he's not.
51:04No. And it says something when you come out in press conferences and you have to defend the usage of Marvin Harrison.
51:11And then your answer to that on the field is 17 targets for the other guy.
51:16Yeah. All right. Another voicemail question. Hey, thanks. The baller this play.
51:20And if I get on this, my dad's going to freak out.
51:24But I was wondering if I should play Regan Henderson or Braylon Allen if we can.
51:29Thanks. Love the show. Tell your dad to freak out.
51:32Or Travion Henderson this week with Brie Saul. Brie Saul hasn't been ruled out yet that I've heard, but he's not going to play.
51:40I would play Braylon Allen. I would go volume.
51:43Look, I don't want to discount Travion's potential to randomly show up.
51:47Agreed. But that is what it is right now.
51:49It's not, you don't play him with any guaranteed production.
51:53You play him with a, with a hope that you get a big play.
51:57He's playing the Buffalo Bills and Braylon Allen is playing the Chicago Bears.
52:01Both are decent matchups for running backs. I would play Braylon Allen.
52:05I would play Braylon Allen as well. I think that he'll get enough work in a good matchup where he's looked good.
52:12The Jets have been better. Their offensive line has been improved.
52:16And you just don't know, you don't know what you're going to get with Travion Henderson.
52:21I, the matchup is good. And so I was like, man, should Travion be a star of the week?
52:27No, I can't do that. Should Ramondre be a star of the week?
52:31No, I can't do that. So it's like, uh, yeah, I look, he's becoming an if man right now.
52:37It's like, if you use them in the receiving game, Travo would be awesome.
52:41Yeah. If you give them enough work, he'll break one that way.
52:45I mean, but what this team is so broken right now.
52:49You've got to understand they're the lowest scoring team in football.
52:52Owl dropped Drake may this morning for Austin. Oh my God.
52:56That's where Drake may. What does he have? Like one touchdown and six interceptions.
53:00And he's broken. His confidence is broken. And it's, it's certainly going to change with the, the way that the jets with, with Briece Hall out.
53:08But to this point, it, it's only been Briece Allen and Braylon or Briece Hall and Braylon Allen.
53:14Like they're the only running backs who have actually gotten any sort of work.
53:19Isaiah Davis has not seen us an offensive snap.
53:22Yeah. Yeah. I, I, I, um, I think Braylon's going to be a true, but Isaiah Davis has been active, right?
53:28Has he been active in those games? So that, I mean, that's a great sign.
53:33I'm saying like, and like I see what Andrew Beck has run five routes.
53:37Did we get, didn't we get Braylon Allen alone a couple of times in his career in terms of getting a start?
53:44I was just trying to remember like, I don't want to 24.
53:48I'm not saying Allen is a slam dunk by any means.
53:52Let me see if he ever got more than 12 carries in a game in his career.
53:57And I'm not saying that you're saying that. This is pure volume versus a, a matchup that we can exploit.
54:04Yeah. He's never had more than 12 carries. So he's going to have, I mean, he's only 22 years old.
54:10He's in year three. He had 10 carries with Brees Hall in week one.
54:14All right. So let's see how we do. We'll see what happens.
54:18Question from YouTube. Gabe writing in Tucker craft or Colson Loveland rest of season in a PPR league.
54:24Um, wait, wait, wait. Loveland or who? Craft? Tucker craft.
54:27Like I can tell you if somebody offered me Colson Loveland for Tucker craft right now, I would turn it down.
54:34I mean, I would, I would take Tucker craft.
54:37I think that the target consolidation in green Bay, the Jaden Reed's injury.
54:41It's so there's so many limited options. And I, I, I think Tucker craft is on the uptick and I think Loveland
54:48is going to be a little more hit and miss than we wanted.
54:52So I would, I would turn the trade down if somebody offered me.
54:56I don't mind staying with Tucker craft. After then making that move at this point, you're, you're trying to hit a true
55:03home run where, and like hoping that these three weeks are just, or whatever, I guess after Caleb is back, then things
55:10get back on track for Loveland and he turns into the monster he was at the end of last year.
55:16But if you miss, you're going to miss real, real bad.
55:20Yeah. The issue, maybe I just stay with Tucker.
55:23The issue that I had with Loveland preseason in the draft season was always just target competition.
55:28You know, it's, will he get the targets? Will, or, or, or will it be a Luther game?
55:34And then will it be a, a Rome game?
55:37Will it be a Khalif Raymond game? And it seems like, you know, he's not the primary target.
55:43They're not drawing everything. Like he's not the first read all the time.
55:47You, you wanted him to be a Trey McBride.
55:50Yes. Off powers. He is the primary focus of the offense.
55:53I think through three weeks. And I know we had a rain game.
55:57We had a backup quarterback game and we had a crazy, you know, the running game work.
56:03So we haven't seen their, their standard offense, but at the same time, three weeks in, we know he's not the focus,
56:10the focal point of every week for their offense.
56:13Follow up question by Lucas. Would you rather have Isaiah Likely or Tucker Craft rest of the season?
56:18Tucker Craft. Easy Craft. We don't have Jackson Dart for the rest of the year.
56:23That's one you might be able to get done because Craft's been disappointing.
56:27I think you're probably right. I, I would assume most people would want Craft, but someone out there might be like, yeah, I'll take, I'll take Likely.
56:36And I would definitely go to Craft. I think the Tucker Craft, like notoriety isn't anywhere near the other top end tight ends.
56:43Cause he only had a small run last year.
56:46Right. So if you didn't catch that run of dominance or know that he signed a contract, all that stuff.
56:52It's kind of a, just the nerds. Yes. Um, here's one for the nerds more.
56:57I got two, two trade questions. I think are very difficult.
57:01Maybe, uh, Dylan in long Island. Do I trade Zay flowers for Jeremiah love in a PPR?
57:06I mean, that's perfectly fine. Yeah. That's just about positional.
57:09Yeah. It is about, it is about positional need, but the thing is, is when they're in the same tier and I think they're Zay flowers is good.
57:18Jeremiah love is good. I'll take the running back.
57:21That's where the needs gets, you know, more, more scarce and more needy.
57:25Yeah. I, I, I think you're right where the needs get more needy.
57:29The, the slight hesitation is just the way that flowers has looked this year is like electric something, a special season.
57:36You're getting Antonio Brown vibes. Well, I wasn't saying that, but I just, I mean, like this is a different offense.
57:43I I'm, he's being used different and he is, I'm, I'm just a fit.
57:47Fantastic. I'm just afraid of Mike. I'm just afraid of the year of Mike.
57:52We don't know. We don't have conclusive evidence. It's over yet.
57:55He suffered no injuries anywhere. He drafted perfectly in our league of record.
57:59Those players are all breaking out. And I know people want to make me the enemy this year.
58:05Let me, let me point the, let me point the finger over here to this guy.
58:10It would be much. Mike to go back to back.
58:13It'd be much worse. If I would rather you win than Mike, but I'm telling you all about, you know what that's
58:20about, but I think your odds of winning are much higher than Mike.
58:24Yeah. See, look, I I've already, I'm not going to say it out loud.
58:29I've already figured out all of what Mike's doing rest of the season and how easy it is and how easy it's
58:36going to be for him to make the title game.
58:39Um, and I, and I'm terrified. Uh, Tyler, would you trade?
58:43I'm just doing the best I can. Oh, shut the front door.
58:46Uh, would you trade Cam Scadaboo for Amari and Hampton?
58:50Jason, you just traded for Cam Scadaboo. I just, I also mentioned that I think Cam Scadaboo was a good trade for candidate.
58:57Uh, the workload has been there. Last week was a super rainy game.
59:01He averaged three yards per attempt, but it was like a sloshy, you know, everybody's up at the line of scrimmage.
59:08Uh, the, the game was 12 to seven. Uh, that being said, he got 20 carries.
59:13Four targets. He's going to get the work. Um, uh, you know, I, I, I think I, I think I take, man, can we get a zoom?
59:21Is there a slow zoom we could put on Jason?
59:25I would take both do that in post. Both Cam Scadaboo and Amari and Hampton.
59:29Who do you decide? I will take them both.
59:32Would I trade Cam Scadaboo for Amari and Hampton?
59:35Thank you. There we go. Would I, if I had, yeah, yeah, I would.
59:40I would. You would trade for Hampton? I would trade Cam Scadaboo for Hampton.
59:44Oh man. I know. It's the herb bros can't stop.
59:47I, I, I would do that. He is on an Island right now.
59:51I know. He is sitting there under the beating sun.
59:55I'm going to, I'm going to get you that whip so you can just hit yourself in the back over and over.
60:02Yes. Uh, it doesn't. I'd rather have Cam Scadaboo.
60:04It doesn't feel great, but. I think. I'd rather have Cam Scadaboo.
60:08I think that the workload, but man, that's brutal.
60:11Well, it's the workload of like, but the Giants offense is not going to turn around and all of a sudden be a juggernaut.
60:19Correct. The chargers are not going to do that, but if one of the teams is going to, it would be the chargers.
60:26He answered the question. That was the mailbag presented by Paramount plus.
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60:34See you Sunday. Uh, we've got starts of the week, matchup previews, fantasy face off all coming up Thursday and Friday.
60:41So much to talk about. We'll recap, uh, the big Browns victory in the morning, Jason.
60:46And, uh, I'll be a, I mean, I'll just be, we got to figure out a hundred dollar bet every week.
60:53Yeah. We got to do that. Um, but yeah, we've got a lot coming up this week.
60:58We'll see the starts at the top of tomorrow's show.
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61:18If you want to discipline myself, we'll see if you need a bad boy.
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