0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in. Back again. Football is the best. Freaking Case Keenum.
0:09Case Keenum's the best. Case Keenum. Like, not just winning, but looking very competent.
0:14Do we not? It was awesome. Do we not see my point from a few shows ago?
0:19The parody? No, just that there's guys that are veteran quarterbacks that get thrown to the garbage heap and apparently are capable
0:27of playing so much better than Cam Ward. Yeah, because, yes.
0:30Case Keenum, like, in his time, was, like, he was efficient.
0:34But his time was 2019. It's like over half a decade ago.
0:38I was shocked he was still in the league.
0:41I really was. Well, he said that he retired mentally.
0:44Yeah, that's right. Okay. And then... Mentally? Well, he hadn't put it in paperwork, but he had just...
0:50As have I. He decided that he was going to retire and walk away, and then Ben Johnson called him, and the
0:58only reason he came back was for Ben Johnson.
1:01Yeah. And then he wins on Monday Night Football.
1:04Yeah. In front of his family. It was... 27-7.
1:07It was awesome. Ben Johnson is very good. He was in the back.
1:11And, like, Keenum was seriously on point. Like, so much stuff was just short timing, and Keenum was, like, the ball placement,
1:18it had to be precise, and he was. He got it done.
1:22Yeah, this was not a good night for the Eagles.
1:26No. No, it was not. Don? Uh, I would say year.
1:29I don't think I would. I don't think I would relegate it.
1:33Okay, that's fine. They almost lost to the Titans with Cam Ward.
1:37Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which seems impossible. I mean, genuinely, like, this feels like an 0-3 team.
1:43Well, they could have lost to the Commanders in Week 1 as well.
1:47They're not, you know, they're feeling the absence of A.J.
1:50Brown. They're feeling the age of Saquon Barkley, the explosive plays on the team.
1:55Um, we're not using Makai Lemon. Eli Stowers was a terrible draft pick.
1:59We don't have Dallas Goddard, who had a really good Week 1 and 2.
2:04Dontavian Wicks, 2 for 32. Uh, Devontae Smith, 6 for 65.
2:08Saquon was 15 for 82, no touchdown. Jalen Hurts, I mean, hugely disappointing fantasy night.
2:13I was shocked they didn't run more. Like, Barkley to the outside was working fantastic.
2:18And then they're like, no, we're gonna, let's have Jalen Hurts take this offense on.
2:23It's like, unnecessary. Barkley is destroying these people. You can kill them on the ground.
2:28It's the Bears. So, so the Bears won 27 to 7.
2:31They won with 59 points in Week 1. And here we are with Colston, Loveland, Roman Dunze.
2:37Oh, Loveland, just, just stretch your arms, man. That was the, yeah, you say that, but also Rome, just, just.
2:44Oh, yes. Oh, open your hands, because he caught it with his fingers closed and therefore did not catch the ball.
2:51I don't expect more. Caught it with his fingers closed.
2:54That's what happened. His fingers were, like, too closed already, and it hit the outside of his fingertips.
3:00Like, what are you doing? Which he's second in the league in drops, I think, over the last couple years.
3:06Well, I don't know if he's second, but it was, Hardis was pointing out that people destroy Quentin Johnston for his drops,
3:14and Rome is one drop behind him. I was.
3:17Except Quentin, Q has, like, a ton of volume.
3:20I was unwilling to acknowledge Jason's recommendation of Khalif Raymond two weeks ago, because I was not capable.
3:26No, emotionally and mentally. I was wondering that this person, in the face of a Dunzey Loveland burden, could have any sort of meaningful long-term role.
3:34Look, when you're 32 years old. In year 11.
3:37In year 11, as an undrafted free agent. Journeyman that's hit different teams.
3:42You've got to, you've got to make your mark.
3:45I mean, I give so much credit to somebody like Ben Johnson for, like, just being player agnostic and just taking the
3:52best play, the best player, the best route, and prioritizing it.
3:56I don't know if you guys have seen the play.
3:59Benjamin Solak on Twitter shared it. There was a play schemed up where two wide receivers ran through the C-gap.
4:06Like, the play is wild. You watch this and you're like.
4:09I missed this one. So they run up through the C-gap.
4:13Yeah, I mean, so you've got, like, no cornerbacks, essentially, on two different wide receivers going in different directions.
4:19It is mastermind-level stuff. Well, and the QB sneak for Case Keenum to get a rushing touchdown was, we're going to have the guards fake.
4:28Like, we sent, they did the complete opposite of what is a big man football.
4:33We're stronger. We're going right. They're like, no, we're going to act like we're, the guards are going to pull out.
4:40And then, Case Keenum. Case Keenum scores a rushing touchdown.
4:43I feel like you guys, Philadelphia, you've got to walk home.
4:47There's no buses allowed. If Case Keenum gets a rushing touchdown, you walk.
4:51I know a couple of things. I know that the, now Burden got into the end zone on a play that was
4:58basically a running play and he got pushed in from eight yards away.
5:03A Duns A3 for 44, 11 A4 for 31.
5:06However, 11 targets for Luther Burden. Yes. We will take that.
5:09Yes, we will. Feed the Burden. Yes. But I will say this.
5:13Feed the Burden. Is that Mary Poppins you're going with?
5:17You know what? Sure. Poppins. I know what you're saying.
5:20Feed the Burden. Feed the Burden. Poppins. Poppins. I just know this from 12 years of fantasy football.
5:26If Kalief Raymond's roster percentage surpasses like 50%, this dude will never do it again.
5:31You can't look at him. I mean, is there any of you?
5:35Let's say we just put all four of these bears on your team.
5:39There's nobody that's starting Kalief Raymond over a Duns A or Loveland.
5:43It feels impossible to do that. I mean, he played 75% of the snaps.
5:48He's been over 60% of the snaps in all three weeks.
5:52And so, therefore, on a good offense where he's very involved and knows the system well and is being used well, you
5:59feel like you should be able to start him.
6:02But how? How do you start a year 11?
6:05Like, we know who Kalief Raymond is. Yeah, Ben Johnson knows who he is.
6:10Which is a superstar. He's the next Parker Washington.
6:13Oh, my God. Yeah, no, remember we were doing the, like, who's the next Michael Wilson?
6:18I think we did that time machine. Yeah. We found him.
6:22We might have. I mean, at least through three weeks.
6:25And here we are. Three weeks into the fantasy season.
6:28It is a moment in time where we can say, hey, if it hasn't gone your way, do not give up.
6:35Correct. We have been here for 12 years and we have seen literally hundreds, maybe thousands of people write in at 04,
6:4305, make the playoffs, win a championship. Have you seen the injuries this year?
6:47Yeah. Everything that's terrible that has happened to you and your bad luck.
6:52Because there is. There's bountiful bad luck this year.
6:55That bad luck, that cloud, it might move over to your opponent next week.
6:59And also, in every league, there are, you know, as the weeks go on, you get into week four, week five, you've
7:07got, you know, half the league is on the bottom half of their league and they start giving up.
7:13Folding. Not trying as hard. Not going on the way.
7:16And the league gets a little easier as well.
7:19You know, so stay the course and you'll be fine.
7:23Yeah. Yeah. It's been, uh, it's been wild so far, but don't be the one to give up first.
7:29When those other teams start to give up. Right.
7:32You can take advantage. Let's talk some news. News and notes from around the league.
7:37All right. Jameis Winston remains the team's starting quarterback for now.
7:41For now. How many weeks you give it? Two.
7:44One. Yeah. One. Maybe one. You think that they'll have McCarthy up to speed in one week?
7:49Well, let's put it this way. The Cardinals beat him this week and Winston commits turnovers.
7:55It's possible. The Cardinals are, are the, are the entire reason it'll be one or more because either the Cardinals are bad
8:02and Jameis Winston wins and they're not going to, they're not going to pull him after a, after a victory and he might look fine.
8:10Right. Or the Arizona Cardinals beat you. And then you're like, we've got to make a change.
8:16I hear what you're saying. Let's just, let's just see how one week goes.
8:21But genuinely it is one week at a time with Jameis.
8:24He's the starter this week. Um, he will not be the starter rest of season.
8:29He's just not playing well enough. No, he's playing.
8:32He's the worst statistical quarterback in the league. And we've seen Cam Ward.
8:37I, we have, I don't like, I do think that JJ McCarthy will eventually take over, but in terms of Jameis being
8:44thrown in against the Rams when you're not, when you haven't been getting the started reps and then playing in that, in
8:51the storm game, I'll give him at least one more week against the Cardinals.
8:56That is, that is fair. We got to remember that that Titans game was a storm and you can't hold anything against him against the Rams.
9:04So maybe, is there a chance we see famous Jameis?
9:08It feels slim, but that would be awesome. That'd be awesome for neighbors to have someone that is just airing it out.
9:15Um, Jaden Daniels will travel with the team to London and practice in some capacity this week.
9:21So Jaden Daniels should be back sooner than later.
9:24What a game by Mariota last week. Yes. Good news here.
9:27Justin Jefferson ankle injury, not anything long-term and could play in week four against the dolphins.
9:33Wow. So avoided, you know, the, the dreaded high ankle scenario.
9:36That's exciting news. It is. I hadn't seen that.
9:39I was contemplating Kyler as my stream of the week.
9:43I think he's a fine enough pickup, but then I was like, eh, without Justin Jefferson, I don't know how long he's going to be out.
9:51But if Jefferson's back soon, even if it's not necessarily playing this week, Kyler's outlook is much better.
9:57Mike Evans is day to day with his rib injury.
10:01That changed quick. I thought he died. He didn't.
10:04I mean, the way, the way he went to his face was that of a man who was, who took three arrows
10:11in the chest and was reaching out to the, to the scenic landscape.
10:15It was like, this is it. This is how I go.
10:19And I didn't, I didn't feel like it was, you know, this is a tough dude.
10:24Mike Evans, you know, has, has played long enough.
10:27He's tough. It really seemed like he took three arrows in the chest from Buddha Baker.
10:33Baker and, um, well, I'm shocked that he's day to day.
10:36Yeah. They'll manage him through the week before deciding on his week for availability.
10:41Travis H and junior will miss some time for the saints with the hamstring.
10:46It was not determined. It was a re aggravation.
10:49It's a reminder. It's like he was on, he was maybe going to miss with a hamstring, went in, gave us the,
10:56as we've seen many, many times, the, the, the retweak of the hamstring.
11:00So I would imagine it's multiple weeks. Travis H and junior will miss some time.
11:05I said that one. Brees Hall considered week to week with the quad injury.
11:10I'm Ron Burgundy. I'm pretty sure that Travis H and junior will miss a few weeks.
11:15So it's a hamstring. It's a re aggravation of the same hamstring.
11:19All right. All right. Uh, Brees Hall considered week to week with his quad injury.
11:24Yeah. That makes the signing of like Braylon Allen.
11:27If he's not already on your team, like he is for Mike and league of record.
11:33What? Um, it makes that signing for like kind of difficult.
11:36I did not realize that Mike. Yeah. I was going to go pretty hard after Braylon Allen.
11:42You can't dig. You can't. So yeah. I mean, Braylon Allen will get the bulk of the work.
11:48He looks okay this year. It's just a matter of, do you get it for a week?
11:54Do you get it for two weeks? Yeah. Somewhere in that department.
11:58We'll be talking about all these, all these running backs here in the waiver segment.
12:03Like Braylon Allen gets Chicago and you can run on the bears.
12:07The. Yeah. I'm playing Mike this week. We got the week to week update.
12:11Uh, but Aaron Glenn was saying, I'm not, we're not going to give a full update until Wednesday.
12:17Terrence Ferguson unlikely to play in week four. They also lost Colby Parkinson to a AC joint.
12:23Maybe Higby is a one week. I mean, they, they don't sound like Puka is going to be back.
12:29Like for this week is they said, they've said more.
12:33Cause last, last another comment about the fact that like he should be back soon, but it might not be this week.
12:40Okay. Cause we had McVay who is a liar.
12:43McLiar face about injuries. Can't lie. If you don't show up to the press conference.
12:48Thank you. McVay. Well, I mean, he showed up.
12:51He just left early. Dipped out. Yeah. And oh, nobody's here yet.
12:55I was here. Goodbye. Wow. Not happy, but yeah, there, there you go.
12:59We'll, we'll monitor more throughout the week. We got waivers on today's show.
13:04So much to talk about. So let's jump right in.
13:07Let's take a quick break and we'll hop into the waivers.
13:11Waiver wire presented by T-Mobile. Okay. Well, it's been kind of slow on the waiver wire for the past few weeks in
13:18terms of like high investment waiver priority burning situations.
13:21But this week is different. Uh, we do have some players that I think, uh, could be significant.
13:27It's tough. It's tough. It's tough. Yeah. I mean, let's start at running back.
13:32That's where the story is. Uh, we talked about Braylon Allen.
13:35He's going to get an opportunity to start if, if Breece Hall is out.
13:40Let's talk about Ollie Gordon. The second last week, 17 for 41 and a touchdown, three targets, three for 14, you know,
13:47in conversations in the off season, when they tried to box him into being a short yardage player, their head coach came
13:55out and said he would rather see Gordon compete to be in every down back.
14:00Think he's capable of doing it. Every snap of Ollie Gordon I've ever seen at the professional level.
14:06I've been personally impressed. I think he's a pretty talented player.
14:09He was very productive in college. He should get the majority of the work, but Jalen Wright will be involved.
14:16Jalen Wright is a player that they value the speed, the big playability, um, listed ahead of, of Gordon on the depth chart before last week.
14:25And the, the, the further complication to the fab spend decision is the fact that this is a team that is not
14:32going to score a lot of points the rest of the way in no way, shape and form is Ollie Gordon, Devon
14:39HN and HN was struggling to put up much more than 10, 11 points on a weekly basis with all the snaps this week.
14:47For example, they have the lowest implied point total at 13 and a half.
14:52So that's the lowest of the year. Yeah. And that has to be, right?
14:57You're going to, here's what's going to happen. The matchup is at Minnesota.
15:01Yeah. You're going to go to Minnesota and you're going to spend a bunch of fab on Ollie Gordon.
15:07And then you might end up feeling really bad about it for a week at least.
15:12So what, what is the frame work here? Because in all my leagues, getting anybody at running back, having running back depth
15:20is the hardest possible thing that you can do.
15:23And so there's value here. It's just how much I am.
15:26I'm just, I'm concerned of Ollie Gordon should be added in every single league.
15:31Um, but I, the, it will be once Jalen Wright is back, I think it will be, you know, far more of
15:38a committee on a low scoring team. And they're like the schedule the next two weeks is at Minnesota.
15:45And then it's Cincinnati, which I know Warren had a good game against Cincinnati.
15:49I still believe that their defense is, is much improved.
15:53And then it's the bye week. It was like, that's a hard thing to commit a ton of fab to a running
16:00back that I think is going to suck for two weeks.
16:04And then you can't play him at three weeks.
16:07Yeah. I do think Ollie Gordon is the right pickup.
16:10Jalen Wright is not good. I, yeah, I don't think he's that great.
16:14I mean, he is a, he's a very good athlete.
16:18And if you can find him a lane, he can run where you can't catch him.
16:23That part is good. If you find him a lane, I'm not sure he will find the lane.
16:29And I doubt you're making a lot of, um, you know, openings with a bad offensive line, no threat of a passing game.
16:37So I'm not fearful of Jalen, right? I think Ollie Gordon, Andy's right.
16:41Has, has basically shown that he's a, he's a quality NFL player, but it's going to be a month before you're confident enough to, to play him.
16:50So dropping a ton of fab is, is tough.
16:53If I haven't been destroyed by, um, by injuries and my running back position.
16:58And it's just like, Hey, I need, I want a quick fix.
17:02I'm, I'm, I prefer Braylon. I completely, completely agree.
17:05If you're needing a start right now, the next two weeks, but if you're, if you're good, if you're solid, getting a
17:12player for the rest of the year is worth more fab.
17:16Yes. Agreed. But I, I'm concerned that is he actually worth the fab in the end?
17:21I mean, let, let me, let me ask you this.
17:24If Ja'Cory Kraski-Meritt was out on the waiver wire, what fab would he receive?
17:29Um, I'm trying to pick some more than Ollie Gordon starter, more than Ollie Gordon.
17:34Yes. See, I mean, I think that's a situation where he's been under 50% of snaps every week.
17:40Um, not hyperproductive. I mean, getting a starter week for the rest of the year is the equation here.
17:46Right. Right. But is Ollie Gordon going to be 70% of snaps?
17:5060%? We, we don't know that yet. The, where I lean bill just in your hypothetical is they will like Mariota and that team looked great.
17:59Jane Daniels will be back. I just believe more in Washington.
18:03They're signing Eckler. They have Katron Allen. Yeah. Bill could be in big trouble.
18:07I mean, what's the fab spin if you have a hundred fab still?
18:12For Ollie Gordon? Yeah. Oh, I mean, he will, I imagine he's going to go for 20 plus.
18:18Cause it's a, like the starters, I think for sure.
18:21I think he could, but I don't know that I would, I think you could go up to 50.
18:27Yeah. You're, you're going to have him. Are you willing to do it?
18:32I don't think I'm willing to do it. The nice thing about both of these guys in the thirties, like instead of
18:39a veteran running back coming in that, you know what they're about?
18:43Like let's say Devin Singletary was the only back in town in New York.
18:48You kind of know what you're getting with Ollie Gordon.
18:51There is tremendous upside potential on a bad team, but it's still a young player that we haven't seen given all of the work.
18:59So from an explosiveness standpoint, you could be surprised in a positive way, as opposed to spinning up on the Singletary type of guy.
19:07Now Braylon Allen is more rostered. Like Ollie's out there for every league that I'm in.
19:12He's basically on no teams. Ironically, as the HN manager in our league of record, I drafted Ollie Gordon and then cut
19:20him because that's what ends up happening when you have other opportunities to pick up players that, you know, excel.
19:26Braylon Allen, 21% rostered. He has scored, I think, two times this year, right?
19:31Mm-hmm. No, the first one was called back. That's right.
19:34But he's looked very good. He's 22 years old, had the youngest breakout age of any running back.
19:40But again, it could be very temporary. Yeah. You've got Chicago in Chicago this week and then Cleveland.
19:46Cleveland has been stepping up on the defensive side.
19:49Chicago last night. You can run on them, but it's in Chicago and I don't know.
19:55We've been let down by Braylon Allen starts before.
19:58Yes, for sure we have. We're not going to have a definitive update on Brees until after your waivers run.
20:04Most likely, depending on what time your waivers actually run.
20:08I think that from what I've seen, I think Brees Hall is going to miss at least two weeks.
20:14In which case, Braylon Allen, I think, is a very good start.
20:18I've really liked what we've seen from the Jets so far.
20:22The offensive line has been a significant improvement from the year prior.
20:26Geno's been slinging. They've got the weapons. Sadiq looks like the real deal.
20:30So, you know, it's a much better situation. Obviously, it's not long-term.
20:34It's not rest of season. That being said, Braylon Allen has been kind of a flex with benefits.
20:40So it's not like, you know, when Brees comes back that Braylon Allen is completely, you know, 100% unusable.
20:46Like you said, he had a touchdown last week and I had a touchdown that was called back on a penalty in week one.
20:54And then you have, obviously, the Saints backfield, which I'm very curious to your guys' opinion.
21:00I think we're going to disagree here. This is regarding Alvin Kamara.
21:03Kamara and Kendrick Miller. Yeah. Yeah, Kamara's 54% rostered.
21:06Kendrick Miller's 3% rostered. A couple of tough matchups coming up.
21:10Kamara, yeah, the disagreement that I think we're going to have is just what we believe the team's philosophical approach is going to be to that position.
21:19And I think most of the work is going to go to Alvin Kamara.
21:24I think that his – I think there's a lot more to the equation for them than – and I think we've
21:31seen it even with A-Chan being active because we've been embarrassed at their utilization of Kamara with a healthy A-Chan.
21:38Oh, that's still so confusing. I mean, to me it's – We've done this the whole offseason, the whole A-Chan Jr.
21:45thing, and you're like, with A-Chan's utilization, and I'm right there at the Dolphins.
21:49I'm like, what did they do? No, sorry. No, it's not – But I mean – It's just weird.
21:56Like, I expect the majority of all the work to go to Alvin Kamara in the absence of A-Chan.
22:02You'll work Kendra Miller in, but I don't expect – like, if I had to start one on a weekly basis, in
22:09half or full point, it'd be Kamara every time.
22:12Yeah, so the way that I see – I would be surprised if all the work goes to Kamara because they just
22:20spent a ton of money to bring a running back in, and they didn't give him all the work.
22:26They seem like they want a committee. They were using whoever it was, Kendra Miller in week one when Kamara wasn't there.
22:33You know, they – when Kamara was there, they were using A-Chan as the backup, it seemed like, and involving two backs.
22:41I think both backs will be involved. I agree with you that Alvin Kamara is clearly the leader in volume, in snaps.
22:48Kendra Miller will be the backup, but I think Alvin Kamara is going to go for a lot more fab.
22:55And if – you know, I said this two weeks ago, I think if Kendra Miller gets 10 touches and Alvin Kamara
23:02gets 16 touches, I think Kendra probably scores more fantasy points just because Kamara looks not the same.
23:08I mean, he looked better this past week. In the fourth quarter, Alvin Kamara had five carries to Kendra's two, and Kamara ran 12 routes to Kendra's eight.
23:17So, I mean, it was on Kamara's side, but Kendra Miller wasn't a non-factor.
23:22I think Kendra – They're both worth picking up this week.
23:26And to Jason's point, it's like if Kamara went for 20 fab, then you can get Kendra for three.
23:32I'd prefer the Kendra side. You'd want to go the Kendra side.
23:36Yeah, yeah. But it's going to be a prolonged absence, I think, for A-Chan, at least three weeks.
23:42I'm certainly not saying spend the most on Kendra Miller and drop fab.
23:46I think he's just a value for – he's going to not cost a lot.
23:51He shouldn't. Keaton Mitchell, Emmitt Johnson, Jalen Wright, you know, if you want to spend – it's a very similar situation there.
23:59Ollie Gordon's going to be the big ticket. Kendra Wright – or Jalen Wright – yeah, mixing Kendra Miller and Jalen Wright together, it might not even matter.
24:08But those are a couple other names. Jalen Wright's probably – you could get him on the cheap just in case the distribution is different.
24:16Yeah, you could. I don't want the backup – like the Saints look like a good offense.
24:22The Saints are a fast pace of play. Tyler Shuck looks legit.
24:26The Dolphins, having the backup and a timeshare, I don't know that I want the starter in the timeshare for the Dolphins.
24:33So I'm not doing anything for Jalen Wright. Keaton Mitchell, though, bears, you know, talking about – he was unfortunately for Hampton managers.
24:41They were – Keaton Mitchell was very involved. Eight carries, three targets.
24:45He's an explosive player. I'm not going – 38% of snaps.
24:49I'm not going hard after him, but I do think he is – he should be rostered.
24:54Depth at running back that you might be able to get on the cheap.
24:59You prefer Keaton or Mike Washington? Keaton. Yeah, I would prefer Keaton.
25:03The other names to pick up are just, you know, kind of insurance backs.
25:08Make sure that Kalen Black is rostered. You know, Kenny Gainwell, we thought maybe would be a pickup, but it seems like Bucky Irving.
25:16I mean, I had read something from September 24th because I was doing some research on Bucky Irving for the injury.
25:23And I don't remember the source, but they talked about him being on a pitch count early in the season.
25:29And then – Yes, yeah. That came up. We got him – even in a close game, we got him pulled out
25:37and he just sat for the last 15 plays of the game or whatever it was this past week.
25:43There was no – Bucky Irving was just standing on the sideline.
25:47Everyone assumed he was hurt. And they must be handling this in a strict manner when it comes to the pitch count.
25:54But he seems to be fine. Like, I was trying to figure out was this a – you know, is this like an attitude thing?
26:03Like, was there something that he did that got the team frustrated?
26:07You know, he didn't fumble, but it seemed like they literally hit a mark.
26:11You look at his games. Yeah. It could be a pass protection call.
26:16Yeah, it could have been. It's just weird to take maybe the best, like, talent that you have out of the game.
26:23But if you look at the opportunities in the three games, you know, it was eight attempts on the ground, then 17, then 15.
26:31He stops at 15 and they don't put him back in.
26:35But at least four targets in every game. It's going to be weird for that team and Gainwell and all of those
26:42guys as we deal with no Baker for a little bit of time.
26:46But is there anybody else? I mean, Austin Eckler, are you adding him?
26:51I mean, I don't think so. Deep, deep leagues.
26:54Yeah, I don't think – like, if Austin Eckler comes back to a team, which I could see very much happening, should he be added?
27:02Yeah. Will he be a fantasy-relevant starter? Will he be able to play his way into a really important role?
27:08I would be surprised. The only other player I would mention, I would whisper, is Caleb Johnson.
27:14You know, more weeks in the system. You've got a couple more weeks before we probably find out what's going on with Josh Jacobs.
27:22And, man, they need to figure out a running game.
27:25They just have to make some changes. We might not get Jacobs back.
27:30I mean, the league is trying to get that video and that could be – this thing has been snip, snap, snip, snap all over the place.
27:39So, I don't mind you mentioning him as much as I should mind you mentioning him.
27:44My number one wide receiver pickup this week is Chris Bell.
27:48His snaps went up. This is Miami wide receiver.
27:51His snaps went up to 71%. Seven targets, four for 67.
27:54Caleb Douglas has been out. You lose the weapon in the passing game that A-chan was, getting the targets every week.
28:01And this is the expectation for somebody like Chris Bell.
28:05Coming off an injury, missing all of training camp, wasn't seeing the snap counts that we needed for any type of viability,
28:12but saw them jump from 41% to 71%. Seven targets, big-bodied guy, had multiple red zone looks in this game, had opportunities for touchdowns.
28:20But, to me, I personally think that's a much better opportunity on a team that's going to be throwing from behind all
28:27game long than what I'm seeing out of, like, Wicks.
28:31And I would take them over Malik Washington, too.
28:34It's pretty wild that we are – you know, kind of the consensus, the top four-ish wide receivers, it's going to be the Eagles and the Dolphins.
28:43Right. Wicks and Lemon, Bell and Washington. It's absurd because it's like, well, of course it should be Makai Lemon, a first-round pick.
28:50But then we have just more evidence of yesterday against Chicago, a very negative game script.
28:56We need to throw the ball. Dontavian Wicks, two for 32.
28:59Makai Lemon, three for 29. Meanwhile, Chris Bell and Malik Washington, it's nothing special happening, but there are 17 targets between them.
29:07Like, they're not destroying. The ironic part about those four top wide receivers is that all four are terrible plays this week.
29:14Like, you're going up against the Rams and the Vikings, respectively.
29:18So, I don't know that I want to put any into my starting lineup.
29:22And if I'm not putting any into my starting lineup, I would go with the rookies, Chris Bell and Makai Lemon, as,
29:30you know, the hold and look for the future for them to progress, to get more involved, to get better as NFL players.
29:37Chris Bell won't cost you much and is widely available.
29:41Yeah, I think if you're looking for a start this week, the best one to pick up and play might just be Kanata Mumfield.
29:49Yes. Because the chance that, you know, we saw a big week.
29:53What are you saying? Yeah. Who was that? Mum's the word, baby.
29:57Mum's the word. Look, four for 93 in a touchdown.
30:00Obviously, one of them, it was a huge play.
30:03But 73% of snaps. Puka Nakua may miss another week.
30:06You're not going to have Terrence Ferguson this week.
30:09You know, Higby will be involved. But, look, Mumfield, the matchup, the Eagles, we just watched a no-name.
30:15If Khalif Raymond can do it, Mumfield can do it.
30:19So, to me, that's like your probably low competition pick up and start.
30:23Yeah, you could also throw Jacoby Myers out there.
30:26Jacoby Myers is higher up for me as well.
30:29He's a better wide receiver. He's, you know, a part of the system.
30:33Brian Thomas Jr. has been taken to the back of the shed.
30:37He had eight targets this last week. And then the matchup on the road against Cincinnati, you expect a shootout there between Jacksonville, Cincinnati.
30:45It's a game you want, you know, pieces of.
30:48I would also say this week, if you're picking someone up because you need to start this week, depending on, you know,
30:56if it is a flex level, like, you know, it's not your wide receiver one or two, you might want to pick
31:03up and start a tight end over some of these wide receivers this week.
31:08They've been scoring a lot. Which is a rare thing.
31:11I just think there's some names there where I prefer a lot of the stash and holds at wide receiver versus the play this week.
31:19And I think that there's some matchups and some injuries at tight end that can push you that way.
31:26I will say, not available in any of my leagues.
31:29Probably not available in yours. But it says 25% of leagues, Jordan Addison is out there.
31:34So just check if he is out there. He's 75% rostered?
31:38Yeah. So people didn't let him go early and then now there's a chance that it's a benefit?
31:44Yeah, absolutely. I think with Kyler there and potentially no Jefferson, that could be a good start.
31:50Ready for the drop candidates at wide receivers? Sure.
31:53By the way, some other names we could mention real quick.
31:56Roman Wilson, Pat Bryant. I think chasing Roman Wilson is wild because last week it was Jeremy Bernard.
32:02And I think it's going to rotate around. Darn it, Washington got a ton of work instead of Friar Muth.
32:09Well, Roman Wilson was good last week. He was, yeah.
32:12Except he had the Dumbo play where it bounces off of him and turns into an interception and a score.
32:19And he kind of got benched after that. By Rodgers, probably.
32:23I would imagine that the captain had something to say about it.
32:27But Roman, over the first month or so of the, not or so, over the first three weeks, Roman's looked like the best wide receiver on that team.
32:36It seems like he, you know, Rodgers hates Pittman maybe even more than he hates Roman Wilson.
32:42And so, yeah. He can make half his own thing.
32:45Are you cutting Quentin Johnston? Yes. Rashid Shahid. Yeah.
32:48Michael Pittman. Yeah. Brian Thomas. Oh, landmine. Yeah. I think he's a drop in a landmine.
32:53Yeah. Marv? Anytime you would start Britain's Change every week over Brian Thomas, you're in trouble.
32:59Marvin Harrison Jr. I think, oh man, that's tough.
33:01I'm not, I probably don't cut him. Landmine. That's sort of like, I mean, are you cutting Metcalf?
33:07I mean, you're not cutting Metcalf. No. Metcalf's getting too much work.
33:11Godwin? I mean, you're going to have no Baker for a while.
33:15I just feel like the upside is gone. Yeah.
33:18I wasn't rostering Godwin already. Can't cut him. Very proud of that fact.
33:23Very cute. But yeah, it's like Keenan. If you're talking about the Battle of the Olds, I'd rather have Keenan right now.
33:30Man. Khalif Raymond? Dude, superstar. Mumford and Sons? Mumfield and Sons.
33:34Or Raymond. Everybody loves Raymond. Raymond. Long term. What is the roster percentage on Raymond?
33:39Because maybe he's too low. I'm seeing 13.9. So, would you take Chris Bell or Raymond?
33:44Because I don't want to ignore Raymond if we're here at the top.
33:48No, I'll go Chris Bell in that one. But Raymond is, let me go.
33:53Raymond is right now my wide receiver five. And that's behind Malik Washington.
33:57So, maybe that's not the right call. I'm telling you, if he hits 50% roster percentage, it's over.
34:03Yeah. It's over. That's great. Everyone pick him up because that means that it's burden and loveling time.
34:09That's a good point. We could do it. All right.
34:13Let's take a break and we'll talk tight ends and quarterbacks.
34:16All right. The Grand Kenyon, Sadiq, is going to be the dude at the tight end position for the week.
34:23He's 33% rostered. There's been, you know, Jason picked him up, held him, dropped him, picked him back up.
34:29I made a trade offer for him. This was why.
34:33I mean, there was the chance that you were going to see a breakout performance.
34:38It's not a coincidence. It happened and coincided with Mason Taylor missing a week.
34:42And Adonai Mitchell. And Adonai Mitchell. Yeah. And playing in Detroit.
34:46Okay. It was a nice. So temper the expectations.
34:49Is that what we're doing? I would temper the expectations.
34:52However, we're not sure that Mason Taylor or Adonai's back.
34:56He's going to Chicago, another great matchup. And this is a player that, I mean, he was drafted with.
35:02Once you break out. Yeah. Once you break out, you're going to break back in.
35:07You're going to play more and more. 58% of snaps, 57% of routes.
35:11That was, you know, the high so far for his early career.
35:15He looked great. His yards after the catch, his speed.
35:19He really looks like a hybrid wide receiver tight end.
35:22He doesn't look like a wide receiver to me.
35:25And he doesn't look like a tight end to me.
35:28He's like a thick, big boy wide receiver. I mean, 6'3", 240.
35:32So he's not like a towering tight end. No, he runs around like Anquan Bolden.
35:37That's what it reminds me of. Yes, totally. He runs around like Heinz Ward or something.
35:43Like he's a boulder and he is an athletic freak.
35:46He's a mismatch on every play. He's my number one pickup this week.
35:50Of all players? Across all positions, including the running backs.
35:54I don't mind that. I think that Sadiq has the chance to be a difference maker.
35:59He's two for me. Yeah. I have Allen at the top just for plug and play need.
36:05But Sadiq. Allen? Braylon. Braylon Allen. Oh, okay. Josh.
36:08Not Keaton. No, not Keaton. Yeah, Josh. If Josh Allen is out there.
36:12If Josh Allen is out there, drop your fat.
36:15Yeah, I probably would. Not Keaton though. Yeah. No, no, no, no.
36:19Not Allen Robinson. Keaton is my wide receiver five.
36:22Yeah. Not Tim Allen? No, he's in the comedian list.
36:25Okay. So stupid. We don't show that. So Sadiq.
36:28Yeah, he's two for me. I have Chris. I've got Ollie.
36:32I've got Ollie at the top. Darren Waller though, eight targets, five for 51.
36:37If Coker's out for an extended period of time, I think Waller will get more and more opportunities that aren't just red zone opportunities.
36:45Detroit matchup this week. Should be juicy. That's the best matchup for tight ends right now?
36:50This is another one of those where I was saying, you know, if you need a spot start at your flex, I
36:57think Waller might be better than some of these other wide receivers.
37:01You know he's used around the end zone. He's needed.
37:05He's getting more and more involved. He was injured, you know, late into camp and was getting worse.
37:11He was also just a late pickup. Yeah, late pickup and old as dirt.
37:15So he's just getting more and more involved. I expect him to have probably his highest snaps, highest route percentage share this week in a good matchup.
37:24So five targets last week is pretty good for a player like that, especially one that's looked for around the end zone.
37:32And then, I mean, you know, it's tough. You don't want to fall into the trap.
37:37But Tyler Higbee, you know, the reason I wanted Terrence Ferguson is because the second target for the Rams is enormously valuable.
37:44And if Puka continues to miss and Terrence Ferguson, we know, is not playing and Colby Parkinson got injured.
37:51Like, so here's the question. 11 targets. I think people are going to have a problem with they picked up Ferguson.
37:58We don't know how long he's going to miss.
38:01We don't know when Puka is coming back. Would you just drop Ferguson to play Higbee this week if you need a one week start?
38:09Because so tough. That's where it's really, really tough to me.
38:13I think you got to do what you got to do.
38:16I really don't want to drop Terrence Ferguson. But if you need to, if you can't roster two tight ends, which sometimes
38:24you can't if you've a shorter bench or other injured players, then you can move on from Terrence.
38:30There's another category of tight end roster or managers, which is I've got Colson Loveland.
38:35So I already have two tight ends. I picked up Ferguson to play instead of Loveland.
38:40I can't drop Loveland. Exactly. Exactly. Then you have to move on to Ferguson.
38:45But I will say this. Ferguson, in his own right, is a good pickup.
38:49Like, he will probably be dropped in a lot of leagues.
38:53We always say drop it like it's hot. Make sure you're looking at when your waivers go through, not just who got who, but who dropped who.
39:02And Ferguson will be dropped in a lot of leagues.
39:05If you have the extra room for him for a couple weeks from now, I would roster him.
39:11And then if you need another start, Brenton Strange, good matchup this week.
39:15Maybe an opportunity with the, I don't know, deletion of Brian Thomas Jr.
39:20Well, they ran, we brought it up on the show, they ran a lot of 12.
39:25Like, the snap counts for Jacoby and Parker were the exact same as Brenton Strange.
39:30Yeah. Defenses this week. Hello, Minnesota. There's a reason Mike and I both tried to get them last week in the league,
39:37knowing that the Tampa, you know, Miami combo was coming up.
39:41We got outbid. But Minnesota this week against Miami is the go-to must pickup.
39:46Now they're 80% roster. Yeah. People signed them to play against Tampa.
39:50Baltimore as well. Baltimore has Tennessee this week. I think that's why they're sitting on Mike's roster.
39:55Correct. Yeah, that's cool. That's against me too. But they're 69% rostered.
39:59You know, the best, by the way, do you know who the number one scoring fantasy defense is in the national football?
40:07The way you're asking, I would guess the Raiders.
40:10Yeah, that's what I would assume because you're a Raiders fan too.
40:14Yeah, that would be the Raiders. Yeah. The Raiders who, you know, they played New Orleans this past week.
40:20Still had a double digit fantasy performance because the, I think they forced four fumbles, three sacks, interception.
40:26They're kind of a just ferocious defense right now.
40:29They get to play the Raiders. Or, sorry, the Chiefs.
40:32They get to play the Chiefs this week. So, I do think they're interesting long term.
40:38I think the Packers are also a pretty good pickup.
40:41They're going to Tampa Bay and they're going to play.
40:44You know, we always try to target the quarterbacks.
40:47You want quarterbacks that are going to make mistakes, throw picks, take sacks.
40:52And when you have kind of an undrafted free agent rookie quarterback making his first start.
40:57Jaden Daniels. That is a nice player to target.
41:00They got Jalen Daniels? We have Jalen Daniels at home.
41:03Look, I am still a little bit burned from the Packers against Michael Penix.
41:08But I get it. It should be fine. And to that point, nobody has been worse than Winston.
41:14And the Cardinals play Winston this week and they do it.
41:18It's tough. It's tough because the Cardinals, I mean, Winston throws picks.
41:22He loves to throw picks. And thus far, also no completions.
41:25Yeah. He doesn't do the completions, but he's doing the picks.
41:29But it's like Arizona Cardinals last week, no sacks, no interceptions, no fumbles.
41:33Oh, they have the worst pressure rate of anybody.
41:36You know, points allowed. But I get it. I get it.
41:40I think it might be okay. All right. That was the waiver wire presented by T-Mobile.
41:45When you're updating your roster right before kickoff, you've got coverage you can count on.
41:50Just another reason game days are better with T-Mobile.
41:53Check it out at T-Mobile.com slash membership. Let's do some full stream ahead.
41:58Mason, you're putting your finger up saying, pause. The wind.
42:01Checking the wind. I'm just going to throw a name out there.
42:05Oh, no. Disgusting. Hold on. You already threw Caleb out there.
42:09You can, you know, if you've got room, he's going to pick up Tyreek Hill.
42:14He's going to come back at some point. We're so far away.
42:18You think? Wasted spot. Wasted spot. Yeah. He said, I'm going to get off the couch and get to work.
42:24He'll join. He'll join the Chiefs in week 10.
42:27Yeah. I mean, it might be. If you care about that.
42:31It might be later. You can't IR him, though.
42:34Maybe. Like, there's. We know there's degenerates in like 16 team leagues and stuff like that.
42:39Okay. That's fine. Maybe. But in a standard 12 or 14, I don't.
42:44I'm not wasting the spot on Hill. We've got him in Dino Jr., Mike.
42:48That's a dynasty league. That's very different. All right.
42:51Let's get into the streams. Full stream ahead. All right.
42:55I think you're going to see some interesting names hit the waiver wire this week.
43:00And I think Bryce Young is going to be one of them.
43:04But I think Bryce Young is a good stream this week against Detroit.
43:08Sunday night football. The team has come out and taken responsibility for the gross mismanagement of Tedaro McMillan.
43:14I don't know if you saw that. Dave Canales came out and was just like, we're going to take all the heat on this.
43:22Like we didn't move them around, put them in a position to succeed.
43:26We didn't do what it takes. So that's nice of them to say.
43:31Yeah. Just how do it? How? How does that possibly happen?
43:34You know, games get away from you and the pressure was crazy.
43:38I mean, that's something we need to give credit to Mason Graham and those.
43:43The Browns are two and one for a reason.
43:46Yeah. And a lot of it's the defense has stepped up.
43:50Like people thought they would disappear with no Miles Garrett, but they have, you know, with Jared Verse and Mason Graham and that group.
43:58I just think Bryce Young, once they lost Coker, it was a disheveled offense.
44:02I think this will be a much different game.
44:05I don't know what the over-under is right now, but Bryce Young, I think, bounces back.
44:1150.5. Yeah. Yeah. I think he bounces back this week.
44:14And I think this was one of those guys, it's not a waiver pickup on Tuesday.
44:19It's a waiver pickup on Wednesday when he gets cut.
44:23When he gets cut, they drop it like it's hot.
44:26Yeah. I'm going to go with a guy who is very available.
44:30Eugene Cyril Smith III. Okay. Colloquially known as Geno Smith.
44:33My dude, the quarterback for the New York Jets.
44:36Talking about quarterback three from last week. 31 for 37.
44:4084% completion percentage. 321 and three. Got it done every day of the week.
44:44I talked about the offensive line has been holding up.
44:48Geno is okay if you can protect him. Yeah.
44:51And the offensive line has been pleasantly, I mean, look, he's 75.5% completion rate through three weeks.
44:56Sixth in passer rating. Eighth in total EPA among quarterbacks.
44:59He's playing good ball. And the Bears defense is beatable.
45:0325th in EPA per drop back. 29th in pressure rate, which that...
45:07That's in Chicago or at home? I believe that's in Chicago.
45:10So, so long as the weather. Yeah. I mean, whenever I'm like picking things like this, it's like, oh, they're outdoors in Chicago.
45:18Right. Oh, they're outdoors in San Francisco. Don't mean you.
45:21Oh, they're outdoors in New York. I'm just like, blah.
45:25I'm going with someone who will not be playing in the United States.
45:29We will go with Marcus Mariota. Oh, are they across the Colts?
45:33They are going over. They are playing in London.
45:36I love this one. And Mariota, he is a wild man because he can give you games like they did last week
45:43where you're like, holy crap, you beat the Seattle Seahawks.
45:47And then he can absolutely fall on his face.
45:50But he is available in... Everywhere. In about 94% of leagues.
45:53He was awesome. Threw for three touchdowns. The Colts defense is so bad.
45:58He's still running. And the Colts defense stinks. They're just...
46:01They're terrible. So, if you are... They're not going to win a lot of games.
46:06Like, if you are in the hellscape of quarterbacks...
46:09You mean the Drake May hellscape? Drake May, Justin Herbert.
46:12The Baker Mayfield hellscape? The Jackson Dart hellscape? If I would...
46:16The James Daniels hellscape? I'm not playing Drake May.
46:19We can do this forever, Mike. I'm not playing Drake May.
46:23I will... I'll put Marcus Mariota in there. Will you drop Drake May?
46:27He feels like a landmine at this point. For the next...
46:31We can drop him for Bo Nix. For the next...
46:34Yeah, I mean, Bo Nix was almost my stream of the week.
46:38I think he's another... Bo Nix is going to get...
46:41Like, I feel very confident that the Denver offense, after they get out of this, like, extremely tough part of the schedule
46:49and it opens up, their offense is going to be much better.
46:53And Drake May and the Patriots, will they improve?
46:56I think they will, especially when they get A.J.
46:59Brown back. But that's a long time from now.
47:02Yeah, that's like two months from now. Yeah, it's a landmine for a while.
47:06Yeah, that's crazy. A lot of decisions to be made this week.
47:10If you want custom waiver wire rankings, you can import your leagues, ESPN, Yahoo, Sleeper.
47:15You can get a custom listing of the best pickups available in your league, spot starts, lineup optimizer.
47:21All that stuff is part of the Foot Clan at jointhefoot.com, along with bonus episodes, a ton of in-season tools, and a
47:29lot of stuff you can check out. We appreciate the Foot Clan supporting this show at jointhefoot.com.
47:34We're going to say goodbye, but just for today.
47:37And we'll be back tomorrow with another episode filled with Kalief Raymond and Kanata Mumfield and all the players that are going
47:45to help you in a fantasy championship. That's what makes fantasy awesome.
47:49It's wild. Goodbye. Bye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
47:54Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers.