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Unsolved Mysteries + TNF Preview, Trade Decisions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/23
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55 min
Duration
Estimated from transcript
Sep 23, 2026
Published
Wed, September 23, 2026
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23
Players mentioned
Topics
Javonte WilliamsBryce YoungAJ DillonAlec PierceBijan RobinsonBrandin CooksChristian KirkChuba HubbardColston LovelandDerrick HenryDrake LondonGeorge PickensJameis WinstonJeremiyah Love
Player analysis
Player insights
AJ Dillon
NegativeUsage53:53
AJ Dillon is noted for a poor performance last week, recording negative rushing yards on three carries. The source highlights this as a significant negative for his current fantasy outlook.
Insight pageAlec Pierce
NegativeInjury16:49
Alec Pierce is on injured reserve for at least four weeks while he attempts to rehab a potential surgical issue.
Insight pageBijan Robinson
NegativeUsage31:10
Despite the Falcons running zero plays in the red zone through two games, Bijan Robinson remains a viable fantasy asset due to his consistent involvement in the passing game as a check-down option.
Insight pageBrandin Cooks
NegativeDepth Chart20:25
Brandon Cooks has signed to the 49ers practice squad and may be elevated soon due to the team's injury issues.
Insight pageBryce Young
PositiveBreakout23:17
Bryce Young has shown significant improvement over the last two weeks, displaying better decision-making and efficiency under a new offensive philosophy that emphasizes a fast pace and high neutral pass rate.
Insight pagePositiveProjection46:46
The source suggests starting Bryce Young over Tyler Shuck this week, noting that Young has outscored Shuck in both weeks so far. The source highlights a potential 'perfect storm' for the Panthers offense where they play fast and throw frequently because their defense is poor, creating high-volume fantasy opportunities.
Insight pageChristian Kirk
NegativeInjury20:43
Christian Kirk is currently on the 49ers but is sidelined with an injury and is expected to be out for several weeks.
Insight pageChuba Hubbard
PositiveValue52:08
Chuba Hubbard is a recommended trade target, especially with Jonathon Brooks currently out. The source notes that Hubbard will be involved in the passing game and is not an untouchable asset, making him a viable acquisition for fantasy managers.
Insight pageColston Loveland
NegativeUsage18:16
The source advises benching Bears receivers and tight ends like Colston Loveland due to the team's offensive instability and quarterback uncertainty.
Insight pageDerrick Henry
PositiveValue0:50
Mike Wright acquired Derrick Henry in their league for a bid of 4.65, narrowly beating the next highest bid of 4.51.
Insight pageDrake London
PositiveProjection35:30
Drake London is a must-start player; historical data with Michael Penix shows he was on pace for 180 targets and performed as a WR1, suggesting high upside despite poor conditions.
Insight pageGeorge Pickens
PositiveUsage23:09
George Pickens is highly effective at drawing pass interference penalties, which the source notes is a valuable trait for fantasy receivers to possess.
Insight pageJameis Winston
NegativeProjection10:52
The source believes Jameis Winston will not replicate his high-turnover style of old due to John Harbaugh's coaching philosophy, but he remains a viable fantasy option who can still throw for 300 yards and multiple touchdowns.
Insight pageJavonte Williams
NegativeUsage31:37
Javonte Williams is struggling with efficiency, averaging 2.96 yards per carry and ranking 42nd out of 43 running backs in first downs, though he maintains a high snap share of 71-80%.
Insight pageNegativeValue43:06
The source advises trading away Javante Williams if possible, preferring rookie Jeremiah Love for the remainder of the season due to talent and expected role growth.
Insight pageNegativeValue52:21
The source expresses hesitation about trading away Javonte Williams, despite acknowledging that there is a clear path for Chuba Hubbard to potentially be more productive for the remainder of the season.
Insight pageJeremiyah Love
Joe Burrow
NegativeMatchup44:57
The source suggests benching Joe Burrow this week against the Pittsburgh Steelers, noting that Pittsburgh has been one of the league's best defenses and that AFC North matchups can be difficult. The source recalls Burrow's previous performance in Pittsburgh where he finished as the QB18 with only one touchdown.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
NegativeInjury15:44
Jonathan Brooks is on injured reserve for at least six weeks following core muscle repair surgery.
Insight pageMarShawn Lloyd
NegativeUsage31:30
Marshawn Lloyd is part of an inefficient Packers backfield rotation; he has struggled with ball security, losing a fumble, which limits his reliability.
Insight pageMichael Penix Jr.
PositiveDepth Chart15:22
Michael Penix is confirmed as the starter for Thursday's game, with Tua Tagovailoa serving as the backup.
Insight pageMike Evans
Patrick Mahomes
PositiveProjection38:02
Patrick Mahomes is considered 'back' for fantasy purposes; the source attributes this to the departure of Matt Nagy and the addition of Kenneth Walker, which has improved the Chiefs' play-action and red-zone efficiency.
Insight pageRico Dowdle
NegativeInjury16:57
Rico Dowdle is considered day-to-day following tests on an injured toe.
Insight pageTucker Kraft
PositiveBreakout33:02
Tucker Kraft is a breakout candidate for the Packers, evidenced by his snap count jumping to 98% in the most recent game; the team needs him to step up as a primary target.
Insight pageTyson Bagent
NegativeInjury17:04
Tyson Bagent is in the concussion protocol, making his status for Monday night uncertain.
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Episode Transcript
0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! That was very short. Did you think it was Thursday?
0:09No. No, you thought I was given space? Yeah.
0:12No, it just was what it was, Mike. You don't feel welcomed?
0:16Dude, the people! I don't want to say nothing, but the people hated it.
0:21They hated it. They hated it. I didn't really think it was that bad.
0:26I'm not going to lie. I didn't think it was that bad either, but the people.
0:31The people. Oh man. They're fickle. Wednesday, September 23rd, welcome into the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
0:36Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. We just had waivers go through in all of our leagues just before the show started.
0:43It's always... Wait, did CHOP go? ...fun this time of year.
0:47Oh, it did. Yeah, in the CHOP league, Mr.
0:50Derrick Henry goes to Mike. Oh baby! You got him!
0:53Mike got Derrick Henry and he bid 4.65. And that was...
0:57But number two? The next highest was 4.51. That is...
1:00Oh, that feels good. Swish! Oh baby! Yeah, Jeremiah Love went for 3.34.
1:05Quinshawn Jenkins went for 1.56. Quinshawn Bumpkins. Mike is celebrating.
1:08Kid, just keep... I'm on fire. Give me another name.
1:11No, it doesn't look like that. Give him another name.
1:15Uh, Mike Evans went for 1.21. That's a pretty good pickup.
1:18Dude, you asked... I know. ...you asked for an alley-oop and then you didn't even jump.
1:24What do the people think of that? Oh, I'll tell you what the people think of that.
1:29Oh no! Yeah, they're fickle! They're fickle! The people, Mike, are fickle.
1:33You did say they were fickle. Oh no! We have news to catch you up on today.
1:39Thursday night breakdown. We got unsolved mysteries on the show and some mailbags.
1:43So we've... I gotta get Henry in my lineup.
1:46Hold on. Okay. All right, I'm good to go.
1:49Would you rather have Henry for 4.65 or... Or play Bill Krosky again?
1:54Or Jamar Chase for 6.66? Oh. Well, considering my running back 2 situation...
1:58You just needed it? ...was Bill Krosky. Okay. That was it.
2:02All right. Quick question of the day. James in North Carolina writes in, what is your league format in the League of Record?
2:09I was listening to the Tuesday show and heard you say that Andy and Mike are 4-0 through two weeks.
2:16That's right. Because we work harder than you. That's right.
2:19Thanks, Mike. Fantastic. Our League of Record format is...
2:22A couple years ago, we had a vote to add median scoring.
2:26So you play one matchup per week against your head-to-head opponent, but you're also facing the median score of the league that week.
2:34So you can get up to two wins a week.
2:37This is something I had resisted for many years.
2:40But we have it in... Once I experienced a year of it, we added it to our Dynasty League.
2:47It's just... We enjoy the median scoring system. And now when I'm in leagues that don't have it, I'm kind of disappointed.
2:54When you say, oh, after you finally stopped resisting, we added it to the Dynasty League.
2:59If you weren't with us several years ago when we did this, what happened was we got Andy to vote for it
3:07and it went through in our league and we tried it.
3:10And then two weeks in to the season, like where you don't usually make in-season changes, Andy led the charge to switch
3:18our Dynasty League over to median scoring, which I completely agree with you.
3:22In the leagues that I am in, where I am 1-0 or 0-1 on a week, it's like, this is stupid.
3:29Let me explain a little bit of... I think I probably have in my head every argument against it possible.
3:36Everything I will see against median scoring. My arguments used to be about the consequence of the week, right?
3:42Like if you lose to the second highest, you know, the highest scoring team and you have the second most points, you know, so what?
3:50You know what I mean? It does. That's the way it goes.
3:54Them's the breaks. Be tough. Battle through it. If it doesn't go your way, it doesn't matter.
4:00The reason that I got on board wasn't necessarily some fairness argument that like, well, you know, if you lose tough luck
4:07loss, it's more fair to get an extra win.
4:10No. The reason I got on board right away was the entertainment of it.
4:15It became very fun. We have games now on Thursday Night Football and sometimes matchups are nearly settled on Thursday Night.
4:22Last week who I was playing against, they didn't have a shot after Thursday Night Football because of Gibbs and Allen and Amon Ra.
4:30It was over. But week after week after week, it was entertaining to watch all the way through the end of Monday
4:37night because every point scored for every team changes the median score of the league.
4:42You're competing against that number. It's more drama. It's more excitement.
4:46It's more fun. F-U-N. More fun. That is the argument for median scoring.
4:50Does it mitigate a bad feeling if you get lost or if you lose to a higher scoring team and you scored a bunch?
4:58Not really. I mean, it doesn't change it that much.
5:02Jason was whining all week about barely, you know, losing in the dynasty to the, you know, he still whined the same amount in dynasty.
5:10You're darn right. I did. And so I scored the second highest.
5:14It didn't know if the median didn't nullify your pain.
5:17No, it did not. No, it did not nullify the pain.
5:21I did. That sucked. That still sucked. Now, but you're also three and one instead of being one and one.
5:28Yeah. No, it's it's definitely better. But but it is far more about the fun, the entertainment.
5:33The that's why we're playing fantasy football. There's more to watch more to pay attention to more going on Monday.
5:40I pay so much more attention to the rest of the league outside of my matchup before I was like, how am I doing?
5:48Or maybe how are you two doing like, oh, you're going to win.
5:52You're going to lose. Now I care about how's the sixth best team of the week scoring because I would like to score more than them.
6:01Yep. And if you want to see more details on our League of Record keeper format, the whole league, we have that on the website.
6:09You can kind of just if you want to Google that fantasy footballers League of Record keeper format.
6:15It has all of the details on there. Let's jump into the news because, well, we have some news and notes from around the league.
6:24All right. ESPN's Adam Schefter reports Jackson Dart's knee injury worse than initially thought.
6:28He is expected to have season ending knee surgery in Rappaport this morning.
6:33ACL intact damage to the PCL MCL and meniscus.
6:36His season is done. Yeah, it seems like it went from, hey, he avoided something.
6:41How may he try to get back in the game?
6:44It's going to be, you know, not a very big problem to.
6:48Oh, there's so much damage in that knee. It's a pretty big problem.
6:52So Jameis Winston, Mike, you picked him up in our dynasty league.
6:56You paid up for him because you needed him.
6:59I ran into a problem of quarterback by weeks.
7:02Yeah. So that that's a good ad in a dynasty league Mariota as well.
7:07Yeah, I will say this. I agree with those that believe this Winston will not be the Winston of bold.
7:14I do not think that it is compatible with the philosophy of Harbaugh to turn the ball over proportional to touchdowns.
7:21That's kind of the Winston experience that we've known to love.
7:24But there is there's many and I'm one of them that does not believe that that will be permitted.
7:31I think the offense will be will be protective of the football.
7:35I think they're going to that. Yeah, I think they're going to try Harbaugh is going to try to run the ball
7:42play defense, you know, manage the game a little.
7:45However, Winston's going to Winston. I think what we saw this first week was a lot of the Rams defense.
7:52So Winston did nothing. I mean, he really didn't.
7:55He didn't put up any yardage numbers, any points that, you know, you were writing home about.
8:00But a lot of that, I think, was the Rams defense coming to play and they're a very good defense.
8:07They had, you know, they've got shut down corners.
8:10They've got Aaron Donald there. And then Malik neighbors was a little banged up.
8:15So I do think it's going to be in between.
8:18It's not going to be 5,000 yards, 30 touchdowns and 30 interceptions like Jamis of old that we loved.
8:24But I don't think it's going to be some nerfed backup that can't go out there and throw 300 yards and two touchdowns and two interceptions.
8:33They did extend him. So like Harbaugh was a part of this.
8:37He was already there when they gave Jamis Winston the new money.
8:41That's because he hadn't been playing. Like they, so it's, it's hard.
8:45No one extends Winston after he's been playing. I agree that Jim Hart or not Jim, John Harbaugh will, he doesn't want the Winston style.
8:53But I mean, this, if, if this team is just gonna be like, well, we're going to run and we're going to
9:01defense and we're going to stay in the game.
9:04No, you're not. No, you're not. You will have to start throwing eventually.
9:08Uh, and then we'll see how reckless Jamis can get on Sundays.
9:12Um, I love that. It's Winston and Mariota. Yeah.
9:15The number one and number two pick in whatever year that was.
9:19It's like, Hey, it's their time to go again.
9:22Yeah. That's, that's wild. Um, we did just get word that Michael Penix, not only is he starting on Thursday, but Tua will be the backup on Thursday.
9:31He is good to go against green Bay. They made the decision not to start Tua.
9:36Right. They did take Cooper rush behind the shed.
9:39Oh, okay. And we will not be seeing him again to work on the shed.
9:44Yeah. Yeah. No. Jonathan Brooks on, on injured reserve out for at least six weeks.
9:49Core muscle repair surgery. Working out Austin Eckler. I love yesterday's show.
9:53I was like, I'm going to do a study on whether or not people are injury prone.
9:59And then it's like the most injury prone player is like, Oh, it turns out this injury is like, eh, it might be okay.
10:07Now you're going to injured, injured reserve six weeks surgery.
10:10Yeah. Alec Pierce officially on IR for at least four weeks trying to rehab, at least before he may need surgery.
10:17Rico daddled day to day, uh, after undergoing tests on his injured toe.
10:22And, uh, Hey, here we go. Bears fans, Tyson Baygent.
10:25He's in the concussion protocol. If he cannot get through the protocol, which is challenging on one week for anybody.
10:32Well, not on, not only that, he didn't get knocked out of the game.
10:36So like this was after the game. He clearly went and reported concussion symptoms.
10:41The only good news there, they do play on Monday night.
10:45So it could be Baygent. It could be case Keenum dude.
10:48It, and it's the Eagles. It. So that is, I mean, I, I, I would go so far as to say like,
10:56I'm, I'm, I'm benching all my bears receivers. I pass.
10:59Yeah. I totally get it. This, the bears is like other than injuries.
11:03I go, you come into fantasy football, but there's always debacles where you had something projected one way and it goes completely sideways and you're not even close.
11:13And it's like, it feels like that. That's what the bears are right now, but nothing is, we can't, we can't get a normal bears game.
11:21Yeah. The first week was an outlandish, no defense.
11:24The running game took over. Like Swift and Monunga are just scoring all the time.
11:29Second week was crazy. Insane weather. The end of game losing Caleb Williams, which is usually that last, that last driver two
11:37is where about 50% of his fantasy points comes from.
11:40True. Um, yeah. I mean, I feel like we're getting bailed out right now of not starting Rome or Luther or Loveland.
11:47It's like, because we're to the backup of the backup.
11:51We're like, oh, now we're going to bench him.
11:54You should have been benching him. The, the hard part will be Loveland because you're going to have to go into the
12:01dumpster and put a name in like Dalton Schultz and be, and put and do that on a Sunday and or Monday
12:08and be like, yep, I, this is, I'm doing this.
12:12I am making this decision to play Dalton Schultz over Colston Loveland.
12:16And how does it feel? It's, it's probably the right move, but it's going to hurt your heart.
12:22Yeah, it's not great. No. Brandon Cook signed to the practice squad for the 49ers.
12:27You can see him moved up soon with all their injuries.
12:30That makes me a little bit more worried about Mike Evans.
12:34Well, they, they did say, I know they lost, um, they lost Robinson.
12:38It was in the context of losing Robinson that the conversation about adding someone happened.
12:43Um, they said Kirk was too many weeks away.
12:46Christian Kirk, who is on the 49ers in case you're curious, but also injured because he's on the 49ers.
12:53Meowson Taylor week to week with a thumb injury.
12:56We'll miss Sunday's game against the lions. Most likely a paw injury paw.
13:00Yes. Yeah. Okay. Hey, that's Matt's joke. It's all right.
13:03It's okay. Uh, give him credit. That one was good.
13:07Let's jump into some unsolved mysteries. Unsolved mysteries. Well, uh, this will be fun.
13:11We've got two weeks of the NFL season in the books.
13:15Last year on this episode, after two weeks, we were worried about rookie running backs.
13:20We were panicking about Hampton and Travo. They were drop candidates in week two.
13:25So that was some of last year. Uh, we thought the Eagles passing offense was doomed.
13:30Was it? Uh, kinda. Uh, Javante Williams had a hot start last year.
13:34We wanted to know if Javante's performances would continue.
13:37And then, uh, apparently Drake London had a slow start.
13:41Yeah. And we wondered if that, uh, bridge was falling down.
13:44I guess that's how I like it. I guess that's how it was worded.
13:49Yeah. Uh, right. So London bridge jokes. Yeah. Come on here for it.
13:53We're better than that. We're not. Uh, did Bryce young level up?
13:57Number one unsolved mystery for the season. Bryce young is the quarterback two in fantasy football.
14:03It wasn't. I mean, we say, okay, he played Atlanta.
14:06That's true. It wasn't his highest scoring fantasy week.
14:09His highest scoring fantasy week was week one against Chicago where he scored 31 fancy points.
14:14It's also where he had 361 passing yards. So the bigger thing, three touchdowns in each of the last two weeks, only one interception.
14:22So here's is Bryce young. Did he level up?
14:25I will say that he, I was purely like from a passing perspective, he was the most impressive morning quarterback on Sunday.
14:33I will say he looks different. He looks like he's having fun.
14:37He's, you know, he's, he's doing what he wants out there.
14:40I think the canal system is working. We, we have been, you know, uh, supporters of canalis and hopeful that Bryce young
14:48can figure it out through two weeks. We were losing faith.
14:51He has. Yeah, we were through two weeks. He has looked good.
14:55He has played well, the wide receivers. He's got a good core.
14:59I mean, you had Darren Waller who obviously is not the Darren Waller of old, but around the, you know, in the
15:07red zone, having that as someone three touchdowns, you know, in two back-to-back weeks for Bryce young is great.
15:13Ted Aroa Coker and Darren Waller. That's a really nice trifecta of receivers.
15:17However, I do think like the matchups are pretty darn easy so far.
15:22The Chicago bears, we left that game going. Their defense was terrible.
15:26They had some injuries in preseason. It looked like they were not prepared for it.
15:31Atlanta. I want to remind you guys. It wasn't terrible.
15:34And we, I mean, Chicago's defense was better in week two.
15:38Well, sure. The rain was the 12th man. Um, but last year in Atlanta, Bryce young was 448 yards and three touchdowns.
15:45I mean, you would have said he figured it out.
15:48He was unbelievable. Then he threw 169, 206, 163, 191, 54.
15:52Like, so I, I am, I am more skeptical that he figured it out.
15:57I'm very hopeful. Uh, I will say he has looked good two games in a row.
16:02He is young enough where we saw this from Trevor Lawrence last year.
16:06Trevor Lawrence was a player who was a disappointment for what he was supposed to be.
16:12A couple of years into his career while he's still young with a good offensive coordinator, figured it out.
16:18And I think we all would say Trevor Lawrence figured it out.
16:22He's a, he's a very good quarterback. I'm hopeful that's Bryce young, but I, I mean really what's their matchup this week?
16:29I don't know Bryce young's current matchup for this coming week, but that's like Cleveland.
16:34Should be fine. That's a perfect test for him.
16:37Cause that is a decent defense. Should be fine.
16:40Here's what, here's what is different though. Is when you think of what the Carolina Panthers have been the last couple of years, it's the Chuba Hubbard year.
16:50It's last year's combo of Chuba and Rico. Like this was a, this was a run team.
16:55The Carolina Panthers are currently playing the fastest of any team in the NFL.
17:00They're, uh, their plays at a 23 seconds per play.
17:03And they're just like, so they're getting a whole bunch of extra plays in and the Carolina Panthers are number one in neutral pass rate right now.
17:12This is a, they, they've turned it over. They said, hi, have Ted McMillan and Jalen Coker, two premier wide receivers.
17:19Like they're like, let's stop doing this. Go, stop doing the run.
17:23And then having Bryce young have to figure it out.
17:27What if we let Bryce young be the engine of the team?
17:31And so far through two weeks, not only is it we're passing all the time, they're playing super fast.
17:37So this like this looks like a, it looks like something that I would buy into 8.9 yards per attempt, which is blowing away all of his career.
17:46That's fantastic. 10.5 yards average depth of target. I think the unlock the health of Jalen Coker has been crucial to this offense for sure.
17:55And to have a red zone threat, like Waller, where now your option one down around the goal line might be, you
18:02know, Jason brought them up to involve Waller. It is something to watch.
18:06It's two weeks, but it is something to watch.
18:09Where do you think from week three through 17, Bryce young is the quarterback.
18:14What? 10. I think 20. I'm more on Andy side of like, if this is the new, if this is the new
18:21way that the Carolina Panthers are going to run it, then they're just, there will be yards.
18:27We either going to either, they go out there and they pass and they succeed.
18:32And we're like, fantastic for Bryce young, or he goes out and he fails and he has to keep passing more.
18:39Uh, so I'm, I think I'm in, I think I'm in.
18:43Yeah. I mean, it's terrifying. It is a, it looks different philosophically.
18:47Yes. I think that was a good point. We'll take a break and we'll come back with another unsolved mystery.
18:53All right. Unsolved mystery. Number two, ironic because last year through two weeks, we were bringing up the hot start.
19:00Now it's a slow start. Javante Williams. Will the slow start continue for Cowboys running back Javante through two weeks?
19:07He's averaging 2.96 yards per carry. Whoa. He's all the way there.
19:11Yeah. Um, 50% of his yards have gone for two or fewer yards.
19:15Yeah. That's, that's the ones I've seen. Did I say 50% of his yards?
19:20I did say that. 50% of his runs. 50% of his runs.
19:24Uh, he is 42nd out of 43 running backs.
19:27Um, in terms of first downs, two of them on 24 carries.
19:31He has not been the engine. Right. And one might point to an offensive line that is dead last in yards before contact in terms of.
19:39That's not good for Javante. No, because Javante gets what's blocked.
19:43Correct. You know, and he does it consistently or held.
19:46He had a really nice wrong run last week on a, on a holding penalty that came back.
19:52True. That's true. He, a hold or a block.
19:55I mean, who's the, I will say this Mike and I, over the first two weeks over and over and over while watching are like, woof.
20:04Yes. He looks like him. Sometimes you watch a player and you go, man, it's been squeezed.
20:10Nothing is happening for this guy. He can't get any blocking.
20:13He can't get protection. But whenever we see Javante doing anything, he looks slow.
20:18You know, it's like you say, will this slow start continue?
20:22That is very well worded because it feels like he is carrying extra pounds or something.
20:27He's got a flak jacket on. I don't know what's going on.
20:31He does not look good. So I'm 12 for one, 12 for 41, 12 for 30.
20:36He got saved a little bit in week one because he got into the end zone.
20:42That is what you are hoping for. He got two touchdowns week one.
20:46Oh, that's right. He got a receiving touchdown. Yeah.
20:49Yeah. I'm, I'm, I am very worried from what I have seen.
20:53I love the fact that this is a player playing 71%, 80% of the snaps for a good offense.
20:59So I'm not like bailing on a workhorse back for a good offense, but I am worried about his actual, you know, physical ability.
21:07His, you know, opportunity is greater sign than ability for the running back position in fantasy football.
21:13And his opportunity is great, but man, he does not look good.
21:17I might make him a buy low candidate in a week or two when we start to get closer to the return
21:24of Tyler Smith on the offensive line because he's on IR.
21:28Um, he's a pro bowler. They need him, but it, you know, the thing about Dallas is if, if the running game
21:35is not working, we know what's going to happen.
21:38They're going to throw the ball. They're going to chuck it and they're going to have success doing that.
21:45Yeah. The next two weeks are very difficult. They're playing against the Baltimore Ravens and then the Houston Texans.
21:51Oh, that's why you said two weeks. Yes. Yeah.
21:54No, it's fair. I mean, I, I tend to find myself kind of in, in the middle on him, like not quite
22:01ready to like, I saw enough over a long period of time last year to where I'm, I'm willing to wait another
22:09week or two, but the Baltimore Houston matchup is a little bit concerning in terms of like, I guess you just keep starting him.
22:17Yeah. I think the offensive line injury is a legitimate thought process because this is a player who gets what is given to him.
22:25He's not going to create on his own at this stage, but he, you know, if, if he has holes, if he
22:32has places to run and right now he just doesn't.
22:35So how do you know the timeline on that injury?
22:39Week five is the earliest he can return. So, um, that's the, that's the targeted return week five.
22:45The, and the upside case is just the offense.
22:48Cause even the, even the passing game hasn't been fully clicking like CD lamb monster game, but we need both CD and
22:55George to get cooking cause that'll turn into a bunch of touchdown opportunities.
22:59It really does feel like Javante Williams is as good as the amount of pass interference in the end zone on George Pickens, which is awesome at that.
23:09So good at drawing PI. Yeah. I think George Pickens is near the top of the list of, uh, reasons why you
23:16want to give like a point to a receiver that causes a PI.
23:20All right, guys, this one's even harder. The Mike McDaniel mystery is Mike McDaniel, a good offensive coordinator.
23:26There are two teams. There are two teams in the history of the world and you're going to love it that have
23:34lost back to back home games by double digits against team teams with a sub 200 win percentage the previous year.
23:41It is the 2026 Los Angeles chargers and the 1926 racing tornadoes.
23:45One hundred years ago. And the tornadoes dissolved the very next game.
23:49They're like, uh, we're out of, we're out of here.
23:52I think some fans of the chargers may hope for a dissolving soon.
23:56It has been an utter embarrassment for the 26 to 14, both weeks at home against two bad teams.
24:03And then the gauntlet of the schedule coming up.
24:06I mean, I, how do you evaluate Mike McDaniel at this juncture?
24:10They have another offensive line injury. You have your best wide receiver by a lot, apparently by a lot injured.
24:16Yes. Wearing a flak jacket. And because everybody else that they asked to step up last week, either got hurt or drop the ball or both.
24:25I remember years ago, which is not on Mike McDaniel or Herbert when this guy, Mike McDaniel was hired kind of surprisingly
24:32to be the head coach of the Miami Dolphins.
24:35Um, we kind of reached out to juice, uh, shout out juice.
24:39You're you're awesome. Kyle use check Kyle use check and, uh, ask like, is this guy the real deal?
24:46And he, he said some really good things about Mike McDaniel that he's, he's very good, very creative, very smart.
24:52And he had, he was, he had a lot of success.
24:56I will say that the Dolphins, just a reminder, the Dolphins, which are now going to be the worst team in the NFL.
25:04They were seven and 10 in the AFC East last year.
25:07I so that it's when we watch, I don't, it's weird, man.
25:11When we watched the first quarter and a half of week one, the Chargers offense seemed fine.
25:17Lad McConkie gets injured and they couldn't do anything.
25:20The plays where Lad was in last week looked okay.
25:23I just don't know if, if Lad is gone, I don't know if they have the weapons to move.
25:30I was going to say, is it a personnel issue?
25:33The thing that I would push back on is that, you know, Kyle Shanahan has been dealt impossible hands with impossible depth problems and injuries.
25:41Quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, everybody. For countless years.
25:44And then you go out there and the offense looks the same the next week.
25:49It's Jawan Jennings. Sometimes. Or it's Kendrick Bourne. Or it's, or it's.
25:53The 49ers have down years. Yeah, the 49ers. Not, not many.
25:57No, but when they're down, they're like the. I know we, we talked about it, but we thought, you know, we thought it'd be worse this year.
26:06And they look like a machine, even with the injuries.
26:09I'm just saying like, I, I think that the personnel, they've put together enough players in Los Angeles for the offense to be.
26:17Like you already blamed Greg Roman once and you supposedly came back and fixed all these issues.
26:23Hmm. I hear what you're saying. Um. It's Harbaugh's fault.
26:26It. Perfect. I think it's a, it's a, a combination of factors.
26:30I think they have had very poor performances from their players that are independent of Mike McDaniel and Herbert.
26:36Drops. They've been nasty. Drops that turn into interceptions like where you hit a wide receiver in the hand and he was
26:44like, oh, let me give it to the defense.
26:47But I mean, 30th in EPA per play, 30th in percentage of drives resulting in a score 31st in turnover differential.
26:54Uh, are they pressing easy buttons? I don't know.
26:57I haven't seen it yet. There's no way we can have an unsolved mystery here and come in here and say something
27:04positive about what the offense has done yet. Correct.
27:07It's just, can you go out and perform? And when you look at the schedule, it's, it's a really tough, like I
27:14am not afraid to play defenses against the Chargers right now.
27:18Right. Like I'd be the, the matchups that are coming up.
27:22Like I used to be scared of them. I, and I feel like there's going to be a stress and a strain that just increases with every loss.
27:31Like, are they going to win in Buffalo this week?
27:34No. I mean, that would be Chargers like for that game to be close.
27:39That would be the most Chargers thing. I mean, the line's only seven.
27:43That's a pretty big line. Yeah, that's a pretty big line.
27:47I mean, when you're in Buffalo and they're two and oh, I just think that's a low line.
27:53I think I'm taking Buffalo. I'm taking Buffalo for sure.
27:56To win? To cover the spread. Yeah. Of course to win.
28:00Yeah. I mean, I think that that is, I think that I would definitely take Buffalo to cover the spread based on what I've seen of the Chargers.
28:09I'm just saying that I'm surprised a little bit that that's not 10 and a half.
28:14Yeah. I, I do think Mike McDaniel is good.
28:17We, he couldn't have done what he did with the dolphins with Tua, who was not a good quarterback.
28:24Don't things wear off though? Yeah. I mean, don't you do, don't you do cool stuff?
28:29I mean, that would happen in Miami. Yeah. In Miami, they'd play, they'd be the leading team.
28:35Like Tua would lead the league in passing yards through four weeks.
28:39And then the offense would start to get into a funk and decline.
28:43That happened multiple years. Yeah. I mean, he did lead the league in yardage for an entire season.
28:49Tua did. So I, I. That was the Tyreek debut year.
28:53Yeah. I mean, it was, it was very nice to have Tyreek and Jalen Waddle out there, which is why I think they need Lad McConkie.
29:01They need their number one wide receiver. If, if he's gone, it's, it's really tough.
29:06We haven't really, I mean, was Mike McDaniel, was he the OC for the 49ers when, when he was, you know, before the dolphins?
29:14Because obviously as a head coach, he was in charge of all of the offense for the dolphins.
29:20He was the OC in 2021 before he became the head coach.
29:24I think Mike McDaniel is still a good, is still a good offensive mind.
29:29Um, man, it feels so, so hard to be supportive to the chargers.
29:33Do they bounce? I mean, you have to say, if you believe that I think the offense, I think the offense bounces forward.
29:41Certainly. Like, I just don't know if it's enough.
29:44Bounces forward. Like, is that the opposite of bouncing back?
29:47Don't start this. I. Bounce back means that you return.
29:51But they, what are they returning to? They were never really great.
29:55Not under McDaniel. But I don't know if you're bouncing forward, Jay.
29:59I think they will get better is what I'm saying.
30:02That's fine. Um, I don't know if it happens.
30:05Because I, I, I'm, I don't think they have enough of the pieces in place.
30:10He may not have the, the one particular guy he needs.
30:14You lost two big tight ends. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Tyreek Hill wasn't, was a cheat code that year.
30:20Yes. For two years. Um, yeah. All right. Let's talk Thursday night.
30:24Thursday night breakdown. The only way you can upgrade a, uh, you know, Buffalo Detroit Thursday night is to get yourself some Atlanta green Bay.
30:32Nice. Atlanta. Oh, and two taking on the green Bay Packers who are one in one Vegas line green Bay minus five
30:40and a half over under 43 and a half.
30:43It's a at Lambeau field. And we have not seen many quarters of impressive offensive football from these two franchises.
30:49Uh, zero for the Falcons and at least one good one for the Packers quarter.
30:54Yeah. In two games. Yeah. So good. First half against Minnesota.
30:58I said at least one. It could be two.
31:01I'll give them to the Falcons are the fourth team since 1978 to go, uh, their first two games without a play in the red zone.
31:10So when you look at the fantasy output of B Sean Robinson and recognize that they have run zero plays in the
31:17red zone, like it's pretty much as bad as it could be on offense.
31:22And he's still going to catch a lot of check downs and things of that nature.
31:27Um, green Bay, they've been past heavy so far.
31:30The running game has been a, a mixture of Marshawn Lloyd and Chris Brooks and Caleb Johnson.
31:36And that mixture has resulted in inefficiencies. I think on the offensive side of the football.
31:41Yeah. What do we think happens with the running backs?
31:44I think you're going to see Caleb Johnson get more, more, more looks, get more run because he had, he fumbled.
31:51Right. Am I remembering that? So did Marshawn Lloyd.
31:54Yeah. But Caleb got it back. They got it back.
31:58And then I think Marshawn, they lost it. And Lloyd had the nice receiving touchdown.
32:03It, I mean, Chris Brooks has been on the season.
32:06He has the snaps. Yeah. He's four for 11 last game.
32:10Yeah. He has not been good. I mean, honestly, he takes the most snaps cause they trust him.
32:16I think in some passing blocking situations when watching.
32:19And I, I know it's difficult for me to be the one to say it, but genuinely when watching the game, Caleb Johnson looks like an explosive athlete.
32:28Yeah. The others, the other two do not. Um, we, we were watching the three of us together in the studio and
32:35I didn't even know who it was. So some back just got the ball and looked good for the first time, like in forever for the Packers.
32:44I was like, Oh dude, there you go. There's some juice.
32:48And then it was like, that was Caleb Johnson's first touch.
32:52It was like, give him the ball. I hope he is more involved.
32:56I still do believe very much that what has been proven is that this team needs Josh Jacobs.
33:02Well, they also need a healthy Tucker craft and his snap count jumping up from, and then your healthy offensive 50 something
33:09percent to 98% is a big deal. I think the Tucker craft breakout will be coming.
33:15They paid him the, you know, top tier tight end money.
33:18But last week it was, uh, the weather was rough, right?
33:22I mean, wasn't that another one of the weather games against New York and you did not get the performance, but I
33:29do think that unlocking, you know, they lost Jaden Reed.
33:33He's going to be out golden and Watson. I don't, I don't feel like they have a possession receiver right now.
33:40Yeah. Like that's not how it feels. No, that's not a guy that's going to go give you 11 catches.
33:46Like you need Tucker craft to get the offense going and they need to start drawing up plays for him because did you see the report?
33:55Uh, this is from Graziano said the Packers talked about using Tucker craft at one of the offensive line positions at one
34:02point during week two after four offensive linemen left Sunday's game due to injury.
34:07So that, yeah, that's been a massive issue. They lost what?
34:11Um, they put one of them on their offensive tackle on IR.
34:15Zach Baco Buelli. Zach Baco Buelli. Oh gosh, I shouldn't have tried that.
34:19Should have stuck with offensive linemen. You should have gone ZBB.
34:23I'm sure that, uh, let me throw it over the deucers cause the Packer fan over there knows his name.
34:29What's his name again? Zach Baca Buelli. Okay. You got the thing.
34:33I look dumb right there. I don't, I don't think so.
34:37Block by James. I think owl looked good. Okay.
34:40That was really impressive. Thank you. I have no idea if it was right.
34:45Oh, you dirty dog. You said it was such confidence.
34:48You can't reveal that. That was so confident. No one would have ever known other than his mom.
34:54Baco Buelli. Wow. Now you're probably right. Honestly, he hears that.
34:58He's like, that is how it's said. Um, okay.
35:01So. It's Bacalova. We start Christian Watson. We start Matthew Golden.
35:04You starting Tucker Craft? Yes. With 98% of snaps?
35:07Yes. Are you starting any of the running backs?
35:10No. In this Thursday night game? I don't think you can.
35:14And Jordan Love? Would you start Jordan Love or like Jared Goff this week?
35:19Jared Goff. How about Tyler Shuck? Or Jordan Love?
35:22Shuck. What about Drake May? Oh, no. I think you might have found it.
35:26Yeah. Yoinks. Drake London first week with a non-Cooper Rush quarterback.
35:30Are you just starting him? 100%. Kyle Pitts? Not quite as much.
35:34Sorry, what were you going to say about London?
35:37So with London, if you look at the games where he played with Michael Pinnock last year, we have proof of this.
35:44He was on pace for 180 targets. That's a lot.
35:48He was the wide receiver five. He was the wide receiver one.
35:52He was the wide receiver one on a week.
35:55Like he had massive performance with Michael Pinnock. You also had Bijan on pace for over 100 targets.
36:01So the consolidation there, the ability to get these two stars the ball, not necessarily in great conditions.
36:07They're not going to be just destroying the field for yards after the catch because, you know, they're getting them from Michael Pinnock.
36:14But he can get the ball to them. You have seen, we have enough evidence of great fantasy output from both Drake
36:22London and Bijan with Michael Pinnock in there. So I believe that like, like London should be a start of the week
36:29because people might be very afraid, very afraid to play London and you should not be.
36:34He should be in every single lineup. Play Bijan, play London, log out.
36:39Are you moving away from Pitts? I'm not necessarily moving away from him.
36:43He's, I mean, at the tight end position. Kyle Pitts or Colston Loveland with?
36:48Oh, Pitts. Oh, oh, I don't know how you start Loveland right now.
36:52He's got one catch and he's got the third string quarterback.
36:56Pitts, I think, is somebody that we just haven't been able.
36:59It's like London. You just haven't been able to see what the offense can do.
37:04Now, going to Lambeau on Thursday Night Football for the first start since an injury.
37:09I wouldn't be dialing up a big game from these guys personally.
37:13We'll see. We'll see what happens. Yeah. And we'll also see what happens in pre-game warm ups.
37:19We'll see which quarterback decides that they don't want to play.
37:23So they decide that they're hurt. We'll take a break.
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37:53We'll start off with a voicemail. Hey, this is Brian in Minneapolis, St.
37:58Paul. And I just have a quick one. Is Patrick Mahomes back?
38:02What are your thoughts? It looks like it. And you want to know the difference?
38:07Matt freaking nagged. He's gone. Like, I mean, you know, this was like we talked about this with the Rushy Rice and
38:14the fact that he's not being utilized the way he was the last couple years, which the way he was utilized was
38:21really good for him for fantasy football. It was not good for the Chiefs.
38:26It was not like a very good, you know, EPA play.
38:30And now all of a sudden the Chiefs offense looks much better.
38:34They've got the enemy back. It's eh. I mean, we all know what happened.
38:38Indy's defense is not that great. We all know what happened to the Chiefs, Jason.
38:43Hit the button. Oh, yeah. They entered the bone zone.
38:47Ken Bone Walker. Yeah. Oh, just that one, huh?
38:50No, like, Ken Walker on the Chiefs. It's not inside the 20.
38:54That is the bone zone. It is the field.
38:57Yeah. Well, listen. Once he's on, he's in the zone.
39:00Here's what makes Patrick Mahomes dangerous. And if you want to argue for him being back, it's he's only going to get
39:07stronger as the year goes on in terms of being able to pick his spots when running the football and being confident on the leg.
39:16Him running was is like, but shocking. But the thing that makes Patrick Mahomes exceptionally dangerous and this team dangerous offensively is
39:23Ken Walker, not because of Walker's production, but because of the fact that now you have play action and you have a
39:30defense that has to account for, you know, one of the best backs in the game, a tackle breaking.
39:37You know, you have to gang tackle this guy.
39:40You have to keep people down on the line of scrimmage.
39:43And like, it's not like we're hyper impressed with any of the targets that Mahomes has.
39:49Well, Kelsey's look pretty good. Well, Kelsey's look good, but I'm saying like we don't have, there's not the big name out there, right?
39:57This is Tyquan Thornton. This is, uh, you know, not players that you're individually starting.
40:02Rashi Rice has not been wildly productive, but it's because the fact he can spread the ball around and they can play
40:09action pass and pick the spots and take deep shots around the goal line.
40:14What I've seen through two weeks is what we like.
40:17If we think about like the last decade and what we think of Chiefs and and Mahomes and the fantasy outpouring, it's like it's back.
40:25It's creative. It's there was a play where it was like, you know, they rolled out on play action, which you have to play the play action on.
40:35Yes. And Kenneth Walker, he rolls out to the right and he can run in or there's Rashi Rice or Xavier Worthy or Travis Kelsey and two defenders.
40:44And it's like you, they did a great job covering some of the options, but the designs were so good.
40:51It was just easy. So easy for Mahomes to, he could have just picked whatever he wanted, whoever was open, throw the touchdown to him.
40:59I mean, he's got three touchdowns through two weeks.
41:02And I think, I think Mahomes for fantasy purposes, when he's around the goal line, it's kind of like how Jalen Hurts has the tush push.
41:11He gets kind of free touchdowns. The tap pass for Mahomes and the designs around the goal line, I think he's going to have a ton of touchdowns.
41:20I believe he's back for fantasy. Well, let me ask you the same question.
41:25He gets, what, six touchdowns. Yes. You said three.
41:28Well, I meant three each week. Oh, okay. Yeah, three week one, one rushing, two passing, and three passing touchdowns week two.
41:35Same question as Bryce Young. From week three on, Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback what?
41:40Five. Oh, gosh. That is hyper bullish for a guy that's been way outside of that for the past few years.
41:47Oh, for sure. I would put him. He's the quarterback 11 the last two years.
41:52Would you rather have Bryce Young every week or Patrick Mahomes every week?
41:56Mahomes. Easy Mahomes for me. I think maybe eight or nine is where I would put him.
42:02Look, not every game is going to be 47 pass attempts, and that's what we got in week two because Indianapolis kept up, right?
42:10Yeah. I mean, Miami this week, you better get it early because if they're out ahead of this thing, you're not going
42:17to need to throw the ball 47 times. Well, he only threw the ball 27 times in week one, but he's still
42:25around the goal line, got the touchdowns. Yeah, 184 yards passing.
42:28But over 20 fantasy points was a great week.
42:31I would feel far more confident with Mahomes returning.
42:34I mean, we've kind of just waited years of like, what is going on?
42:39Why? What happened? Like Mahomes is, it still looks like he's a great player.
42:44Matt Nagy. Matt Nagy and I mean, maybe we're oversimplifying things, but the Kenneth Walker addition is just so outrageous.
42:50So if you have to say yes or no, what is your answer?
42:55Jason said yes. What's my question? Is Patrick Mahomes back?
42:58Oh, I would say yes. All right. I would say no.
43:02Lane in Idaho. Hey guys, I've got a tough one for you.
43:06Would you rather have Javante Williams or Jeremiah Love for the rest of the season?
43:11Oh. I would probably take my shot on Jeremiah Love in that situation.
43:15Interesting. So I mean, this is literally, this is, this is talent versus opportunity.
43:20Javante will like the contract of Javante. The fact that Malik Davis who had been, it was being prepped to be the
43:27RB two got hurt right before the season started.
43:30It's Javante's backfield. What? So you, then how do we feel about does Jeremiah Love actually take over for the Cardinals?
43:37He'll get more and more work as the season goes along.
43:41That is just for sure. I mean, that happens for all of these rookie running backs, especially for, it happens for rookie running backs, not for the what?
43:50Number three overall pick. Yeah. He could be coming back from the ankle still.
43:55Yeah. That's a fair point. This is an easy Jeremiah Love for me.
43:59If I could trade Javante, if I have him in any league, I would go and offer him for love right now.
44:06And I would expect you're going to get that turned down.
44:10Yep. But it's definitely love. I was just looking at, I was so curious about the Matt Nagy years.
44:16Here's my home's fantasy finish. I know there's a lot more.
44:20There's Tyreek in here, but my home's like, I'm for it.
44:24Quarterback one, four, four, one gets Matt Nagy eight, 11, 11.
44:27Matt Nagy's gone. How many Super Bowls did they win in those years?
44:32Oh, that's fine. I mean, I don't, I don't give a crap about that.
44:36Yeah. We're not the Super Bowl lures. Well, I, yeah, I mean, it's no, I get it.
44:42I for fantasy purposes. I understand it, but winning like Matt Nagy should get credit for that part of the equation.
44:49Right. But now the they'll probably win with a lot of points.
44:53Yeah. They were winning before Matt Nagy with a lot of points.
44:57It's awesome. I'm going to bench Burrow for Shucks considering he has now outperformed and scored in two weeks in a row.
45:04Thanks. Oh man. Hi. Shuck versus Burrow this week.
45:07So Shuck gets the Las Vegas Raiders. Joe Burrow plays the Pittsburgh Steelers.
45:12Pittsburgh's been one of the best defenses so far in the league.
45:16And I mean, those AFC North matchups. They can get dirty.
45:19I have. But, but I think the Raiders defense is, is outstanding.
45:23If they're the number one defense, by the way, fantasy wise, the Raiders.
45:28Yeah. So, I mean, through two weeks. So I don't think either one is a cupcake.
45:33I like the fact that Shucks at home. I think in Pittsburgh is a challenge.
45:38I lean the Shucks side, man. That's so crazy.
45:41If you didn't give me the matchups, I'd say just stick with Burrow for more time.
45:46But I lean Shuck this week. I agree exactly what you're saying.
45:50And if obviously Burrow is better than Shuck the rest of the season, I would much rather have.
45:56Yeah. If you're playing matchups this week, I think you stay in the flames with Shuck leading the league in passing volume.
46:04The last time I think we saw Joe Burrow in Pittsburgh, he was the quarterback 18 through a touchdown.
46:10And Tyler Shuck is dominating every single start sick question on our website.
46:14So we have a good reason. Starts it to Tyler Shuck or Bryce Young, Tyler Shuck or Jared Goff, Tyler Shuck or
46:21Joe Burrow, Tyler Shuck or Drake May, Tyler Shuck or Jordan Love.
46:25Because you want to know whether you should stay in the flames or not.
46:30And, you know, it's been good for Tyler Shuck.
46:33The Baltimore game wasn't some like wild. I guess he had the rushing touchdown.
46:38Yes. Which was he had the rushing touch at the very end.
46:42Yeah. I mean, I was going to say it's been 23, 22 points.
46:46Would you play Tyler Shuck or Bryce Young right now?
46:49I mean, Bryce Young has scored more in both weeks.
46:53It's Cleveland, man. I probably would play Bryce Young this week.
46:56I told you I'm worried about Calvin Banks being out combined with Max Crosby this week.
47:02I don't blame you. So it's I mean, it's the Tyler Shuck went out there and it wasn't quite as strong this week.
47:09I would not be shocked. OK, so based on what you're saying, what we just said, and I I don't know if
47:17we're going to scrub the tape after this. We can do that.
47:21We have the podcast. Yeah, we can. Who knows what we're recording.
47:25What was just said was the order of starts should go.
47:28Oh, gosh. Yeah. You did. Bryce Young. Oh, man.
47:31Yeah. Tyler Shuck. Joe Burrow. Disgusting. I think. Do you have the.
47:35Make a note fortitude. Make a note right now.
47:38Of this moment. Clip it. And I want to come back next week and see if we were right or wrong with the final results.
47:47But yes, that is my final answer. Also, if we're wrong, please do not.
47:51Yeah. Well, I don't know about this. We stuff.
47:54Yeah. Oh, gosh. I said that you did. And you know what?
47:58If you're right that all the glory goes to you and you alone.
48:03Yeah, you're doing a high. I'm happy to do it for you.
48:07I want to say one more thing about Bryce Young.
48:10There is a chance that we have the magical equation in place with Carolina's defense not being good enough.
48:16Yeah. On a regular basis. Like part of what we want to see.
48:21I might have said places, right? No, you just went Southern for a little bit there.
48:26Bases. I do declare. I do declare. Bryce Young's defense is not very good.
48:31But the Panthers offense. It's it's magical. Like you play fast.
48:34You throw more than you're supposed to. And your defense is not that great.
48:39Cincinnati's defense has looked vastly improved. Yes. The Saints have a good defense as well.
48:44Their defense is much better than Carolina's. I have through two weeks.
48:48Like, like, do we think that Deshaun Watson can get some stuff done against Carolina this week?
48:54Probably. They can probably move the football against Carolina.
48:57So I from a game script perspective, the way that Cincinnati's defense has been playing in Pittsburgh's defense.
49:03What's the over under that game? I mean, that game's got to be like 40 points.
49:08That is. I mean, 40 and a half points.
49:11I bet. That's my guess. I don't know which game.
49:14Cincinnati Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh. We got and that's the 42 and a half.
49:19I'm seeing. Yeah. I mean, that's and what's that?
49:22What's the over under in the Carolina 42 and a half son of a gun.
49:27But here. Here's what I'll say. Son of a gun.
49:30Carolina. It's it's harder to buy in because we have we have the track record is.
49:35Oh, we don't have to persuade anybody to believe in Bryce Young for this year.
49:40Yes. It was like zero chance. Absolutely. Yes. The track record.
49:44I think might still be the position. The track record is why is he called a Sandman in our in our because
49:51he puts you to sleep because he's so boring.
49:54You can. That was Sandman. That was a throw away from years.
49:58I don't remember anything about who is Bryce Young on our site.
50:02Wow. Sandman. Sandman. I don't remember that. Delete it, Jason.
50:06I will delete that. You can take that out.
50:09So long as I can add Meowvin Harrison. Yes, please make that happen.
50:13Deal? Deal? One moment, please. Can I get the computer?
50:16The computer? Computer. That's it! No. What are you?
50:19What did you just do? What in God's name are you doing?
50:23I just tried to switch the page and hit the wrong one.
50:27Oh, okay. Okay. That wasn't like you thinking you were making an editorial change?
50:32Not at all. A decision? Okay, well the computer confirmed it so Meowson Harrison Jr.
50:37is there and there's no more Mr. Sandman. Here, let me get through this.
50:42Because the track record is not just non-existence where you're like, like with Tyler Shuck, he could be great.
50:48We just don't. He could be a boat. We don't know yet.
50:52Bryce Young's track record, awful. Awful. So this would be even more surprising.
50:56But this was the storm that made the Cincinnati Bengals and the Dallas Cowboys the best for fantasy football last year.
51:03High powered potent offense that has to throw all the time because their defense stinks.
51:08And if they really are going to trust Bryce Young, we all believe in Ted Arroa and McMillan.
51:14I didn't like him in the draft because I'm like, if Bryce Young's only going to throw for 200 yards a game.
51:22Yep. That was your argument. Then you're drafting him at his ceiling.
51:26I did not see this as a potential outcome for the Panthers.
51:30But maybe you want to like at least take some, put a couple chips into this and see what happens.
51:36I mean, right now, Atlanta's not winning this division.
51:39Correct. No way. Tampa doesn't look like it. Tampa sucks right now.
51:43I would still take the Saints to win. But those are the two teams.
51:48But fantasy purposes, we might, we might have a, that's what I'm saying.
51:52We might have some George Clooney, Marky Mark happening right now.
51:56This could be a perfect storm. Perfect storm. Yeah.
51:59Could be. Yeah. The movie's okay. So I like when he slinks into the shadows.
52:04Is this, is Hubbard someone that you should be trading for?
52:08Cause. Well, especially with, well, I don't know that you can now with Brooks out.
52:13He's going to catch the football. You can trade for Hubbard.
52:16I promise it's not untouchable. Yeah. No, but you, well, you trade Javante Williams.
52:21People might have Hubbard. Yes. Oh my gosh. Yeah.
52:24Would I trade Javante? I don't know if I do that.
52:28I don't know if I'd have the guts. That's that.
52:31I mean, I, that one is like, I don't think I would do it, but I can easily see the path for Hubbard being better.
52:39Maybe you could get he who dares wins. This guy back behind him right now.
52:44Yes. Yeah. And, uh, uh, would you rather have Chuba rest of season or Travion rest of season, Jason Travion.
52:51He said that very definitively. I still think Travion is going to be very good.
52:56It, he can whiff on a bunch of past plays.
52:59He can run for two yards of carry on 80% of his carries.
53:04And I think he has a fine fantasy season because he's going to break the podium.
53:09Not there. He wasn't really paying attention. His, uh, his, I don't know if he wasn't paying attention or he just didn't understand.
53:17I don't think he understood the question. Yeah. If you don't know what we're talking about, he had a, he had a moment.
53:24And Travion Henderson had a moment, uh, at a press conference where he was asked about like, well, it doesn't matter what he was asked about.
53:33He had no idea what was happening. He asked the guy like four times and was basically like, okay, uh, I don't know what you're saying.
53:42It is a dumb question. Uh, it was a dumb question.
53:45It's a dumber answer. I think, um, yeah, that those will be some interesting guys over the back half of the season.
53:53So, uh, AJ Dillon, to answer your question, uh, negative rushing yards last week.
53:57How many carries though? Three. Okay. Impressive. Total, total carries to have negative yards.
54:02Yeah. If you're on one carry. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
54:05Three attempts and total. You went backwards. I've never doubted that AJ Dillon wants to do well.
54:11Oh yeah. I believe his heart is in the right place.
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