0:00Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! Monday, September 28th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway.
0:10I hate injuries. There are so many injuries. There are many.
0:14And I even hate them. I hate them extra.
0:17I extra hate them when they happen at the top of a game and not the bottom.
0:22You know what I mean? If you're going to get injured, at least respectfully, even if it happens early, score a touchdown first.
0:29Score a touchdown, then pull your hammy. You know, that's just the respectful way to do it.
0:35I mean, A-chan, beginning of the game. Terrence Ferguson, beginning of the game.
0:39Dude, he was going to be so good. Right after I tweeted.
0:43Oh, you and me both. Yeah, I saw you posted.
0:46I literally have him everywhere except our dynasty leagues.
0:49But Jason, why didn't you recommend Tyler Higbee? Oh.
0:52We have news happening. Dude, don't hit the button!
0:55Hit the button! Breaking news. The Giants are trading for a quarterback.
0:59Okay. Is this a big boy quarterback? From Minnesota.
1:02J.J. McCarthy? Oh, McCarthy. J.J. McCarthy. Did you see...
1:05What?! Just paid Jameis. Well, yeah, but then they watched him.
1:08Fair. What?! So, did you see this thing yesterday?
1:11Joe... Is it Schmoe? Schmoe. Yes, yes, yes. Schmoe.
1:14They're GM. So, did you see this thing where...
1:17Holy... Holy... Did you see this, Mike? He tweeted what looked to be a private list.
1:22Joe Schoen? How do you pronounce his last name?
1:25I don't know how to say his name. I feel like that's something we should know.
1:30I like Joe Schmoe. For sure. Um... So, he tweeted a private list.
1:34I assumed it was fake. When I saw that post, I was like...
1:39Here's what it said. It said, James Winston-Current. J.J.
1:42McCarthy? Need. Then it was a bunch of other names.
1:45Richardson, Flacco, Rush, Scadaboo. Why is Scadaboo on that?
1:48I know. That was why I thought it was fake.
1:51Derek Carr. And then, Drew Brees said no. Russell Wilson, last resort.
1:55You sure this isn't fake? I think that was fake.
1:58It could be fake. But the guy that they said need on the fake list is the guy they traded for.
2:05The 2027 fifth rounder is all it took. Yeah.
2:08It's just... That is... Wow. It's bad news for Dart.
2:11That's where my brain immediately goes... Why is it bad news for Dart?
2:15Well, you just traded for a... It's a question.
2:18It's not a question. No, no, no, no, no.
2:21Dart is bad. I'm saying how... Like, how bad is his knee?
2:25Well, he's out for the year, Mike. Yes. No, I know that.
2:29They won a chance to win this year. They're two and one, right?
2:33It's surprising. So, this just makes sense. Winston's not the solution.
2:37I agree with that. But to go to a developmental quarterback...
2:40Exactly. If you're saying, we're trying to win right now, we're gonna go get a guy who got...
2:46For nothing. They traded a fifth round pick for a chance to win this year.
2:51This is just... This is like, hey, we want some upside.
2:54We don't wanna go out there and get, like, a garbage backup nothing burger quarterback to come in and be the same as Winston.
3:02We want some chance at going to the playoff.
3:05I'm surprised they didn't. This is wild. On that list.
3:08And it's hardball. I mean, this is a guy that played with his brother.
3:13So, this is a bit of a... This one makes perfect sense to me.
3:17It does. I don't think it's a dumb thing to do.
3:21It's blowing my mind. It's surprising. Yes. Because the fact that you have a young future...
3:26You know, you just drafted him. He is the future of the franchise in Jackson Dart.
3:31Trading for a young prospect who was also supposed to be the future of a franchise, a recent, you know, first round draft pick, is just surprising.
3:40Wow. I think it's smart. I think it's smart to go get someone that gives you a chance.
3:46And it will probably fail. We've seen McCarthy fail enough to know, like, eh, it's probably not going to be good enough.
3:53Jameis has looked terrible. He'll be better than Jameis.
3:56And he'll execute an offense. I feel like I would have rather gone and got Anthony Richardson and just tried to, like, create a running game.
4:04Yeah, not me. No, this is the best player you could have acquired in terms of...
4:09This is a third stringer now on Minnesota. Yes.
4:12You know what I mean? Like, this was not...
4:15This is a guy that's left for dead, which made him available.
4:19And now... And you're 2-1. We're actually not talking about the biggest impact of this.
4:24How good the Vikings are going to be. Their locker room is now freed of nine.
4:29And so, I think this is a real good morale boost for the Vikings.
4:34All right, and from what... Because their quarterback looked awesome on Sunday.
4:38Oh, gosh. Terrible. Terrible Kyler Murray. The prior Sunday he did.
4:41For Kyler Murray? Yes! It's funny because when the game started, it's like, why do they refuse to just use Wentz who's good?
4:49Yeah, I mean, it is a wild trade. No question about it.
4:53I don't connect it to Jackson Darton anyway. But I will say that, like, that list was apparently very fake.
4:59Yeah. Was apparently very accurate. The fake list from Joe Schoen.
5:03Sometimes you tell a joke and it becomes the truth.
5:06And the joke ends up being right. And, I mean, look, here's what you didn't want to come in on Monday and talk about.
5:14That Malik Nabors has no future this year for your fantasy team.
5:17Yeah, no, true. That you don't have Isaiah Likely, who seemed like a great draft pick, having any relevance.
5:24Isaiah Likely, who is number nine? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
5:26Which means J.J. McCarthy. Get rid of that name.
5:29Get rid of that name. He's a better identity of nine.
5:33I hope it's not like 37. Oh, he has to pick the just most disgusting number.
5:38Disgusting number. The most aesthetically unpleasing number you can find J.J.
5:42McCarthy. Do it. I will say that I don't think J.J.
5:45McCarthy will start this week. I know. Oh, no, no.
5:49I think there'll be some time to acclimate, but I guarantee you this was a little bit of the hardball.
5:55Hey, this guy can run. Oh, Brooksie, a double zeroes?
5:58Double zeroes. That's what we're talking about. I don't think it's allowed, but that would be awesome.
6:04He'll probably go 19. I had a friend who wore double zeros for a basketball team.
6:09Everyone called him boobs. Makes sense. He didn't like that at all.
6:13No. He did not like that nickname. No, players are not allowed.
6:17All right. There you go. Some breaking news to start the show.
6:21And I was complaining about injuries and there's a trade.
6:24Wow, man. You know who likes? That's wild. Is that a slight resurrection in Dynasty for J.J.
6:29McCarthy or not really? Well, for sure. Better than this year.
6:33Yeah. As of now, he has a chance to start NFL games versus he didn't.
6:38So, yeah, of course, that's an uptick for I did not assume that he was going to be traded for or traded away for that matter.
6:46But I think it makes sense for both parties.
6:49Hopefully, he can figure it out. I know Mike and I believed he was better than he showed in the NFL.
6:56Yes. Obviously, this was a guy who didn't start enough college games.
7:00You see like Tyler Shuck after, you know, 20 years in college coming to the NFL and it's like, ah.
7:06Wish you happy birthday. Oh, yeah. To Tyler Shuck.
7:09Oh, is he 42 now? Yes, he is. Wasn't he, didn't McCarthy pay a ton?
7:14I mean, I see 28 starts in college. Is that a ton?
7:18Yeah. I guess he starts is almost a deal of them.
7:21Yeah. 28. Still needed more. Look, I think that McCarthy, once they made the decision, it was over in Minnesota.
7:28It was not going to happen. Yes. Once Carson Wentz is the second guy, this was a, I mean, a fifth round
7:35pick, you might as well just no sunk cost fallacy here.
7:39Let's get rid of this guy. That way Kyler Murray can just run away with the job.
7:44The three and oh Vikings that is. I think that the, I think the playoff Vikings are going to be a force
7:51to be reckoned with, with Carson Wentz. I think when, when the, when the playoffs come around and Carson Wentz is not that good either.
7:59No, he's not. Defense is so good. You just need somebody to not turn the ball over and both those guys turn the ball over.
8:07That's the wild thing. Wow. Look, we got so much to talk about.
8:12That's a hot start. We've got all the Monday pun day.
8:15We got to get into your reactions. And my goodness, it was hard to find somebody say something nice about somebody this week.
8:23I mean, it was difficult. If the tight ends had a week.
8:26Yeah, they did. It's high ends had a week.
8:29You see, it was, it was the most touchdowns for the tight end position like ever.
8:35I did not know that, but that adds up.
8:37Kyle, help me try to confirm that, but I saw a tweet about it.
8:42I'm not surprised. I mean, you had, you had tons of guys like in the Seattle game.
8:47I don't even know who that dude was. Sobber or whatever.
8:51So we, we call him sorbet. Sorbet went into the end zone and the Higby.
8:56The touchdowns for, for Shuck. Those were tight end touchdowns.
8:59Yeah. And they were, they were mighty fine. I saw some poor souls that dropped John Johnson.
9:05Ooh. In order to pick up Terrence Ferguson. Oh, the long term value.
9:09I would have done that. Yes. I would have done it.
9:12Whoa. Yeah. I love John Johnson. I can't imagine dropping him.
9:16I absolutely would have dropped him for Terrence Ferguson.
9:19Same. Which would have worked out based on Tyler Higby.
9:22Raiders Saints had six touchdowns by tight ends because Mayer scored in that game.
9:27Bowers scored in that game. Yeah. That's the most tight end touchdowns in a single game in NFL history.
9:33It's a tweet from Josh Dubow from the AP.
9:36It looks like there were 20 tight end or 20 touchdown catches by tight ends today.
9:41Most of the day in NFL history. Well, that's most of our positive on the Monday pun day.
9:47Here were your submissions and reactions to the weekend in the most sophisticated way possible.
9:52Starting with, of course, a tight end Brock Powers.
9:54You had Mighty Giggins. Okay. Juin Johnson. My favorite new addition, the Grand Kenyon.
9:59Yeah. Yes. He was great. Or Winyan Sadiq. Yeah.
10:02You had Tyler Higby. Oh, classic. Yeah. A refined classic.
10:05Harold Manning Jr. Do we like Glock Purdy or Brock Tutty?
10:09They're both good and he is great. No weapons left.
10:12Jamiaracle Gibbs. Yes. What about driving in your Kittle Red Corvette?
10:15Kittle Red Corvette. Oh, no. It's Drake. Yes. May I drop you?
10:19Ugh. Oh, Mari Yon Hampton. Starvin Harrison. I also thought Omarion Hamper was very funny.
10:24I like that one a lot. Did you say Starvin Harrison?
10:28What about Michael Sitman Jr.? Yeah. Aaron Rodgers hates him.
10:31Oh, yeah. Or Oronde Batson. Oh, David Mont. Bummer.
10:34Re. Bummer. Yes. Thank you. Bad McConkie. Oh. Tedderotro.
10:37Yes. Oh, that one's good. Tyler crapped. How about Emeka Egbooca?
10:40Or, if Gronk was saying it, Emeka Egbigpoo. And we'll finish it out here with another rookie, Jadarian Yikes, or Jadarian Overpriced.
10:47Oh, boy. Uh-oh. There was a lot of Jadarian puns submitted.
10:51Yeah. About his fumbling? Uh, no. None about the fumbling.
10:54No. Just about like- Yeah. Playtime? I mean, that team.
10:58You know, I'm gonna lose it, by the way, in the great League of Records super team.
11:03I'm gonna lose. And a lot of it comes down to this Seattle D-S-T-PP, whatever you want to call it.
11:09It was- Trying to find it. Seattle was atrocious.
11:12Drew Locke looked a lot better than Sam Darnold did.
11:16Made some mistakes in the defense. Getting cooked, this was the lowest implied point total for a team.
11:21Washington going into the week, and they scored, what, 30-something points?
11:25Yeah. I put that one more on the defense.
11:28Yeah. I mean, it was shocking. Like, what was the final score?
11:32Seattle had plenty of points. Yeah. Yeah, they did.
11:35Wasn't Washington in the 30s? Oh, yes. They lost.
11:38I feel like Seattle was in the 30s. Oh, come on.
11:41Where's the score? 33 to 31. Yeah. If you put up 31, I'm not blaming the offense.
11:47No. And you know who- So, Seattle, defending champs, loses to Washington on the road, right?
11:52It's amazing. To a backup. So, what do you think?
11:55So, they're on the road. Now, they're coming home, right?
11:58You think they're gonna have a chip on their shoulder?
12:02Probably. After losing on the road and giving up 30 points as a defense and the 12th man, guess who they play next week?
12:09At home. Please, tell me. The Chargers. Oh! The Chargers get to go into Seattle after a loss.
12:15Oh, no. After a loss. Thank you for your submissions on Instagram, at Fantasy Footballers, on X, at the FF Ballers.
12:22We'll talk more news. News and notes from around the league.
12:26I apologize. I think I have a little too much adrenaline running through my system due to escaping the toilet trophy by five seconds before the show began.
12:35It was very... We were literally doing a countdown from five because we were ready to start and you were still in the bathroom.
12:42And then you blockaded the door? Well, not we.
12:45The Falcon did. Yeah, the Falcon did. Which was a pro move.
12:49Good job. But, yes, you overcame the garbage can blockade.
12:52Five seconds. And got here with about three seconds to spare.
12:56All right. Case Keenum expected to start tonight for the Bears.
13:00Tyson Bajin did clear the protocol but didn't practice much.
13:03So, they're going to go with the guy that practiced more.
13:06Case Keenum against Seattle. All right. We'll see if Ben Johnson can...
13:10Against Philadelphia. What did I say? Seattle. Oh, I'm sorry.
13:13You got Seahawks on the mind. I got, yeah, the birds.
13:17Pukunakua? Also, on that injury, we got news that Caleb Williams is a grade two hamstring.
13:22It was originally reported there was a grade one.
13:25So, give him a little bit more respect for his pain.
13:29But, that's usually like a four to six week injury if you're a skilled position player.
13:34They're saying they expect him to miss three or four weeks because obviously he's a pocket passer.
13:39But, that does mean I doubt he is scrambling as much when he first comes back.
13:44All right. Let's talk about the Pukunakua situation. He did not play again.
13:49They said he could return in week four, but he's dealing with an injury that's impacting his explosiveness and the, I mean,
13:56the Shmifty tweet, the organization does not believe surgery in this situation will be needed, but it's not off the table if
14:03Nakua does not show signs of improvement. Weeks ago, Andy was saying he was afraid of sports hernia.
14:09Then, after that, McVeigh comes out and says, he definitively said it is not a hernia.
14:14Then, after that, it's being reported as a hip injury and a groin injury.
14:18And, it goes back and forth. It's his hip, it's his groin, it's his hip, it's his groin, which sounds, I don't know, exactly like a sports hernia.
14:28It looks like a core muscle injury that if he doesn't get his explosiveness back, here's the problem with those injuries.
14:34And, this is red alert, and maybe he's back next week.
14:38But, is he the same Puka next week? You know what I mean?
14:42Is he as explosive? Also, the longer you wait to rehab this, obviously the longer it will take to recover from a surgery if you need one.
14:51A sports core injury surgery is going to take some time to recover from and you're losing weeks.
14:57That's my biggest concern about the season. Sure. So, you know, it was a loss last night.
15:02It was a crazy game. It seemed like there was no chance for Denver to score.
15:07Then, they managed to figure out how to do it.
15:11And, they lose another game. I mean, they're 1-2.
15:13I can't believe they won. I know. But, watching that game, it felt like the Rams were in complete control, even until the very end.
15:22When they were not, when they were losing, you're like, hey, no, the Rams, they're fine.
15:27They got this. Right? 100%. I mean, it really seemed like they were in control of that game.
15:33Some of that is, you know, when you're on the road, it makes a difference.
15:37That kind of the vibe of the stadium behind you at the end of the game, it's so funny.
15:44I was watching that game and I was like, the Denver Broncos don't have a great offense.
15:49But, what they do have, genuinely, is they believe that they are a great team.
15:54They believe that they are going to win every game.
15:57They go, you know what I mean? Like, if they're in a game at the end, they have that winner's mentality that
16:04carries over to games, even though you watch for a lot of this game, it was like, man, their offense just didn't look good.
16:12And, they figure it out in the end. So, the biggest news, Devon A.
16:17Chan, out for the year with a torn ACL.
16:19It's a big one. Now, I actually think there's going to be some nuance and thought here as we get into waivers tomorrow.
16:27Because, the initial knee-jerk reaction that I had because, you know, Oli Gordon took over and played the rest of the game.
16:34Looked good. Looked, I think Oli Gordon's a good player.
16:37I've thought that for a while. Ever since he's, I mean, every snap he's gotten, I feel like he has something better than the Jalen Wright.
16:46But, Jalen Wright wasn't, Jalen Wright's ahead of him in the depth chart, technically.
16:50And, did not play in this game. He was out with a foot injury.
16:55So, I'm not saying you don't dump a lot on Oli Gordon versus Jalen Wright.
17:00I'm just saying there's a chance and probably a likelihood that there's a committee situation in some proportion here.
17:06Yeah. They like Jalen Wright. And, you know, if you just think this guy's going to take over with the kind of
17:13market, you know, target market share, running back share in this offense, I'm, you know, as A.
17:18Chan, I don't think that's happening. No, of course not.
17:22Devon A. Chan over his two healthy games was getting 81% of the snaps.
17:26That's an outrageous number for running backs. They don't play 81% of snaps.
17:30During that time, he was averaging less than 10 fantasy points per game.
17:35So, now you split that up on a bad offense between Oli Gordon and Jalen Wright.
17:40Is it going to be the number one pickup?
17:43Maybe if you're a running back needy team, is it going to be a rest of season great fantasy asset?
17:49No. Yeah, that one's a tough one. I think there were some teams this week that kind of put up a little bit of a fight.
17:58Miami was one of them. I mean, they looked okay in stretches of this game, kept the game close.
18:04But huge bummer. We lose another player for the entire season.
18:07Baker Mayfield dislocated his thumb and was screaming on the field.
18:11Yeah. Also just on such a dumb play. Yeah, they didn't need to try to pick up a third and 19 with
18:18three timeouts and a chance to just let their defense go out and get them the ball back.
18:24They're expecting the last report two to four weeks with the thumb.
18:28MRI today. More injuries. I mean, the quarterback injuries have been wild this year.
18:32Yeah. Yeah. And they have such ramifications for everybody in those offenses, right?
18:36With Jaden and Dart and these guys going down, you know, whether it's Bucky Irving or a Buka's chance to surge back
18:43to relevance or whatever the case may be just sucks.
18:47Agreed. Brees Hall left in the second half with a thigh injury, did not return.
18:52No, the quote was also not great. He said, quote, I felt something when I was running and then I got tackled
18:59and planted and then felt something else. So we'll see.
19:02Felt two things. Hmm. Hmm. Not great. Hmm. I didn't realize it was that bad.
19:07Who's got him in dynasty? Brees Hall? Yeah. I bet it's you.
19:11I only say that because let's talk about this next player.
19:14Travis H. H. And who's got two of my three running backs?
19:18Exiting with a hamstring strain. Yeah. It's been like survival right now in a lot of leagues.
19:24The issue with H. And juniors hamstring strain is that he was on the injury report this week with a hamstring injury.
19:31So whenever you re aggravate it, you're usually going to miss some time.
19:35And the the running game of the Saints against the Raiders actually looked OK.
19:39Like H. And finished 13 for 57. And caught both and caught his two targets.
19:44I mean, it was it was we were on path to a much better game for him.
19:50So this is a bummer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, my goodness.
19:54All right, Mike, what's next on the docket? So we got good news.
19:58So no, we got to keep going through the bad news first.
20:02Rashad White. He injured his shoulder. He did not return to the game.
20:06He was seen with an ice pack on his shoulder.
20:09And the the the Washington commanders. Yeah, they're awesome.
20:12The first thing they did was they signed Austin Eckler, which that's fun.
20:16Shout out to we love Eckler. Yeah. Great friend of fantasy football.
20:20Great player in his time. Doesn't seem like good news for Rashad White if they immediately put a guy who would take over that job on the team.
20:29So many more injuries to talk about. Jack Bass fractured his forearm.
20:33So that'll be a long time. And then Justin Jefferson.
20:36This one. This one is a problem because every medical person I saw break this injury down because he did not return.
20:44They're all correlating it to the same injuries we saw with AJ Brown, you know, high ankle.
20:49Yeah. High ankle sprains last year were all one to three week injuries this year.
20:54They are surgery. They are six to eight week injuries.
20:57Apparently ankles are getting softer or something. Is that an official?
21:01That's a more speculative. Now, we don't. I mean, they have a week six by it looks like a high ankle.
21:07We'll see what the final report is. Mike Evans got carted off with a rib injury.
21:13He got some mooshed. Yeah, I just. I just feel like it's always something.
21:17Yeah, it is. And what's crazy is usually it's his soft tissue.
21:21This was all of his organs. Yeah, I mean, he.
21:24This was. He got absolutely. Organs are soft. That's that's true.
21:28Well, the. I always say organs. The ribs that protect the organs.
21:32They turn soft. And I mean, he got just smacked in the ribs.
21:36So other than. As he walked off. Stribbling. Demarcus Robinson, Christian Kirk.
21:40You know, Mike Evans. They've got everybody in the receiving game.
21:43It is tough. Like Brock Purdy. They're leading receiver.
21:46Didn't have a catch. Did you know this Jason?
21:49No. Yeah. Yeah. Debo Samuel led the team in receiving.
21:52Oh yeah. 80 receiving yards. Zero catches. Because of the.
21:56The hook and ladder. Yeah. I mean. That's ridiculous.
21:59That's wild. Jalen Coker quad injury didn't return. You don't like that with the wide receiver.
22:04And apparently Ted Aron McMillan is not him. Dude.
22:07Jalen. I believe the. I saw it was one target after Jalen Coker left.
22:11And there was plenty of time. And they. Had a game script that they needed to throw.
22:17And they were not. Bryce was not throwing at McMillan.
22:20Bryce Young has looked 12 percent. Very, very good.
22:23When Jalen Coker has been available. Yeah. For your first round wide receiver.
22:27Offensive rookie of the year. A 12 percent target share.
22:30When you're having to throw is. Oh it's Darren Waller in the flats.
22:35It was. I mean. I mean the pass rushing.
22:37Mason Graham and company. Like the pressures. I think there were.
22:41Like five players in Cleveland that had three plus pressures each.
22:45That was a big component to not being able to get it down field.
22:49But it's feeling a little bit like the Coker.
22:52Coker Michael Wilson comp. And the Ted McMillan. Yeah.
22:55I don't. Marvin Harrison comp. I don't agree with that because.
22:58That's a little extreme. I'll admit that. Marvin is bad.
23:02Teddero is good. Yes. He is a good player.
23:05I mean like Mike just said. He was the offensive rookie of the year last year.
23:10He had over a thousand yards as a rookie.
23:13Uh. That was a bad game. All wide receivers have down games.
23:17He should have been targeted more. We're surprised he's not.
23:20That's not prescriptive going forward. I mean this is a player who as a rookie was targeted 122 times.
23:26So next week versus Detroit who's got a very banged up secondary.
23:30I would be happy to start Ted. Yeah. 94% of the routes and five targets for McMillan.
23:35You know what you said is true. Ted McMillan is good.
23:39I. Is he great. Can he get to. Can he get to great.
23:43I don't know. Jalen McMillan aggravated his knee injury.
23:46Terrence Ferguson on almost the first play of the game.
23:49Ankle injury. Then came back in. Then hurt it again.
23:53Came back. Like a dog got that first down he needed.
23:56Despite jumping on one leg. And then he's like I can't.
24:00This crazy man. There's a. Add depth. If you can.
24:03Because you're going to need it. We haven't even gotten into bi-weeks.
24:07Nope. These are bi-weeks made by players. Mm hmm.
24:10Also I can't talk about anybody else that I like.
24:13Because it is not going. You're killing guys. I mean I liked H.
24:17And a lot guys. I liked H. And a lot.
24:20And I'm for my other dudes are hurt. And that McConkey is clearly not himself.
24:25If you watch him walk on and off the field he's like.
24:29Struggling. Man that team is in so much trouble.
24:32Oh. I mean we said it two weeks. The Chargers.
24:35The Chargers are in charge. Five turnovers and you can't win.
24:39The Chargers. You know you say like. Oh. They're going to charge her.
24:43Like that's a thing. And I've heard people that get really upset with that.
24:48Like that's not. That's not fair to them. That's not a real thing.
24:52Here's a tweet from Evan Abrams. Since 2013 teams with five plus turnovers.
24:56And a negative four turnover margin. Are three. Eighty one and one.
25:00Straight up. The three wins were. The Bills over the Chargers.
25:03The Chargers. Oh I'm afraid of these next two.
25:06The Jaguars over the Chargers. Okay. And the Broncos over the Chargers.
25:10The Chargers are the only team you can beat if you have five turnovers.
25:15I mean. Dude. What. Is it. Are they cursed.
25:18Or. I don't know man. Well now you have a discussion to have.
25:22Have around a guy we'll talk about in the duds.
25:25Because the snap share for Amari and Hampton. Was not good.
25:29Nope. Let's take a break. Catch our breath. But there was some good.
25:33There was some good. We'll talk about them. Yeah.
25:36That's what we're doing next. All right. Let's. Let's.
25:39Bring some positivity to the show. This week's fantasy stud muffins.
25:42Start of the week. Brock Purdy. Number one score at the quarterback position this week.
25:47Hyper efficient. Very good. Snap share percentage for Mr.
25:50George Kittle has risen immensely. One of the bigger stories of the week.
25:54Uh. He may be back. Two. Ninety seven and four.
25:57For Brock Purdy. It doesn't matter if. All his receivers are gone.
26:01He is just. Slicing and dicing. Mm hmm. Sam Darnold managed to bring.
26:06I mean look at this list. Sam Darnold. Geno Smith.
26:09Jacoby Brissett. Bo Nix. You didn't hear me say Josh Allen.
26:12Lamar Jackson. Justin Herbert. You know. None of the guys that you thought were the guarantees this week.
26:18It was Darnold. Geno. Brissett. And Bo Nix from the.
26:21Grave at halftime. There's. There was a name right under Bo Nix.
26:25And Tyler shock. Yeah baby. Who won that game Mike.
26:28In our battle. In our battle of the. That was a good game.
26:33Our adopted teams. Yeah. Yeah. I think. You want to hear my prediction now.
26:37Sure. No. Raiders win. Raiders beat the Chiefs next week.
26:40Okay. All right. Oh I've always been a lifelong Raiders fan for these last three weeks.
26:46That was. It was an awesome game. That was a fun game.
26:50I mean I did not know who was going to win at any point.
26:54I think what it proved was that both of these teams are legit.
26:58Yeah. Like I just watched two good teams playing.
27:01And we're three weeks in now. And. I think Cousins has three touchdowns in three straight games.
27:07Kirk Cousins has been playing. Fantastic. I almost forget that they have the number one overall pick right now.
27:13Yeah. But Tyler shock. Yeah. Four more touchdowns. He is.
27:16He's a QB three right now. He is him.
27:19QB three right now. This is a week where we were putting.
27:23We're putting to the test. Bryce Young and Tyler shock.
27:26And one of them passed the test. And the guy who passed the test was also everything I said about the defensive front of the Raiders held true.
27:35Mm hmm. And he still produced. He was on.
27:38That's what's impressive. And by the way. It doesn't seem like anybody can cover crystal love it.
27:44Ever. He is always because he's awesome. He's always awesome.
27:47He always has been. This is just like they, they finally have someone are in the team who can get in the ball appropriately.
27:55Like the story of crystal lava was, was so it was on its way of just a wasted career lost to injuries.
28:02Cause Derek Carr and company keep giving them freaking hospital balls.
28:05But the fact that we're seeing what he's doing now and he's, he is elite.
28:10Like he is an elite wide receiver and he's elite fantasy football option.
28:14And we want John's now elite and Tyson's elite and Bayley's elite and everyone's elite.
28:19It's going to be, it's going to be great.
28:22What's what's funny is game when we're watching football, we were usually watching nine screens at once and, and trying to, you know, take everything in.
28:30And we're watching it together when an elite, when one of the greats, when, when Justin Jefferson or Jamar chase has some
28:38crazy sideline ball, you just know you're right. We just give them the benefit of the devil.
28:43Like, of course. Yeah. When Larry catches the ball, you go, Oh, there's no chance.
28:48He got the feet down with those guys. You just go, no, he got the feet.
28:53No, he did. He's perfect. He's one of those.
28:56That's Chris Olave right now. Like he had a, one of those sideline balls where it's like, no way he got that.
29:03No way he got his feet. And it's like, no, of course he did.
29:08He's Chris Olave. Yeah. I mean, the, the saints are one and two, but it, both of their losses went down to the wire.
29:15Pretty much Aaron Rogers, two 90 and three for the first time since week 14.
29:20Crazy. That's a downfield. 20, 21. Oh no. He's, he's bombing it out.
29:25Yeah. I mean, this was, this was a good, I mean, that was one of the almost subset, both of those games.
29:32Yeah. You did get, you got both. Both of them.
29:35The Steelers and the Raiders. Where did the production go to?
29:38Does that make you three for four so far?
29:41Three for four. Yeah. Pretty good. 75% is pretty good with crazy upsets.
29:46Um, but Rogers. Yeah. He, he, he got it done.
29:49I mean, it was very spread. Warren was Warren was good in the passing game.
29:54Metcalf had a touchdown. Roman Wilson had points. Um, you got Friar Muth, uh, Darnell Washington.
29:59No, Muth sucked, man. Oh yeah. He hurt you on your price picks.
30:03Yeah. He caught two passes on like on the matchup against the bangles.
30:07Here's some names that you do recognize top five scores at running back.
30:11Gibbs, B. John, Henry Walker, CMC. I mean, just like that is, that feels automatic.
30:16So the ones I actually want to talk about Jeremiah love and Jalen Warren.
30:21Yes. The Cardinals made a concerted effort to give almost everything to Jeremiah love, which was awesome.
30:26And he had a big game, 21 for 90 and then scored in the receiving game.
30:31Again, if you didn't watch the game with San Francisco, the Cardinals were hanging.
30:36Yeah. 36, 30. It was, it was a very tight game that the, the 49ers, they're the better team.
30:42So they took it at the end, but making this transition and making Jeremiah love, I mean, imagine, imagine taking a top
30:49five NFL running back and the, in the draft and then actually making him the engine of your team and good things happening.
30:57We did get a quick injury update on Baker Mayfield.
31:00The MRI came back, no fracture, no ligament damage, no tendon damage, three weeks or so max for Baker being out.
31:07So that is good for the, okay. That is good for the bad bucks.
31:11Um, to, to give some numbers to Jeremiah love being more involved.
31:15Jeremiah love had 21 rush attempts. Tyler Algier had two.
31:18Um, that this is exactly what you want. You want to see a top five pick getting all of the work.
31:25And I would assume like this is, it probably won't be that crazy drastic, you know, 21 to uh, going forward.
31:32But this is, it should be. Yeah, it should be.
31:35And I, I think this is prescriptive of like the, the change has been made and he's going to be close to a bell cow back going forward.
31:44And Algier will spell him, not split with him.
31:47The routes trade for him. The routes were still very close between Jeremiah love and Tyler Algier.
31:53Like we, like we stop it. Trade for him.
31:56Stop it. Uh, yeah. Trade for Jeremiah love. The Cardinals have a good enough offense to keep up and a bad enough defense to never win.
32:04They're going to be in situations where you can't put Algier on there.
32:08Well, they've got a superstar wide receiver as well.
32:11Michael Wilson. You're darn right. 17 targets. 17 targets.
32:14Yeah. I played against him this week. Only turned it into 89 yards, but.
32:19And a score. Yeah. 11 for 89 in the touchdown.
32:22Great game. Base all two and Javante Williams. Javante looked good.
32:25He, he did better this week than the other weeks combined.
32:29Yes. They, they, they finally had it going a little bit.
32:33And then tootin with the donation touchdown. Did you see the, the, the talk?
32:37I mean, I saw the brief conversation from Liam Cohen where he's like, he wanted somebody else to have a touchdown.
32:44No. Did you see what he's not wrong? And I think he might've even been maybe a little annoyed, but Trevor Lawrence
32:51said, yeah, he said, I wanted to give tootin the touchdown for the fantasy people.
32:56It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I'll tell you what, that smells bad.
33:00Like that's all like betting bad. I'm not saying that.
33:04No, I know. I'm just saying it was, no matter what it is, it smells bad.
33:09Like you didn't see it. Eight plus minutes left wide open in zone for Trevor Lawrence takes a knee up 35 to
33:16six or something or 28 to six. And then, you know, tootin scores on the next play.
33:21You can't do that with eight minutes left. No, not with eight.
33:25If you're Lawrence, you go, what happened? You go total brain fart.
33:29I thought there was two minutes. I thought the clock was much lower than it actually was that, which I, I assume that's what really happened.
33:38But for you to not just admit it is, is strange.
33:41He did seem tongue in cheek. You're probably right.
33:44That's probably what happened. Check this out. Bayshaw tootin.
33:47Cause you look dumb no matter what. So there are just a minute here are the top six players that have hit
33:5415 plus miles an hour, more than 10 times this year.
33:58Number one is Bayshaw tootin 15 times. He's fast.
34:01That's great. Gibbs Walker, B. John Hampton, Kenya. And then Keaton Mitchell.
34:04I talked about, uh, tootin on the Sunday live of, it was like, if you're going to trade for him, you got
34:12to do like people are, he's, he's still kind of buried.
34:15The hype for spatial tootin was very, very strong over the off season.
34:19I loved it. I was, I was fully in on it.
34:23And then you're looking at the snap shares and you're like, ah, well, Crod, which there still is some timeshare.
34:29Like I believe Crod had a touchdown. They're kind of splitting that work, but Bayshaw tootin is, he's getting the majority of
34:36the work and he's a good player and it's a pretty strong offense.
34:41And so it, he is, you know, I've, I like the call to, to try and trade for love.
34:47I think that might be a little difficult, but Bayshaw tootin it's possible.
34:51You can still get him. Yeah. And then Jalen Warren, I mentioned him briefly, but he was everything for the, he was
34:58everything and looked great for the, um, sealers. Yeah.
35:01Yes. Um, including a gigantic, huge run that then got called back on, on a dumb penalty.
35:07And then he fell. And then another huge one.
35:09Well, the reason was two plays later, he, he did the exact same thing out of breakaway touchdown and his legs were
35:17so tired that he tripped like he couldn't get his foot up.
35:20He, he, he turfed himself. If you look at the slow-mo of that, they, it looks like he hit a landmine on the way to anybody scored.
35:29Rico was out. So TBD, if this is still like, that's how they'll move forward with Warren probably will.
35:35They might. They might. Rico might be going the way of Crod.
35:39Might be. JSN, Drake London, Garrett Wilson, Michael Wilson, Tamar Chase, by the way, what is it?
35:45JSN, Olave, Garrett Wilson, the trifecta in Ohio state.
35:48Pretty good week for those guys. Also pretty good week for the guy who actually plays for Ohio state, Jeremiah Smith.
35:54Oh yeah. Four touchdowns. Who was the other guy on the team with all those players?
36:00Oh, there was another one. Don't worry about it.
36:03Marvin Harrison Jr. Yeah. Which, which to be honest for my, pretty good game for Marv.
36:0840 yards. Did you see the route where he caught the pass too?
36:12He actually ran hard and stuff. Yeah. Good job, Marv.
36:15One of these days, he'll be a real boy.
36:18JSN, London Wilson, Michael Wilson, Jamar Chase. Uh, Chase was nine for 98.
36:22Higgins was six for 90 with the amazing catch.
36:25Kristen Watson on Thursday night football, Matthew Golden, both had big weeks.
36:29You had a big week for Kanata Mumfield, which will be an interesting conversation tomorrow on the waiver show in light of the Puka situation.
36:37Uh, you know, Ferguson, it's not a hot swap for, for Higby.
36:41Ferguson has more athleticism and is more of a like typical wide receiver style player.
36:46If it becomes like a Ferguson's out for a while, I don't know.
36:50Mumfield's probably worth a fab or two. Could be.
36:53We'll see. CD lamb had a nice week again.
36:56And then, uh, double digits for pickings for the first time.
36:59Slow start for lamb, but he, he got it together in the second half and absolute malpractice for the, the, the Cowboys
37:07to not to call the timeout with that much time left.
37:10They should have gone to overtime. It was, I mean, I don't think anybody thought that could happen in six seconds.
37:17And then they, that was, there shouldn't have been really screwed it up.
37:21They should. I mean, they should have had six seconds.
37:24I agree. It was a complete mismanagement of the situation.
37:28Kittle Bowers fan and Kenyon Sadiq with the boss diving touchdown and Juwan Johnson with two touchdowns in this one.
37:34Higby eight for 62 and one with the stat line we expected from Ferguson went straight to Higby.
37:40He could be an interesting temporary start if we find out Ferguson can't play.
37:44The, the Sadiq breakout was very fun. Uh, he caught seven of eight targets, had 105.
37:50He had the, the touchdown and that was on just 58% of the routes.
37:54Like he still wasn't even a full-time player yet.
37:57So we're, he will be a hot waiver commodity.
38:00Well, and it's, it's nice to see like on an NFL field him 15 yards, a catch over a hundred yards.
38:07And a lot of that was just with the ball in his hands, um, running away from guys, which is what they
38:14hope they drafted when they, when they spent that high of a draft pick.
38:18So, and they need them right now with some of the other injuries to their, to their other wide receivers.
38:25He's going to be a hot pickup. Yeah. Anybody else we need to talk about there?
38:30We're going to circle back to the duds because that's what we're doing.
38:34I mean, there are some important questions. Yeah. We got to answer them.
38:38Let's take a break. We'll do it in a minute.
38:42Pooped in his big boy pants. I don't, I don't know.
38:45I don't know how to describe the quantity of poop, the size of the pants, but Drake may did you see the clip that I saw this morning?
38:54He was, he was crying. Oh really? I didn't see that.
38:58He was crying on the sideline when Mike Rabel had to come over and, and console him like standing on the sideline.
39:05This was in the third quarter. I mean, he looked, he looks broken.
39:09He looked distraught. Well, is it cause he was watching his play?
39:13I mean, he made some of the most boneheaded, ridiculous decisions.
39:17Again, a bad pass on a bad decision in the red zone.
39:21It's like, what's, what's going on between the ears right now?
39:24Mike Rabel after the 35 to six loss said my concern level is very high for this football team.
39:30Okay. And then Drake may, according to Doug Clausen, tweeting the stat out Drake may nine fumbles 10 picks since the start of the post season.
39:39He is the first player with nine fumbles and 10 interceptions in a seven game span since James, James Winston, James Winston during the 30 touchdown, 30 interceptions.
39:48He was playing like James in the sense that like balls that you should not throw that you you're taught in like pop Warner.
39:56You don't, you know, if you're, if you're spun around and you just don't throw that ball into nothingness and he's doing it.
40:03So the problem here is, um, the bone X we've gotten for the first handful of weeks has been pretty darn bad.
40:10And then you had a confident player in the second half last night after some throws went his way.
40:16What makes Drake may special or could make him special is going to come alongside the confidence to make throws.
40:23And right now he has the least confidence possible because he's made multiple in zone reads where he's throwing interceptions while he's on the run.
40:31I mean, he, he cost them a game because they were down three and he threw away a ball in the end zone.
40:38And then in this game, he did it again.
40:41He has been the quarterback 23, 25 and 30.
40:44He has the highest interception rate in the NFL.
40:47AJ Brown is not coming back anytime soon. He does not have the weapons that they need.
40:52For goodness sakes, K Sean booty would have made a difference because he's not doing anything in Houston.
40:58It's been mismanaged through and through and you're not even, you're not even utilizing.
41:03I mean, Travion had an awful week. He was 2.9 to carry eight for 23 and didn't get, he got one target.
41:10His success rate is very low. I mean, it's been abysmal through and through when Matt Collins is a go-to receiver on your offense.
41:18I say all this to ask you the question and submit to you.
41:22Is it time to actually be, be dropped the landmine?
41:25Yes. To say goodbye to Drake may move forward with anybody.
41:29Well, not just anybody else, but there are plenty of good options.
41:33And I think, I think it's fine to not just hold may on the bench, but to drop him.
41:39I believe good days are ahead for Drake may.
41:42If you want to hold on to him for when AJ Brown returns and the schedule opens up, you know, it's tough
41:49matchup this next week on the road in Buffalo.
41:52Sure. There's going to be a high over under.
41:55Maybe you can talk yourself into starting him, but I'm, I'm very skeptical that you're going to be happy.
42:01So yeah, I think if you drop him right now, it's a landmine.
42:05Now later on, you know, week seven, maybe you get, uh, AJ Brown back then.
42:10And that's Chicago, Miami. You've got Detroit a couple of weeks after.
42:14So I do think there are bright days ahead, but I believe it's a month away.
42:19And so if you want to drop him and move on, you certainly can't, I would not be playing him.
42:25The hardest part is the bright days have to represent like top eight in the league.
42:30Yeah. That's just a tough thing to picture right now, but maybe we get it with some better schedule situation.
42:37Um, Herbert. I mean, come on, man. The chargers.
42:40Come on, man. They got off to a strong start and look like, okay, the chargers are here.
42:46And then they just charged all over the bottom five in EPA per play among all quarterbacks with 50 dropbacks this year.
42:53Dead last James Winston makes sense. I don't know why I didn't work a little pun into today since he might not be starting soon.
43:01Yeah. Uh, Aaron Rogers, Baker Mayfield, Drake may Justin Herbert.
43:04I mean, it, I mean, you can't, you can't lose a game where your defense turns the other team over five times.
43:11Correct. You can't do it. Can't do it. They're so cooked and speak of the cooked.
43:16I mean, Hampton is going the wrong direction. Snap counts 42% for Hampton, 38% for Mitchell, who is the more efficient runner in this one.
43:25Come on, even down 25% silky smooth back. I don't like it.
43:28Yeah. I mean, this, this carries inside the 10.
43:31So it's also a game where I think there were very few snaps for the chargers in the fourth.
43:37Um, I want to say Hampton had like four and it was about the same for, for Keaton Mitchell.
43:44So there were, there weren't a lot of opportunities.
43:47He still got 15 carries on the ground. Um, you're certainly not happy with the, yeah, that three targets in three games
43:54is not the Mike McDaniel H and script. He only ran six routes.
43:58Yeah. And that's the, that's the big issue. Mitchell's better at that.
44:02Keaton Mitchell has been involved in the receiving game in a way that you would, you would hope, especially the way that
44:09it looked in preseason training camp and all that.
44:12Vidal was right behind Keaton Mitchell, one fewer route.
44:15Yeah. That, that Hampton would be involved in the passing game and then Keaton Mitchell would be used kind of in two
44:22running back sets also in the passing game. But until they get Hampton involved in the receiving game, which might not happen.
44:29They're going to go to Seattle next week. It's going to be, it's going to be tough sledding.
44:35He's still a, he's still a good, I mean, you, you brought up earlier the, uh, you know, the, the number of fast runs in the NFL.
44:43He was, you know, top of the list there or like number five or whatever.
44:48Yeah. So he still looked good, I think. And they're still giving the ball to him enough.
44:54It's tough matchup, Seattle, Denver, Kansas city, the next three weeks.
44:57I don't like a game in which they were leading for a lot of it where he gets 42% of snaps.
45:04And again, we, we said at the beginning of the year, the differentiator between like HN and Hampton was like, well, HN
45:11is going to be on a crap team. Hampton is going to be on a great team.
45:17Right. Great offense. Yeah. Nope. So yeah, none of, none of that conversation is to say you drop somebody like Hampton.
45:24Oh no. That's not the context of it. It's just, you're going to be starting them every week.
45:29I mean, this was a guy that was going back to back or ahead of Ken, Ken bone in some drafts.
45:36That's all. And so it changed expectations. Bucky Irving was 15 for 46.
45:40Bucky Irving did not play the final 15 snaps of this game.
45:44He was seen with a heating pack on his back.
45:48Why do I know this? I looked into it very detailed this morning.
45:52Yeah. Due to some transactions in our league of record.
45:55There might've been a Bucky Irving for Devon HN trade for playing for the future, playing for now.
46:01Um, there may be, there may, there might have been one of those.
46:05And Mike is, how you feeling about that, Mike?
46:08Do you want to let the people know what happened?
46:11So I would love to get some candid thoughts from, from Al Borland.
46:15And he's my favorite super league of record team suffered an unfortunate Devon HN season ending injury.
46:21Yeah. That's we are a keeper league. So the, so like those guys moving forward, they still have actually a good amount of value.
46:29Cause look, HN should be back by the beginning of next year, assuming all of his surgeries and everything go well.
46:35Uh, and you just, you put up the bat signals like, Hey, I got this guy, um, you know, come trade for East.
46:43I mean, he's a great keeper. He's a great keeper, but I mean, he's still not going to play for in your team if you trade for him.
46:52And then Jason's like, Hey, this Bucky Irving guy, who's having a real strong start to the season.
46:58I'm just going to swap him just, you know, straight up for a very injured person.
47:03I'm not going to make you send a pick over or anything to help my team for next year.
47:09Get the camera off me. See, it's equal opportunity, equal opportunity support, Al.
47:13Sure. Uh, I mean, I thought I made a compelling point in our league chat, which was that like, this player is
47:20far more valuable than a second round pick. Yeah.
47:23But are you a hundred percent sure he's better than Bucky Irving for next year?
47:28No, not a hundred. I mean, I would say that like, if these players are both healthy right now, there's a world
47:35Bucky has a better rest of the season. That's why this trade is the trade with no draft picks is very weird.
47:42You had to pay zero tax. It's very, well, it was, what was amazing was that I had like, I put the
47:50bat signal out there and then I went and immediately my strategy and I share this because it's a good strategy for people who want to make trades.
47:59It's week three, right? Trust the fact that people are going to have different emotional states on these teams.
48:05I went immediately to look at the teams that were winless and make offers to all of them because for them, they're looking for the future.
48:13And they also, you know, if you're winless or you don't have a good record, you want change.
48:19That's just what you want. Now I, Jason's a very future forward.
48:23Yeah. I started, I went into this year already playing, but I would have looked at two for four, two and four
48:30teams or, you know, whatever the case may be.
48:33And just, they just want change. They want to feel like they're doing something.
48:37So that's a general trade tip I would give people.
48:41It's like teams that, you know, are mentally unsettled by how the season has started.
48:46Go target them for trades because they want to make trades.
48:49I feel like what you're saying is that you think I'm mentally unsettled right now.
48:54You did give him CeeDee Lamb and Bucky Irving.
48:57The context. No, no, no. I wasn't saying you were at all.
49:01I was saying teams that are going to try to win, but are two and four or, you know, one and three.
49:08Our league is so different in the sense of our keeper system and how teams come into each year.
49:14There was a reason why Andy last year, his super team, he got wet in the draft because he was the, you were the worst record last year.
49:23I traded for Walker midway through the season and it paid off.
49:27I'm looking to be the 2027 super team. You're not at all the example I was talking about.
49:33I'm talking about a team that's actually trying to compete.
49:36You also got a bunch of picks, Jay. You didn't get any picks you could have extracted.
49:42It's week three. And he, Andy knows it too.
49:44He would have given you picks. Maybe. No, he definitely would have gave you picks.
49:49You never know. The only issue is, is in our league, we have so many teams that are basically feeling like they're
49:56out of it playing for next year. And so the question is, and all colluding to help one team.
50:03Oh, no, one's colluding to help. No one wants to help Andy.
50:06Do you agree with that statement, Jeremy? I sure do.
50:10Of course, Jeremy agrees with it. Nobody's colluding to help me.
50:13As soon as Andy sends up the bat signal, there's a line of people waiting to help him.
50:19Listen, the thing is, people want to help themselves and I am happy to help them help themselves.
50:25If he wanted to help himself, he would have gotten a pick in the deal.
50:30But he wanted to be the first to mark it.
50:33It's a race. It was a race. It is a race.
50:37I mean, he started the season bad and now he gets to come back from an ACL injury.
50:42Let me tell you this. So I get the band.
50:46I, I, I had, I had, did have two people DM me after I made the trade and told me I should
50:53have waited because they were cooking up some offers for Devon H in.
50:57Does that make you feel any better? No, they weren't.
51:00You weren't one of those teams, were you? It doesn't surprise me that I mean, the fact that what you're saying is
51:07you had three or four people fighting over the chance to help you.
51:11And I'm not shocked. Um, I, you know what?
51:14Al is, Al has got some. Al is playing for this year and he's very upset that Andy's team looks significantly better.
51:22And anytime that something helps Andy's team, it will be a monster.
51:25I basically, I said this and this is a hundred percent true.
51:29This is a thousand percent true. If I did this exact trade with anyone else in the league, no one would even bat an eye.
51:37But the eyes are getting batted. Yeah. Because your, your team is the super team that got hurt.
51:43And so I don't. Yeah. And then you just fixed it for me.
51:47Uh, Travion Henderson, Ramondre Stevenson, both had awful weeks.
51:50Targets went Ramondre's way three versus one that we don't get this.
51:54Nobody understands this. If you want to take advantage of anything Travion does space in the passing game would be part of it.
52:02I don't know why they're not involving him in the, in the receiving game.
52:06They need him out there in space. So much.
52:09I put both guys on the field. If it's a problem about pass blocking, like if you're running to Mario Douglas around
52:16and Matt Collins around and Williams and these guys let Travion be a weapon.
52:21And then Jadarian price five for 15 got, he fumbled again.
52:24He got benched. So this is going down, down for Jadarian right now.
52:28And the team lost and the fumble played a big part.
52:32It was what? 33 31. I mean, you cannot as a rookie come in.
52:37What was it? Jameer Gibbs that fumbled on his first play ever.
52:40I think, I think that was it. Uh, maybe I know cream hunt did.
52:45Yeah. I mean, you just can't do this as a rookie on a defending championship team.
52:50If you want to establish a role and you go out there and you fumble two times in three games.
52:57I was saying it was James Cook. Oh, James Cook.
53:00That is what, who it was. But like you, you can't do it.
53:04They're going to give the ball to Salami. Yeah.
53:07They're going to give the ball to somebody else.
53:10We'll say the, though, the metrics for Jadarian price though, uh, among 39 qualifying running qualifying running backs, he is 39th in
53:17EPA per rush 32nd and rush success rate eighth in yards after contact.
53:21Like these are not, you're fumbling and you're not.
53:24I like the last one. I don't like the other two.
53:28Uh, Malik neighbors. What are we doing? Yeah, this was a Jameis Winston.
53:32It was, it was, it's also like we haven't seen neighbors be neighbors yet.
53:36Yeah. But the, so is he going to be like Jackson dart was perfectly healthy.
53:41Would we, would we feel like that first week was enough for us to feel like he's the same dude or like changed expectations?
53:49What is your thought on it? Like rest of the season, it's very difficult in terms of like that game, the Giants
53:56versus Tennessee, it was 12 to seven and it was 12 to seven.
54:00Not because like the defenses were just juggernauts stopping the other.
54:04It was a storm again. Yeah. Like this was a, this was a disgusting game.
54:09That's why I think part of the, like the JJ McCarthy trade, I get it.
54:14And I understand not wanting Jameis to be like your, everything's resting on Jameis.
54:18I mean, tell man, the ultimate goofball comments, the, uh, well, he's like, we 12, we scored 12 points.
54:24That's six times two is Jameis. The, the, the sound bites from this week were fantastic, but you can't, that wasn't a
54:31real offense for either side of the football team.
54:34Just like the, the Chicago and Minnesota game in week two, you thought this is not the, you need to throw that in the garbage.
54:42This is so I don't actually know what Malik neighbors is with Jameis.
54:47Yeah. I was surprised that neighbors had five receptions in a game environment like that.
54:52It was, it was not good. I think bright days are ahead for neighbors.
54:56Um, the quarterback needs to get figured out for it to be really good.
55:01And I, I don't know if they've got, I mean, we can't have that answer.
55:05Exactly. We cannot assume at this point that JJ McCarthy is just going to develop to become a good quarterback.
55:12I can tell you the signups right now for next week's big dome meeting.
55:16Yeah. People are signing up. Oh, big time. You guys get a lot of new followers.
55:22Big time. Your socials are blowing up. Yeah. Big dome.
55:25We're, we're having a meeting next. Usually this time of year.
55:28We're not, I know. It's usually so quiet. And people are like, Mike is getting on here on Sunday live, which hopefully you guys caught.
55:36And he was like, he's like, why do I have to talk about weather in week three?
55:42Freaking super. Freaking super. El Nino. Get out of here.
55:45Two for 17 for Ted McMillan. That is a catastrophic line for a player that you drafted to be your, your, you know, a top tier guy.
55:54So we'll see if he can do it against Detroit, but I think Jalen Coker is kind of important to both guys.
56:01Jalen Waddle. We've got one bad, one good, one bad for this huge comeback.
56:06It didn't involve him. It didn't involve him two for 10 for Jalen Waddle.
56:10Um, where are you rest of the season? Like Jalen Waddle rest of the season will be the wide receiver.
56:17He'll still be a top 20 guy. Um, I think that the, the Rams are, they're going to be a team that you're going to try to avoid.
56:26Like, I think that their defense is that level.
56:29Yeah. They traded for McDuffie. They're, they're a very difficult matchup.
56:32Um, I I'm still pretty bullish on, on Waddle going forward.
56:36I would say, yeah, I would say somewhere around wide receiver 15.
56:40Jamison Williams through three weeks, four for 49 in this one, they got him involved early and then, then they said no
56:47more nine targets, four targets, four targets. Uh, it was the Gibbs show.
56:51I mean, I'm on raw, by the way, Jason's green goblin for prize picks.
56:55They're supposed to be the layup. The, the, and he, before the episode, Jason comes in and he's like, guys, I got
57:03a line today that feels like cheating. He's like, and I was like, oh, is it like when I had McCaffrey for like 16 receiving yards ago?
57:11Yeah. Might be better than that. It was. It was Amon raw for 32 yards for 30.
57:17All he needed was 32 yards. He caught four passes.
57:20Yeah. How many yards did he have? Uh, 19.
57:23Here's some numbers for you. 56, 60, one 61, 62, 73, 43, one 93, 70, 60, 70, 70.
57:29These all sound more than, uh, do they? Yeah.
57:32Oh, well let me keep going. 45, one 15, 77, 70, 100, 45, 86, 97, 58, 54, one 49, 92, one 64, 54, 68, one 39.
57:40Let me get to this year. Those are the last two years.
57:44I think we got it. Yeah. 67, one 42.
57:47Okay. We're going to keep green goblin of 33 yards.
57:5019. Okay. Oh, football. America Buka still can't get to double digits and it's probably not going to get better with undrafted
57:57free agent quarterbacks for the next three weeks. Godwin has not a lot left right now.
58:02And that team, I was going to say the Buccaneers are, are, are, are, are, are a team that looks like you
58:10do not want a part of right now. You're going to have a couple of weeks without Baker.
58:15We don't know if Bucky was injured. I mean, I know he was injured in the game, but we don't know if
58:22it's anything serious, but that team is right now, three losses.
58:26They haven't looked good and now they're without their quarterback.
58:29So you, you would imagine this team is probably going to start off at best like one in five.
58:35And at that point, your season is over. Speaking of seasons being over, Brian Thomas jr.
58:41Dude, careers. So Brian Thomas jr. Snap count dropped to 37%.
58:44Brian Thomas jr. Had one target for one catch for eight yards in a game in which there have been two games
58:51this year they've scored 35 points, 34 and 35.
58:54Um, nope. It's not happening. Parker Washington. That is definitely happening.
58:58Dude. So good. But I mean, 37% snaps. What, what is this career ending?
59:02I mean, what is going on? You got it.
59:05The Jaguars have to trade him. Like they have to get something.
59:09He feels like a trade candidate for sure. And if I'm, if I'm any other team out there in the league, I'm, I'm trying to trade for him.
59:18This is a guy who has a rookie put up 1200 yards and 10 touchdowns.
59:23And now it's like, he's the worst right. Well, like he is uninvolved completely in this office.
59:28So BTJ was the Harrison year, right? Yes. Yeah.
59:31So both of those guys have gone from their best season is their rookie season.
59:36Yeah. And then, and then decline and then decline.
59:39Yeah. Even lad, um, neighbors to granted an injury, but route routes wise, it's Jacoby.
59:44It's Parker. It's Brenton strange. Those are the, who was the other, um, it's not Josh Cameron, Josh Cameron.
59:50I mean, he's only at 28% of the routes.
59:53Yeah. But how much was this snap count percentage wise?
59:56Uh, well, he were, he had the same exact snaps as Brian Thomas.
60:01That's right. That's mind blowing. But right craft Thomas was 47% of the routes.
60:05Uh, it wasn't, it was a week for certain tight ends.
60:09These guys didn't get it done. Tucker craft, Sam Laporta, Dalton Kincaid, Kyle pits, Isaiah likely and Mark Andrews.
60:15It couldn't be more over for Andrews. That dude looks so slow.
60:19And then he, he's slow and he drops the ball constantly.
60:22Yeah, he does. And, uh, I mean, Kincaid, it was a, it was disappointing.
60:27He humbled two for 38. Yeah. The, the bills were, I mean, they were throwing to catch up the whole game.
60:34Yes. I, I don't, I don't think anyone was like great for the bills is the, the weirdness of, we just talked
60:41on last week's show of, you know, coming off of the, the Thursday game where it's, uh, where Josh Allen, how does anyone ever stop Josh Allen?
60:49He's the, this is the greatest player of in football I've ever seen, but you know that that people do.
60:56And then you go to the next week and it's the freaking chargers are at home and they're slowing down Josh Allen and company.
61:04It's football is so weird. James cook had an okay game, but literally nobody else did.
61:09I mean, yeah, cook was great. DJ Moore didn't get to 10 points.
61:13Key on Coleman was four points. Kincaid less than three points with the fumble.
61:18There was just nothing. Um, I would not be surprised those of you out there.
61:22If you see Josh Allen, not practicing this week, there was a knee injury.
61:27You can go and review it. And then you can see the post game speech from Joe Brady.
61:33When they got the W he was clearly limping in the locker room.
61:37Most medical analysts are considering this a contusion versus any type of MCL sprain or something like that, which would be good,
61:44but you could see limited practices and you could see limited running for a little bit if he's, if he's banged up.
61:51But yeah, the Isaiah likely situation is unfortunate because that came, I mean, the number one guy that had the rapport with
61:58Jackson dart in the off season was Isaiah likely.
62:01Yeah. Again, that was part of that crazy bad weather game where you, you kind of have to throw that game out and that Minnesota Chicago game out.
62:10I think it will be better for likely. That one was, that was a goose, right?
62:15Yeah. That was, that was very, very bad. The opportunity, the need, um, the chargers are just absolutely broken.
62:22I mean, the chargers are who's it's like, they have so many good pieces.
62:26They've got a, they've got a quarterback, which is the, basically the only thing you need.
62:31They've got a first round running back. They've got two quality tackles.
62:35They've got a, a first round wide receiver in lad and their offense.
62:39Oh yeah. Second round. First is huge. Pick 34.
62:42First round pick, but their offense scored 14 points in week one, 14 points in week two and 16 points in week
62:49three, Seattle, Denver, Kansas city, two or three on the road before the bye week.
62:54Uh, I would bet their own six is Mike McDaniel.
62:58What is going on? It's not just McDaniel. No, you can't.
63:01Yeah. You can't go this out McDaniel. Cause last year they didn't.
63:05I mean, this is three straight years with hardball underwhelming.
63:08Hmm. It's a mystery. Yeah. I'm sorry. Chargers fans.
63:11It's not like we weren't rooting for you, man.
63:14They like glad. We like Hampton. Two of the guys are my guys based on the expectations for Mike McDaniel to do what he's done with these guys.
63:23Yeah. The, the chargers and the Patriots are the two teams that I feel like are, are broken right now.
63:30The bottom four scoring teams in the league, the dolphins.
63:33Yeah. Okay. We saw that coming. Yeah. The Titans.
63:36Yeah. That checks out. And then the Patriots and the chargers.
63:39That is not far behind. And also Houston's on three.
63:43Yeah. Unbelievable. But yeah, I mean, it's Tampa and Tampa is, I'm trying to look at their schedule because I want to
63:50be a fair minded, like critic of different teams, not just the chargers.
63:54Um, green Bay this week against Tampa. So that's a tale of two teams.
63:58Oh boy. Feeling the funk. And then at Dallas, then Pittsburgh.
64:02Oh, a quick green Bay note. Um, nothing has been said.
64:05This is all speculation. Uh, but there was a video of, of Christian Watson on his last route.
64:11Yeah. And it definitely looks like a guy who pulled up and reached right for his hamstring.
64:17So a green Bay has, I wasn't sure how much you thought about that, Mike.
64:22Oh, I, I, it's very good. A guy who has hamstring problems grabbing his hamstring.
64:27Yeah. It was after the interception. Yeah. So last, again, nothing has been said publicly about it, but I'm just, I bring that up because tomorrow's waivers.
64:35And if you got Watson and you haven't like, they haven't said anything, you need to just be prepared for the, you
64:42might have a Wednesday pop up and like, Oh, Christian Watson is not practicing and just, you gotta, you gotta be in front of these things.
64:51Yeah. Yeah. All right. We're going to say goodbye for today.
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