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Sleeper Picks + Late Round Steals - Fantasy Football Podcast for 8/18

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54 min
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Aug 18, 2026
Published
Tue, August 18, 2026
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Cyrus AllenBreece HallCaleb DouglasJonathon BrooksJordan MasonJordyn TysonJosh DownsJosh JacobsJuwan JohnsonKeenan AllenMarShawn LloydNajee HarrisPat BryantPuka Nacua
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Breece Hall

NegativeInjury25:43

Breece Hall is dealing with a groin injury and is expected to be sidelined for two to three weeks, according to Aaron Glenn.

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Caleb Douglas

NegativeSleeper82:06

JJ Zachariason mentions Caleb Douglas as another rookie wide receiver to monitor, but reiterates the general rule that late-round rookie wideouts typically do not provide immediate fantasy value and are better suited for waiver wire additions in the second half of the season.

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Cyrus Allen

PositiveSleeper42:46

Cyrus Allen is a deep sleeper wide receiver for the Chiefs who has become Patrick Mahomes' favorite target during the preseason. With injuries to other receivers like Xavier Worthy and Taequann Thornton, Allen has a clear path to targets. He is a versatile playmaker with high touchdown production in college and is climbing draft boards.

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PositiveSleeper74:02

JJ Zachariason is high on Cyrus Allen as a late-round sleeper, noting he has been exclusively running with the first-team offense in preseason. While acknowledging the historical trend that day-three rookie wide receivers rarely see significant snap counts early in the season, Zachariason believes Allen could be an exception who earns 80%+ snaps in Week 1. He advises drafters to monitor his snap percentage closely and cut bait if he fails to see the field, but emphasizes that his route-running sharpness and rapport with Patrick Mahomes make him a compelling target.

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Jonathon Brooks

NegativeValue6:49

Jonathan Brooks' ADP has risen significantly, moving from RB58 in early June to RB35, which JJ Zachariason and the hosts find inappropriate for a backup player who has yet to play and is coming off injury. While he has high upside in a run-heavy offense, he faces competition from Chuba Hubbard, making his current draft cost risky compared to other options.

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Jordan Mason

PositiveSleeper36:30

Jordan Mason is a primary sleeper target for the Vikings, as the team shifts to a vertical wide zone scheme that fits his running style. Reports indicate he is in excellent shape, having lost 15 pounds to increase his explosiveness. He is expected to be a dominant goal-line back and a strong value pick compared to Aaron Jones in the same offense.

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Jordyn Tyson

PositiveInjury22:36

Jordan Tyson is dealing with a hamstring injury that will likely keep him out for the start of the season, with a two-month recovery timeline suggesting a potential stint on the PUP list. This injury significantly damages his fantasy ceiling and makes him a risky draft pick, despite his previous potential as a sleeper.

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Josh Downs

PositiveUsage5:31

Josh Downs' fantasy outlook has dimmed following the Colts' signing of Keenan Allen. While Downs was previously viewed as a breakout candidate who could play outside in Michael Pittman's absence, Allen's arrival likely relegates him to a secondary role, making him a less attractive draft target than he was previously.

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Josh Jacobs

PositiveInjury25:48

Josh Jacobs is recovering from a groin issue and has returned to practice, with Matt LaFleur confirming he is participating in stretching and drills.

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Juwan Johnson

PositiveBreakout24:16

Juwan Johnson is emerging as a viable late-round tight end option following positive training camp reports and a clearer path to targets in the Saints' offense. JJ Zachariason notes that while the team has top-tier wide receivers, Johnson's consistent playmaking makes him a name to watch for fantasy managers avoiding early-round tight ends.

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Keenan Allen

NegativeUsage17:06

Keenan Allen's signing with the Colts provides a veteran volume machine who is expected to be heavily involved immediately. While he is 32 and coming off a career-low yards-per-catch season, his presence creates a significant hurdle for Josh Downs' target share, as the team will likely prioritize Allen in the passing game.

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MarShawn Lloyd

PositiveSleeper14:14

Marshawn Lloyd is a high-upside sleeper who is currently healthy and clearly positioned as the backup to Josh Jacobs. While injury-prone, he represents a valuable insurance back who could see immediate work if Jacobs misses time due to injury or potential suspension, making him a viable late-round target.

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Najee Harris

NegativeDepth Chart27:22

The Giants signed Najee Harris to a one-year contract, a move that suggests the team has concerns about their current running back depth, specifically regarding Tyrone Tracy's pass protection and the health of other backs. While Harris is a strong pass protector, his arrival creates uncertainty for the backfield hierarchy.

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Pat Bryant

PositiveSleeper30:39

Pat Bryant is a high-upside sleeper wide receiver for the Broncos, with deafening training camp buzz and strong endorsement from coach Sean Payton. Despite a slow start to his rookie year, he showed significant growth in the second half, averaging six targets per game from week 11 on. He is a strong dynasty target and a potential waiver wire priority if he overtakes Courtland Sutton in the target hierarchy.

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Puka Nacua

NegativeInjury26:53

Puka Nacua is currently dealing with soreness in his groin, as reported by Rams head coach Sean McVay.

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Rhamondre Stevenson

NegativeProjection84:13

JJ Zachariason notes that he and Jason had a heated, passionate debate on the previous show regarding the fantasy outlook for Rhamondre Stevenson, highlighting the intensity of their disagreement over his value.

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Terrance Ferguson

PositiveBreakout10:22

Terrence Ferguson is a breakout candidate due to his explosive potential and increased role in the Rams' offense. Despite a crowded tight end room, he has shown full-time utilization in preseason and camp, and with the team needing a third pass-catching option, he could provide significant fantasy value if he secures a high snap share.

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Episode Transcript

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0:00And now, we turn to the world of sports.
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0:33Don't be a square. Head to ultimatedraftkit.com today. To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:40Welcome in! Tuesday, August 18th. The Fantasy Footballers rated PG for today's episode.
0:45We're pretty good! Yeah, great news. We have to release a rating now.
0:49Great news, we did not get removed. From the internet?
0:53What did he say? Well, yesterday had some moments in it.
0:56You gotta go watch that show. That's a hot show.
1:00Yeah, just, you know. What did he say? It was wild.
1:04It's another day. It's another day of injuries. We'll get into it on the news.
1:09We always have to talk about injuries. It is annoying.
1:12It's annoying. But we have... Let's hold off on that as long as we can.
1:17Yeah, we have a segment at the top here, Performance Climbers.
1:21We've also got sleepers on today's show. Sleeper picks on the show today.
1:25So that's very exciting. These. We got some ambient sleepers for you today.
1:30We have some, like, deep sleepers. Or going after it.
1:33Yeah. Calling some shots. The rim. A lot of rim.
1:37R-E-M. R-E-M. Yeah, I was one... Like, rim sleep.
1:40Like, a lot of rim sleep. Yeah, I got there.
1:43Wouldn't they call it rim? Yeah, that's what I was...
1:46That was the issue. Rim. Rim. Now you said rim.
1:50Rim. Goodness gracious. Eyes and ease. What are you saying?
1:53You were saying rim a lot. Pronunciation has become a bigger issue on this show than ever before.
1:59And I don't know why that is. I was...
2:02Dude, I'm like, basketball. Rim. Double rim. It's hard to shoot in the park.
2:07And I have no idea where... Lanier. I don't know where Andy's going with this one.
2:13But it was REM. Rim sleep. Yeah. Not to be confused with the band.
2:17R-E-M. Yeah. Yeah. It does seem like the end of the world right now.
2:22We're falling apart. The UDK for Life giveaway is going on.
2:26You still have a chance to get in there.
2:29We're going to do a live stream next Monday and give away a UDK for Life and a sign Ja'Marr Chase jersey
2:36and probably some other swag and fun stuff like that.
2:40Ultimate Draft Kit dot com. This has been requested.
2:43Ultimate Draft Kit. I'm not sure why this gets requested.
2:46You're up with both of mine. So if that doesn't persuade you...
2:50I mean, the end's pretty funny, but I don't see the appeal.
2:54But people love it. There you go. So we have a lot to cover today.
2:59We had a big signing in the world of the NFL and it will have implications.
3:05They did it in the cover of Darkness, too.
3:08What was that about? What's funny is we never...
3:11We have a Slack channel for all the breaking news and anybody in the company that finds it can put it in there.
3:19Nobody ever linked an actual article in the channel last night.
3:23It was Jason breaking the news. Except not even breaking news.
3:26He just said... In all caps, he was just like, oh, come on!
3:31Yeah. This is a sleeper episode. And my sleeper today that I was all prepared for was Josh Downs, who I still like.
3:39I'm still willing to draft, but not looking as good today as he was, I don't know, this time yesterday.
3:45Yeah. So we'll get into the signing of a veteran wide receiver there in just a moment.
3:51But first... Performance Climbers. Presented by GMC. Every week we've been looking at players that are moving up in their ADP, their
3:59average draft position week over week in Performance Climbers.
4:02Three names each and every week. This week, Jonathan Brooks, Terrence Ferguson, Marshawn Lloyd are the names we're going to discuss.
4:09Jonathan Brooks has been flying up draft boards. Yeah.
4:12Like, to a point where I think it is getting inappropriate.
4:16He's a rocket man. I saw someone who said they play in a...
4:20It's a legit league that takes it very serious.
4:23They just had their draft. And Jonathan Brooks went in the sixth round.
4:28Holy shnikes. Yeah. And so that's... Is that bad?
4:31I mean, that's the question. I do think that's bad.
4:34Well, I mean, yes. I mean, I think it's earlier than is appropriate for a player who has yet to do anything,
4:41is still, I believe, the backup, and isn't on a team that projects...
4:46Like, let's say he wins the job. Obviously, if Chuba goes down and he's there by himself, great.
4:52But that's not what is being... You're not drafting for that.
4:56No. Otherwise, you'd be taking Blake Corum. You know, he would be the better option if that's what you're trying to do.
5:03You're drafting this guy because you think, hey, he's younger.
5:07He's more explosive. Good offensive line. They want to run the ball.
5:11And he only has to overtake Chuba. He should.
5:14He could. But in that world where he does, Chuba's not going away.
5:18And it's not like you're on a great offense.
5:21So what is his... Like, what do you see as both players are healthy this year?
5:27Jonathan Brooks is the better player. Maybe even early in the season, they make that transition.
5:32What's his bull case? I mean, I think it's pretty high when you saw what Rico did last year for this very team.
5:40Even in a world where people were starting Rico when Chuba was back.
5:44And they are the 10th highest run percentage team in the NFL.
5:48So to your point about the offensive line, I think it's about the first round talent.
5:54And it's about the upside of a team that wants to run the football a ton.
5:59I feel like Rico took over the league for a while last year.
6:04He did for a couple games. He had like a three-game stretch where he died.
6:09Jonathan Brooks has a higher potential than Rico does.
6:12Not that he will... I mean, like last year, Rico...
6:15Everything about Jonathan Brooks is he could be a boat.
6:19Like, he was... Where's JCM? Because you brought up Ja'Kory Krosky yesterday.
6:23If you could start a team today, are you taking JCM 10 out of 10 times over Jonathan Brooks?
6:29Because JCM's a 7th, 8th round pick, right? JCM right now is a 9th round pick.
6:35Oh, are you saying in fantasy? Yeah. You were like, he was drafted in the NFL in like the 7th or 8th round.
6:42No, I'm saying... I'm misunderstanding. Fantasy-wise, Jonathan Brooks is if he goes in the same round as JCM, I just feel like it's a similar situation.
6:51Who would you rather have? I would be taking Bill every single time because I feel quite confident that Bill is the starter right now.
7:00Like, it's certainly not for sure. And Rashad White, it may be far more timeshare than I think it's going to be.
7:07But it's like Brooks has done nothing except for get hurt.
7:11I'm okay with the bullcats because I think if Jonathan Brooks hits, he's a top 24 running back.
7:17Like, Rico had his time. He took over. It got kind of messy there.
7:22If y'all remember. Like, it was, oh, Rico took the job.
7:26And then he's, and then coach is being coy about, oh, who's the starter?
7:30And we all know it's supposed to be Rico.
7:33Then Chuba comes back and they're trying to say they don't want Chuba to lose his job to injury, but it was
7:41so clear that Rico was better on the ground.
7:44And then Rico became the starter again. Then it went back and forth.
7:48So I don't hate the idea of drafting Jonathan Brooks, but the fact that he was running back 58 in early June on sleeper.
7:57And he is now the running back 35. Like, this is, this man's in a different stratosphere.
8:02Well, I don't think we knew anything about his health and whether they were confident with him in the beginning of the summer.
8:10Rico was 51% of the carries last year and 10% of the targets.
8:15And I think people are just looking for higher upside value later.
8:19I guess I find myself slightly more on the Brooks side of things where.
8:23I am too. It's just six. Would you be Brooks over JCM?
8:28Over JCM? Yeah, I would. What about Dobbins? JK Dobbins?
8:31I would probably take Brooks. Wow. Yeah. Mostly because I love Jonah Coleman, who could have easily been a sleeper name on today's show.
8:39And I don't like RJ Harvey and I don't trust Dobbins to stay healthy nor be kind of like, he was a
8:47late signing, a late re-signing by Denver. So like, I think part of the plan in the draft is see what happens.
8:54But is the future JK Dobbins? I don't think so.
8:57So I don't know. Long term. But I think this year it's definitely Dobbins.
9:02So, I mean, Jason, you didn't answer. Are you JCM or Jonathan Brooks?
9:07I would be JCM. I loved Jonathan Brooks' film, but it's really tough coming into year three on a team that I
9:14still don't think is a great offense. And I believe that while he is going to be the more explosive back, I
9:22don't believe it will be a situation where now he is the only back in town.
9:27Chuba is a solid veteran there that, you know, hasn't looked bad.
9:31And so he'll be involved. So if this just becomes a timeshare, I worry about that.
9:37I think it's easier for JCM to beat Rashad White than it is for Jonathan Brooks to beat Chuba.
9:43I think that's my argument. I think Brooks is taking the job.
9:47It's just the at what point and when he does, is it actually valuable enough to start every I will say, if
9:55he gets the job entirely, if he just wins and they're like, hey, this is the future of our team, we're going to unleash him.
10:03Two years ago, Chuba, for the Panthers, he was the running back 13.
10:07So maybe the bowl case for Brooks is that.
10:11And I think that's when people are drafting him.
10:14They truly think he will be a top 15 running back if he wins that job.
10:19That's the part I'm a little bit more skeptical of.
10:22The second name, Terrence Ferguson. If you don't know him, tight end, second year guy for the Los Angeles Rams.
10:29Somebody that I think we hoped would have success in a bigger way for fantasy last year.
10:35This is a tight end room. I know there's excitement around Ferguson, but it does have Colby Parkinson, who is the starter on the depth chart.
10:44Tyler Higbee is still there. Davis Allen, who is flashed, is still there.
10:48I believe Max Clare was the draft pick, right?
10:51Yeah, it's a very, very busy. I don't know what 12 personnel is.
10:56If you start four tight ends at the same time, I don't know what that becomes number wise.
11:02But let's talk about Terrence Ferguson because he's up about a round.
11:06I think some people are excited. Puka is dealing with the groin.
11:10I guess I feel a little bit like Sean McVay has fooled me a few times.
11:15He certainly has. I mean, even going back to like...
11:19Gerald Everett? Gerald Everett. I feel like they are almost willing to just throw the ball to any tight end that's open ever.
11:27They're willing to throw everybody off the scent. We will draft this player in the second just to trick you.
11:33I think that part of the reason that we feel fooled by McVay with different players, whether it's Allen Robinson or Gerald
11:41Everett, it's actually in part because Sean McVay has gotten so much fantasy value out of so many different people.
11:48Cooper Cup was a sensational superstar. You're chasing a best case scenario.
11:52Puka, a fifth rounder, all of a sudden is literally maybe the best wide receiver in football.
11:58And so you're saying if you have talent and you put him on this offense, maybe something truly special could happen.
12:05And that's the argument for Ferguson is you look at how many...
12:09You know, Colby Parkinson was a touchdown machine. Now he's in front of him right now on the depth chart.
12:16But at the same time, this is a player in Ferguson that is very different than the others.
12:22And what's happened to this offseason and in preseason shows that a utilization of Ferguson as a much more full-time player, the
12:29way that McVay has been talking about him as completely understanding every part of the system now.
12:35He's on the field. You know, in preseason for the starters, he was on the field in all formations.
12:41In camp, he's been making play after play after play.
12:45And they really need a third option. And, you know, as Devontae Adams is your number two option behind Devontae, you have
12:52no idea of any kind of solid piece that can really step up.
12:57And then obviously at that age, if Devontae Adams falls off, drops off, deals with an injury and can't get back, there's
13:04an opportunity for someone to be a really talented pass catcher.
13:08He dealt with injuries his rookie year. He didn't get on the field that much.
13:13Towards the end of the season, he started to finally get on the field.
13:18He was like up to 70% snaps. Then he got injured.
13:22In the playoffs, he was back up to some higher snap percentages.
13:26So we really haven't seen him. But on the limited snaps he had, he was over 20 yards of reception.
13:32This is a really good pass catching weapon. So I think the argument for Ferguson is should he actually get 80% of
13:40the snaps, which I think is reasonable because of how many tight ends they use.
13:45He has the opportunity to do something for fantasy that's special.
13:49That's my argument for him. Yeah. 11 receptions last year.
13:52Like you said, 231 yards on those receptions. You know, you didn't get to see a lot.
13:58What you saw was explosive. And like, you know, we were kind of saying they must believe in Devontae Adams because they didn't add more pass catchers.
14:07Maybe they do have more confidence in the tight end room.
14:11Marshawn Lloyd is the last name here in performance climbers.
14:14And he's appropriately gone up a round and a half in draft in ADP because we can actually talk about him this
14:22time of year because he's actually healthy right now.
14:25I mean, Marshawn Lloyd is a very talented player.
14:28The nice thing in preseason was that he was very clearly the backup to Josh Jacobs.
14:33There was a news report today that Jacobs is returning to practice.
14:37He was dealing with an app. Yeah, they all are.
14:41Butterfly, my friends. Butterfly. But yeah, I mean, Marshawn Lloyd is very similar to Jonathan Brooks.
14:46Very, yes. He's a very talented, explosive running back who was young and like could be something special.
14:52And just we haven't seen him. They've been injured their entire short young careers.
14:57It feels like one more injury in Marshawn Lloyd is the Kendra Miller route of like, see you later.
15:04We're never going to see you again. Kendra Miller is the ultimate comp for Marshawn Lloyd.
15:09Talented back that, you know, it's like when they're on the practice field usually, it's like, whoa, explosive play.
15:15You hear some news and then too explosive exploded some part of his leg.
15:20I think there's more forgiveness for Jonathan Brooks because Jonathan Brooks tore his ACL twice.
15:25You know, and it's like, okay, it's a big injury.
15:29Marshawn Lloyd's broke. Stubbed his toe. Everything. He's now on his thumb with it.
15:33Remember when he hit his thumb with the nail?
15:37Oh, that was just bad aim. It was bad aim.
15:40You got to use a wooden mallet if you're Marshawn Lloyd.
15:44This is a player who's on a 72nd injury, so you don't expect him to actually be out there.
15:50But if he is, there's a world where Lloyd and LG are just week one starters.
15:56Right. Because Josh Jacobs, either he could re-injure the groin, he has missed some time, or he could be suspended.
16:02We do not have conclusive, like, Jacobs-Nakua suspension news yet.
16:06So it's like there is a world where, like, the draft pick, if you're drafting this week and you get Marshawn Lloyd
16:13with your last pick, which you can. Like, Ferguson and Lloyd are last pick or free agency.
16:19And if you get Lloyd, there's a chance he's literally starting for the Green Bay Packers in week one.
16:25Yeah, that is true. And when you look around the league at the players who are really, really good insurance options, until
16:33Marshawn Lloyd is injured, he is a great insurance.
16:36Like, Blake Corum, Marshawn Lloyd, Tank Bigsby, these are the players to me that are the best of the best.
16:43And I don't really include Jonathan Brooks in that, because I think he will actually be playing, not just an insurance back.
16:50All right. That was Performance Climbers brought to you by GMC.
16:54We are professional grade. We'll take a break and come back with some news.
16:59All right. Let's do it. News and notes from around the league.
17:03All right. Jason broke the news to us last night.
17:06The Colts signed wide receiver Keenan Allen to a one-year, $8.32 million contract.
17:11Oh, boy. Keenan is 32 years young, entering year 14, played seven seasons with Shane Steichen, by the way.
17:17That was seven seasons with him in Los Angeles.
17:20You remember Steichen brought back Phillip Rivers last year.
17:23The wildest thing to me is that Keenan Allen was the leading.
17:27He had the most receptions for the Chargers last year.
17:31Yeah. Nobody will remember. Nobody remembers that. You say that and you're like, that's not true.
17:36That's true. Yeah. Also, Kyle is the ultimate Keenan Allen truther.
17:40Which, I mean, to have a player of his caliber in me, a truther for him, that works out.
17:46Right now, Keenan Allen has the 10th most receptions of all time.
17:50Kyle, are we 100% sure? Because that is... Come on, Mike.
17:54Come on. Hey. Come on. I am just protecting myself from giving an incorrect stat.
17:59But so he's currently at 10th. Well, if he has...
18:0348 catches. Yeah. Will take him... To three. ...into the third most receptions of all time.
18:08He would pass T.O. and Tim Brown and Chris Carter and Marvin Harrison.
18:13How is that possible? Volume machine, man. So it's really an interesting signing.
18:17Goodness. Seems like a pretty necessary signing for the Colts.
18:20We literally made an Ashton Doolin joke yesterday about...
18:23And they heard us. And they were like, yeah, okay.
18:27I don't like the sound of that. We'll bring him on board.
18:31The interesting question to me is how is he going to be utilized?
18:35I will say this. There was a part of me that wanted to pivot from Josh Downs on my sleeper pick.
18:42Today. To Keenan Allen today. Because obviously in drafts he's going to go...
18:47His ADP will never catch up. He's going to be super duper late.
18:51And he's so old he's getting to the long sleep.
18:55Yeah. Yeah. So he's way past REM. He's like the real...
18:58Way past REM. Yeah. He's way past REM. But he's getting towards rip.
19:03It's been a long week. He's getting towards rip sleep.
19:06And this is... This is a guy who's going to come out...
19:10If you remember last year, the first four weeks of the season, he was like the best wide receiver in fantasy.
19:17He was so good the first four weeks. It was like, oh man, he's eating Lad McConkie's lunch.
19:24And to start the year, you've got Alec Pierce working back from an ankle injury if he's even ready for week one.
19:31The question has been about Josh Downs, whether he could play outside.
19:35He's always been their slot guy. And now this year, with the absence of Michael Pittman, it was like, he's going to get the opportunity to play outside.
19:45He's had that in camp. That's part of why I was really excited to bring him in, because the opportunities for him are...
19:52The Colts were too. Enormous. And then, you know, it's like, now with Keenan there, I don't know who plays where, but
20:00Keenan is not signing this deal to be on the bench, and they need him.
20:05He will be involved. So I think, you know, if you're drafting a guy, maybe like a Malik Neighbors, who, you know,
20:13maybe there's a chance he still does, you know, he's not there week one or something.
20:18You just need a late round guy. You can start for the first month.
20:23I think Keenan gets off to a rope. He was at his career, he's at his career lowest yards per catch last year in Los Angeles.
20:32So that's something worth noting. It was at 9.6.
20:35Inside, outside, you know where he'll be on the field, which is inside that first 15 yards.
20:40Oh, Kyle snuck in all time among wide receivers.
20:43Among wide receivers. For the total receptions? Okay. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you who's catching 50 passes minimum this year is Keenan Allen.
20:52Yeah, he... So... You're going to have to drag him off the field.
20:56So Michael Pittman is not there. Alec Pierce, the recovery is...
21:00I think it's fair to say it's slower than the team expected.
21:04He's been out on the practice field, walking around, stretching, blah, blah, blah.
21:09Pierce will come back and make an impact. But...
21:12What's the difference between Michael Pittman and this version of Keenan Allen?
21:16Probably nothing. Like this version of Keenan Allen and last year's version of Michael Pittman, they're pretty close.
21:22Yeah, they're probably not that different in terms of what this team needs.
21:26Now, you know, is it different for Keenan in Los Angeles last year where, like, maybe not.
21:32Maybe, you know, Ladd is a slot receiver. And Tyler Warren is going to be in the intermediate short area targets to compete with Keenan.
21:41But it's a pretty significant signing in terms of, like, the volume equation.
21:45Especially for Josh Downs. I think Josh Downs... They paid all the money to Alec Pierce.
21:50Tyler Warren's getting all the targets. And when you fade back to pass, you're going to throw it to Keenan over Downs.
21:58Do you have more interest in Keenan Allen or Stephon Diggs?
22:02Diggs. Yeah, I think Diggs has more long-term value for the season.
22:06So there you go. A new lay of the land.
22:09Our updated rankings for Keenan Allen and the Colts are in the UDK at ultimatedraftkit.com.
22:14But he keeps going. And he will help them.
22:17And he knows the system. So Jordan Tyson. All right.
22:21Here, I'm going to try to give you some good news with the bad.
22:25The bad news. He's going to miss two months.
22:29That's pretty bad. Yeah. The good news. I've been told it was the other hamstring.
22:34Really? Than the one that was injured. That's what I was told.
22:38That it was a different hamstring. Is that good?
22:41I mean, he's just systematically weakening his entire body.
22:44What I thought... Kyle said that that is the case as well.
22:48Okay. All right. Well, I mean, yeah. I guess it's better.
22:52Maybe it's better. Regardless... It just shows his capacity to injure both.
22:56This does mean that he's not there at the beginning of the season.
23:00Makes him a brutal pick. A two-month timeline says, I would not be surprised if they just put him on the pup,
23:08guaranteeing that he misses the first four weeks of the season.
23:11That's what I would expect. It's probably the smart thing to do.
23:15You've got to protect himself from himself. I think on pup, though, he actually...
23:20If you're going to get that news, that's probably the best case scenario.
23:25If you're talking for your draft, if you have an IR spot, people are going to be itching.
23:31Kyle, what's his ADP? Like sixth round or so.
23:34So he'll probably... That's mid to late October return.
23:37It's around like... Probably around the eighth or the ninth round.
23:41I'm going to guess people will start getting a little sweaty and be like, hmm, Jordan Tyson just put him on my
23:48IR and I get him when he comes back.
23:51So it's... It really, really sucks. It takes the ceiling case that I've been making for Tyler Shuck.
23:57It really damages that. I still believe in Shuck as a fantasy quarterback.
24:02He was on pace for over 4,200 yards without Jordan Tyson when he took over as the sleeper.
24:08Remember it... The conversation of... You know, we were talking George Kittle and saying, you know, Jake, if Kittle doesn't play the
24:15first couple weeks, Tonjes is a great backup. Juwan Johnson overtakes that now of someone who...
24:21Just another name to add to the late tight end list.
24:24And you really should be paying attention. Like Juwan Johnson...
24:28I might not draft any early tight ends. I'm starting to fall in love with all the late guys.
24:34You can bring Kincaid, Goddard, Likely, Juwan Johnson. I mean, and there's more.
24:39Ferguson. There's a lot. I will remind you, there is almost...
24:42When we hit this point in the air, there almost is always a ton of guys who are like, they're kind of interesting.
24:50They're pretty interesting. And then we get into week two and we're like, they all stink.
24:56Yeah, I mean, it's true. But right now... But the process does work.
25:00But Juwan Johnson has... He has been making tons of plays in training camp.
25:05Like the drum beat for Tyson was extremely loud.
25:08It has been loud for Juwan Johnson, but it felt like, okay, if we have Olave and if you have two top
25:1510 wide receivers on the field, how was there enough for Juwan Johnson?
25:20But now there definitely is. Wouldn't they have Barion Brown as well?
25:24Who's been making a ton of deep sleepers? I would imagine Vele will be the one who comes in and is the starter.
25:32And I mean, if you're talking... Bryce Lance was a fourth round wide receiver as well.
25:37Yeah, you're familiar with the... I'm familiar with the Lance boys and their work or lack of work.
25:43Brees Hall groin injury out two to three weeks according to Aaron Glenn.
25:48Come on, man! Matt LaFleur said Josh Jacobs started doing butterfly stretching and will return to practice today.
25:54Yes, thank you, Josh. Jason has been trying to tell you guys.
25:58I had to DM Josh about this. How far do you get in your butterfly?
26:03I don't get as far as I want. I'm not knees on the ground.
26:08No, nowhere near... Yeah, but you know who doesn't have a groin injury right now?
26:13Jason Moore. That's right. I don't. Rams head coach Sean McVay said Puka is still dealing with soreness in his groin.
26:20I'll DM him. By the way, I want to apologize to everybody.
26:24Groinindex.com has not been what we've made up. It's not our fault.
26:28These have not been officially reported groin injuries. These are just on the lowdown.
26:33Yeah. I don't know. These are unofficially official. When the season starts...
26:37The groin index is tied into the official reports on the injury report, unfortunately.
26:42Yeah, a week before the season. We don't have the groin rumor index.
26:46Right. Yeah. We should look into that. I will say it's very good news because should these have been official, I can't
26:54imagine groin index could have handled this amount of work.
26:57It probably would have. It's just like too much data.
27:00Would have broken the site. Yeah. Our hard drive is not large enough.
27:05Too many groins. Do buttermilk scratchings. The Giants are signing...
27:08Can we just put a picture of how to on there for the time being?
27:13Yeah, we can try. Yeah, let's get that. Let's get that done.
27:17Get the devs on it. I want an instructional diagram for butterfly stretching.
27:22The Giants are signing former Steelers and Chargers running back Najee Harris to a one-year contract.
27:27That's so courteous of them calling him a former Chargers running back, isn't it?
27:32I guess. That's really how it's being reported. I mean, it's true, but former Chargers running back.
27:38So some depth here? I think there might be more to it.
27:42But this is... What say you of such? Najee's a great pass protector.
27:46And Tyrone Tracy did his very best to get Jackson Dart murdered in a preseason game.
27:52I think they might be also concerned about, like, is Scadaboo ready to go?
27:57I think there could be something to this. When I look at this running back core, I thought one of the best in the league.
28:05Like, without Najee, you're talking about a young stud in Scadaboo.
28:09You know... Tracy a capable backup. Tracy is very capable.
28:12And Devin Singletary, he's still fine as a veteran, as your third back.
28:17I looked at this group like, wow, what a good core.
28:20The fact that they went out and signed Najee said they don't think...
28:25They feel that they have a need. And so that...
28:28Yes. That makes me concerned with Scadaboo a little.
28:31I don't think it's just like kicking the tires.
28:34I mean, Najee's coming off an Achilles injury at an older age.
28:38Yes. I feel like maybe it was more... I don't know if it will work for the Giants.
28:44I'm just saying, like, this is a signal to me that they're concerned about some things.
28:50And it's Giro, man. Yeah. Giro apparently loves Najee Harris.
28:53I'm not familiar with his work, or lack thereof.
28:56He's like, if he had been healthy, my whole season would have been better.
29:01It makes... It's a Giro thought. It makes me a little more hesitant on the Scadaboo ADP.
29:07You'd be surprised if Scadaboo was dominating and doing everything...
29:10Just like he's just taking over practice that they would go out and sign him.
29:15Now, I will say this... I don't feel like he's...
29:19I think the name is bigger than maybe the real signing.
29:23Like if Nick Chubb got signed right now... Right.
29:26That's how I look at it, maybe. But I guess if...
29:29Well, that's what I was just about to say.
29:32I don't know if he makes the team. That's what I was about to say.
29:38The one-year deal. If he... Exactly right, Andy. If he makes the final roster, then I'm a little bit concerned with Scadaboo's ADP right now.
29:46We're getting the butterfly stretch up there. All right.
29:49Let's jump into Sleepers. Sleepers. I want you to get up on this desk and kind of demonstrate what they're...
29:56Sleepers. We have a bunch of consensus sleepers in the Ultimate Draft Kit at ultimatedraftkit.com.
30:01These are our individual picks. And some of these kind of deeper sleepers, deeper sleepers today.
30:06We define sleepers as players who are drafted later that...
30:10Or maybe not drafted. Or not drafted. Players you might not know about but could have an impact.
30:16In fact, three names. I went with a wide receiver.
30:19Jason, a running back. Mike, you went with a wide receiver.
30:23Why don't you start? Because I'm sure your energy is very high for this gentleman.
30:28It is. And this is... Look, this is a deeper sleeper where perhaps this is not a draft situation.
30:35But, you know, a larger league, I'd be interested in this player.
30:39I'm talking about Pat Bryant, second-year wide receiver of the Denver Broncos.
30:43Because the drumbeat of camp is deafening about Pat Bryant.
30:46Every... Like, I've seen so many interviews of just of teammates.
30:50They're saying, okay, who's the guy? Who's the guy in this year's?
30:54Pat Bryant. All of them are saying Pat Bryant.
30:57Coach Payton is infatuated with Pat Bryant. He's talking about him all the time.
31:02You know, like, Kay Adams, how are you going to keep him off the field?
31:07We're not, is the answer from Coach Payton. Even Vance Joseph, the DC, is talking up Pat Bryant.
31:13And so just a couple of stats here. It was slow for him, but it's always round three or later wide receivers.
31:21They just... They don't make noise at the beginning of the year, historically.
31:25You know, like, when you look at the gigantic sample size.
31:29But towards the end of the year, he really was starting to do some stuff.
31:34From week 11 on, he was averaging six targets.
31:37Targeted on 22% of his routes. If you remember the playoff games, there was some unfortunate injuries.
31:43But you had the game against Buffalo. Pat Bryant took three offensive snaps in that game.
31:48Pat Bryant had three receptions for 32 yards on three snaps.
31:52He was really becoming a part of the offense.
31:55You have... It's a little bit more murky now.
31:58You have Jalen Waddell and Cortland Sutton. But just all reports talking about Pat Bryant being the guy...
32:04Maybe he even overtakes Cortland Sutton this year. And it's like, is there enough volume?
32:09Well, last year, Bo Nix led the NFL in pass attempts.
32:13I don't know if the Denver Broncos are going to lead the NFL in pass attempts again.
32:19But it's there. The coaches are willing to go that route if they feel like this is how we have to win games.
32:26And this stat in particular is very interesting to me.
32:30He is one of five round three wide receivers over the last decade to average six or more targets from week 11 on.
32:38And I'm telling you, round three guys really don't do anything in the first half of the year.
32:44But from week 11 on to average six or more targets, here are the rookies who did it.
32:50Terry McLaurin, Deontay Johnson, Cooper Cup. Here's a clunk.
32:53Lynn Bowden Jr., if you remember him. Oh, yeah.
32:56But Terry, Deontay, Cooper Cup, and Pat Bryant. The volume was starting to increase.
33:01You saw it in the playoff games. Sometimes he got knocked out early from both of them.
33:07But he looks like he's the real deal. He's a great route runner.
33:11You know, you had Coach Payton, when they drafted him, saying, I kind of see a little bit of Michael Thomas.
33:18Now, maybe that's just hyperbolic coach pumping him up.
33:21But the way that it has transformed to this offseason, the Denver Broncos seem like they are all in on Pat Bryant
33:29taking a huge step for their offense. I think the interesting thing about Denver in the wide receiver room and the running
33:36back room is that there isn't a consolidation that is obvious to us.
33:41In terms of the utilization of, you've got three running backs that are going to get a bunch of snaps.
33:47And then my biggest worry about Bryant is just the existence of the Sutton, Mims, Franklin universe.
33:53Can we get consolidation, in your opinion, to the point where?
33:57I do. Where Pat Bryant takes over? I do think that watching Cortland Sutton over the last couple years, he is still a starter.
34:05He deserves to be out there on the NFL field.
34:08But we're towards the end for Cortland Sutton, and if you have a new emerging wide receiver who, if you play him
34:16all the time, your offense is better, Payton strikes me as someone who will make that change.
34:22There are few to perhaps none of any players this offseason who I've read more constant positive news about than Pat Bryant.
34:29He is really, truly, like every time that there's an open practice, there's tons of different reporters.
34:35It's not just the guys from Denver. Everyone, everywhere, any kind of, you know, inter-team scrimmage.
34:40It's like he has been the big leap forward guy.
34:44And I think it's important to realize those day two, day three picks, they do get off to slow starts in their rookie year.
34:52That is, you know, when you bring up the second half of the year for Pat Bryant and how good he was,
34:59that's pretty much all you are asking. Like, that is...
35:03That's what you can look at. That's what you can look at to see success in future years.
35:09And so I don't know what you do. I mean, to me, this is more of a dynasty take.
35:15Like, I don't know if I'm drafting him in redraft at the end of drafts or not, just to hope that he's on the field.
35:24You can. And perhaps he, you know, he starts week one and overtakes Cortland Sutton in target order, if not in snaps.
35:31But in a dynasty league, he's got a much brighter future than what his rookie year looked like.
35:38So the value should be under what, you know...
35:41Sure. I am also bringing him up. Like I said, I don't know if this is a draft, Pat Bryant, but this is a...
35:49In the first few weeks, if, like, the auxiliaries, you know, like, so the amount of routes he's running, maybe the production doesn't match it.
35:57He is a player that, if he starts making noise, I will be aggressive on the waiver wire.
36:03You know, sometimes you just have to be... Yep.
36:06We bring these names up so that you are ready when we're like, hey, the number one waiver pickup this week.
36:14If there's smoke, there might, you know, and the fire starts to go, pick them up.
36:19You want to go next or you want me to go, Jay?
36:23I'll hop in. I'll hop in. Since you guys both have wide receivers, I'll go with a running back.
36:30My sleeper this year is Jordan Mason. Yeah. I've brought him up on pretty much every mock draft.
36:36He's the guy in the later rounds that I am looking for to fill out...
36:41Running back for the Vikings. Yes, running back for the Minnesota Vikings, for Kevin O'Connell, and for the new running game for the Vikings.
36:49I don't know if you guys are aware we're, you know, we're not in Minnesota, but the biggest news outside of the
36:56quarterback battle is all about the change of scheme.
36:59Kevin O'Connell has talked about it in every single interview across the board that their big takeaway lesson from last year is
37:07that they need to rely on their defense and run the ball better.
37:11So starting the day after their last game last year, they got together and they changed their scheme.
37:17They're going to a vertical wide zone scheme. The entire reason is to fit their personnel, they said.
37:24That's the San Francisco... That sounds like Jordan Mason to me.
37:27That's the San Francisco, you know, design. That's their scheme.
37:31They're implementing that because it fits their personnel, and their personnel is really Jordan Mason.
37:36Now, Jordan Mason is a guy that's not going to catch a ton of passes.
37:41That's not his profile. But I do think he will be a very, very dominant running game player.
37:47He'll be the goal line back. This offense should be significantly better without nine running into the ground.
37:53Even if you look last year without that scheme, in the games without nine at quarterback, you had him scoring 10.6 fantasy points per game.
38:02That's not like, oh my gosh, you've got to put him in.
38:06But that's like quality for a team that was really struggling on offense.
38:10And keep in mind, when J.J. McCarthy wasn't there, it wasn't like they had the answer.
38:16You know, and they had some other great quarterback playing.
38:19It was Carson Wentz and, you know, and issues.
38:22Jordan Mason is perfect for this scheme. If you look at him versus Aaron Jones, especially this version of Aaron Jones, and
38:30you look at head-to-head outside zone scheme, Jordan Mason has averaged 5.86 yards per carry, one of the best in the entire league, versus Jones 4.3.
38:38Missed tackles for 0.29 versus 0.1. Explosive rush rate 9 to 3.
38:42Like, this scheme is made for Jordan Mason. All the camp reports are saying every day he breaks one long run every day.
38:50And, you know, he's got that in his bag.
38:53In fact, you know, since coming in the league as an undrafted free agent in 2022, there's Devin Achan and Jameer Gibbs.
39:01There's only two players with a higher yards per carry than Jordan Mason.
39:05It's hard to even think about Jordan Mason that way.
39:09It has not been a ton of opportunity for him.
39:12He had the year where, you know, he took over for, because Christian McCaffrey was going to be totally fine until he missed 10 weeks.
39:21And it was like, Jordan Mason was awesome during that period for San Francisco.
39:25And you think back in your head, I'm like, man, I liked Jordan Mason last year.
39:31I don't think he was really that good. It didn't work out.
39:35He ran for 4.8 yards a carry, like on a terrible team.
39:39If you get this offense fixed up, and I think Kevin O'Connell, I'll still believe in Kevin O'Connell, even though I'm not a huge Kyler Murray guy.
39:48Even if he's not catching passes, but he is the primary runner and the goal line running back where he's being drafted.
39:56To give you running back two numbers would be just outrageous at that point.
40:00We talk about, at the end of drafts, try to target teams that look like they might have a good offense, and
40:08you're not sure who the running back is. So like Washington and Ja'Cory Crossky-Meritt.
40:13That's one of those guys where it's like, you're targeting him because you think he's the lead guy, and you think that Washington could have a good offense.
40:22I think that with Kevin O'Connell and Kyler Murray, Minnesota could have a good offense, and then it's just a question of, well, who is it?
40:31Because right now, ADP-wise, Aaron Jones, I believe, is still going above him.
40:35Double check that, Kyle. They're pretty close. There have been some talk about Claiborne, too, right?
40:41Yes. I will say he's just a deep sleeper to keep an eye on, a very explosive rookie.
40:47He's very small. He was a rookie last year, though, right?
40:51No. This year? Yeah, he's a rookie coming in this year.
40:54Kyle just pulled this up. Mason had more 10-plus yard runs than Travion Henderson last year.
41:00This is – Mason was doing things very quietly because it wasn't frequently turning into – That's kind of his build.
41:07That's kind of – like I like the idea of focusing on the scheme change because I feel like that's what benefited him in San Francisco.
41:16Yeah. I think in certain schemes or situations, he doesn't look that explosive.
41:20He doesn't look that special, but if they're moving things to be more forgiving for him.
41:26Speaking of the build, here's a quote from Kevin O'Connell from this month.
41:30He was talking to the press. He says, you guys could probably even tell just the way he looks.
41:36He's in unbelievable shape right now. I think the things that he thrives at we're emphasizing in some aspects of our different run game schemes.
41:45And he's reportedly down about 15 pounds, which we've talked about, you know, the – I was just going to say – and he's like a big boy.
41:55Yeah. And you don't – he's like, Jordan Mason, I don't – we have him listed at 230.
42:01Yeah. So if he's down to 215 – Get that explosive speed up.
42:05All right. All right. We'll take a break and come back.
42:09I'm going to share my final sleeper with you.
42:12All right. We've got Pat Bryant. We've got Jordan Mason.
42:15And then I'm going to bring up a name that I will not be surprised if he has five receptions or more
42:23in week one of the NFL season. I don't think Mike likes it, but I'm going to go – No, no.
42:30I was going to say the drumbeat of hype is like off the top of my head where I just – okay, what's been going on?
42:39Pat Bryant, Parker Washington, and this guy are like – those are the big three of who have been getting the publicity.
42:46It's Cyrus Allen, rookie wide receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs.
42:50It's time we talked about him more in depth.
42:53Fifth-round pick, a lot of people out there surprised he made it that long.
42:58He was not invited to the combine. Yeah. He is – what's wild about him too is that he had the third
43:05most touchdowns in the FBS last year. This is a player that, like you said, it has been a solid drumbeat throughout the entire preseason.
43:14Patrick Mahomes is healthy and back. Like, Taequann Thornton is out with a hamstring.
43:18Rashi Rice hasn't looked himself. Travis Kelsey is old.
43:22Did Travis Kelsey riled up? Yeah, I did. I did.
43:25With the slowest – oh, I missed that. Yeah, it was a lumbering cut and then he just was – Who was
43:32faster, Rashi Rice or Travis Kelsey right now? Rice.
43:35Yeah, Rice. But Xavier Worthy also hurt on this team.
43:39The Thornton news came out today, like literally before we did the show.
43:43He got carted off of practice. It's a hamstring injury.
43:47Cyrus Allen has been, and this is a quote, undoubtedly Patrick Mahomes' favorite target in the preseason.
43:52Played with the starters. If you go – I watched every route that he ran in the preseason game.
43:59I watched every senior bowl practice. If you go watch the senior bowl practice, which by the way, that was one of
44:06the places where Ladd McConkie stuck out the most to me when he came into the NFL.
44:12You're talking about a player that is extremely versatile.
44:15He played out wide almost exclusively as an underclassman.
44:18Then he played in the slot almost exclusively with Cincinnati last year.
44:22He's a fifth-round pick. The team has talked about – not us.
44:26The team has talked about similarities to Stephon Diggs.
44:30He made plays in the first preseason game, climbed the ladder.
44:33They targeted him frequently. He took an end around, kind of the Andy Reid style, like get him a screen pass and let him run.
44:42It looked really fast. So right now you have the combination of preseason hype with tons of injury and depth concerns at
44:49wide receiver on this team and a player that I think is slowly but surely emerging.
44:55There are great opportunities, and his best ball ADP is something you can pay attention to.
45:00He was undrafted. It's climbed all the way to the 15th round.
45:04They're favored in their first six games of the year.
45:08I think Cyrus Allen is one of those situations where I'm trying my best not to just dismiss a preseason hype candidate
45:15for Patrick Mahomes because other different players with different skills and different opportunities didn't succeed on the same hype train.
45:22That's the big thing is like can I go watch the film and say this player has something or doesn't?
45:29I think he'll especially be very good against zone defenses.
45:32I think those are the routes where like he you know, he talked about like his biggest pet peeve is not being open on every play.
45:41Like this is a player that seems really dedicated to his craft and the fact that the league's best quarterback already has
45:48this level of trust in a rookie is something to pay attention to.
45:53It doesn't mean that it could be like Pat Bryant where you're he goes undrafted, right?
45:58But you're paying such close attention to week one or maybe you've drafted a player that belongs on IR.
46:05You flip him to IR and then you sign Cyrus Allen just to watch what happens in week one of the NFL
46:12season is worthy going to be there. Is Thornton going to be there?
46:17Do those guys even impact the kind of targets that Cyrus Allen is going to receive for the Chiefs?
46:23That's TBD, but I think he's one of those guys we have to say out loud.
46:29We are in it 24-7 all offseason. There are people that have come back to the show.
46:34We had comments on yesterday's show. It was like, oh, you guys just have new screens on the back wall.
46:41Like people are coming back to the party to fantasy right this moment.
46:45And have not heard Cyrus Allen's name ever because it wasn't a combine name.
46:50It wasn't a draft day name. And today's the day they hear the name.
46:55So here are a couple arguments against that I think people are going to make.
47:00Mike has said this around the office all the time.
47:04Every year there's a Kansas City guy. Oh, it's this guy.
47:07It's this guy. Because we have hopes and dreams.
47:10We know who Mahomes is. Yeah. And so you have hopes and dreams.
47:15And Mike says, you know, it never works out.
47:18He's not buying in. And there's also, I just did the tips for this last Saturday on YouTube.
47:24You can check that out. One of those things was talking about if you're not a first-round wide receiver, day two, day
47:31three, you know, those drafted wide receivers don't usually get off to a strong start.
47:36The snap percentages is low. So those are the arguments against them.
47:41I am in on Cyrus Allen. And here's why.
47:44Andy is completely correct that you can't just say because other things didn't work out, it can't work out.
47:50That was when I was super in on Rushy Rice as a rookie.
47:55Yeah. That was the same narrative. Everything I heard was no.
47:58Skymore. There was a bunch of them. Yeah, there were a bunch of them.
48:03I can't even remember them because they all fizzled out and were worthless.
48:07But yeah, Skymore and. Last year, a little bit of Jalen Royals hope.
48:12Yeah. I mean, it's just always those guys. Here's why I'm in on Cyrus Allen.
48:17The snap percentages for later round rookie drafts, wide receivers, is extraordinarily low to start the year.
48:23They don't get on the field. That's why it's a bad pick.
48:27I think he's going to be on the field.
48:30I think he might start week one. That's what I'm saying.
48:34He's been running with the ones exclusively. He was on every snap with Patrick Mahomes.
48:39Granted, it's preseason, so maybe they're just getting him some expectation.
48:42And week one comes out and he doesn't play.
48:45He's 27% of snaps, 46% of snaps. Okay, cut bait and bail immediately if that happens.
48:51But I do think there's a world where week one he is 80% plus snaps and that doesn't happen for these guys.
48:58And the other reason I like him is because he's good.
49:02I love watching his routes. I think he's a really good player.
49:06I really do. I mean, his crispness, his sharpness of his routes is like, I mean, I think it's going to match up well for this team.
49:15I'm optimistic. Yeah. So here's average for day three wide receivers, snap counts for weeks one through six, 24% snaps.
49:22That is a bad bet. You don't get the opportunity.
49:26I wanted to talk about Caleb Douglas. You know, he's another rookie wide receiver.
49:30The later round rookie wide receivers, they do not usually work to draft them.
49:35Pick them up off of waiver wires. Get that second half of the year.
49:40I make an exception here solely because I think he's just been exclusively running with the ones.
49:46So please don't get hurt before we get to see.
49:49That is the message, Cyrus. You've already linked off once or twice in practice.
49:54Don't get hurt. Before we get to find out if we're wrong, please.
49:58Pretty please. Injuries every day. By the way, we have 10 tips and tricks coming up tomorrow and a huge announcement on tomorrow's show.
50:06Yes, we do. By the way, Tyreek Hill, fifth round pick.
50:10So, I mean, it's pretty much set. Pukinakua, fifth round pick.
50:14Fifth round pick. Tyreek Hill, 5'10", 191. Cyrus Hill, 5'11", 180.
50:18Cyrus Hill? Cypress Hill? Is that his nickname? Cypress Hill?
50:21We got Fred Durst in Cypress Hill. This rookie class is going to get the band together.
50:27Oh, my gosh. I can do them, too. Yeah, we got 10 tips and tricks.
50:32A huge announcement on tomorrow's show. You don't want to miss it.
50:36Trust me. It's something you've been asking for for a while.
50:40On Thursday, we'll get into the bust and value picks.
50:43On Friday, we'll do Mock Draft Mayhem as well.
50:46I do have one thing I wanted to touch on.
50:50Yesterday's show was absolutely crazy. What did he say?
50:53Yes, thank you. Yesterday's show was nuts. But at the end of the show, Jason and I were talking about Ramondre, and
51:00we were going back with Ramondre and Travion, and it got thick.
51:04I don't even want to tell you what happened after the show.
51:08People ask us all the time. Fisty cuffs. Yeah, we fought.
51:12We fought in the street. We didn't, or you'd see.
51:15He'd be ruined. I'd be dead. It was body shots only.
51:19Right. That's, yeah. No. For the show, we can't go face.
51:23It's a Hollywood gentleman's agreement. We'd both butterfly stretch before we fought, by the way.
51:28Of course. And our groins? No, fine. Feeling good.
51:31So we had that whole discussion. And by the way, people ask us all the time.
51:36It's one of the questions they ask in the Discord.
51:40They're like, you know, you guys have been doing this for 12, this is, I think, our 12th, 13th season.
51:47And we've worked together for 20 years now. Well, yeah.
51:50And so they're like, do you fight? Do you guys argue?
51:54What's your biggest disagreements? And it's been, it's been like a couple of football things before, right?
52:00Which is, which is amazing. I looked this up this morning, Jason.
52:04Okay. I have known you for 28 years. 28 years.
52:07I met Jason as a freshman in high school.
52:10I met Andy as a senior in high school.
52:13Yeah. In the same class. But I want to say something though.
52:17Um, basically I think one of the reasons we haven't fought for all those years is because Jason is a tremendously gracious, forgiving person.
52:25And if he wasn't, maybe we would have fought more because I don't think I'm the one that probably stopped us from fighting.
52:33So I want to just say that. And I want to say that sometimes when I host the show, I miss the mark a little bit.
52:42Yesterday was one of those days. So I just wanted to apologize to Jason for letting disagreement become a little bit disrespectful.
52:50On behalf of Jason. I know. I know. I don't.
52:53I know. I don't accept the apology. Jason can turtle shirt, but I don't want it.
52:58My job as a host, like I really want to do a good job of letting people breathe and say something.
53:06And as opposed to like disrespecting somebody. So I feel like I kind of did that yesterday.
53:11So I just wanted to apologize. Jake, uh, Jake just, uh, he's, he's just saying just make out already.
53:18So if you're in, we can wrap this show up.
53:21Let me, let me, let me wrap this show up.
53:25I was going to say that just proves that Jason's very passionate about his Travion Henderson.
53:30It does. If he's willing to, or I like Ramondre that much.
53:34All right. See y'all. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the fantasy footballers podcast.
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