0:00to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
0:05Welcome in! That was upsetting to my soul. I find that pretty offensive.
0:09Guys, I mean, was that spot on? Deucers are nodding.
0:13Andy nailed it. The end of that was troubling to me.
0:16Is that how you hear my voice? That's how you hear my voice.
0:20Welcome in! Look, your voice is still struggling. We couldn't have week one opening without him.
0:26Especially after our league record draft, all the shouting and screaming last night.
0:30I'm all for substitutionary welcomes and we can make other people rotate through until I get back to full strength.
0:37But, I'm here. And we had our league of record draft last night.
0:41That did not help the vocal recovery, I would say.
0:44It did help the Mike celebratory. Oh man. Mike was the super duper champ last year.
0:50Yes. And so he won in our dynasty and our league of record and he has enjoyed that very much.
0:56And so the champ often does something special at the draft.
1:00And Mike, when I showed up, there were two banners bigger than I knew they could make that had been hung from the walls.
1:08One of them very inappropriately hung. He's removed things from the wall to get these to fit.
1:13I mean, they are gigantic super banners. Which, okay, step one.
1:17Complete. I expected a super banner. Then, I rolled up and there were some hints that he had brought in a bartender.
1:24And so there was a bartender with a bar.
1:27He had hung his own banner from that. And then he had his own custom cocktail.
1:33Yes. Which was actually quite delicious. Very refreshing. And Al had so many he drafted all wide receivers the whole night long.
1:40And so it was part of my, like, I didn't really have picks.
1:44Right. So it was part of my strategy was get everyone to make mistakes.
1:49Get people off of their game. Let the players drop to me.
1:53They didn't drop to me. No, no, they didn't.
1:56But I mean, your team's all right. But so then we get going and like, we're all set up and we're getting ready for the draft.
2:04And then the icing on the cake was in roles, two fine gentlemen, part of a jazz duo.
2:10Yes. So we had live jazz right next to Mike's drafting.
2:14We did not write bass and guitar, which was dude.
2:17It was unbelievable. Honestly, when they showed up, I felt bad for them.
2:22I was like, these guys don't want to be here in this room of fantasy football nerds doing a draft.
2:28And they're like, why are we here? Why are you paying us to do live jazz music here?
2:34But then it was awesome. They loved it. And every time they stopped to take a break or something, it was like,
2:41this is this is not as good as when they were playing.
2:45No. And I will say, on the other hand, I think the bartender had the time of his life.
2:52He is normally dealing with mother in laws at weddings and ends up at the league of record draft.
2:58And it was a good time. So that's what we did last night.
3:02And now, mercifully, a new season begins. Not a not a year of Mike.
3:07Right now. It's over. That's right. Yeah, it's over.
3:10And we're covering the years a game. His dynasty team is still insane.
3:14On this episode. Yeah, Mike's dynasty team. If it doesn't win five straight from here on out, he'll be bummed.
3:21But you were saying we're going to cover an actual game today.
3:25We have football starting. Listen to this tomorrow. Oh, but tomorrow is Wednesday.
3:29That is, in fact, what the NFL is willing to do.
3:33Any day. All the time. I'll forgive it on week one.
3:36Yeah, I'm fine. Week one. I'll forgive it. But don't worry, there's a Thursday game.
3:41Yeah, no, that's great. It's Thursday football. And then also Sunday and Monday.
3:45And it's going to be great. And we're finally here.
3:49And 99% of you have drafted your teams. There are still megalo bowl drafts taking place.
3:54I believe Papa Josh, you're back there. Did we add a I don't want to speak out of turn.
4:00Yes. We have a noon Wednesday draft. Correct. So we have our final megalo bowl drafts.
4:06And apologies for those that drafted in the very first spot.
4:09There was a bump with the sleeper system. We had to redraft a couple of leagues and that's never happened before.
4:16But apologies on that. Um, drafts have been happening.
4:19If you want to get in the megalo bowl, it is official.
4:23We have the most people that have ever been in the megalo bowl.
4:27Oh, baby. This year. And you can go to megalo bowl.com.
4:31It is our super league 22 to 25,000 range right now.
4:35I'm not sure what the exact number is. I know we passed the record, but there's drafts today.
4:41Yes, there's a draft at 8 p.m. Eastern tonight.
4:44So if you want to draft tonight, you can still get in.
4:48And there's another draft tomorrow. Uh, that were the games at noon or noon.
4:52Uh, I believe it's 1 30 p.m. Eastern. Yeah.
4:55Yeah. Let's track this down. There was a lot of different.
4:59I thought it was noon. No, noon central. It is not.
5:03I mean, it's close. It's noon 30 central noon 30.
5:06One third. I'm looking right now. I'm, I'll tell you right now.
5:10I'm in that queue. So that's where I'm going to be draft times.
5:14Always display in your local time zone. Yeah. Our UK friends, whatever draft time shows up is your local draft.
5:21It'll show it right there. So I'm looking at 10 30 a.m.
5:25Tomorrow for our time is when I will be drafting.
5:28So hopefully everybody's drafts went really well this past weekend.
5:31About 50% of, uh, I think we had about 50% of the people drafted had, had a big draft this weekend.
5:38Uh, so it's fun. It's time to go. We got to, we got to finally see how players perform.
5:45We got tons of stuff on today's show. We got the waiver wire looking at undrafted gyms guys that you can pick
5:52up, maybe see what happens in week one. I think that's the biggest.
5:56I'm going to need these names. Post draft tip.
5:59Mike does. Mike is, uh, his team is thin.
6:02Yeah. His team is strong, but thin as they would say stars and scrubs.
6:07Yes. So we'll talk waiver wire undrafted gyms today.
6:10We will preview the Wednesday night football game. If we have time, we'll get in some mailbag.
6:15We got news to cover. We got a lot going on.
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7:03And those are all for free available at the fantasy footballers.com as well.
7:07So quick question of the day is one of my favorite of all time because it's just true.
7:13And so this, this quick question of the day is amazing.
7:17It is who is a player that you might've been on the fence about, but now that you drafted him and I'm
7:24going to say last night in our draft, you're behind him 100%.
7:28Right. You really see the arguments for this player now.
7:32And, um, I mean, I could tell you one, I could tell you the most truthful one because it is exactly what
7:39you're saying where I was really on the fence until on the clock, me and my co-manager, we talked ourselves into the upside.
7:47And since that time I was like, you've now confirmed it.
7:50I've confirmed it. We were in an, we're in another draft right now.
7:54And I took him again. Oh yeah. Um, it's, it's, it's Bucky Irving.
7:59Amazing. Bucky Irving is so good guys. I am sure.
8:0224 years old. He's still young. He was dealing with a shoulder injury.
8:06That injury has passed. It's wheels up, baby. He's in flight.
8:10Also. I drafted Blake Corum. He is going to be a sensational superstar.
8:14Blake Corum one is awesome. I mean, to be fair, I have, I have not changed on Blake Corum.
8:21No, but you drafting him as comedic. I want, I mean, I went into that draft saying, I have to leave this draft with Blake Corum.
8:29He's one of the best picks in fantasy. That's like, I know I am Mr.
8:34Kyron Williams. I still am. I think Kyron is going to be a top 12 running back.
8:40He misses Blake Corum. Hey, you, you available? Blake.
8:43Uh, no, I love Blake Corum. He's an excellent back.
8:46Uh, should be, you know, right now because he's on your team, would you say you're kind of rooting for like Blake
8:53Corum to take over the backfield and like dominate?
8:56Um, because he's on my team. Yes. Yeah. I don't have Kyron.
9:00I have Blake. So come on. Um, I hope I'm wrong about Kyron.
9:05My, my, my player in this category of on the fence about, but once I drafted him, I'm a hundred percent about
9:12was Woody marks, Woody marks who I got so late in this draft.
9:16I wanted to add a little running back depth and I was trying to talk myself into who was available.
9:23And you know what? I realized right after I drafted Woody marks that those 50, 50 timeshare conversations in Houston really rung true to me.
9:31You know what I mean? They really seemed authentic and real.
9:35And I, you know, old busted David, my opportunity, just pretty much on the edge of retirement trying to tell you, Woody marks.
9:42I mean, this guy is explosive and who says the young guy can't take over the backfield.
9:48So, so obviously, um, change of heart there right about the eighth round.
9:52And, uh, it wasn't a change of heart, but Malik Willis, I just have gone from being like, this is, this is
9:59a good end of draft pick as like a QB two, which he, that's what he is for me too.
10:06I mean, the guy's just oozing with top five upside clearly.
10:10I mean, with the amount that the amount that he's going to run and where's what it look, Chris Bell, it's totally going to work.
10:18He's his ACL is very fine. Um, and special shout out speaking my language, Mike, a special shout out here because Kyle is in the building.
10:27And if you listen to the fancy MVP show, Kyle had some strong words for this character who is now on our team, George Halani.
10:35Come on down. You're a Halani bro. Oh man.
10:38We're fully in. We're the guy. Unbelievable. Unquestioned goal line running back for the Seattle Seahawks.
10:43I mean, if you want to know where Mike was draft pick wise yesterday, just speak George Halani's name.
10:49That's about where, uh, you were drafting players. You might have to flex at that point.
10:55Yeah. I will. Come on. Who out there? How many drafts are going on where Halani is not being drafted?
11:01Lots. I think, I think everyone. No, I think everyone.
11:05Well, not everyone. Not as I drafted him. That's true.
11:08Cause he's eight touchdowns coming in. I'm just, Al, was there anybody in this category for you?
11:13I know I'm putting you on the spot, but I know you, you have a lot of white outs and things like that.
11:21Um, was there anybody that you drafted that you were like on the fence about, but now are convinced might perform for your team?
11:29No, I knew they'd all be great. Okay. All right.
11:32We'll just go right into the news. News and notes from around the league.
11:37In the, uh, the least exciting announcement of all time.
11:40The Falcons announced to a tongue of Iloa will start in week one against their time.
11:46Yeah. Uh, one week before kickoff and they know who their starter is.
11:50I think this is a pinnocks not ready to go yet, or at least that's how it's being approached because that gives
11:57them, uh, the ability to say, you were always going to be the starter I took to a tongue of Iloa in a draft.
12:05It was, you don't have some things you don't have to say.
12:09It was an eight. Yeah. That was a game final pick of the draft.
12:14He was in my queue. He was the last quarterback that anyone could take.
12:18That wasn't a full backup. It was crazy. Shane Steichen.
12:22This is good news that Alec Pierce is expected to play in week one against the Ravens.
12:27Come on. All good news. We want all good news this week.
12:31Roma Dunze was not seen practicing. Oh, didn't you listen to Mike a second ago?
12:36Yeah. We want all good news. Just the good stuff.
12:39No, I didn't. See, it's what you sound like.
12:42Um, Roma Dunze not practicing, but Kyle Manunga is back at practice.
12:46DeAndre Swift back at practice. Yes. Jonathan Brooks worked to the side at practice again on Monday.
12:52Oh, man. General Soreness. Oh, General. Salute to you.
12:55Let me say this. I realized something about- He's keeping Brooks on the sideline.
13:00I want to be in on Jonathan Brooks, but let me tell you, I am a weak-willed individual when it comes to that.
13:07I realize that if I see one, like one step on a clip from him at practice that doesn't look right, I
13:14all of a sudden want to be so out and like Chuba for life.
13:19Like I am terrified of Jonathan Brooks. But it could work.
13:23But it might not work. Yeah. What team does he play for, Jay?
13:27Uh, he plays for the Dead Ringers, Andy. Oh, okay.
13:30Yeah. Cause I drafted him and he's going to be so great.
13:34Yeah. I'm in. Uh, Cardinals head coach Michael Forrest said he's optimistic.
13:38Jeremiah Love will be able to play on Sunday against the Chargers.
13:42You'd love to see that. We would. Um, I don't like that verbiage for week one.
13:48I mean- What, what will happen? I just realized this.
13:51I mean, it doesn't seem possible, but what will happen if when we come in on Monday next week, the Chargers who
13:58are supposed to be great lose to the Arizona Cardinals this weekend, what would happen to your brains?
14:04That's just- Because the Chargers are the perfect team that could, like of any team that would, if they lost to the
14:11Cardinals, you'd be like, of course it's the Chargers.
14:14Yeah. I mean, what would happen would be a complete deflation of everything you believe in for the Chargers.
14:21And maybe life. Yeah. I mean, it's all fun and games, but it can't happen.
14:26And that also means the Arizona Cardinals will be one game out of drafting Arch or Dante.
14:31Kyle said that the Chargers are the number one survivor pool pick right now for week one.
14:37Oh, don't do that. Uh-oh. And he says he can't click it out of fear.
14:42The Chargers just completely disintegrating 92% of survivor pools in week one.
14:46I mean, do we want the comedy? Don't we just want to see the world burn?
14:51Sometimes. And I can see how the Cardinals can score on the Chargers.
14:55I just cannot see how the Cardinals can stop the Chargers offense ever.
15:00There's no defense there. Is that game in? It's in LA, right?
15:04It's in LA. Oh, boy. Just saying. It'd be funny.
15:07I assume it's the highest spread of the week.
15:10It's at 10 and a half. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
15:13Take me over. Travion Henderson did not practice again Sunday or Monday.
15:17He has not practiced since suffering an ankle injury on August 24th.
15:21The bailout continues for Jason. New England versus Seattle tomorrow.
15:24We're previewing that game. It doesn't seem like Travion is going to be out there.
15:29No. No, certainly not. Speaking on Pat McAfee's show.
15:32I will say, I'm sorry. We're covering the game.
15:35We're covering the game. Even if he plays, I don't think you can start him.
15:40Adam Schefter said there's a real possibility that Pukunukua avoids any discipline this season.
15:45Who said that? Shm-Adam Schmefter. Thank you. See, you know what stinks is his last name, Mike?
15:50Normally when you try to repronounce, it's like Schmeich Schmeich.
15:54Like certain names don't rhyme well. Fine. You need to come up with a different name for them.
15:59I'll lift the embargo. Are you giving it back?
16:02I'll lift the embargo. You got over it? No.
16:05Okay. But I will lift the embargo. What if I call him Adam Pellicero?
16:10No. Pukunukua might avoid discipline. It is still in the back of everyone's mind that drafts him that he could be, something could happen.
16:18His whole situation is going to be one of the most interesting ones to watch for the next few years.
16:25How do you look at Pukunukua in a dynasty league?
16:28Because he could be the single best dynasty asset.
16:31There's a world where that is, he's top three or not.
16:34I, dynasty wise, I definitely think he's still top five.
16:38I know Andy, you and I disagree on the contract.
16:41Like, I think he'll be a Ram long term.
16:44But let's say you're right. Oh, I don't think he won't.
16:48I just think that there's a chance. Yeah, there's a chance that they don't extend him that, you know, I mean, currently they haven't given him a contract.
16:57I think they're waiting to see if he's back on track.
17:01But let's say he, the Rams are out and he hits the open market.
17:05Like, he's going to get the biggest contract of all time from some wide receiver needy team because he's a great young wide receiver.
17:13So I don't worry about him outside of just being a knucklehead.
17:17And I mean, that's a reason, though. I mean, Rashi Rice, I think, you know, one or two incidents removed is a different place in dynasty.
17:26I just, it makes me more gimmicky than Puka.
17:29Like, oh, yeah, Puka can translate to other teams.
17:32He's probably in the best spot he could ever be in, though.
17:36I mean, oh, yeah, yeah, McVay and Stafford. Josh Jacobs first court hearing has been moved up from November 17th to September 10th.
17:43That's this is a big deal. Convenient. Yeah. One of the things that's really frustrating is that people who respond to what
17:51we say on the show act like time isn't an element of what happens.
17:55And the fact that, like, we said some things about the November 17th date, which had implications on how long he would be out.
18:03Now, if they move the date up two months, that has implications on what will happen.
18:08And so I no longer stand by the same comments because the data has changed.
18:13Yeah. If things change and this is a brand new change, it matters.
18:18And the new impact is that it appears at first glance.
18:21And we don't know if this is going to go to trial, if it's going to be, you know, plead out.
18:28We don't know the future. But this does imply that because they moved it up now that he's on the exempt list
18:36and he can't play football, they're trying to get the process completed quick enough so that his suspension can go soon and
18:43he can get back to football this season. As of this moment, my expectation is that the second half of the season,
18:50you're probably going to have Jacobs back on the field.
18:53We don't know. Yeah. I mean, just do the math.
18:57You're going to miss week one. You're going to have this hearing.
19:01If they reach a settlement soon thereafter, add six weeks, week eight, nine, ten.
19:05Maybe that's when you're seeing him back on the field.
19:09And there has been precedent in the past for games on the commissioner exempt list that are missed, essentially being credited towards.
19:16That's not a guarantee that it would. But the six games, let's say there's two weeks that he's already missed that, you
19:23know, it could just be the first six weeks.
19:26It could be six weeks after that. And there is a world where Marshawn Lloyd shows some stuff and that the distribution
19:33of work changes when he returns and things like that.
19:37That is a, I think if you took Lloyd, I think that's a good takeaway of, like when you take Lloyd, you're betting.
19:44Because is Marshawn Lloyd good in the NFL? We have no idea.
19:48We like the role. And the upside is massive if he is good.
19:53If he is, in fact, good over these next handful of games, I would imagine, I think Jacobs misses six at least because of the allegations.
20:01If Lloyd is good in those six weeks, he will be a part of the team moving forward.
20:07Josh Jacobs won't come back and just completely dominate the running back room.
20:11Lloyd will be involved. Malik Neighbors. ESPN says it looks like he's good to go for Sunday night.
20:17That's what we're talking about. The team released the very expensive Darius Slayton, who was going to be owed $13 million.
20:24Dude. Which is a good sign for neighbors and a good sign for Malachi Fields and a good sign for Isaiah Likely.
20:32They hate him. They hate him. How, that's, the week that the season is starting, you're like, ooh, time to save some cash.
20:39Like, that is so dirty to this player. Like, if you had caught him when you, you wanted to get rid of
20:46him forever ago, let him go find a different team.
20:50I mean, I, I don't know why they hate him.
20:53Because he, you can't. This has to be an, this has to be like a personal thing that they just don't like him.
21:01They also paid him a three-year, $36 million extension.
21:04They had to. Yeah, they've always been backed into having to rely on Slayton, who has been fine.
21:10He's the longest tenured New York giant. Was. Was.
21:13Because the week before the season, they sent him packing.
21:16Jameis Winston, two-year extension. So, if Jackson Dart keeps running like a chicken with his head cut off, Winston is there to help.
21:23And that is a good thing. Yeah, we love it.
21:27Brees Hall trending towards playing week one with the groin injury.
21:30That's good. That'd be a really nice thing to be able to do, his play, if you just drafted him.
21:37And then, what do we have? We have Tyler Smith, left guard for the Cowboys.
21:42Thumb surgery, sideline, four to six weeks. Weekends that offensive line.
21:46Let's take a break. We'll jump into some undrafted gyms.
21:49The Waiver Wire, presented by T-Mobile. All right, it is the Waiver Wire, the first time and only time we'll be doing this segment before the season begins.
21:58Because we always want to talk about some post-draft options on the waivers.
22:02Sometimes you wake up, and you look at your draft, and you go, Hmm.
22:07Hmm. I don't know if I like that guy on the end of my bench there.
22:12Maybe there's a different, better option. So, we want to look at some players that you should pay attention to.
22:19Maybe it means picking them up now. Maybe it means keeping an eye on them.
22:24Right. There's a lot of different ways to go about it.
22:28We'll obviously have Waiver Wire segments each and every Tuesday during the season to talk through the best pickups of the week.
22:35And so, you know, I thought one interesting thing, like I was really working through my headspace, and maybe you guys can help by consulting for me.
22:44I'm in the draft. I have a pretty good team.
22:47My team's all right. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody online was like, So, you play in a four-team league?
22:53No, it's a 12-team. Yeah, but it's a keeper, and you were set up from last year.
22:58Yeah. So, I am thinking to myself, how much am I truly going to value the insurance backs for the players that
23:06I have on this roster that right now looks really good, but we've done all the numbers.
23:11Injuries are, you know, 24% of running backs. Top 24 running backs make it through 17 weeks.
23:17You're going to have injuries. But I also know it just sucks to have an insurance back on your roster in week one.
23:24It doesn't suck in week five, six, seven, even later on, maybe late end of season.
23:30It just sucks in the beginning because I want to be pulling different players off of the waiver wire.
23:36If I draft an insurance back, I feel like I've got to hold them for an injury, and then I get impatient,
23:43and I'd rather be playing around with rookies and things like that.
23:47So, you know, I think it depends on who the insurance back is.
23:52In the situation of guys like Blake Corum, Jonathan Brooks, and Chris Rodriguez-Crod, you still have the opportunity where week one you
23:59learn something and that they are involved and that they are a startable, flexible asset that still has the insurance upside of going higher.
24:07There's others that, you know, are just like Kyle Monungay would just be – he's not going to usurp the number one
24:14role on the team or be so involved. I like Swift, but I like Monungay as a flex with benefit player.
24:21I don't think he's just a pure insurance running back.
24:24Yeah, I think Corum, Brooks, Monungay, Crod for sure, possibly Algier based on workload for love.
24:30Yeah, at least the first few weeks. All those guys should get weekly touches no matter what.
24:35Right. I agree with that. Not the, like, you know, pure backup situation.
24:40Gainwell's probably in that category too. No, Bucky. It's all Bucky now.
24:43Oh, my gosh. Don't you do it to me again, kiddin'.
24:47I'm not sure if we check the tape, and Kyle probably has some, hey, I'm doing it every minute.
24:53I'm not sure if we check the tape if you had said Bucky Irving's name more than three times in the last year.
25:01And there he was on your team. Yeah. You laid that one close to the vest.
25:06Yeah. Yeah, I couldn't let people know. Even Jason didn't know how much he loved Bucky Irving.
25:12I was hiding it from myself until he was the last of a tear, and I had to take him and went, he's going to be great.
25:21That is, it's so fantasy football. When that name popped up, I was like, what?
25:26Yeah, me too. And then followed by Blake Corum.
25:29Who is this guy? A desperate man on draft day.
25:32A man who is inventing his strategy. Jason got thrown off from the jump yesterday.
25:37This was a real issue for us. So our team, we are not good.
25:42Yeah, I mean, so we went all in last year to go after the championship.
25:47At the time, it looked like it was Mike and I.
25:50Which all in in the League of Records for the Newisters is you trade your future picks.
25:56And you move them down. Yeah. So I had basically no picks coming into this year because of last year.
26:02Then I lost my high equity pick, my my gamble of Jonathan Taylor in the lottery.
26:08That stunk. And then my pick spot. There's six studs in this draft, and I got the seventh pick.
26:14So I went into this year going like I am playing for next year.
26:19I traded CeeDee Lamb for Malik Neighbors when it looked like he wasn't going to play the beginning of this year because I figure 2027.
26:27So I'm like going for 2027. Me and my co-manager, we are setting this up, trying to do what Andy did this
26:34year and how he arrived at this, you know, great super team.
26:38And then right at the draft, we're like, okay, do we want to vote on anything?
26:43And the league changes the rules on the number one pick to make it a lot like a playoff system for the bottom four teams.
26:52And you got to win to get the best picks.
26:55And look, we're trying to prevent what you're doing.
26:58Absolutely. I would vote for this any other year.
27:01It's a good thing for a league. But I came in already like I'm already in this strategy.
27:07It's not fair. So I was like, come on, man.
27:10Ten minutes before the draft, you're changing this? I've been working this strat for months.
27:15Jason spent the rest of the four hours during the draft restraining himself from beating up the co-manager that suggested it.
27:22Co-manager bringing things to votes. Also, I can tell you a lot about the week 15 schedule.
27:28I got to prep. I got to win that week.
27:31That is amazing. What about some? So when you look at those guys, those are all, I think, high-end, insurance-backed, standalone value.
27:38Maybe the Giants are in the picture there with Scadaboo, whether it's Najee or Tracy at some point.
27:44Now, what I had a problem with was just deciding on like, let me just give you my scenario.
27:51I have Kenneth Walker, who is not always healthy.
27:54So Emmitt Johnson to me, I think that was one where like, because he's a rookie, because he's young, I wanted to take him.
28:02And you loved his tape. And I loved his tape.
28:05And he's obviously earned that backup role. So to me, it's like that one, I think I wouldn't even feel bad having on my team.
28:13The other one was Devon Achan. And, you know, Ollie Gordon is who I preferred in that situation because, in my opinion, of Achan leaves.
28:21You know how sometimes the depth chart doesn't reflect what happens when a player goes out, a different back ends up taking over.
28:29Like Keaton Mitchell's the two. But Kamani Vidal would have a tremendous amount more value probably if Hampton's down.
28:35And like Denver, Jonah Coleman, if J.K. Dobbins, yes, if, we're going to hold on to if for J.K.
28:42Dobbins, if he misses time, I think Jonah Coleman moves into far more touches than R.J.
28:47Harvey. Right. And so right now, Jalen Wright is the running back two on the depth chart.
28:52Ollie Gordon is the three. But to me, Ollie Gordon's the more talented back.
28:57So I went there, but I know I'm just going to release this dude.
29:02Yeah. I'm just going to release him tomorrow morning.
29:05Because that one, like when you have, you know, like a Tank Bigsby who's looked fantastic for Philadelphia on his touches, a
29:12team as bad as we're projecting Miami to be.
29:15Sure. Yeah. We're leaving the window open. Maybe they surprise us.
29:19They're going, they're not going to be a good team.
29:22And if the super talented running back who's getting all the work misses time, I don't really like I'm.
29:28And Jalen Wright or Ollie Gordon, I don't think either one will be, you know, going out there being a top 10 running back.
29:36Like we talk about, you're like the way on the waiver wire, you know, so and so season ending injury.
29:43You're like, this is a full fab dump for this player.
29:46The Miami situation, if you announced it right now that HN is going to miss the season, I'm going to try and
29:54put one of the Miami guys on my roster.
29:57But I'm not like, I'm not going to dump my full fab to go get them.
30:02So in terms of current roster percentages, some names to pay attention to on the high end insurance backs.
30:08Brian Robinson Jr. in Atlanta, who should get goal line from the jump, but would obviously be higher upside.
30:14Tank Bigsby. Malik Davis seems to be the running back to in Dallas.
30:19Oh, he definitely is. And then Mike Washington, if he's out there, you know, we already have like with Jeremiah 11, Jinty to start the year.
30:27You have ankle injuries that are always like, could they re-injure the ankle?
30:32Yes. And then you'd have extended starting opportunities for Algier and extended starting opportunities for Mike Washington potentially.
30:38Right. Oh, yeah. And then Woody Marks. Woody Marks is at 59 percent.
30:42The team, I know we can believe or not believe, but the team has said it'll be 50-50.
30:48My draft says there'll be 100 Marks, zero Monty.
30:51Woody Marks looked, I mean, it's preseason, but Woody Marks looked better to me this year.
30:56And look, it's crazy. Players get better. They actually can improve going into year two.
31:01I thought he looked solid and we'll get more work from David Montgomery.
31:05I think that it's like I think it's more of a 60-40, maybe 65, but 60-40 where there's certain league formats where Woody Marks can start for you.
31:15Talk to me about wide receiver options that you look at as undrafted gyms right now.
31:20And we can talk about whether they were drafted in our league at all.
31:25Yeah, to me, the rookies we always love taking a shot on.
31:28We know that the data says that they get off to slow starts if they're not a high-end first-round NFL draft pick.
31:36So, you know, if you're taking a shot on Jacoby Lane who's popped in preseason or Malachi Fields who looks like he's the number two.
31:44And now that they released Aria Slayton, that's probably great news for Malachi Fields in New York to get on the field.
31:51You've got Chris Bell for the Miami Dolphins who was a first-round talent, but then he had the injury who's healthy.
31:58But my assumption is that all of these wide receivers will not play enough snaps in week one to be really fire.
32:06Those are all guys I'd want to have in week one to see if something happens, though.
32:11Yeah. Because they have a pathway to huge opportunities.
32:14Yeah, I would throw Caleb Douglas there as well.
32:17Chris Bell slash Caleb Douglas, two rookie wide receivers for the Dolphins.
32:21I think Caleb Douglas has the opportunity to get off to a faster start because I expect him to play 75-plus percent of the snaps from week one.
32:30So Malachi Fields and Caleb Douglas, those would be the two that I think you'll be able to see something week one, whereas the others I'm not confident.
32:40Even I think Chris Bell's more talented. Jacoby Lane has looked awesome.
32:44I'm just not positive they're going to be on the field week one enough to really make a decision as to whether you keep holding them or not.
32:53I agree. Malachi Fields, we were like just a couple picks away, Kyle and I, when the news broke.
32:59So based off of our roster, it was like, okay, we've got to take a chance on Malachi Fields.
33:05I haven't seen any reporting about this. So this is just like trying to think about the situation.
33:11Odell Beckham did make the team. Just like, and the reports of him, they've, he's, of course, he's not young Odell Beckham,
33:19but Malachi Fields is, he was a third round pick.
33:22Am I right, Kyle? That is correct. He was, so.
33:25That's a day two pick, Mike. Remember? Oh, yes.
33:28Round three. Day two. He was a day two pick.
33:31But just saying of, with the release of Slayton, it wouldn't shock me to see OBJ as a full-time starter for the Giants.
33:39Did Mooney make the roster? Yeah, no one cares.
33:42I'm just asking. Veterans with opportunities, Dontavian Wicks, I drafted him yesterday.
33:46Yeah, I did not like that you took him.
33:49I would much rather have Dontavian Wicks than all of those rookies we just mentioned.
33:54Keenan Allen, who did get drafted. I chose Wicks over Allen at that point in the draft.
34:00Yeah, we chose Allen over Wicks. Tight ends that I'm watching in week one.
34:04Terrence Ferguson. Yes. Keep an eye on how they use three tight ends in the L.A.
34:09That's a Thursday game, I believe, so we'll get to watch that in prime time.
34:14Yeah, I think Terrence Ferguson and Greg Dulcich are the perfect stashes because week one, you're going to know what is their involvement in this offense.
34:23And it's either more than likely, it's not involved enough, and you just punt them on an important week one waiver wire.
34:30Or they're like, okay, these guys are running tons of routes and earning targets.
34:35Those are my favorite. Because like, Jawan Johnson. I like Jawan Johnson a lot.
34:40I think if I need to play a player, he shouldn't be on waivers.
34:44He's probably as good as whoever else was picked in the last round.
34:49But if I'm stashing a guy that I'm not playing, it would be the other two higher upside options.
34:55If you want me to tell you a player that nobody has, nobody will roster even if I talk about him, and
35:02could end up with just a wild week one that blows your mind, it is the tight end one for the Chargers.
35:09It is Charlie Kohler. I was just typing. It's only Kohler to Jason.
35:14It's Kohler to the world. Charlie Kohler is the number one tight end for the Chargers.
35:19If you look at the competition, you're like, oh, they got a bunch of tight ends.
35:24Don't think of it that way. Think of it as they decided to add a veteran declining David Njoku, who's not number one on the depth chart.
35:33And then Arande Gadsden has had the worst offseason possible.
35:36They don't like him as much as fancy football nerds.
35:40No, they don't. And so literally, Charlie Kohler, free agent contract, tight end one, offense we like, an offensive coordinator that will utilize him.
35:48Yeah, shout out Jonu Smith. Yeah, I just think.
35:51Out of nowhere. I just think it could be a completely out of nowhere week one for Charlie Kohler.
35:57I agree. Where everybody's like. I agree. The next time we do the waiver show, we're like, guys, Charlie Kohler, what are we thinking?
36:05Yeah, he's a, I mean, he was in that category of a stash where it's just, okay, we'll punt him in week
36:12one, or he will surprise and be there. And you might look at his career, he's going into year five and be
36:19like, he's had 30 catches in five years. He's a blocking, he is a, he is a blocking tight end.
36:26And he is. But he is also very capable.
36:29If you go back and look at his Iowa State college, I mean, he's.
36:34Totally equipped to catch the ball. 700 passing yards, 756 receiving yards.
36:38He passed him? Receiving yards. He's a quarterback? But like three seasons of massive college production as a receiver.
36:44So he's got the chops. And then if you want to like a week one to keep an eye on the number
36:51one quarterback to throw on the bottom of your bench as a QB two to see if you get catch lightning in a bottle is Malik Willis.
37:00Yes. Plays Las Vegas. Totally worth seeing what that offense, what he can do.
37:05I may have placed a financial wager, which I do almost never.
37:09I mean, you guys know this. I'm never, I probably placed two or three bets a year.
37:14On Malik Willis is week one yardage. Well, because it is at one.
37:19I mean, I think in some books it's at 168.
37:22Which would be, I think the second lowest like ever for a starting quarterback in week one.
37:28Well, it's because of that Raiders defense, man. I mean, I find, I find that to be like, I'm just sharing that.
37:35I'm not a, I'm not a bet, bet expert, a betspert, whatever you want to call it.
37:40That is just one to me that I'm like my convictions on Malik Willis, that matchup.
37:46I think he's going to throw the ball a ton.
37:49I don't know. I don't know. I'm for it.
37:52It wasn't, like I didn't just draft Malik Willis at the end and now I'm like, oh, it's going to be great.
37:59Like Kyle can attest. My game plan going into this was I really, really want to draft Malik Willis and.
38:06To see what happens. Yeah. Cause if. Which Kyler fits that as well.
38:10I hate to say it, but like week one, just see what happens with Kyler because.
38:15Yes, he does. Cause maybe something goes right. You could, but Malik, Malik is going to run more than Kyler.
38:22I agree. And he's younger. So it's just, that's why I prefer that side.
38:27The truth is if, if Willis is competent, like if Willis is thrown for 200 yards a game, cause he's going to
38:34be running for like 40 yards, he's going, he's not going to have a choice with when he looks out and his
38:41receiver core is just absolutely seat belted out there.
38:44He's going to run. Yeah. I would also throw Tyler Shuck into that.
38:49Oh yeah. He has gone from the highest upside.
38:52I'm so excited. We need to get him at the end of every draft to, to Jordan Tyson got injured.
38:58And now it's like, well, Shuck can't do it.
39:01Shuck can't be. He still got, he was doing it without Tyson last year.
39:06Exactly. There is a wonderful irony, Mike, of me having, I drafted Shuck with my second to last or last pick and you drafted Malik Willis.
39:14Yeah. It feels, that feels. These are the opposite.
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39:33Wednesday night. Have we had a Wednesday night breakdown graphic before?
39:37No. No, because we've never had this segment. That hits pretty nicely.
39:41I don't even remember doing that jingle. I don't remember anything about anything.
39:45All right. You guys ready for our matchup? Let's do it.
39:49New England Patriots at Seattle Seahawks. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
39:52All right. Yeah, we got some new graphics up there.
39:56YouTube.com slash the fantasy footballers. All right. New England goes to Seattle.
40:00Here we go. Super Bowl rematch. The 12 at home.
40:03Over under 44 and a half. Vegas is, they have the line Seattle minus three and a half.
40:09You know, to me, this one, I said this before the show.
40:13I knew we were breaking it down. To me, this one screams like defensive battle because a lot of the times the
40:20defenses are a little bit out ahead of the offenses to start the season.
40:25I mean, I'm willing to be surprised. I think it'd be more fun if I was.
40:30But 44 and a half, not a huge over under New England.
40:34They get to try out some new receiving options for Drake May.
40:38He goes out there 4,400 yards. Amazing season. Now they got to go on the road and play Seattle.
40:44He gets to try the A.J. Brown, Romeo Dobbs situation out.
40:48I think this is fun. I mean, Seattle, obviously, 29-13 in the Super Bowl.
40:53Drake May was under fire. This was not a good game for Drake May.
40:5752% pressure rate in the Super Bowl. And, man, you know.
41:01Like, any team opening the season at home is going to be electric, right?
41:05The crowd's going to be. But now it's Seattle.
41:08There is no louder place. Yeah. So I think the first few possessions are going to be wild.
41:14But here we go. We got Drake May v.
41:17Sam Darnall. We got to see Jadarian Price in prime time to start the season as the primary back.
41:24We get to see the true three-down bell cow best back they got, Ramondre Stevenson.
41:29So where do you want to start when we break this one down?
41:33I think we should start with the fact that, you know, this is a team that scored 13 points against Seattle in the Super Bowl.
41:41They've got changes. They've lost Travion Henderson. You know, they won't have him.
41:45Going into that environment, it's going to be tough sledding, I think, for the Patriots on the road.
41:51I'm excited. I hope that, you know, I hope that the new wide receivers are what makes the difference.
41:58And instead of, you know, only being able to score 13 points against great defense, they're like, hey, we needed an A.J.
42:05Brown that could go up and moss against great cornerbacks the way that he was doing against Rick Wollin and, you know, in inter-team scrimmages this offseason.
42:14And that's the one to keep an eye on for me is just how does A.J.
42:19Brown look week one because this is a very, very tough matchup for him.
42:24Yeah, I agree. I mean, the expectations are – where are you super excited and where are you tempered when it comes to your start-sit decisions here?
42:33Man, I don't know that – I don't know that anyone in this – well, JSN, I mean, he's elite.
42:39But it's like everyone else is – I'm going to start them if I draft them.
42:45Week one breakdowns are pretty tough because, you know, you're – generally speaking, you should be playing the team that you drafted.
42:52We already kind of know who our starters are except for maybe like a double flex.
42:57But these are – this is a scary matchup, especially on the Patriots side too.
43:02It's like – Yeah, I mean, Romeo Dobbs, you're not going to really – you wait and see because you didn't draft him to start.
43:10Yes. Ramondre, I think you start with the understanding it's going to be – Yeah, it's just going to be volume.
43:17Here's something that we have not talked about. You talked about – Jason didn't say Bucky Irving's name too much.
43:24That was kind of a joke. Obviously, we've talked about him.
43:28This player's name has never been uttered. This player received 12 targets in the Super Bowl.
43:33This player, by all indications, is heavily involved in the offense.
43:37But Cooper Cup plays football for the Seattle Seahawks.
43:39Huh? Cooper Cup is a starting wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks.
43:43Yeah. Can I say it again? 12 targets in the Super Bowl.
43:47We'll see. Rashid Shahid has a whole offseason with this team to further establish himself.
43:52That's a difference of – I'm fine, you know, keeping the eye on Cooper Cup of how involved he will be.
43:59I think Shahid will be more schemed up, more targeted at this point of his career.
44:05So, I don't hate to shut up. I would have some captain lineups in.
44:09Like our old school, like, isolated DFS lineups. I'd Cooper Cup some captain lineups and just get surprised with a touchdown or two.
44:17But, yeah, I mean, getting to see the breakdown all the way across the board for Seattle's offense.
44:23Like, we know who JSN is. But how do those other guys get involved?
44:27George Halani. How does Halani and Price, that breakdown happen?
44:31If you're making a decision, you've got a deeper team.
44:34You're having to choose Ramondre or Jadarian Price in week one.
44:38Do you take the rookie at home with more competition, may not have goal in, we don't know, or do you take
44:45the high – you know, Ramondre's going to catch a ton of passes.
44:49Which direction do you go there? I lean the Price side.
44:53I mean, these are two tough teams to run on.
44:56But last year, I mean, the Seahawks, they gave up 14 points per game to the running back position.
45:02They're at home. They're favored. At least you are more confident that Ramondre will get the passing work.
45:08And we don't know yet with Price. I would say it's near a coin flip.
45:13But, you know, if you drafted Price, you're probably – you drafted him ahead of Ramondre.
45:19They're at home and they're favored. So, I would lean that side.
45:23Would you play Price or would you ride the Marshawn Lloyd situation for a few weeks in Green Bay?
45:29Because I could see a lot of teams having both those guys.
45:33Lloyd going later. I'm just curious. I know we're just acclimating.
45:37Yeah. Starts at decisions, but they're hitting hard. I have Price just a couple spots ahead of Lloyd.
45:42The Ramondre play – so, last year, Seattle allowing the highest running back target share.
45:47Like, that's where it is. If you can get four or more receptions from Ramondre, it's going to end up being a decent start.
45:55Just so people know, since the season's starting, all of our week-run rankings are up on the site.
46:01TheFantasyFootballers.com. All of our individuals and then the consensus rankings for week one with player projected points.
46:07Right now, where do we have those guys? Right now, we have Ramondre as a consensus.
46:12We have Ramondre two spots ahead of Jadarian Price.
46:15Just for the context on there for player projections for the week.
46:19Like, Hunter Henry dominates in week one, right? Isn't that what we're supposed to expect?
46:24He often does. Before we're ever going to talk about him.
46:28First couple weeks of the season, and that is, you know, if you look across the board at how the Seahawks play
46:35defense last year, they shut down the running backs, shut down the wide receivers.
46:40They were average against tight ends, so maybe that's a place that they'll have to go with their corners locking down A.J.
46:47Brown and Romeo Dubs. Yeah, there are some of the top tier quarterbacks have, like, pretty tough week one matches.
46:54Josh Allen going on the road against Houston week one.
46:57Drake May going on the road against Seattle in week one.
47:00I would not, again, this is your reminder that we'll repeat and ignore probably.
47:05Don't overreact to week one. It's a long season.
47:08Sometimes you see disasters. It's very possible Drake May and this offense doesn't look what they're going to look like adding these new pass catchers.
47:16So there you go. You guys have any other thoughts on the breakdown?
47:21No, I mean, go George. Go George. So now you're fully rooting for George Helani.
47:26Fantastic. But, Jay, we were like. I know we've been more anti-Price.
47:30Yeah. And so that we need Helani. It makes sense.
47:33It's just funny. Like if you're anti-Price to just say that you love the other guy no matter what?
47:39Yeah. Okay. As somebody that has hated other players, I agree.
47:43That is how it works. You think I like Ramondre for real?
47:47I don't want to like Ramondre. All right. Why don't we do a little mailbag, give the people a little extra today.
47:54And, man, football tomorrow. Mailbag. Presented by Paramount+. Guys.
47:57Yes, sir. Guys. Yes. Do you realize we're in it?
48:00Listen to this. Listen to this question. Oh, no.
48:03It's the most perfect. We're in it. Oh, no.
48:06Chris in Michigan. Chris. Oh, no, Chris. Chris, I'm praying for you.
48:10I believe Malik Willis outscores Josh Allen in week one.
48:14Should I make the switch? No. No. I wouldn't do that.
48:17No. Not Josh Allen. You think Josh Allen can't figure it out?
48:21Well, let me say this. Last year in week 12, we saw Josh Allen on the road in Houston.
48:27He scored eight fantasy points. So, he's going to need to figure it out more than he did last year in this opportunity.
48:35So, you're pro Malik. No. I mean, I would still start Josh Allen.
48:39We've seen him in plenty of tough matchups where he overcomes.
48:43I can't fathom that, you know, he's incapable of outscoring Malik Willis.
48:47I mean, any week players can, you know, Malik Willis could outscore Josh Allen, but probabilities, our rankings, how we would start players.
48:55You put Josh Allen in there. And you want to have a wild week one, go do it.
49:01There are definitely situations where it's like, guys drafted to start, I wouldn't mind playing Malik Willis.
49:06But not Josh Allen, but I'm saying, week one, we have Mahomes versus Bo Nix.
49:11Like, so you got Bo against the Chiefs defense, and Mahomes off of his reconstructed knee against the Denver defense.
49:18Yep. I would, I'd be very open to play Malik Willis.
49:21Over those guys. Yeah. Yeah. There was a clarity question coming in from Instagram.
49:26What is a onesie? I hear you say it all the time.
49:30I don't know what it means. Sure. A onesie is where in a standard fantasy football league, there is just one of those players in your starting lineup.
49:39So as in one quarterback, one tight end. So we'll say stuff like, hey, I'm going to take another running back here versus going to a onesie position.
49:48Because you're only required to play the one, but running backs and wide receivers, you have to play multiples.
49:55There you go. Should, Greg wants to know, California, should trade deals and DMs be talked about in the public chat?
50:02No. What? What do you mean? Should trade deals?
50:05Maybe the inner workings of DMs. Is it faux pas to like talk about those in a public chat?
50:11Is that maybe what the question was asking? Oh, yeah.
50:14Like reveal. Oh, okay. Yeah. This is, if that's what it is.
50:18Like if you're talking, if me and Mike are discussing a trade and then I go air the laundry, right?
50:25Like I go put his comments or something in the main chat to try to leverage.
50:30Like leverage for another offer from somebody or like.
50:33If it's trying to leverage, I feel like that's pretty Bush league.
50:37If it's making fun of someone, I don't know.
50:40That's pretty fun. It might jeopardize your future. It'll jeopardize your future deals.
50:44I was going to say, you'll have leverage once.
50:47Yeah. And then no one's going to do that.
50:50And it will, it won't just be the other person that you exposed to.
50:55You made mad like the rest of the league is going to see that you're out there sharing people's private messages.
51:02I, I, be careful, but sometimes it's funny. Uh, PJ writes in who's your go-to later round IR stash player on draft day.
51:09I was hoping last night it would be Jordan.
51:12Everyone wanted Jordan Tyson. That's the great one. That is the obvious one.
51:17The terrible, disgusting one that I also wanted was Isaiah Pacheco.
51:20Uh, I know I sold you. It's disgusting. It was, I'm talking last round.
51:25Like when you've got no one left and you just, and you just want, uh, you know, to basically get a free player.
51:33Would you, you say you'd rather do that with Pacheco over like Charbonnet?
51:37No, no. I'm, but Charbonnet is not there at your last round.
51:41I'm saying like the very last round, the guy that is always available as opposed to, so for instance, for me, I
51:48drafted Terrence Ferguson with my last pick. Right. My plan was to just draft Isaiah Pacheco with the last pick.
51:55And then this morning, put him on IR and pick up Terrence Ferguson.
51:59Disgusting. Awful. Unnecessary. But it's just a free, it's a free card.
52:03No, I would much rather have Charbonnet. Obviously Jordan Tyson is, is the king.
52:08Yeah. Is the hero that we all want in, you know, for us it was, I think I was hoping to get
52:15him at the 607, which would be like ninth round.
52:18He went a little earlier. So eighth or ninth round.
52:22I was hoping seventh in our league. That was the mailbag presented by Paramount Plus.
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52:31See you Sunday. See you Wednesday. See you Thursday.
52:34See you every day. See you tomorrow. Happy days.
52:37We got Super Bowl picks tomorrow on the show.
52:40Ooh. So, um, I just got to figure out whether I should.
52:44I just got to figure out who's going to win.
52:47Reveal my Dolphins pick today or tomorrow. I don't know.
52:51You guys don't like the Dolphins for the Super Bowl?
52:54You're going to get some great odds on that.
52:57I will. Yeah. I'll make a lot of money.
53:00Yeah. You just need to put $1 down. It probably won't be the Dolphins.
53:05You'll be a millionaire. We'll have to preview the Thursday night game tomorrow.
53:09You know what I mean? And then that'll be fun too because football is here.
53:14It's football time. All right. We'll catch you tomorrow.
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