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Early Breakouts & Sleepers - Fantasy Football Podcast for 6/9
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56 min
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Jun 9, 2026
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Tue, June 9, 2026
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Aaron JonesJonathon BrooksBrian Thomas Jr.Chris RodriguezChristian WatsonGeorge KittleParker WashingtonTrevor Lawrence
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Player insights
Aaron Jones
PositiveUsage0:43
From week eight on, Aaron Jones had a 32% workhorse role in the Minnesota offense, which is significant for a late-round pick.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:51
Aaron Jones is currently being drafted as the running back 40, making him a free starting running back for a team projected to be a top 15 offense.
Insight pagePositiveValue0:52
Aaron Jones is a great value pick in the ninth round, especially considering his significant role in the offense with a 32% work share from week eight on last season.
Insight pageBrian Thomas Jr.
PositiveRole0:16
Brian Thomas Jr. has shown talent, but his role may be impacted by the emergence of Parker Washington and the distribution of targets in the Jaguars' offense.
Insight pageChris Rodriguez
PositiveInjury0:34
Chris Rodriguez is expected to be ready for training camp after undergoing a procedure on his foot, which is good news for his availability.
Insight pageChristian Watson
PositiveValue0:46
Christian Watson's ADP is appealing, and he has the potential to significantly outperform it, especially after his recent contract extension.
Insight pageGeorge Kittle
PositiveInjury0:04
George Kittle is optimistic about being ready for week one, which is encouraging for his fantasy outlook.
Insight pageJonathon Brooks
PositiveProjection0:43
With the highest commitment to their offensive line and a first-round pick on a tackle, Jonathan Brooks has a real chance to take over the lead role in Carolina's backfield this season.
Insight pagePositiveBreakout0:57
Jonathan Brooks, entering his third year, has shown promise and could emerge as a key player for Carolina, especially with the team showing commitment to him after the departure of Rico Dowdle.
Insight pageParker Washington
PositiveBreakout0:31
Parker Washington has shown significant potential, finishing as the wide receiver 11 in fantasy during the second half of last season, and could be a breakout candidate this year.
Insight pageTrevor Lawrence
PositiveProjection0:00
Trevor Lawrence is expected to lead a potent Jaguars offense this season, making him a desirable target for fantasy managers.
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1:00To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
1:05Welcome in. Tuesday, June 9th, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.
1:08Mike Wright, Jason Moore, I'm Andy Holloway. Although I look like Jason Moore.
1:12You do, black shirt, black hat, cantaloupe. Thank you, Mike.
1:15We're twins today, so you should wear yours backwards.
1:18Alright, I'm down. Yeah. There we go. It's a cool guy.
1:21I'm young, hip now. Yeah, there you go. I don't know how to do that.
1:26Yeah, you gotta tighten it up and have it barely sit on your head.
1:30Isn't that right, Matt? In honor of Fred Bersh.
1:33Isn't that right, youths? Yeah! Don't even know how to wear a house.
1:37Ah, you need a red hat for us. Yeah, yeah, yeah!
1:41Thank you. Yeah, there you go. You look super cool.
1:44Dude, I can't. I can't wait for Ted Hurst to break out.
1:48Mike, I think, didn't you say that the other day?
1:51Or somebody in this office was like, oh no, it was Schneider.
1:55He goes, Ted Hurst has to. Yes. He has to break out.
1:59Oh, man. He's like, this has to be a thing.
2:02Yeah! Yeah! And now you see why. So welcome in.
2:05Fresh off of the weekend. Everybody have a good weekend?
2:08Yeah! Played a lot of golf. Yeah, you did.
2:11You did play a lot of golf. You even joked about the fact you might be out on the course this morning when we were going to record.
2:20I wasn't 100% sure you were lying. But I'm here.
2:23Did you play good golf? Or just golf? For me, yes.
2:27For others, no. And did you buy how many new golf gadgets?
2:31Have you? A handful. A handful. And they bring in the- What's the time frame here?
2:36They bring in the score. I mean, yeah. Yeah.
2:39Yeah. My best score ever gets it. Jason is the ultimate pay to win.
2:43Oh, yes! The ultimate pay to win. Yes! For sure.
2:46In all aspects of your life. Yes. If I could- Competitive advantage, it costs me a couple bucks.
2:52Absolutely. Here you go. Absolutely. Here's my bank account.
2:55You're like, what if- People are like, oh, I hate the- No, man.
2:59I'll just slip you a Benji. I hate those games where you pay to win.
3:04I'm like, give me all the pay to win games.
3:07Well, and Al, what is this? You said you're going broke trying to keep up with Jason?
3:12That is correct. Good luck. You're buying all the stuff he's buying?
3:16So far, but I'm running out a lot faster than he is.
3:20Oh, man. We got a great show today. We have- You guys.
3:24Yeah, Mike is just- He's just off from the sideline.
3:27Mike just- He came out with us once, shot better than everybody, and then went home.
3:32Yeah. Early retirement. I just- I figured out who you guys were.
3:36Oh! I'm looking for real competition. You're going to wait a while?
3:40Yeah. Oh, man. I'll wait to see you next year.
3:43I'm going to see if you can pay enough to get on my level.
3:47Oh, I can. Oh, my goodness. Mike offers lessons.
3:50He'll pay you. Instagram.com slash fantasyfootballers. The community's over at jointhefoot.com.
3:54We'd love to have you join the ultimate tier and get the brand new, just released, 2026 Ultimate Draft Kit.
4:00Oh, it's hot. Made quite a few tweaks this week into some rankings.
4:04I don't know if you guys reacted to the player-endorsed George Kittle, thinks he's there for week one.
4:10I mean, I- Both George Kittle and Tucker Craft- More optimist.
4:13We're still a ways out, but I'm falling for it.
4:17Well- I'm falling for it. That one is, I think that's very interesting at that position in particular.
4:22Yeah, that's fair. Because if you, if you, if a player at wide receiver is ahead of schedule and he's going to
4:29be there, it's like you have a lot of options that you can choose from to mitigate that risk and not mess with it.
4:37Right. Whereas, at tight end, the upside, like if you don't have, I mean, whether you put all four of the, the,
4:44the big guys in the category, Warren Loveland and, um, Brock and, Brock and McBride.
4:49Beyond that, it's like, okay, I take a shot on an injured Kittle and maybe he plays week.
4:55Maybe by week four, he's great. Whereas, I saw- The other guys, you, you know, you pick up a Laporta in the
5:02draft versus what Kittle's upside is, it might be worth it.
5:05Yeah. I think more so with Craft simply because he's younger and he was looking very dominant.
5:10I mean, he's about to get the bag too.
5:13For sure. But I saw, I think it was, I think it was Scott Barrett online talking about this year is like the year of the peptides.
5:22So all these, all these timelines and there's recoveries, the Wolverine, everyone's on, you know.
5:27Well, don't forget one of the key factors for George Kittle.
5:30Now you're a man. A man, a man, a man.
5:33He is, that's a man. He really, it is a pure will and a desire to play football.
5:39He loves football. He loves football. He loves, did you hear him talk about Mike Evans?
5:44Yeah. Yeah. About how he wants to like cry every day because he's got this true, unbelievable, alpha wide receiver for the first time.
5:52A veteran that actually loves the game. Yeah. It's like, he basically said that.
5:56He basically is like, for the first time in my career, I've got a real wide receiver here.
6:02It's me, Ricky. Yeah. Ricky's like, nah. You want to say something good about me?
6:07Is that Ricky Pearsall's voice? It's me, Ricky P.
6:10Oh man. Um, no, that, that's a, that was an interesting one.
6:13Like I think I had Ricky mouse, Ricky mouse, Ricky mouse.
6:17Oh man. It was right there. Oh man. So you got Mike Evans on one side and Ricky mouse on the other side.
6:24You didn't even mean to do that voice. No, it happened.
6:28I was, I was trying to insult him. And you did.
6:31Yeah, you did. Because only because George was insulting him without.
6:35He actually, he didn't hear anything you said. He was in a PT.
6:39Oh yeah. Uh, let's talk some more news and notes from around the league.
6:43Oh my goodness. Well, the Packers locked up sort of Christian Watson.
6:47He agreed to a four year extension worth up to $92 million.
6:5131 of it is guaranteed. It's essentially a two year extension.
6:55When you look into the details, 2028 would be a decision year for green Bay.
6:59He has a roster bonus of 13 million in 2028.
7:03Um, guaranteed money wise. This, this isn't a lot.
7:05This puts him in 31st place behind Khalil Shakir and Rashid Shaheed and Wanda.
7:10So it's a, it's an, it's nice for them to commit to him.
7:14It's a win-win honestly, for the team of Christian Watson.
7:17I mean, he, okay. Yes. He's not making the same amount of money that like Alec Pierce is making, but Romeo Dobbs money.
7:25Wow. That's Romeo Dobbs is awesome. But it's like that.
7:28That's a level of guaranteed money. That is that changes the course of your family forever.
7:33And it's, it's not definitely not Pat McAfee money.
7:36Oh no, goodness. Mahomes isn't getting McAfee money, but it's like, but they commit to that.
7:41They commit to Watson. He gets, uh, he, he gets, you know, life changing money and they're committed to him.
7:47I dude, I am very, very into Christian Watson's ADP.
7:50I mean, I feel like Chris, you and I, we were both in on, on Watson for sure.
7:56The drum beats is getting louder. I just feel like he and Alec Pierce are like an incredible parallel for one another.
8:03For sure. Um, I think they're very similar. I think their output could be, you know, way outpacing their ADP.
8:09Yes. So, and I don't, I don't think anything we say about them is going to change it.
8:15There are situations that, you know, if you, if the drum beat starts going, the player's going to move up two, three, four rounds rookies.
8:23It happens all the time. Preseason, big plays. These guys have been around the block.
8:28And when I, I tweeted out, you know, the, the extension back when it happened of saying like, I, I like seeing
8:35this because I have been extremely bullish on Watson and I'm glad to see that the Packers are agreeing.
8:41Dude, the, the comments were vast majority. Good luck with that.
8:44Yeah. I mean, so you speak to what you're saying is the, the vibes on Christian Watson are people are just, no,
8:51I will not be fooled again by this. There is not every player.
8:56There is the chance that that's all wasted money.
8:58I mean, legitimately, if he gets hurt again, which he has not been able to avoid.
9:04His, his, uh, soft tissue is soft. So yeah.
9:06Um, Jacoby Brissette is officially reported to Cardinals. Many fans.
9:10Thank goodness. Thank goodness. Wow. That was scary for a while.
9:13I mean, that's news. Next news. Cam Scadaboo participating in drills on Monday's mini camp.
9:18Not just participating, dominating. Did you see, did you see some, I mean, he looks great.
9:23He was making jukes down the field, catching long bomb passes.
9:26I love Cam. I think that was very obvious in that summary.
9:30Chris Rodriguez. Crod. Crod. Jaguars running back expected to be ready for training camp.
9:35I guess he underwent a procedure in his foot following an injury in the offseason program that Liam Cohen was being cagey
9:42and weird about and wouldn't tell anybody about it.
9:45Um, but they did say he was expected to, to participate once training camp starts.
9:49It's good that he's going to be, you know, healthy for the season, but I do think this gives a leg up for Tootin to establish himself.
9:58He has the opportunity right now to really, you know, go into Travis H.
10:02And Jr.'s role. Uh, he's, he's going to do that until Chris Rodriguez is back.
10:07So, I mean, I was going into the offseason.
10:10The, the disparity in ADP between Crod. Um, it was, he, he was way too late drafted.
10:15Tootin was just the assumed guarantee. Now I'm actually kind of in on Tootin at where he's going.
10:21Yeah. I think it's more positive every time he gets a rep and a chance to establish where he was the guy there last year already.
10:30It's good for them. So I think Jacksonville as a whole might be one of the most interesting teams in fantasy for the entire year.
10:37Trevor Lawrence, what they did at the end of the season, the amount of wide receivers, some of which we'll talk about
10:44today because I didn't mention it, but we're getting into our early breakouts and sleepers on today's show.
10:50And so if you have the UDK, you know, we have our sleepers, breakouts, bus, and values in the UDK.
10:57That is our consensus list guys that we agree on, or at least two and a half of us agree on it.
11:04But, um, these are more like individual picks and we may agree with one another.
11:08I don't know the names that you guys are bringing up, but, um, we're talking early breakouts, early sleepers.
11:14I was really, um, I'm, I'm excited to hear your first early breakout pick.
11:19Cause I, I didn't know until this morning who you had in here.
11:23Do you agree with it? I'm going to wait until after you give your case.
11:28Oh, you want to jump in? Let's go. Breakouts.
11:31Well, I think, I think if we were trying algorithm rules, I shouldn't go first because you just kind of teased it.
11:38People are anticipating the longer they watch, the better the algorithm.
11:41It's Parker Washington. Oh, okay. Oh man. You went first.
11:44So I think this is a very interesting one.
11:47We're into the early breakouts. We'll start out here.
11:50We just got one name that we want to bring up.
11:54Uh, a breakout. We define it as a fantasy player that we think could become a fantasy darling of sorts.
12:00Um, anywhere from that to superstar game changer, somebody that makes a big impact on your team.
12:05Maybe they flash some signs of success. Maybe they're not being drafted in a spot where this is interesting considering your feel
12:12like your feelings on, uh, a Brian Thomas and Hunter.
12:16Yeah. I brought, I brought them both up at different times.
12:19Yeah. The, the, the Brian Thomas jr. Last season, like that was a problem.
12:23Obviously this offense, Liam Cohen, the ball gets spread around quite a bit.
12:28I think some of why I want to bring Parker Washington's name up is actually, I think it's out of fairness to
12:35those other discussions where, you know, Travis Hunter, the story of Travis Hunter is simply the snaps.
12:40He could be a great player. And if he gets 50% of the offensive snaps, we're not going to care.
12:46Right. It's not going to make a difference. I think what, what's kind of wild about Parker Washington is, you know, maybe
12:53you guys had his stat line memorized. I don't know.
12:57But to me, when I went back and looked at it, I was kind of blown away.
13:02This was a receiver last year who really the breakout for him began in the second half of the season for Jacksonville.
13:09And a lot of it was attributed to, well, you know, BTJ, you're struggling.
13:13And we lost Travis Hunter. So this is just de facto guy in the game from week nine on.
13:20He was the wide receiver 11 in fantasy. And his final stat line was 847 yards receiving on this team.
13:26And that's at 14.6 a catch. He had a tremendous PFF grade as a wide receiver.
13:31And this wasn't just all screen passes or underneath or short route stuff.
13:35He's 24 years old. And the team has come out and said, they're pretty much their top priority right now.
13:42I mean, they could go try to extend BTJ if they wanted to or somebody else.
13:47It's to sign Parker Washington, who really broke out in the second half of the season.
13:52You know, his target share weeks nine through 18 was tied with Jacoby Myers for the lead at the wide receiver position.
13:59He played 50 50 in the slot and out wide for this team.
14:03And every report from camp so far has been he's just continuing to ascend.
14:07So I think when you look at BTJ, you're saying, can he return to what he did as a rookie?
14:14He's going to be out there for every snap.
14:17I don't think you're going to see that return because of the distribution of targets.
14:21He he did most of what his dominant performances were was Mac Jones with what like a 96 percent target share.
14:28That might be hyperbolic, but it was close to that.
14:31It was a lot of targets. Basically, when Parker Washington took over, which he was averaging 71 receiving yards a game when
14:38he was the wide receiver 11, the Jags went eight and one in those games like it worked him being that heavily involved in the offense.
14:46And the fact he plays all over the field is versatile enough to play all over the field.
14:52It's pretty interesting to me. And I think I think his role is very, very secure.
14:57Jacoby Myers is capped. We kind of know what Jacoby Myers is.
15:01Uh, Britain strange. I think similarly, we know what he is as a possession receiver.
15:06I think at 24 years old, Parker Washington still has room to grow.
15:10There were only two wide receivers with 50 plus percent of the routes in the slot that had a better yards per outrun than him.
15:18It was Amon Ron Dick. So he was, I think my point here is, is that he was competing fantasy production, PFF
15:25rank yards per route run with the best players at the position last year.
15:29And that was something I didn't even realize when it was happening.
15:33It felt like it was a hundred percent chance and opportunity that he gets these snaps.
15:38Not that the team had fallen in love with him, which if you go and read the comments, it seems like that's the case.
15:46So, you know, I don't think it's impossible that Parker Washington ends up leading the team in receptions this year.
15:52Okay. And so when you talk about draft spot, he's wide receiver 42.
15:57He's a ninth round pick. So BTJ is probably a value in drafts at his draft costs.
16:02But I think Parker Washington is as well. And it's, he's much further than BTJ.
16:07So if you don't like, if you, if you have the burns from BTJ, this is a potential breakout pivot where they could move on from BTJ.
16:15Right. They could trade a mid season and all of a sudden the breakout for Parker is bigger.
16:21Cause BTJ's got one more year, right? He's, he's in, no, he's in year three.
16:26He was a first rounder. So they can have him for five total.
16:30Right. But this is year four for Parker Washington.
16:33So his, yes. So I'm just saying if they commit to Parker Washington, that's what I'd be watching for in dynasty leagues too.
16:40Like the team has said, that's their next to do list item is basically Parker Washington and Britain strange are the next two contracts they want to sign.
16:49But the numbers beneath Parker Washington's performance were a lot more than opportunity.
16:53It was actual performance. And you watch the games and you saw what he was able to do on a regular basis.
17:00Um, I thought it was super impressive. So I think at the draft costs, he fits the breakout mold.
17:06We like Liam Cohen. We like Trevor Lawrence. We like what Jacksonville's offense is capable of doing.
17:12So if you don't like, are you guys believers in BTJ and Travis Hunter?
17:16I am a believer in BTJ. I don't think that you can do what he did his rookie year on accident or
17:23just because of Mac Jones, like Mac Jones. Yeah.
17:26I went and double checked it. It was a 35% target share.
17:30Yeah. I was playing with Mac Jones. Right. But I'm just saying on the field, he was able to.
17:36Yes. But 35%, which is not going to happen.
17:39Like that is the elite of the elite. Yeah.
17:42On this team. Now, the way they spread the ball around the fact that they've added, um, Jacoby Myers and Parker Washington.
17:49I don't think BTJ is there, but as a talent, I believe in BTJ.
17:53The question I have is whether or not Parker Washington is going to be on the field in two wide receiver sets.
18:00Cause right now I don't think he is right now.
18:03I think he is primarily the slot guy and they'll play a lot of 11 personnel.
18:08He played 50, 50 last year. He played out wide half of the time last year.
18:13So I think your question is valid. I think he's proven he can do it.
18:18Yeah. So then the question is, I mean, which guy is, I think he's a good player.
18:24And that's what I think in your breakout pick of Parker Washington, that's the part I liked is he wasn't just a
18:31guy who had some opportunity 95 targets. Yeah. And, and was, and was fine with it.
18:36He's, he looked good, you know, kind of like how we talk about Michael Wilson when he had his little stint.
18:42It was like, you watch the film, he's doing everything, right.
18:46Every level of the field. You can go deep, you can go short.
18:50He's running crisp routes. He's always where you want to be.
18:54He's catching every pass. If it's contested, he's coming down with it.
18:57Parker looked great. I just, I still just worry whether or not he's going to be on the field.
19:03I know weeks 10, 11, 12, um, Brian Thomas jr.
19:07Parker missed last year. And that's kind of when the breakout started for Parker Washington.
19:11And so trying to remember it last year, it felt like it was opportunity, but at the same time, he was good with it.
19:19So I mean, wide receiver three, eight and eight, the last three games of the season.
19:24We'll see what happens. I, I think a lot of what this show is about is picking some names that are not
19:31going to be the most published names in breakout categories, sleeper categories out there in the.
19:36So there should be disagreement and there should be questions.
19:39This is just a player that when I looked at the film and the numbers, I kind of started to fall in love with.
19:47I am ranked higher than both of you guys by quite a bit.
19:51We'll see what happens. It's still, I think Trevor Lawrence is where you want to go for the, we all want a piece of the Jaguars offense.
20:00This Liam Cohen Jaguars offense looks great, but with so many receiving options, it, it feels like, well, you know, you just,
20:07you go Trevor Lawrence and get them all. Okay.
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21:11Oh man, you got, Mike, what do you got?
21:14You got him. I'm just kidding. Got him. My breakout player for 2026 is Jackson Dart.
21:19Last year, rookie quarterback for the New York giants.
21:22Jackson Dart was incredible. I mean, he was, he was like a fantasy revelation as a rookie with no wide receivers.
21:28I mean, you didn't have Malik neighbors when Jackson Dart was playing.
21:32He didn't get his first start until week four.
21:35And it's really, it comes down to one thing and it's a stupid thing, but it's the most important thing for fantasy when it comes to quarterbacks.
21:44It's rushing. If you want the true breakout, if you want the guy who's going to break fantasy, you want the guy
21:51who's going to win like 25% of leagues, like had this player.
21:54It's a quarterback who rushes for an outrageous amount.
21:57And that's what Jackson Dart was doing last year.
22:00How insane was his rushing? 41 rushing yards per game in his starts.
22:04That's the fifth best among rookie quarterbacks ever of all time.
22:08So his 17 game pace in his starts would have been 13 rushing touchdowns, which is unbelievably great.
22:14Almost 700 rushing yards on over a hundred attempts.
22:16Only Josh Allen scored more total rushing fantasy points last year at the quarterback position.
22:21I know, you know, we had some injuries to Lamar Jackson.
22:25We had an injury to Jaden Daniels, but the point is he's up there with like the elite of the elite when
22:32it comes to rushing and really Lamar is who he reminds me of.
22:36He, he, he doesn't run and have the body of like Josh Allen of younger Jalen hurts.
22:41This is a Lamar Jackson type of guy. Who's just out there making ridiculous little whoop whoop, you know, just no one can, can catch him.
22:49He's very slippery. Whoop whoop. That's what he does.
22:52You know, look, Cam Scadaboo's over there going like, yeah, just screaming.
22:56I mean, the four, four and six, a lot of sounds.
23:00They are exactly. They're, they're, they're going to make some noise right now.
23:04It's good time to be a sports fan in New York.
23:07You know, the, the, do you hold your breath at all with the, yeah.
23:12Oh yeah. I mean, no, I hope I hope my breath with the break prediction of Jackson's art.
23:18The way that he plays is obviously putting himself there.
23:21He missed games with a concussion last year. He exited games.
23:24He probably should have missed more. He should have missed more.
23:28There, there's certainly not six, five to 45. Cam Newton.
23:31There is, there is physical health risk, but when he is out there, he is very valuable for, for fantasy football among
23:3838 qualifying quarterbacks with 200 plus dropbacks. He was tied for fourth in fantasy points per drop back.
23:44When he had the ball in his hands, he scored fantasy points.
23:47Josh Allen was ahead of him. Lamar Jackson was ahead of him.
23:51Brock Purdy. And he was tied with Drake may that's it.
23:55And that was as a rookie. He should get better as a passer.
23:59He has better weapons this year. I, where he's being drafted right now, late seventh round.
24:04He is the guy that I'm targeting where you could see, you know, if you want that guy who took last year's
24:11Drake may leap or the guy that did the Lamar Jackson break fantasy leap to me, that is Jackson.
24:17Why? Why is his draft spot there? I think because people are afraid that he's going to get injured.
24:23You saw him get injured a lot last year.
24:26Um, right now, Malik neighbors, the fact that number one target, Wanda is gone.
24:30Wanda is gone and Malik neighbors is currently having very bad publicity limping around the bases.
24:36His knee has terrible publicity. The videos are hired a horrible publicist.
24:39The timeline, the timeline told him to go play softball in front of a camera.
24:44Yeah. The timeline for Malik neighbors injury really genuinely hasn't changed.
24:48If, if, if you know what the surgery was and the timeline of the surgery, I have said this for months.
24:54He should start on the pup. He is not going to be ready for week one, but by the end of the
25:01year, Malik neighbors should be darn near full strength.
25:04That should be the timeline. That's what I'm sticking to right now.
25:08And that means towards fantasy championships, you've got an alpha out there and a mobile Russian quarterback.
25:13I, I love the idea of drafting a year to quarterback.
25:17Like you did it last year with Jaden Daniels.
25:20It didn't work out cause obviously he got injured, but he costs so much.
25:24He was like the third quarterback being drafted right now.
25:27You're not doing that with Jackson. Dirt. You're, you're drafting him as like the 10th quarterback being drafted.
25:33I'm, I'm all about that. That's the upside that wins fantasy championships.
25:37So, so I, I would say that every part of me wants Jackson Dart to be the next breakout quarterback that we
25:44love in fantasy and in the NFL. I think it's fun.
25:47I think he's a dynamic player. I, I do wonder if he has to make adjustments to his game.
25:54I think it's fair to say he has not proven as a passer at the NFL level yet.
25:59No, but he was on pace for 3,200 passing yards last year as a rookie.
26:04Right. But a touchdown, a game passing. So that is where you start to ask if he slows down the running, if
26:11he takes a bunch of sacks in this offense, if the exposure risk for injury, and he isn't that good of a
26:18passer or not even that good of a passer just isn't throwing enough touchdowns.
26:23The nice thing is where your risk is touchdown pace was, you talk about, you know, near one touchdown a game.
26:29It was, it was over that he was on a 21 passing touchdown pace in his starts, but also 13 rushing touchdowns.
26:36Like you can't pass a touchdown if you rush a touchdown and they're worth more in fantasy usually and mostly.
26:43Did you take a game out of that sample?
26:45I see 18. I see 1.1 a game. Uh, let me look at the two weeks.
26:51Is what I'm looking at in games play. Are you looking at the starts?
26:55I believe I am. It's, oh no, I'm not.
26:58Yeah. So that's, I was looking at the two.
27:01I missed the two. Yeah. His first two weeks he played.
27:0421. Yeah. That's not enough. But you say it's not enough, but if you add 13 rushing touchdowns, it's totally enough.
27:11That's. He's not getting 13. Well, I mean, that was his pace last year.
27:15Yeah. Yeah. This is, this is why I have my alarm.
27:19He won't make it through the season at 13.
27:22I mean, that's just not, that's just not realistic.
27:25I don't think all I'm not, I'm not saying what he's going to do.
27:29I'm saying his pace last year was 21.3 passing and 12.8 rushing touchdowns.
27:33That's not like what I'm projecting him for. That's what he did.
27:37Yeah. As a rookie with like neighbors. I think the biggest context matters, right?
27:41I mean, for sure. Losing the league neighbors and losing cam.
27:45He had a, he never had neighbors. He had him for like, no, I, I, they lost, they didn't have all the team.
27:52Yes. And the team lost him and scatter. Yes.
27:55It very much. When I watched the giants last year, it felt like Jackson's our first, the world.
28:01That's all I'm saying. Yeah. So if you want to run a John Harbaugh offense, it's not going to be Jackson dart against the entire world.
28:09It's going to be more balanced. It's going to be a good defense that I think is getting better and better and
28:16better and not exposing your quarterback to risk. The biggest, why he's going where he's going is because other people agree problem for me with Jackson dart.
28:25And I don't have that many is just Matt Nagy.
28:28Just, I hate the fact that that's his offensive coordinator.
28:31You should. Yeah. I mean, I, I think that there is risk with Jackson dart and I think more of it is volatility.
28:38I think you're going to have big games from him no matter what.
28:43Cause if you run like that, you're going to monster games.
28:46He had that weird game at the end of the year where he had like a point out of nowhere.
28:52And he took 35 sacks. I mean, that is going to be an issue.
28:57If he doesn't get the ball out, if you're taking sacks, there's a little trade off there.
29:02That's all. I mean, somebody else is thinking that he'll be volatile for sure.
29:07But I mean, so is Lamar Jackson. And you know, you have those games where Lamar just doesn't have a lot of fantasy points.
29:14I really like him. I mean, he scored a lot and I do agree with you, Andy.
29:20Last year, it did feel like Jackson dart versus the world.
29:23It was like, okay, what are we doing this play?
29:27Put the ball in Jackson darts hands and hope and pray.
29:30And I also remember some Nick Folsey luck with interceptions.
29:33Yes. He had a lot of passes that I felt like were errant and should have been picked off.
29:39He's going to be fun to watch. I mean, but upside is undeniable.
29:43And that's why he's a breakout pick for me.
29:46This isn't like a sleeper where I think he's going to be better than his value.
29:51This is I'm looking for someone who can win me a league.
29:55He'll be on a lot of your teams. Yes.
29:58The draft value. He has had the upsides undeniable.
30:01The question is, is Mike's guys upside deniable, Jason?
30:04Well, just real quick for Jackson dart. And this could just be, you know, echoing the, oh, he didn't have weapons.
30:10But in the red zone, 47 attempts, nine touchdowns.
30:13Like that's a, that's a horrifically bad ratio of if you're going to actually take the next step.
30:19So do you believe in, out of curiosity, just quick sidebar, do you believe in Isaiah likely as a weapon for him?
30:26And as a mediocre weapon. I think Theo is a better tight end than likely.
30:31I know they paid likely money, but both of them will be on the field.
30:36And we've seen enough of likely to make me not really believe he's a great weapon.
30:41He's fine. He's added. He's better than not having them.
30:44But I don't, I don't look at him as a great target hog.
30:48All right. My guy I'm in on dart. And, but I want to bring this player's name up as well.
30:54He is also a second year quarterback. We're going with Tyler Shuck of the new Orleans saints, who is, if you like
31:01Jack's darts draft price, you're going to love Tyler Shucks, who is currently going on sleeper as the QB 20, the QB 19 on underdog.
31:09His Kyle had just pointed it out to me that his ADP is, has actually gone down over the past month or
31:16so, which is so weird, which is, it's very strange.
31:20So here's my argument for Tyler Shuck from weeks 14 through 18, you know, the, which is not a huge sample, but
31:27it's just pointing out what, what he can possibly do.
31:30He averaged 20 points, 70% completion and 27 rushing yards per game.
31:34This is not Jackson dart level of rushing, but this is, he's giving you enough on the ground that it is making a difference.
31:41You know, his, his 17 game rushing pace over those five games would have been over 450 rushing yards.
31:47We will, we will take that every day of the week.
31:51And then in terms of passing intermediate passing, this matters so much.
31:55Like we all, uh, uh, the, the deep home run, the sexy ball, we're, we're, we're chucking it down the field.
32:01We're getting 50 yard touchdowns. Those are fantastic, but we need people to crush in the intermediate part.
32:07Think of Nico Collins, just destroying teams over and over on a dig route down the middle of the field, about 20 yards.
32:14So 11 to 19 yards down the field, number one in completion, third in yards per pass attempt.
32:20And this team has gotten better. They added, uh, Travis H and junior, AKA Rumble Ia, who in my opinion is a
32:27much better pass catcher than an actual, uh, running back between the tackles.
32:31And they Jordan Tyson in the first round. If your team Tate, if your team Tyson, it doesn't matter.
32:37You know that they're both great players and adding Jordan Tyson to you, to a roster with Chris Olave, who was already
32:44a number one, in my opinion, like that's wild.
32:47It's wild that this team could have two legitimate number one wide receivers on the team.
32:52And, and of course, third round pick Oscar Delp La Hoya at the tight end position.
32:57The schedule is pretty rough. I will add to open, uh, you know, you have on the road against Detroit on the
33:04road against Baltimore, but that game against Detroit week one, it's a 48 and a half point over under.
33:10So there were already projecting big things for the New Orleans saints.
33:14And after those first two weeks at home against Vegas, Atlanta and Minnesota.
33:18So it may be Shuck is not someone you're, you're leaving your draft saying this is the only quarterback I have.
33:25And we're going to ride through the good and the bad.
33:29He at QB 20, he's someone that is probably a quarterback too.
33:32That is going to be on your bench, but I'm looking for him to have a, a true breakout with all the
33:39weapons with Kellen Moore, giving you all those extra plays, which really, really add up over the course of the season.
33:46And at QB 20, I, there's just, there's no one in that range, in my opinion, that can end up with the
33:53ceiling that Tyler Shuck, at least what I saw on the field of last year.
33:58Well, are you in on Shuck Jason? I am in on Shuck.
34:02I don't very similar concerns with Shuck to dart, but I worry about the, um, his rushing upside to, to make up the gap.
34:09I mean, I think last year he was a 10 to six touchdown interception ratio.
34:14Kind of. I know if you, if you look at the first month of him playing, he threw basically like no touchdowns.
34:21After that, he, he was much, much better in the touchdown to interception race ratio.
34:26I remember talking about this with Bo Nix, where we would always take out the first month of his rookie and look how he did down the stretch.
34:35It seemed more realistic. His first two starts for, for Tyler Shuck, by the way, his first two NFL starts on the road against the Rams.
34:43And then on the road against Carolina to play off defenses.
34:47So, I mean, we're absolutely. Yeah, his yardage to be thrown into the fire as your first two starts as an NFL quarterback.
34:54That's pretty wild. And then after the bye week, things really did get going.
34:58Yeah. His last six games, seven touchdowns to three interceptions.
35:02So it just got better. I, yes. I mean, I believe in Tyler Shuck as a good quarterback.
35:07I really do. I think the weapons that he's adding is good.
35:11I love the Kellen Moore system. So I'm kind of in on the Saints.
35:16I don't like the, the, my hesitation with Shuck is I don't know that he can really be someone who wins you a championship.
35:23I don't think he's going to put up enough stats.
35:26He's not going to be someone that I'm projecting to throw for 4,500 and 30.
35:31And since he's not going to rush for 800 yards, the 400 is a nice baseline.
35:36He'll be a quality player, a good streaming option.
35:39I just don't know if he's the pace of which the look seven games played on a pace for 4,300 passing yards with the 400 rushing yards.
35:48That's the most impressive. I mean, Saints are projected for seven and a half wins this year.
35:53They're winning that division this year. The, the other question mark I have with him versus dart is development.
35:59Tyler Shucks 26. Oh, he's developed. He's already done.
36:02Like when you look at runway for development and an upside, I think we might have less room for a shock to move than we do Jackson darts.
36:11So that would be, I guess my other thing I couldn't get there.
36:15Like I, I was, I gave him 4,200 yards.
36:18I gave him 25 touchdowns, but that puts him as my fantasy 19.
36:22I mean, I, I don't care if you take a shot at it personally.
36:27I like Tyler Shuck, but when you talk about a pocket passer, is he going to rush for 350 yards?
36:33Yes. Which is, yeah, I mean, three 50 is fine.
36:36Um, but I don't know if that's enough to make you happy.
36:40You start him every week. He's older than Brock Purdy.
36:43That's it. Hey man, it is what it is, but he's, he's seasoned and he was ready to come in and play.
36:50All right. We'll take a break and we'll get into some sleeper picks.
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37:51Sleepers. All right. Individual sleeper picks for 2026. We'll reverse order this time.
37:55We'll let Mike go first. How about that? Oh, I'm talking two times in a row.
38:00All right. Yep. These are sleeper picks every... But then never again.
38:04You know what I mean? You talk twice in a row, but then never...
38:08Like you can leave. I can't. You can just walk out.
38:12I can unplug and get out of here. That really makes this a Mike Sandwich episode.
38:17Where he's in the... He's the meat. You know?
38:20That's what I'm known for. All right. Over the past couple of years, I have brought things up about the running back
38:27position and specifically talking about players who... Teams that don't have a running back being drafted in the top 24.
38:33And yet, every year, we have, you know, five or so of these teams that a quarterback slips into the top 24
38:40and becomes a very usable player for fantasy football.
38:43And it's really not that complicated. Did you mean quarterback there?
38:47Did I... You did say quarterback. I meant running back.
38:50I'm sorry. That's what I thought. It's not that complicated of a recipe.
38:54It is... Hey. So say it again with the word running back in there, just so I can follow this time.
39:01Okay. Teams... Teams that do not have a top 24 drafted running back...
39:05In fantasy. In fantasy. By the end of the year, five or so of those teams will have someone who's in the top 24.
39:12Right. And the recipe for that is literally just who's got a good offense.
39:17Uh-huh. It's like... You did this last year with the...
39:20We've done it two... So find a good offense.
39:23We've done it two years in a row. Has no one in the top 24.
39:28And it has... And I'm not saying every single one of them is going to be a hit, but this is where you find those players.
39:36This is where you... It's... When you're sifting for gold, it's just put it through the offensive filter.
39:42Javante Williams last year was a guy who was...
39:45And it was... The idea... Even when I was...
39:47Would say... You know, we had our YouTube sensation short series last year, just the tips.
39:53And I was saying the name Javante Williams as someone you might want to be drafted.
39:58It felt disgusting. It should gross you out because that's why they're not going in the top 24.
40:03And it was like, this is not... This is not even possible.
40:07Try to do it again. Try to gross this out again.
40:11Aaron Jones. Yeah. You did it. It is disgusting.
40:14I get it. That's gross. But here's the thing.
40:16I think... And of the teams that I'm looking at, you know, that can be a top 15 offense, you're making some
40:23projections and some assumptions about Kyler Murray really working for the Minnesota Vikings.
40:28It's... At least of right now, Kyler's going to take this job.
40:31And I believe in... I'd say it over and over.
40:35I believe in the O'Connell system. And if you have a competent quarterback, you will have a great offense.
40:41And Aaron Jones is going to be the lead dog of this team.
40:45Even... I look... I love... You don't want that.
40:48I love Jordan Mason. It's what it's going to be.
40:51I love Jordan Mason. I think he's a great running back.
40:54But Aaron Jones, you know, like, oh, they released him.
40:58Yeah, they were just doing some funny money stuff.
41:00They brought him back for a... On a two-year extension.
41:04And just looking at what happened last year with Aaron Jones, he got hurt.
41:08I mean, Minnesota was just a total disaster. But from week eight on, after Aaron Jones came back, he was on pace for 63 targets.
41:16And Jordan Mason, eight and a half. Like, this is very clear who is going to be catching the ball from Kyler Murray.
41:23And Kyler Murray running backs have averaged a target market share of 19% since he came into the league.
41:29That would be... That would have been... And it won't be Jordan Mason.
41:33That would have been 11th last year in terms of a target share going to the running back position.
41:40Kyler Murray will throw it to the running back.
41:42It does happen. Minnesota, I think they're going to be a top half offense.
41:47And this is... And Aaron Jones is being drafted underdog as the running back 40 right now.
41:52People have zero interest. And I don't blame you.
41:55He's 31 and a half years old. Sometimes you got to get gross, right?
42:00Sometimes you do. It is just... This one... It's just offense.
42:03This is what happens. And this is offensive. You're right.
42:06You are welcome. This is... Look, someone's got to bring it up.
42:10Someone has to bring up these disgusting players. Because not everyone's being drafted in the top three rounds.
42:16Jason can get disgusting too. Oh, yeah. But just you wait.
42:19Jason's following the formula. I am. I approve of it very much.
42:23We have very similar players. But pay attention to Aaron Jones.
42:27He is... He is a completely free starting running back for a team that should be a top 15 offense.
42:33Which more often than not, gives you a top 20 running back.
42:37If you don't remember this fact in fantasy, you can never have too many running backs.
42:42Yes. That is a hard position to find players that get snaps.
42:46Period. It's where people will fight tooth and nail on the waiver wire when anybody has an opportunity to get snaps.
42:52So even if you don't start Aaron Jones, and you can get him in the ninth round, just put him on your team.
43:00From week eight on, which I was saying, I quoted that target share, he was also getting 32% of Minnesota's work.
43:06So that's targets and attempts. Like he was the dude...
43:10A 32% workhorse role? That late in a draft is...
43:13That's wild. It is very wild. Getting a starter very, very, very late in a draft shouldn't ever happen.
43:19Right. And when they're a decent offense, even better.
43:22This was Javante last year, which you brought up in the same context.
43:26It's... And I watched enough Jordan Mason, like no disrespect.
43:29Like he's a... He's got his strengths. Yes. But like if you have the create a player menu, like they were put into a few very narrow categories.
43:38Yeah. He focused fired on what he's very good at.
43:41Yeah. Yeah. I'll follow up here because it is basically the exact same theory.
43:46The same game strategy. It is finding a late round running back who is probably the starter for a good offense.
43:52This backfield is far more ambiguous than the Minnesota one.
43:56And this is not a sleeper. This is a coma patient.
43:59This guy's going in the 13th round. He's being drafted after Trey Benson.
44:03Trey Benson is the backup to the backup to the backup.
44:07That can't be... I mean... No one wants... I approve of Trey Benson, but that's ridiculous.
44:12No one wants Rashad White. No. RB41 on underdog, which is I think...
44:16Yeah. As in one spot after Aaron Jones. Yeah.
44:19They're on sleeper right now running back 51 in the 13th round.
44:23Oh, man. Higher on underdog. Rashad White is... I hate this.
44:26I hate this. Right? But the thing is is...
44:29He plays for Washington, by the way. Yes. If all you can do is picture him running for one to carry in Tampa Bay, he has moved teams.
44:38Don't picture him running for one to carry. Picture him catching the ball for five yards.
44:43Oh, is he where number one? Is that actually him?
44:46We'll find out. I just figure he carries up on the jersey.
44:50Rashad White... This is the nice thing is that nobody really wants him.
44:54Nobody in fantasy wants him. He's not going to skyrocket late in drafts.
44:58People are like, ah, he's a plotter. He's... First of all, he's only in year five.
45:03He's 27 years old. This isn't a guy who's aged out.
45:07Also, he is the highest paid running back on the Commanders now with this one year contract.
45:12Everyone is like, oh, it's Ja'Cory Krosky, Merritt, Bill.
45:15It's Bill's team. Thank you, Mike. Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill.
45:19Yeah, I feel like after that drop, I agree.
45:22His opportunities... Bill has never been a pass catcher.
45:25Hasn't really been involved in that. And you've got Rashad White here who, I mean, really, over the last four seasons, Christian McCaffrey has more catches than him.
45:34Alvin Kamara has more catches than him. End of list.
45:37He is a good, reliable... He doesn't do anything great.
45:40No, no, no. But he does do everything. He does do everything.
45:44He is very reliable. Over the last four seasons, he has the six most total snaps at running back.
45:50Like, just behind Saquon, Pollard, McCaffrey, Josh Jacobs, Rashad White.
45:53Is this a Kenny Gainwell situation in your mind in Washington where, you know, Gainwell was a depth piece added and then suddenly the most relevant...
46:02Kyle is sharing news that he is listed as the number one on the Washington site.
46:07So he's talking about jersey number. Oh, I thought you were talking about depth chart, Kyle.
46:12Ironically, I think he will go into the season as the number one.
46:16I think he'll have the veteran starting role. He won't be the explosive player, obviously.
46:21Ja'Cory Krosky-Meritt, more explosive. But I think that this is a team, you know, led by a head coach that wants reliability,
46:28wants veteran leadership, wants just the guys to be able to do the right thing, be in there for pass protection, get
46:35the leak out, dump, catch, help, Jaden Daniels. And Rashad White will do all of those things.
46:40He is very reliable, very out there. And when you look at a team, right now Washington has the second highest vacated target share in the NFL.
46:49You lost Zach Ertz, Debo Samuel, Noah Brown, Austin Eckler.
46:52And then you look at the running back room with Austin Eckler, Jeremy McNichols, and Crodd being gone.
46:58Crodd. This is a real opportunity. They went out, they signed him.
47:01I think he comes in week one as the starter.
47:05Maybe he's not. Maybe he's more of the pass catcher and Bill is the starter.
47:09But even still, and that's a fine way to lay it out.
47:13But even still, you say, okay, who scores more fantasy points?
47:17The guy catching the passes or the guy, you know, getting the work between the 20s?
47:22We're not sure which one of those two would be the goal line guy either way.
47:27But I think that the pass catching guy in the 13th round for an offense with Jaden Daniels that could and should be good with vacated targets.
47:36And we've seen this in the past when there are a lot of vacated targets for a team.
47:41Often it goes to the running back position. And so this is the second most in the NFL.
47:47If there are targets going to the running back position, it will be Rashad White.
47:52Yes. He is the pass catcher for this team.
47:55So this is a situation where I just feel like you're talking about a guy.
47:59They went out, they signed him. He's reliable. He's a pass catcher.
48:03He's on a good offense and he is being drafted in some leagues.
48:07If he doesn't work out, who cares? Yeah. Yeah.
48:10I mean, there's a sleeper pick for a reason.
48:13Listen to the depth chart. Rashad White, Jerome Ford, Jeremy McNichols, Ja'Cory Kroski, and Catron Allen.
48:18If you have five running backs. He is certainly the pass catcher.
48:22And goal line, it might be him. We don't know for sure that it will be Bill.
48:27Last year, Bill converted just three of his 12 carries inside the five for touchdowns.
48:32If it, and like we've seen teams have this where, you know, you have the pass catcher or where I'm sorry, where Bill is like between the twenties.
48:41Rashad White will come in for some pass catching stuff and then they'll get inside the red zone and then they'll go
48:48to the other player and not, not bill. And if you're getting the high value touches, if you're getting the receptions and
48:55the goal line work, I don't care what Bill does inside the twenties.
48:59Yeah. We didn't really get to see this offense last year either.
49:03Like from a, like Terry McLaurin was gone. Jaden Daniels was gone.
49:07And we, we didn't get to see a lot of what JCM was able, would or could have done in a better offense.
49:14And Rashad White will have every opportunity to contribute.
49:17And he's done it before. I mean, he's been a top 24 running back twice.
49:22He's been a running back one once, you know, the last two years we joke, you joke.
49:27He's one yard of carries 4.3 yards of carry the last two years.
49:31And he's a pass catcher. So I think where, where he's being drafted is Mike used to dump all over that dude where he's being drafted.
49:40Just doesn't make sense to me that he would be that low.
49:44No, I agree. And he's an easy name to add to the bench.
49:48And then if it works out, you stole somebody.
49:51And if, if he doesn't, you just sign somebody else.
49:54Speaking of interesting scenarios, final name for the day.
49:57It's Jonathan Brooks. Oh yeah, baby. Running back for Carolina.
50:00Still 22 years old. Yes. He's entering year three.
50:03Yes. His knees have taken a beating, but this, the, the moves that Carolina made this off season and the decisions they
50:10made seem to indicate a commitment to Jonathan Brooks for this third year.
50:14They do. And you have to go back into the time machine.
50:18This was the first running back selected in the 2024 NFL draft of whom we've got to see nothing.
50:24We've got to see nothing. You know, red shirted in 2021 was behind B.
50:28John Robinson tore his ACL in 2023 in 2024.
50:31You know, does it again, does it again, but coming out of the draft.
50:35This was a versatile player who can catch the football.
50:39He has way more burst than Chuba Hubbard. He said it at the podium, but we all know it from the film.
50:46The interesting thing is, is that we saw like Chuba could be a value to depending on their commitment to him.
50:52But Chuba is again, he's like Jordan Mason. He is a player that has a very specific set of skills.
50:59He's going to be reliable. He's going to be able to handle a lot of work.
51:04He is not going to break away run. He is the least efficient pass catcher you've ever seen.
51:10He'll catch it, but man, it'll be for a yard or two.
51:13So I think the opportunity for Jonathan Brooks, I mean, you're already starting to get some drumbeat out of camp, out of the opportunities, but Rico Dowdle.
51:22I mean, he is gone. This was a player that at one point during the season last year took over fantasy.
51:29He's vacating 51% of the carries and 10% of the targets on the team.
51:33He was the lead guy basically from week five on.
51:36And I just think Chuba Harbour does not represent the kind of talent that cannot be usurped by a 22 year old
51:43former first running back off the board. And he's good.
51:46Jonathan Brooks is good. The only issue is, is he healthy?
51:50Like if he's actually back to full strength, then I mean, look at where Jonathan Brooks was being drafted his rookie year.
51:57And, and I know you brought up the age, but he's younger than like last year's rookies.
52:02Oh, Oh, Marian Hampton, Cam Scadaboo, Travion Henderson. Jonathan Brooks is still younger than all of them.
52:08This is a guy who, and he will be forever, but he's a, I love this pick.
52:13He's going to, he's going to be a lot higher.
52:16I think he's going to be really interesting. Yeah.
52:19Right now it's a, he has 37 and underdog.
52:22So he has a wide discrepancy. I don't care about sleepers.
52:26In redraft and underdog. Jonathan Brooks is, I don't disagree with anything of, of this argument.
52:31I think he is a player that you, the, the, the profile and the environment and everything says you need to take
52:38a chance of, of drafting him, which is not inexpensive chance by any means.
52:42He will be someone to follow, uh, over the, the off season of what are they saying about him from the beat reporters?
52:49Cause right. Dude, it's all over. It is all over the place.
52:53I've seen the, the speculation of, well, the, the real reason they let Rico go is because of, of Jonathan Brooks and
53:00their confidence that he was going to be back and be able to be a huge contributor.
53:06Then, and I've seen all Chuba's definitely the workhorse.
53:09Jonathan Brooks will be, he'll be more like Rico was at the beginning of the year.
53:14And then you see reports. Oh, John, the Brooks, he's probably going to steal this job within a month or so of the NFL season starting.
53:22It's, it's crazy how, like how hot and cold the reports are right now.
53:26But I find that encouraging because it could be just one report.
53:30The guy we paid tube was going to be our dude and we'll see what happens with John.
53:36Right. The fact that there's any speculation around that, the fact that Carolina has the most money committed to their offensive line
53:43of any team in football and they spin a first round pick on a tackle and Chuba ran, he didn't have a 15 yard run last year.
53:52That's that. How is that possible? These jobs, these are the jobs that you think are secure for one guy who again, I respect Chuba as the player.
54:00He is. You think they're secure, but then you can't like doubt.
54:04I'll had big plays for them. And then doubt it was the dude.
54:08If Chuba's running and he's running well, but it's little chunk plays and Jonathan Brooks breaks off a screen pass to the,
54:15to the house and a big long run, the conversation will happen very quickly.
54:20And yes, it will. And you're looking at this team and saying, well, I mean, you brought up the saints.
54:26Carolina is in this division. They have every chance to win this.
54:30It's a wide open division. I think we can all agree.
54:34Yeah. New Orleans, Carolina, you know, there Atlanta, there, there are opportunities here and the running game is going to be what they win with.
54:42So, you know, there's a world where Chuba and Jonathan Brooks are both sort of relevant for fantasy during the year.
54:48So, uh, I think as a sleeper, it's time to bring the name back up.
54:53We wanted him to have success the last couple of years.
54:57You know, I think this is a feel good story.
55:00Third time's the charm guys. I mean, if he gets hurt again, I, it will be, it will be time to find a new career.
55:08It will be very devastating. It will be devastating.
55:11So there you go. All of our sleepers breakouts, bus and values that we agree on can be found in the ultimate draft kit at ultimate draft kit.com.
55:19And that'll do it for today's show. What do we got coming up?
55:24Bus and value picks on the Thursday episode of the show.
55:27Some underrated overrated next week as well, Jason. Yes, sir.
55:30I know. When did you go from backwards hat back to forwards hat about 20 seconds ago?
55:36Oh, you just made the switch. Yeah. You were so cool for so long.
55:40I know. Back. It was, but when the show's shutting down the aura of the shows.
55:45Yeah. People are not listening anymore. So I guess it makes sense.
55:49All right. That'll do it for today's episode. Brandy, Mike and Jason.
55:53We say farewell. We'll catch you on Thursday. Goodbye.
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