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1:02To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright.
1:07Oh, welcome in. You guys hear that? That's the sound of 10,000 lawnmowers.
1:11That's true. Revin' up at the exact same time.
1:14It's a Saturday show, boys. Oh! Lawns aren't ready for this.
1:18July 11th, the death of millions of blades of grass.
1:21All happening right now. I guess they don't actually die.
1:25They're just getting a little trim. They're getting a trim.
1:28A little haircut. That's a good point. It doesn't hurt, right?
1:32The grass? I don't know. I don't think. I'm going to say I don't think it hurts.
1:38No. I think I'm going to go on record and say I think it does.
1:43Okay. Hmm. Yeah. Well, we're not botanists. We're fantasy football analysts, and we welcome you into the show.
1:49We have a divisional breakdown episode today getting into the AFC East.
1:53We have covered the North and the South on the previous two episodes.
1:57So if you want breakdowns of those. This better be the East.
2:02This is the East. Okay. You wanted to see North, South, East, West?
2:06Yes. Yeah. If you're going to go in that order.
2:09This was important to you? Yes. Well, we are covering the AFC East, Mike.
2:14You can be comfortable with that. Get into some mailbag if we have extra time.
2:19A reminder, the Ultimate Draft Kit with the Draft Analyzer available now at ultimatedraftkit.com.
2:24We are adding a mock draft tool to the UDK this year.
2:28That should be live within the next couple of weeks on mobile, and then we'll expand to the web.
2:35But this is very exciting. It's an opportunity for you to jump in there, run as many mock drafts as you want,
2:42invite your friends who have the UDK to go mock draft with you, get a feel for where players are going, and
2:50over time you'll be able to, you know, that's why you mock, to try different strategies out, to see how it feels.
2:57Somebody had the quick question, or it was in the mailbag, maybe on the footcast of, where do you like to draft this year?
3:05Do you like to draft at the top, at the turn?
3:09You know, we all shared our opinions, but that's based on mock drafting.
3:13It's the top. It's not always, though. No, not every year.
3:17But that's our opinion right now. Yeah, for sure.
3:20So the mock draft tool coming to the Ultimate Draft Kit that already has all of our player projections, all of our
3:28rankings, our sleepers, breakouts, busts, values, and the draft analyzer and a lot more.
3:32100-player profile videos. Yeah, 100-plus player profile videos. You better watch them.
3:36Ultimate Draft Kit.com. Takes a lot of time. That's true.
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3:45Papa Josh, you're on the microphone, right? I am.
3:48Do you know how many people are in the free Fantasy Footballers Discord right now?
3:53I do indeed. Give me one second to switch over there.
3:57And the number is 66,800. All right, that's not bad.
4:01Yeah, he pulled that one out. Yeah, I think he saved it.
4:0566,000 fantasy football players. I don't think you know what that phrase means.
4:09Mike is going to take issue with it? No, he doesn't.
4:13If you're like, hey, do you know this? And you're like, yeah, let me look it up real quick.
4:19That's not. He did it so fast, though, that it did feel like.
4:24No, no, no, no. Like it was on the tip of his tongue.
4:28No, it was not. BallersDiscord.com. It's a free community.
4:31A free fantasy football players that you can join.
4:3466,000 strong, Papa Josh? Don't forget the 800. 66,800.
4:37He could be 801. Oh, Jay, did you hear we're almost at?
4:41It's going to be 70? Oh, nice. All right, we're going to jump in right away here on the AFC East breakdown.
4:49And we'll kick it off with a couple of teams that have a lot of fantasy value for all of us fantasy football players.
4:57Let's get divisional. I mean, if I seem slightly off, Al, who are you laughing back there?
5:03I mean, we are fresh off the golf course.
5:06I mean, we are odorous. You guys are. I am covered in a mix of sunscreen and dirt.
5:12My hands feel like disgusting. I mean, we came in.
5:16We didn't even want. We're just here and ready to go.
5:19We thought it would go faster. Mike wanted to get this shot.
5:23Not a wee. Some of us were here grinding.
5:26Rise and grind. Mike didn't golf with us. I don't know why.
5:31But. What was the temperature? It was disgusting degrees.
5:34It was nice for the first hole. It was disgusting degrees outside.
5:38It was nice. No, it was. It was baloney.
5:41No, no, no. Look, I can't take heat. Relative.
5:44No, it was actually nice out this morning. And then it turned into hellfire.
5:49Just saying. So it was nice. We did leave the house at like 515 in the morning.
5:54Yeah. It was pretty nice at that point. It was nice for a period of.
5:59An hour. 15 minutes. An hour. Yeah, not that long.
6:03But anyways, we're just dehydrated. That's all I'm saying.
6:06Let's kick it off. Our breakdowns. We're looking at general overviews for these teams.
6:11Offseason changes. Coaches, players, rookies. How their offenses could function this year.
6:15Some of our takes on the win totals. We predict every division.
6:19A good prediction for the AFC East would be the Bills or the Patriots.
6:24Based on the last 17 years. Patriots won every single year from 2009 to 2019.
6:29Bills won the last five. And then last year the Patriots took it back.
6:33Even this last year. So we were looking at our predictions of how we did last year, this year.
6:40And immediately we looked because we all picked the Bills to win last year.
6:45And it wasn't highlighted as a win. And we were like, wait.
6:49Yeah, the Bills, they won. Yeah, we got that one.
6:52Oh, no. No, we didn't. The Super Bowl losers.
6:55Oh. Patriots, sorry. I mean. Could have called them like.
6:59Visitors. Super Bowl. Participants? Yeah, okay. Runner-ups. Yeah. This was the division with the largest point differential gap between second and third place teams.
7:07So the Bills were plus 116. The Dolphins were minus 77.
7:11And in third place. Oh, don't stop there. You should read the Jets one.
7:15Where were the Jets? Minus 203. Oh, boy. The haves and the have-nots.
7:20But we'll start with the Patriots. Wow. Patriots are going to be very, very interesting to project this year for fantasy.
7:27They were looking at a nine and a half game win total last year from Vegas.
7:32They went seven and three and one score games.
7:35They were the healthiest team in the NFL, so they had the fewest adjusted games lost.
7:41Their projected win total this year. You want to hear this?
7:45Mm-hmm. They won 14 games. They added A.J. Brown.
7:48Vegas has them at nine and a half wins.
7:51That is- It makes sense. I mean, you can say it's disrespectful, but it is mathematical.
7:56Last year, their schedule was cake. It was so easy that 14 wins was not- they're not like an average 14-win team.
8:04They went to the Super Bowl, so you're like, well, yes, they are.
8:08Yeah, but- Spencer Rattler, Cam Ward, Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco, Tyler Huntley, Brady Cook, Quinn Ewers.
8:14Yeah. Those were quarterbacks that they faced and defeated last year.
8:17And, you know, good on them. Not everyone- You're supposed to do that.
8:22You're supposed to win those games. So I don't want to do anything disrespectful here, but the schedule's going to get a lot harder.
8:30There's also the Super Bowl hangover for teams that lose the Super Bowl.
8:34It is tough the next season. So those two things combined with the fact that this is a young team, okay?
8:41So, you know, it was a magical season. You add that with all the off-season drama, Vrabel and all that.
8:48Like, this is going to be a difficult, you know, really test-your-metal season, I think, for the Patriots.
8:54Well, they start the year, just so you understand, the first six weeks, they go on the road against Seattle to start the year.
9:03That's probably the hardest matchup you could have in week one.
9:06Then they play Pittsburgh at home. Then they go on the road two more weeks at Jacksonville, at Buffalo.
9:13So the first four weeks of the year, they're underdogs in three games.
9:17So, yeah, they'll be put to the test immediately with a much more difficult start to the year.
9:23Then they get to play the Raiders and Jets at home, and that will maybe medicate the bad situation.
9:30But the first question for fantasy worries about Drake May, worries about regression for Drake May.
9:35This is a quarterback that was number one in completion percentage, number one in yards per attempt, number one in passer rating.
9:43Right now, he's at the fourth highest pass success rate of any quarterback through the first two years, behind Mahomes, Purdy, Dan Marino.
9:51Do you think he regresses for fantasy purposes? You'd love to say that A.J.
9:55Brown, Romeo Dobbs, those additions should ensure that he doesn't, but it's certainly a risk when you have different defenses you're playing.
10:03Yeah, a more difficult schedule. I think Drake May proved, I mean, he was the MVP runner-up.
10:09He proved he's elite. I think he's very, very good.
10:12Will he regress? And, you know, last year he was the quarterback three in fantasy.
10:17I think some of that happened to be gifted with some injuries.
10:21Obviously, Lamar was injured. Burrow was injured. So, you know, I feel like he was more like a quarterback five, and I
10:29think that's in the range of outcomes here. A.J.
10:32Brown coming is a huge deal for Drake May.
10:35He did not really have an alpha to throw to last year.
10:39He made it work. I think year two for Travion Henderson out of the backfield as well.
10:45You know, Ramon is really good catching the ball, but I do think that they will transition a little bit more to
10:52Travion in the passing game, and that will be more explosive.
10:56So, you know, I think more of the same for Drake May, but the same won't feel as good this year as
11:03it did last year because other players won't be injured.
11:07Sometimes I wonder when an alpha comes in here that is as demanding, vocal, as A.J.
11:12Brown. Sometimes I wonder if it serves the team or it doesn't when you had...
11:17I think it does early. Well, you had an offense that was very, like, the ball could go anywhere, right?
11:24It was Booty, it was Hooper, and it was Hunter Henry and Diggs, and it was spread around a lot.
11:31But it also means you have, you know, a great touchdown opportunity on a regular basis with A.J.
11:37Brown. I think mostly my opinion, projecting it in fantasy, I've pretty much played it like Drake May is going to roll it back.
11:45Like he's going to run it back with very similar output from a fantasy perspective.
11:50You know, they are a team, we've talked a lot about this, they're a great defense.
11:56And Vrabel's going to have a great defense. They were number two in points per game, number eight in yards per game.
12:03Something to keep in mind in some of those matchups.
12:07But, Mike, where did you project Drake May to finish?
12:10I still have him being a very solid fantasy player.
12:14But there's just, we know historically that he had a 6.3 touchdown percentage.
12:18Like, when you're up that high, it generally comes down by like a point or so, if not more.
12:24So, there's, it's not a, I don't think he has a flawless path to being a superstar for fantasy purposes.
12:31But, he looks like the real deal. Like the film stuff, his numbers are great.
12:36If you locked in Jaden Daniels or Drake May and you had to lock him in for the whole year?
12:43Man, if I had to lock in all year, probably Jaden.
12:47But, Jaden just is, Jaden's a higher ceiling but higher, or lower floor to me of things, you know.
12:53We saw it, the bottom could fall out. Like, do you guys make anything of, competition-wise, you get to the playoffs, you
13:01know, theoretically you're playing the best of the best.
13:04Drake May completed 58% of his passes in the playoffs.
13:07He had a, he threw six touchdowns and four interceptions.
13:11Like, those aren't prolific numbers. He took 21 sacks.
13:14Like, playoffs were not perfect for Drake May. I'm trying to remember all the matchups.
13:19I know they played Denver. I know they played Seattle.
13:22Did they play Houston? Remind me. Yeah, they beat the crap out of Houston.
13:27Isn't that the Stroud game? Kyle? Well, someone beat the crap out of Houston and was the Stroud game.
13:34That's for sure. I mean, that was, they went out.
13:37I'm just trying to think about, like, what would explain away some of that.
13:42And if you played three of the best four defenses in football, might have something to do with it.
13:48Well, that's the point of bringing that up. Chargers, Houston, Denver, Seattle.
13:52Yeah. Yeah. I'm bringing it up of, you're like, okay, well, if the, they're playing a more difficult schedule, you're going to have fewer cupcake games.
14:01Mm-hmm. Yeah. So is that something that people should be factoring in more?
14:05Or are we just, you know, whatever, wheels up, Drake May looks great.
14:10And the addition of A.J. Brown, can that eliminate some of the concerns with the schedule?
14:15Yeah, I think if I had a choice, I'd probably go with, uh, It's gonna be May.
14:21Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't know. Okay. I don't know.
14:25I've always hated that drop, so I tried to use it for my own, like, purposes.
14:30It didn't feel right at all. That's a late April.
14:33That's a late April drop. Yeah. I don't know.
14:36I like Drake May. I think the backfield will be, I think Mike would agree, it's gonna be frustrating.
14:43The backfield, I love hearing Jason being bullish on Travo.
14:46Like, I think he is a sensational player. I think that should he be given the keys, great things will happen for
14:54the team, great things will happen for fantasy football.
14:57But as we know, running back decisions are, that's who's on the field.
15:01And the coach puts the players on the field.
15:04And Vrabel, like, last year where you had the Henderson breakout happen, where you're getting all the production, it's incredible.
15:11And the fact that Ramondre goes right back in.
15:14And Ramondre was good. Like, this is not a, you know, I have to tell the truth of Ramondre's season.
15:21He was a solid player for the Patriots, and he was solid for fantasy football.
15:26The fact that they went back to him immediately, just that worries me for the ADP gap of, I'm not saying Henderson
15:34can't pay off at a fourth round price. But the risk you're taking of him in the fourth and Ramondre in the
15:41seventh when Ramondre is probably the starter for the first quarter of the season, at least.
15:47I don't know how everyone's going to break the pendulum down a little bit differently.
15:52But there's a, it's not like guaranteed that Henderson has a better fantasy year than Ramondre.
15:57And that says something for the fantasy decision making of that.
16:01The upside is tremendous with Travion, but there's no guarantee he's the better running back in this backfield, production-wise.
16:07That's definitely true. There is, in the range of outcomes, if they, you know, neither guy gets injured, Ramondre could be the
16:15goal lineback, could still be on the field more in passing situations and be the better pick.
16:21They do like him. Yeah, for sure. And he's under contract for at least, you know, he's under contract, I think, three
16:28more years, probably two on the team. However, I am very bullish on Henderson.
16:33He is the more explosive player. They spent the 38th pick on him, right?
16:38Then he goes out in his rookie season, gets 1,100 total yards and 10 touchdowns as a rookie.
16:44If you look at what happened on the snaps, so he started so slow.
16:49I mean, this was all Ramondre. They brought this rookie along slow.
16:53Then an injury forced him on the field, and he dominated.
16:56He dominated during that stretch. Ramondre comes back, and what we remember now is what happened in the playoffs where Ramondre took over.
17:04But the rest of the season, Ramondre was getting 11 opportunities a game when Ramondre and Trevo were there to Travion Henderson's 14 a game.
17:13Now, how do you explain that in the playoffs?
17:16We just talked about this. They played really good, unbelievable defenses where the offense was controlled and more game management.
17:23This was a smart decision by Vrabel. They got to the Super Bowl, but I think that it will flip.
17:29Last year on the total, this 1,100 yards and 10 touchdowns that we saw from Trevion, that was on 46% of the snaps.
17:37I think it's going to be 60-40 the other way.
17:41No, I don't agree with that at all. And that's absolutely fine.
17:45You don't have to agree with that. That's the bet.
17:48But if it is that, if it's 60-40 Trevo, Trevo will pay off on the fourth.
17:54Yes, that I agree with. And so you just have to decide for yourself, do you think Ramondre will be the leader of this timeshare?
18:02If so, Trevo's a terrible pick. A.J. Brown has arrived.
18:05We'll talk about the wide receiver room. I think that A.J.
18:09Brown is in the realm of players that can finish at number one at the position.
18:15We always ask that question, like, what's the true ceiling of the wide receiver position?
18:20Our consensus rank on A.J. Brown is number nine overall.
18:23But I would answer that question if you asked me, like, could he finish at one?
18:29I would say yes. I would say yes, too.
18:32I think it's going to be a brilliant year for him.
18:35It might be isolated to one New England year this year, you know, but I think he is a steal in drafts.
18:43He will demand the ball. He always has. Last year, people were down on him, down on the Eagles offense.
18:50Jalen Hurts wasn't that good at passing the ball.
18:53A.J. Brown missed a couple games. He was the wide receiver 10.
18:57Now you go to a team that has a pass rate way higher than the Eagles.
19:02They paid to get him. He is the guy.
19:05He's got, you know, a better quarterback situation throwing the ball.
19:09Drake May is a better passer than Jalen Hurts.
19:12I am all in on A.J. Brown. I'm completely with you.
19:16I think that where he's going right now in drafts is a great spot to take him.
19:22Second receiving target on this team, is it one of the other wide receivers or is it Hunter Henry?
19:28No, it's Dobbs. I mean, you know, long live the reign of Romeo Dobbs being the Patriots wide receiver one.
19:35We had a sweet couple months there. But lost, I think lost in the A.J.
19:40Brown stuff is that they gave Romeo Dobbs a good contract.
19:44And Romeo Dobbs is, I'm not saying he's an elite player, but he is a very capable wide receiver.
19:50Like, he was a stabilizer in Green Bay for years.
19:54You think eight weeks into the year he'll be on fancy rosters?
19:58I do. Okay. That's why I want to bring him up of that.
20:02He's, look, he's barely being drafted as a wide receiver four.
20:06And he's going to an MVP caliber quarterback that will have a ton of statistics.
20:11There's going to be, like, there's enough production to go to have it be a second player.
20:17Does Dobbs get enough consolidated targets? Like, is he up in the low 20s of the target share?
20:23Because if he is, then he's going to help rosters.
20:26Maybe he's not a league-winning type of player, but there's very, very few of those guys each and every year.
20:33So you need auxiliary players who can come in and be your wide receiver three or your flex play.
20:40And I think that Romeo Dobbs is in contention to be able to do something like that.
20:45Stephon Diggs was 21% of the targets. He's gone.
20:49Antonio Gibson's gone. And Austin Hooper is gone. I will just bring up Hunter Henry as the, I think the two most
20:56boring, sneaky tight ends you could play with the last pick of your draft are Hunter Henry and Dallas Goddard.
21:03Yeah. And Henry just, I mean, it blew my mind to look.
21:07He was the tight end six on the year with 768 yards and seven touchdowns.
21:12Just worth saying. I mean, Henry, he had a big role in the red zone.
21:17A.J. Brown will come in and be more of a role in the red zone.
21:22In the red zone. But Henry can give you a game here, there, in the right matchup when the opponent defense is bad against tight ends.
21:31In the red zone, he saw the first read 40% of the time.
21:35He's a good player. He's just solid. He's just solid.
21:39He's a good vet. He's a touchdown threat where a lot of these late tight ends are just, they're not going to
21:46have production and they won't have touchdowns either. I do think that the addition of A.J.
21:52Brown and Dobbs makes me less bullish. Like, he has always, for the last several years, been one of those, I'm at the last round of my draft.
22:01I need a tight end. I've always been fine taking Hunter Henry.
22:05He's probably not going to make that cut. I'd rather have Dallas Goddard in that situation.
22:11You know, ironically, A.J. Brown leaves one team, goes to the other.
22:15I'll take the one where the targets are vacated.
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23:02Coverage is subject to policy terms and limits. No, they didn't win the division, but they did go 12-5 and have a successful year once again.
23:11The Vegas win total last year was 11-1.5. They won 12 games.
23:15Yeah, 11-1.5. They won 12 games. There were 5-3 in one score games.
23:19They only had 5 games against teams with a winning record.
23:23So to bring that up, you've got to be fair with every team in this division.
23:28And they were very healthy on the offensive side of the ball.
23:33Not a lot of injuries there. Very injured on the defensive side of the ball.
23:38Their Vegas projected win total has gone down from 11-1.5 to 10-1.5 going into this year.
23:43Third in points per game, third in yards per game.
23:47The big move this offseason, a big change at head coach.
23:50Joe Brady, well, maybe not a big change, but a change, right?
23:54Yeah, it's still a change. McDermott is gone. Culture has changed.
23:58No more 9-11 analogies in the locker room. Oh, my gosh.
24:02Oh, man. That was real. It's funny because it became a meme and it was joked about.
24:08I wasn't going to bring it up, but that's all I think about.
24:12But it's like, it actually happened. Yeah, yeah. Well, Joe Brady's taken over.
24:16Pete Carmichael's the OC, but Joe Brady was. The OC and we'll have his fingerprints all over the.
24:23Like, that's good for fantasy for us. It is.
24:26When you look at, you know, the two main players on Buffalo that fantasy players care about.
24:31James Cook. Josh Allen. Those are the identity of the team.
24:35And when the head coach is the former offensive coordinator, you know that there's the stability.
24:41The expectation that this is going to be that run first team.
24:45The James Cook is going to have a huge role once again.
24:49The headline making move. DJ Moore acquired via trade.
24:52No more Brandon Cooks, Gabe Davis, Curtis Samuel on the, you know, the rotating offensive side of the football at wide receiver.
24:59But they also drafted Skylar Bell in the fourth round, worth mentioning.
25:03Are you expecting more of the same from this offense?
25:07And how early is too early for Josh Allen in a fantasy draft?
25:11I think Josh Allen is a good pick, like, period.
25:15So, if you take him, if you want to take him at the 2-3 turn, that's earlier than I would want to take him.
25:23That's earlier than he usually goes. I don't think it's a bad pick because Josh Allen has been so solid.
25:30I saw some statistics on the percentage of teams that make the playoffs with Josh Allen over the last several years.
25:37And it is an enormous number. And he's been drafted all over the place.
25:42A couple years ago, he was drafted even higher.
25:45He was a second-round pick. And people who drafted him made the playoffs.
25:49When he was a third-round pick, people who drafted him, they made the playoffs.
25:54It's like one of those, we're late-round quarterback, we want the value.
25:58That's all great, and that's a good strategy as well.
26:01But Josh Allen's so solid, I just don't think it's ever a bad pick to draft a guy that's going to score
26:09a ton of fantasy points in a game to score fantasy points.
26:13It's a pretty good strategy. Is James Cook a guaranteed first-round pick for you?
26:18He said basically double birds to the TD regression.
26:21Well, I mean, he could say that, but we got it.
26:24We did? The touchdown regression was massive. Two years ago, he had 207 carries and 16 rushing touchdowns.
26:31He had 12 rushing touchdowns this year on 309 carries.
26:34So the touchdown percentage. Yeah, no, we got it, guys.
26:37We smashed it. We got it. But he managed to find a way through.
26:42But then he got 100 more carries. He's one of the true workhorses.
26:47And he needs to be thought of that way in the same breath as the great ones out there.
26:53The B. Johns and CMCs, I think. The thought is just hitting me now.
26:58Because we were talking about last year, the conversation, there was a conversation of, like, okay, well, James Cook, 200 carries, like
27:05237 the year before, and then they give him the huge contract.
27:09And you're like, this only makes sense if you give him a bunch more volume, which he did, and he thrived.
27:17And I'm bringing this, just a quick callback of, like, the Alec Pierce discussion of when you give a player that level
27:24of contract, you better use that player. Or you look real, real dumb.
27:28And they did. And James Cook came through. And he's, yeah, he's an easy, safe, high upside, high floor pick.
27:3511 games of 80-plus rushing yards was the most in the NFL.
27:39Barely caught the football, but didn't need to. I mean, you felt it last year.
27:44If you look across your matchup and you saw James Cook on the other side, you went, oh, no.
27:51Well, he had breakaway runs, too. It was like, he was very explosive.
27:55That combo was great. DJ Moore gets reunited with Joe Brady, who was his offensive coordinator in Carolina.
28:01That's one thing. Like, I'm going to try to talk more positively about DJ Moore.
28:07Because I want to try and, because we've been.
28:10Make the case for both sides. We've been pretty negative on DJ Moore.
28:14Because, look, the case for that is, it's very easy.
28:17He's 29, year eight in the NFL. He was bad last year.
28:22He was bad last year. He's changing teams at a late point into his career.
28:27That's not generally something that works out. But he is going back to a coach who he's played for.
28:33And Joe Brady, in March, guys, let's see if you agree with this quote.
28:38Joe Brady said, five years, it's a long time.
28:41But the player I saw on the 2025 tape wasn't any different.
28:45I didn't see any drop off. Then he wasn't watching much.
28:49Well, I think I understand it because the DJ Moore the last couple of years in Chicago has been a DJ Moore
28:56that makes a just out of nowhere outstanding great play.
29:00Just wasn't a focal point of the offense. When he was with Joe Brady in Carolina, 1,100 yards, four touchdowns, 1,100 yards, four touchdowns.
29:08If they want to make him that. I guess I'm just trying to say, like, if you could give a three-sentence summary
29:15of the bull case for DJ Moore. Because at this point.
29:19That's also easy. In the sixth round, you're not paying the Diggs arrives in Buffalo price.
29:25Well, that was actually super cheap, too. Yeah, because we didn't like John Shalem.
29:29Stefan Diggs was like a six-round pick. Yes. It was a very similar situation.
29:34The question is whether or not DJ Moore still got it.
29:38If he does, the range of outcomes, like we said with A.J.
29:42Brown, what is the best-case scenario? The best-case scenario is he is their alpha target.
29:47He has 150 targets. If he has 150 targets, then you're talking about a guy who, from Josh Allen, he's a wide receiver one.
29:55You know, I don't think if he's up near 30% target share, he's falling to a wide receiver two.
30:02So he is not a terrible pick if you want to take a bet on the Bills offense.
30:08I won't be doing that. I think I just have too much of odds on him not being necessary for this offense, having his good games, being involved.
30:17But, I mean, we're going back multiple years now where Josh Allen's been great, the offense has been great, and they didn't
30:25really need one wide receiver to carry the load.
30:28Yeah, I mean, we've been excited about Shakir Coleman, Cooks, Curtis Samuel before, like Amari Cooper when he arrived.
30:34I think we have been excited about a bunch of names that we think could become the next Diggs.
30:41But no one was good enough. So that's the question.
30:44And I think most of us would say we don't know if DJ Moore has that enough.
30:50I mean, it's just like the Chiefs. No one's been good enough.
30:54Dalton Kincaid, Adam to the list, by the way, of players with high expectations that have never become a focal point.
31:01For DJ Moore, this was, I recall talking about the post-mortem looking back on Stephon Diggs.
31:07I was wrong the Stephon Diggs year because I was so out on Josh Allen making the best turnaround a quarterback in the NFL has ever seen.
31:16Got that one wrong. But looking back at it was the risk was baked into the ADP.
31:22You know, there's other guys who are in the sixth round that I, so there is an opportunity cost.
31:28There's players in that area that I really love.
31:31But it's like if you're in on DJ Moore at all, it's, he's wide receiver 32 and he finished as the wide receiver 33 last year.
31:40Like, so it's all just inherently in there that you are, you're, you're not, it's not like a, AJ Brown's a second round pick.
31:48Right. Yeah, you, you, you don't have to pay a lot.
31:52For the player who, he has to be the number one wide receiver.
31:56I feel like we had the nicest conversation we've definitely ever had about DJ Moore this offseason, which was nice of us.
32:04He got to, like, so they're favored. You got to look at what, where could you be wrong in your analysis?
32:11They're favored in five of their first six games, but I will say there's some tough defensive matchups in there.
32:18They start against Houston in Houston. They play New England in week four.
32:22They play against the Rams in that defense in Los Angeles in week five.
32:27So I think it's a pretty level start to the year, even though they're favored in five of six.
32:33One last follow up there, Dalton Kincaid. Yes, that's, I didn't want you to move on before talking about Kincaid.
32:40Yeah, I'm not going to move on without talking about him.
32:44I think it's an important conversation for this year because he is very affordable.
32:49I think he's going to be in double-digit rounds.
32:52No one really wants him. He's just been viewed mostly as a bust for his career, even though he was very exciting coming in.
33:00He's just dealt with injuries. His lingering, his PCL, I think, that he really struggled with all last year.
33:06Oh, boy, camstring, camstring, knee. It all came from this knee injury.
33:11He kept getting multiple opinions whether he needs surgery or not.
33:14Last year, he finished as the tight end 15, okay?
33:18He played 27% of the Bills' snaps, offensive snaps.
33:21I mean, he was really not on the field.
33:24Even in the games that he played, it was only 38% of snaps.
33:28I just did a little research report on his current health, and he took multiple doctor visits.
33:34All of them said he didn't need surgery, so he rehabbed.
33:38I think it's the same doctors from last year.
33:41No, no, no. What I was saying earlier was actually from this offseason.
33:45The most recent reports is talking from him that he feels the best he's felt in forever.
33:51He hasn't even thought about it. The knee is no longer an issue for him right now.
33:57Not that it can't come up again, but it's great because all last year, it was an issue for him every single game the whole year.
34:06That's why his snaps were so limited. But on a yards per route run basis, he was the best.
34:12He led all tight ends. So if he's actually healthy in what we've seen the last couple years is- A little sleeper candidate?
34:20Yeah, a little sleeper candidate tight end. If you're in the end of your draft and you don't have one, I would,
34:27in double digits, round 11, I'd pull the trigger.
34:31All right, let's take a break, and we'll come back with the Dolphins.
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35:26All right, guys, I know you've been dying to talk about the Dolphins.
35:30Their projected win total last year was 8.5. They went 7-10.
35:34Their projected win total this year is an abysmal 4.5.
35:37When you look at the players subtracted from this team, it is just reading the offense to you.
35:43Players subtractions. Tua, Tyreek, Waddle, Westbrook Akine, Darren Waller.
35:46Quarterbacks and pass catchers. Let's take Mike McDaniel as well.
35:50Yeah, and your head coach. Your offensive genius of a head coach.
35:54The offense was nuked. They are playing for 2027.
35:57Obviously, they brought in... Haefeli. Yep. They brought in the Packers.
36:01All entirely. Like the Packers backup guys, they became the new starters here, including their backup quarterback.
36:06Their player additions list includes Jalen Tolbert, Tutu Atwell, and Terrace Marshall Jr., all three of which are considered mediocre at best.
36:14They added Caleb Douglas in the draft in the third round, Chris Bell in the third round.
36:20It's hard to have high expectations of those guys, but if you want...
36:24Like, you know what you have in Tolbert, Atwell, and Terrace Marshall.
36:28Which is nothing. Is that what you mean? Yeah, and Malik Washington.
36:32And so, you look at this ensemble of options, and you say, well, there's just nobody I would pick.
36:39Maybe one of them will help Malik be relevant, but I can't pick one.
36:44I had Kyle look into... Because they are an NFL team.
36:47They will throw... Yeah, they have to play four quarters.
36:51They have to play four quarters every game. So, the fact that right now no one is being drafted a wide receiver
36:58in the top 36, it's like, well, one of them has to emerge, right?
37:03So, I had him look at teams that were healthy.
37:06Because every year you've got... Maybe the best wide receiver on the team was wide receiver 60 because the healthiest wide receiver played eight games.
37:15There's plenty of examples in history where a healthy wide receiver has absolutely nothing of relevance.
37:20And this is a very predictable one of those.
37:23If you want to take a shot on one of their rookies, Caleb Douglas or Chris Bell, to have a surprise breakout, okay.
37:31But I'm not going to. Yeah, it's just a tough sell on the offensive side of the football outside of...
37:38Devon HN. Which, you know, on one hand, you're like, well, this offense is going to struggle.
37:44They're not projected to win a lot of games.
37:47That's not good for running backs. Well, the offense struggled.
37:50They didn't win a bunch of games. And he was there last year.
37:55That's it, you know. But this is the... They're set up for Warren Sharpe's second toughest schedule of 2026.
38:01They're coming off a year where I just deleted their five best offensive players.
38:06And they were 25th in yards per game last year.
38:09It's hard to make a strong case for them winning a lot of football games.
38:14Hopefully, they can win some fantasy football games with some spot starts from Malik Willis, who is a very mobile quarterback.
38:22That is a superpower. I think it's a QB stash late in drafts.
38:26You can look to Green Bay, the scramble rate, 14.5%.
38:29He ran for 41, 73, and 60 yards in his three starts.
38:34That's incredible. I mean, if you do that over the course of a year, it's big numbers.
38:39But it is going to feel a little bit like Malik and A-Chan against the world, I think, at least in my view.
38:47So where are you at with A-Chan? Because he is an early second-round pick.
38:52So you're talking... This is a foundation of your roster.
38:55You can't miss... Like, you don't want to miss on your second-round pick.
39:00It puts you in a huge hole. He's a great player.
39:03Last year, 40% of his production came from receiving.
39:07And that's not what historically Malik has done. We have a different quarterback, which, you know, mobile quarterbacks, you lose a couple targets here and there.
39:15You also don't have... When you have a quarterback like Tua, you know that you're going to get a bunch of checkdowns.
39:23It's like the Phillip Rivers. You have certain quarterbacks who this is what they do.
39:28It's part of their M.O. I don't have fear.
39:31Okay. And that's your... I have him ranked very high.
39:34And part of it is... Go look at the game log last year.
39:39They had games go sideways all over the place.
39:42This was the most consistent running back in football.
39:45You know what his consistency ranking is? 100%. 100%.
39:48So every game he played... What's funny about that is our metric for that, for a running back, is you want to hit 10.5 fantasy points a game.
39:58He did that 100% of his games. His lowest score all year was 11.3.
40:02I mean, he was basically 15 points a game every single game.
40:06Unfathomably consistent last year. There's just some things that he possesses, in my opinion, that make him more invulnerable to bad games.
40:14One, was the receiving work? Yes. Maybe that is a variable that is going to be a problem.
40:20Two, it's the big plays. It's the long runs.
40:23The 49-yard touchdown. The 46-yard touchdown. The 59-yard touchdown.
40:26The 48-yard touchdown. 39, 29, 23. When you can make a big play...
40:31I mean, they lost games 33-8. He's a running back 10 in that game.
40:35I mean... I am... 45-20. He's a running back 15.
40:39I know that it's not going to stay this good, but I just believe in the player's talent.
40:45And then the other part of that conversation is...
40:48I don't like Atlanta's offense, but I like Bichon.
40:51The... We went over the wide receivers. I think Malik Washington is at least interesting as a complete and total dart throw
40:59at the very, very end of late drafts. But last year, you lose Tyreek, but you had Waddle for the majority of the season.
41:07You have a true number one wide receiver that the teams have to worry about.
41:12If they have no one at the pass-catching position that you have to worry about, and you can completely focus on H-N...
41:19I definitely worry about H-N. I think the talent is totally something you can bet on.
41:25The opportunity is something you can bet on. When those two things come together, I'm not going to say that he's going to be a bust.
41:34But where he is going in drafts feels like he's going ahead of Gentian, Hampton, and most ADP right now.
41:40I would not... I would prefer those other guys personally.
41:44Yeah, I would take them all the way. Right, and so he might stay there.
41:49I do think... Last year, he had 12 total touchdowns.
41:52I couldn't possibly project him to get 12 total touchdowns on this offense.
41:57I can't possibly project him to receive the same targets that he had with Tua, with Malik.
42:03So it's not going to be as good as last year.
42:06It's not. But he is super talented, and he will get so much more.
42:11He had 12 the year before as well. Yeah.
42:14Well, they were a good offense two years ago.
42:17Two straight years. I just think the challenge for you is going to be like this team, how many total touchdowns do they score on the year?
42:26Exactly. Right, but if it's 30, try giving them to somebody else.
42:30That's the hard part in the projection thing is this offense, they paid him.
42:35I mean, he got the big check this offseason.
42:38They're going to be a weird team. They are going to be a very, very weird team to see if we can find fantasy value.
42:47You can't look at an offense that's projected for four and a half wins and not say there's not some risk with
42:54HN, even though he's been that good. But I do think he's in the same tier to me, talent-wise, as Gibbs, B.
43:02John, those guys. And Greg Dulcich, for goodness sake.
43:05Okay, I was going to bring it up. Did you want to say something else on HN?
43:11I mentioned Dalton Kincaid was at 2.73 yards per route run, hyper-efficient.
43:15Part of that is the low snaps. Greg Dulcich, on very low snaps as well, 2.38 yards per route run.
43:22And then they bring him back. He is their best receiver outside of HN.
43:26Unless Chris Bell. Like, Chris Bell was supposed to be a first-round wide receiver who tore his knee, right?
43:33Yeah. His knee just tore it right off. Made Dan Campbell proud.
43:37Oh! Oh! Whoa! That drop did not work very well the last time.
43:41Was it last applied to Le'Veon? I think so.
43:44That was a long time ago. That's a bell toll for the player who...
43:49I'm staring at some old drops here, guys. You know how many folders I had to go in for that?
43:56Yeah. That's in there. You had to go to the Le'Veon bell folder.
44:00That's in there with... Also... I believe you've met my fitness consigliere, Michel.
44:05Sony Michel? Sony Michel. Yeah, that's some old... Oh.
44:08There's some old stuff. Some old stuff in there.
44:11AJ Dillon, all right. Well, we got to get some new drops here.
44:15I think Dulcich is a great sleeper pick. I do.
44:19I agree. You're going to be coming from behind in almost every game you play.
44:24They are... The first five games of the year, road game against the Raiders, road game against the Niners, Kansas City, Minnesota,
44:31Cincinnati, LLLL potential to start the year. Well, it's like profile-wise, super athletic.
44:36I was dressed up as him for Halloween. He's a super athletic player that matters at the tight end position.
44:43And very strong chance he's the number one receiving option.
44:46Other than the running back. You know, odds are very, very against him.
44:50But these types of players, they pop up. Yep.
44:53No, I think that he is one of the more interesting names on a team that seems mostly uninteresting.
45:00Speaking of the Jets, 3-14 last year with a projected win total of 5.5.
45:05Oh, man. 3-5 in one score games. You guys remember the dance?
45:09Yeah. By... By coach. Oh, and then they lost the game?
45:12And then they lost the game. Oh, my God.
45:16The vibes are better this year than they were last year.
45:19The Jets were tight or trailing in 93% of their snaps.
45:23They lost by 11.5 points a game. Their schedule looks much better, but the projected win total is the same.
45:305.5. Brutal division that nobody's won in how many?
45:3317 years? Is that what I said? Other than the Patriots and Bills?
45:37Yeah. The Jets haven't won in forever. Is it?
45:40So the Jets have not been... Their last playoff appearance was 2010, which that puts them...
45:46They're like the longest wait. The Falcons are 2017.
45:49Like, 2010 is incredible. That's 16 years. That seems impossible.
45:52And yet... What? Get it together, man. They didn't make the playoffs with Favre?
45:57Well, I mean, the last appearance, I think, was...
46:00Wow. Sanchez in 2010, right? Sanchez was after Favre.
46:03We're old, right? I guess so, man. Holy moly.
46:06When did Brett Favre play? The Jets' last win was Sanchez.
46:10Yeah. January 16th, 2011. Yeah, Favre was 2008. Oh, wow.
46:139-7. Sanchez threw three touchdown passes to beat the Patriots 28-21.
46:17Crazy. Oh, Mangini was the coach. You guys remember Eric Mangini?
46:21It was Rex with Sanchez. Yes, it was. Yeah, yeah.
46:24But, man. But I do remember Eric Mangini. Yeah.
46:27Well, what a great intro for this team. He was great, and then he just took park carburetors and went to work as a mechanic, I assume.
46:37Just based on looks. Oh, my gosh. I didn't see Mangini slander coming up on today's episode.
46:42He looked like a mechanic to you? You can't pass up your opportunity to dunk on Eric Mangini.
46:48That's double A, MCO. Offensive rank, 29th in points per game, 29th in yards per game.
46:54Defensive rank, 31st in points per game. Aaron Glenn did such a good job that he did the worst job possible.
47:01And then he fell on his sword by cutting everyone else with his sword.
47:06It was him. It was you. It was you.
47:09It was you. He blamed everyone. He said someone call an ambulance, but not for me.
47:14I mean, dude. How about the 64-year-old? He massacred his coach.
47:18He massacred them. That's your fault. You suck. Get out of here.
47:22You're fired. Heads had to roll after last year, and it wasn't going to be his.
47:28I can't believe he kept his job. I can't believe this guy got another job.
47:33Frank Reich, 64 years old, the oldest OC in the NFL.
47:36The last two times we saw him at the NFL level, I thought the league had passed him by.
47:43But there are those out there that look at Reich and say, look, this is an NFL-level offensive coordinator that should be
47:50able to put his players in the best position to succeed.
47:54Do you know who those people are, Andy? Jets fans?
47:58No. Oh. These are people who have had Garrett Wilson on their dynasty roster the whole time.
48:03Yeah. And each and every year, we have to look at the idiotic moves that the Jets have made, and we have
48:11to convince ourselves that our superstar wide receiver will actually get a chance.
48:15When 64-year-old Frank Reich last had opportunities, he had the lowest motion rate on dropbacks of any play caller.
48:22Because motion, that's not a big part of the game today, right?
48:26Mike, how does that make you feel? Motion and play action?
48:30Your eyes rolled into the back of your head.
48:33Look, I'm not a NFL coach. I am not a college or high school coach.
48:38But you pay attention to what the good coaches do.
48:41But I know what the good offenses do. They do a lot of play action because we've got to establish the run.
48:49No, you don't. You just have to fake it.
48:52It just works. And so does motion. Like, these things matter.
48:55You have to pay attention to what's going on in the NFL.
48:59Kyle, give me the top. I'll give you a second.
49:03But give me the top three teams in motion rate.
49:06I'm just curious. That will be fascinating. Give me those numbers.
49:10I bet it won't take you long to find them.
49:13New additions. Kenyon Sadiq, 16th pick in the draft.
49:17Omar Cooper Jr., 30th pick in the draft. Two offensive weapons.
49:20Two first-rounders. This is how bad the Jets are.
49:23That a super athletic, exciting tight end. A first-round wide receiver off a national championship team.
49:29And we're like, meh. I have little to no interest.
49:32I think that this offense is interesting. I am interested in the Jets offense.
49:37Now, I have little to no interest in those two specific rookies because of how they're going to be used in the offense as a whole.
49:46But this defense is not good. Geno Smith can at least accumulate stats.
49:50We don't mind interceptions, you know, in fantasy football.
49:53Jameis was king of providing us a lot of passing yards.
49:57I do think with the weapons they have, with Brees Hall, with Garrett Wilson, the new additions of these two rookies, their offensive line is a little better.
50:07The offense should vary, you know, maybe not to the level that the Cardinals at the second half of last year is
50:14a terrible team, but just that could actually go and score.
50:18I see potential for the Jets offense this year in fantasy.
50:22Like, I'm pretty in on Garrett Wilson. Are you in on Brees?
50:26And Brees, it depends on where he is in the draft.
50:29That really – I like Brees at a point, but I think he has limited upside.
50:353-10? Do you like him at 3-10? RB-15 off the board?
50:39Yeah. The 3-4 turn, I think that's an appropriate spot.
50:42Message for Frank Reich. The top five coaches, offensive coordinators in motion rate.
50:46Since 2021. Mike McDaniel. Okay. Great offense. Considered an offensive genius.
50:50Ben Johnson. Oh, yeah. KOC. Mm-hmm. Last year sucked, but – But overall.
50:55But overall, great offense. Mostly winning teams here. Shane Steichen.
50:58Turned it around. And Sean McVay. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.
51:01I don't want to do it. I don't want him to move.
51:05Put your feet in the concrete. I'll tell you who would run zero motion.
51:10Kyle Borginoni. Oh, really? Yeah. Because he's like, oh, it's what the good people do?
51:15I won't do it. Oh, a contrarian take. Yeah.
51:18Just firing such a Kyle. Just Frank Reich, handshake, Kyle Borginoni.
51:22Right? I bring that up because – He was the Frank Reich of our company.
51:27I bring that up because Meowson Taylor remains on the New York Jets.
51:31Very famous second-round pick, Mason Taylor, who we discussed at length.
51:35And I may have referred to him – Was that nickname of the year?
51:40It had to be. It had to have been.
51:43Because, like, I brought that up because I'm like, I watched Mason Taylor.
51:47I don't see any dog. This dude doesn't – he catches and he falls down.
51:52That plays out over the course of an NFL season where he fails to force a single missed tackle.
51:59This is – and he's a featured part of the office.
52:03He's not trying to. I bring the – Obviously.
52:06I bring this up because now Kyle's like, I'm rooting for Mason Taylor.
52:10And I'm like, what are you doing? With Sadiq arriving?
52:14Yeah, I don't know. It's just Kyle. Now he's an underdog?
52:17It's just Kyle. The case for Breeze Hall, look, more scoring opportunities would go a long way.
52:23It was fourth in explosive run rate on a bad, bad, bad, bad team.
52:2847th in touchdown rate. It's not too different than the can HN survive in Miami to the can Breeze Hall survive in New York.
52:36They're going to just be key cogs of the offense.
52:39Both got paid this offseason. Both teams committed to them as their main running back.
52:44So, look, I like my running backs to be on winning teams.
52:49But everybody's got a call. Or featured. Or featured.
52:52Or a featured back that can catch the football.
52:55And Breeze can do that. Yeah, he can. But, I mean – I'm not worried about Braylon Allen or Isaiah Davis.
53:02I'm not worried about them as players. I am worried about their coach making stupid decisions and being like – Which one?
53:09The head coach or Reich? Both, honestly. But, I mean, even last year it didn't work out.
53:15We didn't get to see exactly how it was going to shake out because Braylon Allen got hurt very quickly.
53:22But Glenn continually talked about, I want to use three running backs.
53:26I want to use three. And he still has said that.
53:30Yeah, that's annoying. I agree. And when you get into the game, we always say you can have your plan, but then
53:37eventually you've got to get your best players out there.
53:41But it is a concern. But it is also – it's factored into the ADP of Breeze.
53:46Now, Sadiq, we've – during the draft process, we were not as bullish on Sadiq.
53:52But he is not by any means a bad prospect.
53:55This is a really good prospect, super athlete. I feel like I was very neutral.
54:00You were not a fan of his tape compared to, like, Stowers.
54:04Well, I was not a fan of his tape compared to his projected and official draft capital.
54:10Yeah, because he was like a top ten potential pick.
54:13Yeah, exactly. And you're like, you didn't think that belonged to him.
54:17Correct. But I do think he is very talented.
54:20He's got a 95th percentile Felix score. So this is someone that needs to be remembered and looked at.
54:27If you want to take a shot in – I don't know where he's going in drafts right now, but this would
54:34be – I mean, not drafted, basically. Yeah, so then your last round, if you want to take a swing on this.
54:42Geno obviously has thrown to the tight ends. Frank Reich has had a lot of success with tight ends in some of his systems.
54:50They spent a lot of capital on him. So it's weird for me to be, you know, saying don't forget about the rookie tight end.
54:59It's a little off-brand, but you shouldn't. You should be off.
55:02You should be off-brand. I'm going to jump in real quick.
55:06Mason Taylor did not win nickname of the year.
55:09Oh. Okay. This guy did. Oh. But Mason Taylor did take home a footy for a new category.
55:15Oh, that's right. The Meow Man of the Year.
55:18Meow. So he took that home. Yeah, he was the only one nominated, but he did take it home.
55:25Here's what I will say. He ran unopposed. It's a small distraction, but in the vein of Sadiq, the rookie tight ends.
55:32The news right now out of Philadelphia is that Stowers is firmly third on the tight end.
55:38Oh, yeah. I didn't know Stowers is not on the radar.
55:42It's one of the reasons why we've talked so much.
55:45We know Devontae Smith is going to be heavily involved in that offense, but my goodness, Dallas Goddard is going to be involved in that offense.
55:54Yeah. It's not a name anybody wants to be excited about, but Stowers is not a part of the picture, and Goddard
56:02has always benefited when one of those wide receivers was out, and it's just worth throwing out there.
56:08No, I love that. We can talk about it again when we get to the NFC.
56:13Garrett Wilson, where are you with his ADP? Right now, I'm seeing wide receiver 17 around there in the middle of the fourth.
56:21I adore it. Okay. Oh. Yeah. I'm pretty bullish.
56:24I have Garrett Wilson right now as my wide receiver 12, so he sneaks in at a wide receiver one.
56:31I believe that this offense and defense combination. Nothing you can say to take me away.
56:36The offense-defense combination and the passing game upgrade over the quarterback of last year.
56:41Nobody likes Geno more than you this year. Yeah, I mean- You are so into Geno.
56:46It's not that I think Geno is good. Mm-hmm.
56:50It's that Geno is Jacoby Brissett. He is totally fine to throw- That's what you're hoping for.
56:55That's what I expect. Okay, I'm just saying like Geno was not Jacoby Brissett when he played football last year.
57:02Yeah, but Geno has support- He was too rash.
57:05Like he supported enough- You know, look at how he targeted Gentty.
57:09Obviously, Brock Bowers when he was playing. When Brock was playing, he was great.
57:14Yeah. He has a very limited sample there. But the statement- But the Jets believe in him, and I don't know if that's a good sign.
57:23Every single year, you're like, oh, well, he's playing with the best quarterback that he's been able to play with.
57:30For Garrett? Yeah. Well, guys like this, that often comes up.
57:33Justin Fields. Geno is more capable for fantasy production than Justin Fields was.
57:38Yeah, because he's going to throw him more. Yes.
57:41That's what I mean. And Garrett Wilson, to start last year, it's lost to all of time.
57:47Garrett Wilson was awesome for fantasy football. There was tons of tons of garbage.
57:52Do you guys realize something special? I realize so many special things.
57:56The New York Jets or the Tennessee Titans are starting the year 1-0.
58:00No. Nice. Because they're facing each other in week one.
58:03So the Titans or the Jets- Where is it?
58:06Tennessee? It's in Tennessee. So the Jets are underdogs against Tennessee.
58:10Then they play Green Bay at home. Then Detroit.
58:13Then Chicago. Then Cleveland. Then New England. Oh! Oh!
58:16Mercy! They could be 2-4. How do you think Geno's- They could be 0-6.
58:21How many- I want to put this down on the board somewhere.
58:25Six weeks into the year, I want the interception total with that gauntlet of a schedule for Geno Smith.
58:32Okay. And let me- Let's inform this a little bit because we didn't talk about him too much.
58:38Geno Smith, the newly minted quarterback of the New York Jets last year.
58:42I got my number. And the year with, just for, what did I say, the first six weeks?
58:48Mm-hmm. His first six weeks last year, if you put them out over the year, he would have been on pace for 28 picks and 51 sacks taken.
58:58Nice. Okay. So four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten interceptions in his first six last year.
59:04Give me the number. I'm going to say eight through his first six.
59:08Yeah, I'll go under 10. I'll say six. Okay.
59:11Give me seven. Give me seven picks. For Geno Smith.
59:15There you go. There's your Jets. Is this? What do you got?
59:19I'm trying to look up the Jets total passing yards as an offense last year, and I'm seeing 2,300.
59:25That can't be- Well, that can't be right. Do you remember who led the New York Jets in receiving yards?
59:32No. Garrett Wilson. Oh, but he didn't play the whole year.
59:36He played seven games. Oh, my gosh. 395 yards.
59:39Justin Fields, Tyrod Taylor, Brady Cook. Did he throw for 2,385 yards?
59:432,385. 2,385. 2,385. What? Yeah, Geno's an upgrade. Yeah.
59:46He is. Geno can beat that. He's an upgrade.
59:49That doesn't mean he's good. No, exactly. Geno's not good.
59:52Low 3,000s. I mean, Geno was on pace for 3,500 last year.
59:56There you go. Threw for 4,300 the year prior.
59:59If he gets 3,000. Things are looking up, guys.
60:03I mean, 2,300 for an NFL franchise. They get 17 games.
60:06What? That's insane. Garrett Wilson. This will be fun.
60:09No way to close the show. You ready? Quarterbacks Garrett Wilson has caught a touchdown from it.
60:15You ready for this? This is exactly what we're talking about.
60:19Tyrod Taylor. One time. Pro bowler. Tim Boyle. Mike White.
60:22Zach Wilson. He was awesome with Mike White, actually.
60:25By the way, this is- Top three in the NFL draft pick.
60:29Yeah. Zach Wilson threw two to him. Joe Flacco.
60:33Aaron Rodgers threw six. Yeah. He played with Strevler.
60:36He played with Trevor Simeon. He played with Brady Cook.
60:39Is he cursed? What have they done? What have they done to my boy?
60:44Just giving him a lot to handle. All right.
60:47Divisional predictions. I like this one. I know mine.
60:50I'm going Buffalo, New England, the Jets, and Miami.
60:53That is exactly what mine is as well. I will go Buffalo, New England, Miami, Jets.
60:58Okay. There you go. We conquered the incredible AFC East and all those four juggernauts.
61:03Just New York. Get serious. Like, have a heart-to-heart with each other.
61:08Their break from playoff appearances is seven years to the next closest team.
61:12I know there's management. I know there's people in suits.
61:15And these people in suits sit at a big table, probably with real fancy glass holding them in this room.
61:22Have a serious conversation. Get real. The name, the Jets, there's not, like, jet exhaust pumped into those rooms that is throwing them off or anything, is there?
61:32There's something going on. They belong in that. Stop cashing checks and win some games.
61:37They belong in the special club with us, the Cardinals and the Browns.
61:41And right, I mean, working their way really hard to get into that group is the Falcons.
61:47Let me say that. Falcons are the second longest drought from a playoff.
61:51Yeah, the difference is the Falcons usually get close to the playoffs most years.
61:56They're like, they're never, you know, they're winning seven games, like, all the time.
62:01The Jets, when they're bad, they're often, I mean, they're...
62:04Winless type of season? Yeah, they're just putrid. If you had to bet your house on Aaron Glenn being the starting...
62:12Oh, no. I would, oh, I would double up whatever.
62:15Whatever. I mean, Aaron Glenn being the coach in 2027 is an impossibility.
62:19It's impossible that he is... Even with all those numbers Gino puts up for him?
62:24I... If Aaron Glenn is the coach in week 18, I will be blown away.
62:30That one I can see because maybe they just want to keep losing.
62:34I don't know. Yeah. They're... I think they're with the Cardinals.
62:38They're going to be doing what they can. I'm saying...
62:41Yeah. Not the players, not the coaches, but the up top they're going to be trying to lose.
62:47As a Cardinals fan, I just need the Jets and the Dolphins to go one-on-one against each other.
62:53It's very important. We have our goals. It is very important.
62:57AFC West on our next episode. Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, and Raiders.
63:01And then on Thursday, we'll be tackling a mock draft episode before getting into the NFC Divisional Breakdowns.
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