0:00It's the Harris Fantasy Football Podcast with your host Christopher Harris.
0:04Welcome! Hey everybody, welcome in. My name is Chris and this is a show with bestsellers involved.
0:09More on that in a moment. What is going on?
0:13You children of the possum, how the heck are you?
0:16Thank you so much for continuing to make this very stupid show a part of your day.
0:22It is truly my honor to get to talk with so many of you and to have met a bunch of you out on the book tour.
0:31I'll talk about that in a few minutes. We really do have big news in the land of Pound Foolish, but I
0:39know that some of you have an itchy fast-forward finger.
0:42We are going to talk football first. We really didn't get too much NFL news that we can use in advance of
0:49fantasy drafts over the past couple of days. On the Yacht Club show yesterday, Andy Behrens and I did have a conversation
0:57about the biggest ADP changes and movers over the past week or so.
1:01And whether there's something that we can apply in our Labor Day weekend drafts.
1:06The biggest change we talked about, the biggest change I made in my ranks, is to get maybe back in a little bit on Alec Pierce.
1:15He jumped up in my ranks with the news that he's practicing and the Colts simply seem to be preparing that he'll be ready to go week one.
1:24I now have Pierce 67 overall standard, 75 PPR, kind of like right in front of where I'm taking Brian Thomas.
1:31That's the neighborhood. And you know, I have so many good friends who do this very stupid show that I also do.
1:39And I called on them this week so that I could make some appearances on other shows and spread the word a
1:46little bit about this podcast and also about Pound Foolish.
1:50Truly, I want to say thanks to Pat and Denny from Rotowire and Dave Kluge from Football Guys, Jeff Erickson from Rotowire, Matt Harmon from Yahoo.
1:58I did their shows Tuesday and Wednesday. Today I'll be doing Jake Seeley from The Athletic Show and Matt Waldman from Football Guys.
2:06You could not ask for better friends. And the reason I thought to mention it is because I truly can't remember which
2:14show I was doing when we talked about Alec Pierce.
2:17But on one of them, the host said, you know, I hear you that he's a riser, but I have some reservations because of course they do.
2:26Because, you know, it sounds like Pierce's ankle was a mess and he certainly could be one more hit away from another ankle problem.
2:34And then, yeah, like the question of if what else the Colts have in that receiving core seems to be short area
2:42passing weapons like Tyler Warren and Keenan Allen and Josh Downs.
2:45Well, maybe Pierce gets kind of thrown into the deep role again and doesn't get any of the easy targets, only the difficult stuff.
2:54I think that's a smart point. Who's going to inherit those Michael Pittman targets?
2:58It's a good question. And also Daniel Jones coming back from his big injury.
3:03And so if someone expresses doubt about Pierce, I get it.
3:07I just think the price is still likely to be reasonable this weekend on Alec Pierce.
3:12I'm looking at the Fantasy Pros real-time ADP. I'm seeing it 89th overall, 8th round.
3:17Last week, before we got good news, I would probably have said that there's a bunch of better receivers you could probably
3:25take a shot on in the 8th round and not, you know, quote-unquote, waste an 8th round pick on Alec Pierce.
3:32Even weighing those negative considerations that still exist that are not health-related, I gotta say that price starts to be pretty...
3:39You know, I want good players. Pierce really grew in my estimation last year.
3:44I think he turned into a pretty good player.
3:47Certainly has a chance to get off to a slow start, considering he hasn't done anything in training camp or practice or anything.
3:54But that's a price that I can get behind if he's playing.
3:58I don't have to use him. You know, if he hadn't had this problem, if he had been a participant in training
4:06camp, where do we think he would have gone?
4:09Fifth round. I don't think the situation would have been enough to compress what he really looked like last year.
4:16So if we're getting him at the 8th, then we shouldn't take him in the 5th.
4:21But if we're getting him in the 8th, he's not a fantasy starter.
4:26And compared to other receivers I can get there, I think I will take the chance on putting him on my bench.
4:33And so that is a big, significant change that I made over the past two days.
4:38The other one being George Kittle, who I took from number 12 at tight end and raised to number 8.
4:45That is not a major hike in my overall ranks because I have tended to bunch several tight ends together in a little clump there.
4:54And Kittle was at the bottom of that clump and now he's at the top.
4:59But, of course, it means that if a draft stays away from tight ends for long enough for me to get to
5:06that clump in my overall ranks, then, you know, he's ahead of four other tight ends who I would have taken ahead of him previously.
5:15And now I would take him ahead of them.
5:18Because Kittle apparently did make the trip to Australia for week one against the Rams.
5:23I don't think he makes that trip if he's not playing.
5:26Absolutely, of course. Understand that playing might mean 15 snaps.
5:30So I won't be surprised when I do week one ranks next week that I have Kittle lower than 8th.
5:37But it sure seems to bode well for the season that Kittle can be ready to go right away.
5:43And it should go without saying that if he's able to get back to being himself eventually, like even by October, he
5:50will probably have come at a really nice discount.
5:54We had Isaiah Pacheco go on short-term IR. So he isn't draftable.
5:58And we just don't know who the backup is for Jameer Gibbs.
6:02So he accordingly doesn't have a handcuff. And we have a lot of quasi-injured or fully injured guys who we're going to
6:09be in limbo about for week one, for another week plus, and potentially going into games.
6:14Sometimes they just don't tell us in advance. Including guys like Ashton Gentie and Jeremiah Love and Emeka Abuka and others.
6:22And I have basically spent any time, say the last week.
6:25Yeah. Since I got back from the larger trip.
6:28The last week or so, anytime I wasn't doing guest appearances and doing readings and recording this show, I've been in front
6:36of the laptop grinding on the second Almanac edition.
6:39It comes out finally on Friday morning tomorrow. Tomorrow.
6:42I'm pretty much done. I have to do the ranks in the back of the book.
6:47But the write-ups are changed. The ranks are changed.
6:50So many profiles have changed. And you'll see red text.
6:54It's like the old text is crossed out. The new text is bolded.
6:58All of it in red. So it's an easy scroll to catch up and see what changed.
7:04You can do it in probably an hour. So let's all just cross our fingers that we don't get any more landscape-altering news in the next 24 hours.
7:13And then at that point, tomorrow morning, it's going to be sent to you automatically.
7:18If you already got the first edition of the Almanac, it'll be out of my hot little hands for good and into yours.
7:26And I'll get a little bit of sleep this weekend.
7:30All right. And even though I did talk some about it on the Yacht Club show with Andy yesterday, I want to
7:37spend a moment here today thanking the folks who came out to the Los Angeles reading on Tuesday evening.
7:43You want to talk about bad traffic that night?
7:46Oh, man. But we did get a very nice crowd.
7:50This was 30-plus people for sure. Awesome to meet some of you for the first time.
7:55Awesome to re-meet some of you who've come to meetups I've had in the past.
8:00That was fantastic. Fantastic. And then also many of my best friends here in L.A.
8:05came out, which was just so nice. I did the reading.
8:09It was super fun. Portland, you are still the grand champion of the tour.
8:14Congrats. That Portland crowd was unreal. Phoenix and L.A., also great.
8:18Tacoma, great. Vegas, you know, we didn't get that many people.
8:21Also great, though, because the ones who did come, I got to hang out with up close and personal and get to know.
8:29And I'll always remember you guys. Thank you to everybody who came out.
8:34And it's time for me to mention Pound Foolish is a bestseller.
8:38However we define that, I've got visual proof that in some way Pound Foolish is a bestseller.
8:43Cumulative Press has a tiger by the tail. Scholars will be asking decades from now, well, how in the world did a
8:51rinky-dink little publisher as tiny as cumulative press get a book as massive as Pound Foolish?
8:56That's a great question. We'll never know. I'm not sure how long it's going to last.
9:02Maybe it's not lasted by the time you're hearing this, but as of my recording this, if you go to bookshop.org right
9:09now and click the bestseller link at the top, it doesn't matter what format, Pound Foolish is there.
9:15That is crazy. We're ahead of Ann Patchett. We're ahead of Dungeon Crawler Carl.
9:20I mean, granted, that book's been out forever. Plus on Barnes & Noble, the audiobook is listed as a bestseller right now.
9:27So if you go there, you can see the little, there's a little square that says bestseller.
9:33This is, you know, I'm not sure if we're going to register on any, what I typically think of as like, you know, nationwide bestseller list.
9:42The way that there used to be like a New York Times bestseller list.
9:47I don't know if we're going to be on that.
9:50Maybe we will. We'll find out. But even this is so great and beyond what I thought was possible.
9:56It's all because of you. So many of you pre-ordered.
10:00And as we were talking about throughout August, the pre-order sales roll as a rolling tally and they get assigned to the release week.
10:08And that is what happened. So thank you so much.
10:11And if you haven't gotten a copy, maybe it's time to get on the train, don't you think?
10:17After all, this is a bestseller we're talking about for heaven's sake.
10:21Of course, the funny thing is that not that many people have read or listened to the book yet.
10:28You did this out of belief in me, which is absolutely lovely.
10:32And I want to just once again take a moment and talk about what I talked about at the beginning of August,
10:39about how much rejection there is in our lives.
10:42And it's natural. We all feel it. We sometimes feel like we're the only ones feeling it.
10:48But hopefully, you know, just hearing me talk about it, you realize, believe me, we all feel it.
10:54It would be easy for me to come on the show and grouse about how mistreated I have felt trying to convince people to care about this book.
11:04Like, remember, I asked you to suggest shows and things that you listen to.
11:08And we took every single one that you sent in.
11:12And it was dozens and dozens. And we have sent emails to all of them asking, hey, would you like to have me on?
11:20Talk about fantasy. Talk about the new NFL season.
11:23You know, talk about the book and the stuff that we have to ignore in order to stay football fans.
11:30And it was mostly crickets. 99% crickets. And that feels bad.
11:33But I think what I'm finally really feeling for myself is that it just doesn't do any good to obsess over the
11:41people who you feel wronged by or who didn't rate you the way that you believed you should be rated.
11:48We all do this. I know tens of thousands of people are hearing me right now.
11:53And a lot of you have had this in your life.
11:57It's hard to move on when you lose a job or a relationship ends or you're trying to start a business and whatever.
12:05Many other situations that apply to you. I am, of course, 100% part of that.
12:10And this time around, I'm trying really hard to be grateful for the small victories.
12:15I want to give you an example. If you follow me on social media, you already know what I'm about to say.
12:22On Tuesday, before the reading in L.A., I have a publicist who's working with me on Pound Foolish.
12:28He's awesome. He's been like a human shield trying to save me from the worst of the rejection.
12:34So there's this famous sign in front of a burger joint.
12:38It's Rick's Drive-In in Echo Park, which is now the official restaurant of this podcast.
12:43So however much free advertising Rick's Drive-In wants from now until the end of time, they have it.
12:49And so Rick's has this funny sign out front.
12:52For like years, people have been putting up small messages, personal messages, zany messages, nice messages.
12:58And the place is just kind of famous for this hand-lettered sign.
13:02And if you go in there and you buy a burger and you ask them, a lot of times they'll just change the sign for you.
13:11And my publicist went in there and he asked nicely and they were so cool.
13:16And they put up a congratulations notice for the Pound Foolish book launch on Tuesday.
13:21And I took a picture and it's on social media.
13:24It's just such a small, silly thing, but it was a win.
13:28And there just aren't that many wins for any of us in life.
13:33So I decided to be delighted by it rather than obsess over that wronged feeling that I described before.
13:39And it really is kind of liberating and it's kind of new for me.
13:44I'm kind of telling you about it in real time.
13:47It made me feel great. And I, you know, the reason I'm saying it is I've put out books with other publishers before.
13:55And I think I spent a lot of time thinking about things people weren't doing for me.
14:01And this time I'm trying to really appreciate the things that people are doing.
14:05And of course, not only is that Rix, that includes all of you.
14:10And good heavens, none of this even gets to the point where, oh, right.
14:15Many of you are just starting to read it or, you know, starting to listen to it or whatever.
14:21You're getting it in the mail. I hope you like it.
14:25All this hullabaloo. What if it's terrible? Ah, it's not terrible.
14:28If you do like it, the book has a Goodreads page.
14:32It would be awesome once you've read it if you could give it a good rating and you could give it a nice write-up.
14:40If you're reading either, you know, on your Kindle or just the paperback and you find a passage that you like and
14:48you think is good writing and speaks to you, wonderful thing to do is to take a screenshot of that chunk of
14:55text and quote, tag me in it. Like, you know, quote it on social media and tag me in it so I can retweet it or reskeet it.
15:05That really helps. If you see me skeeting or tweeting about the book, please retweet.
15:10Don't just like because that's how it goes viral, et cetera, et cetera.
15:14Anyway, launch is over. Hopefully the ride is not.
15:17I have all of you to thank for that.
15:20Today's kickoff. Okay, on today's show, it's a Thursday tradition.
15:24The week before the season kicks off, we do a total request show in which the entire rest of the podcast will be turned over to you.
15:33I have taken your questions in the Discord via email over social media and we will answer as many of them as we can get to.
15:41Denny Carter of Rotor World will join the show, so that means you know it'll be really fun.
15:48I also have a giveaway at the end of the show, so the Pound Foolish pre-orderers, you will have another victor amongst your number.
15:56I think you'll have fun and I thank you again so much for listening today.
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17:17Today's guest. Guess who's coming on the pod today?
17:20His name is Danny Carter and his hair is gray.
17:23That wrote a world now because there's bills to pay.
17:27He might be tilting, but he likes it that way.
17:30His hair was growing for a year and as a groom.
17:34He said, I'm gonna be like you, Dad. Growing out my hair like you.
17:39And the silver spoon. Little Danny Carter in my whole shampoo.
17:42And we have to ask him, first and foremost, does he still use horse shampoo?
17:47It is. Danny Carter from Rotowire. You can find him on Blue Sky where he is a luminary.
17:53A luminary of Blue Sky. One of the true ambassadors of sports on Blue Sky.
17:58I think that's actually true. You know, Blue Sky, we're always like, this is the day that sports became real on Blue Sky.
18:06We've been saying that for like three years. But I truly do believe you're one of the main ambassadors of sports on
18:14Blue Sky because you're following there as giant. Oh, yeah.
18:17I mean, I try to spread the word and it actually is really.
18:21I'll just say this about Blue Sky and sports, right?
18:25Is if you remember what Twitter was like back in the day where, you know, there was no like massive algorithm like
18:32showing you posts from 18 hours ago. Live sports were way better to watch back then on Twitter, right?
18:39Well, you can get the same thing on Blue Sky now and we have a lot of sports folks just posting craziness during like island games.
18:48You know, like it's wild. And I think it's more like it feels like more community based is what I'd say.
18:55Yeah. It's fun. I mean, I have some complaints about Blue Sky, but not nearly as many as I do about Twitter.
19:02That's for sure. I buried the lead, though. We still are using horse shampoo probably.
19:07You know, my doctor said after 40, you should not be using horse shampoo.
19:12So, you know, I take my doctor's recommendation seriously and I switched to Dove, you know.
19:17Well, when I get to 40, I'll let you know.
19:21Wait a minute. Hold on. We're looking into that.
19:24Yeah, we're doing closely. Exactly. So you can listen to Pat and Danny, I hope many of you do, on the Roto
19:31World Football Show very regularly, on which you just had me as a guest a couple of days ago.
19:38Thank you very much for that, helping me spread the word about the book.
19:42I don't know if you've seen, you didn't certainly hear the beginning that I just recorded of the show, but I've been
19:50massively posting here on socials here because the book actually is by some measure a bestseller this week.
19:56That's awesome. Yeah. Really? Right. It is. Congratulations. Honestly, I'm not surprised.
20:00I'll just say this for the listeners. Chris was nice enough to send me an advance copy months ago, many months ago, and I couldn't put it down.
20:09And I was, A, I was scared. It freaked me out.
20:13And the voice shifts that you have in the book are really something.
20:17I know, you know, I'm embarrassing you in front of your friends here, but it was really good writing as usual.
20:25Thank you so much. You're so kind. And, you know, folks can check on YouTube from the archives for when Tulsa, well,
20:32I think it wasn't when it came out, but within a few years of it coming out anyway, Denny was kind of,
20:39you know, I'm going to be a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of
20:47a little bit of a little bit of a little bit.
20:51Ken, I'll start with Philly Puka Possum fan. Any advice for putting yourself out there and enjoying the good interactions and having
20:58a goldfish memory for the bad interactions? I guess this person means online.
21:02Yeah, because Dolphins Talk Josh also said, how would your social media use be impacted if you didn't need to use it for work?
21:11So it is kind of the same question. Like, would you be on social media if you didn't have to use it
21:18for work and then also like putting yourself out there generally?
21:22Like, I guess, you know, putting a book out.
21:25I just talked about that earlier about, you know, trying to trying to not think of the bad stuff, the people who are ignoring you.
21:33Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, my I think I think I'm a born poster, unfortunately.
21:39I think Roto Pat is also a born poster.
21:42I think if I didn't have social media, I would be going door to door in my neighborhood and giving my takes
21:50on on fantasy stuff to people or politics or whatever.
21:53So I guess I would still use it maybe not the same way or maybe not quite as much.
21:59There is a real need, unfortunately, that kind of develops inside me, at least, to constantly like push my work.
22:06And, you know, and I do that primarily on Blue Sky, mostly because links are not suppressed on Blue Sky, which is nice.
22:14And my work can actually be shared. But if I didn't have that to share, I probably would not post as much.
22:21Yeah. Yeah, I probably wouldn't post as much either.
22:24I like there's a there's a fine line between.
22:27Being, you know, sharing how you are excited you are about something that you experienced or did and bragging.
22:34And I'm especially with the book coming out, I'm very much feeling like I'm walking that line.
22:40I don't want it to come across like I'm awesome.
22:43I'm awesome. I'm trying to share it because honestly, like the people who are listening to us right now are the ones who let's face it.
22:52Nobody knows this book except the people who know me because I've been mercilessly hyping it to them for a month.
22:59So like the reason it's any success is because of the folks listening.
23:03So I want to share that success, but I don't want it to come across as like and now I'm great.
23:10Because trust me, I don't think I'm great. I'm sure you've had this feeling before.
23:15You know, I've written, you know, books, mostly like, you know, e-books available online where I don't know if they're good.
23:23You know, like when I'm done with them, I'm like, this might be bad, but I'm going to put it out there anyway and see what people think.
23:32And so it's yeah, I've definitely never finished a big project and been like, this is amazing.
23:38You got to check it out. Yeah, I mean, hopefully I kind of inadvertently answered the first question with the beginning of
23:45the show, which is to say to focus on the good stuff and to ignore the feeling of rejection is work.
23:52Oh, yes. Right. Right. Bottom line, that's that's work.
23:55And and like people who troll you on social media who don't agree with your post or think your take was bad or whatever.
24:03You know, the best thing you can do is not is just like let it wash over you.
24:10Don't reply. You know, like, yeah, don't. Yeah, I would say don't reply.
24:14I used to when I was young, when I was in my early 30s, I used to reply to every negative post
24:21and just go back and forth forever. And it was so stupid.
24:25And it honestly it it makes it colors and animates everything else in your life, at least for me, while that feud is going on.
24:34Like it may it puts me in an irritated state when I'm interacting with other people, my family most prominently.
24:41And and so, yeah, just save yourself the grief.
24:44Don't do that. Nestling Helmsman says, If you could guarantee one championship for any team or individual in any sport at any
24:51level, professional or otherwise, who would you choose? Does it have to be a current player or?
24:57I'd say current. Yeah. OK. I mean, yeah, it could be a team.
25:01Yeah. I mean, honestly, I feel for my bills, people.
25:05You know, like I might just choose the bills just today.
25:08Actually, I was at my kids middle school. Right.
25:11And one of the office workers knows what I do for a living for better or worse.
25:17And and she came up to me and she goes, I have a question.
25:22I said, yeah. Yeah. And I thought it was going to be about my kid.
25:27Right. And she goes, is this the Buffalo Bills year?
25:30And I said, probably not. And I really do.
25:33I find myself rooting for them. Like last year in the playoffs, I felt like a bills fan.
25:40So is it OK if I choose the bills?
25:43Of course. Absolutely. There's a lot of bills fans who listen and we love them.
25:48Um, I would probably go. I want another Boston Bruins championship.
25:51I, I got to say, that's probably the team that I have the most pure attachment to in any sport right now.
25:59You know, I love all the Boston sports teams, but I really love hockey.
26:04And it probably the Bruins were the first team I was aware of when I was like three or four, you know,
26:11like the first sports experience I ever had was watching Bruins games.
26:15And it just doesn't have the professional attachment. I've never covered it.
26:19I used to cover baseball and obviously cover the NFL.
26:23The NBA is fun. It's not. The regular season is just interminable and I don't really like the games.
26:29Yeah. Um, so I would, I would say the Bruins.
26:32Yeah. I mean, oh, sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
26:35I'm sorry. With the NHL, it seems like the regular season matters and that they try.
26:41Yeah, they do try. They try hard. It's hard to play hockey.
26:45Not trying. Uh, Joe K says, Chris, you were still high on Larry Fitzgerald as he was getting older, yet remaining productive
26:52while other analysts were starting to write him off.
26:55Do you think any, any current older wide receivers could follow in Larry Fitzgerald's footsteps by reinventing their game or role and
27:03keep their fantasy relevance up for a couple extra years?
27:06Um, not Mike Evans. You don't think so? No, no.
27:10I think he's, he's faded for oblivion. I'll draft him this year, but I don't think he has a long time ahead of him.
27:18Um, okay. Yeah. Players who, who could keep it up for a, like into well into their thirties receivers.
27:24It's funny when I wrote the, when I copied the question and put it in the show notes, I had someone in
27:32mind and I kind of don't remember now who I was thinking of.
27:36Anybody come to mind for you? Yeah. Well, so this person doesn't have to be currently in their thirties.
27:42It just, right. But has a game that could translate.
27:46Um, I mean, I feel like Jamar Chase probably.
27:49He might, I mean, I mean, he's the speed, but has the chops kind of.
27:54Right. I mean, you know, like kind of like Stefan Diggs, um, was good last year on the limited routes that he got, you know?
28:02Um, I feel like that is somewhat of a path for Jamar Chase, even though Chase at his peak is obviously better than Diggs at his peak.
28:11Um, right. But Chase, I think Chase, I, when I, when I think of guys who won't last into that, that part
28:19of their lives, I think of honestly T Higgins.
28:22I think of big bodied guys who just get dinged up and have the constant soft tissue injuries, kind of like Julio Jones, you know?
28:30Um, so those, those are the guys who I don't think have a great chance of doing that.
28:36I, I'll say maybe like they, this kind of need to be gamers, you know, like someone who was fast and doesn't have to be fast anymore.
28:46That's true. And, but they have to like be, just be like real, we think of them as like really good football players.
28:53Uh, like Jalen Waddle. No, cause I think he's all about speed.
28:57And once the speed goes away, you know, I just, I don't think that'll age great.
29:03Um, Chris Godwin. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. I'll, I'll say, I'll say Godwin seems like a good candidate to me because I think
29:10he, he's never really done it with speed. It's not like he's slow, but, um, he, he, he, he kind of had
29:18like old man game before he was an old man, you know?
29:22So maybe I'll say same with Keenan Allen. He kind of is old.
29:26Oh, he's, yeah, he's an example. He was, he was faster.
29:30He's a great example of someone who, who adjusted his game for sure.
29:34He might be the slowest receiver in the league.
29:37I know. No question about it. Rick nine, a Z for both you and Denny.
29:42What's your favorite thing you have read or watched this year?
29:46Movie TV or book? I mean, besides pound foolish.
29:49Oh, disqualified. Let's see. What have I watched? Um, I, I, I watched, um, widow, widow's Bay on TV.
29:56Um, people said it was very fun. Yeah. That it is.
29:59It's fun. Um, honestly, it takes a little while to, to kind of ramp up.
30:04Um, I was a little on the board side for the first few episodes, but you know, um, uh, our mutual buddy,
30:12Tom Everett Scott, uh, uh, recommended that. And he said, if you like creepy new England stuff, then that's, that's the show to watch.
30:20And I said, I love creepy new England. Uh, yeah.
30:23So it was, um, uh, that, that, that was, that was a good one.
30:28How about you? Yeah. I'm going to be boring and go right at the top of the board, but I thought Pluribus was great.
30:36Hmm. I didn't see it. Oh, I thought it was great.
30:40I thought it's the Vince Gilligan Apple TV show.
30:43Uh, Rhea Seahorn's the star. She's amazing in it.
30:46It's just a high concept, great concept, really well executed.
30:49I really, really liked it. It, it of course will wind up being as it's corner.
30:55It's kind of a puzzle box show. So in the end we will think of the quality of the show based on
31:02whether it could be a good, it had a good solution to the puzzle.
31:07Um, but like, uh, what's the, what's the Ben Stiller show?
31:11The office show? The, Oh, Oh, Oh yeah. Uh, what is that thing called?
31:15I can never remember the damn name. It's not session.
31:19It's, uh, I've seen the whole thing. Me too.
31:22It's a severance. And like severance, I loved the first season.
31:26And now that we're deeper into it, I'm like, Oh, I have a feeling they don't, this is a lost situation.
31:33They don't really have an answer. And a lot of the things are just going to get left unsolved.
31:39And yeah, like that can happen to a puzzle box show, you know?
31:44So it could happen to Pluribus, but I definitely enjoyed it.
31:47I have a take that everyone hates and I just want to put it out there.
31:53Um, almost every show ever would have been better with just one season.
31:57It should be limited to one season. I get, I mean, I guess I get it, but I, I, like I just
32:05rewatched Mad Men again and I actually really liked Mad Men all the way through.
32:10Breaking Bad, I like all the way through. Sopranos I like all the way through.
32:15Yeah. Sopranos is great. Uh, severance though, man, like that, that would have been an amazing one season show.
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33:28PolicyGenius.com slash Harris. We are back with Denny. We are answering your questions in our Total Request episode.
33:34We've got Seattle Canuck. Denny, would you rather watch three Hollywood movie blockbusters starring Pat McAfee from start to finish or start
33:42every draft going with three straight running backs for the rest of your life?
33:46This is a horrible choice. That's a Sophie's Choice right there for you.
33:51It is. This is Sophie's. Wow. This is worse than Sophie's Choice.
33:55God. Yeah. McAfee is in a Netflix movie somehow.
33:58I'll go with the... I'll just do the running back drafting.
34:02Whatever. I mean, you know. The league... Look, the league is trending toward hyper run game defense thing.
34:08So whatever. We'll just do that. Yeah. I think you don't need to be suffering with Pat McAfee in things.
34:14No. No. I'm okay. You made the right choice.
34:17You know, I've noticed... Go ahead. Sorry. I can identify some good receivers in the fifth to eighth round, you know.
34:25Right. Exactly. I'm realizing now that there's precious little chickpea questions in these.
34:29And I feel like as the fantasy industry's two biggest proponents of chickpeas, I feel slighted.
34:34Yeah. Yeah. What's going on with that? I don't know.
34:38Why did you all not ask about... I guess they know our stances.
34:42That's boring to them. They know. Yeah. They already know.
34:46I will say, I recently got into... I'm in a new chickpea phase.
34:50Can I share about that? Yeah. Yeah. It's a Greek chickpea can of chickpeas, right?
34:55And it's already like pre-made and olive oil and oregano and all this stuff.
35:00It's amazing. I get it from Harris Teeter grocery store.
35:03And it is so good. And filling. This is the thing about chickpeas.
35:08It actually fills you up. They actually fill you up.
35:11Yeah. It's protein. It's like pure... It's pure protein.
35:14I love it. I mean, it's not pure protein.
35:17It also has carbs. But in moderation, it works out very, very well.
35:21I'm going to try the seasoned chickpea cans now going forward.
35:25Yeah. Feast Mode says, do you guys watch It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia?
35:30Season 18 is currently airing. Favorite character? Favorite episode?
35:33I'll just answer by saying that would have been one that...
35:36If it had been one season, I would have liked it.
35:40But 18 seasons of that does not sound necessary to me.
35:44Yeah. So here's the thing for me with shows or movies or musicians with huge discographies, is once I get too far behind, I completely ignore them.
35:53And I can never, ever get into It's Always Sunny because there's too much.
35:58There's too much. I can't ever catch up. And it looks like a funny show.
36:03And I like the actors, I think. But no, I've never seen an episode.
36:07Oh, I mean, I really liked it when it first came out.
36:11That was... I think I was 12. It's been on for a long time.
36:16You know, I can't remember how many seasons I watched.
36:20Probably more than one. Probably a few. And I really liked it.
36:24It was very funny. But it kind of got less funny to me as it went along.
36:29And the whole... You know, it's like meaner Seinfeld.
36:32Oh, okay. Okay. When Seinfeld to me got bad was when the characters all became George.
36:38Like everybody just became George. Like loathsome. Yeah, everybody was loathsome.
36:42And what was sweet about it was Elaine was nice originally.
36:45And Jerry was nice originally. And the problem I had, you know, with many, many seasons of that show, It's Always Sunny, is just that everybody's horrible.
36:54Like there's no... It's one note to me. But again, like you don't tell people don't like things.
37:01Feast Mode obviously likes it. So... I know. You know, I struggle with that, Chris.
37:06Like yucking people's yum. But like sometimes I'm like, can you have a little better yum?
37:11You know, it's... RJT says, Denny, do you ever get asked about your favorite running back...
37:16Sorry, I misread the question. Sorry, RJT. Denny, do you ever get asked about your favorite RBs and get confused about whether
37:24they mean running backs or places that have the meats?
37:27Does this cause traumatic flashbacks to the meat mountain?
37:30Yeah, for those of you who may not remember, during COVID, I sat in a dark, empty Arby's parking lot in Rockville,
37:38Maryland and ate an Arby's meat mountain on live stream.
37:41And it got... I don't actually remember the live views, but it was in like over 10,000.
37:47It was crazy. Oh, my God. And like someone told me that they were watching it on their TV with their family.
37:54And I'm like, I don't understand how this happened.
37:57But yeah, I recently told my nephews about that.
38:00They were too young at the time. But I told them about that and they were like, I don't understand your life.
38:08You know, like, what do you do? Like, what is it you do exactly?
38:13Oh, and I wanted to share a McDonald's across the street closed a few months ago and it's being replaced by an Arby's.
38:20So I have that going for me. I guess during COVID, people's viewing habits probably shouldn't be judged because they were probably just bored, you know?
38:29Bored and drunk. Yeah, maybe. Mr. A says, Denny, what do the spreadsheets and or goat entrails say are the breakout players to watch this season?
38:38Yeah, we are. I do have a live stream coming up of goat sacrifice and we're going to see what it says about Ladd McConkie.
38:46Yeah. That's a good enough answer. We don't actually need breakouts.
38:50It's fine. That's a good enough answer. We'll move on.
38:54But TJ Starr, what are the top three great novels in the Chris Harris canon?
38:59And we'll say the Denny Carter canon too. You don't have to say three, but...
39:04Oh. Well, does anything come to mind as far as like your favorite novels?
39:08Again, present company, of course, except it. Wait, are we talking about things we've written or things we've read?
39:15Read. Read. Oh, okay. Okay. Man, I'm actually just turning around to look at my bookshelf.
39:20All I can do is mine. I mean, I did a...
39:24It's a rotating, of course, cast of characters. But I did...
39:28If people want to listen, I did a podcast.
39:31Holy cow. 20... 15, maybe? I can't remember. Where I did...
39:34I counted down my top 10 novels of all time.
39:38So that is still somewhere out there. I'll link to it in the show notes.
39:43I'd say Pale Fire is always my go-to as my number one by Nabokov.
39:48That's... It's just so brilliant. I actually have a copy of it in LA.
39:52I bought a copy of it so I could have it here, too.
39:57It's so great. Jesus' Son by Dennis Johnson, not by Denny Carter.
40:01Yep. Is awesome. One of my favorites. Infinite Jest.
40:04No. London Fields by Martin Amis. Did you ever read that one?
40:08No. I know of it, but I... Yeah. I'll say those are my three.
40:13Okay. I'm just looking at my bookshelf. I'm going to go right now.
40:17I loved the book Endzone by Don Delilo. Delilo.
40:20Delilo. Sorry. I've never said his name out. If you've ever read Slotback Rhapsody, my first book, then you've read Endzone by Don Delilo.
40:28I remember talking about it with you, yeah. And I just...
40:32I ate that one. That was... Yeah, it's so good.
40:35Well, it's not... So... So... He's not an easy read, but it was super interesting and, of course, well written.
40:42I'll go with... I kind of love The Wild Boys by William Burroughs.
40:46Sure. Really great. Yeah, yeah. I mean... It's great.
40:50Hard to read. Hard to read. Yeah, yeah. The punctuation was curious, but I thought it was incredibly creative.
40:56Yeah, it's an experience. You're almost... You have to let it wash over you, any Burroughs, you know?
41:02Yeah. Yeah, don't fight it. You know, that's what I would say.
41:06And then, I mean, can I just be basic and say Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail?
41:12That was an amazing book to read. Who wrote it?
41:16Oh, that's Hunter S. Thompson. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah.
41:19So I know Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
41:22I didn't actually know he wrote more Fear and Loathing books.
41:25I'm not... I don't think I've read anything by him ever.
41:29Yeah, it's the 72 presidential race. And I've never read anything that gets to the maggot-filled heart of American politics.
41:36It is just gross. Wow. Everything, both parties, everybody who's involved is just disgusting.
41:41You will come away being like, where do I live?
41:44In what country do I live? Well, and that's 1972.
41:47So, like, you know, it was still going on then, you know, as though it's new.
41:53You know, that's amazing. I'm going to check that out for sure.
41:57Josh says, what have been the biggest areas of improvement with your fantasy analysis from when you started to now?
42:04What are your biggest blind spots that still require work?
42:07Hmm. Improvement-wise, I try to stay the course on players during the season that might start slow.
42:13And that's something that I struggled with when I was younger and newer to the industry.
42:18I just wanted to pull the plug and be like, okay, that didn't work.
42:23We're on to the next one. But, you know, I think as statistics and metrics have become better and more informative, I
42:30think that you can kind of see, okay, this guy is actually getting the opportunity that he'll need.
42:36It's just a matter of converting. And it doesn't always work, but that is something I think I've improved on.
42:43I don't know if I'm a great judge of what I've improved on.
42:48But I can say that blind spot, you know, tiny bones, the tiny bone running backs.
42:53I'm trying to be more open to Devon HN.
42:56You know, I really didn't have any shares and recommended no on Devon HN for the first couple years of his career.
43:04Last year, I was in on him. But the first two years, I just like, I don't know if a player that's small.
43:11I know he's a great athlete. I don't know if he can do it.
43:16Like McCaffrey, I feel like, you know, either I've been super right or super wrong on McCaffrey every alternating year because, you
43:23know, he gets hurt so much that he seems to be like the test case for the tiny bones running back.
43:31But, like, I don't think they're going away. They're still growing them small and they are really great athletes.
43:37So I need to keep working on not automatically believing in them, but like being open to the idea that they could be exceptions, I would say.
43:46Sure. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm kind of in the same boat.
43:50But as far as my blind spot, I would say this kind of relates to your Matthew Stafford take for the season.
43:58Don't discount a guy because he's good. I think that's such a – you said that on your show when I was the guest a couple days ago.
44:07That's such a great encapsulation. I'll spend 10,000 words to figure out how to say that and you just tweeted it out.
44:15I just tweeted it out. Yeah, that's exactly it.
44:18That's like why are we punishing players for having good seasons?
44:21Yeah. The next year. I've done that with, like, Lamar.
44:25I've done that with guys with high touchdown rates and it's like, well, they just kind of score a lot of touchdowns.
44:32It's just the way they are. It's the way their offense is, you know.
44:37Yeah. Matt says, famously on a guest appearance years ago, Denny once predicted an RB1 season for James White as the ultimate
44:44PPR scam, which was a great call in the history of this show.
44:49Do you have an honorary James White PPR scam for this year?
44:53Well, you know, the satellite backs are kind of a dying species in fantasy football.
44:58We don't really have those scams anymore. And I miss them.
45:02God, I miss them because they really made zero RB or hero RB or whatever.
45:07It made that work to be able to scoop those guys up and be like, hey, I got my 13 PPR points
45:14from James White for doing nothing, you know. And, you know, so it felt like a hack.
45:20We don't really have that. I guess if I could point to anyone who might be able to fit that, it would be like Kenneth Gainwell in Tampa.
45:29Keaton Mitchell, maybe. Oh, yeah. I mean, Keaton Mitchell's my guy, but now he's hurt and I'm afraid.
45:35Yeah. I'm going to guess he's not hurt that bad.
45:39But, man, how do I know? I don't know.
45:42But, I mean, McDaniel, Mike McDaniel loves that guy.
45:45Like, he really is into him. Speaking of whom, Elliot says, for Denny, who is the most Marxist offensive coordinator and why is it Mike McDaniel?
45:54That's funny. Yeah. I actually posted a chart a couple months ago of woke coordinators versus unwoke coordinators based on their use of pre-snap motion.
46:02And what was the other thing? Oh, and pace.
46:05Pace of play, right? And, yeah, the most unwoke guys were Matt Nagy and the guy from the Bengals, Zach Taylor.
46:12And then, yeah, McDaniel was at the top. He was off the chart, basically.
46:17So, yeah, I think you're right. So woke. So incredibly woke.
46:21Invader Coda says, does the play caller, the offensive coordinator, or the head coach have any bearing on your evaluation of players?
46:28Example, coach XYZ loves calling slants in the middle to their tight end.
46:33Or running backs under this coach usually end up getting more goal line work.
46:37I can start by saying, I sure hear that stuff a lot.
46:41I find it to be somewhat instructive. It's not completely useless.
46:45But I do sometimes think that it's a trailing indicator of an analyst's interest.
46:50In other words, you find yourself interested and you're coming up.
46:54Not you. One finds oneself interested and comes up with it's trying to come up with reasons for that interest.
47:00And then kind of retrofits the reason saying, well, I can see a world where that offensive coordinator is a perfect fit for that guy.
47:09And you kind of already liked him anyway. And the fact that the system might fit them and you don't really know
47:16that if it's a brand new system. You know, I get a lot of questions about like, you love Zay Flowers.
47:23Is this because of Declan Doyle? And I go, dude, I couldn't point Declan Doyle out in a Where's Waldo poster.
47:30Like, I got no idea. I don't know what that's going to be.
47:35If you walk in the room right now. Yeah, I would not.
47:39And like, so, you know, people were asking that question about the Eagles two years ago.
47:44New offensive coordinator. I bet that's great, right? You know, no, it wasn't.
47:49The bottom line for me is that I feel like it's more of a trailing indicator for somebody that people already want to like.
47:57That makes sense. I think I pay more attention to it when that play caller or coordinator represents like a big departure from the previous regime.
48:06For instance, just to get back to Mike McDaniel, like Mike McDaniel runs an offense that is 180 degrees different from Greg Roman.
48:13In the way they use under center, the way they use pre-snap motion, you know, early down run rates.
48:20Like, that's a big difference. So I tend to pay more attention to that.
48:25But I try not to get too caught up.
48:28Because you're right. Do you remember this, Chris? I'm sure you do.
48:32When Kubiak went to Baltimore. With the dad Kubiak.
48:35And he said, we're going to put Torrey Smith in the Andre Johnson role.
48:39And this was the thing for months. Well, Torrey Smith is Andre Johnson now.
48:44And, you know, Torrey Smith was terrible that year and got hurt, whatever.
48:49And so that was a bust. And so that's like a great example of not getting too caught up in it.
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50:02Varies by state. We are back with Denny and we're going to try to get to as many of these questions as we can.
50:10I've been guilty of going slow. We'll do, as we get going, we'll do lightning round.
50:16But yeah, we'll just give answers as we can.
50:19McMoulton says, How does your relative position value or overall ranks change for deeper leagues?
50:24For example, a 14-teamer with an extra wide receiver who starts.
50:2814-teamer with an extra wide receiver. And so you're saying, the question is, how do I value players according to that lineup?
50:35Yeah, does it change? Like, if you were using your own ranks in such a draft, would you shuffle them because you
50:43recognize that, ooh, now tight end can be a little scarcer.
50:46Ooh, quarterback now can be a little scarcer. Ooh, wide receiver could be a little more scarcer.
50:52Yeah, I think you need to do that. I mean, if you treat every league the same, even like a 10-teamer where
50:59you only start two receivers, you're going to treat receiver a lot differently than a 14-teamer where you can start up to five receivers, you know?
51:08So I think you do need to adjust. And also as a PPR, as a standard, you know, that sort of thing as well.
51:16I just try not to get too cute with those really deep lineups.
51:21Like, I'm trying to, like, picture who I'm going to start as I draft, you know?
51:26Yeah. You know, I'm in a 16-teamer, been a commissioner for a league we talk about on the show for a long, long time.
51:34And, yeah, now suddenly quarterback is more scarce. Tight end is more scarce.
51:39They need to go higher. They absolutely do. Yeah.
51:42It's no longer wait forever. It's, like, certainly feel the room, but try not to get avalanched by a position run if you haven't gotten positions yet.
51:51It's good. It balances out more. It's the same thing that Superflex does, you know?
51:56The reason we start taking quarterbacks and Superflex is because you go, oh, crap, I'm going to run out.
52:02You know, I'm going to be starting Geno. And you don't want to do that.
52:07Kevin says, my Fantasy League has attempted a book club a couple of times and only made it through a couple of books.
52:15Tell me how to sell Pound Foolish to some light readers.
52:19That might be tough. I mean, not that it's a bad book.
52:23You know, I really enjoyed it. But light readers, I don't know.
52:27Do you think a light reader would be able to get into it?
52:31I think so. You know, the question is, maybe not.
52:35The answer is, like, I have literary aspirations. So if the person is like, I want to be able to read at,
52:42you know, let's face it, a lot of adult fiction, unfortunately.
52:46I mean, I just heard what's on your bookshelf.
52:49You are not this kind of reader. Like, people need it to be written at, like, a seventh grade level.
52:56It's true. You know, Harry Potter is written at a seventh grade level, you know.
53:01And if you need the book to be written at a seventh grade level, I don't think you're going to, like, Pound Foolish.
53:09But if you're willing to just kind of read and keep going, I think there's – I mean, that's the point.
53:16Why you and I read books that aren't written at that level mostly is that we find pleasure in the kind of
53:23sticking with it, unpacking it, trying to meet the author on their own terms.
53:28You know what I mean? I mean, I like the challenge.
53:32I like a challenge of, like, reading something that is not easy to read.
53:36And I don't mean your book is not easy to read.
53:40I know – it sounds like I'm trashing your book right now.
53:44Not at all. It doesn't sound – I think anybody picking this book up will not be like, wow, I can't make sense of these sentences.
53:53No, no, no. But, like, it moves around. Suddenly you're in somebody else's head, and you have to figure it out as you go.
54:01It doesn't really hold your hand. And, by the way, you don't have to say anything, Chris, but, like, for the listeners,
54:09when Chris goes into player voice in these extended paragraph sentences that last – I don't even know, Chris.
54:15What is it? 400 words sometimes for a sentence?
54:18And it is – but it comes off as, like, real and, like, true.
54:23And I just – as a writer, I struggle with that.
54:27I was impressed. Thank you very much. Adam says, given the principles of value-based drafting, why do wide receivers seem to have
54:34essential parity in Chris's ranks with running backs after Jamar Chase?
54:38Can you explain why running backs are not more top-heavy in your ranks?
54:42Obviously, this is more a question for me. Because, in the end, when we get to every season, running backs will always
54:50outpace the replacement-level running back by more than wide receivers outpace the replacement-level wide receiver or tight ends or quarterbacks.
54:56And so why not just make ranks that are fully running backs?
55:00And the answer is because we don't know which running backs yet.
55:04There comes a point where you kind of lose faith that this is going – the one guy that you would pick
55:12at this particular spot is definitely the guy who's going to outpace the replacement-level guy.
55:17You get down to the point where you're talking about, you know, David Montgomery, and he could have a good season, but
55:24I don't suspect he's going to be the one who winds up outpacing at the top.
55:30And so I want a receiver who's got a better chance to outpace.
55:34It is a really good question, but this is why you do blend ranks because the players – we're drafting players.
55:41We're not drafting positions. Exactly. I would just add that David Montgomery doesn't seem like the guy you need.
55:48And I think there are other players in that part of the draft that you could maybe pin that label on.
55:55Right. Justin says, this year it seems there were a lot of minor injuries that happened throughout the offseason.
56:01Players got hurt and missed a week or two of practice time.
56:05What made you determine how far the players should drop?
56:09Was it how bad the injury was or something different?
56:12I mean, the injury stuff is so crazy because, like, they don't even have to tell you anything during the preseason.
56:19You know, like, with Ashton Gentry right now, who knows?
56:23Who knows? I mean, you have – Jeremiah Walker.
56:26Jeremiah Love. Yeah, right. I feel a little better about Jeremiah Love.
56:30Did you see him delivering pizzas? We talked about it.
56:33I don't know that I consider that to be evidence, but – I think we have to adjust our ranks based on that.
56:41They're not that heavy. I don't know, man. Jeremiah Love – okay, can I ask you something?
56:47This is a little off topic, but when you saw him in the pre – did you see his preseason carries?
56:54Oh, come on, Chris. I don't watch it. I wanted to get your film take.
56:59No. You got to watch it. I was almost freaked out by how he was running.
57:04It was actually insanely impressive, I thought. I hope he's healthy.
57:08For me, the answer is probably there is no rule, and also I think there are always this level of injuries.
57:15Every year we're surprised. You know, the genius of the NFL is the extent to which it brainwashes us and makes us
57:22think that what we're seeing is brand new when it just never is.
57:27And then also, you know, we just forget how much it changes from year to year.
57:32We just assume we know all the good teams, and then we get to week three, and we're like, wait a minute.
57:40That team's good? What the heck? But the answer is it is a case-by-case basis, and it really usually is about whether it's a multi-week injury.
57:48If it's a Mike Evans soft tissue – I think he had five soft tissue injuries during camp – I just stopped
57:56reacting to them because you realize that they're just over-reporting.
57:59Yes. Yes. Yeah. JC says, thoughts on the quarterback carousel in Minnesota under Kevin O'Connell.
58:04Is he really a quarterback whisperer, or is he just a self-proclaimed quarterback whisperer?
58:09I think there's evidence that he's a whisperer. I mean, he's had some really, really bad quarterbacks there.
58:15Like, that front office has completely botched the quarterback position.
58:19Obviously, they should have kept Darnold. I think that was very clear at the time, by the way.
58:25But – and not that Darnold is like a world beater, but he was okay enough to, I think, succeed long-term in that system.
58:33But you're talking about Josh Dobbs, right? You're talking about like a fifth-string quarterback in Josh Dobbs.
58:39You're talking about Nick Mullins, who's like an XFL material, right?
58:42And those guys had a little success in that system.
58:46So I think he's a whisperer. I do, too.
58:49I think he's pretty legit. Tony says, hey, Harris, did you give Denny a copy of your new book?
58:55Indeed. As we've discussed, we did. Jonathan Daly says, I've adopted a wide receiver slash tight end flex spot in my league for the last few years.
59:04I'm a big fan of it. I'm thinking about going to super flex, but I'm hesitant.
59:10Are you yay or nay on a league changing from season to season to super flex?
59:15I'm a nay on that. Interesting. I'm a pro.
59:18I'm in favor. I just, I don't know. Why?
59:21I don't know. It's just like, if that's not what people signed up for.
59:26I mean, if Lee's okay with it, go ahead.
59:29But I feel like if there's pushback from a few people who are like, I don't know.
59:35I don't know about super flex, man. Like, I'm just trying to live my life.
59:40Because, I mean, super flex is a whole different animal, right?
59:43I mean, you really have to completely adjust how you see not just quarterback, but every other position.
59:50And I would feel out the league. Feel out the league.
59:53But then again, it sounds like Jonathan was able to get through the phasing tight end out as its own position and
60:01making a tight end wide receiver flex spot instead.
60:04And so if your league is able to adjust to that, I think they eventually will like super flex.
60:10They'll realize, oh my God, like four quarterbacks go in the first round.
60:15That makes it more fun. And just, I think any league where the draft strategy can be more varied and you don't have to be programmatic is great.
60:24It makes it more about skill. Shurn asks, what's your favorite part of publishing the book?
60:29You're always worried or stressed about it, and rightfully so.
60:33But what parts have you genuinely enjoyed about doing the publishing part?
60:37Because as you know, Denny, I actually published this one.
60:40Yeah. First time I've done this. I mean, my publicist has become my friend, and I have worked with him really closely on this.
60:48And that part has been really fun, even though it's been so frustrating to try to get publicity.
60:55But he's been so supportive. I don't think this could have happened without him.
60:59So I think I have genuinely enjoyed that. The actual mechanics of making it happen, the saving the files the right way,
61:07and the acquisition of the cover graphic in the right thing, and then uploading at the right time, and then putting in the right metadata.
61:15None of that has been fun. Metadata. You know, this is why we get into writing, so we can do metadata.
61:22Real joy. That killed me. FFT Buck said, which Green Bay offensive players do you like the most now at their cost?
61:30Oh, man. That's a great question. I don't like Tucker Craft at his cost.
61:34I feel like he's going way too early. You know, two weeks ago, it was like snap count, pitch count, this and that.
61:42And then suddenly it's like no pitch count, no snap count, full bore.
61:47I don't know what to believe there. I love it.
61:50Yeah. Right. That's a good, I think that's a good call.
61:54He's going too early for me. I guess I would, I would say Christian Watson, I think is reasonable at ADP.
62:01Me too. Me too. And to be honest, you know, it's going to, we'll see.
62:06This weekend is going to be the wild, wild west for Marshawn Lloyd drafting.
62:11I don't think we really have an ADP that can tell us what people are going to experience in draft rooms this
62:18weekend because it's such a unique situation. Like the numbers can't catch up in time for this last weekend.
62:25That's true. If Marshawn Lloyd is going in the eighth or ninth round, like his ADP says he is, I'm okay with that.
62:32He might stink. He might not be able to play at all.
62:36But nobody else in the eighth or ninth round can become Josh Jacobs, can become like an RB1 without much, if he's good.
62:44Now that's a major if. So I don't mind that too much.
62:48But just real quick on the Packers, Pat and I talked on the show the other day about the way to play
62:56the Packers offense now might be Jordan Love, either Christian Watson or Reed or somebody.
63:01And then Chris Brooks, who's the RB2 right now.
63:04Sure. And, you know, in case Lloyd gets dinged up or whatever.
63:08Or stinks. Or is bad, yeah. Or just gets benched.
63:11I think that's an interesting way to look at it.
63:15To be honest, we don't really even know Chris Brooks isn't the RB1.
63:19They've talked like Lloyd's the RB1, but like why are they telling us the truth?
63:24Like it could be a very split thing and Brooks could be the one you want.
63:29We might emerge from week one thinking, yeah, as a very late rag guy, I don't mind Brooks at all.
63:36Oh man. A dual question. And I filtered out.
63:39I just took two of them. Rob says, why does Denny hate Tom Petty's music so much?
63:45Dadbod says, can you please shame Denny for his ungodly Tom Petty is bad take?
63:50I know. Look, I worked with my PR team on a statement.
63:54I've been on this matter. I worked on it powerfully over the past week.
63:59And I want to say that the hard seltzers made me do it.
64:03I had no choice after drinking three and a half hard seltzers to immediately say, I don't like Tom Petty.
64:10And this is about yucking people's yum. And I try not.
64:14I used to do that all the time. I used to do it as a hobby, Chris.
64:20But I try not to do it. And I did it.
64:23And I feel bad about it. I just want to say, I just want to say, maybe.
64:29Look, I ran it by Rotopat. He said, it is god awful.
64:33You should be ashamed of yourself. Okay? For saying Tom Petty's bad.
64:37I think he's right in saying that I'm just tired of hearing Tom Petty over the years.
64:43And I will say, I really like a Tom Petty album called Southern Accents.
64:48Okay? That's all I'll say on the matter. I definitely don't have anything bad to say about Tom Petty.
64:54And like Pat Finnerty, who folks heard, if you're a Yacht Club subscriber, he's become a friend.
65:00He's a YouTuber. He's absolutely brilliant. He's an unbelievable musician.
65:03But he's a really funny comedian, too. And makes great videos.
65:07And couldn't recommend Pat Finnerty's YouTube channel more. But he is so into Tom Petty.
65:12He just considers him as foundational as the Beatles.
65:15Like, he just loves, loves, loves Tom Petty. He talks about him all the time.
65:20And I don't have anything bad to say. But I would say I don't reach to listen to Tom Petty very often.
65:28It's like, it's roots music that's like deceptively simple.
65:31And it's really hard to pull off. And there are a lot of people over the years who've tried to and couldn't
65:38do it as well as Tom Petty did. But it just doesn't make me, it doesn't compel me to continue to listen constantly, if that makes any sense.
65:47Me too. No, I feel the same way. And for those who say, oh, okay, Denny's too cool for Tom Petty.
65:55Like, he's way too woke for Tom Petty, whatever.
65:58Here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. And I'll be honest about this.
66:02I think a lot of you know this. I like the Eagles.
66:06Unabashedly. I like the Eagles. Okay? So I'm not cool.
66:10And really, it's funny how those two entities should be a pure overlap.
66:14If you like the Eagles, you should like Tom Petty.
66:18It's the same thing. I know. And yet, man, it is so, like Pat would say, he doesn't like the Eagles at all.
66:25And he would say some of the songs are fine, but he would say, eh, I don't really care about the Eagles and I love Tom Petty.
66:35And I probably feel about the same about the two of them, which is I don't reach to listen to either one,
66:42but neither one is like offensive to me. You know what it is?
66:46I grew up with the Eagles playing constantly in my house.
66:50I did too. And I think my family's first CD ever was the Eagles' greatest hits.
66:55Okay. Yeah. I mean, my dad loves the Eagles.
66:59Loves the Eagles. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Last one.
67:02JD says, very personal, but we'll answer it. Do you have an innie or an outie belly button?
67:08I saw that. Let me check. It's an innie.
67:11Me too. I can confirm. I just looked into it.
67:14This seems like not something in a person's control.
67:17Like that's pretty much about the person who gave birth to you, who helped you give birth, you know, who helped your mom give birth.
67:26Yeah. Right. Right. I haven't seen that many outies in the wild.
67:30You? Neither, man. Yeah. No, I mean, do you have to have like a DK Metcalf 12 pack to have an outie?
67:37I mean, because I, you know, I don't, sadly, I don't have that.
67:41Well, Danny, this was such a pleasure to have you on once again for the Riff Fest.
67:47And you made me laugh very hard. My sides ache at the end of this show, always every year.
67:54You can find Danny on Blue Sky. He's a luminary there.
67:57He makes sports fun on Blue Sky. And of course, listen to him and Roto Pat on the Roto World Football Show every dang day.
68:06That's a great show as well. My friend, you're the best.
68:10Thank you for doing it. Thanks so much, Chris.
68:13And thank you so much for listening. What a delight that was.
68:17I laughed a lot. Let's thank the sponsors because with no sponsors, there's no show.
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68:34It is so good. Find all information about today's sponsors in today's show notes.
68:39All the current sponsors are listed at harrisfootball.com. We have a drawing winner for a Zoom session.
68:44I just figured here at the end we would just do Zoom sessions.
68:49This is the second to last of the drawing winners because tomorrow's the grand prize drawing where the person who wins tomorrow
68:56will be on the show next week. That's going to be pretty fun.
69:01The Zoom winner for today, as I cough, Sean Dooley.
69:04Sean Dooley has been listening to the show for a very long time.
69:08We've had some longtime listeners come up. The random number generator has been very kind to the long timers.
69:15I guess we just have a lot of names I know.
69:19I know Sean's name. And so, Sean, I have probably by now emailed you and we will schedule a Zoom here for
69:26the next few days if you have a draft coming up.
69:30We'll make sure we get a Zoom in front of that draft.
69:34It should be really fun. Looking forward to that.
69:37It's not too late. If you hear this on Thursday and register real quick, you can get thrown in the pool to
69:44be a winner for tomorrow's big drawing. And then I will go to sleep.
69:49After that, the Almanac comes out tomorrow, the second edition.
69:52And I'll put the finishing touches on that today, as well as doing a couple of drafts and making a couple of
70:00other appearances on Jake and Matt Waldman's shows. And we'll keep track of what the heck the book is doing as well.
70:07On the actual podcast tomorrow, I'm bearing the lead a little bit because it is the Huggies and Baggies.
70:14You love those awards. I will give out some hardware for what I expect for the season.
70:19But obviously, you'll tolerate it. Clearly, you will tolerate it.
70:23But what you're actually getting and what you're actually there for is Cousin Josh because he will have the Baggie Awards.
70:30He always pulls out all the stops for that as well.
70:34So look forward to being here on Friday as well.
70:37Until then, thanks again so much for listening. Your hat is awesome.
70:41You're awesome for wearing it. I will talk to you tomorrow.
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