0:00Oh boy. I mean, look at that timing. Look at that.
0:03That worked out perfectly. What's going on, everyone? Yeah.
0:06I'm Matt Harmon. Welcome to the Yahoo Fantasy Forecast presented by Versed.
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0:19We are here in Buffalo, New York at Dick's House of Sport.
0:22I mean, this is incredible. Love that all of you are here.
0:26Absolutely fantastic. I'm here because it's a hell of a day to talk ball and joining me to do just that is
0:32my guys, Justin Boone and Josh Norris. Josh, what's going on, buddy?
0:36We're in an audience full of winners. I mean, I got to speak to a number of them.
0:41Talked to Ruben. I talked to Damien. I talked to RJ.
0:44They all won last year. So no losers allowed over here.
0:47It's all winners. They all thanked me for telling them to draft Christian McCaffrey last year.
0:52So we're in a good place right now. I'm pretty surprised that they showed up.
0:57They don't really even need us. I know. They graduated beyond us.
1:00They can do the show. They know all my talking points ahead of this.
1:04So it's going to be a great one. And for me, this is the first time when someone's been from my hometown
1:10at one of our shows, Niagara Falls. Like, shout out.
1:13Look at that. Love to see it. Absolutely. I mean, you're pretty much in your own backyard here.
1:19I mean, almost. Yes. Grew up in Niagara Falls.
1:21Still only live about an hour or so away.
1:24So, yeah, nice little drive down for me today and beautiful weather and great to be here with everybody.
1:29I will say, I mentioned RJ. I would say the over-under is about 15 years of age for RJ.
1:35And immediately he said, I'm a membership to the Strib Club.
1:38And I was like, ah. The show on Stribling, number one drafted player this year for him.
1:43That's your one Stribling mention. It's over. You can't bring him up ever again.
1:47We are going to bring up a lot of players here on today's show because we've got, since we're in the backyard
1:54of the Buffalo Bills, we figured a little theme show for the day, 12 players.
1:58The three of us are willing to jump through the table for here for the 2026 fantasy football season.
2:04And Josh, I'm going to let you kick this off here.
2:07Who is your first player that you're willing to jump through the table for?
2:11Saquon Barkley. All right. 15th overall consensus. I have Saquon Barkley 7th overall this season.
2:15I mean, all summer long, everyone's heard it. It's all about what Sean Mannion is going to be able to pluck out of.
2:22Jalen Hurts as a passer. Devontae Smith moving into A.J.
2:25Brown's wide receiver one role. None of it matters.
2:27None of it. Unless Saquon Barkley can get back on track and, you know, be the runner that he was a couple seasons ago.
2:34I mean, when he was second in rush yards before contact, second in explosive plays with 77 of them.
2:40I mean, Matt had rushing scores of 72, 70, 68, 65, 39, all that type of stuff.
2:45So I know there's this big cluster of one-two turn running backs.
2:48To me, that is not a cluster that Saquon Barkley should belong in.
2:52In fact, he should be in the middle of round one.
2:55I think we look back on it and Saquon might be the guy that you needed this year in fantasy football.
3:01Yeah, just huge differences from what he was two years ago fantasy-wise to what he was last year.
3:07I think a big part of that was the offensive line injuries, right?
3:11You have three very good offensive line and deal with injuries throughout the year.
3:15That completely changed the offense. Completely changed the run game.
3:17This year, very easy schedule, gentlemen. The third easiest schedule for fantasy running backs.
3:22You love to see that when you're talking about a talented player with all these signs pointing towards this offense potentially bouncing back.
3:28I agree with Josh here. Oh, love it. Well, that's off to a good start.
3:33I really should have reminded the folks who came to today's event that if you had printed out your copy of Justin
3:39Boone's Strength of Schedule Matrix, he will sign it for you after this.
3:43It's a collector's edition. I might have to get it tattooed on me somewhere.
3:47You don't have it yet? No, not yet. Not yet.
3:50Okay. It would be nice. Color coordinated and everything.
3:52On a boon's note about the offensive line, if you look at their best offensive lineman last year and this year as
3:59well with, you know, Jordan Mailata, Dickerson, Juergens, Steen, Johnson, those guys only played together for 42% of snaps last year.
4:05I mean, if we get that up with some injury luck on our side up to 70% this season, again, that gets
4:11back to why this is such a big deal because Saquon is the one that changes the coverage.
4:17He's the one that changes the math on the back end for Jalen Hurts and Devante Smith and your guy, Dontavian Wicks,
4:23and maybe Makai Lemon makes an appearance at some point to really have a great season this year.
4:28My guy, Dontavian Wicks. Feels good to say that.
4:31I mean, I did butt into some of your conversations, and I think in two of them you were talking about Dontavian Wicks earlier today.
4:38Only two? Only two. You missed a couple of the others.
4:41So, okay, let's give the people brass tacks here.
4:44Yes. They're on the clock late in the first round.
4:47I think that's where Barkley's going to go off the board.
4:50Overall, though, where do you have him ranked? I actually have him above Christian McCaffrey.
4:54Like, whoo! Thank you! I love this! I love the crowd!
4:58I love it. So, last year was the year to be in on CMC, as some audience members know.
5:03I think this year is the year you need to be on Saquon Barkley.
5:07And we're drafting all these other running backs, again, in that cluster, thinking like Ashton Gentry before, and we know that he
5:14has departed from that group, thinking, well, yeah, maybe the mystery box, they can be the running back one overall.
5:20Just two seasons ago, Saquon Barkley was the running back one overall, and people just, you know, are a bit hurt of
5:26drafting him last year so early that I think they're forgetting just how good he was two seasons ago.
5:31Yeah, for sure. Not that we want to sit here and put down CMC, but you could make an argument towards him
5:38maybe not doing what he did last year, right?
5:41Like, 450 touches when you add in the playoff games.
5:43He's over 30 now. Like, there are a lot of red flags with him that you get worried.
5:49The other guys that have had that much work that went on to have good fantasy seasons, they were like 25 years old and younger.
5:56They weren't 30 when they were doing that. So, I often have been trying when I'm doing my rankings updates to keep moving CMC down.
6:03I haven't gone as far as you to put Barkley over him yet, but I have continuously moved him down, and I
6:10don't want to take him where he normally does go, which is like in the top six or so.
6:15The reality is with McCaffrey, right? It's either he's the best player in fantasy football or he ruins your season.
6:21Yes. You know, and I get why some people don't want to make that click this year.
6:26It's a compelling argument for Barkley over him there.
6:29So, for me right now, I've got him as my 10th overall player.
6:32So, I'm one spot ahead of ADP on Saquon Barkley.
6:35So, you know, maybe if you're like, hypothetically, Josh, let's say somebody was in a draft next week.
6:41Yes. Tuesday, maybe? Tuesday, maybe at like 5 p.m.
6:43Eastern. Yes. Live on the Yahoo Fantasy YouTube channel.
6:46For like three hours with 11 other people that do this for a living.
6:50For like three hours. And they have the 8th overall pick.
6:53Yes. And one of their, you know, work proximity associates who really loves Saquon Barkley has the 10th overall pick.
6:59You would think maybe that person should take Saquon Barkley 8th overall.
7:02Yeah, my tenure at Yahoo might end after two months if you take Saquon 8th ahead of me at 10th.
7:08Don't tell me we're a good time. When we were at dinner the other day and Josh started asking us, who are
7:15you guys going to take in that draft? I'm picking 3rd and Harmon's 8th.
7:19I was trying to get some info. And I was like, I thought he was just doing it to make conversation.
7:25Now I realize, yeah, he was definitely trying to get some info.
7:28Well, I am feeling great inside my limitless button-down shirt with the limitless pants.
7:32And you guys know who has limitless lifespan in the NFL?
7:36Well, my second player, or my first player, the second player overall that I'm willing to jump through the table for in 2026, that's Derrick Henry.
7:43Listen, I get it. Derrick Henry is an outlier in terms of how old he is.
7:48He's our age. Dude, he's way younger than us.
7:50Some of our ages. Some of our ages. None of our ages.
7:54I am older than Derrick Henry, and I'm still very much in the prime of my life.
7:59So, not like you two, by the way. But with Derrick Henry, there's no signs of the decline.
8:04And I think we are pricing in as if we've already seen some level of drop-off with him.
8:09Last year, his yards before contact dropped down from 2.41 in 2024 to 1.6.
8:13But his yards after contact actually went up from 2024 to 2025.
8:17That's typically like a metric we would look at to say, okay, this running back is starting to maybe tail off in
8:23terms of the physical ability, the breakaway runs. He had his best games towards the end of the season when they were
8:30like, oh, right, we should maybe just try to give the ball to our best player, especially as our quarterback is hurt.
8:36There might be a reason that coaching staff is no longer there in Baltimore anymore.
8:41So, when I get into the second round, I routinely find Derrick Henry available late.
8:45And for me, I think he's much more closer to a 1-2 turn player.
8:49I mean, simply put, boys, like I'm going to be the last one still planting the flag on Derrick Henry Island.
8:55I will be there until the wheels fall off, but I don't think this is the year where it falls off.
9:01I think I'm the opposite. Like, and even if I am a year early and he does have one more good season,
9:08I'd rather get off the ride a year early.
9:10We've talked about Ryan Heath at Fantasy Points has done some really good stuff on age curves, right?
9:15And if you look at it, a running back entering year 11, they tend to put up around 60% of their career baseline averages.
9:22We can throw all of this out the window if we want to with Derrick Henry, and he's just one of one.
9:29That's possible. But I'll look at it even another way.
9:32He had a couple, like, lighter seasons to start his career.
9:35He wasn't, like, really heavy workhorse kind of guy.
9:38So, if we take those two away. Splitting work with Deion Lewis back in the day.
9:42Right, right? Shout out. So, if we take those away and we say, what if it's more like his ninth season this year, right?
9:49That is exactly on the age curve when the first big decline starts to happen for running backs.
9:55And he's a bigger guy, and I feel like when the end does come, it's going to come very quickly for him.
10:01So, for me, to take him in the second round, it just seems too expensive.
10:05I would agree with you more, Boone, if... It was anyone else?
10:09Not an alien? Well, that's why the number one thing is, like, well, those stats don't take into account, like, this guy's just built different.
10:16We saw the video of him earlier. He quite literally is built different.
10:20But the other part of this, too, is that the Ravens are making the same bet that I am.
10:25They've not brought in any real, like, insurance plan here.
10:28The pick that they added was in the fifth round, Adam Randall, the owner's, you know, pet pick.
10:34Right. So, I don't know what that means. Probably nothing.
10:36But for Derrick Henry, like, this is an offense, Josh, we're excited about, and this is the featured player of said offense.
10:43Just to highlight how much of a unicorn he is.
10:46Again, 16 touchdowns last year, age 31. Only nine other players in league history have as many seasons with double-digit touchdowns.
10:52If he does it again this year, again, he gets 16 last year.
10:56If he just gets 10 this year, he enters a group of Jerry Rice, LaDainian Tomlinson, Emmitt Smith, and Randy Moss.
11:02That's it. Pretty good players. That's the list. That's the group that Derrick Henry almost certainly is going to join this year.
11:08And on top of that, Baltimore is currently, again, we haven't kicked the ball yet, but currently, favorite in 14 games this year.
11:15That's time for the third most in the league.
11:18And that's the thing. He walks into the season with 10 touchdowns in his back pocket.
11:22Like, that is the reality of it. He might not be involved in the pass game.
11:27Now they're saying, like, oh, maybe we'll throw him the ball a little bit more.
11:31That never happens. But even still, like, I also think great fit, too, stylistically as a zone-based runner in what Declan Doyle is likely bringing in here.
11:39So, to me, it just, other than the age, and I get it, that is the big red flag.
11:45There's pretty much no negative in his portfolio at this point.
11:48Big question for you. There are, like, maybe two or three sections of drafts this year, pockets, that I think are going
11:54to make wins and losses, champions and, you know, contenders this year.
11:58I think that one-two turn, again, of running backs is that.
12:01So, I'm going to list off the ones going at the top of round two on Yahoo right now.
12:06Ashton Gentty, Devon Achan, Ken Walker III, Chase Brown, Derrick Henry, Omari Hampton.
12:10What's your line of where you're going to take Derrick Henry among some of the others that are selected above him right now?
12:17Right now, I have Henry 13th overall. Okay. And I've told you this, that there's three guys in that, like, just late
12:23first round, early second that I keep rotating. It's Kenneth Walker, it's Justin Jefferson, and it's Derrick Henry.
12:29Right now, I've got it Walker, Henry, Jefferson. But earlier this week, I had it Walker, Jefferson, Henry.
12:34So, ask me tomorrow. I think, ask me tomorrow for sure.
12:37Like, after I think about it on the flight back, I might have it.
12:41I might have it. Jefferson, Henry Walker. I don't really know.
12:44But again, there are risks with the Kenneth Walker profile.
12:47There are risks, certainly with the Devon Achan profile, with Omari and Hampton.
12:51Like, to me, you're taking Omari and Hampton hoping he is going to be Derrick Henry.
12:56100%. I will just take Derrick Henry, even if, yes, Boone, I know what you're going to say.
13:01He's 10 years older than the other human. Do we see, like, a top five ceiling for him this year?
13:07Like, do we? I know the touchdowns. I see the high floor.
13:10I see he walks through the door and there's double-digit touchdowns.
13:13Absolutely. We've seen many guys in that Ravens offense and that Ravens backfield do it.
13:18Like, do we see the high end outcomes for him?
13:21Because if I'm going to take him that early in the second round, I want to be able to tell myself a
13:27story that he can finish among the top five.
13:30And I just, I don't feel confident. But I will also say, in terms of players that I'm scared are going to
13:36make me look foolish, he's absolutely one of them, right?
13:39Like, he is that guy. Yeah. I mean, the reality is, like, this is a player that I just absolutely would jump
13:46to the table for because he's just someone that I really like rooting for as well.
13:50And that might also be part of, you know, the calculation here.
13:54I want to win with Derrick Henry on my team.
13:57But I think that he can have a top five season this year because I think the offense under Declan Doyle is
14:03just going to be so much better than what we got last year when the quarterback was hurt.
14:08And again, they, like, went long stretches without getting him involved.
14:11And then, again, they did get him involved late in the season.
14:15And he had some of his best years. So I see a top five ceiling within the range of outcomes.
14:21But there are, because, again, if he walks in with 10 touchdowns, touchdowns matter quite a bit per the math.
14:27Yeah. No, it raises the ceiling. It's when he doesn't have enough passing work to get up there.
14:32And when you are carrying that risk still. We can't just wash it under the table and be like, no, no, no.
14:38No, you're right. He's one of one. I'm like, I still am going to add that risk in there.
14:44But I agree. I see the argument. I see that he's one of one.
14:48He is a Hall of Famer superstar. And he might continue to make me look foolish year after year.
14:53Very niche point. I know many of the viewers and probably people here play in PPR leagues.
14:58I think Derrick Henry is the most often mis-drafted player in PPR leagues.
15:02Right now, if you look at consensus rankings, 37 overall Derrick Henry is in PPR rankings at this point, despite last year
15:09finishing as the seventh overall running back in PPR.
15:11Like, people just have in their minds, oh, if he doesn't get receptions, I'm not going to draft him versus, you know,
15:18scoring 16 freaking touchdowns is more important than 20 extra receptions on his plate.
15:22Yeah. I like to see it. Running back seven last year in half point PPR.
15:26And full. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty good player. Two spots?
15:29I think we can improve two spots here, Boone, just with the offense being a little bit better.
15:34But we got a little theme going here for the first segment.
15:37We're at the running back position here. Boone, who is your first player that you're willing to jump through the table for?
15:44I'm going to take a guy that just got mentioned in that last one in Chase Brown.
15:49And man, like, I'm looking at what I'm wearing today.
15:52I'm feeling good. You look comfortable. It's like, it's like versatile.
15:55It's like the kind of thing like you could wear all day long.
15:59Right? And the player that I'm picking here in Chase Brown is a guy that is extremely versatile.
16:04A guy that in that Bengals backfield has very little competition.
16:07I know some people are worried about Smasje P.
16:10Ryan. Are there people that are worried about Smasje P.
16:13There are some that are worried. The argument being that he had a good finish to last year because Smasje P.
16:19Ryan wasn't around. Smasje P. Ryan's family is worried.
16:21Yeah. That he's going to. I'm worried about the people who are worried about Smasje P.
16:26Ryan. I'm glad that nobody on this stage is worried about it because I look at Chase Brown as somebody that can do it all.
16:33Right? He's a player that last year wasn't just good as a runner, was also good as a pass catcher.
16:39Top five among running backs and targets and receptions.
16:42And it was kind of a tale of two seasons for him.
16:45And that's where I think people, you know, might be downgrading him just a little when you're talking about that group of
16:52backs in that same range at the end of the first and into the second.
16:56Because if you look at what happened to him last year, early in the season, I was very high on him.
17:02We talked about him last summer as a player that I thought people should be drafting.
17:07And then he starts the year. The schedule was tough.
17:10And Joe Burrow gets hurt. And that offense, now we have Jake Browning out there.
17:14They're going through the hardest part of the schedule.
17:17And Chase Brown wasn't that good. And people started to worry and trade him away.
17:21We were getting questions on the panic meter episodes constantly about him.
17:25And yet, once we got even Joe Flacco out there to just kind of stabilize the quarterback position, and then eventually Joe
17:31Burrow comes back, we see all of a sudden Chase Brown goes back to being the guy that I thought he could
17:37be over the last 10 games with Flacco and Burrow.
17:40The RB3 in fantasy points per game, 19.1 fantasy points per game in the fantasy playoffs, just completely went off.
17:4623.7 fantasy points per game. You look at it this year, and I am a little bit worried about the schedule in
17:53terms of the run defenses that they face early in the season.
17:56But that's why I go back to the versatility point where he's going to be able to catch passes in those games.
18:02He's going to find other ways to score for fantasy.
18:05He's somebody that I really want in that range.
18:08And the only thing I've had to do, Josh, is figure out how much is too much Chase Brown.
18:13Because I had him really at the top of that grouping for a while, realized I was getting him in 100% of leagues.
18:20And then I had to kind of adjust and take a little more Saquon Barkley, Kenneth Walker, just to diversify because we're in so many leagues.
18:28You can't have the same guy in every single one.
18:31I think you could make the argument that Chase Brown has the best environment for a running back in the NFL for multiple reasons.
18:38One, only Devon Achan, Bijan Robinson, Jameer Gibbs have more receptions than Chase Brown among running backs over the last two years.
18:44He played 74% of the snaps of the Bengals inside of the red zone last season.
18:49That's running back five across the league. All five starters return for this Bengals offensive line.
18:53The Bengals are currently favored, again, we haven't kicked a ball yet, in 15 games this year.
18:58And as you know, the big talking point of training camp has been more and more under center work.
19:04That directly impacts Chase Brown in a positive way.
19:06Shotgun runs can be notoriously tough because you're really minimizing the certain angles that these running backs can attack.
19:12So again, all this stuff is just accentuating the environment of someone who already plays around 75%, 80% if someone is unhealthy
19:18behind them at the running back position. That's where I felt that on the surface, you kind of look at Chase Brown
19:25and think like, you know, this is a day three draft pick.
19:28Have we already kind of seen the ceiling for him as a player?
19:32But I do think that environmental point is really key here because we always talk about these great play callers.
19:38What do they do? Number one, you want to blend the run in the pass game.
19:43You want to marry the run in the pass game so that everything looks the same, right?
19:48Pre-snap, post-snap, the whole deal. The Bengals might be like the most siloed team in the NFL where you know what they
19:54look like when they're going to pass. And when they tried it, especially when it was Joe Mixon, it's like, well, that's a run play.
20:01You know what's going to be happening here. So if they can manage to blur those lines even just a little bit,
20:08I think that that is really how Chase Brown takes a step up from a tier two, maybe high tier three running
20:14back into maybe that first tier of backs this year.
20:17The question is just like, how confident are we that they pull off what I do think?
20:22Yeah, a pretty sizable transition from what they've always been and what their quarterback likes to do.
20:27Yeah, he hates looking away from the defense. Hates it.
20:30Like, what's your confidence level that they were able to pull that off?
20:34Well, I mean, the other confident point is if they fail enough and they'll just go back to doing what they did
20:40previously and they still score a lot of points.
20:43Great point. Yeah. Yeah. The floor is really high for Chase Brown in that scenario.
20:47And I just like when everything's pointing in the same direction.
20:50We're talking about all these stats. We've seen him do it before for a big stretch of last season, but also just
20:57all of the talk around Cincinnati is this guy is a focal point of the offense, right?
21:02And we keep hearing that over and over this offseason.
21:04That just has to make you excited, too. So all in on Chase.
21:08Okay, well, then I have to ask you the same question that I asked Matt.
21:13Okay. We have that cluster of second round running backs.
21:16I'll list them again right now on Yahoo. Jinty, A-Chan, Ken Walker, Chase Brown, Derrick Henry, Omar and Hampton.
21:21How high are you pushing Chase Brown among that group?
21:24So and we've talked about this, I think, on other shows and we've talked about this just you and I.
21:30I think that group is so close that I'm not going to spend too much time debating it.
21:35I had him at the top of that group for a while.
21:39Wow. And like I mentioned earlier, I bumped him down behind Saquon and behind Kenneth Walker in part to make sure I get some of those guys.
21:46Yeah. And also because the people that follow me, I don't want everyone getting Chase Brown on their team because you have to watch that.
21:54I want to make sure that people know with the rankings.
21:57You don't follow it just blindly. Well, if it's a guy you need, then having him 100% of the time would be great.
22:04The only leagues you're in though, right? Like when I'm in 20 plus managed leagues, I have to be a little bit careful with that.
22:11You said 20 now? One or two. He added two last night.
22:14Yeah. It was 18 last year. I dropped a few and then we've added some charity ones and some office ones.
22:20And yeah, I have him in the same spot.
22:23So only Saquon and Ken Walker III ahead of him in that group.
22:27And right at the top of the second round.
22:30I want all of those running backs before I get into any more receivers.
22:34Am I an idiot for having A-Chan over Chase Brown?
22:37I mean, talk about the environmental differences. Yeah, right, right.
22:39I hear you. But I mean, he was an 18 point per game player last year in half PPR.
22:45He was. That was also Mike McDaniel calling plays.
22:48Bobby Slok was on the staff though. Yeah. You can make that case if you want to.
22:53It is a true statement of fact what I said.
22:55That he was on the staff last year. I have no rebuttal.
22:59No. He was in the meeting rooms. You can't debate it.
23:02He was in the building. He was wearing the Dolphins hat.
23:05Okay. So he was on the staff last year.
23:08Yes. He loses what? Four points per game. I still think a lot of scenarios there where it was probably the earlier
23:14checkdowns from Tua that Devon Achan is going to be catching those passes.
23:18Yeah. In my scenario here, it's going to be a lot of trailing in the fourth quarter.
23:23Does get a few checkdowns there from Malik Willis.
23:26And then the other 50% of those plays will just be him scrambling.
23:30So, I mean, I have a one spot difference here.
23:32Well, I've got him 15 to Achan. I've got 17.
23:35But like one spot, two spot differences matter so much.
23:38In the second round. You only have one pick that you can make during that section.
23:43And I don't want to be a snake eating its tail here right now.
23:47But the Derrick Henry, I think Devon Achan conversation is a tough one too.
23:51I don't think that's tough. I would take Henry over Achan every single time.
23:55And Chase Brown. I mean, I would take Henry over Achan.
23:58But then I think we are debating Derrick Henry versus Devon Achan.
24:02I would take Achan in that one. I really would.
24:05Look at this. The 32 going to be 33 in January is a very early birthday, right?
24:10We talk about guys all the time when it's like, well, he's going to turn this in December.
24:15January is not that far. I think his birthday is like January 2nd or something like that.
24:20It's like so close. So he's on the older side of 32.
24:23That's how they work. We're just, we're really breaking it.
24:26No, but he's on the older side. As someone that has a December birthday.
24:30Yes. I always think about that, right? But yeah, that's what, it just worries me with him.
24:35Where Achan, I can see him even in this environment, just getting by with volume.
24:40We know the talents there. Getting by with volume.
24:42Still being in the passing game so much. Though, I'm at least a little interested in the receivers in Miami now.
24:48This summer, it's been kind of exciting to see Chris Bell come back this early and start to maybe work in like he's going to.
24:56And to see what he could potentially become in this offense.
24:59And if that happens, maybe the Miami offense isn't quite as bad as we all think.
25:04I think there might be a little bit of double counting in Miami.
25:07Just going like, what about Lake Willis? What about the receivers?
25:11What about this? What if we start to get just average out of some of those positions?
25:16Or potentially even better. Maybe Achan doesn't have to fall quite as far.
25:19So I've taken him in some spots. I will admit it's probably more best ball stuff where I'm not going to have to manage it week to week.
25:28And I'm probably not going to have to watch the Dolphins games.
25:31Because as a Bills fan, I don't want to have to watch the Dolphins games week in and week out.
25:37But for me, it's still Achan over Henry. Man, this is how you guys know we've done way too many pods in August.
25:44When you get to the point that not only is Boone saying like, I think that Dolphins offense could be kind of interesting.
25:50I said it last week too. So that's when you know like, okay, we need to get the real games started here.
25:57Listen, while you guys are preparing for your drafts, everyone here, everyone listening, watching at home, we have a live draft coming up.
26:03Yes. September 1st at 5 p.m. Eastern. As I mentioned earlier, this was the league I was hinting at.
26:09Our Yahoo Fantasy Analyst draft is happening on the YouTube channel.
26:12We would love it if you guys would check that out.
26:15I have the eighth pick. I was the human I was mentioning earlier.
26:19Achan has the ninth pick and I have the tenth pick.
26:22And you have the tenth and meanwhile, Boone's got the third pick.
26:26I know you're deep in the weeds right now strategizing for that third pick.
26:30I'm not excited about it. I hope I'm just hoping one of the running backs and if it was going to be
26:36one of the running backs, it would be Bajon Robinson.
26:39I'm hoping one of them falls to me at three.
26:42I don't think that's going to happen. I'm going to have to go receiver.
26:46And then I was joking again, this ties into what you just said about as we go on through the summer and
26:53we've done this so much and talked about so many different things and done all these drafts.
26:58I'm at the point where I want to go completely against the way I've drafted most leagues.
27:02And maybe I will consider going a little zero RB, pushing running backs down later and just seeing how that turns out.
27:09And my guess is it probably would not turn out very well.
27:12I think the tenth pick is perfect. That's exactly where I wanted to be for this.
27:17I'm so excited to get like two of my favorite players on that turn no matter what.
27:22Yeah, I want it to be either one pick earlier or a tenth.
27:26Yes. Eighth, I've got some mixed feelings. You have to make the decisions really.
27:30Really, exactly. And I don't know whether to take Saquon Barkley at eight just to troll you or like, how do I navigate that situation?
27:37Or, you know, stick to the rankings that you send out to hundreds of thousands of people and the advice that you
27:44give instead of just getting on my nerves. You know, I don't really know which is more important to me.
27:49My integrity as an analyst, as a ranker or a troll to my friends.
27:53It's really hard to say which is more important to me.
27:57Josh, a player that is very important to you.
27:59Yeah. Is your second player that you're willing to jump through the table for here this season?
28:04Parker Washington, the real wide receiver one of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
28:07I've been on this all summer long. And why stop now?
28:11When Parker Washington, Jacoby Myers, Brian Thomas were all on the field together last year, Parker Washington had a team high 31%
28:17target share, 3.17 yards per route run. And, you know, just like the mixed and matched burst fit that I'm wearing right
28:23now of a long sleeve with shorts. We know that Parker Washington can play outside, can play inside.
28:29This is exactly the type of piece that you want at the wide receiver spot.
28:3363% of his snaps last year were in the slot with that personnel grouping I mentioned.
28:38And that's exactly what we want from Liam Cohen.
28:40We know the history he has with slot wide receivers and especially ones that work into like that 10 to 15 intermediate portion of the field.
28:48I just think Parker Washington, if he wasn't a later round NFL draft pick, more and more and more people would continue to get on board with him.
28:56I mean, my rankings are probably pretty absurd with him.
28:59I've been 55th overall. He's going 64th in consensus rankings right now.
29:02And I just think he's going to emerge as the go-to player for this high power Jacksonville Jaguars offense.
29:08I mean, we already saw it happen down the stretch last year and the schedule was easy.
29:13The schedule is easy again for the whole season this year.
29:16The sixth easiest fantasy schedule for receivers. I don't really see where the argument against him comes from at this point because
29:23you could have gone into this offseason and said, OK, other guys are stepping up.
29:27The coaching staff's talking everyone up. Maybe he's not going to be that guy.
29:31It's the complete opposite. It's Liam Cohen saying that he's texting him after hours and that he's getting a response about how
29:37he's ready to kill for him and all this stuff.
29:40They are fired up about him being the number one receiver there.
29:44And again, going back to what I said about Chase Brown, where you want everything pointing in the right direction.
29:50We're hearing it from the coaching staff. We've seen it happen before last season.
29:54From a fantasy perspective, he was great. 90 yards and or a touchdown in five of his last seven games.
30:00Was the wide receiver 19 in fantasy points per game over the final nine weeks.
30:04Those are great, great numbers to get from a guy that's going very much later than that in drafts.
30:09I think analyst wise, I think a lot of people have been on him.
30:14We've talked about him quite a bit. We've been trying to push him up.
30:18He's still going 76th overall on Yahoo right now.
30:20I'm being surprised by where the ADP is because it's not catching up.
30:24I don't know why people aren't listening to us, Josh, but they should.
30:28It was in the 90s to start. So it has definitely gotten pushed up a little, which the 90s, that was insane.
30:34Yes. Well, and where you're getting him, you're not getting him expecting him to be your wide receiver two or even wide receiver one.
30:41You're getting him as a wide receiver three, maybe even a flex play.
30:45And yet he has that clear upside that he's already shown.
30:48I mean, on Yahoo, the three wide receivers going around to my Marvin Harrison Jr., Carnell Tate and his teammate in Brian Thomas Jr.
30:55And then at the end of that round is DK Metcalf.
30:58Like it's not even a conversation. When I get to round seven, my eyes are solely locked on Parker Washington and not on any other player.
31:06It's not often, Matt, I get to sit six feet away from Mr.
31:10Reception Perception himself. So for the people. I'm looking at the chart right now.
31:14I got it. I got it on the screen.
31:16I'm surprised it's not ingrained in your eyeballs. What does Parker Washington do well?
31:21So this is going to be one of my points in favor of Parker Washington for you here is that I think
31:27the way that they found the right role for him later in the season really matters here.
31:32Because when you look at his full season, I write this in his profile.
31:36There's actually some discouraging notes from the first half of the season.
31:39But you have to remember, like he was playing as an outside receiver then, which just made no sense.
31:45And this was a coaching staff that basically tried to push Parker Washington to the side, which honestly makes it even more
31:51bullish that they're talking about him now like this because they've seen the proof is in the pudding.
31:57Like not only were they trying to make Brian Thomas Jr.
32:00be the number one last year, like working as the in-breaking player in that offense.
32:04They obviously drafted Travis Hunter and played him as a receiver.
32:07They signed Deami Brown, played him over Parker Washington, which is pretty insane.
32:11I honestly forgot that happened. Oh, I'll never forget that.
32:14Because I was like, Deami Brown, what are we talking about here?
32:18And Parker Washington was a guy that I called Bud Light Golden Tate coming into the league.
32:23And now I kind of think he's just like full ABV Golden Tate because not only won, again, they found the right
32:29role for him as a slot-based player. At the end of the season, he didn't even hit a 60% slot rate until week 15.
32:36Like it was very late that they found him to be a slot-first player.
32:40From that on, like an 82% success rate versus zone, which is like a top 10-ish number in the NFL if you extend it over a full season.
32:48And he was probably the best contested catch receiver I charted last year, probably the best tackle breaker I charted last year.
32:55I mean, he wins small and he wins big.
32:57Like that combo is typically… He's bigger than you think too, like 5'10", 205.
33:01Like he's pretty strong and squatty. I'm not saying these guys, but the headliners for that side of a player is like
33:08Odell or Steve Smith, like the can win small and win big.
33:11And I'm not saying he's on that plan. He's not that type of separator in one-on-one situations.
33:16But being able to do both, especially when you work over the middle, and that's so important for Liam's offense to me just stands out so much.
33:24I misspoke. I've been 51st overall, not 55th. I think there's some concerns about that offensive line, but they kind of did
33:30a pretty good job of like hiding up some of the worries about the offensive line last year.
33:36So I feel pretty confident that Liam Cullen, that coaching staff, is going to be able to.
33:41And if they aren't, it might lead to more short throws.
33:44It might lead to more Parker Washington plays. So I think he'll be fine regardless.
33:48Initially coming into the offseason, I did have Brian Thomas Jr.
33:51ranked ahead of Parker Washington. Remember, you were on our show telling us that.
33:56But one of the biggest variables that I think has changed that is that it sounds like when they do integrate Travis
34:02Hunter as a receiver, it's going to be actually as an outside X, which I think suits Travis's skill set much more
34:08than kind of the slot Mickey Mouse stuff, which means that they were doing last year, which means that when Travis comes
34:15on the field, it's going to be like BTJ that comes off the field.
34:19It'll be Jacoby Myers, not Parker Washington. At least that's the story you can tell yourself.
34:23But this leads me into the player that I would jump through the table for here, my second one.
34:29And ultimately, Josh, like I hear your points about Parker Washington, Boone, I hear your points about Parker Washington.
34:35And there are still some people that have a lot of hope for Brian Thomas Jr.
34:39I do actually have a lot of hope for BTJ.
34:42From a fantasy standpoint, I think it will be up and down.
34:46But he's going to, I think, be a way better player individually than he was last year because he's going to be healthy this year.
34:53I still think Travis Hunter is going to get integrated on like 20% to 30% of the routes.
34:58Like Jacoby Myers is just the ultimate not going to go away.
35:02He's going to be better in real life than in fantasy.
35:05But, I mean, he basically saved their offense last year from week 10 on.
35:09That was when they finally found their groove as an offense, just settled everything down.
35:13They gave him a contract extension. His quarterback, Trevor Lawrence, was number four in passing touchdowns from week 10 on.
35:19That was when Lawrence really found himself. And they're going to be integrating all these multiple tight end sets this year.
35:25I do ultimately think this receiver core could be a little bit of whack-a-mole.
35:29It could be a little bit like the Green Bay Packers of old where it's this real rotation base.
35:35So I sit here and throw all that out there.
35:38And I just think to myself, well, instead of trying to solve this puzzle, instead of trying to crack this nut, which
35:44I think will be difficult here, why not just draft the quarterback?
35:48Like, why not just draft the guy who's going to be throwing the ball to all of those really interesting players with
35:54the great play caller who had a career high in rushing production last year?
35:58Carries over 350 yards, nine touchdowns, really took off as a scrambler.
36:02I think Trevor Lawrence is the guy to jump through the table for because we can sit here and play the guessing game with the receivers.
36:09I know who's going to get the football every single play, and that's going to be Trevor Lawrence.
36:14So to me, when I get into that third tier of quarterbacks where I really like shopping this year, we've talked about this so much, Boone.
36:22It's such a deep position this year. But Lawrence stands out as one of those priority targets in that kind of 80s,
36:28like the eighth round type play there. Yeah, you can basically draft your entire starting lineup in terms of running backs, receivers,
36:35tight end, and then come back and hit that group and look at quarterbacks.
36:39And he's certainly one of them that I want to go after.
36:42I mean, we saw it last year. He didn't look comfortable the entire season.
36:46He really got more comfortable as the year went on, and yet he was still a top six fantasy quarterback in fantasy points per game.
36:54Like, that's the kind of upside that he offers.
36:56And then you go back to what happened down the stretch, right?
37:00Top five fantasy QB in four of his last five outings.
37:03Now he's showing that consistency. And again, not to harp on the schedule, guys, but if people want to look back and
37:09say, well, the schedule is just so easy for him down the stretch, and he was kind of a merchant on that,
37:16well, the schedule this year is great, like I mentioned with Parker Washington.
37:20So he's going to have a smooth runway. He's going to be more comfortable in this offense, and he's already shown us he can do it.
37:27I was laughing because the first, what, Matt, three or four weeks of last season, his wide receivers had no clue where to line up.
37:35No clue. The three snap penalties were absurd. I think they broke the record for, like, illegal procedure or illegal motions, illegal shifts, the whole deal.
37:42It was real bad. Travis Hunter's at the heart of it, Brian Thomas Jr., all that type of stuff.
37:48So you would like to think in year two of this system, they don't set themselves up for first and 15s, and
37:54instead you get some first and 10s and all that.
37:57Boone, just to ask you, we know Matt pretty well.
38:00Do you buy this? Do you buy this as a player for him that, you know, he is willing?
38:05Because, like, again, last year he was, what, the quarterback six at points per game.
38:10He's going as the quarterback 10. That 10 to 6 is based on the nine rushing scores versus the four to five
38:16rushing scores, and maybe because they're moving 80% of their offensive linemen into new places that, like, on a negative note, that
38:23might force him to scramble a little bit more and get some more rushing on top of it.
38:28But I'm not sure if I'm getting a full commitment here from Matt.
38:32I'll ask you a question. Yeah, go ahead. Do you believe what Josh is saying right now, or is he just trying
38:38to figure out if you're going to take Trevor Lawrence in the draft on Tuesday?
38:42I think there could be some of that. Let me go ahead and back this up with some hard data.
38:48Okay. A little table here. Fortunately, everyone else can't see this, so this is really good video podcasting here.
38:54I've got this ADP tool that compares my rankings versus ADP.
38:57This one green spot here where I'm seven spots ahead.
39:00That's Trevor Lawrence, buddy. So, yeah, that's proven with data that I believe what I say.
39:05How dare you question my integrity in front of all these people?
39:08For the people, you know? But to help people draft me, we talked about the running backs in that range of the
39:14one-two turn and how I kind of like all of them.
39:18I'm willing to take all of them. The quarterbacks in that range, yes, you like Trevor Lawrence, but it's kind of the same thing.
39:25It's like just wait for the value. If it's Dak Prescott, if it's Lawrence, if it's Brock Purdy, if you get lucky
39:31in like a Jalen Hurts or somebody from the tier kind of above in my mind falls to that range, which I've
39:37seen happen, you just want to grab a quarterback there and you'll feel really good about it.
39:42Our guy Scott Pianowski says it really well. It's like a New York subway station.
39:47You miss one train and another one's coming. Someone takes a quarterback, another one's coming right behind you, so don't worry about it.
39:53So, yeah, I mean, listen, I love Trevor Lawrence this year.
39:57I'm really excited about the whole Trevor Lawrence experience.
39:59And Josh, don't ever discount that. I would be willing to jump through the table just to take a problem off my hands.
40:06And I kind of think solving the Jaguars receiver room is a problem.
40:10I'm willing to jump through the table here for Trevor Lawrence to just be like, I'll just get the guy that's going
40:16to throw them the football this year. I get the thought process now.
40:20There you go. All right, Boone, give me your player that you're going to jump through the table for here.
40:26So we've talked about a lot of guys that are in similar situations to last year, or at least the end of last year.
40:33I mean, you can make an argument that Saquon Barkley, some things have changed.
40:37You can make an argument Derek Henry as a new offensive coordinator.
40:40But we just talked about a couple guys where we're hoping that they continue to do what they were doing last year.
40:47The guy I'm going to talk about right now is the one that is experiencing, I think, the most change so far from who we've talked about.
40:55It's Devonta Smith on the Eagles, right? We've seen this guy as an overqualified number two receiver in that Eagles offense for a while.
41:02And he's been pretty good for fantasy in that role, right?
41:05Three times he's finished as a top 24 fantasy receiver and fantasy points per game.
41:09Now we're taking A.J. Brown out of the mix here.
41:12Now we have some stat lines from games where A.J.
41:15Brown was not out there, and it looks pretty good, right?
41:18Six for 84, seven for 79, seven for 76 and one.
41:21You know, averaging 10 targets per game in those contests, 32.9 target share in those games.
41:26Like he has shown that he's up for the challenge.
41:29If you want to put me in that number one role, I can do it.
41:33They've gone out, they've got some other pieces that are going to try to fill that A.J.
41:38Brown role. They're not one for one guys that are going to step in.
41:42They're going to try to kind of money ball it, right?
41:46Yes. One of them is Dontavian Wicks. I don't know if you've heard of him.
41:50Oh, baby, I've heard of him. One of them is Makai Lemon, who has dealt with a ton of injuries here.
41:56And I think we've seen this happen with rookies, especially rookie receivers.
42:00They just often get off to slow starts. You're talking about him missing time at OTAs with hamstring issues, training camp.
42:06He's back now, but he's got a bit of a learning curve to go through, and we're probably going to see him start the season slow.
42:13So I'm looking at Devonta Smith and saying, man, last year he wasn't even terrible.
42:18He finished his wide receiver 33, which was well below those other marks that I said.
42:22But it was a bad year for that offense in general.
42:26Yep. And also, you look at what he did touchdown-wise, just four touchdowns last season.
42:30That's the difference. And he scored at least seven in each of the prior three seasons, right?
42:35And if you bump that up, it changes everything.
42:37So now you're taking away this number one receiver.
42:40I think he's more than ready to step up into that role.
42:44The touchdowns could come back. I think the offense in general under Mannion is going to be better.
42:49I'm very, very excited about him. I don't want to say easy schedule again, but he does have an easy schedule, just like Saquon Barkley.
42:56All of the Eagles have easy schedules this year.
42:59So I think get in on that offense, right?
43:01Like they're down. People are down on them in ADP.
43:04I think you should be buying pieces of the Eagles this year because we're going to see a bounce back.
43:10And Devonta Smith is one of the main guys that's going to do that.
43:14The on-off splits, 252 routes since 2022 with A.J.
43:17Brown off the field. On those plays, Devonta has been targeted on 29% of his routes, 37% of the team's targets with 2.6 yards per route run.
43:25Like he's just a really good player. Matt, I test said over the last year and a half, he just simply outplayed A.J.
43:31Brown in some games too. Now it's not necessarily in every game.
43:35It's probably closer to 50-50, but for how people talk about A.J.
43:38Brown as a bona fide wide receiver one and oh, we haven't seen Devonta Smith do it.
43:43Again, just my eyeballs would tell me that he absolutely has a talent across the league to fill in in that role.
43:50Yeah, I mean, I can back that up too.
43:5284th percentile success rate versus press last year, 90th percentile success rate versus zone in reception perception.
43:57And the funny thing is, Josh, like we've actually seen proof of concept of him one being a number one receiver.
44:03His rookie season, he led the team with over 900 receiving yards when they were not that good passing the football either.
44:10And in that 2021 season and through 2023, he was playing as the outside on-ball player.
44:14I mean, and while then averaging 64 just about yards per game, which would have been top 15 mark last year.
44:21And that was with A.J. Brown on the field.
44:23So what can he do with now Brown removed, going back into that X receiver position where, like I think the cool
44:30thing about Devonta Smith too is that we've talked about how they want to transition the offense into being more under center,
44:36you know, Sean Mannion, the whole deal. Like Devonta Smith can absolutely live in that world because he can run those big, like in-breaking routes off play action.
44:44We actually saw that in the Giants game before the bye when A.J.
44:48Brown was not playing in that game. He was the number one target.
44:52He was just smoking them over and over again, under center play action, dig routes.
44:56But we also know that when they probably sometimes will hit the wall offensively and they've got to kind of go back
45:03to the typical Jalen Hurts, spread it out, spread and shred deal, like he can live in that world too because he's so excellent on the comeback routes.
45:11But in those seasons that I mentioned for Smith when he was pretty good for fantasy in the number two role, we also have to remember A.J.
45:19Brown was a top 12 fantasy receiver in those seasons.
45:21Like that's what we're removing here. So there's room for him to step up and for some of these other guys like
45:28Wicks and Lemon, who I think you should still be drafting.
45:31I think there's value where they're going in draft still.
45:34You can really get in on a bunch of pieces of this offense.
45:38What would you put the probability, Matt? And this might be a low percent for some people that Devante Smith will just straight up outscore A.J.
45:45Brown this year. And it shocked me. I looked at it this morning.
45:49A.J. Brown now in consensus rankings is the 13th overall player.
45:52Like that ADP just keeps going up and up and up.
45:56But again, eye test wise, just eye tests. There were some moments last year, Matt, where it didn't feel like A.J.
46:02Brown was at his best ball. And I wouldn't be surprised if we haven't seen the best ball yet from Devante Smith.
46:08I have Devante Smith ranked ahead of A.J. Brown.
46:11There it is. I would take Devante Smith ahead of A.J.
46:14Brown. That's what I'm trying to pull out of you.
46:17And I pretty much maintained that before the trade, after the trade, all the way through the offseason.
46:22And, you know, Brown, I think they're in the same tier.
46:25I think Brown can have a really nice season.
46:28No one else thinks they are. I definitely think they are because that's how highly I think of Devante Smith.
46:34And, you know, yeah, I do have a little bit of concern about A.J.
46:38Brown maybe taking a step back, maybe not falling off the cliff, although this 29-year-old receiver who has to get his knee
46:44drained twice in every game leading up to the Super Bowl.
46:47So a couple of years ago, there's definitely more risk there than people want to admit.
46:52We are now halfway through our players who we are willing to jump through the table for here this year.
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47:49A lot of updating currently. Josh, I feel like you made some updates recently to the next player you're going to talk about here.
47:56Let's talk Jadarian Price, the rookie running back out of the Seattle Seahawks.
48:00This is a funny player in that whenever I have a conversation with someone about Jadarian Price, I just had it with
48:06Boone back in our guest green room. And Boone is looking at consensus rings.
48:10He's like, man, I'm way ahead on Jadarian Price.
48:13I had that same exact moment with Hayden on our show.
48:16And so I did the same thing. And it led me to saying to myself, I need to talk about Jadarian Price
48:22more and more and more this month because I think he's one of these players that we could look back on it
48:29and say he wasn't getting enough attention during fantasy draft season.
48:32I mean, so much of the focus based on what happened last year with K-9 and Zach Charbonnet is going to be,
48:38well, how's the running back split going to be this year with the Seahawks?
48:42And right now, that's just Jadarian Price, by the way, a first round pick in the NFL draft, and George Holani.
48:49To me, it's not going to be as rigid.
48:51It's not going to be the same. You know, it's not going to be the case of Ken Walker III, my beloved
48:58player, getting the Seattle Seahawks into the red zone, and then, you know, Zach Charbonnet popping in for 65% of the red zone touches.
49:05I do not think that George Holani is going to get 65% of the red zone touches.
49:10And in fact, if he just gets the third down and passing down work, great.
49:14That's like the least valuable touches and opportunity a running back can get in fantasy football.
49:19So for as long as Zach Charbonnet is out of this lineup, there's a chance for Jadarian Price, to me, to go absolutely nuclear here, right?
49:26Now, there's been a lot of, let's say, optimism about Zach Charbonnet returning.
49:30I'm just going to fade that, to be honest.
49:33I mean, he had major knee surgery in February, and I don't think he's going to be nearly the player that he was last year.
49:40So while it's probably a directive from Mike McDonald to split some carries, I just don't think it's going to be, again, as rigid.
49:47And we also probably have a two-game runway here for Jadarian Price to like really get going.
49:52And you're taking him in this section, and we're probably going to talk about this, with a bunch of split backfield players,
49:58he might just be the best of the bunch.
50:01So I moved him out of that range of the split backfield guys into my fourth tier, 58th overall player because I
50:07just sat there and looked at it, Josh, and Boone, I'm curious, well, moved him ahead of one of the guys that
50:14you made a really compelling argument for in New York City the other day.
50:18You're like, Quinchon Judkins, great schedule this year, bold prediction, the whole deal.
50:22I was like, I'm actually going to move him ahead of Quinchon Judkins.
50:25I also have him one spot ahead. Okay, well, there we go too.
50:29And ahead of, certainly, Josh Jacobs, who's at the bottom of that tier for me.
50:33Yeah, I'm taking Janarian Price over Josh Jacobs at this point every single time.
50:38And again, I'm even looking at the other guys in that tier like, is there any reason to feel more confident in
50:44a Cam Scadaboo or a David Montgomery type? Like, I'm not convinced.
50:47I'll just go through it. Trevion Henderson, Basial Tootin, Bucky Irving, Dave Montgomery, Cam Scadaboo, Quinchon Judkins are all the running backs selected ahead of him.
50:55I mean, those are all split backfields and yet it's just Janarians at the end of it.
51:00And I mentioned the schedule. It's the Cardinals and the Commanders in week two and week three.
51:05So again, we might have some like real fireworks early on and then can you put like the special sauce back in the bottle after that?
51:12Do you have a theory as to why his ADP is low?
51:16Because it seems so strange I do. That a first round running back is not getting steamed up in fantasy.
51:22Is it just because there was so much talk that not only would Helani be involved but maybe Emmanuel Wilson who just got back to practice?
51:29I think he was dealing with an injury recently.
51:32One thing too real quick just to jump in, Josh is like, because I know I've said this.
51:37It's like, well, yeah, he was a first round pick but the Seahawks were desperately trying to trade out of that 32nd pick.
51:44So it's like he was kind of a first round pick with not a lot of conviction that would be maybe the argument.
51:51No, Boone, I think it's people like me that told everyone to draft Kenneth Walker III last year.
51:56Sorry. But then people like me told you to draft Kenneth Walker III and we saw when it was just one running
52:02back on the field that is talented that he could have been a league winner for all of us last year.
52:08The other part is Jadarian Price split his backfield at Notre Dame and then he also had basically zero receiving work.
52:15I mean, he had 15 catches, 15 catches during his entire time at Notre Dame.
52:19What's amazing though is during hard knocks when you ever listen to Sam Darnold interviewed in these preseason games, Mike McDonald, Brian
52:25Flurry, the new play caller, all they can talk about is how good of a receiver he is and he's catching the
52:32football and we're seeing these downfield routes and what I've heard through the grapevine is that Mike McDonald wants Brian Flurry to
52:38get, you know, five active pass catchers out there more often that the Seahawks were near the bottom of the list of
52:45the league last year in terms of, hey, running back receptions, anyone else, it's just three active guys out there in routes
52:51and bring some of that over from the 49ers where Flurry is coming from.
52:55So if that's the case, again, I think Jadarian Price just because he didn't show it in college like Ken Walker, the
53:01third, then neither, then he can immediately do that in the league.
53:05Yeah, the fact that he shared the backfit with love too, I think that's a hesitation for folks as well.
53:11Boone, coming to you here for a running back that you're willing to jump through the table for.
53:16I want to know, what have we decided on the pronunciation here?
53:19I always went with Travis Etienne. He says it's Travis Etienne.
53:23He said Etienne more. I know everyone still wants to call him Etienne.
53:26No, it's Etienne. It's Etienne. It's Etienne. If the young man wants to be called by a name, that is the name he gets to be called.
53:34Okay? I think any other approach to it is a little ridiculous.
53:38I agree. Like I said, having the Canadian background, I think I put a little of that French on it.
53:44It's like Cajun. That's where it's coming from. Regardless, it has been a kind of rollercoaster offseason in terms of his fantasy
53:50value because I feel like when he initially went to the Saints, there was a lot of excitement, a lot of optimism.
53:56At that point, we were talking about, hey, Alvin Kamara's probably going to retire.
54:01He's going to get traded. They might cut him.
54:03He's not going to be with the team. And then Alvin Kamara decides, no, I'm going to come back.
54:09And they reworked the deal. And then people went, oh, okay, maybe not as excited about HN.
54:14And now, we have Alvin Kamara injured. Looks like he's probably going to be out for a month or so, maybe more.
54:20He's also an older back. We've seen clear decline from him the last couple seasons.
54:24So when he does come back, yes, he is a legend for the Saints.
54:29And yes, if he's out there, they're going to use him in some capacity.
54:33But he is not the same back that he used to be.
54:36So now, we have HN there. And man, the RB10 had fantasy points per game last year.
54:41Going where he's going, you can get him in the fourth round.
54:45We're talking about how we really want to get these running backs in the first two rounds, right?
54:50How we're excited to start that way. I think HN is one of the guys that you can wait and grab him
54:56and feel pretty good about him as I would rather have him as my second running back.
55:01You could do it though as your number one running back.
55:04Maybe that's what I will do Tuesday. Who knows?
55:07We have no idea how I'm going to approach that.
55:10But you think about what he's done in his career and I almost think he's undervalued, right?
55:15Last year was the third time in his four NFL seasons that he went over 1,300 scrimmage yards.
55:20It was the second time in the last three years that he's posted at least 12 touchdowns.
55:25Like this is a player that can get there especially when he's going to have the volume, especially in this Kellen Moore
55:31offense that is one of the fastest paced in the league.
55:35They're going to use him. They're going to use him a lot.
55:38When Jordan Tyson does come back, I'm so excited to see what the Saints offense could be at its best.
55:44But while he's out, that might even lead to more work for the backfield.
55:48So I'm looking at him as somebody that you're getting as an RB2, but there is legitimate RB1 top 12 value there.
55:54Hayden loves Travis H. So I hear about him like every single episode.
55:58Do you miss Hayden, by the way? No. I'm good, man.
56:01It's been days since you've seen him talk to him.
56:04It's been wonderful. Let me tell you. I have some maybe negative notes.
56:08Oh, okay. This is from the Great Retrieve Bar.
56:11You know, the worksheet. Go check it out. No player in fantasy football benefited from turnovers more than Travis H.
56:17did last year. All right? Per Reeves, H. led all players in fantasy points scored when the drive started on the opponent's side of the field at 82.2.
56:25The next closest running back was Jonathan Taylor at 52.
56:28So 30 more points than anyone else. After their bye week in week eight, Achan rushed for 3.6 yards per carry, 24th out of 32 backs.
56:3532% success rate, 30th. He failed to gain any yardage on a leak high 26% of his attempts over that span.
56:41Now, I think a lot of these numbers I just listed at the end are always attributed to the running back and
56:48it really should be running back plus offensive line.
56:50The Saints offensive line I think is one of the more underrated and underappreciated units across the league.
56:56The two tackles that they have in the first round, they just added David Edwards, Buffalo fans, coming over from the Bills.
57:02Obviously a great rushing attack down there. They only have like one questionable spot in Cesar Ruiz and that's totally fine.
57:08Four of your five could be awesome and just have you one question mark at the right guard spot with Cesar Ruiz.
57:15So, those are the positives and those are the negatives.
57:17He is just one of those players that kind of exists to me in fantasy football this year and I don't really
57:24have an opinion one way or the other and I think kind of his ADP indicates a lot of people in that boat too.
57:31So, I've had a lot of success in fantasy going after some of these guys that I think the public perception ends up a little down on.
57:39If you go back to like David Montgomery with the Bears or Josh Jacobs like the Raiders years and obviously goes to
57:45Green Bay people looked at those guys and they're just like they're boring they're not going to finish near the top but
57:52they were always fantasy values and you could get them throw them in your lineup and profit from it and I did.
57:58I got them on a lot of diastasis. I think A-Chan is another one of those guys.
58:03I think he's someone that people are down on.
58:06I didn't talk about him like he was the one that was the reason for this.
58:10I talked about his situation. I talked about the offense the volume that he's going to get and who's the competition there?
58:17Like I still have Kendra Miller on a bunch of dynasty benches.
58:20Sicko. I don't think it's going to happen. Right?
58:23If Kamara's not there they don't really have anybody else.
58:26Right? They just traded for Samir White I believe.
58:28I don't know if he's going to make the team but like that's how bad things are in that room.
58:34They're clearly in searching mode. So they went out they gave him a big contract they're expecting him to be the guy
58:40and I'm willing to back him for all those reasons.
58:43Now I will say one other negative that I don't think we've mentioned is six receiving touchdowns last year.
58:49It's probably not coming anywhere near that but he showed a couple years ago he can still get to double digit rushing
58:55touchdowns so I'm not overly Josh questioned my integrity earlier about this Trevor Lawrence thing.
59:00For my next guy I'm going to that I'm willing to jump through the table for I'm going to go with a
59:06player I've been talking about all offseason consistently and that is Jalen Waddell like why not finish draft season right where we
59:13started and this is a guy that I think is just still even now in the 30s at the wide receiver in
59:19the overall rankings I still think is going too late like when he's available in the fourth round I will take him every single time.
59:26There are several things that I think people do not understand about Jalen Waddell one of which is just how good he
59:33is even in a broken offense last year he was 11th in successful targets per route run he was 12th in yards
59:39per route run and Josh I know you have a stat that I want you to throw in here in a little
59:45bit to help make my point but just how much more opportunity is going to be available going to the Denver Broncos
59:52when the Miami Dolphins were dead last in plays last year so that's why the raw stats don't look that good but
59:58I mean there's that catch in the preseason for him where he's off ball in motion and then runs the vertical route
60:05up the seam from the slots like you know how many times he got to do that with the Miami Dolphins because
60:11they were role catering to Tyree Kill almost never like this is a fundamental change in usage for a player can he
60:17get injured yes has he already well banged up in camp yes like do you might you have to put up with
60:24turn your notifications off during Sunday okay don't get the like Jalen Waddell's in the blue tent then he's back on the
60:30field right away pretty terrifying it is irritating but you know what it's part of fantasy football like deal with it suck
60:37it up that's part of the hobby here so for me though Waddell just the upside is not priced into where he's
60:43going when he's available in the fourth round I take him every single time we've seen this story before we saw this
60:50story last year and it was George Pickens we did an episode in May or whenever that was and George Pickens story
60:56was he went from an offense where the quarterback play got better in the new stop the volume got better in the
61:02new stop and then weirdly for Pickens there was a CD Lamb injury that kind of allowed him to be the number
61:09one receiver for a stretch we don't even need that for Waddell we're seeing the other things happening for him and he's
61:15showing up and being that guy that number one receiver in a Sean Payton offense yeah you mentioned they were 31st in
61:22place the Dolphins were and then the Broncos were fifth that means that Courtland Sutton ran 664 routes compared to Jalen Waddell's
61:28442 like a 220 route difference between these two players is not so stuff for a player that was 11th in exactly
61:34yes I mean that is just exactly the environment that in a raw stat standpoint we're just oh you're gonna get the
61:41football a lot more but then it's certain sections of that too I'm sure you might have mentioned this and I wasn't
61:47paying attention over four yards for route run and play action last season and then the Broncos had the third most passes
61:54off play action so you talked about Ryan Heath at Fantasy Points he always brings up that the best and stickiest stat
62:00when it comes to getting ahead of breakout wide receivers is first downs per route run and Jalen Waddle ranked 8th last
62:06year in first downs per route run so to me Fantasy Football is all about drafting players that can finish 10, 15,
62:1320 spots ahead of their individual position rankings of where you selected them it's not this you know you draft the wide
62:19receiver 36 and he finishes the wide receiver 32 you do that 7 times and pat yourself on the back and think
62:26you're good at this Jalen Waddle is one of these guys where he is being drafted right now as wide receiver 17
62:32that I could see finishes like the wide receiver 7 100% that's again why I've been beating this drum all off season
62:38yeah just to we've said way too many nice things about Ryan Heath in this show but I will just say one
62:45more time like his research shows that it's actually years like 4 to 6 like the prime of wide receiver he's the
62:51one kind of production yeah I mean and that's where you want to get these guys that's where we have Jalen Waddle
62:58right now which is to my point that we I was talking with you guys in New York City it's a little
63:04too often that people are like oh we've seen this guy for 2 or 3 years like we know who he is
63:10you might not especially when there's a fundamental role and situation changes we have here for Jalen Waddle we got 3 more
63:17guys to get to and we've got to go a little quicker on these ones here because we got to get to
63:23the people's Q&A section after the show here so Boone it's time you got to break the seal here on a particular
63:30team that we haven't discussed just yet well I looked at the list that we had and I said hey there's not
63:36a tight end on that list we should probably talk about a tight end and I said hey look where we're going
63:43to be how could we not talk about a Bills player yes I am the Bills fan in the group here we're
63:49going with Dalton Kincaid and there we go all right the first of all we get for a part time player should
63:55have opened with Dalton Kincaid yeah that was our bad so Dalton Kincaid last year was somebody that I talked about people
64:02should be out there drafting and at the beginning of the season boy did I feel smart Josh oh man he was
64:08out there as a top five fantasy tight end of fantasy points per game he was killing it and then what happened
64:15the same thing that's really happened his entire career and it's just injuries and once the injuries occurred it was all downhill
64:21after that after he got hurt yes he did come back eventually but he never played on more than 38% of the
64:27snaps after that injury you can't do that much in that scenario even before that though he still wasn't playing that much
64:34or at least as much as I'd like to see him play early in the season it was still around 50% of
64:40the snaps in past years we've seen stretches where he's been out there for 70 80% hasn't been a full season yet
64:47but it's not like the bills don't want to do that with him we just need him to stay healthy he's dealt
64:53with these injuries his whole career let's see him stay healthy this year and finally come through and where you're getting him
64:59you're not getting him in a range where you have to pay up this year you get him down at like tight
65:06end 10 there's no risk involved you could take him you could take another tight end if it doesn't work out for
65:12him now you're streaming off the waiver wire but I do believe in that range he's the guy that has the most
65:19breakout potential for fantasy this season okay I've got some bad news for you okay when I got off the plane here
65:25in Buffalo the first advertisement I see has Josh Allen Deion Dawkins and Dawson Knox on it not Don Kincaid Dawson Knox
65:31and I think part of the snap count is always going to be an issue here for Don Kincaid right it is
65:38Dawson Knox Jackson brought in instead of the sixth offensive lineman Alec Anderson as it was before and if that's the case
65:44then I always struggle with these tight ends that are you know part-time players however an overarching change this season for the
65:51Buffalo Bills and this is one that you know we bring up more and more as the summer has gone along that
65:57you know since Joe Brady took over the Bills have been 31st 25th and 30th in drop back rate but I think
66:04Bills fans myself Matt Justin we can all look at this more passes are on the table and that's I think how
66:10Duncan Cade can pay off really in a big way it's the buddy effect like Joe Brady is Josh Allen's buddy that's
66:16why he got this job let's all be serious for a second and he's going to do what Josh wants to do
66:23which is probably throw that football a little bit more and I really do think it's going to be a highly concentrated
66:29passing game between Kincaid who I really like as a last call tight end one DJ Moore he's one of the guys
66:36I've changed my mind the most on at first I was like I don't know where I want to rank him in
66:42fantasy maybe a little skeptical but now he's somebody that I'm in to talk about him let's be serious for a second
66:48I really think we zipped through that Dalton Kincaid one a little too quickly here but let's keep moving I want to
66:55bring up Matthew Golden it's Colin's fault buddy he's telling me I gotta keep this thing if it was a cowboy if
67:01it was Camden Brown Matthew Golden second year wide receiver of the Green Bay Packers projected for the number eight scoring offense
67:08in the league this season I mean again former first round pick who he is the ex wide receiver we know that
67:14Romeo Dobbs turned that into just a wide receiver 37 per game finish last year on the wide receiver 35 usage to
67:20me again to me he is 90th overall he's 123rd in consensus 126 right now over on Yahoo I know Jory was
67:27on the show with you two days ago and she said she spoke to Jordan Love because he was peppering Matthew Golden
67:33with targets and the practice she attended and Jordan Love said quote I'm saying true to my reads I'm going through my
67:40progressions and my progressions keep leading me back to Matthew Golden because of the he does great work I think he had
67:46him like 29th that to me is just a little bit of a concern I agree that where you're getting him it's
67:52free there's no risk why not take the extra tight in on there do some chip help give the offensive lineman and
67:59the quarterback some extra time and in that case with Johnnie Smith or whoever else the second tight in other than Tucker
68:05Craft is on the field or Chris Brooks at fullback there's only going to be two wide receivers on the field Matthew
68:12Golden already as a too I do think this is a pivotal season for love where I brought up the analogy of
68:18let Russ cook now it's let love cook which I think this is going to be the moment though where love takes
68:25more ownership of this offense he throws the football more and while I do think Jaden Reed will outscore Matthew Golden especially
68:31the offensive line great point that was great analysis about that offensive line that was fantastic that was fantastic stuff that's going
68:37to lead to more short passes to Jaden Reed so while I do think I would take Reed over Golden still I'm
68:44about 11 spots higher on ADP than Golden even if I have some questions on him the reality is he's priced below
68:50his floor so get pieces of this Packers offense take away yeah Marshawn Lloyd definitely make sure you take him and for
68:57my final one here I'm going to keep this simple this is a player that I've always been you know a little
69:03in the bag for a player that I really like someone that I'm a fan of I would be willing to jump
69:09through the table for maybe the third year in a row on Roma Duns here from the Bears offense because number one
69:16this is another offense just get pieces of this Bears offense like Cowboys that's for you Colin and Bears the answer to
69:22which one do you want is just yes like the answer is yes take offensive players from this team because my God
69:29I think this offense can go absolutely crazy this year and I good wide receiver for eight weeks of last season Ben
69:35Johnson he inherited Roma Duns he drafted Luther Burden and Colson Loveland well he inherited Roma Duns and then ran his whole
69:41passing offense through him in the first eight weeks of the season to the point that yeah he was 11th in fantasy
69:48points per game I don't even care about that part of it he was top 19 in yards per route run like
69:54he was an efficient producer with that volume the offense was finding itself the quarterback was finding itself the players were finding
70:01themselves I think a Duns is going to be better in the second year of he's fine yes that's really what it
70:07comes down to it's not that I'm anti Duns I do think he was maybe keeping the seat warm for Loveland and
70:13Burden a little bit last year as they were rookies and got a little more comfortable we saw them come on a
70:20little more later in the season and now in my this year they're going to bloom even more but yes get in
70:26on I can also be honest and say Roman Duns needs to catch some of those 50 50 balls which he did
70:33not last year but based on who he was as a rookie and a college prospect I made this happen we got
70:39to do the easy thing come up here and yuck it up about players we've been talking about for months and months
70:45now and just put the period maybe the exclamation point at the end very excited now to be joined by I mean
70:52you know him you love him it is Ryan Fitzpatrick himself Ryan good to see you man you looking looking great over
70:58there dude I mean you like this the shirt I mean that looks incredible I didn't realize that I was going to
71:05a pal you know what I'm going to send you some stuff this is the verse line from Dick sporting good and
71:11I'll tell you I you know very fortunate get offered lots of things and a lot of it I just want to
71:18make like you didn't think twice about me wearing or looking like you know goofy in this because this is what I
71:24wear I love it lounge wear and then there's a bunch of workout clothes they've got limitless pants that are unbelievable so
71:30I'm fully in on this verse stuff now and if you see me walking out in the wild you will see me
71:37with my verse pants on well you know I don't know if you remember this but several years ago you and I
71:43did an interview together where we talked about the appropriate buttons to wear yes and you said it's regional and seasonal and
71:50I feel like the verse wear very versatile in terms of regional and seasonal it is so you're Henley I noticed you
71:56had the top button undone and I think if you have in store for me and the guys for Yahoo fantasy draft
72:02weekend but before we just bore the people with you helping me figure out my style let's get into something you actually
72:09know and have plenty of opinions on as well and that's football where let's talk a little quarterbacks here I wanted to
72:15run through some of these quarterbacks right now that are 25 years old or younger entering this season because there's a good
72:22crop of young quarterbacks across the league right now I know certainly as people are considering for their fantasy football drafts not
72:28just the quarterbacks themselves but what are the ecosystems around these guys going to be for the pass catchers 23 years old
72:34only starter 23 years old and you he might not even be starting week one is first overall pick Fernando Mendoza I'm
72:41curious for you like what do you think is the right balance on the does he start week one does he start
72:47later in the season what are your opinions on that yeah some of it does depend on the infrastructure you you don't
72:54want to throw a guy to learn from in terms of the stuff that the fans don't really get to see how
73:00do you watch film how do you interact with the team all these things about being a professional that is Kirk Cousins
73:06so I think he's perfect in that role but I seen a couple throws from Mendoza in the preseason and it's already
73:13like this dude ripping seam balls on time in rhythm I want to see him play and so when you sit and
73:19you look at their schedule I think back to when I was in week think it's week and it's not going to
73:26happen that late it's going to happen before then unless Kirk Cousins lights the world on fire and they're 12 and one
73:32at that point but let's say that it goes how everybody expects it it's going to go you start looking at the
73:39schedule you want them to play in a home game they've got this stretch from week four to week seven which is
73:45Kansas City at Kirk through those and then the next week week eight they go to New I see that circled as
73:51the week that potentially Fernando Mendoza gets to step in but I am I'm really excited to see him play he's got
73:58a good energy about him I I think that was encouraging at least to see just a little glimpse of it because
74:04the more and more he's able to stack that in practice I'm sure they'll feel better about it funny enough actually the
74:11first guy we're going to talk about in the 24 group here is Drake May and funny enough that was kind of
74:17when does he play versus Jacoby Rissette I remember the reaction Ryan when he gets thrown out there his first start against
74:23the Houston Texans defense I remember even some colleagues that I respect in the industry be like you can't start him against
74:30the Texans you're going to throw him to the wolves and it turns out Drake May just fine ever since then he
74:36was able to survive and thrive after that so coming off a really impressive season of course didn't end the way the
74:43Patriots wanted to how you feel about Drake May entering 2026 I feel great about him what he was able to do
74:49last year for his first year in the year I love that addition and it's going to be great for him I'm
74:55a huge Romeo Dobbs guy and I think that's one of the pickups that's like going under the radar a little bit.
75:02This off season, that's going to be huge for him.
75:05But just the chemistry with new receivers, I think that's going to be big for him.
75:09But what an impressive jump he made last year.
75:12And then all of a sudden you have that success.
75:15It's easier for him to take command. It's easier for him to just continue to get better with those leadership things because
75:21it's not an easy thing to do when you're that young and you step into a team and you step into a huddle with grown men.
75:29And so as you start to have success, those conversations and that bravado starts to become easier to have.
75:34And I think you'll continue to see him grow in that respect this year as well.
75:39Man, it is so crazy watching him back last year.
75:42You just forget how young he was while he was having all of that success.
75:46So he's got a really bright future ahead of him.
75:49Real quick on the A.J. Brown thing, because I'm a receiver guy, that's the position I focus in on the most.
75:55As a quarterback, when you've got a guy like A.J.
75:58Brown, who I'm sure you've experienced this throughout the course of your career, a guy who wants to be consistently fed the football.
76:05But Drake May has kind of come in last year where they didn't necessarily have that true number one receiver.
76:11They had kind of a collection of players. How do you balance that out as a quarterback?
76:16Like this guy needs to be fed, but we also have to run the offense as it's intended here.
76:21Yeah. I mean, historically, that New England offense, I mean, aside from Randy Moss, it's like the tight ends and the slot
76:28receivers are guys that are really important to that offense and get fed the ball.
76:32And it's not necessarily a constantly feeding the X receiver, the number one guy.
76:36And so they're going to have to do a good job, play-calling-wise, of moving him around a little bit and putting him
76:43in positions to receive the football and have some success.
76:46But to me, it's all about communication. And that's, again, just as you're learning on the job when you're a young guy, just having those conversations with A.J.
76:54Brown and being upfront and honest and open and not letting anything fester from one week to the next.
76:59I think that's really important. But you also, with receivers, there's also a honeymoon phase.
77:04And they're going to be in a honeymoon phase all year this year.
77:07Like this is, I'm not worried about this year at all.
77:11And then when you get to year two, when you get to year three, that's when you can see some of that fracturing going on.
77:18But I think it's a responsibility of Drake to get him the ball, yes.
77:22But it's ultimately, Josh has to also put A.J.
77:25in a position to where he's going to catch a bunch of footballs.
77:28And with him, it's the in-breakers, it's the go-routes, but it's like the catch-and-run balls over the middle.
77:34That's what he's going to thrive at. And there's certainly going to be a huge role for him in this offense.
77:40And we saw how good Steph Diggs was in this offense.
77:43And A.J. Brown's certainly not going to have any drop-off.
77:46Yeah, I thought we saw, just my personal opinion, I think we saw the first signs of decline for A.J.
77:52Brown last year, which is kind of expected 29-years-old history of lower body injuries.
77:56But the way they can kind of push that off is to your point there.
78:00Move him around the formation, give him some more of those layup opportunities.
78:04And I think Drake May showed he can certainly feed a receiver like that last year.
78:09A guy we're still kind of waiting to see come on is Cam Ward.
78:13Expectations on Ward, the Brian Dayball kind of marriage there in Tennessee.
78:16I don't know, which is, I know that's not the answer that you want, but it's like Dayball is in that.
78:22That's how I feel as well, man. Yeah, it's like Dayball's in the New England mold as well, right?
78:28And so that's an offense that Josh Allen, when he was in that offense, it took him to the next level.
78:34With Cam Ward, I think we'll see. It was interesting to watch quarterback and just to get like, you know, to see
78:40how his mind works a little bit and a little bit about his upbringing and his leadership ability and all those things.
78:47I think the thing that I like about Cam Ward when I see it is like the guys love and respect him.
78:53His teammates believe in him, and that's half the battle right there.
78:57You know, he's got an amazing arm. He has a great ability to run around and throw the ball.
79:02Ultimately, if you're going to be a successful quarterback in the league, you have to be able to play in rhythm, on time, from the pocket.
79:10And Dayball's going to, you know, want that out of him and the system that he runs.
79:15And so to be able to be accurate from the pocket is the biggest, I don't know, with Cam Ward right now.
79:21But certainly the guys believe in him, which is huge.
79:24And he has the physical traits. I think this will be a big year in terms of you've got better guys around you now.
79:31I think that team is heading in the right direction.
79:34Their uniforms look sweet. But can we capitalize on that and see growth, you know, from week one to week four to
79:40week eight, all the way throughout the season? Same kind of age range here.
79:44Jackson Dart, another year or two quarterback. What does he need to do to kind of take the next step, playing again
79:51in a different offense as he was with Dayball last year, no longer this year?
79:55Yeah, that one's also going to be interesting. We were out there for Thursday Night Football when they beat the Eagles.
80:01They beat the Eagles. I think they beat the Eagles.
80:04One of the more bizarre games of the season.
80:07One of the more bizarre games. But the energy that he brought and the energy that Scadaboo brought, I mean, it was like two frat boys.
80:14And it just completely flipped that team when they were out there playing.
80:18And so I think that part of it, that part of it reminds me of Josh Allen.
80:23When he's out there, if you just do the vibe check, like guys are wanting to play harder, good things just seem
80:30to happen when he's on the field. So I'm really interested and excited for that too because you look at kind of
80:36the wealth of talent around him now, it's just that's difficult.
80:39Coordinator to coordinator every year like some of these young guys, but it can be done.
80:44We saw it last year with Drake May and the step that he took.
80:48So I like Jackson Dart. I love the way that he plays.
80:51I don't really think, you know, everybody's like, well, you got to stop running so much.
80:56You got to get down. Like there's an art in how you take hits.
81:00And there's a time and a place to deliver blows.
81:03And there's a time and a place where you can dive forward and get a yard or slide.
81:08Like he's still continuing to learn that. But I like the energy that he brings to that New York market and to that New York team.
81:16Yeah. Their coaching staff is so fascinating because I feel as if what Matt Nagy brings to the table is very different
81:22than like what Greg Roman brings to the table as a run game designer.
81:26I think they're passing. Very, very different. Right. So they're one of those teams, Ryan, I feel like by week four, especially
81:33as Malik Nabors is working back in the whole deal, you know, getting back up to full speed.
81:38We might not see the vision of them early on the season, but don't you feel like they're a team that may
81:44by the end of the year we might have a better grasp on what they are?
81:49Yeah, I do think so. And, you know, you just think about the history of Harbaugh and, you know, how impressive he has been.
81:56But he's got a – it's a whole new culture that he's installing, right?
82:00So sometimes that just doesn't take hold right away.
82:03So, yeah, it's certainly a team. You know, we're going to kind of have to wait and see halfway through the year,
82:09you know, how it's going and we could see some real growth in the back half of the year by them.
82:15Okay, so guys age 25. We have Caleb Williams, CJ Sraud, Bryce Young.
82:19Let's start with Caleb Williams here. And I'm going to need your help on this one, Ryan, because I'll be honest with you.
82:26I am so sky high on this offense this year.
82:29Yeah. Okay, like I was mentioning a receiver guy, reception perception.
82:32Love Roma Dunze. Love Luther Burden. Like when those guys are healthy, I think they're going to be a badass tandem.
82:38Oh, by the way, Colson Loveland was the most targeted player on the team during the playoffs.
82:43He's incredible. Ben Johnson might be one of my two or three favorite play callers in the NFL right now at this moment.
82:50Caleb Williams obviously can run really hot, right? Like, you know, the highs are really high.
82:54Am I getting too over my skis with this Bears offense and the Caleb Williams experience?
82:59Because, man, it's really hard not to be super bullish on this unit right now.
83:03Like when I pull up my fantasy rankings, compare them to like where people are being drafted.
83:08I'm like, I'm higher on this guy. Every single Bears player right now.
83:12Right. Yeah, Luther Burden is getting some excitement in those drafts, right?
83:16So I met Colson Loveland this offseason. We had him on the show last year, but you don't really get to talk to him.
83:23I met him this offseason. You want to talk about, first of all, just like a very mature kid, like introduced himself
83:29to my wife, kept her in the conversation, like just everything.
83:32He had some depth to his answers and things.
83:35So I came out of it like not only is this dude, you know, however big he is, 6'6", and like an unbelievable tight end.
83:42He's a good-looking dude. He's got great manners. Like I am so bullish on him.
83:46You saw what he did at the end of the season for them.
83:50But so DJ Moore leaves, right? You just see quarterbacks develop their favorite targets.
83:54They develop a rapport, guys they like throwing to.
83:57So Colson Loveland is obviously the top guy on that list for Caleb Williams right now.
84:02And you could see Luther Burden like really kind of took off.
84:05They have a good rapport. And, you know, DJ Moore, his production, you know, kind of fell.
84:10He had some big moments, obviously. But I see DJ Moore like having a huge year in Buffalo because you can already
84:16tell the chemistry was there with Josh. And it just wasn't necessarily there with Caleb for whatever reason.
84:22But I am also very excited to see where they go.
84:25And it starts to me with Ben Johnson and how he's completely changed that culture.
84:29And he's an absolute psychopath. The thing that I'm interested in watching as we go forward here, adversity.
84:34Adversity between Ben and Caleb. Yeah. And how does Caleb handle that?
84:38And how does Ben handle that? You know, there are going to be points this season where they'll face more adversity than they have.
84:45We talked about the honeymoon phase. And when that ends and there is friction and you do develop scars, like how is
84:51that going to go with those two guys? Because I do feel like Caleb has the type of personality to where it could split in different directions.
84:59And I hope it doesn't do that because it'll take maturity on both of their ends.
85:04But very bullish on Caleb, Ben, and the Bears offense this year.
85:07It really is like a marriage, you know. I mean, I know you've been married for a long time.
85:13Spend a lot of time together. A lot of time together, dude.
85:16Yeah. My wife's in nursing school right now. She's on summer break.
85:20We're spending a lot. I work from home. We're spending a lot of time together right now, you know.
85:25And it's been great, by the way. No friction.
85:28No friction in the Harmon household. But, you know, it's like you're married to that play caller and that coach.
85:34You guys are married together, man. So there's going to be ups and downs.
85:38So, yeah, it's just one of those things where Ben even said it.
85:42Like, they're the number one regression candidate this year, quote unquote.
85:45When that's what I love that he's embracing that, too.
85:48Right. I love that he's it's a good message to the team because, I mean, you look at all the games they
85:54pulled out last year at the end. It's like, you know, Washington two years ago did great.
85:59And then they had, you know, they had some injuries and stuff.
86:03But I agree with him. I'm glad that he's confronting that and facing it and not afraid.
86:08It's not taboo. Like, he's not afraid to bring it up.
86:11Yeah. Plus, a little bit of bulletin board material doesn't hurt along the way as well.
86:16CJ Stroud, 25 years old. Let me ask you this.
86:18Are we over indexing on the last thing that we saw with CJ Stroud?
86:23Because the last thing that we saw, I tweeted this out at the time.
86:27It was one of the 10 worst quarterback performances from EPA per dropback standpoint in the playoffs since 2007.
86:32Long time. But he was a top 10 quarterback by EPA per play during the regular season.
86:37So where's the truth here with CJ Stroud? It's a big year for him.
86:41We know that. You know, it's hard going into a season.
86:44You've got a defense that's that dominant. And it's difficult because I've had years where coaches have said, guys, we just lean on our defense here.
86:52Don't turn the ball over. We're going to be fine.
86:55You can't play quarterback that way. You just can't.
86:58There's got to be an aggressiveness. There's got to be a mentality.
87:01And so this is a huge year for him.
87:04I'm really rooting for him. I mean, if he plays well, to me, they're probably the favorites in the AFC.
87:09Yeah, right. Right. You know, which I mean, that defense last year, again, our Thursday night game against Buffalo, what they did to Josh Allen.
87:17I mean, it was incredible. But I feel like he has regressed a little bit.
87:21He has regressed in the last few years, and you just want to see more, and you want to see more.
87:27And so, you know, he's a guy heading into the last year of his rookie deal before they do the fifth-year option.
87:34And is that right? Yeah. Before – yeah. And it's like there's a lot of guys that have been picked up, right?
87:40There's a lot of guys that – Herber, Josh Allen, guys that they paid early.
87:44So Houston decided not to pay him early. So they're also in the wait-and-see category, which gives me hesitation, right?
87:50Because they get to see him every day. Same draft class.
87:53Obviously drafted one pick ahead of him was Bryce Young.
87:56It's been an up-and-down career for Bryce Young. I think we can all be honest about that.
88:01But let me throw you this theory, Fitz, based on a conversation I had with someone the other day.
88:07They pointed out that, like, Bryce Young never was going to be great because of the physical tools, right?
88:12You know, we know the size. You know the arm strength, whatever.
88:16Really, for him, it's the mental game that if he's going to jump to the next level, it's going to be because the game slows down for him.
88:24And he just becomes a better pre-snap player, post-snap player, all of that.
88:28Do you buy that theory for Bryce Young? And do you buy Bryce Young kind of taking a step this year?
88:34I just – I don't see it with Bryce.
88:37I don't see it consistently. I don't see things that he does that jump off the page to me.
88:42So, I mean, I think last year was his ceiling.
88:45Like, that's how well we're going to see him play.
88:48And so, you know, if you're the Carolina Panthers, it's wonderful.
88:51You have a viable starter in the NFL. But for a guy that was drafted where he was, like, is that what you want?
88:58So that's what – I think what we saw out of him last year is the ceiling of what he'll achieve in the NFL.
89:05That makes sense. And it's just can everything around him be exactly what you need, which is a tight wire to walk, right?
89:12Like everything around the quarterback has to be at a certain level.
89:15Well, one last thing because I know we got to get you out of here, Ryan.
89:20But just real quick, let's end this conversation talking about a quarterback who's not 25 years old, and that's Josh Allen.
89:26We're going to be in Buffalo for Fantasy Drafts weekend.
89:29So it just makes sense to end the conversation.
89:32State of the state with Josh Allen. What are you expecting with the new offense?
89:36New-ish old offense, right? It's just Joe Brady's there, but he's the head coach.
89:40How much do you think things will change, and where are we at with Josh Allen at this point?
89:46I mean, he's entering the prime of his career, right?
89:48And so this is like – this window is a Super Bowl window closing for the Bills.
89:53It's never closed when Josh Allen's a quarterback. And I think the vibes that are coming out of training camp, and even
90:00in that first preseason game, you don't put too much stock in preseason and all that, but there's going to be an
90:06aggressiveness with this team that there wasn't in the last few years.
90:10That's going to be defensively with Jimmy Leonard getting after people, and that's going to be offensively with putting the ball down the field a little bit more.
90:18And so much of being a great team in the NFL, yes, you have to have the talent and the players, but
90:24is the chemistry of the locker room. And Josh is the ultimate chemistry team glue guy, and so I'm really excited to see where that goes this year.
90:32Now Joe Brady, he's going to have a lot of things to figure out as a head coach.
90:38He goes from offensive coordinator who's buddy-buddy with everybody to the head coach who has to draw the line in the sand
90:44sometimes with some things, and so how does he make that transition?
90:48That's going to be really interesting for us to kind of watch as they face adversity and the season unfolds this year.
90:54But, you know, I'm a homer, man. There you go right there.
90:58The Bills, like, this is the year, baby. Yeah, it's so much fun to watch Josh play and the growth that he has shown.
91:05I think he takes a big step this year just kind of with the unleashing of that offense and Joe Brady calling plays.
91:11Like you said, you don't want to put too much stock in a preseason, but pretty exciting to see, you know, deep
91:18shots down the field to Khalil Shakir. Like, hey, we're getting the ball and DJ Moore's in his hands getting explosive after the catch.
91:25That's some of the stuff we just haven't seen.
91:27So it's going to be fascinating to watch Joe Brady put his stamp on the offense, and you always got a shot.
91:34I know it's tight, Bills fans, right? I know you feel like that pressure is always on you, but you always got
91:40a shot as long as Josh Allen is in the mix.
91:43Tough opener with Houston, too. Tough opener with Houston at Houston.
91:46Yeah, that's always going to be a tough one.
91:49Ryan Fitzpatrick, you're the man. Really appreciate it. This has been a great quarterback primer for the people out there.
91:55Thanks for joining us and being a part of Yahoo Fantasy Draft Weekend presented by Versed.
92:00All right, once again, thank you to everyone who joined us here live at Dick's House of Sport in Buffalo.
92:05This has been absolutely electric. And special shout out to both our friends, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and our friends at Versed as well.
92:12This has been fantastic. We've got another big show for you coming up tomorrow as Justin Boone is back once again to
92:18tell me who's been going up and down his rankings after a full slate of preseason action and roster cutdowns.
92:24So many things are happening. I mean, Quinn Ewers was traded to the Jaguars in the middle of this show.
92:30Wow. We need Boone's full thoughts on it. He's going to have at least 20 minutes, I think, on Quinn Ewers.
92:36So that's absolutely electric. Again, shout out to an incredible day here at this Dick's House of Sport.
92:41It's been absolutely electric. So fantastic to be here with everyone.
92:44We are going to be back tomorrow, as I mentioned, at 4 p.m.
92:48Eastern on this YouTube channel live, as always. Until then, we are out.